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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
You will.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Is a leducation. What the house summon it up quite well?
J Just Jrecker, Executive producer Brian Thomas right here reeling
from the assassination of Charlie Kirk yesterday, like everybody else.
Violence has no place in this society. Coming up on
the fifty five Kars Morning Show and I welcome your college.

(00:47):
You got a reaction to it. You have some sense
of the direction we're going in this country. You have it,
maybe a solution. We'll call it. Open Line Thursday five
one three, seven, five, one hundred, eight hundred and eighty
two to three, Talk count five fifty on eight and
t phones. Terrible circumstances lead to positive things. A special

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edition of Jack Avian in Big Picture of Jack Aden
at volume two. For this week, he's going to join
the program at six thirty, of course to talk about
Charlie Kirk, but also George Washington. That's gonna be an
interesting discussion with Jack Adadan Coming up at six thirty.
Congressman Davidson Warren Davidson return to the program seven oh five,
He too, will talk about Charlie Kirk and the violence

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that seems to be directed mostly at conservatives. He'll talk
about nine to eleven. Is the anniversary of nine to eleven,
can overlook that. I remember vividly the moment I heard
about what happened and what happened in his town hall
meeting last week. We'll learn about that from Congressman Davidson
again seven oh five. Alex Trantefilo, head of the Higo
Republican Party, also joined the program at seven twenty to

(01:51):
discuss his reactions about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Charles Tassel, he'll
be instudied or talk about a street rescue program he's
got going on, as well as congratulate relations. Charles Tassel.
He's got a new position with the Trump administration and
we'll hear from Charles about that. And he's with the
USDA now, so it's good for him, in a nice

(02:14):
position for him. And again, this street rescue event planned
for gun violence production in the city of Cincinnati, appropriately
timed it is. It's going to be joined by a
couple of folks and of course getting guns off the
street and out of the hands of teenagers. Most notably
a noble goal. So we'll hear from him at seveno thirty,
after which we'll hear from Congressman David Taylor. David Taylor

(02:35):
returns to the fifty five Krose Morriny Show, also of course,
about Charlie Kirk violence, nine to eleven anniversary and a
child Interstate Abortion Notification Act. It's called Connor's Law. Connors
and Taylor on that eight, followed by of course it's Thursday.
Can't get away from my heart. Media aviation expert Jay Rattluff,
even though he volunteered to give up his time to

(02:57):
the extent we want to continue focusing on Charlie Kirk,
noble and decent human being. Jay Rattle with is, but
I've got quite a few things go over him with him,
including it being the anniversary of nine to eleven. Are
we safer now than we were then? I'd like to
think so. Hope Spring's eternal. And thanks to everybody he

(03:18):
made it to the honor flight closing our ceremony last night,
the welcome home ceremony at CVEG. Thank you to my
submarine or friend Mike Gurbage. Mike on this playing game
with yesterday at listener lunch and thanks everybody you made
to listener lunch. Fun time we had at Anderson Bubbleist.
I had fun. Michael posted a whole bunch of pictures
from the welcome home ceremony. It looks like everyone had

(03:40):
a great time. Huge turnout, and he said, I think
it was two thousand folks roughly. He just sent me
a Facebook message. Two hundred on the plane and close
to two thousand people at the welcome home. He said,
it proves there are more good people than a handful
of evil in our world. Nation City. Amen, Mike, good

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for you finding some note of positivity in these terrible
times in which we find ourselves. Let's go to the
phones right now. I got Alan on the line. Alan,
thanks for calling. This morning a somber morning.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
It is, yes, Brian, it is.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
And it was a pretty sleepless night for me as
I had family gathers last night. A friend was there
that was struggling. He's a huge you know, Kirk fan,
and just the anger is powerful. Yeah, and they're ready
to take up arms, and.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I don't know what to say, isaaid.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Jesus asked us to pray for those to persecute us
and we and they said they're tired of praying. And
I feel it too. There's a lot of anger, and
they just keep shooting us, and we just keep praying,
and I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I understand it's a frustrating moment in time, isn't it,
Because there's no sense that can be made of this
kind of violence. You know, I can draw a parallel
to hate speech. When you start calling people names, you've
lost to debate. When you start shooting people because you
disagree with them, you obviously can't speak back to them
and offer alternatives to solutions or alternative suggestions to what

(05:21):
somebody like Charlie Kirk is suggesting. He was great about that.
That was the thing that really came through with everybody
who interacted with Charlie Kirk. He was open for discussion
and debate. He would take all comers ask me hard questions.
He invited it regularly. He was not afraid to debate,
known for it, and became prominent because of it. The

(05:42):
guy was only thirty one years old. Look what he
was able to accomplish in such a short stretch of time.
Turning Point USAY a powerful organization. It's directed to young
people trying to get them to embrace a godly life
and a conservative life and a better path for their
own existence. I mean, a noble guy and they hate
and the rhetoric that came out in the aftermath of

(06:03):
him being shot, people gleeful about it. Alan, I don't
know what to say, man. I think we're all experiencing
a moment of frustration here, and I hope things don't
go off the rails, if you know what I mean,
because a lot of people are inviting that. A lot
of people want that. I mean, you go back to
Charlie Manson. What did he want by killing the people
that he killed? He wanted to start a race war.

(06:23):
I mean, there are people out there that really are
inviting this kind of thing. So, Alan, I.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Would agree, that's what that's I think that's what they want.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
That's what I was telling.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think that's what they want. They want us to
lash out.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, they do. I really firmly believe that chaos and
anarchy in the streets. Maybe they're hoping that'll bring about
this revolution that they're looking for, getting rid of our
constitution and putting back in place, or putting in place
something better, something socialist. Something communist for each accordion's ability
to each according to his need. I don't know what
the hell they want, but murder is, I suppose, can

(07:05):
be viewed as an active ultimate desperation. Donald Trump won
the popular election. Donald Trump's policies and what his platform
was one it predominated and they can't take it. They're
on the losing side of the equation. The voters revealed that.

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And you're in that level of desperation. What do you do?
They think it's I suppose appropriate to kill somebody, and
I have to address this. I saw this quite a
few places, and again, feel free to call. I'm trying
to make as much sense of this as everybody else.
But I saw somebody assert and I own, as my

(07:52):
listening audience knows, I own many firearms, and I've been
to the range a lot. For the assertions that this
was some sort of marksman. This is a trained government operative.
There's no way anybody who is in the novice realm
of shooting could shoot someone from two hundred yards away

(08:13):
without it's like thousands of hours or something. I saw
one person say this, you know, this is military training.
This is someone who's been a highly trained marksman. No, no, Now,
I don't know who this murderer was. They haven't found
him yet, and I can only pray to God that
they locate this guy or girl. But it wouldn't surprise me.

(08:35):
This person is not some trained, highly experienced marksman type.
Shooting a target with a rifle at two hundred yards
is not difficult. It is not difficult. I don't think
Joe Strekker, have you ever fired a rifle. I think
we've talked about this before. You haven't had yet. As
I said, I wanted to get Joe on the range

(08:56):
sometime because I guarantee you Joe Strekker has never squeezed
a trigger on a rifle could hit two hundred yards
in just a couple of hours sitting there. Familiarity with
the rifle, getting over the idea that it's going to
have a little teeny bit of recoil, You can overcome
that in moments time. You're like, oh, this is nothing
I'm going to talk about, like, for example, an art
style rifle two T three five five six, but just

(09:17):
zero recoil. So once you realize that you're over you
overcome that. You know that trigger, the jerkiness that you
might experience. After a few rounds, you're like, Okay, I
can handle this, and then you know, if you have
especially have a scope, an optic two hundred yards is nothing. Now,
you're not going to get a real tight group when
you're a novice, But it does not require a skilled

(09:40):
marksman to hit something in that distance. So throw that
speculation out the window, at least as of right now.
I'll wait and see who it is. And again I
can only pray to God they actually get the person
who squeezed off this round. But in the final analysis,
Charlie Kirk's not coming back, and we're left to deal
with the reality of the police violence that is escalating,

(10:02):
undeniably escalating, and I think statistically no one can argue
that it isn't predominantly coming from the left. Five point fifteen.
Jay's on the line. Hang on, Jay, I take your call.
Just a second. Gota take quick break. Here'll be right back.

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one to you. Try to make it happy anyway in
spite of the heartache we're all feeling of the death
of Charlie Kirk five on three seven four nine, fifty
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death of the thousands of people at nine to eleven
anniversary today Julie hang on Jay's first Jay, thanks for
holding over the break there, Welcome to the morning show.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Hey, good morning, Brian.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
In the light of the tragedy with Charlie Kirk, I
think the one thing that maybe we can focus on
that's positive is what did Charlie Kirk show all of
us a guy that came out of nowhere. We're very young,
and he found ran an experiment and found that there
is ten up demand, huge pent up demand on college

(11:27):
campuses for somebody who can go in and explain what
does the Bible say, what are conservative values, what are
the principles of the founders? And by doing so drew
humongous crowds and become a very powerful speaker at a

(11:47):
very young age. And if there's one thing I think
that we can all kind of reflect on and perhaps
honor him with, is recognize what he did and why
can't so why can't we all? There never will probably
never be another Charlie Kirk, but we can all speak

(12:09):
up and we can all carry that that that that
truth that he had and recognize that darkness always hates
light and that's been the way of the world since
the fall of the Garden of Eden. I'm a Christian
and I believe that this world that the Bible doesn't
say it doesn't end in happily ever after. The Bible
says that this world is Satan's world, the father of lies,

(12:32):
the father of darkness, the father of violence. And we
as Christians are here for one reason, which is to
take the Gospel, the truth throughout the world.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
And I think Charlie Kirk did that.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
And if you want to see what the price of
free speeches, you know they don't teach it in school.
We learn about this idea free speech and the Constitution,
and we learn it, we regurgitate it back on a
piece of paper, and we move on to the next thing.
In pacifics class if they still teach it, we just
learned the price of free speech. Just a stark reminder
of what it's worth and and why it's there, and

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and the the the other side hates it, and and
the decide to what I'll call the communists.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
They hate it.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
History shows that, and they hate it so bad that
they would they will murder for it.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Uh, isn't that effectively how Jesus ended up on the cross.

Speaker 9 (13:26):
Jane exactly?

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Speaking the truth?

Speaker 10 (13:30):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (13:31):
Uh in this fallen world will get you killed because
the powers of darkness can't stand it. They understand the
the power in it. And Charlie Kirk had a lot
of power by doing something very simple that we can
all replicate. Speak the truth, uphold your values, don't stay silent,

(13:52):
push back and uh and and take the Gospel throughout
the earth, which is the last thing Jesus asked.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (13:59):
The great mission before he ascended into heaven was take
the Gospel throughout the world.

Speaker 9 (14:04):
Now, Charlie did that, and I guess.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
In a in a political framework, but his politics and
his Christianity and it's all and being a follower of
Christ all aligned. So don't you think you Jesus also said, Hey,
they hated me, They're going to hate you, so so
don't We shouldn't be surprised whenever we see this kind
of hatred coming from the world and those in it.

(14:29):
But what we can do is all be beacons of light.
Like Charlie Kirk was. Again, there won't ever be another
Charlie Kirk, but a young guy coming out of nowhere,
thirty years old, thirty one years old what he accomplished,
So the rest of.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Us being silent, there you go.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Sure, yeah, and don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 10 (14:48):
Have a good day, Bra.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Thank you, Ja, I appreciate your words. Let's see what
Julie's got this morning. Julie, thank you so much for calling.
Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 11 (14:55):
Hey morning, Brian. Yeah, when I call it, I usually
don't call it, but honestly, I cannot sleep, and I
guess maybe I needed to hear the message from the
prior caller because I am not only did I cry,
but I am out of my mind furious. I literally
have been shaking since last night.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
This is making me.

Speaker 11 (15:16):
You know, I consider myself to be a Kurshman Kirston.
I'm a faithful person, Brian. I hate the person that
I'm becoming because of what is going on, because I
am so angry. I'm feeling more angry than even love
for Charlie at this point.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I'm so angry.

Speaker 11 (15:33):
It's like I tuned in last night.

Speaker 12 (15:35):
I've tried to.

Speaker 11 (15:35):
Get off from Facebook for several months just because I
get so angry at what I see that they're saying,
and just the vitriol on the left, but the rhetoric
that I'm hearing, even on mainstream media and MSNBCE, some
of the guests and anchors blamingness on Donald Trump's rhetoric. Yes,
are they kidding? I mean we've seen members of Congress
get up and call for violence, like Maxine Waters back

(15:57):
in the day, Corey Booker. You see several members and
I can't and think right now because I'm so darn mad.
But you know, we've heard it all from them. You know,
they're becoming a murderous cult, and they're advocate advocating for this,
you know, calling that, you know, saying that we're you know,
we have you know we're viewing vitriol on the right,
and I just I'm amazed at what I'm hearing. They

(16:18):
have become a murderous cult, and I mean it's coming
from high up. Yeah, what what they're calling for and
the things that they say about the people on the right,
and they're causing it, They're causing the hatred, they're causing
people who want to kill other people. Obviously there's a
bunch of unhinged people out there. And whether this it's
a professional hit, we really don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah. Well, I mean, in the final analysis, it doesn't
matter whether it was professional or not. Obviously, I think
we can all conclude safely right now that it was
politically motivated. I mean, who is Charlie Kirk other than
someone who was an outstanding voice in politics, of course
conservative politics, and we presume that that's why he was hit.
Other than that, who's a thirty one year old father

(16:58):
of two. I mean, he didn't anybody, I don't. I
can't imagine you had any enemies other than political enemies.
But I'll tell you what, Well, your comments and your
obvious the pain I hear in your voice, Julie, and
your out loud statement that this is really has angered you.
You're upset. It just reminded me of myne of my
favorite quotes from Milan Candero said, authors be brilliant hate

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traps us by binding us too tightly to our adversary.
So I only say that to you, Julie, because I
don't want you to have your life ruined because of
what other people are saying. They're violence, their anger, their vitriol,
they're they're ridiculous comments, just just completely uncalled for and ridiculous.
I mean, you can only frame it that way, don't

(17:44):
that bother These people are clearly revealing themselves to be
I just I'll sum it up as backcrap, insane. You
can see it for what it is. And they don't
represent the vast majority of people in this country. I
assure you of that. Charlie Kirk represented what I would
say is probably a far vaster group of people in
this country than any of these crazy leftists screaming about

(18:05):
how he deserved to die. So try to keep the
faith and try to keep your chin up. And maybe
the thing that comes out of this is we have
in Charlie Kirk, a martyr for sanity, for the cause
for logic, for reason, for informed debate, for the exchange
of ideas, the healthy, non violent exchange of ideas. That's

(18:27):
what he stood for. And maybe in his death we'll
all remember him for that and take that message and
what he lived for and reach out to other people
and try to spread that message much in the same
way Jay he believes it's spreading the message of Christ
is important. Maybe spreading the message Charlie Kirk engaged in,
which is healthy, informed, non violent debate. We need more

(18:48):
of that right now. And his message was coming through
loud and clear among the young people on these college
campuses that he spoke with. Hang in there, Julie. I
appreciate your passion, I really do. I just don't want
your life to be ruined over what these crazy people
are saying and doing. Five twenty seven, fifty five KSD
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(19:12):
a challenge are coming and have to tackle topics like
this because I don't have an answer. I don't know
that anybody does. Maybe you do offer it here on
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and eighty two to three talk found five to fifty
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murder of Charlie Kirk yesterday. And here's another one for you.
Speaking of quotes, before I get to Tom Sore and
Kurek guard existentialist, philosopher writer, the tyrant dies and his
rule is over. The martyr dies and his rule begins.

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M something to think about, Tom. Welcome to the Morning show.
Happy Well Thursday to Thursday.

Speaker 13 (20:02):
It's Thursday, and on a day that we normally, unfortunately
we would be remembering another heinous act where we're reeling
from a one from yesterday. Just said, Jay nailed it
as usual, and uh, I like, I like a lot

(20:24):
of Julie's uh input as well. We we deal with
we deal with this, Uh, whatever battle we're in on
the the level of a republican versus democrat, or conservative
versus liberal and on on on some levels on the
surface it is, but down at the bottom of this

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it's good versus evil, and it's pretty obvious which side
is which when you come up to the surface. We
got some flawed, knuckleheaded human beings that are on Uh
you could call him on the good side, that are
you Republicans conservatives that lean on that side, and then

(21:08):
you have some very very hateful people you want you know,
I've brought this up before a lot of liberals. If
you just disagree with him, that that's hate speech. You know,
you have that idiot Matthew Dowd that got fired. Thank
God for even suggesting that anything that Charlie Kirk had
to say contributed to I mean, I will yeah, it's

(21:31):
not hate speech. What you're hearing from the left is
hate speech. All that crap that that they are saying
and how they're talking about people is hate speech. Charlie
Kirk did not utter any hate speech. What he uttered
was the truth. And and as Jay pointed out, and uh,
the you know, darkness cannot handle light, evil cannot handle good.

(21:55):
Lies cannot handle the truth. But we have to keep
speaking the truth. We cannot stop saying things that are
the truth in opposition to what are obvious lies. Evil
brings people in to support to support it by lying
to them and deceiving them, and good is like, here's
the truth. And that clip that Joe has played now

(22:18):
twice of Charlie Kirk saying that no matter what the cost,
that's what it's all about people, no matter what the cost,
And you may lose a friend, you may lose a job.
Charlie Kirk lost his life, and his family lost their
their husband and father, and his friends lost a friend,
and the cause lost an awesome soldier that was willing

(22:40):
to put himself out there to speak the truth. And
that is our example. Speak the truth, tell people what
they need to hear. Let them react how they're going
to react, that's up to them. But we need to
make sure that we stay visualing, don't stop, don't stop
telling the truth. And for God say, you know, I say,
don't vote Denmark. Why do I say that? Because when

(23:02):
we get Democrats a position to power, we allow evil
to fester, we allow it to come up to the surface.
We put people in charge who espouse these these horrible ideas,
and we have to stop doing that. We got to
stop giving giving the wrong people any kind of control. Please, people,

(23:23):
don't vote Democrat. Have a as good of a day.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
As qualifications recognized. I appreciate that, man, I really do. Yeah,
I can just go ahead and get tell you what
Matthew dot MSNBC the what huh they're still around, Matthew Dowd.
He got fired for it, and I applaud MSNBC for
coming out and saying we apologize and we fired him
because of his insensitivity. If I could be so delicate,

(23:50):
But his comment is illustrative of so many comments that
are going around on the internet with regard to Charlie
Kirk's assassination. Now, before it was known that Kirk died,
Dowd on MSNBC, we don't know any of the full
details of this yet. We don't know if this was
a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration. Uh okay,

(24:13):
maybe backpedaling slightly from my comments about it is not
a difficult shot with a rifle to shoot something at
two hundred yards. A random gunfire from a celebratory supporter
of Charlie Kirk ain't gonna squeeze that shot off Dowd.
But the more critical comment of the reason that got
him fired. He referred to Kirk as, in Dowd's words, quote,

(24:34):
one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in
this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of
hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And
I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words,
which then lead to hateful actions. I think that's the
environment we're in that the people does you can't stop

(24:55):
with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then
saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to
take place. And that's the unfortunate environment we're in. So
Charlie Kirk uttering awful words now, that would be Charlie
Kirk sitting down in the front of a room filled
with people of different political ideologies and different political thoughts
exchanging in ideas. He's making his conservative argument and giving

(25:16):
the opportunity to others in the room to make their
liberal argument or maybe join in the courus of his
conservative argument. Say yay, Charlie, you're right. But in all
these comments about how Charlie Kirk is fomenting hate speech
and he deserved what he got for the words of
the uttered, I defy you to go out into the
world and find something Charlie Kirk said that you really

(25:38):
truly could characterize his hate speech. You're not going to
find it. Five point thirty six fifty five care see
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and I understand his reluctance. Under the circumstances, we'll figure

(25:59):
out something between now. On the top of the air news.
I prefer hearing from you if you've got some sort
of thought or analysis on this situation we're facing in
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Keep wanting to say Happy Thursday or Happy Friday Eve.
Not feeling real happy this morning under the circumstances, and
I think everybody can understand that we're going to go
to the phones right now. Five one, three, seven, four
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three Talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Les,
thank you so much for calling this morning. Welcome to
the program.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Thanks. I just have a quick comment on the Charlie
Kirk murder. And everybody who's asking a lot I hear,
is why is this happening? Why did this happen to such,
you know, a great guy.

Speaker 14 (26:51):
Matthew ten twenty one through twenty two says, brother will
betray brother to death.

Speaker 15 (26:58):
You will be hated by everyone because of me. But
the ones who stands firm to the end will be saved. Now,
obviously Charlie Kirk lost his life because of what he
stood for.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
But what that verse says is that he would be saved,
and he is saved because now he's at the foot
of the throne of our Father. We thank God for
that process. That's that's you want to know.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Those that a company you want to go from faith,
the the they're not afraid of death or the afterlife.
They can embrace it because they feel they know they
are going to be saved and they're going to be
embraced and it's something positive to look forward to. So
in death there is some positivity that comes from faith.

Speaker 14 (27:48):
So you but but but this is a written way,
you know, this is this is in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, And if you want to.

Speaker 14 (27:57):
Know why we're in the times we're in right now,
I encourage everyone today just pick up a Bible and read.

Speaker 15 (28:04):
Matthew twenty four and it explains it.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's all I've got to say.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Less has given us all a reading assignment today. Appreciated
Less I do. I can just continue on this theme.
I saw Miranda DeWine at New York Post offered a
I think a rather thoughtful, insightful column on this topic
this morning. So rather than a stack of stupid in
a nod to Joe Strecker, Branda Devine Wrights, we're suffering

(28:31):
through an epidemic of leftist violence. The ruthless assassination of
Conservative youth leader Charlie Kirk, thirty one years old at
a crowded campus event in Utah the latest manifestation of
the hateful rhetoric aimed at President Trump in the MAGA movement.
It's a sad irony. The kirk shockingly public murder happened
the day before the trial begins of Ryan Ruth, one
of the alleged assassins who try to kill Donald Trump

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in the twenty twenty four campaign. Pression has always Kirk
understood the consequences of escalating violent rhetoric of left as
he and Trump kept winning the hearts and minds of
a new generation, especially young men with logic and common sense.
He tweeted two months ago, Charlie Kirk did assassination culture
is spreading on the left. Forty eight percent of liberals

(29:15):
say it wouldn't it would be at least somewhat justified
to murder Elon Musk. Fifty five percent said the same
thing about Donald Trump. The left is being whipped into
a violent frenzy, and he set back whether losing an
election or losing a court case justifies a maximally violent
response close quote. Contrary to the narrative published by left

(29:36):
wing media and fanned by Joe Biden his administration, the
political violence is almost exclusively from the left, setting the
scene the deadly b LM antiphile riots that engulf the
country in the summer of twenty twenty, which were tacitly
encouraged by Democrats like Kamala Harris and Tim Walls as
a way to destabilize then President Trump and then project
their own culpability and motivations onto the January sixth Capitol

(29:57):
riot by Trump supporters one afternoon, and then, of course
President Trump was a target of two assassination attempts last year,
including almost having his head blown off, but miraculously tilting
his set at the right moment for the bullet to
nick his ear instead. It was also an arson in
vandalism against Tesla Dealership to intimidate Elon Musk and punish
him for supporting Trump. A few months ago, Israeli Emblicy

(30:20):
staffers Juron Liczinsky and fiancee Sarah Lynn Milgram assassinated by
a Palestinian activist outside the Capitol Jewish Museum in Washington.
United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson or assassinated December of last
year by a wealthy leftist spouting left wing critiques of
corporate greed and health care inequities. It was the assassination

(30:40):
attempt of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh at his Maryland
home by a deranged abortion activists, and of course, the
leftist who shot up the Republicans at a congressional baseball
practice in Virginia in twenty seventeen. Even the arson attack
in the home of Pennsylvania Democrat Josh Shapiro, which punned
its like Jake Tapper try to cite as an example
a bipartisan targets was perpetrated by a left wing prohamas

(31:02):
anti Israeli activist Charlie Kirk's answer was civil discourse. Contrary
to the lies spread by MSNBC and CNN on the
date of his death, he was not a divisive figure
and he did not engage in hate speech. He reached
across the island and engage young people respectfully in dialogue.
He was never personal or nasty. He was courteous and civilized.

(31:26):
He was kind and patient. He would tour universities under
the banner prove me wrong, encouraging students to challenge him
with any question. He put forward his views calmly and
with a smile. Capitalism is better than socialism, there are
only two sexes, and was happy and courageous enough to
debate anybody in good faith. This is why he won

(31:46):
the hearts and minds on campuses and galvanized the generation.
It's what made him such a potent political figure, helping
Trump win in twenty twenty four. It's why his political
opponents had to lie that he was a hateful and
divisive guy. It's precisely because he he was neither of
those that young people listened to him. He was not
afraid to be plain, spoke, and he didn't sugarcoat uncomfortable facts.

(32:07):
He told the ugly truth that Americans tries to bury
the projective father and husband, particularly exercised by the random
stabbing murder of twenty three year old Ukrainian refugee Rhina
Tuska on that light rail car in Charlotte. In one
of his last tweets, he wrote, quote, if we want
things to change, it's one hundred percent necessary to politicize

(32:29):
the senseless murder of Rehenya's Tuska because it was politics
that allowed a savage monster with fourteen priors to be
free on the streets to kill her. Is one of
the coldest, most senseless murders I've ever seen. He said
in an interview. This whole criminal justice reform stuff has
been a complete failure. He knew that the lies Democrats

(32:50):
id media told about George Floyd's death in twenty twenty
are what got her killed. The lies what drove disasters
criminal justice reforms like cash bell and emptying prisons. These
were predicated on systematic or systemic racism, a non existent
problem designed to drive a wedge between black and white Americans.
Kirk called out that rancid devisively for what it is.
He held up a mirror to Democrats and made them

(33:11):
see themselves as they are the party of projection, accusing
others of what's in their own hearts. When Representative Lauren
Bobert proposed a prayer for Kirk on the House floor
yesterday afternoon, a dozen Democrats protested, you could hear them
shout no and pass some gun laws. America will never
be the same, Kirk wrote Tuesday night in his final

(33:34):
tweet about Arena. It was a company by a photo
of the young woman just after she was stabbed, wide
eyed and terrified in shock as she looked around at
her killer hand to mouthed Neil's, and he's pulled up
at a fetal position before she slumped to the floor
and bled out. Kirk wasn't to know the twelve hours
and thirty five minutes after he wrote those words he
would join her in death. No, America will never be

(33:57):
the same. But Kirk's death, like his life's work, is
a turning point. Look what he accomplished in thirty one years.
Imagine what he might have gone on to do in
his short life. He formed a future generation of leaders
who see the world as he did, clearly, logically, with
reason tempered by compassion, and with the faith in Jesus Christ.

(34:20):
In death, he may yet accomplish more than he already has.
I'm thinking about that Caure Career Guard quote. His mode
was to be strong, brave and resolute. Live your values,
get married, have children, make the world a better place
with courage and grace for your fellow man. That's his legacy,
and it's up to all Americans of goodwill to take

(34:41):
up his mission well, stated Miranda Divine, Washington Post Dayline.
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do your reaction to the assassination? And Charlie Kirk obviously
reeling from that. Such an amazing young man and accomplished
so much in his short thirty one year life. Father
a too dedicated husband, Christian man, devout, devout Christian tried

(37:48):
to spread that message, but also the conservative message, and
he did so in a thoughtful, contemplative open forum, regularly
inviting those who disagreed with him to join in the
fund and engage in political discourse. That's exactly what we
need this country, political discourse or violence. And obviously, in
this particular case, I think we can all safely assume.
I think he used the word assume, and I know

(38:08):
what that means. But what other reason the political motivation
could it be here? I think most everyone is concluding
that this was a politically motivated murder. I mean to
look at Charlie Kirk as anything other than a political figure.
Other than that, what was he just a guy, a
random guy, but he did make a big name for

(38:30):
himself for a short period of time and well connected.
He was on the politicians coming out of the woodwork.
Donald Trump knew him, helped Donald trumpet win the election.
Spreading the conservative message among young people, notably men, made
a lot of inroads with men advocated family, advocated faith,

(38:51):
conservative principles, and someone in spite of the fact that
he had just a flawless record along those lines, he
was not a spewer of venomous hate. Yet it was
this year the Southern Poverty Law Center put Charlie Kirk
and his Turning Point USA organization on what they call

(39:12):
its hate map, accusing Kirk of embracing white nationalists, conspiracy
theory theories, and celebrating Trump's plan to deport illegal immigrants
in promoting gun ownership quote. Over the last several years,
the political right has increasingly shifted toward an authoritarian, patriarchal
Christian supremacy dedicated to eroding the value of inclusive democracy

(39:34):
and public institutions. The political right in the US has
embraced aggressive state and federal power to enforce a social
order rooted in white supremacy. Turning Point USA and its
growing influence on conservative politics is emblematic of this current state.
Close quote Southern Poverty Law Center, What a pack of lize?

(39:56):
What an outright pack of lize? Any of those similar
comments E could among the left wing circles on social
media X, Twitter, wherever else they're posting, and of course
all around Facebook, almost celebrating that this man was murdered,
and in some cases outright selling, not just almost celebrating,

(40:17):
outright celebrating, and I pivot over to something going on California,
and you know, even Trump identified this was it was
only like in July, Trump blamed the leftist rhetoric on
this huge increase in attacks on Immigrations and Customs enforcement agents.
They're carrying out their job, and yet they're constantly the

(40:39):
subject of radical leftist violence. The frozen water bottles and
the fireworks and the the you know, all the stories
we've been talking about annown since Donald Trump got elected
and cracked down on immigration. And so I pivot over
to California, where the California State Assembly just passed a bill.

(41:00):
It was a Tuesday aimed at federal Immigrations and Customs
Enforcement ICE SB six twenty seven would make it a
crime for a law enforcement officer to wear a facial
covering in the performance of their duties, and they specifically
identified federal officers, although the state probably doesn't have any

(41:21):
jurisdiction over what the federal officers can and cannot wear.
The bill will define law enforcement agency for these purposes
as any entity of the city, community, or other local
agency that employs anyone designated by California law as a
peace officer, any federal law enforcement agency, or any law
enforcement agency from another state. Although they carved out their
own law enforcement the bill specifically excludes state police like

(41:43):
the California Highway Patrol. I guess they can mask up.
They're the ones that happen to be providing protection to
Kamala Harris and Governor Gavin Newsom, so they can mask up.
But is not that bill clearly aimed at ice officers.
The state's the routine use of facial covering law enforcement
officers has significant implications for public perception, officer community interactions,

(42:08):
and accountability, pointing out that masks should not obscure officer
identity or hinder accountability. They claim masks are an American
but Why is ICE squaring masks? Why have our members
of Congress asked for additional money for their own personal security?

(42:33):
They're concerned about these packs of violent leftists, who will
of course identify these people given artificial intelligence and facial
recognition software and all the technology that's right in every
single one of our fingertips. They take a picture of
the ICE officer and in order to do harm to
that I officer and dos them or otherwise maybe engage
in a swatting activity calling out members of their family,

(42:56):
making them live in fear and worry and concern because
they're they're exercising their right to work and doing their
damn job. And is this not a sign of encouragement
from the elected Democrat officials. I don't know how you

(43:18):
can read through this public perception. Huh. Don't they have
any concern about the ICE officers, their personalized being disrupted,
their family members being threatened, Maybe actual violence might be
meeted out upon them, unless, of course, they wear a
mask and can keep their facial identity secret and away

(43:39):
from the public, so you can engage in these activities
and they can continue to go about their jobs without
fear of well maybe even murder, as demonstrated yesterday by
the murder of Charlie Kirk. It's a genuine issue for
these folks, But I can't view this legislation as anything
other than encouraging people to engage in the activity which

(44:00):
horses the ice officers to have to don a mask.
I think I'd rather do my job without one. I'm
sure the ice officers probably feel the same way. A
little less comfortable wearing a mask. Could be easier to
go around doing my day to day operations if I
didn't have to wear one, But I gotta wear one
because the leftists are out there encouraging people to engage
in activity which might harm me or my wife, or
my children, or my husband as the case. Maybe this

(44:24):
is just I just perceive this as egging that activity on.
We hear you out there, residents of the state of California.
We're gonna give you the option. We'll unmask these evil
law enforcement officers. We'll take them and we'll put them online.
You don't expect violence to come from something like that.

(44:47):
And I think of all of the post Trump elects
like that. After the first election, most notably, it came
completely ungluded when Trump got elected. I remember all the violent,
violent tweets, the ones suggesting murder, the videos of you know,
fake attacks on Trump, fake assassination attempts, the decapitated head
of Donald Trump being proudly held by someone who purported

(45:08):
to be a comedian, although I never really got the
uh the title there, considering that nothing that came out
of her mouth she will remain Nameless, was funny. And
I don't know statistically if you could count it all up,
and I know they keep track of things like this.
You know, the violence rhetoric. Is it coming from the left,

(45:29):
Is it coming from the right. I don't see it
from the right. To be quite candid with you, got illustrations,
let me know, but they seem seemingly pale in comparison
to the violence that's been unleashed by the left on
the right. But going back to the motivations on this,

(45:50):
maybe they want this revolution that we all keep talking about.
I hope this isn't the you know, the straw that
broke the camel's back. I hope that there are not
maybe crazy right wing leaning folks out there who might
take this as a sign that we need to well
maybe do an eye for an eye kind of thing.
Get a pound of flesh back for the elimination of

(46:11):
Charlie Kirk from the platform? Is that not a result
that may be actually desired by those that want to
undermine our country and turn it into something that it's not.
Violence is the spark that sometimes ignites that type of reaction.

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Kirk and somehow tying that with George Washington. Always fascinating
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and he and I and Senator Ran Paul and Congressman
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blow up a boat in the middle of international waters
when you don't know where that boat is going, and
it does not present an eminent threat to the United
States of America. Found out this morning, US military craft
struck the boat, which they claimed was smuggling drugs ready,

(50:35):
even though we now learned the vessel had turned around
and was headed for shore before the strike began. Remember,
the Trump administration's justification was that the boat itself, which
was I think somewhere between fifteen hundred and two thousand
miles away, presented an imminent threat to the United States.
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(51:01):
you can't reconcile those The boat turned around, was heading
back to shore problem yep, the boat was one thousand
plus miles away. Yep. Was it a seaworthy craft that
could have made a thousand plus mile journey? Not likely
any Back over to Charlie Kirk journal describing in the

(51:23):
moment is more tragic because Kirk built his movement, which
is turning Point USA again through political debate again encounter
to this nonsensical narrative that somehow he was engaging in
hate speech debate. If he didn't like what Charlie Kirk
was saying, show up at at Charlie Kirk meaning and

(51:43):
ask him a damn question. That's what he did, Charlie Kirk,
the left statement you made I characterize his hate speech
for the following reasons, and allow Charlie Kirk to encounter
that narrative with Wait a second, what's hateful about phil?
On the blank? What specific thing did I say? You
think characterize the hate speech? That I am an avowed Christian,

(52:05):
that I actively an out loud speak about my faith
and encourage others to engage in Christianity. That's not hate speech.
That's proselytizing. In his mind, he found the light, He
found the path. He knows that he is going to
be right now experiencing the peace of God and the
embrace of Jesus Christ in the afterlife. That was what
he believed in, and it enlightened him and it gave

(52:28):
him comfort in dark times, and he wanted to share
that message with humanity because he believed that was the
right path for others. He wanted others to experience the
joy that he himself fell through his faith. Is that hateful, No,
It is an act of love, even if you're not Christian.
The idea that someone is going to try to convince

(52:49):
you to become Christian and engage in Christian faith and
belief because it will bring you joy. It will be
a salvation to you. You'll be a better person because
of it. That's them wanting something good in your life.
It is in no way hateful at all. It's the
ultimate act of love.

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Is it not?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Journal rights. It's now a dangerous moment for the country,
which could descend into a cycle of political violence that
would be hard to arrest. Yep, it could. They also
right here, which I thought was rather interesting. Perpetrators of

(53:39):
these attacks range in the degree of their mental illness
and delusion, but American society has steadily dismantled the civil
and social guardrails that used to prevent such troubled minds
from straying so disastrously from civilized social norms. Going back
to Charlie Kirk's prostlytizing, maybe that's one of the areas

(54:01):
where we have strayed, one of the areas where we've
dismantled the whole idea of embracing Christian values and the
idea and the concept of maybe, just maybe, if you
do not follow Christian values, maybe if you're evil you're
a murderer, you're a rapist, you're a criminal, you're stealing
from other people, you're violating the Christian norms. Maybe there

(54:22):
might be a price to pay for that. That used
to be a lesson that was taught to young people
all the time. You know, if mom and dad weren't around,
God was there keeping an eye on you. Six twenty five.
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This was a young, thirty one year old young man
had his entire life ahead of him. The conversations we've had,
he was so hard working, so smart, really believed in
everything that he said and fought hard for his release.
You know, young family, wife, two young shows that will
never know their hero father. Somebody that was willing to

(56:04):
put himself at risk at all times and go into
hostile environments for conservatives, which I'll be honest on my I.
One time I joke with him, I said, why these
people are crazy? He goes, That's why I go. God
speed Charlie Kirk. Our prayers, love thoughts with him, his wife,

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his family. We'll continue our coverage on the other side.

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you layer up and say, okay, what can we do?
Fair enough? City spokesperson talking with Fox nineteen reporting on this,
Thank you, Brenda or Donnez. Nine lawsuits foughed by the
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have people calling in they just can't sleep at night,
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I guess I'm just hookah bars always perturbed me. You're
allowed to smoke a hookah? Why you can't smoke cigarettes
or cigars? Those are ver boten? I have no idea.
Let's see what Hank's got this morning. Hank, thanks for
calling the program. Welcome.

Speaker 19 (01:00:23):
Well, I would say good morning, Brian, but it's kind
of a rough morning for some of us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
You know me, I'm always saying happy Thursday or Friday Eve.
I'm always saying happy, have a happy day. But when
you got something like this on your plate and you're
staring at the horror of the reality of what happened
to Charlie Kirk and the fact that it is the
University of nine to eleven. It's a tough thing to
say out loud, I get it.

Speaker 19 (01:00:44):
Yeah, yeah, you kind of took the words out of
my mouth on that, you know, the one of the
thoughts I had, because you were talking about Charlie Kirk
aside from being conservative, being a devout Christian, I'd say
he's qualified as a martyr.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:01:02):
And if you, if you, you might remember I called
in a while back and kind of tongue in cheek,
I was saying that the Democrat Party should be declared
a terrorist supporting organization and have their assets seized. And
as much as I hate to say it, it looks
like they're trying to push us into that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Yeah. And again, I mean going back to the whole
idea that somehow somewhere behind all this, some some people
out there genuinely want a revolution being fought in the
streets to overthrow the foundation of our country. You never know, well,
Arts Duke Ferdinand, I mean, he kicked off a world
war for God's sake.

Speaker 19 (01:01:42):
Yeah, well you know I mean that. Actually the guy's
name that shot him was princep Prinship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, that's right. The death of Arts due the murder
of Arts Ferdinani world War One. You're right, yeah, he didn't.
Art Duke himself didn't do it. He only accomplished it
by being the victim of a murder and his wife.

Speaker 19 (01:02:03):
I might have, yeah, But anyway, long story short, you know,
it's I don't know if you could really say so much.
It's the Democrat Party, but it's people that are using
the Democrat Party as a vehicle because it's big enough
to do something. But they're you know how, it seems

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like the Democrat Party is catering to a minority, a
very dangerous minority.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I agree with that, not.

Speaker 19 (01:02:31):
Not not to mention the fact that you know, I've
said before it's kind of also a little bit tongue
in cheek, but maybe not so much now that there's
only four excuses left to be a Democrat. You're either
not smart, not saying, not honest, or some combination of
the first three.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
And it's it's.

Speaker 19 (01:02:51):
Just kind of getting to the point where, you know,
some years ago I got my concealed carry permit because
I was afraid of starting to worry about the alone
Oha snack bar crowd. But now I'm beginning to worry
about the Democrat Party nut jobs that are running around loose.
And you know, I've gotten to the point where, first off,

(01:03:12):
I don't really like crowds anyway, but anymore, one of
my thoughts about going to a conservative event, is some
nut job going to show up and start shooting at it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Yeah, well that's what they want everybody to start believing
that it is a dangerous thing to attend conservative events
because some nutjob is going to be in the crowd
shooting in people.

Speaker 19 (01:03:33):
Yeah, they're trying to basically intimidate us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And and what's the answer is thinking.

Speaker 19 (01:03:38):
We're going to just have to Well, I guess we're
just gonna have to risk our take our chances.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
And stand up for what we believe in. I mean,
just like Charlie Kirk did. Exactly, Hank, just like Charlie
Kirk lived his life. He put himself in positions where
he was surrounded by people who did not share his
values or his political ideas, and he welcomed to the
opportunity to debate them. So, yeah, don't be afraid, don't

(01:04:04):
stop going, continue to go and continue speaking truth to
this nonsensical power that we're dealing with, and use Charlie
Kirk as an example and illustration. That's what the man
lived for, and that's in his martyrdom, if we want
to call it that, that's what he stands for. So
let's not be afraid. Let's not end the debate and hide.

(01:04:25):
Get out there and double down. Appreciate the call. Mike,
you're next if you don't mind holding him out of
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Six fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
The jack Adaton. There you are, my friend. A little
worried about you this morning.

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
I wasn't able to get on the computer, and then
I apologize, but to say I agree with everything you've
been saying and everybody else. And since we always talk history,
I had a slightly different take. Charlie Kirk for Me
at heart, was a descendant of the quitt essential American

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George Washington. Like the commander of the Continental Army, Charlie
wanted to fight for his country, but West Point unaccountably
turned him down. Instead of subjecting himself to left wing
indoctrination on a college campus, the eighteen year old founded
Turning Point USA and emulated the other side of George Washington,

(01:06:24):
who was not only first in war but also first
in peace. After winning the Revolutionary War, Washington was chosen
to preside over the greatest debates in history, the Constitutional
Convention of seventeen eighty seven. Washington invited a discussion from
all sides on highly contentious issues, from the decentralization of

(01:06:48):
national government to individual rights to slavery. Charlie Kirk also
spent his own to brief life, inviting debate and urging
every campus he visited, including the last in Utah, that
anyone who disagreed with him moved to the front of
the line. Free speech, breed debate, the freedom to assemble

(01:07:13):
and peacefully petition the government. Those inalienable rights were enshrined
in the Bill of Rights First Amendments because they are
at the heart of America. Here's the reason that America
is not communist China, or even France, which places public
order about freedom of speech, or Great Britain, where criticism

(01:07:36):
of trends or immigration policies can land you in jail.
Even here in America. As we've often noted, the head
of National Public Radio Beliefs quote, a reverence for truth
might get in the way of getting things done end quote,
but not d her. She's still there even though the
public funding is ending. Charlie Kirk had a different idea

(01:07:58):
about reverence. You revere God, Brian, you revered truth, and
he revered the constitution. We have a constitution so that
America does not have to resort to political violence. Charlie
Kirk was killed by someone who did not share that reverence.
Charlie will loom larger than ever in years to come

(01:08:20):
as a martyr to the American idea. Joining George Washington,
he will be first in the hearts of his countrymen,
including people like us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
That's brilliant, Jack, absolutely brilliant. And who'd have thought you
could tie in George Washington with Charlie Kirk. But you
made perfect sense of it, Jack, other than as you
always do. Are you concerned that this is going to
lead to you know, I want to say, like retaliation.
I mean you could serve as you know, somebody wanted
to do a copycat. We see that all the time.
So more liberal leftist, crazy socialist communists out there shooting

(01:08:57):
more conservatives. But I also am about the flip side
that there are crazy people within the conservative constitutionally minded
folks out out there in the world that are backcraft
crazy and maybe inclined to well retaliate on some level.

Speaker 8 (01:09:12):
Jack, Well, that's what the leftists live for. They live
for our stupid mistakes, whatever it might be. You know,
they're hoping, oh, now the world will react to Donald
Trump blowing up both to silled with drugs, they will
react to something that he's going to say or do

(01:09:34):
they have no agenda. They have no agenda. Go out
to search the internet find anybody who is talking about policy.
And that's all that Charlie Kirk talked about, and he
talked about it in the most gentlemanly and temperate terms. Yes,
once in a while he'd get kind of a serbic

(01:09:54):
in talking with somebody, but he's got to go out
and read the notes of the Constitutional Convention. George Washington
was there to put a lid on that kind of thing. Yes,
it's entirely possible that somebody will retaliate. I mean, that's
what George Floyd was all about.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Maybe we'll have another Derek.

Speaker 8 (01:10:12):
Show band, you know, and that will lead to another
three years of them being able on the left to
you know, to thrash us or at least try to
for for somebody's mistake. But we have occasional mistakes, we
have occasional nuts. Right, we have nothing but the hope
that we are going to do something like that. So yes,

(01:10:33):
while you're praying for Charlie's family and for Charlie's soul,
go out and pray that we won't have something like
that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Amen. Amen, Jack, I share your concern and your comments
in that regard. I appreciate you joining the program a
little bit late. That's okay. You're always welcome here on
the fifty five KRECE Morning Show. And I'll be interested
in another doubt of your brilliance next next week.

Speaker 8 (01:10:55):
My friend, you're not going to say it. Joe can
come on sometimes cut and say you are you are
our Charlie Kirk. I mean, you give us a chance
every morning to go on and voice what we have
to say, and you never cut off anybody. You invite
every point of view. You'll welcome the other side coming on.

(01:11:16):
It makes the show a lot more fun. And you know,
I don't I don't know what Cincinnati would do without you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Well, I'm humbled by those words, especially coming from you, Jack,
Dan I know I think the world of view and
recognize you for the brilliant man that you are, which
is why I love having you on the program. You
add to the substance that I try to provide here
in the morning show. But the draw parallel between me
and Charlie Kirk, that is high praise, my friend. I
don't believe I'm worthy, but I can't thank you enough

(01:11:43):
for the kind words. I truly appreciate your friendship, Jack
add and I'll look forward to having you back on
next week, my brother. All right, thank you, Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
It's six fifty two here fifty five Caro scene in
the talks station, just real and over this Charlie Kirk thing.
Feeling like we're in a downward spiral, which is a
common dis addressed. Hey, Laura, good morning. Thank you for
the text describing it as a somber day for what

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America stands for. And I'm like, yeah, feeling like we're
in a downward spiral. I sure hope we're not. But
maybe this will ultimately serve as a turning point. Thinking
of turning point USA Charlie Kirk's organization, maybe this will
be a moment of reflection and a turning point for
the American population at large. And violence is not a solution.

(01:14:48):
And is this, I guess, is this a reaction because
you didn't get your way in the presidential election. So
if you don't win, you engage in acts of violence,
you know, And I don't recall this during the Obama administration.
Quite candidly, I wasn't happy Barack Obama got elected. I

(01:15:13):
kind of viewed him as an inexperienced leftist, but murder
because he shares a political viewpoint that's different from mine.
A lot of politicians in the world that don't share
my political viewpoint. And not one time in my entire life,
regardless of how flaming andsane the person might have been,

(01:15:36):
that I ever think about violence as a response. Mississippi James,
good to see you yesterday at Listener Lunch and Anderson
Pub and girl, you and your beautiful wife, and welcome
back to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show.

Speaker 20 (01:15:47):
My friend, Yes, sir doctor Brian, I come in peace,
love everybody, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
We need more people like you, James.

Speaker 20 (01:15:57):
And I've already say it my prayers, Kurt uh so
little private thing for me and my personal you know, feelings.
But what I want to break away from that theme
a little bit and go to have you paid attention
to the UFO that was trying to be shot down

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by the military.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
They shot up with the health fire missile and the
health fire missile bounced off of that thing. That was
creepy footage.

Speaker 20 (01:16:24):
James, have anything come out what they think?

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
It was not that I read the concept, not that
they nothing I've read. It's but to see that happen
and for them to literally say we don't have technology
like this and we don't know what it is. I
mean the ex quote unquote experts, folks in the military,
folks who study these things, they don't apparently have an idea.
And if they have an idea, they sure us all
haven't passed along to us.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
James.

Speaker 20 (01:16:51):
They're just goes to show you there something bigger than
all of us. No matter what we think or feel,
get upset about, get joyed about, it's something that's larger
than that. Yeah, and you hear me say all the time,
I believe we spiritual beings going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Through human experience, Yes, sir, and.

Speaker 20 (01:17:09):
That's tending on the swing back and forth. So like
to say, my heart go out to the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Family and whatnot.

Speaker 20 (01:17:16):
And I've done my private you know part on that
good for you. I leave it at that. Yeah, really
enjoyed myself and you saw the friend that brought it in.

Speaker 10 (01:17:25):
Yeah, talk about you all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Yeah, that was awesome meeting him. And I'm so pleased
he showed up. And I told you you're making You
got a bunch of fans out there in the world, James.
A bunch of people coming over, does that, James, Missisippi, James.
They I wanted to talk to you, Amidia. So I
appreciate your your calls.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
James.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
It's wonderful to hear from you. And it's again good
to see your wife. And I'm glad you managed a
listener to lunch. To everybody who made it and the
folks at Anderson, Pump and Girl, thank you very much.
On the bottom of my heart. I thoroughly enjoyed my
day yesterday. Looking forward to the next one. A're going
to be at Jim and Jackson the River last listener
Lunch before the election. So if you can put it
on your calendar, first Wednesday of October, Jim and Jack's
the place to be and we'll be able to wake

(01:18:03):
Christopher Smithman up. He's got a cot there. He lives
there part time. That's his homeway from home. Christopher. You know,
I'm just pulling your chain. Six fifty six Congressman Warren
Davidson up next. I hope you can stick around.

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(01:18:42):
Difficult to say a happy Thursday or Friday. Reeling from
the tragedy of the assassination of Charlie Kirk yesterday, and
of course it is the anniversary of nine to eleven,
two topics we're going to be talking about right now
with welcome back, Congressman Warren Davidson. It's always a distinct
pleasure to have you on the fifty five KRC Morning Show, sir.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
Or to join you, Brian. Very tragic and sad, sad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Day it is, and of course you're invited to share
your reactions to the murder of Charlie Kirk and what
it might mean. I'm going to refer people to Ken
Blackwell's Facebook posts. He wrote a very just an amazing
commentary directed to the man who murdered Charlie Kirk, and
it's basically a stand in defiance. You tried to silence him,

(01:19:23):
but you failed. And the truth does not die with
a bullet. Principles do not bleed out in the street.
He rites, and our movement is built on conviction and
it's not so fragile that one violent act can scatter it.
So maybe this will there'll be some bright light in
the murder of Charlie Kirk, that his death will serve
to elevate his message, which was one of open honest communication,

(01:19:45):
logic and reason and sharing of ideas.

Speaker 21 (01:19:47):
Congressman Well, look his shirt his life certainly pointed to that.
I mean, he clearly made a difference. He had a
huge impact on a lot of people's lives, and in
a very personal way just in his public message. I mean,
he truly lived his faith, you know, loved Jesus with
everything in him, loved his family, and loved this great country,

(01:20:08):
and was a very effective messenger. And I guess that
was more than a lot of people could bear. And
you know, one person pulled the trigger. It looks like
there are probably some other people involved. We'll see how
the investigation goes, and hopefully everyone associated with this has
brought to justice.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
But the really sick thing is there are people celebrating this.

Speaker 21 (01:20:31):
Yes, and the people that are celebrating and happy to
see Charlie Kirk murdered and butchered, really in front of
a huge audience with great, you know, high resolution video
as they wanted. They're celebrating it, and they would celebrate
the murder of me or you or anyone else. And
what I think they need to understand is if you

(01:20:53):
think this means that we hold these views and values
less strongly, the opposite effect. It's very solidifying. There is
no flinching in the beliefs and values that we have
and will be even more committed to them. And I
think it clarifies what the stakes are for a lot

(01:21:15):
of people.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Yeah, and the atrocious comments. I just some of the
statements that have been made. There's a local restaurant owner
who referred to the late mister Kirk as a piece
of excrement. He didn't use the word excrement, though, Congressman
David So He's got a lot of backlash and his
business may suffer as a consequence of it. But that
that type of statement, and so many of the other ones,

(01:21:38):
the MSNBC idiot who got fired over his insensitive comments.
There's just such a large chorus of people who react
in a positive way to a man being murdered. I mean,
if this happened to a conservative commentator, I mean a
leftist commentator, if it was Bernie Sanders or you know,
pick someone of your favorite leftists out there, I certainly

(01:21:58):
would not rejoice over their death. And I would be
appalled if any of my fellow conservatives or little el
libertarian folks that share my views were to utter something
like that. I would condemn it absolutely. But there's so
many voices who were echoing that horrific comment.

Speaker 21 (01:22:14):
Well, I mean speak of MSNBC. I mean, they've celebrated
everything up to this. Yeah, and I guess the trigger is, well,
don't celebrate the actual murder. I mean, so, you know,
my advice to MSNBC is close, immediately fire everyone and
sell the assets. I mean, there's no reason for that
place to exist. They've promoted a lot of this toxic

(01:22:39):
ideology and hate. They've dehumanized everyone who disagrees with them.
And you know, this is the exact opposite of what
Charlie Kirk did. He was very humanizing. He went to
campuses everywhere, He listened patiently to questions and you know,
even listen patiently when people would interrupt.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Or boo him.

Speaker 21 (01:22:56):
And then eventually he was very gifted. He would get
back on message and people would hear him out and
you make his point. And that's the kind of thing
these people know they're losing in the arena of ideas,
and for a long time at work, just to use
insults and say, oh, well they're racist, or they're fascists,
or their Nazis or they're you know, Christian nationalists or

(01:23:19):
some other pejorative that they could come up to try
to dehumanize people. And even that wasn't working. So now, okay,
as Charlie Kirk anticipated, you know that this leads to
an assassination culture, and he had pointed that out just
in April.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Yeah, that was like sort of spine chilling when you
read his comments from that recently, and knowing that he
just got killed yesterday, really is awful well, speaking of
anger and violence and people taking matters into their own hands.
It is the anniversary set another anniversary of nine to eleven.
You want to reflect on that? I know. I heard
media aviation expert Jay Rattle is going to come on

(01:23:59):
later in Common Bay. Whether we're safer now than we
were back in nine to eleven when the planes were hijacked.
But any reflections or comments on the anniversary of nine
to eleven, Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 21 (01:24:10):
Yeah, I mean I remember, like everyone that was old
enough to have memories, remembers where they were when they
found out about nine to eleven and watched the buildings
fall and just the anger. You know, I wanted to
immediately go to an arms room, draw my weapon in
deploy somewhere, you know, because we knew someone had basically
just engaged in an act of war against the United States.

(01:24:31):
And it took a while, but yeah, and it wasn't
as focused as it should have been. But the guys
that were sent did what we sent them to do.
And I think in the first weeks and months after
nine to eleven, if you would have said we would
have this long run without the same kinds of attacks

(01:24:52):
or some escalatory level of attacks on our country.

Speaker 6 (01:24:56):
It didn't seem believable.

Speaker 21 (01:24:57):
It seemed like it was going to be a lot
more so, there's a lot of things that have proven
very effective.

Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
In this war on tear.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
You know, that is an excellent point Congress from Davidson,
one that I really haven't put a lot of thought to.
We did live on pins and needles there for a
long time thinking there was going to be another terrorist
attack a ken to nine to eleven. I mean, all
the security measures that were put in place, people concerned
about gatherings and meetings and oh my god, we're gonna
have a bunch of angry jihatis coming after us. And
there were some attacks like that, but that there wasn't

(01:25:24):
anything massive like that. Maybe that is the result of
our taking such a profound military response to the attacks.

Speaker 21 (01:25:35):
Yeah, and I think there's a lot of back end
protocols that, you know, give people a lot of comfort.
They don't necessarily need to know all the details about
what goes on and at what level it goes on.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
But there are a lot of efforts.

Speaker 21 (01:25:48):
To interdict you know, evil, and a lot of those
are working. And then some of them, some of them
come in and you go, well, you know, we don't
have to keep doing some of these things at TSA
and the airports and whatnot. So there were working on
ways to keep things safe, and then there's been excesses.
You know, there's things like the Patriot Act where you know,
citizens are supposed to could get a warrant, you know,

(01:26:09):
and not spy on US citizens, and that was anticipated
that it would be abused. And remember Ron Paul being
a great voice on that, and it continues to be
a great voice on that, but they continue to double
down and do more spying and surveillance. I've had an
OpEd talking about that spying in surveillance and the link
to artificial intelligence, and we can't get a major media

(01:26:32):
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Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
I can't thank you enough for bringing that out Congress
from Davidson. I share your opinions on that, and I
know that Judge and Paulitano, Ran Paul Thomas Massey all
have the similar view of the Patriot Act. It is
an intrusion on our rights and violation of the Fourth Amendment,
and it has been abused. As you suggested it would
be Congressman Warren Davison. Real quick here before we part company.

(01:26:59):
I know, you got a meeting to go to, and
we got Alex Trumpefilo coming on next. How did the
town hall meeting go last week? Did you learn anything?
Was it a success?

Speaker 21 (01:27:10):
You know, in retrospect, maybe I was a little naive
about the level of anger. You know, I really didn't
feel that I was personally in danger. I knew there
were people upset, and we knew that the turnout from
what was going to be probably four to one. People
had disagreed and they were coming there to express their disagreement.
It certainly doesn't reflect Trent. And there are a lot
of people that I've talked to and Trent and they're like, well,
what happened? I mean, we're there. They're like, then you

(01:27:32):
talk to the people in Trent and they're like, well,
there's none of these people here. I mean, there were
like thirty people from Trenton at the event, and you
know hundreds of others.

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
You know, about four hundred people at the event.

Speaker 21 (01:27:41):
So it was just a rant fest where, you know,
the minute that I went to speak, they would just
try to talk over it and shout and yell, and
it started with the pledge of allegiance. You said liberty
and justice for all, and they're like for all for all,
and they started a chat about that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:55):
So it's, yeah, it's going to be a long night.

Speaker 21 (01:27:57):
But if you had mentioned triggered words like illegal, oh,
there's no legal people and they had to shout and
stuff like that, and it was kind of nonsensical, but
it highlighted that they didn't want the speech and debate clause.
They want the angry mob, and that was basically what
they wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
And that is a perfect illustration of you know, Charlie
Kirk and what he stood for, open debate, discussion, engaging
people even if they have a different voice, and trying
to communicate with them. And the left, of course, shouts
down and as we saw yesterday, murders when it can't
get its message across because it's a failed message. My
comment's not yours. Congressman Warren Davidson, Thank you so much

(01:28:33):
for your time this morning. I appreciate it. Off to
your meeting. Keep up the great work and I'll look
forward to having you back on the show real soon. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
Thanks Brian, god bless you and all your listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Thank you, sir, God bless you. Seven to fifteen. Right now,
Alex Tchranthefilo, Ohio Republican Party Chairman's going to join the program.
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Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Seven nineteen fifty five ker CD talk station, oh summer
day today. But we have someone to talk about that
expressed this feelings on the assassination of the late Charlie Kirk.
Welcome back to the fifty five KRS Morning Show, which
was which was a happier topic. Alex Cheronta, Filo, head
of the Ohio Republican Party. Good to have you back
on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Well, Brian, Yeah, it's gonna be with you always. But
today we have a heavy heart, there's no question about that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Yeah, and your reaction again, I'm gonna mention Ken Blackwell's
comments that he wrote this eloquent statement to the many
murdered Charlie Kirk. So sorry, buddy, you proved something you
never tended to prove, that Charlie's words were powerful enough
to terrify you. You forced him, you feared him, not
because he carried a weapon, because he carried ideas that
cut deeper than any weapon you could ever wield. And

(01:31:42):
he went on to say, hey, buddy, you the lit
a fire and that fire is going to burn bright.
And you did nothing but strengthen the message to Charlie Kirk.
And I can only hope that Ken's observations on that
ring true.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
Well, so many people have been eloquent, Ken among them,
and I, you know, I don't have much to add
to that, frankly, but a couple thoughts I think I
would share. First of all O'Brien's conservatives, we're winning and
this is a result of it. We are winning. They
cannot defeat us with their ideas because their ideas are
tired and old. And instead of debating our ideas, what

(01:32:14):
the left does is they demonize our leaders. They call
Donald Trump a dictator, they call us Nazis, they call
us racists. They only demonized us because they can't win
on our ideas. They can't win on the questions of
patriotism and capitalism and freedom and the things that we
care about. And what Charlie Kirk did is he went

(01:32:35):
to young voters. You know something, I as a as
a political leader, if we've worried about and worked on
for a long time. We found the perfect messengers conservatives
in Charlie Kirk, and we're winning. And I think that's
that's my overwhelming feeling as I wake up today, and
by the way, not after a good night's sleep. This
has affected me deeply in a personal way. I guess
maybe because I've got a nephew I love dearly Papick

(01:32:57):
by the way, has a birthday today, who's thirty one
years old.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Young children like this.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
He's at the beginning of a.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Career building something.

Speaker 8 (01:33:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
I'm just this has affected me deeply, and I will
tell you that again. My overwhelming feeling is we're winning.
And Charlie Kirk's death is to mean anything to my
fellow conservatives. Be active, Come do what we do, which
is wage the battle daily for the for conservative ideas.
Be involved, go be a pullworker this election again and

(01:33:26):
vote if you're in a greater Cincinnati area for Corey Bowman.
And again, I'm not trying to politicize. I'm trying to
say that we are in a battle for the soul
of the country, and while they're shooting us, we cannot
be we cannot cower, we cannot still we must continue
to fight and wage the war. Donald Trump said fight, fight,
fight when they shot him. That these moments cannot be

(01:33:47):
left without action. And for me, that's how I wake up.
As if I'm not already motivated, I've put in some
long hours already. It's only Thursday this week, but I
will tell you that I am super motivated, Brian, And
in addition to my sadness and anger, I'm motivated to
defeat this horrific ideology that seeks to hunt us and
kill us and end us as conservatives. It cannot stand

(01:34:10):
this moment, cannot stand, and feel very strongly about it.
But I know you're giving a voice to a lot
of great people this morning, and I appreciate that very much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
And I appreciate your voice. Appreciate your voice too, Alex.
And speaking of building on something isn't Charlie Kirk's ass,
I'll call it career, his efforts, his outreach efforts with
turning point Usa. The fact that one and he only
lived to age thirty one, but in his short life,
that that one man was able to elevate this message
and becomes so successful. Is that not illustrative of the

(01:34:38):
demand that exists out there for that message, and it's
a growing embrace that young people are having. Young men
particularly are gravitating over to this traditional conservative ideology. There's
clearly a lot of people out there who feel the
way Charlie Kirk did, and you and I do.

Speaker 10 (01:34:56):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
He tapped into something, There's no question yeah, and frankly
with vik Ramaswami has tapped into the same message, and
that is that young people yearned to be part of
something bigger than themselves. They yearned to get past this
woke garbage that dominated the country for almost a decade.
They want to be part of something. I wanted to
be proud of their country. They want to be patriotic.

(01:35:18):
They recognize the power of capitalism to raise up them
and their families. Charlie Kirk spoke eloquently about go have
lots of children. You know, you don't have enough voices
in the public space, saying that I believe that I'm
blessed with a huge, wonderful family and people that love
each other. These things are what Charlie Kirk talked about.

(01:35:38):
And he was a man of God. His purpose was
bigger than just politics. So yes, he found a message
that resonated with young people, and what it's meant is
great benefits to my political party, which I'm forever grateful,
and I think it's one of the reasons I'm so shaken.
Charlie had the force of nature. And by the way,
Brian loved a fan. I want to say about him
this morning, because it's just not no one's saying it

(01:35:58):
out loud. I'm going to say it about Charlie Kirk.
He was flat out brilliant. He was brilliant and some
of the smartest people. I think the smartest people in
American political life are on the right nowadays. JD. Vance
is a brilliant thinker. So vak Ramaswami is a brilliant
and brilliant human being. Same with Charlie Kirk. Watch him
and marvel at his depth of knowledge of everything from

(01:36:20):
the Bible to the Constitution to the Declaration of Independence
and all matters in between it. And at just a
mere thirty one years old, this man was as well
read and brilliant as any thinker of any political stripe
in America. And I think if we look at where
the thinkers are in modern American politics are on the right.
Charlie was a thought leader in many many ways.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Indeed he was. God bless you, Alex Rantefila. Keep up
the great work, and let's take the ball and continue
to run with it. We have an opportunity here among
in this tragedy to keep continuing to spread this message
and serve to remember Charlie Kirk the way he would
like to be remembered, which is advancing this profoundly bad
message in America, one that's going to rescue America from

(01:37:02):
this leftist wave we've been facing. Alex T will look
forward to having you back on the program. Anytime you're
ready to do that. I'll look for that, and I
hope you have a wonderful week, my friend. God bless you, Brian,
thank you. I'm back at you, seven twenty five. Right now,
I fifty five KCD talk station joining us in studio.
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Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
Fifty five KRCD talk station. Keep struggling because I'm typically
saying Happy Friday Eve on a Thursday, and the happy
part is what's stuck in my throat right now. Of course,
with the murder of Charlie Kirk yesterday, we're going to
move aside from that, at least momentarily, although I do
welcome his thoughts and comments in studio, Charles Tassel. We've
got a lot to talk about with Charles. He's been

(01:39:29):
in before on the street rescue. We've got an event
coming up, the street Rescue event in an effort to
prevent gun violence in downtown Cincinnati. But he's also got
a brand new position in the Trump administration. I have
his new business card in my hands. Charles Tassel, High
State Director of Rural Development. You're at the USDA now.
Welcome back, Charles. It's always great seeing you.

Speaker 22 (01:39:48):
Thank you, Brian. I appreciate it. I've been having a
great time enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
A great time in your role working for the United
States government.

Speaker 10 (01:39:55):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:39:55):
One of the things they offered was, Hey, would you
like to come to DC, And I was like, you know,
I'm going to be a grandfather very shortly, and I'm
literally waiting on that in the next couple of weeks.
So I was like, if i I'll do State, I'll
do Ohio. And I am blessed working with Buckeyes, helping
Buckeyes here and it's a whole different approach than what
you get in the swamp.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Okay, Well, since we started talking about your new role,
rather than let's do this, we'll do the street rescue
in the next segments, let's talk about this role. You're
the rural development person. Now what does it mean? What
are you going to be doing? In the state of
Ohio For the USDA, So.

Speaker 22 (01:40:28):
Rural development covers areas that are usually less than fifty
thousand population. It's eighty six of eighty eight counties in
Ohio and the unincorporated areas less than fifty thousand, incorporated
less than twenty thousand population. And what we do is
we have a variety of services. There's over eighty eight programs,
but three main areas. It's really kind of a housing
so direct housing loans type of thing. You've got your

(01:40:51):
central area, which is the business and industry, a lot
of loans, guaranteed loans, and then also some grants. Everybodways
wants the grants, but there's some grants a lot. And
then there's also on the community facility side, and this
is where we can come in and help municipalities with
lower cost rather than a commercial loan, again a guaranteed
loan and sometimes a grant on there as well for

(01:41:12):
a police or a fire department and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
So the USDA is involved in funding police fire departments.

Speaker 22 (01:41:18):
Well, so we provide the loans for them because again
getting financing sometimes in your rural areas gets very difficult.
So we're able to help with that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Okay, So I don't want to sound pejorative on this.
You're sort of like a financier of last resort for
these folks.

Speaker 22 (01:41:32):
Absolutely, And what we do is we look at the
median housing income, so areas that have lower housing income,
those that need it the most, that's really where we
focus on. It can actually have some lower interest rates
for those areas.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Now, what level of oversight is there with regard to
any given program, whether they I mean in terms of
I suppose you have to qualify for a loan out
In the real world, qualifying for a loan, quite often
for business loan for example, is predicated on the likelihood
of success on the business program that you're funding. Do
you engage in a thoughtful analysis of where they're planning
on spending the money before underwriting them?

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Actually?

Speaker 22 (01:42:06):
Painfully?

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
So painfully? Well that's good.

Speaker 22 (01:42:08):
It's this is not the Hey, you're just throwing out
money all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Right an NGO handing up his hand, give me some money,
okay here?

Speaker 10 (01:42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:42:16):
Well, and actually NGOs are part of what we're looking at. Really,
there are NGOs and I make the comment that some
of our NGOs may look a little bit like the
usa'd NGOs, so we take a very hard look at that.
What is the grant money going for. I've requested reports
on a few NGOs on making sure that they've actually
provided services.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
That's helpful. The follow up seems to be the big
the problem overall the concept of a non government organization
performing a government service that's not new, but whether someone
actually peers into the work they claim to be doing
or purport to do with the money they get, that
doesn't ever seem to happen. That was one of the
big problems with USA we found.

Speaker 22 (01:42:54):
Well, and that's it. And some of the reports that
have come in. I looked at one of them and said,
this is not a report. When you tell me you
met with some folks, you pass some stuff out you did,
there's no metrics here. I want metrics on these. If
they're not going to provide that, they fail their quarterly report.
And if you start failing quarterly reports, you've got a
thirty day response time or you're cut off on the funds.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Charles Tassel, responsible Stewart of the American Taxpayer Dollar AMEN.
That's what we need. I appreciate you in that role.
I know you're you're going to be competently doing that role.
Anything else you can talk about, I mean you suggest it.
Like everybody I talked to in politics, somebody's got a
connection within the federal gunment. Like to think of Congressman
Brad Winstrom. Almost every time he's on the program during
the break, he'll say, Oh my god, I really wish

(01:43:34):
I could say to you what I know. But I
got a high level security clearance. This stuff is confidential.
I'm not allowed to talk about it. But Lord Almighty,
if you only knew, But.

Speaker 22 (01:43:44):
I would love to know those things as well. I
don't have those type of clearance.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Now, what what are we looking for that right here?

Speaker 22 (01:43:49):
So really, what we are to do again part of
the administration is it putting in place the vision that
the president and the vice president in this case of
Secretary Secretary of Rowlins have put forward. So an example
that is the President has said no more DEI. So
one of the things we're looking at is he has
two executive orders fourteen one fifty one and fourteen one

(01:44:09):
seventy three, and those are two executive w We're saying
programs and funding should not go to programs or money
should not be going to programs that have DEI in
them or pushing DEI. So that's part of it. Looking
at certifications, what the process is, and implementing that. It's
one thing to say it, now implementing it through all
the vastness of the government is part of what we're

(01:44:30):
working on.

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
And as I learned the other day, there was an
investigative reporter that was speaking with some folks in local
high schools. They posed as prospective parents were interested in
enrolling their foe transgender daughter in school, and the officials,
in spite of the fact that DEI and sharing bathrooms

(01:44:51):
and women having to play sports with men, that's all
banned under high law, they were coaching these proposed parents
on how to work around it. So that's what I
worry about. There's no DEI in any given NGO proposal
they submit to you. They're looking for this loan or
a grant. They don't say anything about DEEI, but they

(01:45:11):
actually implement it and follow DEI practices in their day
to day operations.

Speaker 22 (01:45:17):
Well, and that's part of what we put forward as
here's some program requirements that I have put forward that
my staff needs to follow up on to make sure
that if you are saying something that you're actually doing
what you say you do and then following up on
that and as is very important as an attorney, you
understand this document document document, amen to that, and so
that's what we're in the process of.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Charles tasks will continue. There's a very important and we've
talked about this many times over the years. They do
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Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Seven forty here fifty five KRCD talk station Charles Tassel
in studio was in the last segment wearing his Ohio
State Director of World Development from the US Department of
Agriculture hat. Now he's going to put on his anti
violence hat and we'll talk about the Tenth Street rescue event.
But before we do that, I think maybe even an
appropriate segue. You just made a comment on air or
off air about Charles Kirk's murder, and you had an

(01:48:33):
interesting parallel.

Speaker 22 (01:48:34):
Well, I think of Mahatma Gandhi, who sat down with
his opposition and really just wanted to talk to them.
And if you looked at what Charlie Kirk did with
his and my daughters talked about this and their friends
yesterday couldn't stop talking about He would sit down and
just say, okay, prove me wrong. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Literally quote prove me wrong.

Speaker 22 (01:48:53):
Exactly and walk through that. And when you're talking about
people who are focused on peace, they were and yet
taken out by violence, and it's just I see the
parallel there in their.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Lives, as do I. And I just read it hasn't
come out. I think maybe it came out, hasn't come
out yet. Either way, The new book by whose Name
Am I coming for?

Speaker 10 (01:49:16):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
Joe Bill O'Reilly. He wrote about all the evil people
in the world, you know, moutsee Tongue and Genghis Khan
and Caligula and Vladimir put and all the murders and
how much And these are all cases were some pretty
drange people, but mostly from the far left realm of politics.
Evil dictators or communists and the just millions and millions

(01:49:40):
of political opponents. They slay, just killed them, outright murder.

Speaker 22 (01:49:45):
Absolute fear of ideas. Yes can't their ideas won't stand up,
so they have to kill. And that's when you see
the violence. You see somebody resorting the violence or celebrating
that violence. That tells you where they're at.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Amen to that. Charles Tassel allows us to pivot over
to the rescue event. And we got a gun problem
here in the city. Since say you're aware of that,
are you not?

Speaker 22 (01:50:05):
Well, we have a gun violence provilence. Right, it's got
the gun because you know what supporting yourself being Second
Amendment caring. Amen, do it get In fact, one of
the things we talked about is making sure you actually
have skills going to the range, practicing, know how to
handle it because the most dangerous thing is a weapon
in the hands of somebody who doesn't know how to
use it or won't use it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Absolutely, and I have been sort of continuing a theme
of late about being our brother's keeper and maybe carrying
a firearm allows us to do just that. But you
damn well better know how to use it before you,
you know, are are going to be part of the
solution to the problem.

Speaker 22 (01:50:42):
I guess being one of the sheep dog where you
carry security for church, let me tell you, you pray
a lot that it doesn't happen exactly. This is the
last thing you want to have happen. Nobody wants violence, no,
but we need to be able to stand up to
those who are going to have violence. And one of
the things we see the community is they see people

(01:51:02):
who are acting violently and will hide guns in the community.
And that's really what street Rescue is all about, is
making sure that the community those are the real heroes.
They know where this weapon is at. Do you want
to go put your fingerprints on it or not? Well,
here's an easy way, no questions asked. Bring that gun,
bring it in and we get weapons, We get ammunition,
we get all kinds of weapons that come in I've

(01:51:23):
heard everything from literally a black powder rifle to we
get moms who will bring in a pistol that's been modified.
It really was a BB gun, but they make it
look like it's not. Oh gee, so they can have
a flash gun which will get them shot. To we've
had some mac ten's brought in, We've had ar pistols
brought in, and these are loaded weapons, anywhere from twenty
thirty rounds, chambered, ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Chambered, ready to go. So you stumbled upon a great point.
That a great point, I'm patting myself in the back.
But a question I wanted to ask someone out there
in the world who say is afraid of firearms, doesn't
want them in the neighborhood, definitely wants to turn one in,
but certainly handling a loaded fire or being so unfamiliar
with the operation of firearms, they wouldn't know whether it

(01:52:03):
had a chamber in the round or not. What advice
do you give to those people, Because folks out there
like that may very well know, very well know one
of these guns is well.

Speaker 22 (01:52:12):
And Pastor Rainey, who is the pastor at Greater New
Mountain Moriah Missionary Baptist Church, we're welcome if somebody wants
to contact us ahead of time, somebody wants to reach
out to us on Facebook, we will come to the
place where that weapon is and secure it. We have
people that pull up and say, it's in the trunk,
I don't want to touch it, right, And we've pulled
about a third of the weapons that come in are loaded,

(01:52:33):
and so safety and security is our first priority. Make
sure everything is safe, clear it and just move from there.
And a lot of folks we offer gift cards as
kind of incentive or a thank you. A lot of
people just say no, thank you, thank you for doing this,
cricket cards, right, and it's been amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
And again, you're not an anti Second Amendment organization. All
you are is about getting the most dangerous of guns
off the street. These are the lending guns like a
lending library. It is gang members or whoever is. The
glock is over there in that cubby hole in the alleyway.
After you're done using it, make sure you put it
back because I'm gonna need it on Saturday night.

Speaker 22 (01:53:08):
Right, That's exactly it. And if I can encourage gun owners,
make sure you take your serial number, so if your
weapon is ever stolen, it can be listed that they're
looking for it, because one of the first things we
do with every weapon coming in is look it up
to see if it's listed as stolen, and a tremendous
number of them are not listed because somebody didn't take

(01:53:28):
the time to write the serial number down to report it.
They're gonna go to their insurance company, but they don't
have the serial numbers, so we can't get it back
to them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Well, and isn't it. And I'm don't want to talk
out a queue here. I don't know specifically, but I
thought under a high wal you had an obligation to
alert the authorities if your firearm was stolen.

Speaker 22 (01:53:47):
Absolutely, but that doesn't mean somebody knows what there's that
serial number on that area and that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
All right, Well, yeah, write your serial numbers down. It's
really important. I you never thought about that. I just
have all the receipts for the guns that I've bought
over the years, and they all have or the boxes
they came in with a serial number. Correct. Yep, All right,
well I got that checked. So the when and the where?
So the street rescue event, where's it located? What time
can people swing by or and how can they contact you, say,

(01:54:14):
for that person that knows where the gun is but
doesn't want to touch it, Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:54:17):
The easiest thing is to come contact us through either
Facebook or on X We're on X as well. But
this Saturday, Greater New Mountain Moriah Missionary Baptist Church, which
is seventy five hundred Anthony Wayne Avenue. This is over
and Carthage. It's at that five Points area. We're just
off to the right. The church is right there, been
there since eighteen sixty five and we'll be there on
Saturday at the thirteenth from ten am until two pm.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Ten am to two pm. No questions asked, any unwanted firearms, weapons, ammunition.
It's all welcome there. And you're partnering with Dale Mallory.
Put the guns down, pick up the gloves program on.

Speaker 22 (01:54:51):
This absolutely, Dale and I've been doing this for years.
He's been fantastic and really focused on this isn't some
ideological thing where people are like, oh, I'm a criminal,
I'm going to turn in my gun. That doesn't happen, No,
it doesn't. It's really the people in the community. And
Dale's focus was to say, look if you've got somebody
who's got you know, misplaced anger issues. They're trying to
say I'm tough. He's like, no, put down the gun.

(01:55:15):
And the focus was to pick up the gloves and
do the boxing side of things. Engage if you want
to be man to man, and let's face it, as men,
we've gotten to a scuffle somewhere and typically that person
becomes a friend afterwards because you scuffled, you put us aside.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
And move on is kind of what guys usually do.
You know, you do that and Charlie Kirk would have
done that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:34):
He would have that's it.

Speaker 22 (01:55:36):
Have a little scuffle, deal with it and move on
and we end the violence, not escalating the violence. And
that's really what we need to focus on in the
society right now.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
A lot of people involved in that program.

Speaker 22 (01:55:46):
There's about a half dozen, well about a dozen of us.
We have a few people there every time.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Great, yeah, all right, well, Charles tassel On, behalf of
everybody in the listening audience and everybody in any community
for the work you're doing. Drop off your gun seventy
five hundred Anthony Wayne Avenue this Saturday between ten am
and two pm, or just get in touch with them.
Your online site is street dash Rescue dot org. Yes,
they can reach you through that as well. Absolutely, Charles Tassel,

(01:56:12):
thanks for what you're doing man.

Speaker 22 (01:56:13):
Thank you, Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
You're always welcome here and I'll see again next year
when you do it again.

Speaker 22 (01:56:16):
Absolutely, thank you.

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Coming up on seven fifty three to fifty five kr
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Congressman David Taylor returns to the fifty five KRC Morning Show.
Will get his thoughts and reactions to the murder of
Charlie Kirk, violence generally nine to eleven anniversary, as well
as the Connors Law, which is called the Child Interstate
Abortion Notifications Act. Jay RATTLEFF at eight thirty. Let's pivot
over to the phone. See what Brian's got this morning. Brian,

(01:58:27):
thanks for calling. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 24 (01:58:30):
Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey, I was just calling because
I am. Yesterday when I saw the news, I first
first about Charlie Kirk's assassination in our shooting. I reached
out to my son, who is a student at the
university at the Utah VLI University in Utah and got
his his account of things. Now, my son, Jonathan, actually

(01:58:52):
didn't go to school because of the protests, and he says,
just there's crazies out there. That were, you know, protesting
the the appearance or the presence of Charlie Kirk. He
was advised by friends and others just maybe just don't
go to school that day because I don't have one

(01:59:12):
class anyways, take a path. So he did and and
then this, you know, this happens. But he told me.
I called him as soon as I heard the news
to find out, you know, if he was on campus.
And and what is uh, you know what a situation
was he tol me at that time, says, campus is
locked down. Everybody there is, you know, stuck in classes.

(01:59:34):
They're not allowed to leave unless they get security security
clarence to leave. And but what what a tragedy that
on a campus it is primarily conservative in a very
conservative environment in uh Happy Valley Provo waram Utah area,
that that something like this can occur, And what what
a what a disappointment of security? How do you let

(01:59:55):
somebody up on a roof for in a position to
do this? And that really presents a day. What if
a nutcase wants to go up there at the students.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Yeah, let's face the man, there's just not enough security
to go around. I mean, whoever thought Charlie Kirk would
be a target. He's not a congressman, he's not a senator,
not a president, not an elected official, just one guy
with a lone voice. Brian, I'm glad you very and
there's the reason why he was targeted right there, Brian,
I appreciate your calling. I'm so happy your son was

(02:00:25):
well safe. What more can apparent want out of that
real quick here, at the risk of running, maybe it's
just a skosh over. I'm going to read you the
words of Ken Blackwell. Blackwell, and as we approach the
top of the art, we're going to have Congressman David
taylorand offered his thoughts and comments. But Ken Blackwell wrote,
and you can read it for yourself, to the man
who murdered Charlie Kirk. You may think you struck a
blow against the man you disagreed with. You may think

(02:00:46):
your cowardly acts somehow silenced him. But let me make
this very clear. You failed. You failed because truth does
not die with a bullet. Principles do not bleed out
in the street. A movement built on conviction and is
not so fragile that one violent act can scatter it.
You prove something you never intended to that Charles words

(02:01:08):
or Charlie's words, were powerful enough to terrify you. You
feared him not because he carried a weapon, because he
carried ideas that cut deeper than any weapon you could
ever wield. You feared the light he carried because he
exposed the darkness you live in. You thought you could
erase his influence. Instead you underlined it. You thought you
could end his mission, instead you multiplied it. You thought

(02:01:28):
you could make us afraid. Instead you've made us stronger.
History is filled with cowards who hid behind violence when
they could not win with reason. Every tyrant who jailed
at his center, every fanatic who silenced the profit, every
assassin who tried to erase a leader. They all share
the same delusion that killing a messenger kills the message.
Time has proven them all wrong, and time will prove

(02:01:49):
you wrong too, Because Charlie's fight is not just his,
it's hours, and now it burns brighter than ever. His family,
his friends, his countless supporters. Across this country. We carry
his tour. But you cannot put it out. You cannot
stop what has already taken root in the hearts of millions.
You want to silence a man. Instead, you gave a
voice to a generation. You want to stop a movement, instead,

(02:02:11):
you set it on fire. You want to strike fear.
Instead you revealed your own. We are not afraid of you.
We're not backing down. We are not surrendering. Our beliefs,
our principles are our courage. So remember this. When you
hit in the shadows and pulled the trigger, you did
not prove strength, You proved weakness. You did not end
the mission. You gave it a new beginning. You did
not stop Charlie Kirk. You made sure his message will

(02:02:33):
echo far louder than it ever has before. Charlie's fight
is our fight. His cause is our cause. And if
we carry it forward with even more determination, more resolve,
and more unshakable faith than ever before, you failed, and
we will never fail him. Ken blackwell bad, It's good well,
stated Congressman Taylor after the news today.

Speaker 17 (02:02:54):
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Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
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Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
Hey twelve fifty five Parris de talk station communication breakdown
we had in the zoom link and that obviously was
not working well with Congressman Taylor, and we are lacking
a phone number right now, So Joe's busily trying to
find Congressman Taylor, but sadly not on the line right now,
so have to kind of move on right now. We'll
hear from Jay Ratliff bottom of the hour, I heard,

(02:03:24):
aviation expert, and we will be discussing at the outset
the anniversary of nine to eleven, twenty four years ago.
I still just cannot get over how quickly the time
has passed on that. And that's one of those things,
you know, where were you when Kennedy was assesss say, well,
I wasn't a gleam of my dad's eye on that aven,
but that was kind of the common thing. You know,
where were you when? Well, I certainly remember where I
was on nine to eleven, driving to corporate headquarters at

(02:03:48):
Anthem he Blue Cross, Blue Shield in Indianapolis. And as
it was first reported, it was believed that it was
a prop plane that flew into the twin towers. I
can't remember who I was listening to at the time.
I think it was Bob and Tom.

Speaker 20 (02:04:04):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
And of course by the time I got the corporate headquarters,
everyone was full aware of what happened, and everyone was
sent home that day was just awful, awful, but it
was I think what was at the last time we
had a moment of unity in this country. Well, I
don't say that jokingly, but there was at least that

(02:04:26):
moment in time, a rally around the flag. America had
been attacked, American values had been attacked by well, some
crazy religious fundamentalists who didn't see it our way. They
killed people because they were in America. Basically, they killed

(02:04:49):
Americans just simply for being Americans. The folks that died,
you think about that, folks that died at nine to
eleven weren't legitimate targets even were people live in their
own lives. Congressman Taylor, welcome back to the program. Glad
to have you. Now we've got a landline connection, so
we'll be clear talking again. Going back to your reactions
to Charlie Kirk. Congressman, Yeah, sir.

Speaker 10 (02:05:13):
Sorry about that, Brian. I don't know if that's a
connection on my end or what, but I apologize either with.

Speaker 8 (02:05:20):
Good morning.

Speaker 10 (02:05:20):
But before we get started on that, I just want
to take a moment to honor the memory of those
we lost from this day in two thousand and one
with the terrible news yesterday. It's important we don't forget that, Amen,
And it's and victims and brave first responders who charging

(02:05:40):
the danger without a thought of their own safety. And
it's sad that the threat we face that day still
runs over us and we've lost a lot more lives
since then trying to fight it. But as you said that,
you're the news of yesterday afternoons is on everybody. It's
in the top of everybody's mind. And that makes sense.
And you know, I'm of the cooling of rhetoric on

(02:06:02):
both sides of the aisle, But I have to say,
I feel like we're reaping what the what the left
has sown since I got the Congress, I've heard every
single Democrat leader call directly for violence in the streets,
and it seems like it's the only thing they've been
effective that since I've gotten here. They chased the fringe

(02:06:22):
of their base for years. Uh and now we're suffering
the consequences these feel people feel like their lunacy has
been legitimized by Keen Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and Kamala
Harrison right on down the line. They're acting out against
police and ice agents and anyone who's thousands of conservative views.

(02:06:44):
I have to say, you know, and I've thought this
for a while and I haven't said it. It looks
to me like a fear response, and not the fear
of some made up threat to democracy, but a fear
that comes from knowing that President Chump's policies are going
to work for all Americans and they'll be made more
and more impotent and irrelevant. So their last resort is

(02:07:07):
to lash out with the violence. And it's basically more
like a third world political strategy from the party that
because works so hard to import the third world. Charlie
was a great American. He's the loving husband and father.
He went behind your two beautiful children and young wife,
and he should be uphugging these kids right now this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:07:28):
It's really heartbreaking, It certainly is, and you know, I
keep going back to it was kind of the point
of the point that Ken Blackwell made in his very
eloquent statement about the message of Charlie Kirk and his
assassination is not going to do a damn thing to
silence that message. In fact, it'll embolden folks here on
the san side of the political ledger to embrace Charlie

(02:07:49):
Kirk and go out and further spread his message.

Speaker 10 (02:07:53):
One hundred percent right. You know what you're seeing a
a move to the right politically, and gen Z especially.
I mean, Charlie's probably more responsible for that than most.
So violence is an attempt to suppress that speech. But
I guarantee you, just like you said, you'll see many
more concertive voices rise up in his place. The violence

(02:08:17):
will not silence these kids. And you know, since the
birth of this country, we've had people willing to give
their lives to preserve it and we're all still here.
So I don't think you're going to see a change
from the right or we're not going to be cowed.

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
No, And to those who might be fearful of going
to a rally or a meeting or a collection of
people who are engage in political activism, I would say
stand up to don't be afraid, don't be fearful, don't
expect this is going to happen to you. I mean,
we need to respond to this not by cowering in
our homes, but by going out and defying those that
would want to make us cower in our homes.

Speaker 10 (02:08:53):
Right, if you back away from being engaged and what
we're dealing with right now. But then you know, we've lost,
so I think people recognize that. I don't think we're
going to see but as you said, I think we're
going to see an increase in people seeking out for,
you know, the policies that make America great. And I think,

(02:09:14):
if you say, you many people online are celebrating what
happened here in the sort of fog of war that
within the twenty four hours I would But I think
in the long term that those extreme leftists are going
to relate regret what happened yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
I dearly hope for that, and I agree with your
conclusion in that regardless, I can only pray for that conclusion.
All right. Pivoting over the work of a congressman, I
suppose is never over. And we'd like to see more
people working on the twelve appropriations bills as we fast
approach another government shutdown or maybe not if that bill
of stop government shutdowns goes through. Talk with that about

(02:09:51):
talk with that or with Congress and Massey about that.
Just yesterday apparently by having a bill that says there
will be an automatic continuing resolute and keeping funding at
the same level as the prior year should you fail
to reach an agreement on the twelve Appropriations Bill on time.
I think that's an effective way to just remove the
threat of the shutdown because Congressman Taylor, for some reason,

(02:10:12):
every time there's a shutdown, Republicans seem to be blamed
for it. And I understand that's the spin from the
mainstream meeting and the Democrats, but it always seems to
land on the Republicans side of the ledger by way
of blame. So this would take the blame out of it.

Speaker 10 (02:10:25):
Yeah, that's an interesting point. And on that I was
speaking to Congressman Joyce from Ohio yesterday and they are
working extremely hard on the appropriations bill and very close
to wrapping those up good on the House side, not
you know, there's more to it than just the House side,
of course, but work is progressing. They're working extremely hard.
That were late, long, late hours getting through those, so

(02:10:48):
hopefully we get there. I mean, I don't want to
being Pollyanna until you were going to have a complete
budget reckon failed before September thirtieth, that's extremely unlikely. So yeah,
I think we are looking at a short term cr
clean one I hope, and maybe not by the end
of the year. Then by the end of January have

(02:11:10):
all the builds in place and we can operate under
a budget for the first time in thirty years.

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
Or of course that I mean that those words even
came out of your mouth, sir, it's just mind blowing.
I mean, is that like your fundamental basic job description
as a representative to do the twelve Appropriations Bill annually?
You know it's coming every year, it's the same thing.
And for thirty years. Nope, we didn't get it done. Omnibus.

(02:11:35):
I couldn't.

Speaker 10 (02:11:36):
Yeah, absolutely, I couldn't agree more. But you know, it's
one of those things that once you get away with it,
once I think the folks see, oh I don't really
have to live up to that responsibility. Well then let's
see how long I can get away with it. And
it's a shame how long the Congress has succeeded in
getting away with it. But as I said, there is
a real push to get it done on the House side,

(02:11:57):
and I know that the Senate shares that. So I'm optimistic.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
Good, I appreciate your optimism. Now let's pivot over to
the child interstate abortion Notification Act. I guess it's a
ka Connor's law. What's this all about, Congressman.

Speaker 10 (02:12:12):
Well, actually those are two different ones. Connor Law is
the law that requires DL drivers to speak and read
English proficiently.

Speaker 9 (02:12:21):
But we can talk.

Speaker 10 (02:12:22):
We can talk about that either later at another visit
the Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act. The main message there
is no one should be taking children across state lines
to receive secret abortions behind the backs of that child's parents.
It protects both children and it upholds parnal rights and

(02:12:42):
it doesn't impose Uh. Your you're a fine lawyer before
you became a fine radio host, and you know, the
full faith and credit under the Constitution is sort of
the basis of this this law. If you take an
underaged girl who's pregnant, uh, a way to say Illinois

(02:13:04):
for an abortion, to try to get it without notification
of the parent, just requires Illinois to to give full
faith and credit to Ohio's law and notify the parents
of that child. It doesn't affect the laws of the
states that don't have parental notification requirements. I think every
state should. But states are states and they have the
right to ask the laws they choose the California, New York,

(02:13:27):
Illinois states like that. If they choose not to, those
laws are still respected. But we expect the laws and
in states with some common sense to be respected to.

Speaker 1 (02:13:37):
So have you have you looked at this? You know,
my lawyer of brains kicking in, but never a constitutional lawyer.
I but a freedom of travel. I just I'm anticipating
some sort of constitutional challenge to this. Uh, this this concept, I.

Speaker 10 (02:13:52):
Imagine there will be all kinds of challenges to it.
You know, this is one of those one of those
issues that no, no change whatever, go and challenge. But
I don't I think it constitutionally. I think you're you're
The full faith and credit argument would be the biggest
argument on the side of the passage as far as

(02:14:17):
the support goes. That pulls at about seventy percent. So
even quite a few Democrats recognize that children shouldn't be
getting serious medical procedures done without their parents involvement, and
we taking a tattoo, So maybe you shouldn't be able
to get a risky printal or a risky medical procedure done,

(02:14:39):
and with the absolute you know, onslaught of child sex
trafficking that we suffered under over the last four years.
This is going on all over the place, so we
need to get busy protecting our children.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
Yeah, I share your perspective on that, although I can
perceive that some people out there clutching their pearls over
oh my god, Well what about you people who are
in families whose homes don't approve of abortion, or are
oppressive or mean or otherwise in an abusive situation. We
can't have our children being forced to consult their parents
in those times. But you know, I pivot her in thinking.
You know, if you're a child, a young person, an

(02:15:14):
underage person, and you're pregnant, that's probably the time when
you need your parents the most for comfort and support
and for assistance and making the appropriate choice guidance. I mean,
that's what parents are for, right.

Speaker 10 (02:15:26):
We've seen all kinds of plantal rights upheld of like
along those lines over the years. Parents are have religious
beliefs that don't allow they don't think it's appropriate to
receive certain kinds of medical care, denying that care to
their children. Well, that's been uphild, is the parents right exactly?
They have dominion over their children until they turn eighteen.

(02:15:49):
This is no different than that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Amen to that. Congressman David Saylor again probably representing a
House second district. Keep up the great work, David. I'll
look forward to having you back on the program soon,
and I'll keep my fingers crossed and share your optimism
about getting these appropriation both done.

Speaker 10 (02:16:05):
Always great, Brian, I'll look forward to talking again.

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
Take care of my friend. I share your your your
optimism and looking forward to the other conversations in the future.
A twenty five Right now, speaking in conversations, it's Thursday,
and I know we're having a somber day here and
it is the anniversary of nine to eleven. That's the
first topic with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, anniversary of
nine to eleven? Question are we safer now than we
were then? That and several other topics. As always with

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Chuck Ingram on fifty five k RASSIN the talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
Just shy have eight thirty to fifty five kerr CD
talk station. The world keeps turning and life does go
on in spite of terrible things that happened like Charlie
Kirk's asassination yesterday. But because it's Thursday and it is
eight thirty, aviation issues still continue, and it's nice to
have a change of topic, getting away from the somber
terrible realities of yesterday, including the sumber and terrible realities

(02:17:50):
of today's anniversary of nine to eleven. First topic, Welcome back.
iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliff. I appreciate you coming
on the program.

Speaker 25 (02:17:56):
Jay, Good morning, j Bryan.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
Any comments on the before we get to nine to
eleven on Charlie Kirk and I know you were moved
by it as well as so many of my listeners.

Speaker 25 (02:18:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear a lot of people talking
about how it's worse now politically divide than that this
country has ever seen, and I never agree with that.

Speaker 9 (02:18:18):
Combat.

Speaker 25 (02:18:18):
I just finished a seven hundred page autobiography on Abraham Lincoln.
I think it was Michael Berling Game that wrote it.
Just incredible work, and it talks about different times where
the government and some of the political divide was so deep,
so severe, so violent that you had newspapers calling for
the assassination of political figures. So at least we're not

(02:18:41):
at that point, but you know, it's it's certainly bad.
But you know, one of the things that we have
is the wonderful thing called free speech. And you know,
there are people that disagree and you know, when you
start talking about things that happen and it leads to
people taking violent actions, it's just just makes you sick.

(02:19:01):
But you can't tell people to not continue to speak,
either in ways you appreciate or ways that you do not,
because that's what this country is all about. And I
just hope that there's people to pick up the mantle
and continue what Charlie and his team were doing, because
when you're talking about investing in the lives of the youth,

(02:19:22):
which they were doing at college campuses and other places,
they were investing in the future of this country. And
I really hope that people who tried to snuff him
out for whatever the reason it was, and we still
don't know what that reason was, that more people say
step up and say, look, I'll carry I'll carry the
torch because people have to continue doing what was started.

(02:19:43):
Because you talk about something that was unthinkable as far
as President Trump picking up the youth vote in a
lot of places around the country. That was because of
the Charlie Kirks the of the world that made that possible.
And you certainly want that to continue because those are
the people that are going to be taking care of
our kids. And our kids' kids as far as leading

(02:20:05):
this country, and we need them to be ones that
love this country and that recognize it for the great place.

Speaker 15 (02:20:11):
That it is.

Speaker 1 (02:20:12):
Amen to that without question. So well, another data, Remember
twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven. We all know
what crazy fundamental is people can do in the name
of their faith and ideology, and of course we have
that fresh in our memories in spite of the fact
it was twenty four years ago. Question, Jay Rayliffe. I
know you're an aviation expert. So in the area of aviation,

(02:20:34):
are we safer now than we were back then?

Speaker 25 (02:20:36):
We are, and a lot of people try to suggest
to me that that we're not. And I'm like, well,
what I would agree with you if you're right, but
you're not. Before nine to eleven, we weren't screening any
check luggage and did the United States domestically. That was
a huge, huge issue. Anytime a plane would crash, we
would be scared to death. At another ten, we're going

(02:20:56):
to follow this guy. When the FBI and the FAA
were updating us monthly on the threat Bin loaded and
made the commercial aviation we feared for explosives in check
luggage we feared for surfaced air missiles. We had a
lot of other contingencies that we were planning for and
trying to be ready to respond to. At no point

(02:21:17):
in time did we envision the attacks as they were.
And of course, the minute the second plane hit, we
knew we were under attack. We knew it was Ben Laden,
and we knew other planes would be involved. And that's
when Ben Sliney comes in. Ben Sliney was the director
of the FAA. He was the national Operations Manager at
the time that was in charge, and when we knew

(02:21:40):
we were under attack and other planes would be involved,
he made the unprecedented decision to ground every airplane immediately,
telling his air traffic controllers around the country, whatever airplanes
you're working with, get him on the ground now, because
we've got to remove the threat. And then we knew
any planes that remained in the air were possibly hot
still targets, so we had to get every plane on

(02:22:02):
the ground. So he made that call. They never rehearsed
for this, never and all of these air traffic controllers
had to do their best and they did a perfect
job of getting every aircraft on the ground and been slimy.
Brian it was his first day on the job when
he made that call, and it was it was the
call to make. And yeah, and again at a lot

(02:22:27):
of heroes on that day, and too many to speak of,
but we never want to forget, and I refuse to
let this day ever arrive without thinking about the people
that were responsible for a that day and people that
have kept us safe since.

Speaker 1 (02:22:42):
We'll talk about baptism by fire.

Speaker 25 (02:22:44):
On that job, Jay, Yeah, and a lot of people
would have been very hesitant, lacking the confidence to make
that kind of unprecedented you want us to do?

Speaker 8 (02:22:52):
What call?

Speaker 25 (02:22:54):
But he did it because he knew, Look, we don't
know how many planes are involved, so let's get everything
out of the sky now. And I had friends that
were on planes that were getting a hold of you
that day from around the country, that were stranded in
different places in New York and on the West Coast
and different things, because nothing moved for four days after that,
because the aviation world commercially was grounded at that point

(02:23:18):
in time. So yeah, to do that as he did it,
it was something. But you know, one of the reasons
aviation has always been a target for terrorists. One it
gets incredible public relations type thing where people are watching.
The problem also is that you have a situation where
you have the economic impact, the adverse economic impact that

(02:23:41):
takes place when you have an attack as you do.
So that's one of the reasons that aviation has always
been a target for terrorists because you get the attention,
you try to generate the fear, and it impacts the
pocketbook of America, so to speak. And it took us
months and months and months to recover economically from the
four days that that economic engine.

Speaker 1 (02:24:01):
Was you know, shut down, no question about it. Let's pause,
We'll bring Jay Ratlift back a few other things to
talk with them about aviation issues. Today. It's eight thirty six,
right now, be.

Speaker 12 (02:24:11):
Right back fifty five KRC Shiva.

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Forty fifty five AIRCD Talks Nation Tech Friday with Dave
Hatter every Friday at six thirty and every Thursday beginning
at eight thirty. iHeart meaty aviation expert Jay ra Atlift
pivoting away from nine to eleven and thankfully we are
safe for now. FAA refusing to lift the seven thirty
seven production limit on Boeing. What's that all about?

Speaker 25 (02:24:35):
Well, it goes back to the two Boeing Max crashes.
It took place, and you know, as the situation you know,
kind of unfurled, we could see that Boeing was in
essence holding a lot of things, you know, they were
withholding a lot of facts from the FAA, airlines, pilots,
things of this nature.

Speaker 1 (02:24:55):
This is the software upgrade that they didn't tell any
pilots about which took over control of the air plane,
and they reacted wrong because they didn't know the software
had been updated to make it react differently.

Speaker 25 (02:25:05):
Yeah, that in the fact that they didn't have it
even in the emergency reference manual for when it malfunctioned
what the crew was supposed to do. I mean, they
were totally in the dark. What happened was that following
those two Max crashes, the FAA put Boeing on a slowdown.
They capped a number of seven thirty seven Max aircraft
that they could make in a month at thirty eight. Now,

(02:25:27):
recently Boeing, since they've had that limit for a while,
they've asked Boeing to increase excuse me, they've asked the
FAA Boeing has to increase that number from thirty eight
planes a month to forty two, but right now the
Federal Aviation Administration has yet to kind of grant approval
and I'm glad for that now. Ultimately, Boeing wants to
get it to fifty two planes seven thirty seven maxes

(02:25:50):
a month because they're obviously trying to address backlog issues.
They've got five to six thousand planes on backlog, plus
they're obviously trying to better compete with air US, who's
you know, kind of been grabbing the orders for quite
quite a while here. But right now the FA is saying, look,
there's still some things we've got to see, and I'm
glad to see that kind of oversight from the Federal

(02:26:13):
Aviation Administration on Boeing, And look, they've got to prove
Boeing does that they have turned the corner that they're
not going to repeat some of the craft they did
before because they said five years ago, we've learned our
lesson things are going to get better. Then what happens
then you have the door plug drop off that last
airline's flight last January year ago, where it was obvious

(02:26:35):
Boeing was doing not only what they were doing before,
rushing things, but it perhaps was even worse. So we
get a long way to go before I'm going to
be convinced that Boeing has learned their lesson. But we'll
have to wait and see. But you know, right now,
the Boeing Max aircraft are still being limited to just
thirty eight a month, and we'll see how much longer

(02:26:55):
that continues.

Speaker 1 (02:26:56):
What amazes me in that entire discussion analysis and I
appreciate that that Boeing is so far behind in production
of the airplanes. I mean, if you put an order
in today, how many years is it going to be
for order for Boeing could deliver an airplane. I mean
they haven't delivered on the presidential airplane. That thing got
ordered what fifteen years ago or something.

Speaker 2 (02:27:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (02:27:16):
Well, and actually President Trump in his first term ordered
that airplane and he said, hey, I'll make a deal
with you. We'll buy two if we can get a
discounted price. And he did, remember this guy the art
of the deal, right, yes, oh, yes, that's what he's doing.
But it was negotiated at such a price and Boeing
agreed to it, those dummies, and it is so far

(02:27:37):
over cost right now, over budget. Bowen's got to deliver
and the government that can sit back with their hands
folded saying, yeah, it's going to be delayed, give us
our aircraft, but we're getting at an unbelievable discount. He
saved the American people a great deal of money. Now
you certainly hope it's not going to be rushed and
then it's going to have issues like some of these
other plays have had. But yeah, we're eventually going to

(02:28:00):
have it. But also remember, Boeing's got a number of
strike employees on strike right now that are part of
the defense side of things. That's going on six seven
weeks now, So Boeing has that headache. They're still addressing
as well, and there's a great deal of pressure for
that to take place. But right now, Boeing has headaches
on multiple levels right now. And you hope they can

(02:28:22):
get things turned around, straightened out. And I'll tell you
in two or three years, my friend, if we can
look back and say, yep, Boeing's turned the corner. Because
I tell you what, I was an idiot to believe
them five years ago when they said they were going
to change. I'm not going to do that again.

Speaker 1 (02:28:35):
Yeah, well, how's the market reacting to that? I haven't
followed Boeing stock in a long time, and I know
it went into the toilet after nine to eleven and
something to be it was under one.

Speaker 25 (02:28:45):
Hundred dollars a share. And you know what's happened now
is it's obviously rebounding quite a bit. It's ut I
think two twenty eight is what we've seen of late.
It's actually been improving quite a bit over the last
you know, six months or so, when it was one
hundred and forty five dollars a share, so back in
April May of last year or this year, and has

(02:29:05):
increased quite a bit just in the last six months.
So they're on an upward trend and they obviously want
that to continue.

Speaker 8 (02:29:13):
Now.

Speaker 25 (02:29:13):
When the Boeing Max crashes happened, I think the stock
was at three fifty three sixty five or so, so
it's come quite a bit down since then. But of
late Boeing has been kind of on the uptick.

Speaker 8 (02:29:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:29:24):
And you know, just before we park copy go to
another break and we'll come back and we'll talk about
the war of words between United and Spirit and get
our hub delays. I find it interesting a mark of
phenomenon that Boeing stock has improved that dramatically since its
low point. Just because of all the problems you just outlined.

Speaker 25 (02:29:42):
People seem to think, well, a couple of things. You're
Boeing and how many people build airplanes. You have Boeing
and Airbus that have the market share. You also have
Bombardier in Canada that you have embry Air in South America,
and you have Comac, a Chinese manufacturer that g theme
in Asia. But those are the two main people. Airbus

(02:30:04):
has an incredible backlog of seven or eight thousand planes.
Oh okay, Boeing has a huge backlog. So the thought is, okay,
let's buy plus Boeing.

Speaker 10 (02:30:13):
Think of it.

Speaker 25 (02:30:14):
If I'm going to go get a deal on an airplane,
who is the company that's in the worst spot to
negotiate from a position to strength Boeing. Yeah, so I
can go there and probably hammer at a pretty good discount.
And if it's five or six years where I get
my planes.

Speaker 1 (02:30:28):
I am okay, all right, fair enough.

Speaker 25 (02:30:31):
It's going to be that long for air Bus. It's
going to take you four or five years or at
least to get the Airbus airplane. So yeah, you know,
what's an extra couple of years?

Speaker 1 (02:30:39):
Fair enough? Lading, the complex market forces that exist in
the world, blowing it down to simple terms. Jay Ratliff,
we'll bring it back. We'll talk hub delays and what's
going on between United and the Spirit. Be right back
after these brief words.

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Speaker 1 (02:31:45):
Hey forty nine fifty five ko C DE talk station
Bright Thomas with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Rattl a few
segments with him every Thursday. I always enjoy the back
and forth, Jay, and appreciate you coming on the show.
Pivoting over United and Spirit. We got war of words apparently.

Speaker 25 (02:32:04):
Well yeah, I mean United is saying that. You know,
this is the CEO of United speaking. He was asked
about Spirit Airlines and the problems they've been having and
his response was, well, it was an interesting, this low
cost attempt, but it was obviously a failed experiment. That's
what he called as the CEO for United Spirit. Well,

(02:32:27):
the CEO for Spirit kind of fired back, saying, look,
we're not finished yet, and they're trying to rally the
troops because you know, we've talked about it. They filed
for their second chapter eleven in less than a year,
and right now they're doing everything that they can, adjusting routes,
laying off excess personnel to survive. So I'm not going
to count Spirit out quite yet.

Speaker 10 (02:32:47):
Now.

Speaker 25 (02:32:48):
If I was sitting and I am not in the
headquarters of you know, Spirit, I'm saying, hey, we've got
some new numbers that might add a little fun to
the conversation. We've got the August on time performance numbers.
As far as who had the best on time performance
in the month of August, Delta took top spots at

(02:33:09):
eighty four percent. Do you know who is in second?

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
Spirit?

Speaker 25 (02:33:13):
Second place was Spirit Airlines. United was in fourth. So
if I'm the CEO and be like, hey, pal, if
you're so good, how come we've got a better on
time performance. Now there's another column on completion factor is
the number of flights that you complete. They may have
been delayed, but you got everybody to their destination. That

(02:33:34):
is a huge number in aviation. The best airline with
the best completion factor was Spirit at ninety nine point
eight percent. Wow, United was down in like they were
ninety eight percent. So again Spirit took top honors there.
Now I have to say this because I'm gonna get
emails from people saying, Jay, you can't compare Spirit to

(02:33:55):
Delta United because Delton United had like one hundred and
fifty thousand flights and Spirit I had twenty thousand. Well,
I'm not gonna let the facts interfere with a really
cool story. So I'm gonna say Spirit kicked United buff.

Speaker 1 (02:34:09):
Well with twenty thousand flights on Spirit side, I mean,
I think you're within statistical standpoints to say that they
did a better job in spite of them.

Speaker 25 (02:34:15):
Even if they didn't, I'm gonna have fun with it.

Speaker 9 (02:34:17):
So yeah, Spirit did better.

Speaker 25 (02:34:18):
But it's I'm hoping they use it now. Spirit sent
me some pretty we don't like you emails over the
years because I've talked about them with what they do,
and some of the people in their PR department just
don't have a sense of humor because they have gone
after me big time. I mean, you're talking six paragraphs
of how I don't know what I'm talking about, but yeah,

(02:34:39):
that's fine. Over the last few years, they've tried to
turn it around. I think they're trying to do it
now and I'm actually on their side. They may not
believe that, but hey, I take these August numbers. This
is bulletin board material.

Speaker 1 (02:34:51):
Amen. All right, Billy always end on hub delays. How's
it looking out there? For the listeners are going to
be flying.

Speaker 25 (02:34:56):
We need good news, Brian, especially on a day like today,
So I'm gonna try to give it to you with
minimal hub delays. Had some issues earlier in Washington, d C.
They are gone all the celebrations, the memories. In New York,
it looks like you're gonna have a great weather day.

Speaker 2 (02:35:09):
There.

Speaker 25 (02:35:10):
Don't really have any hub delays that I can see
across the country for the bulk of the day, other
than maybe Central to southern Florida. I think they're going
to be minimal twenty minute delays at that It's going
to be a beautiful and a well deserved day for travel.

Speaker 1 (02:35:23):
Well, at least we have some good news on it,
very very somber day, Jay rattlif God bless you. Appreciate
you coming on the show every week and sharing your
stories with us, and I'll look forward to next Thursday
another edition of your media iHeartMedia Aviation Report, and I
hope you and your beautiful bride have a wonderful, wonderful week.

Speaker 25 (02:35:41):
Brian, I appreciate it, but I very much appreciate you
being there on a day like today, with the job
you and you and Joe do, a lot of people
needed it, and you know, on my behalf selfishly, I
appreciate everything you're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:35:52):
Oh, thank you very much. I really really appreciate that. Jay,
take care of my friend. Ay fifty four fifty five
K City Talk Station. I'm going to go ahead and
read it again. Penn Blackwell on Charlie Kirk's assassination to
demand murder Charlie Kirk, you may think you struck a
blow against a man you disagreed with. You may think
your cowardly act somehow silenced him. But let's make this
very clear. You failed. You failed because truth does not

(02:36:14):
die with a bullet. Principles do not bleed out in
the street, and a movement built on conviction is not
so fragile that one violent act can scatter it. You
prove something you never intended to prove, that Charlie's words
were powerful enough to terrify you. You feared him not
because he carried a weapon, because he carried ideas that
cut deeper than any weapon you could have ever wheeled.

(02:36:34):
You fear the light he carried because it exposed the
darkness that you live in. You thought you could erase
his influence, instead you underlined it. You thought you could
end his mission, instead you multiplied it. You thought you
could make us afraid, instead you made us stronger. History
is filled with cowards who hid behind violence when they
could get could not win with reason. Every tyrant who

(02:36:55):
jailed in the center, every fanatic who silenced the prophet,
every assassin who tried to erase the leader, they all
shared the same delusion that killing a messenger kills the message.
Time has proven them all wrong, and time will prove
you wrong too, Because Charlie's fight is not just his,
it's ours, and now burns brighter than ever. His family,
his friends, his countless supporters across this country, we carry

(02:37:18):
his torch. You cannot put it out. You cannot stop
what has already taken root in the hearts of millions.
You wanted to silence a man, instead you gave voice
to a generation. You wanted to stop a movement, instead
you set it on fire. You wanted to strike fear.
Instead you revealed your own. We are not afraid of you.
We are not backing down. We're not surrendering our beliefs,

(02:37:39):
or principles or our courage. So remember this. When you
hit in the shadows and pulled the trigger, you did
not prove strength. You proved weakness. You didn't end the mission,
You gave it a new meeting, and you did not
stop Charlie Kirk. You made sure his message will echo
far louder than it ever has before. Charlie's fight is
our fight, His cause is our cause, and we carry

(02:38:02):
it forward with even more determination, more resolve, and more
unshakable faith than ever before. You failed, and we will
never fail him. Ken Blackwell, brilliant. Thank you so much
for penning that message. Let's follow through with it. Congressman
David's was on. We heard from Jack Atherton on the assassination.

(02:38:24):
We heard from Congressman Davidson, Alex Treanzafilo, Charles Tassel in
studio talking about well his position in the Trump administration
with the USDA. He's Ohio State's a USDA guy now
over in the Rural Development Division. And he talked about
the street rescue. Let's get those guns, those rental guns
off the street. Informations at fifty five KRC dot com.

(02:38:47):
Congressman David Taylor on Charlie Kirk and the Child Interstate
Abortion Notification Act, and of course Jay Ratliff. It's all
fifty five KRC dot com. Thank you Joe Strecker for
producing the program. Folks, hug the ones you love, please
and don't go away. Glenbeck's coming up.

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