55KRC Tuesday Show - Brigham McCown, Scott Schara, Breitbart, Deep Dive

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Five o five at fifty five kr C, the talk station at the
Tuesday a vacation. I'm the dudeman you may be, but I'm Brian

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Thomas, and I'm a happy guybecause Joe Strekker is back at work.
I hope you had some nice daysoff there. Joe's Trekker, your long
weekend and things feel back to normalhere on the fifty five KARS Morning Show.
I hope you can stick around allmorning. Got some great guests lined
up. Bring him a down HudsonInstitute. He'll be in studio talking about
the Chevron decision. Of course,forcing Congress to do their job boiling it

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down. That's all that said.You don't have to defer to the deep
stated minute straitve Agency. If you'rea judge, you've got to look to
see what the law says, aswritten by Congress signed into law by the
President. Do the powers spring legitimately, logically and reasonably from what the law
says, or did they expand itand start reading into it something that isn't

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there. This is how the administrativestate expands. This is just a continuation
of the narrowing of the deep stateby the Supreme Court thank God, forcing
Congress to actually do their job,write a clear law. Let's be specific,
Let's not be lucy goosey with it, knowing full well that the administrative
state will do whatever damn well pleasesbehind the scenes after you pass something into

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law. Ah my summary on andwill do a much more detailed analysis as
the program unfolds the Brigham account andthe studio to talk about that one.
Also at seven point forty, afterBrigham departs the studio, Scott Sharra,
host of Deprogramming with Grace's Dad podcast, hear about his daughter's story of medical

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malpractice. And it is in thepart that'll be at seven point forty inside
scoop of bright bart News every Tuesdayat eight oh five. Today, Bright
Barton News legal expert Ken Kolkowski onthe Suburban Court decision in the Trump case.
Of course, that one offering someimmunity. No, the president can't
go around and murder people. Youcan see you to the left. It's
as if they didn't even read thedecision. Oh my god, Donald Trump

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could run them up and go outwith an AK forty seven and start killing
people. Has nothing even remotely closeto what the Supreme Court ruled in the
immunity case. Get to the detailson that one, of course, coming
up at eighty five before that thoughas well, and today Tuesday deep Dive
Daniel Davis or Daniel Davis Deep Diveas the case, maybe is Zelensky dragging
a distracted America into World War three? Sometimes does look like that. And

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funds if you've got something to say. Anyway. That's Supreme Court protecting the
president to some degree. They rightlyfocused on the presidency generally, isn't This
wasn't about Donald Trump. It touchedupon Donald Trump and some of the allegations
that have been levied against him bythe Special Council, But it deals with
the presidency generally, looking forward andseeing if the presidency might have a bit

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of a problem on its hands ifthere wasn't some measure of immunity, because
literally, it'd be one tit fortat after another for the rest of our
country's existence, which probably wouldn't bevery long. The ability of presidents to
act in the national interest free fromprosecution for official acts operative words there in

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the opinion official acts within the scopeof the presidency quote a president inclined to
take on one course of action basedupon the public interest, may instead offer
another apprehensive that criminal penalties maybe followhim upon his departure from office. And
if a former president's official acts areroutine only subjected to scrutiny and criminal prosecutions,

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the independence of the executive branch maybesignificantly undermined, wrote Chief Justice.
For these six conservative justices and themajority opinion, the court properly reads the
Constitution to offer absolute immunity for actionswithin the core planary powers of the executive
branch. Means the presidents can't beprosecuted for actions related to national security,

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intelligence, foreign policy. Someone calledme the other day, I wanted to
know if a president could be youknow, for example, could Joe Biden
be prosecuted for the thirteen soldiers thatwere well bombed into oblivion in the departure
from Afghanistan. My immediate response beforethis case came out was no, that's
act. He had no control overit. He didn't pull the trigger.
We're engaged in a well a warbasically, and the terrorists did that that

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well. The pulling out of Afghanistanwas poorly executed, to say the least
is not something that is actionable.That's the point of this decision. He
can't be prosecuted, for example,for deaths that occur from ordering a drone
strike, or for his communications withthe Attorney General on investigative decisions, which

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of course disqualifies part of the SpecialCouncil Jack Smith's case against Trump. On
the January sixth indictment, the Courtrejected Trump's claim though that presidential acts,
all of them, have absolute immunity. No, that's not right. If
they had absolute mouity for all actscriminal and otherwise than these left wing hair
pulling out moments that they're having rightnow, would actually have some legitimate basis

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in argument. But no. Chiefwrote that the president has only presumptive immunity
from prosecutions for official acts outside ofhis core constitutional power, and that unofficial
acts have no immunity. Ergo,Trump can't shoot someone on Fifth Avenue.

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I think the Wall Street Journal broughtthat one because I had forgot about that.
He once joke about that. No, he would not be immune from
that. No, he cannot takesealed Team six out and kill a political
opponent, which is what the threemembers of the left on the Court were
kind of dwelling upon, making upreal outrageous scenarios to gin people up.

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What is an official act that warrantspresumptive immunity. That's a big question.
That's why it was remanded. Theyhave to do an analysis of that.
Are the things that Trump has beencharged with considered within the official acts of
the presidency or are they outside ofit? Some of which have been addressed

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already in the language of the court'sopinion. Others are going to be It'll
remain to be seen after the casegoes back in front of at the trial
court level. The Chief Justice inhis opinion provides some measure of guidance about
that presumptive immunity. One principle isthat the prosecutor, a prosecutor in Congress,
cannot invest get a president's motive inmaking a decision. What's behind the

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scenes. Is it a political decision? Way? Everything is political when you're
president, isn't it. I don'tthink you can get around that. But
if motivation, oh my god,the only reason who did that was politics,
The only reason he did that wasto buy votes, whatever, that's
immaterial to this discussion. Is itsomething within the official acts of the presidency,
not what motivated the president specifically doit. Another principle, the burden

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is on the prosecutor to show thatan official act doesn't deserve immunity. At
minimum, the court wrote, thepresident must therefore be immune from prosecution for
an official act unless the government canshow that applying a criminal prohibition to the
act would pose no dangerous intrusion onthe authority and functions of the executive brand.

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So you can do that President isnot going to be the authority and
functions of the executive branch are notgoing to be impacted if we go after
the president for something he did thatwas criminal shooting someone on Fifth Avenue,
for example. So it's remand ofthe case back to the trial judges's side

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of the charges are official and deserveimmunity. But he did say that talking
with Vice President Mike Penn's about certificationof electoral college within the realm of official
acts. Whenever the president vice presidentdiscussed their official responsibilities, they engage in
official conduct. Ergo, it's chuckingout that component of the case against Trump.

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So some of the questions were answered, some of them remain open,
but it ain't over. The fatLady has not sung visa dy all of
the charges against Trump, and nothe president can't run around and kill people.
But Chief Justice explicitly stated the Presidentis not above the law. His
words not mine. In spite ofwhat Justice's Sonya sodom Are Katanji Brown Jackson

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and Alega Kagan would suggest to youcan't believe this is written in an opinion.
The President of the United States isthe most powerful person in the country
and possibly the world. When heuses official powers in any way, under
the majority of reasoning, he nowwill be insulated from criminal prosecution orders.
The Navy teals seem to Navy SealedTeam six to assassinate a political rival.

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Immune organizes a military coup to holdon to power. Immune takes bribe in
exchange for a pardon Immune Immune ImmuneImmune. No, Justice, sodom Iyer,
that's not what the court said.Besides, you can always impeach a
president, voters can vote him outoffice craziness, But subheading you can chalk

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it off as at least a partialvictory for President Trump. By sixteen thirty
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talk. Thanks in advanced Gary JeffWalker for covering for me on Friday,
taking the day off my post IndependenceDay holiday segue into a long weekend,
looking forward to that, taking alittle bit of time off and enjoying Independence
Day. It's my favorite holiday,one of my favorites. Thanksgiving and Independence
Day my two favorites. Anyhow,rumors are swirling. It looks like they're
going to buckle down and Biden's goingto stay, going to continue to run

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by all accounts the cries to havehim step down or met with realities that
it's going to be virtually impossible.Although the top possible Biden replacements get a
load of this identified over on thePolitico. I'm sorry The Hill those looking
for left leaning websites. The Hillis another one like Politico, coming in

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at number one. Kamala Harris themost likely candidate, but obviously not popular,
as they point out, favorability ratingslower than Joe Biden's. And of
course she was responsible for immigration.She was the borders are there for a
little while, didn't do a verygood job with that, and that one
resonates practically number one. The economycoming at number one with voters across all

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the polling. Immigration pretty much numbertwo, and it's not a pretty picture
in terms of people's perception of theimmigration situation going on. Gavin Newsom,
of course making into the top list. The only problem is with Kevin Niss
his states going to Hell and aham basket anyhow. Gretchen Whitmer Michigan Governor.

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Gretchen Whitmer lockdown, Gretchen, Idon't know. Apparently one of the
clearest of the rumored choices that sheis not angling to replace Biden and is
fully behind him. Pete butda Judd. Anybody take that one seriously? Yeah,
go ahead and run Pete Mayor Pete. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. Honestly,

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I haven't seen his name on thelist before, developed the reputation of
his career as a more moderate Democratthose elected after running on a key liberal
issues like protecting abortion rights and raisingthe minimum wage. JB. Pritzker,
Governor of Illinois. I mean,it's like worse than Gavin Newsom. Illinois

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is has already gone to hell ina handbasket. I think they're stuck there.
How they're never going to climb outf Underneath their financial woes, Pritzker
is is the one of the morecorrupt governors in the state, at least
from that's from my perspective. ThePritzker family unbelievably wealthy family and run pretty
much everything in Chicago. And finallyAndy Basheer Kentucky Governor Andy Bshier. This

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is the reason I kind of wentthrough the because I hadn't heard his name
brought up until before until yesterday.So in a very red state, of
course, Governor Andy Bisheer, Democratwas able to pull it out, and
they suggest maybe he's got a futurein higher office. I just can't imagine
that Kentucky and Governor Basheer could carrythe weight of a national election. But

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there you have it. And someadditional polling information. Suffolk University USA Today
poll released yesterday now reflects that onethird of the voters are more inclined to
support Donald Trump after the presidential debate. More than forty percent of Democrats believe
Biden should be replaced after the debateperformance. Thirty one percent of respondence state

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that Trump's performance made them more likelyto support him. And that's across all
the people, all the polling.You have Democrats in the poll, you
got Republicans in the polling independence.Of course, thirty one percent of the
of those polls said that Donald Trump'sperform Romans made him more likely to want
to vote for him. By wayof contrast, only ten percent of voters
said Biden's debate performance increased their likelihoodof voting for him. Someone out there

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actually holds that position after watching thedebate, that they are now more inclined
to vote for Joe Biden. That'sgot to be more of a reflection what
Donald Trump said than what the deliverygiven by Joe Biden, which wasn't really
even in the English language. Ninepercent said the debate made them more inclined

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to back a third party candidate.Voters from both parties agreed by a margin
nearly five to one that Trump wasthe debate winner. Shocking no one.
Only eight percent of Biden supporters believethat Biden actually won. That's just within
the Biden support camp, so notlooking really good. Another weird comment,

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Michigan Governor Gretchen Whittenmer apparently said Fridayof their state is no longer winnable for
Biden after the debate. That's reportedby Politico. That is an interesting statement
from Governor Whimer. So just reflectingwhat we all kind of concluded after the

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debate. Trump won, It hurtBiden, I think irreparably. Five twenty
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too. Appreciate Uhoetrekker keeping that pageupdated. Over The local story He's got
a man Dad for he shot bypolice officer and Taylor Mill happen on Sunday.
Kentucky State Police reported that officers respondedto Grand Avenue just before three pm
report of a person with a weapon. According to the release from Taylor Mill,

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officers encountered to the suspect inside thehome, threatening someone and wielding a
knife. A shot was fired thatKentucky State Police responded to investigation. Man
died on the scene. Suspect's namenot been released. KSP community in transparent
w well ensuring the integrity investigation,according to the agency press release, to
protect the integrity of the ongoing investigationand the police standard operating procedure not to

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release specific details until vital witnesses havebeen interviewed and pertinent facts gathered. No
officers were injured, thankfully, duringthe incident, according to the Commonwealth Attorney,
Rob Sanders pointed out, the familymember who was threatened with a knife
did not require medical attention. Nofurther threat to the public either. Put
a helmet on. Motorcyclists dead aftercrashing into a pole near Madison Township happened

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Sunday evening. Court of Butler CountySheriff's Office deputies called to a sixty four
hundred block West Alexandria Road about seventhirty Sunday evening. They determined a thirty
eight year old driver of a twentytwenty two haunted motorcycles heading southeast west Alexandria
near Dickey Road, motorcycle went offthe left side of the road and hit
a pole. Driver died from theirinjuries at Atrium Hospital. According to the

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Sheriff's office, identity driver rider notreleased, nor is there any munication whether
helmet was warned. But I alwaysuse these motorcycle accidents to please implore you
to consider wearing a helmet. Ido not like state laws that mandate them.
But then again, as I alwayslike to say, he got a
ten dollars head, at least putit in a ten dollars bucket. FBI

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investigating vandalism at two Jewish cemeteries wheremore than one hundred and seventy headstones were
toppled in damaged. Joe, Ithink we have an award to give out.
Sue Suskin, executive director of theJewish Cemetery is a Greater Cincinnati,
shocked by the level of vandalism.She said, we went out there today
expecting to see a bunch, butthere was actually about one hundred and seventy
six that are down too. Cemeteriesvandalized to Faari Israel and beth hammerdash hagit

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All. Suskind said they're working withlocal police in the FBI investigating. Because
of the crime that occurred on religiousgrounds, she thinks the vandalism is an
antisymic, antisemitic attack. Considering thelevel of damage, it leads me to
believe there has to be mortive behindjust wanting to knock down headstones, considering
there one hundred and seventy six ofthem, she pointed out, So the

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headstones will be on the ground defileduntil law enforcement is able to finish investigating.
So due to the investigation process,the JCGC will have to wait to
wait to tell families if the lovedone's headstone was damage. She said.
They're working to identify all the headstonesto let the families know. They're raising
money for the cost of repairing andreplacing them. If you want to make

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a donation to the Jewish Cemeteries ofGreater Cincinnati. Peris the biggest deuche of
the universe, in all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you.
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Your dreams have come true and ClarimontCounty Animal Shelter volunteers seeking answers after voicing
some what they called Fox nineteen reportingdire concerns with county commissioners, staff members,
Clima County Animal Shelter staff members,resigning kennels in the building, need
of repairs, thousands of dollars indonations going unused. Those are some of

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the complaints expressed to Fox nineteen reportingabout the shelter. Megan Dashley, interviewed
by Fox nineteen Klarmont County Animal Sheltervolunteers, said something has to change or
else the shelter is just not goingto be able to thrive or survive.
She's been volunteering there for more thana year. One of several people who
recently voiced concerns about the state ofoperations after they said complaints of the county

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went nowhere. Problems include, butnot limited to, shortage of kennels,
inadequate outdoor space, resulting in dogshaving to spend as much as twenty two
hours a day locked up, oftenin unsafe conditions. That is so heartbreaking.
Fox nineteen made multiple public records requests, not all of them been processed.

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There did obtain a string of emailsby volunteers sent since last years.
Emails focused on the same conditions outlinedin the editorial published by the media partners
of it since Ani Inquirer. Sothere was a promise of commercial grade washer
and dryer that has fallen flat,thousands of dollars in donations not being used.

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June fitth Ashley another volunteers and staffmembers went to Claremont County commissioners with
a dire message quote a suicidal workforce, no leadership, a blown medical budget
by may, reduced hours, misuseof funding. How can the county see
this as a success? Close?Quote that's from miss Dashley. There's anything

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you can do with Clairemont County toget this thing situation righted. But you
know there are many dogs out ofthe world in need of a forever home.
There are also people out there thatvolunteer will take in and foster animals
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uh karma Not exactly instant, butit does come back to haunt you.
In this particular case, we havean airman station at McDill Air Force Base
in Tampa reaching out for a fourteenyear old girl to have sex. At
least that's what he thought. Twowhat the hell corn announcement to US Attorney

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Robert B. Handburg yesterday. Evidencefor Preventative Presentative Trial revealed it on June
twenty and June. Back in Juneof twenty twenty two to thirty nine year
old Jonathan Howard kuken Dahl began messagingsomeone named quote Mss Glitter close Quote online
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first few messages of thorty say Glittermis Glitter told Kukendall that she was fourteen
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as well as numerous adult porn images. Invest go to say messages continued
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Attorney's office. Keukendall drove to Glitter'shouse, took several male sexual enhancement pills,
and approached the home's back door,where he learned that he was not
meeting a fourteen year old girl.In fact, Ms Glitter actually an undercover
federal agent conducting a pro act InternetCrimes against Children operation. He was arrested
on the scene, now facing aminimum mandatory sentence of ten years to life

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in federal prison after being found guiltyof one kind of attempted enticement of a
minor to engage in sexual activity bya federal grand federal jury rather sencing September
nineteenth, wait for it, OhYeah, and here's another one, Joe

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Clearwater, Florida, where we gohave a Panellis County deputy resigned after being
arrested for watching and sharing child pornvideos while working at the jail. Do
what the hell? Detectives assigned tothe Crimes against Children Unit arrested thirty three
year old Trevor Scott Willis, aPanellis County Sheriff's Office detention deputy, after

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receiving information that child porn was beingaccessed and shared online. Detective save videos
were of children between the ages offive and fifteen years old. Court of
the police video showing child engaging insexual activities with a dog were also found
during the investigation. Let's say investgot to say. Willis use his personal

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cell phone while on duty at thejail, and it was logged into the
Penelas County Sheriff's Office agency Wi Fiwhile watching the videos. When detectives interviewed
him, they say he admitted toobtaining and sending the videos idiots doing idiot
things because they're idiots, taking aPenel's County jail, and resigned from the
Sheriff's office. According to law enforcement, facing charges ten counts possession of child

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activity involving animals. Say the investigationis ongoing. You'll have fun in prison.
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a happy one too. You're goingto go over to the phones. Got

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several callers online. We're going tostart with cribbage, My cribbage, My
happy Tuesday to you. Always getto hear from you. Thank you,
sir, And you know, tryas you might, you you shifted listener
lunch a week and now you've movedthe location, so I will be there.
As much as you're trying to dodgeme, I am not trying to
dodge you. And the location wasa shift was out of my hands,

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just starver to to knows. ListenerLunch is a week from tomorrow, not
the day before Independence Day. Weekfrom tomorrow, that's the tenth, and
we're going to be at the TurfClub, which is opening just for us.
They normally open at four, butthey're going to open for lunchtime for
the listener lunch, so I hopeto see it. I will be seeing
you apparently at the Turf Club,Yes, sir, I love that place.

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Hey. You know, as fortuitousas it was yesterday that the Supreme
Court decision came out the first newscycle day after the debate. I think
that kind of explained the over thetop and outrageous comments. I was a
little disappointed that three of them camefrom the Supreme Court justices on the left.
Yeah, maybe they missed Justice Robertssentence where it said emphatically and word

(34:55):
for word that the president is notabove the law. They missed that.
You Roberts even went back and pointedto the descent and highlighted that it was
one of those like you idiots,I already said he's not above the law.
I mean, how much more cleardo I need to be than just
the actual words I used in theopinion. I think, well, I
think we'll see more of that todayand then they're trying to get to the

(35:17):
fourth of July holiday as fast asit can. But I said, note
for him is that this is notgoing away. He is not getting better.
And the fact that they're even entertainingthe thought of doing town halls.
I don't know where their heads areat, but all I can say is
bring it on. Yeah, andone portion, I know you're pretty much

(35:37):
rehash the debate, but one thingI want to bring up, I just
wish Trump would have been ready whenBiden made that comment that no serviceman died
on his watch. Trump should havelooked at it, at Biden and said,
look at that camera and repeat thatsentence to those thirteen gold Star families
in Afghanistan. Part of me wantsto respond by saying, I don't know

(35:59):
what Joe Biden was thinking, butthat that presupposes he was thinking. So
okay, I that was that wasan easy one. You're right he said
Trump should knocked out of the park. But then again, I can't believe
Biden even had the nerve to utterthose words, knowing full well that they
that was. That was one ofhis bigger embarrassments of his presidency, for
God's sake. And I have ahappy meal, sir, Yeah, no

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question about it. See a weekfrom tomorrow, cribbage, Mike Man,
looking forward to it. Let's getMississippi. James James, welcome back,
my friend. Good to have youon the show. Good morning, bron
Yeah. I think the munity casewas a pretty straightforward case, you know,
because they just put into me nowand it's my little notes they just

(36:43):
put into word would have always beenfor the most part, the president involved
way he's been ammuted for acts withthen their fisher dudies. Yes, they
just put it into words this time, and I think they may have handcuffed
prosecute is going forward as what theycan use to determine if it's a fish

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of duty, right, I gottalove problem with that part. Well,
putting it into words now, Ithink this force this forces unlike this whole
idea that there's lawfare going on,that they're making up cases or they're actively
going after and rifling through someone's youknow, life, in order to find
a case to hang their hat onand bring into prosecution. At least if

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you're the president, they must bevery contemplative before they go down that road.
Is there has there been a crimecommittee? Is it within the scope
of the presidential duties? If it'snot, hey knock yourself out and go
for it. But it'll force themto at least go through that exercise,
since the prosecutors are going to havea burden to prove to show that it
is outside of the official duties ofthe president if they're going to charge them.

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So I think it's the right outcome, and there was precedent for this.
Nixon versus Fitzgerald said the president hasabsolute immunity from civil suits for acts
within the outer perimeter of his duties. That was a case from back in
nineteen eighty two. So you know, this decision was not surprising at all
to me. It's just the timingof it, you know, in view

(38:13):
of what's going happened to Joe Bidenthe left, is this going to scream
and scream and scream that presidents cannow go out and murder people, even
though it was specifically addressed in theopinion Premisippi James, I should appreciate your
call as always, man, havea fantastic week, and if we don't
talk of an enjoyable and wonderful IndependenceDay, let's see here. I real

(38:35):
quick. I got a kick outof a Joe Strecker ten best cities to
live in based on culture, education, and more. Joe, I saw
this one. I know exactly whyyou printed it out. Talk about bias.
This Economist Intelligent Unit ei U releasedits annual Global Livability Index, evaluating
cities worldwide for liveability. Are youready? Top ten best cities live in

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the United States? Honolulu, Hawaii, Good luck with getting a place there,
Atlanta, Georgia, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Whatever, Seattle, Washington,
Washington, DC, Chicago, Illinois, Boston, Massachusetts, Miami, Florida,

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San Francisco, California came in atnumber nine, whatever, rounding out
the top ten. Thank you,Liam Minneapolis, Minnesota. Yeah, there's
no bias in that one at all. Jeez, little wheeze. We got
to Nebraska. Closing out the stackof stupid Nebraska man told his Hispanic neighbors
to quote go back to their countryclose quote before shooting seven of them,

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including four children. Described as aracially motivated shooting, died from a self
inflicted gunshot wound. Taking the cowardsway out the murderer. Billy Booth,
seventy four Crete, Nebraska. Boothshot up four kids between the age there
was a three intended a house acrossthe street from his residence Friday afternoon.

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In addition, three adults between theages of twenty two and forty three suffered
gunshot wounds as Booth unleashed a hellof gunfire on his neighbors. Victims not
publicly identified, all suffered down lightthreatening injuries. Idiots Corner Nebraska State Patrol
Colonel John Bulldock investigators still actively workingin this investigation. We understand everything that

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occurred, but at this point,we don't believe there was any verbal contact
between the suspect and any of thevictims in the moments that led up to
the shooting. Officers previously had respondedto a single report from the victims that
the suspect had flipped them off andtold them to go home or back where
they came from, and to speakEnglish. Incidents that preceded the gunfire.

(40:50):
Idiot five fifty six, fifty fivecars of the talk station, Feel free
to call. I got plenty oftalk about coming up up. You can
stick around. It's kind of hardto keep cool. We know that there's
other people running the country and thetopics are so heated. How do we
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seedy talk station right t I'm sright here, wishing you a very happy
Tuesday and expressing pleasure that Joe Streckeris back where he belongs. He enjoyed
his long weekend. I hope anyway, coming up in an hour from the
Hudson Institute, He'll be in studio. Bringhi McCown returns to talk about the
Chevron decision, which has some significantimplications and ramification. It's going to require

(41:35):
Congress to actually do its job.Get to that in a moment. We'll
also get it with Briga, Mcalwalmand no Our. Scott's Sicara, a
host of Deprogramming with Grace's Dad podcast, and he's realized he had been programmed
to believe a litany of things thatweren't true after the medical murder of his

(41:57):
daughter, Grace Sicara, beautiful nineteenyear old with Down syndrome, died October
thirteenth, twenty twenty one, ina hospital after being given a lethal combination
of meds. Wow. Heavy conversationcoming up at seven point forty with Scott,
followed by Inside Scoop but Bright BartNews every Tuesday at eight oh five.

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Today the return of legal expert KenKolkowski, who's going to be talking
about the Trump Scotus decision. Well, it's not Trump's Scotus decision. It's
the scope of presidential immunity decision thatcame down significant implications, most notably for
the current or for the former president, but in a very appropriate, sound,
logical, reasonable decision presidents would behamstrung and they have their hands tied

(42:44):
if they had to factor in theidea that some idiot out there might sue
them for acts that they do inthe within the scope of the presidency,
within the scope of presidential powers.Outside the scope of those powers, he
does not enjoy immunity a presumption ofimmunity. But a prosecutor who says,
hey, listen, the president engagedin criminal activity had nothing to do with
this job as president, they canbe prosecuted fair enough. So unlike the

(43:08):
left who's running around screaming now thatDonald Trump can go and kill someone or
have the military go out and killa political opponent, No he can't.
And the justices said that very specifically, in spite of the fact that the
three liberal justices were making assertions withintheir opinion along those lines. I mean,
Roberts even came back and said,I don't know what the descent is

(43:30):
talking about. I told them,no, this is not what our ruling
holds. Anyway, we'll get totalk about that with legal expert Ken Kolkowski
at eight h five. We'll alsodo the deep dive with Daniel Davis A
thirty for Daniel every Tuesday. Todaywe'll ask maybe he'll answer the question,
is Leelensky dragging a distracted America intoWorld War Three? Also? UV safety

(43:54):
and skin cancer, we'll be talkingabout that with OHC my cancer doctors at
eight cares. We're gonna learn aboutskin cancer, dangerous stuff. So use
some sunscreen. I have a feelingthey're gonna recommend that. Anyhow, the
Chevron decision real quick, because it'sgonna have broader implications and may even save

(44:15):
your internal combustion engine. So thissix' three ruling overturn this old precedent
that wasn't even really been using.It's a sort of you know, it's
a subtle, nuanced point. Butthe Chevron decision has not been cited or
referred to by a court for overten years. It was on the wane.
This one put the ultimate nail inthe coffin. It required courts to

(44:42):
defer to agencies interpretation of laws thathave been passed. Now, Congress quite
often passes laws that are at minimumambiguous, quite often confusing, sometimes that
don't even make any sense. It'sif you think maybe they didn't even read
it before they pass, which happensall the time. So under the Chevron

(45:05):
decision, if someone ran into courtthey say that, well, you know,
this is this is beyond the scopeof any authority that Congress provided.
No, they cannot regulate a tablespoonof water that is not a navigable waterway.
Navigable waterway was used by Congress neverintended it to include a tablespoon of
water on private land. You gointo court, you make the argument.
Under Chevron, the courts are requiredto defer to the agency if their interpretation

(45:29):
was reasonable. Defer to them doesn'tmean that, you know, but they
gave them tons and tons of leewayto do things like regulate tablespoons of water.
In this particular case, the onethat overturned Chevron, fishers, fishermen,
you know, people in boats,challenge a twenty twenty federal rule that

(45:50):
had them paying for federal agencies tomonitor their catch. So you're you have
a boat, you got a federalgovernment agents that it is charged with monitoring
your catch so you don't overfish oryou know, violate the laws that are
on the books. They decided intwenty twenty that the captain has to pay
for that, or the owner ofthe boat has to pay for the administrative

(46:14):
agent to be on the boat.Like what, So they went to court.
They said the original law as writtendid not envision such a payment requirement.
Agency was acting legally illegally rather inpassing the compliance costs onto privately owned
boats. It's like, what thehell do you think our taxpayer dollars are
for now? Lower courts had sidedwith the agency, citing Chevron and the

(46:37):
principle that bureaucratic action have to begiven deference when the underlying law is unclear
and an agency's interpretation is considered reasonable. It's a pretty broad standard. Well,
yeah, that's reasonable. You knowit's within the confines. You know,
the law is not clear on thistopic. So we'll just defer to

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the agency's to write these rules andregulations and edicts and mandates. Behind the
scene, Chief Justice John G.Roberts said, now, Chevron wrong,
and this is we're finally getting ridof it, in spite of the fact
that we pretty much have legally gottenrid of it. By this point,
courts must exercise their independent judgment anddeciding whether an agency is acted within its

(47:22):
statutory authority. That's required under whatis known as the Administrative Procedures Act.
And Hees pointed that out careful attentionto the judgment of the executive branch may
help inform that inquiry. And whena particular statute delegates authority to an agency
consistent with constitutional limits, courts mustrespect the delegation while ensuring that the agency

(47:45):
act within it. The courts neednot and under the APA Administrative Proceders Act
may not defer to an agency interpretationif the law simply of the law,
simply because the statute is ambiguous.So you've got an ambiguously written law.
Thank you Congress for being unclear onit. And they do this on purpose.

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Up until this decision, Congress quiteintentionally would do this. It's loaded
with leftist Green New Deal people behindthe scene. Look, if we just
write this thing lucy goosey enough,you know our pals and the Administrative Agency
will heap down upon all these evilcarbon producers and right rules and regulations.
And how maybe even get the costof doing government business paid for by charging

(48:30):
the fishers, the fishermen on theboat the price of hiring and paying for
a government regulator. This says no, you can no longer do that.
Ultimately, now, just pointing outthat Congress needs to do a better job
of writing laws and can no longerexpect these federal agencies to clean up their

(48:52):
poorly written messes. Well done rightnow. Pivoting over to how this might
have an impact Biden Administration's new andthe new is a good point here strict
tailpipe emission standards. These are theones where they want to force you into
electric vehicle by making the tailpipe missionstandards so high that the manufacturers are going

(49:13):
to be required to manufacture electric vehiclesthat nobody wants just so they can meet
these outrageous limitations and physically impossible.Basically tailpipe emissions, the limits which EPA
finalized only a few weeks ago,now may be in jeopardy because of the
Supreme Court ruling here in this casethat throughout Chevron hm hmm, Shery Jackman

(49:40):
environment a litigator and a compliance councilorGreenberg Glusker, a firm in Los Angeles
speaking with Reuters, saying, youknow, there have been long standing debates
about whether and to what extent theUS EPA has the authority to regulate emissions
from mobile sources. In fact,the American Petroleum Institute has already sued the

(50:04):
EPA over the new emission standards.Their senior vice president and general counsel said,
the EPA has exceeded its congressional authoritywith this regulation that will eliminate most
new gas cars in traditional hybrids fromthe US markets in less than a decade.
So you've got the new Supreme Courtdecision which says you no longer have
to defer to the administrative agencies inthis ambiguous situation. They're making the argument

(50:27):
that the law does not give theadministrative agencies the authority to regulate the tailpipe
emissions. Let's get this over anddone with. Maybe we'll put a stake
in the heart of the EPA andits efforts to take away our internal combustion
engines for us or from us.This then would require what for all the
people out there screaming a whale andan ashing teeth and oh my god,
we're all going to die because pollutantsare going to kill us. Not so

(50:49):
the evil of the internal combustion engineis it's got an existential threat to our
human existence. Well, then Congressis going to have to pass the law
specifically authorizing the EPA to micromanaging regularall the tailpipe emissions. It ain't over.
Like I said before, and likethe Chevron case that just came down
said, its forces Congress to writelaws more specifically and not allow the administrative

(51:12):
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moment. Chuck ingramon fifty five KRC, the talk station six twenty one.
If you got KR see the talkstation. Happy Tuesday to you. Let
us see here trying to figure whichway to go on this one. There's

(53:52):
a good one. In terms ofcord action, we have a outstanding new
opinion blocking the Biden ministrys ban onliquid natural gas exports, the world's clamoring
from more liquid natural gas, andthe Biden administration of course clamp down on
exporting liquid natural gas on a whim, waving the executive pen around in the

(54:13):
name of environmentalism. That was Januarytwenty sixth. They stopped all new approvals
of LNG exports to non free tradeagreement countries immediately. White House and Energy
Department explained at the time that thepause would give federal officials an opportunity to
conduct a rigorous environmental review to assessthe impact of new liquid natural gas projects

(54:37):
on carbon emissions. They said theywould take over a year to complete that
review, So no exporting a liquidnatural gas until we're done with our environmental
review. Well, a federal judgeissue to Rulin yesterday said that no,
you can't do that, blocking theBiden administration's ban on these new exports or

(55:00):
to lookal fight natural gas more thana dozen states challenged at US District Court
to Western District Louisiana granted the multistate coalition regress for the preliminary injunction.
Now that stops the ban on theliquid natural gas exports from taking effect while
the case plays out. In otherwords, when you grant a puliminary injunction,
the court is basically saying out loudthat the plaintiffs in this particular case,

(55:22):
these more than a dozen states,have a likelihood of success on the
merits of the case. There's noreason to put this law, allow this
law to go forward when the courtwill likely find it to be well unlawful
or outside of the scope of theirauthority. The attorney West Virginia Attorney General
Patrick Morrissey. You know, sothis is a big win for the county's

(55:45):
energy or a country's energy industry,and that millions of jobs that supports against
the attack from the Biden administration tofurther its radical climate agenda at the expense
of our economy. He went onto say, the administration Energy Department has
no such authority to justify this ban. Authority only matters like this lies with
Congress and Congress alone. Going backto the arguments that we were talking about

(56:08):
in the case that overruled Chevron,Where did you get the authority to do
this? That has to be alaw. The opponents of this ban pointed
out the Administration's actions come in contrastto a presumption in favor of exports under

(56:30):
the Natural Gas Act. That's alaw which contains a presumption in favor of
these exports. Why well, becauseenergy producing states in private industry rely on
the exports to actually, you knowit, lives, thrive and survive as
a business. West Virginia among themore than the twenty two states that sent

(56:51):
a letter in February to the Bidenadministration hey saying don't pause LNG exports.
The coalition's motion for the Prelminary injunctionargued that the ban on these export projects
threatens jobs and tax revenue in thestates like West Virginia that get from the
natural gas produced in their states.They are harmed specifically justifies the cause of
action. So chalk another victory upand hopefully, in light of the overruling

(57:16):
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five fifty on AT and T phonebringing the count in studio from the Hudson
and Suit the top of the airNEEWS talk about Chevron among other guests.
We got this Supreme Court immunity decisionat eight oh five with Breitbird inside scoop
legal expert Ken Kolkowski let us seeover the local stories. Got three people

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dead a couple injured after shooting inCoryville near core in Coreyville happened early yesterday
morning. Courting to the corridor inhis office, five men in total were
shot. Captain Mark Burns said policeheard the gunshots near E C. University
Avenue in Highland about ten till threein the morning. You see sending a
letter on alert on X telling studentsof police were responding to the area.

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Another alert sent at quarter after threein the morning stadium and the shooting occurred
near the campus. Police showed upin the scene. They found four victims,
according to Officer Burns, one personpronounced dead on the scene, two
others taking a UC medical center wherethey were pronounced dead a courd to Burns.
One of the victims self transported toa hospital across town. And another

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was taken to a hospital with nonlife threatening injuries. Lieutenant Cunningham with the
SINCINNTI Police Department said that both individualsare in stable condition. Officer Burne said
someone on the scene ran into ahouse with a weapon and there was a
brief standoff. Person taken into custody, but Burne said that they are unsure
if the individual was the shooter.They gave an all uc gave an all

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clear alert about ten till four inthe morning. Part of East University Avenue
was closed for several hours. Policedidn't release any of the victim's identities,
and anybody with information is asked tocall crime Stoppers at five one, three
three five two thirty forty three fivetwo thirty forty. Winners are of our
biggest du Se of the University Awardthose who vandalize two Jewish cemeteries, knocking

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over more than one hundred and seventyheadstones. Sue Suskin, executive director of
the Jewish Cemeteries of Greater Cincinnati,said she was shocked at the level of
vandalism. She goes, we wentout there today expecting to see a bunch,
but there was actually about one hundredand seventy six that were down two
cemeteries vandalize Tiffreth Israel and beth Hammer. Drash hagitall Saska and said that they're

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working with local police and the FBIinvestigating because it is a crime that recurred
on religious grounds, and of courseshe believes the vandalism was an anti antisemitic
attack given the volume. I thinkthat's a reasonable conclusion. They are now
holding off on telling families if anyparticular headstone is damaged because of the ongoing

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investigation, but they are working toidentify the headstones and they will ultimately let
family members know. They are alsoraising money for the cost of repairing and
replacing them, so if you're interested, make a donation to the Jewish Cemeteries
of Greater Cincinnati for that particular purpose. I can't believe people are such jerks.
Well, sadly, I can believeit. Man is dead after being

(01:02:52):
shot by a police officer Taylor millhappened on Sunday corner to Kentucky State Police.
Officers responded to Grant Avenue about threepm for report of a person with
a weapon. Press release from TaylorMillset. Officers encountered the suspect inside the
home threatening someone in wielding a knife. A shot was fired. The Kentucky
State Police responded to investigate. Theydid report the man died on the scene.

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Suspect name has yet to be yetto be released. Kent County coomwell
With attorney Rob Sanders said no officerswere injured during the incident, which is
a great thing. He pointed outthat the family member who was threatened with
a knife did not require medical treatment, also a good thing. Taylor Mill
Police said no longer any threat tothe public. Encourage anybody with information to

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call the Kentucky State Police at numbereight five nine four two eight twelve twelve
four two eight twelve twelve. Secondtime police officers had to shoot somebody in
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And while we're all worried about thestate of the affairs, of course,
given the aftermath of debate, alot of people talking about the rest of
the world, the world leaders,many of whom are not friendly with us,
struggling with the outcome of the debate. Most of our friends and the

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European Union countries are big Biden fans. Apparently, at least that's what I
keep reading. Many wondering if VladimirPutin is watching or Jijien Pen was watching
to maybe look at the opportunity asone of weakness in the United States of
America, where the commander in chiefcan't manage in ninety minutes worth of debate,
can't even manage worth fifteen minutes worthof debate before like completely imploding.

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And E've been paying attention to theChinese Communist Party and they're antics in the
South China Sea. I've been watchingthat now for years, building military bases,
threatening the Philippines, threatening in someway, shape or form, Japan,
South Korea, the entire region,and moving into Cuba. Have you
seen the Chinese generally speaking and nothinggets a qualify because you know, people

(01:08:02):
tend to take your words out ofcontext. No, I'm not being racist
against Chinese people. This is aform of government that I am critical of,
the authoritarian Chinese Communist Party regime.If you embrace them, if you
work with them, if you likewhat they're doing, then I have a

(01:08:23):
problem with you. Regardless of whatnationality you are, there are many Chinese
people who don't like their government.Look what happened at Jenamen Square. They
were trying to have democratic reform,and of course they the government shows that
as an opportunity to re embrace doubleand triple down on Chinese Communist Party oppression

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and roll over their own citizens withtanks. So when I'm being critical of
the Chinese period, I am talkingabout the Chinese Communist Party. Now,
can we clear the air on thatone? Who gonn to have this out
of context moment? Like there's somegood people on both sides shut up.
Anyway, nobody of Chinese nationality operatesoutside of the approval of the Chinese Communist

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Party, And we've had reports ofmany Chinese businesses, ergo Chinese Communist Party
business, buying up vast quantities ofreal estate here in the United States,
much to the chagran and concern ofat least some of our elected officials.
Well, they're moving into Cuba.Images captured from space showed the growth of
Cuba's electronic eavesdropping stations that are believedto be linked to China. Apparently they

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got some new construction as well asa previously unreported site mere seventy miles from
Guantanamo Bay Naval Base. Journal reportingon this. It was a study that
they released from the Center for Strategicand International Studies, Washington based think tank,
which supports reports last year by TheWall Street Journal the China and Cuba

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were negotiating closer defense and intelligence ties, including establishing new joint military training facility
on the island, as well asan eavesdropping facility. Now a year ago
that was reported the Cuba and Chinawere jointly operating the eavesdropping stations on the
island. It couldn't be determined which, if any of those are included in

(01:10:15):
the sites covered by this new CSISreport, but they've got them apparently,
these officials. The analysts say thatthey used these stations to scoop up sensitive
electronic communications from American military bases,space launch facilities, and military commercial shipping

(01:10:39):
Chinese facilities on the island. Acord of the report could also bolster China's
use of telecommunications networks to spy onUS citizens. According to the author of
the CSIS report, after analyzing yearsworth of satellite imagery, they found Cuba
has significantly upgraded and expanded the electronicspying facilities in recent years, and pinpointed

(01:11:02):
four sites at Behukau, El Sala, Salao, Waihei, and Calbasar.
Calabas are probably pronouncing wrong apologies tothe Cuban people. That one site,
that Behukal site they previously then identifiedas listening potes, but the new satellite

(01:11:23):
imagery shows it uh well growth andlinks with chinacord to the CIS, CSIS
and other reporter of Chief author theseare active locations with an evolving mission set,
and it comes amid growing concerns aboutthe well competition in the Caribbean and

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elsewhere in Latin America by China.China building a megaport on Peru's Pacific coast,
and you may have noticed it wasn'tthat long ago. Russia sent a
nuclear powered submar to Cuba's Havana Harbor, and its annual Threat Assessment, released

(01:12:08):
in February of the US intelligence communitysaid publicly for the first time that China
is pursuing military facilities in Cuba.Didn't provide any additional details beyond that,
But Cuban missile crisis anyone except thistime probably won't be the Russians. It'll
probably be China making inroads literally everywherearound the road. While apparently the Biden
administration is asleep at the wheel andhelping build China's military by forcing US to

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three talk looking forward to U talkingto Briga McGowan at the top of the
our news with the Chevron, theSkotis decision, and the inside scoop.
Ken Kolkowski, the legal expert thereat Breitbart on the Trump immunity It wasn't
Trump immunity case. I keep checkingCavin to stop myself. Presidential immunity,

(01:15:28):
broad immunity enjoyed by presidents for presidentialactions, and know that does not mean
and they specifically stated that the president'sfree to go out and murder people.
Man, the left is losing it, but you know, I think they're
losing it more as a distraction awayfrom our discussions ongoing. They are about
the failure of Joe Biden to showup at the debate last week. This
provides them wonderful cannon fodder for theleftists who don't under even understand or will

(01:15:51):
bother reading the opinions to know whatthe ramifications are. And if the left
was right, and they are screamingthat the Supreme Court has now given the
president's free leeway to literally do anythingthat they want, why doesn't Joe Biden
just go out murdered Donald Trump.That's the suggestion they're making. In fact,

(01:16:17):
there's a baby Seep reporter who actuallysaid that the other day, some
guy named David Ranovic. Quote.If I was Biden, I'd hurry up
and have Trump murdered on the basisthat he's a threat to America's society close
quote hashtag scotus on that one.Great he got a little bit of backlasher

(01:16:40):
saying something like that on the raidon the out loud. But there it
is for all to see. AndI'm no fan of the death penalty.
You know that anybody who's listened tome for a while, this state having
the ability to take away a life, hmm, how about that to kill
somebody? And I know there's somereally agreed as circumstances which scream out for

(01:17:01):
justice, and that justice includes insome cases the death penalty perhaps, But
you know, if you have it. In some cases, the opportunity for
abuse exists. And I know thereare people out there who don't necessarily trust
law enforcement, who don't believe thatin all cases that the facts have been
presented to the jury, that maybeevidence has been withheld, maybe that there
are evil prosecutors out there in theworld who might go after someone, maybe

(01:17:25):
based on politics or something else.So if they can do it on that
realm, then they could have anopportunity to take away someone's life. And
if there is that opportunity, tome, that's enough to say the state,
you can't take away a life.But then the conversation turns to pedophiles,
and that's when you kind of haveme. And Tennessee now has joined

(01:17:49):
Florida, Arizona, Idaho, Oklahoma, and South Carolina, making the death
penalty a possibility for criminals convicted ofchild sex abuse. And that's appealing to
me, oddly enough, and perhapsnot to some of my listeners. The

(01:18:09):
only people who oppose this democrats andprogressives. And what are the arguments that
raise? Not an argument that Iwould raise, which is the state shouldn't
have the ability to take someone's lifefrom them. It's a penalty that's just
too great to allow them to have. Now, they say, there's no
reason why child victims need to bedragged back into appeals courts to relieve or

(01:18:32):
relive their trauma if new evidence directlyconcerning the victims comes to light, it's
more expensive to go after pedophiles andwith death penalty than keeping them in prisons
and locked up multiple appeals would traumatizethe victims drudging up memories of the assault.

(01:18:55):
This is the arguments from the Democrats. But as it's pointed out,
these arguments holdally water. And whyis it that Democrats seem to be always
going around and trying to protect pedophiles. States like California have been pushing for
less punishment for similar crimes. Democratlawmakers thwarted multiple attempts in California last year

(01:19:16):
to increase penalties for child sex trafficking. Why might that be leftist activists?
This is reported to run zero HEDEhave consistently asserted, and there's links to
this, you know, the supportfor these comments that the death penalty is
as a punishment for pedophiles is athreat to the LGBT community and the trans

(01:19:38):
community in particular. How is thateven possible. You molest the child,
doesn't matter what community you're in,You've ruined that child's life. And since
you were incapable of rehabilitation, basedupon all the studies on this, if

(01:19:59):
you're attracted to children, you're attractedthe children, and you can't sort of
work through that, then you're anongoing threat to all the children out in
the world. So I don't knowthat's one area where you might convince me
the death penalty is justified. It'sfive sixty six fifty five KRSCITY Talk Station,
Hudson and Suits Bringha Mcowan in studioat the top of the our news
talk about the Supreme Court decision overrulingChevron, and we got a whole lot

(01:20:21):
more come up in the seven o'clockhour at a full eight o'clock hour as
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five KRCD Talk Station. A veryhappy Tuesday to you. Always a good
day to talk to Brigham from theHudson Institute, and today Brigham is back
in studio here at fifty five krS DE Talk Station. Brigham, it's

(01:21:04):
a pleasure to have you here andI always enjoy our conversations. Thanks Brian.
And he has the resume that includesfederal regulators. So you understand the
Administrative Procedures Act, sadly I do. Well. That'll come into play here
when we talk about the Supreme Courtsthrowing finally the final nail on the coffin
on the Chevron decision, which requiredcourts to defer to the behind the scenes

(01:21:29):
administrative agencies interpretation of ambiguously written laws. And therein I emphasize that because that's
the problem. Congress writs a bunchof ambiguous laws and then leaves it to
the guys in the back room tocraft a bunch of rules and regulations go
along with it, and up untilyesterday, courts were required to defer to
those agencies, regardless of how wildand crazy their interpretation is. So before

(01:21:51):
we dive into the details on thatand how it came to be, I
understand the Hudson Institute has an invitationout or the speaker, Mike Johnson is
going to be speaking on the threatto US led world order. That's right.
He'll be there Monday afternoon for akeynote address. And this leads up
to the NATO conference coming up nextweek in Washington, d C. Spoiler

(01:22:14):
alert, Oh wow, Well,you know real quick here and I don't
know where you are on that,but I talk with Daniel Davis do the
Deep Die with Daniel Davis every Tuesdayat eight thirty, and today we're going
to be talking about, you know, is Zelensky dragging a distracted America into
World War three? Talk to himbefore about this, the idea of inviting
Ukraine into NATO. I mean thatseems to me to be absolutely crazy and

(01:22:34):
really just a rubber stamp on usmoving then into war with Russia. Well,
I think Russia does threaten democracy aroundthe world, but I think we
also have to remember that Russia's GDPis equivalent to Italy. They're no longer
the superpower that they used to be. And you know, for Ukrainians,

(01:22:58):
longer the war goes on the workfor us. The longer the war goes
on, and or we can helpthem without getting into World War three,
We're diminishing Russia's ability to do anyfurther aggression. But Brian, you know,
the real big issue is europe arelike the adult kids that have been
living in our basements. Yeah,well past the time, and they've been

(01:23:19):
spending on all of their social programs, not spending on defense exactly. Yeah,
during the seventies, the German armywas fantastic. It's an embarrassment today.
And so you know what I've beentelling our European friends that are panicking
or worried. I said, Look, America has been defending Europe and getting
involved in European wars for a century. It's time you guys grow up,

(01:23:42):
and it's time you guys get outof the basement. We love you,
but we want success for you.So you know what, to get your
own act together, guys, right. Well, one of the downsides of
all this the the alignment of thevarious you know, global powers seems to
have pushed our worst enemies together.Iran, North Korea, Russia, and

(01:24:04):
China now seem to be sort ofaligning militarily. You've got North Korea providing
weapons and drones. Iran is providingdrones and weapons systems to you know,
obviously the terrorists, but also tothe Russians on the front in Ukraine.
So we're creating this solidified alliance ofthe worst actors in the world. And

(01:24:24):
I don't see that we benefit fromthat. But regardless of how you feel
about Russia and its economy, it'srelative strength to Ukraine or NATO. You're
really looking at a potential war thatis beyond Russia. And I go back
to inviting Ukraine into NATO. Thatdoesn't seem to make any sense since that
goes along with a defense obligation.We owe defense to our fellow NATO members.

(01:24:47):
It does unless they strike out Articlefive or make something conditioned upon the
conclusion. But now you're go toyour point. Yeah, the timing's not
right, and I know, ofcourse if I were in Ukraine, i'd
want in NATO two. Too bad, they didn't do it ten fifteen years
ago. Too bad, they gaveup their nukes. Too bad, they
trusted Putin. He's not a niceguy. Look, let's let's be honest.

(01:25:09):
But you know, our hands aregetting somewhat full with China too.
But to your point, this administrationhas done everything they can to punish our
friends and reward our enemies. Theforeign policy, the national security policy of
this administration has been abysmal because theythink everyone acts in the best altruistically.

(01:25:31):
Oh, if we just if wejust talked to a pirate, they won't
be a pirate. If we justtalked to the tear If we just give
it Ron five billion dollars when they'reon the ropes, they'll love us.
It's naive it best. They're takingadvantage of that naivete. There's no question
about it. All right, Well, let's get back on track here with

(01:25:51):
Briga McDonald the Hudson Institute, whowas called in today to talk about the
impact of the Supreme Court overruling thisChevron doctrine. Now this case and what
a bad facts can end up makingreally good law. And the facts were
really bad for the fisheries in thisparticular case. These poor fishermen who were
probably struggling to make a buck anyway, were told by our government that they

(01:26:15):
had to pay for the salary ofthe the federal government monitor on their boat.
That guy's only job is to makesure he's counting the fish that the
fishermen haven't exceeded their daily catch,that they're not bringing in endangered species whatever.
But the idea, it's like mehaving to pay for the cop down
the street, me personally having topay for the policeman to deal with any

(01:26:38):
criminal activity goes on in my neighborhood. That's just where did that rule come
from? Somebody sphinx, behind theroom, behind the scenes. Yeah,
I came from the US Fisheries,from a bureaucrat buried deep inside a government
building in Washington, DC who probablyhas never been on a fishing boat or
a shrimp boat or any other typeof vessel. And that's the problem when

(01:27:01):
we have a bureaucracy that has grownexponentially and is so disconnected. You know,
Brian, when I was leading afederal agency, my first question is
what real world experience does this personhave that you want to hire. Have
they ever been an industry, havethey ever been you know, fill out
the blank. But yeah, it'seven worse than that. It's like you
have to pay for your own policeofficer to stand on your street to make

(01:27:23):
sure you're not speeding when you comehome every night, and you have to
pay for it. It's crazy,and sometimes the payment of the monitors exceeded
the cost of the entire daily catch, totally out of control. And that's
big government saying we can't trust you, Brian, we can't trust you.
Sorry. Well, they can saythey can't trust you, but then again,

(01:27:44):
they can also pay for their ownmonitors. If it's that big of
a deal and that important, thenit requires an allocation of federal tax dollars
being spent to pay the salary forthe person on the boat, offshoring that
expense. Like you said, I'mpaying the cop to monitor my own activity.
That's just it's against my interests.And federal agencies do that all the

(01:28:04):
time whenever they can, especially whenwhen you're the overseer, you can force
companies to do all sorts of things. And sometimes I'll say, well,
that's not in the regulations, andlike, well, yeah, it's not,
but do you want to fish todayor not? Right? Well,
and there are rules about that havebeen passed by Congress involving fish apparently,

(01:28:26):
and it was pursuing it was beneaththese laws, generally, these rather ambiguous
laws that the behind the scenes fisheryfolks decided they were going to force these
boats to pay for the inspectors thatcame out of nowhere because that wasn't a
specifically passed provision in the law.In other words, I guess Congress could
pass the law saying listen, ifyou have a fishing boat in your commercial

(01:28:49):
fisherman, you got to pay fora monitor. If they said that in
a law, there may be someof their tax consequence. There's some of
the reason that they could go tocourt, but at least the provision and
the power would have been specifically identifiedby Congress. In this case, the
rule came out of nowhere and itwasn't connected with anything within that particular law.
It wasn't and the federal agency said, well, look, you know

(01:29:12):
we've got to you know, wefeel like we have to do these monitors.
Congress didn't specifically appropriate money, butyou know, we assumed Congress meant
they had to be paid for bysomebody, and we're interpreting that to say,
not us, not coming out ofour budget. We will just levy
a fee, which is also knownas a tax on the fishermen, and

(01:29:34):
we'll get them to pay for it. But you're right, I mean,
look, when we fly there's anine to eleven post nine to eleven fee
for security. That's part of ouryou know, the taxes on a plane
ticket. But that is the problembecause you know, there is this kind
of unwritten rule wink wink between certainmembers of Congress and federal agencies that we

(01:30:01):
know we should write specific laws,but instead we're going to give you not
a three page law, We're goingto give you a five hundred and fifty
page law with a lot of lucygoosey language. And you know, you
guys make the most of it.It's a scam. That's how this has
been happening right well, And thedecision said, no longer are courts required

(01:30:21):
to give deference to those administrative agencies, those behind the scenes folks creating these
laws. There must be a specificdelegation of authority by Congress to engage to
enact any specific provision. Absolutely,and you and I both know from law
school you don't need that because thereis the rule of statutory construction. You

(01:30:44):
look on the face of the lawand say what does it mean? And
if it's ambiguous, you can goto legislative history, to hearing, to
report committee language. It's not thathard to figure out what was really going
on. And the real question thatwill now have to be answered is did
Congress explicitly authorize it? Because ifnot, then perhaps they can't do it

(01:31:09):
any longer, which is a goodthing, and they can't force the boats
to pay for the inspectors. That'sso say at the Supreme Court in overrolling
that prior Chevron deference. Spawls willbring brig them down from the Hudson Institute
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Brian Thomas with Brigg mcgawan from theHudson Instudens Studio. Spent a lot of

(01:33:41):
time working for the administry, didn'tyou, Administrative State? Didn't you?
Rigor I have and you know what. I was supposed to go back and
be the Associate Deputy Attorney General insixteen and seventeen, but decided I'd had
enough too much of Washington dco much. Well, Brian, I mean,
you know, here's the thing wewere talking about this. I think it

(01:34:02):
is a wonderful public service. Asyou know, I've got twenty five plus
years in the Navy as well,active and reserved, and about five years
in federal government service. But it'schanged a lot. And you know,
federal agencies used to not be political. We hired a lot of veterans after

(01:34:26):
the end of World War Two thatpredominantly made up federal service. The Chevron
case when it was first decided,right, was considered too conservative. Oh
yeah. The liberals were all bentout of shape when that came down because
it was the Reagan administratives, administrativestate and we're going to defer to them.
Oh my god, the horrors.Yeah, and those people said,
we're here to do a job.We're here to carry out the orders of

(01:34:47):
the people appointed over us. That'sactually in the military oath that we always
say, and that is the jobof the career civil servant is not to
have a political perspective. They're agnostic. They carry out the wishes of the
president. Then, you know,when I was there talking to a lot
of these people, I'm like,who do you work for They're like,
I work for the American people.I know you don't you work for the
secretary, and by virtue of thesecretary works for the president, or you

(01:35:11):
work for the Sorry, you workfor me, the administrator, then the
secretary, then the president. Youare part of the executive branch. You
work for the President of the UnitedStates. And they hated that depending on
who's in power, who's in powerthere you go, yeah, well,
and then that takes us back tothe way Congress writes these laws. If
they want a for example, weall kind of have the impression right now,

(01:35:35):
correct me if I'm wrong. Butthe administration state is filled with people
who want to control every component andaspect of our lives. The green religion
is predominant in the Deep States.So anything they can do by way of
creating a rule or regulation involving carbonoutput or environmentalism, generally speaking, they're

(01:35:55):
going to find a whole or anambiguity in the law and do just that.
So there's no incentive by people whoshare that ideology with the administrative state
to make tightly written laws and havelimitating language, knowing full well that the
guys in the back room are ontheir side from that perspective, Yeah,
I think that's largely the case,especially at certain agencies, EPA probably being

(01:36:18):
the first of those. I mean, you know, we don't have a
lot of conservatives that say, Iwant to work at the EPA. Now
I should I wish we did,know, But you know, then there
are some agencies, and some ofthe agencies I was involved with that were
purely safety agencies. You did havea lot of good people, but you
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(01:36:42):
service, Hey, it's a greatdeal. If you go down into the
parking garage, these federal agencies,BMW's audies, Mercedes, thirty days paid
vacation, all of your medical,great retirement plan. It's not bad.
It's not bad, right, Yeah, Well you would know you work for
it, and people want to staythere. And I think a lot of

(01:37:04):
the folks that get attracted to federalservice are people that want to quote,
do good and make the world abetter place. Well, I'd like to
believe that's the case, but Ithink it seems to me more like a
left wing tenured teacher job. Onceyou get in, they're never going to
be able to fire you and youcan accomplish your you know, you're indoctrination

(01:37:25):
from behind the scenes, comfortably,knowing full well that they're not going to
require you to do much work.Yeah, and to that point, it
is almost impossible to fire a federalemployee. And the last time it was
done, I'm going to invoke RonaldReagan, the atrollers. Yeah, they
all went on strike. He said, well they're all fired, and they're
like, you can't do that.He goes, I just did yep,

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seven thirty fifty five KRCS DE talkstation no music here. It is one
more here with bringing mcal from theHudson Institute. We were talking about the
Supreme Court cases we did. Wedealt with the case that overruled the old
Chevron deference doctrine. That was goodnews for us. Also, you wanted
to talk about Ohio versus EPA.This is the don't blow pollutants into my

(01:40:39):
state law that they had on thebooks or reg Yeah. The the EPA
calls it the good Neighbor regulation.I call it the ozone particulate to nowhere
r all. Yeah, and youknow we Brian we have the cleanest air
on record. Yeah, and Chinadoesn't. Yet. We all live in
the same globes. Whatever China hasblows in our direction at some point.

(01:41:00):
So this all is an exercise infutility. It is just like trying to
cut our carbon and greenhouse gas emissionsby ourselves. Uh. Yeah, we
know that. You know, theUS and Europe combined amid the developed world
emits less than China or India.Uh, and it's getting worse. So
Ohio versus e PA was another exampleof a federal agency overreach and Ohio.

(01:41:30):
The Ohio Attorney General Indiana Attorney GeneralWest Virginia, Virginia and a few others
sued on the rule that said,hey, Congress did not authorize this.
Uh, you know, there's athere's a theme here along the same lines.
What we're just talking about is atheme. And there are a whole
host of cases that have come outthis term. And the Supreme Court that
said, well, wait a minute, and thank goodness, and you know,

(01:41:54):
the Court shouldn't have to play referee, but when people get out of
control, they have to. Theyhave to step in because that's our system
of checks and balances. And inthis the Supreme Court said, not so
fast. We're not sure that Congresshas grant you the authority to make these
rules that go beyond the state implementationplans for reducing pollutants. So we're going

(01:42:15):
to kick this back to the lowercourts with instructions. With instructions, thank
you. So we had that,you know, we had a the LNG
pause, which some call a banexport pause, was just paused. Yeah,
Executive pen Biden just out of nowheresays we're just stopping new LNG exports.

(01:42:40):
And despite of the fact the worldhas its hands out looking for more
liquid natural gas, and they're goingto do an environmental review, which is
going to take more than a year. Yeah, and you mentioned this.
I think la Flash are right.And how you know, the Natural Gas
Act is quite clear. It saysthat EPA shall I'm sorry, DOE shall
approve these permits. Well, thefunny thing is this has already been studying

(01:43:00):
twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. TheDepartment of Energy and their technical labs,
the DOE labs came out and said, oh, yeah, you know,
exporting LNG, even if it's acrossthe ocean, that's far better for the
planet than burning other things, right, And the administration said, well,
look, this is not going tostop anything that's currently in the works.

(01:43:21):
And you know, it was fiveyears ago. Except what they forgot to
tell everybody. What they still haven'ttold people, according to my sources,
is DOE did look at this inthe last two years and the answer wasn't
to the liking, and they said, go back and try again. Uh,
they didn't get the result they wanted. No, And the LNG pause

(01:43:43):
came on the heels of the lastcop Environmental Conference. And so look,
it's the left is upset that Americanenergy is being provided to our allies and
friends around the world and superb politics. They'd rather come from the Russians and

(01:44:04):
the the Iranians perhaps, Yeah,the Iranians and share the largest natural gas
deposits along with the Qataris and soyeah, and both are making plans to
ship more. If you ban Americanl G exports. It's not like the

(01:44:26):
world's going to go, oh okay, I guess we can't get that.
I'll have a solar panel please.Yeah, that doesn't happen. No,
They're going to either revert to whateverthey can come up with, or they're
going to buy it from somebody else. And that's what typically happens. And
look eve in spite of all thesanctions and in quote unquote bands on dealing
with Russian oil and petroleum products,they're selling more now than they ever have

(01:44:46):
anyhow. And China is busily buyingup all the coal in the world and
putting it out into the belching itout into the global environment, negating anything
that you and I are doing.We're banging our head against the wall.
Brighamcalland HUDs Inte find on my lineat Hudson dot org. It's always a
pleasure to have in you on andalways even more pleasureable to have you in
studio break. I'll look forward totalking with you again real soon. Thanks

(01:45:09):
Brian, happy forth, Thanks andto you as well. Coming up.
Scott scar the host of Deprogramming withGrace's Dad podcast, sorry about a terrible
medical malpractice situation involving his daughter.We'll get to that coming up next after
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I am pleased to walk Welcome tothe Thinking About KRC Morning Show. Host
of Deep Programming with Grace's Dad podcast, Scott Shara Scott, good to have
you on the fifty five KRC MorningShow, and I wish the circumstances under
which you start your podcast, We'rea little more uplifting. What a tragedy.

(01:48:03):
Well, thanks, Brian, Yea, I hate say that over and
over. A lot of the peopleI've met I wish I would have never
met, but yeah, thankful to, thankful to I've met them. Nonetheless,
Well, why don't you explain tomy listeners, as I'm sure you
have re relayed this story so manytimes in the past, but how you
got to this deprogramming concept the nameof the podcast again Deprogrammed with Grace's Dad.

(01:48:26):
Talk a little bit about your daughter, Grace Shara and what happened to
her. Well, Grace was nineteenyears old, Grace said down syndrome,
and she was murdered in the hospitalon October thirteenth of twenty twenty one.
So I don't say that lightly.It took me about five hundred hours of
investigation to come to that conclusion,and once I did, it started my

(01:48:49):
journey of deprogramming. Because we startwith trusting the white coat and that spills
over to trusting the hospital system.And in grace'scific situation, she was given
a combination of meds to youth euthanizer. She was given precedects or as of
him and morphine in the twenty nineminute window to literally kill her. And

(01:49:11):
when it came time to revive her, the medical staff refused because we learned
now we have we have a lawsuitand we have all the records and it
exposes the details. We learned thatthe doctor could an illegal do not resuscitate
order on Grace's chart to facilitate themurder. And it's it's it's a path
that has led to all kinds ofthings at this point. But that's the

(01:49:36):
short backstory. Brain. What possiblemotivation or motive or dare I say,
even benefit would a hospital have inwanting to murder your daughter without discussing euthanasia
with you? And I know somepeople believe in euthanasia under certain circumstances that
you know, the person is toofar gone or brain dad or whatever.

(01:49:57):
We've been dealing with the quote unquotepull the plugs and are for decades.
But in this particular case, youwere completely in the dark. And this
sounds like you call it murder,that is an intentional killing of another human
being. What is the motivation behindthat? Scott? Well, there's there's
levels of motivation The first level ofmotivation that I had covered is all the

(01:50:18):
way back to nineteen ninety six.In nineteen ninety six, Ezekiel Emmanuel,
who's the chief architect of Obamacare,said that non contributing members of society don't
deserve medical care. So the noncontributing members, of course, are those
on Medicare and Medicaid, that disabledin the elderly. So those are the
low hanging fruit that the system isdesigned to take out in So the excuse

(01:50:45):
they use in taking off of whatEzekiel Emmanuel said is the spirit of collectivism.
We need to worry about the goodof the population versus the good of
the individual. So if you lookat Medicare and Medicaid as a system,
there's a thirty five million Americans onthat system. The cost to the taxpayer
is what they tell us, isapproaching four trillion a year, over fifty

(01:51:09):
percent of the annual federal budget.So they use that as the underlying motivation
to hasten the death. Remember theterm not remember, but hastens means murder,
because if you shorten somebody's life onpurpose, you're murdering them. So
that system is designed to hasten deathand it's specifically because they're telling us the

(01:51:30):
cost is too high. And I'mgoing to get into a deeper level here
in a moment. But if youjust think that through, we write blank
checks to the Ukraine, to Israel, but we can't take care of our
population. So you can see,just on the surface it's a lie.
But if you want to ask aquestion relative to that first brand, I'll
go into the deeper meaning the word, and I certainly will. But I

(01:51:55):
guess in this particular point, andyou made it earlier, your daughter had
Down syndrome. So because she hadDown syndrome, she's been labeled as one
of these leeches on the system andtherefore not worthy of life. Is that
really the final analysis, what thatboils down to. That's that's spot on.
Yeah, my god, it's sodeep, this idea. It's called
the banality of evil. Banality meanscommonplace, So there's an underlying culture of

(01:52:20):
death. And you know, ofcourse, drove down down centerme more than
any other disability, because Grace saiddown center. And as I learned in
my research today, in the UnitedStates of America, ninety percent of down
center and babies are murdered before theyever come out of the womb, and
it's this culture. So the doctor. You think about a young couple going

(01:52:43):
into the doctor, he congratulates themon being pregnant, and then he says,
let's schedule you're amosentisis. And ifthey don't have any roots, they
just blindly follow the white coat.So the white coat says, get an
ameosentesis. The only question they haveis does my insurance cou Oh? Yes,
it does well? Why well?Because they're all in the same the

(01:53:04):
same game. And so when theamniocentesis comes back, the doctor schedules an
appointment. He says, I suspectyour son is going to have Down syndrome
and you should abort him. Whyshould you abort him? Because they've been
trained. I found in my researchBrying a training document relative to adults who

(01:53:25):
have Down syndrome. And this isthe perspective of the of the whole medical
industry follows this. So in thistraining document for doctors relative to how to
treat adults with Down syndrome, theylist them themselves as like the savior to
the family in the document. I'mreading from the document right now. So

(01:53:45):
the lifelong toll on families is high. Part of a robust plan of care
includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcareproviders. So this is their perspective that
we've Their perspective is we need tosave this family from this nasty thing called
downton syndrome. Well, that's ridiculous. Grace was the best thing God ever
gave us, second to salvation.But it's this attitude, this finality of

(01:54:10):
evil that's embedded in the entire system. And it's also I can go down
the exact same parallel with the elderly. But you get the concept. Yes,
I understand completely. Let me I'mgoing to read a quote from the
materials here. The lead in statementis noting that the hospital recorded COVID nineteen
pneumonia quote as the second cause ofdeath, and this is in your daughter's

(01:54:31):
case, as the second cause ofdeath in order for the hospital to receive
the killing bonus from the government.Did they receive some sort of cash incentive
to end your daughter's life? Isthat? Because that's the way I'm reading
that, sir, that's also true. So what COVID exposed so that we'll
call this the COVID era that we'retalking about, which is thirty nine months

(01:54:55):
long. This is the first timethe government directly incentivized hospitals to kill.
So in that case, that hospitalreceived a thirteen thousand dollars death bonus for
labeling Grace's death related to COVID.Well, that's another lie. But this
incentivized healthcare. This has really becomemy mission is to expose incentivize healthcare.

(01:55:16):
So these were checks written directly,well way before checks written directly Medicare and
Medicaid. The CMS, which isCenter for Medicare and Medicaid Services, writes
what's called standards of care. Sostandards of care sounds it sounds good,
you know, we need standards ofcare. Well, standards of care are
designed to hasten death, and CMSrights for the whole country. It doesn't

(01:55:42):
matter if you're on Medicare or Medicaid. They're writing for the whole country.
I'm reading a book right now thatreally emphasizes this idea. It's called dissent
in Medicine. Because we're in nineteeneighty four nine, doctors were speaking out
against the system. They saw theysaw this way ahead of time, so
standards of care started in the eighties. They saw this is this is wrong.
We got to speak out and theywere. The specific chapter that this

(01:56:06):
relates to with the quote I'm goingto give you, is about cancer.
So the standard of care for cancer, which we all know is either cut,
radiation, and chemo and the ifyou just take chemo as an example,
it has a ninety seven point ninepercent kill rate. But that's the
standard of care. So what doesthat mean. It means that in order
for the doctor to get paid,he can only follow the standard of care.

(01:56:29):
He can't recommend any anything outside ofthat standard of care that would actually
cure the patient. So these guyswere, these doctors said specifically as a
result of them exposing these standards ofcare for cancer, they said, a
patient stands a better chance of recoveringif he has never diagnosed. And that's
true because the standard of care,and this is the this is the underlying

(01:56:53):
motivation. Standard of care is designedto hasten death because why we have too
many people. They need to managethe population through these standards of care.
And that's what's happening. That's whyI'm speaking out. The program with Grace's
Dad the name of the podcast,my guest Scott Charlotte, host of that
program, and you know, maybewhat you have done is illustrate why the

(01:57:14):
recommendation was to lock up all ofthese at risk seniors in nursing home facilities
during COVID. COVID spread rapidly withinthem, and we lost a whole lot
of them during that period of time. Any connection there, Scott, odds
of the odds of dying in anursing home were ten times higher during COVID

(01:57:34):
for the same age group, Soan eighty year old man in a nursing
home versus an eighty year old mannot in a nursing home had a ten
times more likely chance of dying usall by design. People think, you
know, they're doing a really goodjob right now, they meaning the cabalists
are doing a really fantastic job ofgetting us to think COVID is over and

(01:57:56):
everything's back to normal. No,it's it's not back to normal. This
This is what is that. Thisis the status of quote American medicine and
quote care, Yes exactly. Findyour podcast online good iHeart Media. You
can find the on the iHeart Mediaap Deprogramming with Grace's dad, Scott Shaah.
I wish we had a more upliftingconversation. But this is important information.
I'm sure my listeners are very happyto have heard from you. Keep

(01:58:18):
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You're glad you did reporting on thingsand great reporting. It is things you
will not find in the mainstream mediaand very very important subject matters including legal
opinions and analysis. And today returnin the fifty five Krcsey Morning Show Bright
Bart News legal expert Ken Kolkowski.Ken, good, you have you back
on the program, and a happyTuesday to you, sir, Hey,
thanks so much, Brian, it'sgreat to be with you. Well,

(02:00:01):
you'd think after the Supreme Court Immunitydecision presumptive immunity under the six' to
three decision, that the President ofthe United States of America could go ground
murdering people, which is literally whatsome of the elected officials are saying in
the aftermath of that, and eventhree of the Supreme Court justices seem to
be of that mindset that is inno way shape or didn't they read the
opinion? Ken, I mean,well, not only did they not read

(02:00:26):
the opinion, there was actually anamakus bray filed by former combat generals and
by America First Policy Institute AFPI thatactually was solely dedicated to explaining how that
cannot happen under military law and underfederal civilian They just went like, step

(02:00:47):
by step through Now, by theway, you don't need to worry about
like a president murdering people because andthey walked through it step by step,
and none of that shows up inthis dissenting opinion. They don't cite to
the brief, they don't discuss it. I mean, it's so what they
said was just like, and Isay this with all due respect, it
was an uninformed, counterfactual commentary.They were describing a fantasy world. They

(02:01:14):
were describing an alternate reality, onethat does not exist in this universe.
And so it was just the bizarrestthing. It was like something from a
movie. And again, if itwas something that wasn't even presented to the
justices, then you would say,well, it'd be nice if they would
actually do their own research on this, because this is a big deal.
But to have a brief directly onpoint that actually walks you through every aspect

(02:01:39):
of this to show why it's notthe case, and then just to put
in the dissenting opinion, Hey,this is a problem. Not just citing
to that brief, not doing anythingto like rebut the points in that brief.
I'm honestly wondering whether the justices clerkslike never even read the brief.
It's just bizarre to me, absolutelybizarre, or ken read the majority opinion.

(02:02:00):
Roberts had a copy of the dissent, and he even went back to
dissent and Roberts wrote in the majorityas to the descents, they strike a
tone of chilling doom that is whollydisproportionate to what the Court actually does today,
coming up short on reasoning, Thedescent repeatedly leveled variations of the accusation
that the Court has rendered the presidentabove the law. That is not what
the Court did. And they evenpointed out it's you know, This just

(02:02:24):
illustrates without any question how who Imean, who the politicized folks on the
Supreme Court are. I mean,they put that in there just to give
talking points to the left, andI think obviously which has served the left
well because it took away everybody's focuson Joe Biden's cognitive inabilities on full display
last Thursday. Here's a distraction,the evil Supreme Court and the end of

(02:02:46):
democracy, and now presidents can gomurdering people. I guess this is what
they're saying. Yeah, I haveI'm an officer of the court, and
I have an active practice in frontof the US Supreme Court, So I
won't question the thinking or motives behindany of that. I certainly certainly people
who do not have practices before theSupreme Court can you know, can be

(02:03:11):
whatever opinions they like. The soI'm not sure how they got there,
it is. I mean, youknow, I read as I read dissenting
opinions almost daily, and sometimes Iagree with this. You know, there
are many descents that I agree with. You know, there are many of
them like, well, this descentshould be the majority opinion. But so

(02:03:32):
of course, so often you're readingthe dissenting opinion, and you're like,
well, I mean, it's areasonable position, but it's just wrong.
It's not even closed. It's deadwrong. But at least it's reasonable.
This one isn't even reasonable. Andthat that for the life of me,
and I hear what you're saying.I do not know what drove such a
dystopian you know, they're describing somemad mac scenario or some Hunger Games type.

(02:03:58):
You know, it's like, allright, is not you know,
the United States of America in theYear of Our Lord twenty twenty four,
like on planet Earth in reality?You know, it's none of that stuff
is happening, nor is it evenon the table, but it is set
aside the Supreme Court. It iscertainly you know, you get a block

(02:04:18):
of the party that's currently the rulingparty, the party in power, where
they are saying these utterly insane things, and it's whipping people up. I
mean, this really shows the stakesof the election in November, because it
seems like our very form of governmentis being put at risk when you get

(02:04:41):
political leaders who are denouncing the legitimacyof a coequal branch of government, the
branch whose role is to protect usagainst a majority or those in power who
actually cross the line of our constitutionutional rights. I mean, it's like
the courts are the final recourse ofpeople who do not currently hold office.

(02:05:05):
It is the safeguard of our freedomsagainst government overreach. And you know,
but that only works so far asthe consensus of society is that this third
branch of government, you know,has a role under the supreme law of
the land that must be respected andadhered to. Well, let us talk

(02:05:26):
about bright Bart News legal expert KenKolkowski the impacts for Donald Trump. Specifically,
this opinion transcended Donald Trump. Itwas the presidency as an office and
what needs to be deemed within thecore plenary powers and therefore immune from anybody's
sort of hindsight going after him andthose that are outside of the core powers
of the executive. So, lookingat the underlying charges against Trump, it

(02:05:49):
looks like the Supreme Court has alreadywhittled away a couple of them, but
has remanded the case back down tothe trial court level to see if these
official of these were official acts outsor within the core acts of presidency.
So where are we on that component? Yeah, that's right. The Supreme
Court pretty much says that every actthat a president takes while in office falls

(02:06:11):
in one of three buckets. Oneis his core constitutional official duties, and
that's a short list, and thatthings within that are just totally off the
table. They can never be usedas part of a prosecution against them,
they cannot be introduced as evidence againstthem. And they specify a couple of
things. They're like when the presidentdecides to recognize a foreign nation. So

(02:06:34):
for example, that would been PresidentTrump moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv
to Jerusalem in twenty eighteen. Thatwould be an example of that power.
One that they give relevant to thefacts of these prosecutions is they say,
when a president speaks to his attorneygeneral, that is exercising a core constitutional

(02:06:56):
prerogative that is totally off the table. Then they say, then you have
the second bucket, which are officialacts. And anything that is within the
outermost perimeter of his official acts apresident enjoys is presumed. You start with
the presumption that he is absolutely immune, and that presumption can only be overcome

(02:07:19):
by a prosecutor. So the burdenis on the prosecutor for a prosecutor to
show it's not an official act.You can criminalize this without impairing the authority
of the executive branch or the functioningof the executive branch. And then you
have the third bucket, which arenon official acts, like private acts.

(02:07:39):
Like if a president, any president, is walking down the street at an
event and just punches some guy inthe mouth, Well, he's not immune
from that after he leaves office becausethat was not any part of his being
president. You know, any grownman could have thrown a punch. So
it was a purely private act andthere'll be no immunity that attaches to it

(02:08:00):
whatsoever. So the Supreme Court said, you have those three buckets specified several
things in that first category that aretotally off there. They are totally off
the grid. Can't touch those.Then for the rest, the majority took
serious fault with how the lower courtshave done this, that they've not developed

(02:08:20):
the record, that they were ina sprint to take this to trial.
And the Court really took him totask both both the d C. District
Court, which is, you know, the trial judge there, and the
d C Circuit Appeals Court in termsof how they reviewed it. So they
said, we're vacating everything, meaningyou know, for the non lawyers listening
to us, that they're striking fromthe books everything that's been done in this

(02:08:43):
regard. They are remanding it backdown to the trial court for evidentiary hearings
that will go fact by fact throughall the facts in the indictment, again
aside from the ones that the SupremeCourts say are in that first category,
like anything about Trump talking to hisaga. You don't even bring that up.
That is just off limits for allof these others to go fact by

(02:09:05):
fact through it. Because they saidwhether it's an official act or not official.
They say whether it's a speech,something he says in a speech or
a tweet that he sends out.Some of them can be official, some
of them aren't. It will dependboth internally on their content and externally of

(02:09:26):
their context with surrounding facts. Andit's going to take a lot of work
by the trial judge. And thenthis is key that all of this must
be done before trial, and thenwhatever those rulings are as a package,
the president has the right to interlocutoryappeal to an immediate appeal before trial,

(02:09:46):
even all the way back up tothe US Supreme Court a second time to
have all of that reviewed, andall that would have to happen before Donald
Trump ever has to sit for anothertrial. And that is a long time.
I mean someone who has a longtime as a litigation for sixteen years
when I was actively practicing, Andit's a long time. What you just
said that You're looking at that andyou're like, okay, not only is

(02:10:09):
that not November of twenty twenty four, I'm not sure how you're going to
get there by November of twenty twentyfive, I know. Okay. So
all that being said, Ken,I've been remissing my obligations here to not
give you an opportunity to talk aboutwhat would have happened had the Minority Provision
or Minority Justices position prevailed. Whatwould this have opened any future president up

(02:10:30):
to or even maybe the blind administration? Oh sure, and we can give
a couple real life examples of howthis would totally blow up the institution of
the presidency. It's where Harry Trumandropped two nuclear bombs. Two atomic bombs
on Japan killed hundreds of thousands ofnoncombatants, including women and children. If

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Harry Truman would have been subject tolike two hundred thousand charges of murder for
that. I mean, it's notan issue of well, would you have
been convicted? Is it military necessity? What can you be charged with it?
Can you spend the rest of yourlife going trial after trial at risk
of life, imprisonment or the deathpenalty for it to come? Much more

(02:11:18):
recently, just a couple presidents back, Barack Obama ordered the airstrike against anwar
al Alaki, and a sixteen yearold boy was killed as part of that,
who was a US citizen, whowas a non combatant, who had
no ties to terror, just happenedto be in close proximity to someone who

(02:11:39):
was a sixteen year old American citizenwas killed by order of the President of
the United States, with no dueprocess, no court proceedings, etc.
Now, stuff like that, Terriblethings happened during military operations. That's part
of what a president as commander inchief has to order when they are making

(02:12:01):
proper military decisions, not this crazystuff about assassinating your rivals. That's a
whole separate conversation as to how bizarrethat was and how you know, unrealistic.
But I mean a president making actualmilitary decisions, you know, an
innocent person could be killed like that, including even American citizens. No president

(02:12:22):
would be able to perform the dutiesof their office if they knew that for
the rest of their life once theyleave office on any given day in a
county with close to three thousand countyprosecutors and the whole federal government that may
be controlled by the other political party, that every day, for the rest
of your life, you may bebrought up on fellow ney charges for countless
things bring the office of the presidencyto a screeching halt. And that's exactly

(02:12:45):
what the court was addressing. KenKolkowski. It's always a pleasure to talk
with you. I appreciate your legalanalysis and I recommend my listeners read what
you have to write at Breitbart dotcom. Definitely bookmarket and Ken, I
look forward to having back on theprogram real soon. I would have you
have a wonderful Independence Day. Thankyou, sir, you as well,
God blessed. Appreciate it. Takecare. Tate nineteen coming up at eight
twenty fifty five KRST talk station comingup with the on fifty five talk station

(02:13:11):
A twenty nine fifty five krc DEtalk station. Happy Tuesday coming up In
the next segment, it is UVSafety Awareness Month. My cancer doctors,
ohc We're gonna hear from one ofthem, uh, doctor Suzanne Partridge.
And skin cancer is the most commonform of cancer in the United States.
So we're gonna learn about it,what it is, how you can well
try to prevent it. In themeantime, it's that time of week for

(02:13:31):
another Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Youcan find them online just search for Daniel
Davis Deep Dive wherever you get yourpodcasts, including iHeartMedia. Get the iHeartMedia
app at fifty five care sea dotcom. Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant Colonel,
Welcome back, sir. It isalways a pleasure of having you on
the fifty five KRC Morning Show andalways a pleasure to be here. Thanks
for having me. Situation still goingon in Ukraine. You know in this

(02:13:52):
when the Russians first rolled in Ukraine, how long do you think they thought
it was gonna take to achieve whatevermilitary goal they were hoping to achieve?
And maybe you can even answer thequestion what military goal were they hoping to
achieve when they invaded Ukraine? BecauseI don't think they thought we were going
to take it lying down. Yeah, I think you can now say with

(02:14:13):
with or at least I can saywith some amount of confidence that the initial
objective when Russia entered was that theythought it was a big, huge show
of force that would cause the Ukrainiangovernment to coalesce and to give in and
just do what he asked, makethe negotiations that he wanted, similar to
what happened in Hungary in nineteen fiftysix, where they rolled in with a

(02:14:35):
bunch of tanks into Budapest and itwas relatively small violence. The government capitulated
and did what he asked to do, and I think that's what he thought
was going to happen. Instead hegot the worst case scenario was that the
Ukraine's side not only didn't give up, but turned into fierce fighters, and
Putin did not have enough troops todo that, to handle that kind of
a big fight, and so hemade a huge strategic blunder in sending too

(02:14:58):
future troops in or handle the worstcase scenario. But the problem is that
was still a robust number, andnow he can't back down. So it
took almost a year and a halfto get a four size enough to actually
be able to conquer territory of thenature that he wanted, and now that's
where he's at. I will saythat Biden said during that debate the other

(02:15:20):
night that what a lot of peoplesay was that, oh, they thought
they were going to capture Kiev infive days and they failed. No,
they never thought they would capture thecity with only about fifty thousand troops that
were assigned to that portion of thefight. So that was never their intention.
But they did expect the Ukraine sidedto give up, and that was
a pretty big blunder. It was. But I want to ask you about
the idea that the government would capitulate. Didn't we offer Zelensky a flight out

(02:15:46):
when he said no, no,I don't want an air flo I don't
want an airplane lift out of here. I want arms and weapons. I
mean, that was almost a definingmoment when he drew a line in the
sand and said we're going to fightthis. It was, but that was
late. That was like right beforethe thing happened. And you may recall
that was after the US and mostevery other Western country had moved their diplomats
out of Kiev, with the expectationsthat things were going to go south,

(02:16:07):
and they thought that the Zelensky wouldfollow suit because that seemed like the rational
thing to do. Yeah, andinstead just everything got turned upside down,
and it was led by Zelensky hisunwillingness to capitulate. All right, well,
we know the fog of war.I always it's not a joke,
joke, but it is kind ofa it's a little difficult getting a handle
on who's winning, who's looning,How how many lives have been lost in

(02:16:31):
this meat grinder that apparently both sideshave suffered tremendous casualties. I have no
idea what the progress is on theground. I know Russia isn't giving up,
and of course we keep sending weapons, We among other nations, keep
sending weapons to Ukraine. And nowthey got their long range missiles which are
capable of being launched into Russia,and that require, from my understanding,

(02:16:52):
American troops with military intelligence clearance toeven operate. So this while it's like
Vietnam, we got advisors on theground in Ukraine and apparently operating up until
the moment where the button is pushedthe weapons that are being launched at the
Russians. I mean we're a precariouslyclose to a head on collision with with
Russia. You got it pretty muchspot on that that's exactly the case.

(02:17:15):
Uh. The only thing I wouldfill in some gaps there is that the
Russian side is definitely progressing westward allalong the line of the of the point
of contact. They actually launched alimited incursion north of Kharkiv in May,
I think it was, uh,yeah, in the about the first of
May. They moved ten kilometers inand then they started digging in in trenches.

(02:17:39):
The Ukraine side launched a lot ofcounter tank attempts to push them back.
That has turned into another bloody grind, meat grinder, almost like bach
Moot, a similar situation. Uh. And it's there. The line is
not hardly moving up there, butlots of people keep dying. Meanwhile,
because Ukraine has sent the reserves upthere, they don't have as many troops
on the main lot of contact inthe Eastern Front, and so Russia is

(02:18:01):
starting to make methodical progress there.It does not appear that Ukraine has enough
or will ever have enough men,especially trained men. So in my view,
the die is cast. The Ukraineside can never win the war.
They can't even make a stalemate.So eventually, in enough time, things
are going to go bad and they'regoing to probably end up losing. And

(02:18:22):
that is an interesting thing. Idon't know if you saw the news just
this morning, Victor Orbon has justlanded in Kiev and is talking to Zelensky
to try and make a face toface appeal. According to what's reported already
to have an immediate cease fire.So I think those others are starting to
recognize this can't be won, andthey want to try to limit the damage.
And the damage limited would be howmuch land I suppose they're willing to

(02:18:46):
let the Russians have in return fornegotiating a piece for the balance of the
region. That's one accurate. That'sno longer a question of if it's only
how much. That's just the reality. It's the harsh truth of war.
It's doesn't matter who's quote right orwrong, which side you like, which
side you hate, that's the realitiesthat we have to deal with. What
is the long term problem Russia,if any that Russia faces in that situation.

(02:19:11):
I mean my understanding is Crimea,which they had already annexed back when
Obama was president that was filled withRussians who were you know, loyal or
at least largely pro Putin and proRussia. So you at least have a
willing population that partial segment of Ukraine. What of the balance, What of
whatever land they end up acquiring inany negotiated peace settlement, are they going

(02:19:33):
to have a you know, likea guerrilla warfare situation on their hands?
Where are they sure they got theland but they're constantly under attacked by the
anti Russian Ukrainians that still remain inthe area. Yeah, there is in
the don Boston and those four provincesthat the Russians are asking for and what
Putin specifically said that he wanted ita peace deal, those are a significant

(02:19:56):
majority of Russian speakers as well.That was actually part of the reason why
the Luhanskin Donetsk provinces rebelled in thefirst place back in twenty fourteen, because
they were almost all Russian speakers andethnic Russians. And the further west you
get, the lower that percentage gets. So there are more percentage of non
Russian speakers in those provinces than thereare right now in the Crimea, which

(02:20:20):
is I think ninety something percent,it's almost complete. But I think,
though the long term, certainly inthe medium term, I think that it's
likely that Russia will have to fighta lot of insurgency stuff, just because
the anger and animosity and hatred ofthe Western Ukrainians is so great and for
a generation. I think that eventhough they don't think they're going to get

(02:20:41):
the land back just to punish Russia, I think they'll be doing that.
I imagine you'll see that for along time to come. Yeah. Indeed,
well, you bite something off likethis, You're going to deal with
the aftermath, There's no question aboutit. What of your reaction to Trump's
commons. I know he can be, you know, a little windy at
times. Would he say straight outduring the debate, I'll have the whole

(02:21:01):
thing settled before him even sworn in. I mean, no flesh on the
bones of that statement. Do youhave any idea what he's talking about.
I have some idea. I thinkthat the primary flow is that it's just
hyperbole that to tell the communicate tothe electorate, I'm going to end the

(02:21:22):
war. I'm not going to followthe Biden path of continuing to expand it.
And as long as it takes andjust keep going forever and potentially stumble
into World War three, which helater in that same debate warned against.
But yeah, I mean he actuallyspecifically said I'll have it. It's a
resolve before I take off this,which obviously is not possible because he has
no authority Russia. Interestingly, Ithink today even was asked about that and

(02:21:46):
they say, yeah, I don'tknow what he's talking about, really what
you just said. They go,we'll wait and see if he wins,
and then if he wins what hesays, but we won't comment on it
up to this point. But obviouslythey would much rather have somebody who wants
to talk about ending it than theone that wants to talk about keeping it
going. And going back to yourtea lea freading about where this is going
to end up, which is somesort of negotiated settlement giving Rushes some land.

(02:22:09):
So it sounds to me like DonaldTrump has already projected that message in
his comments the other night, AndLouis I know some of Trump's senior advisors
in his campaign on the foreign policy, and that is exactly what he plans
to do. He wants to ceasefire early on and then he wants to
work on a negotiated settlement to getthe best deal he can for the Ukraine

(02:22:31):
side. But he's soberminded about it, and he knows that you're not going
to get out without giving some landaway, without enough warm bodies to fire
and weapons systems in Ukraine. Eitherthey're going to have to impoort bodies from
NATO countries or again back to thewriting on the well and see, and
you know that's the irony in thisand the actually what actually angers me about

(02:22:52):
this from the beginning is because evenif NATO country is unilaterally not as the
NATO block but unilaterality, we're goingto send you know, fifty thousand,
two hundred and fifty thousand NATO soldierswell trained to fight for Ukraine as mercenaries
whatever category. Even if somehow thatstarted succeeding, and I don't think it
would, I'll I could explain thatlater. All that you're going to do

(02:23:15):
is get to where Putin's redline isto use nuclear weapons. So you cannot
succeed either in driving Russia out,or if you've somehow started to drive them
out, you would still lose,because then it's almost certain would cause nuclear
war, and so the only rationalpath is to get a negotiated settlement and
get this deal solved asat Daniel DavisDeep Thy search for it. Where you

(02:23:37):
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iHeart Media app. Until next Tuesday, My friend, have a wonderful Independence
Day. Same to you, myfriends. See you next time. Take
carry thirty nine year fifty five carCD talk station recommendation forty five fifty five
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it's a really important one. Joiningme to talk about the UV Safety Awareness

(02:23:58):
Month, Ultra Violet rays and skincancer Doctor Suzanne Partridge. She's one of
the outstanding physicians at OHC, whichhappened to be my cancer Doctors. A
leading medical oncology and hematology expert whotreats melanoma and other forms of cancer.
Uses advanced therapies to successfully treat paymentpatients with various forms of skin cancer,
and her expertise has helped many patientsovercome their diagnosis and of healthy futures with

(02:24:22):
better protection from the sun and otherrisk factors. Welcome to the studio,
doctor Partridge, is a real pleasurehaving you here today. Thank you,
Brian as I yes, I mentionedto you. I just had my dermatology
appointment. I have a standing appointmentevery six months. I am a poster
child for skin cancer, fair skin, Northern European descent, blue eyes,
burned severely several times. I wasa lifeguard. Nobody use sent sunscreen back

(02:24:45):
in the day. Even a coupleof bouts of sun poisoning where it feels
like red ants are crawling over yourbody. So that sets me up for
a long term down the road.Potential to have a serious skin cancer,
does it not? It can,but it's not just because you're not in
that category. You should still bemonitored. I've had people in my office

(02:25:05):
that don't have that type of backgroundin the past month. Even I've seen
people that wouldn't be a typical riskfactor. So it should really go across
to everybody. But if you're meat least in terms of your background,
you definitely want to get a dermatologyappointment. Correct get one on the books,
because it's going to take you alittle while to get one. They're
in short supply and high demand YEP. And also your primary care doctor.

(02:25:28):
They can screen you as well,and sometimes if they see something that's suspicious,
they can get you in faster soyou don't necessarily have to wait for
a dermatologist. Fair enough, PCPgreat places start. Let's start here in
our conversation talking about the different typesof skin cancer. What skin cancers are
out there, because I've had somegrowth removed, but so far I haven't

(02:25:50):
gotten the diagnosis of the really badone. Yeah, so there's usually about
three. There's some rareer ones,but we talk about basal cell as well
as squamas cells. Those are moreof the local skin cancers that usually just
need excision, not a lot ofother treatment needed. Usually as long as
you don't wait too long, likefreeze them off kind of thing, correct
or you cut them off. Sometimesyou need a special type of surgery.

(02:26:15):
Melanoma is the one that can getmore serious and it can unfortunately invade into
the rest of our body. Sothat's the one you got to really look
out for. And that's the metastasizedproblem. You get it on your skin,
but next thing you know, yourentire body is covered with cancer.
But well, before we get toprevention, what are you looking for when
you're self examining, you know whatI mean. You know, I've got

(02:26:37):
a little mole here, but I'vehad it ever since I was a little
kid. There's nothing to be seen, there's nothing to bother with it.
But what of other things? Whatare we supposed to be keeping our eyes
out for? Generally you look foranything that's changing, something that's bigger than
the size of a pencil, eraseor how or it can be smaller if
you have something that's changing color oryou have various colors in that mole.

(02:26:58):
I always tell people believe is notsomething to ignore. Something that's changed rapidly
would be something you would bring toan attention. Okay, how about something
that has like dimensional like it sticksup like I think of a ward almost
but has a three dimensional component toit? Is that something? Or is
it? Question? Sometimes but notalways. There's a lot of benign skin
lesions that may be worrisome to people. And I've spent a lot of my

(02:27:20):
time reassuring people. But you know, how do you know? And that's
what we're here for to help youdifferentiate exactly, all right, what do
we do to prevent skin cancer?Well? Number one from birth anytime we're
out in the sun, you definitelygot to be putting on sunscreen at least
an SPF of fifteen, trying toavoid times in the sun where it's strongest

(02:27:41):
ten to four. But I knowthat's a lot to ask. Hats are
important because a lot of us don'tcover our scalps. And then my big
thing outside of summer weather is avoidingtanning beds. They're cancer machines, yes,
and it really happens a lot inteenage girls. And we've seen unfortunate
cases of twenty year old's getting melanomathat I'm a fan. It's completely tragic,

(02:28:07):
and so I always try to Iknow, it's beautiful to look tan.
See. That's when we need tochange, is the mindset. That's
a stupid look, right, thatwe should all transform our vision and say,
all right, well, if you'rewalking around with a real deptan like
that, that means you're more likelyto get skin cancer and you're gonna have
leather skin when you get older.Yeah, that all changed when tanning became

(02:28:28):
popular back in the sixties, andwe were all here hundreds of years ago,
the fairness would be preferred. Allright, Well, let's move over
to risk factors. Are there anyrisk factors that make someone more susceptible to
skin cancer other than a lot ofexposure to the sun. Definitely, we
pay attention to family history. Certainly, if there's a family history of skin
cancer, the radar goes up,and there can be other cancers linked to

(02:28:52):
melanoma. So you want to makesure you know a family history of breast
cancer, ovarian pancreatic cancer. Sometimesthere's a link. THEREMPHO on the list
though ly foma generally no good.So the personal into the disguise that I
get my questions to answered that toyou, that's all good. You're you're
in the clear on that, allright. Fair skin with freckles, I

(02:29:13):
see, yes, and again wego back to the sunburns. I think
mostly we've covered what we really wantto pay attention to. Individuals at risk,
specifically for melanima, a more dangerousform of skin cancer, typically have
what uh the fair skin, theblue eyes, Yes, multiple Sometimes people

(02:29:39):
have more moles than others, andagain if there's changing moles. I think
people that have a lot of moleson their bodies should definitely see a dermatologist
at least once or twice a yearjust to make sure. All right,
I tell you what it really is, peace of mind. I mean,
because you know, I go backto my father and that was kind of
the predicate for me wanting to getoff my butt and start paying closer attention.
Was my father. I spend somuch time out in the sun.

(02:30:01):
He played baseball when he's a littlekid. He lived on the golf course
his whole life, and you know, towards the end of his last fifteen
years of his life, he hadso many things removed off his face.
Yes, and I do believe atone point he did have the melanoma problem.
So he scared me. We evenhave people that don't have melanomas that
have multiple squamass cells that the dermatologistscan't even keep up with removing them.

(02:30:24):
So those patients sometimes need to seeus at OHC because we have systemic treatment
to kind of cover the whole base. But obviously, you know, coming
in for an IV treatment every threeweeks is probably not as desirable as being
preventative. Well, good to getahead of it, please, all right
now speaking the treatments OHC, ofthe folks to call if you get a
cancer diagnosis, do what I did. It's eight eight eight six four ninety

(02:30:46):
eight hundred. You can learn goon line to the website. You can
learn more right now at ohcare dotcom. Hopefully don't tune out of the
balance of this because now we getto talk about the treatments that are available
at OHC foreskin cancer m So sometimeswe need a little bit more treat than
surgery. So my role being ina medical oncologist, sometimes we have to
help patients prevent relapse or treat somethingunfortunately that's already maybe too far gone in

(02:31:11):
terms of surgery. So a lotof times these days we are doing molecular
profiling or tumor profiling to help figureout for that patient what's the best option
for them. Many MELANIUMA patients thesedays are going to get options where the
immune system are what we call immunetherapy is very effective for them. Well
that's great because that's a growing area. I mean, every time I talk

(02:31:33):
to OHG, there's another type ofcancer you are going after with this particular
protocol. Definitely, And I callmyself a mid career doctor. Now,
back twenty years ago, when Iwas finishing training or fifteen, I should
say, I remember offering patients treatmentsthat were five percent benefit and that that

(02:31:54):
was very unsatisfying and very difficult.And when you turn something into now a
sixty or seventy percent benefit and I'mactually seeing people survive this, that's been
a really outstanding at least personally,to see people improve and actually we impact
them now and I only see itgetting better. You have the right to
have hope when you got that kindof percentage, right, correct? And

(02:32:16):
I can't even tell you the numberof people that are here today because of
these treatments that would not have beenhere fifteen years ago. And I have
people in my office that are fiveand ten year survivors that wouldn't have been
with us twenty years ago. Forsure, in a six month period,
Well, an untreated melanoma, howaggressive is that? Before we part company

(02:32:37):
here today? I mean, ifyou have to act with some urgency,
correct, well, I mean Ithink it depends on where you find it.
Some not to scare people, becauseif you catch a milanium really easy
early, you're going to do verywell. You have a ninety percent chance
of being cured. It's when itgets into the lymph nodes that your high
risk to relapse. And if itspreads to other organs, if it comes
back, if you didn't treat it, your prognosis generally under six months to

(02:33:01):
a year. So when we're impactingpeople to live in long term emissions for
years, that was not something wehad the eyesight of fifteen twenty years ago.
And it's just been an amazing thingto witness. But it's still not
enough. We still have people thatdon't do well, and so we still

(02:33:24):
need to move forward. We stillneed to push the button hier yohc's there
doing all the clinical trials and beingon the cutting edge of cancer therapies.
There is hope and it's at OHC. I got tons of hope from OHC
when I was getting treated. Ohcaredot coms where you find them online.
Doctor Suzanne Partridge may be your physicianif you're dealing with these issues involving skin
cancer. One of the just thegreat doctors there among many the number eight

(02:33:48):
eight eight six four eight hundred eighteight eight sixty eight hundred, Doctor Partridge,
keep up the great work and thanksfor the wonderful information you passed along
to my listeners today. We appreciateGOHC the community. My pleasure having you
on to spread the word. Brighamcgow was in the studio from the Hudson
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