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August 19, 2025 • 149 mins
Energy policy expert Brigham McCown joins Brian Thomas to talk about US Energy numbers compared the rest of the world, Inside Scoop with Editor in Chief of Breitbart News Alex Marlow about his new book "Breaking the Law," Daniel Davis Deep Dive on the Ukraine War plus Dr. Courtney Hentz of OHC talks about GammaKnife radiation treatment for brain cancer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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you could play the whole song anyway. Brian Thomas right here.
Glad to be good to see Sean McMahon coming for
Joe Strecker. You've got to have somebody coming for Joe.
It's got to be Sean and a great rundown today.
Looking forward to talking to Brigham account our energy expert. Yeah,
he directs the Initiative on American Energy Security at the
Hudson Institute, professor of Miami University, formerly a Federal Energy

(01:08):
Transportation Safety regulator, also served his country retired naval aviator.
His focus. He has a Charged Conversations podcast. He's got
a new Charged Conversation podcast he'll let us know about.
And of course we will be talking about energy policy
and that's what his forte is. So Brigham Accown returned
seven oh five in studio for a half an hour.

(01:29):
We'll get three segments with Brigham inside Scoop at breitbarton
is It's Tuesday today, Alex Marlow, editor in chief of Breitbart.
He's got a brand new book out. It's his third,
Breaking the Law, exposing the weaponization of America's legal system
against Donald Trump. Of course, Democrats tried to bankrupt Trump

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by filing civil cases against him in all these liberal districts.
Judges and juries hated Trump in those areas, just awarded
crazy penalties, accused them of and flimsy case is like
notably suing him for a loan that he completely paid
off based upon the acclaimed evaluation of the property overstated valuation.
You know, that case really irked me more than I

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think any law fair case that was waged against Trump.
Because you have two sophisticated parties. We talk about contract negotiations.
You know, one side may have a level of sophistication
or power over the other side. It might make the
negotiations a bit one sided or lopsided. When you're talking
about Donald Trump on one side and a bank who's
considering loaning money to Donald Trump on the other side

(02:32):
of the table. That bank has massive assets. That's why
he's asking the bank to loan and millions and millions
of dollars. They have lawyers, they have a real estate attorneys,
They know how to valuate property. They don't have to
take Donald Trump at his word. It's worth all here.
Let me pull a figure out of my sphincter and
throw it on the table. Oh yeah, well, we say
it's worth here. Let me pull a different figure out

(02:53):
of my sphincter and throw it on the table. They're
both capable of negotiating the bank, negotiating the deal, closed
the deal. What did Donald Trump do? He paid the
loan off. The bank said it was not out. It
did not lose anything. So just I know, I'm going
to go on a tear on that one when when
Alex Marla joins a program at eight oh five, that's

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just one illustration of the absurdity of what happened to
Donald Trump during his first administration. And then on it goes,
and of course they did a lot of damage to
the legal system, at least that's my perception looking forward
to Alex Marrow if I follow by the Daniel Davis
deep dive, Hey, we have some developments given the negotiations

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and started over the weekend between Donald Trump Vladimir Putin,
and of course yesterday with President Zelenski from Ukraine. We'll
get to that in a moment here. Daniel Davis on that.
I'm sure he may have a comment or two on
Gaza and what's going on there. You can comment to
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on at and T phones. I will not be in tomorrow.
I'm going to see a concert tonight, so I'll be
sleeping in tomorrow morning. I'm not sure who's covering. I
did ask Joe Strekker that, so maybe this morning, before
the show's over, he'll chime in and let me know.
Could be Gary, Jeff Walker, could be the best of
I just I have no way of knowing at this point,
So feel free to tune in tomorrow and find out

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for yourself.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
President Trump yesterday urging the Ukrainian President Zelenski as well
as Vladimir Putin to meet face to face. And they're
gonna do this in phases. Apparently, Zalnski's gonna meet with
Putin first, and then we're gonna have a trilatal agreement
with President Trump, Zolensky and Putin all three together so
multi phase process to see if they can't get some

(04:42):
resolution to the three and a half year long war.
Lenzie liked the idea of a three way summit, but
after speaking with Putin and Trump sent on a social
media post that's Lunsky and Putin again would have to
hold one on one talks first. Some are suggesting this
draws out the process, thereby allowing Russian forces to pursue
on the battlefield while these negotiations are going. Now, as

(05:04):
I contemplate that, you got to kind of wonder maybe Plunska,
Putin's got something up his sleeve. He's going to go
through these protracted negotiations, pay lip service to the idea
of negotiating while he takes over more and more of
the country. Whether or not that holds true or not,
I'm just guessing like everybody else's, but it's certainly a possibility.
Trump Hill talks with does Zelensky, followed by broader meeting

(05:26):
with the European leaders. They joined with Zelnski hoping to
devise a common position to end the war. Okay, ask
yourself out loud, what can the group of them do
when they're on one side, Putin's on the other Imputin's
holding all the cards. At least he seems to be,
of course, everyone knowing. It's unclear what the White House
might suggest to bridge the sharp differences between Moscow and Kiev. Yeah,

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and my concern the idea that we're going to providing
security in the aftermath of what ever agreement ultimately is negotiated,
to the extent one is negotiated. Now, Britain and European
powers have proposed what they call a reassurance force that
would deploy the Ukraine if a peace deals reach in

(06:13):
order to deter Putin from attacking again. Now, Trump has
previously stated, will We're not going to put US troops
in Ukraine to guarantee any peace agreement? Now he may
be wavering on that position. Didn't say it out loud.
He did not say no US troops. He suggested maybe

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we would play a coordination role. Go ahead, you figure
out what the hell that's supposed to mean. Now, the
security assurances apparently have four components. I'll give credit to
the Wall Street jenneral. For breakdown the four military presence,
air defenses, armaments, and monitoring a secession of hostilities. European
officials identified those which suggests US might be able to

(06:55):
provide indirect military support to the European peacekeepers, who may
very well have boots on the ground out in Ukraine
without US having to put our own forces on the ground.
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
There may be some territory conceder to Russia, of course,
the Dunats region, which seventy six percent of which is
under Moscow's control, and Russia once Zelonsky doesn't he expressed,
he didn't reject the landswaps out of hand during the
discussions with Trump, apparently, but he claimed, based on the
Ukraine's constitutional prohibitions against surrendering territory, that may not be possible.

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Although I scratch my head over that. Look, you're in
a war, you've lost territory, you're getting defeated. Can you
hold your constitution up and wave it around and say
I'm sorry, even though we're losing the war, or maybe
even lost the war in a different scenario, our constitution
prevents us from surrendering territory to you, the victor of
the battle. So I really kind of wonder what the

(07:53):
hell that's supposed to mean. Zlonsky City might consider what
he called proportional swaps. Don't know what that means, honestly,
Trump suggested, with Zelenski right there next to him, this
gentleman wants to end, and Vladimir Putin wants it to end.
We're going to get it ended. Maybe now this one semantics.

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You know, when we get into semantical discussions, it seems
kind of comical. Cease fire. Trump asked the leaders during
the closed door deliberations to stop using the term cease
fire now kind of going to the Wall Street General report.
They agreed to not use that and instead talk about
truce or stop the killing. Okay, do you've perceive a

(08:47):
difference between the truce, stop the killing and ceasefire? I mean,
are we not arguing semantics on that anyway? Trump asked
Selensky for a fifty billion dollar stake in Ukrainian drone
industry that would ensure some of the gains for the US.
In other words, we might have some or from some
financial incentive or actually some profit incentive coming back to
maybe take and curb some of the money that we
have spent on Ukraine's security and Ukraine's a military and

(09:11):
providing them with all kinds of weapons billions and billions
of dollars, which started under the Biden administration. So now
Trump has said first for the first time, that we
the United States, will participate in providing security guarantees the
Ukraine as part of the piece of greement with Russia.
One report apparently asked Trump whether he'd rule out US
troops as part of the security guarantee to deter further

(09:34):
well intrusions by Putteuton. Trump said, quote, there's going to
be a lot of help. They are first line of
defense because they're there, they're Europe. But we're going to
help them out. Also, we'll be involved, no specifics on
what that means, and noted a conspicuous decline to exclude

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the concept of US military presence on the soil there.
Trump said he isn't looking for a piece accord that
only lasts a couple of years. He won something that lasts,
which means that it means a deal that offers a
credible deterrent for Putin not to restart the war if
he has a chance to rearm. Again, going back to

(10:16):
the Journal's comments in an op ed piece, for such
a security promise to be credible, the US will have
to be involved in a more than a token way
that would at minimum include intelligence sharing, perhaps more compliments
of aircraft deployed to the region, and assistance with re
arming Ukraine and building up keys military. Somebody wrote a

(10:38):
few dollars signs after that statement. Yeah, you know, and
I'll go back to the to this sort of thing
that I struggle with. How is it that we are
expected to pay for all this? We didn't invade Ukraine.
Ukraine doesn't part of a security agreement we've got, We
don't have a defense treaty with him, not part of
NATA and not part of the European Union. Russia invaded
them over territorial concerns, and you know they've got all

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these Russian identifying people living like, for example, that Dnask region. Listen,
I'm not justifying Putin's invasion of Ukraine, but how is
it that we are the ones that end up funding everything.
I haven't never seen a broken down analysis of what
this means to us from a security standpoint. Does Ukraine's
security and whether it's controlled by Vladimir Putin or ze

(11:22):
Lunski or anybody else for that matter, does that impact us?
I know it frightens our NATO allies because it means
Putin is that much closer. But you know, we live
in a journal, a world of hypersonic rockets and drones,
and you know, several one hundred miles or five hundred
mile difference in distance between where Putin's border is a

(11:44):
Russia's border and where the NATO countries are our European
Union is. Does it really matter in this day and
age that maybe I'm no military strategies. That's why we
get Daniel Davis and he'll probably comment on this, but
we end up getting and being responsible. Not only were responsible,
apparently designated ourselves as or the globe designates the United
States as the mediator between Putin and Ukraine and the

(12:08):
European Union. That's us, We're drawn into it. Just kind
of wonder where the American taxpayer dollar is in all
of this. I want the war to end. I think
Trump's got some noble goals in trying to stop the
slaughter of humanity, and I think he appreciates the practical
realities of Vladimir Putin's advantage and the negotiations, But beyond that,

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I honestly don't think we should be paying for it.
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On a Tuesday, I mentioned Brigha McGowan at seven oh
five h I mentioned Inside Scoop with Alex Marlow, editor
in chief and his new book Breaking the Law. I
mentioned Dannie Davis Deep Diver. Failed to mention the tail
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Speaker 2 (13:29):
So the.

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Highly competent doctor Courtney Heinz or Hens. Rather meantime over
the phones, Jay welcome back to the morning show, my friend.
Good to hear from me this morning.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Hey, good morning, Brian. I just want to build on
your comments and one hundred percent agree that we can't
afford to be over in Ukraine right now, and Trump's
got not enough time left on the clock to do
what he needs to get done back here. And I
just took a look to say, what has been the
cost of war for the US taxpayer for the past

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thirty years?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
And I found, God, since.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Two thousand and one, it is eight trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, that's just how you crunch your numbers. That doesn't
surprise me at all channel to where you cut the
numbers from.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
But no, I just I just's I did a search.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
On the internet and the pups opt up pops some
think bank website that kind of lays it all out,
all the different wars plus the cost of the veterans.
So I can't vouch for it, but you know, I
think that's let's cut it in half.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And say four trillion.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
We'll put a range on it, say four to.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Eight trillion dollars.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Whenever our national debt is going up a trillion dollars
a month. I don't think that that ought to be
where Trump's focus is.

Speaker 8 (14:46):
Because I also think.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
That we have to keep consider there is high likelihood
we're going to lose control of the House in the midterms,
just based on what history says is that whatever parties
in power usually loses that. So I don't like that reality,
but statistics typically don't lie. It'll be statistically significant if.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
We hang on to it.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, I'm a short time that we have.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I want to be a little more optimistic on that.
I agree with you completely that the party that is
not occupying the White House typically gains in the midterms,
although I haven't in my life honestly, and I might
have to reflect on this point. I'm going to make
this is rather bold statement. I've never seen the Democrats
in such disarray and not having a message to counter

(15:33):
the Republican's message, an adequate one, one that's appealing. I
mean they've I mean I just saw that the Democrats
have got eighteen million dollars, the DNC has eighteen million dollars.
The Republicans is eighty million dollars. They can't get anyone
to donate to the Democratic Party, all the major donors.
I think that the Democrat party has run astray. They

(15:54):
don't like the management. They're upset with it. And what
message are they going to run on? You know? I
mean they can scream, you know, but the big beautiful
bill and the fact that rural hospitals are going to close,
and at least try to, you know, overblow that reality.
But the American taxpayer, the middle class ended up gaining
like almost three thousand dollars annually in tax savings. That's
a benefit to everybody in that middle class, Democrats, Republicans,

(16:16):
and anybody else. So that's something the Republicans I think
can actually run on.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Oh, I think they can. But remember Joe Biden got
more votes than any other president in history. We really
haven't done enough with voter integrity either. It seems like
we do half measures, and he's starting to And that's
my point. There are some big issues that we need
him focused on. But the short time that he's going

(16:41):
to be in power, with the power that he has
with the House and the Senate, and whenever you've got
two crappy countries like Russia and Ukraine beating the hell
out of each other, I don't know that that ought
to be our priority of where we're spending our time, money,
and effort because there is only so much Trump's only
going to get so much done. Our federal government only
has so much money to spend. And I really don't

(17:04):
think this hits the top one hundred of what the
American people want or need out of the federal government
right now, and certainly not what I don't think what
conservatives would have. It's not in the top five of
what was him focus on.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
If I was his.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Boss, I'd say, get your ass home. We have too
many things going on for you to be focused over there.
We can't fix everything, and right now it's cost US
eight trillion dollars. So here we go again, can we
you know, back to root cause, why do we have
such a national debt? Well, these damn wars that keep
going on, and we're going to be the world's policeman.

(17:37):
Let the u ND clean it up. Let let's let
the let the u N or the or the or
or your EU, let them clean it up. We've got
other things to focus on. And whatever you do, don't
vote Democrats.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
That's a little bit of Thomas thunder there.

Speaker 10 (17:52):
Ja.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Well, I'm glad you least the id eye with me
on the realities of the situation. Yeah, I don't want
to pay for it. I don't have a problem with
Trump being a mediator. If he's in the best position
to negotiate between those two, fine, just let's wash our
hands of the whole thing after he's done with his mediation.
You got a peace agreement. Fine, you guys work it out.
European Union's right there. Putin's at their back door. They
want to put troops on the ground in negotiator to

(18:14):
to ensure some long term safety and security for Ukraine. Great,
you're the ones who have maybe and I think it's
a bit, you know, overblown when he stated maybe have
an existential threat from Russia. It's your backyard, not ours.
Not that we want to wash our hands completely the
whole thing, but I don't want our troops there. I
don't want to have our military support propping this whole

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you know, security agreement. Up. We're not the only fish
in the serve fish in the sea.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
Out of here.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
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Monday seven to twenty every Monday with the former vice
mayor on his way to become a councilman again. Real
quick here before I get to Tomas online. I was
thinking about the war and since we have Brigham Account,
our energy policy expert, coming up at seven five carbon emissions,
I thought, you know what, I wonder where the carbon
emissions are from the Ukraine war lo And behold February

(19:23):
earth dot org consider the source missions from Ukraine reached
a total of two hundred and thirty metric tons of
CO two since the invasion in twenty twenty two. This
is a third anniversary back in February, the largest source
of carbon emissions in the country, according to a new report,
two hundred and thirty metric tons of carbon dioxide. Now,
I don't believe carbon dioxide is a problem, but bomb's

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blowing up. Have you ever heard anybody complain about it?
If European unions all about zero carbon. We're gonna get
the zero carbon and yet they perpetuate the war. Hey,
it's just I'm just throwing it out there. Where are
the green globalist? They're global warming folks in connection with
waging of war. Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Tuesday,
my friend.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, good morning.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
All of the all this hand ring and and all
these people getting upset about these certain things.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
It's all situational. Can it? Can it be.

Speaker 9 (20:16):
Used to make a Republican look bad or especially Trump?

Speaker 8 (20:20):
Get it?

Speaker 9 (20:21):
So they're full of crap. So we all know that
this this environmental thing, it's just just a it's just
a ploy something else for them to use the screen
bloody murder, and and really they're they're just making a
bunch of noise.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
It's actually more pollution. Is noise pollution.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
All these uh, all these environmentalist people, that's all it is.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
So I agree with you about your your.

Speaker 9 (20:45):
Take on the on Trump's and the United States involvement
in this Ukraine Russia thing. Uh, if we if we
think we can get in there and get the killing,
the stop, get the get the you know, the war
itself to stop.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Great?

Speaker 9 (21:00):
All right, you two taken from here it's over. You
guys aren't killing each other anymore.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
Work out whatever you gotta work out.

Speaker 9 (21:07):
Uh. And then yeah, like you said, wash your hands
of it. I I wholeheartedly agree and and I and
I honestly believe that that Trump's the kind of kind
of guy that that's that's probably what he's trying to do.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Yeah, I really don't.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
I really don't think he wants to be involved in
this and stick around. He wants to get something rolling
and set in play. So it looks like, at least
from the onset, that it's more more of a lasting
thing and not just some you know, sees fire. I
think the reason he doesn't like the words he's fire
and seasfire is always very temporary.

Speaker 8 (21:38):
Uh, it hardly ever lasts.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
So anyway, whatever, Tamanda, Tamada. Uh, you had a caller
yesterday by asking about the uh I think his name
was Tom as well, asking about the property taxes, and
and you brought up how the wine kick basically kicked
the can down the road. We could already be dealing
with it, and he didn't. Well, if the line had

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signed it, that would have stopped the flow of money sooner.

Speaker 8 (22:06):
It's gotta be about.

Speaker 9 (22:08):
How much money is coming into Columbus and where it's
going from there, and you know, can he give this
money to you know, whoever, whatever organization or group or
whatever that he's he's funneling the money to that that
they can't be any other explanation than that. It's it's
all about the money, where the money's going, how much
it's going to And that's I.

Speaker 8 (22:30):
Mean, you're really dealing with.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
That with any politician, but especially when you're dealing with
these Ryan as a Democrats. So as Jay says, don't
vote Democrat, have a great date, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Take care Tom. The catchphrase let us see here at
least one local story in developments from the riot, I
don't see here. Man charge connects with the viral downtown
beat down. Still in jail, Lebon two undred ninety thousand
dollars bond. His attorney claims the guy has mental illness,
there was no criminal intent. Year old Dominique Kittle facing

(23:02):
Flonius Assaut and aggravator riot charges stemming from the brawl.
His attorney Joshua Evans, if you've got open eyes, it's
on national news, that's everywhere. So my thought process is
Judges don't want to look soft on crime. Well, wouldn't
it be nice if judges didn't want to look soft
on crime? See, that would be a welcome relief here
in the Hamilton County. Anyway, he said speaking with WCPOS.

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Suffers from paranoid schizophrenia, is his claim, anyway, making his
current detention particularly harmful. Quote, the situation is the worst
possible thing that could happen to someone with his mental
health diagnosis. They discovered that Kittle is locally known as Gooney.

(23:46):
They claim me as strong community ties. According to was attorney, anyway,
I've known mister Kittle since a youth, and I've not
known him to be violent towards anybody. Well, I'll tell
you what. Take a look at the video, which apparently
he hasn't. His defense attorney claims that racial slurs may
may may not have triggered the confrontation, claiming Kittle was
frightened during the incident. Didn't appear that way, prosecutors said NEP,

(24:13):
referring back to Kittle's previous criminal record of twenty eighteen
misdemeanor assault, twenty twelve count of aggravator robbery excuse straight
robbery in front of a judge, which he did two years.
Court document showed two other cases involving Kittle were dismissed
because doctors quote found the defendant incompetent to stand trial.
Close quote well there's an indication once in twenty ten

(24:35):
and more recently in twenty twenty one. Obviously a recidivous criminal.
Maybe the man needs to be committed to a mental institution.
We don't have those anymore, thank you to the Kennedy administration,
and maybe taking a cue from one flow over the
Cuckoo's nest. Evans also believes the attorney believes the bonds
were set too high and believes that the defendants have

(24:56):
all been overcharged, claiming, I think everybody should be charged,
or referring to the like he said the gentleman who's smacked.
Everybody saw that slap on camera. I think he should
be charged. Prosecutors, however, say they're looking at the evidence.
Prosecutor said, quote I have reviewed all of the evidence,
which he the lawyer, has not done. I can again
tell the public this case says zero to do with race.

(25:17):
It is zero to do with politics. That's when the
attorney acknowledge, you're right, I haven't seen all the evidence.
The State of Ohio has a full video, so maybe
I'll at some point see that video and my opinion
will change close quote well, at least the acknowledge that's
open for changing his mind once he looks at the evidence.

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Speaker 2 (26:01):
Hey, Good morning, brother Brian.

Speaker 10 (26:04):
I'm doing some personal research and I want to set
this up in a certain way and you can give
me your opinion on it.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
And I'm speaking of the Civil Rights Act and out
of that, you know, we came with DEI firma action,
quotas set aside, and settlers, etcetera. Let's say a generation
is thirty years long. In the sixties, the grandfather I

(26:32):
used that as example, they thought the government was the
overreach arm of the government to put some of these
programs into place. They didn't like it. Okay, when they
son was born thirty years later, what did they teach
them about those programs I just mentioned Now they wasn't

(26:54):
involved with it, but they was being taught by their parents.
And then another thirty year years ago, we sixty years
into this, they had to teach day Signs something. So
what did they teach day Signs about the ad Firm
and Action Set Aside programs? And I hope I'd set
it up enough to give me your opinion on this.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I'm really slightly confused, James. I don't know that I
necessarily blame you for it. Maybe it's just me. I'm
not quite grasping where you're coming from. Civil Rights Act
sixty four outlaw discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex,
or national origin, which means that it suggests to me,
like the Supreme Court has said, you can't do a
race based hiring or race based allocations. You can't make

(27:38):
it a statistical mandate because that would be well, discrimination
based on race sort of reverse. I mean, I I
mean the idea was supposed to be some you know,
you know, content of character, not color of skin, sort
of reality and society. Now, you don't just pass the
Civil Rights Act in nineteen sixty four and immediately change
the hearts and minds of all the people out in
the world. Of course, we had, you know, racial disputes

(28:02):
and riots and everything else that came in the aftermath
of that. We had a lot of resistance in a
lot of Southern states the old concept of the nineteen
sixty four Civil Rights Act. So a lot of education
and a lot of time has to pass before you
get rid of that racism that a lot of people had.
Now it seems to me, James, that it's flipped over
to justify the fact that we had racism white against black.

(28:25):
It's flipped over now where racism can be justified black
against white, it's okay to hate whitey. In other words,
some people suggest that's what happened in downtown Cincinnati several
weeks ago. I mean, two wrongs don't make a right
from my perspective. So I thought we had made massive,
massive advances in racial relations, which only seemed to have

(28:45):
deteriorated since the George Floyd Black Lives Matter movement kicked
in it almost became a justification for reverse discrimination, which
I think is a bad thing. I mean, we've moved
backward after all that progress. So yeah, generational changes. You
teach your children not to hate someone just because of
the color of their skin. That's a wonderful advancement which

(29:05):
I think ultimately would fulfill the gold in nineteen sixty
four Civil Rights Amendment. Sadly, we've got a lot of
race baters in the world, a lot of people who
profit off of stirring the pot of descent, and we
of course have the polarization of race, so you have
it's almost like the merger of the Vietnam War anti
Vietnam War movement with the Green movement that kicked in
in the early late sixties early seventies. You get these

(29:27):
left wing organizations that coalesce together, take over a movement
that's designed to better race relations and turn it into
a movement that fought Fomen's and Foster's race relations in
order to advance a political message. A lot of hijacking
going on out there. James five point forty five fifty
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Rick on the line. Let's take Rick's call. Rick, thanks
for calling this morning. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's Fred.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh sorry, Sean. Sean didn't write your name right, Fred,
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Man. Well I can't be I can be named Rick too.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
You know, I don't write them, I just read them.
I trust Rick. Fred, welcome back, Thank you.

Speaker 13 (31:18):
But anyway, I was more or less talking about the
topic you're just talking about. I was born in Alabama
in the sixties and and my whole thing now is
that I don't see racist. I see a lot of
stupid people. And there's a lot of stupid people making
a lot of stupid mistakes than you, you know, And
they formed that thing like white privileges years ago. It's

(31:40):
a thing called black privilege too, because a lot of
black people think they have it is a privilege for
them to do certain things, and they don't. And it's
it's mis education throughout that's coming from the parent to
the schools to society.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Now, TikTok.

Speaker 13 (31:57):
It's a point that now it's it's becoming insessant to
a community that it's like they think that this is
the way it's supposed to be, and it's not the
way it's supposed to be. And I try to explain
to anyone that for is my kids, Like I said,
I have four kids, all though we got master degrees.
And my whole thing is, once again, that's why you
have libraries. That's why you have either the internet, you

(32:19):
can go in for get the information from. There's no
certain thing now is that you can't learn something. And
I just want, you know, like I said, older black man,
so I'm knock them to understand that there's nothing to
holding you.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Back now other than your mind.

Speaker 13 (32:32):
Now, some people out there, like I said, are stupid
and still think the same way, but we got to
circumvince them by, you know, for or less keep moving forward.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I just want to say, once.

Speaker 13 (32:42):
Again, thank you for sometimes like I said, I.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Agree with.

Speaker 13 (32:47):
Not ninety eight percent of the stuff you do, but
I said, a couple of things I do agree with
you with. But like I said, I like the way
that you you form things if you try to keep
thinking even for everybody, and I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I appreciate it, Rick, I really do. And I thank
you for calling in and passing along your observations and
life experience because everybody's got their own and as a
black man and who grew up in that particular area
of the country, you got you got a lot of
things to talk about and a lot of perspective that
someone like me who grew up in dal Hide doesn't have.
So good man, Fred, you are always welcome on the
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(34:46):
all right, And uh, Sean, you got the biggest duce
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A former teacher at Oak Hill Christian Schools from Fairfax, Henty,
Virginia facing charges after he allegedly tried to engage in
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of Ashburn. Police arrested him at his home in connection

(35:09):
with the investigation started last month. Saban contacted an undercover
detective posing as a fourteen year old during their online conversations.
Police said Saban initiated inappropriate conversations and planned to travel
to Fairfax kind of do engage in sex acts with
the child. Detectives contacted Saban with other incident connected with him,
rather with another incident that took place last October where

(35:30):
he also was allegedly talking with a detective and pretending
to be underage. He taught at oak Hill Christian School,
Private Christian School and McNair since been fired. Investigators are
jay wine to believe they or other children may have
been inappropriately contacted with him to contact the police. He's
being held without bond in the Adult Detention Center in Fairfax.

(35:51):
Go ahead see Sean's not paying attention five fifty six
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What do you think Donald Trump claims he's gonna end
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On the heels of the meeting with Pewtin and Selonsky

(37:33):
over the weekend and yesterday, I'm not quite sure where
we are. There's a meeting that's been negotiated between Putin
and Zelenski, followed by a three way meeting which with Tump,
between Trump, Selonski, and Putin question, I want to know
what security guarantees means. Trump suggested, we've been involved in
security guarantees, which suggests there was no statement that US

(37:54):
troops would not be on the ground. But the absence
of a statement that US troops will not be on
the ground leaves open the possibility that you US troops
will beyond the ground in Ukraine. I just keep going
back to why also talk about US supplying more military
hardware and weapons to Ukraine as part of the security guarantee.
European Union may put boots on the ground, and that's okay,
their backyard. As I said, I mean, I always wonder

(38:17):
how we get roped into being the one responsible for
negotiating peace. I don't mind that role so much. But
when it comes to us paying for rebuilding and paying
for security and having at presence there sounds to me
like it invites World War three. I know they want
security guarantees to keep Putin from reinvading, But if we
have boots on the ground in Ukraine and your Putin

(38:37):
does invade, doesn't that suggest the possibility of World War IIE,
More fundamentally, the cost of all of it. Why would
we commit American resources to that country which has no
direct connection to our security? Again, I go back. It's
the European Union that ato country security that's more at
risk to the extent you perceive it to be at risk.
Let's go to the phones. John, thanks for calling this morning.

(38:59):
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 15 (39:00):
Him, Good morning, A long time listener, first time caller.
Clown from Columbus, Ohio. A cool up here after after
moving to Columbus four four or five years ago from
the Cincinnati area, I still listen most mornings.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
You do an ice jobs.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You do a nice job. Thank you.

Speaker 15 (39:17):
One day I'd like to meet you, I I listener.
Lunch is interesting, but it's.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
A it's a bit of a drive. Yeah, right, right,
But my daughter went to Ohio State and I dated
a girl when I was in college from Ohio State.
I've made that trip more times than I care to
even remember. John, It's just a boring drive. Corn corn corn,
corn car.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's not a fun drive.

Speaker 15 (39:38):
You're right, You're right, hey, And in line with your
past recent comment, where's the U n and all of this,
Ukraine is not Ukraine is not a NATO member. We
have no commitment there. I understand Trump. I understand Trump
is in his his personality and his drive is probably

(40:03):
the only person in the world can get pootin to
the table. Okay, getting to the table. But where is
the United Nations? And what do we spend to support
the United Nations? Talk about another budget issue?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
How much?

Speaker 15 (40:18):
How much do they live rent free on our in
our country? What do we spend to support them? And
why is the United Nations at least in the conversation
about putting boots on the ground to support this and that.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's an open question.

Speaker 8 (40:34):
I have no idea what the answer.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Is, John, I don't either, but I think my perception
of the United Nation, they can't get anything accomplished because
you have all of these multiple nations, one hundred plus nations,
all each has their own individual perception and a political
perspective on things, each has its own ideas, and none
of them, none of them agree on anything at all.
It's like hurting cats. It's it's just so ineffectually. They

(40:57):
can't get anything accomplished because they can't agree on any thing.
And you're right, we pay for the vast majority of it.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
How much to support that process?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Oh, i'd adventure guess, I don't even know. I'm sure
it's an internet searcher way John too much considering the
return on investment. I'm convinced that the only reason we
remain a member of the United Nations considering it accomplishes nothing.
Think about a war, famine, look at Gaza. They think
Gaza is a place where the United Nations could play

(41:27):
a role of getting food to people or something. They
ended up accomplishing nothing. But I think the reason we
continue to have some connection with it is because they
use it for intelligence gathering. I mean, can you imagine
how many spies are stuffed into the United Nations organizations
and all the member countries and everything it's a spy operation.

Speaker 15 (41:47):
That's the only viable explanation I could. Yeah, that's a
good one. I hadn't thought of that one, but that's
probably right.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I think that's the only one I can come up with.
You know, we really need to have access to all
these nut jobs so we know what positions are advocating,
who they're funding, what side there are, and so we
get a sense of balance and perspective. But beyond that,
they don't accomplish anything, and we waste a lot of
money there. I don't know if this spying element is
a return on investment we can hang our hat on.
But that's the only thing I could have ever been
able to come up with.

Speaker 15 (42:13):
Good answer is the only one I could come up with.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Keep doing what
you're doing.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I enjoyed listening John, Thank you so much for the compliments,
and I truly appreciate your loyalty. Listening to the fifty
five Case Morning Show, it just really warms my heart.
Five one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred eight
hundred two three dot Can he do it? Donald Trump?
And asked yesterday he intends to sign an executive voter,
banning mail in ballots, and banning electric voting in federal elections.

(42:39):
Operative point there, because there's going to be a legal
battle over this. He says it's necessary to restore public
confidence in American elections. He says they've been plagued by fraud, mismanagement,
manipulation since we started using and expanding vote by mail. Quote.
I am going to lead the movement to get rid
of mail in ballots and also, while we're at it,
highly inaccurate, very expensive, and seriously controversial voting machines. Constitution

(43:05):
does vest the authority to minister elections with Congress, not
the president. Richard Pildes, a professor of law at New
York Couniversity, one of many professors asked about this. The
President has no power constitutionally to dictate to states the
manner in which they conduct national elections. Well, that's a
question that will be litigated. Now. It's kind of interesting

(43:30):
the timing on this, because I know a lot of
my listeners had brought up the idea of these dominion
voting machines, and a lot of questions swirling about whether
it was controlled in Venezuela and whether the dominion voting
machines changed the outcome, changed votes to go to Joe
Biden and not Donald Trump. Well, there have been two
lawsuits over this, and Newsmax just wrote a check for

(43:50):
sixty seven million dollars to Dominion Voting Systems because they claimed,
of course that well Newsmacks lied. Yeah, and this is
number two so most recently. In this one, a Dominion
alleged that Newsmax made eighteen false statements on television and
social media posts, including claims that Dominion software manipulated vote

(44:14):
counts and that the company has ties to Venezuelan firm
founded rig elections for Hugo Chavez and the Dominion had
paid kickbacks to government officials and swing states. Newsmax also
aired claims that Dominion was involved in voting irregularities in Dallas,
Texas in twenty eighteen, despite the fact that Dominion machines
were not used there. Lawsuit filed by Dominion against Newsmax.

(44:35):
Newsmacks again just wrote a check to settle it for
sixty seven million, on the heels of in twenty twenty three,
Fox News writing eight well, a much larger check based
on the same allegations. Dominion suit Fox News for broadcasting
false claims about Dominion voting machines rigged to manipulate us
the results of US elections in twenty twenty. The Presidential

(44:56):
Elections Summary Judgment was issued in that one. March twenty three,
Delaware Superior Court Judge Eric Davis ruled that it was
crystal clear that the statements Fox made about Dominion were
false and constituted defamation, per say, meaning they exposed Dominion
to public contempt or disgrace. April eighteenth, twenty three, Fox
agreed to pay Dominion to settle the litigation seven hundred

(45:20):
and eighty seven and a half million dollars, acknowledging the
court rulings, but not issuing an apology. Now, I say
that out loud, because you know, I don't know. I'm
not a software engineer, I'm not a software expert. I
know the idea of these voting machines being tacked into
is certainly a concept we can all embrace and understand
based upon well, if nothing more than Tech Friday's Dave

(45:41):
had Ter being on the program talking about all the
ways that these things can be manipulated and hacked into.
That's a legitimate concern and question did it happen with dominion. Now,
considering two large news organizations, Fox and Newsmax, both were
sued in connection with their claims that that was going
on and that they had the ability to engage in
discovery in a lawsuit. Look into the dominion voting machines,

(46:03):
check out how the software was written, Get experts to
look at it, see if it was possible to manipulate
the vote. They had all the opportunity in the world
to prove that the dominion voting machines were in fact hackable,
or that they did change the vote or whatever you
know shenanigans are being claimed or were being claimed on
the air. They clearly didn't do that. So with all

(46:26):
these monetary resources and considering you know, seven hundred and
fifty seven million dollars, I think that was what the
amount was. Fox paid seven eighty seven and a half. Now,
I regularly talk about how expensive it is to litigate
and how much lawyers charged per hour. So consider Fox
News maybe paying eight nine thousand dollars up to fifteen
hundred dollars maybe more per hour per lawyer. You can

(46:49):
buy a lot of lawyer work, You can buy a
lot of discovery. You can buy a whole lot with
seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars for a fraction
of that you could thoroughly evaluate, investigate the case, and
defend it. Say no, no, no, we were accurate. Here's
what we found in the Dominion voting system. Here's where
the software has holes in it. Here's where the opportunity
existed for things to happen and manipulate the vote. They

(47:12):
didn't do that. So I kind of have a swirling
jaded center well skepticism over the claim in the aftermath
of these two settlements that Dominion somehow manipulated the vote.
Does it mean we should continue using those with the
opportunity to have the vote manipulated with the opportunity for hacking,

(47:34):
I think trumps onto something that maybe we need to
get rid of those. Can it happen?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Though?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
It got a great illustration of some ballot harvesting going on. Yes,
we have more video from Michigan revealing and showing how
easy it is to rig an election with mail in votes.
That's where I think the problem lies, probably less so
with the electronic voting, much more so with people harvesting, collecting,

(48:06):
and otherwise maybe manipulating people to vote in a different
way because we have mail in ballots and you can
walk over to someone's house and put pressure on them.
Here's your mail in ballot. I see you've received it
from the Board of Elections. How about you vote for
Joe Biden. Okay, here, we'll take it in and and
and put it in the mail for you. Yeah, that

(48:26):
happens a lot. I am certain of that, and I
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Speaker 4 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Going back to the dominion voting machines, I thought it
was rather unusual. Back in Georgia. Democrats in twenty twenty,
I think it was criticize the state's decision to use
the dominion ballot marketing devices, claiming they were vulner able
to tampering and lack the transparency of hand marked paper ballots. Right,
that's kind of Trump's point, lawsuits were filed seeking to
block the use of these dominion ballot marketing devices the

(50:10):
voting systems, with election security advocates pointing to the risks
of hacking and software flaws. Now, it doesn't mean that
they were there, but of course the risks are genuine
see Dave Hatter. I saw a Newsmatter pointing on this.
There was a twenty twenty HBO documentary Kill Chain, the
Cyber War in America's Election, which pointed out the potential

(50:31):
keyword vulnerabilities and computerized votings. So they interviewed security experts. Yes,
the potential was there, but it didn't really happen, So
you got that question swirling around.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
The other component of this is the idea of you know,
mail in ballots. You got ballot harvesting. Third parties allowed
to collect and deliver large numbers of ballots, which causes
concerns about coercion or tampering, which I alluded to in
the last segment. Chain of custody. Once about leaves the
hands of the voter, it can be difficult to track
and ensure that it's counted securely. Signature verification failures with
critics saying standards for matching signatures are lax or not

(51:06):
consistently enforced. And then finally mass mailings sending in ballots
to outdated voter rolls as resulting in ballots being delivered
to the wrong address with opportunities for misuse. Well, you
have a real life illustration of this just happened the
other day. Actually, the complaint was filed earlier this year
where at Hamtramp City Council, the Saint Michigan and four

(51:30):
of the six members of that council, along with a
former member under criminal investigation for conspiracy and election flaud
related to the illegal acquisition of absentee ballots. Michigan Attorney
General's requested the appointment of a special prosecutor. Petition filed
March of this year by the Assistant Attorney General and
head of the Criminal Investigation Division accuses six individuals of

(51:51):
quote conspiring to obtain unmarked absentee ballots signed by newly
naturalized citizens, then filing them without their own candidate choices,
in other words, filling them out as they saw a fit.
Petition states that some of the suspects paid money for
votes and coursed others to claim residents that addresses that
they did not actually live in well. New surveillance video

(52:14):
out showing the city council member Abu Musa, Democrat, Wayne County, Michigan,
engaging what they allege is in late night ballots stuffing.
In the first video, a black pickup truck pulls up
to the city hall in the dead of night. Footage
shows three men inside, including what seems to be Councilman
Musa in the back seat, while the driver is aggressively

(52:36):
stuffing bundled absentee ballots into the dropbox. Fast forward four days,
they have a second clip video showing Musa in the
passenger seat of a different vehicle handing over three large
stacks of ballots to the driver, who then deposits them
into the dropbox. Michigan State Police have confirmed that these
videos are now part of the active criminal investigation. So

(53:01):
one small town one election incidents occurred shortly before the
primary election. Guess what, Abu Musa the top contender for
city council, getting eleven hundred and twenty nine votes. Huh,

(53:21):
I'm sure there's nothing to see there with him stuff
in the ballot box. That's what is bad about mail
in voting. It's so there's so much opportunity to rip,
to steal the vote. And how many of my listeners
out there believe the twenty twenty election was stolen with
this kind of activity going on a lot?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Donald Trump's been going on for a long time, but
you know this is I mean, traither interesting. You know,
we find out about this and it takes time. It
was the twenty twenty three city council election that this
video relates to. It's twenty twenty five now, and it's
only now emerging, which is why I always try to

(54:02):
take that wait and see approach, you know, I Maureen,
if you're out there, I mean, I was thinking about
our bet. She said she was convinced several years ago that,
you know, the election was stolen, Donald Trump would ultimately
be sworn in as president to the exclusion of Joe Biden,
like that Bell could ever be unwrong. And I said,
now that's never going to happen, because, of course, my
perception is the Biden administration will be almost all the

(54:23):
way over or completely over, before all the facts and
evidence about this type of activity were made were brought
to light. Here we are quite a few years later
and still kind of an absence of that kind of
thing going on, but we know it goes on. Here
is a real life illustration from Michigan. So whether Donald

(54:44):
Trump can legally prevent mail in ballots is one thing,
and I think he's on thin ice on that. Whether
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chimed in on this one this morning. Sadly, we have
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last night court In cincint Police Sergeant Philipacino the shooting
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Another teenager shot in downtown Cincinnati said Over to Middletown,
several services offered by the City of Middletown closed indefinitely
because of a cyber security incident over the weekend. According
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night informing residents of the disruption. They didn't specify what
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agencies to resolve it. Due to the incident, all in
person services at the Middletown City Building are shut down.
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utility building, utility billing, say it Right, Thomas Income Tax,
and the Health Department. They said the utility invoices will
still be able to be paid online through invoice Cloud,
but there'll be a small credit card charge those can't
pay that way. No utilities will be shut off during
the for non payment. While this disruption exists, multiple city

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services are still available. Despite the disruption. Middletown municipal courts
still running on a normal schedule. All parties with pending
cases are to report to the previously scheduled court dates.
City council meeting scheduled for yesterday was set to happen.
I imagine it did go through without a hitch. Officials didn't
say if any personal information to city officials or residents
was accessed in the quote unquote cybersecurity incident, so I

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suppose details to follow. Greenhills Police Department claims an increase
in criminal activity in some residential streets last couple of months.
They say crime has been connected to homes displaying a
four sale signed in the yard court of Greenhills Police.
They want the community to be vigilant about this. They
believe it could be juveniles squatting, camping out, or doing

(58:48):
illegal activities inside vacant homes. Courting Sergeant Carl Holbook and
the Greenville Green Hills Police Department. Over the last two months,
three homes there was in either a brick or a
rock thrown through a back door or back window. Says
they believe juveniles could be involved targeting the homes that
they know are unoccupied. He so so these homes were
all for sale. They were listed for sale and head

(59:09):
for sales sign in the front yard, which we think
is why they were targeted. Either the realtor or the
homeowner came and saw the damage and called us. Police
are investigating the two burglaries that happened at Gambier's Circle,
where windows were smashed and items were taken from inside
the home. They said it looks like it was targeted
for jewelry. So mind your p's and q's if your

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home is for sale. After an upticking violent crime in
downtown Cincinnati, they implemented the stricter curfew policies last week.
According to Cincinnati Police, not a single team was sighted
or transferred to a curfew center over the weekend. Curfew
coordinator at seven Hills neighborhood House in the West End,
Sheila Narreed, said, I want all the children in the

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city to give yourself a hug and pat on the
back because know that we're proud of you guys. That's
one of the locations where juveniles are taken if they're
called violating curfew. CPD released a statement yesterday thanking local
parents for keeping children safe. Thank you to our parents, guardians,
media partners, community state holders for your support and sense
of urgency and elovating the conversation about our updated curfew policy.

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Huh is that what it took HM during the weekend,
Please claim full compliance. No juvenile sided or taken to
the curfew center. Well, maybe the threat of being picked
up actually works. That's how the criminal justice system is

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supposed to operate. So we're just going to abide our
time and we'll wait. Let's pray and hope that that's
actually what happened. That by implementing the stricter curfew, you
will not encounter gangs of roving teenagers roaming the streets
after hours when you're walking out of a concert. Six
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Thinking about the most financially mismanaged states in the Union,
and Illinois always pops into my mind. Their pension problems.
They're the amount of money that they're in debt. Their
budgets are insane, and they keep adding, add and adding.

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I would hate I would feel trapped if I was
in the state of Illinois. I used to live there.
It's bad enough fact when we lived there, but that
was in the nineties. They had these problems and they
just keep getting worse and worse every year. Going back
to the Cincini City Council race, doing the same thing
over and over again, expecting a different result is the
definition of stupidity. Welcome to the state of Illinois, where
Chicago dominates everything and further exacerbating already terrible situation financially.

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Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker signed a bill into law
just I think it was just yesterday, which allows student
financial aid to all residents, emphasis on all. That would
include regardless of immigration status, which allow illegal immigrants living
in Illinois to receive education financial benefits. Hum Representative Mary Miller,

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Republican in Illinois, they do have a couple of them
described as rewarding illegal immigrants and called it a slap
in a face to Illinois families and students. I would
just say taxpayers. Generally speaking. The bill purports to establish
here's that word again, equitable eligibility for financial aid and benefits.

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Accord to the bill, a student who is an Illinois
resident and who is not otherwise eligible for federal financial aid, including,
but not limited to where did this come from? A
transgender student who is disqualified for failure to register for
selective service, or a non citizen student who has not
obtained lawful permanent residence shall be eligible for financial aid

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and benefits. Oh oh, oh, okay, maybe those two qualificated
non citizen student as well as transgender student disqualified for
failure to register for selective service. Maybe those render you
ineligible for federal financial aid. I presume that's the case.

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Law pertains any student residing in Illinois, making him or
her eligible for financial aid programs funded or administered by
the state, local governments or public universities. Now that Representative Miller,
commenting of the legislation allowing taxpayer funded financial aid for
illegal aliens as a sla up in the face too

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hard working Illinois families and students. Our state is drowning
in debt, Representative Miller said, Yet JB. Pritsker is determined
to drain even more taxpayer dollars to reward illegals. Illinois
taxpayers should not have their hard earned taxpayer dollars pay
for benefits for illegal immigrants who shouldn't be here in

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the first place, according to the statement issued from the
Illinois GOP. And they have one of those as well.
Not real effective in Illinois. But yeah, I just don't
know how you get over the insult to the taxpayers,
you know, and I know from personal experience, and it's
only gotten worse than the state of Illinois because I

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did live there. For eight years. My wife and I.
It is outrageously expensive. I mean my personal experience, we
both took about a third in a cut in salary
to move to Cincinnati. When we move back, and yet
we experienced a massive increase in quality of life, a

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housing more affordable, travel times reduced dramatically, the cost to
get into restaurants and pay for movies and concert tickets
all a fraction of what you pay in Chicago, or
well that's where we lived there outside of Chicago, but
in Illinois generally speaking, it's crazy. It's one of the
states that has lost almost a million people over the
course of the last several years. Why because we all

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found out that we can move, and we all found
out that maybe we can work remotely. I don't need
to be near the city of Chicago in order to
do my job. Or maybe just maybe I've just had it.
I don't like the crime, I don't like the cost,
I don't like the travel times. I don't like anything
about this. My quality of life sucks. So I'm going
to pack my bags and go elsewhere. Lots of businesses

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have made this decision as well. Just like California, Illinois
lost a whole lot of business and industry because it's
too damn expensive. Guess what just got more expensive in Illinois.
The burden on the taxpayer now to cover educating illegal
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Fifty eight fifty five KRCD talk station. Timothy says, that's
the definite of a definition of insanity, not stupidity. According
to Einstein, doing the same thing over and over again,
expecting a different result either way you slice it, it's stupid.
Five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred eight
hundred eight two three talk John call It from Florida.
Welcome to the Morning Show. Appreciate you listening.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Yeah, I just wanted to comment on living in Illinois.
Living in Chicago, I lived in Oak Park as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
What did I ask you? What street you lived on?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I lived on Hannaford.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Okay, we were on Grove South Grove.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Right right, and then I lived in Rogers Park for
a while. But joint being is when I moved there originally,
so like it was the last two years that Daily
was mayor before Emmanuel came in, and I'd never lived
in a more corruption I've never like I lived in

(01:09:39):
New York, I've lived all over, but bar Non, Chicago
politically is the most corrupt city on planet Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I agree. You know, John Dee, did you get this sense?
Because I did. It was almost an out loud statement
that the Democrats there all knew how corrupt they were,
but they didn't have a problem with it because it
was their corruption. It benefited them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
They flaunted it, they fawted their corruption, they loved it,
they waller in it. And the Aldermen, the Aldermen are
beyond corrupt. Like just just just two simple stories. So
apparently I got a ticket and they put a boot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
On my car.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
You know they drive around boots on your car. Yeah,
well I was just like, I just went to a
hardware and bought a steel song and cut it off
and just left it right there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
And I just left it right there.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
That's just one and so many my girlfriends tire, I
kid you, not my she lived in Wiggley built. My
girlfriend's tire was a half inch too far out from
the curve. They gave her a two hundred dollars ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
That sounds about right, doesn't that sound?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
People don't realize. People don't realize what people go through.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
And God forsaken, and you know why it's called the
windy City.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
It's not called the windy city from.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
The wind blown up all you think it's the winds,
Thank you sir, exactly, Ding ding ding, Get that man
a cigar.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
You're and it's so true. And I used to go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Say it's been that way for so long. Feel outside
of that. Yeah, it's I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Look, I'm trying to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I'm trying to tell people. Are you there, hello?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Yeah, I'm just trying to tell people. Like when Mayor
Daily was there, like he knew how to do a
little guy bone like you only had to pay for parking,
like up till like nine o'clock. You didn't have to
pay for parking on the weekends or on yeah, Saturday Sunday,
Saturday five Sunday was free. So there were little perks
like that now. But when Ron Emmanuel came in, he

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took the level of corruption to a whole new level.
It was just horrible. It was absolutely When Emmanuel came in,
it just ramped everything up. Yeah that's an Obama point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Y, by the way, and it hasn't gotten it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I just wanted it. I just know it's way worse.
It's way worse.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
I mean, I could just tell so many stories about
about this, oh one other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
So I get.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Pulled over from coming home from a gig, and I'm
going to finish with it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
This is how corrupted.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
It's like three o'clock in the morning and I go
through a red light that just never checked in the
traffic light cameras.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
If you could just go on about that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Did they have those there in the nineties when you
lived there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
No, I don't recall that they did. John, We were
there between ninety and ninety eight. So I'd probably just
wanted I was there a little before you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
All right, So the traffic light cameras, that's a whole
other story.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Of course, the yellow life aren't aren't even aren't even
like one second long. I mean, like you just get
that's a whole other story. But but but yeah, I mean,
so I get pulled over by like these they were
like detectives from from that public housing and like we
saw you.

Speaker 8 (01:13:17):
On that red light.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Well real quick, the guy pulls me al car and
he's like wanting to see my license and stuff. It's like,
well you don't have it on. Well why that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Pulled me out of card.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
The other the other policeman took the sixty bucks out
of my wallet and then just told me to go on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Oh nice, John, that's old old school corruptions.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
For the guys all my friends from Chicago, and they're
like welcome to Chicago. They were like welcome to Chicago,
like it was just the norm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah that's that. Yeah, that doesn't shock me at all,
old school police corruption. John. Thank you for the shared experience.
I recall it well. And the other thing about in
living in that area, it's going to take you in
hour I don't care where you're going, what errand you're
running on from the point you leave your home or
wherever you are are are standing until you get to
wherever you're going to go. You can count on at

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least an hour. What a total hassle. Six fifty six
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That was followed by the Daniel Davis Deep dive in

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the meantime. Welcome back to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show,
Brigham Accown. He directs the Initiative on American Energy Security
at the Hudson Institute Hudson dot org. He's also a
professor at Miami University. Former Federal Energy Transportation Safety regulator
and retired naval aviator. Thank you for your service to
our country, Brigha McGowan. He focuses on energy security, infrastructure,
and regulatory policy. He also gets to sit down with

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folks on c SPAN, like the president of the League
of Conservation Voters and have an argument about climate change.
Welcome back, Brigham. It's always cool having you in studio, man, Brian,
it's great to be here. Thanks for the invite. Well,
you know, it's kind of interesting that you brought that
up before were on the break there. The League of
Conservation Voters, Yeah, some left wing organization about you know,

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climate change.

Speaker 16 (01:15:57):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because grow up as a kid,
I thought they were just the people that hosted presidential
debates and they were kind of, you know, moderate, right,
And apparently that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Because zero changeing.

Speaker 16 (01:16:12):
We need to get rid of everything we own and
everything that has power, and uh, you know, we just
can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Until conditions become miserable and the population starts revolting against it. Yeah,
which seems to be going on in European Union. Yes
it is, and uh that's that started for some time.

Speaker 16 (01:16:33):
Uh, you know we've uh part of Europe is headed
back toward reality. The other part of Europe keeps going
full speed ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Germany, Yeah, they have killed their economy. They have killed it,
they absolutely have.

Speaker 16 (01:16:53):
And you know people say, well, no, no, no, that
was brought on by you know, Russia's brutal invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 16 (01:16:58):
But you know the back bound what allowed Germany to
kind of profess to be this renewable capital of the
world was their entire economy is underpinned by cheap Russian
oil and gas.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
It nothing to say behind the curtains here look at
my Windowill. We here in Germany aren't producing carbon dioxide.
But even though the Russians are, you know, providing us
with oil, it's their oil airgo. We didn't produce it,
so we don't have to be accountable for burning it
to generate power.

Speaker 16 (01:17:25):
Yeah, everybody wants to outsource their green gilt. Same thing
in Canada. You know, if it's produced elsewhere, it doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
I know. And you know a part of the larger
picture too. We cut our own throats in the name
of reducing carbon dioxide output. Meanwhile China produces and belches
it out like a grand scale. We're all breathing the
same air. I mean, the wind does blow from China
in this direction, right, I mean, it's just it's ridiculous

(01:17:55):
to ignore that reality. Absolutely.

Speaker 16 (01:17:58):
And if you look at you know, coal for example,
you know, yeah, yeah, the West has reduced coal consumption
thanks in large part to the shale fracking revolution, right,
and so we've reduced our coal consumption. China, India, the
developing world said, thank you very much. We're going to
take everything you took offline and double it. Coal has

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never had a more larger banner. Year twenty twenty five,
we're going to use the most coal in the world.
So these self imposed restrictions, all in the name of
climate change, it doesn't work. And I think, you know,
back during the first Trump term, that was one of
his complaints was, look, you're holding us to this unacceptable standard,

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and you're letting the real polluters under the guys of
being developing nations. Just China's developing nation apparently just keep
going and going.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Well, isn't that the ultimate point? I've been making this
point for a long, long, long time, that this isn't
about reducing carbon or the Earth changing its environment. It's
the fact that European Union, for a long time, and
of course the United States, has enjoyed a much more
bountiful economy. We reap the benefits of our freedom, the capitalism,

(01:19:13):
the profits that we make that we are a very
developed we're very comfortable, we can afford a lot more,
We have more stuff and things when you compare it
to third world and second world countries. They're allowed to
continue to pollute, They're allowed to continue to develop their
coal based infrastructure, electricity production, even though it's belching out carbon,

(01:19:34):
just because they are developing. So while we cut our
throats to reduce our economic might and ability, they're raising
their economic might inability. This seems to me the path
and trajectory that the globalists want to flatten the playing field.
So we're all, I might argue, equally miserable Brigham.

Speaker 16 (01:19:51):
Well, right, you just gotta you know, you can't run
so fast you need to slow down and let everybody
else catch up. That's it, you know, and not f
It's not fair. And I made that point on c
SPAN National audience was early in the morning. It was
interesting the callers who called in. Uh, you know, they
have a Democrat line, they have a Republican line, and
an independent line. And I think I fielded one Republican

(01:20:15):
call in like nine of the other people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
It's it's almost like they had a plan to call in. Oh,
I'm sure.

Speaker 16 (01:20:20):
But you know, I made this point, and that is, folks,
we can all hold our breaths, not amid anything, and
it is not going to reach any of these international
IPCC Coordinating Council goals because other people aren't playing along,
right China and India, for example, And I said, you know,

(01:20:44):
folks online, great, great, you want to do this, run
over to India, run over to China, because you know
China doesn't care about this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
They go, oh, we can work with China. No we can't. No,
they benefit economically by gitting the system and trying to
proper submit propaganda around the world that we all are
killing the planet and that we need to be convinced
that global warming is a real thing, the carbon dioxide
output is a bad thing, needs to be stopped. In
other words, they can foster and encourage that message while

(01:21:13):
ignoring it themselves to their benefit economically, because everything related
to the green revolution is manufactured in China.

Speaker 16 (01:21:20):
Yes, absolutely true. And meanwhile, you know, China is running
around suitcases full of cash saying, let us take your port,
let us build you some infrastructure. This is all designed
to extract the materials that China needs all over the
world and bring it home. They energy security. I have
to give it to them. They have a very traditional

(01:21:40):
definition of energy security, which is we want it all.
We don't want to be dependent on anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
All the above strategy. Yeah, and they're doing it right
and all the above. Considering how the expense associated with
whether you go nuclear or coal or natural gas or
put up a windmill farm. Coal is the cheapest option apparently,
because they can put up a new coal generation factory
in virtually no time.

Speaker 16 (01:22:05):
They can, and you know, quite frankly, it's still the
cheapest way of doing things. And so there's if you
look at the West that has retired at coal versus
the people adding coal, it's it's it's insane google it,
go look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Oh, it's amazing. Well, and I guess you could use
New Jersey as an illustration of how terrible things have
gotten following green policies. They close down the nuclear pants
or plants, their coal generation facilities in a rush to
go full carbon neutral before they had the carbon neutral
solar panel and wind farm infrastructure even in place, which

(01:22:42):
means they had to rely on Pennsylvania for all their
liquid natural gas to keep their energy production going because
they didn't have their own source of energy production anymore.
It's just it's like the European Union buying from Russia.
We stopped producing it in the European Union and start
supporting the Russian economy by buying it from them.

Speaker 16 (01:23:00):
Yes, and we've seen this play out in Europe also,
where people in Norway are upset because their electric prices
are rising because they're backfilling Germany when Germany is short.
The same thing in France, and I've mentioned before France
has had to save both hard to say, but France
has actually say both Germany and Spain from their own policies,

(01:23:24):
relying on the backbone of French electricity, which is nucuclear power.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Nuclear they have what forty reactors.

Speaker 16 (01:23:32):
They have somewhere in that neighborhood, and it produces, depending
on the day, somewhere between seventy five and eighty percent
of their entire electric needs.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
And exports and exports to other countries. And yet they
won't allow themselves to have air conditioning. Yes, did you
see the article? I saw the Wall Street Journal article
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Yeah, if you have air conditioning, only air conditioned one
room and never ever set the thermostat below? Was it
seventy eight degrees? Seventy eight?

Speaker 16 (01:24:01):
You know, here's the whole point I think is do
you look at policy through a lens of prosperity, and
I don't mean just get rich, I mean comfort for
your fellow man, or do you look at it from
a scarcity perspective? And when you look at it through
sarsity fo scarcity? Yeah, it is there isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Electricity production is only scarce because we regulated into scarcity.
That's very true.

Speaker 16 (01:24:32):
And you know, speaking of electricity, we have a shortfall
coming up because we too, under the previous folks, have
retired a bunch of coal fired power plants while our
demand goes up for lots of different reasons. But the
number one is we have more people here than we've
ever had. They've been moving to the South. It's hotter
in the south, and AI generation data centers. We're going

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to have our own electricity crunch in the next five
to ten years. And that's why the current administration is
moving as quickly as possible on permitting all forms of
new power generation.

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You got a new one that came out or is
coming out?

Speaker 16 (01:26:43):
Yeah, I've got a new one's coming out on the
US and EU trade policy and how energy plays a
role there. And then we've had one that just came
out within the last ten days or so on natural
gas as the workhourse for American Energy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Always excellent your thoughts, insights and expertise on those subjects, Brigham.
So we'll be looking for that again. Charged conversations. We
were talking about COEO two emissions, and I know Donald
Trump has gotten rid of that endangerment finding sort of
a I don't know, an alchemy way of turning carbon
dioxide into a pollutant by saying it contributes to air

(01:27:22):
pollution although by and in and of itself, it is
not a pollutant.

Speaker 16 (01:27:26):
Correct, correct? And what and Brian, you're spot on. What
makes it different is most of the pollutants that the
EPA when it came into being under President Nixon back
in the seventies, Right, we were going to clean up
Cuyahoga River. We didn't want particulates, right, Yeah, lead, mercury,
things that are actually carcinogenic or harmful, things that are

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harmful to your health. And if we look back at
the seventies versus a day, our water, our air, our
land is so much cleaner. True, so dramatically and repealing
that endangerment finding is important because that is the lunchpin
that allows plane of lawyers to run around the country suing, uh,

(01:28:12):
the polluters, right, not you and me that buy the stuff,
but the companies that produce a gasoline.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Oh, wait for it, Brigham, wait for it. You see
a massive class action against humanity. You're all responsible. No, no,
write a check, Brigham, you respond, write a check. We're
all responsible. And that wasn't what I know that if
you if you're producing carbon dioxide, then somehow you have
to engage in a carbon capture program which comes at
some outrageous costs. Like a coal plant it exists, Well,

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you need to capture all the carbon dioxide that comes
out of it. That renders it impossible to make a profit.

Speaker 16 (01:28:46):
So here here's a couple of things that mister Meysmith
said that I thought were pretty interesting. Running back to
the c span for just a second, repealing the endangerment
finding would be catastrophic for climate and public health. And
aggressive EPA action is essential regulation volume. That's the amount
of rags I guess is a proxy for climate progress. Okay,

(01:29:09):
speaking of progress, I know you have a chart, a
valid chart which has tracked the CO two emissions from
what around nineteen seventy to today.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Nineteen hundred actual teen hundred to today. Where does the
statistic come from?

Speaker 16 (01:29:26):
This came from the folks over at our world today
that put charts together. You can google these charts anywhere
on the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
And put in your learned experience. These are valid figures.

Speaker 16 (01:29:41):
Yeah, they come from national, international sources. These are accepted charts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
The kind of stuff that the various UN climate regulatory
agencies rely on. Yes, absolutely so, from nineteen hundred to today,
how much progress have we made on this evil carbon
dioxide bringing account? Well, it depends on what country you
live in. Right now, if we talk about emissions and

(01:30:08):
billions of tons, nineteen hundred, we went from about four
now we're about forty tons forty billion tons of CO
two a year. Okay, that sounds pretty bad, not to
me because of plant food, yes, yes, but as a
percentage of the atmosphere, it's still a fraction of a percent, right,

(01:30:31):
Oh my gosh, it's less than one half a one percent. Yeah,
not a whole lot of plant food of food out there, No,
And plants actually thrive on this. And so what I
find interesting is if we look at the western world,
in the US emissions, by the way, we're below two
thousand and five levels. On CO two, we are down substantially,

(01:30:57):
but for some reason that chart keeps going up, right,
And the European Union is also down on CO two emissions,
They are down. I guarantee you every Western nation is
down in CO two emissions.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:31:10):
So if we take the US and Europe together, we're
about where we were nineteen sixty eight nineteen seventy total emissions.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
In spite of massive population increases. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah,
we have more electricity generation, more demand, more use of
and yet we're static. Yes, in fact, down a little bit,
down a little bit. And where has all of the
extra billions of carbon dioxide come from? Briging the Colen.

Speaker 16 (01:31:37):
Gosh, Brian, I'm so glad you asked. It looks like
India has gone from a little tidy line to a
really thick red line. In fact, India right now produces
more CO two than the western world. I'm sorry, I'm
misreading that. I need to put my glasses on red.
China obviously, all right, yea, China produces more CO two

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than the rest of the Western world combined. Has also
gone from a tiny sliver to more than the US
or Europe.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
They're getting close to both of us. But give them,
give them time here, give them time, break them well.
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Brigham our energy policy expert in studio. One more segment
here with Bregham before he is off to take his
son off to college. And congratulations to your son, real
milestone for him, Thank you very much. And the parents.
Oh yeah, well I tried. I went through that, so yeah,
I know I didn't have to drive as far as you.

(01:33:48):
So good luck on the journey and safe travels to
you and your family. So your wife's waiting in the wings.
Hurry up, Brigham, get home. We're going to go on
a road trip. So one more right, moving back to
energy policy. Yeah, and I know we got some new
guidance on windmill and solar farms here, which makes it
a little more difficult under the big one, big beautiful
bill to continue working on a project if it hasn't

(01:34:10):
actually started. So maybe some clawing back on that. But
what of solar. I thought that was going to be
the salvation of the world. They're not doing solar anymore. Well, yeah,
it's interesting.

Speaker 16 (01:34:22):
You know, if you look online, all you see is
renewables are taking over x number at gigawats at it.
By the way, in real in traditional power, let's take coal,
nuclear gas. When you add megawatts of power, it's a
real number.

Speaker 8 (01:34:41):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:34:41):
It's like driving your car. When you say it has
x number of horse power, it has x number of
horse power. Right when you add gigawatts or megawatts of
solar or wind, what you have installed is not necessarily
what you get out of the sea.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
It just dependent upon the weather it is.

Speaker 16 (01:35:01):
And so people are like, well we added this much,
you will no, not necessarily. And it's what we call
intermittent because it is not a dispatchable power source, meaning
it's not available twenty four to seven. And what's happened
is until about twenty twenty three, solar looked like it
was on an exponential curve and then suddenly it flatlined.

(01:35:23):
We're not installing anymore solar in twenty twenty five than
we did in twenty twenty three. Why because around the
world subsidies are ending.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
That's it.

Speaker 16 (01:35:33):
And the same thing is true on wind. I don't
know if you've seen, but some of the wind providers
are going bankrupt, asking for one Danish company is asking
for a nine billion dollar bailout from the Danish government
because it doesn't it doesn't make sense. So the whole
point of energy security is to have available energy where

(01:35:53):
and when you need it, at at a affordable price.
And that's where some of these other technologies fall short.

Speaker 10 (01:36:01):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Subsidies blur the line of what's affordable and what's not.
If you subsidize something, you take away the pain associated
with the real cost of it. You give someone seven
thousand dollars an a tax bed for buying an EV
that they otherwise wouldn't have bought or couldn't afford. It
maybe makes it affordable, it maybe makes it competitive with
an eternal combustion engine, but that's the taxpayer dollars going
to subsidize someone's private purchase.

Speaker 16 (01:36:23):
It absolutely is, and not to say that inflation isn't real.
But you know your non EV car, part of the
cost of that new EV car and why prices have
gone up is you are subsidient for the losses on
the EV side. So if we kept a focus on outcomes, right,
if CO two is your thing, tons down, install nuclear reliability,

(01:36:46):
stable bills, that's really what we're looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:36:50):
The other side will say, well, wait a minute, oil
and gas subsidiace. You know, one of their favorite talking
points is we have to get rid of oil and
gas subsidies. But the reality is those are subsidies like
there are are for renewables, to the extent that you
could even claim these things as subsidies. They are the
same tax breaks that any business owner gets in the
entire country, regardless of one line of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Business you're in.

Speaker 16 (01:37:12):
Seeing the tax code, yeah, that's not a subsidy right down.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Sort depreciation investments. You know, I purchased the durable goods,
all of that. See your tax code.

Speaker 16 (01:37:21):
Yeah, so it's a little disingenuous, intellectual ingenuous. Yeah, to say, well,
you know, oil and gas industry has been subsidized for you, Well,
not true industry.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Business period manipulated by the tax code. I hate the
tax code for that reason. I don't want my behavior
manipulated by some you know, ridiculous line item in the
tax code. You know you're going to go to credit
if you do this. No, thank you very much. All right,
let's let's let's wrap things up. Bring them accoun because
I know you got to go. I don't want to
get in trouble with your wife. Let's go back to
some of the alarmist claims. Remember al Gore, well, should

(01:37:55):
we all be dead by now? Because you just pointed
out our missions levels, It basically remains stat The global
emissions levels have gone up because Indian, China don't care,
among others. So we haven't made any progress in terms
of reducing global CO two volumes. And we're not dead yet.
We're not dead. We're not dead. And to the ice
capture now, they were and they haven't.

Speaker 16 (01:38:16):
In fact, Greenland is showing more ice than twenty five
year average. So back in December, right before Christmas two
thousand and nine, al Gore said there's a seventy five
percent chance that Arctic summer ice cap could be gone
in the next five to seven years. So let's see
two thousand and nine plus five, twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen,

(01:38:38):
we're ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Out, years later. Yeah, yeah, they're still there. They're still there.
Coolar Bear's still okay.

Speaker 16 (01:38:43):
Polar bears are doing just fine. Everybody else seems to
be doing pretty well. And I think that's part of
the issue is I think most people will say, yes,
the Earth is warming. The problem is these climbate alarmists
are taking the worst climb projection models and here and
here's something they only talk about the worst case scenario.

(01:39:05):
When you look at climate models, there are a half
a dozen plus based on your assumptions too, no change
to the world is going to end and guess which one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
They use The world is going to end.

Speaker 16 (01:39:17):
And over the last five to ten years, when you
look at actual observed versus projection.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
They don't match up. Nope, but here but they but
they keep going. Sure as hell told us it was
going to happen, didn't they break? And we are all
going to die? It is really how I boil event.

Speaker 16 (01:39:35):
Yeah, and I think that is you know that alarm
is feeling is as one of their you know, one
of the turn offs, right, why people kind of tune
it out after a while because it's just not credible.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Well, for the more intelligent among us, we don't look
at one specific weather event and immediately say this is
because of global warming. We look at patterns of weather
events over long periods of time, where we have data
showing that there really is no difference between the number
of hurricanes today is the word you know, a hundred
years ago, one hundred and fifty years ago, on and

(01:40:06):
on and on.

Speaker 16 (01:40:07):
You know, you're you're so spot on and thinking of hurricanes.
We've all seen well, we've got the European model, this model,
the Galileo model. You know, we can't even figure out
where a hurricane is gonna go to, let alone project
you know, climate change or a long period of time.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
So, yeah, it doesn't work any better. I feel that
way every time I read the weather here in the morning,
It's like, is it really gonna be eighty one degrees
later this week? I don't believe it, but you know
you got to guess on some level. Brigham accownt Hudson
dot orgers where you find Brigham and the Hudson Institute.
They do great work, and Brigham's always just so kind
to come in the program and talk about these very
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we get an update on the situation with Russia and Ukraine.
Of course, of course, on the heels of the meeting
with Vladimir Putin the weekend and yesterday with Zelenski and
the European leaders. All we have is a process. There
is no cease fire, which apparently Donald Trump doesn' want

(01:46:10):
to use that term anymore semantics, But they didn't achieve that.
What they achieved is this what looks like two step process.
They have an agreement now where Zelensky's going to meet
with Putin, followed by a meeting between Zelenski, Putin, and Trump.
I don't know what they hope to accomplish. I guess

(01:46:32):
Zelensky paid a little bit of lip service to maybe
some land concessions. And then there's this whole security component
and That's what's really got me down. I started the
morning show talking about this. Trump said publicly for the
first time that the United States will participate in providing
security guarantees to Ukraine as part of any peace agreement
that is reached with Russia. That means maybe maybe boots

(01:46:55):
on the ground. Trump did not say we would not
put boots on the ground. But according to the European
peacekeepers security assurances made up of four different components, one
a military presence suggested maybe the European Union might take
that role. The United Kingdom and the European leaders that
were there both suggested they'd be willing to put boots
on the ground. Least that's the impression I got. So

(01:47:17):
military presence on the ground. This is all in it
designed to keep Putin from Putin from reinvading two air defenses,
three armaments, and then finally monitoring a cessation of hostilities.
So monitoring maybe think of Vietnam advisors early on in

(01:47:37):
that conflict. But my problem with all this is why
are we involved in that component?

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
I conceded, maybe there's a definite need for Donald Trump,
as President of the United States of America, could be
a mediator a negotiator, someone who can maybe get these
two guys to end the hostilities. It's clearly what he wants.
Bloodshed needs to be stopped. What do we need to
do to reach that. Vladimir Putin wants land, and of

(01:48:07):
course he wants some assurances from from the powers that
be US, the European Union, NATO countries that the Ukraine
doesn't get into NATO. But what of our involvement? Now?
If Donald Trump just says, fine, we negotiated a piece,
or here's an agreement, both parties agree to it, we

(01:48:27):
mediated he can take credit for, you know, reaching across
the table and getting these two guys to sit down
and play nicely together. But why would we be financially
committed to anything involving the future in Ukraine? This is
going to cost a lot of money. Why would we
put boots on the ground and I, you know, I

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use that and I don't say world War three, you know, lightly,
But Vladimir Putin not exactly an always stable guy. If
we have boots on the ground in Ukraine and the
point is to prevent Vladimir Putin from invading, and he
decides to invade, that sounds to me like an opportunity
for war to break out. He killed our guys, just

(01:49:09):
the thought. But then in moving back, the cost and
our presence in yet another country in the world at
significant cost. How much money in air defenses, how much
armaments or how many armaments are we going to have
to provide? We've already spent billions and billions of dollars. Again,
we have no connection with this country other than our

(01:49:30):
relationship with European Union and ATO countries which face a
broader threat from Ukraine because it's right there in their backyard.
Ukraine's pretty damn far away from the United States of America.
Do they represent a threat to us? Clearly not. So
this just mindset that we need to be there, and
we need to be funding anything that happens in the aftermath.

(01:49:53):
Just I can't find a motivation or reason. I keep
looking at the debt clock and realizing that hell underwater
we are, keep looking at the well the supplies that
we have for our American and military, and we keep
hearing reports that we don't have enough arms and munitions,
We don't have enough to defend ourselves or engage in
another conflict like for example of China invades Taiwan. If

(01:50:14):
we get involved in that one, we need to be
looking out for our own best interests, which includes our
financial bottom line might take We'll see what Daniel Davis
says to say about that. At eight thirty. Stick around
because after the top of our news we get to
hear from Bright bart News Alex Marlow, the editor in chief,
about his new book, Breaking the Law. I'll be right back.

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Still be called the Twelve Day War. I suppose that's
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welcome back. It's always great to have you on the program.

Speaker 17 (01:51:22):
Brian, always shame for me being on your show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Well, and congratulations number three in your books, You've written
a new book, Breaking the Law, exposing the weaponization of
America's legal system against Donald Trump. You know, Alex, I
practice law for as a litigation attorney for sixteen years
and I'm still licensed. I haven't practiced since I've been
on radio, and this is my nineteenth here in radio.
So a little rusty am I. But having practiced law

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for at least eight years in Cook County, Chicago, that
was like number one for forum shopping with plaintiff lawyers.
They loved to sue defendants in Cook County for you know,
product liability violations, autobile accidents, because you're gonna get some
really pro plaintiff judge, You're gonna have some really friendly
environment in terms of the makeup of the juries that

(01:52:08):
was all pro plaintiff. You're almost guaranteed a victory filing
a Cook County. So that was the magnet for a
lot of plaintiff lawyers, and they manufacture reasons to get
jurisdiction in Cook County. A lot of that went on
against Trump in this law fair that you write about
in your book, breaking the law. So you have forum shopping.
But I want to caveat that, because that's been going
on forever. They know where the liberal judges are, they

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know where the liberal juries are or the anti Trump folks.
But litigation myth number seven, which here was a Saturday
Night Live routine, Alex, your claim must have merit. You know,
we have a rule eleven you have to have you
have to have a good faith belief that the lawsuit
you are filing as an attorney actually has merit. Now

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a lot of the file, the suits that were fought
against Trump had no merit, like the real estate case. Alex.

Speaker 17 (01:52:57):
Yeah, well actually none of them men any merit there,
all ridiculous. And this is what's interesting. And I'm glad
you brought up forum shopping. I haven't had a lot
of time to talk about it since I've been promoting
the book because it's one where there doesn't seem to
be a good solution. It's one of these things where
the left wing apparatus was able to spot something and
then over time they've just made things so much worse.
It really was Mark Elias, who's probably familiar to a

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lot of people in your audience, who is one of
the main attorneys who has been pushing law here and
probably got on the radar of a lot of your
audience during the Perkins Cooy stuff where he was involved
with the manufacturing the fake steal dossier and the Russian collusion.
Oaks was very much involved in the case end up

(01:53:40):
in those alleged criminal convictions for President Trump. None of
my case would have gotten started without the fake Russian
colution Hoaks. It all ties together because Elias has really
been the architecture of this strategy of the left, using
the form shopping opportunity that has been afforded by the
current rules on the books that has allowed for the

(01:54:02):
left to really harass Donald Trump. It's really what it's been.
And every one of the major cases against him, and
I go through all six of them in the book,
I don't think any of them a merit. The most
egregious was the tow Jack Smith cases where he was
an unconstitutionally appointed special counsel, But it just took eighteen
months for people to draw back conclusion, and it was

(01:54:24):
he was always unconstitutional. He's unconstitutional the whole time. And
that's old nature of these things is that they're all
coming out of nowhere and are specifically targeted, which violates
the due process clause of the Constitution. And thus all
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Aren't illegal illegal And I guess that goes to my
point litigation mid number seven. Your collect your claim must
have merit. If you don't have sufficient facts or information
supporting your claim, then I guess you make them up.
Steele dossier, which served as the predative for so many
unconstitutional violations of the law.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Yeah, of course, and that's why we're investigating that.

Speaker 17 (01:54:57):
But the investigations need to continue because if you think
about out the case, the Stormy Daniel's case they called
the hush money case, Brian, you know, hush money's not illegal,
and it doesn't mean that you're guilty. Also, and I
cite a crystal clear example of Trump paying quote unquote
hush money when Trump was clearly innocent. He just didn't
want to get harassed because he's a busy public person

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and not everyone wants to spend a bunch of their
life in the courtroom. But that case was one where
allegedly records were falsified and some sort of a strained
campaign violation.

Speaker 7 (01:55:31):
All of it was.

Speaker 17 (01:55:32):
Brought with the express purpose of trying to harm Donald
Trump politically again and never should have originated to begin
with because of the Russian collusion hoax, and it ended
in what was obviously absurd penalties. Every inch of that
case was ridiculous, and yet that was the one that
was most effective. And that's what's the scariest part is
that the law fair apparatus has been able to figure

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out ways to use the system to isolate a political
target and the spirit of Solinski and try to ruin
their lives and jail them so that you and I,
we the people, we can't choose who we want for president.
That was the whole point.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
That was the whole point. And then you know, you
can't talk about this as it relates to Donald Trump
without the there but for the grace of God go
I kind of thought, because you know who among us
could have afford to fight the legal fight. They literally
tried to bankrupt Donald Trump. They have every form of
litigation known demand being waged against them. Every single case

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they file in any jurisdiction is going to require a
team of lawyers that Trump has to retain. We're talking
legal bills probably north of four figures an hour, because
that's what real high falutant lawyers pay these days. He's
lucky he was a multi multi millionaire because if they'd
just sued you or me, we'd have been dead. We
couldn't have fought this fight.

Speaker 17 (01:56:46):
You just great instincts. Because I write that this was
one of Trump's secret weapons is that he was just
so wealthy. It's the obvious one is that he's got
this otherworldly rhinocera skin or his ability to take a
punch is we've never seen like We'll never see anything
like it again. I think a lot of people in
public life are born with that gift, but he's just
at an absurd level. But the other one that you

(01:57:08):
write about is the other one that you say is
covered in detail, is that he's the only president, not
only not he's there's real few people on earth. He's
the only president history that could have survived this. From
a financial perspective, The fact that they still have in
Tiss James's absurd kangaroo court one hundred and seventy five

(01:57:30):
million dollars of his money up on bond to day
while he's serving as president. Wouldn't distract you. Brian, If
someone I know, someone who made your guts had one
hundred and seventy five million your money tied up, kind
of brokeer peace in Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Just get one hundred and seventy five.

Speaker 17 (01:57:44):
Mil of your Comep's the only guy ever who could
survive that. And again that's not okay with me. I'm
not okay with that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
I am not either. And you know this, this idea
of legal expenses and the way prosecutors work, because I
know you're right about prosecutors and the abuse of the
legal system, prosecutors not willing to even enforce the law.
This is that whole woke criminal justice system that has
reaped so much, so much negative and problems for our
city in terms of increasing crime. But you know, a
lot of my listeners, including me, Second Amendment fans, we

(01:58:12):
own firearms, and we know and understand how to use
them when it's appropriate legally to use them. But what
we see is when someone uses their firearm in self
defense legitimately and reasonably has a legitimate anticipation of grievous
bodily harm or death, so they use their self defense
rights properly. People express a concern because quite often that

(01:58:34):
individual ends up getting prosecuted. And therein lies the challenge
I'm gonna go to jail. I mean, people think about
this before excising the Second Amendment right. It's reasonable and
appropriate as it is for me to use that right.
I'm afraid that these left wing prosecutors are gonna come
down hard on me and I'm gonna have to lawyer
up and defend myself. I might go to jail.

Speaker 17 (01:58:55):
And this this is a digression that is not part
of the book. No no, no no, But I want
to tell you my personal shower. I came to firearms late.
I grew up in LA so that not a big
gun gun culture out here. But I came to firearms later.
You know, I took a shooting lesson or two but
less than three is what to do if you shoot someone?
Like how to lawyer up and how to go through.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
The legal process.

Speaker 10 (01:59:17):
I mean, you got to come up with that real fast.

Speaker 17 (01:59:19):
Like you got to be prepared that if you're shooting someone,
then if you're going to be tied up in court
for a while, I know. So even if you're justified,
So keep that in mind if you're going to pull
trigger at someone. But this is but this is it,
I mean, this is the whole thing. Is how much
of our lives are supposed to be wasted in the
courtrooms for bogus reasons, particularly if we're campaigning for the presidency,

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which is what Trump was doing. And yet they kept
throwing cases at him because they thought they had him.
They didn't know if they had him at the polls.
They thought they probably didn't, but they did think that
he could maybe be in jail or if not, just
harass him and just bother him so that no one
follows in his footsteps. And Trump was so otherworldly resilient
that he beat But I'm afraid, in fact, I know

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they will try this again. They will try it with
more intensity. And if we don't hold the people that
brought these bogus lawsuits accountable, then there it's on us too,
because we need to have that accountability or they will
continue this process.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
Alex Marlow, let me ask you this though, considering Donald
Trump won and one the popular vote as well, I
know the left was just huh. They were so hopeful
that he wouldn't have won the electoral or that he
just only won the electoral college but not the popular vote,
but fortunately the popular vote as well. Don't you think
that might be a reflection of the American people getting
what you're writing about in Breaking the Law, that we

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understood and could see very clearly that this was law fair,
that this was not justified, that it was designed to
keep Trump back on his heels and bankrupt him or
otherwise take away any ability for him to get his
policies and acted or move forward during his administration. We
saw through it.

Speaker 17 (02:00:55):
I think a lot of people did, and I think
it's very encouraging. There's a huge optimism to this book.
I had much more pessimism when I wrote my last book,
Breaking Biden, because I was convinced people were sleepwalking about
some of the Biden family crimes and the fact that
we were vulnerable to get beat by Joe Biden, which
we did. But now with this book, I do feel

(02:01:16):
a lot of optimism that I think most people do
get it, and I think there is a lot of
potential to actually get some investigations and get some accountability.
But then I offered that Russigate warning as well, if
we had gone through russigate, and I actually had the
people who were responsible that they didn't just get MSNBC
and CNN contributorships, but they actually were prevented from doing

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their work, their security appearances pulled early, maybe some of
them even went to jail. Then there wouldn't have been
the lawfair hoax. The lawfair hoax was born in the
Russiagate hoax in US not holding anyone accountable when we
had the chance during the first Trump administration. So we
can't do that again unless we want them to try
the lawfair again, which they will. Maybe it won't work,

(02:01:58):
but it will certainly harass a lot a lot of
people who aren't as rich or as powerful as Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
Yeah. Now this.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
Well, in your book, you said you write around all
the different lawfare cases that's breaking the law, exposing the
weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. And I
guess Alex Morrilow today, is there one that stands out
as the most egregious among all these different cases, Because
again I go back to the real estate thing. We
have two sophisticated parties on either side of the table,

(02:02:26):
both negotiated the terms of conditions of the loan agreement
and Donald Trump paid it off. No one was damaged,
there's no justiciable controversy there. So for me from a
legal perspective, that's that's like the worst of the worst.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
They're all.

Speaker 17 (02:02:39):
They're also horrible. It's really hard, it's really hard to pick.
I mean the the Letitia James case, which is the
one where he apparently had built banks who have super
sophisticated ways of selecting what type of you know, billionaires
they want to loan money to. Not one of them
had to complain Trump, and then she got him assesssed

(02:03:03):
a nearly half a billion dollar penalty for a victimless
crime that wasn't even a crime. It was a civil court.
That's going to be high up there. How about Jack Smith,
whose appointment was unconstitutional and got to harass Trump during
an election for eighteen months and leaked stuff to the
Washington Post. His job didn't exist, and yet he was
allowed to operate. It's almost like an office space sketch

(02:03:24):
where it's he's not even supposed to be here, like
he doesn't have a real job, and yet he kept
getting a paycheck and subpoena power and was able to
just harass them when in Trump's orbit until but dawned
on people, Oh yeah, this is not a real job.
This is cooked. Those are pretty high up there. But still, Brian,
I think my answer is lead the case with the
lowest stakes. The Egen Carroll case is another civil case

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where this woman spun this completely absurd web that was
almost exactly the plot of a Law and Order episode
about Trump that never would have happened in a million years,
at least according to my logic. I want to be
careful there so I don't get sued for defamation by
the great Egene Carol. It was cooked up by George Conway,
who the anti Trump legal pundit, and funded by Reed Hoffman,

(02:04:12):
the Lincoln billionaire, and Biden Crowney, who was at the
White House five times in twenty twenty two alone. It
was their idea to push her to do this. Her
story is just not only absurd, it's also X rated,
and it makes you feel like by the end that
she probably needs maybe to be institutionalized. And yet with

(02:04:33):
no witnesses, they got assessed damages six x what Trump
even whatever what she asked for she asked her fifteen million,
They end up with a ninety million dollars judgment against Trump,
even though the story was completely ridiculous. The judge was
intervening in the case, trying to make it seem even
more severe than than the witness, and that to me

(02:04:54):
was actually maybe the worst of it all, just in
terms of pure we're going to get this guy, We're
going to conspire to get him. That one might even
be the worst in.

Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
The other ones, well, you know, especially, I mean when
you're talking about a judge actively getting involved in going
after Trump, that is that's a broken legal system right there.

Speaker 17 (02:05:12):
Exactly right, that's the title of the book, and that
he really does. And I have a tease view and
then a breaker dot com if you guys go to
my byline, but I go through Judge Luis A. Kampelin
there where he really goes out of his way to
be just incredibly mean to Trump, and it's just so
mean spirited. In his attorneys he is threatening to throw

(02:05:33):
Alena Habba in a dungeon like not just a jail,
like an underground jail. I mean, that's what he was
doing during that case. It's just completely ridiculous. This is
allowed to go on.

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
It is and you're right, read all about it and
breaking the law. From my guess, Alex Marlow, who is
the editor in chief at Breitbart, real quick before we
part company, one final question, Alex, is there any possibility
of accountability for those responsible for well violating the law
by going after Trump?

Speaker 17 (02:05:57):
A perfect way to wind up, because it's going to
be on your audience, my audience to get this done.
But yes, and we're starting to see it. Jacksmith on
an investigation, Latitia James on investigation. Those would probably be
my first two. I lay out maybe half a dozen
to a dozen essential investigations and need to take place,
But the first two are already happening. So we're getting results here.
And the investigations will serve a purpose because it will

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make life very difficult for some of the bad guys,
but hopefully some of them actually bear some fruit. But
I go through and I have a teasy again at
Bryper dot com, so you guys can get a little
bit there. Hopefully all pick up the book. You will
like it. But we need to have those investigations and
that accountability, and we can. We've got the power to
do it. We get another three and a half years
minimum of run away to do it. So let's go

(02:06:41):
do it. Let's go get this accountability that Trump and
Trump's voters deserve. They tried to rig the election to
steal it from you, you and the audience listening right now.
They tried to steal the election from you, and they're
still out there working against you. And I think that
we need to move quickly and show some accountability and
we can do it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
Ending on a note of optimism, much like the book
Breaking the Law. By my guest here today, Alex Marlow
from Breitbart, thank you for all that you do all
the time at bright Bart. Alex Marlow. Look forward to
having you back on the program really soon, and I'll
encourage my listeners to go to fifty five krs dot
com to get a copy of your book as well
as Breitbart dot com.

Speaker 17 (02:07:13):
Get your comments right, he said, an excellent job and
thanks are always grabbing us on.

Speaker 3 (02:07:17):
My distinct pleasure, my friend. Look for to next Tuesday
in another segment with breit Bart eight twenty one, Right
now if you five krsite talk station. Another segment with
Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis with a deep
dive coming up next fifty five car the talk station,
and that is a twenty nine If if you five karsde
talk station, we'll just go ahead and dispatch trafficking weather

(02:07:38):
and dive right on into it. It is time for
the Daniel Davis Deep Dive, my friend retired Lieutenant Colonel
Daniel Davis, offering his weekly analysis on mostly the wars
going on in the world. Welcome back, Daniel Davis. It's
great to have you on. I understand we caught you
off guard. You're traveling right now. Apologize for that.

Speaker 7 (02:07:55):
Oh no, I'm.

Speaker 18 (02:07:56):
Sorry we didn't coordinate schedules better, but I'm grateful to
have a chance to.

Speaker 7 (02:08:00):
Be audio today.

Speaker 3 (02:08:02):
Well, and that's fine. I know you and I are
normally looking at each other, so I am right now
saluting you as I normally do when we see each
other on video. So rest of show, and you know,
I recommend my listeners again it's Daniel Davis Deep Die.
Find his podcast always fascinating and interesting and insightful. Okay,
So we had the meeting Trump and uh and Putin,
and we had the meeting with Trump and Zelensky and

(02:08:23):
then Trump and Plunzansky and the European leaders. Nothing ultimately resolved.
No end of the conflict. But what has got me
concerned Daniel Davis and I just wanted to jump right
into this security guarantees that we're willing to provide. Now,
he did not say Trump that we would put boots
on the ground, but he didn't say we wouldn't. He's

(02:08:43):
previously said something along those lines. But security guarantees are assured.
Security assurances from what the European peacekeepers have said, includes
military presence, air defense, armaments, monitoring, a cessation of hostilities.
All this design to act as a you know, a
foil to Vladimir maybe deciding to go back into Ukraine
and sometime after some deal is negotiated. I'm sorry, Daniel Davis.

(02:09:06):
I'm not one that's inclined to want to have a
permanent military presence in any way, shape or form, in
the United States or in Ukraine. How is it that
we are expected to provide at significant expense, any one
of these components.

Speaker 7 (02:09:21):
I don't know, Brian.

Speaker 18 (02:09:22):
That's That's one of the things that just really puzzled me,
is that why we would even be talking about that,
because here to Moore, we have said no, no security guarantees,
no NAT's on the table. And now all of a sudden,
it's on the table now. Cording to Steve Witkoff, he
claims that when he went to talk to Foot the
Wednesday before the Trump meetings, happened was that he said

(02:09:44):
they had relative concurrence conceptually with Russia, which surprised me
by saalf that Russia would be willing to contemplate a
security guarantee when they had been against it before.

Speaker 7 (02:09:55):
But everything islacked.

Speaker 18 (02:09:56):
I've talked about to the Devil's into details and the definitions.
What if when they think security guarantees, what do we
mean when we say security guarantees? And what does Zolenski think?
Because I promise you all three of those are different.
We're thinking more like consultations and if you know, if
somebody gets attacked, then there'll be considerations, et cetera. And

(02:10:20):
Zelensky is thinking Article five NATO, everybody's gonna come white
for me, right, And of course he would love that.
That would be fabulous for him if you got that
be a major victory. But nobody, Brian, I'm gonna just
tell you categorically, nobody, not America, not Germany, not France,
the UK. Nobody is going to go fight a war
on behalf of Ukraine against the nuclear armed country. This

(02:10:42):
is all the theater, it's fiction. People are just saying
whatever they want. But when it comes down to brass tacks,
I promise you nobody will fight for you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
Right well, And if history is our guide, attacks on
American military forces or is the case maybe they mean
NATO forces tend to result in attacks against whoever at them.
So isn't it like if we have boots on the
ground there, If NATO has boots on the ground in
order to keep this piece, if the Russians were stupid
enough to launch an attack and killed some service members
that are trying to keep the peace there, doesn't it

(02:11:12):
de facto kick in Article five because of the inevitable
reaction from those who got the attack.

Speaker 18 (02:11:19):
Will It wouldn't inevitably do that because the Article five
has to specifies that it's an attack on somebody else,
not because you put troops into harm's way and then
they ended up getting hit, So.

Speaker 7 (02:11:30):
It wouldn't be clear then.

Speaker 18 (02:11:31):
But also let me specify the actual article vibe itself
still does not automatically trigger a military response. It only
automatically triggers consultations and the article. The Washington Treaty that
established the Article VIB in nineteen forty nine says that
each country will then have to go to its parliament

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or Congress to just not how they're going to react.
So there is a lot of regal room even in
the current Article VIBE of NATO, but they'll be even
the less willingness to use force. For you, I just
I just can't strongly reinforce this. Nobody is going to
have their people dot and risk a nuclear taxic. It's
to their country for Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
Right, Okay, And you know that obviously that that Article
five does not eradicate the necessity of Congress to enact
the declaration of war.

Speaker 18 (02:12:21):
Correct, That is one hundred percent correct. Our constitution still
hells sway good.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
All right, Now, back to Vladimir Putin, if he is
willing to allow for these so called security guarantees, let's
just say, you know, everybody's in agreement. It's not Article five,
but it's some presence military or otherwise by European Union countries,
in the United States, or some combination of all of them.
If he's willing to accept that does not doesn't that
suggest that he's not interested in reopening this conflict down

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the road.

Speaker 7 (02:12:49):
That is one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 18 (02:12:51):
It couldn't be more strongly in agreement there too, and
that was get reiterated during the Trump voting meeting, where
he says, look, we're looking to improve security are business
relationships with both the United States and Europe. That's why,
in addition to their military and for policy people that
they brought to that meeting, they brought a lot.

Speaker 7 (02:13:10):
Of business people. They don't want a war. They want to.

Speaker 18 (02:13:14):
Get back to normalized relations and to have business going on,
to re establish business contacts. That's what they're looking for.
They also want to get back into the nuclear arms
reduction treaty talks, the last of which will expire in February.
So they're focused on everything besides conquering Europe, which is
absurd and it's always been observed, but now Russia is

(02:13:35):
putting actions behind.

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
It fair enough now in terms of this multi step
process that's currently in place, Putin's going to meet with
Zelensky and then the three of them puting Trump and
Zelunsky and get together to meet at some future date.
Considering Russia's rather hardline position, with the exception of potential
concessions on security agreement. They haven't really waivered though they

(02:13:57):
still want that Dunnets a region of the country which
they control seventy six percent of and Ukraine doesn't want
to give it up. But there was some suggestion that
Ukraine might be willing to make some land concessions. I mean,
where do you see this going? If you had to
read some tea leaves Daniel Davis.

Speaker 7 (02:14:13):
Yeah, there's no question. And you saw if you.

Speaker 18 (02:14:16):
Saw that that famous picture from the Old Office with Trump,
that black and a white one where Trump sitting there
pointing to the map with Selenski in it, I mean,
it gets clear you're gonna have to give It's not
even an option, right if you want the United States
you have to stay with you. You're going to give
up some plan. The only question is how much. And
here's the thing that you know. It's good that they

(02:14:37):
have these mixed conversations because that's diplomacy. It's always uh,
you know, difficulty, it's always time consuming you longer than
you want. And it's good that they're talking. So I'm
that's a positive thing. But everybody needs to understand Russia
is still in the military dominant position and they don't
have to give in on any of their core demands, and.

Speaker 7 (02:14:55):
I don't think they're going to.

Speaker 18 (02:14:57):
So there's going to be territory given up in the
It's going to be important to Russia's requirements and their
security guarantees, or the fighting will simply.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Keep going, fud keep going. And some are suggesting, and
I read this in several places Daniel Davis before we
part company, that this negotiation process there is no ceasefire.
Let's not call it a ceasefire, call it whatever you want,
but this longer term negotiation process is going to continue
while Russia continues to make advances on the lines in Ukraine.

Speaker 18 (02:15:24):
That's exactly I actually made that point of battic yesterday
morning on our show before we went before the meeting happened,
that Russia has completely said.

Speaker 7 (02:15:33):
Repeatedly that they are willing to negotiate.

Speaker 18 (02:15:36):
And talk however long it takes, but they will not
stop fighting until there's an agreement. And you see overnight
again they had some pretty substantial attacks air attacks into Ukraine.
The attacks on the frontline continue without any change. That
that's going to continue on because Russia wants to keep
putting pressure on the Western side to show Hey, if
you don't accommodate us with what we want, this will continue.

(02:15:59):
And you know, oh Matt applause in war, and eventually
this will come to a zero sum for your side.

Speaker 3 (02:16:05):
Daniel Davis, thoughtful and insightful analysis. As always, I really
appreciate your willingness to come on in spit to the
fact that you're behind the wheel. Be careful in your travels,
my friend, and we'll get together next Tuesday for another
discussion we're doing.

Speaker 7 (02:16:17):
Brian, thanks for making time for us.

Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
Take care brother, It's always my pleasure to do so.
Eight thirty Coming up at eight thirty eight fifty five
krc DE Talk station. Hope you can stick around. One
of the great doctors at oh what's microphone problems? Apologies,
great doctors at ohg's going to join the program coming
up next week to learn about the gamma knife. What
is the gamma knife and what's it used for? And

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OHC apparently the only facility around that actually employs this technology.
We'll hear from doctor Courtney Heinz or Hents rather coming
up shortly. Be right back.

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A very happy Tuesday to you. Oh I love when
the doctors from OHC come in to the studio talk
about all these advancements and treatments, give me great optimism
about treatment for cancer. We will find a cure thanks
to the good people at OHC and their clinical trials
and all the other researching been going on out there.
Luck have welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show,
doctor Courtney Hence brain cancer and of course precision matters

(02:18:18):
when you're trying to deal with brain cancer. Apparently one
of the most advanced treatments out there is called gamma
knife radiosurgery, which I'm reading now, non invasive procedure, highly
targeted radiation to burn to brain tumors, and OHC the
only provider of gamma knife treatment in our region. So
doctor Courtney Hens a radiation oncologist and one of the

(02:18:38):
great doctors at OHC and one of the expert physicians
that does this life changing procedure. Doctor Hens, great to
see you. Thanks for coming to the studio today.

Speaker 11 (02:18:47):
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (02:18:48):
So, you guys, are it at cutting edge? This isn't
it really a knife?

Speaker 11 (02:18:53):
No, it's not. It's a very focused kind of radiation
that we give to tumors in the brain own I
fit on, no cutting, no incisions, and it's a great
way to deliver high doses of radiation to tumors to
try to kill them off.

Speaker 3 (02:19:07):
So unlike the old way where you just sort of
nuke the entire body, this allows you to concentrate that
radiation to one spot.

Speaker 11 (02:19:15):
Yes, that's right. It's very precise. We're talking down to
the millimeter, and it allows us to give very high
doses to our targets while sparing the normal, healthy brain
tissue around it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:26):
How quickly does this work? I mean how quick is
the result?

Speaker 11 (02:19:30):
Typically we're re scanning or repeating an MRI on patients
anywhere two to three months after, sometimes a little longer
depending on what we're treating, and usually by that first
scan we're already seeing results.

Speaker 14 (02:19:42):
No kidding, Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
How many treatments does a person normally have to undergo
to deal with I guess in many cases two mers
as opposed to eat two mer or it works in
both cases.

Speaker 11 (02:19:52):
Sure. So the most common treatment that I offer patients
is when their cancer has started somewhere else in the
body and has spread to the brains. Cheese and usually
those lesions are quite small, so we can take care
of them with radiosurgery, and generally the most common way
to give it is over one treatment, really one day

(02:20:13):
outpatient procedure. We work very closely with our neurosurgical colleagues
at Mayfield Brain and Spine and through our collaboration with
Mercy Health at Jewish Hospital where we deliver the treatment.

Speaker 3 (02:20:26):
Well, that's great. Now, I don't want to deviate from
the brain tumor issue here. It's very important. Clearly, can
that gamma knife be used for the other cancers that
have caused them atastasize the brain cancer.

Speaker 11 (02:20:38):
That's a good question. So gamma knife radiosurgery is only
used in the brain, sometimes the upper spine. But there
are other very similar versions of radiation called radiosurgery that
we can deliver with our other radiation treatment machines that
can do a very similar process to other spots O Cattie.

Speaker 3 (02:20:56):
So there's another vehicle to do the same kind of thing.
So we're still not nuking the entire body and radiating
everything and glowing the dark kind of stuff. That's good now,
I mean success rate before we I'm going to ask
you about the symptom or the actually the kind of
some of the problems that go along with it, like
risks and that. But in terms of success rate for

(02:21:17):
treating the brain cancers, the tumors, what are you seeing
in this?

Speaker 11 (02:21:21):
Yeah, So in general, when we're treating small lesions, which
is the most common thing we treat with this, success
rates of control are ninety percent plus, so very high.

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
Yeah, oh that's amazing. So what about side effects? We
all know about chemotherapy and all that and what it does.
Hair falls out, you're weak, you vomit, just it's a
nasty experience I have to go through. I presume that
you don't have any of that with this kind of treatment.

Speaker 11 (02:21:45):
Thankfully, with how precise the treatments are, the side effect
profile is very low. So the day of the treatment,
patients can feel tired and sometimes a couple of days thereafter,
but rarely are they having additional side effects like other
neurologic issues headaches, seizures, very rarely, and we do things
to keep those side effects very low.

Speaker 3 (02:22:06):
Well, and is it safe to call this non invasive?
There's no cutting, there's no absolutely.

Speaker 11 (02:22:11):
Yeah. So, despite the confusing name of gamma knife, no
knives involved, no incisions. It's an outpatient procedure, typically done
in one day and patients go home. And I've had
plenty of patients return to work the following day.

Speaker 3 (02:22:26):
And so side effects, I'm headaches, fatigue, not that big
of a deal. So I don't want to thankfully understated
for someone like I had Gammon knife. They'll tell me
it's not that big of a deal. So who's eligible
for this treatment? I mean this is like, this is new.
I mean we're talking new treatment.

Speaker 11 (02:22:44):
Yeah, so gamma knife has been around for some time,
but we keep getting better and better about how precise
we can give the treatments and spare the normal healthy
brain tissue. So patients who are eligible, most common that
I see are those with brain metastases, so I can
cancer that has spread from somewhere else to the brain
where we're trying to only target those lesions themselves. So

(02:23:07):
it depends a little bit on what kind of cancer
it is, how large or small the lesions are, and
sometimes cancers that have started in the brain are primary
brain tumors can be eligible for gamma knife, but more
commonly those are treated with another form of radiation, and
these are Gamma knife is a great treatment for lesions

(02:23:29):
and hard to reach areas where surgery is not indicated.

Speaker 3 (02:23:32):
Okay, because you can see them on like an image,
you know exactly and get deep into I presume all
this is computer operated. You can focus exactly where that
little tumor happens to be. So yep, absolutely all right. Now,
I've been speaking and supporting the cure starts now for
more than a decade. The story behind how that got

(02:23:53):
started as such a heartbreaker. You got this five year
old girl who dies geoblastoma, and there's not a lot
of research on it because it's so deadly, it happens
so quickly. Is there any hope that this kind of
treatment maybe can be expanded to go after that type
of brain cancer?

Speaker 11 (02:24:07):
Yeah, So we actually do use gammonife radiosurgery sometimes in glioblastemas.
More commonly, the first step of treatment for those is
a longer, more protracted radiation course. But you know, if
it recurs or comes back depending on where and when.
Sometimes we are bringing this method in to treat just

(02:24:28):
the small areas where it's trying to come back with
good control results of that.

Speaker 3 (02:24:32):
Okay, and considering this as a developing technique or practice
or treatment. Do you see it expanding down the road
to deal with more types of cancers, like other solid cancers,
because you know, I mean this sounds miraculous right.

Speaker 11 (02:24:44):
Now, absolutely so in a good way. Our cancer patients
are living longer, yeah, with great systemic therapy options immunotherapy,
and so as patients live longer, sometimes they pop up
with new spots that if it's just one or two,
we use this very focused version of radiation, whether it's

(02:25:04):
in the brain or elsewhere in the body, to control
the quote problem child that's trying to grow through therapy.
So radiation used in conjunction with their systemic therapy options
are absolutely helping patients stay alive longer and stay on
their therapy that they're otherwise tolerating.

Speaker 3 (02:25:20):
Well, all right, well, and I think you may have
already a dressed this with your comments about the other
subject of questions I asked. But in terms of recovery
time and everything is just as light years ahead of
traditional surge. I mean, because sure, brain surgery, you know
you're going into the skull, you're digging. I think you
just have this horror show of people digging around in
my brain and trying to ferret something out, especially when

(02:25:42):
you're talking about real teeny weeny little cancers, leaving a
surgeon to sort of find it in spite of all
the images and everything they might have. That's a bit
of a crapshoot in and of itself, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (02:25:52):
Yeah, And our neurosurgeons that we work with are excellent
in their craft, and they actually are very involved in
the radiation planning and treatments for these gamma knife procedures,
and the recovery for patients compared to traditional surgeries in general,
is much faster. Again, it's typically done in one day,

(02:26:14):
maybe even a half a day, and they're going home
that same day and back to feeling relatively normal that
following day.

Speaker 3 (02:26:21):
Now, this gammon knife is not considered experimental. I mean,
this is standard of care level stuff now, So this
isn't a clinical trial setting, is it.

Speaker 11 (02:26:30):
No. Absolutely, it's standard of care for small metastases in
the brain, as long as there are not too many
and we can appropriately target all the small ones there
and sometimes even if there are more larger ones, we
can treat it instead of doing it over one treatment.
It might be as many as five treatments.

Speaker 3 (02:26:49):
Okay, but still I'm going with the optimistic note on this.
This is just amazing stuff and it's always amazing at OHC.
These are my cancer doctors. I put my health and
my life in their hands. I've gotten wonderful treatment there,
and I've recommended him for years because if you treat
my other if the other cancer sufferers like you treat me,
they're in great hands. So get in touch with OHC.

(02:27:10):
If you have a cancer diagnosis, you want a second opinion,
or you need to speak with a cancer doctor, give
him a shout at eight eight eight six forty eight
hundred eight eight eight six four nine forty eight hundred,
or visit the website learn a lot more there. It's
ohcare dot comohcare dot com. You're in great hands, doctor Courtney. Hence,
it is a real pleasure meeting you. What an exciting

(02:27:31):
treatment option for folks dealing with probably one of the
more problematic cancers, brain cancer. This is great stuff.

Speaker 11 (02:27:37):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for letting me speak
about the wonderful treatment option we have for patients.

Speaker 3 (02:27:42):
I love it gives me hope and optimism for the
future every time. That's why I love having you in here.
Ohhcare dot com folks, you didn't get a chance to
listen live early in the program Bring him account our
energy expert. He was in for several segments talking about
energy policy. Guys, brilliant at what he does. Get the
podcast fifty five care see dot com Course The INSIGHT's
Go with Alex Marlow, editor in chief there Breitbart on

(02:28:02):
his new book, Breaking the Law, exposing the weaponization of
America's legal system against Donald Trump. Scary stuff, although it's
very optimistic in the book, there is still hope out
there for everybody. And finally, Daniel Davis Deep Dive caught
him off guard in the car, but we first got
his insight and his analysis of the current situation involving
the negotiations for peace between Russia and Ukraine. Call me

(02:28:25):
Jada and Senecal. Yes that's a okay. But what we
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a great day. Tune in tomorrow. I will not be
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(02:28:46):
out to a concert tonight, so I'm going to be
up late, having a good time and sleeping in tomorrow.
So Gary Jeff, thank you if you're out there, appreciate
your covering for me. The return of Joe Strekker, and
thanks as always to Sean McMahon covering the show for
Joe Streker taking a few days off. Have a great day, folks.
Don't go Wey Glembe's coming up next.

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