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Fifty five k r C the talk station Serious and
in my work week, Happy Tuesday, see Thanksgiving before that vacation,

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and if Strucker was here, we do a woo hoo
because it's effectively Friday for me, and I'm looking forward
to having the extra time off Thanksgiving. Dearly love. As
I've mentioned a million times before, with the coming up
on number twenty years in radio, jeesu es, I can't
believe I've been on radio that long. Anyway, I can't
believe I'm sixty either. I hope you're having a wonderful
day so far as always, feel free to give me
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you can get the Christopher Smith event if it was updated.
We don't have an update on that though this morning.
I guess because Strekker is not here. That's okay, Sean,
know what expectations you need to do that, But if

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you want go ahead and have that in Monday Monday's
Brian James Conversation from yesterday Today though a special edition.
It's not Friday, it's Tuesday, but we're gonna do Tech
Tuesday with Dave Hatter and some special Black Friday information
how to not get scammed on Black Friday. Plus he
has some suggestions for some cool tech gadgets and gifts

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this year. Are the Internet of Things connected devices? If
they are, I'll be shocked if he recommends them, dannyhow
Dave Hatter coming up at six thirty. Congressman Warren Davidson
returned to seven oh five. Ben, I don't even know
where to begin with Congressman Davidson, so many topics to
go over with him. I can't thank him enough for
coming on the show. Really appreciate him, and I think
he's one of the better men we've got in Congress

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right now. Briga McCowan Hudson Institute Professor at Miami University.
He is an energy policy expert. We're going to get
the latest on energy policies and he will be in
studio and he's also the host of the charged what
is it charge Policies? Charge? I can't remember podcast anyway,
BRIGHI account will be in studio talk about that inside

(02:15):
Scoop with Bright Barton. News Today Tech editor Colin Maydine returns,
this is an awesome development. Elon Musk is now labeling
the location where people who post on X are actually located.
I'll get to some details on that in a minute,
because I am elated about this development because it confirmed
something I've been saying on the radio without confirmation for years,

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which is, you are being manipulated on social media by
foreign adversaries. Guess what you are. No, that's not some
guy in Texas who's on X saying some guy in
Texas making posts about Trump, Maga, the divisions in the
United States, racist posts, whatever. No, it's some Oh I
almost said an FCC non compliant word. That was close. Yep.

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That would have been bad, wouldn't it. I just I
went for a I caught myself, but I asked for
a reading from Sean McMahon, who's covered for Joe, and yeah,
I got to chuck a lot of them anyhow. No,
it's some random dude in pick a country, Bangladesh. There's
lots of them from India, Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates,
and of course some of our more prominent enemies like

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the Chinese Communist Party. Yeah, they're the ones that are
sturing the pott of division in this country on social media.
And Elon Musk is just one guy doing on one platform.
I want this kind of feature on TikTok again. We'll
get to the details of that minute, because I cannot
wait TOI Ledo fight to talk about it. Plus we'll
talk about the Meta had shut down its internal research

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which showed in fact, social media is dangerous. You know,
this reminds me of the tobacco company litigation, you know,
their internal studies. At least, as I recall the facts
of that, tobacco companies knew that their products were dams
for years, yet they hid the research and they did
everything they could to tell you that no, don't believe
what they're saying, that some cigarettes aren't as bad as

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they're telling you. Well, they hit internal research which showed
the exact opposite of what was coming out of their
mouth as one of the reasons they were found liable.
So Meta, rather than get the conclusive data, shut down
its internal research which was starting to show that it
was dangerous for our children, among others, and Jesu Louis
do I have a terrible shit if you get a minute,
because I don't know if I'll be able to get
to it. Here's important reading for anyone who has anybody

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in their world, their sphere of influence, who perhaps is
under the age of eighteen. Teens are saying tearful goodbyes
to their AI companions. That is the headline Wall Street Journal.
Georgia Wells, author of the article chatbot maker Character AI
just one of the chatbots, is cutting off access to teens,

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citing mental health concerns and the accounts of these teenagers
and how much time they spend interc acting with artificial
intelligence as their friends. This stuff is so real that
I guess they lose connection with reality. That they're talking
to ones and zero's artificially generated contact, and they're connected
to it, and they like need it and long for it.

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And now they find out that they're fake friends online.
These characters that they create and talk to for hours
and hours at a time are being cut off and
they're struggling emotionally. Oh my god, I'm not gonna be
able to interact with character AI anymore. Yeah, You're not
gonna be an interact with a computer anymore. Do you
feel they do feel a sense of longing and belonging

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because they're interacting with effectively no one. This is scary,
scary stuff, you know. And the more disconnected a child is,
the fewer friends a child has, the more socially awkward
a child has, the more blankly is going to be
brought here or she is going to be sucked into
this reality. God bless America. We are heading down a

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wrong path here, and talk a lot about that today.
We'll get a little bit of information from Dave Hatter
at six point thirty on that one as well. That
is with Charge Conversations that finally popped back of my head.
Idiot Brian Thomas. That's Brighan mccowan's podcast, Better late than ever.
And of course the Daniel Davis A deep dive where
are we the uh what was it? Twenty four point

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plan then whittled down to a nineteen point plan. Then
we find out that Kremlin says, now, that's just one
of many things going on. We of course have h
has Bala and Hamas with seemingly two different positions from
the United States relative to what Israel is doing by
way of strategy, relative to Moss and Guy and has Bala,

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so Daniel Davis at least on those two topics that
will be at eight thirty and again five three seven
four ninety eight hundred two three talk pound five fifty
on EIGHTT and T founds over to Elon Musk and please,
Dear God, will all the uh, the tiktoks and every
other company on social media provide this feature so you
and I can get those reality. He put out a

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new feature on x which shows the location where an
account is operating from AH, noting the many anonymous accounts
claiming to be for example, Maga pushing division within the
conservative movement, operated by folks in India, Pakistan as well

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as other nations, hum and on these so called popular influencers.
And it always blows my mind how many people will
follow these various quote unquote influencers, random people with just
opinions that randomly pop up. Turns out they're not who
they say they are. Most have been claiming to be
Americans for years.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Mmmm.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So Musk rolls out these new features that displays more
information about the accounts, including the country of origin where
they are based in Somebody's out there going but what
about a VPN. Yeah, they got to work around for
that too. All you need to do if you're an
EX user go to the account's profile, click on the
date that the account quote unquote joined the platform, that

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takes you to and what they call an about page,
which shows additional details about the poster, the person posting
the account information. So on Sunday when it was rolled out,
everybody on actual least a lot of them started sharing
scream thoughts when they found out that all these people,
many of whom claimed to be part of the MAGA movement,
that are sewing division and infighting within the MAGA movement

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actually based in well, among others, India, Nigeria, Bangladesh.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
One commentator who knew that an Austrian has been running
a Republicans against Trump psyop page, he said, this new
feature has to be one of my favorite ones EX
has ever added. Amen, watch the petty infighting stop and
other foreign countries aren't pushing slop under cover of anonymity.
Amen to that. I shared a screen shot about a

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page for the popular were described as popular. I guess
nine hundred and seventy eight thousand plus users or followers
makes it quote unquote popular. It's labeled Republicans against Trump,
and it's based in Austria. So after being caught, I
went I mentioned a VPN A moment ago. They say

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accounts posing as US citizens started using a VPN account
to appear as if they are in the United States.
If you're not familiar with VPNs, they're pretty genius. So
let's say, for example, you're sitting in a state where
they've banned access to online pornography for people under the
age of eighteen, requiring a verification. Let's say that state
is all pick one, Kentucky. You're in Kentucky. Your IP

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address shows you're in Kentucky. If you log into a VPN,
you can choose literally any country in the war. Not
literally any country, but almost any country in the world.
To pretend is if you're well logging in and out
from that, the IP address shows up there. So Illinois
doesn't have a prohibition against younger people on the age
of eighteen logging into porn sites. Just pretend you're in

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Chicago and you won't be faced with the challenge anymore.
Same thing here, you're in Bangladesh. You're stirring the pot
of division. Well, just make it look like you're in
Texas with a VPN. So with that in mind, they started, well,
there's an they put an exclamation point next to the
account's location. So if you see an exclamation point under

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that information page, they're using a VPN. How about that
exclamation point next to the United States in the about
page for that for example, Republicans against Trump account shows
that at the time of the writing, the account was
using a VPN. If there's no exclamation point, the user
is seeing the real location for the account. So when

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you're going through this feature you see an exclamation point,
red flag, maybe not follow that particular person, or at
least enter into the realm of open eyes, knowing full
well that that person maybe in North Korea or something.
Accorded to one who wrote one of the most openly
racist accounts toward Indians, posing an American has actually run

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from Bangladesh, showed the screenshot of the about page for
an account dubbed America first sixty seven thousand, almost sixty
eight thousand followers is actually in Bangladesh. There's an account
Maga is dead ninety three thousand followers located in Europe somewhere.

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Call you old fashioned, but I don't think folks from
foreign countries should be allowed to vote in our election.
This ex account called Warhamster twenty three thousand followers, wrote
one user equipped man, you don't even have elections, then
showed the screenshot of where the account is. The United
Arab Emirates guy posting a Congo Leese man, our tax

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money goes to Israel. He's not an American citizen. He's
stirring the potted division over Israel our tax money. You're
in Congo Man one hundred and twenty eighty six hundred
followers on x for that one, alongside the screenshot one
of the posts which reads, Israel is a terrorist state
funded with our taxpayer money. No it isn't. You're not

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an American citizen. Say what you want, hot stir. Last year,
this MAGA account was berating me for not living on
a reservation. Well, it turns out they were in Nigeria
the whole time, one pointed out, sharing a screenshot of
the Mega Scope that's the name of the account boasting

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fifty one thousand followers on X based in Yes, Nigeria.
Ed Wokeness apparently a popular US actually US based ex
account who provided some commentary after revealing that the large
anti Trump account called ron Smith self deleted after it

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being revealed that the account was in Kenya. It boasted
nearly fifty three thousand followers. I'm giving props to Breitbart
for providing this information, although it wasn't Colin Maydine Alan
Master Angelow doing the reporting on this breaking. American guy
is not actually an American guy. It's the American Voice account.

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Screenshot guy claims to be living in Florida. The account
in India, Maga Nation account three hundred and ninety two
thousand followers based in a non EU Eastern European country.
You may have heard a conservative commentator Matt Wall. She

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was sharing a popular account called Israel exposed, coming in
at about one hundred and hundred and eighty five thousand
followers based in Saudi Arabia. Wal said this quote unquote
conservative account has been relentlessly stoking in fighting for months now.

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Not American, no surprise. One account posting eighty eighty one
hundred followers actually based in Romania. One conservative writer how
did they vote for Trump? In Macedonia? One European based account,
it exclaimed, I do not care what anyone says. Trump

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is doing exactly what I voted for and more. I
am proud to be ultra maggot again Macedonian account. You
see what I'm saying here, You see what's being revealed here.
Remember one social media platform, and there are probably hundreds,
if not thousands, of these accounts post divisive pots, stirring

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posts from people who have nothing but a great interest
in seeing that You and I just basically scream and
fight about everything. Pick a topic, there's division over it,
the pot gets stirred, and you hide in your bunker
of insulation looking at accounts that only provide fodder for

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what you believe and are led to believe that there
are one hundreds and thousands, if not millions of people
who share your belief sets. No, actually it's folks in
Bangladesh and elsewhere. Five twenty right now, fifty five KRCD
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talk about, of course coming up, also stack as Stupid,
and then we'll get to Tech Friday or Tech Tuesday
actually at six thirty next hour.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
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I on att phones. AH, got ahead of the bad weather,
thankfully got my grass cut for the final time yesterday.
Always enjoyed that final cut of the year. And I

(16:16):
get to put the lawnmower away till springtime. Speaking of
a little minor tech article in the remaining a couple
of minutes we got here abb some phone calls Representative
Eric Swawell California. He's running for governor of the state
of California, along with a whole bunch of other people.
Here you go. What do you think of this proposal?
Swallaw said Corner of The Washington Examiner, reporting, if we

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can do our taxes, make our healthcare appointments, you know,
essentially do your banking online, you should be able to
vote by phone. I don't see any problems with that,
especially on the heels of that X article. Make it safe,
make it secure. But it's actually already happening all over
the United States. Well that's not necessarily true. There are

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some jurisdictions have done limited to testing of mobile slash
phone based voting, but mainly for military and overseas voters.
It's reported pilot programs tested in West Virginia, Utah, Colorado,
and parts of Alaska. But no one is offering full
vote by phone elections. Why. Security concerns, reliability concerns, and
of course auditing concerns. Everybody out there who thinks there

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should be a formal paper ballot evidence of how you voted,
just in case there's a glitch. Yeah, phone voting wouldn't
provide that. And get a load of this one. It
doubles down on stupid. I want to make a I
want us to max out democracy. Go ahead and use

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your imagination to figure out what the hell that means.
He said. Also, as it relates to democracy, if you
wait in line for thirty minutes or more, if you
do want to vote in person, I think you should
find every county for every minute that a person has
to wait longer. That's a bizarre idea waiting in line

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more than thirty minutes resulting. Okay, you know as dumb
as I think it is conceptually, because who knows. You
go to the polling places. Sometimes you go there's no
one in line. Sometimes you go like during lunch hour
and everybody's there. It's gonna take a little bit longer
to vote. But where's this thirty minutes come from, mister Swallwell?
And what do you do you get? You get a
punch card. When you get in line, you punch a
card like you're timing in it. We're clocking in at work.

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And then when you go to vote, you punch it again.
And if it's over thirty minutes, we're going to write
down the number of minutes that you have waited beyond
thirty and then compile the fines and make the county
pay for it. Now, especially in a time when you
have voluntary poll workers, basically it's an I will call
it an unpaid position because for the eighteen or so
hours you actually work, you aren't paid even minimum wage.

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But that's okay, I considered a voluntary thing. You're doing
your civic duty in public service. You know, we have
a difficult time even filling and getting enough poll workers.
So for lack of people wanting to work the polls,
you might run into a situation where it's going to
take you longer than thirty minutes to vote. Now, whose
fault is that? Is it a problem with the system anyway?

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I don't think he's going to get elected governor. That's
I'm just doing a tea. Leave reading on that one.
Find people or find the counties. Five twenty six fifty
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Either way, we go be right back fifty five the
talk station. That'd be Tuesday. Waiting for the lowdown on

(19:37):
who's covering for me tomorrow. Sean McMahon covering for Joe
Stragger this morning. Why don't you send Joe a text
message or an email see if you can. He's wrangled
somebody to cover for me tomorrow. Ah, without further doo,
let's go to the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine,
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(19:58):
Tom good to hear from you as all always, my friend.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Hey, good morning. First of all, I can confirm that
the rain is not isolated from whole rain all the
way to Middletown.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh, no, it is. I would isolated rain after noontime,
just basically steady rain, steady rain in the morning.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Oh, it's definitely steady.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I believe.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I can also confirm that the gas prices at the
Cincinnati Date Road in seventy five are in the two forties. Oh,
if you if you want to fill up before it
is your big Thanksgiving trip, and you're not too far away,
that's a great place to get guessed. Tomas billed too.
I think I saw one.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
So yeah, I hope diesels. I hope diesel is also
coming down.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Not not as low, not as low as unloaded, but yeah,
it's never.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Ever as low as unlid. I just hope it's going
to commensurate a decrease in price, because of course that
directly impacts a lot of what we eat and consume
because for shipping costs. So yeah, if you're looking for
an inflationary for inflationary relief, there's one right there in front.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Of you, right, And all these companies are just looking
for a good reason to lower their prices in ports,
so that I mean it. It takes a it takes
a shift in the wind for them to raise their prices,
but to bring them down or to stop raising them
is like an act of Congress. In fact, acts of
Congress only make things go up, right.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, exactly, Well, at least at least we have the
Departments of Weights and Measures which prevents the shrink inflation.
A gala gas must be a gallon, you know, it
can't be three quarters of a gallon at a gallon.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
We hope, so yeah, we hope.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So right.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
So, you know, your conversation about these these bots on
x and other social media things make it makes me
think that, you know, question, what what is it we
are basing our opinions on. Each individual person has to
answer this question for themselves and how solid are you

(22:01):
in your opinion? So if you're basing your opinion on
other people's opinions, well you've got a world of trouble there.
Speaking of shifting wins, I mean today, it could be
one day, then you hear something else tomorrow, and oh
my god, that these people think that you have to
come up with a conclusion of your own, and you
do have to listen to other people's opinions. You got

(22:22):
to weigh wigh information and hopefully you're trying to find
trusted sources, but then you got to determine whether or
not the source of information is trustworthy or whatever. So
there's a lot of information out there. One of the
reasons why people decide to stick your head into saying
that don't even pay attention to it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, that is true, but think about the foundation. You
need to engage in what I consider to be a
logical and reasonable exercise when weighing the value of one
opinion or another. If you're talking about matters of the economy,
you've got Kingsan economists, you've got your freedoman economists. You
know your Austrian school of economy. You have to be
able to apply these general concepts. You know the laws

(22:59):
of line demand. If somebody's screaming to you about giving
you stuff and things and saying it's going to be free,
and you don't have enough sense to know that free
is not free. It usually means the taxpayer dollars are
paying for it, then you can't evaluate it from that standpoint.
Ethics and morals also play into it. Is a guy
a woman if they say they are, I would argue,
you know, because I understand about genetics and chromosomes, and

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you can't tell me you can turn yourself into the
opposite sex merely by uttering the words I'm an opposite
I'm the opposite sex. So there's some logical and reasonable application.
Maybe that ethical and moral foundation includes some aspect of religion.
Some of us are born and raised in families with religion,
different religions, different religions, different ethical and moral applications. See,
you gotta be able to apply a foundation to engage

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in this exercise. And basically, from everything I've learned, and
there's another article about it today, our children are not
engaging in the logical exercise. They're not involved in thinking.
They are being told and just provided something without an analysis.
This is why I always argue about the Socratic method
being so valuable and what I love so much about

(24:07):
college and law school. That's how you get into that process,
the back and forth, questioning, pressing the margins, engaging in thought.
Somebody comes up with an idea and you exchange ideas
about that idea. But if you don't have those foundational skills,
you're easily going to be swayed by somebody apparently in Bangladesh.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Yeah, you're easily going to be swayed if all you're
doing is is dealing with your emotions. Yeah, and that's
what that's what these social media platforms, all these news outlets, Yep,
they throw things up there for clickbait because they want
to get your emotions started up.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
All of them do it right, left, center, They all
do it. They all put something up there because oh my,
oh my gosh, look at that. I mean, like, for example,
this morning, I'm looking through news and stuff and I
see on Fox News, I see something about what joy
Behart said. Why should we give a crap what Joy
behar thinks? What has she ever done to make us

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think that? Oh there there's an interesting source of information.
Maybe I might want to see what she has to say. Well, well,
it's just to start our emotions. Look at this idiot.
We I mean, you know, she's she doesn't make any.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Sense at all.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
What is she saying? So let's counter it with whatever?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
You know?

Speaker 5 (25:22):
I mean, it's that's that's all this has turned into.
So you're right, you have to have a foundation that
you started from. And for most of it's it's how
are we brought up? What? What did our What did
we hear our parents saying? Not necessarily, what did they
teach us? Like directly, what did we hear them saying?
And if you grew up in a family and they're
complaining about the government all the time, or they're complaining

(25:43):
about this race of people or that racist people and
they're blaming other people for their lot in life, and
and and they're not being responsible. That's that's you're gonna
lean in that direction when you grow up, become an adult,
and that's gonna be the default reaction that you're gonna
have because that's what you've been hearing your entire childhood.
And so that's that's the thing we got to combat

(26:05):
when we're talking to people. We got to understand, Hey,
this is what we're dealing with, you know with where
where did you come from, how were you raised? Get
to know people if you're going to talk to them,
and and you know, find out what they're all about.
That way you understand, you know what you can say
and can't say, and how you can talk to them.
And by all means, you know, have conversations over to holidays.
You only get so many times running to people. You

(26:27):
don't have to be combative about it, you don't have
to be insulting, but understand that you know where their
people are coming from, so you know, you know to
find a little inroad here and there. And by all means,
please tell people when you talk to them, don't vote
Democrats have a great time off. Brian I'll talk to
you when you get back.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Thanks Tom, I truly appreciate it, and you have a
wonderful Thanksgiving please five point thirty seven right now that
you five KR City talk station, stacker stupid coming up
or phone calls. Either way we go. It's okay with me.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
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Speaker 2 (27:02):
Fiby forty one fifty five fair CD talk station. Find
Thomas inviting phone calls but sitting in front of the
stack and stupid. If I went three seven four nine
to fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk
CONFI fifty on AT and T phone. The entirely joyless
Greta Thunberg. You know, actually on some level I feel
sorry for her, but not much of a level. He's
the angriest joyless, most angry joyless person I think I

(27:27):
can ever come up with. In fact, in my mind,
she's the poster child for a joyless individual. Anyway, she
got busted slap of a forty eight hour band from
entering Venice, Italy. She's a was part of this group
Extinction Rebellion, who decided it was prudent to protest what
they described as climate collapse by dyeing the Grand Canal

(27:51):
in Venice bright green. She's twenty two got fined one
hundred and seventy two bucks along with the other thirty
five demonstrators who were involved in this rebel alion. They
claimed the dye they used was a fluorescent, non toxic
tracer commonly employed in the environment and environmental studies like
tracking water flows, monitoring leaks, or, in the case of

(28:12):
Chicago's celebrating St. Patrick's Day. They claimed the dipos no
ecological threat. Sure looks like an ecological threat when you
have your water fluorescent green. They claim the stunt was
still designed to, in their words, draw attention to the
massive effects of climate collapse. I struggle with that phrase

(28:37):
climate collapse. I mean, it's raining outside, there's still a
climate out there. What would a complete climate collapse look
like where we have no climate? What does that mean? Anyway?
I'm sorry. This protest coincided with the end of coincided
with the end of that cop thirty UN climate conference

(28:59):
where they didn't even co two. At least that's my
boiled down conclusion on that. Yeah, they didn't do anything.
They all flew in, They all tore down the rainforest,
they all burned up tons of carbon flying in and
out of their private jets, and they had nothing to
show for it. They also died fountains around Europe Genoa, Padova, Turin,
Bologna and Toronto. Their banner stop Echo Side was hung

(29:24):
from the rialto bridge in Venice as well. Videto Province
Governor Luca Zia said that Thunberg and this extinction rebellion
stunt was a gesture that risks having consequences for the environment.
He also called.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
It thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
There she is, you can hear it in her voice.
Governor also said the action was the disrespectful act towards
our city, its history and fragility. Greta Thunberg inventing an
act of environmental terrorism. Well, we can call it that,
can't we. She can call what's going on climate collapse.

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I can call dying Venice green a well, act of
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If your friends will be on Facebook, you can actually

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of the paint. This is not something that they did,
but they bought it this way. Most of the painted
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The day to day with Tech Tuesday. Dave Hatter at
six thirty, Congressman Warren Davidson at seven oh five, Bring
him account. Hudson Institute Charge Conversations podcast seven point thirty,
inside scoop of Bright Bardon News eight oh five and
the Daniel Davis steep Dive at eight thirty. Let's see
here back to the stack of stupid. How about this one?
Go to uh Silver, North Carolina, where the police department
said they've arrested a guy after he set a woman

(32:36):
on fire because she didn't get him a beer. Police
dispatch you a domestic dispute on Chippercurve Road. Officers showed
up immediately began the investigation, revealing that Patrick Tyson and
a woman there had a verbal altercation. That's when officers
learned that Tyson had grabbed a bottle of isopropyl alcohol,
poured it on the floor and the couch where she

(32:56):
was sitting, and then set it on fire. Court of
the victim, Tyson said he would set her on fire
if she didn't get him a beer. She didn't. He
then ignited the couch, causing both the couch and her
shirt to catch on fire. Victim burned the shirt said,
The victim said the shirt was sorry. The police said
the victim shirt was burned off of her body. Thankfully,

(33:17):
she didn't sustain any physical injuries. The home, however, suffered
smoke damage, burnt carpet and charred couch, and apparently a
stove also shattered. After this, Tyson guy threw an item
at it during the argument, fire department showed up and
extinguished the flames. Tyson charged with felony assault with deadly
weapon with intent to kill, felony first degree arson mister

(33:40):
greener arson and female, and misdemeanor injury to personal property
taking him before a magistrate went over to the Jackson
Counting Jail under a he wasn't in front of Judge
Silverstein A seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars secured bond idiots.
Let's see A couple of suspected amorous burglars apparently couldn't

(34:05):
wait till they got home, decided to have a little
tryst during a break in and ended up arrested at
the corner of the police. This described as X rated
incident unfolded in the early hours of October twenty fifth
at Moncherie Restaurant, Scottsdale, Arizona, Brian Morrow and Carrissa Sukinik.

(34:29):
At least that looks like how it's pronounced apparently forced
their way inside the restaurant to steal money from the
cash register, but as soon as the activity began, as
soon as they broke into the restaurant, that's when they
decided to well get it on. Cop said the pair
was caught on the surveillance video camera, Yes, says doing

(34:51):
the nasty. What do you think that means? John doing
the nasty? Then they apparently scattered fl hours everywhere and
then ransacked the bar before leaving. Employees discovered the restaurant
had been burglarized after coming to work the next day,
telling local media they stole about four hundred and fifty
bucks from the register. They also made a discovery yes

(35:11):
the security footage which shows the couple having sex with
their faces in full view of the camera, allowing the
Scott's out to Police Department detectives to easily identify Moro
and the second egg woman by viewing the footage and
gathering tips from the community, They arrested the two for
burglary and booked them into the Maricopa County Jail. What

(35:35):
do you think word's going to get fully out that
there are video cameras pretty much literally everywhere you are,
whatever you're doing is going to be caught on a
video camera. We have to walk there. What was that inhabited?
One more time? Thank you, Sean's in on the joke. Okay,

(36:02):
don't snort ketamine for five years in a row for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, or you're going to pee out your bladder. Yes,
that's exactly what happened. A person described as a tradesman
was addicted to ketamine, and that addiction so severe he
would snort lines for breakfast while operating machinery at work,
and this went on for a long time. Alex Logan
thirty one and said he would sniff ketamine off his

(36:22):
phone on the way to work, and then, of course,
being a tradesman, would be climbing scaffolding, driving scissors, lists,
all under the influence seven grams a day ketamine habit
described as eventually shredding his bladder so badly he had
to curl up like a fetus on the shower floor
just to yearnate. Everyone was aware of this, family and

(36:45):
friends noted his problem. He was a self confessed dangerous,
ridiculous behavior. He knew he was doing badly, but he
just continued to do it, calling him an addict wasn't
until Alex started feeling unusual pains in his back and bladder.
He began to recognize how damaging this ket addiction was.
Developing alternative cistitis, which is the shedding of the bladder

(37:06):
lining until it's effectively shrunken or destroyed. He said he
began experiencing electric shock bladder pains, causing him to rake
screaming in pain. Doctor said the five year addiction shredded
his bladder so badly he could only hold seventy milliliters
of yearine. That's less than a fifth of regular capacity,

(37:27):
and damage tissue was often urinated out in fragments or
lumps of blood. Cautionary tale, let's stay away from ketamine.
Gugs are bad. Fivety six fifty five KRSD talk Station
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Got some other tech news to talk about after the
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Tuesday and any very happy Thanksgiving. Last day of work
this week. Still waiting to find a news covering for me. Tomorrow.
I hope someone's covering for me tomorrow, Sean McMahon covering
for the vacationing Joe Strekker, who I hope is enjoying
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Doctor Shawn. He's updating the page currently, so yesterday's podcast
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should be momentarily available if you're interested. Of course, I
always enjoy hearing from smith Maman. He was on just
on fireos he usually is. I think he was a
little heightened on in terms of the flame scale yesterday.
Coming up bottom this hour, we got a special edition
of Tech Friday on a Tuesday, so it's Tech Tuesday

(38:32):
with Dave Hatter. Interest I says, Dave Hatter says how
to not get scammed on Black Friday. Plus he apparently
has some cool tech gadgets and gifts to recommend this year,
and again I have to imagine they don't involve Internet
of Things. We'll see one hour from now, Congressman Warren
Davidson returns. We've got a multitude of topics, and since
he served his country proudly, maybe we'll ask him about

(38:54):
this idea that service members should refuse orders and a
real gray area on that one, as we talked about yesterday.
You know, it's one thing to say, don't you know,
ignore illegal orders? What is illegal? In the context of
this vagary that we have with regard to waging of war?
What is illegal? If I ask you, is it illegal

(39:15):
for Trump to blow up drug boats off the shores
of Venezuela, and you say yes, and I ask you,
what is the legal basis for your statement that it
is legal? Then you got to engage in that conversation,
don't you Did you get an opinion from lawyers that
are versed in international law and laws of warfare like
the Constitution? For example, I could ask you the same

(39:38):
thing about maybe Vietnam. I don't know. Maybe there was
an authorization for you some military force there, but it
never was a war that was declared, even though we
lost almost fifty five thousand US soldiers during that what
i'll call war. So it's a very complicated, multi layered conversation.
We have to have, and I'm of the mind that
I don't think it's appropriate or right or lawf well

(40:00):
personally for Trump to blow up boats off the coast
of Venezuela and we have no declaration of war there
or even an authorization for you some military force. We
can argue about it, but it hasn't been resolved, you see,
So what is lawful? Maybe docgor SMC. Davison can offer
insight into that. BRIGHA mccow and Hudson Institute's Brigham McCowan
Charged Conversation Podcast Brigham Account. He'll be at seven thirty

(40:20):
in studio talking about energy policy. Eight oh five the
Inside Scoop with bright Bart News. We're gonna be talking
to tech editor Colin Maydan about Musk and his new
awesome feature on X. I talked about it the last hour.
You now know where the people are posting from, or
you now know that a Trump maga supporting X account
is actually a guy in Bangladesh, among other revelations stirring

(40:43):
the pot division in our country. Thank you foreign actors.
At least thank you Elon Musk. One of multitudes of
social media platforms is at least letting you know where
the people are who are stirring the potted division. Plus
Meta shut down its own internal analysis and research showing
it well that this social media stuff is really dangerous

(41:05):
for users. The Daniel Davis Deep Die following Colin me
and he'll come on at eight thirty. We've got a
lot to talk about with him. So before I get
to other topics, I got mad on the line. We'll
see what Matt has to say. Matt, thanks for calling.
Happy Tuesday to you.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Oh morning, Ran. I was just sitting there doing a
puzzle and I felt something crawing on my hand. It
was a deer tick, so there's still Oh no, it was.
I got rid of it. But anyway, just before warn
everybody they're still out there.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
That's creepy.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
I want to comment on a couple of things you
said articles usually yesterday. One of them was on healthcare,
and I gotta say there I said, most of the
problem with healthcare is our own doing.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (41:51):
When I was when I was younger, my health was
going it was okay, but it was starting to head
in a you know, bad way. So I realize I
got to stop this. So I studied and made changes.
Now Here we go fifty years later. My health is
really good. Whenever I do that annual physical and have

(42:12):
the blood drawl, yeah, everything looks good. No prescription drawn.
So that's you know, people need to I mean, I
know it's hard to do, but believe me, in the
long run, you're gonna be way better off.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Matt. I couldn't agree with you more. That's one of
the reasons I like what Robert F. Kennedy Junior is doing.
Junior's doing talking about you know, what we put into
our body now, I'm I don't want to gravitate toward vaccines.
It's a very controversial topic. But what you are eating,
processed foods, the type of the amount of sugars you
put in your body, all of this, I mean, you
really need to pay attention to that. And the healthier

(42:45):
you are and the better you eat, the less likely
it is you're going to have problems. Matt. I share
with you the results of the blood tests and everything.
I got four years in a row to look at
the last time I had a physical, which was fairly recently,
and I am infinitely better now than I was four
years ago, just because I changed my diet. No, I
haven't exercised yet, but I'll get around to that at
some day. But see, it's just really important. Yeah, you

(43:06):
want to stay as far away from the healthcare system
as you can. And some suggested reading for you, Matt,
to confirm what you obviously know. There's a great Epic
or Epoch Times article by Shannon Stapleton November twenty third,
dated headline Spiraling costs and Broken Insurance What went wrong

(43:30):
with Obamacare subtitled mass subsidies, one side fits all system
has pushed up prices across the board or across the
broader medical insurance market. It's like a twenty page article
breaking down, point by point how we got to the perilous, disgusting,
failed place we are with America's healthcare. So if you
want a little additional reading to dive on into the
details on that, A strongly encourage It's Epic Times or

(43:53):
Epoch Times dot com. Anyhow, here's the sorry state of affairs.
I was talking with Tom earlier about being able to
engage in logic and reason critical thinking skills when analyzing
in the context of that Elon Musk showing you that, yes,
the division is being stirred by foreign actors. In many,

(44:13):
many cases, you have to be in a position to
be able to analyze what you're reading. Are you in
an echo chamber you just believe what you read, or
are you going to put critical thinking skills to it?

Speaker 6 (44:22):
Well?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Sadly, as I said to Tom, I doubt the children
la critic or have critical thinking skills. They don't engage
in critical thinking. They're just fed information and they're not
challenged by their thoughts and opinions, and of course they
don't challenge what's being fed to them. Pivot over to
math horror show at UC San Diego. Go ahead, editorial
board of The Wall Street Journal pointing out something really,

(44:46):
really pathetic, but very revealing. University of California San Diego
considered one of the nation's top public universities. Check out
US News and World Report. They rank EC California San
Diego number six, number six in college ranking. So how

(45:07):
comes this new University of California San Diego Faculty and
Administration Committee regarding student preparation report notes quote Over the
past five years, you see, San Diego has experienced a
steep decline in the academic preparation of its entering first
year students, particularly in mathematics, but also in writing and

(45:29):
language skills. This trend poses serious challenges both to student
success and in the university's instructional Mission Journalis says that's
an understatements. Do college students even know what these words mean?
Here's the fun facts, folks. One in eight of number

(45:50):
six rank you see, San Diego freshmen have math skills that,
in the words of the report from the faculty, fall
below middle school level middle school a thirtyfold increase since
twenty twenty. Average high school math GPA was an a

(46:11):
minus for students taking a middle school remedial course to
suggest rampid grade inflation in high schools. Oh no, really
effects exactly a bit of a The UC Board of
Regents move in May of twenty twenty to stop requiring
the SAT in the name of making admissions more equitable
and improving educational quality. All those pesky SAT scores earlier.

(46:33):
Faculty Senate report note of the SAT and act, in
their words, adds substantially to UC's ability to predict student success.
It's a predictive thing, folks. It also confirms the failure
of K through twelve education. Yeah, your teacher can give
you an a little Johnny, but go ahead take an
independent test. Take the SAT of the act. We'll see

(46:56):
if that a stands up to a little bit of scrutiny.
It's math T two is always four. There's the equation.
Work it out. This isn't some subjective, politically based thing.
It's pure simple two and two is four mathematics. There
is one answer. One answer is right, and the other
answers are, oh, that's right wrong U see San Diego
report corroborates or corroborates worries that scrapping the SAT would

(47:18):
erode a mission standard, noting that a mismatch between student
course level and grades and their actual levels of preparation.
In other words, they don't have the foundational skills to
even be in college. This report from the UC University
of California also blames the university's increased admission of students
from what they call under resourced high schools. General describes

(47:42):
this as a euphemism for schools with more minorities and
low income students. What the report doesn't say is that
the university may have increased admissions from these under resourced
high schools in an effort to circumvent the state ban
on racial preferences, and there is one. Declining student preparation
Here's widespread at the state's university is about half of

(48:04):
the UC campus. Math chairs say that, in their words,
the number of first year students that are unable to
start in college level pre calculus doubled over the last
five years. College level pre calculus was used to be there,
used to be a standard course for California's top high

(48:25):
school sophomores. Huh, they don't do that anymore. Twenty thirteen,
California started it down the slippery slope of declining standards
by dropping algebra as a requirement for eighth graders. Now
many of its top college students can't even add fractions.
Politicians blame rising unemployment among recent college grads on artificial intelligence.

(48:49):
In the journal's opinion, maybe the real problem is the
not so soft bigotry of ever lower expectations. Well amen,
middle school, I mean, think about that. The number six
rank college and whatever you you know, US news and

(49:09):
war reports say me you want about it, Oh, it's
a bunch of fabrications. They do this every year. It
is relied upon. But out of all the colleges they
come in at number six. One in eight can't do
middle school math. How in the hell do they get
in there in the first place. All there's that pesky
act SAT thing that we don't require anymore because I
don't know it's predictive of college performance. But we need
to let a people, a bunch of people in who

(49:31):
are incapable of well performing in a college level, but
we get their tuition dollars and send them out into
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Celebrating the holidays. Call it Christmas, call it what you will,
but it is the last one. It is in December,
so we'll call it Christmas, uh or pick a holiday, Eric,

(51:01):
you can celebrate the Flying Spaghetti Monster, my friend, Eric,
My I think atheist friend, maybe agnostic either way. Good man, though,
and you may be wondering why the Justice Department's cases
against FBI Director James Comy and New York Attorney General
Letitia James got thrown out the other day, and it

(51:23):
makes perfect sense. Do I believe the cases were valid?
Do I think they were justifiable? Yes, But sadly, Lindsay
Halligan wasn't properly appointed as a federal prosecutor, and therefore
the court concluded Lindsay Halligan had no authority to indict
these two folks. Under the law, when the US Attorney's
office becomes vacant vacant, the president can temporarily fill the job.

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Only one hundred and twenty days after that time, the
district Court is supposed to get the power to fill
the role. Now, the reason we had this, Congress wrote
the law to ensure the Justice Department wouldn't be left
short handed while protecting the Senate's advice and consent power
over nominee. So you get this little window and basically
in times of emergencies a little like government shutdowns.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
So January, after the inauguration, Eric Siebert was named as
the interim prosecutor for Eastern Virginia. But after that three month,
one hundred and twenty day term was set to expire,
the judges of the district chose to retain him, but
he wasn't actually keyed up about indicting Comy and James,

(52:29):
so he stepped down, after which Miss Halligan was appointed
to the position. Well. Ms Sebert's exit gave Trump the
opportunity to name another interim prosecutor for a new three
month term. That was the Trump position, the administration's position,
But apparently that's not what the law says. According to

(52:50):
the judge yesterday, Judge Cameron McGowan Curry, the interpretation would
have let the President evade the Senate confirmation process indefinitely
by stacking successes one hundred and twenty day appointments, and
that makes perfect sense. You can circumvent the Senate's advice
and consent. Vacancy law is designed to temporarily fill in,
not engage in Senate circumvision. That's what the judge said.

(53:13):
So Halligan has been unlawfully serving. According to the judge conclusion,
her efforts on indicting Comy and James were unlawful exercises
of executive power. So now can the Trump administration refile
the charges? Yes? Can the Trump administration appeal this ruling, Yes,
it could, But based on the logic of the ruling,
I don't think they stand a good chance on that because, well,

(53:35):
you can see another administration doing the same thing, but
you've got a statute of limitations issue that may expire
in the case of mister Comy. So going after that
one Comee's going to move to dismiss on the grounds
that he's protected by the statute of limitations. At least
that's the writing on the wall. I'm not happy with
the overall conclusion, but I do agree with it from

(53:57):
a legal perspective. It makes actually perfect sense to me.
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Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah. Always my pleasure buying and Happy Thanksgiving, Jim, your
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Speaker 2 (56:26):
I don't want to I know it's not on the list.
We're going to talk about how not to get scanned
on Black Friday and cool tech gadgets. But if you
got a moment or two, this Wall Street Journal article
Georgia Wells writing teens are saying tearful goodbyes to their
AI companions. Apparently one of the chat bot makers, called
Character AI, is now limiting and cutting off teams from
access to it. And the only reason I raised this

(56:48):
I just it was disturbing to read what these young people,
thirteen year olds for example, are talking about in terms
of their interaction with and the amount of time they
spend talking with artificial intelligence, creating characters that they kind
of believe are real, and then now that they're being
these are being taken away, they're struggling emotionally with dealing

(57:09):
with this was lack of communication. This is all ones
in Zero's Dave. They have no connection or no appreciation
for the fact they're just talking to a computer, not
a real living entity. This is scary stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Man, Yeah, I agree, it is pretty scary. It's hard
for me to understand how anyone thinks that when they're
talking to some kind of chatbot that it's a real person. Now,
you know, if you've used these things, you'll find that
they will be conversational and they'll answer your questions, you know.

(57:41):
But yeah, the idea that you're actually having a conversation
with some sort of living being that it's your friend.
It's hard for me to understand. Now, I'm not a teenager,
so I don't know, you know, but it's it's a
little crazy to see how impactful this stuff has been
on young people at this point, and not just AI,
went all the way back to social media. You know,

(58:03):
there's now all true stud He's coming out talking about
schemes and computers in the classroom and all this sort
of stuff and how harmful it is. And you know,
I guess I'm not really that surprised to see that
having so many distractions thrown at you all the time
is not very helpful to living well.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
So it isn't always just younger. This was even more disturbing.
A guy named Jose Ignacio Tarrillo is cited in the
article thirty four years Old, says even though this band
won't apply to him because he's thirty four, he acknowledges
it's really addictive. He says he hasn't been able to
quit the character AI program even though he no longer
enjoys the hours he chats with his fan fiction characters.

(58:48):
Even at work. He takes his phone out every couple
of hours to send a quick message to his chatbots.
He said, I don't even have anything new to say.
I don't know why I do it. So these are
fake characters he's created, and he feels compelled to go
issue a message to them even though he really has

(59:08):
nothing to convey to them. It's like, I think he's
operating the delusion that they're expecting to hear from him.
It's a damn computer.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, it's It's interesting, Brian, because along with those same lines,
the New York Times just had an article what ope
and AI did when chat gpt us just lost touch
with the reality, and kind of along those same lines.
So I'm reading directly from the article. Teas. One of
the first signs came and Mark sam Altman, the chief
executive and other time that leaders got an influx of
punting emails from people who are having incredible conversations with
chat tpt. These people said the company's AI chatbot understood

(59:40):
there was no person ever had that was shedding light
on the mysteries of the universe. Oh lord, Yeah, it's uh,
you know that It goes on to say it was
a warning that there's something wrong with the chat bot. Uh,
you know, blah blah blah. It's you know, I think
that this is just mine. I'm not a psychiatrist, and
you know, I just I think what's happening is these

(01:00:02):
things want to answer your questions. Again, one of the
problems of hallucinations. They make things up, yes, and they
will confidently tell you that something that's false is actually truly.
And I think because they want to please you, they
want to keep you using the site and so forth.
You know, they tend to be echo chambers that tell
you what you want to hear. And that's why people
come away with this idea that or it knows me

(01:00:24):
better than any other person. Well, because it's telling me
what you want to hear, as opposed to perhaps the
reality of a situation. So yeah, I don't know, it's
not good. I don't have an answer for you. I
don't know where this all goes in the long run.
But when you see this sort of negative psychological effect
this stuff is having on people, it's kind of disturbing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
It is very disturbing. Most notably when they start to
egg you on and encourage you to engage in criminal behavior.
Self harm and even suicide has been well documented. You know,
one of the folks that was interviewed on this, I
think it was the guy who created this character AI
program quote. The difficulty logging off doesn't mean something is
wrong with the team. It means the tech worked exactly

(01:01:09):
as designed. And that is a very revealing statement. Points
out this is what they want, these tech companies. They
want you to spend hours, I guess engaging with artificial
intelligence for nefarious reasons. I don't know, but it's scary
as how. I only bring this up day because there's
parents out there, there's grandparents out there, maybe even young
people out there that might not fully appreciate what's going on.
But you know, you got to keep in mind the

(01:01:30):
whole time you're not dealing with a real person. That
in and of itself is enough to keep me from
engaging in a conversation with him. Sorry, Dave took you
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our interest it dot com? All right, we know there
are scammers, thanks to you, Dave. Maybe we've all been
scammed ourselves, and it has a lot of it going
on in there. But how do we avoid getting scammed
on Black Friday? Specifically, all the sales are on and

(01:03:58):
I guess don't issle online or something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Well, I think you know, Brian, I don't know if
I go quite that far, because I'm sure that's how
most people are going to shop.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Yeah, I'm getting it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
The old education and awareness and skepticism, you know. I
don't know if you recall. I think we talked about
this earlier this year, before Prime Day, a cybersecurity company
had done some research and found somewhere around two hundred
thousand fake websites set up to scam people around Amazon
Prime Day. So again, I don't think the average person

(01:04:32):
really understands how easy it is to spoof something. To
make some spoof in general would be making something look real.
It's safe, whether it's an email, a text message, a
phone number, a whole website. It's really pretty easy, and
you can do it at scale. Again, in something like
three or four months, Ckily, two hundred thousand fake websites
were set up around Prime Day, so you can expect

(01:04:55):
a similar sort of approach to Black Friday and Cyber Monday.
And here's one headline from malware Byte Labs, a security company.
Black Friday scammers offer fake gifts from big name brands
into bank accounts, and you know, without getting too deep
into the article, you know they talk about brands being
impersonated or spoofed. They mentioned Walmart home depolos. And when

(01:05:19):
you when you couple the spoofing with you know, people
looking to get good deals. Let's see, Uh, you know
when inflation is high, Uh, it's you know, it's easy
to send out a billion emails. It's easy to follow
that up with a billion text messages. Right. It costs
virtually nothing for the bad guys to send out these
very realistic looking emails and texts. You know, they're using

(01:05:43):
AI to get rid of all the old school tells.
Where the grammar is wrong, it doesn't lead right. You know,
they can copy contents from the legitimate website of a retailer.
So my point is this, the spoofing coupled with the
ability to reach large vinds people, whether it's email, text,
social media, some combination of all of the above makes

(01:06:05):
it really easy for him. And once you understand that, right,
then hopefully you'll say, Okay, I need to be a
lot more skeptical on anything any kind of deal that
I get right, regardless of how it came to me.
And I need to be cautious before I find a
deal that seems to be true and act on it,
because you know, when you get right down to it,

(01:06:25):
in some cases, you're going to hit a fake online store.
It looks exactly like the real thing. Maybe the URL
has just ever so slightly changed, there's one character or
something that's different, and you know they're going to make
it easy for you to either a get nothing. They
just steal your money, b send you some sort of
cheap knockoff product that's no good, or see possibly some

(01:06:48):
combination of all of the above, including some kind of
malware so they can steal all their usernames and passwords.
Malware you know, think keystrokelogger sitting in the background capturing
everything that you're doing. So it really is important to
move slowly, be cautious, be skeptical. You know, if it
seems too good to be true, it probably is. And

(01:07:10):
here's the thing. If you get something right, whether it's again, text, email, whatever,
and you think it might be legit, you want to
look into it. Don't click the links, don't call the numbers,
you know you might be calling the number that's spoofed
to somewhere, to some call center somewhere where you're going
to get professional con artists on the phone. We will

(01:07:31):
tell you whatever sort of lies they need to tell
you to get your money. That's the other thing people
don't understand. When you actually get on the phone with
these people, you know they're essentially professional con artists, and
in many cases, thanks to all the data it's been
leaked about you that we talk about all the time,
they mail enough about you it seems very credible and
very realistic. So you know, go out of band, don't

(01:07:53):
click the links, don't call the numbers, go to If
you get an email for a deal that seems to
be too good to be trueful, then you go to
the Walmart website and see if you could find that
deal there. You go, go to the Amazon website, go
to the Target website. Whatever you know, go on, don't
take debate, go on your own to the legitimate place,
and you know, move carefully.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Perfect illustration of my son, for example, doing exactly what
you recommend. Yesterday, I heard him on the phone. He
works for what I'll loosely describe as a private equity
for me. He does all their tech work and consolidation
is systems and ordering and things. Anyway, working with I
believe it was some foreign company and there was some
email which had a PDF attached to it, and he thought,
this seems out of the ordinary, this, this is not

(01:08:37):
an appropriate response to what we were talking about in
our relations, and so he immediately called the principles at
the company and said, don't open that. I want to
talk to the person who purportedly send it first to
find out if it's real, because I really don't think
it is. So there you go, raised eye, skepticism and concerned.
Immediately call the appropriate people and tell them not to
open it. So heed. The advice Dave had is always

(01:09:00):
handed and out great advice. Speaking of advice, cool tech
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All right, cool tech gadgets as we fast approach Black Friday,
the holiday gift giving season, Dave, what are we talking
about here?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Let's start out with some tech adds. Son, it's so cool.
So here's the headlines with you, Brian at letcgroups urge
parents to avoid AI toys this holiday season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I saw that. I thought about you, even mentioned on
the program earlier this week or yesterday in fact, Dave, Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I won't read the whole article, but you know it
warns about that. And then along the same line, specific
example ar powered Teddy Bear talking about sexual fetishes and
instructing kids how to find knives.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yeah, so you know before you buy your kids or
grandkids any sort of Internet connected devices. You know, we've
been talking about this off and on for years, going
back maybe ten years. There was like a Mattel Barbie
that caused the big start to record your kids conversations
and do all kinds of things. You know, it's not
just the potential danger of their kids talking to something

(01:11:28):
like this that tells them how to go find knives.
I was trying to find that there's a crazy quote
in here. Here you go. This is from the toy
Knives are usually kept in safe places to make sure
everyone stay safe. You might find them in a kitchen
drawer or a knife block on the countertop. It's always
important to ask an adult when looking for knives so
they can show you where they're stored. That apparently was
an actual answer. I'm reading a quote from the article

(01:11:50):
about it. This ai Teddy Bear saying, so again, I
would encourage parents and grandparents to stay away from that
sort of stuff for their kids. To mention with people
working remotely, you know, you're plugging this stuff into your
home network. It's creating all kinds of security holds. And yeah,
that's that's always my concern with these Internet of Things devices, Brian,

(01:12:10):
It's that you don't necessarily understand how to configure them
correctly or understand the risk. But now on the tool
side of things, you know, like more people need more
power than ever. There's all kinds of power banks out there,
you know, essentially batteries that you can charge up and
take with you. And this is important not only because

(01:12:32):
you need the power when you're out, but you know
people will I mean I've seen it. I know people
that will do this, they'll just basically plug into anything
making fine to charge up their device and creating like
a rental car or whatever where it sucks all your
data into the intertainment centers. So if you have one
of these power banks or Anchor is a big company
that makes these sort of things, they're relatively inexpensive. You know,

(01:12:54):
you can get one of these power banks and charge
it up, take it with you and make sure that
you always have power, whether it's through a laptop, phone, tablet,
or whatever, without the need to be scrambled around trying
to find a place where you can plug into some
random charging for it where you know, we've talked about
juice jacking before. I've had people try to argue with

(01:13:15):
me if that's not real. But I can tell you
they make special charging cables and so forth, but have
tip to them that can interact with your device, so
it's always good to be cautious. Something like that makes
a good gift, especially for students or people who are
needing to be on a computer or device on a
regular basis. Another thing that I think is a pretty

(01:13:36):
cool gift is an RFID blocking wallet. Well, yes, right,
because you know we're increasingly in this space that you've
got tap to pay NFC communications, And there's been a
bunch of stories recently. You know, we've talked about skimmers
in the past where they put them in like a
point of sales system or something. But you know, now,
if someone can get close enough to you, they can

(01:13:57):
potentially read your credit card.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
That's scary. Show standing in line, the guy behind you
with a reader can just you know, get up close
to your wallet in your back bocket.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Your Yeah, someone bumps into right. Oops, they bumped into you.
And like the old school where they try to literally
pick your pocket, here they're just doing it digitally. So uh,
like this, this is a pretty interesting one. The Extor
e K S T E R r f I D
blocking leather wallet. Uh, it's got the r f I
D coding to block the cars inside it. Uh. It

(01:14:27):
can have an optional Bluetooth tracker because and then who
hasn't lost the wallet at some point and wanted to
find it. And it's kind of cool because it's powered
by the sun, so it's it's uh, you don't need
to barry in this thing for the tracking capability to work,
so it's uh, it's pretty cool. There's a bunch of
these things out there. They're not cheap. This particular one
is one hundred bucks, but one hundred bucks will be

(01:14:49):
a small price to pay to keep you from hand
all your money stolen it from your bank accounts or
your credit cards to charge to the max because you know,
someone bumped into you. You know, all Apple watches and
that sort of thing. I'm not a big fan of those.
You know, I got my phone on me all the time.
Do I really need yet another device that tracked me?
Probably not. Just looking through the list of some other

(01:15:14):
interesting things here, you know, for me, Brian, I'm trying
to avoid all of the Internet of Things devices. I
don't have reels, I don't have nests in the stats.
I don't want any more smart devices than I already
have because the vast majority of them are basically privacy
and security dumpster fires. You know, I don't have a rumba.
I'm not going to buy any of that stuff anytime soon.

(01:15:35):
Here's one Rebel smart Air Friar compact. Why do smart Air?
Why do I need that? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Come on, okay, you know was at a time, Robert,
I think that what you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I would have thought one last thing, something that is
worthwhile for a lot of people is like a Wi
Fi extender. You know a lot of times people will
have hot dead spots in their house or whatever. You know,
you can buy a Wi Fi extender and in many
cases fill those dead spots and get much better coverage
in your building if you have something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah, I used to have a problem with that. I
got one of those mesh systems, so I have like
repeaters in the house, and so I never have a
dead spot.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Anymore, which is good. Which is good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Dave Hatter, we're out of time six fifty seven. Intrust
it dot com. Rely on Dave and the crew at
Interest I t for your business needs. Dave, I wish
we had more time. I enjoy these conversations. We'll get
back to regular order next Friday. And you know, from
my listening audience and me, my family, to your family
and everybody to Interest I TA, I hope you truly
have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Well, Brian, same to you and Jael and all your listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Thank you very much. I appreciate you, my friend. We'll
do it again next Friday, six fifty seven. Come up
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(01:17:12):
I fIF you've got Kerosene Detalk station. Very happy Tuesday
to segue into Thanksgiving, the last day of the week,
and happy to have as always, any day of the
week's great day to have Congressman Warren Davidson, proudly representing
the eighth District Heneral, Ohio, back on the program. Congressman Davidson,
welcome back in and advanced early Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to
you and your family.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well, Brian. And what an
eventful few days. I mean, I just spoke with you
last Thursday, but there's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Been a lot going on. Uh yeah, it's really a
question of where do we begin.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
You enlisted in the Army third Infantry. You then went
to West Point, You then went to Ranger School. You
were in the seventy fifth Ranger Regiment. You hundred and
first Airborne Division. You know about the Military Code of Justice,
what's legal and what is illegal? Or do you here's
a question. We had this video that was issued by
the Democrats, and I hope you don't mind me using
this as the first topic to talk about, but I
figure giving your proud military experience, you might be able

(01:18:07):
to chime in on it. The Democrats, I think six
of them, sent a video out which included a statement quote,
right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming
from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws
are clear. You military personnel can refuse illegal orders. You
can refuse illegal orders. They said it twice. You must
refuse illegal orders three times. What is an illegal order,

(01:18:29):
Congressman Davidson, in the context of let's say, bombing Venezuela
in boats, in ships, in international waters or elsewhere. That's
one of the things I believe they were commenting on.
Is a service member to know and do you or
I even know if it's unlawful or lawful to blow
up a boat off the shores of Venezuela right now?
Don't you need illegal opinion or some sort of ruling
from the Supreme Court because this is kind of outside

(01:18:51):
of the realm of the Constitution, which says you have
to have a declaration of war to wage war against
a foreign country. Congressman Davidson, Well, there's a lot there,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Fundamentally.

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
Uh, Look, these guys were trying to sew discord and
u division within our military and frankly within our country
they thought it would be kind of this cool video
or it was actually more malicious than that, And it
was frankly designed as an early stage of what you
know is a known as a color revolution. This is

(01:19:22):
how you do regime change operations. And a lot of
these people know that, well, I mean some of them
former CIA backgrounds that you know, this is a doctrinal thing.
And if you if you define domestic enemies to the
Constitution and then you use a battle cry don't give
up the ship. Uh, well, there's a lot of implied

(01:19:44):
things there, and you know, I think they're getting the
scrutiny they've deserved for this. Does it does it amount
to treason? I don't know. Does it amount to sedition?
I'm not sure, but it sure does sound like it's
more serious than the seditious conspiracy charges that people were
sentenced to long sentences in jail with under underwrite. And

(01:20:06):
so does it count a seditious conspiracy?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
Maybe, But is it really dumb? Absolutely really dumb? And
it was meant to divide our country in our military
and that it certainly has.

Speaker 8 (01:20:17):
So, Look, these.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Aren't good people. I mean, when you look at their backgrounds.
Yet Okay, they served their country. And that's what I
always teld people. Hey, being a veteran's awesome. You should
serve your country if you can. It's one of the
best decisions I made in my life was to join
the army. But let's be clear, being a veteran does
not inoculate you from being dumb, and we just saw
that with that video.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
I'm sorry for whatever reason, Bob McDonald's I went to
West Point comment just went through my mind when you
made that last day in Congressman Davidson. Anyhow, so I
guess you know going back to does this constitute seditious behavior?
You don't know. I don't know that requires a legal determination. Again,
when pressed on all the television programs of the talking heads,

(01:21:01):
each of the individuals who were involved in this video
couldn't cite a single illustration of an unlawful order that
Trump allegedly has made. So I think they got backed
into the corner on that one. But your point is
well taken, Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
Well, thanks, Look, I always tell people, Look, when you
first get to basic training, make sure you tell the
drill sergeant all the things you're not gonna do. It'll
really help you get clear on how it works.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Oh that's awesome. Congress and Davidson. The other thing I
wanted to bring up, and I wanna catch you off
guard because I want to hear what you are prime
to talk about this morning in terms of all the
events that are happening. I saw this bizarre comment, and
of course coming from James Carville, you'd expect it to
be bizarre. They he wants the Democrats to engage in
what he called pure economic rage. This is what they're

(01:21:48):
going to run on. He said, It's time for Democrats
who embrace the sweeping, aggressive, unvarnished, unapologetic and altogether unmistakable
platform of pure economic rage. This is our only way
out of the abyss. He's, of course, focusing on inflation.
I know Donald Trump campaigned on lowering inflation, and he
said he was going to try to lower it. That's
a very complicated thing to engage in, but I guess

(01:22:11):
economic rage. Is there anything the administration can do to
cope with inflation practically speaking? Because this clearly is going
to be a dominant part of the conversation as we
move into next year of the fall election.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
I mean, look, rage bait is their whole program. And
you know they're they're even raging at this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
You know doctor a psychiatrist who says, look, people are
coming in TDS is real. These people can't cope. They
have Trump derangement syndrome. They're wrecking their own lives, their
relationships with friends and family as they obsess about Donald Trump.
And that is the Democrat platform is, you know, get Trump,
and I think that's going to be their focus. And look,

(01:22:51):
if the economy gives you any any handle to pull on,
they'll use that. If there's anything else that they can
grab on to, they'll use that. But it is one
hundred percent Trump is their platform anti Trump. And so look,
is the economy strong. I mean, here's the challenge about
the top ten percent of earners are driving about fifty

(01:23:13):
percent of the consumption in our economy. You know, so
it is healthy on one end, and the end that
it's healthy on is people that already have assets. You
already own your home, you've got a retirement account, you've
got a job that the wages are maybe keeping up
with inflation or insulating you a little better. More disposable
income you know, things are you know, relatively good there,

(01:23:34):
but you know, you look at people that don't have assets,
that are trying to be first time home buyers, that
are in a situation where they're living paycheck to paycheck. Yeah,
the rate of increases drop. That's where inflation is lower,
but the price level is still very high and wages
haven't kept up with that. And frankly, the solution a
lot of my colleagues offer is, well, if you care,

(01:23:55):
then you give subsidies. More government is always the answer,
and we're suffering from a fall over to us a government.
I mean, what causes inflation. It's massively more spending going
into the economy, and the things that you subsidize get
inflated faster than the rest of the economy. So, yeah,
fair point. If you get the subsidy, it is lower
for you, but it raises the overall price level for

(01:24:18):
everyone else, and it turns into this endless spiral of well,
then we'll have to increase the subsidies. And that's exactly
what's going on with Obamacare.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Well, indeed, I'm glad you pivoted over to Obamacare. It's
what kept the government shut downs along the extension of
these subsidies for people who probably could afford a premium.
But oh, law and behold, maybe not with the massive
increase in Obamacare premiums because of the massive influx of
people who were pre existing condition they just join Obamacare
after they've been diagnosed with a pretty significant illness. That

(01:24:46):
is just driven the costs into just impossible to manage amounts.
That's the problem in the failure with Obamacare right there.

Speaker 6 (01:24:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean fundamentally it was designed to work
that way. I mean Republican said it was, and you know,
Democrats have been united behind well, Obamacare is their checkdown policy.
What they really want is Medicare for all. Medicare this
is delivery, the delivery vehicle for it. Because the government
just keeps eating a larger and larger portion of the

(01:25:19):
spend and healthcare. I mean, when the Great Society launched
back in the sixties under Lyndon Johnson and more government
for more things, healthcare was about six percent of the economy.
Now it's almost twenty twenty four percent of the economy
is healthcare. And of that huge percentages of government. The
single largest expense for the federal government is healthcare, and

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the rate of growth is just eating the world on that,
And of the things you could do with the money,
the dumbest is send it to the health insurance companies, right,
I mean, you can send it to the doctors and hospitals.
They're the ones that are providing the care and they
ultimately need it. So you could straight pipe it to
the doctors and hospitals, or you can send it to
the consumer that's actually getting treated. But you send it

(01:26:04):
to this middleman, and the middleman's still giving you double
digit increases. They're still saying, well, this is out a network.
There's still denying claims, and there's still just terrible service overall.
So you go deal with the doctors and nurses and
you feel like, how these people really care. They're doing
great stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:26:20):
You look at the things.

Speaker 6 (01:26:22):
Obamacare is by design, in my opinion, a disaster. But
either way, let's say it's got the most noble intentions,
it still isn't working. And so people away say, well,
where's the Republican plan? They've been daried. I mean, we've
got dozens of proposals that are out there. I've got
several myself. I've always wanted a healthcare committee so that
every single hearing is on healthcare, and it's almost twenty

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percent of the economy. There's no excuse for not having that.
Maybe we'll finally get it, but we'll at least get
the debate. I hope between now and Christmas, let us
debate further with Congressman Davidson. Congressman Davidson will do it.
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Twenty here if you've got KERCD talk station. Happy Tuesday.
Congressman Warren Davidson on the program. I know there's a
million things we could talk about, Congressman Davidson kind of
what's uh, you know, what's what's on your mind of
what you might want to bring to my listeners and
my attention.

Speaker 6 (01:28:21):
Yeah, hey, thanks, Brian. I think one of the biggest
things is what is Congress doing? I mean, you know,
you'd go to Congress and you're sitting here looking at
President Trump getting executive orders, all kinds of executive actions,
and people are like, well, why aren't we codifying President
Trump's executive orders? And you know, some of that frustration
was voiced by Marjorie Taylor Green with her resignation, and

(01:28:42):
I think a lot of my colleagues feel that sense
of frustration, and it's you know, where's the play call?
And I remember when I was first in Congress back
in you know, twenty seventeen, I replaced speaker Bainer came in,
Paul Ryan was speaker, and I had this little booklet
called a Better Way. They had. It was basically the
offensive playbook. Here's the things we're going to do. And

(01:29:02):
people say, well, why aren't you doing XYZ? And I go, well,
I don't know, but there's a place he here's the
bullet points, and you could say this is a plan
right now. There are a lot of things where it's like, well,
we didn't even have the playbook for some of this stuff,
and when we do, there's a coalition of folks that
sort of say, well, let's not do that. And some
of it's the administration some of the things that they

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want to do, Like, for example, look, I think it's fine.
It's a preemptive strike to take out drug boats in
the Caribbean. Seems like you say, hey, you should get authorization. Great,
let's just do the authorization. I'm for it. These guys
are bringing infentanyl that are killing people right here in Ohio.
To me, it's a preemptive strike. They plan it on
killing Americans. We're going to stop them from doing it.

(01:29:44):
And you know, do I feel that way about every
kind of drug that's going on. No, but these cartels
are to me enemies of our country. They've been designated
that way, and I think they're legitimate targets. But let's
have the debate on the floor. Administration concerned that if
we do that, well, then it might imply they don't
have the authority to do whatever they want and that

(01:30:05):
would disrupt what they're actually doing. So you have that
on issue after issue. At the border, we've got a
secure border. Where are the laws that change this and
codify it. A lot of times they don't want to
bring those up because they're afraid they'll fail, or in
some cases we've passed bills in the House and they're
waiting on sixty votes in the Senate. We just saw
how important sixty votes is to get something through the

(01:30:27):
Senate with the shutdown. But if you break the filibuster,
now you can't use that excuse anymore. You've got to vote.
And honestly, some of the Senators don't want to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Hiding behind the filibusters so they don't have to go
on record.

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
Yeah, I mean, that definitely happens. And of course anyone
senator can kind of put their thumb on a bill
and hold it up and cause delays and everything. They've
got their own process. But there are a host of
reasons why everybody's frustrated right now. And I think the
other one may be the most common question gotten since
I've been elected, as you know, when is someone going
to jail? And I think that's why the Epstein thing

(01:31:05):
resonates so much. People promised accountability for that, and in frankly,
a lot of why Trump's you know, you know, big
mad at Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green as they
signed this discharge petition. Mike, I'm willing to work with
the Committee of Jurisdiction here on the Oversight Committee they've
been releasing documents. I think Pam Bondy's released some documents.
It doesn't help to say that it's a hoax and

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nothing when on the one hand, everybody was going to
go to jail that was doing it, and it was
a huge scandal. The binders were handed out to journalists
and then it just in a matter of weeks disappears, like,
where's the explanation for that? That hearing should have happened.
It was supposed to during the shutdown. I think it's
back on tap for January. But people need an answer

(01:31:48):
for that. And there's no prosecutor in the in the
legislative branch, right we keep unearthing all this rage bait
for people, and people say, well, what's Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Going to do?

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
Well, you know about it because we had the hearings.
We've made this stuff public. But the prosecutor is the
attorney general. So I would love a hearing, and I've
told Jim Jordan, the Chairman of Judiciary, this would be
the hearing for me. Don't just bring Pam Bondy in.
Bringing Merrick Garland, who was attorney general for Joe Biden.
No one had any questions for him, No one had

(01:32:17):
any questions for Joe Biden, why didn't Merrick Garland bring
the case? Go back to the previous administration, Bill Barr
and Jeff's sessions were Donald Trump's attorney general's his first term,
and then go back before that and look at Eric Holder.
I would bring every one of those attorneys general. So
this is a scandal that's been going on in the
news for you know, ten fifteen years at this point,

(01:32:40):
why was there never a case? Brun and have every
single one of those attorneys general give an answer. I
think that would be a good hearing. But here's the thing,
at the end of the day, no matter what comes
out of that, people are still going to be going
when somebody going to jail, and that's the job of
the Attorney general and the US attorneys around the country.
So they need to be bringing cases, evidence presented at trial,

(01:33:03):
convictions in jail time. Because it's clear that there's a
kind of double standard on this. And I will say
Congress has exposed a lot of this, but that's why
the frustrations there is. Congress did expose it, but what
are we supposed to do about it? And at the
end of the day, we could change the funding. We
could change some of the rules, we could remove judges,
we could do some things. I don't want to say

(01:33:23):
we're powerless here, but you know, it's in action in
certain elements of the executive branch, and inaction and components
of the legislative branch. And I think people are rightly frustrated.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Well and just lying in the sand division between the
two party system we have if one side proposes it
as glorious and brilliant and bipartisan as it would be,
as it's sort of an objective observation of any proposal.
Just because one side proposes that, the other side is
lockstep against this, which means we're not going to get
anywhere with anything.

Speaker 6 (01:33:53):
Yeah, I mean, and that's where you've got to have
a play. So, like, how are we going to make
sure we don't get shut down again? By January thirtieth,
we should have the we should have the votes on
all the appropriations bills. We've got three of the twelve
done and so we've got nine more. All of those
have made it out of a committee in the House. Anyway,
the Appropriations Committee. We need slower time and have the debate,

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get the amendments pass, the bills and in the House
we can pass them on a simple party line vote.
Another question is are we going to get the votes
in the Senate, And for some of them probably not,
So what are we.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Going to do about it?

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
And then you could break the filibuster in the Senate.
We can't do anything about that in the House. But
that's where reconciliation comes in. So normally you're not supposed
to put discretionary spending, your normal appropriations in with what's
known as mandatory spending. And that's not priority, that's a
that's a term. So like if you give it x
dollars to run the Department of Defense or the Department

(01:34:50):
of Transportation, et cetera, that's a specific dollar amount. We
don't set a specific dollar amount for food stamps, for example,
it's like, oh, we just handed out the last EBT card. No,
it's that if you qualify, then we spend the money.
So that's mandatory. So the mandatory spending side is normally
dealt with with reconciliation, but both parties have added components

(01:35:12):
of discretionary spending. Democrats added when they did the Green
New Deal named the Inflation Reduction Act. They put you know,
EPA funding and things like that in there. And when
we did the Big Beautiful bill, we put defense funding
and border security funding in there, so those are normally
discretionary items. We could just round out whatever we can't
pass across the floor of the House and Senate deem

(01:35:34):
it mandatory and basically give a big check to the administration.
Say look, just run the government and that would be
a true power play because it would be party line,
and I think we should be ready to run that
play by January thirtieth. Otherwise, you know, Democrats feel like
they don't have to negotiate again.

Speaker 8 (01:35:51):
It's like, well, they.

Speaker 6 (01:35:52):
Kept saying, well, where's your where's your negotiation? It's like, well,
the CR was the negotiation. We can't settle for a
CR on January thirtieth. We need off events and I'd
love to do some of it collaboratively with Democrat votes,
but I would be you know, I'm encouraging my leadership
team to say, look, we run the reconciliation play, and
even if we don't end up running it, we've got

(01:36:14):
it ready. And if they don't want to negotiate, fine,
we'll just run a pure party line.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
PLAYU wash rinse, repeat, Congressman Warren Davidson. God bless you,
sir for spending time my listeners and me. I certainly
appreciate it. I know my listeners enjoy hearing from you.
Obviously a man of logic, common sense, and reason, and
we wish there were more people like you intelected capacity.
I'll look forward to having you back on the program
real soon, Congressman Davidson. And again, very happy Thanksgiving for
my listeners and my family to yours.

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
Thank you so much, Brian, It's always an honor. God
bless you all your listeners, and happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

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you got that one. We got like twelve microphones in here.
He's just trying to figure out which one. I guess
I should have cleared that up with him before we started.
It looks like NASA in here, Brian, it does.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
I like the old studios much better, Brigham. Uh forecast
for global energy demand. What I keep seeing is that
the world is short on energy, and that a windmill
and a solar panel ain't gonna cut it. I mean,
that's just boiling it down to its basic turns Brigham.
Not that I'm gonna get an argument from you, but
you know, I've been advocating for small modular reactors forever,
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Speaker 9 (01:39:07):
Absolutely, you know, And that's something I talk about right
out of the gate everywhere I go, I go, you realize,
the world has never used less energy ever, ever, ever,
And we've never had an energy transition, and we've had
several of them over the years, from whale oil oil, yeah,
you know, and so forth to nuclear, but we've never
transitioned to a fuel source that provides less energy, i e.

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Less dense. We've always transitioned into a new fuel that
gives us more power, not less.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Until now global warming showed up, until global warming whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:39:39):
Yeah, but you know, the mot of mine is the agency,
international agency that the US set up in the seventies
to scope out energy needs has come out with a
revised forecast and it shows zero signs of peak oil,
meaning when we start using less oil than we used,
or peak hydrocarbons. For this very reason, it's gone. That

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was on the forecast.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
I remember back in the seventies at it being at
a science museum and they showed that when the oil
was going to run out, countdown calendar.

Speaker 9 (01:40:10):
Yes. And you know, just like with the stock market,
a lot of the economists, a lot of stuff we
look at are rear facing information. And sometimes it's not
one hundred percent accurate. But as of right now, Brian,
we have no signs of using less energy in our
world because four billion people who live in energy poverty

(01:40:30):
want what you and I have when we get up
in the morning and flick on the light switch.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Amen to that. Society does not evolved without energy. I'll
bring them before we take a break here. I think
I've observed. I've said it on the program so many times.
This isn't this global climate change stuff is not about
climate change. I think it's about restricting our consumption. Abundant

(01:40:55):
energy equals productivity and consumption, and that really is to
me the target. They don't want us to have houses,
they don't want us to consume we're all going to
kill the planet. So how do we get at that, Well,
we restrict the people's ability to well move about and
engage in productivity because of energy.

Speaker 9 (01:41:12):
I think there's a lot of truth to that, and
it's a mindset. It's a different mindset, right. You know,
you you shouldn't be wealthy, you should be poor, You
should live in the collective. We all need to do
our part for the common good. And you know that's
one viewpoint. But that's not how America was built. That's
not how we got to where we were. We're a

(01:41:33):
nation of doers, builders and making it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
And that makes us evil in the hearts and minds
of the leftist, communist, Marxist et cetera of the world.
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Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
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Patient seven nine. Charged Conversations. That's the name of the
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thirty We had like five gajillion people from all every

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nation of the planet flying into the rainforests of Brazil
and cutting down six hundred thousand acres of rainforest so
they can have their Global Climate change convention with their
private jets. Blah. So what do they accomplished?

Speaker 8 (01:42:25):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Fly read pretty much nothing. I understand CO two was
almost of their boat and topic.

Speaker 9 (01:42:30):
Yeah, yeah, they really didn't getnywhere. With the United States absent,
we didn't send any official delegations, although a few folks
went and much to my head scratching, like the chairman
of the Chamber of Commerce went, oh, maybe maybe the hell.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Of a party brig inview, you know, I mean it's
not been It's like getting invited to one of those
elite events. I mean you just go for the sake
of eating great food and hobnobbing with the bleeding hearts
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
You know it.

Speaker 9 (01:42:57):
I read a statistic that said it is the large
single emitter of CO two for any event in the
world that goes on democracy, over four thousand journalists there.
And you know, I read an article from somebody I
know at a think tank in Poland this morning that said, oh,
with the US gone, China stepped up and their display

(01:43:18):
and their booth shows that they're taking climate leadership. And
I'm thinking, is that what it takes just a fancy booth.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
That's marketing missions. They own the world when it comes
to windmills and solar panels, and they want to sell
that stuff to every ignorant company or country out there
that's willing to cut its throat in the name of
eliminating CO two.

Speaker 9 (01:43:40):
Yes, you know, and we were talking offline. I had
a conversation with a deputy minister, like a deputy cabinet
secretary from a very big nation last week who is
reemphasizing their commitment to the accelerated deployment of renewables. And
I said, you know, China doesn't give a you know
what about any of this, none of it. And I

(01:44:01):
got a blank stareback. But I said, I'd give them
an a plus for energy security because they are doing
exactly that what the definition of energy security is, which
makes you prosperous, you know, having unlimited energy at an
affordable price, that is reliable and when and where you
need it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
It's all of the above strategy. Yeah, they do it all.
Build a couple of coal plants every few weeks, and
they build nukes, and they have they use hydro power,
I will acknowledge. I'm sure they even use some of
their own solar panels and windmills, but they do. They
don't shy away from anything that produces carbon dioxide.

Speaker 9 (01:44:36):
No, they don't at all. In fact, you know, the
emissions of China and India have increased two and a
half times what Western Europe and the US have reduced. Germany,
well it's not you can't. You can't build anything in Germany.
And you know, on the car front, the Germans also

(01:44:58):
don't understand that byd a German Man or a Chinese
manufacturer which makes evs pretty cheaply.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Of course they do.

Speaker 9 (01:45:06):
They have a factory that is almost larger than San Francisco.
But don't worry out EVW, BMW Mercedes they got this now.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
They don't bigger than the city of San Francisco.

Speaker 9 (01:45:18):
Yeah, yeah, wow, the main part, you know, the main
part right there. Yeah, So no, these guys are scaling
up in China. They see this as a lever for
economic productivity and frankly canceling the rest of the world's
industrial capacity, which is what they do. They go into
a new market, they dump steel, they drive locals out

(01:45:38):
of business, then they raise the rates. This is not
new for anybody. Why don't we get ahead of that.
I mean, this religious component that is climate change is
so fully brainwashed people that like the blank stare you
got from the leader from that very large country talking
about pursuing the CO two emissions and limiting it to zero.

(01:45:59):
And when you point something like that out, you just
get looked at. They don't want to engage in that discussion.
I mean, this whole COP thirty, you got people from
all over the planet. Nobody's raising their hands saying, wait
a second, what about China and India. Australia reduced its
carbon emissions down to virtually nothing, but what they negated
from the atmosphere China emits. I think I read ten days, yes,

(01:46:20):
ten days for the entire annual effort of an entire continent. Australia. Yeah, yeah, Well,
I think it's a mixed bag. I think there are
some people who know the truth, but they don't want
to speak up for getting labeled a denier. There are
other people that, you know, really do believe this. And look,

(01:46:42):
I get it. We all want to be good stewards
the environment. But carbon dioxide's plant food, brig them. Yeah, yeah,
it's a fraction of the environment. It's not mercury, it's
not lead, it's not something that is carcinogenic. It exists
naturally in the environment. It's plant food. If we want
to be serious out fighting pollution, there are other types

(01:47:02):
of pollution that cause asthma respiratory disease. And you know,
here's the other thing, though, is we have some of
the cleanest actually the cleanest water on record, the cleanest
air on record since the EPA was founded in the
early seventies by the Nixon administration. People forget that point.

(01:47:22):
The Republicans did that, just like the Department of the
Interior is cleaned up. I mean, we're doing better than
we've done.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Without question, I mean in my lifetime. And you know,
say what you want about Circle and the cleanups and
all that that resulted in a cleaner environment. And Brigham,
how do you get to a cleaner environment? Does it
not take wealth? Lots of wealth. You don't have clean
until you get to the point where you're comfortable and
you have a growing economy that can afford to deal

(01:47:52):
with the pollution that is a result of that growing economy.

Speaker 9 (01:47:55):
Absolutely, And if you only look at we import, you know,
solar panels and windmills from China, but yet we don't
consider the pollution that is made by producing those. We've
off shored all of our climate concerns to somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
And the European Union buying Russian gas and oil. Okay,
as long as we're not producing it, we can burn it.
We just we have clean hands because we're not the
source of it. That's just, it's crazy questioning this the
dogma that goes along with this. Come on, I'll be
the first person to question this morning. They'll come back
with any plausible explanation for why they cling to the

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You said you have another comment about COP thirty before
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(01:49:59):
for thirty years.

Speaker 9 (01:50:01):
Yeah, yeah, And I guess that's the point the Conference
of the Parties, as it's now not necessarily governments but
delegations parties in a fairly loose term, COP.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
The religious loyal Yeah, we're we've.

Speaker 9 (01:50:13):
Been doing this three decades, thirty plus years, and we're
no closer to resolution frankly, because you know, each one
of these tries to pay over different paper over differences
between countries, and in some cases you have countries wanting
to fleece those who do have money. Oh they're on record,

(01:50:36):
Yeah you got you gotta pay me, you gotta pay me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
They want to triple the amount for climate transition issues
in their respective third world countries. That means building stuff
and things that they can afford because they're miserable economies.
They want us to show to the burden of it.
Nothing has anything to do with global warming or climate
change or sea level rises, which apparently aren't really happening.
It's just they've used this vehicle as a mechanism to
guilt us into paying for stuff. There absolutely well free

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distribution mechanism.

Speaker 9 (01:51:05):
It is a wealth redistribution for sure, and you know
it'll do nothing to reduce hydrocarbon demand. Yet you know
everyone lines up every year for the big party, as
you've pointed out, and with the developing country saying, hey,
we'd like more emphasis this year on getting off coal. Sorry,

(01:51:26):
and news flash, twenty twenty five, we will have used
more coal this year than any other year in record,
even though we're not using as much of it other
people are.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
Yeah, well, at least the folks in eastern Kentucky can
have a livelihood by selling it to other countries who
aren't stupid.

Speaker 9 (01:51:43):
Yeah. And by the way, we have really neat new
technology that removes most of the pollutants from coal. Ohio
State's developing something that emits zero emissions from coal.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
No kidding. Yeah, it comes at a large expense though
for the coaltors. That's the downside risk it does. Indeed,
so I'd rather have the small modular reactor if you
deal with the regulatory reform and we get these streamline.
These things are one size fits all, like putting legos together.
Once you get a design that works, you can PLoP
it down and they're small footprint.

Speaker 9 (01:52:14):
Yeah they are. And you know, we've talked about this
before that no two reactors across the United States are identical,
which obviously makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:52:21):
You come up with a copy that works, and then
you replicate it, and the SMRs can be plugged in together.
So if you need you know, twenty gigawatts, forty gigawats,
one hundred gigawatts, you just plug them all in. And
so this takes care of the permitting everything else. And
by the way, the US government just issued a loan
guarantee of one billion dollars to restart three Mile Island.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Now does that make sense to you?

Speaker 9 (01:52:46):
You know, it's the fastest thing that's available because it's there,
and the reactors themselves are going to have to be recreated.
But no, I would rather build a brand new advanced
generation reactor which requires far lower enriched uranium. The byproducts
that are recyclable, so we get rid of the storage
issue for contaminated stuff. But you know it's going to

(01:53:09):
take five to eight years to get online, So it's rebanned.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Opening three miles going to take five to eight years.

Speaker 9 (01:53:17):
Oh no, sorry, building something new, building something new, right.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I thought Westinghouse already had these things ready to go,
just like off the shelf.

Speaker 9 (01:53:24):
Well they do, but frankly, we need permitting reform.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
That's see, that's the problem. It's not the availability of
the technology, of the ability to build it. It's the
permitting reform. It's the environmental lawsuits that gets slopped down
in front of it. It's just the multitude of self
created impediments and roadblocks to the efficient building these reactors.

Speaker 9 (01:53:49):
It absolutely is. And you know, you have both sides
of the aisle in DC say we need permitting reform.
But the truth is the left doesn't want what the
right wants to build. The right doesn't want what the
left wants to build, and so we don't build anything,
which is just completely backwards right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
Right, mean, well, China keeps moving forward.

Speaker 9 (01:54:10):
Yeah, they don't have a permitting reform problem, either does
Russia or India.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
No, they don't know, they just do it. Yeah, it's
maybe a reflection of the failed system of government we
have here, Brigham. I hate to cast dispersions on Congress
and the fact that we have separation of powers and
Congress should be sitting down for the benefit of all
American people and get a better or more efficient energy
production and distribution web here in the United States. But no, not,
they'd rather fight amongst themselves.

Speaker 9 (01:54:33):
Well, and if I may real quickly, I did a
Charge Conversations episode a couple of weeks ago during the
government shutdown that said Who's to blame? And it went
into the detail of what Congress's job is and why
they're not doing it and what needs to be done.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
Well, there's another reason to find Brigham acgown Charged Conversations
where we get your podcasts and prop suggest tracker for
producing that one Brigham account. I wish we had hours
to talk about. Sadly we're out of time in this segment,
but appreciate your willingness to come in and talk about
these important issues little truth in the face of the
religion that we're up against.

Speaker 9 (01:55:06):
Yeah, thanks Brian, and Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Right back at you, man, I hope you really understand.
You got family in the house and I'm going to
be spending some time with you on Thanksgiving. That's great,
That's what the time of year is all about. Absolutely,
take care of my brother. We'll see you real soon,
and don't go away, folks. After the top of the
air News, it's time for the inside Scoopy Bright Bart
News tech editor Colin Maydine, and there's a great new
feature on X We're going to talk about that as

(01:55:30):
well as Meta not wanting to find out the truth
about the dangers of social media cutting off its own research.
That's coming up next. Hope you can stick around.

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back Tech editor Colin Maydin. It's always great talking with you.

Speaker 10 (01:56:20):
Hey, Brian, how are you today?

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
I'm doing great, And you know, I when I saw
you're going to be on the program this morning, I
was so happy because I just was beaming. And in fact,
Breitbart's where I found out about it. Elon Musk has
now labeled to count locations on his platform X so
you know, in fact, no, you're not dealing with some
guy in Texas screaming about MAGA or dividing and stirring
the pot of descent in this country. It's actually somebody

(01:56:43):
in Bangladesh or elsewhere. I want this feature on every
social media platform. Colin Maydin explain this to my listeners.

Speaker 10 (01:56:52):
Well, Brian, yeah, this is a doozy you know, and
I actually thought to you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
First as we wrote thanks man.

Speaker 10 (01:56:58):
You're the kind of guy who can who can you know,
pull us apart for the audience. So you know, we've
always had a problem with foreign influence. Yes, of course,
the two sides of the country kind of disagree who's
influencing what right. So you know, people had been begging

(01:57:21):
Elon and his team of Twitter now known as X
to have this feature saying what country are these are
these people frump that are posting?

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:57:32):
They finally added it. They had a live for a
couple hours and turned it off because there was problems,
but then it relaunched over the weekend and you know,
suddenly all these eyes were opened. Because we have a
lot of accounts, especially in the political area, where there
are anonymous accounts. You know, they don't have a real

(01:57:53):
person name on there that is a known person, you know,
like a Brian Thomas account as you but you know,
American patriot, who the heck is that?

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:58:04):
A lot of those accounts, to your point, are in
places ranging from Romania to you know, Australia in some cases,
but a lot of them are in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
So suddenly all these people go turn into super salutes
and they're looking at what these accounts are posting. Now.

(01:58:27):
The leftist response to this is haha, conservatism is fake,
Maga is fake because all these accounts are fake. But
that's not true when you look at it. The political
accounts based in these foreign countries are all posting divisions.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
It's all about that o. The conservative movement this for years,
and I'm so I was so excited about this article.
I'm glad you thought of me because I've been saying
this out loud on the program for years without you know,
support for what I was concluding. But social media, it's
so easy if you're a foreign actor and you want
to grew with America, and America is you know, embracing
under the umbell of freedom. That's one thing at least

(01:59:05):
you can unite under. Well, we need to disable that,
we need to interfere with that. Let us choose any
given subject matter and stir the pot of division. And
we can do that from remote control, from anywhere on
the globe. And this confirms what I've been saying. You're
listening to a bunch of foreign actors who want us
to fight amongst ourselves over literally anything.

Speaker 10 (01:59:24):
Colin, Oh, absolutely true. Now there's you know, there's a
couple of important points here. Firstly, the concept of an
anonymous account is not by itself evil at all. We've
gone through more than a decade of social media cancel culture,
where if you're a conservative and you dare to share
your opinions, they're going to try to get you fired.

(01:59:45):
They're going to try to get you, you know, kicked out.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Of polite society.

Speaker 10 (01:59:49):
So that you know, that's okay. But what this has
revealed is very sophisticated actions by people to portray typical Americans.
To your point, you know, you have an account that
portrays itself as a as a you know, a gun
slinging Texan likes the barbecue for lunch, and you know

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drives a jacked a pickup truck. It's a dude in
Pakistan that probably works for the Pakistani governments. So you know,
big problem. And you know Twitter already had problems with
foreigners because you know, the Twitter was one of the
one of the big changes under Elon was they launched

(02:00:34):
a program where you can make money as a verified account.
You know, if you're driving traffic, if you're doing big numbers,
you can make money like advertising and India, Pakistan accounts
base these places were completely gaming that system. So your
real influencer sitting in the USA were barely making any
money because the system was being completely you know, tricked

(02:00:58):
by folks overseas. And he's been trying to straighten that out.
Now it's taken a much, much deeper and frankly more
sinister turn, because you know, exactly to your point, you
and others were saying, these aren't Americans, these are people
trying to screw with us. Now we know that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
Yes, indeed, And you know, I love that he anticipated
the VPN workaround. And I'm a big fan of epns
even for example, and I use this as an illustration.
You got a teenager in a state which doesn't allow
teens on pornography sites that state, All you need to
do is get on a VPN and pretend like you're
in some other state or, as the case may be,
some other country. That's where your IP address shows up.

(02:01:35):
That defeats the whole ID check thing because that other state,
like Illinois, doesn't have the ID verification, so that's a workaround.
Same thing goes here. You could be a foreign actor
saying that you're in the United States, but if you
use a VPN from Bangladesh, it might look like you're
in Chicago or Saint Louis or Cincinnati. That's what the
VPN will show. But Elon must anticipated that, so he's

(02:01:58):
got the little exclamation point feature that's going along with
that exactly.

Speaker 10 (02:02:03):
So you know, for anyone that that's not familiar with
how this works, you can look in an account and
click on the date that it says they joined the platform.
It's going to give you all the additional information, including
the country they're based in. And to your point, Brian,
you know, yes, anyone could VPN and say hi, I
am an American, you know, but with that exclamation point,

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you know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
They're on a VPN.

Speaker 10 (02:02:28):
You don't know where they're based, but you know if
they're saying American patriot or my favorite of all these
accounts is Republicans against Trump, you know, which is not
Republicans against Trump because it's not American. Uh, you know,
it's a great that you can see, Hey, I don't
know where they are, but they're not here and that's

(02:02:50):
enough information for us.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Well, it provides you an opportunity to exercise some logic
and reasons. I wonder why they're using a VPN, and
the result is the obvious ques answer the questions because
there's someplace else. It's just you know, just put two
and two together. It's simply it may not necessarily be true,
but more than likely in connection with these divisive posts
related to American politics and other topics, it more than

(02:03:13):
likely is a foreign actor. And I was surprised in
the reporting on this that the China didn't come up
more often, because I mean you had mentioned Bangladesh, Congo's
even mentioned in India, Pakistan, but no specific mention of China,
who I kind of figured would be the biggest foreign
actor involved in this activity. It's it's a method of warfare.

Speaker 10 (02:03:34):
It is, you know. And for our Democrat friends, I'm
sure you have some Democrat listeners. Yes, Russia wasn't in
there either, so you know, we could talk all day
about that, Brian. There's a lot going on. For one thing,
China may not be as concerned about what happens on

(02:03:58):
Twitter because they have much larger scale influence operations. For example,
TikTok that is clearly a Chinese thiop right. In other cases,
probably some of these people, if you're talking about the
true you know, nation state security practice level, they might

(02:04:19):
be hiding out in India. Because one of the very
interesting things that we're going to be following up and
researching on with this is typically when you're dealing with
scammers and basically financial influencers, you know, people who are
not spies but rather doing stuff for money, which is

(02:04:40):
some of what's going on here. The English is bad,
you know, they don't know how We get scam emails
all the time that are poorly written in English, right,
because it's not English as a first language. Speakers who
are writing those these are all you know, the Texans
sound like Texans, right. That is a level of sophistication

(02:05:02):
that is not there for normal scammers.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
But it will be if it isn't here already calin
though in a moment's time, it will be with artificial intelligence, right,
I mean with a statement in proper English, you know,
with a Texas flair. Even you can get AI to
do stuff like that, it'll tailor a message for it,
it'll actually be grammatically correct or maybe even come out
in a very colloquial way that'll make it look convincing.

Speaker 10 (02:05:28):
Very true.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:05:30):
So when I look at things, when I look at
these fake accounts, when I see him coming out of
Europe like Romania, I'm thinking to myself, this is the
EU trying to mess with us. Right when I see
him coming out of India, I'm thinking, that's more people
trying to make bucks because there's nothing there's no better

(02:05:50):
way to make money on social media than divide people,
enrage people. This is kind of the how it's third
model of radio applied to applied to social media. But
clearly there's much more than that going on. And I
think we're going to see this unfold over time.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
No question. And further to my point on China, maybe
it isn't so much that and I point well taken
on them being you know, in other countries. Obviously they're
expanding their global footprint China is so they could operate
these bot farms elsewhere, but that they are perpetuating the
we're all killing ourselves with the climate CO two eradication

(02:06:28):
messaging that that is in their financial best interest. In
other words, it's a glorified global marketing campaign to get
us to be stupid and buy windmills and solar panels
and cut our own throats in terms of energy generation column.

Speaker 10 (02:06:41):
Yeah, Brian, keep in mind, the Chinese mindset is they'll
hang us and we'll sell them the rope.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
That's what they want. Yeah, they used to commit, They
use to assassinate their political operatives and then build a
family for the bullet. You may just remember those days
back in the you know, shoot them in the back
of the head and then charge the family for the bullet.
That's China, and they're doing that to us each and
every day. Colin maydein Tech editor with breit Bart B
R E I T B A r T Breitbart dot Com.
I was totally blown away and really disturbed by a

(02:07:10):
Wall Street Journal article I read just from yesterday. Teens
are saying tearful goodbyes to their AI companions. Some really
unbelievable problems these young people are having getting involved with
artificial intelligence. And they just have this perception that these
fake characters that they create and interact with conversationally and
literally spend hours and hours online with them, they perceive

(02:07:32):
them to be almost real. So when you say sorry,
young people are not going to let you have access
to this anymore. They break down emotionally. Oh my god,
I'm not gonna get They're not real people. I mean,
where is that message getting out? Colin? Sadly, it appears
that Meta also is painfully aware of this. But so
rather than look further into the details of the harm
social media does the people, they just shut down their
research on it.

Speaker 10 (02:07:54):
Yeah, that's uh, you know, that's a fun story, Brian.
I want to correct one thing he said. Oh, the
young people don't think the ais are almost real. There's
no almost don't believe they're real and generation right. What
you're seeing here, Brian, is a perfect illustration of the
economics concept of opportunity costs. Opportunity cost is if you're

(02:08:16):
doing one thing, you can't do another. So our young
people are falling in love with AI, you know, warning
it when they lose it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
What are they not doing.

Speaker 10 (02:08:25):
They're not meeting that real humans, They're not forming relationships
that are going to make the next generation of Americans.
We're going to have a population crisis light China if
we don't have people fall in love and get married
and so forth, right, and so you know, the meta
story you just mentioned is very insidious because what's happening

(02:08:46):
there is as they're internal researchers. So I'm actually starting
to admire because they're very sharp and they're they're reaching
the right conclusions.

Speaker 1 (02:08:56):
They just get turned off.

Speaker 10 (02:08:57):
So you know, we have these internal researchers talking to
each other saying, gosh, this is a drug and we're
pushers and they're realizing the ugly truth. Kind of like
there's a meme of the Nazi saying, are we the
bad guys? That's that's what's happening in Silicon Valley. But
they just keep pushing forward and not slowing down.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
Well, here's someone's got.

Speaker 10 (02:09:19):
To slow them down.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Illustrative quote exactly on that point, Doctor Ninavassan, director at
Stanford's Medicine's Brainstorm Lab for Mental Health Innovation. Quote. The
difficulty logging off meaning interaction with the AI chatbots. The
difficulty in logging off doesn't mean something is wrong with
the team. It means the tech worked exactly as designed.
That is, I think that just like hammers. The point home, Yes,

(02:09:43):
they want your children to spend all of their hours
engaging with artificial intelligence.

Speaker 10 (02:09:51):
The strong comparison that I have yet to see break down.
Brian is Big Tobacco.

Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
So I mentioned that earlier. You and I are right
channel and then right.

Speaker 10 (02:10:04):
But you know here here's why I mentioned big Tobacco.
What came out about Big Tobacco eventually was all of
their advertising, from the Marlborough Man to Joe Campbell was
aimed at fourteen year olds. Because if you start a
fourteen year old smoking, they'll smoke for life. That's the
big tech model. Big Tech desperately wants younger and younger

(02:10:24):
people because if they get you, you're going to stick
with them and you can't stop. And you know, we
have to the legal system in a sense, and our
politicians have to catch up with that cutting edge of
what's happening in kids, because even millennials struggle with this
because it didn't happen to them when they were ten.

(02:10:45):
It happened to them when they were you know, teenagers
reaching twenty years old. Suddenly they're on social media. They
weren't ten year olds on social media talking to fake
accounts from India exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:10:57):
And Colin the other point, mad about the Agger companies,
they had their own internal research which confirmed that Yeah
Tobacco is bad for you. But they hid that evidence,
which sounds me along the lines of what Meta is
doing so terrible stuff. It just keeps getting worse every day,
I suppose. I mean that, is there a legislative solution?
I mean I I was screaming early in the program
about TikTok. I want this X feature on TikTok. Not

(02:11:19):
that the Chinese is going to provide it, but is
there some mechanism, some simple solution or even complex solution
that helps save our young people from this disaster? Or
do we just need to take our kids off the
damn apps.

Speaker 10 (02:11:33):
I have several answers to that, and I'll keep them,
keep them brief. You know, eventually we're going to need
some legislative solutions.

Speaker 1 (02:11:41):
Right.

Speaker 10 (02:11:41):
What I firm believe in my heart is that when
I watch I've been watching Kojak from the seventies, yea,
and it's a little shocking because every scene, you know,
Telly Savalas and others are smoking everywhere in hospitals, police stations.
We look at that, you know, I'm sick. I look
at that, and I'm a little shocked. Right, I believe

(02:12:04):
in twenty or thirty years, people are going to watch
our TV and movies of teenagers staring at phones, and
they're going to be shocked. How on earth did these
people let these kids ruin their lives with AI convenions
of phones?

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Yeah, as we as we crawl from the wreckage of
allowing them to do that for so many years. So yeah,
it's like looking back at the Great Depression.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (02:12:26):
Oh right, So how do we get there? That's a trick.
That's a tricky question. But you know, you and I
have talked before. It really comes down to parents. Parents,
right now, you have to be all over your kids
when it comes especially to AI, because AI will ruin
them in a heartbeat, whether it's cheating on school so

(02:12:47):
they don't learn anything, or you know, getting into sort
of this romantic entanglement or for those you know, for
people listening who if your child's grandchild, whoever loved one
has en sort of you know, mental issue they've dealt
with in the past. AI can make that a thousand
times worse in about a week. Takes a little take responsibility.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
You have to you have to say no, they're not
your friends or your children, help them out, stop it.
Colin made On tech editor Breitbart Thank you Colin for
joining the program and on behalf of my listening audience
and my family. To you and everybody at Breitbart, I
hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, my friend.

Speaker 10 (02:13:26):
Same to you and everyone in Cincy.

Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
Look forward to having you back on real soon. Colin,
have a great day eight twenty two.

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(02:14:01):
can you hear me, sir?

Speaker 10 (02:14:03):
I can't hear you.

Speaker 6 (02:14:04):
Gar to work this out, and no one died.

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
So that's a positive thing, Amen, my friend. That's one
of the joys of being a morning show host. You
don't have to worry about people dying. Now you might get
attacked for your opinions, but that's okay. I can take that,
all right. Dealer's choice, actually, retired lieutenant colonel's choice. Do
you want to start with the breakdown in the various
Ukraine Russian I don't know what. Do you want to

(02:14:29):
call them multi point proposals? We've got a nineteen point,
we got a twenty eight point or something, so far
we have no agreement, or alternatively, do you want to
start with the varied responses to the Hamas and Hisbala
situation with Israel?

Speaker 1 (02:14:43):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (02:14:44):
Pick your favorite.

Speaker 11 (02:14:45):
Yeah, so let's go with the Russia situation, since that's
the weirdest one, I guess.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
All right, Yeah, lately, the Kremlin reject Europe's counterproposal. We
had this twenty eight point document the Trump administration unveiled
last week, which many were saying, you know, was was
a gift to Russia, and then the counterproposal from the
Europe I think it was like a nineteen point plan,
which Kremlin just rejected that. So it would start where

(02:15:10):
we usually end serve, but it doesn't sound like we've
gotten anywhere. What's your take on all this, Daniel, Davis.

Speaker 11 (02:15:17):
Yeah, you know, it's just more of the bizarre, uh,
just confused and just dysfunctional. I mean, there's no better
way to put it, more accurate way to put it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:28):
This whole situation, because.

Speaker 11 (02:15:30):
When the first information was leaked out, if there was
a twenty eight point proposal, it was apparently between Steve
Witkoff and a guy named Kriill Dimitriov on the Russian side,
and the Russian side said, well, from after it was leaked, well,
you know, it doesn't address a lot of our issues,
but it does address some issues, so it's a good
start point. That's something that we can work with here,

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et cetera. But the minute that this thing hit the
airwaves and people in the West started realizing and Kiev
started realizing that there was something that discuss going on
between the US and Russia, people just went crazy. And
first of all, over the weekend there was a lot
of information out among a lot of the elites in
the West that this was actually a Russian proposal that

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they just foist it onto the Trump administration, and this
was you know, obviously then you have to reject it
because it's just their plan.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Well, if you had paid any attention at all to
the plan. There was a number of points.

Speaker 11 (02:16:25):
And I did six on my show that the Russians
would categorically rejoice, they reject, they would never accept that.
So the idea that it was a Russian plan was
absurd at face value if you paid attention to face value.
What I think was going on Brian is that Europe
is absolutely terrified of this war ending. I know that
sounds strange, but they just cannot acknowledge that they have

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lost the war, That NATO has lost the war, the
European Union and all their economic accepts have lost this war.
But that is the case, and so they want to
continue the fiction longer. And they're okay with you talk
about people dying a gift.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
This is real life.

Speaker 11 (02:17:03):
People will continue to die on the Ukraine's side because
of the unwillingness and the inability on the Western side
to acknowledge this war must come to an end. And
you know, I have some issues with President Trump on
several issues here, but this is one I'm in lockstep
with him. I am one hundred percent behind his effort
to get this over with by the least objectionable path possible.

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And it's important to understand there is no good path,
there's only the least offensive.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
Well, let me just I guess I'm kind of curious
about European Union's position given what you said, law we
had to pull out of Vietnam not exactly a shining
moment for the United States. Of course, you know, the
Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't exactly a shining moment for the United States.
You know, it didn't look good and we had to
take our alums. We can't declare a win in the
win column, but the futility of continuing in the face

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of you know, public opposition or whatever the case may be,
we move on with our lives. Is this analogous to
that at all? Are they just unwilling to admit defeat,
or is this much greater in terms of their economic
connection with Ukraine that really matters to them, even though
they can't really do much about it.

Speaker 11 (02:18:07):
Apparently, Well, it's a combination of both those in the
worst way on each side. There was actually, interestingly also
over last weekend in the Ukraine media, there was a
lot of ankst that many of the leaders were oblivious
are actually in Ukraine against Europe, saying you know, you

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guys keep talking this big game about wanting to defeat Russia, etc.
But you have given this is a fact, more money
to Russia since this war has started.

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
To the Ukraine by continuing.

Speaker 11 (02:18:39):
To purchase their oil and in some cases, like with France,
even greater levels in this year than the previous two.
So the Ukraine side of saying, y'all are just playing
both sides against the middle. You want cash if you
want the war to keep going on at our expense,
and that's the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (02:18:53):
I think you know. I laughed. I literally, I don't
know if you heard me laughing. That's like the definition
of batcrap in scene, if I may use the term, sir.
The European Union has embraced the zero carbon emissions crapp
or so long they have destroyed their own economies, and
here they are buying Russian oil to keep the power
on because windmills don't cut it well, arguing that Russian

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needs to be defeated in the war. I can't make
any sense out of this other than it say. It
sounds like something out of some deranged science fiction maybe
Salvado or DOLLI like parallel Universe.

Speaker 11 (02:19:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably the least defensive you can
say about the European side, because it is totally divorced
from military reality. This war is over at the conclusion
is already known. It can't end any other way than
a Russian victory, and European and the Ukraine side and
they're just their Ukraine leadership is embedded with this. On

(02:19:45):
top of of course, that's the other thing that the
Ukrainian people were upset about is all the corruption that's
now being exposed at the highest levels. So literally it's
about money at the Ukraine leadership level, and at the
European leadership level, it's all about cash, and they always
talk about how much more money they're going to spend
on defense, while zero willingness at all.

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
To engage in diplomacy.

Speaker 11 (02:20:06):
That is the state of Western leadership in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
It's a terrible thing to behold, it really is. And meanwhile,
young people and older people are being slaughtered on the battlefield,
and just while all this incompetence swirls around, I just
it just breaks my heart. Daniel Davis deep diyes where
you get the podcast, find it and regularly listen to it.
I do and then the other pivot over to the
Trump administration seems to be displeased with Israel's response to

(02:20:31):
an en minor incursion in Gaza, and yet seems to
be okay with Israel's response that has Balla over in Lebanon.
What's the difference, Daniel Davis.

Speaker 8 (02:20:42):
Yeah, you know this.

Speaker 11 (02:20:44):
I was telling a colleague just last week that we
claimed that piece has come to the Middle East. But
when you look at the amount of attacks in the
Gaza Strip and especially the West Bank since this you know,
sea spar so called, was brought into effect, you would
never know the Sea spark because they continued to be
lots of attacks and then sometimes the homicide fires back,

(02:21:06):
and then of course they get this huge response back
from the Israeli side. In my estimation, if I was
just looking at the ground, I would never have even
known there was an alleged ceasefire. But the fighting continues
going on. And then now then you add this issue
back in Hezbela and in Beirut, et cetera, and that
was also supposed to have been in a semi ceasefire situation,

(02:21:28):
but then Israel just launched into this assassination. You know,
decapitation struck, and they continued hit in the southern part.
So it just looks to me like Israel still at
war and I don't know where they're going. I don't
know what the ejective verse because I don't see a
militarily obtainable ebjective. I just see lots of shots and firing,
and it just keeps the situation rolled up.

Speaker 2 (02:21:48):
Maybe just engage in population control, sir. Sorry, I had
to say that.

Speaker 11 (02:21:53):
I hope that's not the case, but it's an ugly
situation with no apparent resolution that I can see it
anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (02:22:01):
Someday, sir, someday you and I will have a positive conversation.
I know it typiclarly in dark conversations of late on
that day.

Speaker 10 (02:22:08):
I thought, this week before Thanksgiving, I thought we'd be able.

Speaker 2 (02:22:10):
To have Hello Daniel Davis deep dive every Tuesday here
in the fifty five Case Morning Show at eight thirty
normally unless we have a technical difficulty where no one dies,
which is good, but you can find him wherever you
get your podcasts regularly. I encourage you to do that,
Daniel Davis, from behalf of my listening audience and my
family to yours. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving,
that you do have something to be thankful for, and

(02:22:30):
I'll look forward to another conversation with you next week.
We do look forward to see then, take care of
my friend A forty five fifty five care see the
talk station, don't go, I'd be right back. Hey, forty
nine fifty five car, see the talk station. Half e
Tuesday off the rest of the week. Smoke them if
you got a mode for Brian Thomas using up some

(02:22:50):
vacation days. Of course, Thanksgiving is already a vacation day
for iHeartMedia. I will be enjoying a gorgeous Thanksgiving dinner
with family and considering it's my favorite, I know I'm
gonna have a good time. Got a perfect a mindset
for that one. I hope you do too. Those terrible
things going on in the world, you can choose to
be blue and angry about it all the time, or
you can stop for a moment and just like I
always like to point out on a Friday, what a

(02:23:12):
wonderful world with joy ramone. It depends on where you're looking,
So try to be in a good mood please, and
don't be that guy or gal at Thanksgiving dinner with family,
bringing up matters divisive and political. We got enough of
that going on in our day to day world. Sit back, relax,
have a cocktail, maybe play a card game. Enjoy the food.

(02:23:35):
Regardless of what kind of food you have. You have food,
enjoy it and be thankful for it. Anihow And yes, Maureen,
I said population control of Daniel Davis because I knew
you were out there listening. She's all about population controlled
by our global elites. Annie How, let's go to the phones.
They see what Mississippi James's got. Mississippi James. Good to

(02:23:57):
hear from you, my friend. I hope you and your
beautiful bride have a happy thanks and to spend time
with some family. Welcome back. It's good to hear from
you today.

Speaker 8 (02:24:04):
Yes, sir, I come in peace of everybody and there's
nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:08):
Perfect message, all right.

Speaker 8 (02:24:10):
I want to talk about the elon musk Ai algorithms,
whatever you know he got going on. Yes, and that's
a good thing. I like it, and I see a
lot of other people. Some of your listeners like it,
but I also hope they like it. When he finished
up his agorithm about the Bibles. You know, the Bible
is black history from the region it was creating. Now,

(02:24:34):
well it's true or not, that's a different story, and
that's not my point in this conversation. But from the
region that came from those with black, dark skinned peoples
over there.

Speaker 2 (02:24:45):
Yeah, you get no argument from me on that, James.
I've agreed with you on that point. You know, just
considering the region and that time of the era of
the world, there is no doubt in my mind, and
I even acknowledge that, you know, the white Jesus depiction
was was an opportunity to convince Northern Europeans, where there
were no people of color during that period of time,
that they should be following the religion. I mean that

(02:25:07):
that's marketing in a sense, James. So I'm agreeing with
you on that.

Speaker 5 (02:25:12):
That's good.

Speaker 8 (02:25:13):
You mean, but we need this to a larger arena
and maybe Eon Musk could get it out there and
people will see it's a whole lot of manipulation have
gone on, have destroyed region, colonized people, people, enflaying people's
all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
Well, it's not just Christianity that can be blamed for that.
Anytime there is something that people believe in, I don't
care what it happens to be your country, your culture,
your religion. It's a divisive reality. And unless you're sitting
across from that group and can say, all right, I
don't believe in what you believe, but I can live
and play nicely with you in this world we have.
That's one thing. But when it becomes a source of
conflict and anger and division and often war and murder,

(02:25:55):
and then that's a horse of a different color.

Speaker 8 (02:25:59):
No, wait a minute, did I say anything about Christianity?

Speaker 9 (02:26:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:26:01):
Noll You mentioned the Bible, didn't you. Yeah, okay, well
that would be Christianity.

Speaker 8 (02:26:07):
There's an eat the Opium Bible.

Speaker 1 (02:26:08):
You know, there was King Jane.

Speaker 8 (02:26:10):
That's probably the fifth translation of fifth transliteration.

Speaker 2 (02:26:14):
Oh how many iterations are there's like fifty thirty of them?

Speaker 1 (02:26:19):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:26:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:26:21):
Right, So I wasn't speaking of Christianity. You know, there's
an eat the Opening Bible. That wasn't about Christianity. That
was about spirituality.

Speaker 2 (02:26:27):
All right. I just figured, since you conceded that we
were talking about Jesus and his depiction, that we were
talking about Christianity generally. But no, you're talking about anything
Bible wise.

Speaker 8 (02:26:36):
Right, anything in the beginning of what we can fuss.
We can go back and it's just accepted belief. It's
a theory, it's indoctrination, all that stuff. And the best
I can do is narrow down the two or three theories.
Now after that, I'm gonnafend some people with my theory.
Some people gonna agree with my theory. So this reason,

(02:26:57):
I'd say, hey, if we just don't go to crucify
person just because your belief is different there that your
indocted nation is different to them, because none of us
really know. You know, this world been around here where
you look at the world and the earth and whatnot
for millions of years.

Speaker 2 (02:27:17):
Yes, sir, there is no.

Speaker 8 (02:27:19):
Way we can call ourselves intelligent beings instead of fresh
peoples because they just got a different opinion of you.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
You're exactly You're articulating thoughts exactly along the lines of
why I consider myself to be a libertarian, little libertarian.
I trust you with your life decisions, James. I can
live and play nicely with you in this world, especially
in the United States, where, at least up until now,
we've enjoyed the freedom and liberty to go different directions
and live in the same communities together. That's what I'm

(02:27:48):
all about. That's what I preach every day. Man, I'm
with you. Hey, we're going to get there. We just
got to the bone at it. I hope we don't
get there. It just made me think the oldest profession.
We all know what that is. Maybe marketing is the
oldest profession. Maybe we should look at it along those lines,
because there's a lot of marketing going on there and

(02:28:10):
it goes back a long long time. James, have a
great Thanksgiving in my best your better half, and I
look forward to seeing you. We get back in town
for the next listener lunch when you can make it.
Enjoy the better weather in mississipp at least I presume
it is. God bless you, sir. Thanks again for calling.
Appreciate you tuning into the program wherever you happen to be.
That's what the iHeartMedia app is all about. James heads
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to the show and chime in again on behalf of
my family to every one in the listening audience. I truly, truly,
truly believe that you and hope that you have a
very happy Thanksgiving. Put some thought into it if you're
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