55KRC Thursday Show - Todd Zinser, Aaron Weiner, Jay Ratliff

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Follow five at the five k r C the talk
station Friday es Uh, he may, I quite often do not,

(00:32):
and I hope you're having a wonderful Friday. Brian Thomas
right here. Glad to be, glad to see Joshrecerory belongs
in the Executi producer booth, and glad to see the
Todd Zendsers joining the program in studio. Our own citizen Watchdog,
the Inspector General of the City of Cincinnati. Not really
his title, but that's kind of what he's acting like.
He's looking into the Shenanigans. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Got the latest episode of Citizen Watchdog podcasts. They strongly
encourage you to check out what Todd has to say.
He has definitely got an eagle eye. Uh. The well
obviously dysfunction in the city of Cincinnati. Today we'll talk
with Todd about gun violence in the city. Topic of
conversation a lot this week, beginning with Christopher Smithman and
FOP President Ken Favor earlier this week on Monday. Since

(01:16):
a pension liability, Yeah, we've got one of those. Fortunately,
we're not as bad off as Illinois. Man, what a
train wreck Illinois as If you read anything about their
pension problems. We'll alt's talk about mismanagement and a lack
of accountability from city leaders maintenance of the city's fleet.
They don't care about that. Connected communities or not, as
the case may be here, you must do connected communities

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zoning unless you're hyde parking, which case we're not going
to let you steer the direction of your own future.
In terms of zoning, We're gonna tell you we're waving
connected communities for a well connected developer to build a massive,
monstrous hotel in spite of your objections to it. Yeah,
well that'll be on the ballot anyway. Green Cincinnati Plan
also a big thing for our elected officials in the city,

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to the exclusion of other perhaps higher priorities for those
that they represent the constituents, like safe communities for example.
Get to that topic in just a minute. Aaron Weiner,
a member of the Clifton Community Council, about the street
takeover that happened in Clifton the other day. Really awful situation,

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a bunch of kids running amok. And actually there was
one of those incidents that happened just the other day
in Summit County. Five people shot ten run over during
a mass gathering at an Ohio school parking lot having
on Monday morning. It's in the Akron area. One hundred
to one hundred and fifty people, mostly teens, mingling around

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a parking lot having a party outside the Mazing Community
Learning Center, not permitted to be on the property for
what they called impromptu get together, courting police three o'clock
in the morning, going back to where are your children, Joe,
When you were fourteen, would you mom and dad let

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you out till at three o'clock in the morning. Absolutely not. Yeah,
that would have been my parents response, Why are you
out of your mind?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
What could possibly be going on? That's good? At three
o'clock in the morning. It's all captured on surveillance that
a large crowd running taking cover. His shots were fired.
Five people between the ages of fourteen and twenty shot
and taken to the hospital stayed in the obvious Akronmayor
Seamus Mallet quote, teenagers have no business being out partying

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at three am. We need parents in our community to
work with us to ensure that children are home when
they need to be. Boy, if only more people followed
that simple advice. They also said ten people got run
over or hit by cars trying to leave the party. Thankfully,
the victims suffered non life threatening injuries and maybe a

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wake up called to the parents. Jeez, Louise. Anyway, street
takeover going on here as well. Aaron will be talking
about that. Aaron's also running for since City Council, the
Charter Committee candidate he is, and the Charter Committee still around.
Great alternative to the Democrats. Jay Ratliff I heard media
aviation expert Jay Ratliffe at eight thirty got TSA making

(04:20):
a major announcement about shoes. We won't have to take
our shoes off anymore. Apparently British Airways passenger forced to
endure a seven hour delay on the ground because of
a mechanical situation. That is absolute torture. It's one of
the reasons why I really detest flying. Situations like that
lightning strike triggering a fire, suppressing foam at Spirit Airlines

(04:44):
hangar and a battery fire. A passenger had some sort
of device and enforced adulta flight to make an emergency landing.
Plus we always get an update on hub delays. Love
hearing from you. If there's something you like to talk about,
feel free to call five one three, seven, four, nine
fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three, Talk
Time five fifty on eight and t phones press conference yesterday. Yes,

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actually addressing crime here in the City of Cincinnati, City
Manager share A Long said, the red bike and the
Bird and Limes scooter device, remember we've banned They shut
down the operation of those over the July fourth weekend
because well, they were trying to use that as an
experimental level to see if taking away transportation like red

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bikes and e scooters would reduce crime in the downtown area. Well,
they said it proved to be a success and eliminating
the type of incidents people have struggled with. As the
words of City Manager share A Long, thank you to
the inquires Quinlan Bentley for reporting. Long said, the restrictions
are going to kick in again. That will be this Friday.

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I guess yeah, today's a tenth man time flyes by
will be tomorrow and twelve Saturday, eight pm until six am,
and then the city will continue to assess the restrictions
on a week by week basis. Again. They described the
first restriction as a trial effort by city leaders to

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combat a recent rising crime across Cincinnati, particularly in the
urban cores. They also created roving Task Force. Police Chief
Fiji commented about that yesterday as well. At this meeting
regarding crime, Long express concerns about these bikes and scooters
being used to commit crimes and help purpse escape from

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the police. She said, they're being used to more efficiently
commit property crimes, steal guns, and create quality of life issues.
They themselves are not the issues, meaning the bikes and
the scooters, nor are the vast majority of people who
ride them safely, but they become a useful tool for
a criminals intent on causing harm. Bikes, they say, we'll

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still be able to be rented during the daytime hours
and at night as long as you're outside of the
downtown and over the Rhine areas. If you leave the
urban core with a bike during usable hours, you can
return the bike to the dock, but you won't be
able to take one out. As far as the East
scooters are concerned, apparently they have an agreement with the city,
these companies that run them restricting where those scooters can

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be ridden, as well as when they can be rented
and how fast they go. So they're already restricted. Apparently
from being running between eleven pm and six am all
week long. So this is just a extension of that restriction.
The question whether it'll do any good or not, huh.

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And you know, it kind of answered the question I
had the other day. Police Chief Diji at this press
conference talking about, you know, the task force and everything
else they're trying to do to sort of put a
stop to the growing crime problem we have in the
in the downtown area, she said the task force recovered
twelve firearms, two of which were stolen. From June eighth

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to July fifth. There were more than two hundred and
fifty thefts from vehicles in the city between the eighth
and the fifth, or of June eighth and the fifth,
basically one month, two hundred and fifty fifth from vehicles
in the city. Thirty four firearms taken during those thefts.
And that may prove to be the answer to my
question because I asked Joe the other day, when you

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were fourteen, did you have four or five hundred dollars
laying around to go out and buy your own glock,
assuming you could buy one at that age, even though
you're not old enough to own one or buy one.
I'm sure there are places where they can find them.
They might be able to find them because they're stolen
out of vehicles. The said where the firearms come from

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to paint a broad brush socceeoeconomic reality of people who
might run around or randomly, you know, engaging in gunplay
downtown shooting in the crowds of people randomly. Don't know
who they are, don't know where they come from, don't
know how much money they make, but safe to say
probably not a lot of additional disposable income. So my

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advice would be, don't leave your firearm in your vehicle.
I think they probably have figured out where you stow them.
Maybe under the seed, maybe it's in the glove box,
maybe it's someplace else. But you know, there's only so
many places you can stash a firearm in your car,
And I figure, if they're going to break into a
car anyway, they're probably going to do a pretty thorough
job looking around for stuff that they want, like firearms.

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City manager Long said the stolen guns commonly use the
commission of crimes. Every single weekend, guns are being stolen
from cars every single weekend. Those guns are used to
commit crimes to cause harm. So let's put an end
to that. Something we can easily do. Don't leave your
firearm in your car. I know that doesn't solve the
problem for folks. I status of the law murky on

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that one. I was thinking of folks like going to dinner,
they leave their firearm in their car. They go to dinner,
they don't take it with them because they're going to
be consuming alcohol. Presumably not enough alcohol to impair you
so that you're driving under the influence of alcohol. But
you obviously can't take your firearm into the bar restaurant
when you're consuming, so you got to leave it someplace,

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perhaps locking it in the trunk. Maybe that's a better
option for you. I don't know, but it's something you
need to think about because property crime is going through
the roof and downtown Cincinnati, and I don't think taking
red bikes off the street during specific hours over the
weekend is going to stop that from happening. Five fifteen
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Speaker 1 (10:59):
Must be summer time and the days are just flying by.
A special thanks already made to listener lunch yesterday Wandering
Monsters Brewery. I really enjoyed myself. Always do my submariner
friend Cribbage Mike, I won again. That's four times in
a row. I'm on a winning streak. Couldn't believe it.
His grandson gave me good luck but great seeing everybody,

(11:19):
and a special extra special shout out to my friend Kevin.
The barbecue master. Made me some pastrami and some bacon,
and some pastrami bacon and other smoked meats. Oh my god,
it was so good. We had Pastrami's ruben sandwiches for
dinner last night. Just a little extra perk. And yes,
some days it's really really good to be me. When

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Kevin shows up with barbecue, it's a good day. God
bless you, Kevin. Anyhow, if I went three seven, four
nine two three, talk pound five fifty on eight and
t funds all. By the way, A Wandering Monsters makes
a really great IPA. It has a terrible name though,
guys over at Wandering come on, double Cheese Coney, I

(12:04):
think was the name of it. I asked the owner
the brewmasters, like, does it taste like chili? Because I
don't want I mean, there's so many weird beers out
there these days, it wouldn't shock me they have a
beer out there that tastes like a Skyline three way
or something. Nope, that's just the name of it. So
you know, if you have to do some explaining before
you drink a beer or selected based on the name,
I think maybe it might be a good time to

(12:26):
change it. But it was a double ipa and it
was just outstanding, So really good beers a dull Wandering Monster,
So cheers of them, and thanks for the great customer service.
We really enjoyed ourselves, at least I did. Anyway, Just
an out loud question, not going to run down the
road necessarily, but does anybody find the whole Epstein file
thing kind of kind of weird? Suspicious? I mean we

(12:50):
were told previously that. I guess BONDI had the stack
of information sitting on her desk and she tried to
backpedal around that. The other day the client list was
what was specifically asked of her. It's laying on my
desk waiting for me to review it, and then comes
out the other day say nothing else will be handed out.
There isn't anything to see here. It's all child born
and we're of course not going to release childborn. I

(13:10):
get that, But there were so many victims and so
many perpetrators. You know, it wasn't just Epstein having sex
with underage girls. It was all those that surrounded him.
And we've heard some of the names and some of
the details of others. Aren't those prosecutable offenses? Was there
nothing else there to be to be seen? And then

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the other component of this is and not to be
critical of Donald Trump, And he got really, like me,
think the lady doth protests too much, kind of irritated
when he was asked about this by a reporter the
other day. What are you still talking about that that
was years ago? Well, you know, it's a rather controversial
issue swirling around this guy. He rubbed shoulders with some

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of the most famous people on the earth, from Hollywood
celebrities to the moguls and big corporations. He was busted
himself for for for molesting children, and of course we
understand they continue to do it based upon the evidence
they found. He had multiple cameras in all of his buildings,
and everyone suspected that was used for blackmail purposes. But

(14:17):
I think Trump got a little over the over the
line though with his response, but being angry to having
that question asked of him. We've got so much going
on in the world. I can't believe you're focusing on that. Well,
you know, it's a question of one's priorities. Reporters don't
have to go with what the big, giant, you know,
huge story is that particular day. And I thought this

(14:37):
was I expose it's a rather prominent story for her
to come out and say, no, nothing to see here,
There is no list, that's it. It's over so and
obviously it has cost all kinds of reaction, kind of
a little more well angrier than I am about the
whole thing. I just I scratched my head and puzzle
over it more than get angry or just you know,
assume that they're lying to me. It's easy come to

(15:00):
that conclusion these days. Is it over the bones? We go,
Let's do what Jay's guy, Jay, thanks for calling this morning.
Happy Friday Eve to you of my friend.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Hey, Happy Friday, Brian.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
A nice job.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Really well done you and Joe on that the interview
you did with Dan Law with the attorney yesterday resuming
the Cleveland Brown's gift of six hundred million dollars for
taxpayers unclaimed funds.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, I wish you all the luck in the world
of that one.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Well, I think there might be a way that we
can help the case. Back in April or May, I
submitted a fraud waste and abuse hot I got under
fraud waste and abuse hotline and reported a six hundred
million dollars of taxpayer money was given to a private
business and told him it was the Cleveland Browns, and

(15:47):
they got back to me. I got a phone call
because I think they're obligated to call you back, and
they said, yeah, we talked about it at staff and
decided that we're not going to pursue this. I said, well,
who is we, what staff meeting and by what standard
did you decide that this wasn't worthy of pursuing. They
wouldn't give me any of those answers. I kept pressing,

(16:08):
and they said, if you want to pursue this. You
can hire an attorney because we are here to defend
the Ohio state government. I said, no, your job is
to protect Ohioans, Yeah, from fraud, waste, and abuse. Asked
to talk to that person's supervisor.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
They got on the line.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
They read from the same card that said that if
I wanted to pursue this, I could hire an attorney,
but they are there to defend the Ohio government. I said, wrong,
let me talk to your boss.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Took three.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Finally, the third person I talked to agreed with me.
I said, it's not your job. The Ohio Attorney General's
Office is the top law enforcement office, and your job
is to protect Ohioans from government broad waste and abuse.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yes, that's correct, I said.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
You need to do some training in your office, and
you need to explain to me why you're not going
after this. Well, the legislation hasn't passed yet. I said,
it doesn't matter if the legislation hasn't passed yet. If
six hundred million dollars a tax payer money is going
to a private business, you guys need to pursue this
or tell me why, or tell me that it's constitutional. Anyways,

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here's my recommendation. I think we help our case by
listeners light up that fraud waste and abuse hotline, so
that perhaps the attorneys at dan Law can find that
and say, look, it was right here that there was
multiple cases reported, hundreds of cases of fraud, waste and
abuse reported to the Attorney General's office, and you decided

(17:36):
that you didn't want to pursue this and strengthened the case,
and I wanted to get your opinion on it as
an attorney.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Would that or would that not help the case?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
H Honestly, I don't know that it necessarily would. Just
because the phone's light up, given a campaign to light
the phones up, it doesn't mean anything. I mean I
can call and make a complaint. That doesn't mean it's
legally justifiable or valid. Your points are well taken, but
in terms of evidence, in their case, they're making a
constitutional argument that this is a taking of private property

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for the purpose of giving it to a private individual,
which is for strict which is unconstitutional. So that has
nothing to do with I think independent calls for fraud
wasting abuse into the hot while, but I don't think
it hurts.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
And I was telling them that I didn't believe it
was constitutional, and they did not tell me. They weren't
able to come back and say no. But it's this section,
article whatever on the Ohio Constitution allows us. They never
came back, No.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
They couldn't. The Age told the wine to Vito the provision,
arguing that it was bad policy, but they didn't do
a breakdown, a legal breakdown of whether it was lawful
or unlawful. And I think the silence on that specific
legal analysis speaks volumes. I think it suggests very strongly
that the Attorney General's office believed it is unlawful, unconstitutional

(18:57):
taking a private property. So yeah, it's yeah, yeah, but
it's easy, a delicate, you know, obviously a delegate position.
I mean, he's got to go after his boss and
file a lawsuit against his boss because of the unconstitutional
nature of that six hundred million dollars. So he tried
to get into veto. It didn't happen. So either he
claims there's a conflict of interest and hands it off

(19:19):
to somebody else to do it, or the Dan Law
firm moves forward with its private action and ultimately I
think will succeed. So I said it's a summary judgment
issue because it's simply a question of law. There are
no disputed facts going on here, nothing that discovery needs
to reveal. There's the line in the budget that's where

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it says we're giving six hundred million dollars. That's where
it shows where the money's coming from the Unclaimed Property fund.
It's all right there, black and white. No facts at issue,
just a simple question of law. Is it lawful to
do that? Appreciate it? Jay, I have no problem with
people lighting the phones up like that. It's five twenty eight.
More local stories coming up of them. We got the

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stack is stupid.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'll be right back fifty five KRGV talk station.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Five point thirty two and a very happy Thursday too,
called Friday. Even if you prefer five three seven nine
fifty eight two to three talk found fight for search
party over that. Without that, we're going to go to
the local story. If we go to Hamilton County Sheriff's
Office announcement yesterday, standing there with a Wyoming police department

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investigating after a shooting in Wyoming turned deadly. According to
the Sheriff's office, police units called it the intersection at
Burns and Washington Avenues about ten till four in the
afternoon for reports of shots fired. Got there. Cruise found
a single mail victim with a gunshot wounded the left shoulder,

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taking the UC Medical Center where he died from his injuries.
Please say this is an isolated incident that multiple suspects
flood on foot from the scene. Sheriff's Office Criminal Investigation
Section leading the investigation officials withholding the name of the
victim until his family had been notified. Han't seen any

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updates on that since then. Channel five local News reporting.
Thank you Chloe Keith. Any boy with information please call
the Sheriff's tip line five one three five eight six
fifty five thirty three or five one three eight two
five fifteen hundred. Nineteen year old dead this after a

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crash involving a motorcycle and a semi happened yesterday in Sharonville.
William Lobker, nineteen years old of Milford, died of the
scene of the crash on the on ramp from I
seventy five South to inter City two to seventy five
corner of the State Highway Patrol twelve thirty in the afternoon.
Loveker on his twenty nineteen Ninja Ninja six hundred when

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osp City hit the rear end of the semi as
it merged onto the on ramp on I two seventy
five eastbound. No more on it than that. Otherwise say
that the crash remains un investigation. No word on whether
mister Loker was wearing a helmet or anything else in
that matter. But a quick opportunity for me to remind you,
if you have a ten dollars head, at least put

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it in a ten dollars bucket. A sense in driving
riding around without a helmet on, And trust me, I
know the freedom of riding without a helmet. I just
appreciate how dangerous it is. Twenty five year old driver
under arrest on charges she led a state trooper on
a quote very slow and short close quote pursuit stayed.

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Highway patrol said, come I out. Wiley of Mason booked
into the Warren County Jail four o'clock in the morning
Tuesday on charges of fleeing and eluding and obstructing official business.
Came to the attention of trooper checking speeds on I
seventy one near Kings Mills Road early Tuesday. Gordon Sergeant
Tyler Ross, spokesperson for the osp driving in her twenty

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four Nissan Ultimate Wiley clock speeding more than twenty miles
over the hosted limitdoin eighty eight and sixty five. After
the initial stop, trooper moved the traffic stop off of
the highway into the VP gas station court, to the
patrol news release. During that traffic stop, Wiley approached the
trooper instated that she needed to use the restroom and
was leaving. Trooper gave several verbal commands and warnings, telling

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her that she was not free to leave and she
would receive charges of fleeing and eluding if she left.
If she left, she disregarded the commands and fled the
scene of the traffic stop to her nearby residence. Once
that there her residence, she continued to refuse verbal commands
and also to be detained and attempted to walk away
from the trooper into her residence, she continued to be

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non compliant and was taken into custody. The pursuit spanned
about a mile west along King's Mills Road, ending in
Mason Grand Drive in Skyview Drive. In addition to being
criminally charged, also charged with speeding, says. The incident remains
under investigation. Thank e Jennifer Baker over at Fox nineteen

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Speaker 1 (25:23):
You well not balkstation Happy Friday EU five one three,
seven four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty three
talk found five fifty on eight and t phones. Uh
oh real quick here, just I was thinking, you know
about that Epstein thing? I thought Donald Trump again overreacted
when I asked her question about it. It's a Republican
administration that is not providing any additional information. Don't you

(25:44):
think that you hear from the Democrats on this that
they'd be screaming bloody murder at the top of their
heads about the Trump administration covering up uh uh information
that the public should be seeing. Oh maybe not. Let's
see what Tom's got Tom. Thanks for calling this morning.
I was a little worried about you when it in
hear from you the b of the Oh.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
Yeah that your your comment just then about the Democrat
leaders uh not making a big deal about it, is
exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, so, uh, I don't
I don't know if there's anything to keep an eye
on and get our popcorn out for. This just might
just go away and hopefully they they're probably hoping nobody
asks any more about it, But I don't know, we'll see,

(26:25):
we will. And the reason I called, uh, I don't
know if you heard about the we'll call them a
gang up in Cole Raine yesterday walking traffic and uh,
I'm not I'm not really surprised that did this didn't
make the news. Whole gang of foreigners. I actually witnessed this.
I was sitting in a restaurant and I can look out,

(26:46):
I can see Coleraine Avenue, and I can see other
parking lots, and a whole gang is walking through the
just walking through the parking lots like I owned the
freaking place walk and at one point part of the
group walked out in to Coleraine avenue and stop traffic,
and uh, it took one guy in a little green car.

(27:06):
He he just nudged forward and kept nudging and then
finally one of them moves out of the way, and uh,
then they got back off the road and they were
I mean, they're they're walking through DSE parking lots, blocking traffic,
a bunch of foreigners acting like they owned the place,
making a mess everywhere. And thank god, by the time
I got done eating, they moved moved far off away.

(27:28):
But these Canadian guinees are absolutely ridiculous. Up with them,
set up with democrats that don't have a great game.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Bro, I think he knew. I was gonna say, how
the hell did you know they were foreigners? A nice
curveball there, Tom, appreciate it. Uh, get a stacker, stupid story.
Here's shopper in South Carolina convenience or admitted to stabbing
another person in a checkout line, stabbing him in the throat.

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Sixty four year old Frank Arthur Lawson pled guilty on
Monday at one count of each of us sold a
battery of a high and aggravated nature and possession of
a weapon during the commission of a violent crime, sentenced
to seventeen years in the South Carolina Department of Corrections.
Charged stems from a June twenty twenty three incident where
Lawson was at a convenience store in Greenville, South Carolina. Lawson,

(28:25):
according to the authorities, and the unnamed victim, were in
a disagreement about who was next in line. That's when
Lawson pulled out a nipen stab the unarmed victim in
the throat. Fortunately, the victims survived the attack due to
the quick response from the Greenville EMS and medical workers
from a nearby hospital where the victim was taken to,

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and according to the Solicitor's office in an announcement, Lawton
has a criminal history there going back to the nineteen eighties.
Corner to records reviewed by authorities, January eighty nine, pled
guilty to simple common laws assault, original charge similar to
the one from twenty twenty three, since he's been where
he was locked up, so as salt and battery of
a high degree in aggravated nature. Twenty eighteen, found guilty

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is a sixteen minute tribe. I'm Heather Pasco fifty five
KARC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
It is five point fifty I fifty bou krc DE
talk station. Happy Thursday. I'm going to go to phones
five one, three, seven, nine fifty two three TAK Kevin,
Welcome to the program, Thanks for calling.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I have something that Epstein probably does have a list.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
The government probably cannot release it because it will expose
too many government officials. It's just like eyes wide shut. Yeah,
you know, it's a secret society of the rich and powerful,
and there is no way that they would be able
to release it.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, that's was my comment. Of course, you got it
when I mentioned how come the Democrats aren't screaming because
this is the Trump administration and they previously said they
had this information. Now they're saying, no, it doesn't exist
at all. That seems to be right for an attack
by the Democrats, right, Oh my god. The Trump a
minister said, it's Trump, he's in there. Let's see the documents. Nope, nothing.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
And I've been thinking this for a while, like maybe
the Nicole Kitman Tom Cruise movie was not Maybe it
wasn't fiction.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
That's possible. Oh that's hilarious, Kevin. And it allows me
to it reminds me of a real life story along
the same lines that the law firm I worked with
in Chicago, about one hundred lawyers. One of the idiots
in the law firm decided he was going to have
an affair with the niece who was an intern niece
of one of the senior partners, and so word got

(33:34):
around about that, and oddly enough, this guy was not
real good about hiding his passwords so he could get
into his voicemail. You know, four digit passwords you log in,
you get your voicemail messages, well, rather salacious exchanges between
this young intern and this attorney, back and forth, back
and forth. And as it turns out, I guess this
came to everyone's attention to the partnership. He was terminated

(33:57):
because of his stupidity to talk about Portia life choices.
But then it also got out that a lot of
lawyers were listening into these voicemail messages. And at one
point it was suggested that people who were doing that
heads were going to roll. Well that went nowhere. No
one got their position lost or was fired for tapping

(34:17):
into the voicemail Why because apparently every lawyer in the
entire firm had his past code and was listening in
to his voicemail messages. So there's only so much you
can do. You don't want to shut the entire firm
down in the name of enforcing the rules. Back to
this dec of Stuvid, we've got Italian belly dancer of

(34:39):
Egyptian descent arrested in her native country Egypt for using
seductive techniques. That's in quotes. So Helia Terrek Hassani gag
and naturalized Italian citizen born in Egypt does hold in
an Egyptian citizenship, taken into police custody at the Cairo
International Airport at the end of June, accused of corrupting

(34:59):
public morals with her provocative dancing. She dances under the
name Linda Martine. Case against her triggered by videos on
her Instagram account in which she writhes around in revealing
clothing and describes herself as quote more than you can
handle close quote. According to the investigator, she appeared in

(35:22):
quote indecent clothing, deliberately exposing sensitive areas of the body,
and blatant violation of social values close quotes. Prosecutors and
Kiro claimed that she, in their words, used seductive techniques
and provocative dances to incite vice during arrest, found with

(35:42):
what they described as a substantial amount of money. Italian
embassy in Cairo seeking her release supposed to remainage oil
for at least a couple more weeks. Reportedly moved back
to Egypt several years ago, where she built a successful career,
previously married to an Italian. It's pointed out in recent
years Egypt is clamped down on activities that they deem
morally questionable. Five belly dancers have been jailed under President

(36:07):
Abdel f ALCSI on charges similar to those against this
a gag woman. Can you imagine living in a world
where the governing authorities are the determiners and moral arbiters
of all things that you do? This is like Sharia law,
isn't it? And I thought that was Isn't that the

(36:29):
point of belly dancing? To writhe around and scantly clad
clothes and you know, be seductive. I mean, that's like
the It seems to me the very definition of belly
dancing and what regional the world did belly dancing come from?
Oh that's right, Okay, Well it is a stack is stupid?
What more can I say? Plenty to talk about in
this six o'clock hour five one, three, seven, nine fifty

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(37:33):
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to see alternatives to the Democrats. We've got a couple
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learn about what Aaron's all about in terms of what
his vision for the future is. But also since he's
a member of the Clifton Community Council, we will talk
about the street takeover incident that happened there. And of

(38:37):
course it's Thursday. I heard needy aviation expert Jay ratlif
with some fun topics TSA saying we don't have to
have our we don't have to take our shoes off anymore.
That's nice. Are there no more shoe bombers anyway? British
Area passenger forced to sit in an airplane for seven
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Jack Adveton, always brilliant. Judgemapolitano. Interesting legal subject matter with
him kind of irked me a little bit, not with
what the judge concluded, but it was a subject matter
that I really wasn't very familiar with. Kidnapping people. Uh,
Mark Dan the Dan Law Firm a lawsuit that he
and uh has filed on behalf of some people who
have an interest in the unclaimed property funds. He says

(39:43):
the six hundred million dollars in the Ohio budget is
unconstitutional because it comes from other people's money, and it
is a long standing legal principle that the government can't
take private funds or property as the case may be
and give it to other private individuals, which is exact
what's happened here. So I think Mark's got a really
good case on the merits of the law, and of

(40:06):
course it is really a legal issue, period, end of story.
Sometimes there are factual questions that exist. No, he said,
she said, kind of thing, and you got to get
to the bottom of it through discovery, so you can
then move forward with the with the case. In this
particular matter, there is nothing in dispute there. It is
is a line item in the budget six hundred million dollars.
They identify the funding source, which is private funds and

(40:28):
the unclaim unclaim fund pile of money of four point
eight billion dollars. So we know where it's coming from
and we know it's going to the Cleveland Browns project.
So there's your facts summary judgment. Here's what the law says.
Grant me the relief I'm seeking. So listen to the discussion.
I enjoyed talking with Mark about that. Americans for Prosperity

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on overriding Dewines vetos. It's all right there at fifty
five KRC dot com. Do you see the other day
Biden's doctor asserted his Fifth Amendment right to be free
of self incrimination, Doctor Kevin O'Connor. Now he may recall
the background on this, Doctor Kevin O'Connor issued a document

(41:14):
and the document is actually issued by the Biden White House.
This is four months before the debate performance that caused
Biden to drop out of the campaign. Obviously, cognitive decline
we all realized that over the years, but that was
obviously the nail on the coffin. But doctor O'Connor wrote
again four months prior to the debate, as requested by
the patient, Joe Biden. The following is the summary of

(41:36):
the current health status of President Joseph R. Biden. The
President feels well and this year's physical identified no new concern.
He continues to be fit for duty and fully executes
all of his responsibilities without any exemptions or accommodations. I
remember it's an important point to note the patient instructed
the doctor to let us know by virtue of this

(41:56):
report what his health status was. Okay, no, I understand, Doc.
You have the patient to physician patient privilege, and you're
not allowed to go out into the world and tell
the world what my health conditions are all about. But
I'm allowed to wave that, So please issue the report
to the world tell the world about it. In his report,

(42:20):
he covered himself. He said, as in previous years, I've
conducted a comprehensive review of the President Biden's medical history
performed a detailed physical examination. This physical has again included
specialty consultation with several of our presidential specialty consultants from
Walter Ee National Military Medical Center. Specialties included optometry, dentistry, orthopedics,

(42:44):
both ankle and spine, physical therapy, neurology, sleep medicine, cardiology, radiology, dermatology.
Each of these specialists have independently reviewed the chart, examined
the president, and concur with my findings and recommendations. How
about that boy, there's a big room full of doctors
on that one, wasn't there? Instead, have also solicited my
feedback from my respected colleagues, the other physicians in the

(43:06):
White House Medical Unit who see the patient every day.
Each of these doctors has reviewed my report for accuracy.
My conclusions have been further informed through discussions with several
of my fellow professors from George Washington University School of
Medicine and Health Sciences. Wow, who didn't he talk to
and get confirmation? Doesn't it seem odd? Do you think
your physician would go out into the world and solicit

(43:27):
second opinions on his conclusions or her conclusions about your
medical health? Generally speaking, after a physical an, he concluded
that President Biden is healthy, active, robust, eighty one year
old man who remains fit to successfully execute the duties
of presidency to include those as chief executive, head of State,
and commander in chief. Wow, okay, he is in great shape.

(43:49):
Do you realize that this doctor's report was three weeks
after after the special counsel of the Biden Justice Department
assessed that Biden was too forgetful to prosecute. This came
after that. Yes, we have all the elements of the
crime right here. President Biden violated the law, but it's

(44:12):
pointless for us to drag him through the legal process
because the jury would look at him and feel sorry
for him because he can't answer any damn questions because
his memories failed. Three weeks later, this report on clean
health comes out, so t UPD. Behind the door an
interview with the doctor Kevin O'Connor, closed door interview with

(44:34):
the White House Oversight Committee, who's looking into the cognitive
decline of Joe Biden and trying to figure out who
was actually the puppet master behind the strings because Biden
wasn't firing on all cylinders? Who worked the auto pen?
Did Joe Biden give specific authorization for all those executive
orders to be signed? Was he even aware of them?
That's what they're investigating doctor o'conna a critical element of that.

(44:58):
But he asserted his Fifth Amendment to multiple questions about
his time with Joe Biden, which this hour long, hours
long deposition was supposed to go a lot longer than
it did. So obviously, when he's asserting his Fifth Amendment rights,
you're not going to get anywhere, and so you ended early.

(45:22):
Here's what was said about that, James Comer. I'm going
to read the first two questions that were asked. Were
you ever told to lie about the president's health? Let
me read that again. Were you ever told to lie

(45:43):
about the president's health? Doctor? And he asserted his Fifth
Amendment right on that one. Now, as doctors later said that,
we want to emphasize that asserting the Fifth Amendment privilege
does not imply the doctor O'Connor has committed any crime.
A fact to the contrary, as our Supreme Court has
emphasized one of the Fifth Amendments basic functions to protect
innocent men who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances,

(46:06):
and they also asserted the doctor patient privilege. This committee's
indicated the doctor O'Connor and his attorney said and does
not intend to honor one of the most well known
privileges in our law, the physician patient privilege. The committee
is indicated that it will demand the doctor acc reveal,
without any limitations, confidential information regarding his medical examination, treatment,

(46:27):
and care. President Biden, that's the attorney's statement on behalf
of the doctor. Try to justify the assertion of the
Fifth Amendment. All right, But remember now Biden waived his
fifth or his attorney client as attorney or his physician
client patient. Rather get it out, Thomas waived his physician
payment patient rights to privacy when he told the doctor

(46:50):
to release the statement about his medical status. So I
would argue counter that. But more fundamentally, were you ever
told to about the president's health? That is not a
statement that relates to the president's health and simply a
question whether someone told him to lie about it? Huh.

(47:13):
So if you leave that question just floating right there,
does that justify a Fifth Amendment assertion based on the
physician client or physician patient privilege? I would say, hell no,
it doesn't. It's a simple question, did anybody tell you
to lie? Doctor? It's a yessweror no question, of course,

(47:36):
if the answer is yes, the follow up questions, well,
who told you to lie? And you might give in
more subtle nuances, For example, the second question he asserted
the fifth on did you ever believe President Biden was
unfit to execute his duty? Now that bears directly on
Biden's health, But to that, I would go back to
the point that Biden released the medical report, and it

(47:59):
seems to me that the scope of the questions because
he waived his physician patient privilege in releasing the report,
it seems to me you wouldn't be limited by the
nature of that report since it does deal with the
president's overall health. Generally speaking, what test did you perform? Doctor?
Look at all these people that you talk to about
this report. Look at you put even put them in

(48:19):
the report that you talked with, all these doctors, What
did you talk about with them? And maybe the committee
might want to well notice up a few depositions of
all these other physicians that allegedly examine Biden or at
least discussed Biden's condition with his physician. Red flags, Red Flags,
Red Flags, six seventeen fifty five krs the talk station. Bobby,

(48:44):
I see you're up on the line there. I take
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(49:05):
out of it.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Right.

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(51:01):
see what Bobby's got. Bobby, thanks for holding. Welcome to the.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Show, Happy Thursday, my brother.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Right back at you.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Hey, we can talk about the federal government, the state,
the county, and the city of Cincinnati. They all bear
false witness. And when you once you understand that, it
makes it a lot easier because they're not going to
go ahead and investigate their own people, period. They don't
want to do that.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I think you're right. I mean that what stirs the
pot of controversy. I mean, you know, let's say BONDI
was actually dead on right, that there really was nothing
there at all except some porn that Epstein downloaded. The
build up to that statement, and that release was seemingly
in the opposite direction based upon all the statements previously made,

(51:50):
based upon the individual had been previously identified as being
involved with Epstein and the young ladies that surrounded him.
They've got a lot of hard information out there which
suggests that well, since this kind of thing was going
on over years, and he was so well connected with
so many famous people. There's got to be something back there.
But no, no, nothing here, nothing to see, no list,

(52:12):
And of course that makes us think that hmm, Democrats
aren't screaming and complaining about this, and Republicans aren't screaming
and complaining about this. The only parton except for Trump,
who was complaining about the fact that he got a
question answer asked about it. I thought his reaction was
a little kind of strange and crazy, which of course
means that people are out there suggesting it. Well, Donald
Trump's in the mix on all these documents, and I

(52:34):
know people want to draw that conclusion. They can, but
we're left to make up our own conclusions because it
looks so suspicious.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
Why would the Epstein gentleman meet with the CIA director
five to six times?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
No, there's a question. Yeah, I wasn't even aware that
that had happened.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Oh yes. Also the sale that he was on in
the Holy Facility in New York, he wasn't on the bottom.
He was on the very topic. Just three tiered system.
If you check Getway Gateway Pundit, he has a complete
layout of everything where he was camera locations and everything.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
They lie.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
He wasn't on the bottom before he was on the third.
If you check Gateway Pundit, it's got a complete layouts
of everything.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Okay, Well, I don't know that that has any bearing
on the fact that they didn't check up on him.
They weren't doing the suicide checks that they were supposed
to do. The cameras were broken in the broken in
the cell block that he was on. Uh, And I
know that they properly address or at least seemed adequately
addressed the missing one minute, I guess. Bondi pointed out that, well,

(53:37):
if you look at any videotapes from any of those cameras,
it's the same thing. Every night. The tape goes on
a loop. She said, it's old equipment, and at that
point it just resets and starts over again. So that
sounds like a justifiable account for the missing one minute.
But it did remind me of the Watergate tapes. Anyhow,
we'll probably never learn anything, Bobby. I think that's what

(53:58):
comes down to left to our own swirling conspiracy conclusion
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to traffic. Here is a little slow. We also have
a stall on seventy five northbound at I two seventy five.

(58:41):
It's on the shoulder, but it is the left side,
so maybe a little slow. I'm Heather Pasco on fifty
five KRC. The talk station.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Six thirty one and fifty five PRCD talks day soon
as I watch Dog Todds insert during the seven o'clock
hour in studio. Among the topics, conversation gun violence in
the city takes over to local stories, although you can
feel free to call if you'd rather local stories, including
the meeting yesterday, city officials had a press conference about

(59:12):
city wide crime. Among the speakers since they manager Cheryl Long,
who'd announced that they are extending the red bike and
e scooter restrictions during the nighttime hours tomorrow and Saturday,
You're not gonna be able to ride your red bikes
or rent your red bikes your scooters starts at eight

(59:33):
pm least until six am. This after the well the
trial effort they did of the Independence Day weekend in
an effort to combat the recent rise in crime, taking
away transportation from some of the criminal element, although they
note that most of the people who use these bikes
and scooters don't commit crime. Well yeah, anyway, Long said,

(59:56):
there are concerns about bikes and scooters being used to
commit crimes to help perpetrators escape from police. She said yesterday,
they are being used to more effectively commit property crimes,
steal guns, and create quality of life issues. They themselves
are not the issue meeting the scooters and the bikes,
nor are the vast majority people who ride them safely,
but they become useful tool for criminals intent on causing harms.

(01:00:18):
So as far as Red bikes, you'll still be able
to rent them during the daytime hours and at night
as long as you're outside of the downtown and over
the Rhine areas. So if you venture into the urban
core with a bike during that time, you can return
the bike to a dock, but you just won't be
able to take one out. As far as East scooters, apparently,

(01:00:39):
the city's agreement with the operators of the East scooters
already allow them to restrict the time they're restricted five
or seven days a week and can't be run in
between eleven pm and six am. But this just adds
to the limitation on using them extending the hours a
little bit. I'll let you decide whether or not it works.

(01:00:59):
They're going to continued to evaluate it. I guess on
a week by week basis. Twenty five year old driver
under arrest on charges that she led to state trooper
or what was described as a very slow and short
pursuit State Highway Patrol, said Camaiel Wiley. A Mason booked
into the Warren County jail four am on Tuesday fleeing
and eluding as well as obstruction of official business charges scheduled.

(01:01:20):
I think Charity made her first court appearance anyway. Trooper
was clocking cars on I seventy one near kings Mills
Road courne at Sergeant Tyler s Ross, spokesperson for the
OSP she came zipping along eighty eight and A sixty
five in her twenty four Nissan Ultima twenty twenty miles
over the posted limit. After an initial stop, they trooper

(01:01:42):
moved the traffic stop off the highway over to a
BP gas station near the I seventy one kings Mill
Road in exchange. According to the Patrol release. During that
traffic stop, Wiley approached the trooper and stated that she
needed to use the restroom and was leaving. Trooper gave
several verbal commands of warnings, telling her that she was
not free to leave and that she would receive charges
of fleeing and eluding if she left. She disregarded those

(01:02:04):
commands fled the scene to her nearby residence. Once there,
she continued to refuse verbal commands and to be detained.
Attempt to walk away from the trooper into her residence,
and that's when she continued to be non compliant. Was
ultimately taken to custody. As far as the pursuit, the
OJ Simpson like pursuit about one mile along kings Mill

(01:02:28):
Road ending at Mason Grand Drive in Skyview Drive. In
addition to being criminally charged, she was also charged for speeding.
According to the Patrol, that incident remains under investigation. Let's
see what Mike's gott Hey, Mike, thanks for calling this morning.
Happy Thursday to you, Joe. You want to let Mike
on Mike there, you are welcome to the program.

Speaker 12 (01:02:54):
I real quick about the scooter renolds and the bike rentals.
Last I checked those all had GPS trackers and you
have to have a credit card to use it, and probably.

Speaker 7 (01:03:04):
Yep, it's not like I mean they know who he
uses them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I mean, well that is true. I guess under some circumstances.
I guess you could steal one. Somebody else rents it
and you grab it and ride away out right off
on it. Just because it's been rented by one person
doesn't mean that was the perpetrator that the police were
after in fleeing the scene. I mean, there are there
are layers of complication to it, but yeah, there is

(01:03:28):
an evidentiary trail at least to some degree. Right there.

Speaker 12 (01:03:32):
They said they're stealing guns and sound like what is
ride by somebody and grab the gun out of their hand.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I mean no, I actually that relates to another story
they talked about yesterday. Police Chiefdiji pointed out that the
number of automobile break ins has increased dramatically. She sided
like two hundred and fifty of them. So if you're
on a red bike, you're zipping by a car, you
smash the car window open, you take whatever properties in
the car you want, you ride away. So I guess
that happens from time to time. But her point was, Listen,

(01:04:00):
we had two hundred and fifty car break ins, thirty
four guns were stolen. That's what I was saying in
the earlier hour. Listen, if you got a gun in
your car, bring it indoors at night. Don't leave it
in the car, because these punks obviously know that people
store firearms in cars, and they probably do a pretty
thorough check looking at all the nooks and crannies in
places you might likely stow your firearm. So I remember

(01:04:22):
the old campaign lock your junk in your trunk. That's
an option I suppose, and I know there's other complicating
factors which make taking the firearm out of the vehicle
difficult in some circumstances. But in the final analysis, if
it's in there and you're in a neighborhood that's prone
to have break ins like that, your gun's going to
get stolen and then they're going to use it for crime,

(01:04:43):
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Speaker 9 (01:06:31):
Seventy one Right now, It's time for traffic update from
the u SEE Health Traffic Center. You see Health has
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at dot com. We do you have some areas of fog.
It's a bit hazy. Roads are dry this morning. There
is an accident slowing you on seventy five northbound. It

(01:06:52):
as our Charles Drive. Your right lane is blocked your
slope from Freeman Avenue. There's also a stall seventy five
northbound and two seven twenty five that blacks the left shoulder.
I'm Heather Pasco on fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Six forty one coming up at six forty two fifty
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shall right now. Let's see what Corey's got this morning. Corey,
welcome back to the Morning Show. Good to hear from
you today, sir, Hey.

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
Good morning Bright. Just a thought on the guns get
thrown out of cars? How about ending gun free zones.

Speaker 6 (01:07:30):
The reason people leave the.

Speaker 12 (01:07:31):
Guns in the cars anyway is because they can't take
them into where they're going, where they.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
Big work or all or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Well, I mentioned that earlier, Corey, and the complicating factor
that I came up with is, Okay, you've got your
firearm on you, and you're going getting ready to go
into one of the downtown restaurants and you're going to
be drinking. Now, you're not allowed to have a concealed
carry weapon while drinking in the state of Ohio. So
knowing you're going to be drinking, but of course not
so much that you'll be ov I when you come out,

(01:07:59):
you still can't do it. So you leave your gun
in your car while you go into the restaurant. You
come back only to find your car's been broken into
and your firearm has been stolen. So that's the one circumstance. Otherwise,
I think you're right. If a shop owner says no
gun's allowed, I'd be inclined to just keep my concealed
carry concealed and ignore that because I'd rather be able

(01:08:20):
to protect myself and my life and my family's life
by and violate that particular sign in the door. That's
not me giving you legal advice. It's just my take
on it. But it's.

Speaker 12 (01:08:33):
If you carry into a i've posted no gun zone,
your call with it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
You lose your right to carry in the state of forever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah, I listen. I will sacrifice that right to save
the life of my wife, my children, myself. If that's
the price I got to pay, and I'm still alive
or she is still alive, then I'll pay that price.

(01:09:01):
I can always argue about it. I can claim it's unconstitutional,
I can make arguments in court, get a lawyer, blah
blah blah. Button the final analysis, you know. I mean,
it was my attitude when I lived in Chicago. I
lived in oak Park, Illinois. That's where our first house was,
and it was one of the first communities in the
entire country. If I recall the history correctly, to ban
the ownership of handguns period, end of story. I owned
one when we moved there, kept it within my home,

(01:09:25):
and my argument was because it's subjected you to a
fine of like ten thousand dollars or whatever civil penalty.
I can't remember the ramifications of it, but I always said,
like I said, now, listen, if someone kicks the door
in and is there to do a commit murder, grievous
bodily harm, or anything like that that would justify the
use of deadly force under any given circumstance, then I'll

(01:09:48):
take what comes to me afterwards. I'm not going to
give up my right to defend myself because I might
suffer some consequence. I'm in the right by defending myself.
I can make that argument we were going to die
had I not engaged and used deadly force reasonable as
standards applied to that. Yes, but you violated this ordinance

(01:10:08):
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today though will be sunny for the most part, although
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eighty six for the high today, down to seventy overnight
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They say, uh decent chants of rain both weekend days
and both days in the nineties seventy one degrees. Right now,
it's time for a traffic.

Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
Update from the u SEE Health Traffic Center. You See
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see health dot com. The accident on seventy five northbound
at Azard Charles Drive has cleared. Launchforce in residual slowdowns.
Also still seeing the stall on seventy five northbound Add

(01:12:06):
two seventy five. It's on the left shoulder. I'm Heather
Pasco on fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
It is six forty nine and fifty five ERCV talk station.
If we're going to decent Friday, you've got Todd's ins
are coming up for the next hour. He's going to
be in studio talking about a whole bunch of issues
that are are dealing with in the city of Cincinnati.
Fast forward to eight oh five. Aaron Wheeler with the
Clifton Community Council also running for council as a charter right.

(01:12:35):
So Aaron Wheeler is going to be talking about the
street takeover incident, and we'll also get to learn about
his campaign and what he has in store for his
vision for the city of Cincinnati should he become elected
to city Council. Jay Ratliffe, of course eight thirty with
iHeartMedia eighty expert Jay Rattliff. I've got a whole bunch
of things to talk about with Jay, some a little
bit comical and others more serious, like learning about why

(01:12:59):
we don't have to take our shoes off anymore we
get onto an airplane was just announced the other day.
Here's part of the problem. Okay, you're convicted of a crime,
you're in lock up. You're an illegal immigrant. You have
an ICE detainer out for you. They're there to pick
you up because you violated the immigration laws. You're subject
to be deported because you're a criminal, a convicted criminal,

(01:13:22):
and the sanctuary cities do what they let them out
and do not alert ICE authorities that this guy is
going to be let out even though he's got a
detention filed against them. How many you know how many?
As I stare at an article that they just arrested
outside of a Saint Paul area, about a dozen illegal
alien sexual predators. One guy convicted a second degree sexual

(01:13:47):
ass sort of a child. One convicted second degree sexual
ass sort of a child. Convicted is soliciting a minor,
convicted the first degree sexual assault, convicted a ludelessivius act
with children under the age of fourteen, convicted the first
degree sexual abuse of a minor, third degree criminal sexual conduct,
fourth degree criminal sexual conduct. A convicted first degree criminal

(01:14:08):
sexual conduct. I'm just reading what these guys were convicted of,
all in the country, illegally, all in lock up, and
ICE had to go out and round them up. Twenty
five thousand criminal illegals back into the population thanks to
sanctuary city policies not alerting ICE when they know there's

(01:14:29):
a detainer there. The worst California, along with Illinois, Massachusetts, Connecticut,
and Virginia, also responsible for releasing thousands of criminal illegal
alien aliens back in the society, even though we could
have evicted them and kicked them out of the country
based upon their criminal status and their illegal status. And

(01:14:50):
you know, it is a well documented fact. I suppose
it's one thing to commit a property crime or to
steal something from a store, but when it comes to
molesting children, the recidivism rate is pretty damn high. I
guess it's once you go down that road. It's trying
to kick a heroin or fentanyl habit. You just don't
do it. You keep falling back off the wagon. Quit

(01:15:12):
touching children. Oh my god, I can't help myself. And
that's I mean, there's a large chunk of these folks
that fall into that category. I just mentioned the ones
from from a Minnesota Tim Waltz. Anyway, this cis dot

(01:15:36):
org report study total twenty two and eighty three criminal
illegals released into the population since last October one, twenty
over twenty five thousand released since calendar year twenty twenty three.
California responsible for when the thirteen thousand released. Illinois coming
in at number two with almost three thousand, sixteen hundred

(01:15:59):
released by Virginia, Massachusetts thirteen hundred, Connecticut eleven hundred plus.
They also focus on particular jails, apparently some worse than other.
The worst defender the Santa Clara County jail, where they
were more than three thousand criminal illegal aliens were allowed
to just walk out into the population no notice to ICE.

(01:16:21):
Borders are Tom Holme and said, we're going to double
down and triple down on sanctuary cities. Why not because
they're a blue city or a blue state, Because we
know that's where the problem is. They're releasing a public
safety threats to the streets every day, he pointed out.

(01:16:42):
And of course it's a widely shared public opinion that
most most by a pretty damn significant majority, looking at
all of the polling, most Americans, most people polled, want
these people thrown out of the country. They want them
locked up or otherwise removed. Why because they are a
bunch of criminals, I mean, duh. Meanwhile, Democrats are, you know,

(01:17:08):
pushing for federal and then in some states like Massachusetts,
pushing for laws preventing ICE agents from wearing face mask
and requiring them to show their name and their badge number.
And if you think about that, you're like, well, these
are government agents, these are people who should probably identify themselves.
But you know what, when you are dealing with a
mob of Antifa folks, all of whom have facial coverings

(01:17:31):
head to toe, you can't see who they are, doesn't
it seem illogical to prevent that from the same right
being exercised by the officers. Why because they're doxing them.
The reason they want the officers to have to expose
their face and provide their name and their badge number
is so these crazy folks out here who are hell
bent for leather to go after Ice. Look, we've had

(01:17:52):
people shooting at ICE officers. Coordinated activity he designed to
harm a slash murder ice officers just happened the other
day ten of a Morkan in concert. If you don't
think that they're if they're going to commit an action
like that outside of an ICE facility, you know, blow

(01:18:12):
up fireworks, bring them out of their their their their building,
and then mow them down with gunfire. If they're able
to identify these officers, the officers families then become at risk.
And that's been a threat threats against ICE officers and
their families up seven hundred percent according by all the
reporting out there, they're the ones in the crosshairs on this.

(01:18:35):
And I suppose it's one thing to make an argument
that you should be able to go after an ICE
officer for doing his or her job, but the idea
you're bringing family members into it. And who's pushing for
this legislation the Democrats. The Democrats like the mayors in
Chicago and Los Angeles, who are actively telling the power

(01:19:00):
population to rise up against ICE. And I suppose one
of the ways you rise up against ICE is you
engage in this awful behavior behind the scenes by doxing
them and going after them and threatening them and their
family members and actually committing acts of violence against them
and their family members, which has also happened. Six fifty

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six fifty five KRC the talk station Stick Around. We've
got Todd Zinzer's Citizen Watchdog coming in the program next
hour to talk about well shenanigans. Yeah, we'll just call
it that. I'll be right back. Big things are happening.
This justin will tell you more at the top of
the hour.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
What they're doing is terrorizing immigrant families.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
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This report.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Seven oh five here at fifty five Care CD talk station.
Happy Friday, Eve to you. Pardon me that came out
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it in time. But I am looking across the table
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Sinna Residence. Welcome back to the fifty five Care Morning
Karroose Morning Show, host of the Citizen Watchdog podcast, Get
in Touch with It, Todd Zenzer, good to have you in. Man.

Speaker 8 (01:20:33):
Thanks Brian, good to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
I'm glad it took the time to come in this studio.
It's great having you in and talking with you about
all these things that you follow. So let us start.
We were touch talking about this. Let's stick with the
topic of crime, gun violence. Generally speaking, they had a
Cheryl Long City Manager sheet Chief Fiji was there yesterday.
The mayor was there. He didn't have a whole lot

(01:20:55):
to say, though from what I gathered from the reporting,
you can fill in the details on that apparently red bikes.
So we're going to take the red bikes away from
folks tomorrow and Saturday overnight. They did that over the
fourth of July or Independence Day weekend. Apparently it had
some positive impact, or at least it suggested or they
suggested it did.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I didn't realize bikes and e scooters were really at
the core of the crime wave going on in the
city Cincinnati, But I suppose when you're trying to come
up with solutions, every little bit counts.

Speaker 8 (01:21:25):
That's right, every little bit counts. But they they've got big,
big problems.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Well, they argue that violent crime and murders or gun
crime specifically were down, at least that's what was reported.

Speaker 8 (01:21:37):
Well, it was what I took away from the news
conference was that, yeah, things are getting better, but they
have a perception problem that the public doesn't perceive that
things are getting better. So they're really battling a bad
perception rather than the bad data.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Well, you believe if you live in any of the
given neighborhoods in the city and you see it with
your own eyes and we it is widely reported that
one of the bigger problems we've got downtown are these
roving gangs of teenagers, right, I mean the you know,
it's like cockroaches in the middle of the night. They
all gather as soon as you turn the light on,
they scurry in multiple different directions. You can't get them.

Speaker 8 (01:22:18):
Yeah. Well, your friend Jim Kiefer raised a good, good
point yesterday when I was speaking with them about this
blue Ash issue where you had these hundreds of kids
up there. How do they get there? And what's the
signal how do they communicate with each other to everybody
know to go to this one look.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Well, then easy answer to that one. As we live
in an internet society now. You know the old days,
if you wanted to get a whole bunch of people together,
what did you print flyers up? You mailed things to people.
I mean there was no one stop shop for your
you know, your causes website like we've got now, hey,
we're all gonna eat in blue Ash and you know,
shoot fireworks of people just to be a nuisance. You know,

(01:22:57):
you can have a house party in like five seconds
now you put it online, house party had thrown the
black address. The next thing, you know, four hundred people
showed up.

Speaker 8 (01:23:05):
Well, the other thing that I noted in the press
conference was Cheryl Long finally did start talking about this
program that they started back in January called Act for Sincy.
And the mayor was on Cincinnati edition last week and
never said a word about Act for Sincy. And it
was launched in January as a holistic approach to reducing

(01:23:30):
gun violence, and they never said anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Well, that doesn't make any sense, is that because of marketing,
we need to have this new program because we have
a problem with gun violence, which of course confirms what
everybody out there in the real world suspects. Anyway, Well,
the marketing thing here.

Speaker 8 (01:23:49):
You know, the terrible murder of mister Herringer. Oh yeah,
and the response from his widow, she summed it up
in three words. It's optics over outcomes, right, And a
lot of the things that this city council and this
mayor are doing are really for optics. And you can

(01:24:10):
go through program after program, and they put a little
bit of money in all of these programs, and then
when somebody says, what are you doing about this, they say,
we have a program for that. And even if they
funded at like ten thousand or twenty five thousand, you know,
I was at a meeting in bond Hill about connected
communities with the Vice Mayor and Scottie Johnson, and it

(01:24:34):
was about how we can improve connected communities if that's
even possible. And somebody got up and said, well, what
about property taxes? Our property taxes are too high and
the Vice mayor said, well, we have a program for that.
They have a Well, no, they don't have a program.
Their program is to help people pay the Property Act

(01:24:54):
property taxes that they owe in back taxes their debt.
That's what they city has a program for.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
But not to address the broader problem of the property
taxes going through the root exactly, and people who have
to pay them or otherwise end up perhaps losing their property.
They're on the hook for the money they paid it.
So there's no relief for the folks with higher property
tax bills. There's only relief for folks who didn't pay
the property tax bills because they were too high.

Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Okay, so that's problem solved.

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
But optics over outcomes is it really sums up this
mayor in this city council.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
But you can't cover up the fact that week after
week after week we have all this hoorific criminal activity
that's going on. I mean, even as little as local
reporting we have, we do hear about it, we do
see it. So you can't hide behind the you can't
hide the news from people. And then there's the other component.
You talk to Ken favor of us since say FOP president,

(01:25:51):
and can will tell you that they know, like for example,
enforcing curfew. There is a curfew, Yes, but they don't
bother e dealing with it because they catch the teenager
who's violating curfew, they're not going to be dealt with
by the judicial component of the criminal justice system. The
judges will let them out. Happens all the time, so
much show that it's not even worth issuing a citation.

Speaker 8 (01:26:12):
Well, there was a question. I couldn't hear it very well.
But I think one of the reporters yesterday at the
news conference was asking about twenty twenty Auburn, the juvenile
center or detention center whatever they call it, and that
the police were being turned away when they tried to
bring people up to twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Yes, so they had a you know, they have a
capacity to show that Ken Ken said that specifically, Yeah,
they have a capacity issue there, So what do they
do about it? That's a good question. Maybe there isn't
a program for that.

Speaker 8 (01:26:43):
They need a program for.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
That, another building, another place to take.

Speaker 8 (01:26:48):
I tell you this, five million dollars they want to
spend on a day center for the homeless. That's controversial
because there are existing programs that think they could handle,
you know, the requirement or the need. But the city,
for some other reason wants to spend five million on
this building. Maybe they ought to turn the building into

(01:27:10):
a detention center.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Well, I like that idea. I mean, if there's not
room enough to deal with the folks that are violating
the law, then you need a place to put them.
I mean, I don't well, a question of prioritization.

Speaker 8 (01:27:25):
Right exactly, That's exactly right, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
And without enforcement, without the penalty component. Say this all
the time the criminal justice system, the deterrence element is
one of the key principles on it. If you do
something in violation of the law, there will be consequences.
That's a message is not only to punish the person

(01:27:49):
who is domb enough to violate the law, but it's
a message to every kid out there or everybody else
out there, this is what's going to happen to you.
And get rid of that, and it's like, well, wait
a second, nothing's going to happen to me, so why
bother obeying the law?

Speaker 8 (01:28:02):
That's right, this whole act for sincey, this holistic approach
to reducing gun violence. They had a three million dollar
budget and it went to all of these nonprofits. And
that's what this is all about, external organizations. And there's
no way to measure whether anything they're doing has any

(01:28:23):
impact on reducing gun violence. But it's they give away
all this money.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Well and they can say something like we have a
program for that and we have already addressed that and
you know, but yeah, again, this is kind of like USAID.
It's a local versus of the USA. The money goes
out into the world and you know, at least on
a federal level, tens of millions of dollars to fund
various programs around the globe. We don't know if that
work was even done. No one's following the money, No

(01:28:51):
one knows where it goes. What the salaries are being
paid within these nonprofit organizational structures, and they all get
pretty handsome salaries. Just because you're non probably doesn't mean
your CEO isn't making three hundred four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:29:05):
Yet, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
So that's what's happening locally. Then, Oh, we're a non
violence we have a holistic approach to getting kids off
the streets and getting them to play hockey at night
or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:29:14):
And but when the mayor showed up on the radio
program and started talking about all the things they're doing
to reduce gun violence, he never said a single word
about this act. For Cincy, they have a program where
they're basically paying people not to commit crimes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Yeah, maybe we can dive into a few more of
the details for that. And again, why didn't he announce
it out loud early on? If it's such a great
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Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Station seven nineteen fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Tomouth
with Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer get his podcasts and Watchdog
and uh maybe become friends of them. On fay, he's
always pointing posting things related to maybe corruption, fraud, ways
to be used inaction, outright stupidity with regard to what
the City of Cincinnati's doing dealing with its relative or

(01:32:11):
various rather challenges. We were talking about this Act for
Sincy program to are a blueprint for violence production that
says on the cover of the materials achieving change together.
This came out in January. You mentioned without any fanfare,
without any formal notice, that here were implementing this program.
But as you just got done explaining, it funds a
bunch of non governmental organization outside groups who claim to

(01:32:34):
have the solution on various levels for the problem with
violence and the system or in er in the system.
What type of if you know, if any, what type
of vetting goes on before any given NGO accepts money
from the city to achieve their purported goal. There's got

(01:32:55):
to be some presentation to someone, Someone has to add
them to the limitless list of NGOs out there with
their hand hopefully in the cookie jar. So what process
do they go through to find out whether these proposals
are going to have any impact or effect and then
get the award to the exclusion of other NGOs we
already know. There's no follow up on whether the programs

(01:33:17):
work after the money's awarded, but the lead upright, how
do you get on the list of people with their
hand in the cookie jar?

Speaker 8 (01:33:23):
Well, there's so many of these programs. I've counted so far,
over two hundred NGOs getting money or nonprofits or NGOs
getting money from the city, ranging from you know, fifteen
hundred dollars to a quarter of a million dollars or
actually I think the highest I know of is like

(01:33:43):
three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. And there's there
is a program or a process for what they call
leverage support, which is what many of these organizations they
make application for those moneies, and that's that's become an
annual thing. And during budget season they all go down
in a congo line and request money from the city

(01:34:05):
council and not all of them get it. No, That's
what's surprising is how many organizations apply for this money
they don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
So see, that's I always wanted to emphasize that because
again there's always a limitless number of people that want
some money from government. Now, the question is how do
you weed through. Let's say a thousand groups show up
and there's only you know, one hundred different one hundred
allocations that they have money for.

Speaker 8 (01:34:28):
High Who wins That's a good question. The city council.
They pick winners and losers when it comes to that,
and the city manager has an application process for at
least leverage support and probably for all these others. And
they tell they tell the organization what they're looking for,
for example, reducing gun violence, and all of a sudden,

(01:34:50):
all these NGOs that before now we're worried about climate
change or whatever, are now worried about gun violence. And
their proposals they just switch keywords in there about how
their work is going to reduce gun violence. Even the
Art Academy, for example, they showed up many at many
meetings requesting money and they've been getting funding for years

(01:35:14):
and years, but the city council is going to cut
them back. And they made the case that their work
at the Art Academy contributes to a reduction of violence.
And they believe that, and all these groups that are
working in this area think that if they do a
good job, that violence will be reduced.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Well, I suppose one could lean on the argument that, well,
if the kid's here in an art class for two hours,
then he can't be out committing crime. Air go it
reduces crime. Yes, it's some kind of logic chain like that.
I'm sorry to laugh. This is so sad and pathetic.
This really doesn't call for laughter.

Speaker 8 (01:35:57):
Yeah, the normal person, or the regular or Cincinnatian will
have trouble connecting dance lessons to reducing violence. That's just
not Most people can't connect that in their own minds.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
No, but I think that's a logical and reasonable inability. Yes,
the connection isn't there. So how could people possibly connect
it unless they fall back on the argument that they
just made well the kids in a dance lesson for
a couple hours.

Speaker 8 (01:36:28):
Yeah. So, the way I looked at it, a lot
of these programs that they're funding, it seems more like
we're trying to help the community kind of thrive or
to live despite all the violence. These types of programs
help them, you know, survive through that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
They fuel the economic engine of the city by putting
dollars out there. Two organizations that maybe don't accomplish anything.
At least the money's out there, and presumably those organizations
will spend it on something, even if it's just going
out to dinner at a restaurant.

Speaker 8 (01:37:02):
That's right, that's that's the government, that's the city government
we have.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
I think we've put hit the nail on the head,
which is exactly what Todds ends are done, so it
does all the time. I understand we also have a
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Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
It's seven twenty nine right time, was here with Todd
Censer and studio going over City of Cincinnati issues. So
we went over the gun violence and the violence and
the crime problem generally speaking, and the proposal from the city,
which basically are funding a bunch of outside, non gouvernmental
organizations with zero to very little accountability. Let us move

(01:39:56):
on over to another area that's been a real problem
for a very long time. I'm sinc they's pension problems underfunded.
Is that a reasonable word to slap on the situation?

Speaker 8 (01:40:07):
Yes, very much so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
And for how long has this been festering?

Speaker 8 (01:40:10):
Well, the pension liability was the subject of a civil complaint,
federal complaint back in twenty fifteen, and there was a
settlement that is now governing the pension liability, and they
are required by twenty forty five, so that the settlement
gives them thirty years to get the thing up to

(01:40:32):
one hundred percent. But the thing is it was it
was settled in twenty fifteen, so ten years ago, and
they look at the funding ratio, which is how much
of the liability do they need to fix by a
certain date. So they're supposed to be one hundred percent

(01:40:54):
funded by twenty forty five, right, and when this when
the agreement was as uh finalized, they were at seventy
seven percent that ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
There ten years ago, seventy seven percent funded this.

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
Year sixty eight percent.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Oh hey, going to the right direction.

Speaker 8 (01:41:13):
It's gone down every every year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
And well we'll fix it later. Is that the attitude. Yeah,
this seems like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and social welfare
safety net programs that are all scheduled to be belly
up by a certain date. Well, in Congress never does anything.

Speaker 8 (01:41:28):
It is exactly the same. So with respect to with
respect to Congress, when it gets when when it gets
to the point where they can't kick the can down
the road anymore, they just they just print the money.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Print the money, or tell you're not going to get
as much as we promise.

Speaker 8 (01:41:45):
That's right. Cincinnati can't do that exactly. So the Futures
Commission said the pension liability was the number one concern
in the city and this council, and that was two
years ago. Now that they the or was it two
years or one year the Future's Commission issued its report.

Speaker 6 (01:42:07):
They're not.

Speaker 8 (01:42:08):
They have done very little different and it's not that difficult.
So the reason that I talked about it recently on
my podcast is because at the end of the the
last meeting before the summer break that the the city
manager slipped in the annual report from the Pension from
the Pension uh outfit, and it has five recommendations in it.

(01:42:37):
Four of them are totally unacceptable, you know, reduce, reduce benefits.
One of them is the thing that the Future Commission
wants to do is they want to regionalize the waterworks
and monetize that. Take that money, put it into the
pension and make the pension attractive for the state pension
system to take it over. Well, that that's going to

(01:43:00):
do that, No, that's not going to happen. It's a
long shot at best. It requires a referendum to get
rid of the water works. So the only thing they're
left with is to put more money into the pension fund.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
That's the solution to the problem.

Speaker 8 (01:43:18):
And if you look at their recommendation, it would require
an extra I mean they're making a contribution now. It's
about I think it's up into sixty million or sixty
four million dollars a year they put into the pension
liability or the pension fund. The pension fund, they have
more people taking out than they have putting in. And
according to this recommendation from the trustees, it would take

(01:43:41):
whatever the city's putting in now put in an extra
two million dollars every year, year after year on top
of that, and they're projecting that if the city does that,
it will be one hundred percent by twenty forty five,
like those settlement requires. And why we're looking at all
these other options and all this other stuff. I don't

(01:44:03):
get that just put the money in it set.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Well, if you take it and put it into the
pension system, that means there's fewer non government organizations out
there in the world that they're gonna get funded because
they don't have enough money to go around.

Speaker 8 (01:44:13):
That is my exact concern. We're gonna keep spending money
trying to save people and they may not save the city.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
Well, and the practical and correct me if I'm wrong
on this, The practical effect of that is the worst.
The pension problem is the worst. Are bond rating.

Speaker 8 (01:44:36):
Well, yes, it has definitely have implications like.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
That, which means if they ever want to borrow money
for a big project, they're going to pay a half
a lot more money and interest on it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:44:44):
Well, they have no problem borrowing money, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
Lord Almighty, that's an easy fix to todd Well, it
really is. It's just like, okay, we must allocate primary
first and foremost. Here's the money we need to put
in the pension system to keep it alive and to
comply with the settlement agreement. We only have a window
of opportunity here and it's quickly running out, and it,
Lily is getting worse. So here's the money done, what's

(01:45:11):
left over right right, absolutely, and then we'll divide that
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and the fleet which is falling apart apparently got to
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(01:47:48):
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Talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Seven on a Thursday. Bryan timas here where Citizen Watchdog
todds In's or check out his podcast. Citizen Watchdog deals
with a lot of the issues that we're going through
this morning. City Cincinnati focused issues. We talked earlier about violence,
We talked about the pension problem. We've got a simple
problem to solve. You just need to allocate the money
up front and sufficient quantities that you'll be able to

(01:48:21):
replenish the pension pursuing to the settlement agreement from twenty
fifteen by calendar year twenty forty five. I mean, it
sounds like you have forever to do this, but it
only gets worse. Still blows my mind now, which leads
me to the question before we get to mismanagement and
lack of accounty, lack of accountability from city leaders on
a variety of other areas, including like the fleet fifty

(01:48:42):
percent of which I guess is out of service, maintenance
upkeep prepares, some of it needs to be replaced. It's
one of the reasons we had problems with snow removal,
fire trucks, all that kind of stuff. Right, So another
simple you know, yeah, gotta take care of it. Maintenance, upkeep,
and replacement is a simple function of government. It's a
known entity. Do you get the impression? And I asked

(01:49:04):
you this specifically, are they just asleep at the wheel
or are they dealing with something else that's a higher
priority for I mean from from their perspective for the
use of the city taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:49:17):
Well, the the agenda that that they carry out is
very progressive, all of these programs for you know, the
social programs, et cetera. They have a financial freedom blueprint
that I'm looking into that is just a variety of
things that they're funding. I think I I think I
counted like eleven million dollars going into their financial freedom program.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
What the hell is financial freedom program?

Speaker 8 (01:49:43):
You It's it's hard to it's hard to believe. But
they have, like I don't know, twenty different things they're
working on, uh to promote financial freedom of you know,
the various segments.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Of the population. What does that even mean?

Speaker 8 (01:49:59):
Financial freedom? For example, they have appropriated money to give
to kids for savings accounts. Right, They do things like that,
and I don't have the list with me, but it's well,
wait a minute, I do have the list with me.
I'll give you an example, Okay, all right, it's launch

(01:50:23):
a program to prevent eviction by supporting tenants with legal
services and emergency assistants. They're going to fund that at
a million dollars. That was a couple of years ago. Okay,
so those are those are the kind of things that
they do. They give it's it. It follows a very
detailed analysis of you know, how the underserved populations became

(01:50:46):
underserved and how they're going to work out of that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
All right, let me just walk through this logically if
I can. So you're out there in the world, you're
having a problem paying the red City Cincinnati will give
you money to cover the hole you're in, so you
get your rent paid? Yes, then what about next month?
Unless you change that person's circumstance to where they have

(01:51:12):
a job and can afford to make enough money to
cover rent, then the problem is never going to go away.
You're just constantly providing handouts to folks who are dealing
with that circumstance.

Speaker 8 (01:51:22):
Right, And I don't really know exactly how they administer
the program.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
But oh, like going back to the other programs, you
don't know how they administer.

Speaker 8 (01:51:30):
But they have a lot going on in that regard.
They have a lot going on with the financial freedom,
They have a lot going on with the Green Cincinnati Plan.
They have a lot going on with this alternative to
response to response.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Crisis, to rethink the police component.

Speaker 8 (01:51:50):
And that's all related to this act for since the
it And they have all of these things going on,
and you really have to wonder whether any of them
are working. And they don't have the thing that bothers
me the most that there's no oversight in the city whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Right, there's no inspector general.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:52:07):
They have an internal audit manager, and I think she's
issued some, you know, a few good reports, but I
also don't think that the city council reads the reports.
And the fleet the fleet audit, the audit of the
city's fleet is a prime example. She issued her audit
on the problems with the fleet in January of twenty four,

(01:52:29):
a year before this winter storm Blair, and had the
city council read the report or even this, I don't
even know if the city manager reads the report. Maybe
they could have taken care of some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Well, I'm a little suspect on your conclusion. It is
maybe they could have taken care of this, and any
responsible elected official would have. But going back to their
you know, the settlement of the pension programming, that is
a settlement. There is an obligation, legal obligation to fund it.

(01:53:06):
They didn't do that, and I'm sure they're all aware
of that. So priorities. I think there's a failure of
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Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
Seven fifty the fifty five KRCD talk station speaking of
crime in the GREATERSINCINNTI area. Aaron Winer. He's a member
of the Clifton Community Council, also running for council as
a charter Right about the street takeover incident that's going
to take place. After the top of the UR news,
then we'll hear from Jay Ratliff closed out in a
real positive note with our iHeartMedia aviation expert nothing positive

(01:55:59):
on our discussion. The discussion has been a wonderfully enlightening one.
Todd Zenzer in studio, he's our citizen watchdog going through
the what I would argue failure of priorities by the
decision making on counsel and the mayor went through quite
a few of these. You mentioned the sidewalk repair. Yes,
obviously we have a huge infrastructure problem in the city.

(01:56:19):
I had the railway wave. Money was supposed to generate
sufficient revenue to handle the roads and existing infrastructure. We
still have a pothole problem. I don't know they've ever
repaid Sunset had to get that in there. But sidewalk
repair now is sidewalk repair. This is something that they
allocated money for.

Speaker 8 (01:56:38):
Yes, they'd started a pilot program on sidewalk repair funded
at one hundred thousand dollars, which and again the way
it works is people calling to complain about their neighbors sidewalks, right,
and the city goes out and evaluates and they give
it a grade of good, fair, and condemned.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:57:02):
So if you're fair, you need to fix it, but
we're not going to order you to fix it. But
if it's condemned, you're ordered by the city to fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
The sidewalk is the property owner's responsibility.

Speaker 8 (01:57:14):
That's that's the way the municipal code reads right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Ya interesting, even though the property owner didn't build the
sidewalk in the first place, the city built it.

Speaker 8 (01:57:21):
That's that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Okay, But you got to pay for it yourself, that's right.

Speaker 8 (01:57:26):
And so I guess one of the members of council
got complaints or somebody gave her a good idea to
use railway money to fix the sidewalks. So that's what
she wants to do. And then the Vice mayor jumps
in and she joins the h She joins the effort,
but for only for the rising fifteen neighborhoods, So this

(01:57:48):
is going to be limited to the to seven neighborhoods
identified by the DOTE the Department of Transportation. And the
thing is that that the department already has a sidewalk
repair program and it's they they you know, they do
take care of like the gutters and the and the

(01:58:08):
curves and things like that, and the property owner takes
care of the sidewalks themselves. So it's a kind of
a joint effort. And if you go back and look
at the list of the four hundred million dollars in
deferred maintenance that the city generated during the campaign. Although
I've never seen four hundred million, I've seen two hundred
and fifty. Residential sidewalks are not on that list. So

(01:58:33):
we have another four hundred million dollars worth of infrastructure
to take care of. Why would we add to that
by taking on the responsibility responsibility that's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Well, it's the same thing as paying rent for people
who can't pay the rent, right, Yes, if I can't
pay the rent, I'm sure as hell can't afford to
pay to have my sidewalk replaced.

Speaker 8 (01:58:54):
That's right. So it's, as you mentioned, it's a matter
of priorities. But it seems to me that we should
be tackling that four hundred million dollars before we take
on additional and it would it would be about two
million dollars if we were to fix If the city
were to fix every condemned sidewalk in the city, which
they say is about seven hundred and fifty a year,

(01:59:14):
it'd be about two million dollars a year. The average
cost they say for repairing sidewalks is twenty five hundred bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
All right. Let I mean, I guess a couple of
questions on that. They also have hundreds and hundreds of
road miles that they're supposed to be repairing each and
every year. They have the money that's supposed to be
allocated for that, but they don't stay on top of it.
They keep getting further and further behind. So even if
they said, all right, here's two million dollars we're going

(01:59:43):
to allocate toward repairing the sidewalks, that doesn't mean that
they're actually going to get repaired in any given calendar year.

Speaker 8 (01:59:48):
That's right, Just like the extra money that we're going
to get for the rail sale, there's no guarantee that
they're going to have the capacity to spend it. I mean,
the city staff is only so big. They're contracting capabilities
or only so much. They can only do so much
in a period of time. And so the city council
member she wants to come in and add to their workload.

(02:00:09):
Even the city manager, she wrote a memo about all this.
Even she pointed out that, well, you know, if we
do this sidewalk repair program that these council members are
talking about we're not going to be able to do
the other part of our program, yes, or it's going
to impact our ability to do that. But the council
members don't care. They think that we have limited staff resources,

(02:00:30):
and they just pile it on.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Todd Zenzer shining a bright light on the I would
argue dysfunction since a city council and the mayor, well,
I'm not going to solve all these problems today, but
thankfully Todd has been identifying them. It seems to be
that some of them are rather easy to ident or
to fix if they prioritize properly and put aside their
pet projects behind the scenes that they seem to be
more broadly focused on. Todd, You're a blessing to our community.

(02:00:56):
I can't thank you nough for the work that you
do watching out for these things and reporting regularly on
your Facebook page and your Citizen Watchdog podcast. Folks, bookmark
that one and make sure you check out what Todd
has to say. Todd, I'll look forward to having you
back in studio soon.

Speaker 8 (02:01:09):
I'd love to be here.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
I know you're going to have another unlimited list of
things to talk about. Seven fifty five fifty five kr
CD talk station. We're in here from Aaron Winer from
the Clifton Community Council on the street takeover incident. He'll
join the program after the news, followed by Jay Ratliff.
I sure hope you can stick around. Still be called
the twelve Day War. I suppose that's what we were
nicknaming it already.

Speaker 11 (02:01:30):
Another update at the top of the hour, the use
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I heard needy aviation extort always closed the show out
on a positive note with Jay on Thursday, and I'm
pleased to welcome. Timing couldn't be better, considering we've been
talking a lot about violence in the Cincinnati and Greater Cincinnati.
Aaron Winer's joining the program. Aaron is a member of
the Clifton Community Council, but he's also running for Cincinnati
City Council as a charter right erin It's great to

(02:02:17):
have you on the program. Thanks for joining the show.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
Hey, thanks for having me. Good morning and morning Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
And I will let folks know it's a winer for Cincinnati.
W E I N E R four f O R
Cincinnati dot com. That's where you find his campaign website.
He's also on Facebook. Before we get to what you're
running on as council and what your vision, excuse me,
your vision and your priorities are for the for the city.
In your role as a Clifton Community Council member, you
had a bit of a problem on your hands. I

(02:02:45):
guess it was this past Sunday, a late night with
our calling street takeover on Ludlow Avenue. Apparently more than
eighty people crowded street, blocking traffic, intimidating people and it
got kind of and so much so that my understanding
is the there was a fire truck that was trying

(02:03:05):
to get out. They couldn't get the fire truck out
to go on a run. That's kind of scary. This
came up in your your council meeting on Monday, did
it not correct?

Speaker 13 (02:03:15):
So first of all, just for the record, I'm not
on Clifton Town meeting. I'm a member of the Clifton
Town Meeting. I'm a Clifton resident and along with but
I'm not one of the officers, but i can certainly
speak to the issue because I'm very I'm very well informed.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
Of course, you are an actively involved, concerned citizen. That
qualifies you because concern.

Speaker 13 (02:03:36):
And I'm a member and I'm a member of Clifton
Town Meeting. So so essentially let me start with some history.
So this particular business has been sort of a score
to the community for quite some time. It started in
fall of twenty three when Facebook posts have been posted

(02:03:57):
for after parties at this business of Hoogabar, so.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
Talking about the Bohemian Hookah Cafe.

Speaker 13 (02:04:03):
Correct, correct, So it started in the fall twenty three.
They were posting on the Facebook page after parties and
they first started indoor sort of non nondescript things, which
slowly turned into pouring into the outdoors and loud dancing
and disruption, which turned into selling alcohol and other things

(02:04:29):
out of the cars and just disruption. So you know,
over multiple occasions, CTM had reached out and also our
business district, we have a Business District association as well,
has engaged the police, has engaged City City Law Apartment.
They have cameras of it, they have video of it.

(02:04:52):
And each time that we've brought this to the attention,
you know, we can't prove anything. We can't we can't
identify people. So it's an ongoing thing. Which basically the
culmination of this was what happened over the fourth of
July weekend, which was one of these events, which was

(02:05:16):
probably extra escalated because it was a holiday. Eighty plus
people about three forty three thirty in the morning to
four o'clock in the morning, so July, you know, July
fifth into the sixth, and on Sunday, just the crowd
in the street.

Speaker 6 (02:05:35):
It is true.

Speaker 13 (02:05:37):
You know, we have our firehouse right there on the
on the street at the corner of Ludlow and Clifton,
and that was blocked that they couldn't get out. Police
showed up. They quickly realized that this is out of hand,
certainly I not. Tatoes were used and pepper balls were used,
and they realized that they didn't have enough people to
actually handle it. Calder backup, which was not readily imagine that.

(02:06:02):
So it escalated. There were arrests, there were guns, and
obviously could have been a lot worse. There was a
felony assault on an officer, and this could have been
a lot worse. There could have been a shooting, there
could have you know, who knows where that fire truck
was going. Where they going to someone's house that was
having an emergency. You know, we don't really know that

(02:06:24):
part of the story yet. So I mean, basically, this
is just sort of a culmination and and sort of
the pinnacle of what was what's been going on in
the neighborhood for a good part of almost two years.
And I think what really sort of surprises me is
I keep up on the news, and certainly I was
out of town actually when this was going on, but

(02:06:46):
it was shocked that this happened Sunday and I didn't
hear about this. No one heard about this un till
Tuesday when the news broke through through our business association CTM.
You know, why was this not it's brought out in
the news. I mean, this just happened in Blue ash,
which was all over the news.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Yeah, you're right, you.

Speaker 13 (02:07:05):
Know how fing this was sort of swept under the rug,
and you know, I didn't even hear about it as
an involved neighbor until Tuesday when the news broke.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
Yeah, well, we've had a real problem at least collectively
observing the reactions of Cincinna City Council and the mayor
to the lot of the violence that's going on. I mean,
this isn't the first gang of unruly people who've gathered
together in sufficient numbers to overwhelm the police. Silence seems
to be deafening for at least from the mayor's office
and from the council members. So maybe this is just
a concerted effort. It's bad for business, it's bad for marketing.

(02:07:37):
It makes the city look bad. It makes Clifton look
bad if we find out we got gangs of kids
that are showing up at three o'clock in the morning
outside of this hookah bar, partying in the street and
waving guns around, and maybe they just want to sleep
it under the rug. I'm left to speculate on that. Aaron,
But this bohemian hookah cafe, according to Channel nine, they're
open between four pm and four am every day, that

(02:08:00):
is past bar closure time. They're not a they don't
have a liquor license, but don't the bars in the
in the Clifton area and your community close at two
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 13 (02:08:10):
That's correct. That's correct. I mean I think some actually
might can close earlier, depending on the traffic that that
they received that night.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
Sure, So the Bohemian Huko Cafe not having a liquor license,
but apparently drawing the attention of a bunch of people
that want to hang out there. That's how you end
up having alcohol being sold out of cars because it's
past bar open time. But if there's an opportunity to
make a little money and people are going to continue
to want to drink, that's obviously that's going to happen,
or at least seems logical that it's happening. That's correct.

Speaker 13 (02:08:40):
It's an attractive nuisance. Realize what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
So are they going to close down? I saw that
the reporting indicated that the owner of the establishment's building
is trying to evict the Bohemian Huka Cafe as the
city helped along those lines. Have they been identified as
a nuisance business yet? Are we moving in that direction?

Speaker 13 (02:09:02):
As far as far as I know, that has not
been identified and that that's not been part of that equation. No,
I mean, I think certainly the landlord has has recourse
with their own process. But as far as we're Stardline'm concerned,

(02:09:22):
there really has not been much of an effort yet
through the city.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
All right, Well, now that it's made the news eron
and it's and you obviously have been aware of it
living in the neighborhood. You've talked about the videos that
have been shown to the police in the past and all,
we can't identify who that is, but that doesn't suggest
that it isn't happening. Look, there's the crowd of people.
I know, we can't figure out who's in that crowd,
but look what's going on all the time. It seems

(02:09:47):
to me the natural reaction will be to post they
have a broader, larger police presence right there outside of
the hookah bar to keep people from congregating and engaging
in this kind of activity.

Speaker 13 (02:09:59):
I mean, I think that would crotinly be helpful. And
certainly in the past we have you know, they've certainly gone,
but they just say they can't they can't prove it,
they can't find you know, what they're doing driven by before.
But again, I mean, I think certainly that the presence
would there's no substitute for an act of deterrence, and

(02:10:19):
that's that's having the police presence, you know, during during the.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
Situation, all right, And what is concerning about this is
that maybe the most logical and simplest solution just get
a whole bunch more officers up there to keep them
from engaging in criminal activity otherwise blocking the street to
the fire department. But as you pointed out, the police
that were there appreciated that they were overwhelmed by the numbers,

(02:10:43):
were probably afraid given the number of people there, called
for backup, which wasn't immediately available. So we run into
that problem all the time, Aaron. The police are already
working multiple overtime hours. They're short staff. I think they're
down one hundred and fifty plus. They've got more people
every day who are announcing early retirement. I talked to
the FLP president about on the program earlier this week,

(02:11:05):
and that's a frightening thing. And I know part of
your campaign plan for running for CINCINNY City Council is,
you know, expanding the number of officers and increasing the classes.
But that's that takes a while to accomplish. So we're
dealing with the real police shortage here. Is really what
this comes down to. Correct.

Speaker 13 (02:11:25):
Correct, My understanding is we're about nine hundred and change
and we should be about twelve hundred and change to
sort of meet the requirements for three of our size.
Well that's a huge gap.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
Aaron, you want to talk about your campaign, we'll bring
you back and dive on into some of the platform
you're running on. Aaron Winer, that's correct. Let's thank you.
So let's do that. So pause, let's pause, which I
mean I'm at break time. So I'll bring you back
and we'll dive on maybe a little bit more of this,
but also your platform for since any city count so
lord knows, we could use a refreshing change. And Aaron

(02:12:02):
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about contests. On this date, eight nineteen fifty five KERR
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Cincinnia City Council. You have a choice out there. You
don't have to go with the same old, same old.
Doing the same thing over and over again is the
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dot COM's his website for his campaign, or he can

(02:14:11):
find him on Facebook at Aaron with two A's Winer
for Cincinnati City Council. Aaron, what of your priorities? And
I appreciate your priorities public safety and law enforcement. Along
the lines of what we've been talking about youth violence
and crime prevention. Quite often these roving gangs include a
bunch of underage young people. How they are out in
how they get away with being out at three o'clock
in the morning, That to me seems a family issue.

(02:14:33):
But we do have a curfew. And one thing I
learned from the FOP president other's on law enforcement. They
don't even bother picking them up for truancy violations because
nothing is ever done. There's no room at the inn
in terms of locking them up overnight, and the judicial
system usually just dismisses the case outright, just no done,
We're gonna let him go. So how do we solve

(02:14:55):
that problem? Because that's a critical leg of the criminal
justice system is unishment. It acts as a deterrence to
others they know they're going to get in trouble if
they do something, and it also punishes the person who
broke the law. If you take that out, I say,
you basically destroyed the concept of law enforcement.

Speaker 13 (02:15:12):
Correct, correct? So I mean I think first of all,
it starts by by saying that unfortunately, we can't parent
everyone's child.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
And I think it does.

Speaker 13 (02:15:20):
It does, it does start it in the home, and
there's certainly there's certainly lots of nuances to that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:26):
But I do agree with you.

Speaker 13 (02:15:28):
I think we need we can't have law as if
we don't enforce them. I mean, truancy is an important
part of that, and I think that should be followed
up on. And it starts and it starts there. I mean,
if it's if you start catching things early, it prevents
things that happen later, and I think it does. It

(02:15:48):
does boil down to consequences. I think, you know, growing up,
we learned that if if if you did act, then
why could happen?

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
Absolutely and why why.

Speaker 13 (02:15:58):
Could that could be the worst case possible.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
So we learned that we just didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (02:16:05):
Or you know, if we got away with it once, great,
but it probably won't happen again.

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
No, just thinking of my day my late father and
mother or my mom is still with those But yeah,
they did not abide this kind of behavior. Period. If
they found me that I was at at three o'clock
in the morning hanging out with a gang, uh and
maybe getting perhaps of being a victim of a drive
by shooting, Trust me, there would be hell to pay

(02:16:30):
in my house.

Speaker 13 (02:16:32):
Right absolutely, and again it's not. It's not that I'm
not for I mean, I know that some of the
things that we're doing in the city or are providing
programs and so forth, and it's not that I'm against that.
I do think, you know, certain certain programs that are
doing are good. But that's really not that's a social problem.
That's not that's that's that's a social fix, that's not

(02:16:52):
a law enforcement fix. So while I m for some
of that, it's not it's not it's not the solution.
It's certainly in certainly kids do need things to do.
You know, we can't go to King's Island anymore under
a certainty, So I get it. There's you know, there's
there's things that I could have done as a kid
that maybe people can't do now. So I totally get that.
But still it does it does boil down to if

(02:17:13):
X happens, then why will happen as well? And I
do think we did need to take take this seriously
and actually have consequences. And you know, you know, the
magistrates can't just release someone back if they've gotten to trouble.
Let's let's let's have a plan on that that does
have some consequences. Does take away some freedoms for a while. Yeah,

(02:17:36):
and hopefully that curbs the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Another thing I see on your list of priorities, and
this is going to put a small lot of my
listeners faces repealing connected communities ran into this. It's as
if the city council does not care about the local
nature of the different neighborhoods that are in the city
of Cincinnati. We saw this unfold with bond Hill Hyde Park.
They first shove connected communities as a zoning concept on

(02:18:00):
all of the neighborhoods without consulting them and regardless of
whether or not they were interested in it, and then
offer waivers to connected developers like in Hyde Park to
go outside of connected communities and build whatever it is
these developers.

Speaker 13 (02:18:14):
One.

Speaker 1 (02:18:14):
Now, that's going to be at least on the ballot
this fall, and I think there are going to be
a lot of people voting in favor of that. But
you'd just like to repeal the whole connecting community's concept.

Speaker 13 (02:18:23):
Correct. Well, let me start with the genesis of my campaign,
which is very much in line with what you've just said,
is that I'm sitting here right now in my office
on Hyde Park Square and I've been My business has
been here for over twenty years, and my particular office
is part of that, at the center of the controversial development.

(02:18:46):
And that's sort of what has I think about Rerny
for cos Council for a long time. But that's sort
of what catapulted me into jumping into the race, because
all of a sudden, I became a stakeholder in this
in this this large issues, so to get to get
back to connected communities. And obviously I'm in real estate,

(02:19:07):
so I'm sitting in my real estate office. I'm for development.
I've been around for all the genres of development in Cincinnati,
from when they were building the comments of the in
the Central Business District to Gate Recorder to OTR to
Main Street to Walla Hill. I've been involved in all
of them. I'm for development right. What I'm against are

(02:19:29):
a couple things. The first thing is, you know we
have we are a unique city of hill of Hills
and the River. To have a one size fits all
brushstroke across the city does not make sense to me.
If you get in your car and you drive from
College Hill down the North Side and in the Clifton

(02:19:50):
and each neighborhood has different needs, So why would we
have a brushstroke across the whole city? Is a one
size fits all, you know. Getting getting back to Clifton,
where this where this whole incident happened, we were talking about.
You know, one of the things we didn't talk about
is there's apartment buildings all around there that are getting

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that we're involved. There's density in Clifton.

Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:20:16):
But my point is My point is is that each
neighborhood has their own needs. So to just put a
breaststroke across the entire city, to me without consideration of
the individual needs of the community, with with with bad legislation,
Which is another reason why I wanted to use my
experience as a real tour to have these discussions about

(02:20:39):
development and these touch issues and be the adult in
the in the room that's we're discussing them. Because I
believe in the city and I want to make sure
that we preserve the architecture. There's a reason why fifty
movies have been filmed in since and now you're over
the last several years, over the last many years. It's
our architecture, it's our character, you know, that's an asset we.

Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
Need to product. Aaron wer speaking my line. I appreciate
what you have to say. I really strongly encourage my
Cincinnati listeners to get over to your website and learn
more about what you stand for. Some really good priorities here, Aaron,
it's winer for Cincinnati dot com erin. You're welcome on
the show and we'll talk again, hopefully between now and
this fall in the election. I wish you all the

(02:21:17):
best of luck, sir.

Speaker 13 (02:21:19):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
My pleasure A twenty seven right now. If if if
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Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
Here is your channel nine first one one fourcassky sunny
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Rang ninety one will be the high. It's seventy three.
Right now, it's time for traffic.

Speaker 9 (02:23:04):
Update from the u SEE Health Traffic Center. You See
Health has expert traumacare focusing on prevention and treating injuries
and supporting long term recovery and rehabilitation. One more at
you seehealth dot com. Traffic is still stop and go
approaching an accident on seventy five south end at Port
Washington Way that you right, lanes are blocked. You're slow

(02:23:24):
seventy five southbound between Western Avenue and Fort Washington Way,
and we do have delays on I four seventy one
northbound Grand Avenue to I seventy one. I'm Heather Pasco
on fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
Hey thirty two to fifty five KR City Talk Station.
Love this time and day and week because of it
to have iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratlif Jonas for a
few segments to talk about aviation issues and while there
are a ton of things to talk about. As always,
welcome back my friend Jay ratl If. It's good to
have you on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:23:56):
Very pleasant. Good morning, my friend.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
Uh new term. I lard You know, I always look
for AVA news before you come on, although you do
have enough topics to fill up all the time this morning,
Ale Louse, yep, do you know who that is?

Speaker 3 (02:24:08):
You go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
It is one of those people who, as soon as
the plane lands and is taxing, jumps up out of
the seat and runs to the front of the plane
so they can be the first off even if they're
way behind. Unlike the normal way we all deboard the plane,
which is the people up front go out first and
we gradually follow suit behind them as our aisle shows up.

Speaker 3 (02:24:28):
Ale Louse, well, we've talked about we've talked about gate life,
the people that try to be bored early, so we
love giving people unofficially, this didn't come for me kind
of term. And yeah, I've seen people in the rear
of the aircraft that literally will knock people over. Yeah. Yeah,
they're trying to get thrown on the airplane.

Speaker 10 (02:24:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:24:47):
I understand sometimes if the flights late, and sometimes the
flight attendant say, look, we've got people here was a
nine minute connection. Let's try to give them a head start.
But I also recognize that we're in position to control
a lot of it. And if I've got a tight
connection in Atlanta or Dallas or Chicago, the last thing
I'm going to do is sit in row thirty one.
It's not going to happen. If I can, I'm going

(02:25:10):
to get an exit row, or we get those sharing
al fly with the Delta non refundable first class tickets.
We'll be up front. So I'm going to get as
close to that forward door as I can because there's
a ten minute lag between the time that door opens
and the last person comes off the airplane, sometimes more
than that, and on a tight connection, you need every
minute you can get. But yeah, the more people do that,

(02:25:33):
you know, shooting up the aisle, the more that people
just kind of stand up and get out of their
or getting their way, not to be mean, but simply
to say, let's just wait your turn, because you've got
other people that have tight connections as well. But for
some strange reason, Brian, they it's all about me, and
I don't care what other people think of me, And
sadly some people think I'm never going to see these

(02:25:54):
people again. So if I act like a horse's ass,
in front of them.

Speaker 1 (02:25:57):
It's no big deal, right, societal break down, let's see. Well,
at the risk of running over a little bit. I
don't know how much attention we have to dive on
into it, but I did see the announcement. I think
most of my listeners did that. The TSA has announced
that they're not going to require you to remove your shoes.
So you're probably going to get to your gate a
little bit earlier now without that headache.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
Well, your feet are going to be cleaner because you
want to walk across that dirty floor to put your
shoes back on, which is always especially in the summer
with people wearing sandals, flip flops, different kinds of things
as well, those floors can be fill see. Yes, I
was glad to see it. We've been doing it for
twenty years. But Brian, remember we did that because the
old magnetometers had a dead spot at the bottom and

(02:26:38):
the very top, so that if somebody kind of shuffled
their feet through and they had something in their shoes,
it wouldn't pick.

Speaker 1 (02:26:43):
It up like the shoe bomber guy.

Speaker 3 (02:26:46):
That's it. So the thought was, but you know, our
technology has gotten better, and they're saying, look, there's really
no reason need to do it, although they can always
pull us out and do random or secondary screening where
they may ask for our shoes to come off, and
they'll continue to do that random. But yeah, this is
going to speed things up quite a bit. And yeah,
I think it was it was the right move.

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
Fair enough, We'll bring Jay Ratler back talk about some
other topics. Got some interesting ones on the list this morning.
It's eight thirty five right now, fifty five k S
detalk station Channa on the forecast, sunny day to day,
maybe some isolated showers or storms later. Eighty six will
be the high clear ofver night, seventy Tomorrow high on
ninety with a slight chance of isolated rain in the afternoon,
very humid tomorrow, seventy one overnight and also muggy clear

(02:27:28):
skuys and Saturday, a decent chance for rain is what
they're saying. They're also saying ninety one will be the
high seventy three. Now. Traffic times.

Speaker 9 (02:27:37):
From the u SEE Health Traffic Center. You See Health
has expert traumacare focusing on prevention and treating injuries and
supporting long term recovery and rehabilitation. Learn more at you
see health at dot com. We have a new accident
on your two seventy five East ramp to seventy five South.
The left lane is blocked. You're still stopping go because
of an accident seventy five South ound at Fort Washington Way.

(02:28:00):
The two right lanes are blocked. I'm Heather Pasco on
fifty five KARC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
Have you ever been in the cockpit before?

Speaker 6 (02:28:09):
Jay?

Speaker 1 (02:28:09):
Has Jay Ray left? I heard me the aviation expert
diving through the topics. I had a special request Jay
the current status and I don't think they've released the report, Todavid,
have you heard any updates on Air India Flight one
seventy one. They just sort of took off and then
just crashed right away.

Speaker 3 (02:28:26):
We've not and normally we have a briefing by now,
but it's a little bit tardy. Apparently the report is
out there and we should be updated anytime. So still
kind of waiting to see what that preliminary report is
going to indicate, And of course some of that will
reflect some of the initial data gleaned off the two
black boxes, yeah, voice recorder and the flight data recorder,

(02:28:47):
and that's going to be very very interesting to see
what we find out from there and kind of get
an idea of the direction that the investigation could be taking.
So yeah, nothing yet, but very anxious, and I'm hoping,
obviously long before we talk again, we'll have some of
those details if you need me before Thursday.

Speaker 1 (02:29:06):
Always asks, Oh, that's wonderful, very kind of you to offer,
and that may very well happen, all right, moving forward,
and these things do take time. I appreciate that they're
not hasty to release any conclusions before they have something
to hang their hat on, or at least to reach
a reasonable conclusion. So over to British airways. One of
the reasons I hate air travel is the idea that

(02:29:26):
I'm sitting on a plane on the tarmac and it's
not moving. It drives me crazy, Jay, It's like, I'm stuck.
Why aren't we going somewhere. There's no way I could
maintain my composure without a healthy dose of some kind
of pharmaceutical in a seven hour delay under that circumstance.
What's the story on this British airway thing?

Speaker 3 (02:29:46):
First of all, do you still do you have that
same feeling when you're on the interstate going nowhere? In
the high speed lane.

Speaker 1 (02:29:50):
You're just, yeah, that usually only kicks in if I
really have to use the restroom.

Speaker 3 (02:29:57):
Well, you know, the good news is you could have
used the restroom on this British Airways flight. They were
going from London over to the UK over to Poland,
and what happened. They boarded everybody, they're getting ready to leave,
and they had a fuse in the flight deck that
controlled the air conditioning that kicked out, so they had

(02:30:17):
to call them mechanics. That's okay, it's an easy fix,
and they wanted to replace the fuse so they could
get the air conditioning system back up and running. So
they waited a bit, got up there, replaced the fuse.
It tripped again, so they're thinking, okay, now you've got
a full plane of passengers. Yeah, that could take forty

(02:30:37):
five minutes to an hour to board. So the obvious
thought is based on previous issues with this exact same component.
It's a pretty easy fix, so you would never get
everybody off the plane, fix it and then wait an
hour to get everybody back on the plane before we
could take off. The best approach is to go ahead
and keep everybody on board so that you can get

(02:30:59):
this fixed and immediately you can roll and take off.
But the problem is you have to have a point
at which you say enough is enough. So they kept
trying and trying and trying to fix this issue, and
you're right, they were on the plane for seven hours.
They finally had to call in the fire department who
came on board to treat some of the people that
were passing out, and they said, look, the fumes in

(02:31:21):
the cabin are toxic. Get everybody off this airplane now.
So the seven hour nightmare didn't end because British Airways
finally made the call. It's because the fire department got
on board and said, get everybody off of this airplane now.
As a passenger, I mean seven hours of going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
No, okay. So they're on a plane with no air
conditioning yep, this whole time.

Speaker 3 (02:31:47):
And I don't know they had no air conditioning or
it was subdued air conditioning not working at full capacity.
I don't know, but in the middle of the summer,
let's hope they had something.

Speaker 1 (02:31:58):
Yeah, I would like to think, adding you know, further
to a night already nightmarre situation, being stuck in an
air airplane on the tarmac for that long. But you
said the air quality was in there was dangerous to
the fire department. Is that the amount of carbon dioxide
that I mean was it? Was it along those lines
or was there some kind of fumes in there?

Speaker 3 (02:32:15):
It was fumes that the air end of the cabin
is a bleed off that comes out off the engines.
It's part of the components of the aircraft. Where as
you're flying, the fresh air is driven into the cabin
through the engines. So that's how they keep things cool,
recycled air. It's really it's really a super fascinating process

(02:32:37):
as it's working. The problem is if you're not flying
and you're sitting and you're idling, things change. And what
was happening you were starting to have a build up
of some of these fumes that were coming off the
canon now and that's what was being raised ever so
slightly at the time that for the for the fire
department who walk into it, boom, it hits them in
the face, versus somebody that's sitting there maybe accustomed to

(02:32:58):
what was going on.

Speaker 6 (02:33:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:33:01):
That's why here in the United States there are significant
fines from the Department of Transportation if a US carrier
or another carrier brings passengers into the US and they
are trapped on an airplane for up to three hours,
because after that point in time, what's going to happen
is they're going to be fined significantly for every passenger
that's on board that aircraft. Now some of that was born,

(02:33:23):
of course, out of the nightmare we had at Northwest
Airlines back in the late nineties when there was a
thunderstorm that should have closed the Detroit airport. They did not.
That's not Northwest, that's the airport, and you had all
these planes land and then all of a sudden, this
blizzard thing comes through and you had airplanes stuck everywhere,
and you had airplanes out there for nine ten eleven

(02:33:43):
hours on the airplane trying to make it back to
the terminal and simply too dangerous to taxi. And you know,
they just kind of got snowed in everywhere. And that's
when a little bit later they said, look, we've got
to do something about this, and they did, and they've
got some good rules in place.

Speaker 1 (02:34:00):
I guess good things can come from tragic events. Le's pause.
Bring jayback about a lightning strike and a fire suppression
system plus a battery fire. We've talked about the potential
for that well one happened. Then we'll get a final
close with hub delays. One more with Jay Ratliff. It's
eight forty five right now, fifty five k s DE
talk station. This story one more time with the Channel
nine weather forecast. Sunny skies today, a few isolated showers

(02:34:22):
and storms are possible. We'll reach eighty six for the high,
down to seventy overnight with clear skies. Ninety the high Tomorrow.
They'll be humid and I'll have a slight chance of
isolator rain in the afternoon. It'll be clear overy night
it'll be muggy as well. Seventy one for the well
and Saturday going all the way up to ninety one
and a decent chance of rain. Their predicting closing out
at seventy four. Time for final traffic chucks from.

Speaker 9 (02:34:43):
The u See Health Traffic Center. You See Health has
expert traumacare focusing on prevention, treating injuries, and supporting long
term recovery and rehabilitation. Learn more at u seehealth dot com.
It is stop and go because of a crash on
I seventy five southbound at Fort Washington Way. The you
right lanes are blocked. There's an accident on your two
seventy five East ramp to seventy five South. There the

(02:35:06):
left lane is blocked and we do have stop and
go traffic seventy five South und hobbled for Washington Way.
I'm Heather Pasco on fifty five KR see the talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:35:17):
Hey, forty nine fifty five CAIRCD talk station, finishing up
with Jay Ratliff. I heard me the aviation expert. You
hear them on pretty much all the iHeart stations. He's
busy all week to in aviation reports, and God bless
him for spending this extra time with us on the
fifty five KRC Morning Show. Got a lightning strike issue,
little fire suppression foam going off at Spirit Airlines. Hangar,

(02:35:38):
what's this one all about? Jay?

Speaker 3 (02:35:39):
Spirit can buy a break. I'm telling you if their
life depended on it. They've got a rather large and
impressive maintenance facility at Detroit. They spent it was thirty
two million dollars. They built around twenty seventeen. Is one
hundred and twenty six thousand square feet. It's where they
work on their aircraft and things, but it contains a
very aggressive fire suppression system. Well, we had a lightning

(02:36:01):
storm this week that triggered that fire suppression system. There
wasn't a fire, but it thought there was and that's
when the foam was let go and Brian, it went everywhere,
no partially burying. Five planes had to be taken out
of service for inspection. Actually started to ooze out onto
the tarmac. It looked like snow as it kind of

(02:36:23):
oozed out of the hangar. It was everywhere, and some
of this is a bit corrosive, so it's not the
kind of thing you just, you know, chive the kids
in and say go play. So what happens is you've
got this massive cleanup and then you have to inspect
the airplanes that were there. I think they took three
or four of them out of service just to make
sure that nothing adyonics wise was compromised with that particular situation.

(02:36:47):
But you know, I'm sure they test that fire suppression
system every so often. I don't think quite to this extent.
But if you get the chance, you can google the
image on Spirit Airlines of the hangar and you'll see
exactly what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:36:59):
It was everywhere, Oh and talking about a costly cleanup
in addition to the delays and everything went along with that. Jeez, Luiz,
I can only imagine, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:37:08):
Hopefully they can, yes, Spiarson trying to turn things around,
and I don't think that picture is going to make
it to their company calendar for next year. But they've
got insurance for stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:37:18):
I just gotta say that, you're right that definitely.

Speaker 3 (02:37:20):
As long as nobody got hurt, you know, we we
can look at it and kind of guk.

Speaker 1 (02:37:25):
Yeah, except for their self insured retention, which I'm sure
is rather substantial when you're talking about a big company
like that. All right, Moving over to a battery fire.
You and I have talked about this before. The the
what lithium ion battery in this case was it or
some other battery.

Speaker 5 (02:37:39):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
Blah blah blah blah blah. Here we go again. We
had a federal aviation a Federal Aviation Administration. Excuse me,
they're investigating a battery fire. It was a Delta Airlines
seven to fifty seven. It was flying from Atlanta to
Fort Lauderdale. During the course of the flight, one of
the batteries started to overheat. So what we had to
have to do is the flight attendants go from flight
attendants to firefight. They have the fire spression bags, the procedures,

(02:38:03):
they're able to quickly contain it, but as the cabin
was being filled with smoke. So you've got the flight
crew that in the meantime is declaring an emergency landing
in Fort Myers. And this is again just another of
the bazilion examples we've had around the world of these
things overheating representing a very real safety hazard to commercial aviation,

(02:38:25):
and that's one of the reasons that the Federal Aviation
Administration has banned the Samsung Galaxy seven. I think we
talked about the Phone sixteen, and Brian I suspect there's
going to be more. There's no way that we can
continue to allow these types of real risks on board
airplanes where it takes us fifteen or twenty minutes to
land that airplane in an emergency because there's no way

(02:38:47):
to put a fire out. That's one of the reasons
if one of these devices gets stuck in a seat,
you see panic on the flight right because they know
if it starts to catch on fire, they don't have
a protocol. They can't extendish something that big. That's why
the aircraft will immediately declare an emergency and get they'll
get that airplane on the ground fast because they're worried

(02:39:08):
about it starting the smolder catching on fire and their
inability to contain it and then providing a huge safety
issue on board that airplane. So do we wait for
an accident before we take a bigger step or are
we going to do something now? It's going to be
up to the FA to see what they want to do.

Speaker 1 (02:39:25):
But well, goodness, yeah, a logical and reasonable solution. And
you and I have talked a little bit about this before,
but it seems that okay, there is such a thing
as a fire suppression bag, and I know they make
these small path you know, like Faraday cage pouches that
people put their cell phones in to prevent you know,
anybody from tracking them or whatever. If you could have
a fire suppression bag and have the passengers obligated to

(02:39:46):
keep their phones in that bag or have that right
there with them, to the extent they have to get
it out and use it for any particular reason, it
would negate to a large extent the larger problems like
fumes filling up the cabin and maybe a bigger fire happening.
It just would cost money.

Speaker 3 (02:40:02):
Yep. Well, you also are going to recognize there's no
way on God's green earth that you're going to pry
those cell phones out of people's hands. They're going to
have them the entire time, and they're gonna not keep
them in any sort of the bag, and they're not
going to follow the instructions. You know, that is that's
how people are. It's like, take my kids, but you know,
let me keep my phone. That's how precious these things

(02:40:23):
are an individual. So yeah, the idea of trying to
eliminate them from every flight, it's not something we can
do practically because that's just not going to happen. But
we've got to do something because you can look at
an aircraft. There's pictures. I forget the International carrier that
had one of these battery fires that got out of control.
They were at the gate, briant burned off the entire

(02:40:45):
top of the aircraft. Now there's a video that's some
kids going through an airport with a phone in his
backpack and it catches on fire and within seconds the
entire backpack is on fire. These things burned hot, they
burn quick, and they are dangerous and it's something that
you know when you're talking about safety and aviation. It's

(02:41:06):
one of the biggest concerns we have right now. That's
why Southwest Airlines says, if you're going to charge your battery,
you have to do it where you can see it.
Don't have it charging in an overhead bin that might
catch on fire, smolder, and we don't know about it
until it's a bigger issue. You're seeing different airlines take
different positions to try to combat it to one degree
or another. But all we're doing is taking half steps

(02:41:29):
to the measure and a lot more has got to
be done. And yeah, every week you and I are
talking about this crazy all right.

Speaker 1 (02:41:35):
As we always end conclude with hub delays. How's it
looking out there for air travel?

Speaker 3 (02:41:38):
Jay, Yeah, people heading to the airport connecting in Minneapolis,
New York, Atlanta, Charlotte, those forced hubs are certainly going
to give you a delay. But I think Boston's the
clear problem child of the day. Lots of weather when
limited visibilities, and some of those flight delays are going
to be excessive through Boston. But if you went through
to the south or anywhere out west in pretty good

(02:42:00):
shape and less of course your planes being routed through
one of these cities before it reaches you. But as always,
get to the airport extra early two hours before him
at waifers any problems, the agents have an opportunity to take.

Speaker 6 (02:42:12):
Care of you.

Speaker 1 (02:42:13):
Think advanced, take care of yourself. Nobody else else out
looking for your best interest more than you are. Jay Ratliffe,
thanks for all the sound advice, sage, wisdom and interesting
conversation every week beginning at eight thirty on Thursdays. I'm
looking for to next Thursday already, my friend is always
best to health and love to you in your better half.

Speaker 3 (02:42:29):
Appreciate it, sir, Thank.

Speaker 1 (02:42:30):
You, Thank you. Eight fifty six fifty five KR City
Talk station citizen watchdog Todd Zenzer. Boy this never ending
list of question marks and concerns about what the City
of Cincinnati's leadership is doing to the residents of the
City of Cincinnati. Quite a few topics with Todd Zenzer.
Citizen watchdog Aaron Weiner. He's a member of the Clifton
community groups, and he was talking about the street takeover

(02:42:53):
that happened over Independence Day weekend on Sunday. Real problem
there and it's been an ongoing issue. He's also running
for since Atty City Council as a charter right. He
had some good He's got some good things on his website.
Will encourage you, as I did during the conversation, to
check out what he has to say. Refreshing, perhaps alternative
plus our conversation there with Jay Rattler fifty five KRC
dot com for that. Thanks as always a Joe Strekker

(02:43:15):
for the great lineup, but hope you can tune in
tomorrow for the very important segment we do every Friday
at six point thirty Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Folks
have a wonderful day, stick around Lundbeck's coming right up.

Speaker 3 (02:43:27):
President Trump made clear that a peaceful resolution was possible
if I Ran agreed to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions.

Speaker 1 (02:43:33):
Another updates at the top of the hour fifty five KRZ.

Speaker 6 (02:43:37):
He talks