55KRC Thursday Show - Jack Windsor, State Rep Jennifer Gross, Jay Ratliff

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Five oh five. But if you're not k r C
the talk station Friday eight years.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Some say.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
A vacation and that's the way.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
The news going it is, And wow, am I surrounded
by a lot of news. Not that today is any
different than the other day. Happy uh Friday Eve. Brian
Thomas here inviting phone calls. There has always five one three,
seven hundred eighty two to three talk or found five
fifty on your AT and T phones. Uh, coming up
with fifty five krcy morgans you one hour from now
six oh five with Jack Windsor, editor in chief of

(00:53):
the IOH Press Network and host of The Windsor Report.
We're gonna be talking with Jack about medicaid fraud here
in the state of Ohio. He's been following that issue
very closely in his capacity as an investigative reporter for
the Windsor Report. It's got a lot of information on it,
and none of it is pretty I think we will
be given a pretty clear picture of gross incompetence here

(01:16):
in the state of OKAIOA when it comes to the waste,
fraud and abuse going on to medicaid to the tune
of about six billion dollars. Yeah, on that topic as well,
coming in at seven thirty for a full hour. Ohio
State Representative District forty five's Jennifer Gross. She's on the

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Medicaid board, so she probably has some answers to the
questions and issues raised by Jack Windsor in the prior
segment and one of the few Republicans that didn't vote
for the budget. And of course it being Thursday, I
heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. We had a topic
list that could last us an hour and a half
with Jay today. So that's as I view that as
a wonderful thing. I really enjoy our exchange every Thursday.

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Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty eight hundred eight
two three talk you care to call? Real quick word?
Thank you to everyone that made it to Mattrie yesterday
at Summit Park. What a cool location, free flictening to Matrie.
It's a brand new facility, It's huge, and the beer
is great. I knew the beer would be great because
I'm a big fan of Mattree anyway, but wow, great surroundings,
plenty of room, the food was great, the festivities, the fellowship,

(02:22):
everything was fun. If you were there, I hope you
had a good time, at least as good a time
as I did. I try to make the rounds and
interact with everybody. I'm not quite sure I was able
to talk to everybody, but I try. And it was
great seeing some new folks there. Every listener months we
get some folks who've never been and always enjoy when
when new people stop by. So great seeing everyone, and

(02:45):
it's three in a row for me with cribbage Mike,
I beat him yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh that was fun.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And thank you to his grandson who roots for me,
although he did look a little bored. Garbage of Mike.
If you're out there, I really enjoyed. It's the great
seeing you and your better half as well as your grandson. Anyhow,
all the things going on in the world, you got
the battle between now Elon Musky and Donald Trump. Donald

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Trump not happy with Elon Musk, who's against the Big
beautiful Bill because it spends two damn months. Donald Trump
wants to eliminate the debt ceiling completely, scrap it. I'm
not thrilled with that push. Personally. We spend too much,

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and at least it access some sort of check on
government spending, not an effective one. I might add, but
our elected officials don't like to vote to increase the
dead ceiling because it puts them on paper, makes them
they have to stare at themselves in the mirror every
morning and say, yeah, we spend too much, and now
we don't even have a dead ceiling to sort of

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prevent us from spending beyond our means. I wanted to
start here in the state of Ohio with property taxes.
Props to Paula Christian over DoD CPO for reporting on
an issue that's going to impact every homeowner out there.
You'all happy with the most recent tax increase, property tax
increase that we went through. A lot of people got

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what thirty percent increase, many people ten, making homes even
very make some photos unaffordable for like seniors for example,
who are on fixedups. You end up getting like an
eight thousand dollars property tax, Like wha, what in the
hell where did that come from? And you got to
find the means and resources to pay it? And guess

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what bad news is coming our way? Property taxes across
all all operative word in the sentence, all Ohio counties
could increase as much as twenty five percent over the
next few years. That is, Oh, I know, Joe, thank
you for the appropriately time sound effect. That is, unless
date lawmakers approved dramatic reform by late June. That the

(05:00):
warning from Matt Dolan or Matt Nolan rather apologies Matt
Matt Nolan, president of the County Auditors Association also Warren
County Auditor, quoted as saying, you have to call your
legislators and frankly, it has to happen now. The more
you can reach out to them and say this is
my number one issue. This is going to shift my

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vote if you don't do something on this that has
an impact. And you know he's right about that. Every
politician I talk to there's very little outreach from the
electorate out there. I mean, they're your people, They're supposed
to represent your interests, and very few people will take
the time to reach out to them by way of
sending a letter, sending an email, picking up the phone

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and call in the office and expressing your frustration over
any given issue. But the more that happens, you get
a week when a whole bunch of people call in
on the same topic demanding the same thing, they tend
to sit up and take notice. Wow, We normally only
get a couple of calls a week. How is it
that we ended up getting inundated with phone calls on this?
So do it. It does have an impact. Uh, Corn

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and Nolan, You're going to see what you saw in
your last year in Hamilton County happen again. You're going
to see a twenty five to thirty percent value increase
wherever you live. Claremont, Butler, Warren, You're going to see
that level of value increase, and if you're going to
see your taxes go up by a similar amount. And
almost every school district in that area is going to
be at the twenty mill floor, so they're going to

(06:30):
experience the largest property tax increase they've ever experienced. Yeah,
my sentiments exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Joe.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
He tested at the Ohio Senate Finance Committee last week,
urging lawmakers to expand the homestead exemption program, cap how
much school districts can get from property taxes, and stop
a non business tax credit reward for out of state
companies that buy up properties to rent out. I will
call them absentee landlord words. Now, the last round of

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massive increases created this grassroots group that's out collecting signatures
to put a constitutional amendment on November ballots who eliminate
property taxes altogether, raising a whole lot of questions about
how things would be funded, something that Pierce Township Trustee
Alan Freeman noted in being interviewed by CPO on this.

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I mean he said that property tax is how we
fund police, fire road repairs, any number of township services.
If you get rid of property taxes completely, they're not
going to be able to respond to a nine to
one one call. Would it be that dire or could
they come up with a different funding mechanism. I'm not
putting the blame at Alan Freeman's lap, but he's pointing
out something that is a practical reality. Nolan said, it

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used to be the values went up and rates came down,
and your taxes really didn't go up that much. That's
all changed. Now you're seeing values go up double digits,
almost twenty percent. This cycling. To be honest, I don't
see that changing anytime soon. Hamilton County is going to
go through a reevaluation next year. We'll go through one,
and I think it's going to be very similar numbers

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twenty five thirty percent value increases and twenty percent tax
increases and we can't sustain that. I think the we
he's referring to is the homeowner concerned about homeowners being
so overburdened with high property taxes which do fund school districts,
primarily that they'll reject new levees for police and fire services,

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which is already happening. They point out in the article
about Pierce Township overwhelmingly shot down the police levee in May.
I understand what they're saying, he said. They're saying, I've
been taxed enough. I can't afford to do any more.
But I don't know how to put I put a
police force out without that levee, said the trustee. Freeman

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any pointed up township is going to put that levee
back in the ballot in November.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
We're gonna have to. There's no choice.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
The sentence version of the budget that was released this
or this past Tuesday, does have some proposals aimed at
property tax relief, but both Nolan and Freeman said it's
just not enough, calling them good minor steps. He said,
I hope the Conference Committee looks at real relief for
tax payers. What's including the Senate budget gives no real

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immediate relief to anyone. It only kicks the can a
little down the road for future increases. So gird your loins, folks.
I don't know I have any tea leaf readers out
in my listening audience that want to opine as to
whether or not the Senate might.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Provide real relief.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Whether that's going to go through, But in the meantime,
you might want to start stockpiling some additional money to
cover the additional presumably twenty percent increase you're going to
see in your property tax coming up soon. Geez, it
is unsustainable. But you know what, moving away from property taxes,

(10:12):
I think we'd get taxed enough. Maybe we've got a
spending problem, and I don't know. We found out they
had four point seven billion dollars in unclaimed fund in
the state of Ohio, from which they pulled six hundred
million dollars to give to the Cleveland Browns Complex. Is
there any way that can apply the rest of the
four point seven balance to maybe providing us some relief

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from our property taxes. I don't know how that would work,
the devils and the details, But as of right now,
all I can say is brace yourself five sixteen fifty
five krs the talk station. We've got plenty more of

(10:57):
talk about coming up. I love to hear from you.
If you've got a the meantime hang out of you
right back. Can't roll it out, it may rain, which
also suggests it may not well the forecast ever right,

(11:22):
you guess say occasionally get it right. It seems like
a cosmic crapshoot, whether you can rely on it or not. Anyway,
two kind of related stories. First to go to Arizona,
where a Democratic Governor, Katie Hobbes veto to bill that
would prevent China from buying up land next to strategic
sites like military bases.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Sent up.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Minority leader there Denay Shamp said the politically motivated veto
utterly insane, and calling the governor an obstructionist against safeguarding
our citizens from threats. Governor Hobbs, for her part, said
the Senate Bill eleven oh nine was ineffective at counter
espionage and did not directly protect American military assets. Everybody's

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got some concern. It's Manna's all kinds of bills out there.
According to the Chinese focused nonprofit, twenty seven states currently
considering eighty four bills aimed at restricting foreign property ownership
in some way. Congress also considering seven separate bills addressing
the same issue. Twenty two states have already passed bills

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restricting foreign property ownership, seventeen to which were passed in
just county year twenty twenty four. So this is just
one among many people have concerns about that CEO and
founder of a state armor action. A guy named Michael
Lucci quoted is saying Governor Hobbs veto this bill, hangs
and open for the CCP sign under Arizona's front door,
allowing communists China to buy up land near critical assets

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like Luke Air Force Base, Palo Verdi Nuclear Power plant
in Taiwan, semi conductors, growing fabrication footprint, he said, Allowing
communists China to buy up land your critical assets as
a national security risk plane in simplel Governor Hobbs is
substantly and completely wrong when she says this bill is
ineffective at counter espionage and does not directly protect our

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military basis. And of course everyone I'm imagining is thinking
immediately of Ukraine's recent drone attacks, moving drones in close
proximity to the air bases where this Russian aircraft were
located made it easy for them to actually hit their targets,
giving Russia literally no time at all to shoot down
the drones. Look, it's right there. That's a concern. I

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think it's a legitimate one. And in not related news,
but sort of kind of related news, this was scary.
Two Chinese nationals charge was smuggling a pathogen into the
United States. Cash Mattel said, this case is a sobering
reminder that the CCP is working around the clock to

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open to deploy operatives and research to infiltrate American institutions
and target our food supply, which could have grave consequences,
putting American lives and our economy at serious risk. Charges
foul against Jian Yung Queen and Lou Jiang Xiangyong close enough.
According to the complaint. Lee researcher currently in China, applied

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for a B two VSA in March last year, brought
the pathogen a fungus known as Fusarium garminarium into the
United States. Gordon Patel this pathogen is an agro terrorism agent,
his words, and the fungus can cause head blight, a
disease that can devastate wheat, barley, maize, rice and cause

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health problems in humans and livestock. The other guy charged John,
a postdoctoral research fellow at the Molecular Plant Microbe Interaction
Laboratory at the University of Mission, offered her a fellowship
position in twenty three. According to complaint, she also applied

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for a visa a Jay one visa. FBI agents found
an electronic document in John's cell phone describing her membership
and loyalty to the Chinese Communist Party to charge with
visa fraud, conspiracy, making false statements, and smuggling goods into
the United States corner cash retellent statement. Smuggling a known

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agro terrorism agent into the United States is not just
a violation of law, it's a direct threat to national security.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Senator Ashley Moody, member the Senate Committee on Homeland Security
and Government Affairs, sits on the House Appropriations Committee, said
this case highlights the need to pass their legislation. It's
a CENTERPILD ten eighty six and House Resolution twenty one
to forty seven, the stop CCP Visa's Act body on AX.

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This is insane. These ccpeeling foreign nationals are weaponizing student
visas in attempt to poison our country again again, all
in caps with dual exclamation points. It's time to pass
the Stop Ccpvisa Act is now. That legislation would amend
the Immigration of Nationality Act to banned the admission of
Chinese nationals as non immigrant students. And of course that

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comes along the heels of Donald Trump banning travel to
the United States from several countries in order to stop
foreign dangerous foreign actors from showing up. Why those countries
either refuse to cooperate with US in terms of identifying
the individuals or have no mechanism to identify them background checks, etc.
They also are high risk terrorism countries Afghanistan, Iran, Somalia, Lilia, Yamen,

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all deemed very high risk, also of Venezuela, Cuban lawos
partial restrictions and referred to as common sense. Press Secretary
Abigail Jackson saying these are re restrictions, common sense and
targeted at countries that, in her words, lack proper vetting,
exhibit high visa overstay rates, or fail to share identity

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and threat information. At least someone's aware of a problem.
In trying to do something about it, five twenty six.
Right now fifty five ks of the talk station. Oh, Scott,
I do see that you are on the call screen.
If you don't mind holding, I will take your call
right after the quick break here.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Fifty five KRC the talk station. In this week's Marketers.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Procation, it is five twenty nine and a happy Friday
eve to you.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Eightwo to three talk.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I had a couple of callers online. I promised Scott
he'd be first. Scott, thanks for calling and holding over
the break. It's good to hear from you today.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Hey, good morning, Brian. We were down to listeners lunch
yesterday and had a great time. Like my wife and
I is like our third one we've been to. We're
from up north.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Around Greenville, Ohio.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
But we were blessed just to be able to sit
and have lunch with Mississippi James and his wife.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
He's a good guyn't Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
He is.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
We just enjoyed our time, you know, all day long
with him, and he just wanted to give him a
shout out, and it was just nice to meet someone
like him. You hear him on the phone every day
almost it seems like and then you get to meet
him and it was nice. We had a really nice time.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
See you made a friend, isn't that great? That's why
I love listening lunches. And there are tables of people
there and you probably could spot a big table with
the city and you know, they all sit together and
they've been doing that for years, and it just warms
my heart to know and that I was able through
these lunches to facilitate the formation of friendship. So it's
just it's awesome and I'm glad you're able to talk.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
The Times sub Marine and Mike again too. That was
you were just getting ready to You were just getting
ready to play cribbage with him.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And I beat him. Yeah, that's three in a row,
Scott in a row, Three in a row about a roll.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Well, just want to shout out. So we had a
great time. Hey, I'll get off there.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Thanks a lot, next man, maybe I'll see it another
one down the road. We're waiting for confirmation. I did
not have and I still don't have absolute confirmation, but
as of right now, all signs are indicating we are
going to be at Wandering Monsters Brewery and they have
a nice menu there as well. But I'll confirm it
and let everybody know as we get a little bit closer,

(19:32):
and we're gonna have it not on the second of
July because of the Independence Day holiday two days later.
We're going to kick it to the following Wednesday. And
I'll be sure and emphasize that regularly as we get
closer to the next listener launch. Great hearing from me, man,
I'm glad you're able to make it. Tom Good morning,
welcome to the fifty five KC Morning Show.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
My friend, Yeah, good good morning, and my lovely bride
is up this morning, and you kicked the hornets mass
with this whole property tax U. Oh yeah, she sees
all sees all work. This is this is one of
her You know, everybody's got two or three subjects that
you know what. Don't bring this up around so and so,

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because if you do, you're not going to hear the
end of it. That one of those from my wife
is the property tax issue. And you know it bugs
me too, but I'll I'll blurt down a couple of
exploders and move on. But oh, this this just launches
her into a tire rade, and rightfully so, because I mean,
this is absolutely ridiculous. How they can just randomly whatever

(20:33):
they feel like it raise the value of your property.
I mean, you think, think about that. These these people
are just going to arbitrarily raise how valuable your property
is so that the tax they put on it is more.
I just I find that to be stunning.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Frankly, Now, I will tell you Tom that you know
I because like, for example, Dusty Rhodes, who used to
be already he was at lunch yesterday and I'm thinking
of him as I say this, and I know he's retired,
but he would argue that, no, it's based upon the
market valuation. And like the next door neighbors sold their
house and they sold it for one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars more than they bought it for, and they

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use that to compare the value of your house. Same size,
same shape, same number of square feet. They look at
geographic sales and they determine property values and then come
up with what they believe to be the appropriate valuation
of your property. Even though you've been there for like
two decades or three decades, as the case may be,
and it's never been sold, they can still determine what

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it's worth and so that's how they come up with
a valuation. It's not a perfect formula, and that's why
they have an appeal process. You can go in and
find your own comps and valuations and tell them that
they were wrong. But right, it's not our It's not
completely arbitrary, I guess, is the point I'm trying to make.

Speaker 8 (21:50):
Okay, well, well still, it's that's not enough knowing that
our property value is going up. That's not enough. They
got to also jack up the rate. So yeah, we're
getting We're getting hosed every which way, and I don't know,
I frankly get fluckered sometimes what can we do about it?
I mean it because I was talking to General off airs, like,

(22:10):
what happens to these people when they get elected to office?
All of a sudden, they change, they change their mindset
of how they're going to do things, and they completely
forget about your representing a group of people. You're supposed
to be representing their best interest, and all of a sudden,
as soon as you take office, that goes out the window.
That's what it seems like, and that's absolutely ridiculous, and

(22:33):
that goes we're both sides of the eyes. But obviously
especially in the left, So don't vote Democrats. Have a
great day.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Thanks Tom. Yeah, I was immediately thinking of since a
City Council and the Hyde Park Square deal, and then
I also I am thinking of the so called Big
Beautiful Bill, which doesn't go far enough to cut government spending.
The Republicans are the ones that created this. Democrats are

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one hundred percent lockstep against it, and Elon Musk was
making a decent point, this doesn't cut enough. Now some
people are saying that he's against it because it takes
away the EV credit or whatever, and I'm not quite
sure that that's one hundred percent of what it is,
considering the work he was doing over the Department of
Governmental Efficiency. But I suppose in the final analysis, if

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you can to raise the debt ceiling four or five
trillion dollars, or as Donald Trump is calling for it now,
scrapping it completely, you are giving up a fundamental principle
of what used to be Republican philosophy and platform reduced
government spending. If they would follow through with any commitment
they've ever made to the American people over the years,

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at least I wish they would do that.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
One.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
No, we're gonna stop. We're not gonna spend as much.
Never seems to happen, doesn't, So we find ourselves thirty
six coming up on thirty seven trillion dollars in the hole. Anyway,
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Speaker 9 (25:32):
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Speaker 1 (25:36):
Five forty one if IF.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Five ker City talk Station Happy Thursday. Try to make
it happy anyway and trigger warning. I'll alert you ahead
of time. I think I have stumbled upon in this
deck is stupid the all time winner of the Biggest
Issue of the Universe award. I haven't been keeping track,
but I don't think I've found anyone who is more

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deserving than this, unless, of course, this case involved eight child,
which could only make it that much worse. But this
is just, this is incomprehensible. Got a forty year old Tennessee,
Tennessee man going to be spending the rest of his
life without possibility of parole after he sadistically kidnapped a
twenty two year old woman, forced her to fatally overdose

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on a whole truckload of drugs as a part of
a what is described as sadistic, yes, indeed, revenge plan
because the victim reported that he had raped her his
days earlier our winter. This morning, La Tawayne Osborne formerly
pleaded guilty to one count of first degree murder, three
counts of attempted first degree murdered one kind of aggravated

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sexual bouty for the horrific twenty twenty four slang of
a woman named Danishka Molina Sabaja Mahia. This plea deal
ensured that he would not face trial and the possibility
of the death penalty. Knox Kinty Criminal Judge Hector Sanchez
then ordered him serve the sentence of life without possibility

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of parole in the state correctional facility. According to report
from the News, the woman Mahea April third, twenty four
report of the Knoxville Police Department that Osborne had sexually
assaulted her. She told police that a few days earlier,
she was at his house where she fell asleep after
drinking alcohol and smoking weed. Waking up partially undressed. Other

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details indicated she had been assaulted. I will not mention them.
Went to the hospital. DNA evidence reportedly confirmed that, yes, indeed,
Osborne had raped her. The night after reporting the rape,
Osborne and two others broke into her home, where they
first forced her in. Two others, a woman who was
nine months pregnant, and her boyfriend, both twenty three years old,

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into the basement. Osborne initially tried to force me he
had to execute the boyfriend, but she refused. Then he
forced her at gunpoint to snort a bag of drugs
until she passed out. Prosecutors said that after she had
passed out, Osborne forced what they described as a cocktail
of more drugs into the unconscious woman's mouth, fentanyl, cocaine, methamphetamine,

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and heroin, simultaneously using his cell phone to film the ordeal.
Osborne's alleged co conspirator's twenty one year old Marquis Ellison,
thirty two year old Edward Wilson awaiting prosecution on first
degree murder and other charges. Prosecutors said that after Osborne
first forced her to snort the drugs, the three men

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were making jokes about how long it was taking her
for her to die, before Osborne reportedly placed a bag
over her head and struck her in the face several times.
After ensuring that she was dead, the trio shot the
couple that was with her. Both amazingly survived and were able, to,
of course, testify to the crimes to investigators. During the

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home invasion, one of Osborne's alleged co conspirators actually shot
Osborne in the leg instant karma to a small degree.
He went to the local hospital for treatment, and when
question told authorities that mahe had overdosed and he was
trying to render aid when an unknown as Salem broke
into her home and shot him. Then they stole her car,

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which they later set on fire near Knoxville College. After
Osborne's arrest, investigators seized the cell phone and found images
and videos of Mehia's murder and of Osborne groping and
raping her several days earlier. I think it's a well
deserved war.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Jobe series.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
The biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies,
there's no bigger douche than you.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
You.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, it's the top, the pinnacle of Deusdom.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Good going, Deu. Your dreams have come true.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Ten times a day for the rest of his life, Joe. Anyhow,
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Speaker 1 (30:22):
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Speaker 3 (32:36):
Five fifty one fifty five KA City Talk Station. I
am very happy Thursday to you. After the top of
the our news, get some time with Jack Windsor. He
is the host of the Windsor Report and has been
following as an investigative reporter the whole situation with medicaid
in the state of Ohio. And yes, there's billions and
billions of fraud in the medicaid program. Jack after the
news on the phone right now, Jay Jay, Welcome to

(32:58):
the Morning Show. Good to hear from you this morning.

Speaker 11 (33:01):
Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey, I want to do I've
got a little bit of your conversation with Tom, and
I want to build on it about the process by
which your property tax is assessed. I live in a
call to Sack about eight houses.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
I bought the.

Speaker 11 (33:16):
Smallest house, least expensive house, and a pretty nice call
to Sack. And I am sure I've seen the houses
sell for about three four hundred thousand dollars more than
mine is worth. I'm sure that's a solid number. I
took a look at my property taxes and those of
my neighbors, and I saw that I was second highest

(33:36):
charged in that call to Sack. So I got a
hold of a tax guy, put together an assessment, said, look, I'll.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Pay the average.

Speaker 11 (33:44):
Just charge me the average. But my house is the smallest,
least fancy house in this call to Sack full of
very nice houses. It came out and took a look
and went we went through the appell process and he said, well,
the reason your taps are so much higher because it's
a single story home. I said, explain that to me.

(34:05):
I said, what's the rationale? With that, he said, well,
I put a one point five factor on a second story.
I said, then you're making my case.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
I said, so.

Speaker 11 (34:13):
Every square foot on the second floor is one point
five cents to a dollar in the first He says, yes.
I said that a second story would be much more
expensive than a first story using basic map. He says, no,
it's the point. It's point five. I said.

Speaker 8 (34:30):
He said, no, it's half.

Speaker 11 (34:31):
I said, well, then that would be point five factory.
So now I see that this thing is firaling bad.
I said, can you just give me the equation that
you use it, because I'm kind of a faction and
data guy. He said, well, he says, I use my opinion,
which is the same as facts and data.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 11 (34:46):
And I told him no, your facts and data are
are are light years away from opinion. In facts and
data are light years apart. Can you not give me
the formula? Well, my opinion is the formula. He went
back and thought about it, and shockingly, I've got a
response in the mail that says was carefully considered. Your

(35:06):
proposal to pay the mean of all those bigger houses.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
In your neighborhood rejected.

Speaker 11 (35:12):
We'd rather go with our opinion, and that's up in Springboro, Ohio,
between Springborough and Waynesville, just in case anybody's listening in
that area. That's how your taxes are being assessed.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh that's bat crap, insane, And I think that flies
in the face of the way they're supposed to conduct
the assessments, which is comparable homes in the general area,
and if yours is some smaller square feet, they should
be comparing years to the sales of homes of comparable
size in your community, not the ones on the street,
which obviously are all much larger and therefore presumably more valuable.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Correct.

Speaker 11 (35:47):
So, dunda, this is me being a public service announcement.
They do not have a standard formula.

Speaker 8 (35:53):
I'm convinced.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
Did they use some comparable to my house?

Speaker 8 (35:59):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Probably, but but.

Speaker 11 (36:01):
Compared to what other houses are on the street. There
was a there's a lot of twists and turns, And
whenever he told me his opinion or facts and data,
that's what told me. There is no map behind us,
there is no standard process. I think it depends which
guy you have and who shows up and what he
feels like that day.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
See, I'm out of my element to know about the
like if there is a lit not that you want
to go to court, but if there's some sort of
litigation where you can you know you've been denied the
reduction in property tax value. They obviously are pulling figures
from their sphincter as opposed to relying on documented calm.
So I thought they were supposed to pull out the
comparable properties that they use to assess your home, Like

(36:39):
here's the stack of the ten houses we looked at
that sold within the last year or so. Uh, and
this is what we valued it on and use it
with supportive, objective data like that as opposed to again,
some guy's random opinion. It just sounds fundamentally unfair.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
And so I just there was a board hearing.

Speaker 11 (36:59):
He said, if you would like to come down to
the board hearing and schedule that, And I don't know
if there was a fee. I think there was to
do it. And but you know, honestly, I declined after
thinking if he's if this is the guy that they hired,
he's hired by the board in fact, and opinions are bad,

(37:21):
our opinions are okay and not frowned upon. I honestly
felt at that point this is so damn broken this,
This won't even this is going to waste my time
and money to go down there and argue it. So
perhaps shame on me for not following it through. But
the process was said, damn busted, Brian. I felt like,
this is this is a complete waste of time. This
is this would be like one and standing in front

(37:41):
of a board of second graders with the second second
grade math. They're trying to convince them the factor in data.
If this guy has the job, how good can it be?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, honestly, you know, I I if you know as
your a journey, I would have recommended you gone through
the entire process, even if you're going to be out
some money. It would have a record documented. You have
other people looking and listening at what you were told.
That guy would probably be there, and I can't find
I can't imagine anyone finding that to be an appropriate

(38:11):
mechanism to evaluate the value of a property. One dude
with the random opinion about the value of the home.
It's supposed to be again based upon that's to my knowledge,
some objective criteria like comparable sales in the general neighborhood.
So I don't know, Man Bill here you go.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Jay.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Apparently, within the next year or so, according to Matt Dowan,
the County Associate Autitors Association, your property tax bill is
going to go up another twenty percent. Maybe you'll have
another shot at contesting it. And I would recommend seeing
it through the whole process to find out where it goes.
And you could probably get some local reporter to listen
in on that and report it widely to the general
public that they're pulling figures from their butt. That might

(38:54):
make the news, and you might get some satisfaction or relief,
maybe even just by threatening that. Five fifty seven fifty
five krcit the Talk Station. I know Jay's want of
Faja's favorite topic is medicaid waste and abuse here in Ohio.
And Jack Windsor, editor in chief of the Ohio Press
Network and host of The Windsor Report. We'll join the
program after the top of the our news to talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Be right back us. Happens fast, stay up to date
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Speaker 3 (39:20):
Not gonna be complicated, and it's gonna go very fast.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Fifty five KRC the Talk Station. If you're into truth,
Hey's Brian Thomas.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Please to welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show
Jack Windsor, who's editor in chief the Ohio Press Network,
host of The Windsor Report, and a bit of an
investigative reporter, and he's going to join me to offer
and you his expertise on medicaid fraud as well as
the Ohio budget. Let's dive on into medicaid fraud. Apparently
there is a ton of it going on here in
the state of Ohio, to the tune of billions of dollars.

(39:52):
I mean, we talk about budgeting and short, oh we
don't have enough funds to do this except for giving
six hundred million dollars to the Browns. But we don't
have somebody for this project or that project. But if
they would just crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse,
it would free up literally billions of dollars. What is
the current figure they estimate right now? Jack Windsor, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
Well, Brian, first of all, thank you for having me.
It's an honor to be here. And State Representative Mike
Devilla started a probe into Ohio's medicaid system and what
he found within one beneficiary population segment known as the
aged blind and disabled. If you were to extrapolate that
number out to the whole system, we're talking upwards of
six billion.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Dollars Brian, six billion dollars with a bee.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
Yep, billion with a bee. And here's how he did it.
If you don't mind, I'll dive into that real quick, please.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
He started this probe back in April, and what he
said was give me records from twenty twenty three. And
when I asked him about that, he said, because twenty
twenty three's calendar year, all of that information should be finalized, audited.
I didn't want to look at twenty twenty four because
we're so early yet in twenty twenty five. I didn't
want any excuses. I wanted to know a full year
where everything should be there for us. So he started auditing,

(41:03):
and he talked with the Hot Department of Medicaid and
of course their third party vendors. One of their third
party vendors as a company and many of us has
probably heard of, called Lexus and Nexus. He found that
in twenty twenty three, they reported that twenty nine percent
of that ABD that Aged blind and Disabled Medicaid beneficiary group,
those folks may have been ineligible and you go, okay,

(41:24):
well what does that mean. That means that they had
assets well above the threshold that would qualify them for Medicaid.
And I always remind people there's Medicare and Medicaid. Medicaid
is for people who, in my mind, we think don't
have a lot of assets, don't have a lot of resources,
and they need some assistance. And we're not just talking
a little bit, Brian. There were over four thousand people

(41:44):
who had assets between one hundred thousand and nine hundred thousand.
There were twelve people that had assets over a million
dollars on Ohio's Medicaid payment system, and that really was
what Devilla's appetite, and he said, Okay, we've really got
to start diving into this. He published the first story
at the Ohio Press Network. You can read it at
the Ohiopressnetwork dot com, and you're going to get the

(42:05):
first look here, Brian, because we're going to publish story
number two probably later today or tomorrow. But Ohio Department
of Medicaid responded to Davilla, and I'm sorry to give
you the spoiler alert. It's a lot of bureaucratic gobbledygook
that they've provided him, so his investigation continues.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I am shocked that you would get gobblygoog in response
to the hard number of reports that he uncovered.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
And that was just a sliver, Yeah, a.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Sliver of the entire medicaid population from one year, a
couple of years ago. So and I guarantee you, and
I'm sure you feel the same way, Jack Windsor that
probably things have only gotten worse, but they certainly haven't
gotten better since County.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
You're twenty twenty three.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
Well, a couple of things have happened in twenty twenty three.
If you remember, we were just coming out of COVID,
so there were people on the rolls in twenty twenty three.
They estimated about three and a half million O highlands.
Think about that, three and a half million highlands. We're
receiving medicaid payments, our populations probably just north of eleven
points or maybe close to eleven point seven million people,
So three and a half million people, that's a pretty

(43:04):
sizable number. Now, my understanding is that that that number
has been pared down a little bit because of the
pandemic era qualifications, so on and so forth. But here's
the troubling part when we looked at the lexus Nexus
number one hundred and six thousand, five hundred and forty
nine people. That was the number. And by the way,

(43:25):
lexus Nexus only audited about fifty eight percent of the
entire beneficiary population of that ADM segment, so it's just
one segment of that one hundred and six thousand Brian.
What we found in the follow up letter, this is
what we'll publish today or tomorrow, is that of those
one hundred and six thousand people flagged, only six thousand,
twenty three were disenrolled. So you go, okay, there are

(43:46):
one hundred thousand people that were flagged for having assets
well above the threshold. What in hades happened to them?
And the answer de Villa keeps getting from the Oha
Department of Medicaid is twofold. I don't know if you've
ever seen that mame of like four or five spider
men standing around. They're all pointing at each other. You
did it, you did it, you did it. It's kind
of like that. The director at the state level says, well,

(44:06):
we don't have those numbers. We can't provide that data
specifically because the Department of Job and Family services. At
the county level they take care of all of that,
and all by the way, the federal Social Security Administration
they audit the rest of it. Now, Devilla did some
digging and he found that Social Security Administration, according to
numbers that he received, only audits about eighteen percent of

(44:27):
their population. So when you start crunching those numbers together,
you go, man, I don't know if it's going to
be six billion in waste, fraud and abuse money going
out the door, but it's billions of dollars that are
being paid without proper oversight. And when you're talking about
taxpayer dollars, you're probably like me, Brian, I want to
make sure that if my money's going out the door,
that it's going to people. And I think we all

(44:48):
agree on this. The people who need it should get it.
There are people who don't need it or getting it.
That's a big problem.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Well, it's part of the big beautiful bill requiring folks
who are able bodied and not really truly qualifying for
a program it's supposed to help the disabled and and
and needy elderly folks. They're they're glombing under the system
without having to participate. I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Don't understand how we've gotten to this place. Honestly, sir,
I really don't. But going back to Lexus and Nexus,
they're able to know, they know how much money people have,
they're they're able to crunch those numbers. So when Lexus Nexus,
who you described as a third party vendor, they are
a vendor for the State of Ohio. This isn't some
random outsourced, you know, think tank entity that did some

(45:33):
separate number crunching. This is something the State of Ohio
relies upon. Correct it is.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
And let me tell you what's really weird about this.
So Lexus Nexus is actually, I guess, a subcontractor of
another third party that the state partners with. Nonetheless, at
the end of the day, our tax dollars are paying
Lexus Nexus for their service, right. And so when I
read the Department of Medicaid's letter two things, the director

(46:01):
Corcoran said, well, Lexis Nexus kind of has this wrong
and shame on them. And I'm thinking, they're your partner,
You're paying them, what are you talking about, right? And
they identified twenty nine percent is the number that I
keep going back to, and they flagged those people to
be removed. I guess my question to the Ohio Department
of Medicaid would be and I don't think that they've

(46:22):
answered it directly in any of their responses. If you're
paying Lexus Nexus to flag people that are ineligible, why
in haites are you not removing them?

Speaker 1 (46:30):
That was the follow up question.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
Yeah, why are we paying a company that'd be for
service that we're we're not following up on and we're
not putting into practice. The things that they're telling us
might be problematic.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Well crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
If you disenroll them, you send them a letter say
we've identified that you have far too much income to
qualify for Medicaid. You are hereby disenrolled or otherwise disqualified
from the program. They would have an opportunity to then.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I don't know where you got your numbers, but I
don't have that kind of money and make an argument
over it.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
Right, that's right. Well, two other stunning things I want
to make sure I unpack here. Based on my preliminary investigation.
Lexis Nexus isn't just small potatoes. This is a company.
This is stunning to me, and this might be another
story down the road. They have eighty they have access
Brian to eighty eight percent of all banking account information

(47:24):
in the country. That means if you have a name
and a social Security number, they're going to find your
bank account. And so it's not as if, like I said,
they're small potatoes and you know, they're just some podunk,
duct tape and bubblegum company in the back room. I mean,
these folks know what they're doing when they're searching for assets.
Here's the other problem. The Oha Department of Medicaid says, well,
Lexis Nexus isn't really used to qualify or disqualify people

(47:46):
because when they're identifying assets, it could include cars and
homes and trust funds, and some of those things are excluded.
And again based on my preliminary investigation, Brian, that's wrong.
Lexus and Nexus identifies cash assets. So when we say
that somebody there are four thousand people that have somewhere
between one hundred thousand to nine hundred thousand dollars in assets,

(48:08):
we're talking cash. We identify twelve people who are millionaires.
We're talking cash. So that to me is the blood
on the hands of ODM that we're going to have
to dig into and get clarity.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
On ODM which is passing the BUCKS saying it's not
their obligation to remove unqualified people from the Medicaid roles.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
Yeah, that's right, and so Devilla has said, look, I'm
going to write legislation to compel you to follow. I'm
going to open investigations because the General Assembly has oversight
authority to bring them in and question them in subpoena records.
But I think what's really going to happen because of
the way that they've talked to him and Lexus and Nexus,

(48:45):
he's probably going to hope that it heads role. I
think that we probably need to gut that department and
get new leadership that takes seriously the oversight of our
of our tax money.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
It's phenomenal to me, and you know, it's just illustrative
of the broader problem with the government generally speaking. They're
not in business. They don't need to earn the money
they take. They just take it from us, and then
they have no incentive to really follow the money trail
or keep track of our money. There's no fiduciary obligation
by elected officials or people working behind the scenes over
at ODM.

Speaker 7 (49:16):
That's right, and I think there are about seven hundred employees,
Brian and I think probably the third follow up report
we do, we're gonna let everybody to know how much
money they make. I think people are going to be
appalled at the money that these folks make. If you're
doing your job, that's one thing. But if you have
potentially even if it's two billion, because that's what Lexisnexus
said just in that one segment in twenty twenty three,

(49:37):
we've identified two point two billion, and you extrapolate that
over everything at six billion, you have seven hundred people
that can't audit six billion dollars worth of cash payments.
You're doing it wrong.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yes, you are six thousand stacks of a million dollars
we're talking about here. It's just the amount of money
is amazing. And all right, Well, this story is going
to continue, and it's got legs for sure, and I
sure hope that they're successful in writing this ship and
for the sake of the American tax payer. Let's pivot
over to the IHIO budget. I know the Sentence proposal

(50:08):
came out with a two point seventy five percent flat
tax and a new way of giving money to the
Cleveland Browns in the form of just handing over money
out of this this fund that they've collected from dormant
bank accounts and uncollected assets, and like they got four
they've been sitting on four point seven billion dollars. Now
I don't know how they didn't use that money for
other purposes, but amazingly they can pull six hundred million

(50:31):
dollars out of it and handed to the Cleveland Browns
for this project. The whole concept of doing that is
it just insults me, Jack, Honestly, it really does. I
could say, how come the Bengals don't get any, but
I don't want any tax money going to the Cincin
any Bengals either. I mean, these are well healed, wealthy
development groups and owners. They if they want a six

(50:53):
hundred or multi one point two or two points, I
don't know how big this project is, but they want
it build it yourself. You know, if it's going to
generate that much tax revenue that you can get the
taxpayers of Ohio to shovel some money in because they
think it's going to generate enough revenue to pay it back,
then fine, you do it, and you take the revenue.
And I know that's just one component of the budget,
but that's the one that's gotten under my skin. It's

(51:14):
more importantly, maybe we focus on the flat tax, which
is going in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
VV.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Ramas Swimming, who I Ramaswamming, who I believe will be
our next governor. He's in favor of getting it down
to zero, so or at least moving in that direction.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
Jack, Yes, two point seventy five percent flat tax is
what we will see. And I think it's going to
be the second part of the biennium, which I think
just means twenty twenty seven. So we're going to ratchet
down one bracket and then we're going to get to
that two point seventy five percent flat tax. Now, everyone
that I talk to, the economists, the people who crunch
the numbers, say that's very attractive for industry, for businesses

(51:50):
to relocate here, because it's attractive for workers. If you say, hey,
it's Ohio has a flat tax. They have a very fair,
very simple income tax structure. That's alluring and so that's
good news to me. What I want to find out, Brian.
And by the way, you have the best in Donovan
O'Neil with Americans for prosperity. They're all over this. So

(52:10):
Donovan's a great dude, and I'm sure they have some
insight on this. I need to find out today if
there are people who don't pay income tax up to
a certain threshold, right, and so then is that two
point seventy five percent for everybody or is there still
that standard whatever it is, If you're below twenty six
thousand dollars in income, you don't pay taxes. Nonetheless, two

(52:31):
point seventy five percent flat tax is pretty attractive. Now
here's the other component that I think is really important.
You'll get it right, Many in the mainstream press won't.
We're actually spending war on education because if you read
many of the mainstream newspapers over the past month, they said,
oh my gosh, they're cutting in the education budget, and
that's government speak. They wanted eight hundred million dollars in increases.

(52:54):
They only got two hundred and sixty or two hundred
and thirty and they call that a cut. Last I checked,
increasing space two hundred million dollars is actually an increase.
But they're increasing spending six hundred and thirty three zero
point nine million dollars over the next two years. But
it's going to be merit based, so schools that have
higher performance numbers are going to have access to more

(53:15):
of that money. And then districts because there's one in
East Cleveland, for example, that have dropped in enrollment by
thirty eight percent over the past five years, and Brian,
they kept getting money, so they had fewer students. They
kept getting not only money, but more money. Well, that's
going to change. So if enrollment drops, then the amount
of money you get drops. And to your point about

(53:36):
the Cleveland Browns, Sorry if I'm going long here. I
grew up a Browns fan, which means that, you know,
I guess in some way I'm a glutton for punishment
and I'm patient, but I'm with you. I don't think
sports teams have any business taking tax payer dollars. Although
I will say this, the last person I talked to
on this said, we're not increasing taxes, We're not giving

(53:56):
them direct bonds. We're going to leverage money that's already
sitting around. They're going to put a bunch of money
in the pot. That way, if we don't meet our
return projections, the Browns will actually pony up money. So
I guess at the end of the day, it might
be the best way to finagle it. But I'm with you.
I mean, hey, I own a news outlet independently, and
I want to look at my senator and go, why

(54:18):
don't you give me money? I'm doing a public service.
I just think it's crazy when we start taking tax
payer dollars and handing it over, handing that money over
to sports teams.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Well, and the predicate it was that this whole complex
is going to generate enough revenue I guess from purchases
fifteen dollars, beer sales and everything like that to basically
pay the pay Ohio back and form of tax collection.
Literally every business out there generates revenue in the form
of income tax for the state of Ohio. They generate

(54:47):
revenue with foot traffic. If it's a restaurant, they generate
sales from the sale of food. Everybody to one of
my listeners call up the other day and say, where
does the line form for all the rest of the
businesses out there to stand and get a high I
owe taxpayer dollars for their business.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
Yeah, I caught tax cuts, Brian. That's why we've got
to be one hundred percent bullish on a flat tax.
And you know, there's going to be a lot to
I think there's there's gonna be some stuff in there
about property tax too, and making sure that schools are
very fair with how they advertise and promote their levies
and put them on the ballot. So that's good. I
know that Americans for Prosperity I mentioned Donovan earlier, they've

(55:26):
been working really hard to untangle the complex tax web
here in Ohio, so that I am excited about because
I like keeping more of my own money.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Ay Man.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Jack Winsor, editor in chief the Isio Press Network, host
of The Windsor Report on ninety eight point nine FM, Columbus.
I'm sure you can stream it. Check him out.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
It's been a pleasure having you on my show man.
Maybe we can do it again real soon.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
I'd love it. Brian, God bless you brother.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Take there have a great week to you.

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It is your chaman. I first one and one forecast.

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Today, we've got rounds of rain and showers to strong
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clouds with no rain. Tomorrow, a mostly cloudy day starting
out dry the afternoon. In the evening, showers of storms
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Six thirty one and a happy Friday to you one
hour for now. Jennifer Gross, representing District forty five House
Representative Gross in studio to talk about Medicaid. She is
on the Medicaid board. Maybe she can solve some of
the problems that we just addressed with Jack Windsor and
one of the few Ohio Republicans who didn't vote for
the budget, and since taxes are going to rise again,

(57:14):
started out the program talking about that that'd be property taxes.
Gerd you'r luins folks. Maybe we'll get a word or
two on whether we can get some relief from Columbus
on our property tax bill and pivoting over to local stories.
We'll call it a local stories because some people weren't
awake when I brought this up in the five o'clock hour.
Property taxes across all Ohio counties apparently could increase by

(57:35):
as much as twenty five percent over the next couple
of years unless we get some relief from the lawmakers.
Interviewed by w CPOs Paula Christian, Matt Nolan, president of
the County saw Auditors Association of Ohiland, Warren County Auditor, said,
you have to call your legislators and frankly, this has
to happen now. The more you can reach out to
them and say this is my number one issue, this

(57:56):
is gonna shift my vote if you don't do something
about this that has an impact quota of saying, you're
going to see what you saw last year in Hamilton
County happen again. You're going to see a twenty five
to thirty percent value increase wherever you live. Claremont Butler Warren,
You're going to see that level of value increase, and
you're going to see your taxes go up by a

(58:16):
similar amount. And most every school district in that area
is going to be at the twenty mil floor, So
they're going to experience the largest property tax increase they've
ever experienced. He testified at the Ohio State Finance Committee
last week, begging urging lawmakers to expand the homestead exemption program,
cap how much school districts can get from a property
tax and stop non business credit that goes to out

(58:39):
of state companies that buy up properties to rent out.
You know, there's a petition circulating around after this last
increase that is seeking to eradicate property taxes completely as
a constitutional amendment, and that's got some people worried. Interviewed
also Pierce Township trustee Alan Freeman. I think he's serious

(58:59):
right about this, But so that property tax is how
we fund police, fire road repairs in any number of
township services. If you get rid of property taxes completely,
then we're not going to be able to respond to
a nine to one one call. That is, unless we
get some relief from Columbus that con solve that problem,
and I'm not quite sure how that relief would be created.
No one said it used to be the values went
up and rates came down. Now your taxes don't really

(59:20):
go up that much. That's all changed. Now you're seeing
your values go up double digits, almost twenty percent this cycle,
and to be honest, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Hamilton County is going to go through a reevaluation. Next year.
We'll go through one, and I think it's going to
be very similar numbers twenty five thirty percent value increases
and twenty percent tax increases. And we can't sustain that.

(59:47):
They starts socking away the money right now, folks, I'm
not optimistic that Columbus is going to provide us with
any relief. Metro Board of Trustees got a new fare structure.
If you're a bus rider, this will impact you. Fair
increases proximately ten percent across all service types under the
new structured local fares two dollars and twenty cents Express

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root fares now three bucks. They say it supports Metro's
continued investment and enhanced service reliability customer experience, while maintaining
one of the most affordable fair structures in the region.
They're got a new fare for children too, updating the
child fare policy children under fifty five inches tall. It's
gonna be like a King's Island ride, ride for free

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with a fair paying adult to children per adult limit.
Children over fifty five inches will pay the fare full
fare support the charge change. Each bus is now going
to feature a height indicator at the fifty five inch mark.
Do you think it's going to be like one of
the characters that they used to have at King's Island, Joe?

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You stand next to it, you think it's going to
be a fifty five inch tall aftab per of all
cutout that's a possibility and held out at fifty five inches.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Update based on guidance from the Centers for Disease Control
and the World Health Organization, which report the average height
of a ten year old child is fifty four point
five inches regardless of gender. They'n't had to add that
in there. What about the quick growing kids? Aren't some
kids out there that grow a lot more quickly than
others anyway? Also, a tap and save payments a new

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thing that simplifies how riders pay their fares, ensuring that
they always get the best deals. So instead of buying
a pass upfront, writers can load funds onto their smartphones
or smart cards, tap or scan it when they board.
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Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
It's six forty one. I heard me the abas. Next work,
Jay ratt Love, he'll be on at eight thirty. We'll
get here from Jennifer Gross will be in studio High
State Representative Representative Growth Gross seven point thirty two eighty
thirty one. We'll hear from Jay thereafter. In the meantime,
over to the phones. Let's see what Corey's got this morning. Corey,
Happy Thursday to you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Welcome, Hey, Happy Friday. Is the there Ryan, Thanks.

Speaker 12 (01:04:46):
For couble re quick on property text? What Jay the
song got earlier? The auditor value in his property. If
he goes gets his own appraisal, I go get a
home equity loan. That's what I did. Found out my
you was one hundred thousand dollars less than what the
county said. Yeah, Homeport, that might be one way to
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
You are absolutely carry, You are absolutely right. That is
I failed to mention that. It obviously wasn't in the
forefront of my mind when I was mentioning the comps
and the other sales in the general neighborhood. So that
is an excellent idea, and it is something you can
do to take in when you make your case, appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (01:05:24):
And then the secondly, I think as far as property tax,
I think there's it's an American for there property tax
on the residential property from something you bought, be taxes
for to it sports a recurring thing. That state can
take your home that you paid off and lived in
for years because say a thousand dollars of vote back taxes.
I think that's an American And I support elimination of

(01:05:47):
property tax or residential properties, and I think that somebody
would present that. I think it'd be a winning, winning bill.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Well, that's what that ballot petition is being circulated, is
right now be a constitutional amendment to eliminate property tax
in the state of Ohio. And I'm sure if one
of the petition circulators comes to your front door, I imagine
you probably will sign it. Question is the follow through
if that were to pass and they did eradicate property
taxes along the lines of what you want, how do

(01:06:19):
we go about reef or funding all of the different
things that rely like the parks, the schools, the fire department,
the police. How do we go and restructure their funding mechanism?
Is it going to be from a state tax. Do
we increase the income or rather the not the income
tax are just going to flatten that out? Do we
increase the sales tax redistributed? Then there's the how does

(01:06:41):
it get redistributed? Is it going to be fairness in
that with each police department fighting over some sort of
limited bucket of money the devil's and the details on that.
And then the other argument is counter to what you
are saying. Yes, it seems fundamentally unfair to tax someone
to the point where they might lose the house they
lived in and paid for and own outright for fair

(01:07:04):
to pay property taxes, But that homeowner does get the
benefit of the services that are funded by the property tax.
For example, if the house caught fire, the fire department
would show up to put it out. If there's a crime,
of course you call nine one one in hopefully the
police will arrive before your dead. I know it's overstatement,
but you get the idea. So people who live in

(01:07:26):
their homes do rely on funded government programs and they
get the benefit of those, so it's not like they're
you know that there's no free ride in essence, So
if someone can figure out a better funding mechanism so
we don't have to rely on property taxes and the
seemingly arbitrary manner in which they are calculated. I welcome

(01:07:49):
the suggestions because then we can start demanding that our
elected officials in Columbus get on it and start doing
something about it. But man, it's a huge red flash.
After all the pain people went through in Hamilton County
and the other counties had this thirty percent increase in taxes,
and mine went up too, and you know it's coming again,

(01:08:10):
at least that's what we've been warned. How long can
this go on? I mean, the only thing that could
happen that might end up lowering them is if the
bottom falls out of the real estate market and you're
now let's say two hundred and fifty thousand dollars home
ends up having a value of one hundred thousand dollars,
because well, we are living in a recession or a

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maybe a depression, and I don't think anybody wants to
go through that in order to get their property taxes down.
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strong storms. Today's high eighty overnight, no rain, but a
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some storms. Its eighty for the high overnight low sixty
five with rain likely and a mostly cloudy Saturday. It's

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fifty five KRS deep talk station.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Six point fifty one. It's coming up on the fifty
five KRCD talk station. Looking forward to having Representative Jennifer
Gross and studio to talk about medicaid in Ohio and
the budget that's going on. We'll get her thoughts and
comments about what we can do about property taxes anyway.
Shall be in the studio for a full hour beginning
at seven thirty, So looking forward to that. And then
of course I always love talking to Jay Rattliffe. I

(01:11:39):
heard me the aviation expert that takes place every Thursday
at a thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
This is a very.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Disturbing thing that I read Matt margolis O, a PJA
media reporting on this, and I think everyone can admit
and acknowledge that the level of violence waged against people
is getting is escalating political violence. Most we got violence
and anger expressed against Jewish people merely because they happen
to be Jewish, got executives being gunned down and then

(01:12:10):
applauded for doing so. It's a de evolution of society
and pivoting over to ICE agents, immigrations and customs enforcement
doing their job enforcing the law. You can disagree with
the immigration law, but we had an overwhelming invasion of

(01:12:32):
our country during the Bide administration. I don't think anybody
can argue against the addition of ten to twenty million
new people in our country that came in here illegally,
not following the laws and processes in place, let in
and practically well and literally invited in many cases by
the Biden administration, with two million known god aways, their

(01:12:52):
motives completely unknown, their identity is completely unknown. And now
I find out that ICE agents have now become target
of left wing left wingers, harassing, doxing, and threatening them
simply for doing their job and of holding the law.
In a recent press conference, Acting ICE Director Toddlines talked

(01:13:12):
about this growing danger that his agents facing not just
from violent criminals, but from radical activists who want to
expose and intimidate them into silence, maybe even not to
not do their job. He said a lot of agencies
were invited to come out two weeks ago in Los
Angeles where we ran an operation where ICE officers were docksed.
People are out there taking photos of the names, their

(01:13:33):
faces and posting them online with death threats to their
family and themselves. He pointed out one case, ICE worked
with the Secret Service to arrest an individual who had
been actively targeting agents and their families, saying, we arrested
someone that was going online taking their photos, posting their families,
their kids, Instagram, their kids facebooks, and targeting in them

(01:13:59):
and he pivoted over to outrage. It's expressed by these
left wing activists that the ICE agents are now covering
their faces. And I'm sorry if people are offended by
them wearing masks, but I'm not going to let my
officers and agents go out there and put their lives
on the line and their families on the line because
people don't like what immigration enforcement is. He was pressed further,

(01:14:22):
he challenged the priorities is is that the issue here
that were just upset about masks? Or is anyway up
said about the fact that ICE officers families were labeled
terrorists they report the story gets even worse, not just

(01:14:42):
ICE agents and their families being targeted by left wing activists,
but now Democrats in Washington are openly threatening to docks
ICE personnel themselves, aiding and a betting those who want
to intimidate in danger in silence federal law enforcement. House
Minority Leader Jakeim Jeffreys quote, every single ICE agent who's

(01:15:05):
engaged in this aggressive overreach are and are trying to
hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful
in doing that. This is America, this is not the
Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron curtain, this is
not the nineteen thirties, and every single one of them,
no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes,

(01:15:25):
will of course be identified. House Minority Leader, How came Jeffreys,
why so he's part, I guess of this growing group
who wants these agents harassed, docksed, and maybe even murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
He didn't have anything to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Say about Antifi or the other protesters out there, you know,
waging war in the streets with their masks on the
violent pro Palestinian actually pro Hamas folks who are regularly
showing up fully masked and engaging in violent and angry
confrontations with Jewish people. Not a word. And as Matt

(01:16:23):
Margoli's notes, considering the lead in to his comment Soviet Union,
we're not the iron curtains in the nineteen thirties. Comparing
Ice agents federal officers lawfully enforcing an immigration policy to
Nazis and Soviet secret police isn't just vile, it's calculated
and dangerous. He's deliberately smearing these agents to justify their

(01:16:44):
public targeting and harassment. It's not just reckless, it's an
open invitation for extremists to hunt down law enforcement officers
and their families. This isn't leadership, its incitement, and it
speaks volumes about the radical, unhinged direction of today's Democrat Party.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Amen Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Six fifty six fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Feel free
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News happens fast, stay up to date. At the top
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Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
This week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Sevenh six fifty five kr CD Talk Station, a very
happy Thursday slash Friday Eve to you and I hope
you can stick around. We've got a little time between
now the bottom of the air when Jennifer grows So
High State Representative District forty five joins the program. Sho'll
be in studio for a full hour. We will talk
about Medicaid since she is on the Medicaid Board. Perfect
timing considering Jack Windsor from the Windsor Report was on.

(01:17:55):
He's been investigating this and following the money and apparently
it's a terrible situation in terms of fraud, waste, and
abuse here in Ohio based upon the actual numbers, Jennifer,
are you talking about that? We'll talk about the budget votes.
She was one of the few Republicans who did not
vote for the budget. And maybe get a word or
two about property taxes. Someone that former auditor for Hamilton

(01:18:19):
County Dusty Roads knows something about score to the phones
and see what he's got to say. Dusty, welcome to
the program, my friend. Great seeing yesterday listener, laun Jope,
you had as good a time as I did.

Speaker 13 (01:18:30):
It was fabulous as always good time. The problem with
the property tax they solved it in the nineteen seventies,
I believe. And what they did was when values jumped,
they rolled back the millage of every voted levy so

(01:18:53):
that you're voting for money, not millage. And if your
value doubled, your taxes went down. Most of them, everything
above the first ten mills, and that's most of eighty
percent of the taxes. The problem is the schools pushed

(01:19:15):
a twenty mili floor option in to the mix in
the late eighties, and they were crying that they were
getting no benefit from inflation when they had to go
back for levees all the time. So with the twenty
mil floor, they exempted the school tax from the rollback.

(01:19:38):
And what happens is when real estate jumps like it does,
it doesn't track inflation. The taxes go way up in
those school districts that are at the twenty mil floor,
and the schools can jigger their budgets to get onto
the twenty miil floor. There's a about seven or eight

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Hamilton County, including violent old Kills, and all the schools
in Butler County are at the twenty mili floor. So
every time they get a big jump in values, the
taxes go up and the school has got a win
fall unvoted tax money. And that's the answer. And nobody

(01:20:22):
will talk about the twenty mili floor in Columbus.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Well, and wonderful explanation, and I appreciate it, but I'm
going back to the now. I believe twenty year old
Supreme Court decision was just says the way we fund
schools here in the state of Ohio is unconstitutional, and
they haven't done anything about it in twenty years.

Speaker 13 (01:20:44):
Well, that's another issue. I'm talking about the fact that
property taxes aren't supposed to blow out of sight when
values go up. There's a kicker in there that rolls
back the levees and the schools evaded with the twenty

(01:21:05):
mili floor option, and the property owner gets screwed. I mean,
it's that simple, and I know the Supreme Court ruled
in the legislature order. That's another issue. I'm talking about
property taxes and they're not supposed to go up a
lot when values go up, and the schools got around

(01:21:29):
it and they don't have to pass a levee and
old kills for the next whatever because they're getting unvoted
tax increases. And that's the secret, and the legislators won't
address it and won't even talk about it. But that's
the boogeyman in this whole thing. Is the twenty mili

(01:21:51):
floor exemption for schools.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Well, Dusty, none of this is a curveball if you
can address or do you have any thoughts or ideas
about it. I mean, all of this massive increase in
property taxes as a result in this grassroots group collecting
signatures to put a constitutional amendment on the November ballot
to eliminate property taxes altogether. Is that even something that's feasible?
Is there a way? I mean, if that were to
pass and we were eradicated property taxes, the whole funding

(01:22:18):
structure for police, fire, the school's parks, I mean, you
name it, all of that will be turned on its head.
Is there any workaround should something like that go through
and pass.

Speaker 13 (01:22:31):
I don't know, that's the problem, and you put your
finger on it Ramaswami said he was going to end
property taxes, but he didn't say he always going to
replace the income So that's a problem. But on the
other hand, they brought it on themselves by getting around
that rollback and taking unvoted tax increases, So they brought

(01:22:56):
it on themselves and lots of luck. I mean, you
could put a fifteen percent sales tax on everything, I
guess raise the income tax. But it's like the old
here you alone, don't tax you doing text me, text
that man behind the tree.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Yeah, yeah, well, and you know that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
I would actually, you know, conceptually, even consider a sales
tax increase as long as it wasn't outrageous to do
it that way. But the problem with that is it's
like federal tax dollars. They take them from us here locally,
it goes to Washington, d c. And then anytime you
want to get the money back, it comes with strings attached,
or it's not fairly allocated. Someone's always left out, And

(01:23:39):
so every year there'd be this scrap and fight between
you know, this township, that township, this police department, that
police department. You didn't give me enough, you gave too
much to Cleveland because they're too well connected or whatever.
So the redistribution of the pot of money from the
additional sales tax will be fought over, and I think
that would represent represent an on goaling battle and challenge

(01:24:01):
for everyone for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:24:03):
For sure. But the property tax they solved it. Uh,
and then the school's got a work around in the
late eighties and that up end of the whole thing.
If that rollback was an effect for all every voted levy,
the increase wouldn't have been that much it was in miniuschool.

(01:24:25):
But that's the problem, and nobody wants to mess up,
so lots of luck to them. Ask your state representative
guest what she thinks about the twenty milter floor, and
that's the solution, and good luck to the people. I mean,

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I hate property taxes, but like you say, what are you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Replace them with? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
But so now the spear real quick does before we
part company. And so the idea would be to reduce
the twenty mil floor down to what ten Just repeal that.

Speaker 13 (01:25:05):
Yeah, I repeal it. Let the school taxes be treated
as every other tax. The fire department didn't get any
more money when the values were not because their levy
rolls rolled back. The police department didn't get any more money,
but the schools, if they were under this funny mill floor,

(01:25:26):
got a wind fault.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Well, you answered the question for our listeners. I'm glad
you were out there, man, because I'd been scratching my
head over the whole reality of this, and I figured
you were the man. Hell, you were at the Helm
for such a long time in the auditor's department, you
at least have the answer to why we're dealing with
is right now. Great seeing you yesterday, man. It's always
a pleasure to have you in our company, and I'm

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sure my listeners enjoyed having you there as well. Seeing
another one down the road, but Dusty.

Speaker 13 (01:25:56):
I'll see you then, Brian, thanks a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Thanks brother. Great hearing from you today. Five three, seven,
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that will be for the ninth of July were I

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know it's always the first Wednesday, but the first Wednesday
is July second, and I don't want to interfere with
people's Independence Day plans since it's two days later, So
we'll kick it off to the following week, July ninth,
Market on your calendar, and we can all enjoy Wandering
Monsters Brew and Barbecue together at the next listener lunch.
And thanks again to Mattrie. That Summit Park location that

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about matter here in the state of Ohio, including medicaid,
including the budget, including the twenty mil four of the
Dusty just brought up. Unless she's ready for that, we're
gonna get it anyway. Bobby, welcome to the program, Thanks
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Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Good to hear you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
I got some information about the EPA and FEMA and
everything with East Palastine just came out in the last
couple of days, but the unmet needs reports were never issued.
All this information is coordinated by FEMA, the White House, EPA,
National Security Council, and the Department of Justice. Emails are

(01:30:36):
coming out now from Lee Selden and everything. I'm just
wondering what our governor in the state of Ohio and
the state EPA didn't want to publish the information.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Your term about Palestine.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Yes's Palestine's Yeah, if you said that, I didn't, It
didn't register in my thick skull, so I thought, yeah,
you know it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
It is really damning.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
The information we so far about what they didn't tell
us is damning. And you know, you stand around, you go,
wait a second. You got people's lives at ask you here.
You got livestock dropping dad, you got waters polluted, You
got a bunch of people who are worried with this
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out that cancer clusters are a problem, and yet they
don't bother let anybody know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
They knew it in the very beginning. They just didn't
want it out in the public sphere. But you know,
that's the whole thing. But my question is, what did
Mike Dwine know and what did that lady in the
EPA in the State of Ohio though, Why wouldn't they
release the information to the public.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
I agree completely. Regardless of the names of the individuals,
they are elected officials. They are supposed to be looking
up for their constituent's best interest. Why wouldn't you give
the information out? Obviously there was a you can call
it a cover up or a refusal to provide value information.
But what's the motive behind denying us access to something

(01:32:04):
that's so critically important?

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
They didn't want people to know how severe it was?

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
No, again, I go, but why not? What's what's wrong
with letting us know the truth? I mean, we can
handle it. I mean, that's that's the part that really
always irks me when something like this is held from public,
you know, from from the public. Why is it held?
I mean, why don't we have all the Kennedy documents yet?

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Why do?

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
I mean, there's a million different areas that the federal
government sits on information that I think we can handle
if we're just told the truth. All I want is
the damn truth, you know, whatever it happens to me.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
They bear false witness number one. Yeah, and if you don't,
a man with that word has no honor, You have
no honor, you have no soul. I mean, look at
him right now. They're not a lot of these individuals.
They're nothing but a bunch of liars and hypocrites. Those
are the worst too, that you can get well.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
And I undeniably agree with you on that. But again,
the big looming question for me in the room is
always why are they just sitting on the information that
we could use. Why weren't we told they knew the
COVID nineteen vaccine caused myocarditis early? Why didn't they let
us know? And you could easily come maybe draw a

(01:33:23):
more clear conclusion on that one. There could be some
nefarious reason behind that. This this is where conspiracy theories
come from, Bobby. You find out later in the game,
after people run around and talk about, well, these days
these vaccines could be dangerous. You're damn right, they could
be dangerous. They didn't do a full clinical trial study.
It is throw them out of the general world. But

(01:33:43):
you see the information about the downside. We get that
when we'll watch a pharmaceutical commercial. Do not take this
drug if you're allergic to the drug. This drug could
cause cancer in certain individuals. Do not take if you're breastfeeding.
All of that, we go, Okay, I heard what you said.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
You warned me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
You got studies which show in a certain number of
people that this drug will cause this problem, but it
still may cure my problem or solve the pain that
I'm dealing with, So you know what, I'm going to
take a calculated risk and take it anyway. I just
want the information so I can do that. It's like
food labeling laws tell me what's in the product I'm eating,

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so I can decide whether or not I want to
put it in my body. So information's good and we
can all digest it and make rational decisions based on it.
But when they just simply do not tell us valuable
important things, like you know what, this is a really
carcinogenetic plume that's out there and we may have to
be studying and looking out for cancer risks. I might

(01:34:38):
want that information so I could talk to my doctor
about it, so he's on alert that you know, this
person could very well get cancer because they breathed the
air in East Palestine and drank the water there after
the train derailed. I'm entitled to that. I don't know why.
I suppose it's a form of lyying, but withholding the

(01:35:03):
truth can be viewed as a form of lyne But
simply withholding the truth without any conceivable reason behind it,
why wouldn't they let you know? And yes, you can
implicate the wine praps. You can imp implicate the EPA.
You can implicate anybody in the Biden administration who had

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it but didn't let us know. That's fine. Those are
the actors who have it but won't let us know.
I still want the answer to the question of why not.
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It's seven thirty one, fifty five Ker City Talk Station.
Real exciting day for me in studio representing District forty
five here in the state of Ohio. Jennifer grows Always
great to see. It's been too long since I've seen you,
but it's a real pleasure having you here today.

Speaker 9 (01:38:17):
Thank you, Thank you, Brian. It's good to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Since we were on the topic of property taxes, you
were listening, we heard Dusty, and I know there's a
budget going on now and all these things. We're going
to talk about the budget. We're certainly going to talk
about Medicaid because you're on the Medicaid board. And I
don't know if you heard my conversation with Jack Windsor earlier.
He got the report regarding the Lexus Nexus dive into

(01:38:40):
income levels and how terrible that was that all these
people out there, some people with a million dollar plus resources,
still on the Medicaid system. Medicaid fraud, wasting abuse has
been a known problem here in the state of Ohio
for a long time. So for my listeners, we will definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Get to that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
But I want to start with the property tax thing.
As you know, there's that petition being circulated just eliminate
it all together. And I'm struggling with how I mean,
While it sounds like a wonderful idea because I hate
looking at my property tax bill, which has gone up
dramatically since we built a house, but I don't know
how funding for anything would work in the absence of

(01:39:16):
that since everything is built around that property tax, so
putting that issue aside. There is that petition circulating, but
in terms of what we were warned about this potential
second round of Matt Nolan, president of the County Auditors Association,
speaking with Paula Christian Ever at CPO, said, listen, you
embrace yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
It's coming again.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
You're going to see another twenty percent jump, right, and
there are seniors out there. I feel so sorry for
seniors on a fixed income and they've been in their house,
it's all paid off. They think they've got nothing to
worry about except maintenance and upkeep, and then boom, you
get a property tax bill that's jumped by a thousand
dollars or something crazy like that. So how do we
address this? Dusty said, this is the genesis of this,

(01:39:57):
was that twenty mili floor that the school which allows
them to get an ever increasing larger and larger amount,
which is why our tax bills keep going up.

Speaker 9 (01:40:06):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
What's your takes all?

Speaker 15 (01:40:08):
Well, First of all, Brian, you know we know that
homeowners are being crushed by by property tax, and especially
our over sixty five who've given largely they've lived in
the community's twenty thirty forty years, but they have unrecognized
gains on their homes, and so a lot of people
we can we can't wait for them to move and
say move to somewhere else and use your record, your

(01:40:31):
unrecognized gains. So it's an issue that the House is
very very aware of. And we do actually have a bill,
it's HB one eighty six. But let me say, we
have a group of bills and we're calling this from
the House. Just came out yesterday in Columbus at a
press release with Representatives Roma and Representative David Thomas, and

(01:41:01):
we're calling it the Property Tax Relief Now Act. So
HB one eighty six is the one that addresses the
twenty mil floor. And what it would do is it
limits the growth of the school district twenty mil floor
to the rate of inflation. So what that means is
the only increase the schools would get. Remember how Dusty

(01:41:22):
was talking about the wind fall again, Well, this would
limit it to the rate of inflation.

Speaker 9 (01:41:27):
Now, I understand that the.

Speaker 15 (01:41:29):
Average person who works for a capitalistic company and not
the government doesn't typically get a three point five percent
raise every year. However, it will limit the schools, that
that bill will limit the schools to a and the
rate of inflation, which will greatly help because we do
see that in January we will have another windfall of

(01:41:50):
property tax increase and we can't have that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
No, we cannot. But you know, in terms of addressing
the schools, Oh my god, what are we going to do.
We don't get an increase. We can't keep up with inflation.
Problem solved, that's right. Oh, yes, that's right. And fortunately,
at least right now, projections indicate and we've already seen
the inflation is down. Now, it's going to be terrible
in years where you have like nine percent inflation. But
if you're looking at a two, which is what the

(01:42:15):
FED usually is looking for in terms of acceptable desirable,
it's like two percent. Most of us can swallow that.

Speaker 9 (01:42:22):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
I can swallow a two percent increase of my property
tax built, but not a thirty percent increase, that's.

Speaker 15 (01:42:28):
Right, and it will be recalculated. You know, there's a
It creates a property tax credit that's equal to the
amount of the tax generated by the twenty mil floor.
And I can't get into particular details. This just came
out yesterday, but I'd encourage everyone to talk to their legislator.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
But this is a whole entire package.

Speaker 15 (01:42:48):
So not only does it adjust the twenty mil floor,
but it also addresses those that are on the homestead exemption.
It gives local government the opportunity to match what the
state does, so so the funding. Remember that your local
property tax. Let me be really clear to every single listener,
all of your local property tax stays local. The state
makes the laws that affect those taxes, but all of

(01:43:12):
the taxes you pay stay local. None of it goes
to the state when it's your property tax. So we
need to remember that we have to address the local spending.
You had mentioned early earlier, Brian, that you'd be okay
with paying some maybe an increased sales tax, and.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
That way everybody participates well.

Speaker 15 (01:43:33):
And that is something that I've heard from my constituents.
They talk about, how you know, we have a school
levy and everybody votes yes on the levee except for
maybe some of our elderly who are on a homestead exemption.
They don't want their property taxes to go up, but
everybody votes yes.

Speaker 9 (01:43:50):
School levies pass. But here's the thing.

Speaker 15 (01:43:52):
If you don't own property, there's no skin off your
teeth in this way. It will require local governments because
there's more coming. We'll talk probably more about this today,
but it will require potentially counties to consider an increase
in sales tax and also potentially an income tax for

(01:44:14):
the school systems because there is an opportunity for them
to do that if they so choose, but the people
get to vote on that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
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Seven forty two fifty five KRC Detalk Station. Brian Thomas,
Jennifer Gross, State representatives some District forty five talking property taxes. Welcome,
refreshing a dose of information here. We have local tax
commissions and how do they factor into this property tax equation?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Is your mic on?

Speaker 9 (01:47:14):
I don't know you are now it is it on? So?

Speaker 15 (01:47:18):
Well, the local and I'm not an expert in all
things all things, but there's a local tax commission at
every county and they have the ability to work within
your sales tax and raise revenue that way. So Representative
Thomas and others have been trying to go around the
state and say, hey, you can take a little prop

(01:47:39):
you can take a little pressure off of your homeowners
by working within sales tax. But commissioners don't typically want
to raise taxes, right, No.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Unless it's for a stadium. Yeah, sorry, I get that
in there.

Speaker 15 (01:47:54):
Because you're from Cincinnati. I'm in Butler County. We don't
have to worry about some of that. I don't take
county issues, but yeah, so they can be working on
sales tax and that gives buy into everybody in the county,
and it increases revenues so that it can take pressure
off the homeowner. And that commission usually consists of three people.

(01:48:15):
And I don't quote me on this everybody, but I
believe it's a commissioner, the prosecutor, and the auditor maybe
those three.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
So yeah, so we have some possible relief in sight.
I mean, do you have any idea what this might
translate into in terms if this bill passes, or this
Property Tax Relief Bill Act and all that's involved with it,
the sort of work that's right, what that might translate
into in terms of reduction in tax and property taxes.

Speaker 15 (01:48:44):
The average homeowner in Ohio should see eight hundred and
fifty dollars removed from their property tax. It provides approximately
three point five billion in direct property tax relief to Ohioans.

Speaker 9 (01:48:56):
Immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Well, that's going to be welcome. Welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:49:00):
Prevent spikes and unvoted property tax I mean, there's multiple
bills that can rattle them off. Maybe we'll talk about
them in this hour, but it aims to keep taxes
and revenues low. It empowers local government to provide direct
relief to the how is most vulnerable through a local
homestead exemption match that they can add to the state exemption,

(01:49:22):
and it empowers voters to eliminate most unvoted, unvoted taxes
for local governments, and it reduces the over reliance on
property tax which, as you stated earlier, was determined to
be unlawful.

Speaker 14 (01:49:37):
And yeah, and we need to address that right now. Well,
that's the Supreme Court case that I was mentioning earlier.
This our school funding mechanism has been deemed unconstitutional for
the last twenty years. And yet it's like people complained
about Donald Trump defying the courts, and you're going, oh,
he's defying the courts.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
This is the downfall democracy. Well, we as a state
have been defying our own Supreme Court now for two decades.

Speaker 13 (01:50:01):
True.

Speaker 9 (01:50:02):
True, a lot of people level.

Speaker 15 (01:50:04):
We also have the death penalty in Ohio, but we've
had no people that have had to pay for that
so during the the wine years.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
So I'm not a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Of the death penalty because I don't believe in the
state's ability to take a life away because you know what,
sometimes they screw up.

Speaker 9 (01:50:21):
True, that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
Reason for not I know, there's some terrible people out
there that I would love to see struck down by
God in a bolt of lightning, or run over by
a truck, or die in some horrific meat grinder incident
because they committed a horrific crime. But we know of
a lot of cases where their death penalty has been
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police didn't do their job right, and then you can't
the state shouldn't be able to take a life. I
don't want to go down that way.

Speaker 15 (01:50:48):
That's another example lot of us not following some of
the laws of the land.

Speaker 9 (01:50:53):
But I hear you on that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
All right, let's continue with Jennifer will ultimately get to
medicaid and uh more on the budget is sort of
all within the budget, and she will be talking about
these six hundred million dollars for the Cleveland Browns Complex.
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Speaker 9 (01:53:28):
I'm distracting.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
You are distracting me, Jennifer Gross is a distraction in studio,
but a welcome distraction anyhow, Jennifer from District forty five
were too breaking things down. So we really did a
good job of the property tax thing. Let's start. We'll
just get do the tip of the iceberg in this
segment as we introduce a more far reaching conversation on
issues related to Medicaid. Now, when I talked to Jack

(01:53:53):
Windsor about this, he was looking at that one segment
of the Medicaid population, the blind, disabled, and is it elderly.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
Yeah, okay, the ones that most needed Yes.

Speaker 15 (01:54:03):
The ones that I walled off as a chair and
didn't even touch because I thought, I mean, how do
I go back to your listeners and the people and say, well,
we're going to cut the age, blind and disabled off Medicaid.

Speaker 9 (01:54:15):
You'd have my head on a platter, right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Yeah, I mean, theoretically, if anybody's going to be deserving
of some assistance, it would be them, Yes, But if
they've got a lot of money, then they don't need
to be in a public assistance program. That's where the
public assistance programs comes from, or the need comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Duh.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
Then I'm not man explaining, but I'm just so disturbed
by what our state's third party vendor, a company contracted
out to do this kind of work, and that's Lexus Nexus,
according to Jack Windsor, and by all accounts have access
to eighty five percent of every everybody in the country's
bank accounts. They took looked at one slice I think

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it was twenty five percent of.

Speaker 15 (01:54:55):
The fifty six percent and found twenty nine percent.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
That's where outside.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
So they look at a little over half of the entire blind, disabled,
elderly community and determine that twenty three percent of them
have more income, they are not qualified to be in
the program. And so he goes back to the High
Department of Medicaid and it's like, what's the deal here,
And they gave him some long winded, wordy goofy response.
He's published it today, but which basically said nothing and

(01:55:24):
my question to him is like, wait a second. They're
are vendor. We trust them with the information. They're who
we rely on to determine eligibility. In the first place,
they determined they aren't eligible, why not send them a
letter and so you're kicked out of the program. And
if they said were like, what, I don't have that
kind of money, they can come back and try to
present evidence that it's not their money or they don't
have it, or Lexus and Nexus was wrong. That's this

(01:55:44):
simple solution that would result in billions of dollars in savings.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
What in the hell?

Speaker 15 (01:55:50):
Yes, and let's pull that out. Four thousand Ohio Medicaid
beneficia areas were found to be holding one hundred thousand to.

Speaker 9 (01:55:59):
Nine hundred.

Speaker 15 (01:56:01):
Nine hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine
in assets, and twelve people had over a million dollars
and they were on Medicaid.

Speaker 9 (01:56:10):
Let's break that down.

Speaker 15 (01:56:12):
For that population, they're getting in benefits twenty four hundred
and ninety nine dollars a month. So the taxpayer is
on the hook for those four thousand people who do
not qualify, or twenty nine percent at two thousand, four
hundred and ninety nine dollars a month times twelve times
every year they were on.

Speaker 9 (01:56:31):
You can do the math.

Speaker 15 (01:56:31):
That's where the billions of waste is coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
That would address a lot of claimed budget shortfalls.

Speaker 15 (01:56:38):
And their legs and property tax. I mean, like we
should be moving now. We need to be clear. The
federal government matches. We pay thirty five cents on every
dollar the federal government.

Speaker 9 (01:56:49):
We call it a pull down. I do not like it.

Speaker 15 (01:56:52):
Ohio is thirty to thirty five percent dependent on the
federal government. And we could talk about this in the budget.

Speaker 3 (01:56:57):
It's our neighbors in every other state the tax. I mean,
I don't care. It's federal government money. That's our money.
I don't want people in Kentucky for paying for our fraud,
waist and abuse. I mean, that's what pisses me off
so much. I just see I'm getting unhinged here, Jennifer.
I mean, it's always well, the federal government's gonna pay. Well,
you know, go ahead and expand medicating your state, because
the federal government's gonna cover ninety percent of the expansion.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Damn it. That's taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:57:22):
The federal government we are That's right, that's right. People
forget We're gonna draw that down.

Speaker 15 (01:57:28):
And don't even get me started on snap benefits that
are spent in Orlando, Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
See again, if they would more closely look at that,
if we would more closely looked at if all the
states out there would finally say, no, Moss, We're gonna
do a deep dive on this. Now, welcome to the
world of artificial intelligence. It's made the job of ferreting
this out so much easier. I'm sure some geek like
Elon Musk could put it into a computer and have
it spit out in like five seconds. Got the list

(01:57:56):
of people who aren't eligible, regardless of which program we're
talking about, and weeks all save we could probably cut
a trillion dollars out of the government spending every year.

Speaker 9 (01:58:04):
Oh my gosh, you aren't kidding even more.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Let's bring Jennifer back. It's seven fifty five coming up
in something fifty six. More to talk about in the
next hour ahead, And they spent another half hour with
Jennifer here in studio. I'm looking forward to that. Stay around,
be right back.

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I fifty about KRC Decaux Station, having a really enjoyable
conversation here, cutting through the chaff and focusing on the
week with Jennifer Gross High State Representative District forty five.
Outspoken she is, and I really appreciate your conviction. You know,
it's it's nice to have a politician who knows exactly
where they're coming from and why they're coming from where
they're coming from. So in our on air and off

(01:59:04):
air discussions, that's come through very loud and clear. You know,
there's little term Barbara Streiss and BS. There's a lot
of BS politicians out there, and you have no idea
whether what they're saying is the truth a lie. They're
just trying to appease you for the moment to get
you to leave them alone. But you know there's Congressman
Massy out there who you know exactly where that guy's

(01:59:25):
going to vote, you know exactly why he's going to vote,
way ahead of time. You don't need he doesn't need
to utter a symbol. Still, will you just show me
a piece of legislation I could look at and say,
Massy's going to be a yes, or Massy's going to
be another Congressman, Davidson, that's very similar.

Speaker 15 (01:59:39):
My congressman, best congressman in Ohio if I don't say
so myself. Yeah, And Massey with his debt clock, I mean,
how do we how do we we need a debt
clock in Ohio to be able to show or not
in debt?

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
But Trump wants to scrap the debt ceiling outright.

Speaker 9 (01:59:57):
Spending.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
I mean it's saying you know, I'm usually in line
with what Trump wants to do. And you know, anytime
I criticized Trump, oh my god, I'll get an earful temple.
You know I do. But you know, it's like listeners
are called. We say, Brian, I agree with like eighty
eighty percent of what you say. I believe that I
agree with about ninety percent.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Of what you say.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
I f it's a pretty good batting average. I'll take that,
and I expect everybody who agree with me one hundred
percent of the time.

Speaker 15 (02:00:22):
Your wife does your wife agree with you? One hundred
percent mine doesn't.

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
Of course, she's listening right now.

Speaker 9 (02:00:30):
My husband's listening.

Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
You know, if she does disagree withment something, it's going
to be something so trivial because we don't fight about anything.
We have nothing to fight about. We get along great.
Thirty three years this.

Speaker 9 (02:00:42):
Month, wow, twenty two for me.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
We've been together longer than thirty three years. We started
dating in eighty seven.

Speaker 9 (02:00:50):
So we have a bill.

Speaker 15 (02:00:51):
We have a bill that that was sponsored by Representative
Beth Lear and Josh Williams that focuses on the foundation
of the nuclear family with a mom and a dad.
The month between Mother's Day and Father's Day is natural
family month. Oh well, we're working on legislation for that
doesn't discount o their families, right, but it does. It

(02:01:14):
does focus on the solid foundation of There.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
Have been so many studies reflecting that. You know, part
of the problem in America is the the the eradication
of the nuclear family. And you know the Johnson administration
is largely responsible for that because they would only give
welfare benefits the single moms. There was no in senator
to get married, no one senator to have a guy
around the house. Anyway, moving back to Medicaid. Since you're

(02:01:40):
on the Medicaid board and we've already identified one of
the problems, which is no one apparently ever gets thrown
off in spite of the fact that they don't qualify.
How do we fix this? I mean, I keep hearing, oh,
that's the county's responsibility, or we don't do that here,
and you know, somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got
to pull the trigger, and then somebody's gonna have to
go through and look at all the working age people
who are receiving Medicaid benefits. I mean, but it's complicated,

(02:02:04):
but we're talking about a return on investment that is
so huge the problem just can't be ignored any longer,
especially since it's coming to our everyone's attention, most notably
in that small segment that we just talked about that
equals billions of dollars.

Speaker 9 (02:02:19):
That's right, Brian.

Speaker 15 (02:02:20):
One of my goals as chair of the Ohio Medicaid
Committee has been to open up the vision for people
to see what's actually going on. One of the problems
with bureaucracy, no matter where it is in government, and
that includes Ohio Medicaid, is lack of transparency. So we
really need to doge Ohio Medicaid. And we have a director,

(02:02:41):
Director Jada Brady. She's the director over the Joint Medicaid
over Site Committee and in my part of the budget,
which unfortunately several of those things have been removed. Now
I'm hearing in the Senate version of our budget increases transparency. Now,
why we would want to decrease trans parency in the
Ohio budget as curious to me, as you had stated earlier.

(02:03:04):
With Republicans in charge, I can't answer that, but I
have a call to one of the senators on Saturday
morning and I'm going to ask them about that. But
we have I increase transparency in the budget for Director
Braid to dobble.

Speaker 9 (02:03:17):
We'll see what's going on.

Speaker 15 (02:03:19):
The current director of medicaidas shall we say, not as
transparent as I would like.

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
Well, maybe because that person doesn't want to see how
poorly and inefficiently the system is run.

Speaker 15 (02:03:31):
But you know, Brian, I mean, if someone's an alcoholic
and they realize they have a problem, that's when we
get somewhere right, that's when they go get treatment. So
if we and we know that we do in huge
government programs Transparency will only help us get well. Transparency
helps us fix the problem. You know what, we know

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we have a problem. It's like we know there's something
going on, and.

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Quite often under those circumstances, there will be an intervention.

Speaker 9 (02:04:00):
Y's right.

Speaker 3 (02:04:00):
People, the family members are responsible in this particular alcoholic
related type scenario. Are the representatives and senators in Columbus
that need to intervene. This is one department within state government,
and you all know who the problem is, and you
all know where the problem is. It's time to stand
up and have a sit down conversation and say you
need to get your blank together and start saving you

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know how taxpayer dollars and everybody else in the country's
dollars by not wasting so much by letting the problem fester.

Speaker 9 (02:04:29):
That's right.

Speaker 15 (02:04:30):
Well, Representative Davilla has been the one started the intervention.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
Jack Whitwindsor from early in the program got his information
and that was at least he got the ball running.
That's right, man, and I hope he scores it.

Speaker 15 (02:04:42):
Can can I just say Representative Davilla is a Navy commander.
I mean those of us who've been in the military
are we are used to working hard, and we're also
used to government, but we also are used to accountability.
And I love that Representative de Villa through people that

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have helped him in his district. They're the ones who
brought this, you know, to his attention and showed him
where to go. You know, it's a government of the people,
for the people, and buy the people. Davilla acted because
he had someone behind him saying, hey, you probably ought
to look at this. So he looks at it, and
so we get transparency. We need to have that. And

(02:05:23):
he's the intervener. And again as Director of Medicaid, if
I can have people and other legislators bring not the
Director of Medicaid, the chair of the Ohio Medicaid Committee,
bring bills forward to reform this program.

Speaker 9 (02:05:39):
Every little bit helps.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
I think it's a topic we can probably address in
the remaining three minutes of this segment before we go
to break. So six hundred million dollars for the blank
in Cleveland Browns Complex. I don't want the Bengals to
get state taxpayer dollars that you might talk in earlier
about our local tax commissions. That's where the tax came
to build a stadium in the first place, that was
our decision as Hamilton County voters. We made We made

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the wrong decision. Perhaps we made the right decision, doesn't matter.
That's where it came from. I don't know if we
ever got any state money for that, but I find
the concept of giving private owners of businesses and mean,
oh my god, it's the Bengals. No, it's a business.
You know, you're not giving the guy down the street
with the mom and pop store, the convenience store, whatever,

(02:06:23):
state tax payer dollars. There's no line to stand in
for them to hold their hand out and say, hey,
can I have a part of the money. So why
is it that we're supposed to pay for that in
any way, shape or form.

Speaker 15 (02:06:33):
And why should people in southwest Ohio be taking out
a bond for a Cleveland stadium?

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
But here's that was the worst proposal because the bond
would have been paid for over twenty five years with
interest rates, and it would have been to be more
like a billion dollars. So they've thrown that out in
favor of raiting this this fund that no one knew
we had.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
I was unclaimed fund one seven billion.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
I read it was four point seven.

Speaker 9 (02:07:00):
Wow, Okay, baby, you're right.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
They got a pile of money. Oh was this grab
it from that? Like wait a second. First off, you
had that that pile of money, and apparently you're allowed
to take from it to give it to the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 9 (02:07:13):
And shouldn't we save that for property tax?

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
See that's welcome that.

Speaker 15 (02:07:17):
Let me tell you, let me go back though that's
six hundred million though, Ohio people are on the hook
for that. So not that a billionaire is going to
default on a loan or a bond, which is a
loan right to them, But they're putting fifty million dollars
of earnest money down like buying a house six hundred million.
But if they defaulted on that loan, the Ohio people
would be on the hook for the five hundred and

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fifty million.

Speaker 9 (02:07:38):
That's the truth about that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
That's kind of like student loan for business.

Speaker 15 (02:07:42):
So so my sixty five and over who just retired
are having a hard time paying their property tax, are
giving a loan to the Cleveland brown stadiums the stadium there.

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
So quickly, do you have any idea who has the
pictures of the people who proposed this and voted for it,
because clearly there's some information out there that wants to
be kept hidden otherwise, I don't know how the Cleveland
Browns ends up with all that money to the exclusion

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of literally every other sports team you know, minor league
or professional. You know, Ohio State's got a football field,
they got a great team, since at Bengals are there,
we got FC Cincinnati. I mean, the list is seemingly
endless of people could have their hands out in the
sports realm alone. So how is it that they got it?

Speaker 15 (02:08:33):
Well, I believe that there was pressure obviously in the
Ohio House of Representatives to support this, But the day
before the vote, I got a request from Paycorps, right,
they want some you know, a different version, and then
FC Cincinnati, so we of course do.

Speaker 1 (02:08:52):
And then you're handing out money to sports teams.

Speaker 15 (02:08:54):
You're going to ask everybody else is going to want
it too, So that was part of the reason we didn't.
It's not that we don't like Cleveland. I mean, we
love the Bengals better down here, of course, but but
we don't. But we don't believe as conservatives that that
this money should really go in that direction.

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
So that's my only point. It is not against the
Cleveland Browns. I got no problem with the city of Cleveland.
People who live there. I think they're they're they're Ohioans,
they are my neighbors, exactly. I've been to Cleveland, you know,
I don't care about that. If it was Columbus, or
if it was hell War in Ohio was getting this
kind of money.

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
I'd still asked the same damn question. It's not right principle.

Speaker 9 (02:09:32):
Let's go back.

Speaker 15 (02:09:33):
So the Senate is changing that funding from a six
hundred million dollar bond in the House budget to taking
the money from the unclaimed funds pile in.

Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
No, but that's to me, beyond the point or beside
the point.

Speaker 9 (02:09:45):
Right, right, It's it's Ohio money.

Speaker 1 (02:09:48):
It's Ohio money.

Speaker 9 (02:09:49):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
It's my taxpayer dollars. It's your taxpayer dollars, and it's
going to one family.

Speaker 9 (02:09:54):
It shouldn't happen.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
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Speaker 3 (02:11:05):
We got a few minutes left with Jennifer Gross again
representing District forty five here in the state of Ohio,
doing a great job. This morning Jennifer and enjoying our
conversations and then topic near and dear to your heart.
And I just sent Maureen an instant message saying, hang around.
You're gonna love this because she just sent me a message.
Maureene listens in Florida, but she is all over and

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has been all over the whole COVID nineteen, the vaccine,
the cover up information, and YadA YadA yah. It's one
of her favorite topics. And she shows, I got another
conspiracy for you. So she's self deprecating in that regard
because a lot of things she's told me over the
years of like, there's no way anyway. One of the
things we learned during COVID nineteen is that the pharmacies

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were not allowed to fill ibermactin prescriptions. And I found
that quite offensive, and I didn't realize that they were
able to interfere with a physician's practice of medicine. The
physician is a diagnostician. There is such a thing is
off label use of drugs. We've been doing this forever
and if the physician and his infinite wisdom, after talking

(02:12:06):
with his or her patient about the potential downside risk,
and we've tried this that hasn't worked.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
We tried.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
I've got an idea. Maybe this will help you get
the relief you need. They were stopped from doing that.

Speaker 9 (02:12:18):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:12:19):
Cold, No, you're gonna lose your license. That to me,
that blew my mind.

Speaker 9 (02:12:23):
That's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 15 (02:12:25):
So my answer to that in Ohio was HB twelve,
which is due to be voted out of the Ohio
Health Committee this week. So if you have a representative
in your district, or even if you don't, and you
like a bill, it's called the Jeff, Dave and Angie
Right to Try Act. And Jeff Smith was a man
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the hospital to get ivermectin and then unfortunately she paid
seven thousand to get it, and then the local judge
took it away, and then Jeff died in the hospital,
and so and then Dave and Angie also up north.
They also died in an Ohio hospital. Patients were requesting averramectin,

(02:13:10):
hydroxychloroquin budestinied numerous other drugs Brian but there was only
one drug and that was remdy severe and a ventilator
and Unfortunately, physicians lost that opportunity to say, you know,
I think we ought to try this. I have doctor
witnesses that have come up to the state House and
spoken about how they were not allowed to utilize different treatments,

(02:13:35):
and this bill protects that patient provide a relationship, the
sacred relationship. Also allows the physician to have free speech,
which was vetoed by the governor last year with a
similar bill like this one of mine, and so we
came back again. I believe that patients and providers need

(02:13:57):
to have a private, safe grid relationship, and that pharmacists
the important part of the team and collaborators with the team,
are not the prescriber. They don't examine the patient, they
don't look at the patient, they know their history and
and so there are there are a lot more details
to the bill. Main opposition is the Ohio Pharmacists Association.

(02:14:20):
Oh shocking, and that's unfortunate. But not all pharmacists are
against it. I mean some pharmacists did dispense but but
but a lot of people did not, and there was
pressure for them not to. And when a patient gets
prescribed to medication, Brian, who do they return to if
that that medication is rejected, they go back to the

(02:14:41):
physician who prescribed the treatment. Now, this bill allows if
the pharmacist says, hey, this is going to kill the patient,
they don't drug interaction.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
That's what pharmacists are for. No, you're taking that medication.
If you take this one on top of it, you're
going to die.

Speaker 15 (02:14:55):
And that is protected in this bill. They still have
the ability to do all of that, but they don't
get to tell a physician I'm not going to give
this because I don't I don't agree with your plan.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
I'm not going to give you this because Moderna came
up with a vaccine. Well, that doesn't mean you have
to take the Moderna vaccine. You're entitled to try something
alternative and that, you know, especially with a demonstrably safe pill.

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
Yes, you know, I remeke them.

Speaker 3 (02:15:18):
It's been around for decades, it's solved all kinds of problems,
and you may reject the idea that it's going to
help you with your COVID and you're allowed to be
in that camp. That's where the informed decision comes in. No, No,
I believe what everybody's telling me, that you're crazy to
take a orse warm pill or whatever. But it's been
well documented that you know, in the final analysis it
did actually kind of work for a lot.

Speaker 9 (02:15:37):
Of folks, and it's over the counters.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
Well, that's why the pharmaceutical companies hate it. Because it's
no longer subject to a patent. It can be manufactured
inexpensively and cheaply, and.

Speaker 15 (02:15:49):
People don't understand that sometimes. And I want to remind
your listeners that twenty to sixty percent of all prescriptions
prescribed by providers are off label. So doctors see that
it works for something else that it wasn't originally indicated
by the FDA, but the FDA determines any drug that's
out there is safe for human consumption.

Speaker 3 (02:16:09):
Well, that's how you got vi ager because it was
supposed to be a blood pressure medications, right, And they
pet guys were coming in and going.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
Hey, can I get some more of this?

Speaker 3 (02:16:16):
Like well why Like they discovered, oh my god, it
really does work, Amen, and making made billions and billions
and billions of dollars stumbling upon it as an off
label use. Jennifer Gross, this has been a wonderful conversation.
You can come in anytime. We'll talk again more. And
I appreciate your time with my listeners of me today.
Thank you Brian stick around, I heard me the aviation

(02:16:36):
next where Jay Ratlowe joins the program. Next we have
a long list of topics with Jay and I hope,
I hope you'll wait around for that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
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I listened all day at work.

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I listened because they talk more than just politics.

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For every day going to work. The traffic, the talk
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In the weekends and the garages I work on my
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Oh, I love the top on air and on the iHeartRadio.
I wish I could listen more on fifty five KRCZ talkstation.
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Tomorrow.

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We get a cloudy day up until the afternoon evening
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sixty five low and rain and some storms are expected Saturday.

Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
They say maybe a.

Speaker 3 (02:17:38):
Little rain but just a possibility, but otherwise mostly cloudy
with high of seventy seven.

Speaker 1 (02:17:43):
Seventy three Now traffic time from the UC Help Trampic Center.

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through Lachland Butterworth Roads blocked off above Loveland near Mainville
Road due to a tree down. Chuck Ingram on fifty
five to Euroce the talk station.

Speaker 3 (02:18:18):
Hey, thirty one, fifty five carsite talk station. I love
Thursdays at this time because you get talked to. iHeartMedia, aviation,
extort and all around. Great guy. Jay Rattliff, Welcome back, Jay,
my friend. Pleasure to have you on as always.

Speaker 5 (02:18:30):
Hey, it's a highlight of my week. Brother. So yeah,
I'm glad it's.

Speaker 3 (02:18:34):
Thursday, and we have a seemingly unlimited number of topics
to go through today based upon the list you gave me.
I didn't know you do you know why I did that? Though, Okay,
you didn't mon any curveballs.

Speaker 16 (02:18:44):
There you go, nineteen different topics. There's no way I'll
get a car. Forgive me for underestimating your curveball ability.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
My friend, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:18:53):
You have any boy, but you always hit him. You
always hit him. I mean, you know, I'll tell you
a curve ball, you hit it. Ye listen, it doesn't
matter whether it's a slider or Yeah. I real quick
without having to go down that road. I saw Boeing's
paying one point one billion to avoid prosecution for the
seven thirty seven knots crashes.

Speaker 16 (02:19:15):
No criminal charges. We're not gonna, you know, we're not
gonna say that we did anything criminally. We're not gonna
blah blah go to court where it might be drag
out and a lot of this stuff be rehashed. But
you know, you and I talked about that's exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:19:27):
What was going to take place.

Speaker 16 (02:19:28):
Oh yeah, look, look when President Trump was elected and
I saw Boeing and all the airlines lining up to
donate one million.

Speaker 5 (02:19:34):
Dollars to the Trump Inaugural Fund.

Speaker 16 (02:19:38):
My thought, here we go again, Yeah, because they're going
to be allowed to pull this crap time and time
and time again and once again yeah Boeing after admitting
they did things, in my estimation criminal criminal.

Speaker 1 (02:19:50):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 16 (02:19:52):
No, no, absolutely, I mean other than money. And the
families are just like beside themselves thinking what does it
take to get justice or just deliberate over an extended
period of time that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:04):
Should have resulted in a massive punitive damage award. Anyway,
Why would United Airlines want to delay additional cockpits safety requirements?
You think that they be all over that.

Speaker 16 (02:20:17):
Well, you know, the thought is right now, the safety
and it's just not United, it's it's several airlines, but
it was right now. The safety protocol is if one
of the crew members in the cockpit needs a laboratory,
you've got the flight attendant who gets the beverage cart
and they block access as best they can to the
galley area into the cockpit as the door opens and shuts.

(02:20:39):
And the thought has always been, we've got to have
something that is more secure than just a male or
female flight.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
Attendant beverage cards. It does so kind of half assed, but.

Speaker 16 (02:20:50):
Again it's it's the best we can do. So it
was decided in now two thousand and nineteen, but then
finalized in twenty twenty three that we would have a
secondary cage door, if you will, that flight attendants could
pull locked shut right there at the beginning of the
galley that would in essence prevent anybody from getting where

(02:21:11):
near that hallway between the galley and the cockpit, where
someone could exit the cockpit, go the lavatory and come
back out without any worry at all of anyone being
able to access the cockpit during a time when that
door is open. The Airlines were given in twenty twenty
three a two year deadline until August of twenty twenty
five to have this underway. Any surprise that they're nowhere

(02:21:35):
near that August twenty twenty five deadline, So right now
they're asking for two more years, and I suspect in
two years, my friend, you and I are gonna be
talking about them requesting another extension, because here's my thought, Airlines,
if they can take a pickle off of a sandwich
to save X amount of fuel per year, they're.

Speaker 5 (02:21:54):
Going to do it.

Speaker 16 (02:21:55):
Now they're being told to add a very heavy security
cage to the aircraft, when many of them may think
this is Jay's speculation. Here, Wow, what we're doing works.
Why do we have to add extra weight which costs
us extra money blah blah blah to the airplane when
what we have right now works. So that's why when
a lot of these bozos talk about safety, is are

(02:22:17):
number one priority? I just want to throw up or
throw something at the TV or whatever I'm watching, because
I'm thinking, no, it's not. If it was guess what
two years ago, this would have been a priority. It wasn't,
not one bit. And the thought process is that eventually
Airbus m Boeing will be at least offering on their
package of options, the ability to buy an aircraft with

(02:22:39):
one of these you know, caged yeah type, which is
a secondary barrier to the cockpit door which is already locked,
and then you've got something else that, when needed can
be put into place simply swing and locked and when
not needed swings right back right.

Speaker 1 (02:22:55):
You know, at least you can say that it's the
way it costs issue. Period.

Speaker 3 (02:22:58):
In the story, they're not again security they're just against
moving in that direction because of the thing.

Speaker 16 (02:23:03):
If you want it delayed, can you not say that
you're not as security minded as as we like? And
again that's my speculation, that's my opinion. That may have
nothing to do with it. But if airlines are consistent,
and believe me they are, you'll look at a lot
of things that the FAA recommends, Hey, you should do
this because the engine has had issues. Well, no, right,

(02:23:28):
you're not being forced to, so they're not in you know,
contray or any contradiction with an FAA mandate they were offered.

Speaker 5 (02:23:36):
They said no, yeah, but believe.

Speaker 16 (02:23:37):
Me, safety is still are number one priority. The engine
blows up and they're like, oh, yeah, I guess, I
guess we'll check there.

Speaker 3 (02:23:45):
The door flies off. Eight thirty seven will continue after
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Speaker 1 (02:23:56):
And stuff like that. And you've got a lot of
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Speaker 2 (02:24:02):
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Speaker 1 (02:24:04):
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Bill getting the economy going again.

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Harrow stand off with China Russia and Ukraine a severe
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the high rain likely over night Friday as well. Storms
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high Saturday with mostly fatday skys. It's seventy three right now.

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Northbound seventy five.

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Just a few break fights between buttermilk and piles, then
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Speaker 1 (02:25:14):
Have you ever been in a cockpit before? Hey? Forty
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Speaker 3 (02:25:19):
Jay Ratliff has I ared me the aviation expert going
through the topics. I want to jump ahead on your
list because I'm wildly curious to know why the TSA
is warning travelers against using airport charging stations.

Speaker 5 (02:25:31):
They're being hacked.

Speaker 4 (02:25:32):
Oh no, what happened.

Speaker 16 (02:25:34):
What happens is a lot of times when we travel,
most of us carry with us the devices we need.

Speaker 5 (02:25:39):
To recharge our electronics.

Speaker 16 (02:25:41):
Sure, but sometimes you go to an airport and they'll
have the central charging station with a lot of different
outlets that's provided by the airport, and you go up
and you know, just plug it in and go right. Well,
apparently some individuals, through technology that I don't understand, have
the ability to utilize these charging stations, and if somebody

(02:26:02):
charges the device, there's a way.

Speaker 5 (02:26:04):
That they can hack into that device while.

Speaker 16 (02:26:06):
It's there, allowing them to gain access to everything that's
on your device, which means passwords and financial information and
anything else that you might have happen to have that
you use that device for. So the TSA thing being
very careful as you do this, because several people have
reported this taking place.

Speaker 5 (02:26:24):
It's a lot like the ATM.

Speaker 16 (02:26:27):
Sometimes people slap something on there that looks like where
you would put the card, and when you do, it's
not to access the ATM or whatever. It's for somebody
to read the information, get your information, then use that
to steal from you. And it's a similar type approach
here where these charging stations are being used as a
conduit for people to access some of our private information.

Speaker 3 (02:26:50):
A little advance into tech. Friday's Day Hatter. Every Friday
at six thirty.

Speaker 16 (02:26:54):
I'll leave that dar brother Dave to go deep in
the weeds there. That's as far as I can go.

Speaker 3 (02:26:58):
That's great, Okay, Now, how is it that airlines are
charging solo travelers more than couples?

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
I mean, don't.

Speaker 3 (02:27:06):
Aren't tickets purchased individually, whether you're going as a couple
or an individual.

Speaker 16 (02:27:11):
They are, But then you're you're giving airlines far too
much credit. If there's a way that they can zing us,
they're gonna do it, because what happens is a lot
of times when you have people that are traveling, let's
say on a couple, they're traveling, they're cost conscious and
as such, what happens is they'll look for the cheapest
fair and they're not as interested in schedule as much

(02:27:36):
as they are in the cheapest fair. But individuals are
traveling by themselves. Many times it's for business and they're
secondary cost conscious, primary the schedule. So what has been
found out is there have been occasions where we've had
airlines that are charging for if you had a couple

(02:27:56):
flying round trip on a specific route, it might be
two hundred and sixty six dollars per person round trip.
If you put in a search for one person traveling
on the same dates, same flights, same airline, it's not
two sixty.

Speaker 5 (02:28:10):
Six, it's four to twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:28:11):
Oh wow.

Speaker 5 (02:28:13):
And the thought is, wait a minute, time out here.

Speaker 16 (02:28:15):
We're all on the same airplane, we're flying at the
same time, and checking what airlines are doing is saying,
you know, that business traveler has to be there, so
let's you know, I had a little premium to that
man or woman's fair. So it's it's something that you know,
forgive me for saying this, but it's true. It would
never have happened under the Biden administration. This kind of

(02:28:36):
crap where airlines are blatantly doing things, is that the
Bide administration would have done something about it. It just
you know, and I told you, I said the bide.
Deministration drove me crazy. There was nothing I liked about
it other than they held airlines accountable. And the Trump administration,
which I'm thrilled he's our president. The airlines are going

(02:28:57):
to be given some latitude. So if I'm traveling by
myself on an upcoming trip, I'll be checking the airline's
website as well a third party website, and I will
be checking for two people flying from here to Vegas
or wherever I need to go to on business. And
then I'm going to change that search from two people
to one, and I'm going to make sure it's the same.

Speaker 1 (02:29:17):
Fair There you go.

Speaker 16 (02:29:17):
American Airlines, American Airlines, United and others have been caught
excessively charging passengers and they're gonna say whatever craft They're
gonna say as far as well, it's based on demand,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (02:29:29):
Yeah, it's based on.

Speaker 16 (02:29:31):
Them trying to squeeze every penny out of us as
they can't. And when you catch somebody doing that, if
they're your airline of choice, maybe find another airline.

Speaker 3 (02:29:41):
Yeah, there you go. Appreciate the pro tip there too.
Day it's eight forty five, will continue, won't get through
the whole list today, though we've got some good stuff
to go over. One more segment with day Ratliffe a
series of events.

Speaker 2 (02:29:55):
The most important event make four eventful days the Middle
East making.

Speaker 5 (02:30:01):
Peace deals and trade deals.

Speaker 7 (02:30:02):
Gatari funded air Force one.

Speaker 9 (02:30:04):
It's a great gesture.

Speaker 11 (02:30:05):
Cutting pharmaceutical drug prices in these eventful times.

Speaker 9 (02:30:09):
More time to pass this big beautiful bill.

Speaker 1 (02:30:11):
Buying time with time.

Speaker 13 (02:30:14):
In any event important events, I'll press it into events.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
Checky everything that's happening in real top fifty five krs
the talk station. Final look at the weather.

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Rain, showers and some storms are possible and kind of
in waves eighty for the high. Overnight low sixty seven
with clouds Tomorrow in the afternoon and evening hours.

Speaker 1 (02:30:34):
String showers and storms will develop.

Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
We'll see high at lead Overnight rain is likely, maybe
some storms sixty five for the low and mostly cloudy Saturday,
high at seventy seven.

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Closing out at seventy two. Time for final traffic from
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Seventy five slows a bit fun.

Speaker 10 (02:30:59):
And to Carlo's been very heavy above seventy four to
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Speaker 1 (02:31:12):
He talked station Hey forty nine.

Speaker 3 (02:31:15):
I think about Kersee talks DAS one more with IRMDIA
aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. Jay Dave had it from interest
I to you is listening. You know what that concept
is called juice jacking. Juice jackie, juice jacking. So when
somebody's still.

Speaker 5 (02:31:29):
Going to steal that, I know, No, don't like it
was my word.

Speaker 1 (02:31:32):
It's a thing.

Speaker 3 (02:31:33):
I mean if if Dave says it, it's a thing,
I don't think he's pulling up the whole cloth.

Speaker 5 (02:31:37):
So he's gonna steal his words. Juice jacking.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
Yeah, I can.

Speaker 16 (02:31:41):
Guarantee you I will get it wrong and say something
totally stupid.

Speaker 5 (02:31:44):
It's close to that, but well we'll see.

Speaker 1 (02:31:46):
But thank you, Dave.

Speaker 3 (02:31:47):
You get a phrasing button from Joe on that as well.
All right, just because it's a funny story, and even
though I will be sixty in September, it still sounds
like something I'd like to do. The two year old
at Newark Airport.

Speaker 16 (02:32:04):
Cue the music mission Impossible music.

Speaker 5 (02:32:06):
I guess.

Speaker 13 (02:32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:32:08):
Mom and dad are checking in at the Jet Blue
ticket counter and this little two year old is doing
what two year olds do, just you know, everywhere. Next thing,
you know, he kind of gets away from mom and dad,
who apparently their attention was elsewhere, and he goes over
the little step over behind the ticket counter.

Speaker 5 (02:32:25):
The Jet Blue.

Speaker 16 (02:32:25):
Agents, yeah, I guess they don't seem he remains invisible,
and he gets on the baggage.

Speaker 1 (02:32:30):
Belt and down he goes.

Speaker 16 (02:32:33):
He's down and turning the corner before he disappears, before
anybody really spots him, and by that time it's too late. Now,
this isn't a toboggan kind of ride, because what happens
is those bags have security codes on him, or codes
that the labels that as it's going through there, they
had these large arms that are calibrated for bags that

(02:32:56):
could be forty to fifty pounds that move those bags
with some force to other belts that are going in
other places, so that the bags can be directed where
they need to be. Now, seriously, if a toddler was
down there, one of these calibrated arms were to activate
prematurely and strike the child, it would kill him.

Speaker 3 (02:33:16):
Oh oh yeah, it's oh so it's not as it's
not as comedic as I was thinking it would be
because we.

Speaker 5 (02:33:22):
Know the kids.

Speaker 16 (02:33:23):
Okay, no, but because we've had some we a lot
of times. You'll see them put the really really small
bags in a in a toboggan thing and the because
the reason for that is when the arms hit, we
want the carrier to take the force of it because
if not, you're gonna damage. Bag claims go lower as

(02:33:43):
those bags go flying off the wall. But what happens
is there's a video that's gone viral of a TSA room.
They're screening bags, several agents. It's black and white, and
here comes the belt down from the ceiling bag bag
two year old toddler, bag bag bag and then everybody
grammer to go grab him, and fortunately he was okay,

(02:34:03):
reunited with the careless parent.

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
Careless parents, Well, look.

Speaker 16 (02:34:10):
Every one of us have momentarily lost track of our kids.
You just don't want it to be in a point
where they can be in that kind of danger and
believe me, could have ended that way. But if you
if you want to a chuckle and I hate to
use that word, you can go to YouTube and there's
several examples of kids that just.

Speaker 5 (02:34:27):
Went for a ride.

Speaker 16 (02:34:28):
One poor lady who thought that the bag behind the
counter was the moving sidewalk to her gate and she
stepped on it and wrote it around until the wall
kind of knocked her down and she disappeared on the
other side of the wall. It was an elderly lady.
Fortunately she was okay. But wow, yeah, those things happened.

Speaker 1 (02:34:49):
I guess they do. I understand.

Speaker 3 (02:34:51):
Atlanta Airport is changing the way they screened their crew members,
the airline flight crews. What's this one about.

Speaker 5 (02:34:57):
It's called non crew members.

Speaker 16 (02:34:59):
It's a program that allows if you and our pilots
in uniform active duty lighting sentence as well, we can
actually go through a separate line at the airport for screening.
I found that most of the time, most of them,
we're not gonna be screened, okay, which be sure, I
D Boom will go right through. Occasionally the FA is
gonna pull one of us out for screening. It's called
random screening. That FAA loves random screening. I hate random screening.

(02:35:21):
But anyways, because I always say, if it's such a
good idea, my friends at the FA, let's do with passengers.
And of course we'll love to do that. But in
Atlanta brand they're finding all these pilots that have loaded firearms.
Oh wow, whoops, excuse me. So they're saying, I guess
this random stuff isn't working like we thought it should,
so they are going to drop that go to a

(02:35:44):
different crew members screening type program. It's probably still gonna
have some random nature to it, but something that is going,
in essence require more screening for the crew members. And
it needs to remember Atlanta was the place that also
did not screen employees from the time they went from
the parking lot to the ramp. It was random. And
they found out that there was a gun smuggling ring

(02:36:06):
by some Delta agents between Atlanta and New York, and
they decided, hmm, maybe we should start screening every single person.
It wor only handful of airports in the country do it.
And you I've talked about it forever, and I've been
talking about it for thirty years. You have airports that
have collectively across the country, probably a million people a

(02:36:27):
month that touch airplanes that aren't screened. If we're talking
about catering, if we're talking about the fuel, talking about
the ground agents. Now they are randomly screened, and I
always get mean emails from the FA anytime I say it,
are not screened, But I'm sorry, I don't look at
random as an effective means of security. Ladly, one of
these individuals could be coerced bribed into putting something they

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think is non dangerous on an airplane, only to find
out it very much is. Yea, and those types of things.
And again, we spend billions of dollars inside the security
for airports, and we showed we should totally do that.
But there's other measures we need to be taking. In Atlanta,
they're going to be making one of those changes.

Speaker 3 (02:37:07):
Fair enough, all right, as we do. We have to
part company, which I don't like, but we do. So
let's end on hub delays.

Speaker 16 (02:37:12):
Yeah, that's the quite fastest segment of the week for me, Detroit,
Dallas and Charlotte. And I think Charlotte's going to be
the absolute headache of the day. So if you're connecting
on America through Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (02:37:20):
Make sure they have Boay to get a hold of you.

Speaker 16 (02:37:22):
Get to the airport a little early because we're going
to be seeing some flight delays through that hub today.

Speaker 3 (02:37:27):
Really enjoy our time together, Jay. I look forward to
next Thursday and doing it again. And as always, best
of health and loved you and your better half. Take
care of my friend.

Speaker 5 (02:37:34):
You too as well.

Speaker 3 (02:37:35):
Thank you, heyf you five if you bub Kennasity Talk Station,
wonderful line up.

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Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
Joe Streker, Jack Windsor, editor in chief of the Ohio
Press Network and kind of investigative reporter hosts The Windsor Report.
We talked about medicaid fraud, which is a great springboard
of my conversation full hour with Jennifer Gross, representating District
forty five here in Ohio. We did talk medicaid, we
did talk about the the six hundred million dollars and

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other aspects of the budget, and we talked a lot
about property tax. So well worthy conversation with Jennifer's pleasure
heaven Or in studio and answered quite a few questions.
Plus Jay Rattliff you podcast all that fifty five KRC
dot com. Thanks again, Joe Stricker for everything you do.
I'll look forward tomorrow with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, who's
out there intrust it dot COM's rEFInd Dave and learn

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