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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Five o five fifty five. Care see the talk station.
Happy Friday, will.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Vacation no ideals?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, pretty much me too. Thank you Tally for someone
up the morning. It is the five o'clock hour, so
I rarely know what the hell I'm talking about at
the five o'clock hour. Happy Friday, Brian Thomas right here,
glad to be, Glad to see Jude Tracker and where
he belongs. Without just Tracker, there ain't no show. Uh,
And they're in there, I can know. Yesterday it was
so much fun, in spite of the fact that the
lot of the phone calls were driven by our see

(00:54):
the universal disappointment with the outcome of the election. Ah,
I love talking to people. It was a great opportunity
to vent and hear what other people thought about the
outcome and the certain election. So today's no really different
than yesterday, but it was a welcome relief to get
some assistance from the listening audience when I was well
pretty much perplexed over the outcome. Yeah, I was, and

(01:15):
I think I'm overwhelmingly perplexed by people's well lack of
motivation to get up and vote. I think that was
the biggest mystery swirling around. It wasn't there something really
important that you wanted to get up and vote for yesterday?
Of course, my mind is gravitating towards this city as
it has been, but so much it was like it's
like a presidential election year for the city of Cincinnati.

(01:36):
You get one out of four people showing up, that's
just a mystery to me. And no, it doesn't shock
me either the outcome of the election, given that the
people who shut up motivated and a city of seemingly
one hundred percent Democrats, if only one out of four
shows up, you're going to get the outcome that you
saw yesterday. So there you have. It didn't have to

(01:59):
be that way, I don't believe. But we're left with
reality and we're left only with speculation over what might
have been. So moving forward, we're going to have to
keep a popcorn out and just see how things are handled.
And you know, there was somebody I guess was on
Fox News I mentioned was shifting, gravitating and shifting over
to New York City with this mom Donnie guy. He's
got a lot of challenges putting through his agenda, his

(02:21):
just gazillion dollar agenda, and the Wall Street Journal to
breakdown of it, how much each of his line items
like free buses and rent freezing, how much it's going
to cost the city, and how he's planning on financing it,
most of which is going to require the work from
Albany and the concessions from the governor and the Democrats
in Albany, which is not guaranteed. So his tax proposals

(02:42):
are contingent upon a statewide impact. But what do you
think is going to happen? Here's the question that was
posed the first incident involving police interaction with let's say
anybody like George Floyd. So a George flo scenario. So
you have a really soft on crime prosecutor. You've got

(03:06):
a really anti police mom Donnie guy who supports this
sort of violence in the street in the aftermath and
the protests against the evil, inherently racist police department. So
they're on the same side of the ledger when it
comes to who's they support. Do they support the protesters
in the street protesting against the evil police force or
are they gonna are they gonna support law and order?

(03:29):
So there's a huge problem on their hands. So you
got this, this this George Floyd esque kind of event
that happens. City starts coming on glue, people riding in
the streets or whatever. What is the mayor of the
City of New York do. This is not a problem
that I have, but it's one that I think probably
will happen. And whether it's a George Floyd type thing

(03:51):
or maybe some sort of Antifa protest or I don't know,
an ice raid, perhaps the city could come up glue.
Then mont Dommy's in the unenviable position of having to
realize that crime and rampant and violence in the streets
and property destruction is all happening on his watch. He's
not just sitting out from elsewhere watching it happen in

(04:13):
some other city, talking about how awesome it is that
people are rising up against the oppression. This rising up
against the oppression is going to be happening on his
watch in his own city, so a complicated narrative it
will create for him. And I suppose it's inevitable that
will happen, So you can wait for that one anyway.

(04:33):
But coming up to thinking, I have Cassey Morning Show.
Congressman Warren Davidson seven oh five latest on the shutdown.
Will the GOP Senate Flinch, longest shutdown in American history?
How's that working out for you? And I met my
first impacted worker yesterday and shout out to everbody he
minute to listener lunch and most litably the new people
that I met for the first time. There's quite a
few of them there. And perhaps to the guy drove
all the way down from Columbus to come to listener lunch,

(04:55):
that was that was a true honor. So we had.
We had a really nice time at listener lunch yesterday,
So High Green Brewery, salute to you and the good
food we had. Will the GOP Senate Flinch, there's a
good question. But that guy I met yesterday also happened
to have lived in Oak Park, Illinois. He what has

(05:17):
been laid off? He said, have you met anybody that's
been impacted by the shutdown? Here's the first one. I said, No,
you're the first person. Someone had asked me that the
other day. Matter of fact, CNN was going to have
me on one point and that was one of the questions.
They asked me, what are all your listeners talking about?
I said, A lot of the topic of conversations been
dominated by the shutdown. Has anybody been impacted in your

(05:39):
listening audience, is the answer, at least until yesterday was no.
I had not met someone who has been impacted. So
I've crossed that bridge. Empower you. Kurt Hartman is going
to return to the program at eight oh five, is
going to empower you. Someon are talking about Sunshine Laws.
That'll be eight oh five this morning. Tonight at seven pm.
Empower Youamerica dot Org for all the information and our

(05:59):
wine for and Keegan Corcoran almost Master Saumier. He'll be
in studio Lost Election Wine Choices, the perfect pairing for
nice one Joe. Was that your idea? Or did he
reach out to you for lost Election mind choices? That

(06:21):
was you? Yes, high comedy. I expect that from Strecker.
See told you. Try to give Joe Strecker props always
when props are due, and call up Joe if you
want to do a podcast. He's he does podcasts on
the side five one three seven, eight hundred and eight
two three Taco with pound five fifty on at and
T phone, Sadly and again Prayers. It's eight thirty with
Kegan Corcoran. Uh and that means no. iHeart media aviation

(06:45):
expert Jay Ratliffe, and I've been tting everybody know he has
told the world, so I don't feel like I'm revealing
anything Medically, Bell's palsy. If you look it up, this
is kind of a weird phenomenon. It really truly looks
like and acts like a stroke. It's not and you
can come out the other side. It takes a little time.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
We had a front Bob, my wife and I, Paul,
and I have a friend that got Bell's palsy after
giving birth, and I think it was about six months
before she regained that function full functionality. It's a moving
target though, but because of that, we don't get iHeartMedia
aviation expert Jay Ratliff, which is a shame and sad.
I thoroughly enjoy talking with him. I think his topics

(07:26):
are quite fun. And of course, you know what the
government shut down. Air traffic is struggling having a bit
of a problem. So FAA said yesterday it's ordering airline
traffic to be reduced by ten percent at forty airports
because all the air traffic controllers aren't getting paid and

(07:46):
a lot of them aren't showing up and some of
them are going out and getting a second job. So
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said, starting tomorrow, this ten percent
reduction at forty airports will help keep you, the air
travelers safe. And I don't know how comfortable you are
with flying anyway, but recognizing that we're down on air

(08:11):
traffic controllers doesn't give me a comfortable feeling. So exacerbating
staffing issues, of course, has and it's caused that multiple delays.
I'm sure you heard about that, Duffy said. This is
about where's the pressure and how do we alleviate the pressure. So,

(08:32):
according to the Journal, travel businesses are warning about the
impact on consumers and companies. The letters, signed by nearly
five hundred companies as well as other groups, said, hey, Congress,
pass the spending bill. Expecting some chaos. Of course, you
got the impending holiday season, Thanksgiving right around the corner,
of course, Christmas dating the obvious. I guess I'd like

(08:55):
to think there's no way in hell the government shutdown
will last through Thanksgiving or into Christmas. I may be wrong,
and I suppose I'm interested in knowing. If you think
the Republicans are going to flinch on this one, will
they capitulate and give into the democrats demands to extend Obamacare,
and these fake subsidies, the subsidies that hide the reality

(09:20):
the impact on healthcare is.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm sorry, the economics of this seem so clear to
me that I struggle to appreciate how anyone can believe
that these subsidies somehow make the cost of healthcare go down. No,
it just covers the cost to you. If you're not
paying a premium and you're getting healthcare, it looks free, Oh,
joy of joys. But does anybody believe it's really free.
That's the point of the subsidies. You are paying for them,

(09:49):
even though you really don't realize that. That is, if
you're paying it to the federal income tax, and ultimately
your children and grandchildren, great great grandchildren generations in front
of you are going to be paying the bill for
this because our deficit keeps going up. And who's got
to pay the debt service on that?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
American tag fare number one issue. You've got to pay
the interest on the debt service or the country falls
apart in collapse because nobody else wilone this money anymore.
If we're a bad risk, this thing's spiraling down in itself.
But you know, just because you get a subsidy doesn't
mean you're getting free healthcare. Ah and the Democrats realize

(10:29):
that Obamacare is a is a fundamentally irretrievably broken thing,
and absent masking the increasing cost of running Obamacare and
paying for all these claims, there's a little left with
the cold, stark reality that the system they build is

(10:49):
irreparably damaged and broken. When the Supreme Court ruled in
finding that Obamacare was in fact constitutional, another case that
just has always blown my mind. But one gift they
gave us is that they said specifically that the government

(11:11):
can't force you to buy something. It's a commerce caused decision.
It's that Pesky Wicker versus Philmore. If you're growing wheat
of any amount, you impact the amount of wheat out
in the world, and that means the government can regulate
you even though you're not engaging actually in interstate commerce.
They tried to leverage that argument into they can force

(11:34):
you because you consume healthcare and that has an impact
on society and the budget and the economy at large,
they can force you to buy this product. No, said
the Supreme Court. It can't be used as a vehicle
to mandate that you engage in action. It can only
be a vehicle to regulate or prevent you from engaging
in action. So as soon as that element was pulled

(11:57):
and the court ruled it unconstitutional, that was the real
true financial end of Obamacare, And now they're trying to
make up for that by well covering up the actual
cost of it. I keep going back to my conversations
with John Roman from Cover Sinsey. You know, you got
ten thousand plus dollars out of pocket responsibility before Obamacare
even kicks in. Is that really helpful for the downtrodden.

(12:25):
It's certainly not helpful for the family of four that
end up ends up having almost twenty two thousand dollars
out of pocket responsibility before the insurance kicks in. Anyway,
I know it's a bit rambling, but again, five o'clock hour,
and if you got something you want to talk about,
you can give me a call. It's five seventeen, five
eighteen right now, stick around, right back, these eventful times

(12:45):
five on three, seven four nine fifty, five hundred, eight
hundred and eighty two to three. Talk about five fifty
on eight E T phones over the break Striker to say,
did you see the neighborhood vote for mayor? And it
was on the enquired and I hadn't seen it. Strucker
suggests that well, okay, given the vote and the percentage

(13:06):
of who voted for AFTAB par Ball versus the option,
Corey Bowman Joe suggested building a crew tower type structure
right there at Hyde Park Square. Because Hyde Park the
recipients of the proposal from the well connected developer that
got everyone outraged and incensed, so much so that they
had a ballot initiative on the ballot to reject the

(13:28):
mayor's proposal for their neighborhood. A lot of people expressing
outrage over that. Why didn't he listen to us, the
residents of Hyde Park when considering this well connected developer's proposal.
Damn it he got eight Hyde Park gave him seventy
percent of the vote AFTAB par Ball hyde Park. What

(13:50):
about bond Hill recipients of the same treatment in a
representative body of government, They were ignored, Their wills and
wishes were ignored in favor of connected communities. Bond Hill
eighty five percent to one hundred percent, AFTAB Parvolles gonna
make you want to scratch your head. What happened to

(14:10):
the outrage? I keep going back to only twenty five
percent of your show. People shut up. I guess Hyde
park felt. Well, we're done. We don't have to worry
about this development project anymore. We got our way because
once the ballot initiated was on, AFTAB pulled the plug
on the whole proposal, so we win and therefore don't
need to show up at the polls. Bond Hill's a

(14:31):
head scratcher, though, isn't it. You used to see the map? Yeah,
the only place Corey won several places of the sailor
Parker overside, uh and California went AFTAB provall by majority.
Oh well, let's see what Pat's got this morning. Pat,
thanks for calling. Welcome to the Morning show.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Oh Brian, I'm telling you I couldn't call you yesterday because,
like you, I was just devastated. But I'm hoping Christopher
and that's and Josh and I just hope we get good.
I pray for it, but I figure God has a
reason why this happened. But anyway, and take care and

(15:13):
pray for the children because I think it back in
Germany when they started their nastiness, they started with the children.
And our children are not being taught reading, writing, and arithmetic.
They're being taught about trands. But anyway, sweetheart, you just
have a nice day, and I keep listening every day.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Bless you.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Keep the prayers going there, pat and keep your chin up,
and maybe, just maybe the way things work out for
the better. God has a plan lest suggest, and this
is his plan. Let them fall on their own decisions.
Let the whole system collapse on the weight of their
own decisions. I mean, how do you think this whole
Mondami thing is going to work out in New York?
I mean, the cost of all these individual programs at

(15:59):
up to tens and twenty billions and billions of dollars.
It's more money than the city has, and they're already
in a hole. How could that possibly work out? I
mean a lot of people think that the rich are
going to completely move out of New York and that
the whole system will collapse on under the weight of itself.
That may be, and then we can all learn a
lesson from it. Sadly, no one seems to be paying
the attention to the mistakes of the past. Talk about

(16:19):
this all the time. What happened to Venezuela when it
went full on socialism? The economy collapsed. Weimar Republic, speaking
of those nastiness. When Germany and the Brownshirts broke out,
they were in a terrible economic calamity. Why because they
kept running the printing press, runaway inflation, devastation after World
War One and the fact that they lost World War
one two didn't help maul Adel economically, so huge problems.

(16:43):
And when you have crazy circumstances like that, you end
up with Nazis run the place. See that's the turn
for the worst that we all have to anticipate. Gee,
will we learn that socialist policies collapse and that the
economy of the economics of it don't work?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, if you run the printing pest and the environment
republic long enough and the inflation goes crazy and you
engage in warfare, that well didn't work out real well
for you. Calamity might have resulted. It could have resulted
in a smarter, stronger form of government coming out the
other side. But no, we need to blame someone. So

(17:20):
let's blame the Jews. And let's put the evil jew
haters in office, and let's see how things work out
under the tenets of the Nationally National Socialist Party. Don't
think we could have learned a lesson from that one
that we might be studying right now, or any of
the other collapses of socialism that have happened around this world.

(17:42):
So while I want to be optimistic that we'll learn
from what I perceive to be the inevitable failure of
these policies, it's certainly a distinct possibility that things could
go way off the rails worse. Oh Ded, Love you
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(18:23):
AT and T phones. For those who said Judge at
a Polatono had it wrong yesterday doesn't appear so based
upon the Supreme Court arguments regarding Trump's tariffs. Tariffs are
not looking like they are going to remain in place,
so major questions. Doctran discussed the idea of taxation being
the exclusive purview of Congress. Pesky little fact there in
our constitution. So that was the way judgment pods Judge

(18:47):
of Polton are called it yesterday, much of the chagrin
of a few callers are called in. I tended to
agree with them in spite of the fact that I
think the tariffs are actually bearing some decent fruit and
the other component of this that people aren't paying attention to,
and affordability was a massive issue in the vote. Yet
tuesday we'd huge issue. If you want to don't believe me,

(19:09):
listen to all the other political pundents, observers, everyone who
did exit polls affordability, affordability, affordability. So so yeah, they
do impact affordability because necessarily the price of something's going
to go up if you're putting a big tariff on it. Fine,
but he's bringing in billions and billions and billions of
tariff revenue. The one thing I observe that is I

(19:32):
believe to be a positive thing with the increase in
prices is that it spreads the idea of government cost
to literally everyone who buys anything. It's like a national
sales tax. You're upset that you know half of the
country doesn't pay into the federal taxation system because of
the way the tax code is structured. Well, welcome to

(19:52):
an income tax based on consumption. That's effectively what it is,
spreading the cost to everyone. Now that's really painful for
people on life's margins. I have to acknowledge that it's
one of the things they want to stay away from.
But for those out there, so people should quit soak
in the system. We shouldn't be people shouldn't be living
off the system for free. They need to be paying

(20:14):
their fair share. Well, if they got to pay ten
percent more or fifteen percent more for some product that
they want to buy, then they will be so just
looking for a little glimmer of positivity amid this chaos.
So the big mess is going to be if they
do find that he does not have this tariff authority
because there is no true emergency that would justify it.

(20:36):
How are they going to unring the bell of all
the tariffs that have been collected and how and might
they have to unring the bell of the treaties that
have been negotiated and the teriff relationships that Trumps negotiated
with some of these countries that were very well received
and good for America. It's good question. I don't know
the answer to it, and I don't think the Supreme
Court justice is no yet either. Based upon the questioning, Tom,

(20:57):
Welcome to the show. In a happy Friday eve to Hey,
good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
If if the Ohio State Legislature can.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Ignore the Supreme Court of.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
The State of Ohio when it comes to property taxes
being used for schools, couldn't Trump just ignore the Supreme Court?
No whatever to sit I'm joking.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I know you are, but I want to happen. I
want to burst the bubble of anybody wanting to invite
a constitutional crisis of that magnet.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
I don't want to do that. And I was really
that's more to try to rattle Jay a little bit,
get him going this morning. I know that's not topic.
Your your your biggest question and your couple of rants
you already had this morning is where's the outrage?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Anybody who wants to put together a podcast and call
it outrage and talk about how all you people that
that cried and screamed because of what the Democrat led
government of Cincinnati has been doing to you. And then
you don't even get up off your sorry lazy butts
and vote, or you go ahead and vote for the

(22:05):
knuckleheads that did it to you. Anyway, mister Joe Strecker
would love to help you with that podcast, putting it
together so you can cry and wail and and all that,
and uh, he'll just sit there and laugh at you
because you had your chance and you're gonna get another chance,
and what are you gonna do? So where's the outrage?
That's the question. So the Democrats are really good at

(22:28):
keeping their people all stirred up with outrage. And the biggest,
the biggest way they do that is racism. Oh you're racist,
Oh you're racist, you're anti this, your phobia that whatever.
They are really good at lying to everybody about what
they should be afraid of and what do we have. Well,
we're not We don't want to lie to people. I mean,

(22:48):
if we're gonna call them out and say you're liars,
well we're not gonna make stuffed up and lie to people.
We got common sense. Well, common sense doesn't stir up
emotions like racism does, and in various other lives that
they use. That's the biggest difference between the way Democrats
get people to vote and the GOP gets people to vote.

(23:09):
That's why they sit on their hands because, like you said,
well we the Vallid initiative of the threat of it worked.
He called the thing off. Well it's still not over
you still he's still in office. What do you think
is gonna happen. It's just it goes to show you
that people use their emotions a lot more than they
use common sense. And so all right, so we gotta

(23:32):
we gotta get people riled up with the truth, tell
people that true, cheap it up. Nothing has changed. The
problems are still there, the solutions are still out there
if we want to use them. It's just a matter
of whether or not you are outraged enough to get
off your lazy butt and go vote when you have
a chance. So when you get a chance, you need

(23:52):
to vote, and don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Have a great day, Brian, you too, Tom, And to
your point on that, I thought it was a really
interesting observations. Karl Rove and I know how a lot
of people feel about Carl Rove, but he's entitled to
an opinion. I thought this was something that was accurate,
but nonetheless probably not helpful, giving that outrage and anger
fueled by basically soundbites and without any explanation or connection

(24:15):
with reality. He suggested the GOP should learn something that
screening communist and socialist that run of the mill Democrats
doesn't move even diehard mag of voters, he said. Explaining
why Democrats' policies will raise the costs or hurt jobs
and offering constructive, forward looking agenda's much better approach. Explaining

(24:37):
why is the problem. It's easy to explain why, but
you need to keep someone's attention long enough to understand it.
This whole shutdown the idea that people can ultimately conclude
that the shutdown is the Republican's fault, that is clearly
a reflection of their ignorance as to what led to it.

(24:58):
You have to walk through the steps got us to
the shutdown. You have to understand what the Democrats are
demanding to open the government up, and yes it is
one point two trillion dollars in cost, but ultimately why
they want to include this one point two trillion dollars
in cost in connection with these subsidies. You got to
go through the whole process and analysis. It's a hell
a lot easier to just put an evil orange man

(25:19):
meme up there and scream fascism for whatever reason that
seems to resonate. But the only reason that can resonate.
And I've been going back to this a million different
times because people apparently don't understand what fascism means. If
you can sell somebody to Trump is somehow a fascist.
The only thing he has connected with fascism, and he's
the dynamic personality. But you know who else was Barack

(25:41):
Obama extraordinarily dynamic personality. His picture was everywhere, they had
the multi colored poster you know, Hope. I mean that
was more reminiscent of something you might see in Hitler's
brown sure days, and during the Hitler regime with posters
everywhere and pictures of him everywhere, like Mussolini and every

(26:04):
other dictator, they put him up everywhere. That's a component
of fascism, that prominent figurehead. But beyond that, he's deregulating.
He's trying to grease the skids and make it easier
for business and industry, which is nothing remotely close to
what fascism does, which is control every element of business

(26:26):
and industry. Five three seven fifty two three talk got
some stack as stupid coming up, including in honor of
iHeart met the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe headline, Mile High
Duo gets off records. We'll get thank you, Jess dereckor QC.
Kinetics though, is the place where you get rid of

(26:47):
your pain and get rid of it by helping your
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station jump straight into the Phone's got John on the
line right now. Has a comment, John, welcome to the
morning show. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, good morning. I actually have to go to work
because millions on welfare are depending on me.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Good for you from each, according to each, according magnique.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Let me make this real quick. You know who should
be in the stack of stupid.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Brian, go ahead, huh, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Now I'm going to tell you you should be in
the stack of stupid. The Republican Party for letting these
democrats ass clowns beat them with with with people like
a pure Vaul that should be in the stack of stupid.
The Republican Party should be in the stack of stupid.
Have a nice day.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
You sound like about half a dozen listeners that I
talked to yesterday at listener lunch. John. Yes, a lot
of blame being levied towards the Republican Party here in
Hamilton County, generally speaking, many people having to go at
the state Republican Party as well. Lots of people believe
the failure was in that. There's a certain amount of agreement.
I want to go in acknowledge on that. I just

(28:03):
don't know what effort the Republican Party can engage in
to get people to go actually vote. I mean that
needs to be the driving force. You have to go vote.
And we knew it over and over again, talk about
it weeks and weeks leading up to the election. If
you just get up and vote, the city's only going
to have a twenty five percent turnout. Your vote can
mean volumes in terms of change. Nope, didn't happen. I

(28:26):
think the stack is stupid. There really should probably be
in that sort of Hyde Park bond Hill thing, given
that they were dumped on by the city administration, yet
they went overwhelmingly in favor of Parlvall and the current administration,
same council members pretty much across the board, with the
exception of one newbie an honor of I heartby the
Aviation next for Jay Rattleff. Get this one real quick here.

(28:47):
The married couple got arrested for well allugedly joining the
mile High club while on a Jet Blue flight trist
Riley forty three and Christopher Arnold, two, flying off to Sarasota, Florida,
from New York. Female passenger told police that she was
traveling with her two children when during the takeoff from

(29:09):
JFK International, she spotted a woman later identified as Riley,
providing a manual pleasure service to her male companion. See
I'm being delicate here. She noticed that, she said, two
of my children were watching them, and they didn't stop.
After that. She was laying on him like if she
was going to do a different performance involving a different

(29:33):
part of her body, not that. One Joe Jet Blue
flight attendant named Brian Zepp told police that several youths
and their mother had witnessed Riley and Arnold performing a
sexual activity on board the jet flight. Jet Blue flight,
adding that he walked to missus Riley's seating area in
the twenty fifth row and witnessed her making what he

(29:54):
described as and I don't know what this means, Joe,
maybe you can interpret it for me, up and down
movements with her head. Do you know what that means?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Phrasing?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Anyway, investigators know the further investigation indicator that Riley was
seen by two underage us performing a certain sexual act
or actually two different ones on mister Arnold after the
pairs July nineteen, the rest Sarasota by the Sarasota Police
Prosecutors consented to their own recognizance, so no bond case

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review revealed October thirtieth court notices revealing the prosecutors had
dropped the criminal charges. They're no longer pursuing criminal charges
against them. So, as the article suggests, Joe, they got
off five six. I know, yes, I am being childish.

(30:45):
I apologized, but you know that's what the stack is
stupid is for in part anyway, And the Chimney Care
fireplace and STUFFA five two five KRC detalk station, What
did to talk about? Congressman Warren Davidson seven o five
The return to Kurt Hartman and power? Are you similar
tonight seven pm Sunshine Laws and then Keegan Corcoran's gonna
tell us which wine we should be drinking with the

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election loss blues. That'll be at a thirty Purdue University
West Lafe in Indiana, campus police working on with well
witnesses about an unusual situation unfolding on campus yesterday. Officers
got a call to the Active Learning Center but a
person covered in peanut butter from head to toe? Why

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are you doing that? I don't know that we'll ever
find out me. I love this. So you see a
guy walking around covered head toe with peanut butter? If
that's not unusual enough. The concern the potential danger for
people with peanut analogies. WLFIVE reporting DOOS eighteen arrived shortly

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after observing an increased police presence and confused students. Students
reported seeing the man walking around on campus. Cleaning crews
called into his sanitized services, coated in peanut butter and cornered.
Officers not known whether the man is a student or
if this was or was not a hazing Situation's situation

(32:12):
Efforts underway with campus police to gather more information not
part of the hazing process that I went through in college.
Not really through hazing though. Let's see here tomorrow Tech Friday,
Dave Patrol if we'll be talking about this, but we could.
Wisconsin man arrested for stalking after police said he used Grinder,

(32:33):
which is a dating app, to send strangers to victims'
homes as a form of harassment. Coming to a home
near you. Matthew Hubschmunn accused of what police call a
year long pattern of disturbing and intrusive behavior. They say
he used a dating app, Grinder to arrange meetings between
unknown men and the victim. He would pose as the victim,
according to police, then direct the men to the victim's

(32:55):
home and instruct them to enter the residence upon arrival, phrasing,
I was thinking that could be setting somebody up to
get shot Castle doctrine. Over the course of more than
a year, numerous men showed up at the victim's home
under the false pretenses. Police said that the harassment created
a constant sense of fear and distress for the victim.

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Suspect reportedly positioned himself nearby to watch the men show up,
and the police said that ultimately led to his arrest.
Taking to the out Gammy Court or out of Gammy
County Jail for one kind of stalking, probably Joe. He
appeared in court where the judge said a ten thousand
dollars bond also ordered him to stay away from the

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victim and stay away from dating apps, including, of course Grinder,
but not exclusively Grinder. Preliminary hearings scheduled for tomorrow at
the out of Gami County Court if you're in the area.

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They're also looking for anybody else that his information related.
At six and six Air fifty five Kerosene Talk station,
Brian Thomas wish and everybody very happy Friday Eve and
inviting you to stick around all morning, and I hope
you can. Congressman Warren Davidson's coming up in an hour.
We'll get the latest on the showdown and the shutdown.
Will the Republicans flinch? A good question, longest shutdown in

(34:21):
American history and starting to feel it. Couse air traffic alone,
ten percent reduction in air traffic out there, a lot
of delays, a lot of folks not showing up for work.
And again ant of the guy I met yesterday came
up from Kentucky to let me know that he in
fact had been placed on furlough.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
See.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
He was the first person I met that has been
directly impacted by the shutdown. But it is having broader implications,
so will someone at Flinch empower you. Kurt Hartman shows
up at eight oh five talk about the Sunshine Law
programmer seminar. He's going to be given tonight seven pm
empower Youoamerica dot org and then a little relief. Normally
iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, but since he has

(34:55):
Bell's palsy and I'm asking my listeners to pray for him,
he'll get over it. Brady, God that happens, and he'll
be back soon or rather than later. Jay Rattliff, get
well quick. But Keegan Corkoran returns our Resident Samier, if
you lost the election, what kind of wine do you
drink with that? Thank you Joe Drecker for the levity.
And since Pat brought it up early, you can feel
for to call five one three, seven four nine fifty

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eight hundred two three thought. But it Pat patted early
in the program mentioned education, and I've been kind of
holding off on this wonderfully astute observation. Op ed piece
by Jack Miller, who's the founder and chairman of amritas
of the Jack Miller Center for Teaching America's founding principles
and History. And she had mentioned education, and part of

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me thought immediately of this Mom Dannie proposal in New
York universal childcare, and of course we had this in
the city of Cincinnati. I'm not quite sure where it's gone,
but it seems to me to be a tragic thing
when you have a child and you immediately handed over
to the state for or the city whatever, you handed
over to government for all the education and in actually
raising the child itself bodies. Universal childcare in New York

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would cost would cover ready six week olds through five
year olds, and then of course throw off the kindergarten
K through twelve and then off to some left wing university.
So we've seen the progression of woke ideology starts with
college education a couple of decades ago. You get all
these left wingers coming out of college, they graduate, they

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get their teaching certificates, they go out into the K
through twelve education realm. They start perpetuating and passing along
this woke ideology and doctrinating students and never ever, ever, ever,
mentioning the founding fathers, the founding principles, or what made
this country great. It has been eradicated. That's the subject
matter of the point. The right tactions have consequences. The

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lack of consequences in an action has also has consequences.
America is in the throes of an epidemic of civil
illiteracy that can be traced to half a century of
not teaching the principles, history, and documents of her founding
in our most prestigious universities down to the primary school classrooms,
the teaching of our pre partisan founding principles and history

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has been downgraded and corrupted, leading to at least two
generations of Americans without the knowledge to be participants in
self government or the resolve to defend our republic as
it as though that we weren't worn by George Washingt,
who identified education in civics as an essential pillar of
freedom in the earliest days of our republic, and much

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more recently by the late Supreme Court Justice Sandra O'Connor,
who reminded us that civic knowledge was not passed from
generation to generation in the gene pool, but rather must
be taught and re taught to each new class of
rising Americans. The great Americans have always understood that maintaining
our freedom depends on passing down our founding principles and

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history through education. In the twentieth century, Ronald Reagan also
reminded us of freedom's fragility. But it's never been more
than one generation away from extinction. He once said, It's
not ours by the way of inherent It must be
fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it
comes only once to a people. He was channeling the

(38:09):
insights of other great Americans, such as Abraham Lincoln Frederick Douglas,
who understood that our heritage, heritage, and our liberty is
grounded and enduring moral truths about equal dignity of all
human beings. Seems as though those truths are no longer
self evident to our republic. Political violence is on the rise,
and intolerance to colors too many of our intolerance colors

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too many of our public debates and even private discussions.
It's no exaggeration to say that these are sorry consequences
of a civil illiteracy epidemic that has raged in our
body politic untreated for years. Yet it would be wrong
to blame the crisis merely on the emergence of competing
narratives like the New York Times sixteen nineteen project, which

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traces US history to the arrival of slaves and our
shores and labels Americans as irredeemably racist. This and other
narratives filled a void that was created by a shameful
inaction for civil education. Notice the emphasis the civic education
crisis our country fass seems to us to be part

(39:14):
of a larger cultural malaise, one that fails to foresee
the consequences of our inactions in other realms of society,
and then, once demonstrated, fails to do anything about them. Consider,
for instance, inactions to prosecute petty thefts under one thousand
dollars that have led to the exodus of retailers and
no longer able to run their businesses in areas prone

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to these crimes. Similarly, cash free bail has led to
the release of repeat offenders into society, where they again
commit crimes, some of them violent. Indeed, of our actions
as a nation sometimes have have had tragic consequences in wars, segregation,
and financial mismanagement. So have we as Americans demonstrated that

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these sometimes devastating results of our inaction. It's not an
overstatement to trace at least some of these problems of
our society to an insufficient understanding of the rights and
responsibilities of citizens in a free society and the values
they must share. A requisite understanding of these starts in

(40:18):
the home. I guess at six weeks, when you remove
from the home, you only got six weeks of opportunity
with your baby to teach them civics. I'm sure that
the New York education system is going to enlighten all
of your young people in a profound, thorough civics lesson.
I had to interject, which was kind of one of
the reasons I wanted to dive on into this. You're

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handing over the keys to your child's indoctrination from six
weeks of age all the way through college under the proposal,
and none of it's going to include a Civics lesson anyway.
People inspired with greater confidence in their civic tradition, however,
have the power to stop the march of tyranny. This

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is we thankfully do not currently face the kind of
revolutionary extremism that led to the catastrophe in the last century.
Our civic health is trending in the wrong direction. More
and more young people are turning to socialism, communism, or
other forms of radicalism because they have not been educated
in how our American form of government provides the greatest

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individual freedom and opportunity. Ben He mentions his organizations, Jack
Miller Center, and all the efforts they're taking to try
to bring back civic education across the education spectrum. But
is it too late? Are people going to embrace it
and welcome his type of organization or maybe make the
choice of sending children to a place like the Cincinnati
Classical Academy so they will get a thorough understanding of

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America's founding principles. It's a good question, I doubt. Under
Mamdami's New York six weeks old through College Education proposal
that the Classical Academy will be an option for any
parents in New York said reform must begin with acknowledging
the crisis at hand. Due to generations of inaction, Americans

(42:05):
are forgetting who we are supposed to be. Popular historian
David McCullough once said, something's eating away at the national
memory and a nation or community or a society can
suffer as much from the adverse effects of amnesia as
can an individual. Especially as the two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary of our country's birth approaches, it has never been

(42:27):
more important to remember who we are and to act
so that those memories come alive for the next generation
of citizens. I think he's definitely onto something, and one
thing I will observe. As terrible as Castro's Cuba is
still to this day and as crazy as it was,
he won the revolution got a little help from the CIA,

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who didn't really have a keen understanding of Castro's politics,
which was a total embarrassment. Well, we got duped by
the New York Times, who made him out like this
hero in the mountains fighting against the evil batiase the regime,
and that was evil. When it comes out the other side,
he wins a conflict in he's a devout communist. Oh whoops,
I didn't see that coming. But what did he do
from that moment forward? In addition to forcing people to

(43:11):
stand in four or five, sometimes six hour speeches about
the revolution and communism, they taught it literally every day
from that moment forward in the classroom the revolution. They
talked about the revolution, the founding principles, how do we
come together and take over this country? We call Cuba
the revolution. What was behind the revolution? Marxism, communism, They

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pounded it into the people's head twenty four to seven.
The education system was predicated on teaching the revolution. I mean,
if we took one tenth of that sort of concept
and ideas for education, our kids would get at least
some Civics education in the classroom. We quit taking it seriously.

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We forgot what made us great. We forgot it was
taxation without representation. We forgot all the doors being kicked in,
and one of the reasons we have the Fourth Amendment
in the United States Constitution. We didn't teach our children
about the like the for example, the problems the colonists
faced with the Church of England and the mandated taxation
to keep the church down the street that maybe you

(44:15):
didn't even belong to. The colonists incorporated. Well, the First Amendment,
Free exercise and no establishment. We're not a theocracy. We
have the freedom. That freedom came from their lived experience.

Speaker 8 (44:31):
On and on and on.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
All these reasons why it's valuable and important to teach
our children these so they can see it when it's
coming and reject the idea that they're going to capitulate
well and let someone trot over the freedoms and liberty
six sixteen Mike or Brian. I see her on the phone.
I want to take your call, but amount of time
rambling honestly six twenty two about car City Talk Station

(45:00):
D two three talks Brian didn't want to hang out.
That's okay. You can feel free to call if you like.
And going back to the founding principles and having an
understanding of it and being grounded in them and believing
in them as I do, it provides an excellent springboard
for all topics of conversation. I feel like I have
a firm set of principles, a little el libertarian, Brian.
I trust you with your wallet, I trust you with
your zipper. I don't want to control your life. I
think that's the best way to go through life, not

(45:21):
being heavy in terms and conditions of your life dictated
to you. So I can approach everything in every subject
matter from that perspective, and I'll cling to my freedom
loving perspective. Doesn't always work out for everybody under that concept.
I appreciate that, but the world's an imperfect place. But
at least I have a grounded set of principles that
allow me to freely say what I think is on
my mind. Do I believe everyone believes in what I say?

Speaker 9 (45:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Do I believe that there are critics out of the
world who criticize what I say and my belief systems? Well,
of course I do. I understand that. Am I ever
going to win them over? I don't know, hopefully, but
maybe not. Maybe vile things are being said about me.
I honestly don't care. And I think that's the point
of why I only reason I wanted to bring this up,
because I know that's really the perception I think you
have to go through life you don't care. Boiled down.

(46:06):
Here's a great illustration of what I'm talking about. You
got this Broadway star, someone named Kristin Chenoweth. I'd never
heard of her before, and I rarely bring up celebrities
for any reason whatsoever. They have an opinion, find that's okay,
they're entitled to it. But in the aftermath of Charlie
Kirk's murder, she said, I mean I disagreed with him
on almost every point I ever had heard him say.

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But I believe he was a man of faith, and
I hope in that moment when he died, that he
felt connected with his faith. Even though I find what
his ideas, even though I find his ideas were abhorrent
to me, I still believe he's a father and a
husband and a man of faith, and I hope whatever
connection to God means that he felt it. Now, that

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is a clear statement of disagreement with Charlie Kirk, although
acknowledging the tragedy of the circumstance, and I can't believe
any human being could ever find that offensive. Well apparently
they and this wicked star got dumped on by all
the LGBTQ community. Anyway. It was tough on me, but
I'm not going to answer any questions about it because

(47:10):
I dealt with it. It nearly broke me, and that's
all I'm gonna say. You probably know my heart, so
you probably know she was an advocate for LGBTQ plus
values and principles, and since he was not, the whole
community came unglued at her and criticized her for that
really truly innocuous statement. So she had to backpedal, backpedal

(47:34):
because of the outrage that she received online. Her life
apparently depends on what she perceives the rest of the
world's perception of her to be. She's broken emotionally because
a whole lot of people found a problem with a
statement that was totally defensible. A lot of people live

(47:58):
their lives that way. It's not just Hollywood stars. Anyone
with an Internet connection can make a statement about something
and you all have seen the backlash that can result
from that. Now, when you make the statement you're prepared
to stand on your principles, Do you contemplate your principles
and your a willingness and ability to defend that statement
to the end, or do you think you're gonna have

(48:20):
a hard time defending yourself? And if you're in that
latter category, maybe it's better you not make the statement.
But if you make it, are you gonna bend to
the whim of basically the entire global population? Are you
gonna bend to the whim of artificially created criticism which

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we all know, thanks to day have had or and
a million articles have been written about it, statements and
criticisms and ridicule that are automatically created by computers out
there basically operating on their own and designed to churn
out and submit statements like that, criticizing you for whatever
thing you utter online. Oh, I choose pretty much not
to participate. There may be I doubt it because I

(49:05):
don't believe I have that much critical importance to anybody
in the world. But you know what, there may be
forums out there that make fun of me. There may
be people out there who criticize and ridicule me. They're
entitled to the opinion, and I'm not gonna let it
sway my ideas. And the phone lines are open five
one three seven fifty eight hundred two three talk. Let's
engage in communication about our disagreements. Guy, I've got no
problem with that either. But stick by your guns. And

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if you don't have a ground and enough set of
principles that guide what you are saying out in the open,
and you feel as though you're going to cower in,
Oh my, I know I really didn't mean that, Well,
then don't say it in the first place. Just the thought.
Six twenty six fifty five Kercite talk Station Cleveland apps
the talk station six thirty one fifty five KERCV talk station.

(49:51):
Hey Cleveland, now hold on one second. Strucker said you
got to get this in here, and then he did
make a good point on it. You'll probably appreciate it. Sadly,
we have our latest homicide, this one South Fairmont eight
pm last night. Man shot in the back of the head. Oh,
I'm sorry, back and head answered place. Uh succumbed to
us injuries at the university since a medical center. So

(50:14):
South Fairmont so Joe happily reminded me of the Cincinnia
Acquirer article about how your neighborhood voted for mayor, crime
being a really, really hot topic for the mayoral race.
At least we thought it was, given all of the
calamities leading up to the election. South Fairmont UH seventy
one to eighty four percent aftab par Ball. Notably, I'll

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say it's doing Hi parking, because there it is. Hy
park came in fifty to seventy percent per ball. And
then there's that bond Hill problem eighty five to one
hundred percent AFTAB par bol in Bondhill, Cleveland, Al, thank
you for holding. Welcome to the morning show, my friend,
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
Pardon me, Brian getting over a little bit of bronchitus here.
I apologize, Okay, I'll try. I'll try to be true
shortened succinct here. Up to about the turn of the
twentieth century, education was a family and local thing, and
it was about then that the Progressive started their one

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hundred year march toward authoritarianism. And it really wasn't until
the formation of the Department of Education in the nineteen
sixties that things really started to go downhill. And what
we're seeing after the election of Mom Donnie and his

(51:37):
declaration that there's going to be childcare from six weeks
on is basically.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
The end game.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
They want to create a bunch of automatons to the system,
and that's basically what we're dealing with. So that's my comment, Tom,
I Tom, I agree. Don't vote Democrat than you Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I appreciate men. Hope you're on the med. Hope you're
on the men. That's exactly right. I mean, you can't
see that the writing company, I mean, it is advertised
to you they are taking over your children's brains. Since
that Classical Academy CVEG reduced flight capacity to beginning Friday

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morning tomorrow morning, this consequence of the cuts by Federal
Aviation Administration the announcement yesterday. I mentioned this early in
the program, thinking about Jay Rattliffe again, Prayers for Jay Rattliffe.
FA announced it be decreasing the flight capacity ten percent
at forty major airports. Welcome to one of them, CVEG.
Not clear how many flights are going to be cut
daily at CVG, but I would recommend maybe calling ahead

(52:47):
massive delays out there. Bus driveryccues are running a red light.
This happened in Boone County. It's been caught on dash camera.
Fox nineteen was sent to at dash camera showing the
Boone County school busading a traffic light. As it turns red,
the driver runs the light and makes a sharp left turn.
Humm Blox nineteen reached out to Boom County Schools about

(53:09):
the video. They said, yes, we have seen the video.
The incidents under investigation. It is a personnel matter. Those quote.
Of course, social media being what it is, lots of
people have seen it. Many said the driving in the
way show the video is unacceptable. Of course, so others
saying it's not a big deal. See what opinions are
like everybody's got one. Dennis has one. Dennis, thanks for

(53:31):
calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Hey, thank you for bringing me on so quickly. Saying
the areas that are suffering the worst of the criminal activity,
like the public execution that was done yesterday or the
day before, that puts a chill through the whole community
about opposing the establishment, which is the Democrat Party in Cincinnati.

(53:56):
You can't not underestimate the effect of law being forced,
Frederick Bastiat, just to put a fine point to it,
has a vigorous influence on how people will hope if
it becomes public that somebody is advocating for a Republican
in those districts, they're just as likely as anybody else

(54:18):
have a kid die from the effect ball assassination as
much as a bullet in the back of the head.
And that can't be understated. With the change in the
prosecutor's office limiting the ability of police officers to even
get a warrant or a heenus crime, let alone, some
of the broken window type philosophies that suppress clime in

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whole communities, well.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I'm supposed to be. There is that concern out there,
you know, the world's gotten so small. Literally anything you
utter is capable of being broadcast literally everywhere. So if
you have a yard sign supporting a Republican, you may
be the target of attack. But I suppose in some
areas you've got a Democrat sign in your front yard,
you may be the subject of an attack. This is
a risk that you run. Or you can just not

(55:04):
put a sign in your front yard and go vote
what you want to vote and not tell anybody how
you voted, keeping the issue between you and the well.
I suppose the candidate of your choice. I don't know, complicated,
my friend. Appreciate the call. Six thirty six fifty five
KRCD Talk Station. You feel free to call as well
Talk station sixty one fifty five car CD talk station.

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Phone lines are open. Taking advantage of the phone lines
being opened, Maureen, Welcome back to the fifty five CARC
Morning Show. Always appreciate your calls.

Speaker 10 (55:32):
Good morning, Brian. I wanted to talk about Bill Gates
and his strategic pivot on global warming that you talked
a lot about earlier in the week. Oh yeah, and yeah,
there was something going on at the same time as
that he was coming out saying those things where he's
changing his ideas on that.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Well.

Speaker 10 (55:50):
Apparently at the same time, the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired
by Senator Chuck Grassley was they opened an inquiry into
the bill and the Linda Gates Foundation regarding its compliance
with five oh one C three text status and rules.
So according Yeah, according to reports into twenty twenty three,
the Gates Foundation reportedly directed eleven point seven million dollars

(56:14):
to various arms of the CCP, two million dollars to
a company described as part of a China's military industrial sphere,
and six point seven million dollars to state run Chinese universities.
And the goal of the probe is determine if the
grants met legal regulatory standards. But at the same time,
I'm not sure if you are aware that the Health

(56:35):
and Human Services Secretary, Robert RFK Junior, he has started
a chemtrail task force. And I know you and I
have gone back and forth about the legitimacy of chemtrail. Yeah,
I know the spraying of yeah, very Miliminius.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I saw the crisscross patterns when I was we had
a weekend vacation. Little cabin we got as for a
high bid and a charity auction. We were in Indiana.
Cure starts now the shoutout, But I looked up and
there was this plane. It was spewing out something that
was different than the other airplanes that had crisscrossed, and
it went back and forth in a pattern, and I

(57:10):
had never seen that before. That is definitely on a pattern.
So I recognized the definite plausibility and possibility of chem
trails when I used to reject the idea out of hand.
But I've been slightly more enlightened Morien, thanks to folks
like you and my own observations.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
Well, well, RFK started a chemtrail task force, and during
that is forming that task force, he's come upon some
information about Bill Gates's connection with the chem trails, So
now they're going to be looking into him for that
as well. So I'm wondering if that has a part
of the RFK was on I don't watch Doctor Phil show,

(57:49):
but he was on that show and he was talking
about things with the connection with Bill Gates. And there
he talked to a lot of ranchers in Idaho and
talking about the spraying of they're crops and they've been ruined,
which is hurting our food supply. And he also talked
with ranchers in Nebraska who lost whole hers of cattle
from respiratory failure right after they did the low altitude

(58:12):
chemtrial spring. So Bill Gates is looking and they're looking
into him for connections to.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
That as well.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Well, you know, I have no problem with them investigating you.
It's like the UFOs and aliens. You know, we've been
talking about this for years and years, and finally they're
getting information out about it. I don't know that anything's definitive,
but at least they're telling people about what they've got,
what they don't know, what they know. I have no
problem with information. Maybe. And here's what I'm praying, Maureen
RFKL do a really good job investigating this because he's

(58:39):
really all about health and well being and the environment.
Great good for him. I'm hoping he finds nothing. I'm
hoping this is all a do much new about nothing,
And if he concludes that, then good, then we can
move on and not talk about it like it's lizard
people again. Or he finds something it is true. I
think we're all entitled to know if our atmosphere is
being polluted by the very people who claim to want
to eradicate pollutants from our atmosphere, right.

Speaker 10 (59:02):
Than well, Governor DeSantis past Bill's fifty six regarding geo
engineering and weather manipulation just this past April, and no anyway,
so he's working on that and banning those in the skies.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Again, and he doesn't cross to strike me as some
sort of conspiracy theorists. And I guess I have to
ask the outlawed question, believing I know the answer to me, yes,
did he have any evidence that that was going on
in the state of Florida to require him to enact
that bill or pass that legislation? I suspect he was
presented with proof, otherwise it would have been a stupid exercise,
right right.

Speaker 10 (59:33):
They have laboratory samples of the different chemicry found in
these we.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Answer this before. I'll let you get your point out,
but I answer me this, what what are these chemtrails?
This analysis? What does it revealed they're trying to do
if it's killing cows? And I'll acknowledge you made that
statement not knowing anything about whether or not that happened,
But what are they doing it for? And what is
the purpose of any given chem trail.

Speaker 10 (59:58):
Well, they're finding out that the bear malumium and austrontium
and fungus spores are causing Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and people,
and they're also so that goes to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Hold on, hold on that it may be causing that,
but that's not the reason they're putting it out there.
Or are you telling me our government is polluting the
year so that we all get Alzheimer's.

Speaker 10 (01:00:18):
Well, there's a deep state involved here that would like
to see a decreased population.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I know you're all about that.

Speaker 10 (01:00:24):
Yeah, yeah, I am. I know the whole globalist agenda
and Agenda twenty thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So that's a yes to my question. Marine. Yes, they
are doing this intentionally to give us all Alzheimer's well, well.

Speaker 10 (01:00:38):
To affect the population so that they're easily controlled. The
goal is to decrease the population. It's control and power
is the ultimate goal. And the fewer people you have,
the easier it is to control population. And when they
have Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, you saw a lot of drugs too.
But anyway, so yeah, it's Agenda twenty thirty. He kind

(01:01:00):
of goes into the whole thing about a decreased population. Well,
whether or not conspiracy theory, But that's kind of me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
That's fine. I don't mind you bringing it up. And
I'm free too, as I have been sort of poking
holes around the margins to find out where all these
motivations everything comes from. Fine, you have answers to that,
that's okay. Whether people agree with you or not, that's
okay too. Those theories have been flowing around for a
long time. But insofar as Bill Gates is shifting in
this nonsense that carbon dioxide and global warming somehow represents

(01:01:29):
a true existential threat, which it never has, I think
the main reason he's doing that is not to get
the attention focused away from his shenanigans and his illegal activities,
perhaps with the Gates Foundation. I think he's doing it
to streamline the process so he and other major industrial
company owners can get the nuclear power they want. I
think they're doing these data centers and they need to

(01:01:49):
shift the dynamic and get a lot of abundant power.
And of course with the Department of Energy recently along
with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission streamlining the process finally to
get it more nuclear power online, they're bending to what
he needs, and he's going to deliver on getting this
nuclear power. So I'm glad he did the shift, whether
it's for something related to Gates Foundation. But what really

(01:02:10):
pisses me off moreying about all this, the demand for clean,
reliable energy by data centers and major industrial companies is
bringing about a nuclear power revolution that we should have
been entitled to and had already by now, even without
the massive needs of data centers. Right, I get that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:27):
I get that it could be a double edged not
double edged sword, but dual purpose. You know, he's trying
to kind of clean up his image because he knows
they're onto him, and he also can benefit from it
from what you just said, right, well, yeah, not a dummy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
And to continue your theme, the fast tracking of nuclear
power would allow these data centers to function twenty four
to seven and do their number crunching and probably fast
forward the realities that you are talking about them wanting
to bring about. AI helps them with that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:57):
All right, exactly, love Mark, I love you, Marian.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Go ahead, one more thing.

Speaker 10 (01:03:03):
There's a movie coming out tomorrow that everybody needs to
go see. I don't think it's any coincidence that it's
coming out now, but it's called Neuremberg. The movie it
stars Russell Crowe starts tomorrow. It's going to talk about
military tribunal switch, another hot topic of mine. So everybody
go watch this movie. It starts tomorrow, Nuremberg. To learn
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I hope it's good.

Speaker 10 (01:03:22):
Mary, you up things to come?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Okay, Maury, thank you so much for listening to the
program calling in. I do really appreciate your calls, even
if you and I come to loggerheads over the truth, yeah,
kind or lack of there off all right, keep it up,
so if you keep you on my toes. Six forty
nine fifty five Kerseedy Talk Station Prestigion. It's six fifty
four or fifty five. Kerseedy talks to Mesh Congressman Warren
Davidson after the top of the our News and further
to the morning's point, I saw this article zero head.

(01:03:46):
You want to find it visualized in the Cost of
the American Dream in twenty twenty five, speaking of a
point about population control, I think that's coming about by
people's own choices, and the reasons may be nefarious. If
life has gotten a lot more expensive and affordability was
a huge issue, as according to all the pundits out there, affordability, affordability, affordability,

(01:04:07):
which got a lot worse under the Biden administration. When
you run the printing press twenty four to seven, it
does water down the value of the dollar. So they
have that to point to. But maybe that was intentional
point from the article. US home buyer age median age
of a US home buyer now fifty six years old,
and that's up from thirty one years old in nineteen
eighty one. Affordability is the issue, and of course lack

(01:04:30):
of housing. When you bring twenty million people into the
country over a very short period of time, you tend
to have a housing crisis because you can't respond quickly
enough to deal with that. Meanwhile, they point out US
fertility rates have hit record lows amid rising unaffordability. I
know you've probably read the articles about the fertility rates.
Nobody's having children anymore, one, I think, because people have

(01:04:51):
become more inherently selfish. It's me, me, me, first, Why
would I bring a children into this world. We're all
going to die. We're a bunch of cockroaches because of
global warming. And the reason is or just one after
another after another, and if you took the global warming
nonsense out of the equation, you didn't think children were
cockroaches that were going to destroy the planet, then you
probably would be more inclined to have one. If you

(01:05:11):
realize the joy and beauty that is to have a
family and to have loved ones that you created and
nurtured and developed, you probably would have children because it's
an awesome experience. But when it comes to the cost,
you have no control over that. And the more expensive
it is to live, eat and everything, the more you
have to do a can I even afford it to
have a child as much as I might want to
have one. So the manipulation of economics can have the

(01:05:33):
impact of yes, you deciding you don't want to have
children because it's just too expensive. And the figure that
they used for raising two children in this current environment,
and I take issue with it, but raising two kids
from birth to age eighteen plus, and this is why
I bring it up, plus a four year college public

(01:05:54):
or four year education at a public college eight hundred
and seventy six thousand dollars, And I thought, well, you
don't need the college degree. Put them in the trades,
let them earn while they learn. But if you took
that component out, that would probably be a sizeable drop
from the figure that they created. Some people say a
four year college may cost you is seventy five to

(01:06:16):
one hundred thousand dollars, So why not take two hundred
grand off the top. Then do the math, divide it
over eighteen years, and you realize, you know what, maybe
the beauty of raising a family is indeed worth. It
might have to tighten my belt a little bit, might
have to deny myself a few things in favor of
getting whatever the child needs for his or her development.
Trust me, that trade off well well worth it. Congressman

(01:06:40):
Davidson after the top of the hour news hope we
can stick around today's top headlines coming up at the
seven oh six at above KRCV talk station that be Thursday.
Brian Thomas always looking forward to talking with Congressman Warren Davidson,
So we get to do that right now. Become back,
Congressman Davidson. I certainly appreciate your willingness to come on

(01:07:02):
the fifty five Carsing Morning Show and address the listeners
and me and answer the question is the GOP going
to give up on this whole shutdown thing. Welcome back,
Congressman Davidson. It's great to have you on as always.

Speaker 8 (01:07:14):
It's always an honor of Brian. And is the GOP
going to give up on it? I mean, look, that's
been my frustration a lot of the Gops fighting like
the CRS. What we're fighting for, You're like, nothing preserves
the status quo, like a continuing resolution. It's just yeah,
what you were doing, just keep doing that. So it
is meant to be a peace offering, a truce to say, well,

(01:07:34):
let's at least keep the government open while we continue
our negotiations. Democrats have rejected that, I don't know fourteen
to fifteen times. However, many times the Senate Democrats won't
get to sixty votes to even have the real vote,
So this is a cloture thing that the real binding
vote could be later. So you could say, well, go
ahead and have your vote and vote for that. But

(01:07:54):
if you're opposed to the measure, you could simply say
I'm opposed. But they won't do that in the Senate. Yet,
there are signs that they might be willing to start
talking about doing it, maybe over this weekend. I think
there's a fairly decent chance by the middle of the
next week and the next week we'll get it done.

(01:08:15):
You know, once they did shut the government down, I
felt like, you know, there's a decent chance that this
goes past the election, but it's certainly almost certainly going
to be over before Thanksgiving. So that puts us in
the window that right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Now, because they all have to use an airplane to
fly someplace and the air traffic is getting shut down.
That was the announcement yesterday, And the sting is starting
to be felt beyond those who just been placed on leave.

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
Yeah, and look, you know it's felt because everyone has
at some point somebody they know, well that's affected. I mean,
and members of Congress do because you know, you're sitting
there looking at your staff and they're looking at you like,
we're going to get this stunt, boss, because they're not
getting paid. So you know, you look at some of
these kinds of things. Where in our area right Patterson

(01:09:03):
Air Force Base is probably the biggest area that's affected,
the largest employer in the state. And you know, people
always say, well, why do we even have non essential employees?
And that's not necessarily a relative importance, it's just a
sense of urgency. Like obviously you can't furlow the federal
prison guards or the prison wouldn't work. But you know,
the procurement wing of the Air Force is important. Generally

(01:09:24):
they're working on longer range stuff than buying stuff to
keep the Air Force open today. So the people that
are working on say a project for future fighter plan
or something like that, they're furloughed right now. The military
people are at work. It's important that we continue to
do these kinds of developments. I'd say we could be
a little more focused and effective at it, but nevertheless,
some of those people are very essential and they're not

(01:09:47):
at work right now because the timing and the urgency.
So you know, some of these kinds of things will
be felt in the long run, but for a lot
of people in their personal household, they're like, things are fine,
keep this going, so we'll see where we are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Yeah. At listener lunch yesterday, I met the first person
that I had encountered that was directly impacted. He's a
guy that was placed on furlough, and so I had
a good conversation with him. He didn't seem really too
angry about the whole thing. He's like, have you met
anybody who's been directly impacted, yet he's like, no, welcome
to the first person. So, yeah, it hasn't reached its tentacles,
hasn't reached that far. But when it does start interrupting

(01:10:23):
things like people's holiday travel, then you're going to hear
more and more angry voices like, wait a minute, it
does impact me. So if you say it's going to
be resolved by Thanksgiving, and I think I'm in agreement
with you on that for a variety of different reasons,
does that mean the Senate Democrats are finally just going
to say, Okay, we'll accept the clean resolution and keep
spending at Biden levels and then go back to work
on the twelve Appropriations bills, which is what the whole

(01:10:45):
setup was for. But doesn't the CR as it currently
exist keep the government open until some date in the
short term near future.

Speaker 8 (01:10:54):
Yeah, I mean the currencyr expires November twenty first, So
the version that passed the House, the version that they've
been voting on, expirers November twenty first, So it's not
really rational to pass that with that date. So I
think the minimal change that the Senate will do is
change the date We were really close to being done
with three of the appropriations bills in the House and Senate.

(01:11:16):
They're generally bundled in twelve. There's no magic reason it's
twelve bills. Like you normally have military construction and VA
funding in one bill. You normally have transportation and hood
in one bill. I mean, so it's not like a
magic combination. These things are clustered. But we had three
of the twelve bills done in the House and Senate,

(01:11:37):
and there are differences between them, and there were conferencing
those and some of those meetings have gone on and
they're not necessarily fully resolved, but there are a lot
of people fighting to say, let's put those three bills
on with the CR and show momentum towards the parts
of funding that are bipartisan. So there might be some
kind of face saving compromise like that, But those kinds

(01:11:59):
of things were already pretty close. And you know, there
might be out of the one and a half trillion
dollar list of demands, some things that were bipartisan. I
can't find anything in that list that I want to
vote for as a single line item, as a standalone provision,
but some of those things might be so not toxic
that they could be added to a bill and wouldn't

(01:12:19):
necessarily lose votes some of them. If you add them
to the bill, well you're going to lose a lot
of Republican votes, but maybe you pick up a lot
of Democrat votes. So we'll see. They may finally get
to that point. But for the longest time that was
the Democrats like, here's our list of one and a
half trained dollar demands, and they didn't want to talk
about anything but that whole one and a half trillion.
They might highlight one or two things, but their goal

(01:12:40):
was to get to some point. Maybe this is the
point they wanted to get.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Well, I really truly believe part of the strategy I
suppose you can keep the government shut down, that is
a strategy of some sort was to impact the election
on Tuesday. Do you think that had some measure of success?
Can give given the outcome that was not good for
the Republican inside of the Ledger anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:13:02):
I mean you look at Republicans that are saying, well,
without Trump on the ballot, we have a hard time
motivating our voters. Well, Democrats are the same way. Trump
wasn't on the ballot. So how do you motivate your voters, Well,
they got caught fighting. It's clear they're fighting for something
other than the status quo. And the status quo isn't
popular with anybody. Nobody likes it because it didn't freaking
work it. So we're supposed to be changing it. And

(01:13:24):
that's where my frustration with the Republicans has been. Yeah,
we're playing decent defense. I'm glad the Speaker in a
lot of ways has kept us out because it's prevented
the surrender Caucus from forming and saying, oh, let's compromise
even further. It's like, no, the CR was the compromise.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Quit it, you know. So if more people understood exactly
how it got to this point in time, there would
be no argument that who's to blame. If blame is
this key critical element for this shutdown. I mean, you
set the whole thing up to take all the wind
out of the Democrats sales by passing the Continuing Resolution
to keep funding levels of Biden era spending. I mean

(01:13:59):
that should have been the end of the discussion right there.
Or the CR passes, you work on the appropriations bills
and we're all done and moving on with our lives.

Speaker 8 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I mean that was the way I was designing.
I mean, you look at it, the shutdown, it's like
normally shutdowns over like, well, we put some really aggressive
provision in this bill, and you know, okay, it's partisans
so we can't get the votes or something like that.
There's nothing in this bill. I mean, now, granted, we
passed some other things earlier in the year, and that's
what they're you know, upset about. I mean, whether medicaid

(01:14:29):
they want to keep giving it to illegals in some states,
food stamps for example, they're talking about that today. But
you know, those kinds of programs. We said, look, if
you're able bodied, working age adult, you don't have the
penny kids at home. I mean, you get to go
to work eventually, go to work, go to school, volunteer,
do something productive, just like you would expect a friend
or family member if you're going to help them out.

(01:14:50):
You know, you help them out in a time of need,
but you wouldn't help them out forever. And you know,
we've got millions of Americans that way. And the crazy
thing is we get millions of non America. There's tons
of tons of non citizens on this list of forty
two million people. You think of that forty two million people,
that's bigger than the population of Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And you know, I saw an
article and I hope I get the facts roughly correct,
but I think it was during the Biden administration of
the asylum applications globally people trying to leave their country
seeking asylum in another country. In terms of the global
population seeking to do that, fifty percent of those requests
came to the United States. I mean. The only reason

(01:15:30):
I bring that up illustrates that, yeah, we are the
destination land. People want to leave their ridiculously govern authoritarian
regime or communist regime or socialist regime because it's a
terrible life and they want to come to America. And
the problem with that is conceptually it may be okay
because we get the benefit of all these people and
jobs and everything, but in the final analysis, they're automatically entitled,

(01:15:52):
for whatever reason, to hook themselves up to our social
welfare safety net, which isn't even funded well enough to
serve the American people who expect it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:01):
Yeah, and look, a lot of people on immigration they say, oh,
let's just go back to the days of statue of liberty.
Give us your tired, you're poor. Yeah, let's go back
to that where it like to come here. Part of
the condition was you get nothing. There is no welfare
state to begin with at that point. But even if
there were, you can't be a ward of the state.
You can't be a burden on the population. You come here,

(01:16:24):
and yeah, you get to be here. It's a slant
of opportunity, but you don't get your neighbor's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Money, exactly right, And there were no social welfare safety
programs when Ellis Island was running. We're overflowing with people. Pause,
we're being Congressman Davidson back. I want to ask you
about yesterday's a tariff debate for the Supreme Court, the
oral arguments there, and it does not look good for
Donald Trump if you can read the justice's tea leaves.
What are we going to do about that? Let's see

(01:16:49):
your boy back? How about that? From Congressman Warren Davidson
the talk station seven fifty five KRCD Talk station. Brian
Thomas here with Congression Warre and Davidson talking shut down
and for it real quick. Congressrom Davidson before we leave
that topic, and I got to ask you about the
tariff situation to the extent you've got an opinion or
thought on it. But is it possible that, assuming the

(01:17:09):
government reopens under whatever circumstances, that they are going to
move toward the omnibus thing or are we pass that option,
because that's the kind of scary stuff the sausage making
goes on with omnibus. You end up with a whole
lot of individuals getting what they want for their state
and usually cost American tax bar a whole lot of money.

Speaker 8 (01:17:26):
Congressman Davidson, Yeah, we're definitely not ready for an omnibus.
We you know, we still don't even have all the
details worked out on like defense appropriations. That's usually one
of the big ones that gets a lot of detail
added to it. And we have a Defense Authorization Act
that needs to pass before we do the defense appropes.
So we've got the three bills that's sometimes called a
minibus because it's instead of twelve bills, it's essentially a

(01:17:49):
twenty five percent bus, you know, So it's but those
bills have all passed before the House, so these aren't
like things that haven't passed these These have passed the
House and they've passed Senate, and and so combining those
in a conference thing really isn't the same kind of
thing as what you see in an omnibus, because we
did have the debate on those bills in the House.

(01:18:11):
We did offer amendments, and you know, we know what's
in them, and you know the realities that are all
big enough to go, well, there's some things in there
I really don't like. And you know, to be honest,
one of the biggest things that I want but we
can't get the votes for is I don't think the
federal government should send money to any political subdivision except states. Uh,
And you know, it's a vital lifeline. We don't really

(01:18:33):
have an easy way to operate today, like, for example,
fire departments need direct funding from the federal government to
really hit break even if you've got to. There's just
so many programs that are for fire for example, These
are essential and they're they're not partisan. We want them
to go there. If you look at how this is broken,
it's just you put lots of tentacles to every political

(01:18:54):
subdivision and it grows the power of the federal government.
They're dependent on the money, and they're dependent on the policies.
And if you sent the same money to the state,
the state would then send it differently, and it would
increase the power of the states and decrease the role
of the federal government. But we don't have the votes
for that kind of structural shift right now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Okay, Well, judgment Paul Atonata predicted it yesterday. You said,
these tariffs that Donald Trump engage in our taxes, he
does not have the power to levy taxes, just boiling
down his general points. That appears to be the way
the Supreme Court perceived this as well. That the Emergency
and Economic Powers Act in nineteen seventy seven, you can
declare an emergency. Yeah, but we're not in an emergency.
This wasn't sudden and out of nowhere. That this trade

(01:19:34):
problem has been building and has existed for well for
one hundred years plus. So you can't declare an emergency
for something that's been out in the open. If that's
the direction they go and they declare these tariffs unlawful,
what's going to happen? I mean, I guess I'm wondering.
One of the options is Congress retroactively ratifying them. But
since we're in the middle of a shutdown, I can't

(01:19:55):
really see the Democrats actually giving into Donald Trump on
literally anything, so that that's unlikely to happen. How do
you see this unfolding and being unpackaged.

Speaker 8 (01:20:04):
Yeah, I don't see any way the Democrats give the
votes to give President Trump the discretion to do a
thing like one of the no brainers that the Senate
Democrats rejected. We didn't get a vote on it in
the House yet, but it was if people are essential
enough to be at work, like air traffic controllers or military,
you know, prison guards, whatever, then there the payroll clerk

(01:20:25):
is essential to so at least be the people that
are working right now. And so they're like, no, no,
that gives discretion as the president Trump has to see
who's working and so he can just leave people not
at work, and so we can't do that. And so
I don't see on tariff's Democrats giving the votes for
that because it would allow President Trump to make a decision.

(01:20:46):
But that's what he was elected to do, is make decisions.
And look, we didn't have free trade before Donald Trump
was president. We still don't have free trade, but we
moved in that direction, and the tariffs were leveraged to
do that. And look, I won't say it's not unanticipated
that this would happen. I introduced a bill called the
Global Trade Accountability Act if this eventuality should get here

(01:21:06):
or whatever. The president is kind of reached a point
saying yeah, we're pretty content with our trade negotiations. And
it allows the president to change terms with anybody for
up to ninety days at a time, and it doesn't
say you have to change them up or down, but
you just have to change them within ninety days, and
then Congress votes on them, and the goal would be
country by country or group of countries by group of countries.

(01:21:28):
Then once you've got some sort of deal locked in,
then Congress votes and you lock them in and now
you've got some level of certainty. But any future president,
they could come in and change tariffs or up to
ninety days at a time, and you could say, hey,
we're going to put a ten percent tariff, and ninety
days is coming. The goal would be to use that
as leverage to say, look, we can either go up

(01:21:48):
or down, but we can't stay at ten percent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Well, I guess I'll have to ask the fundamental question
the trade agreements that he was able to successfully negotiate
had he gone out into the world. Sam's a power
to impose tariff's, but under his power over foreign policy
negotiated trade agreements with say, some the Chinese or the Japanese,
whoever it happens to be. He could do that on
his own. The power that gave him to negotiate the

(01:22:12):
trade agreements he's locked in so far came from the tariffs.
So is the original sin of his tariff wielding increases
that led to a trade agreement? Does that negate the
trade agreement? I suppose that's a legitimate question to ask.

Speaker 8 (01:22:25):
Yeah, I think this would just be the dumbest self
inflicted moment. Yeah, that the Supreme Court could deal to
our country. You know, could we do this a little differently? Sure? Maybe,
but that's for Congress and the President to decide. If
Congress wanted to claim that power, we could pass a bill,
but we haven't. And Okay, you could say, well, there's
a standoff between Congress and the president and the court

(01:22:47):
needs to decide. Okay, maybe that would be the case,
but the Congress hasn't said we're going to reclaim this
power from the president. You know, there's people that have
said we should, but generally that's Democrats. It's part of
party line fight, with the exception of you know, three
or four people in the Senate. Beyond that, it's like, yeah,

(01:23:08):
we want the president to have the power to do
this negotiation. And I forget which justice it was. I
think it's either Kavanaugh or Robberts who said, look, so
let me get this straight. Under the law, as you stated,
the president could completely cut off trade, can do a
full embargo for every country in the world. Right, Isn't

(01:23:28):
it seemed crazy that he could do that extreme of
a measure, but he couldn't put a one percent tarify
And that was the That was the question, and I
think as they contemplate this that might resonate. And the
other part is just if you look at the effect
of what the work has been done in this administration
and frankly the last it would completely gut you know,

(01:23:51):
this administration's work in foreign policy, which is very clearly
the president's realm.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
That clearly is well, I suppose Congress is still in recess.
You guys, have Kevin been called back to work yet,
have you?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:24:06):
I mean not for a formal session. So most of us,
I don't know about everybody, but you know I've been back,
you know, not every week, but most weeks I end
up going back for a few days. Yeah I was there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Yeah, I'm not suggesting for a minute you're not doing
work or that work is not getting done. But since
you haven't been formally called back, you can't vote on say, oh,
I don't know released in the Epstein files. People seem
to think that that's the basis for the closure right now,
and I just want to get that out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
In the air. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:24:31):
No, Look, you know, my good friend and Kylie Thomas
Massey's get a discharged edition.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
It will be ripe.

Speaker 8 (01:24:38):
And I think, look at they're going to get the signatures.
It'll come to the House for the votes. It'll have
the votes. But the real problem is isn't whether we
get another report or another set of files, or another
hearing or whatever. The real question is when is somebody
going to jail? And that's the question I want. One
of the hearings that didn't happen because we weren't in session.

(01:24:58):
Is Pam Bondy coming before for Congress and saying, okay,
explain yourself. You hand out binders to the press. You
say there's lots of there there. You imply that there's
going to be these trials. And then next thing, you
and President Trump are saying there's nothing there, and you're like, well,
please show us the nothing, because you with the binders

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full of blank pages.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
I mean, the public needs to know that.

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
And I think at some level that's a valid thing. Well, okay,
since you're not explaining, we're going to call the question.
Show us the stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
It invites conspiracy theories and invites thoughts and comments, and
you know, you can clear the air, release the dam files,
and let's move on with our lives. You know, maybe
there is nothing there and we can all say, oops,
I guess I shouldn't have drawn conclusions. But all those
conclusions are being drawn because of the craziness surrounding the
fact that we haven't seen him yet. Congressman Warren Davidson,
appreciate what you're doing for the American people, and I

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know you're hard at work in spy to the recess,
but I'll let you go to go back to the
hard work you're doing, and I invite you here on
the fifty five case Morning Sha anytime you want to talk.

Speaker 8 (01:26:01):
Oh, he's an honor of brain. God bless you and
your listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Take care of my friend. Seven point thirty right now
vide k. Feel like I'm in the five o'clock hours,
just waking up. Sorry, world's an imperfect place. Brian Thomas
is an imperfect human being. Five one three, seven four
nine fifty five hundred and eight hundred and eight two
three talk found five fifty on at and T Phunds
and I used all the time up in this segment
of Congressman Warren Davidson, au I suggest that was the
right way to go. So I don't have time for

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local stories except to remind you. Thank you. Joe Strecker
pointing out the Cincinni Inquirer's map. You can see it
for yourself. God to Cincinnati dot com. That's the Inquirer's website.
See if your neighborhood voted for Bowman or parvol in
the Cincinnati mayor's race headline from an article by Scott Wartman.
And Joe drew the parallel here because yesterday eight pm

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a man was shot in the back in the head
right there in South Fairmont eight pm. So keen interest,
Joe turned to the map of how your neighborhood voted
for mayor and look lo and behold in spite of
the crime problem being one of the issues obviously for
the election on Tuesday. Maybe not as prominent as you
or I thought it would be, but South Fairmont Court

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of the color chart voted seventy one to eighty four
percent AFT tab Provoll. And I would think even more
profoundly comical on this is the idea that Hyde Park
in the light blue segment i'll be apparently voted fifty
to seventy percent for aftab Provoll in spite of AFTABS
ignoring them in that real estate development thing. Same thing

(01:27:31):
with bond Hill and other neighborhood identified as being ignored
by the residents of bond Hill. Aftab Parvoll did and
moved it forward with his plans for the community in
spite of the community outrage. Bond Hill eighty five to
one hundred percent aftab Provoll. Okay seven thirty six. If

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you five caresee he talks station, feel free to give
me a call. Love to hear from you. And I'd
like you to call Peter Shabria Color Williams seven Hills
in his real Estate team. If you want the best
station five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five eight
hundred eight two three talk con Fi fifty on eight
and T phoned. And of course you want to hear
what the Polatan has said about the can the President
tax you? Of course he anticipated, I believe and fairly accurately.

(01:28:14):
What the Supreme Court was all about yesterday doesn't look
good for the Trump tariffs from a legal perspective, I
get all day long where Judge the Polatana came from
and where the Supreme Court appears to be going. It's
just going to be somewhat of a Charlie Fox trot
unwindening all of this if in fact, they deemed Trump's
emergency declaration well incompatible with the statute under with he

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he's relying to well advance these tariffs. So keep your
popcorn out on that they're fast tracking that no one
really expects. You're gonna have to wait around un till
June of next year to get the opinion. Given how
I don't want to use the word gray, but just
given the circumstances surrounding the tariffs and the urgency that
they need to be addressed, so let's go to the phone.
See what Bobby's got this morning, Bobby, Happy Thursday. Hey,

(01:29:00):
welcome to the show.

Speaker 11 (01:29:02):
Happy Thursday, my friend, Faith, flag and family. When you
keep those, you're always going to have freedom.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Got to have those firearms, oh, Bobby, Well that.

Speaker 11 (01:29:11):
Protects the first and the third Amendments. Yes, sir, we're
always going to use those.

Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
No matter what.

Speaker 11 (01:29:16):
So ay seventy two hour window, looking looking forward. We
already have shooting this morning, but we're still going to
handicap the whole weekend at four and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
So are they accepting murder odds on sports sportsbook yet, Bobby.

Speaker 11 (01:29:36):
Nobody's coming to that sometime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Well, you can bet on whether a catcher in a
baseball game is going to scratch his crotch. I think
you'd be able to, you know, to make a bet
on how many murders are going to be committed in
any given jurisdiction over the weekend.

Speaker 11 (01:29:50):
Hey, money's getting cut all beautiful weather, just prime time
for problems on the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Be careful, appreciate the call, Bobby. You hang in there,
my friend. Have a wonderful day. I feel free to
call yourself if you like. Yeah, I guess And I'm
going to give who is it? Brian? Brian made a
post on my Facebook post, so a different Brian, since
you ever thought about getting a moving company as a
show sponsor. Timing seems pretty good right now. It's kind

(01:30:20):
of predicated or springing from a common I made yesterday
about my wife wanting to move, and she selected Butler County,
although I think Claremont Warren and others also represent ideal possibilities.
Not ready to pull that trigger yet, but she's kind
of really strongly leading in that direction. And then I

(01:30:41):
pivoted over well because of what's going on in the
city and of course Hamilton County itself, but I thought
that in the context of New York City and mom
Dommy's big plans and the fact that they've lost so
many people already, and his plans are predicated on taxes
that he may not even be able to put in
place because it's going to require state cooperation. The Governor
Hock will probably not inclined to piss off the entire

(01:31:04):
state of New York. So Mom, Donni can give you
free stuff and things. But New York has had two
million more residents leave the state than entering, and Similarly,
New Jersey Illinois also also saw five hundred thousand more
residents leave their state for other states. That's all just
within the past ten years. And of course we all

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know COVID revealed it to everyone's eyes. If you have
the freedom to go and you can tele commute, you're
gonna leave the places where you were overregulated and over
taxed and go to places that offer you a well
resounding amount of freedom. By way of comparison, Texas, for example,
comes to mind, Florida comes to mind. They're already doing
advertising in Florida for the residents of New York City.
Come on in the water's fine, you're gonna love it here.

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So you have statistics demonstrating this, and of course, the
only people that are replenishing the population for all these
Americans who have left for better climbs are of course,
the immigrant population. And the Democrats are all wigged out.
They hate Donald Trump for removing the most notably the
worst of the worst of the immigrant population, because of course,
they got a census coming up, legal or illegal. If

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they're in your community, they're going to be counted toward
the twenty thirty census not that far away. Real time,
and of course that's going to determine the outcome of
the in the House of Representatives.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Huge nefarious reality behind that, and then comes back to that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:33):
Not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
I read this morning the civil literacy and the fact
that we Americans have failed in teaching the core basic
civics to our own children, the founding principles that all
children should know, the reason why our country was founded
in the first place, why there was an American revolution

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in the first place, in the federalist papers and the
concepts behind the Bill of Rights and our constant you
get rid of all the philosophy behind that, you're left
with really nothing to hang your hat on. And then,
of course add to that a massive influx of people
from different lands, and whether they're here for great reasons
or terrible reasons, whether they want, you know, to latch

(01:33:16):
themselves up to the umbilical court of our social welfare
safety net, or they came here to get a job
and work hard and participate. They lack civic literacy insofar
as American civics are concerned. And that's a real problem
because if you don't have people who are married to
our concept, the concept of freedom and what we stood

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for and the reasons our country was formed. You have
a nation full of people who really don't understand why
they're even here except gee, I'm getting free stuff and things,
or this is a better place to be than where
I came from. And I suppose looking at Mandami's policies,
pivoting back over that two million out migrations number, I

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think you can expect that to get a lot bigger,
a whole lot bigger, at least insofar as the people
who actually contribute to the tax base in New York
City specifically, but perhaps even the entire state of New
York seven forty seven. Right now, feel free to get
a call. Got a couple of figures to go along
with that before we get two, set me talk station

(01:34:29):
seven fifty one at fifty five KRC detalk station. Yeah,
running the numbers. I'll give credit to the Wall Street
Journal for letting everybody know how much this is going
to run. So, if you're a wealthy person in New York,
raise the highest state corporate tax rate from up to
eleven and a half percent from current seven point twenty five,
they're expected to generate five billion dollars off of that.

(01:34:50):
Now that needs state lawmaker approval. So he's got to
deal with the governor Hokal on that. So maybe he'll
have five billion to work with. Maybe not. Remember all
that money goes into the state coffer. How much will
New York City be allocated from that? Will they get
all of it? You'll have to answer to the other
residents of the state of New York when you increase
the tax, and then you have to look to see
if anybody's going to hang around and let themselves be

(01:35:11):
subjected to that kind of tax rate. It adds up,
it really does. In New York. Then you got a
millionaire's tax on that. So if you are making a
million dollars or more, and there are a lot of
people that make more than a million dollars in New York,
because you practically have to make a million dollars a
year to even afford to live there at all. So
they want to bump that up. A fifty one percent

(01:35:31):
increase on that, taking it up from three point eight
eight to five point eight eight, expected to generate four
billion dollars in revenue. See make the state personal income
tax rate the highest in the country. Universal childcare is
going to come in at a cost of between depending

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on who you listen to, three point five and nine
point five billion dollars annually, which I think consumes the
vast majority of the tax. Is that he's proposing the
increase which again are going to go to the state
and not necessarily all new to New York's benefits. So
you got a numbers game that's starting to add up.
Do you know what the cost of this ridiculous universal
child program where it's designed to indoctrinate your kids from

(01:36:15):
six weeks old through fifth grade when they then enter
the K through twelve education system, No, not tree Fitty Joe,
twenty six thousand dollars per child described as up forty
three percent since twenty nineteen. That number will not remain
at that level, starting to go up. And where are

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all the employees going to come from that are now
going to be responsible for six week olds up through
five years old? I doubt there are enough daycare facilities
in New York to cover that nut. And who in
this world would turn a six week old baby over
to a total stranger to raise during those critical bonding times.
That's a question for you to deal with and wrestle
with morally and ethically rent stabilization estimated cost for ten

(01:37:03):
years seven billion dollars. He's planning on getting a seventy
billion dollar municipal bond debt, which we'll have to pay
interest on to fund the construction of two hundred thousand
rent stabilized units. The billion dollar borrowing plan exceeds the

(01:37:25):
city's current but a debt limit, and he'll need cooperation,
yes again from the governor, to raise the debt limit.
So there already a financial catastrophe, and he wants to
exacerbate it. And I just kind of scratch my head
and wonder, g what's gonna happen in New York's bond rating.
Because if you're borrowing this kind of money, it does
come at a cost, the interest costs. And let's see

(01:37:52):
fast and free buses described as costing eight hundred million
dollars annually unfact on that one, sure and make it. Fore,
some are struggling with the concept of homeless people living
on the buses and the obviously those that don't have
the money are going to be riding the buses. Fine,
that's the point, right, we need to help all those
folks who can't afford the nominal fee to ride the bus.

(01:38:13):
But as the journal points out, the city has historically
used the bus and subway affares as a source of
repayment for the bonds sold to investors to build and
fix the transit system, which of course raises questions about
what is going to replace the bus fares as a
stable repayment source, and the pesky problem that the bondholders
would need to consent to changing the source of repayment. Yeah,

(01:38:37):
you can say you're going to do stuff in things,
and you can make grandiose promises on the campaign trail,
it all comes at a real cost, and obviously these
are multiple layers of complications. So I'm interested, very interested
in seeing what the Governor of New York decides by
way of approval or disapproval of these grandiose policies. Seven

(01:38:58):
fifty six have Sunshine laws And Kurt Hartman's gonna explain
a little bit about him for the Empower Youth seminar
coming up tonight at seven pm. Keegan Corcoran fifty five
krses Wine Samolier. He is gonna be giving us information
on the perfect wine pairing after you lose the election.
That'll be an eight thirty stick around.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
For all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Today's stop it eight five right now. If you have
KRC detalk station Happy Thursday. Thursday's mean if you're interested
in the Power You America Class or Empower You American Classes,
you get taken the Power of America Class seven pm.
Thanks to Dan Reagan old fram USA, formerly owner and
originator of the Empower Youth Seminar series as always tonight

(01:39:40):
in addition to an amazing seminar on It's kind of
like astronomy Tour of the Universe. You are here, you
gotta be at the Empower Use Seminars Studios three hundred
Great Oaks Drive to check this one out. You're gonna
get a tour of the entire universe. You stop at
the Moon, you go out and you inspect all the
planets and apparently like a light speed simulation going out
to Intertellar space to visit the universe and all the

(01:40:03):
galaxies and just appreciate the insanity of how big the
universe is. That should be an amazing class with Dan
regas he's one of the renowned experts on such matters.
But you're also going to get Kurt Hartman. I love
Kurt Hartman and everything he does attorney The Finny Law
firm concentrates on commercial and constitutional litigation, as well as
public interest litigation. You may have heard his name come

(01:40:24):
up in connection with local government issues. Welcome back, Kurt Hartman.
I appreciate you coming on the program again. It's great
to hear from you, Sir Brian.

Speaker 7 (01:40:31):
Always great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Sunshine Laws and according to the materials, and I'm anxious
for you to explain to my listeners at least a
little insight into what you're gonna be talking about tonight.
They are under attack and it might be more difficult
for the general public to get records. There are laws
on the books. The problem is it seems to be
more theory versus practice. Let me throw this at you, Kurt.
I can issue a Freedom of Information Act request. I

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can issue a request for government documents pursuing to the
laws you're going to be talking about, the Sunshine Laws.
Often those responsible for producing them ignore you, uh, and
it goes by the wayside. You wait weeks and months
they have passed the deadline for which to respond. Then
it seems to me you almost have to have a
bank roll to pay lawyers to go to court. To
enforce a law that's on the books that tells them

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they have the obligation to produce the stuff in the
first place. It's gonna get worse.

Speaker 9 (01:41:19):
It's gonna get worse, yes, and has gotten worse, uh,
by both a little bit because of the General Assembly's
amendments to the Public Records Act, as well as a
few decisions from the Ohouse Supreme Court, you know, instead
of you know, the Sunshine laws of their openness transparency.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:41:39):
You know, foundation principle is that your public records are
the people's records, Yeah, and that they belong to the people,
and that the public officials are simply trustees or custodians
of them for the benefit of the public. But because
it's a matter of state law, the General Assembly can
put you know, and they constantly, it seems like each
General is something putting more and more exemptions or hurdles

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or obstacles, if you will, that favor of the government
and undermine transparency. You just feel the things, and you know,
we're just go talk briefly about it tonight as well,
because I think this astronomy thing has really got to
be the neat part about it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:15):
About my presentation.

Speaker 9 (01:42:17):
So to give you an example, I think one of
the things I'm really really disappointed in is just earlier
this year they amended to state the Public Records Act
with respect to getting your videos from police officers. Body
cameras or cruiser videos used to be used to be
able to put in a request and say hey, I

(01:42:38):
want to get the body camera for this incident or
that incident. Right, yeah, you can still get them, but
now they have said, you know what a local law
enforcement can authorize is authorized to charge you up to
seven hundred and fifty dollars for the time and expense
it takes to prepare go.

Speaker 7 (01:42:57):
Through redact that video.

Speaker 9 (01:43:00):
And so you know, if the average person has an
interaction with law enforcement and just says, hey I need
to see the video, want that video of my that's
stop with the police officers. The department can say, hey,
before we do it, you got to pay us x
dollars up to seven hundred and fifty that we think
it's going to take to get.

Speaker 7 (01:43:19):
That video ready for you.

Speaker 9 (01:43:21):
So, for example, you know the infamous brawl downtown right right,
you know there were body cameras. When the police finally responded,
you put a request in and you know for that,
it was like, hey, we want to charge you for it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
We wait, is it real quickly?

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Right now?

Speaker 9 (01:43:41):
I did, And they did charge charge. They charged the
news media when the news even the news media went
in for it and they said, hey, in that case,
they already charged them like twenty dollars plus or minus
because they said, hey, we can do it pretty quickly.
But again, it's this principle that hey, these are people's records.
This is accountability, this is oversight.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Kurt Hartman, let me ask you this. I am free
as a citizen to go to the public records that
are in the Clerk of Courts office. I can review
them there. If I want a copy of them, I
just pay to have a copy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
May right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
It's like the old Xerox stage put a diamond, you
got a copy. But I can view them there. Why
not just make the damn video available to the public
at the police station or at some viewing area. They
can look at it there and if they want to
take a copy home with them, then let them. But
more fundamentally, what's with the redaction thing? If this is
a police officer in public doing the public servant's duty,

(01:44:34):
why would I want a redacted video, and upon what
basis would they take something out of it?

Speaker 9 (01:44:39):
Kurt Well, the reaction and usually what they do on
the redactions of videos is they just blow a part
of it. It may be somebody giving their social security
Usually it's like a social security number. Okay, somebody gives you,
I guess your name, your social security number, or they.

Speaker 7 (01:44:55):
Have the police monitor in the vehicles.

Speaker 9 (01:44:58):
You know, they're looking at that un on somebody license
play or somebody's ID, and the video captures the information
on the screen. So that's the predominance of it. So
there may be a few statements that are made. There
may be some confidential information that you want redactive. So
it's not really that bad in terms of redacting the videos,
but it's like, you know, the time to go track

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down the video, time to review it, the time to
listen to it to make sure somebody doesn't tell tell
a law enforcement Also, here's my social security number, go
you go check me out. They can charge you now
the time and their expense for preparing that. So you
got you know, something like that, you know, and it's

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both complete.

Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
You know, the video is not only with.

Speaker 9 (01:45:42):
Law enforcement, but if you go to the prosecutors and
say hey, I want that video. The prosecutors can also
charge you for it. The other other interesting thing was
they they the General Assembly put an edition in where
they exempted or said hey, you can't get information of
our communications members are communications with other members or staff.

Speaker 7 (01:46:07):
So when these.

Speaker 9 (01:46:07):
Legislators are saying, hey, dear colleague, please support this legislation,
dear colleague, please do this or that, you can't get
those in those correspondents. What until the General Assembly is
no longer in session? What's the base thanks for going
on while this information is being exchanged amongst members of
the General Assembly. Nope, you can't see any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Well, it's at the point in time when you really
critically need it before decisions are made. I don't want
to review something after the fact, after they've already enacted
some legislation or done done the work and it's all
over with. The real time reporting seems to be necessary
for the public goods, so we can help, you know,
it will inform us and allow us to give an
opportunity to or elected officials about which direction we want
them to go.

Speaker 9 (01:46:48):
Yeah, you know, especially when you think about the capital budget,
the budget or the braking budget or the capital budget.
You know, who's putting on who's advocating to put this
line linelement of you know, a special deal or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:47:02):
Yeah, you can find out about it two years later,
a year later after the General Assembly you know.

Speaker 7 (01:47:07):
Is no longer in session.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Yeah, oh hey, we just found about about Operation Arctic
Frosts that a parent was going on for a whole
time under Trump administration, violating everybody's constitutional rights. But it
takes time to get out the information. But what of
the what is the motivation behind this cracking down on
publicly available information? What's driving this? Because it's going the
opposite direction, Kurt, from where I would want it to go,
because I'm in favor of giving us everything that we want,

(01:47:31):
since we're paying for all the work that they do
and they're impacting our lives every day.

Speaker 9 (01:47:36):
Yeah, I just think I think it is more deference,
you know, to to the government. That government, you know,
and the government at the Prostitutors Association or you know,
complain about all we're getting in in data with these
public records requests. You're distracting quote unquote distracting us from
doing our job. Well, part of their job is getting

(01:47:59):
information to the public. And I think that developed this
lack of appreciation. You know, then that is part of
their job. And so and so the and the General Assembly,
you know, reacts says, okay, fine, we'll help you here.
You know, it's almost a death of a thousand cuts. Yes,

(01:48:21):
you know, okay, this may not be a big thing.

Speaker 7 (01:48:23):
That may not be a big thing, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:48:25):
I mean, you know, another thing they except now are
the work schedules, you know from what they call is
what they call designated public workers, but essentially it's law
enforcement officers, you know, et cetera. You know, and I'll
tell you I've done requests before to say, hey, I'd
like to see, you know, the schedule for who's on duty,
you know, two weeks ago or five weeks ago.

Speaker 7 (01:48:46):
That's now exempt.

Speaker 9 (01:48:47):
You can't get the work schedules for law enforcement and
so you know, I mean, I can understand a prospectively,
you know something going forward, I don't want to see
who's on duty next week.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Right right right, And these trying times we live in
the docsing the whole idea of having target law enforcement officers,
specific ones perhaps targeted knowing where they're going to be
and at what time. It's a little bit or well
and creepy that that might be readily available, and I
understand around the margins, but not a broad brush approach
to this, just saying no, you cannot have that under
any circumstances, and.

Speaker 9 (01:49:21):
You cannot have who was on duty four weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
And yeah, that doesn't make any sense either, because that
could be critical information.

Speaker 9 (01:49:28):
But again, it's this react I think it's reactionary to
special interest within the government, you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:34):
Know, I mean, but if you think about it, and
it's amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:49:37):
You know, there are all these lobbying type organizations, right yeah,
and some of them are paid for by taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:49:45):
You know, the Ohio Municipal League.

Speaker 9 (01:49:46):
The Ohio Taxpayer Association, Prosecutors Association. You know, they are
all lobbying type groups up in Columbus that are formed
and organized and consist of the government officials. And it's
being paid for by are tax dollars. So you have
tax dollars lobbing to undermine you know, the public interest

(01:50:07):
and there and the general public we're paying, we're paying
to be lobbying against. But you know, nobody pays to
lobby for the individuals.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Well, then there's the other component of kind of the
springboard for our conversation on this. There are laws on
the books which allow us to have these records. You're
pointing that out. They're changing them to make it more
difficult find But when they don't even comply with the
law in the book in any form, and you got
to go to court to get them to an issue
there to to produce the documents you've asked for, they're
inviting the public, the taxpayer dollars, to have to pay

(01:50:35):
for litigation expenses on their side of the ledger because
they refuse to do the job they're supposed to do
it hand over the information. Shouldn't there be some sort
of harsher harsher penalty for those who refuse. How do
you how do you bring about compliance without litigation? Kurt?

Speaker 9 (01:50:51):
In a certain sense, you can't, you know. I mean, yeah,
they've got public office, is what I'll slow wrong. I
mean you talked about, you know, going down to the
clerk of Court's office. Right, Hey, I want to go
see a court record, I can just go down there,
get to look at it, and if I want to copy,
give me a copy.

Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
I've got a lawsuit over that case.

Speaker 9 (01:51:07):
I'm actually suing the Hamilton County Clerk of Courts because
their office refused to provide and allow the inspection. Just
somebody to go in and see a court case, you know,
because and it dealt with the brawl. If you remember
when the city of Cincinnati decided they wanted to you know,
charge criminally you know the victim, the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
The guy who got beaten up the Russian.

Speaker 9 (01:51:30):
Yeah right, the Russian go down, say hey, we want
to see that filing. What did the city file? And
the Clerk of Courts was no, we're not going to
let you see it. There's a motion to seal that case.
So until the judge decides. Well, whether about the judge
decided to seal it or not didn't matter. We're there
saying we want to inspect it. They said no, so
we had to sue it. We're suing them over and

(01:51:51):
they've got litigation going over that. There's something that's basically
as a court record. And it's just this attitude, you know.
And it's not a partisan that dude, I think you
get it from both sides of the while.

Speaker 7 (01:52:04):
And so you know, you're right, the.

Speaker 9 (01:52:06):
Option is the negation The thing is, you know you
talk about hiring attorneys, and you got to hire attorneys. Now,
if you win the court, can you know, usually will
will award you your attorney fees or at least some
of your attorney fees. That seems to be the option
they given. That's the only option you really have. I mean,
you know, the concept of the philosophy is, you know,

(01:52:26):
the remedy is elections. You know, if somebody is doing something,
not performing their public office right or appropriate, the remedy
is vote them out at the next election.

Speaker 7 (01:52:35):
But I hate to say, I mean, if Tuesday Todd.

Speaker 9 (01:52:38):
Is anything, it's like, you know, the people will just
but you know, the majority of them, it appears in
the city of Cincinnati will just follow follow sheep literally whatever.
You know, it's the Democrats slate card.

Speaker 7 (01:52:50):
I'll just blindly voteed and this, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
But on Tuesday, You're right, I understand that, understand that,
and that quite often is the only remedy we were
left with and by to the fact that it doesn't
always work to our advantage. But the world keeps going on.
Litigation continues. These issues can't wait for elections to resolve themselves.
They have an obligation to produce information. You need it
now as a part of maybe the defense of your

(01:53:14):
client or some other issue in a civil litigation. Give
us the damn information.

Speaker 9 (01:53:19):
No, and you you try it, but you know, there
was one of the decisions. Chief Justice Kennedy said, you know,
sometimes when you get the information is just as important
as what the information is. But unfortunately, the next time
I see the Chief Justice, I'm going to kind of
you know, vendor air a little bit. You follow these
lawsuits at the Supreme Court to get these records, it
takes them a year to issue.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Decision exactly exactly, you know, and that doesn't do.

Speaker 7 (01:53:44):
Any good for anybody either.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:53:46):
It just seems the decisions coming out from the court
taking longer than they have historically and definitely longer than
they should. And so, yeah, you get your victory at
the end of the day, you get your victory a
year from now saying yeah, you're in title to those records.
But then but then you turn around the next stage,

(01:54:06):
similar issue arises. The governments they know they can slow
roll you on public records.

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
Happens time and time.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
I call that a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:54:14):
With the City of Sepia's you know, I've got numerous
requests into the City of Cincinnati on behalf of clients.
City slow rolls it we're looking at.

Speaker 7 (01:54:23):
We've got to review it. I mean, even some basic records.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
Well, this is this is not just a local or
stay phenomenon. This happens all the time in the federal
government level, perhaps even more. I've had Congressman Weinstrop in
here talking to you know, he's in he's in some
meeting or hearing about some issue, and he asks the
intelligence community or whoever's in front of him for the information.
They basically say, no, we're not going to give it
to you. I mean, this is he's on behalf of
the American taxpayers trying to get to the bottom of

(01:54:48):
answers and questions. The information is out there, and they
blanket just say, basically, go to hell, I'm not gonna
give it to you. This is the world we live in.
And I find that as offensive as it can possibly be. Kurt,
is this done and baked into the cake? Or we
have time to get in touch with our elected officials.
Where are we with in terms of these Open Records
and Open Meetings Act reforms?

Speaker 9 (01:55:06):
Well, those reforms have already gone in you know, I mean,
I know in terms of restricting the General Assembly in
terms of that, you know, being able to charge up
to seven hundred and fifty dollars you know for videos.
I knew the newspaper association and actually very critical of it.
You know, I was just crying it while was being considered.
But that those are those arguments apparently set on death fears. Well,

(01:55:30):
you know, at the end of the day, the problem,
I think the General Assembly realizes this is not the
trans this aspect of openness and transparency.

Speaker 7 (01:55:38):
Is not a priority for voters.

Speaker 9 (01:55:40):
You know, voters are more going to be more interested
in their public safety, the economy, their taxes.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
You know, if this was on a picking moder list,
it's going to be very low on that list.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Yeah, it's a weed dweller issue, Kurt, I'll can see.
But that's why we have you to look out for
our best interest and keep looking at where the weeds
are and what the problems are with them. You know,
it's kind of funny and comical. It's adding insult to
injury seven hundred and fifty bucks. That's after you litigate
and win the litigation to get them to produce the documents.
Then you're gonna be whacked with a seven hundred fifty
dollars charge right.

Speaker 7 (01:56:13):
Well, actually, actually probably wouldn't have.

Speaker 9 (01:56:15):
A case until you say, here's my money, okay for
day Dane, don't even have to prepare the video until
you pay whatever their estimate is that it's going to cost.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
Pay up front. We'll get around to it sometime, maybe
a year from now. Kurt Hartman is gonna be talking
all about this tonight in the Take twenty segment of
the empower Use seminar, which will include a fascinating tour
of the universe. Takes place at three hundred Great Oaks
Drive in studio or you can log in from home,
but I think you will certainly benefit from being there
for the fascinating tour of the universe, and of course
you can ask Greg our Kurt a few questions. Kurt,

(01:56:46):
thank you so much for your time this morning and
for taking on this task tonight. I hope you have
a really well attended seminar tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:56:53):
Great. Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Keep up your great work, brother, you're really helping out
A eight twenty nine fifty five KRC detalk station Slight
dramatic build up in anticipation of post election defeat, wine
choices in studio, the fifty five KRC residents Samier, we

(01:57:15):
keep them parked in the closet. Keegan Corcoran. Now actually
he's from Magnician Wines Wine wine wholesaler. Keegan is almost
as high as you can get in terms of standings
globally for Samier, he is just below the highest most
lofty status ever. You're one of four hundred six hundred roughly,
and what's the level advanced Advance and then there's master, right, Yeah, Okay,

(01:57:38):
So someday the snobbery only increases from here. Oh lord almighty,
you won't even be in the same room at me
with man. I read the tests questions, yeah, your dad
sent them over to me. Really yeah, yeah, the fifty
pages single space questions, like you know, I just it
is the most insane amount of volume of information. I

(01:57:59):
could not believe the stuff you're supposed to know for
that test.

Speaker 12 (01:58:01):
Those were if he sent you the file, I'm thinking
because my dad and my mom. But my dad was
the one who was like reading the questions for me,
like in preparation leading up to the exam, the Masters
of the Exam, which yes, at for in April, you
know that that is Yeah, single space questions and it's
about seven I think it's about seventy five pages.

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
Yes, that's total.

Speaker 12 (01:58:26):
That's just the the written part. Well, that's just me
like transponting my note cards for this exam to that.
So the volume information extends out beyond further than that. Yes, certainly,
just stuff. You know, there's no point for me like
to burn questions that I already know. So it's you know,
the theory is anyways, like once you start to really

(01:58:47):
cement the information, you can start eliminating questions and then
hopefully you know, minimize your quote unquote deck.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Yeah of questions. Well that's why there are only four
hundred I'm in the planet because looking at those questions,
we're all nuts and are so many people. You are
absolutely insane wine people. But congratulations, I'm glad we have
folks like that. You will pass at some point, and
most people do not pass their first, second, third, fourth time.
It's just then extraordinary challenge in studio. Also, I can

(01:59:16):
never look Thomas Woodley, who's here from Lydian Winery which
is located in outside of Seattle, Washington, and he's brought
some selections. What we're doing today is using the Tuesday election.
We'll say losses. I don't even know what your political
affiliation is, Thomas, it doesn't matter. But if you're reeling
from an election loss and you're feeling blue, or you're
in a celebratory mood, you want to drink something. You

(01:59:36):
brought some great wines with you to talk about today.

Speaker 11 (01:59:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:59:39):
Yeah, it's wines for every occasion. I think either way,
it's good angst relief. So that's kind of what we're
going for.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
We're always looking for an excuse to drink. It's a
okay so, and you're fine doing that here in the
Morning Show. Although there are rules that prohibit the drinking
of wine in the studio, we're going to certainly abide
by those rules, or at least we're going to give
the perception that we are. Starting with Hold on, it's Justine. Yes,
that's the name of the wine. And remember this is

(02:00:08):
a Venia winery. A ve e n N I A
I got that right, yeah, Jachima Valley, Oh no, I'm
looking at the red wine. That's not the one we're
talking about. We're on the Lydian SBS Lydion SBS. I apologize,
I'm not the saumier. That's what we got one here
to keep me on track. So this is a white

(02:00:29):
one with an eighty percent so on bloc and twenty
sem semion. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:00:34):
And the name Lydian refers to the musical mode in
so the winery where there's six of us, half of
them are classically trained musicians, so there's a lot of
music nerds, and uh, Lydian is one of the classical
building blocks in music theory.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
So that scale that's on.

Speaker 13 (02:00:53):
The label is the actual Lydian mode itself.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
And you can play that on piano, no kidding. Yeah,
well I throw my what eight years of piano, six
years of trumpet, a little bit of clarinet out the
window because I never took music theory. Yeah yeah, so
you're on triangle now. Basically I can still eat set
music slowly and very very painfully. I can get through

(02:01:17):
the piano still, but I don't I don't practice much anymore.
But this this wine, you know, if I was able
to taste it, I would call it amazingly refresh refreshing, light,
not dry. What would you characterize it in terms of,
you know, on a scale of you know, really dry,
too sweet.

Speaker 13 (02:01:35):
I mean it's it's it's it's technically dry in the
sense that it doesn't have a whole lot of residual sugar.
But a lot of times you get with with especially
with semion, you get like perceptible fruit sweetness.

Speaker 10 (02:01:45):
M hm.

Speaker 13 (02:01:46):
So yeah, it's kind of always hard to parse out
when you're talking about sweetness because some people refer to actually,
when we're in the wine world, how much residual sugar
is left over from fermentation?

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
I got you.

Speaker 13 (02:01:57):
So they stopped the fermentation at a certain level, you know,
especially just taking like German reesling for example, At certain
levels they stop the fermentation. Those wines have a resultant
lower alcohol ABV because some of that sugar was left
to not metabolize and stay in the wine.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
That's what impacts the alcohol level.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
Okay, Because I was jokingly saying to Keegan when he
came in, I said, we're drowning our sorrows. I suspect
what you brought in are all the highest alcohol by
volume wines that are out there.

Speaker 13 (02:02:28):
Yeah, I mean these are. This one isn't super high,
it's like thirteen percent, but the but The idea is
is that when the grapes come in, when the grapes
come in ripe, they all are fully ripe in terms
of potential, sort of think of it in terms of
like high school physics, like potential and kinetic energy, right right,
and they so they have they're all fully ripe. It's

(02:02:49):
just a question of how far do you let that
sugar metabolize into alcohol during fermentation.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Okay, so one of my favorites, Keegan those dulce it's
a dessert wine, Yes, that kind of thing. They let
the grape go as far as it can go in
terms of ripening. It's almost to the point where it's mushy. Right.

Speaker 13 (02:03:06):
Yeah, that's like would be like considered like a late harvest.
So that's even like pushing the sugar levels beyond what
a normal table wine would be got. And then and
then they still have to they still have to ferment
the hell out of it just to get it to
even that level. And typically and typically those wines are
even more difficult to make because you have to have

(02:03:28):
really strong yeasts that are going to continue to metabolize
the sugar into alcohol.

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
And a huge human element in terms of harvesting too,
because you have to pick them just at the exact
right now.

Speaker 13 (02:03:38):
Yeah, I mean, or if you get into stuff that's
actual ice wine, yeah, you get you get like in
you know, they can make ice wine by actually freezing
the grapes, but it kind of is.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
But but traditional ice wine extraction.

Speaker 13 (02:03:51):
Yeah, but traditional ice wine.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
They they actually.

Speaker 13 (02:03:53):
Harvested after the clusters have have frozen on their own
just because of weather, and then they come in.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
But that that accounts for why they're comparatively expensive. Yes,
very laborious, very laborious. We're gonna continue with Thomas Woodley
and Keegan Corcoran.

Speaker 5 (02:04:08):
Keean.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
You can find Keegan if you're interested in commercial or
wholesale purchases of wine, if you're a winery or a
wine store, a restaurant, anybody out there that's interested in
working with Keegan. He's amazing. He's the greatest guy in
the world when it comes up. You know, it's just
his personality, his friendliness, his knowledge is clearly impeccable. In
ignitionwines dot com, and you focus primarily on domestic wines

(02:04:34):
or because I was going to ask you about paus,
I'm going to ask you about tariffs. Sure, and see
if that's impacted your world and given what you sell,
because I know it's a real problem for some European
winery or things like that. Solastic. We'll pause. Bring Keegan
and Thomas back AT's tight thirty seven Right now fifty
five KRCIT Talks Station. Something is happening.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
It's time to.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Forty one fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas with
resident wine samer Keegan Corkoran in studio ignitionwines dot com
and one of the restaurant groups that works with Keegan.
You may have heard of Jeff Ruby. Jeff Ruby restaurant. Keegan.

Speaker 12 (02:05:11):
You were there for twenty years as their their head
so many a uh not in that in that position
as beverage director for about the last eight I was
with them for twenty years. Yeah, all right, And if
you accumulated all that knowledge and experience, that's when you
broke off and decided you're going to go on your
own and do a wholesale wine. And you've been very
successful that you're still working with the Ruby restaurants. And
I failed to mention this amazing uh sps from Lydian Winer.

(02:05:33):
He's Thomas Woodley in studio from Lydian is available at
E and O restaurant.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
E and O.

Speaker 12 (02:05:37):
Yeah, for sure, all three of their restaurants. And uh,
you know, they do a they do a great job.
Shout out to my buddy Tim that works over there.
He's he's the man.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Tim. Appreciate it and you're working with the right guy.
Keigon Corkoran moving over, Oh real quick on the Lydion SPS,
which is again the Sauvignon blanc semi on mix. What
you would you recommend serving this with? It's pretty much
it's just really good. I can see this having very
broad applications including like, you know, just sitting down and drinking. Yeah,

(02:06:07):
I mean, it's it's great for first course.

Speaker 13 (02:06:10):
You know, it's a day where even when you get
a sunny day like we had like yesterday, Oh yeah,
just go sit out on the back deck and enjoy it.

Speaker 12 (02:06:17):
Thomas always brings the great weather, by the way, when
he comes in, like every market visit likes, the weather
is just perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Guess is not normal. I think that's I think that's.

Speaker 13 (02:06:25):
Just due to the fact that I'm a born and
raised Seattleite and the weather gods look upon me unfavorably
most of the year. VIM from Seattle, so I come here,
they do me a solid in any place I travel to,
they're like, hey, you know what, We're gonna give you
some some ringer weather for a few days.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
All right, Well, consider I grab the wrong wine when
I was talking about the the sbs now in hand,
the Avenia that is the winery.

Speaker 13 (02:06:51):
Venni is the main winery.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
Yeah, Justine is the name of the wine. And it's
it's just a described as a red wine, which I
presume is a blend.

Speaker 13 (02:06:57):
Yeah, it's a it's a what we call a GSM,
so it's a it's a that's sort of a catch
all term for a Southern rond blend. It's primarily almost
two thirds grenache with Maved and Sarah, so we're equal
fans of Bordeaux and Roan varieties at of Ania, so
you can find examples, really beautiful examples of both great

(02:07:21):
varietal blends. And the name Justine is a cool story.
It's there's a writer by the name of Lawrence Durell,
and he was his first book that was a part
of the Alexandria trilogy came out in nineteen fifty seven
and Justine was the sort of mysterious heroine that he
followed around and was beguiled him. So that's why Chris

(02:07:42):
our winemaker, who's a literary guy like me, came up.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
With the gun crew over your one. It's a fun crew.

Speaker 13 (02:07:48):
Stereo wars are a real thing, man. I mean, you
got three classically trained musicians, and Chris and I both
work in record stores growing up. It's it's knockdown, drag out.
There's a lot of opinions. I can absolutely man. All right,
Keegan Corcoran, since you are so amazing at breaking down flavors.
I just recounted to the story about this little note.
I was thinking it was like black pepper. There was

(02:08:09):
a little bite in this wine that I really love.
And I'm like, drive me crazy, I asked Keegan. I
send him a text, But what the hell is that ginger?

Speaker 10 (02:08:17):
That's it?

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
That's right, because there's a bite to ginger, that ginger
flavors right there. I kind of sat for years and
thought about it. Never would have come up with that.
It took you two seconds. What would you say this
of any Justine has by way of flavor?

Speaker 12 (02:08:29):
So I think it's a very classic interpretation of or
a domestic take on you know what Thomas said, so
rowned varieties, particularly for me, Southern rhone, which is a classic,
so it's a part of France and the kind of
southeastern ish part of the country. But you know where
they grow a lot of grenache, Surrah mor Vedra, and
you know the flavor profiles for those wines. And then

(02:08:53):
also on this wine typically is you've got this kind
of brambly black blue, kind of purple fruited care mixed
with my biggest marker besides like like almost a chewy meatiness,
but my biggest marker for both that place and then
this style of wine is typically white pepper versus like
coarse black pepper, So it has like a which anyone

(02:09:14):
that cooks a lot of what there's a difference between
course of black pepper and then powder each pepper and
and that soft note of white pepper always takes me
to not only those particular particular particular varieties, but also
a particular region too, so it helps you kind of
narrow it down. And like I, you know, I like
to talk to or envision like an old timey switchboard operator.

(02:09:36):
That's usually my thing. So like when I when I
am describing how people can make those connections in their brains.
It's very similar to that. So learning how to taste
wine describe wine aptly is very much experiential. And the
more of those dots that you connect. So again, like
to the switchboard kind of thing, imagine you're you know,
I know that maybe for gen Z this doesn't track, but.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
You know it does, right, But my audience understands where
you're right.

Speaker 12 (02:10:00):
Yeah, But I mean, you know, if you're the switchboard
operator and the call comes in like, hey, I want
to talk to banana, it's like, okay, well I know
exactly where that goes because you know, I recognize the voice. Right,
We've all had bananas a million times. Sure, if you
close your eyes and I gave you a banana, you'd
be like, there's no doubt that this is banana. Well,
if you extrapolate that out across you know, all these
different types of fruits, flavors, and then conditions. So for example,

(02:10:24):
like overripe banana, green banana, those have very different flavors
and textures, right, yeah, So apply that to the entire world,
which is billions and billions and billions of different you know,
flavors and whatnot. You know, you can you can build
this switchboard of like you recognize very rapidly the voices
when they call.

Speaker 1 (02:10:42):
If that makes so, you're basically saying, we should just
keep drinking more and more line until we finally can
connect our switchboard to break this up, until the light
bulb goes on and while you're drinking.

Speaker 13 (02:10:54):
The other fun fact is that when you're picking up
all these flavors, you're not picking up analogs of those flavors,
the esters and flavor combinations that are present in a berry,
a grape berry, regardless whatever varietal it is. It's the
same chemical compounds that make say, strawberry tastes like strawberry,

(02:11:16):
or banana tastes like banana. It's not reminiscent of those things.
It literally is those things.

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
Gotcha or snosberry tastes. No excell Willie Walker fans out there.
Eight forty seven will continue with Thomas Woodley and Keegan
Corkoran ignitionwines dot Com where you find kee Gonna be
right back in the morning. We have breaking news, comedy,
rc the Talk Station fifty two fifty five RCD Talk Station,

(02:11:45):
A little PGA there for you as a close out
the morning show Here on a beautiful Friday Eve with
Keegan Corcoran from Ignition Wines online at Ignitionwines dot com
wholesale distributor if you are interested in wholesale purchases. He
is the man, and Thomas Woodley from Lidian Wines says,
outside of Seattle, washing in with some amazing wines they
brought in today. Drown your sorrows or celebrate. Either way
you go, You've got outstanding options. These options that we're

(02:12:06):
dealing with today, the Avennia Justine, the Lydian sbs, and
finally the Avenia. Gravlora not Guevara, the don't tell me that, Tom,
it's not. It's it's a political, a political grav Lora
where the name come from. This is another red wine,
but it is remarkably different in taste than the other one,

(02:12:27):
even though I'm not allowed to taste it. Yeah, So
it's so.

Speaker 13 (02:12:30):
Grava is a tribute to the Grove region of Bordeaux.
So just just south of the left Bank, there's an
area if you look on a map called Grove and
it's gravelly soil. But it's a place where Cabernet Sauvignon
and Merlau play as kind of equal partners.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
Oh and look, it's Cabernet Sauvignon, Merleau and Cabernet franc
so perfect name.

Speaker 13 (02:12:53):
Yeah. So it's a it's a like quintessential Washington State
Bordo blend.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
Right, and if I was allowed to drink it, I
would think this will be drier than the last one
we had, which was also a red blend. Correct, Yeah,
what are you Hpathetically? I think every time we think
of a cabernet tasting wine, which probably this is leaning
it because it has a predominantly cabernet great land, I
always think of red meat rich, like holiday feast type food.

Speaker 13 (02:13:24):
Oh, this is both the Justine and the Griver exceptional
holiday wines. I mean they whether you're doing turkey for
Thanksgiving or you're going to get into a you know,
standing rib roast type scenario for Christmas time, it'll it'll
absolutely play well with both.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
Okay, and note comments on this one. Hegan it's delicious.

Speaker 11 (02:13:46):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
That's what you expect to sell to say it's delicious. No,
you know it's a supertentious wine.

Speaker 12 (02:13:53):
Yeah, I you know, this is uh it's the fruit
I think is softer. It has a nice mix of
like red and black fruit. But the nice thing that
I think are the the one of the main attributes
that have attracted or has attracted me to this winery
and this wine making team and the style of wines
that they do is they're not to hang out with. Well, yeah,

(02:14:16):
that first and foremost, but it's you know, they're there
are wines that are they're not overt they don't just
you know, hit you over the head with flavor by
way of like you know, that's you're only getting one thing.

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
There's a lot of like wines. You can pull the
shelf food not overwhelming exactly. I mean you can.

Speaker 12 (02:14:32):
There's a lot of wines on the shelf that certainly
have their stylistic you know the places, but so you
can you can pull something off the shelf sometimes and
you and you drink and say, man, all I get
is this one thing and it's just like it's right
in the middle of the stage, that kind of thing,
and that's the only thing I can focus on no
matter what I'm eating with it. But these are very
complimentary to to food.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
All right. Other than eno restaurants where these are all served.
Where else can people get them? If they want to
buy in bulk, they go through you in Egnis short.

Speaker 12 (02:14:59):
But yeah, country Fresh jungle gyms certainly, Yeah, they're they're
they're kind of all over the place.

Speaker 1 (02:15:07):
You're not going to experience the price point. I'm going
to ask you, but at a jungle gyms where these
might be available, what are the price points the range
for the wines that we've had here today in front of.

Speaker 12 (02:15:17):
It, so retail, you know, talking high teens to you know,
the Grivera would be closer to fifty Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
Okay, you know, well still within the realm of affordability.
From my standpoint, I agree a lot cheaper than something
will be imported from France, which are subject to tariffs.
I didn't get around to that, but right, that's what
does that increase the price for what was the tariff
on the like a Bordeaux.

Speaker 12 (02:15:41):
Or well, so I have I have a palette of
a Spanish wine that just landed, and so now I'm
looking at you know, the ten percent and that's and
you know it's but added on to especially for a
small distributor like myself, that that's that impacts my business
in a massive way. But then also, you know Thomas
is in Washington and the business with Canada significant. You
can speak to this better than.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
At a time. Sorry, I don't. Joe's already give me
the hairy eyeball. That's why I'm sorry for waiting so
long to ask the terriff question. King Cork in edition
of wines dot Com. Thomas Woodley, It's been a real
pleasure having you in studio. Man, you do some great
work out there.

Speaker 13 (02:16:14):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
Sounding a great crew too, We're good eggs. I'm gonna
change my careers, I think based upon what you said
about that place eight fifty seven. Jank you. Joe Strecker
second