55KRC Thursday Show - Sarah Heringer, Frank LaRose, Jay Ratliff

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Indeed, what the hell? H Martin Thomas right here, glad
to be Hope you're having a wonderful day so far.
If not, we'll make it one. Try to anyway, and
stick around all morning here on the fifty five ARC
Morning Show. Should be rather interesting coming out first guest,
Sarah Harringer. Yeah, she's going to be in studio for
a full hour. Of course, I hope you know the
name Sarah Herringer. Her husband Patrick Harringer Araringer stabbed to

(00:56):
death and they're over the ruin apartment. Apparently he was
quite the you know, business man, opened his own fitness
business and friend of the community by all rights, just
a really terrific person. She's been an outspoken critic of well,
the City of Sincinnate generally speaking, law enforcement, you know,
demanding changes and the way we I guess enforced the

(01:18):
law and crime and everything else that's going on the
city of Cincinnati. While the mayor of the City Cincinnati, uh, well,
I don't know, you can evaluate his priorities. We will
talk about that here in a moment. Whether he has
properly prioritized his home life versus his obligations and duties
as mayor of the City of Cincinnati during times of

(01:38):
a significant crisis, which apparently we're currently dealing with here,
and a crisis that has made the headlines globally. Yeah. Anyway,
Sarah for a full hour in studio at seven five,
followed by Secretary of State franklo Rose just got back
from meeting with Trump regarding election integrity. Of course, as

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second Orry State, that'd be a role that Frank leros
Haes got. We'll talk about that at atoh five. Jay Ratliffe,
I Heart Media aviation expert, will also be on the
program as he always is on Thursdays. At eight thirty,
passenger evacuated from an aircraft when the tires had caught
on fire. Saw the video of that one Wow. Delta
Airlines pilot arrested shortly after the flight in landed in

(02:22):
San Francisco. Kind of an interesting story that one United
flight attendants reject a new contract and a twenty six
percent pay raise. Joe, you get twenty six percent pay
raise every year, don't you? Yeah? Every six months? Oh,
that's right. They put you on the fast track schedule,
just trecord, just wallowing in cash. That's one of the

(02:46):
main reasons he has to work three jobs. And of
course we always end up with hub delays. With Jay
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Clairemont County Prosecutor Mark to call you on the program
the tail end of the show yesterday, there is a
special place in hell for Charlie Tettererman who's been convicted
ninety three felony counts for molesting a teenage girl. He

(03:32):
had a story details on that I mentioned yesterday when
I was talking with Mark and the prosecutor, the assistant
prosecutor who was responsible for the trial. That just brings
bile up in the back of my throat. He videotaped
every single one of his molestations, And I was puzzled

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by that because they showed every single one of the
videos to the jury. And when I asked the assistant
prosecutor about that, it's like, you know, the idea of
being a juror and having to sit through that, you know,
from a dividensiary standpoint, is it necessary? Because you know
the victim was in court, the victim was cross examined
by Charlie Fetterman, the guy that's got a special place

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in hell, the molester, the convicted molester. He represented himself
a trial, which means he stood in front of her
and asked her questions about it. Can you imagine? I
think they said she was about fifteen sixteen years old
when this molestations occurred. Can you imagine the vile, disgusting

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creature that molested you over and over again, despite your
objections and protestations repeated, from what I understand, staring in
front of you in a courtroom full of people, in
twelve jurors, asking you questions about it. I just can't
imagine the horror. But sentencing day coming up for Charlie Thennaman,

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and I am anxiously awaiting his being sentenced to four
hundred and fifty years in prison, which, based upon the convictions,
is what he's eligible for. So good luck, Charlie. They
love child molesters in prison, love to point that out
over and over again because somewhere in the listening audience,
and I hate to acknowledge this, but you know what, Statistically,

(05:19):
it's probably true. There is a person out there that
is presently involved in molesting a young person. And to you,
I am speaking, You're going to get caught, and the
hell that you will face once in prison is beyond
your wildest imagination. That's been the case, well documented for

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decades and decades. Good luck, Judge entereda Paula Tano not
I tell you what. You listen to that one, and
I think he is probably right on the wall. Sometimes
we'll disagree, and sometimes my listeners say, I don't believe it,
ken Trump, It just randomly and unilaterally issued tariffs and

(06:08):
pick and choose the amount of tariffs and just say
them out loud and make them happen. Or is that
the authority that rests within the Congress under the Constitution,
And the latter argument is probably going to prevail. That's
what the lower court said. Already it's on the appeals court.
I think the argument is today, So yeah, it does
impact foreign policy. But because tariffs translates to taxation, that's

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a power that rests exclusively with the legislative brands, the
power of the purse. So the aftermath if the court
does say that he doesn't have these powers and that
it is a tax and that he is who served
congressional authority by unilaterally levying taxes, it's going to be
I think I described it as a Charlie foxtrot. I

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had an exchange with one of my listeners about this.
Everything that he's done, all the work that he's done
to negotiate these trades deals with the various countries are
going to be whipped wiped away, and that's going to
be a mess, a real mess. So anyway, that's where
we are. So wait a minute, where was the mayor?

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I know a lot of people were criticizing that in
the aftermath of the the beatdown over the past weekend.
Saturday morning, we've been talking about it a lot this week.
Of course, it's dominating global news. Congratulations, multiple multiple articles,
notably Councilwoman Parks, who said she was happy and that

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they suggesting that the victims begged for the beat down.
That's made it nationally globally. Congratulations Victoria Parks. I know
you're not running for re election, and I guess it's
a good thing because she previously announced she was not
going to be running for a future office. That's a
good thing. Go retire because you haven't put yourself or

(08:05):
endeared yourself to well anyone with your comments. But that's
being widely reported all over this great land of ours.
But where was the mayor question? A lot of people
have been asking, because we didn't hear from him for
a couple of days after the tragedy. Purval, mayor Aftab

(08:28):
was in Vancouver on a long planned family vacation. Now
he was at a mayoral conference, but you know what
he got from got back from that apparently the day
before the beatdown. Purval said he found out about the
fight before he left for his Vancouver family vacation on

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July twenty six. He found out about the fight. Let
me emphasize that before he left, speaking to Cincinnati inquire
Scott Wartman reporting Parlol decided to take the trip, he said,
because it was the last time he could take a
family vacation before his five year old son started kindergarten

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and Cincinnati City Council resumes next week after the summer recess. Quote,
this was a long planned family trip and celebration of
my son. I take my role as mayor very seriously.
But I also take my role as husband and father
seriously as well. Now I'll concede family comes first. Family

(09:35):
comes first. But he's flying back today, saying he cut
his vacation four days short to arrive back in Cincinnati tonight,
originally planning to come back August fourth, and he said
he will be making an announcement tomorrow about how the

(09:56):
city will combat crime and address public safety concerns. Didn't
reveal any more details ahead of the announcement. Apparently probably
doesn't have any details. What can he possibly say is
going to magically come up with a solution to combat
crime and address public safety overnight. We'll see. But I'm
struggling to reconcile that he knew about this viral video.

(10:21):
He knew about the fight the beat down before he
left for his trip. Now he didn't have an opportunity
to make some kind of statement. I'm aware of the incident.
I criticize it. It's that what I've seen, it's inexcusable,
it's unacceptable. This is not human behavior, this is animalistic behavior.

(10:41):
Pick some words, put them together in the string of sentences.
I would love to address this, but I've got a
long standing family trip. My son's getting ready to go
back to school. I'll be in constant communication with the
elected officials. I am on the job in spite of
the fact that I'm not on the job. And hell,
I'll even participate in a video conference that two days
after because people want to hear from me, which is

(11:04):
exactly what he did. So he's on vacation, he has
an opportunity to get online and participate in a video conference.
All right, you can draw your own conclusion, say you
read the right decision going to the family vacation first,
but with the chaos that ensued, this is a I
mean and again, it's a viral thing. It's gone out
over the entire world. Couldn't you have delayed the departure

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for your family vacation by a couple of days to
address this. Get all your ducks in a row, make
the meetings, plan the meetings, head on off the vacation.
Rather than cut the tail into the vacation off. I
don't know. It's easy for me to second guest mayor,
Aftab provol I guess given the current circumstances, but like,

(11:50):
where's Waldo? Where's the mayor? In the several days following
the beatdown, in all the social media comments and the
fact that it went viral across this country, Oh okay,
he's in Vancouver. Maybe his office should have issued an
announcement to that effect while we all stood around, I
mean even Corey Bowman's like he asked out loud the

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very question where's the mayor on his social media account
the following day, no one apparently knew would have been
nice to keep us in the loop there, Aftab. We
are in a moment in time that requires strong leadership.

(12:37):
My listening audience decided whether we have strong leadership here
in the city of Cincinnati. Steve hang on, brother, I
just looked up and saw you on the line. I'll
be more than happy to take your call, but I
am out of time. In the segment, actually over, It's
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Speaker 5 (13:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Joe believes he mayor aftem Pebo was throwing his five
year old child under the bus by using the five
year old child in the family vacation to Vancouver as
the reason he wasn't around or remained silent. Maybe there's
a little bus throwing there. But if you're five and
dad tells you that you're not going to be going
to Vancouver, is that going to register with you? Do

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you even know what Vancouver is? Do you have any
idea what you're going to experience when you go to Vancouver?
Joe wanted to know what's in Vancouver. I suggested there
were trees there British Columbia. But sorry, son, we're not
gonna be going to Vancouver. I got to delay the
trip a couple of days because the city is on
fire and I've got a job to do as the mayor.

(13:50):
Should the kid be like, oh okay, he just said
he should have taken him to chuck e cheese probably
would have been happier. Steve, Thank you so much for
indulging me while I got that out of my system.
And for holding over the break. Welcome to the morning show.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yes, sir, you might be disappointed with this phone call
because I'm going to repeat what I've said half dozen
times on your show before and kind of what you
just said before you went to commercial break. But I
had already maken a phone call. But what's what's in Vancouver?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
He said?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Trees Monkey, Python might say the large yeah, for that
being one of their skits, and I don't remember much
about it other than the word sounded funny. So you're
not supposed to criticize him, because then you're criticizing a
poor little five year old boy, and you're being mean
to a five year old. So he is using him

(14:40):
as a shield. But here's what I've said many times.
I would make a horrible mayor because I'm the I
don't have leadership skills. I'm a follower, not a leader.
Just plug away, you know, a punch of time clock whatever.
He doesn't. He's not a leader, but he is in
a leadership position. That's why he is silent. That's why

(15:05):
when he says something, it's through zoom, it's something pre recorded.
He doesn't know what to do. He thinks it'll go away.
He's a DEM's he's looking for his next step up.
This is just a temporary job for him. He's trying
to move up. If Harris had been elected, he had
been Washington, DC doing something right now. He has no

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leadership skills. It is an obligation of anybody in a
position like that to post a schedule. You don't need
to say we're staying at my mother in law's house
or this hotel or whatever. To say we're on a
family vacation, we're leaving this day, we're coming back that day.
You make that public. Here's another figure that did this

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quite a few years ago, when she was Speaker of
the House. Nancy Pelosi became ill in the Vatican Rome, Italy,
and she became ill, and we flew her back here
or whatever. Nobody knew she was even there, at taxpayer expense.
She takes vacations all over the place. They should have
to publicize vacations they're taking. They should have to indicate. Now,

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this one, I'm sure is out of his own wallet,
but public officials should have to indicate, I am on
a taxpayer funded trip to Vaticans whatever. But the only
reason we ever found out that she was there is
because she got sick. Otherwise we wouldn't have known she
was sucking money.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
Out of us.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
So that's it, just again a typical non leader in
a leadership position.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Appreciate your observation, Steve. Although I will say, in these
modern days, letting people know you are going to be
out of town with your entire family suggests to the
entire world, because we have the Internet, that your house
is empty, creating an opportunity for a burglary or breaking
or something along those lines. And I understand that, but
in times of crisis, in a leadership role, you should

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at least let people know, maybe not in events you
were going to be out of town because of the
aforementioned concerns we all have now. But the reason I
haven't done anything is because I'm out of town. I'm sorry,
I apologize, but you got to issue a statement of
some sort. That's what leaders do. I'm not absent, I'm
on the job, I'm paying attention, I'm talking with people,
but I am on vacation, which is why I'm not

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standing in front of the population of the city of
Cincinnati in a meeting, in a press conference answering questions.
I'm in Vancouver. But I think the most troubling component
of this thing is he left for his family vacation
sometime later in the day, the day of the beatdown,
which had already gone viral. The silence is under those circumstances,

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the silence is particularly deafening. Five point twenty six. Right now,
local stories or phone calls. Maybe Tom will call in.
I don't know, but I love talking to people, so
feel free to chime in and offer your opinion on
these matters. I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
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Speaker 7 (18:04):
Radio.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Thank you, Richard Richard from Ludlow, Kentucky. Please read again
Mayor dumb Bab's original statement, but use monotone to emphasize
his mediocrity. Thank goodness, I live in Kentucky. I chimed
in a day. Aren't you glad you're a Kentucky resident. Yes, indeed,

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let's go to the phone. See what Tom's got this morning. Hey, Tom,
I'm hoping you would call Welcome to the morning show.

Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, yeah, good morning. It's it's easy to bash on
that path, isn't it. It's too easy. You actually have
to make yourself pat the brakes because it's just too easy.
It's like it's like you're driving a car down the hill.
I mean, the guy just gives us so much material.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Low hanging fruit.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
Yeah, you ain't lying. See that reminds me yesterday. Yesterday
you took a stop ball and put it on a
tee for Joe for the uh for the phrasing button,
and he just didn't nothing. U. It was the h oh,
it was the thing they got thrown on the basketball
court the end of w NBA game. Like what we're

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all stitting here waiting for the phrasing button.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's all right, Joe, Joe does do things.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
Like Joseph busy man. Joseph very busy man. Is to
uh yeah, to to your point, as the uh, as
the mayor, you gotta be ready to make a statement,
uh at least something anything like you said. He could
have done it before he left town. I don't criticize

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the man for taking a vacation. And then to to
Steve's point, what the hell is he gonna do about it?

Speaker 7 (19:52):
Anyway?

Speaker 8 (19:52):
At that time, he's got you know, the chief of police,
he's got detectives and stuff like that. He's not gonna
be able to do anything. So so point, he's done. Ahead,
go on your vacation. We'll keep your post that.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
I got no.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Problem with that, but say something to.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Joe's point though. You know, I was watching the uh
watching the video, and I knew it reminded me of something.
I've seen a scene like that before, of the of
the beatdown on Fourth and Elm, and it hit me
with Joe. When you relay Joe's comments, have you been
in a Chucky Cheese lately? It's it's absolute delement.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's a Walmart of restaurants.

Speaker 8 (20:36):
And by the way, it's not just not just the
kids that are involved in the strong. I mean the
last time I walked into one was a cold range.
It has since been shut down by two or three
years now at least, and it was absolute nahem in there.
I took the family, turned around and walked out that
I am not.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Dealing with this.

Speaker 8 (20:57):
That was that was absolutely done. Uh So Yeah, I
mean then so so to you know, instead of taking
him a chuck E Cheese, he just could have taken
his kid down to fourth and all. Then he would
have been roughly the same experience King's Island.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, I was just gonna say that Joe King's Island
I mean, you would a five year old rather go
whale watching in British Columbia or go to Kings Island.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
I think he cut his trip short because the five
year old was probably being a bord. So yeah, exact
it was all about the five year old.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
But Joe looked up.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
In response to my comments like what's in Vancouver? Joe
looked it up and apparently lots of botanical gardens, lots
of lots of shopping, and whale watching as well as
ghost tours, right yeah, ghost tours right on.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
Hey, all you people out there that are listening to
this and and understand the quote unquote leadership that we
have in the city of Cincinnati, and it only you
can only We're all one conclusion. Don't vote Democrat. Have
a great day, right, Thank.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You, Tom always waiting for the catchphrase. Uh v Vake
Ramaswamy hosted the other day and I got a note
about from this from Christopher Smith and he said I
spoke to friends and local leaders and since any about
crime and risk in the city, I'm hosting a town
hall in Cincinnati on Monday along with Christopher smithmen former
vice mayor and former president in the WAACP to have
an open, honest conversation in my vivake rama, Swamy's hometown

(22:29):
who plied to a vice, city officials, community leaders, and
any of the victims from Friday's assault wh wish to participate.
When people feel afraid to speak their minds, that's when
frustration festers and we can't let that happen. Open dialogue
is the way forward, as we demonstrated in Springfield last fall.
Ill announce further details later this week. So soon as
we get the details on where and the when, and

(22:50):
I'm more than happy to pass along to the listening audience.
You can feel free to show up, he Jo. You think,
may I have to have purvall show up to that one?
They doubt it. It's on the west side, that's the rumor. Yeah,
I'm gonna go with the no on that one. You
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in the absence of phone calls, which we have. Uh,
what's with the Reds? The Cincinnati Reds made it in

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the stack of stupid this morning. Came in this morning,
right on top of the stack of stupid. A color
photograph of the video the giant JumboTron video screen at
the Great American Ballpark with a photograph of community activist
Iris Rawley, who was given the Community Advocate Award by
the Cincinnati Reds. This on the heels of her face

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on her online post regarding the beatdown. He deserved it,
all of it. Note some follow up reporting on this
one from Fox nineteen. Apparently they are on Facebook to
wing a podcast the other day she along with the
NAAC president David Whitehead, who also suggested that the folks
who got the beat deserved it. He tried he was backpedaling,

(27:05):
of course, and so was Iris Wally. We were having
a contentious banter back and forth, she said when she
posted he deserved it, all of it, which the vast
majority of people with clear thinking heads, logic and reasoning
skills took to be directed at, of course the man
who was beaten, or both of the people who were beaten.
But she did say he She tried to backpedal and

(27:28):
said that he that I'm referring to is Andre Ewing,
the former CINCINNT police officer. Andre was on the program
last week Tuesday. This week actually outspoken community activist Andre Ewing.
He had a lot of things to say, including don't

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go downtown when having large events, so she's trying to
backpedal her way out of it. And congratulations for winning
the Community Advocate Award whatever, Thank you, Liam. Wow do

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you think they had decided to give that award out
before the brawl over the weekend her online post or
do you think this was a decision that was made
after she stepped in it? That's where Joe's going. Why
would the reds endeavor to bolster her credibility in the
aftermath of a ridiculous statement like that? Talk amongst yourselves,

(28:31):
you come up with an answer. Please let me know.
Another stupid h the smoking gun. They provide some good
material for the stack of stupid married couple facing felony
charges after they joined the Mile High Club. On a
Jet Blue flight over the weekend, Tristan Riley forty two,

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and Christopher Arnold, forty three traveling to Sarasota, Florida, from
John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York when they
allegedly engaged in what is described in the complaint as
lude or lascivious exhibition. Flight attendant told police to quote
several youths and their mother had witnessed Riley and Arnold
performing in sexual performing sexual activity on board the Jet

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Blue flight one p. Sixty three. Excuse me when the
flight attendant guid damed Brian's upp walked to Miss Riley's
seating area in the twenty fifth row. He witnessed her
making up and down movements with her head while she
was faced down on mister Arnold's lap. Joe, what do
you think was going on there? Searching his pocket for

(29:43):
you think a lozenge, maybe a chapstick, roll of life
savers or something. And I can't even read the further description.
An investigation indicate of miss Riley was seen by two

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underads us performing well an oral act and well something
involving her hand. Let's just leave it at that. The
witness statement female pastor who was flying with her two children,
said that during the takeoff, she spotted the woman later
identified as Riley Yes, performing a physical act on her
male companion. She noted, this is a quote from the passengers.

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She noticed my two kids was watching them, and they
didn't stop after that. She was laying on him as
if she was performing this particular oral act. Riley described
as a medical receptionist, Arnold, a general contractor. Rested upon
the July nineteenth flight's arrival in Sarasota. The two live

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in Danbury, Connecticut, were booked into the County jail Freedom Monday,
Prosecutors agreed to the couple's release on their own recognizance
while they investigate jurisdiction. Jurisdiction becoming a question because I
guess they were flying over multiple states on their trip.
You know how long it is a flight of that?

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Like?

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Speaker 2 (33:49):
Five point fifty come up with five fifty one fifty
five KR See talk station Friday Eve in studio for
a full hour. Widow Sarah Herringerry lost her husband Patrick
and that tragic, tragic murder at their apartment in downtown Cincinnati,
calling for reforms across the board, and she is not

(34:10):
backing down. Really impressive woman she is. So that's at
seven o'clock. Should be in studio looking forward to that.
Feel free to call otherwise back to the stack of stupid.
We have radioactive wasps found near a nuclear facility in
South Carolina. What quarter report from the hous to part
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wasp nest on a post near a tank at the
Savannah River site and Aiken, South Carolina. Officials say the
s was sprayed to kill The wasp nest probed and
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Officer said the ground and surrounding area did not have
any contamination. Okay. A Louisiana woman rather New Orleans facing
felony charges after the state Attorney General's officer suden she
fraudulently obtained medicaid benefits while generating millions in business revenue.

(35:41):
Ah Yes, thirty five year old Cannice tailor arrested Monday
by Louisiana Bureau of Investigation Court of the Records. Investigations
started with a complaint from Louisiana Department of Health alleging
that she committed Medicaid recipient fraud by underreporting her income.
They say she applied for Medicaid in twenty nineteen under
an alias can and This Sailor, listing biweekly income of

(36:03):
nineteen hundred dollars and no dependence. That application denied less
than a year later, though she reapplied using the same
alias and inconsistent information, and then between twenty twenty and
twenty twenty four, she's accused of misrepresenting, concealing, and failing
to disclose financial information in order to receive government healthcare assistance.
During that time, they say her various businesses generated more

(36:25):
than nine and a half million dollars in revenue across
multiple accounts that were under her control, and despite claiming
no income at all. In twenty twenty, they say her
financial records show more than four hundred and eighty thousand
dollars in deposits, including luxury expenders expenditures over forty five

(36:46):
grand in vehicle payments to Audi Finance, multiple six figure
cashiers checks used for property purchases, cosmetic surgery, and high
end jewelry, which also reportedly wired one hundred thousand dollars
to an exotic car dealership and made thirteen thousand dollars
in debit card payment debit card payments towards Are you

(37:07):
ready a twenty twenty two Lamborghini urus do?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Two months after purchasing the Lamborghini, she reapplied for medicaid,
this time reporting two thousand dollars a month in income
and failing to disclose her ownership of any business. After
the investigation agents secured an arrest warrant on one count
of government benefits fraud booked into the East Baton Rouge
Parish prison on Monday, and the investigation remains ongoing. You,

(37:38):
my friends, you paid for that. You worked so that
she could builk the system and get free benefits when
she clearly had absolutely no need for them. What the hell? Oh, oh,

(38:04):
let's go to Japan as opposed to Vancouver. Joe, that
was my microphone falling off of the stand, Folks. I've
been having struggles with this. I don't want to say
it's been sabotaged, but the little nut that holds a
microphone on the stand just happens to sort of work
its way out throughout the day. All I'm constantly tightening

(38:26):
this thing, so apologies for that crash was certainly unintended. Quickly, though,
Let's go to japan authorities on highlightight after up to
sixteen thousand plastic toy guns used as prizes in claw
machines across the country were determined to be able to
fire live ammunition. National Policy Agency issue of warning that

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thousands of illegal firearms are being offered as prizes at
claw machines around the Asian country. Authorities scrambling to get
a recall out the real gimmick mini revolver imported Japan
from China's crane for these crane games. The brightly colored
plastic toy seems harmless. Its technical specifications suggested that it

(39:08):
was capable of being used however, as an actual firearm
comes with eight plastic bullets that can be used to
paying various objects, But the NPA found that the gun
could also potentially be used to fire live ammunition. Is
that a design defect? Five six fifty five kerr ce
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of the firearm. Jay, take your call right out of
the gate. We get back, got to take a run here.
We'll do some local news and some national news, maybe
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Speaker 2 (40:00):
Everyone a very happy Thursday, flash Friday. And before I'd
go to the phones, Jay's been kind enough to hold
you can feel free to call as well. Love hearing
people's comments. Five on three seven four nine fifty five
hundred and eight hundred and eighty two to three talk
fast Forward one hour. Sarah Heninger, widow of Patrick Aeron Drew,
who was stabbed to death in their apartment in downtown Cincinnati.
She's been an outspoken advocate critic. She's got ideas for

(40:23):
changing the realities of the city of Cincinnati. Of course,
on the heels of the weekend violence. It's got a
very important message passed along. Should be in studio coming
up in an hour for a full hour. So God
bless her and thank her for trying to do something.
A lot of people's experience tragedy, and you know, they
just wallow in misery, and I understand that on some level,

(40:44):
and others kind of like they're not going to stand
for this and they want to do something to change it.
So it's something somebody else doesn't experience the same thing,
and that's the path that Sarah has taken. God bless
her for it. Eight o five Secretary of State Frank
LeRose just got back with a meeting from with Donald
Trump regarding election integrity. We'll hear from Frank at eight five.
Jay Ratlife, I heard media aviation expert every Thursday at

(41:07):
eight thirty. Quite a few topics talk about with Jay,
as is typically the case, so let us head over
to the phones. Jay, thank you so much for holding.
Welcome to the program. Good to hear from you today.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 7 (41:18):
Yeah, I heard you say Medicaid crad and it's like
putting up warm on a hook and throwing it out
in the water. I can't help myself.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
I have to get the BA.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It reminded me of the pod.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
I listened to the podcast of John Houston last week,
and you had to be tasting blood in your mouth
from biting your tongue when you brought up medicaid fraud.
And he said something I'm the paraphrase that, Yeah, there's
a lot of bad states out.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
There with a lot of medicaid fraud.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
And part of the big beautiful bill is those states
are going to have to pay extra in order to
make up for the fraud that they induced. And if
that's true, we all better pack our bags and get
out of Ohio because if you've property taxes pad, when
we get hit with our medicaid fraud surcharge being it,
we're the worst in the nation. Uh, that's gonna be

(42:08):
a pretty big bill if that's really coming. And I
found it, I guess I won't say odd. I I
noticed he dodged the fact that Ohio was worse in
the nation with medicaid fraud. And he sat beside the
guy who owns it. He didn't known it. I Housta
didn't known it, but his boss did. That Medicaid department
in Ohio rolls up directly under the wine. And as

(42:29):
Jennifer Gross pointed out in a podcast maybe a few
months ago that there was money going into Ohio conference
for every able bodied person that we can get on medicaid.

Speaker 9 (42:40):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (42:40):
To me, that's criminal and that ought to be investigated,
but Houston didn't bring that up unfortunately. So I'm gonna
I'm gonna remember that.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Well, the you know, the expansion of Medicaid. What do
they use COVID as a as an excuse for that
one to allow you know, able bodied people under certain
income level will apply. That's part of the ultimate goal,
I mean, putting every person in the United States under
one insurance umbrella. They wanted to be Medicaid. I mean
they want to expand it to the point where that

(43:11):
that's the default. It's not Obamacare, it's not Medicare, it's
Medicaid for all.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:17):
And it goes back to the kask administration. Whenever Obamacare
first came out, they said, let's lower the bar and
the federal government.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
Will pay for it.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Kaseik took the deals the wine was against it until
he got into office. Fifteen minutes after he got into
office and saw that the money was coming in, then
all of a sudden, he was for it. But he
was against it before he was for it.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
But isn't it I mean, work with me on this one, Jay,
because I'm struggling on this. You expand Medicaid, that just
means a number of medical insurance or medical claims. You've
got to play expands. Yes, the federal government was funding
that expansion, but what does the state get? I mean,
what do we get in return for that. It's money
comes in from the federal government, but it went out

(43:57):
the door in the form of payments to hot It's
a medical it's like a zero sum game. We don't
get anything from it except expanding a social welfare program.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
We don't. But Columbus does budget and take a look
at what the Jennifer Gross laid it out better than
I'm going to be able to. But there was money
going into Ohio's coffers. And if you take a look
at a timeline from the time that Obamacare got rolled out,
and it was nineteen red states that took that deal.
Why are Republican states taking a deal from Obama other

(44:28):
than follow the money. So there was a deal that
there was, there was some payment going into state coffers,
and they sold their soul and their conservative values whenever
they found out that they were getting going to get
federal money. So you and I agree that it comes
that's left pocket, right pocket. We paid the the Feds
take it, and they give a few dimes back to

(44:49):
the states. Well, if you're the CEO of the state,
you really don't care because you've got stuff and things
in your next election that you're running for and to
help with the people, the the citizens of Ohio or
whatever state you're running. It's all about me, and therein
lies the problem.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
So do you think the money that the benefit to
the politicians is that the providers wanted this because they
would be able to treat more patients and build more charges.
I mean that they seem to be the only ultimate
recipients of any expansion of Medicaid that's got a larger
patient pool.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
Well, it could be let's go down that path. The
GDP of your state starts going up. You start getting
all this money going into healthcare. They remember that that
came out of the Diwined administration, along with all the
other perks that you get. Because I still think that
Jennifer Gross said that there was money going into Ohio.

(45:43):
There was a financial incentive for every able body person
that they could put on medicaid. I'll have to go
back and listen to it. Or better yet, if she's listening,
would be great if she call in and straighten us
out on this. But she laid it out in clear
terms that there was a financial upside, but they're real causes.
Whenever the states became the whores and the federal government

(46:04):
became the pimp. This is the type of behavior that
the founding fathers were scared to death of. And it
doesn't seem like there's any push to make states great
again and get the federal government into a much smaller role.
And until we do that, this sort of shady, scummy
behavior will continue. It doesn't matter if it's a D
or an R sitting in the governor's mansions of red states.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Well, and the fraud case that I read about the
woman who bought a Lamborghini and made millions of dollars
bushers receiving medicaid, it's just illustrative of thousands and thousands
and thousands of other cases. It's the point that these large, massive,
multi multi billion, if not trillion dollar government programs are
incapable of monitoring the propriety of any given recipient. They

(46:46):
just there's too much opportunity for fraud, waste, and abuse.
It's one of those things where there's not And I'm
saying this knowing full well this flies in the face
of everything I stand for. There aren't enough people in
government to monitor it. It's like you need a massive,
million person accounting firm that can micro manage the propriety
of any given claim under medicaid, and there's just not

(47:09):
the ability to do that. And people realize that, and
so like, listen, they're not minding the store. I'm going
to sign up for it, even though I make millions
of dollars a year. Why not give it a shot.
Everybody else is doing it. They don't know what's going on.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
Yeah, I would agree one hundred percent, which is why
it needs to be pushed back to the state and
every state figure out if they want to do some
sort of medicaid program and with the state funded on
the state's funds versus it being federal. Along with so
many other federal programs that ought to be pushed back
to the state, and that would be the only way
to take care of this. We're seeing now the Columbus
is starting to talk about we're going to have to

(47:43):
really trim up our budgets and we're really going to
have to start doing something different here that's property tax,
but that's also that sweet medicaid fraud money is going
to start drying up, and that is going to cause
a big problem in states that have been living off that,
like Ohio. But anyways, the point is that Houston had
a point to say that, hey, we're guilty, we were

(48:04):
part of it. He dodged that, unfortunately for him. Yeah, anyways,
have a good.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Day, Brian, Thank you, Jay, Thank you Jay. And the
extent we have to pay back more or I don't
know how I or you as taxpayers are going to
be personally responsible for any you know, prior failures on
the part of the state of will Hire, any other
state that didn't get on top of fraud, waste and
abuse in medicaid. I suspect it's going to have to
be a budget line item. Somebody's going to have to

(48:29):
carve away funding from some other area of government funding
in order to account for the additional money we might
have to pay out. Just speculating I currently do. It's like,
I have no idea how we're going to take care
of that. But again, giant government programs equal in all cases,

(48:50):
a lot of fraud, waste and abuse. Six fifteen fifty
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Speaker 6 (51:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Christopher Smithlan just released a post. Here's what he had
to say at vote smithlan x account since the council member,
Victoria Parks should resign her position after her public post
that citizens who were viciously attacked downtown begged for that
beat down her words, the woman who was the recipient

(52:06):
of that severe blow to the face and knockout. Holly
is her first name. Picture now being widely circulated around
the internet, posted by quite a few people. She looks terrible.
She has got eight an amazing black eye, bruised cheeks,
swollen lips. Just man, I pray for her. I hope

(52:27):
she's gonna recover and isn't learn any long term problems.
But Christopher Smith been demanding the resignation of Victoria Parks.
It's interesting because since any inquirer reached out to her
because of that statement begged for that beat down, she's
drawing her own conclusions before all the evidence is in. So,
according to the reporting from Scott Warburn to the inquiry,

(52:49):
Parks did not respond to multiple messages Wednesday seeking comment.
Park's office in Cincinny City Hall was dark and the
door was locked on Wednesday afternoon. When the inquiry reporter knocked,
there was no answer. She's currently Mia much in the
way the mayor have to have. Purvall was mi Ia
until he announced yesterday that, oh, by the way, I

(53:09):
was in town Saturday. Yeah, I was back for my
mayor's conference in Cleveland that I was there at on Friday.
Got back Friday evening. I guess he was in town
Saturday morning. In spite of the fact that the video
had already gone viral, he went ahead and went on
vacation with his family to Vancouver. Yeah, and he said
since any choire Scott Warman talked to him. Purvoll said

(53:30):
he found out about the fight before he left for
his trip on July twenty sixth. Now, Joe's been critical
that he's now standing behind his five year old child
talking about family needs. My five year old son. This
is all about my five year old kids going off
to kindergarten. We didn't want to break up this family
trip to Vancouver, British Columbia. But my criticisman you could

(53:56):
have said something before you left Eric's statement condemning the
violins or whatever. I mean, It's not that difficult to do.
Have one of your minions do it for you, prepare
a statement for you, I'm heading off to the airport
with my family. Would you do me a favor and
say the mayor is aware of this. He he knows
about it, He had a previous engagement. But he calls

(54:16):
for qualm and quiet and an investigation and condemns the
type of violence that he witnessed in the viral video.
Whatever it would have done something. Instead we got nothing,
nothing at all. Three suspects arrested in charge for their

(54:37):
involvement in that melee the beat down, had their first
court appearance yesterday, and finally some actually genuine bonds. Montianez Merriweather,
five hundred thousand dollars, thirty four years old. I guess
the curfew didn't apply to him, Joe, He's at a
full grown adult, probably wasn't looking to borrow a red

(54:58):
bike either, one count each felonious AsSalt, assault and aggravated
rioting and five hundred grand again his bond to Kira
Vernon two hundred thousand dollars bond on one count of
each filonius assault, assault and aggravated rioting. And then Jermaine Matthews,
who turned himself in one hundred thousand dollars bond dkira

(55:19):
Is twenty four and Jermaine thirty nine years old, charged
with aggravated rioting and assault. Now, apparently during the arrangements
the arrangements, prosecutors talking about Meriwether and Matthews accused them
of coordinating the brawl. Since they please detect the testified quote. Ultimately,

(55:41):
we do have on video mister Meriwether walking up to
co defendant W. Matthews. He whispers something to him, then
walks behind the victim, describing the movements as an ambush
their words, or in their words, a setup in a
certain way. Detectives said, they chase him and they get

(56:02):
him on the ground where they begin to punch and
kick him on the ground. There's a there's a disengage.
Meriweather goes after another gentleman behind another car and then
walks to the side and goes to the sidewalk, and
there's the third assault occurring in the middle of the roadway.
As to Meriwether's involvement in this, we believe he coordinated
this with mister Matthews. He walked up to him on
the video, whispered something to him, and then strategically placed

(56:25):
himself behind the victim. As the assault began. Now his
defense attorney said, no, no, no, no, this isn't the
coordinated attack. The man identified as the victim allegedly threw
the first punch at Matthews after he was allegedly seen
kicking his vehicle. Accord to the defense or, the Caucasian

(56:47):
man then says, that's your car and slaps my client
in the face. That person, the alleged victim in this case,
through the first punch. Did a melee occur thereafter, yes,
But to say it was a coordinator attack that was
the catalyst of what broke out, that is not true
and the accurate picture of what broke out, well, I
suppose the evidence will at least shake out in courts
prosecutor's case. The detective is just relaying what he proceeds

(57:09):
to be the case, and we'll see what happens as
it unfolds. But see, this does not address the ultimate
problem here, which is the absolute outrageous of what I
will call an understated way over reaction from the people
in the original melee and then the crowd of people
who decided to join in the beatdown. You can't wash
this away. There is I don't care what the initial

(57:31):
dispute is the fact that an entire crowd of people
joined in the fun, if you want to jokingly refer
to it as that is the real problem here and
the reason the whole case has gone viral. Do you
think this thing would have made national headlines around the
world if it was just a fight between two people
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Sunsay police are investigating a shooting downtown. Have five o'clock
in the morning. Officers showing up at Merringway and Pete Roseway,
right by pay Course Stadium on the scene where they
found a man shot in the back taking a UC
medical center they say with life threatening injuries. Officer responded
to the hospital, please shut down Marringway until further notice.

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Pete Roseway and Central Avenue. They also blocked off a
parking lot at least one vehicle as they investigate. That
story is breaking. No additional information and I don't know
whether the roads are still shut down. What could possibly
be going right outside of pay Court Stadium At five
o'clock in the morning. And why is there so much

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violence right there in that particular area. I don't know.
Just ask him out loud for a friend. Three kids
in the hospital after being hit by a vehicle happened
in Walnut Hills. According to SINCINNTI Fire Department Assistant Chief
Matt Flagler speaking with Fox, nineteen kids, all younger than
five years old, are unstable and thank god they do
not have life threatening injuries. Hit by a vehicle quarter

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to three in the afternoon Victory Parkway near the intersection
of William Howard Taff Since My Police Department's Lieutenant John Cunningham,
speaking with the News of the driver was fleeing the
scene of a fight when he hit the kids. Driver
not yet identified, currently in custody, according to Lieutenant Cunningham,
that investigation also on going. Two teenagers have been arrested

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in connection with the shooting left one man dead. In
Springfield Township. Police said two sixteen year olds names not released,
of course because of their age, charged with aggravated robbery
and aggravated murder. Sixteen year olds that after officers in
paramedics responded reports of a person shot inside a vehicle
eleven thousand block a Brookway Drive, June ninth. Upon arrival,

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Springfield Township Police found Morgan Myers, who was twenty years
old at Claremont unconscious and unresponsive. They took him to
Myers to a Mercy Fairfield Hospital, where he then was
declared dead. After the investigation, police charged teen year old
mail from hiv At a sixteen year old mail from
Springfield Township determined the shooting occurred after an arranged drug

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deal involving Myers. Police said the investigation remains ongoing and
urge anyone with additional information to give the Springfield Township
Police Department to call it five one, three seven two
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A forty two year old man dead after his hit
by a driver in Coventant happened early yesterday morning. Please
showed up the Highway Avenue in west of Spring Street
five am. They found Sean Ewing with life threatening injuries.
He was taking a UC Medical Center, where he died
from the injuries. Coming to Police said the driver involved
in the crash remained at the scene and fully cooperative

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with investigators, and no criminal charges have been filed. Police
speaking with WCPO said Ewing was not in a cross
rock when he was hit, but investigators are still working
and learn why he was in the road. Press release
from Coming to Police mister Ewing's family has experienced a
heartbreaking loss and we extend our deepest condolences as we
continue working to provide them with answers. If you have
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They say midday storms are very likely.

Speaker 11 (01:05:13):
Overnight lows sixty five, storms move out, and dry air
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Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Sex forty here fifty five ker CD talk stations. Now,
did we just wake up one day in the city
of Cincinnati to find out that we're short on police officers?
Of course not. This has been a problem that's been
percolating and brewing over years and years and years. You know,
a forward thinking city council would not allow the numbers

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of the sincint Police Department to drop off as dramatically
as they have, so they wouldn't have to pay multiple
I guess millions, probably a dollars in overtime hours exhausted
police officers. Of course, you know, we had all the
problems because of the defund the police movement, Black Lives Matter,
anti file all marching in the streets demanding that we
get rid of evil racist law enforcement. Of course, the
city of Cincinnati being you know, run exclusively by Democrats,

(01:06:47):
embracing that reality, never coming out in defense of the
police department and low and behold, oh my god, you
got a tragic thing like happened over the weekend, and
now they're all calling for strict law enforcement. Combating violence
is our most urgent challenge, says Mayor after have Purvall,
who decided to come back from Vancouver where he was
on vacation, leaving for vacation after already being alerted to
the fact that there was this brawl, this beatdown unfolding

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in the city of Cincinnati, left on Saturday. He didn't
tell you that. He didn't even leave a message. So
with the limited resources we have in the city of Cincinnati,
three count them, one two, three officers were available to
deal with the entire district. Apparently that morning, Governor Mike DeWine,

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as well as what are described by Fox nineteen as
local leaders, announced yesterday that the Ohio State Highway Patrol
is now going to be providing manpower to help support
the CINCINNT Police Department. Pressolice. Governor of Wine announced that
Ohio State Higway Patrol is now going to be providing
sports to the City of Cincinnati. After the office that

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local authorities have requested the support amid quote recent instances
of violence. Hey, contextually speaking, what does recent mean in
that a lot of people concern the violence has been
going on for quite some time, yet ignored by our
elected officials. So anyway, recent instances of violence is going

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to lead to additional support from Columbus. Assistance comes in
the form, they say, of Ohio State Highway Patrol support
with traffic enforcement, which would I guess is designed to
free up other officers as well as a bunch of
different resources from the Ohio State Highway Patrol Aviation Unit

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that apparently is going to in the words of the announcement,
focus on supporting local violent crime reduction initiatives, criminal suspect
searches and vehicle pursuit aviation unit. Is that drones anyway?
Purval quote. I want to express my deep appreciation to

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Governor Wine for his can continued leadership, his leadership anyway,
and his assistance in our most important responsibility as a government,
combatting violence, our most urgent challenge, and this coordination support
from Ohio State from the State of Ohio assist our
local law enforcement in ensuring the safety of all of
our residents. I'm extremely proud of our police officers for

(01:09:20):
their diligence and exceptional service, and we will continue to
be unrelenting in our support of their work. Now, we
could have used a lot of the kind of statements
like that in advance of this, and over and over
again speaking to the residents of the city of Cincinnati
that no, we're not going to defund the police. We're
going to support them. We're going to do everything we
can to help improve the patrols in your neighborhood. We're
going to do everything we have to increase police presence
in your neighborhood because that's what you, as citizens really want.

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It's a urgent challenge, it's our it's one of the
most important responsibilities as government. That's what he's saying. Now, anyway,
let's gore to the phones. Andrew Pappus always appreciate when
you call the morning show.

Speaker 12 (01:10:00):
Hey, Brian, I'm always listening.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
My ducks are going nuts.

Speaker 9 (01:10:04):
Oh my god, I know I'm on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
I'm stunned.

Speaker 12 (01:10:09):
I'm absolutely stunned because and I don't get stunned often,
but the complete level you mentioned. Aftab was in town
found out about this event. Then quite casually actually chose
to leave town with his family. And I don't get
me wrong, I understand vacations whatever, But when you're when

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you are the CEO of a corporation and the city
is in essence of corporation and you're hired to leave
that corporation in times of crisis, I'm sorry your family.
You know, family obligations. You say, hey, you guys, go ahead,
I'll catch up with you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
In a day or two whatever. Right, Well, listen, he
agreed to cut. He agreed to cut. After that, he
agreed to cut the vacation short by four days and
come back. I guess because I realized that's not the issue.

Speaker 12 (01:11:01):
The issue is at the beginning. You know, at the beginning, right,
this is when you need to address the situation, not
the after No.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I know, he talked about how important his vacation was.
That's why he went ahead after after knowing about this
incident and won a vacation because he didn't want to
bribe his five year old child of this opportunity. But
he's still in the.

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
I appreciate that on on on the family level, however,
it's not a big ask to say to your family
I'll catch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Up to you in a day care of it. Yeah,
I'm not arguing with you.

Speaker 12 (01:11:32):
Yeah, I know, and and and and the other. And
so that that that that goes directly to the man's judgment.
And and I questioned his judgment on a professional level
as the mayor a lot. Now I seem to question
is his personal judgment because I think that he made
a really tactical, stupid decision there. But the other thing
I'd like to say is, you know, you have the
city since the count Cincinnati City council woman who's doubling

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down on her comments that the people deserve it. And
I hope when everybody sees that comment on social media
or an article, just post a picture of the poor
woman Holly that that that are going run. It's a
brutal photograph, but you know what you need to see.
You know, you see her laying on the round, people
are like, oh, look she's passed out. Oh I hope

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she's better, you know whatever. But then you see her
the aftermath and the bruising, the black eye, the bruise, lift,
the bruce chest, and then you're like, wow, you know
what this is? This is the dirty picture. I didn't
want to see all that hurts me. It should, it
should sicken you. And the third thing I'd like to
say is, I know you mentioned it earlier. I'm stunned

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given what I've seen online from her comments, both about
this incident allegedly and also her prior comments. Cincinnati Reads
last night chose to honor Iris Rally at the game.
The Cincinnati Reds chose to honor this person that is
seems to be I've heard described. I mean, Signal ninety

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nine on social media is doing a wonderful job documenting
her history. And I will tell you I'm puzzled at
the timing of that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yes I am.

Speaker 12 (01:13:12):
I know that, I know that it might take weeks
to line up who you're giving an award to, But
given what happened, and given what you saw immediately, you
couldn't just pull the plug and say that's not probably
the right time to be giving this person a you know,
accolade at a Cincinnati Reds game that was quite crowded.
My phone absolutely blew up last night when they were

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giving her an award or an acknowledgment accolades before the
Reds game last night. I'm like, you are rewarding people
that are tearing this city apart. I mean, do you
think that you know, for example, I mean, it's a
kid to maybe a team somewhere right after the incidents

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with Kyle Rittenhouse having him it at center Field, will
they do the same thing? I mean, possibly not. I mean,
I'm just I'm stunned at this. I can't believe it.
And the mayor has I don't know who appoints the
people to the committee that she's on, but you know,
the mayor. I've seen so many memes going around the
mayor fiddling while the city burns in the ground. I mean,

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that's exactly what's going on. Your mayor is absolutely demonstrating
since a city mayor is demonstrating that he has nothing
more than an empty suit, a pretty face that is
simply not up to the job, because quite clearly he
does not have the experience, whether it's in the business
world or the public world, to run an entity of

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this side. He can smile and take nice pictures all
day long, and that's fine if that's what you want,
but when you elect an empty suit to a position
just on accolades and platitudes, when the rubber meets the road,
you're gonna be severely lacking. And right now we are lacking,
just glaringly. We are lacking any real leadership in this city.

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But I will say I'm very proud of my good
friend Christopher Smitherman, who is going to now partner or
co host on Monday, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah, with the Vake.

Speaker 12 (01:15:16):
Ramaswami, you know, that's what leaders do. They're gonna sit
down and they're going to start and they're going to
talk about this publicly. That's what leadership is. You have
the Vake on the gubernatorial side that's sitting down and saying, hey,
we got a problem, let's address it. And you've got
Christopher Smitherman who says, I love this city and I

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want to help be a part of the solution. Former
leader of the NAACP. Our friend Christopher Smitherman is going
to is going to be part of the you know,
discussion on how where do we go from here? And
I am so happy to call him my friend. I
know he's a friend of the program. I know he's
a personal friend of yours y and I am I

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that's the way forward, not these toxic people like Irish
Raleigh and the and the Cincinnati councilwoman. And and to
be fair, Mayora does not provide a does not instill
me any confidence that he is in any way capable
of finding a way forward through this, other than you know,
placing blame where it may not belong or throwing accusations.

(01:16:21):
I mean, the mayor is simply it's simply a talking
you know what he is. Actually, it's just occurred to me.
Have you ever watched the news program where you see
a talking head talking about a news a news story,
and you know they have absolutely no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Idea what they're talking about.

Speaker 12 (01:16:36):
They're just a talking head. Cincinnati, congratulations, you have elected
a talking head as you're mayor.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
But uh the uh uh Ron Burgundy, hold on a second,
their partner.

Speaker 12 (01:16:53):
I'm pretty sure I called somebody Ron Burgundy yesterday and
they laughed at it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
You did, and you were right, and you called it
out properly. Just put something in front of him and
they'll read it. I appreciated Drew pappis wonderful observations, and
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Leroo is coming up a one hour or followed by
I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff every Thursday at
eight thirty. In the meantime, I am honored, blessed to
have in studio Sarah Herringer and apologies right out of
the gates, Sarah, I have been saying herring jurror since

(01:19:14):
your story broke June fourth, when she lost her husband
to a horrific murder in their apartment over the Rhine.
No need to do all the details on that, Sarah.
I know you're still recovering from the aftermath of that.
But Sarah Herngerry, it is great heaving in city to
talk about some of the problems that I mean, you
obviously experienced the worst and most horrific of problems in

(01:19:35):
what happened on June fourth. But as we were talking
before the segment started, the idea of crime in over
the Rhine, you've had plenty of experience with it. This
isn't something new.

Speaker 13 (01:19:48):
It's not something new.

Speaker 14 (01:19:49):
It's been something that's been building and accumulating for quite
some time. And at this point we are seeing the
fruits of the labor of the city leadership really being
harvested or coming to its fullness right now. This is
not something where all of a sudden in the summer
of twenty twenty five, wow we have crime issues.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Yeah, yeah, well, you know earlier in the program just
think before the top of the our news break, and
I had mentioned to you that I brought it up.
We didn't just wake up in the city one day
and say and find out, oh my god, we're one
hundred and fifty or more officers short. This is a
problem that's been building for a long long.

Speaker 14 (01:20:29):
Time, a really long time to my understanding, even back
to two thousand and eight where they're recession so hiring freeze.
But those are things that you're able to project and
see coming, and any type of business a private corporation
would not just stand by and just be like, oh

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oh well, or not have to change their strategy in
order to recruit to compensate for that deficit.

Speaker 13 (01:20:59):
This is not something.

Speaker 14 (01:21:00):
I mean, there's been a really long runway to be
able to predict and see where there's going to be
a lack of police force, and there just hasn't been
any action or necessary action, the right kind of action
to fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Well, in any prudent, logical, and reasonable person, when you
put politics aside, the most important component to a successful
city is safety.

Speaker 13 (01:21:23):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
In order to encourage anybody to live in the city,
in order toencourage any business to invest in the city,
you're going to have to have at least a perception
of a very safe city. So failure of prioritization is
where I always come down on this. So you're short
on resources, you know, you got budget cuts, you got
to tighten the belt. The last place you should be
talking about tightening the belt and not refilling depleting ranks

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is the police department of all places.

Speaker 14 (01:21:49):
Absolutely, and as of late, I mean AFTAB has talked
about how there's money for it. You know, we're not
currently in a situation where there's not money for public safety.
The money is being given elsewhere. It's not it's not
actually being allotted to what it's it should be. And
I mean safety is a is a basic human need.

(01:22:13):
It is like it's we're we're not asking for you know,
the whole Maslow's hierarchy. We're not asking for self actualization here,
we're asking for safety.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Yeah, And I think it's easy to observe we are.
We live in sort of de evolutionary times. I mean, yeah,
people fly off the handle, they do obnoxious, insane things.
And as evidence by the viral nature of what happened
on Saturday morning, that a horde of people out of
nowhere would just start congregating and beating the living hell

(01:22:43):
out of someone who clearly had lost whatever fight led.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
Right to it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Absolutely, it's so appalling. That's that's why so many people
click on it.

Speaker 14 (01:22:52):
I think, yes, yeah, And I mean and even if
there had been a fight between two grown men, the
mob response to it, and then the woman who was
beat just by it and by just standing there and
checking like that, those are you're just like what has happened.

Speaker 13 (01:23:10):
Why are we why are people acting like this?

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Why?

Speaker 13 (01:23:13):
Why is this behavior even something that no one thinks
twice about?

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Well, clear hesitation, clearly the folks involved in and thought
nothing about it. And again that maybe is the reflection
of a broader societal problem. But amid this seemingly broader
society will breakdown if you want to call it the
evolution or problem we're facing with just lack of morals, ethics,
logic and reason. That's at the time when you need

(01:23:39):
the police. That's when you need more of it. You
need a bigger police presence. You need apparently by all reports,
three o'clock in the morning Saturday, when this is out
three total officers available.

Speaker 14 (01:23:50):
Yeah, that's and they are very short staffs within those hours.
Same thing with the hours that it happened with us
as well. Uh, and how is that safe for the police?
How is that safe for them?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
It's a good question, you know, like it thinks about
the safety of the police. Do you think about the
safety of the community.

Speaker 13 (01:24:11):
But no, And they're human beings.

Speaker 14 (01:24:13):
It's like what, Yeah, if there is something like that
going on, and it tends to I mean, even we've
seen what juveniles it being like more of a mob
type thing. If you are are one officer and backup
is minutes away or not or air Yeah, not there
at all.

Speaker 13 (01:24:30):
What are you going to do? It's unfair for.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Them, it really is. And you know, I had never
really put myself in the position of a police officer
having to deal with a mob of thirty or forty
people like, you're right, what is the protocol for management
of that? Because you're just as likely to be subject
to the beatdown or maybe even bigger violence as the
person that you're there showing up on the scene and
reporting to the call for exactly. Oh my, well, how

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long leading up to fourth? How long had you lived
in over the right.

Speaker 14 (01:25:04):
We've been in Cincinnati for ten years, and eight of
those ten we've lived in OTR.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
And you decide you invested in the community.

Speaker 13 (01:25:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Absolutely, Your late husband's business was right there by Finily
Market as I understand it.

Speaker 9 (01:25:17):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (01:25:17):
Absolutely, we've had a business downtown for ten years as well,
invested in it, lived in the community. We didn't want
to be one of those people who was like, oh,
we have a business downtown, but.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Moving off to the suburbsaving when you go home exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:25:31):
We wanted to invest in the community that we lived
in because I think that's far more powerful for people
to do that, that's what community is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Well, I get a sense you embraced the idea of
doing that. I mean you obviously have a love and
passion for the city. Yeah, absolutely, but actually, you know,
to choose to invest your dollars there, you thought that
was obviously a worthy Endeavord did at some point of
leading up to June fourth that you come to a

(01:26:00):
conclusion that, well, maybe you might have made the wrong
decision in that regard.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:26:06):
There have been a few times where it I mean,
the city is not safe like that, that is very apparent,
and there had been times over the years where, uh,
you know, this is not the first interaction with crime, unfortunately,
obviously not ones with such great consequences, But there have

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been times where we're like, you know what, if maybe
we had opened our business out in the suburbs, you know,
there wouldn't be these headaches.

Speaker 13 (01:26:36):
There wouldn't be.

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
But I the thing that we that I've always loved
about Cincinnati is Cincinnatians love Cincinnati.

Speaker 13 (01:26:44):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 14 (01:26:45):
And downtown is a great place for local businesses. You
don't see. It's the city is so unique and the
fact that you don't see it riddled with chains and
overrun by corporate and you have these local businesses and
this local spirit and this local heart of the reason
why this city has made a turnaround. Yes, they're you know,

(01:27:08):
we can contribute model properties and three CDC with you know,
developers as far as that goes, but they've given it
back to the people and they've allowed for them to
come in and have you know, that entrepreneurial spirit and
everyone downtown they want to support local business. They don't
want to go to chains. And that's the reason why

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we chose downtown is because it's like starting a business.

Speaker 13 (01:27:34):
There's a lot of risk to it.

Speaker 14 (01:27:36):
And you can see it's very evident in the heart
of everyone downtown that they they want it to thrive.
And the local business owners are the reason why Cincinnati
got to where it's at. And unfortunately, the leaders that
we have elected to protect our investment and protect the
community are also going to be the ones where it

(01:27:58):
ultimately comes down to us, We've got to leave. We
can't just keep investing in something that you don't protect
and you don't honor the way that we've chosen to
what can we do?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Yeah, And I think that goes I've searched for an
explanation I have. Christopher Smith been a form of vice
mayor on the program every week, and one of his
mantras his repetitions over and over again, is his unhappiness with,
if I can phrase it that way, the city leadership
for their failure to out loud and regularly support the

(01:28:31):
idea of the police working with the police, telling the
police the population generally the police are not They're not
bad people. They're in fact, a wonderful organization that really
is there to help you, and so we need to
work with them. Let's establish relationships. The silence from the
administration has been deafening along those lines until, like I'm

(01:28:51):
surprised it didn't pop up right after June fourth, But
in the aftermath of what happened on Saturday, now you're
seeing even folks like AFT have Purval talk about crime
being the most important thing we need to address and
deal with.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Where have statements like that been prior to Saturday.

Speaker 14 (01:29:08):
Well, they've you know, they don't want to admit to failure.
And I understand that that's political suicide and as well.
But you can't fix a problem unless you admit it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Well, okay, and I'll say this out loud, We'll bring
it and we come back. Do you think maybe part
of the reason for their silence and their fared outloud
support police and failure to be forward thinking and keeping
the numbers of officers and ranks at a reasonable level
might be because of the left wing wing of the

(01:29:42):
Democrat Party that demands that we defund and rethink the
police department. So let's pause, We'll bring Sarah Herringerr back
and we'll have further cood discussion. She is in studio
for the full hour and I can't thank her enough
for stopping in and addressing these issues so important to
every resident of the city of Cincinnat. At seven sixteen
right now, we'll be right back on Colway.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station, our Ieheart.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
There is your Channel nine first Warning weather forecast. Sorry,
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leaving us a humid free day tomorrow. Today's high eighty three,
sixty five, overnight rain moving out. Got a mostly sunny
date tomorrow with the high of eighty nice overnight low

(01:30:35):
of sixty one with clear skies, and Saturday is going
to be partly sunny and also eighty degrees seventy four degrees.
Right now, it's time for a traffic update, Chuck from
the UCLP Traffic Center. You see Health Weight Loss Center
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That's a slow go around downtown right now thanks to closures.
I believe the Vice President is on the road. Westbound
two seventy five has closed it for seventy one, So
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on southbound fourth seventy one. Chuck Ingram on fifty five
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(01:31:21):
five KERCD talk station Brian Thomas with Sarah Herringer Olido
Patrick Herringer, who was tragically murdered on the fourth of June.
This year in their apartment over the Rhine, and we're
not going to dwell on that, but it's the predicate
for her being on the program this morning, but also
the predicate for her I would say, wonderful activism. You
have been an outspoken critic of the problems we're talking

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about here in the city of Cincinnati since that happened,
and it's it's terrible that that had to lead to this,
but I think you're doing a great job of elevating
to everyone else's attention some of the big failures we have.
I saw your post the other day about the judicial system,
and you know, we're talking about that before the program began,
and that's one of the failures the judicial system. We
have these you know, for one of a better term,

(01:32:04):
you can call them what you want. I'm going to
say liberal judges. I think they've been convinced that the
criminal justice system is somehow unfair and that for whatever reason,
bonds are a bad thing and we shouldn't have cash bonds,
and that meeting out justice for people who have actually
been convicted or have you know, plead guilty or pled

(01:32:25):
guilty rather to any given crime aren't given enough time.
It's almost like a handslap. Don't do it again and
lo and behold, there they are back in court again,
are involved with the police again. So that's one I
think that's the biggest problem that we face by way
of challenge. If we all got on board and we
all said, yes, we need more police, we're going to
do more lateral hires, we're going to refill the ranks,

(01:32:46):
we're going to start better patrolling. We'll come up with
all the solutions for the police department to do whatever's
within their power to do. If there's nobody on the
tail end providing the justice that's necessary, the deterrence effect
that's part of the justice system, then it's a pointless gesture.
And I know you have talked to officers and uh

(01:33:06):
and I told you before. My sister's retired police officer.
She still has a lot of friends and they stay
in time. And I've talked to other people and we
had a judge on yesterday Betsy Sunderman also the same
conclusion that morale is in the toilet and police don't
have any incentive to actually do their job and enforce

(01:33:27):
the law.

Speaker 14 (01:33:28):
Absolutely, yeah, you do. You see, uh, you know, not
in the information that I posted. Is that's just scratching
the surface. That that is you know, some cases that
we were able to get a hold of and show,
but it's just showing a trend. You know, it's a
single data point, but it's showing a trend of what

(01:33:49):
the jujitsial system is is doing and they how they
are interpreting the law and really taking matters into their
own hands instead of It's like, if you're going to
do that, then where is the critical thinking. You're not
supposed to write like it's supposed to be interpretation of
the law. But you're just letting these people out over

(01:34:09):
and over and over again. And the truth is is
there are very few people who are doing most of
the crimes. It's not that you know, and that is
why you're seeing them over and over and over again.
And there is no deterrence for them. And that is

(01:34:31):
clear in Cincinnati, they criminals are making fools of them.
They are not afraid of the cops, they are not
afraid of judges. They are are killing there. There's a
murder every single night. And also the crime that is happening,

(01:34:52):
all of those can easily escalate to murder. So even
when the chief of police is saying, well, we only
have five percent of crime is murder.

Speaker 13 (01:35:00):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 14 (01:35:02):
All of the other crimes that are happening can very
easily turn into that. And there they there is no
fear happening like this. You know what happened to Patrick.
We were not out on the streets. We were sleeping
in our home. Yeah, and he entered our home expecting right, Yes,

(01:35:26):
like not worried about it at all.

Speaker 13 (01:35:29):
Yes, quite honestly.

Speaker 14 (01:35:30):
And when you have, when you have a certain population
that none of us can think the way they think.
There's there, you know, that's the whole thing. We even
when you're talking about people who want to be lenient
on criminals.

Speaker 13 (01:35:47):
We don't have the mind of them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
We we like that.

Speaker 13 (01:35:51):
That is not we We would never do something right
like that in the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Right mind, would kick a door in in the middle
of the knowing full well that someone was occupying that dwelling,
you know, And if that were to happen in my house.
I'm heavily armed. I'm a proponent of the Second Amendment,
and I exercise my right. I'm a consumed carry holder.
I have strategically placed firearms in my home. I'm prepared

(01:36:16):
for that situation, so you.

Speaker 13 (01:36:18):
See it does and it's is.

Speaker 11 (01:36:24):
You know, it speaks volumes and being woken up at
four o'clock in the morning from exactly yes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Sarah, I'm glad you made that point out lawd it's
time for a break. We're going to continue this discussion
because I want you to enlighten my listeners about some
of the other crime that you personally and your late
husband experience leading up to June fourth, because I think
some of my listeners will be quite surprised about what
I believe you described as feral gangs of children. This
is really disturbing thing stuff, folks. It's seven twenty five

(01:36:54):
right now, We'll be right back with Sarah Herringer. Don't
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the day, which is a welcome relief. Eighty three for

(01:37:15):
the high, overnight low sixty five. Clear sky's got a sunny,
beautiful day tomorrow, the high of eighty and no humidity
sixty one, the overnight low clear and on Saturday, another
partly sunny day, another high of eighty seventy four degrees.
Right now, let's get a traffic update from the UCF
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Chuck Ingram h fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Here fifty five care CD talk station tried to have
a happy Thursday slash Friday Eve. It'spite of the subject
matter we're dealing with here, and it is a tragedy
that gave rise to my conversation this morning here with
Sarah Herringer in studio lost her husband to murder in
their own home four o'clock in the morning, which is
obviously an illustration of at least one of the many

(01:38:20):
problems we have in the City Cincinnati with crime, and
you know this can be a learned behavior.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
Sarah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
You were telling me about some of the crime that
you and your late husband experienced leading up to the
fourth because you've been in that area for about seven
years plus or minus. You had your business started there,
so you had a lot of interactions with you know,
folks in the community, good and bad. Let my listeners
know about some of the what you described, and I
thought it was a great way you phrased it. These
feral gangs of children that you had encountered regularly.

Speaker 6 (01:38:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:38:50):
Absolutely, every every summer we were we're like, oh, yep,
school's out, there's uh here they come and you see
acts of children and I mean they're anywhere from eight
sometimes younger sometimes all the way down to five years old,
but around eight to thirteen, fourteen, and you'll see them seven, eight,

(01:39:16):
nine of them, and there's one teenager you know, that's
in charge of all of them.

Speaker 13 (01:39:21):
And there's not a parent in sight anywhere.

Speaker 14 (01:39:24):
And it's not talking about like, oh it's you know,
nine o'clock, still in the lights out in Cincinnati.

Speaker 13 (01:39:30):
Just our summers here are amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:39:31):
It's eleven twelve, one o'clock in the morning and they're
running amok and there's zero supervision, parenting, consideration for their
safety either. And that is a pretty standard practice in
the neighborhood that I've lived in for the last seven

(01:39:52):
plus years.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Well, and I've talked to psychiatrists, psychologists, law enforcement officers,
people who work with you know, human services and trying
to provide a better path in a better way. I mean,
it is my nineteenth year and radio I've had more
discussions I even can remember about that, and without fail,
almost one hundred percent, everyone will point the blame at

(01:40:14):
the criminal problem, the crime problem at the hands of
the loss of the nuclear family, the fact that these
children don't live in a loving environment, even just if
it's one parent. And I think that, I mean that
right there, what you said, that there's somewhere where this
child ultimately goes and calls home, that there's not a
person there fretting and worrying over the fact that they're

(01:40:35):
eight nine year old child isn't home by midnight even
oh yeah, absolutely on any given night. I don't care
if it's a Saturday or Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
No.

Speaker 14 (01:40:46):
Yeah, it's a lack of secure attachment for them. And
that's where it starts. And that's why even you know,
thinking that prison is going to reform people, it's like
prison does not reform anyone. And you have to start
back that age back at that point, that starting point
is really where it begins.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
As with children, Yeah, punishment is a deterrence.

Speaker 14 (01:41:06):
Absolutely. There has to be consequences, and there really are none.
And when you have a brain that doesn't already you know,
it's not formed, fully formed, it doesn't really understand consequences
to begin with, and you allow their behavior to continually
have none, what are you teaching them?

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Well, And you can make a parallel to the education
system that way as well. If you're going to go
ahead and pass a child along to the next grade
when they don't have the skill sets necessary to master
the material in the grade they're in, they're not going
to learn anything, but they will learn that regardless of
how little effort they put into the project, they're going
to get moved forward.

Speaker 13 (01:41:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Yeah, so you had experienced with I think you referred
to him as a junior arsonist.

Speaker 7 (01:41:52):
Yes, we.

Speaker 14 (01:41:54):
I mean again, unfortunately, the crime that we've encountered that
personally downtown hasn't been limited to this instance. We had
boxes in the back of our pickup truck and they
were set on fire, and initially we were like, maybe
it's the smoldering heat, and we pulled our cameras and

(01:42:17):
there were three neighborhood kids who set them on fire.
And when the fire marshal, who did an exceptional job
finding them, catching them right away, it was not their
first offense. The one, the kid who had actually set
fire to the boxes, that was his third arson charge.

(01:42:38):
And in between the time of him being caught and
booked for arson of our truck and showing up for
his first day of court, he had also been tagged
with a agglevated burglary attempt. And so the and this
is this is a juvenile and you know, even if
we want to talk about the juvenile court system, I

(01:43:00):
mean that the whole idea behind that right was rehabilitate first,
punished second. But that started back when kids were shoplifting,
not when they were doing the type of crime that
they are committing now, and including crime, yes, ye exactly, murder, theft, assault, rape.

(01:43:22):
These are very different crimes that kids are committing these days,
and again not the type that you're you know, a
child that has secure attachment and their needs met and
parents not not the same outcomes rightly, clearly, and uh,

(01:43:43):
you know.

Speaker 13 (01:43:43):
Get the getting the child, getting the kid to even
show up.

Speaker 14 (01:43:47):
We did press charges because we're like, listen, you set
our truck on fire, and this was not the first
time you did this. This was not a oh, I'm
gonna see what happens, and yeah, this is this is
something that you're in intentionally doing. They knew to cover
their faces. They were like the whole thing was I'm like, oh,
they're well versed in this, and clearly I thought nobody

(01:44:09):
had held them accountable before. And then you start going
through the court process and you see that they don't
show up. It ended up being far more of a
pain for us getting subpoena, for Patrick getting subpoena all
the time, and he's like, no, I don't want to
charge the parents' money. I want this kid to stop

(01:44:30):
being a menace to society, and there's nothing in the
system to hold them accountable. So we ended up just
being like, ah, just you know, leave it, like it's
I can't keep being subpoena and stop everything that I'm doing.
It had been well more than a year and we're
still dealing with this. And the other thing was in
the summer of twenty three, and this was a really

(01:44:51):
big issue. We're in the market district, family market area
and our business was broken into multiple times, now multiple
business it's over nine businesses in that market area had
been broken into. There is a bar that ended up
having to go out of business because they were broken
into so many times. At some point you're like, you

(01:45:12):
can't You're going to be unensurable. You can't keep firing
or filing. And we you know, the business owners we
had congregated, we we were meeting with city council trying
to get help, trying to get help. I ended up
having to go to the media then as well in
order to get any type of response from the city.

(01:45:35):
And then they put a beat cop down there during
the day so people coming in would feel safe. And
it's like that is not when criminals are doing crime.
So again it's already then we see optics and not
doing the work to protect the business owners of that area.

(01:45:56):
And the truth is there was no policing done. We
had on our instance, they sent over a cop. She
had a tiny little notepad. Ouh, you were broken into
no fingerprints. We had cameras, they did not ask for
footage at all. There was nothing as far as looking

(01:46:16):
for the actual person. And then there was one one
guy who was arrested, the one who actually did the
break in. One night, we had seven people break in
at once because the one guy broke in and multiple
people came in. Patrick had to go, my husband had
to go and find that person and have choice words

(01:46:37):
because he kept trying to break in during business hours.
Even there's no the criminals do not fear police, They
do not fear repercussions. And so Patrick and that's you know,
we handled it in a way. He's a pretty intimidating
looking guy. And you know, the other guy didn't come back,

(01:46:58):
but he even went to the police and was like,
I can show you where he is. And the one
that they they did end up arresting, who truly was
mentally ill and really didn't do a lot of harm.

Speaker 13 (01:47:09):
I actually got a letter last week.

Speaker 14 (01:47:12):
It was addressed to Patrick saying, hey, this guy didn't
show up for his court dates, so we've warrant to
you know, we've worn out for his arrest and if
you need anything, called the victim's advocate. And it's it's
like it's just a it's a clown show the whole thing.
You're like, there isn't going to be justice with the

(01:47:34):
current system that's happening. There's no follow through. And yeah,
I think you know there is even down to a
point which we talked about earlier, and apathy that is coming.
That is so clear from the police department at this
point because they're humans and how many times can you
just see the same criminal release before you're like, what

(01:47:55):
am I doing?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Well? Pause, We'll bring Sarah hernker back for a couple
more segments here in the fifty five Caarsee morning show
in lightning and depressing it is, but it's wonderful information
to get out there. Maybe they're elected officials out there
listening who might decide to start working on some solution.
And speaking of solutions, I'm going to talk to Sarah
about some of the ones that they have put in
place and whether she believes any of them are bearing

(01:48:17):
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(01:48:49):
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Seven forty two. Here fifty five KRC the talk station
Brent Thomas with in studio Sarah Herringer, widow of Patrick
Herringer murdered in their home June fourth, and over the
rhyme talking about problems in heroin in the system, and
I think we've identified a lot of them. But what
about the so called reduced crime plans or whatever community
activism is supposed to be going on, funded by a government.

(01:49:43):
It's to address the problems that we're talking about today.
Generally speaking, you had mentioned to me this Act Act
Initiative initiative. Yeah, there, it's on the city website.

Speaker 14 (01:49:56):
It has a lot of you know, really passionate, flowy language,
you know, trauma informed. Sure, you know, yes, absolutely, and
it's it's well intentioned and it sounds like something that
would be beautiful for the community and that everyone would want. However,

(01:50:21):
the problem that we're having, I mean, at this point,
the numbers that I found is about five and a
half million dollars has been dumped into this program of
taxpayer money, right, Like, that's everything the government pays for
is our.

Speaker 13 (01:50:34):
Money, and there is zero line by line on where
this money is being spent.

Speaker 14 (01:50:42):
We know it's going to nonprofits, we know it's going
to consultants, but there's also no metrics for success attached
to it. How will you know something is working? Where
is the transparency on accountability? All of this money that's
being put into you know, uh, giving out sandwiches and

(01:51:04):
hip hop classes, how is.

Speaker 13 (01:51:05):
That deterring gun violence?

Speaker 14 (01:51:06):
And how can you prove that this money being spent
is doing exactly what it says that it's going to
be doing. And there just is zero follow through metrics, accountability, transparency,
and it extends far beyond just the Act initiative. There's
really no published data betwind spot Shotter, the Pivot program,

(01:51:28):
There's multiple programs that they the police have told me
this that they just keep renaming but they already know
doesn't work.

Speaker 13 (01:51:37):
But they need to put money somewhere.

Speaker 14 (01:51:40):
And that is a big problem is they just keep
funding and putting things and you know, paying people salaries.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Right, it's like a ribbon cutting ceremony. Oh look what
we brought, you cut the ribbon and then never talk
about it again.

Speaker 13 (01:51:56):
No, absolutely no follow through.

Speaker 14 (01:51:58):
Do we know what we're doing working and this is
how we're going to measure it and if it's not,
then we already have a plan B. Because yeah, sometimes
you need some trial and error in order to get
things to work. Recognize, but you have to have the
accountability and transparency, and I think that is the number
one issue that we are seeing with our local government

(01:52:20):
is there is zero of that. There is zero transparency,
there's zero accountability, and they are not measuring or tracking.
And so you might even have well intended and good people,
but they're not competent enough to measure the outcomes of
something because they don't exist and they think they're doing

(01:52:42):
a great job and they're not.

Speaker 13 (01:52:44):
And the results, as we've seen in Cincinnati speak.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
For itself at the crime levels.

Speaker 13 (01:52:48):
I think it's pretty clear that we know that whatever
they're funding is not working.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
So yeah, wait a second, all these metrics that we're
looking for, how do you determine if it's working or not.
You can't prove something. Of course, we prevented all types
of crime, and these statistics would be through the roof
but four. But they're still on the up switch. Yes,
we're not getting better than last year. We're getting worse.

Speaker 14 (01:53:10):
Yes, and significantly worse, especially in the downtown OTR area
that is really skyrocketed in crime.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
And destroying what they the very thing that they were
looking for when they redeveloped over the Rhine. Now I'm
old enough that I worked in over the ruine at
Finlay Market when I was in late high school in
early college. That was before any money was in. It
was just really kind of comparatively a disaster visually anyway,
But honestly, I really never feared. I wasn't afraid for

(01:53:40):
my safety or anything. I worked some goofy hours. You
didn't get there at five o'clock in the morning, and
sometimes you were you know, you hit the bar afterwards.
And yes I was underage. They didn't really care back then,
and maybe not get home until eleven o'clock. So I
was there in different hours, but never I never was concerned.
Parked on the street, walked by myself to my car.
I wouldn't do that now to save my soul.

Speaker 14 (01:54:00):
No, Yeah, and I can't speak to it then. However, Yeah,
I can't say it enough, like downtown is not safe.
And this is because of right the current leadership that we.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Have, and I imagine it is probably having an impact
on real estate values. There's wonderful condos that people spent
six hundred thousand dollars for. You're not going to get
that back now. Word's gotten out. So the project and
the motive behind it to get young, money earning tax
payers to move into this urban, hipster, walkable community environment

(01:54:33):
that they talked about all the time. It's going the
opposite direction. Why because they embrace this sort of liberal
philosophy when it comes to meeting out punishment in the
criminal justice system. We'll have a few more minutes with
Sarah Herringer. Take a quick break.

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Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
Day three seven fifty one fifty five kr C the
Talk Station, closing out this hour long discussion with Sarah Herringer,
the widow of Patrick Herringer, and we've been talking about
the aftermath of the tragedy that happened to their home
on June fourth, when someone broke into their home in

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the middle of the night, four o'clock in the morning
and stabbed her late husband to death. And this has
given her a platform to bring to everyone's attention, most
notably those who might not be inclined to vote in
an election. I will say I'll volunteer that, Sarah. I'm
not going to put words in your mouth, but at
least you know you're in a position because of this

(01:56:27):
that people are paying attention to what you're saying. Right,
You're a provider of valuable information and with the spotlight
on you. People are like, oh my god, I did
not know that was going on. I did not know
that we had no accountability with these programs. I didn't
realize the judicial system was this broke when you got
judges releasing these repeat offenders over and over again. So

(01:56:51):
I know my listening audience, and I certainly applaud your
efforts in doing this because in spite of the tragedy
that you have to deal with and continue to cope with,
at least you have the limelight for a while. Do
you think there is any possibility as we fast approach
the November election, we have a complete Democrat council, and
I don't think that necessarily means that they are against

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police or not. But we know over the past forty
years what has happened within downtown Cincinnati. We know we're
down on police numbers. We know they didn't get ahead
of the police department numbers loss. We know that they
in some cases maybe of allocated resources that should have
gone to law enforcement or public safety in other directions.
Do you think there's still hope for the city. I mean,

(01:57:35):
would an administration change or a shakeup on the membership
of council or maybe the mayor. And I know it's
an unlikely scenario that the city's going to start, you know,
maybe turn to Corey Bowman. But do you think a
seat change on council and leadership might help?

Speaker 14 (01:57:51):
I would have to say yes that a seat change
would help. I also want to be critical of those
who just think if we, you know, changed over the
entire regime, then these problems would just go away overnight.
It's still power that is being abused and what's really

(01:58:13):
important for people to understand and to learn how to
navigate when we're intentionally not tadd this. As Americans, you
get a Civics class in ninth grade when you're too
young and you don't care, and the rest of your
time is spent on STEM. You only learn about the
political system if you choose to major as a political
science major. But there needs to be a demand of

(01:58:37):
transparency and accountability for whomever is in leadership, and the
leadership now what they they could change? You know, if
we go back to cancel culture even it's like, why
don't you give people an opportunity to make changes and
show us can they or will they? And if they won't,

(01:58:58):
then yeah, I think that's it's a pretty good argument
for getting someone out and giving someone who is saying
that they're in alignment with your values and want what
you want a really good chance.

Speaker 13 (01:59:09):
And it is the truth. You may not get that entirely.

Speaker 14 (01:59:15):
And so I don't think we should put all of
our eggs in one basket of We need a complete
new regime, We need an entirely new leadership. We also
need to learn how to use our voices to hold
those accountable who are there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Well, it's difficult to hold them accountable. And here I
am take a cheap shot at af to have Purwall
when he leaves town after knowing full well there has
been a terribly violent occurrence in the city and he
decides to leave in the afternoon and go on vacation. Anyway, Yes,
I said that out loud. I'm not putting words in
Sarah Heringer's mouth, but I think it speaks volumes about

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a failed administration. Sarah. I am a listening audience, and
I pray for you, hope you know, for your swift
recovery in the aftermath. It's very emotional time for you.
But again, I really truly applaud your efforts and trying
to get people engaged and involved. And if you could
ask something of my listening audience, I mean, what would
you say, I mean, be more like me and bring

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this to people's attention, talk about it more. I mean,
any advice or something you would ask of them.

Speaker 13 (02:00:15):
Yeah, I mean I wouldn't tell them to be more
like me.

Speaker 14 (02:00:17):
I would say, I would say, believe in yourself, empower yourself,
for sure. But these are really important things and people.
I do believe that most people are good people. They're
doing the best that they can. And we all want
safe you know, safe homes, safe communities, a place for

(02:00:39):
us to have a good life, for us to create
beautiful things, for us to you know, reap the benefits
of everything that we're working so hard for. And I
think what I would would tell them is to stay fighting.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
Sarah Herringer, it's been a true pleasure having you in studio.
I appreciate your time today and your efforts thus far,
and I hope you continue. You got a good voice,
you have obviously a lot of respect from a lot
of people generally speaking for what you're doing in the
courage you're showing. Of course, amid the tragic circumstances that
gave rise to all this what I'll call activism. Keep

(02:01:16):
up the great work, Sarah. And if you ever need
a voice, if you ever have something to pass along,
if you get additional developments you want to spread farther
and wider, you are more than welcome to just even
place a phone call here to the fifty five KRC
More and Shore, or make the trip back in. I
love having the studio.

Speaker 13 (02:01:32):
Yep, We'll come anytime.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
God bless you, Sarah. Take care seven fifty seven right
off top of the our news or and hear from
Secretary of State Frank LeRose he just got back from
a meeting with Donald Trump regarding election integrity. That plus
I heard me the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, come on
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That's the only way to stay in for him.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Fifty five KRC the talk station, Ato six fifty five
kr SE the talk station. It was an amazing conversation
with Sarah Man. She has maintains her composure, and I
was expecting an allergy outpreate to be quite honest with you,
and almost had one in the close of that segment

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with Sarah, she did want everyone to know. While she
did not want to talk about the actual murder of
her husband and wanted to steer clear of the details
of that he died saving her life. So wanted to
make sure that everyone knew that because Sarah thought it
a very important and yes, a very important detail concerning

(02:02:45):
the quality and character of the late Patrick Herringer. Welcome
back to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. Completely changing
gears to a very positive meeting. Apparently we have on
the program the return of Ohio's Secretary of State, Frank LeRose. Frank,
it is always a real pleasure having you on the program.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
Well, thanks for having me back, Brian, looking forward to
this conversation and hope things are going well for you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
Things going great as far as great goes. But understand,
speaking of great, that you had what might be described
as a great meeting with the White House regarding voter
integrity the other day. I saw your post on social
media about that, declaring it a very productive meeting. What
was the purpose of the meeting, what did you discuss,
and what do we have to look forward to? Frank LeRose, Yeah,
this is a.

Speaker 4 (02:03:28):
Group that has grown in the last several months. Way
back in February, just a month into the new administration,
myself and one or two other secretaries of State got
together with the President's policy team. At that point, they
were just in the development process of the Executive Order
on Election Integrity.

Speaker 9 (02:03:46):
That the President has done.

Speaker 4 (02:03:47):
And then we met again in April and it was
a larger group, and now getting together in July, we
had I think fifteen twenty other secretaries of State from
around the country, including, by the way, a bipartisan representation.
I'm proud to say we were able to get a
few Democrats to join in the conversation, and that's good.

Speaker 9 (02:04:04):
That's how elections administration should work.

Speaker 4 (02:04:06):
And largely what the conversation.

Speaker 9 (02:04:09):
Was about is list maintenance.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
Now you may start to think snooze, boring list maintenance,
absolutely not.

Speaker 9 (02:04:15):
Actually.

Speaker 4 (02:04:15):
In fact, one of the most important things that elections
officials do is maintain accurate voter rules. And it's hard.
We've been leading the charge on this in Ohio for
a long time and kind of setting the example for
the rest of the country.

Speaker 9 (02:04:30):
And how do you maintain accurate voter rules?

Speaker 6 (02:04:31):
What does this mean?

Speaker 9 (02:04:32):
Taking dead people off.

Speaker 4 (02:04:33):
The rules, taking making sure non citizens never get on
the voter rules, right when people move from one county
to another, or god forbid, somebody moves out of Ohio.

Speaker 9 (02:04:43):
Don't know why they would want.

Speaker 4 (02:04:44):
To do that, making sure they get removed from the
voter rules. So those are the things that we've done
in Ohio for a long time. But we've had to
work around the federal government.

Speaker 9 (02:04:52):
Not so much with the federal government.

Speaker 4 (02:04:54):
Even though they are a repository of a lot of
this data that we need to do voter list maintenance.
In fact, last year I had to sue the Biden
administration to try to get some basic citizenship data so
that we could prevent non citizens from becoming registered to vote.
I can tell you it's been a complete change of
attitude with the Trump administration, and what they're doing is

(02:05:15):
truly remarkable because they're pulling together all these different parts
of the federal government, and isn't that what an executive
is supposed to do and getting them to actually do
the job you see, the Social Security Administration has good
data on who has died because they don't want to
send those Social Security checks anymore.

Speaker 9 (02:05:32):
So Social Security is really good at that, but they
wouldn't give us that data.

Speaker 4 (02:05:35):
Finally, they are the Department of Homeland Security has pretty
good data on who's a citizen and who's not, but
they made it enormously hard for us to get a
hold of that. Until recently, the federal government didn't always
know what the left in the right hand was doing.
But the Trump administration's pulling all those entities together to
make this thing called.

Speaker 9 (02:05:54):
The Save Database work.

Speaker 4 (02:05:56):
The Save Database is what secretaries of State are now
able to use in a much more streamlined way to
maintain the accuracy of our voter rules. And I couldn't
be happier with the work that the Trump administration is doing.
By the way, previous administrations told us that this would
take years to do, It would cost millions of dollars.
They may never be able to get the project done

(02:06:18):
to do this, and the Trump Administration's done it like
in the last five months.

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Yeah, we need a new laws for immigration on the
books before we could stop the open border from happening.
And oh, look, no new law, the borders shut down.
It is amazing what a change of administration can bring about.

Speaker 9 (02:06:33):
Leadership.

Speaker 4 (02:06:34):
Leadership matters, And I'll tell you what, government is excellent
at making excuses. And there's a lot of good people
that work in government, don't get me wrong, But deep
within the bureaucracy, whether it's a city hall, a county government,
a state government, or the federal government, are a lot
of people who are just wired to say no because
it's safer that way. Well, the federal government has not

(02:06:56):
always moved this fast, but the president has got his
people say and yes, yes, we can do this. We
can find a way to access this information, by the way,
in a way that is secure and maintains confidentiality for
people's personal information. But we can use the vast troves
of data that the federal government has to maintain accurate voterals.

Speaker 6 (02:07:15):
It is our job.

Speaker 9 (02:07:16):
And by the way, it's actually called for.

Speaker 4 (02:07:19):
In legislation that was passed years ago. They just keep
telling us they couldn't do it. Finally, this administration is
making it happen.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
Well, I guess I'm kind of curious to know what
the argument was in the years they were fighting against
your getting access to this critically important information that they have, Like,
for example, the Social Security Administration. Now we know that
they have two hundred year old people still apparently perceived
as alive. That's being worked out and fixed. But generally speaking,

(02:07:46):
let's seem for the sake of discussion, they have some
really good, valuable information on who's died. What possible reason
could they articulate for not letting you have it? Because
federal law does not allow dead people to vote in elections.
You want those off the rolls just to prevent fraud
from happening. Isn't that a concept that should be universally embraced,
regardless of political strife.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08:08):
Absolutely, And listen, the data that those Security Administration has
is pretty good.

Speaker 9 (02:08:12):
Because they don't want to send checks to dead people.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
Anybody that's had a loved one pass and we haven't
in my family just in the last year, those Social
Security checks stop pretty pretty a properly, they're usually pretty
much on top of that. What we had used for
years is and we still use this, by the way,
because this is a multi layer approach, is we use
the Ohio Department of Health and we get that list
from them every month I actually passed the bill when

(02:08:35):
I was in the state Senate that created this process.
Ten years ago, this didn't exist, but every month the
Department of Health tells us who has passed. We used
that list to remove them from the vtererals. The challenge
comes in about people that pass away in another state
or even God forbid, out of the country, because the
depth record is generally created where the person is deceased.
So if you're at your place in the Carolinas or

(02:08:58):
Florida or whatever else and.

Speaker 9 (02:08:59):
You pass away, we know about it, and obviously the.

Speaker 4 (02:09:02):
Federal government is able to aggregate that at a fifty
state level much more effectively.

Speaker 9 (02:09:07):
You asked the question what was their excuse.

Speaker 4 (02:09:09):
Their excuse was generally some version of you hay seeds
out there in flyover country wouldn't know what to do
with this complicated government data, and you would probably incorrectly
remove people from the voterals. There was a bit of
a great deal of arrogance. In fact, a person from
the Department of Homeland Security last year, when we were
asking them to be able to query their database using

(02:09:31):
common numbers like last four of US Social Security never
repaired with data of birth, full name, address that kind
of thing. She was saying, well, we used to allow
states to do that, but we think that they were
misusing it.

Speaker 9 (02:09:42):
So we stopped and I said, well, trust us.

Speaker 4 (02:09:43):
It's my statutory responsibility to remove people from the voterals,
for example, non citizens, and keep them off the voter roles.

Speaker 9 (02:09:51):
So trust me with that data and make it available
to us.

Speaker 4 (02:09:54):
Again, we had to sue the Biden administration to get that,
and so it was a lot of arrogance from the
people in DC.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
Quite honestly, I can't chalk it off as arrogance. What
I think it is is actually that they want to
create an environment where it is possible for people to
vote who are not lawfully entitled to vote. I mean,
we've got all these blue states that are losing hemorrhaging
taxpayers and replacing them with illegal immigrants. It's happened in California,
it's happened in New York, New Jersey, all the other

(02:10:22):
really high tax states that everybody's fled. I think some
of them even said the quiet part out loud, is
we need of these people here for the purpose of
maintaining a certain number of representatives in the House. But
more fundamentally, if they're allowed to vote, this certainly could
be large numbers influencing the outcome of the election.

Speaker 4 (02:10:41):
Well, Brian, maybe I was very carefully answering the exact
question you asked me, because you asked me. The reasons
that they gave me one that we couldn't handle it.
But what you're getting to is their motivation behind the scenes.
And yeah, you're right, I think that it's a mix
of just that insidious. Some people, particularly on the left,
just want the vote voter rules to be voted.

Speaker 9 (02:11:02):
Others just don't believe.

Speaker 4 (02:11:03):
It's a problem, and they say, well, you know, nobody
would actually try to commit voter fraud. It's exceedingly rare.
And I'll be the first to tell you as a
percentage of the overall total of votes, it is a
It is a small number. We see, you know, dozens
or hundreds. We prosecute them, and we make sure that
people face justice.

Speaker 9 (02:11:23):
When they do try to break the law.

Speaker 4 (02:11:24):
But here's the thing. Elections in Ohio come down to
small margins all over the country, and yet it's probably
not going to determine a governor's race or a US
Senate race. But you know what, it can make a
big difference in a school board election or a little
tax levy, a mayor's race. We've had mayors races in
Ohio within the last couple of years that came.

Speaker 9 (02:11:43):
Down to a coin flip.

Speaker 4 (02:11:44):
Yeah, and so don't tell me one fraudulent vote is
something that we can just you know, let go by.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
Well, I guess I saw an article about Georgia. Was
a Secretary State Brad Raffensburger part of your working group.
Brad was there, Yeah, because he just announced they're removing
four hundred and eighty thousand inactive voters in their state's
voter rolls. And so obviously that a potential looming problem

(02:12:10):
right there. And there's there's four hundred and eighty thousand
people it shouldn't have been on the voter roles in
the in the first instance.

Speaker 4 (02:12:16):
And kudos to Brad for doing that. We haven't always
been on the same sheet on things. But but but
Brad's an engineer by training, as he comes with a
background in construction and architecture, and he's a good mind
when it comes to the analytical set of things.

Speaker 9 (02:12:31):
We're doing the same in Ohio.

Speaker 6 (02:12:33):
We do it every year now, so.

Speaker 4 (02:12:34):
Our numbers don't necessarily get that large. But we've got
a couple hundred thousand that we're removing in September.

Speaker 9 (02:12:41):
Now, what you're going to hear is just watch for
this on.

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
Social media and in the newspapers. The liberals are going
to claim that I'm urging the voter rolls and I'm
taking all these people off the voter roles. We're not
taking people off the voter roles. In most cases, we're
taking bad records out of the voter rules. And so
we've got a couple hundred thousand that are set to
be removed in September. I had an innovation a couple

(02:13:04):
of years ago that other states are now following.

Speaker 9 (02:13:07):
We published that list.

Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
We published that list months ago, and we said, if
any voter advocacy group, city, any groups out there, think
that my list is wrong, then crowdsource this, go through it,
tell me where it's wrong. But we've gotten that down to.

Speaker 9 (02:13:20):
A pretty good process now.

Speaker 4 (02:13:22):
And when we removed those couple hundred in September, what
we're doing is taking away those that have moved out
of state and failed to remove the registration, those that
may have died out of state. And because we didn't
have that social security data previously. We didn't catch them
in our scrub of deceased voters and in those that
are just duplicates. And sometimes that happens very rarely because

(02:13:43):
of a data entry error at a board of elections,
But when there's humans involved, there's found to be some
level of human error. And so we're proud of the
process we have in Ohio and really hold it up
as an example for the rest of the country to follow.
This came up in Congress just two weeks ago where
there was an election expert testifying in front of the
House Admin Committee, and he said, look at what Ohio's doing,
and the other forty nine should.

Speaker 6 (02:14:04):
Follow that well.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
And to the extent someone was erroneously removed, that doesn't
prevent them from reregistering to vote, does it.

Speaker 9 (02:14:13):
It will take you.

Speaker 4 (02:14:13):
About two minutes register to vote at vote Ohio dot
gov if you are a eligible voter.

Speaker 9 (02:14:20):
And by the way, we don't want to remove anybody.

Speaker 4 (02:14:22):
Inaccurately, so we'll go through a lot of processes to
get this done right and get this done accurately and
real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
Because it's been a hot topic or conversation of late,
people who are registered in more than one states and
receiving benefits from more than one states in the Medicaid program,
when you find that someone has moved out of state
in your efforts to keep the voting roles accurate, does
that information get shared with Medicaid by any chance?

Speaker 9 (02:14:46):
So not directly. We have to go through the process
of doing that.

Speaker 4 (02:14:50):
I'm actually involved right now in a conversation with the
US Department of Agriculture, which maintains the SNAP system right
commonly known as foodstaffs, because have found evidence of people
receiving food stamps in multiple states yep. And so we've
got a conversation going right now with Secretary Rollins at
the Department of Agriculture, and then we have to do

(02:15:10):
the investigation to find out are they registered in both states?

Speaker 9 (02:15:13):
Did they try to vote in those states?

Speaker 4 (02:15:14):
And if they did, we'll pursue prosecution for them where
the second voter curt because that's where the crime is.

Speaker 9 (02:15:20):
If they voted a second time in Ohio.

Speaker 4 (02:15:21):
Will refer them to our county prosecutors and our state
AG or to that state's ag where the second voter curve.

Speaker 9 (02:15:27):
We take this stuff very seriously.

Speaker 2 (02:15:29):
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God bless you, sir, Thank you for the time you
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Speaker 6 (02:18:17):
Hard to believe that July is almost past us you know,
I'm not ready to let go any of this summer.
And you know, we turned the page and we're talking August.

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Oh well, like forth coming up sometime soon, I know,
coming gone.

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
Anyway, it's out of the list. But I know you
can handle this one. I throw your curb ball every
once in a while, which you have no problem with.
I was reading it was reading on the update of
the collision between the air the airliner and the Army
helicopter that happened. I guess that was what januine, which
seems like yesterday. I know that they try to put

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some measure of blame on the air traffic controllers, but
it's been revealed that apparently the altimeters really aren't up
stuff in the black Hawk helicopters, and they might have
not even known what altitude that they were flying. I
saw an article, I guess on Fox saying the Army
acknowledge that Blackhawk helicopter altimeters maybe more than one hundred
feet off, before adding that their pilots aim to maintain

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altitude with one hundred feet of e limit. I guess
aiming to and accomplishing it two completely different things. But
altimeter issues, but the other thing that almost was more troubling.
I know, you've got a lot of strong words for
the Federal Aviation Administration pro and con, but the FAA
didn't make any route changes or provide polets with any
warnings despite eighty five near misses in the past three years.

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These are military flights, and I think I asked you
when this first came out, Jay, why in the hell
do they have to fly so close to an airport
that's got jets coming in and out of it.

Speaker 6 (02:20:03):
Well, you have a lot of people being shuttled to
and from the inner workings of Washington. You have a
lot of military political people that are being being shuffled
back and forth. Kind of an air taxi is the
best way to look at it. And then you've got
NonStop training, You've got a bunch of other things that
are taking place, and yeah, it just happens to take
place right next to a large commercial airport. And we've

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had issues and this has been on the radar for
the FAA for a number of years about how this
has become in their words, you know, in my estimation,
they looked at it as more of an annoyance than
something that was directly related to a safety issue, because again,
the air traffic control team in the military have worked

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well together to make sure that these you know, near
accidents didn't become accidents, and it took something like this
for everybody to kind of wake up and say, wait
a minute, we've been flirting with this disaster scenario for
such a long period of time. It was just something
that was pretty much waiting to happen. But when it
first took place, the first thing that hit all of

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us was the fact that the aircraft that was descending
was at an altitude that should have been well above
where that helicopter was allowed to be. And knowing that
it was higher than that suggests that, okay, either the
crew made a mistake and ignored some of the or
misinterpreted the air traffic control communication, or there could have

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been something mechanical going on with their aircraft. And when
we hear the altimeters are not completely reliable as we
would like to and I'm thinking, how in the heck
is that possible to the military aircraft where you would
want everything to be. You took for the crew standpoint
absolutely perfect. It makes you think, why what? And you know,

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that's the first time that I had heard of the
fact that the equipment on board that type of a
helicopter is less than one hundred percent reliable. That means
that some of this stuff is subjective, left up to
the crew to do your best. And to me, that
is just that's not aviation, that's the old days of
crop dusting. We're talking about state of the art technology

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that these men and women should be able to have
and the fact that they didn't. Now whether or not
that did or did not contribute to the to the crash,
we don't know, but it's obvious that most flight crews
would not have been that far out of position. The
regional jet was where it was supposed to be, the
helicopter was not, and sadly that's what led to the disaster.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
Well, honestly, I really don't care about the time commitments
of the people being shuttled back and forth just to
have the flight to go in front of a runway.

Speaker 6 (02:22:44):
It sounds like I feel more important if they shuttle
me like that, I feel, you know, yeah, yeah, I'm
a thousand percent behind his usual brother.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
All right, rather than go over, let's go take an
earlier break, and then we're going to address the packer
of passenger of evacuation from an aircraft for the tires
of change, which can dovetail into the congress or congress
manalies calling for revised safety evacuation assessment.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
That a whole lot more.

Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
With Jay rattlife would be right back, don't go.

Speaker 1 (02:23:13):
Away fifty five KRC the past.

Speaker 2 (02:23:18):
I heard me theaight ah expert, Jay Ratlett every Thursday
at this time, moving over dovetailer with another issue. You
brought up congressmen apparently calling for revised safety evacuation assessment,
citing previous studies which apparently were flawed. You can explain that.
But we also have a passenger of vacuation. I saw
the video from this one. Be careful when you're sliding

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down the slide, but the tires had caught fire. Can
you marry these two subjects? Are they completely different?

Speaker 9 (02:23:45):
Jay?

Speaker 6 (02:23:46):
Well, they dubtail, they do. I think it's not a stretch.
But we had the American Airlines flight that was in
the process of taking off. Of course, we have the
incredible hot summer temperatures. Those tire overheated blue caught on fire.
The takeoffice is canceled and the smoke from the fire
on of the tire starts to seep into to the

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cabin area, and the captain calls for an immediate evacuation.
So they have the evacuation process where the flight attendants
are screaming, leave your hand, carry bags behind, get off
the airplane. Now, remember ninety seconds is what we should
be looking at, getting everybody off that aircraft. Well, everybody's
going down the chute. And then of course afterwards you
see the video of people strolling across the tarmac with

(02:24:32):
what bags of wheels behind us? Now wait a minute,
that would suggest that these idiots stopped and collected their
large overhead compartment luggage and slowed the evacuation process. Now, Brian,
if it were me the FAA, I would say, I'm
finding every one of these people one hundred thousand dollars fifty.
I would find them to the point that it smacked

(02:24:53):
them up side the head with one of these things.
Because it was back in twenty sixteen, American Airlines had
a aircraft in Chicago on fire. It took four and
a half minutes or so to get everybody off the airplane.
No nobody was injured or nobody died. There were some
minor injuries. The National Transportation Safetyboard, in their usual incredible

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all star effort a year later, came out with their
final report. One of the things they cited, this is
in twenty seventeen, was that passengers need to be held
accountable if they slowed the evacuation process, because that's what
delayed that flight and everybody getting off not ninety seconds
but four and a half minutes. So the thought back then,

(02:25:34):
the recommendation seven years ago, was let's do something about this.
We've not twenty nineteen, Aeroflot aircraft gets hit by lightning.
They land, the aircraft's on fire. The whole back of
the airplanes on fire. They can only evacuate out the front.
The video shows people coming down the exit ramps, one
after the other, after the other after the other, and

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then it stops for like eight seconds, and then you
see this idiot with three large bags taking his big
butt off the airplane. Moments later, the airplane blows up.
Forty one people die. Do you think that that guy
caused the death of people behind him. Absolutely, So, Brian,
this is such a huge issue that we're just not addressing.

(02:26:17):
And that's one of the reasons when I see that,
the fact that people have completely ignored the instructions of
a uniform crew member, which is a felony by the way,
not being held accountable, it really bothers me. So that's
what happened in Denver. But the Congressman is not necessarily
addressing that. He says, Look, we have a ninety second

(02:26:38):
evacuation rule in aviation, and he's saying that you know,
as you and I know, that every aircraft approved for
commercial use has to demonstrate that that plane can be
evacuated safely in ninety seconds or less when half of
the exits are blocked in limited visibility. Now, to make
sure this is the case, the FAA does a test
every few years to make sure that we're still in compliance.

(02:27:01):
So they took a group of people, ran the test,
stamped it as approved. This was about five years ago.
This congressman thing time I hear there were no children
used in this test. There were no unaccompanied children, there
were no children traveling with passengers or their families. We
had no elderly passengers we had no service animals. We

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had people of average size.

Speaker 2 (02:27:25):
I mean, I was just going they do a study
thing that included morbidly obese folks.

Speaker 6 (02:27:31):
They did not. They did not. So the thought is
that this isn't an accurate assessment, and he's calling for
a do over.

Speaker 9 (02:27:38):
Now.

Speaker 6 (02:27:38):
I appreciate the congressman's efforts here, but Brian, I so
want these efforts to be directed towards today's problem of
I don't care if we have a ninety second achievement
and it's right or not. It's the fact that we
have these people that are defined year after year after

(02:27:59):
year after year the rule of leaving your large bags. Look,
if it's winter, you need to pop the top, grab
your coat and run. I totally get it. But to
drag a bag out and slow down the process is
to me unforgivable. And what's going to happen is, sadly,
eventually you and I are going to have the very

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sad conversation where something happens, people die, and that's when
these same people who are doing nothing now are going
to pull that hamstring running to the nearest microphone so
they can proclaim how they care and how they're going
to make sure this doesn't happen again and all the
other craft that's going to come out of their mouth,
now's the time to do something about it. And with

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these liftium batteries that continue to overheat on a flight
at least once a week, these emergency evacuations are only
going to increase in frequency. So if there's never been
a more critical time for this discussion than now, I
don't know what is. And we've got to do something
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:57):
Well, you started off on your rant, and a well
worthy worthy I might interject sucker is saying, you know,
if it was you, you'd find them one hundred thousand dollars.
Something that would make it stick, something will wake people
the hell up that they shouldn't be slowing things down
in an emergency situation. Is there currently any law on
the book? Now, you mentioned you have to obey the
orders of the flight attendant. I'm sure the flight attendant
said some of the effects, we're going to emergency evacuate,

(02:29:18):
leave your stuff where it is.

Speaker 6 (02:29:21):
Is that and constantly say it over and over and
over again. Certainly eighty times they say that as passengers
are evacuating.

Speaker 2 (02:29:28):
So you haven't a scene. The other day from this
tire fire where you said people were getting off the
slide and had their bags with them right there. You
have great illustrations, they're on video. You know who the
passenger list is. You can find the folks, find them.

Speaker 6 (02:29:42):
They don't. They don't. And that's that's one of the
issues you. Of course, it might be, well, we may
not get everybody. Well, I don't care if you see
forty eight people out of two hundred that are out
there with a large back This as a backpack that
they pulled out from the seat before him. Totally understand.
You can hold out to your chest and go. But
when you're talking about these great big things, that just

(02:30:04):
slow things down. But of course you get into that
legal murky waters of okay, this is subjective. Is my
large hand car roller bag bigger or smaller than your
backpack that you had carried down? In other words, is
everybody again fine? Only part of them? Begin Whatever it is,

(02:30:25):
something's got to be done to send a message.

Speaker 2 (02:30:28):
They'll have to lawyer up and pay a guy four
hundred dollars an hour to make that argument on their behalf.
That's enough pain to go through, just the legal process,
even if the guy's successful and convincing them that it's
arbitrary or whatever. At least you force them to some
pain as a consequence of them putting everyone's life in jeopardy. Jeez, Louise, Jay,
that's such a heart breaker.

Speaker 6 (02:30:49):
It is a lot of times we I'll have this
discussion and somebody emails the me. He says, Jay, couldn't
they just lock the overhead compartments to make it impossible?
And certainly that is something that could happen, and they
could do it. But the problem is that muscle memory
being what it is, passengers would forget that they're locked. Yeah,
oh yeah, and precious time trying to unlock the guessing

(02:31:10):
it's stuck. They're going to pound on it, and all
that's going to do is slow the evacuation. Muscle memory
also comes into play during an emergency evacuation when people
reach for their seat belts. We found in emergencies they
don't look to lift the flap. They do as they
do in a car. In an emergency, they're putting their
hand down there to push a button that's not there.

(02:31:31):
And that's one of the reasons the pre mark of
the pre flight briefing, the flight attends are reminding everyboy, look,
when you're getting out your seatbelt, you lift the flap.
Most people are just laughing at that. No, there's a
reason for it, because we've had people trapped in their
seats because they couldn't get their seat belt off because
they're subconsciously just trying to push a button instead of
looking down and lifting that flap.

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
Okay, I one of the people that last with it. Again,
I have never, ever, ever not operated my airline seat
latch incorrectly or tried to push down on a button. Sure,
Jay Ratliffe, let's find out about why that.

Speaker 6 (02:32:02):
When the plane's on fire though, brother, Yeah, and there's
people freaking out and you're in that flight or you know,
effect light mode. Who knows what we're thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:32:10):
Don't put me through that. I don't want to find
out what we got.

Speaker 4 (02:32:13):
More.

Speaker 2 (02:32:13):
We'll find out why Delta Airline pilot was arrested. Plus
we'll get a hub delay update and uh at a
joke streker like pay increase rejected by United flight attendants.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
Be right back with Jay Ratlift fifty five krc OHC.

Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
One more time for the weather. Ten and nine says
today not bad mostly cloudye and uh, midday storms are
very likely, but we get a drop in humidity throughout
the day. Eighty three for the high sixty five overnight
clear skies, sunny and pleasant eighty degrees. Tomorrow overnight low
sixty one with clear skies and a partly Sunday Saturday,
and I have eighty again, closing out at seventy seven degrees.

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That's nine twenty two sixty three.

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The left shoulder. No delay approaching the bridge.

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Southbound seventy five parak flights continued through Lachland, same for
northbound seventy five futtermilk towards Kyle's chuck ingram on.

Speaker 5 (02:33:19):
Fifty five KRC, the talk station.

Speaker 2 (02:33:27):
Coming about seven or eight fifty to fifty five kr
CD talk station Frank Thomas. One more segment here with
iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliffe and a Delta Airlines pad
got arrested after the flight landed in San Francisco. How
did what brought this about? Jay?

Speaker 6 (02:33:42):
This was a Minneapolis to San Francisco flight. Flight lands
pulls to the gate's announcement for everybody remained seated, the
jet bridge is attached, the door opens in ten. I
believe it was law enforcement officers stormed the aircraft and
you're thinking, Okay, who are they? After you go the

(02:34:02):
cockpit and remove the first officer from the plane. Apparently
there was an issue with sexual abuse children other types
of things.

Speaker 2 (02:34:12):
Oh one, you know that that he was being.

Speaker 6 (02:34:16):
Questioned about, So what indn't that taking place? They removed
him and out the aircraft. He went in front of everybody.
So I don't know why it required that many, but
I'm sure that they have a good reason for it.
And yep, he was removed from the flight delta. Obviously,
no comment yet because of you know, everything's still being

(02:34:37):
being worked out, but that was the reason. Initially when
it happened, we didn't know what the problem was, but
later on we were given the details and yeah, that's
that's what was going on in that situation.

Speaker 2 (02:34:48):
Oh wow, Well they'll have fun in prison knowing what
they do in prison too.

Speaker 6 (02:34:54):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:34:56):
Joe Strecker like pay raise offered United flight A and
it's twenty six percent pay raise. He gets those every year, Jay,
apparently not every quarter.

Speaker 6 (02:35:06):
But yeah, flight attendants or United said no, thanks, wow.
They had about yeah, they had ninety I think twenty
six twenty eight thousand flight attends forgive me, the numbers
are going to be approximate. Here they have ninety two
percent maybe voting, and seventy some percent of them said no. Uh,
they said it wasn't industry leading enough. And one of

(02:35:27):
the reasons that flight attendants, pilots and others when they
have these back and forth negotiations, it's a lot like
an NFL contract or a baseball contract. You know you're
going to be in it for a number of years,
and you want to make sure that you are being paid,
you know, adequate to what everybody else is making. And
most of these agreements you want to be slightly above

(02:35:47):
the average so that you know you're going to be
stuck with us for three, four, five years, that some
of this is going to come into play. And the
flight attends are saying, look, we've helped United become a
much better airline over the last several years and it's
their turn to, in essence, make up for our past sacrifices.
So anytime you're getting into this back and forth with salary,

(02:36:08):
it's it's a difficult scenario. I loved Alaska Airlines and
how they approach this with their flight attendants. They gave
them at the time an industry leading benefit package and salary,
and they said, if there's any agreement after this that
comes out that makes this unfair, that's not the word,
but you know what I mean, we'll readjust it and

(02:36:29):
we will make it appropriate. So that was great. Other airlines,
that's not necessarily the case. But you know, if you're
an American flight attendant, you're hoping the United crews get
a real nice pay raise because then when you go
to the negotiating table, the hope is you're going to
get something comparable. So you seventy six percent of them
said no, thank you to a twenty six percent pay raise.

Speaker 2 (02:36:49):
Holy cow, that is amazing. All right, Well, as we
typically do, let's end the segment on hub delays that
folks are going to be flying today, what's going looking
like out there for them?

Speaker 6 (02:37:00):
We've had times when I said, oh, the best day
of the week to fly. This I think is the
worst day of the week to fly. We've got weather
that unfortunately not only is rolling through our area but
up towards the northeast, and it's been hammering Detroit for
most of the day, and as the day progresses, some
of this is going to impact flights towards the northeast.
But if you're heading to the airport and you're connecting

(02:37:22):
through Detroit on Delta, definitely get to the airport early
and then Boston is going to get it later in
the day, probably New York. So if you're flying to
the Northeast, just do not be late. Get to the
airport tours before departure. That way, if your itinerary is impacted,
you know they've got a chance to take care of
you if there's a change to your itinerary.

Speaker 2 (02:37:42):
Appreciate the heads up on that. Jay Ratliff, always a
distinct pleasure to have you on the program. I thoroughly
enjoy our conversations. I'll look forward to next Thursday with
another aviation segment, and I wish you and your better
half a great weekend weekend you too, my friend. Thank you.
Thanks brother. Eight fifty four to fifty five K Seedy
talks stations and what a distinct pleasure it was to
have Sarah Herringer in studio, the widow of Patrick Herringer,

(02:38:06):
who was murdered in their home in Over the Rhine
on June fourth, And again reminder, we didn't talk about it.
We were trying to steer clear of the details of
the murder itself at her request, and of course I
understand that, but sort of an exclamation point on what
a terrific guy we lost in this horrific crime. He
did die saving her life. So I felt the need

(02:38:28):
to point that out since she mentioned it to me
off air, And she's just just a terrific woman doing
doing what she can right now to bring the problems
of crime in the city of Cincinnati to everybody's attention
while she has the light to the limelight to do it.
Secretary of State Frank Lrose was some good news on
election integrity. He spent the day with a whole bunch
of Secretary's of State from around the country with Donald
Trump on election integrity and sharing the data. Yeah, it

(02:38:51):
would be nice to know if they've got a list
of you know, dead people to share it with US.
Apparently a lot of hurdles thrown the way of Secretary
of States like Frank Lrose and others from the r
Our administration. They got it all ironed out. Listen to
what he had to say on that, and of course
my conversation with Jay rathlup. It's all a fifty five
KRC dot com on the podcast page. Thank you Joe
Strecker for winding up the guests. I truly appreciate that

(02:39:13):
and all that you do to make the show go,
because with that you wouldn't enjoy that twenty six percent
pay ratio. I hope everybody knows that that is the
absolute farthest thing from the truth. I hope you continue
tomorrow Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Great segment one that
you definitely need to listen to to keep you out
of trouble. At least he's trying. So we'll do that tomorrow.

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