55KRC Thursday Show - Ken Kober, Warren Davidson, Abe Lincoln, Tim McGrath, Jay Ratliff

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Will and that's the way.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, it is the way the news goes. Any very
happy Friday eve to you one week from Thanksgiving, Gay,
I love Thanksgiving. I really do hope you have some
good plans for Thanksgiving and that they don't involve getting
into political arguments. They had an article about that coming up. No,
don't be that family thanks Giving. Let's give thanks Let's

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not be the jerks that start engaging in screaming anger
maybe Trump arrangement syndrome, whatever's driving you. Let's let's move
away from politics for Thanksgiving. Would be a great time
to take a rest and pause and exhil a little bit.
You're allowed to do that, and you're also allowed to call.
I got a guest lined up here, give you the
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to everybody whose dreams really truly appreciate that. Uh yesterday's

(01:37):
e Vanfleet, I hope you saw the empower you use
seminar about Males America frightening stuff. At least remind conversation
whe her judge of Poltana what the founders feared. Congressman
Thomas Massey and the Epstein Files got some comments about that.
Jim Jordan brought up Massy just yesterday after Donald Trump
signed the Well Disclosed the Epstein File bill into law.
Time to get them thirty days the Justice Department hands

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the disclos the files and cars mess. He's made some
pretty interesting observations about who he says is going to
be revealed in the Epstein Files. Bobcorn's been out on
that one. Greg Landsman on House BILLT five to three
that was also there fifty five Caros dot com podcast
again when you can't listen live coming up Kenkober FOP President.
We got some money coming into the police department, some

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big spending I think between now in twenty thirty three,
forty one million dollars on some new technology we got to.
Of course, we have drones, we have tasers, we have
virtual reality headsets and data cloud storage, all coming from
one company, a company called Axon. Some are worried that
it's kind of becoming a monopoly, this Axon company. When

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it comes to well tasers, you know, the yellow tasers,
that's who makes them. But they also make the body
of the video cameras, the body the body cameras, that
make dashboard cameras. They make these virtual reality headsets so
the officers can be trained on proper taser usage, and
a lot of it of course proprietary. I thought it
was kind of funny since I inquires David Ferrari to

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the reporting on this, and there's a senior investigative researcher
for the Electronics Frontier Foundation. I've heard of that, Beryl Lipton. Anyway,
senior investigative researcher. Give her credit for the observation she makes,
but it was one of the well no crap concerns
about how this company's becoming so dominant and it's making

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departments well, relying on this technology, and because there's not
a whole lot of competition out there, she's a little
worried that, well, they might make it difficult for police
departments to go elsewhere. And I'm thinking, so, well, if
you were in Axon's position, wouldn't you make it difficult?
She says, Companies like Accent are very interested in getting
their customers and then keeping their customers. Interesting business philosophy,

(03:48):
isn't it, Joe getting customers and keeping customers, and nobody
does that. Never would have thought of that, She went on.
They can make the effort it takes to trans to
a different platform or offload information so great that customers
don't try to do that. Well, someone wrote no S

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word next to that. Oh that was me. Why would
Axxon have any incentive to make the moving of data
from their systems, regardless of what it is, including their
own cloud storage base, for all the information the officers
recording on their let's say, dashboard cameras or body cameras,
or the drones, because they make drones too, so I

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can't imagine access or action on havingy incentive to do that.
So they are apparently protecting their own turf. Once they
establish themselves, maybe they market a great product. There's no
reason to move I don't know. You know what, if
there is money to be made out in the world
along these lines with this technology, somebody else is going
to make it anyway. I'll see if Ken has any
problem with the company, any problem with the allocation of

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money the technology, well that's what we have them on
four six point thirty. With that, Congressman Warren Davidson returns
seven o five, we'll talk a little Epstein and now
that they have been released in the government's back up
and what's going on? What are we going to see
accomplished on behalf of the American people, Maybe more moves
toward energy generation. And I see that there's a whole
lot of movement. Thank God for the artificial intelligence, and

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for no other reason, it's causing us all to wake
up to the reality that windmills and solar panels don't work.
Don't work. We've got some nuclear power arrangements dealing with
a Japan's investment of hundreds of billions of dollars talking
about building ten brand new nuclear power plants. We've got
new We have a military bases now pursuing that Janus project,
which allows small nuclear reactors to power our American military bases,

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most utaly getting ahead of it in times of crisis.
So everywhere you turn, more and more embraced in the concept.
So it's abundant power. It can be done efficiently and
certainly on a far less expensive basis than we've been
done we've done in the past. Let's just move forward
with that. So maybe that's part of the conversation with
Congressman Davidson. Will find out together again at seven oh
five seven point thirty Empower You. We have a former president,

(06:06):
Abraham Lincoln will be speaking live. Remember Abraham Lincoln who
said if you read it on the internet, it's true.
Actually it's Larry Elliott. He portrays Late Abraham Lincoln does
school presentations and other groups. He's doing the Empower Youth
Seminar taking place at three hundred Great Oaks Drive if
you want to show up in person or log in
from home. One hundred and sixty second anniversary of the

(06:29):
Gettysburg Address. One hundred and sixty second anniversary that was yesterday.
It's amazing eighteen sixty three. So he will embody Abe
Lincoln as he does when he does these presentations, his
viewpoint of history, as he Abraham Lincoln lived it through
the heart and mind of Larry Elliott. So doesn't straight

(06:51):
out a character. He remains Abraham Lincoln method actor throughout
the entire thing. Well, it's an Abraham Lincoln morning. So
we have Tim mcgra coming up at eight five with
he's got a book called Three Roads to Gettysburg Mead
and the ad e Lee Lincoln and the Battle that
changed the Nation. So, uh, revelatory account about the Battle

(07:17):
of Gettysburg and the Three Roads that Gettysburg. Will learn
a little bit about it from him, and you'll be
able to get a copy of fifty five Carosea dot com.
He shines a light on a guy named George Mead.
Remember George Mead? Yeah, I don't either. I just find
it so amazing to talk to so many book authors
about so many conflicts war's boiled down, and you find
out even well, in this particular case, one hundred plus

(07:38):
years after the fact, there's all these extraordinarily influential people
in American history that you've never heard of. If you've
heard of George of Mead props to you. You know
a lot more about it than I do. And that's
what we're going to have Timograth on at eight oh
five and then yay, what happens on Thursday, typically on
the fifty five Cassee Morning Show. Well up until last
month or so, it's been I heard the aviation expert

(08:01):
Jay Rattliff. Jay's back. Thank you to all the prayers
you put out in hopes that he would get over
his bells palsy quickly, and apparently it's work, so he's
joining the program. At eight thirty, Trump administration has decided
to withdraw the cash compensation rule that would have required
airlines to pay cash for delays. FAA has ended the
emergency order mandating flight reductions that happen on Monday. Yay,

(08:25):
right ahead of the Thanksgiving week. And oh look on
the subject list with Jay. Thanksgiving week approaches are airlines ready?
And finally, late edition. Just because you paid for a
Windows seat, that doesn't entitle you to a view I
see set the article along as an add on. He said,
you want to talk about this as well? Oh yes,

(08:45):
I do. Entitlement mentality. Wait a second, I should to
be able to see out of the window seat. No,
you didn't get a window seat, you got the aisle seat.
Sucks to be You planned better next time. Oh and
also when we talked to Ken Culver Charmie mcguffe. You
remember her, Jae. You remember Charmeie McGuffey, don't you. She's

(09:05):
the sheriff kind of keeps a low profile except when
it comes to ribbon cutting ceremonies and like LGBTQ Pride
events and things like that. Anyway, apparently she's coming out
today to address violence violence in the city. Apparently, and
according to WCPO, overall crimes dropped thirty one percent in

(09:27):
July from a June peak and steadily declining every month
in Hamilton County, Sheriff Charmeie McGuffey, along with us, since
they please, Interim Chief Adam Henny and State Patrol Colonel
Charles Jones, gonna be addressing the success of recent crime
reduction efforts. We'll see what Charmie McGuffey has to say

(09:50):
about that. Do you feel like it's safer in downtown Cincinnati?
Maybe it will be wait to hear about the allocation
of resources four million dollars the city is allocated for
the purchase of a West End property. Question why are
they buying it? And dive on into that stick with
a couple of local stories this morning, stay around or
phone calls, that's up to you. Be right back after

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these brief words, relief, release it, release it all. Some
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Happy Thursday five one three, seven, four nine fifty five
hundred two three talk Contact fifty on eight and T phones.
So it's kind of going vacillated between issues on money
being spent because the city of Cincinnati has some extra
money laying around four million dollars since he's got to
be paying four million dollars to acquire a property near

(10:59):
one of the and this has got me worried. One
of the potential sites for a new arena, do we
need a new arena? In order of priority? Where's a
new arena given the finite amount of money we have
in the city of Cincinnati and this property acquisition is

(11:20):
not like we are going to build a new arena here.
They're just grabbing the property. It's a point eight acre
vacant parcel on by the Free Store food Bank, cross
Central Avenue from Town Center Garage, which the city owns,
right behind Music Hall. Potential location for a new arena.

(11:41):
Thank you the WITC since I inquire reporting also the
w CET. It's remember the since a public radio in
the CET building where CET still is. That's the one
we're talking about. The unanimously passed funding agreement council did
on the nineteenth yesterday may have tab purval. Other city
leaders said the purchase is not for and arena, but
for the city to control what they described as a

(12:03):
critical property.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I know.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Still as the enquire voids, oh property's location indicates it
could provide a key piece in the arena discussion. FC
Cincinnati officials, well, they approached the city about buying the land.
According to Jeff Grammerty Councilman Jeff Birding, one of the
FC Cincinnati owners co owners, been on one of the
leading proponents for the city getting a new arena, most

(12:33):
notably as long as it's in the backyard of FC Cincinnati.
I guess apparently FC had an option to purchase the
land from the Free Store, at least according to Jeff Grammerty. Anyway,
under this funding agreement, the city is going to be
giving the Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority the four
million dollars to buy the land. They then acquire the
land from the Free Store for three point five million.

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The additional half a million dollars apparently includes and other costs.
Thank you, Liam. I was waiting for that, Joe, Actually
I really was. I hope just fingers on the whatever button.
Uh Purvol greased palm index. Thank you. Yesterday's meeting, Mayor

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said the city is not purchasing the property for an arena.
The city is purchasing the property to put it under
city control and not in control of an out of
town landlord whatever court of Purvol. Quote. It's not meant
to be a purchase specifically for an arena close quote.
He also said the city's interest is in this is

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not for any specific project, whether it be an arena
or anything else, but rather for the city to have
control and not some other investor developer that doesn't have
the city's interest in mind, he gives us more control
over what goes in that critical place. I just consider
all the potentially available land around the city of Cincinnati
that the city doesn't own itself. This is the one

(14:03):
piece that they have to allocate four million dollars to acquire.
And has there been a discussion on their actual need
for an arena? Oh, adding insult to injury, let's move
out county wide. Remember that thirty percent rollback that we

(14:24):
were promised when we agreed to pay for the stadium. Yeah,
well sucks to be You never believe a politician get
it in writing and have it part of the ballot initiative,
or you're not going to get the promise rebate. So
before we reprove the half sent sales tax to fund
the construction and maintenance of well the Great American Ballpark
and now Paycorse Stadium. That was thirty years ago, if

(14:46):
you can believe it, at the time, our county elected
officials verbally promised a property tax rebate. We were gonna
get back thirty percent of the annual sales tax proceeds.
Right Remember that. No, it wasn't including the ballot in language.
So they played fast and loose with it since they
made the promise. That promise was probably one of the
reasons people decided to go ahead and vote to build

(15:06):
the Brown family a stadium to be used by and
exclusively for their team. So we have a new memo
from County Commissioner Jeff Aaludo recommending a five million dollar
total rebate equal to not thirty percent, four point five

(15:27):
percent property tax rebate, described as one of the smallest
rebate levels ever and causing you to see a higher
tax bill. If this it's doing idiot things because there
idio is maybe misapplied. If we had one that said
liars committing lies, because that, well, they're liars and their
politicians will be more appropriate here. That means for every

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one hundred thousand dollars a property bag, you're going to
get a whopping twelve dollars and fifty one cents. Had
it been the actual thirty percent rollback, you would have
gotten eighty two dollars and twenty seven cents per one
hundred thousand. That was the promise they made, you, Commissioner
to the Denise Treehouse, reflecting back on the promise that
the then elected officials running the county promise back in

(16:11):
the nineteen nineties now describing it as unrealistic and that
the stadium fund would go broke if the county gave
the full rebate every year whatever, the stadium fund would
go broke. Huh, thank you appreciate that, liar. There you go.

(16:35):
You know, actually I was going to a request shoe
Henry Rawlins, liar, that would have been an outstanding bump
to play before. But you know this was elected officials
thirty years ago. They're the liars. Or does the obligation
to make good on a promise to the taxpayer in
Hamilton County does that survive the prior administration and extend

(16:56):
on into current administrations. I would make an argument that
it does. Well, we could vote them all out, but
you know how that goes, Joe. We are the embodiment
of the definition of stupidity doing idiot things because they're
idiots doing the same thing over and over again, expecting
a different results. Jays on the phone, Jay, you'll be
first out of the gate. Feel free to give me

(17:17):
a call, but.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Break back fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's five twenty nine, it's Thursday. I'm going to happy
one to you one week from Thanksgiving over the phones. Tom,
hang on, Jay, guy ahead of you this morning, Jay,
thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Hey, good morning, two days in a row in front
of Tom. Something's off. I'm going to have to delay
this call going.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Forward or call earlier. Either way, it's okay. Jay.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Usually I call in and I'm complaining about the government
waste and abuse. But you know, this morning you were
talking about law enforcement tech, and I have a brainstorm
here of how we can save money across the Ohio
and Hamilton County and therefore free up some money for
Iris Rawley more of her consulting fees, or maybe another stadium.

(18:04):
I think what I have, Brian, is a solution where
we can take the cost of ankle monitors down substantially.
The ankle monitor, if I just did some quick research,
it costs about let's say forty I think it's aid
four hundred and fifty dollars a month for the service
fee to monitor these things. And let's say we have

(18:25):
about one hundred of them for a given locale. So
let's just let's say fifty thousand dollars for the city
of Cincinnati or something like that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I have a solution.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
The cost of fraction of that has it's just as
effective and monitoring what we currently have. And it looks
a lot like a shoelace that you just tie around
your leg. It's completely reusable, it's easy to take off.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
The.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Criminal doesn't have to try to cut it off. And
again it's one hundred percent is effective. And we're thinking
maybe we just put that like Ohio official ankle monitor
on on that shoelace and tie that around the criminal's
leg and thereby free up about fifty grand for every
city across the state of Ohio. And that adds up
when you think about it. And again, one percent effective

(19:12):
as our current solution.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Your point being a shoelace, non technologically advanced shoelace, plain
old shoelace and a designated color is as effective as
the ankle monitors see Sarah Herringer correct.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
And I would be even willing to just take that
maintenance fee down to two dollars a month collectable by Jay, and.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
It's still a fat profit margin. Jay. Consider the cost
of a shoelace.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Well, you drive a tough bargain, Brian, So I'll cut
it in half one time only, we'll take it down
to a dollar a month. But I'm looking for a sponsor.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So if it could say fifty five KRC on that.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Shoelace sponsor, maybe I get my dollar back.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
No, I just centered into another possibility. How about sponsoring
actual anchor ankle monitors and using the profit from these
sponsorships to actually have people monitoring the ankle bracelets.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh you mean privatize it to where there's a profit
involved in a private business that could actually do something.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Maybe that do that Axos company has a it's foot
in the door with taking that.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
They call them ankle monitor monitors.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
There you are.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You're on the right track.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Hey, don't don't don't vote Democrat, don't vote Rhino.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Off the Tom off the top. Thanks Jay, Yes, as
this tradition. Tom, thanks for calling this morning. Appreciate appreciate
hearing from you.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
In case no one got it, the absurdity was intentional
to point out another absurdity.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh indeed. Yeah, that's high comedy right.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
There, right, no good stuff. I have no problem with
with Jay going in front of me and taking this
spot whatever. I always get a lot of information out
of Jay and and usually a good laugh too, So
thank you. Very much. Jay, appreciate it. I I wanted
to talk about money being spent by the government. You

(21:07):
talked about the city buying that that plant of land.
Another one that I was talking to Joe about was
co Rane Township buying the old Seers store in the
in the soon to be defunct North State Mall. Just
what there's what two stores left in it or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Tom, I did not even know that that was still
open in any form.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
So okay, right, well you can't. I don't think you
can go into the mall itself. It's just like they
they made some stores the Socide Basic Cole Raine. They
made some stores that you you would just entered directly
into the store from the side.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
So the interior mall concept has been closed down, Jee
Strecker said, most of it. It's shut down on the inside.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yeah. Yeah, there was a there was a furniture store
that moved across the street. Uh and then yeah, so
but yeah, Coraine Township decided to buy the Seers store,
just the store, just the Seer store, and that no
one knows why. They haven't stated a purpose, but's just
taxpayer money. You go, we'll just kind of buy this.

(22:10):
You don't even have a plan. You don't know what
it's for. You can't even tell us that, hey, we've
got this grand plan to do something with it. No,
it's just there's there's a big pot of money. Let's
find something to spend it on or we won't be
able to ask for more next time, which which we
all know is is a big part of all these
levees and and you know these budget requests at these

(22:33):
what whatever government level it is, we have to spend it.
That way, we can say, oh, we ran out, we
need even more this year than we did last year.
And it's it's a farce. What what happened to representing
our interests and maybe help lower our taxes or something
like that any that, I know it's a crazy idea,

(22:54):
but you know why, why why aren't we getting people
in there that are doing that and and holding them
to a Yeah, you're not going to hold politicians to
a promise like that. Maybe if you get it like
enshrine into some law or something like that so that
you know, somebody can actually take them to court and
a judge can hold them accountable. But unless you got
something like that, you know, well, whenever a politician speaks,

(23:17):
you can just assume they're lying, especially if they're Democrat,
especially if they're Rhinos. So don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.
Have a great day, a man, brother.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, and you know, listen, get it in writing. This
is a profound lesson that has been learned as a
consequence of this refusal over and over and over again
to give us what was promised verbally. Roll back. You
were entitled to thirty percent of it, baseball. Your politicians
told you why wasn't in in the ballid initiative? Maybe
because from the get go they knew damn well that

(23:49):
you were never going to get it. In other words,
they lied to you, You were duped, and you fell
for it. Let us be a valuable and to everyone
when we're considering these ballot initiatives, the promises made orally
versus the written language that you're asked to consider. Five
thirty five fifty five KRCD talk station stack o stupid

(24:12):
or phone calls, either way you want to go, I'm
alright with That'd.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Be right back fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Five thirty nine fifty five kr CD talk station Friday,
even the return of I Hurt Media abs expert Jay
Ratlife at eight thirty. I'm so happy he's back. God
bless you, Jay Rattliffe. We have a lot of guests
lined up this morning, including Congressman Warren Davidson at seven
oh five, five one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred,
eight hundred eight two three talk pound five fifty on
at and T phones. This is absolutely horrific and disgusting

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and should be a giant red flag for all parents,
even parents of very young children who are attending school
and are apparently being taught by perverts, twisted, depraved individuals.
They may be at the head of the classroom. Yeah,
positions of power children involve. This has happened with members

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of the clergy. You may recall incidents of that. We
got a Connecticut where a former what is described as
a paraprofessional teacher admitted to texting an eleven year old
boy almost five thousand times, handing him gifts including Apple AirPods,

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and keeping him awake with caffeine because she was sexually
assaulting him when she arranged to meet with him in
late night hours. Forty four year old married mother of two,
Alison Krannik pleaded to go to the federal charges of
course and an enticement of a minor to engage in
sexual activity cour to the US Attorney's Office for the
District of Connecticut and announcement earlier this week. She lured

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the child to meet up with her over a course
of several months in twenty twenty two, driving him around
at different locations where she then forced him to engage
in sexually explicit conduct with her. She was an admin
assistant with the E. O. Smith High School in Mansfield
until she was fired in September of twenty three. She
met with a boy at least fourteen times, some cases

(26:09):
with public school employee coercing the boy to sneak out
of his house after midnight. He's eleven, driving around Columbia
leg Corus Porter School in Columbia or the Salmon River
State forests, where she would sexually assault the miner in
her car when it was late at night. She would
buy caffeinated drinks for him to keep him awake and

(26:32):
ordered gifts for him and gave him gifts like Apple AirPods,
also a pellet gun, which is really appealing to an
eleven year old boy. Started messaging the boy over text
on Snapchat, then suggested they move over to the messaging
platform Discord. Why because she had learned that one of
the child's family members would check the youngster's messages. Huh,
as well as social media accounts. That's a responsible parent

(26:54):
doing the right thing. Sadly, there are options for the
weirdos out in the world, and they're aware of this
kind of thing, and they'll change platforms on you. So
there's another thing you need to be aware of, Mom
and dad. Between July and October of twenty two, she
and the boy messaged more than forty seven hundred times
on this discord platform. She even made the boy a bracelet.

(27:16):
This is how perverted and twisted she had. She made
him a bracelet with the acronym BB or BFFLWB best
Friends for Life with Benefits. Apparently, the preteen boy cut
off contact and refused to meet up with her after
she emotionally manipulated him into spending more time with her.
That's according to the warrant. They launched an investigation into

(27:41):
the sexual assault in September of twenty three. She was
arrested in November of that year. Federal charges handed down
in July of last year, case investigator of the FBI's
Child Exploitation Task Force as well as the Connecticut Police Department.
She is now facing and deserves, in my estimation, life
in prison with a mandatory minimum of ten years imprisonment.

(28:01):
Let's go for life February twelfth, next year sentencing.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
EERI is the biggest douche of the universe, in all
the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached
the top, the pinnacle of douche dom. Good going, doue, your.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Dreams have come true. Sharing in that award, we go
to a New Jersey police sergeant, former Democratic mayor Andrew
le Bruno, who was arrested this week in charge with
aggravated sexual assault and sexual assault as well as endangering
the welfare of a child. Jersey City Police sergeant Andrew

(28:46):
Lobruno accused of drugging and sexually assaulting the child he
met on There You Have It, a social media app.
Investigator say he went to the child's home in Englewood,
New Jersey, where he sprayed an unknown substance onto his
hand before placing it over the victim's mouth and knows,
causing the victim to have experienced dizziness.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Do what the hell.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
The forty four year old Oh again, forty four and
married father of two. I see a theme going on here.
Joe then sexually assaulted the child, who was physically helpless
as a consequence of being drugged. Nine one well call
reportedly made a police who responded to the scene, where

(29:31):
they found the victims suffering from cognitive impairment. Child taken
to local hospital for treatment. Thority say they had enough
probable cause evidence to arrest this La Bruno pervert, citing
statements the former Democrat mayor made at the scene of
the crime, which were captured on body cameras not known
if it's their Axos body cameras or not, as well
as the victim's account and corroborating physical evidence. Use your imagination, God,

(30:00):
spend it without pay. Immediately after the arrest, thankfully, curly
being held without bail in the Bergen County jail obviously
not in Hamilton County in front of Judge Silverstein. But
oh yeah, oh yeah, Joe, Yeah. I hope he's having
a really, really good time. I hope he's getting a

(30:21):
lot of attention, A lot of attention. Five to forty
five ifty five KRCD talk station. More stupid coming up
or phone calls. Feel free to comment. I'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Fifty five KRC see.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Fifty five pair CD talk station. FOP President Ken Kober
coming on to the bottom of the next hour. You're
talking about this forty one million dollar police tech expenditure
from the City of Cincinnati. Also, we'll get a little
insight to what Charmeie McGuffey. Yeah, she's the sheriff, remember her. Anyway,
she's could be holding a press conference talking about how
crime is down in the city of Cincinnati. We'll get
ken Kober's reaction to that in advance of actually hearing

(30:55):
something uttered from Hamilton County Sheriff Charmey mcguffee. Anyway, back
to this stack is stupid. Portland, Oregon man robbed a
liquor store while an employee was suffering a cardiac arrest.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Do what the happened?

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Man?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
We got a lot of people piling on and added
to the award winners this morning. Took advantage of the
medical emergency emergency to steal eight hundred dollars roughly from
the safe, before then abandoning the victim, who was again
struggling with the cardiac arre ass. Fifty three year old
Jason Hay had the heart attack while working at Bin's
and Barrel's liquor store. Security camera footage shows a man
pretending to help Hay during the medical emergency before stealing

(31:33):
from the store and then running away. Dozens of friends
of family members held a vigil for him, talking about
how he's everyone's best friend, spent most of his life
in the area. His sister said her brother would have
been able to identify the suspect if he was still alive.

(31:54):
Hey left behind a wife, Willissa, and a fifteen year
old son. Portland police still investigating the store robbery and
their of course, asking for anyone's help who might have
seen this miserable piece of excrement. Imagine that not even
placed on a nine to one to one call. There's
some terrible, terrible human beings in the world. Oh look,
we're on a theme this morning, terrible human beings in

(32:16):
the stack of stupid. Oh this is fantastic. Thank you
Judge Checker for the editorial comments. You're a woman until
you're not a woman. Defense attorney for a Washington State
lawmark maker thought a motion to dismiss a case involving
indecent exposure charges against the client Transgendersvenson City councilor Lucy Lausser,

(32:38):
actively involved with Antifon networks. Lausser is accused of unlawfully
exposing his quote unquote breasts during an anti Trump protest
in July. He's a man who identifies a woman. It's
a man man. District Judge Rainier presided over oral arguments

(32:59):
on Monday, canncerning his motion to dismiss. I was waiting
for that which mandates of the prosecution of defense agree
in all faction ahead of it for being to be prosecuted.
According to defense attorney Brian Pruitt, my client was protesting
the current presidential administration's executive order, which basically put in
place that under federal law that there are two genders

(33:20):
and that every person is the gender that they were
assigned at birth. That's highly offensive to my client, and
as a result, on the fourth of July, she chose
the protest in a way that clearly addressed that issue.
This is back in July this year protests outside the
County courthouse, Blausser exposed his breast by removing his shirt

(33:41):
now she would prefer that I say he she anyway
confusing It always is painted on one arm red paint taped.
His mouth and the nipple part were painted in black
and inscribed quote woman Life Freedom across his chest. The
top display intended to challenge President Trump's executive order in

(34:04):
restricting sex change procedures for miners and barring men from
competing in women's sports teams, which Lauser would was publicly
decrying as dehumanizing. Prosecuting a deputy prosecut prosecuting attorney argued
the judge that the counsellor's conduct was against the law,
referred Lauser with female protown pronouns during the proceedings. Because

(34:24):
miss Lauser's protest was nonverbal in the message was unlikely
to be understood by those who viewed her conduct, it
could be analyzed as mere conduct and not protected speech,
and is thus easily found to be obscene. Asked the
judge to find that there is at least a possibility
that a reasonable juror could make some the same judgment.

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She said, the law is ambiguous, and when there is
an ambiguity, such as that, it's our duty to prosecute
and bring that question before the court. Laoser told reporters
after arrest, I couldn't think of a better method of
protesting the president, calling me a man taking off my
shirt and getting arrested for it. Defense attorney pro would

(35:06):
argue that Laoso's conduct did not amount to indecent exposure
because his nipples were covered in black. It's the amount
of exposure that a person would have if they were
wearing a bikini. He spoke to the judge, arguing that
if there was a person in town who was male
on the fourth of July and was walking down the
street without a shirt on, we would not have a

(35:27):
prosecution for obscenity or indecent exposure. Conduct if it's topless
in nature, is speech enless. There's some sort of sexualized behavior,
the lawyer argued, standing there, protesting is not trying to
incite arousal in any way, shape or form, nor would
any rational human being I might subjectively Internet find that
arousing in any form. So, in essence, because men can

(35:52):
go topless, this man professing to be a woman can
basically go topless and it shouldn't be an offense. Hence
Joe's editorial comment, So you're a woman until you're not
a woman because you want to avoid prosecution. Fair enough, Joe,
I'm gonna give it to you on that one. Coming
up a five fifty six fifty five KRC The Talk Station. Yes,
this is a real thing. These are real people making

(36:15):
these real arguments. Get your head around that. Try to
wrap your head around that. Ken Kober FLP President coming
up at six thirty plenty to talk about between now
and then. I certainly would love to hear from you.
If you feel like calin, feel free to do so.
Be back after the.

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Lincoln and some folks you've never heard of. Very influential
they were, and we're going to find out about who
they are. With Tim McGrath at eight oh five, preceeded
by continuing a theme in reverse. Former President Abraham Lincoln
joins the program. Now this is Larry Elliott at seven thirty.

(37:17):
Got an empower Youth Seminar tonight. He's going to be
portraying President Abraham Lincoln. He does this with you know,
groups and schools and things like that. He actually shows
up and is the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln. He puts
himself in Abraham Lincoln's character. It's like method acting and
doesn't step out of characters. So when you're talking to him,
you just may as well pretend that you're actually talking

(37:39):
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You can show up in person or log in from home.
And I hope you rivet to log into that seminar
last night from g Van Fleet and I really enjoyed
the conversation with her. Frightening stuff and a real warning
to America to wake the hell up that you're head
and headlong into communism. Marxism highly influenced by the chain,

(38:00):
and he's Communist Party Congressman Warren Davids at seven oh five.
The other the Epstein files coming our way thirty days
from now. Donald Trump signed the bill into law yesterday.
Now get your popcorn out and wait and see who
is uncovered in the release of documents and the comical exercise. Invariably,
the Department of Justice is going to go through trying
to redact most of the critical information, keep the names

(38:21):
of some very powerful people hidden. Apparently Ken Kober FLP President.
Bottom of this hour, we have forty one million dollars
for new tech, most all of which is going to
one company AXOS. Don't know whether he's got a problem
with that, but we're talking about purchase an acquisition of drones,
some cameras, dashboard cameras, tasers, virtual reality headsets which are

(38:43):
apparently used to train the Cincinnai Police Department officers on
how to use tasers. All these products, including the storage,
for example, the video that's gathered, the information that's gathered
from the various devices, all stored on this company's own
servers Axon, which they claim is well, it's better than
keeping it in house. So anyway, that'll be Ken cobra

(39:05):
bottom of this hour five three, seven, four nine fifty
five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three taco
pound five fifty on AT and T phones, you know,
and on the on the heels of that that ridiculous position,
the transgender woman, guy pretending to be a woman was
making that he she could go topless because you know,
no guy would get cited for indecent exposure if he

(39:25):
were topless. Well, she, I guess chose to be a
woman in the moment that she got cited for indecent
exposure at a rally. I just wanted to think about
I wanted you to think about this. When you're relying
on information from your government. They they don't really do
the research and investigation. They're out there relying on studies
depending on what you're talking about, like global warming. Remember
the hockey stick. Al Gore said, we're all going to

(39:47):
die in eight years if we don't, you know, eliminate
carbon from the environment. Yeah, here's the research which shows
that we've got scientists top notrement on the job telling
us that, yeah, we're all going to die, and over
the passage of time that never happened. Right, you can
look back, look at the dates that you had. These
people say that we were doomed to all die, some
of them predicting that human population will be completely eradicated

(40:08):
because well, we breathe or something. They picked and choose
which studies, And if you were a heretic and you
showed another study which was equally at least in terms
of peer review or analysis, equally credible as their hockey
stick or whatever modeling that they were relying on, they
basically would crucify you. You were thrown out of the

(40:28):
science and basically losing your credibility, your status. Doctors who
questioned COVID nineteen vaccines talked about maybe ivermactin, maybe that
masks don't work. They were kicked out of the profession
in essence, ostracized, demonized. Enter JFK jr. Now I asked

(40:49):
to the gender transition stuff. Health and Human Services Department
published a new set of guidelines yesterday, updating the prior
report regarding the dangers of pediatric gender transition medicine, adding
external peer reviews to the list to help them support
their conclusion. Quote treatment for pediatric pediatric genderdice for you,

(41:12):
review of evidence and best practices. That is the name
of the supplement, which has now been expanded upon incorporating
nine peer reviews, one from American Psychiatric Association, nine replies
to those reviews from noted scientists, the names of the
report's contributors also identified. The apartment points out these peer

(41:33):
reviews confirmed or failed to undercut the initial finding that
harms from puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and surgeries are significant,
long term, and too often ignored or inadequately tracked. Now
you may remember Rachel Levin, Admiral Levin, the first transgender

(41:53):
guy or whatever, saying previously defending gender transition treatment as
in his her words, medically necessary, safe and effective for
trans and non binary youth. That is now being disputed.
Admiral Brian Christine now in that role. So the prior
administration of my predecessor, Rachel Levine of Levin manipulated and

(42:16):
betrayed vulnerable families. The Trump administration has the will now
and we will never ever abandon you. The point being
that these peer reviewed studies which are now incited and included,
all point out that there are dangers associated with this.
There's an LGB Courage coalition out there which also agrees
that this stuff is dangerous. They said, look that the

(42:37):
contributors themselves, the people whose peer reviewed studies were cited,
those who chimed in on the peer studies. These scientists took,
in the words of the lgbtwo LGB Courage coalition, took
real risks to their professional careers and personal safety by
letting their names be released. In this political climate, these

(43:00):
authors were willing to question the status of the medical
evidence and push scientific inquiry to function the way it
must in order to safeguard young people. There were affirms
what many of us have been have seen firsthand. LGB
youth deserve protection. Now, these are the folks that are
presumably supposed to enjoy the benefits of gender transition surgeries

(43:23):
and hormones. They're saying, no, you never took into account
the dangers. You never went around and interviewed people who
went through this surgery with horrific results, only to live
with what amounts to permanent, lifelong regret for having gone
down that road. At least this administration is acknowledging that, no,
you know what, there are dangers associated with it. They

(43:44):
didn't conclude that it's absolutely outright verboten. But they also
pointed out something extremely important that this isn't conclusive that
it isn't harmful. There's no conclusive proof that these treatments
are not harmful. Here a whole bunch of studies would
show that they are harmful or potentially harmful. Let's have

(44:06):
pointed out that a lot of countries have flipped the
opposite direction. According to this Admiral Christine, the new person
in charge around the world, countries like the United Kingdom, Sweden,
Finland have already shifted course emphasizing what I think is
important psychotherapy and mental health support for children confused about
their sex. Christine also said, and it's a long time

(44:28):
that we do the same in the United States. How
about providing the United States population with all of the information? Now,
different topic, same argument. CDC has now changed this website
regarding vaccines and whether or not they may have a
connection with autism, whether or not you believe it does.
According to the revised website, the claim vaccines do not

(44:52):
cause autism is not an evidence based claim because studies
haven't ruled out the possibility infant vaccines cause autism. Studies
supporting that link have been ignored by health authorities Previously.
The page said studies have shown there is no link
between receiving vaccines and developing autism, so your left to

(45:13):
conclude that there is no connection. There is there, I
don't know, but apparently there are some studies out there
which suggest there may be a link. In other words,
they point out that the research has not been done
to see whether or not there's vaccine there's a link
between vaccines and autism. As a consequence of that, you
need to know that there may be. It's part of
making an informed choice. Every time you take a pharmaceutical

(45:36):
that's been issued, what's on the box black box labels,
warning labels. If you take this, you may experience, you know,
in limited cases or sometimes the following like death. Don't
take the medicine if you're allergic to the medicine my
favorite warning of all warnings. But those are allowing you
to make an informed decision.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I'm a little worried about this whole hemophilia thing. The
thing says we're going to have problems with clotting blood.
I've already got problems with that. I don't want to
take that medicine informed decision, so This is a common theme,
is why I kind of put it all together. You
got global warming, here's the studies. Yeah, but what about
all these studies autism vaccine, here's the study. Well, what

(46:18):
about the lack of evidence in these other studies suggesting
the link gender transition. There's nothing wrong with surgery for
miners and hormone blockers. No, no, no, there happens to
be a bunch of research which says they are harmful.
You might want to consider that JFK Junior or RFK
Junior turning out to be a pretty good guy from
my perspective. West Side Gym, you're next. I got to

(46:41):
take a quick break here and mentioned my friends at
Gate of Heaven Cemetery. It's a Cat six twenty one
fifty five krc DE talk station. Happy Thursday. You gonna
go straight to the phones day. West Side Gym's kind
of up the hold over the break there, Steve, hold on,
you'll be next. Jim, welcome back. My friend's always a
pleasure hearing from me. Thank you for the photographs of
sunset before and after. I loved that, as well as
the speed humps in front of Price sal Chili. That

(47:02):
I'll be able to see for myself at listener Lunch
coming up first Wednesday of December. Good to hear from
this morning, Jim.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 10 (47:10):
Yeah that was I saw him putting up a sign
yesterday that said in honor of Brian Thomas, this is
a thoroughfare for Brian Thomas thoroughfare.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
You know, I would love to be able to say
I had some some tiny influence on finally getting Sunset paved.
It's almost like we need to get Thomas to shut
up talking about our failures and allowing Sunset to become
the war torn road that it looks like it came
from for the past two decades. Okay, let's go ahead
and fix it. What did it take a week?

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Jim?

Speaker 10 (47:40):
Yeah, it's as smooth as a baby's butt. But I mean,
you know, when you tear up a street and then
redo it with reebar and the whole bit, it takes
a lot longer than just a few days to a
week to post some blacktop on. No, I'm not complaining
because it's smooth. I mean, it's nice, and there are
portions of it that they skipped over. I don't know

(48:01):
why they did that, but those speed humps is basically
what I wanted to talk about because.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
You saw that.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
Can you imagine what are they gonna do skip that
when the snow comes down, Because if the snowplow hits
those things, that's going to dig them right up.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I couldn't agree with you more. At least that's the
appearance they gave. But again, these aren't attached to the
road with reebar. They're not a fix, and not a
permanently permanently a fixed. It's like they came with a
pile of asphalt, put a mound of it, and then
compressed it down. So if you hit that sideways with
a snowplow, that's gonna cut it. Seems like we'll pop
right up. We'll find out.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
How do you think that?

Speaker 10 (48:34):
It's not even asphalt, Brian, It's blacktop, so it's not
even durable, like you know, weuld get like a concrete
or asphalt something like that. But you know, I just
wanted to call in for your listeners.

Speaker 11 (48:45):
I know they can't.

Speaker 10 (48:46):
They're not going to make a special trip out there
to see what sunset looks like. But if you hit
to we've complained about it for so long. If you
had to drive that thing before and after it's it's
it's almost pleasurable. I was, I made that trip yesterday.
But sending you those pictures, I know it's it sounds stupid,
but no, it's one one thing for the West Side.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, you know, it just serves a great illustration of
the incompetence that the road has been so bad for
so long and that they did something to it just
pleases me to know when I'd love to be able
to take credit, but I'm not going to. I'm not
even going to suggest for a moment that I can.
But they did eliminate it, eliminate that as a topic
for me to spring from from this point forward. Jim, Well,

(49:29):
remember now it's gonna remember how bad sunset was for
twenty years.

Speaker 10 (49:34):
Oh yeah, I mean that'll be a topic for the grandchildren.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Well, and you've got before and we'll soon look for
after pictures. Let's let's wait for the winter time to
go through a couple of snow episodes about six eight
months of traffic, and then we'll see what the speed
humps look like in front of price heal Chili, appreciate it,
Jim Brian.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
Yeah, real quick, I did see a couple of cars
go flying down that middle lane yesterday and just hit
them like normal. I mean, people just don't really care there, stupid.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Apparently they obviously don't care about their cars either. Yeah,
that's their issue to Thanks brother, always good hearing from you, Steve.
Welcome to the show, and happy Thursday.

Speaker 12 (50:09):
Thank you, Good morning, Ryan. I love your show. I
got a couple of resources for people that are interested
in examining the vaccine issues and autism.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (50:21):
The first one is on the web. It's a free video.
The title or the website is an Inconvenient Study dot com.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Fair enough.

Speaker 12 (50:35):
Inconvenient Study dot com. It compares the health of completely
unvaccinated kids to the health of fully vaccinated kids, and
I'm there.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It provides a nice breakdown of that. You know, it's
just again one more illustration of the volume of material
that's out there that isn't all consistent. Now, I can't
pass on the credibility that particular page, You're not, Steve,
but it is a resource. I always encourage people look,
look at the citations, look at where the information came from.
Is it a credible source of information? And at least
we now have an administration under RFK Junior that is

(51:08):
looking at alternative narratives and alternative information so you can
make an informed decision. And I think that's a step
in the right direction because so many things, a political
agenda is what is trying to be achieved here, Like
with the LGBTQ pronouncements that gender dysphoria should be addressed
with surgery. Really no one out in the scientific world

(51:29):
thinks that could be dangerous. No, it might be dangerous.
There's studies to suggest that. But the agenda is this
whole concept that no, no, no, if you believe you're
the opposite sex, we should embrace that and encourage that.
How disruptive is that to life? Generally speaking? It's just
one more of those topics of division, and it flies
in the face of all logic, common sense, and just

(51:50):
plain old fashioned science. Chromosome based reality, men or women
defined by your chromosomes and also your genitalia. So I
don't stand gender confusion. I'm not a psychiatrist, a psychiatry
or a psychologist, don't play one on radio. But my
whole philosophy boils down to look down. What do you
see there? There's the answer to the question six twenty

(52:13):
six right now fifty five Thanks Steve, fifty five KRCD
Talk Station. It's six thirty one, fifty five CARSD Talk Station.
A very happy Friday, EU to you. Welcome back to
the fifty five cars morning. She always enjoy hearing from
FOP President Ken Cover. That of course is Chapter sixty
nine FOP representing the Sincinni Police Department. Ken, It's always
pleasure having on the show. Welcome back, my friend.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Hey, good morning, Brian, Happy Friday.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Happy Friday, Eve. Yeah. David Ferrara, reporting for The Enquirre,
says the Cincinnati City of Cincinnati's now spending forty one
million dollars to obtain some new technology, all of which
comes from this company called Axon, which is the company
that started it started by manufacturing tasers, but apparently has
expanded its options to body cameras, drones, virtual reality training headsets,

(52:59):
and then a cloud based platform that this company operates itself,
where all of the data collected from this technology the
police officers have is stored basically under their corporate umbrella.
I'm going just first start by did you see the
reporting on this. Is there anything that you view? The
police department generally objects to where things is unnecessary or
do you view this infusion of cash and technology as

(53:21):
a positive thing?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Cane And honestly it's positive. Actually, I was out in
Scottsdale at Axon's headquarters a couple of weeks ago. They
invited forty FOP leaders from around the country to kind
of it was just a forum to go over the
current technology, know where they're planning ongoing future technology, and

(53:43):
I'm telling you advance some of this stuff that they're
creating is absolutely phenomenal. The CEO is the one that
put us on. Awesome guy who's geared around making police
jobs easier and safer.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Now you've got me intrigued. Can you just give us
a little thumbnail sketch of what might he coming down
the road from this company? I'm wildly curious.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah, So there's a lot of things that they want
to do. A lot of it's AI based to be
able to make cops jobs easier, like body cameras. You know,
there's there's technology already out there, and one of them
they showed a video where if if you're familiar with
like Google Translate with different languages, yeah, they have it
on body cameras, so if you're talking, Yeah, and actually

(54:26):
we're going to be getting that. I'm understanding very soon
in the near future. I came back from this conference,
met with some leadership and they're like, yeah, this is coming.
So a video that they showed us from New Mexico
where an officer was dealing with somebody that had committed
a crime. It was Russian. Literally puts a couple buttons.
It indicates on the body camera that you're now in Russian.

(54:47):
You speak in English. It spits it out to the
guy in Russian, the guys, here's it. He listens to it,
he responds, and then it translates from Russian to English
right back to you, and it does it an any
language in America or in the w world.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
That that is cool. And you know, obviously you know,
say what you want about the illegal immigrant problem we
have coming in. I mean documented that people from countries
all over the globe, multiple different languages flowing on in.
That is that's an amazing development right there.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Absolutely, Like I said, those are those are some of
the things that that they're trying to create. And like
I said that the CEO of this company, he's driven
based off of trying to reduce police involved shootings and
if he can do that. Like one of the ways
they have a new taser that we're going to get
I know is and that report this taser can and

(55:38):
it's you know, these tasers have been pretty effective, you know.
But his goal, and he told us in the next
like five years, is to have these tasers where they're
like ninety nine percent effective. He is, I know, I'm
not going to prevent all police shootings. Is, but we've
done statistics where we've seen that there have been police
shootings where a taser was deployed and it failed and

(56:00):
then the end result was a police involved shooting. Is
if I can, if I can keep that from happening.
He's like, obviously, if a god pulls out a gun
and he points out you, you're going to have to
do a hipping protect yourself. But if you have somebody
that's that's experiencing a mental crisis and they're just standing
in their front yard with a knife and an officer
is able to find cover, you know, whether they're behind

(56:20):
a car or whatever else, safely deploy a taser to
be able to take them into custody without having to
kill them. Although they do have the right to protect themselves,
up to including deadly force. But if they can prevent that,
that's good for everybody. It's good for society, it's good
for cops, it's good for everybody.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Well, in the new design tasers, do they provide additional range?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yes? Absolutely? Yeah, the taser ten Now that like I
said that the police department's going to be getting here
at the beginning of twenty six they will shoot up
to almost fifty feet.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Wow. Yeah, and presently is what more like ten feet?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
They're up to about twenty five feet roughly. Now, okay,
but I mean just the whole design a lot of things.
It actually makes it safer for the person that's being
taste because they've changed some of the internal technology. So
there's a lot of things that this company is doing
that is serving the public. And I know, I saw
the article, you know about how they have a corner

(57:20):
on the market, and you know, if other companies want
to come up with stuff that are just as good,
that police department should buy it again.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I just I thought that was rather comical. The one person.
Companies like ix On are very interested in getting their
customers and then keeping them. This can make the effort
it take the transfer a different platform of offload information
so that customers don't try to do that. Well, no kidding,
welcome to capitalism. Yes, of course they want to retain
their customers. So what you're the boiled down version of

(57:47):
what I'm hearing is there is nothing wrong with this
Axon company. They're not evil, nefarious, They're doing good for
the people. And who can argue with a less deadly
form of dealing with someone who represents a significant harm
to the unity. This is not something that Iris Rollie
is going to come out and scream about. This is
something that someone like her has to embrace. Ken Cober,
we got more technology to talk about. Plus the meeting today,

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Hamilton County Sheriff Charme McGuffey emerging from her cave to
talk about how safe it is in the city of Cincinnati.
We'll get your comments on that as well more with
FOP President Ken Cobra first speak. You know, it's not
Tech Friday, it's FOP President Ken Cober Thursday talking about
the new technology the Cincinnati The City of Cincinnati spending
forty one million dollars on over the next several years
access to the company providing the technology they apparently have

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not a monopoly so much, but they are the leader
in providing technology for law enforcements. Can explain altruistic designed
to save lives. That's what they're all about, and they
are the largest provider of this type of equipment. Ken Cobra,
I got to ask you because apparently we're buying and
already have acquired some drones. Then to enquire crunch the
numbers and they estimate for if you care, they come

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out to be about sixty two thousand dollars apiece. But
they're also maintenance fees and stuff like that. But in
the final analysis, I guess I'm kind of curious how
the City of Cincinnati, the police department rather utilizes the
drone technology. I mean, there's I envision, you know, sort
of an Orwellian reality where these things are flying around
all the time everywhere. But then I'm thinking, well, there
aren't enough people really monitor what the drones are viewing.

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So how does law enforcement utilize drone technology to the citizens' advantage?

Speaker 2 (59:21):
So the number one way that they use them outside
of like patrol, and I'll get to that is during
like swat situations. We've been using them for years, right
where instead of sending officers in. You know, if you
have a standoff in a building, they'll send a drone in.
Makes perfect which makes a hope, It makes absolutely makes
perfect sense. Not only is it protecting the officers, but

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as protecting someone there, especially if they're armed, then they're
able to see that in real time. And then obviously
the drone. Through the drone, they can communicate if there's
somebody in the building that's armed with a gun, they
can start giving them commands to drop the gun, drop
the gun. Once they finally drop the gun, they can
then give them command to come to any door, lay
down whatever they want them to do. That way, the

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officers can safely go in there and apprehend them so
nobody gets hurt. The way they're using them on a
daily basis are specific radio runs, you know, so they're
not just like flying around like you know, just just
waiting for something to happen. You know, if they get
a specific radio run where an officer goes, hey, a
drone would be useful, you know, whether it's a you know,

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a fight in progress, you know, at a specific location,
they could say, let's send a drone and see what's
going on. Maybe there's no fight. If there's no fight,
then we don't need to worry about sending officers that
are on the ground to go there. They can be
focused towards other things. But they also they also use them.
They use them fight a gun run.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
They get a description of a male wearing a purple
shirt at at third and Main Street, they can fly
a drone there find out first of all, is there
a mail with a purple shirt standing there? And number
two does he have a gun? And if he does, well,
then let's see how we can coordinate this effort. That way,
we could do this the safest way possible.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Well, I imagine they also have to be they'll arrive
on the scene probably a lot quicker than some officer
that's being dispatched from what District three or something has
got to drive halfway across town to get to the
actual scene. As the description says, these docks where the
drones are going to be stored are placed all across
the city. So is there one remote drone operation center

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that could deploy a drone immediately and then have it
arrive at the scene even before the officers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Get there, Oh, without a doubt, you know. But not
only that, it's like, you know, they're subject to being
recalled if there's not a current drone operator working and
they need one for something. All they need is an
Internet connection and they could fly a drone from anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
So if they're at home and they go, hey, we
need a drone right now, they could go log into
the computer and they could have a drone in the
air going somewhere within a matter of minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:01:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Which is it's incredible technology. That is Certainly it's going
to make officers a whole lot safer, which certainly is
why I'm a biggest proponent of IS. But it's also
going to keep the community safer as well when you
look at having to apprehend violent people that may be armed.
It's just a safer way of doing things. And it's
the future of policing, whether we like it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
And I'm glad you put that on the tail end,
because you know what I love about this is for
everything you pointed out, it's better for the officers, it's
better for us safer communities, but it also is the
orwell in reality that we are being video cameraed and
all the time. It's something we're all going to have
to guess get used to Ken Cobra pause. Apparently Charmie
McGuffey and others are going to be having a meeting today,
including the interim police chief, talk about how low the

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crime rate is in the city of Cincinnati. Will get
your insights and thoughts about this upcoming meeting. One more
with FOP President Kencober after cover Sincy What It's six
fifty thick about KARCD talk station Very Happy Thursday. Last Friday,
EVU Brian Thomas with the FOP President Cancober represented the
Cincinni's Police Department and doing a great job, and I

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appreciate your willingness to come on the program to talk
about these and vital issues. And of course over the
summer we had the July twenty six beat down. No
one forgets that it sort of set off alarm bells.
Of course, in the aftermath of Sarah Herringer getting her
husband stabbed to death in their over the Rhine apartment,
we've got a real problem with crime in the city.
Everyone's screaming about crime in the city and mayor a
have tab provol after well years, if not months, of

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saying there is no problem with crime finally acknowledge there
is and decided to move in a different direction with
law enforcement, taking the state up on some of the
offers of resources like the state patrols, and changing how
law enforcement operates downtown. They're going to have a press
conference day, haven't Kindny Sheriff Charmey McGuffey, Interim Police Chief
Adam Henny, and State Patrol Colonel Charles Jones are going

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to be talking about this. Ken Cober, is your perception
that crime is down since those turbulent months over the summertime?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Well, yeah, I mean obviously as soon as we go
into colder weather, things do seem to calm down. But
you know, one of the things that I just told
yesterday from an officer that was hopping to the off
duty up on Shortvine last Thursday, it said, you couldn't
swing a dead cat without hitting a cop.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
And when that happens, they had the state patrol there,
they had the city there. When you start doing those
things and you flood areas with law enforcement, of course
crime is gonna go down. I mean, that's just that's
common sense. That's what the horse have been trying to
beat for the last year and a half now well,
hiring more officers find they have to find creative ways

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to hire officers quicker, but they have to be qualified officers,
but hire them quicker, and that just is yet to
be done. But yeah, I mean, we're seeing it that
it's crime will be reduced when you have a bigger presence.
That's why they have cops on Fountain Square every day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It just seems so like, no kidding, what do we
do to reduce crime. Let's put more cops out there,
a police presence. Wow, that'll work. Okay, not exactly revolutionary, ken,
but at least they're trying to do that now. Whereas
I guess police up until a moment in time ago,
were perceived as some soul somehow, I don't know, triggering
a residents of certain communities like the presence of a

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police officer, we're going to cause people to break down emotionally.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And the reality is if you have that just that
presence is likely going to avoid having to take any
enforcement exactly. And if one knucklehead wants to act up,
then you deal with that person, and everybody else around
sees them and goes, I don't want to go to jail,
and I think I'll just not break the law while
the cops are around. I mean, it's pretty simple concept.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Okay, back to the topic of well, the solution of
the problem more officers, more officers presence, we are down.
We are still down a couple of one hundred ken
am I accurate on that? And the number is still dropping?
Or are more people in the drop program or we
are people taking early retirement? Where are we on that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
We are getting dangerously close to being under nine hundred again,
you know, with a complement of almost one thousand and sixty,
So I mean we're pushing one hundred and sixty short.
We're facing sixty to eighty retirements a year, and the
problem is we're only hiring about fifty five a year.
And I get it with the we can only have
one recruit class year. I mean, the reality is our

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academy staff doesn't have the means nor the space to
be able to run more than one recruit class at
a time. So they really have to start thinking about,
you know, thinking outside the box in unconventional ways to
hire new officers. And there are ways out there, there
are things that have been discussed so far, none of
it's been done so I'm certainly hoping that maybe here

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in the future they'll start listening and find a way
to get more people in the doors, especially when they
see that if you have these extra cops, you know,
these things will calm down, crime will start to go
down if you have more of a presence.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Well, you have two options, new classes or lateral hires.
So let's real quick with the new classes. If you
could do more than one annually, let's say they had
unlimited training resources, would there be enough competent, warm bodies
that would sign up to want to join the classes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I think you would, because what we're seeing now is
there are people going through like UC Claremont has a
police academy, Butler Tech has a police academy, and they're
filling their classes good And these are people that are paying,
yes to go to these classes, and they're paying upwards
of ten thousand dollars to be certified as police officers. Well,

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why can't the city of Cincinnati be capitalizing on those folks?

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Good point, excellent point. Insofar as lateral hires, since we're
almost out of time, you're in competition literally with every
other city that is looking for police officers. And you know,
going to a lower crime area maybe worth sacrificing a
bit of compensation. What is the biggest impediment to getting
lateral hires to choose the city of Cincinnati versus really
literally anyplace else.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Well, what we saw over the summer was City Hall
and the things that were being said from City Hall
and the perceived lack of support. And let's be honest,
it wasn't perceived, it was just actual that constant believe
they were being supported because quite honestly, they weren't being
forced to sign charges on somebody they weren't comfortable doing.
Who want to subject themselves to that? You know, we
have a new city council, were the same mayor. Hopefully

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their teams change, we can get that support back. I mean,
I look forward to working with them. Hopefully that comes
to fruition and you know, maybe we'll get back to
where you know, they want to support the police. They're
going to show that they support the police and that
will certainly have a major impact on recruiting.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah, he has something Christopher Smith has been saying for years.
Where is the administration, Where is their show of support
for the police. The silence is deafening. So maybe we
have turned a new page. I'm willing to remain optimistic
about that, Ken, and I wish you all the best
in the hopes that the city moves in that direction
and we have a safer city to show for it.
Ken Cobra, FLP President. Thank you so much, sir for
joining us and talking about these important topics. Looking forward

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to having you back on again.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Brian Solways a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Thank you, brother. Seven oh six at fifty five KRC
Decox Station, Brian Thomas right here. Always looking forward to

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talking with Congressman Warren Davidson and a man who's willing
to come on the fifty five Carcy Morning Show to
talk about important issues, and God bless him for it,
and God bless those in the eighth District, the district
that he serves for electing Congressman Davidson. Welcome back, my friend.
It's always a pleasure to have you on the fifty
five KRS Morning Show.

Speaker 11 (01:09:23):
Yeah, always an honor.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Nice to talk with you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Brian, starting out with a simple question, was this trip
really necessary? Of course, the Epstein files. Donald Trump signed
the bill to release the Epstein files. We got thirty
days for the Justice Department to probably make a heapload
of redactions before producing them, which will result in arguments
over whether the redactions were necessary or not. But we're
finally getting them overwhelmingly voted in favor of doing this.

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I guess my initial question for you, Congressman Davidson, do you,
because I asked this the Congressman Massy the other day,
kind of one of the guys behind this, this whole effort,
do you have any reason to understand Donald Trump's flip
flopping from promising to really used them on the campaign
trail to getting elected and then saying no, there's nothing
there and we don't have anything to release, to then

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changing tune after pressure from Congressman Massey and others to
release the files, to be unanimously voted on to release
them by both the House and Senate. I mean, I'm
just wondering how what happened, How did this end up being,
what became of it, What was the reason for this
flip flop?

Speaker 11 (01:10:25):
Well, honest, we probably will never know why he went
from saying, you know, we have to do this on
the campaign trail to saying at one point that it's
a hoax and you know, we just needed to drop it.
It's another Democrat effort to just really target him. But
that's the main interest Democrats have it. They never put

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an answer pressure on Barack Obama or Eric Holder or
frankly even Trump in his first term to go after Epstein.
Then when Biden was there no pressure on Biden or
Merrick Garland. So it's all just a desperate attempt to
try to get any any taint of anything on Trump.
And and so I think that's where Trump's like, no,

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you're just going to try to put something in the
headlines and go after him. I think there's other reasons there.
Speaker Johnson's also very reluctant to see unredacted information being
made public. He laid out some of those concerns. He
feels like it could harm national security. And I think
that's the implication is is, well, look, if we've got
intelligence services or frankly allies with intelligence services that are

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trafficking miners, we got to find a different way to
do intelligence, you know, and that should come out. Honestly,
that should come out, yes, and you should find a
way to work through it. I mean, it's a scandal
to cover it up. So there's going to be speculation
because like, way, how is it that Pam Bondi's got
binders full of information and ready to release it? What

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was in the binders? I mean, there was apparently a
plan to go forward and then suddenly it was like
cold turk, you know, nothing to see here, Let's move on.
I don't know that we're ever going to get an
honest explanation for that, But Pam Bondy was supposed to
come explain that to Congress while we had the shutdown
going on. She's supposed to come testify, So hopefully that's

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in the pipeline again. But honestly, I think one of
the best panels that could be done would have Pam
Bondy the current attorney general, the two previous the three
or four previous attorneys general, Merrick Garland from Biden's administration,
Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions from Trump's term, and go
all the way back to Eric Holder. He didn't do

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anything either. So how with all these previous attorney generals
and all the public things that have gone on about
Jeffrey Epstein and his clients and client lists and trafficked women,
and finally, ultimately during Trump's first term, you know, Epstein
was prosecuted, and so was Julane Maxwell. So what's the

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story on this case. I mean, that's what people want
to know. And when you put Julane and Maxwell, Julane
Maxwell in prison for trafficking miners, Yeah, well they were
trafficked to somebody. Yeah, we cure the rest of the prosecutions.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah, that's the whole thing. All of this invites speculation
and legitimate speculation. You know, Epstein's been previously identified as
maybe it was a CIA asset. How did a pedophile
become a CIA operative or asset? And you know the
other thing about the Democrats, Congressman David said, you know
this more than anybody. They made stuff up about Trump

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to go after him. The steel dott was whole cloth invention.
They lie. Then we find out now that January sixth, well,
you know, the pipe bombs being planted by probably an
FB are a Capitol Police officer now working for the CIA,
the point of that being to draw people's attention to
the bombs and shut the government down. I mean, we
don't have any trust out there in so far as

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that goes. But since they made so much stuff up
about Trump and tried to capture him with me up. Intel.
If there was something in these documents with all the
people that had the Department of Justice was weaponized against
Donald Trump, they would have released them, wouldn't they If
there was something real in there about Trump?

Speaker 11 (01:14:13):
Yeah, they would have one hundred percent they would have.
And look even when they tried, you know, last week
earlier this week to selectively release some references in email,
they redacted the name of the person that was in
the email, and she's been public saying Donald Trump was helpful,
he didn't do anything bad. So they are selectively trying

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everything possible. And here's the thing. Talk about the no
moral outrage, how dad Donald Trump communicate with Jeffrey Epstein
And they're going back to like two thousand and four
in the nineties, well, post conviction. Stacy Plaskett, the delegate
from virgin Islands, is real time texting with Jeffrey Epstein

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for what purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
To try to get Trump?

Speaker 11 (01:14:58):
Yeah, oh, we got to find some way to go
after Trump. And they're real time got pictures of her
in the hearing texting, and then you got the text thread.
And that was because not because of the Epstein files,
but because Speaker Johnson and the House oversight team Jamie
Kmer led a subpoena to get records from the Epstein estate,

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So you're getting extra information. So look, I think a
lot of the information was forthcoming. Anyway that can be done.
But to your point, and I think where a lot
of people are when I talk to them, is you know, yeah,
that's great. We don't really need more rage bait from Congress.
When is somebody going to jail?

Speaker 12 (01:15:40):
You know?

Speaker 11 (01:15:41):
And I think that's the frustration. We want evidence coming
out at trial where people are put on trial and
convicted if.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
They were.

Speaker 11 (01:15:51):
Girls that were paid for this stuff, right exactly. So
so that's the thing I mean, I think only Pambondi
and frankly the other attorneys general can answer that question,
like where are the prosecutions and if there's an explanation,
we'll let us have it and look at it. In
the speculation, either this guy was intelligence affiliated or he wasn't.

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That was the reference to alex Acosta when he was
going to prosecute in and they did a settlement in
a very friendly one frankly for someone you know, doing
what Epstein was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
No question about it. Well, the first the the first victim,
I mean, you can name others. Treasury Secretary Larry Summer's
now resigned from his board on open ai Elsa stepped
down from position at Harvard. He was texting back and
forth with Epstein seeking dating advice on it, how to
go to bed with some female mentee whose dad was
member of the Chinese Communist Party. So there's that. But

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then you had Congressman Mass saying he relied on US
attorney or US Attorney's office files with the Southern District
of New York, and he said out loud. Previously after
deposing cash Bettel, he said the files include a Hollywood
producer with worth a few hundred million dollars, one royal prince,
one high profile individual in the music industry, very prominent banker,
high profile government official, one high profile former politician, one

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owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star,
one magician. At least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada.
Where's pressure? Do you know of any pressure being put
placed on senators or representatives behind the scenes saying don't
release these I am mister one hundred million dollar powerful guy,
and you're gonna get hurt as a consequence of releasing them.

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Do you know, if that was actually going.

Speaker 11 (01:17:30):
On at all, well, we know for sure there's a
whole lot of overpressure being put on Congressman Thomas Massey
to not be doing any of these things, right. You know,
there are reports that there were pressure applied to some
of the people that had signed the discharged petition, and
then the tipping point came like once once the vote
is forced. And you know, I never signed the discharge

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petition because I felt like, yeah, we are making good
progress releasing it. The question I want is pam Mondy
when the prosecutions So that still was an answer, But okay, fine,
release the files once we're going to vote on it.
I think overwhelmingly people we're gonna Like I had said
last week, you know, I did an interview with CNN

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and they you know, supposed to talk about the shutdown
and reopening the government, and of course they want to
bury the lead there, so they go, well, what about
the Epstein file When this comes up, how are you
going to vote? Like, well, I'm going to vote yes,
but but I think the bigger picture is, yeah, sure,
disclose them. There may be something there that isn't already
being disclosed, So fine, disclose it. But the real underlying

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question still is where are the prosecutions? When is someone
going to jail? And disclosure isn't going to answer that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Yeah, And those those FBI files, apparently they must create
one of these files every time someone comes to them
with information about a crime. Those haven't been released yet.
Those are all the victim's statements. FBI had those. Why
wasn't anything done about it? Well, this is what will
be revealed, hopefully if the documents are indeed produced within
thirty days as they've been directed to by law. We'll

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continue with Congressman Warren Davidson. Find out what's next the
talk station seven twenty here fifty five care see the
talk station Happy Friday Eve. Brian Thomas here with Congressman
Warren Davidson, moving past the Epstein file. Now that that's
no longer a distraction, at least less of a distraction.
The government's shutdown was all over the Democrats' efforts to

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extend the tax credits for people making north of what
sixty two five hundred dollars. Those tax credit extensions are
the waiver of the cap was as a consequence of
COVID and LO and behold the deadline was approaching, and
so the government gets shut down because the Democrats want
to make these permanent. I think this has been quite revealing,
Congressman Davidson. And I'm wondering whether there's some project, piece

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of legislation, or proposal to fix the problem, which is
the cost of medical care. This reveals the insane reality
of Obamacare being fundamentally broken. If you think about it,
a family only a four, if you're making north of
sixty two to five, you're not eligible for a tax
credit for your premium. You might pay as much as
two thousand dollars a month for insurance that won't kick
in until if you have a family, you've paid twenty

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one thousand dollars out of pocket. That's not insurance, Congressman Davidson,
that is the revelation of a cossal failure.

Speaker 11 (01:20:21):
Yeah, I mean this is fundamentally the as Republicans said.
When you know, so far Republicans have uniformly opposed Obamacare,
or at least refused to get rid of it. That's
the famous McCain. Well, okay, I'm not going to vote
to get rid of it, but so far Republicans haven't
voted for Obamacare. In any way. Right, And here we

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are with these covid era subsidies that are going to
insurance companies, not the individuals, right, expire here at the
end of the year. And you know, Democrats, that's one
of the long laundry list of one and a half
trillion dollars worth of spending that they cite as why
they wanted to shut the government down. And look, all

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that is is to cover up for the fact that
Obamacare itself does not work. So of the places to
send the subsidies the dumnest places the health insurance companies, right.
I mean, the hospitals and doctors have expenses. You could
send it to them. But the individuals are the ones
that are trying to get cared for, so you could

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send the money to them. But when you've been sending
the money to the health insurance companies they did in
lower premiums. Premiums have been going up by double digits
every year, the out of pocket maxes keep growing, claims
are denied, you get things that are out of network
that are crazy. It's like, no, it's in the same
building house, it out of network. All these kinds of
things have people livid about the current state of health care.

(01:21:50):
Great quality, I mean tremendous doctors and nurses and care,
great tech, but the cost and the payment system is
a disaster. And look it was before Obamacare, but you know,
we'd need to be honest. Obamacare did not work as
a means of fixing it. And you know, frankly, shame
on the House of Representatives because you know, Democrats have

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kept wanting to say Obamacare is great while hiding the
fact that it isn't great. With more subsidies reinforcing you
know what for them has to be the brand, Oh,
we have to save it. And Republicans haven't trotted out
the alternatives. We have lots of them, and I think
the reality is you're going to see over the next
few weeks some of the Republican plans are finally going

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to see the light of day and get some press
and get some hearings and hopefully some votes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
One could only hope. And you know, the whole ideal Obamacare,
it was predicated on the idea that you could be
forced to buy it. And that's one thing the Supreme
Court said, no, the Commerce Clause cannot be used as
an affirmative measure to make people do things. It can
only be used to restrict people's activities. So once that
went out the door, the entire Obamacare bubble burst. No
one wanted this product because of the pediments, the out

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of pocket responsibility and liability, so it became an insurer
of last resort, and every person with a medical illness
went over to Obamacare. And that's why the premiums have
gone through the roof, because they're doing nothing but paying claims.
And healthy people aren't going with Obamacare because there's a
private insurance market out there.

Speaker 11 (01:23:17):
Well yeah, and look, the vast majority of people are
ensured by their employer, you know. So you know, going back,
this is with some people call the original sin of
American health care. During World War Two, they put wage
caps so you couldn't pay workers more for some stupid
FDR reason, and so they said, oh, well, we can't

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give them more cash, but we could pay for their
health insurance. And so that kind of tradition has continued.
It's a weird anomaly in the United States, and we've
never corrected it because the payer of the bill isn't
the consumer of the goods, and so the inflation just
has soared for healthcare and as prices got higher, the
demand is for more subsidies, which really just masks the

(01:24:01):
underlying that's gone on with the insurance sector. So we
have to get after that and fix it. And I
think President Trump part of what broke Democrats is when
he was saying, well, Okay, let's just send the subsidies
to individuals instead of the insurance companies. Well, let's put
talking about that. And I think we're going to talk

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more about that and a whole range of other alternatives,
because we can't just keep cutting checks to the insurance
companies and counting on them to fix the industry. It
clearly hasn't worked well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
And that just causes the American taxpayer to shoulder the
burden of everything. The premiums aren't just disappearing, they're being
masked by a government subsidy. And that just government subsidy
means it's coming out of government coffers, meaning the federal
a budget, a deficit inducing thing. So the premiums are
still there, many people just weren't seeing them. So now
again the veil has been removed on this Ponzi scheme,

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if I can loosely call it that, I'm looking for
good things out of the Republicans on this obs lead
the option of being giving the money directly to people
like school choice, giving the tax dollars to these students
and letting them them and the families choose. That seems
to me an ideal thing. Noting again that there is
a massive private market out there, and I represent a
company that deals with people on the private market. Tons
of options exist. Just like the federal gunment doesn't want

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you to believe there's anything but Obamacare a disaster. Gotrs
some Rarin Davidson. God bless you, sir for coming on
to the fifty five Casey Morning Show. We appreciate what
you do for us and look forward to great things
coming out of Congress as we move forward in the
aftermath of the Epstein fight and the government closure fight.

Speaker 11 (01:25:36):
Well look, I don't want to let that become a
distraction either. I mean, we're getting good things done. The
Trump administration's on offense. Things are moving in the right direction,
and we should keep that focus. We got to run
through the tape and get the rest of our appropriations
bills done and fund this government the proper way, which
is a smaller, more focused government. But thanks a lot Brian,

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God bless you and all your listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Thank you, sir. Seven twenty seven. If you have KCD
talk station, I've been dreaming of a smaller government balk
station sewo. If you have KCD talk station, Happy Thursday
slash Friday Eve Empower You Seminar tonight, which is typical
Tuesdays and Thursdays. Although it was the g Van Fleef
Power You Seminar last night, I hope you were able
to attend that virtually tonight's seminar. You can attend either

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live at three hundred Great Oaks Drive or online by
logging in it empower Youoamerica dot org. Just make sure
you register in either case to see on the one
sixty second anniversary of Gettysburg dress Abraham Lincoln in person
live for the Empower You Seminar. Welcome to the program,
Abraham Lincoln aka Larry Elliott. It's great to have you
on today, Larry Abraham.

Speaker 9 (01:26:41):
Yes, yes, it's great to.

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
Be on here today.

Speaker 9 (01:26:44):
Yes, sir, Yes, howdy Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
I'm Brian. Joe's the producer anyway, that's all right. So
you've been portraying Abraham Lincoln for what I understand is
twenty two years you actually embraced the carry. It's like
method acting. You are in the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln
when you're doing these presentations. I understand you do this
at a lot of schools and other events. How did

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you get involved with this Abraham Lincoln impersonation? What drove
you to that? Larry, Well, the.

Speaker 8 (01:27:14):
Long and short of it, as Abe would say, I'm
actually from Hodgenville, Kentucky, where Lincoln was born.

Speaker 9 (01:27:20):
I've been there, Yes, the birthplace.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Yes, we went on a motorcycle my uncle and I
went on a motorcycle trip. That was really cool. That
the cabin inside that monument, that that was amazing. That
place was tiny, that cabin that he was born in.

Speaker 8 (01:27:36):
Yeah, imagine living in that one room, dirt floor log cabin.
Four folks, I'm all Paul's sister and only room enough
for one bed. That would always be given a course
to my mama. But in answer to your question, about
twenty two years ago, I had a full beard and
my wife said, why don't you enter the lookalike contests,

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which is always the first Saturday in October, and dress
up like Abraham Lincoln and you're you know, you're kind
of homely like him, and she's She's actually true. I mean,
if God do you have the homely look?

Speaker 13 (01:28:12):
I have?

Speaker 8 (01:28:13):
The gate is Abraham Lincoln. And I entered the contest
and I did terrible, and one of the Lincolns that
was in the contest said, would you.

Speaker 9 (01:28:21):
Want to join us?

Speaker 8 (01:28:23):
To join us what's called the Abraham Lincoln Association presenters
about two hundred and fifty at the time. And I
began to look, and I looked up. You know, well,
what's it like to be an Abraham Lincoln impersonator? We
call ourselves presenters because we leave the word impersonator for
Elvis Presley.

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
And so I started going into schools. The schools love it.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
When I go to about one hundred schools a year
and I dress up, of course as Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 9 (01:28:54):
The kids love it.

Speaker 8 (01:28:56):
And I've been to fifteen hundred schools over the last
twenty two years and get ready to go to about
one hundred more here in February, March, and April. And
my link Brian to Lincoln is this now Many people
ask me, Oh, you're from Handinville. You must be ken
to Abraham Lincoln. I said, no, I'm not, but my

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link to Lincoln is this my personal Larry Ellie, It's personal.
Great great great grandmother Mary Brooks LaRue was the midwife
who delivered Abraham Lincoln February twelfth, eighteen oh nine.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
How about that. That's amazing. Well, the birthplace, your stature,
of course that connection. Plus your wife is named Mary
as well, so a lot of great reasons to be
Abraham Lincoln. To characterize Abraham Lincoln. What you're going to
be doing tonight beginning at seven pm at the empower
you some on our studious three hundred Great Oaks Drive.
I'm Bennasise. I want to bring you back because I'll

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ask you a few questions about Abraham Lincoln's life, and
I understand that you offer insights into a lot of
interesting inf about Abraham Lincoln that most of us don't
know about. So let's bring Larry Elliott aka Abraham Lincoln
back after these brief words beginning with Zimmer Heating and
air conditioning, the best in the business. They've been keep
an area home safe, efficient and comfortable. The talk station

(01:30:15):
seventh thirty nine fifty about kersee talk station Brian Thomas
here talking with Larry Elliott aka Abraham Lincoln. He's been
sort of serving as the embodiment at Abraham Lincoln, doing
presentations at groups and for obviously schools. More than fifteen
hundred schools have enjoyed his presentation about the life of
Abraham Lincoln. You can do a Q and A and
ask Abraham Lincoln questions because apparently Larry knows everything. There

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is no about Abe real quick here, Larry. It's one
thing to look like Abe Lincoln, which you do. Apparently
it's six foot four year slim. You describe yourself as homely.
I'll let people draw their own subjective conclusions about that
born in Abraham Lincoln's hometown. It's one thing to look
like him, maybe talk like him, but it's another thing
to know all about him. How did you acquire all
of this, this this wealth of insight into the man

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who was Abraham Lincoln?

Speaker 9 (01:30:59):
Larry, Well, the long and short of it. Brian is
reading books.

Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
There are currently seventeen thousand books on Abraham Lincoln or
about Abraham Lincoln, more books written on that man than
any other person in the world other than Jesus Christ.
So it takes a long time to perfect a portrayal

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of the Lincoln, of Abraham Lincoln. And so a real
quick story that's funny to hear is the first time
I did a portrayal in the school, I asked my
friend to evaluate me, and after which we went to lunch.
He's my best friend, and I said, what do you think, Mike?
And he didn't say anything, and I said, well, Mike,

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what'd you think? And he said, well, don't quit your
day job.

Speaker 12 (01:31:54):
Yeah, that's what he does.

Speaker 9 (01:31:55):
That's what I said, Okay, I guess you love me.

Speaker 8 (01:31:58):
And he said it was bad. And so he's a
very good critic. So I took some acting lessons and
I thought, you know, I'm gonna portray this man. I'm
gonna have the same gate as him, try to have
the same voice inflection as him, even though we don't
know totally what that was. It was kind of a hish,
real voice, but just bringing history to the country because

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all these kids and most of these folks love Abraham Lincoln,
but they really don't know much about him. So over
the years, I have just crafted a portrayal, a presentation,
and it's a lot of it's different depending on the
audience where I am. So tonight's audience will be a

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little bit different because.

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
I'm gonna be on for an hour.

Speaker 8 (01:32:50):
Some places I go to, you know, they only want
me on for twenty or thirty minutes and so, but
I can talk for five hours. I've given that much
time because there's so much to talk about in so
little time. So long and short answer to your question
is just reading book reading reading books and reading books
and crafting my own way of elocuting what Abraham Lincoln

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would say. Everything I will say tonight is authentically accurate.
And I hope I'm questioned on anything because I think
I'll have the answer, but I might not.

Speaker 9 (01:33:27):
So long and short of it, that's answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Well, that's amazing and fun fact I learned today that
many books are written about Abraham Lincoln. I guess I
shouldn't be surprised about that. This, I would hope, and
I'm encouraging that this kind of goes with that saying,
since you quite often do this presentation for school children
and younger people, that maybe get them around to tell
or the screen tonight or over to the seminar of

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the classroom, because they're certainly going to enjoy this, but
adults will presumably be there as well. I guess I
want to offer a question to you, because you do
have insights that are not well well, No, we know
about the Gettysburg address, we know about the Civil War,
we know about his connection with ending slavery, a lot
of the fun facts that were all no, But what
pull out randomly some interesting things that you find fascinating

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about Abraham Lincoln the most people aren't even aware of.

Speaker 8 (01:34:15):
Well, Abraham Lincoln was thought of as an abolitionist, and
that's the last thing he was.

Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:34:22):
He was against slavery. He was taught in Kentucky. If
slavery isn't wrong, nothing is wrong. He saw slaves going
down to Louisville Nashville Road dirt road in eighteen or
eighteen fifteen as a six year old boy.

Speaker 9 (01:34:36):
He knew it was wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:34:37):
His father was a member of the very conservative anti
slavery church, and his father moved to Indiana partly on
account of slavery, because Indiana was opening up as a
free state in eighteen sixteen.

Speaker 9 (01:34:55):
And so Lincoln from his early years the new slavery
was wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:35:01):
He began to put two and two together that you know,
the Decoration of Independence, that a all men are created equal.
What's with the Founding Fathers allowing slavery in the greatest document,
the Constitution, the world has ever known. But what many
folks don't know, Brian, is the Founding Fathers fifty two

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of the fifty six where Judeo Christian Christians, and they
many of them had slaves, they had inherited slavery. And
we had just won the American Revolutionary War, and it
was time to do away with slavery.

Speaker 9 (01:35:41):
But they couldn't because the South would not compromise. For
they said, if we have to have if we have
to do away with.

Speaker 8 (01:35:49):
Our slaves here now after the American Revolutionary War, well
we're not going to join these northern states that had
all but abolish slavery.

Speaker 9 (01:35:59):
So as the war began, most folks thought.

Speaker 8 (01:36:04):
That Abraham Lincoln would let the South go, but he said,
right after the first shot was fired, this nation is
worth fighting for to secure such an inestimable jewel. A
portion of the people cannot destroy what the whole people created.
I must save this government. So what the bigger picture

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that folks need to know is that at Abraham Lincoln
had let them go, let the eleven states go, that seceded,
we would probably be an entirely different looking country today. Yeah,
and so that'll be a good part of my program
tonight to let the people know just you know, Abraham
Lincoln Brian single.

Speaker 9 (01:36:47):
Handedly saved our nation.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
And if you come.

Speaker 9 (01:36:51):
Tonight, I'm going to give you a DVD of the Daniel.

Speaker 8 (01:36:55):
Da Lewis video twelve years ago portraying Lincoln getting the
Emancipation Proclamation passed as the Thirteenth Amendment January thirty first,
eighteen sixty five.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Well, that's wonderful. It's an extras center for people to
show up at three hundred graae Oaks Drive tonight at
seven pm to hear you speak. Yes, three do you
ever give a d It's not a question I would
think a young person would ask, but I imagine adult
might ask because I've heard this many times over the years. Yes,
I agree with everything you said. That our country would
not be the way it is now but for Abraham Lincoln,
is you know, demanding that the Union remain intact? But

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what of the question of the foundation of our country
and the declaration of independence? We have a right to
self determination. If the government is not honoring our wishes
and serving our interests, then we have a right to
break free. Isn't that the argument that many advance on
behalf of the South. Listen, you had no right to
force them to stay or go to war with them
over staying they wanted to leave.

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
Well, indeed, you know, the South said it had nothing
to do with slavery, which is absolutely wrong. Right, it
had everything to do with what the Founding fathers vision was.
Lincoln was ahead of his time in a sense, you know,
the Founding Fathers. You know, Lincoln said this that no

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state can leave the Union without the consensus of the others.
We must stay together to preserve this wonderful constitution, a
declaration of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
What we must.

Speaker 8 (01:38:23):
Realize is in eighteen sixty the world was still about
kings and tyrants and dictators, and the world wanted us
to fail. They wanted this new government to fail. And
Lincoln said, no, this Union is the world's best hope
for democracy. I must save this government. So he single

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handedly he could have let them go, and you know,
there would have been peace. And in the middle of
the war, many folks said, how many more soldiers Americans
killing Americans? Miss as your president, you call yourself and
commander in chief. How many more soldiers have to die
in order before you will let them go? And he
said as many as it takes to preserve the union.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Well, this is going to be absolutely fascinating. The portrayal
of Abraham Lincoln. I my guest today, Larry Elliott, tonight
seven pm. Empower Youeamerica dot Org. I recommend you show up.
It's going to be wonderful to see and live at
three hundred Great Oaks Drive, but online if you can't
make it in person. But if you do show up,
you got that DVD waiting for you. Thank you, Larry
for doing that. I appreciate what you're doing all the
time with this presentation, giving people an eye full of

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history and putting some context in this very complicated man
who was Abraham Lincoln President during extremely complicated times. Thanks again, Larry.
I wish you all the luck in the world. I
don't think you need it, but enjoy the presentation tonight.
I hope it's well attended. Seven fifty four. If it's
five kre CD talk station, that should be a fun
seminar tonight, very interesting too, and we're going to continue

(01:39:56):
with them after the top of the R news. Timcgrath
with the book Three Roads to Gettysburg. Yeah, and it's
subtitled Mead and the eighty eighth Person's name Lee Lincoln
and the Battle That Changed the Nation. So that'll be
after the top of the air news. Plus yay, I
heard me. The aviation expert Jay Ratliff returns after a
battle with Bell's palsy. Thanks to everyone for the prayers

(01:40:17):
that we sent Jay's way. He's ready to hit the
ground running at the bottom of the next hour. And
don't be these people. It's Thanksgiving next week. I love Thanksgiving.
I have nothing but just beautiful, beautiful memories. Growing up,
it was a family gathering all you know, you see
people and uncles and aunts and relatives. We'd all get
together and enjoy a feast and everyone seemed to be

(01:40:38):
in a good mood. And that's the way it's been
my entire life. And I don't remember ever ever a
Thanksgiving devolving because of a political conversation. So with that
in mind, ignore every Town for Gun Safety, which puts
some Thanksgiving dinner talking points on its website giving you

(01:41:02):
information on dealing with pro gun folks. Pro Second Amendment
pros talking points framed around debunking gun myths, giving you
responses to family members who are pro Second Amendment. For example,
it says, if a pro Second Amendment family member says
guns don't kill people, people kill people every time. For
gun safety, says, respond by saying people with guns kill

(01:41:25):
people and more efficiency efficiently than people without guns. Okay,
that does not negate the reality that it's a person
choosing to murder another person. In therein lies the societal challenge.
Trust me. Look around the rest of the world where
they don't have the right to keep in bare arms,

(01:41:45):
they figure out other ways of killing people. Oh, I
don't know, like driving a semi tractor trailer truck through
a crowd. Yeah, there's a way. Beating people over the
head with a guitar. Yes, less efficient than a gun,
but it doesn't negate the reality that it is the
violent conduct that leads to the carnage, not the firearm.
And the best person to dispatch someone who is in

(01:42:06):
a murdery mood is a person law abiding with a firearm.
It goes on, But my advice is, don't talk about Trump,
don't talk about firearms, don't talk about global warming one
day of the year, enjoy friends and family. If you're
fortunate enough like I have my entire life to enjoy

(01:42:28):
the company of family on Thanksgiving, and I sure as
hell hope that you are in that realm. I truly do.
But even if you aren't, let's try to make it
a plus side day. We have a lot to be
thankful for. And if you've lost sight of a lot
to be thankful for in this country, then you just
sit back and take a pause and contemplate life elsewhere.

(01:42:52):
Seven fifty five CACITY Talk Station Tim McGrath with the
book Three Roads of Gettysburg plus Jay Ratliff coming up.
Hope you can stick around today's top headlines.

Speaker 11 (01:43:00):
Got destroy about this now more than ever listen as
often as fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Ato six. Here at fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Happy
Friday Eve the return of iHeartMedia Abash expert Jay RAYTLF
at the bottom of the ar can't wait for that
since Jay's went off for health issues and I was
really looking forward to this segment. Welcome to the fifty
five KRC Morning Show. Award winning author Tim McGrath, who
is continuing the theme. We just talked with a Lincoln
portray as he's going to be doing a seminar tonight

(01:43:32):
as Abraham Lincoln. This man has been doing her for
twenty two years. Speaking of schools, he looks like Lincoln.
He knows everything there is to know about Lincoln. Tim McGrath.
He just told me that seventeen thousand books have been
written about Lincoln. I don't know how many books have
even mentioned George Gordon Mead, if there are, I don't
know who George Gordon Mead is. You've written a book
detailing his role in the Battle of Gettysburg Three Roads

(01:43:54):
to Gettysburg, subtitled Mead Lee Lincoln and the Battle to
Changed the War, The Speech that changed the Nation. Welcome
to the Morning Show, Tim McGrath. It's a real pleasure
to have you on.

Speaker 13 (01:44:07):
Thank you, mister Thomas. How's life in Cincinnati this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Hey, life is always good on a Friday Eve because
Tomorrow's Friday ends the weekend. That's my attitude about life.
You've written some congratulations on the awardy one, James Monroe
a life, give me a fast Ship. You wrote that
in John Barry, which is also highly a praise an
American hero in the age of sail. What drew you

(01:44:31):
to write about this Three Roads of Gettyburg, the Battle
of Gettysburg, but also George Mead. And you're gonna have
to give me a little insight into who George Mead
was and how important he turned out to be in
the course of the war.

Speaker 13 (01:44:45):
Sure, and again thanks for having me. Happy to George
Mead's an unsung hero of the Civil War, end of
our history.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
He was a.

Speaker 13 (01:44:57):
Son coming from a very successful fill health your merchant family.
In fact, his dad was a hugely successful financier. Mead
was born in kid in Spain during the Napoleonic tail
end of the Napoleonic Wars, and his father was worth
about had a fortune of about half a million dollars,

(01:45:19):
which would make him easily a billionaire in today's times,
and a bit of a hard customer when it came
to negotiations and deals. But he lent his fortune to
the Spanish government at the end of the Napoleonic Wars
and he never got it back. In fact, he wound
up in prison twice trying to get it back. So

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Mead was not born into the better living days of
the family. He attended West Point. He was fifteen and
graduated nineteenth in his class. He had wanted to be
a lawyer, but that door was closed him for economic reasons.
West Point is free. But he really had a talent

(01:46:06):
for engineering. Mister Thomas he right before and right after
the Mexican War, where he served rather gallantly under Zachary Taylor.
He designed and oversaw construction of lighthouses from New Jersey
down to the Florida Keys, and while they're not operational,

(01:46:28):
most of them are still standing today. In one instance,
he built one on a key where the lighthouse had
been washed out twice by hurricanes and decided the best
way to do it was to build a skeletal structure
with a lighthouse on top and usual quarters on the key.

(01:46:51):
There were two hurricanes that wiped out everything but the lighthouse.
It was a very good judge of the ground, which
certainly came in handy at Gettysburg.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Okay, But with given that background, as brilliant as it
may have been in his engineering background, how in the
hell did Lincoln end up choosing him to lead the
Union army in battle against Robert E.

Speaker 10 (01:47:11):
Lee.

Speaker 13 (01:47:13):
Well, Lincoln was having a tough time if you're a
baseball fan. He was sort of like a better version
of George Steinberner. Trying to find managers back in the
seventies and eighties. He went to George McDowell, Urban McDowell,

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George McClellan twice, John Pope, Ambrose bird Side, and lastly
fighting Joe Hooker, who had lost a disastrous battle at
Chancellorsville in May of sixty three, and kept going back
and forth with Hooker do we keep him or not?
And finally, on June twenty eighth, Hooker offered his resignation

(01:47:56):
for the emptieenth time, and Lincoln took it and then
sent a friend of me, Colonel Hardy, to Frederick, Maryland,
where Mead and his corps from the Army of the
Potomac were in camp. He woke me up at four
point thirty and me thought he was being arrested because
he'd gotten into an argument with Hooker when Hooker said
that his generals all voted to retreat, and Mead wanted

(01:48:18):
to fight another day at Chancellorsville. So when Hardy told
him that Lincoln wanted him to command the Army of
the Potomac, he said, I don't want to do it,
and Hardy said, this isn't an offer, this is a command.
You were ordered to take command of the army. He
was a Pennsylvanian, and that might have had something to
do with it, because by now a good bit of

(01:48:40):
Lee's army was already in Pennsylvania. So he only had
about three days to try to get things organized and
moving forward before the Battle of Gettysburg commenced on July first.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Well, Sir, was he unproven in battle at that point
when he was tapped for that job.

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
No, not at all.

Speaker 13 (01:48:59):
He had been an engineer and an aid and a
scout Zachary Taylor in the Mexican War, and served very bravely.
He had by eighteen sixty two, I had command of
his own corps, and at Fredericksburg in December of sixty two,
which was a total disaster for the Army of the Potomac.

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Charging up to Maurice Heights, Lee had a definite high
ground to that battle, but Mead's offense of that morning
came this close to punching a hole in Lee's line,
and he had to withdraw because he was asking for
reinforcements to keep going and did not get them. It's

(01:49:44):
sad because after the war there were jet political generals
that he had either removed or replaced or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
That said.

Speaker 13 (01:49:53):
Oh, he didn't even want to fight at Gettysburg. He
wanted to retreat from Gettysburg. One of them, most reciferously
was a fellow dance Sickles, who's a story in itself.
We would need another time to talk about that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
There's another boy for you, Tim.

Speaker 6 (01:50:08):
But.

Speaker 13 (01:50:10):
Quite a scalawag. But he wasn't afraid to fight. He
was very well seasoned, and while not as well known
in the army, he won over their respect and was
cheered mightily after that battle and at Apamatics. He was
not present at McLean House with Grant and his entourage,

(01:50:35):
but I think he would rather have stayed with his men.
And when they got the news and he wrote down
the ranks to tell them all, he was cheered rather bravely.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
I presume that he learned military strategy well on the
ground training in any of the battles he fought. But
did they teach military strategy at West Point when he
was there?

Speaker 13 (01:50:52):
Oh? Sure, But it was also the best engineering school
in the Western hemisphere. And Roberty Lee is an amazing engineer.
One of the things I found out was that he
was sent in the eighteen thirty seven to Saint Louis,
which was in danger of becoming dry dock because there

(01:51:13):
was so much silt, sand and debris coming down river
the way the current flowed that literally they weren't sandbars
so much as islands. And he didn't have the money.
He wanted to do things to get things straightened away,
but he went the fault isn't here, it's further north,
and he went up to the rapids along the river

(01:51:35):
in Iowa des Moines Rapids and further down and came
up with the idea of just blowing up little avenues
in the rapids and the barriers and increasing the flow
of the water.

Speaker 9 (01:51:52):
And it worked.

Speaker 13 (01:51:53):
He cleaned all that out, which ticked off some Illinois
spec laters across on the other side of the river,
who figured out, okay, that's going to be a ghost town.
We'll set up a new commercial point and make a fortune.

(01:52:14):
I found it ironic that historians and biographers have talked
about Abraham Lincoln's two trips as a flatboatman down the
Mississippi to New Orleans and how those trips changed him.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
And hit him so.

Speaker 13 (01:52:28):
Hard about the plight of the enslaved enslaved Americans, and
that his trips down the Mississippi changed Lincoln. He Leave's
trip on the Mississippi changed the Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
That's amazing, so wild how things get connected like that. Now,
I want you just to briefly explain how important that
the name of the book again, Three Roads of Gettysburg
med Lee Lincoln and the battle that changed the war,
and the speech that changed the nation. Of course, the
speech you're referring to one hundred and ninety second anniversary
the Gettysburg addressed the importance of the Battle of Gettysburg

(01:53:03):
boiled down into simpler terms. How important was that battle?
And you know what might have happened had Made not
been successful, had.

Speaker 13 (01:53:11):
Lean won, And it was the three of the bloody estates,
the highest amount of casualties in a battle those three days,
over fifty thousand between both armies and Mead would have
had to have fought another battle, but it would have

(01:53:33):
opened things up for Lee. Do I want to go
to Philadelphia? Do I want to go to Baltimore? Do
I want to go to Washington? Had had he won
the ward there would have been another battle.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
It would have been.

Speaker 13 (01:53:45):
Interesting to see how that turned out. Ironically, neither general
was there when the battle started. Lee didn't get to
Gettysburg until late in the afternoon, me did not get up,
unable to get up till till it was well after nightfall.
And by the luck of the draw he had two
other Pennsylvania generals, John Reynolds, who had also been offered

(01:54:09):
to the command of the army and had turned it down.
But a year earlier Reynolds, for the governor of Pennsylvania,
had done some reconnaissant work about if we get invaded,
where's the good spot to fight? And he saw the
high ground at Gettysburg. There's a legendary little bit of
things about the Duke of Wellington when they asked him

(01:54:30):
at the Battle of Waterloo, why did you pick this place?
And he said, because I saw it a year ago,
and I kept it in my pocket. Reynolds certainly did
the same thing. And ironically, while the Confederate Army drove
the Union army back and out of Gettysburg, they drove
them right to the high ground Reynolds had seen the

(01:54:51):
year before. And after Reynolds died in the morning. Mead
sent Winfield Scott Hancock, another Pennsylvanian who he trusted in deplicitly,
to go over and say, look, you're in charge of
things till I get there. And he saw the ground
and sent a courier back to meet, say we know
where we're going to fight. And that's pretty much. They

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held the high ground and it was a near run thing.
You know. The Confederate Army of Northern Virginia came pretty
close to breaking the line on July second, and feudalists
pickets charge turned out to be. They still broke the
line for a brief couple of minutes up on Cemetery
Rich and Cemetery Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Well, in my understanding of the Gettysburg address, it's so important,
and Lincoln would go from train stop to train stop,
as I understand, delivered the same address. But there was
no internet back then, there was no radio. Of course.
It redefined the Civil War, not just as you know,
there's you know, the struggle between the North and the
South and preserving the Union, but also this idea that

(01:55:54):
we need to achieve human equality. It's a moral war
in addition to a political conflict. Am I right about
the importance of that.

Speaker 13 (01:56:02):
Absolutely, absolutely, mister Thomas. He didn't utter a word of
it till that afternoon he had he had a couple
of whistle stops, and you know, we were talking. Somebody
had said, I just came back I thought at Gettysburg
or something like that. Well, you will have to tell
me about it, and so forth. But as most people know,

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he was not the main speaker. He was invited as
a not as an afterthought, but as a courtesy thinking.
You know, he can say something to wrap things up.
And the two hundred and seventy words, there's three different
versions to sixty seven to seventy one, but he really
welded jefferson sentence. You know that all men are created equal,

(01:56:49):
with what he called a new birth of freedom. And
I keep thinking, as we seem to collectively in our
country have attention deficit syndrome. Don't history like my generation
I'm seventy four learned. We don't teach civics and classes
as my generation learned. And so it's it's short, and

(01:57:14):
it's easy to read and understand, and at the same
time it's a challenge for each generation of Americans since
the Civil War to live up to that premise. You
know that a new birth of freedom and all men
are created equal. And I think the person who's said
it best, mister Thomas, was doctor Barbara Fields and ken

(01:57:38):
Burns's documentary which is thirty five years ago, when she
said the Civil War is still being fought and it
can still be lost.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Tim McGrath, profound words from you in the book Three
Roads of Gettysburg, Mead Lee Lincoln and the Battle that
changed the War and the speech that changed the nation.
Outstanding booked Tim. I'm going to encourage my listeners to
go to my blog page if you have Carsey dot com.
ORR producer Joe's got a link to your book and
a link to how to get it, and I know
they will a lot of history buffs in the audience.
I appreciate putting pen to paper on this one. Tim.

(01:58:07):
It's been a real pleasure talking with you, and I
know my listener's got to love the book. It's take
twenty nine fifty both KERCD Talk Station Man Thursdays have
not been the same of late. You know how much
I love talking to iHeart mediaviation extpert Jay Ratlift and
he is back after about of Bell's Palsy. Jay Ratlift's
so happy to have you on. Did you feel the
power of prayer coursing through your body from my listening audience,

(01:58:29):
Jay Ratlift, I.

Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
Did, indeed, sir, I did. Indeed. In fact, I got
a lot of emails after about the second or third
week saying hey, I've missed you, and I thought, wow,
it took a while for him to miss the fact
I wasn't there, But no, I got some very nice
emails and a lot of people were chiming in as
far as their experiences with Bell's Paulsy and yeah, I
was getting ready for church the last Sunday of October,
looked in the mirror and the left side of my

(01:58:52):
face was drooping, and I thought, well, that's not right.
Stroke straight to the eat. Well, you know that was
my first thought. But there was any other stroke related symptoms.
And I know that because I have a daughter that's
the heart and vascular ICU nurse. But you know, I
promised my girls anytime that something didn't look right, off
to the hospital I go, and I did, and they
quickly assessed me and said it was Belle's palsy viral infection.

(01:59:15):
It was mild and they said, Jay, we don't know
if it's going to be days, weeks or months before
we were able to get back, you know, to where
it's normal. And you know, fortunately it was a mild case.
The saddest part was my family didn't seem to mind
me talking less, and I think that was I wasn't
really ready for that ultra dose of compassion. But no,

(01:59:36):
it it went well. And Buddy, I missed my routine.
I yeah, still doing my trading stocks, is still training,
but you know the routine of which day it is.
As far as my radio stuff as I have stuff
around the country, there were days I had to remind
myself what day of the week it was, and that
was so I'm glad to.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Have the routine back, and so are my listening audience
and me very much, which I just I find this
the segment so fascinating and often quite comical. We will
get to a comical one at the tail end of
our discussion. This morning, let us talk and you missed
out on quite a bit of aviation news. There was
wasn't a day or a week that went Biden say, man,
I wish Jay Ratliffe was in better tradition. Yeah, I

(02:00:19):
guarantee you Joe would have called you for a you know,
out of the ordinary segments on some other day of
the week because of what was going on. So let's
move past the shutdown and let's talk about the Trump
administration has decided to withdraw the cash compensation rule that
would have required airlines to pay cash for delays. Did
the shutdown and all the complications and the literally thousands

(02:00:40):
of flights that were canceled delayed to have anything to
do with this decision? What's behind this jay ratlift?

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Well, well, it's the fact that the Trump administration is
a very cozy relationship with airlines. We've talked about this.
Oh yeah, this was a Biden something that Joe Biden
his administration put him about a year ago. And this
cash compensation rule, which is what we referred to it as, said, Look,
if you're a passenger and you're delayed more than three

(02:01:05):
hours or more, you're going to be entitled to cash
compensation guaranteed meals, lodging when necessary, and ground transportation when
it applies. And of course, when Donald Trump was elected,
which I was very glad to see, airline stocks hole
went up and people said, well, Jay, why would that
be the case? And I said, well, to be candid,

(02:01:26):
there's a very good relationship there was in the first
administration between Trump and the airlines and the Biden administration.
And you've heard me say this repeatedly. Even though I
did not care for it at all, they did try
to hold airlines accountable and they did more in that
regard than any other presidential administration that I can remember,
going back three decades. They absolutely hammered airlines trying to

(02:01:47):
hold them accountable. And then, of course once the Trump
administration takes over, and after yes, the airlines donated a
million dollars each to the Trump inaugural fund. Blowing was
in that line as well. It was like okay, it
was just it was there. You knew what was going
to happen. And of course Boeing, remember they pleaded guilty
to a lot of criminal issues in connection with the

(02:02:09):
Boeing Max crashes that we had a number of years ago.
After Trump gets elected, they go back to the Department
Transportation asking if they could withdraw some of that and
kind of have it revisited, and they did, and they
nothing went to trial to find that was it. So
it really bothered me, and I wasn't surprised at all

(02:02:30):
because I knew that that was going to go off
the table, even though other countries around the world have
something similar to this in place. It's the airlines to
tell the government what they're going to do many places,
and refreshingly, that wasn't the case during the last four years,
and I was really glad to see it. But the
reality that the Donald Trump administration would continue that same

(02:02:53):
course was a real slight consideration, and I wasn't surprised.
I was ticked because I really wanted to see it
in place. It needed to be in place, but unfortunately
it's not.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Well, what would the financial landscape look like if the
rules in place and they were required to issue cash
compensation for the delays and the cancelations after what happened
during the shutdown, Well, let's see.

Speaker 3 (02:03:19):
The cat you mean to the airlines, they Delta and
United would not be allowed to report or wouldn't be
able to report a billion dollars in profits in a
single quarter. That's probably the number one thing, because you know,
when you're actually being forced to compensate passengers when you
screw up. And I'm not talking about weather delays and
things like that. But when you intentionally schedule more flights

(02:03:43):
than you know you can pull off, and you're counting
on a percentage of those canceling, which happens. That's why
they overbook flights. There's going to be a percentage of people.
And there's airlines that have thirty five gates available at
a time, and they'll schedule forty airplanes to arrive at
the same time, counting on five of them being late.
Yet will all forty get there at the same time.
We five have to be sitting out on the tarmac

(02:04:05):
and you and I been through that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
Well, that's culpability there. At least you can point to
a decision they made which is exposed as them because
they chose to overbook, unlike say an act of God kind.

Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
Of thing, which those things wouldn't be covered under this
right rule. It would be a late arriving crew, repeating
mechanical issues, these types of things that you know squarely
could fall on the lap of the airlines. And now
what they do when we have those issues, Brian, They'll
give us here's five thousand frequent flyers, right, big apology there?

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
Yeah, Well, and I suppose air traffic control is not
showing up because of government action or inaction as the case.
Maybe that also is isn't the airline's fault? They didn't
tell the f the employees who are mandatory or necessary
not to show up to work causing problems. So no
ripple effects on them.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
Right, A real quick ps to that. You know airlines
were mandated to reduce their flight activity in those forty airports.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
Yes, they were ordered to, and we'll talk about that next.
Because that order mandating reductions over effective this past Monday
at six am. Did it have any effect? Are we
okay to travel on Thanksgiving? That we will talk about
coming up next, among other topics with Jay Ratliffe, the
return of Jay Ratliff, What a wonderful thing. Don't go away?

Speaker 4 (02:05:17):
Fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
Have you ever been in the cockpit before Jay Ratliffe
has the return of Jay Ratliff after a brief health
stent with Bell's policy. Is so pleased to have them
back on the program. And there was much rejoicing. Okay,
the FAA entity emergency order mandating reductions reductions brought about,
I guess because while this shutdown was going on in
spite of the fact they were guaranteed to get their
pay and they are essential employees. Air traffic controllers were

(02:05:42):
choosing to take days off, calling in sick, and I
get that on some level maybe they had to go
out and get another job, but it happened, and so
we had to reduce flights. That's over effected This past
Monday at six am. Are things looking good in terms
of air traffic control?

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
Have they come back to work? Are we on schedule?

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
Jay Ratliffe, Yeah, we're on schedule. Now. Keep in mind,
before the shutdown we still were battling with a shortage
of air traffic controllers. Oh, we're averaging averaging per day
about thirty nine hundred flight delays a day. So when
we get back to normal, we can measure that by
are we seeing less than four thousand delayed flights today?

(02:06:20):
If so, yeah, we're right in check. So we have
gotten back to that. In fact, airlines have made it
clear that look, they're going to have all hands on deck.
Schedule is going to be at full capacity for what,
in his essence, the busiest travel week of the year,
which is the busy Thanksgiving travel period. You have the
busiest day of the week Historically the Sunday after Thanksgiving,

(02:06:41):
the second busiest day of the year, is typically the
Wednesday before So airlines have made it clear that they
do not anticipate any issues for that, and they did
say at six am on Monday that those restrictions that
they had in place at those forty airports to reduce
the traffic by I think it was four or five
six percent something along those lines, they were going to

(02:07:02):
increase it to ten percent. We never had to get
to that. But the FAA also noted Brian that not
all airlines restricted the number of their flights at those
airports as they were required to do. Now, the FAA
has said for any airline that did not do what
they were supposed to, they're going to seek a fine
of US seventy five thousand dollars for every flight operated

(02:07:25):
above that mandated limit. Now, I can tell you some
airlines are going to be hit with a fine, and
I'm going to tell you most of those airlines it's
going to be negotiated down or go away. We're back
to that same arrogance of the airlines and the airlines
kind of telling the government what they're going to do.
Instead of the other way around, and it frustrates me.
But that's just the reality of the power of the

(02:07:46):
lobbying group that you really have with the airlines, and
it's going to continue to be the case. So I'm
excited that they are going to be held accountable with
a possible seventy five thousand dollars per flight. Fine, but
I know it's not going to stick.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
Well if you got them much power, and you know,
the fools one that's not looking out for his or
her own best interests, you have to at least make
the argument that you should lower it. Now you ask
him for seventy five thousand, how about we write you
a check for ten and hopefully you land someplace in
the middle or closer to the lower side if you're
the airline. But of course you're going to try to haggle.
That doesn't mean the government has to concede to your demands.

Speaker 3 (02:08:18):
But I just would like for all it maybe oh
fifty thousand in IRS taxes. Can we negotiate that down
to like thirty I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
There's some coveny.

Speaker 6 (02:08:28):
It's not fair.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
There's some companies out there that advertise all the time
on various radio programs saying they can do exactly that.
You know, you're on the hook for the irs for fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:08:36):
Grand that's in penalties and things like that. I know
if you haven't known what you're supposed to, But Brent,
it just bothers me because there's a safety related fine
where the fa you know, hit some airline with a
four million dollars you didn't do the maintenance you were
supposed to find it's negotiated down to like a third
of that as long as they promise never to do
it again. And it just it just I walk around

(02:08:57):
banging my head off the wall because it's just how
are we going to learn a lesson if it doesn't
have some teeth in it when you're actually talking about
consequences for actions that they knew.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
Not to do.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
Well, And you know there's other thing is which is
avoiding the problem in the get go by continuing to
pay the traffic air traffic controllers during a shutdown. And
I know there was a meeting yesterday with the Senate
Aviation sub Committee here and they were talking about just
that now we could pick areas of government that you've
got to pay these people period in the story. Look
what happened last time when these particular people weren't paid,
they didn't show up, didn't do the job, and we

(02:09:29):
couldn't fly an airplane. I know because I learned during
this shutdown that banks will provide government employees with interest
free loans, knowing full well that the government is going
to pay them back when they go back to work.
The money is sound secure. There's no issue with regard
to losses. You enter into paperwork, you pay them back
when you get your paycheck, no problem. I found out

(02:09:49):
there's something called the Airport and Airway Trust Fund. They
have their own trust fund, and there was some discussions
about listen, let us tap in the air to this
trust fund air employees, and then, of course, like the
banks get paid back when they come back to work,
we can refund the trust fund. What is wrong with
that as a solution.

Speaker 3 (02:10:07):
It's Nothing's wrong with it, And it frustrates me. A
lot of those things that were available weren't used and utilized,
and you had a lot of air traffic controllers, as
you mentioned, forced to go do door dash or whatever
other job they had so they could get paid and
had some money coming in. And I like Donald Trump's
President Trump's thought about, hey, let's give every air traffic

(02:10:28):
controller who didn't call in sick during this at ten
thousand dollars bonus. There's always things that we can look
at doing and sadly and sanely, so every time we
go through one of these things, you do have a
situation where you've got an air traffic control network that's
already stressed. Because remember, if we're three thousand air traffic
controllers short as of this moment, you have people working

(02:10:50):
over time. You've got a lot of exhausted people out
there that these men and women, they are just trying
to keep things rolling. It's going to be the same
thing over the holidays of Thanksgiving and from the fifteenth
of December to the end of the year, where you
know it's going to be stretched. Now, it's not unsafe,
but because when we start getting a lot of congestion,
the airlines have a throttle back policy where they will

(02:11:11):
reduce the airflow into a certain region based on the
air traffic controllers that they have in place. So there
are always safety standards that we have there from a
minimum that prevent a lot of over taxing where we're
trying to put too many flights in a specific area,
and that's good to see, and that's why you have
the ground stops and the other things that take place
when we have an air traffic management situation that occurs.

(02:11:34):
So I don't want anybody to worry with this shortage,
but it does cause some headaches, and that's one of
the reasons I've been thrilled that President Trump is saying, look,
let's get this fix. But when you recognize to get hired,
you're five years away from working on your own, it's
a process. So we've got to increase the facilities. We've
got a shortage of air traffic control trainers. We've got
to address that, maybe hiring people from other countries to

(02:11:56):
come in as well. So there's a lot of things
in place that we're looking at, and I just hope
it continues to remain a priority for President Trump because
if he can get this fixed, then for the next
fifteen years, things are going to be much better in aviation.
The same way if he can address the outdata technology
for the next twenty years, that's going to benefit this country.
So President Trump is doing some things that other people

(02:12:19):
have talked about. No one has done to any significance,
and if he can pull it off, the benefits of
him will outlive us with regards to what's taking place.
And I'm thrilled to see it, and I just hope
it continues.

Speaker 1 (02:12:31):
I mean, how many generations if humanity have been born
since the end of floppy disc usage? Jay Ratliff and
is still using.

Speaker 3 (02:12:39):
Fly ground based radar going back to World War Two.
You know that's a lot of this stuff is based
on too, So it just nuts when you look at it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
I'm going to end in a lighter note. Plus, hub
delay is coming up. Hey listen if you want a
windows if you want to look out a window by
a window seat, more with Jay Ratliff after these brief words.
Fifty five the the talk station. Hey fifty if if
you have kc DE talk station. So nice, hevan Jay Ratliff.
I heard media aviation expert back on the program. So

(02:13:09):
happy that he's over the bell's palsy issue. And I
guess timing couldn't have been better. As we're getting ready
to segue into if you want to view again, get
a window seat. I looked up Jay, there's a Babylon
b post. I sort of clicked on like and I
get their posts from time to time. It's a picture
of a guy. It's a picture of a guy in
an airline or an airplane holding his head. Headlined mail
passenger disappointed after another flight ends without a stewardess, frantically

(02:13:33):
asking if anyone can land the plane, just like it
happens in the movies all the time. Anyway, moving absolutely
got what. You're not entitled to a view if you're
on an airplane unless you're in a window seat, right, Jay, Oh.

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
This is just just maddening, but it is. There's a
class action lawsuit that's being brought on by passengers against
Delta and United because passengers are paying four window seats
and when they board the airplane and they're seated in
that seat, there's no window. It's a wall. And the
way this happens is when an aircraft is delivered to

(02:14:09):
an airline, it's specifically configured the way the airline wants.
We're gonna have x amount of seats up front and
premium or first class, and then we're gonna have this
many seats and coach, and normally the buffer between the
two you won't have a window. It'll just kind of
be the wall itself. When an airline will then change
the number of seats and coach or first class, the

(02:14:29):
rows get adjusted where everything moves back a bit or
forward a bit, and then invariably what happens is you'll
have a seat that's moved a whole row where instead
of having a window, you're now seated next to that
wall where you don't have a window. So keep in
mind you're being paid extra, You're being charged extra to
sit in a premium seat, a window seat, and passengers saying, look,

(02:14:52):
I paid for a window seat and I'm getting there
and I'm next to a wall. I want a window.
And now there's this class action loss suit and United
has made it clear just because you've paid for a
window seat doesn't entitle you to a view. And Brian,
every time I've talked about this, I have thought, I
can't wait to talk to Brian. I can't wait to
talk to Brian because I want to ask you, with

(02:15:14):
your your your extensive law training background, is that an
insult or is it a stupid thing to say? Or
is that legally you know something that you know United
can say just because you paid for a window seat
doesn't mean you're entitled to a view.

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
They'd only be entitled to say that if there was
a disclaimer saying exactly what you just said. You know,
because you ordered a window seat doesn't necessarily entitled you
a window seat. And they can even give the explanation why.
But if they say windows seat without any qualification or caveats,
and they are false advertising if they put you in
a seat without a window.

Speaker 3 (02:15:47):
And that's the that's the basis of the lawsuits. And
I'm really hoping that the two airlines get dinged on
it because to shrug it off and go, eh, you know,
it's not really that big of an issue, not that
big of a concern, not our problem. You know, you
paid this sit in that seat, and if you don't
happen to have a window seat, will so be it. Yeah,
there's a lot of people that look that they look
out the window to relax as they fly. There's people

(02:16:08):
that are a bit claustrophobic that need the windows so
they can relax when they fly. A lot of different reasons.
And when you take that away and just kind of
dismiss the concerns, as Delta and United have done it
in this matter, it's insulting and I look at that
arrogance thing. It just it bothers me because here again
is yet another example of how we're told passengers come first. Uh,

(02:16:30):
they never do. It's the bottom the bottom line that
comes first. It's not the employees. Sometimes it's not as
safe as I would like kind of thing. It's but
it happens to be an issue where they are doing
what they have to do to kind of pad their
bottom line. So you know, for me, it's it's it
was just an insane statement for United to make great
And I appreciate you letting me know because I did

(02:16:51):
not think that that would stand. But we'll say, I
guess what happens when they get to court.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Yes, we will keep your bob going out on that one,
Jay Rattlove And as we do, I think I got
a little insight into air traffic generally this week. As
you said, we've got things sort of resolved now. But
as for travel today, how are things looking for my listeners.

Speaker 3 (02:17:10):
You know, weather's going to be concerned next week because
we might have a couple of storms coming in. So
make sure the airlines have a way to get a
hold of you, and please get to the airport. Two
hours before departure. But if you were flying today, Dallas
and Los Angeles are going to be the two problem
children of the day. Chicago maybe late in the day,
but I really think the headaches are going to be
Dallas in Los Angeles as we're going to be fighting

(02:17:30):
a lot of rain, wind and some limited visibility.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
So glad you're back, Jay, right lift. You obviously had
no struggles whatsoever doing the report on aviation today, and
I'm so pleased to have you back. And I'll look
forward to next Thursday as I always do. Eight thirty
men will hit the ground running next week. Hope you
and your better half have a fantastic weekend. Of course,
in week between now.

Speaker 3 (02:17:49):
And then, as you are my friend, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:17:52):
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