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Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm the dude man.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm Brian Thomas, host of the fifty five caresee Morning
Shold and wishing everybody a very happy Tuesday. Try to
make it one anyway. Today early voting starts just indeed,
you know how I knew that two reasons. One it's
on the rundown. Joe Strecker made the point of pointing
it out. Two ox I knew it. But more importantly,
I woke up this morning to a text message from
Christopher smith Aman. Polls open at eight am today early

(00:32):
voting said, You're on the air at five am. Start
letting people know, and please remind folks that you do
not and should not vote for nine council members because
you'll water down the vote. Pick the three or maybe
four that you really like and want to get elected,
because if you go with some others, the balance of them,
I suppose, beyond the the you know, the assuming the

(00:53):
political leanings of my listening audience trend little el libertarian,
capital l libertarian or Republican, there are only a handful
of candidates that really kind of align with your political
motivations and interests. So pay attention and don't vote for
the Democrats. Tom Jay, I could go on the message

(01:15):
has gotten out. Anyway, pay close attention, limit and narrow
the scope. So you got eight am to five pm.
Board of Elections is open. That's typically the case, some
days it varies. I really strongly encourage you to check
the hours that the polls are open to the Board
of Elections before you head on over there, because some
days the hours are more limited, like for example, November second,

(01:37):
it's one pm to five pm. Most of them are
within that general eight to five some days seven thirty
to seven thirty, so check that out. First, mailed absentee
ballots must be postmarked by November three. Polls are open
at six thirty am for the general election that's November fourth.
Absentee ballots must be returned by mail or personally over

(02:00):
to your county Board of Elections by November fourth. If
not returned by mail, absentee ballots must be received by
your Board of Elections by seven thirty pm on election day,
November fourth. So there you go, Christopher, and word is out.
I will continue to try to remind folks that early
voting starts today. So we've got Senator John Houston on

(02:20):
the Schumer shutdown, got a couple of comments on that
this morning. But also I have to ask him about
these new FBI documents showing that special former Special Council
Jack Smith violated some of our senator's constitutional rights, it seems,
as well as one representative tracking the private communications and
phone calls practic Yeah, yeah, Senator Graham and Blackburn and

(02:46):
Johnson Wisconsin, we could go on tracking their phone calls
in connection with the January sixth pro real time. This
was this all happened in twenty twenty three while this
investigation was going on. So Shenanigan's de gloration on that
without question. So Senator Houston on that the shutdown, among
other topics that'll take place at seven thirty. Of course
it's Tuesday. Would get the inside scoop with Bright Barton

(03:08):
News today the return of Texas Border. Editor Bob Price
is going to talk about ICE being under attack and
they are Chicago, Portland, et cetera. I see Chicago has
declared in an ice free zone. And when you look
at the work that ICE has done in terms of
the number of people of the dangerous child molester, rapists, murderers, thugs,

(03:28):
and thieves that the Body Ministry are that the Trump
administration has been rounding up in this quite successful law
enforcement operation. You got to scratch your head and wonder
what these democrats are all about. I mean, I listen.
Nobody holds a constitution more sacred and dear to me,
and I appreciate how concerning it is that we sending
in the National Guard. I don't want to normalize the
concept of martial law. That is a legitimate concern I

(03:51):
have over this. But if it's federal property, it's federal agents,
you know they're entitled to some measure of protection. Most notably,
if local police departments are ruck. Did not to help them,
specifically told, do not help, assist or otherwise come to
the aid of ice officers. That is unbelievable. These are
your fellow American citizens doing their job. Just because you

(04:13):
disagree with the law that they're enforcing. Their at least
enforcing the law. Look in the mirror, Chicago police officer,
you're enforcing your local and state laws. If you were
in trouble, if you were surrounded by thugs, if some
car rammed into you, and you were without additional assistance,
don't you think it would be nice to be able
to call up local law enforcement and say please do well,

(04:34):
federal law enforcement to the extent they're close by fellow
law enforcement officers to render assistance to you. Yes, of course.
Now flipping over to the shutdown. Yeah, the Democrats voted
again saying no to the continuing resolution, offering their own
cr which the of course Republicans rejected. I thought this
was rather profound and they did a great job, most
notably the Washington Post, one of the more left leaning

(04:55):
newspapers in America, always has the Democrats back. Not anymore
on this shutdown. The Washington Posts, of all folks, and
they really like it. They set up this issue and
explained it quite clearly. Joe Biden and Democrats used COVID
nineteen to justify chasing the Miraan and this is their words,
chasing the mirage of a European style welfare state without

(05:18):
raising the necessary taxes to pay for it. Now proud
of by the left, party leaders have shut down the
government in a bid to permanently extend what was sold
back in twenty twenty one as emergency subsidies to help
people struggling during the pandemic to afford their health insurance.
HM and they point out the financial struggles and realities

(05:40):
of this. The US national debt thirty seven point nine trillion,
a figure dwarfing the annual gross domestic product of every
other country. Our debt it has grown dramatically since the pandemic.
Twenty nineteen fiscal year, government spent five point four to
seven trillion, but took in only four point twenty six

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five years later, spending up to six point seven to
five trillion, as revenue didn't keep up with the expansion,
dramatic as it was of government. Yet Democrats have demanded
that Republicans agree to extend the COVID nineteen era insurance
subsidies without proposing any way to pay for it. Go
to the CBO. That's going to cost three hundred and
fifty billion dollars over the next decade. These scream it

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out loud temporary benefits were included in the twenty twenty
one America Rescue Plan and extended the following year in
the well misnumber Inflation Reduction Act as extensions. Democrats put
it in there the end of this year. Yet we've known,
actually since the original subsidies that they had a finite life.

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It was temporary. It was COVID driven and COVID related.
Oh my god, we got a crisis. We've got to
give these people some assistance. COVID's over last time I checked,
but the extension was in there until the end of
this year, so no shock. And they're right. The real
problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never affordable.

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President Obama's signature achievement allowed people to buy insurance on
marketplace with subsidies based on their income cap four hundred
percent of poverty level. Remember that sixty two five hundred dollars.
The architects of the program assumed that risk pools would
be bigger than they turned out to pee See the
risk pools the number of people insured under it. Premiums
cover the out of pocket expenses for an insurer to

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pay claims. If there aren't enough people making insurance premium payments,
the pool of money that you can pay claims out
of not very big. And that's what Obamacare turned into.
It's like the insurer of last resort, nothing but the
sick end up on Obamacare, and therefore the risk pool
is well substantial, but the money taken in is not

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to salvage the program. The post Rights Democrats expand it
did subsidies to entice more people to buy plans. Oh, look,
it's free. Many poor families wound up getting insurance for free,
which it is, and and the roles grew. Twenty four
million people now have covered through the Affordable Care Act exchanges. Well.
The emergency expanding on Obamacare's succeeded in doubling the number

(08:19):
of people in the roll of the program. That was
largely thanks to the jumping number of people eligible for
free insurance. After fifteen years, Obamacare has barely worked as
a marketplace, but it has always worked as a giveaway,
and that was part of the design. Described as a

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starter project, single payer, starter project that could be expanded
by simply shoveling more government money into it over time.
That's what the Democrats are trying to do now with
the shutdown. Washington Post observes this is how entitlement programs work.
Once you habituate people to some generous government handown, they
grow dependent on it, and it becomes politically perilous, if

(09:02):
not impossible, to fully clawed back. Conservatives thought so hard
to stop Obamacare fifteen years ago because they anticipated fights
like this one. Amen and note it was observed. I
think the Fox News observed that this kind of is different.
The long thirty one day shutdown during Trump's administration was

(09:23):
over his demands for billions of dollars for funding the
border wall. Trump's border wall not going to do anything,
won't keep people out, It's stupid, Barbara bar blar Blair.
So he lost that one. Trump wanted something in return
for opening the government. In this particular case, I would
argue the Republicans' hands are quite clean. A funding level
is from last year, the Democrat level funding. They got

(09:47):
nothing to complain about. They're not asking for anything. The Republicans.
They could have packed the cr with a bunch of cuts.
Would have made me happy. But then again, the argument
would have been from Democrats, your way too much. Oh
my god, people are going to die, which is exactly
the argument they're making about cutting these subsidies, which are
supposed to be temporary because of COVID nineteen. I'd say

(10:09):
they're in a losing position. If you've lost the Washington Post, Democrats,
I mean you're not in a very eenviable position, and
not in a very emviable position because there is no
logic and reason behind the arguments you're making temporaries, temporary
emergency basis is emergency basis. Let's stick a fork in it, Cleveland.

(10:31):
Now I see that you're up there. I'm going to
take your call right out of the gate. If you
don't mind holding a couple of moments, I'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
By nineteen On a Tuesday, I mentioned Senator Houston. I
mentioned the inside scoop with the Border Patrol editor Bob Price.
I didn't mention Daniel Davis Deep Dive, who joined the
programma he does every Tuesday at eight thirty, and we
get to hear from one of the great doctors at OHC.
It is Breast cancer Awareness month, so we'll get some
fun facts and things to look out for and probable

(11:00):
some positive developments in terms of pursuing a cure for
breast cancer. That'll be at eight fifty in the meantime, Cleveland,
al thank you for holding over the break, my friend.
Appreciate hearing from me this morning.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
First of all, who day?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Okay, everybody who beat them Bengals? Probably everyone go ahead,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I said, as Alice Cooper once said, welcome to
my nightmare. So the thing I would like to do
today is respond to Fred's thoughtful comments that he made yesterday,
and I would like to just summarize what I heard.

(11:46):
I believe he I believe he is tired of hearing
angry complaints without hearing any solutions, and I I think
it may have been in response to what I said yesterday,
but I want to assure everyone that the essay that

(12:11):
I delivered yesterday was more a lamentation than a complaint.
A lamentation being a passionate expression of grief and sorrow
about what's happened to our society. And within those lamentations,
I think is implied the solution to the problem, which

(12:36):
goes back to what Bobby says all the time, faith,
family freedom, which includes the right to bear arms, and lastly,
flank and include it also is the need to get
back to embracing classical education, UH, the Constitution, the rule

(13:03):
of law, and and finally the equal application of justice UH.
And that I believe was implied in what I had
to say yesterday. So that's that's the cl clarification. Now
I agree with Jay that Fred needs to look into

(13:24):
the Iron Triangle, and there are many different authors that
have come at that subject at different times and in
different directions. But he also needs to look at two
uh treasures that we have in the United States, and
that would be doctor William Sole and doctor I mean

(13:45):
William H.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thomas Thomas.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Thomas. Yeah. They they have written extensively about the decay
of our society. So I will leave it at that.
Have a wonderful and blessed everyone. And Fred, if you're listening,
we on the right are the place for debate and
for reasons thinking, so come join us.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Appreciate the clarity you provided, Cleveland, I.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Go ahead, yeah, and don't vote.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Democrat implicit in your comments. I appreciate that, Cleveland. Al
Oh my god, Look who's on the phone, Fred popular
Man with the fifty five Kearsey Mornings show. Love hearing
from you, brother, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Good morning. Let me say this and I'm I'm well
verse and fors thinks that's going on around me? Uh,
it's for as I'm trying to find the best words
to say this. I don't your callers. I love your callers.
I love their point of views. I love the way

(14:56):
they look at things. I love the way they projecting
out for other people to see. I love them. But
my whole thing once again is that that when you
are living and a bubble and don't get outside, you
a bubble and you only see what's in there, it's
hard to see what's on the other side. And that's

(15:18):
the only thing I'm saying. And sometimes you have to
go out beyond where you're at to see what other
people are doing, you know, and sometimes you have to
walk up down on somebody else's shoes. That's so, as
they always say. And and sometimes you've got to go
out and and and see what the homeless people are
really are doing, and see what people are really struggling

(15:40):
or really are doing. And I understand that that it's
in the United States that we we think that, you know,
we are the richest people in the world, and we
got nowhere or not, we have some of the poorest
people in the world, and of the poorest people in
the world. Look look to us and look healthy, look
every like everything is okay. But I work in the

(16:00):
field that it's mentally and physically, you know, they're the
day they're they're disabled them. Anybody wants to go out
and see them and understand that when you are one
accident away from being the same people I take care.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Of every day.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
And the only the only thing I'm saying is that
you have an open mind and and sometimes you have
to just just just just venture out. And I go
into every neighborhood, and in Cincinnati, every neighborhood. Everybody can't
say that because they refuse to think they're too much violence,
and I'm saying there is not so much violence as

(16:38):
you think it is. Everybody is welcome, will welcome you in.
I just want people to understand that that your callers,
that I love them, I respect them their point of view,
that I see the book. I need to get the
book because I definitely would read it and will get
back to you with it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
So I need to seeing an open mind by agreeing
to you know, maybe do a little reading that was
recommended to you, and I share your perception. Fred. As
you were talking about this, I was thinking about Judge
mcdowly yesterday, who a brilliant guy. I mean, he's been
a legal profession and trial lawyer for years and years
just the point of the bench. He grew up dirt

(17:16):
poor West Virginia, you know, I mean, dirt poor West
Virginia had nothing, I guess on welfare or something like that.
You know, and you talk about there are poor people
out in the world, and every time someone talks about
the struggles of the inner city poor. I've been through
West Virginia on my motorcycle and my uncle and I
I I witnessed and saw some unbelievably tragically poor people
living out in the middle of nowhere, not close to resources,

(17:39):
not close to hospitals, not close to grocery stores. You know,
people overlook that kind of reality, but it exists everywhere
in America. But fred, I'm going to counter what you say.
America's poor at least have a social welfare safety net
Medicaid for example, whig program Snap. Try traveling around India
or looking like I mean, I went to Puerto Rico
for a wed. It felt like I walked into a

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third world country in Puerto Rico, that's more like second world.
But yeh, seeing the reality of what exists outside the
boundaries in the United States is quite eye opening, no question.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Let me say, let me say what what in my neighborhood.
I'm I'm a sixty two year ole black man in
my neighborhood. More or less, it's more or less.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
You have.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
People from India and Africa coming in getting these loans
that we can't get. That's not right, and they're opening
up stores and businesses that is. I don't understand that
they refuse to give them to us, but they give
them to them. And that's the odd problem. It's like, though,
if you've given something too, are giving something out include

(18:47):
us in with it, that's all, And that's all it is.
It's nothing more or less that if something is being done,
included in right. And one of the biggest things that
we have been talking about, my friends have been talking about, uh,
you know when they were talking to the chiefs of staff,
it's when you know they were saying that, well, force
the first person when they're saying more or less, uh,

(19:13):
a black person is the first person to do something.
There should be no more first so to speak.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, yeah, painting with a broad brush, yeah yeah, I
understand that disrespectful yeah, And you know me, I try
to avoid that broad brush painting at every turn. When
I hear it, I try to point it out, like
wait a second, Like the other day someone said, you know,
you're beating up a black guy because he's black. He's like,
wait a second, how do you know that's the motivation?
He's like, okay, yeah, you're right. I assume that, so,

(19:41):
you know, stop pause. Try to consider the other side,
Consider the realities. Consider you haven't walked miles in the
other man's shoes. Try to look at it from that perspective.
Probably virtually impossible, for example, for a white guy to
explain or understand Fred's life experience. Only you know that, Fred,
but content played it. Try to appreciate it, you know,

(20:02):
and see the other side if you can, and then
perhaps we can come up with some solutions together. Appreciate Fred,
you know, I love you, man. I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Listener, and I appreciate you to say something for me
to get upstate with you with that's not what you do.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Have a good day, Have a great Tuesday, Fred, five
twenty nine went long. That's okay, be right back after
these brief words.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Fifty five KRC fall is sports seas.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It doesn't take place until the after the weather. In
the next segment, before I get to Tom, I want
to let you know all lanes are closed. I seventy
five northbound beyond US fifty at River Roads slash sixth
Street due to a crash. Just saw someone post this
on Facebook. Went straight to ohgo dot com and S
and D. The incident's been reported there, so confirm that.

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I'm sure Chuck will have a word or two on that.
But early heads up again. I seventy five northbound beyond
US fifty slash River Road, sixth Street. Crash. Over to
the phones, Tom, Welcome to the Morning show on Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
To you.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh that that's gonna leave a big mark in traffic
on the bridge.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I can only pray to get that cleaned up in
the next Oh.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, they better hurry up because it's it's the big
rush is about the hit of these.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
I what I don't want to do is, UH is
perpetuate a pile on anyone. First of all, before I
say any more about that, I really appreciate the opportunity
to be able to call in and talk and be
amongst the community of people that listen and call into
the show. It's something that I really look forward to, uh,

(21:38):
and and it's allowed me to be able to express
my opinions, which which you know, I know a lot
of people don't want to hear in their settings where
it's it's not appropriate sometimes, but it really, it really
is a good thing for me and I know a
lot of other people. Uh, it's given me opportunities to
talk to people and and share some things and and

(22:00):
probably more important, listen to some things here hear other
people's opinions and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
So that's why I like the calls. It does the
exact same thing for me. Somebody out there wants to
talk about something, we engage in conversation, maybe come up
with a solution, but at least identify where people are thinking.
That's a beautiful thing for me on this show.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah, we and we h nobody mentioned I don't know,
but we blurred right over the stack of stupid yesterday.
And that's okay because, uh, people, you know this this
stuff going on out there, it's all about It's all
about you as individual taxpayers and voters and us collectively.
So when we have an opportunity to get together and

(22:38):
talk about stuff, uh, that's a that's a really good thing.
And I appreciate everybody who's willing to engage in the conversation.
And of course the conversation involves talking and listening. So
thank you to all you guys out there.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
I don't want to come across as piling on anyone,
but but it seems like we have a Fred who
has got a lot of questions and made some interesting comments.
And I'm not going to go on and on about it,
but one thing that I did hear, which which kind
of made my eyebrow go up. I'm curious Bred has

(23:13):
said something about not hearing solutions. And most of your
callers and definitely all of your guests have solutions, have
to have talked about doing things differently. Here's here's how
we should handle this. I mean, you got a guy
that you talked to at seven twenty every Monday morning

(23:34):
who's all full of solutions. And if there's anybody that
if you live in Cincinnati you get a hard time
voting for Republican for whatever reason. And we could debate
individual issues, but there's a guy who is an independent
as well, who is just like feed up with the
way things are going in Cincinnati, and he has solutions.

(23:54):
He talks about him all the time. Here's what's going on,
and here's what we need to do instead. If I'm
in there, here's what I'm going to do. And then
you got you know, of course I'm talking about Christopher Smittaman,
and you know, you got Corey Bowman who comes on,
and various different people. You have a lot of people
callers and guests who are talking about solutions, doing something

(24:17):
different than the way they're being done now, and here.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Are the specific things we should.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Do and that I would do if I.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Was in there.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
So I'm not sure.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
It's kind of a it sounds like a talking point
on the left whenever they don't really want to engage.
I don't know if that's what's going on. But there
are lots of solutions that are being thrown out there
and put out there. Some of it is return to
things that have been abandoned that should not have been abandoned.
We should be going back to some things like Al's

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been talking about. There's a lot of solutions being talked
about out there, a lot of things that will help
get this stuff right, turn things around. And even though
things may not be as bad as it sounds like
we are making them, it's worse than it should be.
And that's the main point we're making. One death is
too many, One is too many. One young lady being

(25:14):
punched into face for no good reason is too many.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Shouldn't be happening thirteen year old.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Good enough was done about it.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
And no thirteen year old should get gunned down on
the streets of Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
Absolutely one percent. I don't care what color or whatever
the victim. It's too much. It has to stop, and
we got to do something about it. And we're looking
at our current government and going they're not doing anything
about it or not enough about it, and we you know,
maybe they do care. I don't know. I don't know
these people personally who are holding office, but I.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Do know this.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
That D next to their name tells me they're not
going to do what needs to be done. Don't vote
Rhino and don't vote Democrat. There's your solution.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Have a great day, Ryan, appreciate it. Tom.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yes, we seem like we have a lot in come. Yeah,
we can unravel some of this stuffs as possible. As
Fred's still living.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I mean it's only been five minutes since he called man.
I sure as hell, hope he's still alive. Maybe some day,
maybe some day he can he can, but listener to lunch.
Some day I'd love to meet Fred face to face.
That'll be a cool opportunity for you to sit down.
I'll figure out where listener lunch is next month, probably
within the within the time period of the morning show.

(26:25):
I'll announce it. I have forgotten.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
I'll be back in Mississippi hit it out next month.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
As read.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
The number would be fine with him if he don't mind,
and we could connect nerves, you know, and I give
minds out on the air if you want to take it,
you know, but until we do. But all right, the
second thing, Uh, the guy just called off and he said,
it's a D by your name. There's a joke out
there said, if it's a D by your name, that

(26:53):
means do nothing. If there's an R by your name,
that mean return to the pad. All right, Now, let's
get on the insurance part. If the shutdown is based
over this one thing that they want to extend the
incentive from the government, all right, If that go away

(27:16):
to subsidy, people's insurance will go up.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yes, all right, something like weeds. If you make more
than sixty two to five, it's going up. So yeah,
the income cap is four und percent of poverty. That
was the original subsidy. That will remain but over sixty
two five, you are no longer eligible. So there's just
one stepping a qualification there.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Okay, And it seemed like we've missing so many other
parts of this conversation. It's what's going to replace? What
a better plan than Affordable Care Act? I remember Trump
said he had concept of a plan, but we never
saw that plan, never brought it out, So we need
to move on their point.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, all I have to observe on that even if
Trump had a great plan, there is no way in
God's green earth the Democrats are ever going to repeal Obamacare.
And I would think that you'd have to repeal that
concept generally in order to come out with a new plan.
As long as it's there, it's going to stay there.
And I mean, you know the makeup of the House
and Senate right now, that may something could sail through

(28:19):
the House by way of reform or repeal, but it
goes to the Senate. You think there's a battle over
opening the government on the cr right now, you'll, I mean,
they'll they'll die on that hill to keep Obamacare in place.
So I think practically from a political standpoint, that's just impossible.
Just my opinion. I know what it's worth, my naive
and this what is CR Continuing Resolution? All it is

(28:42):
it does is just keep the government open under the
current funding levels until well the Continuing Resolution is over
and this one lasts into November. Under the pretext, they're
going to use the time to finish the appropriations bills,
which I can observe right now they could be working
on right blank and now they don't need the government
oh and to work on the appropriations bills. But who

(29:03):
am I to call foul over that reality?

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Own?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
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Happy Tuesday and Togo Straight to the Phones got a
couple of callers online, beginning with Larry Order, in which
they received Jay hang On, brother, Larry, Welcome to the
forty fifty five CARC Morning Show.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
Yeah, yeah, good morning. I heard last night on the
news on Fox I saw about this AG, the guy
running for AG in Virginia. Oh lordy said super did
you hear about that?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (30:25):
I know, I hadn't heard say nothing.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, I didn't talk about it. But yeah, the pretty
horrific comments, there's no question about it. And oddly enough
all the Democrats are lined up in supported this guy
in spite of how vile the comments were. Just it's
Jay Jones, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Right right, okay.

Speaker 10 (30:44):
And also I was goning to get your idea why
the gas prices week to week? The week every week
that goes up and the week a certain days, the
week goes down, and it goes up, and it goes down. Yeah,
what is uh? Is there a reason for.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Larry, I'll profess. I'll profess the ignorance on that and
chalk it off. It's like the peace of God. It
passes all human understanding, no idea, and it's it's insane.
I mean, it'll fluctuate like fifty cents day to day
in some cases. So yeah, I have no idea, Larry,
I truly do not. If it was California, I could say, well,
the refinery blew up and Gavin Newsom shutdown all the

(31:24):
ability to you know, the drill and and and and
go back to energy independence like they used to have.
But we're not in California. We're not relying on California
refineries to supply us with our gasoline. Jay, Welcome to
the Morning Show. Happy Tuesday, Happy Tuesday. Brian.

Speaker 11 (31:39):
Hey, I love Mississippi James and Bred and listen to
your show, and man, it is like a family.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It is.

Speaker 11 (31:49):
I do want to respond to Mississippi James a couple
of comments when he talked about and because I keep
hearing that he has the same argument and talking point
that I'm hearing a lot of people say, which is,
if they get rid of Obamacare, they being the federal government,
what are they going to replace it with? To build

(32:09):
on my cor I knew comments yesterday.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Difference.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I know where you're going right now, Jake, go ahead,
finish it up because I can anticipate it, hit it.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (32:19):
So I don't want they to have any hands on
my health care at all. I want they to get
out of my health care. The federal government being involved
in your healthcare makes as much sense as the federal
government paying for your for your health insurance pays. Why
don't they take care of my home insurance? Why not
my auto insurance? And here's what I did. I didn't

(32:42):
need the government to figure it out. I listened to
Brian Thomas, and I called John Rollman, a cover sency,
and I spent an hour on the phone, maybe two
with my wife, talking to one of their people. And
this is not a paid advertisement, no, I know. After
two hours we went through a lot of options, including Obamacare.

(33:03):
They were able to create a plan for me that
it includes pre existing condition coverage or a whole lot
less than what Obamacare would have cost me. So I
would encourage it now whenever. He also made the comment
of a lot of people are going to have their
insurance go up if they don't get this thing solved.

(33:24):
Let me rephrase that a lot of people are going
to have their share of paying their insurance is going
to be on them instead of it being on me.
If their insurance goes down, then the federal government's paying it.
It's legalized theft, which means they're going to take from
other Americans to pay your insurance. The federal government doesn't
make anything, they don't produce anything, they don't design anything.

(33:47):
And whenever they're paying someone else's insurance, that's coming from
your fellow American citizens. And right now, Brian, I get
to keep half of what I make whenever everybody, you
take a look at what you're paying federal income text,
that is your money. When you take a look at
what you're taking for state income tax, that is your money.
But since we're talking about Obamacare, let's stick with the

(34:09):
federal income text. And how much more? How much should
I be able to keep? Is fifty cents on the
dollar too much?

Speaker 7 (34:17):
Well?

Speaker 11 (34:18):
Is that asking too much? And that I need to
pay more for everybody else's insurance?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
What you need to do is.

Speaker 11 (34:24):
I appreciate it in your own hands.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I appreciate the nature of your question, but I can't
let this go of that pointing out they're taking fifty percent,
let's say, after the dust clears from you, and they
still don't take enough from you or anybody else to
cover the nut of what they're spending. Exactly, what would
your tax bill be if they took in all the
revenue they need to sustain this without going further into debt.

(34:47):
I think you now that's the endgame. Yeah, you would
have nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's the end game.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And don't overlook the reality.

Speaker 11 (34:53):
You have nothing, and you'll be happy. And we're going
to take care of everybody's insurance. And look how well
that's worked.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah. Yeah, And and don't overlo with the fact that
every place else in your life, the impact of federal
policy is profoundly increasing the cost of what you have
to pay for energy, gasoline. We could go on and
on and on, whittling away at every margin of your
reality and your life, whittling away at your income what
you have left over to use to consume. And we

(35:20):
know how evil consumption is. Jay, It's the root of
all evil. Jay, I appreciate you. Excellent points, man, folks,
Let's keep the conversation going. You know, the calls tend
to slack off on there's six o'clock hour. There's no
need for that. If there's something you want to talk about.
But if not, trust me, there are plenty of topics
that talk about. Lead me to my own devices. Choose
yourself right back after these brief words.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
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You're one stop from January sixth. Man, that's a civil
rights violation. We're going to further involve that. I investigate that.
But Senator Houston, I'm sure has some comments on both
those topics. Will maybe invite him to talk about other
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Texas Border editor Bob Price returns. We will talk about
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(36:17):
Of course, Portland winning a lawsuit requiring the u Feds
to move out. No federal help in Portland, just kind
of scratch my head and wonder what the citizens of
Portland really want. Place has gone to hell in a handbasket.
Daniel Davis Deep Dive eight thirty with Daniel Davis, retired
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(36:37):
My friends from OHC, will get one of the great
doctors from OHC, my cancer doctors. Breast Cancer Awareness Month
it is, and so I anticipate some good news from OHC,
which is typically what we get, but also some helpful
hints and important things. The answer to the question the
next listener launch came up in conversation in the last
hour High Grain Brewery in Brentwood. That's the fifth of November,

(37:00):
one day after the election. So will either be drowning
our sorrows or celebrating, hopefully the victory of at least
Christopher Smith Aman. It's early voting. It starts today, Check
the times that the Board of Elections is open, hit
the ground running, vote early, just get it out of
the way. And again the advice from Christopher and so
many others, only vote for a handful of council candidates.

(37:22):
You have an opportunity for nine, But why would you
vote for people that you really don't want to be elected?
Pick the three, maybe four or even five if there
are there. If they are there, and stick with those
and leave the rest of them blank. That's where you go. Five, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three
talk or pound five fifty on AT and T phone.
You remember fifty five KRC dot com. Check out the

(37:44):
Shenanigans declaration from Judge Christopher McDowell yesterday, Money Money with
Brian James and of course, oh look this smither vent
crimes and community concerns on his mind Yesterday, episode one
hundred and nine from Christopher Smithman. I enjoy our time
together and I sure hope you do as well. Thanks
for calling this morning, Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 13 (38:03):
Yes, good morning, Happy early voting day.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Amen.

Speaker 13 (38:07):
I would like, yes, I would like to give you
and your listeners a little synopsis of what people will
be voting on in Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
County, Ohio.

Speaker 13 (38:13):
And there are a lot of issues in Hamilton County, Ohio.
Voters will be voting on municipal judges. The smaller cities
and villages will be voting on taxes. There are twenty
five tax levees or on the ballot out of forty
nine jurisdictions. Plus there is a county wide tax levee
for Hamilton County Parks that will cost the homeowner twenty
two dollars for each one hundred thousand dollars of property

(38:35):
appraised value. That is a renewal tax. Now, City of
Cincinnati voters will have an incredible amount of things to
vote on. The big one drum roll please, and it's
the Cincinnati Public Schools Emergency Levee renewal forty eight million dollars,
which will cost the homeowner one hundred and seventy seven

(38:57):
dollars per one hundred thousand dollars a poor ten years
starting in twenty twenty six. It was first passed in
twenty sixteen, vote in twenty twenty for five years. And
they say it will not increase taxes. But I say
if you don't vote, if you vote against this tax,
your taxes will go down. Not be voting on the
Hyde Park development issue. A lot of people are saying, Hey,

(39:19):
we're going to be voting on that. You know that
you're raised. They got together all the signatures, but it's
not on the ballot. Cincinnati voters will also vote for mayor. Unfortunately,
Corey Bowman did not respond to the League of Women
Voters request for comments, so there's nothing in their little
newspaper about what Corey Bowman stands for. Cincinnati voters will
be voting for council members. There are twenty eight candidates

(39:42):
on the ballot. You can vote for a maximum of nine,
but like you said, why vote for people who you're
not interested in. Cincinnati voters will cast a ballot for
school board members. There are five candidates running and vote
for no more than four. In addition, Cincinnati voters will
also be voting on changing the charter the constitution in

(40:05):
Cincinnati in two ways.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
There are two issues.

Speaker 13 (40:08):
One would give extra points to the public if a
person passed or on the public service test if the
person graduated from an internship program for public service that's
police and fire. Two, they want to amend the campaign
finance reporting guidelines, and yes on the issue would also
provide additional time to fill vacancies on the Cincinnati Elections Commission.

(40:33):
The other thing that has come up county wide is
there is going to be a vote on candidates for
the Educational Service Center. There are three candidates running, and
you vote for no more than three. But I did
not see anything in the leg of Women's Legal Women
Voters newspaper. If you live in Claremont County or Butler County,

(40:57):
what you can do to find out about what going
on in those counties is go to the League of
Women's Voters website in those counties. You might even be
able to go to the Board of Election website in
those counties and see what's on the ballot. Be prepared
before you go into the polling place.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Well, you provided a whole bunch of illustrations why people
do need to be prepared, and there's probably a lot
more on the ballot as you have just read off
that people even were aware of, because you know, I'd
say seventy five percent of the things that you went
through haven't even been discussed widely in local news. So yeah,
you got to pay attention to that. You can get
your sample ballot at the Board of Elections website as well,

(41:33):
makes it real easy. Carl and Carl, great, great call.
Thanks for reminding folks a lot more than just the
council race coming up. Get in and vote today. Early
voting begins. You're the TikTok TikTok. You know November fourth
is going to be here in just a moment's time,

(41:53):
given the limitations on time, and you can feel free
to call five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty eight
two to three talk pound fifty on at and T fundes.
This shutdown provides a golden opportunity, of course, for the
Trump administration to cancel some grants. For example, I thought
this was rather comical. Now you can say it's just
Trump picking and choosing the winners and losers, maybe a
certain degree, but I appreciate the reason he canceled. This

(42:16):
Department of Energy canceled a forty five point seven million
dollar grant that Chucky Schumer helps score for one of
his hometown companies called plug Power, described as a green
energy firm, which the executives donated a heapload of money
to Chucky Schumer and they got a payoff in the
form of this forty five point seven million dollar grant

(42:38):
awarded in March twenty twenty four to boost this manufacturing
capabilities at its hydrogen production facilities and of course New York.
According to internal documents, hydrogen technologies require high upfront capital
and ongoing subsidies, kind of like Obamacare. If you don't

(43:00):
subsidize the premium, people don't want to buy into it.
When you subsidize it, people look at it as free
and will gravitate over to it until such time as
the subsidies stop, in which time people say, I don't
want that anymore. What's going on now, same thing here.
Subsidies are what make this thing even potentially viable. And
I use the word potentially advisedly. Just because the government

(43:21):
is subsidizing it doesn't mean it's going to work. But
the fact that without government subsidies it will not work.
It will not generate revenue or funds. It cannot exist
absent you going to work and paying taxes. That's one
I say needs to be cut out, they said. Committeing
large sums of public money to hydrogen risk locking the

(43:41):
government into supporting an industry that may never achieve scale
or self sufficiency. There's better ways of producing energy hydrogen,
new technology, isn't it backed up by figures. In twenty
twenty four, plug Power, recipient of the forty five point
seven million gotten million dollar GRAMP, reported losses in excess

(44:03):
of two billion dollars in a single calendar year and
increase of fifty percent from the prior yeary and they
also announced layoffs earlier this year because of yes, economic factors.
It wouldn't and couldn't and possibly wouldn't. I mean it
would never exist. It'll be a gleam in some green

(44:23):
energy person's eye. Oh, if we only had unlimited funds
from the American taxpayer, we could make a go of this.
You know, there's billions and billions of dollars in capital
out there, people willing to invest in new technologies if
you can do like a sort of a business model
showing that ultimately the private investors will get their money

(44:43):
back and it will be a viable interest that will
be self sustaining. In other words, like every other business
that's created out there with the absence of federal subsidies.
You hang the word green in front of it, you
hang clean energy, you hang the words carbon neutral in
front of something immediately eligible for somebody else's money. Well,

(45:04):
fortunately we have the Trump administration saying no, I think
that's a great thing. Say what you want about it.
Does he have the power to do this? Ah, that'll
all get played out in court won't it, but you
gotta try. And of course I appreciate his efforts in
the name of saving at least some me some modest
measure of federal tax dollars that are taken out of
my paycheck. Straker probably appreciates it too. And it's noted

(45:28):
that the plug powers top executives funneled tens of thousands
of dollars of the Schumer campaign. Friends of Schumer for
President pack was the recipient of all this money, and
lo and behold after this money was funneled into Schumer's pack,
Joe Biden signed the bill into law in November of
twenty twenty one, advancing this grant, which at least right

(45:50):
as of right now has been canceled. Six sixteen fifty
five KRSD talk station Foreign Exchange Westchester location is the
one I recommend. There are several foreign exchange locations you
can find out all at Ottoman hard from being deployed there,
shocking no one. Of course, Portland was successful in booting
them out, probably too much to the residents regret. Also

(46:10):
considering the amount of the amount of heinous people that
have been arrested, people with criminal records that the federal
government has arrested and really successful Operation Cash. Hottel was
talking about that just the other day. But Chicago Mayor
Brandon Johnson signed an order to establish what is called
an ICE free zone in a bit to prevent the

(46:34):
well City of Chicago from cooperating with ICE agents. According
to the Democrat Mayor's office Democrat Yes, Brandon Johnson, the
order is designed to block federal immigration officials from using
City of Chicago owned property in their investigations into illegal
immigrants in the city's jurisdiction. Note it's limited to the
City of Chicago owned property because of course he didn't

(46:55):
have any jurisdiction to prohibit ICE from operating on federal property,
which I believe they do have a legal right to protect.
We will not tolerate ICE agents violate violating our residents
constitutional rights, nor will we allow the federal government to
disregard our local authority. Huh, just wondering what residents constitutional

(47:15):
rights he believes in being violated With this executive order,
he said, Chicago stands firm in protecting the constitutional rights
of our residents and immigrant communities in upolding our democracy.
That would include immigrant communities who are harboring and among
which are hardened criminals, including child molesters, pedophiles, traffickers of
human beings, murderers, drug dealers. We could go on, take

(47:37):
a crime. You've got some in that immigrant community, so
let's get rid of the bad ones. Most people embrace
that concept. It's popular. What this order does. It bars
city owned property, for example, parking lots, garages, and vacant
lots from being used as staging areas. So if they're
going to stage, they're going to try to successfully pull

(47:58):
off their operations, they're going to have to find some
federal chunk of land to park in. Now, it's pointed
out not quite clear whether he has any jurisdiction over
what ICE can do within the city. It's written as
a section of the agency's website Federal Agency that the
federal government quote has primary authority over immigration matters. It does,

(48:21):
meaning it can override state and local laws that conflict
with federal immigration policy, which I believe Biden made a
similar assertion it's federal law. States you can't do anything
because it's federal law. I believe that was in connection
with Texas trying to take it on itself to build
a border wall and things of that nature. So yeah,
it's pretty clear federal law is controlling on this a whole.

(48:42):
Land Security Assistant Secretary A. Tricia McLaughlin's you know, just
this week and the Governor Pritzker refused to allow local
police departments to give our officers back up at the
scene of a law enforcement attack. Yes, order them to
stand down. Police. Don't help your fellow law enforcement officers
because they happen to be fed. Let them die. That's

(49:03):
what I hear when I read what the order was.
She went on growing violent and crowd began throwing rocks
at our law enforcement, yet their chief of patrol ordered
their officers not to help. She went on his reckless
policies not only in danger of law enforcement, but also
public safety. When he continues to release pedophiles, rapist, gang members,
and murderers into Chicago streets, our brave law enforcement will

(49:26):
continue to risk their lives without pay. Nice interjection there, Tricia.
To arrest these heinous criminals and make Chicago safe again. Well,
probably a matter that are resolved in court. Can you
declare an ice free zone? I tend to think legally
from a legal perspective, No, given the authority the federal

(49:47):
government has to enforce or ignore immigration law, contrasting administrations
six twenty five. Right now, I feel free to call otherwise,
got local stories to dive on into. Another thing I
want to recommend is colored Detalk station. It's six twenty nine.
I fifty five ker City Talk Station. Happy Tuesday, October seventh,

(50:07):
the beginning of early voting and the city since actually
guess the county early voting has begun. Make sure you
know when the Board of Elections is open, so you
don't show up at a time when it's not open.
Critical point. And yes, again a reminder you're voting in
the City of Cincinnati's election. Only vote for those candidates
you truly want to win. Don't fill in all nine
seats unless you want the nine you've selected actually serve

(50:29):
the residents of the City of Cincinnati, So be very
selective about those votes. Of course, I recommend Corey Bowman,
Christopher Smith, and Steve Good and Liz Keating. I could
name a few more, just some options that are out
there over the local stories. In the absence of phone calls,
we can do that. Yes, another person shot, twenty seven
year old shot killed yesterday afternoon in Avondale, cord to

(50:50):
Sincint Police. Happened about twelve twenty pm eight hundred blocker
Ridgeway Avenue. Officers got in the scene, they found a
man suffering from a gunshot wound. Sponders began life saving measures.
Man taking a UC medical center where he died. Twenty
seven year old was identified as Quentin Nathaniel Schausse. Police

(51:11):
didn't provide any suspect information in the investigation is ongoing
either called the homicide Unit or on guessing crime Stoppers.
Three five to thirty forty more suspects under arrests in
the beating attack that was caught on camera in Coryville.
Austin Smith, who's twenty from Paris, Kentucky, along with eighteen
year old Joshua and Steet of Florence, both scheduled appear

(51:34):
in Hamlin County Municipal Court. It was yesterday they were
scheduled to aer Pierce Smith charged with filonius assault and
aggravated riot and charged with assault and aggravated riot, both
in custody. Based on statements made of police and video
detailing the September thirteenth incident showing both involved and assault
with four other suspects attack apparently related to, of all things,

(51:59):
a take out order and the twenty seven hundred block
of Short Vine Street. At least three people were hurt,
most seriously man suffered a broken jaw and a concussion
with a black eye. One of the suspects, Braydon Hall,
eighteen of Batavia, accused of punching him several times while
he was lying on the ground unconscious. When the victim

(52:21):
got off the ground and tried to walk. According to police,
he was unsteady on his feet due to just regaining consciousness.
That's in a sworn affidavit. He stumbled and fell back
into the backs of mister Hall's legs. Mister Hall turned
around and started to punch the victim in the face
and head for a second round of assaults. Hall facing

(52:42):
charge of felonius assault, aggravated riot, and properly handling firearms
in a motor vehicle after police City found his loaded
gun ready at hand inside his Nissan Props The Fox
nineteen Jennifer Baker for reporting jesuse. Others arrested three more,

(53:02):
Kenneth Boland, twenty one of Corbyn, Flonia's assault aggravated riot
Deonte Conyers nineteen, West Price Hill Flowi's assault, aggravator robbery
and improperly handing a firearm in a motor vehicle Haley
Hornsby eighteen aggravated riot and Filonia's assault further illustration of

(53:22):
the devolution of man. Three people were killed when a
plane crashed in a field in Florida. Happen on Sunday night.
Emergency crews in Levy County responded to the deadly plane
crash in a peanut field. All three people aboard the
plane were killed, according to officials in Levy County. FAA
and National Transportation Safety responded with local authorities to the crash.

(53:45):
Court of the aviation tracking company Flightwear playing twin engine
beachcraft baron fifty eight p rob Ryder knows what that is.
Records of the flight took off from an airport in Springfield, Kentucky,
scheduled land in Willison Airport. Instead of slowing as it
approached the airport, the records reflect the plane increase speed
and dropped suddenly. Thunderstorm report in the area of the

(54:06):
airport at the time of the crash, so I'm not
sure what's going on, but the NTSB investigators are working
to determine the cause of the crash and condolences to
the family members. Think that kind of was a local
thing there, And here's something interesting. Over three hundred Cincinnati
Public school students courted Brady Williams over at Fox nineteen
reporting do not have a place to sleep at night,

(54:28):
they say, oftentimes sleeping in their parents' cars. So the
Sinsi Public School districts trying a new approach, offering a
secure lot for families to sleep in their vehicles on
school property. Rebecca Beach of Project Connect, she's the program
coordinator at Project Connect, so she's been watching this for

(54:48):
fifteen plus years and saying that every year becomes a
bigger problem. So CPS opening a sleep lot at William
Howard Taft Elementary School with twelve spaces approved for family
to park there and sleep lot. They say, we'll have
all night security supplies to give families privacy, and their
neighborhood headquarters will be equipped to give out resources like

(55:10):
food and clothing while getting families in touch with job
and family services. They say Project Connected and already get
these families brief hotel stays when they find while they
fight a shelter, but there's a gap between checking out
and getting into a shelter. Sleep loot described as temporary
location until they find something more permanent. Six thirty five

(55:31):
right now, fifty five care six thirty nine On a Tuesday,
I got Jim on the line five one three, seven
four nine fifty eight hundred eight two to three to
found five fifty on eight and t phones Jim, thanks
for calling us morning. A happy Tuesday to you.

Speaker 14 (55:47):
Happy Tody, Brian, this couple of ship ones there. First
of all, I wouldn't the League of Women's Voters is
not a non partisan group.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
That's funny. God, No, Jim, I'm sorry to interject your
right Jill quite often screaming in my headset when he
said that Corey Bowman didn't respond to the legal women
Voters and Joe's screams like that's because there are a
bunch of left wingers. It's hardly an unbiased organization. I'm
glad you chimed in on that.

Speaker 14 (56:14):
Even I here in Clarmont County, they're not going to
be trusted. The second thing was look into that female
run and for governor and in Virginia. My understanding now
is that she taught in the Islamic Saudi schools there,
which is a midrasso in the United States, and the
guard government won't do hang about them.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Well, why would you want them to do something.

Speaker 14 (56:35):
About it because they're turning out terrorists.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Well, I don't think you can paint with that broad
of a brush. There are other religious schools out there
that don't turn out terrorists. We're entitled to the free
exercise of religion. If you want to send your kids
to a religious school, you have every right to do that.

Speaker 14 (56:52):
Well, the experience from people coming out there is not
very good, so for some of them, and that's the
bad choice that they made.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yep, you make bad choices. You live with the repercussions
of bad choices. Use that as a marketing tool to
recommend children not attend those particular schools. Identify the specific
reasons why they're radicalizing our kids, come up with the
print out of their curriculum to show people what is
being taught there. And if, of course they are actually
engaging in criminal activity, there is an ability to shut

(57:18):
them down through the criminal channels. But just saying we
shouldn't have these schools I think really as a violation
of the First Amendment, and it flies in the face
of my constant drum beat that we should be entitled
to choose the schools where our children go. If I
may fundamentalist Muslim, then I probably want to raise my
children as fundamentalist Muslims. It's not illegal to do that

(57:39):
until they go off and engage in criminal activity, in
which case maybe their religion or their fundamentalism drove them
to commit crime. But is the crime that they will
be arrested for, not their belief systems? So, I mean,
really is an important thing we need to keep in mind,
because then you end up becoming those guys you want
to ban this, but you don't want to ban that.
I don't want to be the party of or the

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political position is thereingly to ban things that are arguably,
if not completely protected by our constitution free speech, exchange
of ideas? Is there a better path for your children
classical education? I would recommend outstanding way to learn, documented,
tried and true, in tried and true methodology, So say
whether or not religion is also taught classical education, I

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would argue you should be the core foundation of your
educational choices. You want a successful child, that's the kind
of school you want them in five three, seven, four
nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three
talk or go with Tom five fifty on AT and
T phones. Yeah, Jay Jones got to kick out of
the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal on this one.

(58:44):
Jay Jones, you probably are aware of the comments he
made in cndiary and awful they are. How can how
is it that so many Democrats can continue to support
this guy? How do you judge content of character? Right?
Would you judge people based upon their actions, their words,
their deeds? How do you know whether a candidate is
the right person for the job. Maybe you look at

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their words, their deeds, what their platform is they're running on.
Journal points out does politics still recognize such a thing
as a career ending scandal? Jay Jones is the Democrat
nominee for Virginia Attorney General. I think it's an important
thing to emphasize the highest legal position in the state

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of Virginia. Question is whether he will remain that for
long after reports of a shocking series of text messages
he's sent in twenty twenty, two months after he resigned
as a state legislator. At the time, the state House
was led by Republican Speaker Todd Gilbert. Here's one section
with mister Jones wrote to a former colleague, initially reported

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by the National Review on this past Friday, quote three people,
two bullets, Gilbert Hitler and Paul Pott. Gilbert gets two
bullets to the head fur of the Republican Speaker Todd Gilbert. Right,
so you got Hitler, Paul Pot and Gilbert standing in
front of him. He is saying, I would use two

(01:00:08):
of the bullets on Gilbert spoiler. Put Gilbert in the
crew with the two worst people you know, and he
received both bullets every time. Now, the person was a
lawmaker he sent these texts to, and I think it
was inadvertently he didn't want to send it there, obviously
saying the quiet part out loud to a I believe

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it was a Republican colleague. Lawmaker was sent these messages
push back, writing that mister Jones had made a comment
on the phone about hoping Gilbert's children had died or
would die. Yes, I've told you this before, Jones said,
only when people feel pain personally do they move on

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to policy, referring to I believe to Speaker Todd Gilbert's
wife and their two children said, you know, it'll prevent
him from raising fascist or something along those lines. So
I mean it went from bad to worse. Miss Jones.
Venom wasn't reserved only for mister Gilbert. If those guys

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die before me, I will go to their funerals. And
he didn't use the word urinate, but I'm substituting the
p word urinate on their graves. He wrote. At another
point in the chain, send them out a wash in something.
Of course, that will be his urination. And Journal's opinion,

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these ought to be disqualifying sentiments from someone hoping to
be Virginia's top law enforcement officer. Jones said, reading back
those words made me sick to my stomach. His own words.
I reached out to Speaker Gilbert to apologize directly to him.
His wife, Jennifer and their children said he can't take

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back his words, but he can take full accountability. And
in this particular case, the Journal and Brian Thomas and
many others are saying that means stepping as but lo
and behold, don't get distracted, Dan Scott, who's the Virginia
House Speaker Democrat, of course, don't get distracted. We have
to be mature and are thinking about how we vote.

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We can't get distracted because they want us to get
distracted by the text message here or something else. Stay focused.
Is it truly a distraction? I mean, this guy made
the statement, and that he insisted he was sticking with
them in this exchange back and forth. He had every
opportunity to say, now you know what, I crossed the

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line there. I really don't want them to see their
children murdered. I really don't think he deserves two bullets
versus Hitler and Paul pod I'm sorry. I shouldn't have
resorted to threats of violence because I'm an anti gun
guy to start with. I do know the state of law,
but multiple opportunities ahead of it being revealed to the world.

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See his only regretted he got caught saying what he believes.
So when you're evaluating a candidate, do you factor this
into the equation or do you ignore it and not
get distracted. I think it goes to content of character personally,
and this is exactly why we have free speech in America,
so you can judge the content of people's character. If

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we didn't have free speech and no one said anything
out loud for fear of being docks or otherwise criticized,
then you might not know what's roaming around in their minds.
You give these people an opportunity to say what they
really truly mean. They do it quite often behind closed doors.
So why you have operations like Project Veritas out there.
There's a truth out there behind the scenes that they're
willing to talk about out loud. But then there is

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the version of what they say that's presented to us
in neatly packaged forms in the American media. He should
bow out, and the list of Democrats who have endorsed
him and who continue to endorse him is mind boggling.
This is the kind of issues we're facing as we

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fast approach well a variety of elections, including well the
one that's taking place in November. Here. Early voting starts
today six forty eight fifty five cares off KCV talk station.
Happy Tuesday, kind of hear from Senator John Houston coming
up at seven point thirty. Of course, a lot to
talk about with the Senator, and I thinking of going
back to these briefly, these these crazy comments from Jay Jones,

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in spite of the fact that he made them and
a really awful The list of public officials that have
already endorsed him that it's still as of last night,
still endorse them. Ten state senators, thirty six delegates, eleven
former members of the Virginia General Assembly, sixty seven currently
elected local officials, nineteen labor unions, twenty five advocacy and

(01:04:45):
issue based organizations, including a handful of anti gun organizations,
which is surprising given his comments about using a firearm
to murder an elected official. See what Bobby's got, Bobby,
Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
Thing to you, my brother. I just wanted to thank
you for everything you do. Try to educate these left
wing Marxists. Now, I got one thing to say to them.
Sit down, shut up, and pay attention. That's all I
could say.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Appreciate that, Bobby. Yeah, you got to look out for yourself.
The fools's look as the one that's not looking out
for his or her own best interests. And of course,
as much as politics impacts our day to day lives,
you need to pay attention to who you vote for.
Speaking a communist, Zorhan Mandami, his records catching up with them.
He regularly denies he's a communist. I'm not a communist. Okay, Really,

(01:05:37):
how about all the examples where you have advanced communism
quote speaking to the Democrats Socialists of America conference in
twenty twenty one. Right now, if we're talking about the
cancelation of student debt, if we're talking about in Medicare
for all, you know, these are issues which have the
groundswell of popular support across this country. But then there

(01:05:59):
are also so other issues that we he in the
mouse in his pocket firmly believe in, whether it's BDS
or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means
of production, where we do not have the same level
of support at this very moment. End goal is boiled

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down the Communist Manifesto in a statement seizing the means
of production. It's all over the blaze, mom. Dammy's inner
circle includes his campaign, what he calls brain Trust, includes

(01:06:43):
a person named Seal Weaver, a housing advocate with well
Communist ties, former coalition director Housing Justice for All, which
is a group that counts dozens of radical far left
organizations among its members, including the Communist Party of the
United State, Dates of America. We have one of those
along with the New York Young Communist League Weaver in

(01:07:05):
twenty seventeen elect more communists seese private property. This is
part of his brain trust, and of course he's already
called for while running bus lines the city. And of
course grocery stores. State stores are the bread and butter
of communism, except they don't contain either bread or butter
and are usually empty, said Mike Gonzales, who's with the

(01:07:26):
Heritage Foundation most and tracking Zorhan Mandabi's almost recitation line
for line out of the car marks communist manifesto. No no, no, no,
I'm a democrat socialist. Tell me what that means. That's
a term of art that's only popped up in the
last decade. It's made up when you hear democratic socialists

(01:07:50):
just think communist or to talk about After the top
of the air, new is felled by Senator John Houston
at seven thirty Love to hear what sony mind, So
feel free to give me a call. I'll be right back.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Every day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Seven oh six a fifty five kr c DE talk station,
Happy Tuesday, looking forward to the bottom of the hour.
Senator down Houston returns to the program. Of course, the
Schumer shut down in full effect. They had an opportunity
to vote, and they did, and they did not open
the government. Last night, another vote on the continuing resolution
passed in the house keeping funding at the last year level.
The Biden funding levels not good enough for the Democrats

(01:08:45):
who want to expand the tax subsidies or keep them
place to tax somebody. That's what it boils down to,
you know, subsidies that were there because of COVID nineteen period.
I can't get how simple this is. Their Democrats want
to continue to provide quote free, close quote healthcare for

(01:09:06):
people making over sixty two to five, which only does
invariably includes a lot of illegal immigrants. Has been well documented.
But it's not just illegal immigrants who are getting on Obamacare.
It's other people who make more than sixty two to
five year who are getting the supplements, making it look
like Obamacare is free when it's not. You and I
are paying the premium. It's a train wreck of a situation.

(01:09:28):
We'll hear what John Houston has to say about that.
But also pivoting over to something else, have we talked
about this morning, the FBI spying on Republican members of
Congress and this is really disturbing. So Senator Houston at
the bottom of the hour, fast forward an hour inside
Scoop with Bright Barton News, we'll hear from Texas Border
editor Bob Price, who returns to the show to talk
about Ice being under attack. Of course, we got all

(01:09:48):
these terrible things going on in Portland and Chicago and
elsewhere in the country, So that the topic with Bob Price.
That's eight oh five, and then Daniel Davis Deep dive
and thanks to Streker, executive producer for reminding me it
is man. I can't believe it's been two years the
anniversary of Hamas's attack on Israel. I know, Donald Trump's
been busily trying to negotiate some sort of peace resolution

(01:10:10):
with his twenty point plan requiring Amas to give up
the hostages. First looked like we're making some progress toward
that goal. We'll see what Daniel Davis has to say
about that, and of course the ongoing saga of the
conflict between Russia and Ukraine well and pretty much the
rest of the world. Then following that, we're gonna hear
from one of the great doctors from OHC my cancer doctors.

(01:10:33):
It's Breast Cancer Awareness Month. I always expect OHG to
show up with some OHC, to show up with some
good news about cancer treatment. So Breast Cancer Awareness Month
five three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred, eight hundred
and eighty two to three talk. So the Senate Republicans
had a meeting yesterday, and it was revealed in this
press conference that the FBI spied on eight Senate Republicans

(01:10:55):
and one House Republican lawmaker twenty twenty three. During the
Justice Department's inquiry into the twenty twenty presidential election and
the January first drunken riot. Newly uncovered FBI document related
to an investigation called Arctic Frost. That was what was

(01:11:18):
going on when they spied on the Senators, and they
were one Republican representative showed the Biden Air investigation led
to Special Council Jack Smith's indictment of President Trump on
charges related to election interference. We all know where that
went nowhere, charges ultimately dismissed when Donald Trump got elected.
That investigation called Arctic Frost, launched in twenty twenty two

(01:11:39):
look into the circumstances about the January sixth, twenty twenty
one riot. The call records obtained by the FBI in
secret date from January fourth through January seventh of twenty
twenty one. Yes, right, involving that time around the riot
appeared to be tied to the Republican lawmakers vote to

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certify the twenty twenty election. Now they're going to be
on record and voting. Why would you want to spy
on these senators and this lone Republican about what their
vote might or might not be. Senator Charles Grassley called
these revelations worse than Watergate. All right, So we have
this FBI document, It's dated September of twenty twenty three,

(01:12:22):
partially redacted indicated, and an unidentified FBI special agent quote
conducted preliminary toll analysis on limited toll records. We'll get
to what that means in a second. Senators Graham, Haggerty, Hally, Sullivan, Tuberville, Johnson, Loomis,

(01:12:45):
and Blackburn the target of this toll record inquiry. Now,
apparently the toll analysis that is described as a term
used to analyze cell phone calls and record and the
document is labeled quote all caps CAST assistance. Now apparently

(01:13:08):
CAST is a reference to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's
Cellular Analysis Survey Team. So the survey team is looking
into the cell phone calls and records. They say, the
data recovered in the spy operation shows when and to

(01:13:29):
whom a call is made, as well as the duration
and general location of the call. Now it's pointed out
it does not include the content of the call. My
understanding is they obtained this from a subpoena to the
cell phone providers. Why And I'm kind of scratching my
head wondering what the probable cause was to allow the

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FBI to get these records. Did they have probable cause
to believe there was a crime being committed that these senators,
these specifically identified eight were involved in some sort of
criminal activity the same senator, some of which were targeted
at twenty sixteen in the Obama administration's Justice Department also

(01:14:13):
spied on the Trump administration team after winning the presidential election.
Senator Johnson said, this is major corruption that's being revealed
inside the Obama and Biden Department of Justice and FBI.
This doesn't surprise me, but it should just cocked a
Russian collusion claim that was predicated on the Steele dossier,

(01:14:33):
which was a lie coordinated effort. Number one. We need
to get Hillary Clinton elected. Let's create a fake narrative
that Donald Trump's working with the Russians and urinating on
prostitutes or whatever was in that nonsense, all thoroughly debunked,
paid for by the Democratic Party, used by our elected
officials in the federal government as a predicate to serve

(01:14:53):
search warrants in otherwise investigate what were they claimed were crimes,
but crimes that well probable cause was supported by the
Steel affidavit, which was made up whole cloth nonsense. Now
that failed. Donald Trump got elected because well, Hillary Clinton
got involved in her own email server scandal, which made
her look really, really bad. Segue over to this ongoing

(01:15:15):
Russian collusion investigation, which bogged down the entire administration Donald
Trump's first administration term, again continuing to perpetuate a lie
thoroughly and ultimately debunked. Segue over to this overthrow the
election claim based upon January sixth, which hung around Donald
Trump's head for a long time until those claims were
dismissed because he got elected President Silence and the Democrats

(01:15:43):
on this I guarantee you is going to be deafening.
They're probably going to defend it, and they'll probably view
this abuse of Donald Trump's constitutional rights and these senators
constitution rights. I might more clearly state that it's okay
because well, they're on evil Orange man side, much in
the same way you can justify violence against conservatives or

(01:16:05):
even MAGA people or anybody who's you know, fulfilling Donald
Trump's mission the reasons he got elected. If you're on
that team, then you deserve to die. And if you're
on that team, it doesn't matter if we lied. We're
going to get this in front of the public's view
point of the field of view, and we're going to

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keep harping on it and beating into the ground until
we convince you that what we are saying, even though
it's lies, is in fact truth, and they don't care.
There's no morality associated with this. It's like democrats. When
I lived in Chicago, I've said this, made this point
many times. There's so much obvious corruption in Democrat controlled

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Chicago government, and they're all painfully aware of it. But
it's okay. It's their corruption. They're enjoying the benefits of
being corrupt. Democrats are and so they almost wear it
as a badge of honor. It's like delivering for John F.
Kennedy in his election. You know a lot of people
pointing to the fact that fifty thousand dead people in

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Chicago voted. That's okay, though, because our guy won break
the rules in the name of winning. It's okay because
it's our guy who wins based on the lie. But
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Senator John Houston
has to say about this spying going on. And trust me,
this ain't over. It's going to be thoroughly investigated. And
in fact, the senators said, we're not even going to

(01:17:30):
do our own investigation. We are confident for a change
that Attorney General Pam Boundy and Director Cash Bettel will
hold accountable those involved in this quite serious wrongdoing. If
Republicans did this, it would be headlines from Coast to
coast seven sixteen fifty five k see the talk station

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head One of the listeners early this morning, Jay talking
about cover since he because well do you need that now?

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
Backs up above Montana, Chuck Ingram. You find z the
talk station.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
It's seven twenty one. If you bought KERCD talk station
It's early voting day beginning here in Hamilton County, City
of Cincinnati. Early vote starts to day. Just find out
when the Hamlon County Board of Elections is open. The
hours tend to vary depending upon what day you're planning
on going. But hit the ground running. A welcome this
morning to a text from Christopher Smithman reminding me early
voting starts today and to not vote for all nine

(01:18:25):
council members. Pick the ones you want, can stick to,
like three, four, maybe five, and leave it there. You
don't want to water down the vote. Really important advice
as we fast approach the election. I can't believe fast
approaching the election anyway. As far as the election goes,
of course, you got a choice in the city. Corey
Bowman have to have purvol and since I inquire reached
out to them, I believe they provide a written responses

(01:18:46):
to question. But Scott Wortman, reporting on this, read it
for yourself Cincinnati dot Com. Question. Crime is at issue
in the first question, according to the latest Cincinni Police statistics,
Pause and ask yourself do you believe them? I interjected
that violent crimes and property crimes citywide are down compared

(01:19:06):
to last year. At this time, some areas, such as
the Central Business District, have seen in increases in both
violent crimes and property crimes in the past year. Question,
how would you describe the crime in Cincinnati and what
would you do about it? Now? I'm thinking about Fred's
call this morning. He says, you know, it's not bad.
It's not I mean, you can go anywhere. Other people

(01:19:27):
will have an exact opposite conclusion. So there's mixed opinions
about crime in downtown Cincinnati. I know that's a statement
with shocks no one aftab Perwoll's response, what would you
do about it? Date quote data is important, the fact
that violent crime has dropped since we've taken office and

(01:19:48):
implemented our strategies. It's also true our neighborhoods have faced
real public safety challenges. Seems like a contradictory statement, And
what we have cons in distantly heard from our residents is
that they want the city to feel safer. So crime's down,

(01:20:08):
but they still want more. And it goes back to
one of the point where the caller made earlier. Anybody
being a victim of crime, most notably teenagers and thirteen
year olds getting shot and gunned down in the city
of Cincinnati, regardless of color of skin. Holly getting punched
in the eyeball for doing literally nothing. This is a problem.
We all perceive it. So down upcrime, down crime. It's
still bad. It's crime, and they want to the city

(01:20:30):
to feel safer, all right, So he goes on this council,
and I have responded by prioritizing police visibility by instituting
walking patrols, bike patrols, and increasing presence of CDRT, which
is the Civil Disturbance Response Disturbance Response Team and SWAT.
But we've also prioritized enforcement by strengthening our loitering laws

(01:20:51):
recently in some areas, strengthening enforcing our curfew, partnering with
the governor and highway patrol. Well, you didn't take up
the full partnership with the governor there, did you? Aftab
two days a month versus a full month? This count
and I will continue to consistently prioritize competitive FOP contracts
and police recruit classes to dig out of the under

(01:21:13):
investment by previous councils that left our police department undermanned
and underfunded. Close quote, wasn't he a defund the police
kind of guy, isn't he? Evenbra iris Roli is under
contract with his administration. She hates the police and blaming
prior councils. Prior councils, as far as I can see,
we're all Democrats, So yeah, it's your camp of prior

(01:21:36):
council failures. Aftab Bowman, for his part, says, the question
shouldn't focus on how I describe crime, but how Cincinnati
residents perceive it. The residents, business owners, police officers, and
first responders I've spoken with overwhelmingly say our city is unsafe.
This reflects an administrative failure from top to down. Our

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plan eliminate or reduce distracting and cost city initiatives, alternative
response programs i e. In lieu of police send the
community activists and community responders, efforts that undermine the importance
of a strong police force dedicated to protecting and serving
the community. Encouraging the police department to actively engage with
the community through patrols by a car, bike, foot, prioritizing

(01:22:18):
crime prevention over merely responding to worst case scenarios. Return
control of the Emergency Communications Center, currently managed by city
employees to the police Department and public safety officials to
ensure experience, personnel, handle reporting and dispatching. He concludes with
empowered police officers to enforce laws and urge county prosecutors

(01:22:39):
to fulfill the responsibilities, ending the catch and release approach. Oh,
there's your two contrasting opinions. You're in the city. You
decide are the statistics accurate? Are they right? Do you
really feel safe? And what does AFT have provol done
that has worked to deal with the crime problem, if anything?

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Seven twenty six Right now, Senator John Houston coming up
the next first word for USA installation. It's the last year.
Five K the Talk station. It's seven thirty here fifty
five KRC the Talk Station. Happy Tuesday, Brian Thomas, Please
as I can be to welcome the former Lieutenant cover
of the State of Ohio and currently Centator from the
State of Ohio, John Houston. Welcome back, man. It's a

(01:23:23):
pleasure to have you on the program today.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
I'm great to be with you.

Speaker 12 (01:23:27):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
And last time I checked, there was another vote last
night of the Republican Continuing Resolution continuing Joe Biden era
funding levels without any any cuts in government, which we'd expected.
We were hoping that we get some cuts. No, but
the cr passed, it was clean, This was a Democrat
era funding level. And yet it isn't satisfying the Democrats.
They're saying no because they want to continue to allow

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these pandemic era subsidies to continue. Now, my recollection, John Houston,
is that because of COVID, they use that as a
justification to provide these these these tax benefits, making Obamacare
appear to be free for people making north of four
hundred percent of the poverty level. The previous cutoff was
sixty two to five, so they get rid of that,

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and it was unfunded. There were no taxes raised to
cover the nut on this, and of course our federal
deficit grew what five point seven trillion dollars in one
calendar year. It just was an amazing expenditure. But never
have they decided how they're going to pay for it,
and these The CBO is estimating that continuing these these
freebies will cost three hundred and fifty billion dollars over

(01:24:35):
the next decade. But they were temporary and they were
set to expire at the end of the year under
the Democrat's own hand of the inflation reduction and they
knew this was coming a mile away. They wrote the
law Senator Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
Well, here's the deal.

Speaker 7 (01:24:50):
We just need to keep the government open.

Speaker 12 (01:24:52):
We have passed the clean CR. Democrats of Chuck Schumer
goods for clean CR thirteen times over the previous four
years under Biden. The only difference is Donald Trump as president.
But now they want to shut down the government because
they're getting pressured from their left flank to show that
they're being tough and standing up. Well, you know what,
they're being tough in standing ups, costing the American taxpayer

(01:25:13):
four one hundred million dollars a day to pay furloughed
federal workers, and they get no productivity out of them.
You get nothing in return for your four hundred million
dollars a day that Chuck Schumer is wasting by shutting
down the government. There's number one, number two what they
keep offering. And by the way, I voted for the
fifth time last night to keep the government open with

(01:25:33):
a clean CR, just current funding levels. Keep debating the
unresolved issues, but their proposal would allow for health care
under Medicaid, those costs for illegal aliens to be paid
for by you, the American taxpayer. That's one of the
things in their provision. They also want to continue to

(01:25:54):
allow people who are healthy, able by adults to receive
free health care without doing any thing in return for it.
These this, this is the nonsense that Doug us into
this hole. We're not going to capitulate to that. But
what we will do is have a clean cr keep
government open, and then negotiate on all the other issues

(01:26:15):
that they want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Well, I suppose you know, as my understanding is, Obamacare
succeeded in doubling the number of people enrolled in the
program because they gave away these basically free premiums. Everybody
was eligible for free insurance. A whole bunch of people
went to Obamacare rather than choosing their own. To expand this,
ultimately the conclusion one can easily reach, this is what
they've wanted all along, one size fits all, government paid

(01:26:41):
for health care for everyone. That's why they don't want
to pull back these subsidies.

Speaker 12 (01:26:46):
Well, but by the way, look, we all want working people,
people who are working doing their best, trying hard. We
want them to be able to afford healthcare. But this
is not the way to go about it. Because I
want to go through a few of the things that
happened under this program that they're advocating for is that
insurance brokers just sign people up. It's very easy to

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sign people up. They've signed up thousands, it's not millions
of people over time, but many of them aren't real
because the individual doesn't receive a subsidy from the center
of government. The insurance company does. So these brokers sign
people up, they don't even know they have the insurance
in some cases, and boom, the federal government sends a

(01:27:31):
payment to the insurance company and the broker gets a
commission off of it. There is at least a billion
there may be as much as thirty billion in fraud
that's come from that failure. And you know this frian
because we've talked about all the pandemic failures. Two hundred
billion of fraud under the PPP, one hundred and thirty
billion of fraud under the unemployment compensation system, and now

(01:27:53):
this what they call enhanced pandemic premium subsidy, billions of
dollars of fraud into that. Well, this is a non
starter to have a negotiation over a program that's that
full of fraud. And then Secondly, it does nothing to
drive down the cost of health care.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Oheah.

Speaker 12 (01:28:13):
Does this say for one person that's making one hundred
thousand dollars a year for that family, it says you
have to subsidize the other family who doesn't have the
insurance program that you do, and they have one under Obamacare.
They want you to subsidize their insurance via the government.
That is not containing health care costs, That is using
one taxpayer to subsidize the health care cost of another taxpayer.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Senator John Houston, let's pause from and have a few
questions relating to this. If the government opens, for example,
or is there still a possibility of continuing these subsidies,
because I know that's what the Democrats want to continue
talking about. Seven thirty six More talk station coming up
on seven forty I fify bot Kcity Talk Station. Brian
Thomas enjoying this conversation. I hope you're enjoying it as well.
Senator John Houghston, talking about the government shutdown. Democrats said

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no last night to another vote on the cr the
clean one. Do you sense any cracks in the dam
of obstructionism? Senator Houston, do you think you're going to
get a couple more senators from the Democrats to wake
up to reality and reopen the government.

Speaker 12 (01:29:15):
I'm not optimistic that it's going to happen this week.
They have a big rally plan, one of those note
kings rallies you know that, ye have. They have one
plan for the eighteenth of October here in Washington, d C.
And so I don't think that they they're going to
end the shutdown until they get to have their big rally.

(01:29:36):
I mean, frankly, because most of this is political anyway.
It's not about it's not about being serious. It's about
you know, them being able to show their base that
they're standing up to Donald Trump well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
And moving more towards socialized medicine for all too.

Speaker 12 (01:29:52):
Yeah, well, there's no doubt about that. But as you
know that march has been on for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Yes, go back to Hillary Clinton on that one. Can't
we But this the cr is is I guess, has
been presented for the purpose of keeping the government open
until sometime in November so you can finish the twelve
appropriations bills, a project that hasn't been done since nineteen
ninety seven. Even though it's really like the ultimate point
of the jobs of elected officials, get us a budget,

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twelve appropriations bills, So is work being done on those
right now while the government's shut down?

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
I mean, yeah, four of them.

Speaker 12 (01:30:29):
Four of them have been already passed, so you could
we could put the four of them in one of
the resolutions been done on a bipartisan basis. They need
to get the other eight done. But I mean informal
conversations are going on. But you know, I'm not on
the Appropriations committee, but for the most part of both
sides have walked away from that discussion until you get

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the continuing Resolution accomplished. And I mean, really, all we're
asking for is to say, hey, pass this, give us
until November the twenty first. They're not giving up any
level because November twenty first, we can do this all
over it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:31:02):
If we don't get our job done, it's just a
question of whether the government's going to operate and serve
the American tax payers or the government's going to be
closed to me, continue to negotiate. Think about this, America
is paying four hundred million dollars a day for furloughed workers.
They'll ultimately receive this back pay, but we're getting no

(01:31:23):
production out of them. They're not processing your permits, they're
not issuing your licenses, they're not doing any of that eventually.
But they will get paid eventually, and you will have
received no service.

Speaker 7 (01:31:35):
Sports.

Speaker 12 (01:31:36):
This is how silly this all is. It's bad for America.
It's selfish and political. B Truc Shumer.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Well, doesn't this provide a opportunity for Donald Trump to
fire people? I mean, you have non essential government workers
like men and women in uniform that continue to perform
their task without a paycheck. We need them. There are
other non essential well, the whole idea of essential versus
non essential well sort of demands asking the question, well,
if they're non essential, why do we need them in

(01:32:04):
the first place. Isn't there a lot of fat we
could cut out of this insanely large government we have.

Speaker 12 (01:32:10):
Well, I think that they're already doing that. They're they're
ending projects that they've deemed as you know, not vital
or essential or maybe even wasteful. In rest vote, the
OLB director is going is taking a scalpel right now,
going through the budget and eliminating and furloughed workers. I

(01:32:31):
think you'll continue to see more of that as this
goes on because President Trump's not going to just sit there.
By the way, he offered yesterday to say, hey, open
the government backup, I'm happy to talk with you about
all of the issues related to the the the premium,
the subsidies for healthcare. He said he would be willing
to talk about it, but he's not gonna He's not

(01:32:52):
going to do it until they reopen the government. Then
that's clear. And so I imagine that we'll continue to
see cuts. I hope they'll do them in a targeted way,
because let's get rid of the things we don't need.
Let's not eliminate things that we're going to then have
to bring back. But then President said he'd be willing
to negotiate with them if they stop holding the American
people hostage in this particular case.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
And I'm glad you brought up that point because one
of the things I hear from Democrats has been widely reported.
They want to continue talking about this, but they want
some guarantees that there will be a discussion, which when
I hear that, hey, you can talk all day long,
but these are politicians. They can say one thing and
do another. It happens every day. But that they want
an actual guarantee up front that there will be some
extension of these subsidies along some level, which I would

(01:33:36):
say also as a non starter. So what's Donald Trump
really truly willing to entertain and talk about.

Speaker 12 (01:33:40):
Senator Well, here's the deal, what we would be, what
we're asking for us to keep talking until November twenty first,
it's a government open talk till that. The enhanced premium
subsidies don't end until the end of the year. I
understand there's notifications going out with the last side, but
this doesn't until the end of the year. And by

(01:34:02):
the way, if you wait until November the twenty first,
what harm do you have? Then you can if you're
if you're the Democratic combecs, we'll see. They didn't they
didn't do anything. But frankly, this is this is just
for political theater for Chuck Schumer to prove that he's
being tough. It has nothing to do with the negotiation

(01:34:23):
right now, because there are negotiating. There are no negotiations
as long as the government shut down, and there shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Senator Houston, one more question, we were missing my obligations
as a curious person and viewing the announcement yesterday that
the FBI spied on eight senators and one Republican minor
of Congress, all Republicans, this operation Arctic Frost and connection
with the January sixth riots. Were you at the press
conference on this, I'm just going to gauge your reaction
to the whole idea that some elected officials were spied

(01:34:51):
on between January fourth and January seventh, twenty twenty one.

Speaker 12 (01:34:56):
Well, I was not at the news conference, but I
did talk to some of my colleagues who were spied on,
and you know, they really have been a hard time
believing that their own government spied on them, surveiled their phones.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Checked who they called.

Speaker 12 (01:35:12):
Really it was it was an out of control, out
of control effort under the Biden administration UH to go
back and relitigate January sixth and then try to implicate
members of the of the US Senate by spying on them.
And this is this is you're going to see. Many

(01:35:32):
of my colleagues who are spied on are are just
outraged by the fact that the executive branch spied on
them without their you know, without any knowledge, without you know,
if they wanted to talk with them. They could have
come talk with them. They need to spy on them
for goodness sakes, and this is there's going to be
huge ramifications. I think. I think you'll see litigation, lawsuits.

(01:35:55):
I think you'll see criminal prosecutions.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Over it, criminal prosecutions, perhaps a civil rights lawsuitsince their
constitutional rights were violated and where's the probable cause that
would allow them to get records of elected officials phones
and who they called.

Speaker 12 (01:36:10):
I think that basically that anybody who received a phone
call from Rudy Giuliani was were the people that got surveilled.
I think that's exactly what happened. But more information will come.

Speaker 7 (01:36:23):
Out on that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I look forward to that popcorns out on that one.
Senator John Houston, I can't thank you enough for your
time today. Keep up the great work, and we're all waiting,
looking forward to seeing what happens. You're always welcome here
on the fifty five Case Morning Show, sir, Thank you
very much. Ice in the cities of Chicago and Portland
and elsewhere. Daniel Davis deep dive anniversary of Hamas attack
on Israel two years ago today. I just can't believe

(01:36:45):
that much time has gone by. We'll hear about the
Gaza Israeli potential piece. Maybe can hope for it. And
of course the latest on Russia and Ukraine that'll take
place at ay thirty. In the meantime, score to the phone,
see what Teya has, Tya. Thanks for Collin. It's good
to hear from it's been a.

Speaker 15 (01:36:59):
While, Hey, Brian, I know it's good to hear you
as well.

Speaker 12 (01:37:04):
Brian. I just you know, I'm an.

Speaker 15 (01:37:05):
Equal opportunity agitator, so I have to point out the
palpable irony that Republicans elected. Republicans are upset that their
own government is spying on them. I mean they ushered
in the surveillance states. Ah, they write, they continually renew it.

(01:37:26):
The patriarch has been renewed how many times? And they're
upset that their own government is spying on them.

Speaker 12 (01:37:33):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 15 (01:37:35):
They spy on us law abiding citizens twenty four seven,
on their constituents, who they put their hand on the
Bible and swore to Almighty God to keep free. And
so I you know, in the words of your dad, Brian,
I got too much to them on their happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
I appreciate that, Tim obviously for the sound of my voice.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
I'm elated that you brought that up, because it's true.
Judge of Polatonum, I talked about this so many times
over the years, has kind of lost track. Yeah, they're
hoovering up all of our communications, and you know, I
think they perceive it to be no harm, no foul
in hoovering up all of our all of our conversations,
in spite of the fact they have no probable cause,
they couldn't go to court to get a warrant to

(01:38:20):
do it. I think, well, you know what, Yeah, we're
doing it, but we're not using it against you in
a court of law. Oh okay, that makes it okay.
And it wouldn't be admissible in a court of law
if you did use it, because you hoovered it up
in violation of my Fourth Amendment rights to be free
of unreasonable searches and seizures. Yeah, well, exactly tell you what.
It's a constitutional civil rights violation for them to hoover

(01:38:40):
it up, whether or not they use it in a
court of law. So don't hold your breath waiting for
that to be addressed in a court of law. Apparently,
you know, like PHISI courts who issue warrants and allow
them to spy on us. You can't review that, you
can't lawyer up. You're not going to be there in
front of the judge and the Phisi court to make
your case. Sucks to be you, Tay, You're awesome. You're awesome.
Appreciate the rest.

Speaker 10 (01:39:00):
Friend.

Speaker 15 (01:39:01):
Yeah, one last thing I would say to all those
elected republic and hey, don't worry. There's nothing that can
go wrong.

Speaker 12 (01:39:09):
As long as you didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
And Taya, you may have hit the mix. You know what.
Maybe that's why Congressom Massey is the loudest no voice.
He'll stand up for anything that's constitutionally ground. I don't
think they have the goods on him, considering they hoover
up all the data. Just kind of scratching my head,
wondering out loud. Maybe just maybe someone behind the scenes
has that information and has mentioned to one of these

(01:39:33):
elected officials that, oh, do you imagine what happened to
you or your career if what we hoovered up in
violation of your constitutional rights, made it public and was
announced in public, was leaked to the mainstream media. Now,
how are you going to vote? That's a huge concern Tay,
I love you, Thank you so much, Take care you.
Two seven to fifty six. Right now we're gonna hear

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Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Good morning.

Speaker 16 (01:40:32):
Be back in the great city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Dealer's choice. I'm not quite sure where you want to
beg in Portland where the ice officials of the FED
has been kicked out, or rather the National Guards been
kicked up or suing to a court order. We've got
Chicago or Trump's trying to and trying to go another
have another go at that bringing about some lawterar in
the city of Chicago, and of course the fact that
ice agents are literally being attacked by people, and the

(01:40:54):
Chicago Police Department, most notably, was ordered to not render
assistance to their fellow officers. You know, Bob, last time
I checked assaulting a police officer. While that may be
a federal crime if the officer or agent happens to
be a federal employee, but that also is a violation
of state law. Doesn't the police department have an obligation
to enforce state law? So when someone in the city

(01:41:16):
of Chicago is getting a beat down, the person issuing
the beatdown will be prosecuted under Illinois law, maybe.

Speaker 16 (01:41:24):
You would think, and absolutely that's the case. This is
a violation of both state and federal law. And much
like Joe Biden's Afghanistan woodraw, the police of Chicago were
just literally ordered to back off and not protect these
law enforcement agents that were surrounded, blocked in and your

(01:41:44):
vehicles were blocked in, they were rammed, and one of
the officers or one of the agents excuse me, border
patrol agencies, were Border patrol agents that were actually up
there working on the operation Midway Blitz, you know, box
the men and ram their vehicles and so one of
these agents had to use his service weapon to defend

(01:42:07):
himself and ended up shooting one of the suspects.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
She was wounded and.

Speaker 16 (01:42:13):
Taken to the hospital later on. But you know, for
them to just back off like that, and I don't
know what law enforcement officer, despite the orders, could actually
do that, And yet they do that in Chicago and
in Portland as well, the Portland police. You mentioned Portland.
There's been an ongoing war against ice in Portland for

(01:42:35):
almost ten years now, and it's just a complete set
of lawlessness at the hands of a Democrat mayor like
you see in Chicago and Portland, Democrat governors who refused
to enforce the law.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Well, and you know, I see a clear pattern here,
and I have the sneaking suspicion the current FBI and
Department of Justice maybe looking into this, but we all
are aware of you know, paid protesters, organized activity there
or a bunch of left wing organizations out there who
are organizing. And if you organize for the purpose of

(01:43:12):
committing crimes, you've got a reco case right there. You know,
coordinated activity towards the furtherance of committing criminal activity. That's
a clear cut case. Any tea leave freading into the
future on that concept, Bob, whether there's going to be
some accountability out there and people will be prosecuted criminally
under RICO for this coordinated activity.

Speaker 16 (01:43:32):
Well at turn in general, Pam Bondi has absolutely said
that this is an organized activity. Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Christie Nulmas said the same thing. FBI Director Cash
Battel called this an act of domestic terrorism when they
attack these agents in Chicago, and so I would expect
very quickly to see that you can tell it's organized.

(01:43:56):
I mean, how do you get ten vehicles to all
of a sudden show up up and box in border
par relations. That clearly is an organized event that takes coordination,
that takes communication, and all of that is trackable by
the FBI, and so they will definitely be working on
that to take action on it. You see all of
them wearing the same kind of masks, You see them

(01:44:20):
carrying the exact same signs. You know that they're manufactured
in other protests we've seen around the country. You see
all of a sudden, blocks, palettes of center blocks show
up right next to where the protest is going to be.
All of these are indication that this is an organized
domestic terrorism group ANTIFA in particular, the President has said,

(01:44:43):
and you know, I very expect very soon to see that. Interestingly,
in Portland that you mentioned a while ago, there was
an incident over the weekend where journalist Nick Sorder was
arrested while out there doing his job in a random
act of law enforcement. Portland actually arrested two of the

(01:45:05):
thugs that attacked him as well, and then last night
they dropped the chargers against Nick. But they are still
saying they're going to prosecute the two people that attacked him.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Well, well, that is an unusual development considering as Portland.
But I thought it more comical and revealing was they
blamed the reporter for showing up that because he was there,
his mere presence was an agitating effect. In other words,
you should have known by showing up, given your position
relative to theirs, that you were going to cause basically

(01:45:38):
them to react violently. I mean, that's absurd. Bob.

Speaker 16 (01:45:44):
Katie Daviscourt was brutally attacked the night before and received
a black eye after being struck by a couple of assailants,
and she tracked these people down and showed them to
the police, and an officer called a discussion officer, whatever
the heck that means, actually refused to take them in

(01:46:07):
testody even though she identified them. The Portland Police Bureau
later came out and said, oh, we are actively looking.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
For these suspects.

Speaker 16 (01:46:14):
Well, you had them, and you just let them walk away.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Well, and we also have widely reported that there's bounties
on ICE officials head. I know there's an arrest of
a thirty seven year old gang member who offered a
ten thousand dollars bounty to kill a specific lawn for
a ICE agent there. That's frightening stuff, particularly when you know,
and I understand people's concerns about ICE officials wearing masks,

(01:46:39):
but California went the exact opposite direction in spite of
the lockdown mandates and forcing people to wear a masks.
Now they're prohibiting federal agents from wearing masks. Obviously pure
the outcome of this is going to make it it's
going to make it more easy to identify them docs
them go after family members. We have facial recognition software
which makes identifying people very easy. These days. It's almost

(01:47:01):
a facilitation and a subtle encouragement of violence against ICE officers.

Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
It's not even.

Speaker 16 (01:47:09):
Subtle anymore, Brian. It's a direct attack on these these agents,
encouraged by Democrat elected officials around the country at the
state and federal levels. When they describe these people as Nazis,
as gestapo, as authoritarians, you know, people feel emboldened to

(01:47:30):
take action against what they're being told is a reprehensible person,
a sub human being if you will, And and they're not.
These are dedicated law enforcement professionals that are out there
doing the job to enforce the laws that the Congress
of the United States enacted, and they are directed to
do so, and yet they're still being brutally attacked around

(01:47:52):
around the country. It you know, I did an article
a couple of days ago where a woman believe it
was in California, actually followed an ICE agent home, videotaping
the entire way, and when she got to his house,
she encouraged her viewers to come to his house and

(01:48:14):
take action against him, and then got out of her
vehicle started yelling into the streets that, you know, telling
all the neighbors that ICE agents live on their streets
and you know, encouraging them to do something about that
that you know, it's no wonder that. I mean, I
can't even imagine how you get people to take this
job at this day and time. And yet these brave

(01:48:35):
men and women do this every single day, but their
lives are being put at risk by Democrat leaders around
the country that not only refused to condemn the actions
of these people, but actually encourage it through their language.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
And sadly that extends way beyond just ICE agents, judges
being threatened, elected officials being threatened. I mean, we're in
a very dangerous, strange world with the with the internet
making it so easy to communicate, whether or not people
follow up on it, that threat is just hanging out
there for them to have to cope with on a
day to day basis. So salute to the law enforcement

(01:49:11):
folks out there and speaking of that, you know, I
kind of get this sense, Bob, we're certainly being misled,
but that this reaction to ICE, the lawsuits, challenging the
Feds doing their job and protecting federal property and enforcing
federal immigration law over which local officials don't have any control,

(01:49:31):
that the anti police and the defund the police has
sort of the it's it's time has expired. Looking at
the city of Cincinnati, very blue city, but most residents
really want more law enforcement. The idea that defund the
police and and and rethink and reimagine police seems to
be a failed concept for the left since they're applying

(01:49:52):
that same philosophy to ICE agents doing their law enforcement
work on a federal level. Do we don't have any
what like the average everyday Portlander once or the average
every day Chicagoan, they were screaming their heads off over
illegal immigrants invading their schools and communities and all the
resources that were allocated to pay for the illegal immigrant community.

(01:50:12):
You know, folks in Chicago typically Democrat, and yet they
were the ones that were screaming in protest over this.
You suspect that, behind the scenes, Bob, that residents of Portland,
residents of the city don't have any problem with ICE
being there and picking up these vile in many cases
like child molesters and rapists and murderers.

Speaker 16 (01:50:33):
Well, while we don't have direct comments from these residents
in these cities, we do have feedback from the effort
that President Trump put into Washington, d c. When he
sent in federal law enforcement and military National Guard to
defend the streets of Washington, d C. And not only
the residents, but the Democrat mayor of Washington, DC finally

(01:50:56):
came around and expressed their support for these actions admitted
that their city was safer because of this. In a
very short period of time. In Chicago, in this operation
Midway Blitz, they were removing hundreds of criminal, violent, criminal
aliens from the streets of Chicago. It's absolutely making it

(01:51:17):
safer there. In one instance, the Mortar Patrol agents went
into an apartment complex that had been taken over by
Trende Arragua gang members who've been declared to be a
foreign terrorist organization by the White House and secured that
community and restored order back there for the people that
lived there. And they found that there was drug trafficking

(01:51:39):
going on, and sex trafficking, weapons trafficking, and all of
these kinds of things, and they arrested a large number
of Crende Iragua gang members and took them out. So
absolutely the residents of that apartment complex felt much safer afterwards,
and you see that throughout these communities well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
And noting the type of individual will these very often
cases violent and violent or evil people, as I'll characterize them.
I just find it really puzzling that the Democrats so
widely reject ice trying to get these elements out of
our communities. Those people are a threat to everyone of
any political stripe. Democrats are resisting the idea of picking

(01:52:21):
up bad guys off the streets. Bob, I just don't
get it.

Speaker 16 (01:52:27):
Well, it's absolute idiocy controlling the Democrat Party at this
particular point in time, and when you look at what's
going on, they're on the wrong side of eighty twenty
or ninety ten issues on almost every single case, whether
it's securing the border, removing criminal aliens, or getting men

(01:52:47):
out of women's sports, all of these issues that Americans
are adamantly supporting President Trump on. They are on the
wrong side of that simply because of the fact that
Donald Trump is doing it. If Donald Trump came out
this week and announced that he was going to do
an initiative to provide free health care for every citizen
of the United States and it wasn't going to cost
the taxpayers a penny, Democrats would oppose it because Donald

(01:53:10):
Trump was doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
That's it boiled down exactly right. There's a lot of
memes floating around there I'm sure you've seen Bob Price
about that most literally Donald Trump recommending people drink their
own urine and seeing the Democrats say, or vice versa
or whatever, don't drink it, and then they drink it anyway.
At Texas Border editor, Bob Price, always appreciate your thoughts
and your insights, and you're writing over at Breitbart dot

(01:53:32):
com and again, listeners, just go ahead and bookmark that
when you'd be glad you did. Bob. We'll talk again
real soon, and thanks for all that you and the
team at Breitbart do every day.

Speaker 7 (01:53:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Will see you next time, looking forward to it. It's
eight nineteen their CD talk station, Happy Tuesday. Daniel Davis
Neeve Dive coming up. It's been two years today since
a moss attacked Israel. Twelve hundred people were killed this day.
Two years ago, two hundred and fifty folks were taken hostage,
a lot of them died. At this current moment, they're

(01:54:04):
apparently still holding about forty eight hostages, only twenty of
whom are still believed to be alive, and that may
be one of the sticking points. I want to ask
Daniel about that. How can you hand over hostages when
they're dead. Maybe the bodies might provide some family some
closure and help deal with that grief issue. But is
this thing going to get resolved? According to CNN, I

(01:54:24):
trust me, I understand the source. They say over sixty
seven thousand people have been killed in Gaza, and of
course a lot of civilians out there. If you've seen Gaza,
it is just an absolute well, it's like the Moonscape.
It's a tragic, terrible situation. But you know what when

(01:54:44):
when a terrorist organization controls your government? Going back to
do you think the residents of Portland are upset that
the National Guard's gone into help them try to clean
up a situation? If I was living in Portland, I
would kind of embrace the concept. Local law enforcement hasn't
been able to get on top of it, and your
elected officials are blank and crazy. If you're a citizen

(01:55:09):
of Gaza, you're not part of the government, You're just
living in a bombed out moonscape. I think you might
be a little dissatisfied with your representation anyway, status quo
at present. We'll see what Daniel Davis has to say
about that, and of course we're going to get an
update on the latest between Russia and Ukraine. That'll be
up next, and I hope you can stick around. It'll

(01:55:30):
be right back.

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Always my pleasure to be here, Brian. I always look
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Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I'm glad you do. It's a great segment and I
always end up learning a lot and sort of always
adjust my position because you really have an excellent way
of well maybe restating what we are fed in the
mainstream media's and that's it's a welcome, refreshing thing. So
it's the second it's two years since the attack on Israel.

(01:56:21):
They have twelve hundred people killed and two hundred and
fifty hostages taken. It's reported they have forty eight, and
Israel says, well, we only think twenty of them are
still alive. But a critical negotiation point. As we enter
the sit down discussions, or rather informal ones, you can
tell us what's going on with that. I thought the
initial predicate was, well, we'll stop fighting when you release

(01:56:41):
the hostages. Is some us presented with a stumbling block
because maybe a lot of them, maybe all of them,
are not even alive. I know the family members would
want the bodies returned, but do they do they have
anything to really turn over anymore?

Speaker 5 (01:56:57):
No, I think they do. That's certainly been the case.
They've been pretty open about how many are alive and
how many you're not so, I at least I certainly
hope that's the case. That would be a pretty cruel
twist if there was really none alive at all, But
you know, you couldn't hide that, so if you want
the war to come to an end, that would be
a problem. And by having some alive that's always been

(01:57:18):
there one of the very few, if not only, negotiating
cards that they could play. If they didn't have those,
then once that became apparent, then there would be no
reason for Israel to do anything except just you know,
put the floor of the gas of the floor, etc.
And driving militarily. So I don't think that they would
do that, but we'll find out pretty soon. In fact,

(01:57:38):
right now there is meetings going on in Egypt for
the second day in a row to try to bring
it into this And to your point a minute ago,
there was no specific connection to the fighting will stop
as soon as the hustage is a release. In fact,
President Trump has repeatedly asked since he made this announcement
a couple of days ago, that he wants Israel to

(01:57:58):
stop shooting right now wild the negotiations to get the
hostages back and all the other terms so that we
can bring an into the war. But Israel has not
done that, and so the fighting continues to go on
as well, and the negotiations continue simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
I hate to attempt to draw parallels with Russia and Ukraine,
but Israel has made some I know it's been bloody,
and some may argue it's immoral or whatever. Whatever your
position is relative to Israel. Goe after Godza. They've obviously
taken over a lot of land. They've recaptured some, they've
destroyed some of the infrastructure. They're quote unquote winning, I mean,

(01:58:36):
noting the civilian casualties. They're winning and making progress in
gods and much in the same way Russia continues to
win and make progress in Ukraine. Considering you mentioned the
hostages are about the only bargaining chip Pamas has. Are
we looking at kind of a comparable thing. They're in
a sense of maybe denial about the relative strength. I mean,
are they planning on fighting till the last man is standing?

(01:58:58):
What are their options for Hama?

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
You know, I think that in some ways that the
parallels are there, as you mentioned, I mean, there is
one side has a decisive advantage over the other, and
one wants to have negotiations while they're spotting. One wants
to have no negotiations. But other than that, there's some
pretty big differences too, in that I don't think that
there's anything militarily left to accomplish for Israel. They're just

(01:59:22):
blowing stuff up, and I'm not sure how that's useful
to their objectives, because you can't literally kill your way
to victory in here. They remember they went from the North,
you know, shortly after ten seven, which is today's the
two year anniversary that all the way down through Rafa,
all the way down to the Egyptian Gate, and then
they kind of started over. So now then they're moving

(01:59:43):
south again and there's almost nothing but you know, whatever's
left of not rubble, they're turning that into rubble now.
But there's no like actual combat actions going on, so
it's kind of just blowing a bunch of stuff up.
And listen, you know, the Palacintian people are the huge
losers in all of this. Whether it's Hamas doing stuff,

(02:00:03):
it's you know, dragging their feet on a negotiation, whether
it's the Israeli defense forces firing into stuff that has
no apparent military value, I don't know, but I do
know that those people are suffering, and I hope for
everybody's sake there this war comes to an end very
very quickly.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Okay, Now, if Israel continues down its current path and
you know, achieve you said, they've already achieved military victory,
but you know, they do whatever they think they need
to do in the in the area. But does that
mean they're going to be an occupying force on a
going forward basis? And what's that going to look like
for Israel going forward. Now, that's one of the.

Speaker 5 (02:00:37):
Big sticking points that's actually preventing the accomplishment right now
is the definition on what these points mean, these twenty
points that President Trump's team came up with, it Israel
says they agreed to. But then when you heard what
Benjamin Ett and Yahu said after the press conference with Trump,
there was some pretty big differences, and you just touched
on one of them. Where As the Trump plan said

(02:00:59):
that there would be an independent force, possibly an Arab force,
that everyone would agree to, that would provide security, that
would train a new Palestinian police force to keep civil security,
et cetera. But then the Benjamin Yahu said, we will
provide security indefinitely. He didn't even put a potential endpoint
on it. He just said that's what we're gonna do.

(02:01:21):
So those are huge, huge differences, and I think part
of what the Hamas negotiators are trying to figure out
right now and to try to assess what actually is
the definition of who's going to do, what will be
the withdrawal lines, what will be the withdrawal timelines, et cetera.
Because Hamas has categorically said we will stop fighting, we
will return all the hostage, and we will leave and

(02:01:43):
lay down our arms. So they have said yes to
the major issues, but the execution of the other details
is a big sticking point so far.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
And being a member of Hamas and saying okay, we'll
vacate the territory doesn't mean that the ideas that are
shared that Hamas has the idea that Israel's evil from
the to the sea. The concepts that you know are
that that really make up what Hamas is all about.
The hearts and minds of the people might still be
wed to those philosophies. We've talked about this before. You
can't kill your way into winning the hearts and minds

(02:02:11):
of people.

Speaker 5 (02:02:12):
Well, listen, there's there's some some pretty hard things that
everybody's gonna have to face here. Number one, it's the
term Hamas is just the tag that we use, right,
But when you as a people have been starved, have
been bombed, and have the entire infrastructure race to the ground,
that's not going to engender a lot of positive thoughts
toward the occupying power, the power that did that. So

(02:02:34):
I don't know how you erase that. That's one of
the things that Benjamin and Yaho said is a prerequisite
for all of this is that there be a basically
a re education program and retraining, you know, to teach
the new children from the Hamas, from the Palestinians, et cetera.
But honestly, that's that's I think an impossible task that
you can't call it. People don't feel bad about what

(02:02:56):
we did because of all this stuff. I don't know
how you square this, sir.

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
Maybe subject everyone to a mind control experiment. I'll of
like a clockwork orange where you tie him down and
you brainwash them and then they submit to your ideology.
There's an answer, But no, that's not going to happen.
All right, Well, I guess real quick on if Israel
is not the one providing this security, they have an army.
We must acknowledge they're at least in a position to

(02:03:23):
make an argument that they're capable of doing that. And
I understand all the objections to it. Don't get me wrong.
Who would be that force? Because it seems to me
that you're going to have some the necessity is going
to be some sort of peace keeping force like law
enforcement officers. Who's going to do that? The blue hair.
The light blue hats aren't going to do that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:45):
No, and that's one of the things they're talking about
right now. And there is a path here that could
be positive and it could help out because one of
the President Trump's signature ideals and things that he wants
as well as Israel then Yahoo, is that they want
the expansion of the Abraham Accords. Right, so this could
be an opportunity to say, Hey, some of these countries

(02:04:06):
that we want to have good relations with and some
that we already do, let's have some of the troops
from THEIRS who would be you know, honest brokers between
and respected by both parties. So there is a possibility
here as opposed to the blue hats you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
You know what, that's a sound and logical proposal as
it initially hits me.

Speaker 4 (02:04:23):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
You know, you have fellow Middle Eastern countries providing the
stability they need, and they're not pro Israel or pro Hamas.
They just live in that area and they want some
peace and sensibility and trading partners so they can all
live happily ever after. Right, Let's keep that in mind
as a potential solution to the problem. Pivoting over, Donald
Trump said he hasn't quite decided about sending Tomahawk missiles.

(02:04:44):
I suppose he'd give them the NATO. NATO would hand
them over to Ukraine. Is there anything different between that
and US giving them directly to Ukraine? Russia says, Listen,
that'll be the end of any relationship we have left
if you do that, Because apparently the Tomahawks have a
range that might allow Ukraine to hit Moscow.

Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
Yeah, they have some variants. There's different variants have range
of up to one thy five hundred miles, which is
like three or four times longer than even the A
tackums that we have for the regular long range missiles.
But this one is a bit more problematic. You can't
just give these missiles to Ukraine. They require to be
fired from either strategic bombers that Ukraine doesn't have, from

(02:05:23):
hard silos or systems that's called the typhoon that only
we have and there's only a few of them, or
ballistic missile submarines, so Ukrain doesn't have very many of those,
as I recall. So for these to be used, it
could only be done expressly by American military, which is
why Russia is reacting much more strong to this one,
because only American military in all fast facets of the

(02:05:47):
launch cycle would be doing this, and then it would
be a direct attack by the United States into Russia.
And that's why they are saying, no, this is not
like F sixteen's or a tackums or hamars or any
of those other things. This one's different and this is
not some place we need to go. It will not.
Let me just categorically state it will not change the
course of the war, but it could be a provoc

(02:06:08):
provocation for escalation.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
Not a good move. And it is rather disturbing because
I've heard you make comments like that before, and I've
heard others make the same comments. It's just not a
pervasive point. People just talk about are we going to
give Tomahawk missiles either indirectly or directly, and you think
it's just like a shipment of a box. You give
it to them and they can launch them. The fact
that it will absolutely require American military personnel and American

(02:06:31):
military hardware that Ukraine does not operate that clearly implicates
us directly. It's like boots on the ground kind of activity.
How do you think Russia would respond to that I know,
world War III is certainly a possibility, but short of
like declaring war on the United States, what would there
sort of militarily appropriate action be. Daniel Davis.

Speaker 5 (02:06:51):
One of the things we've seen pretty consistently from Russia
throughout is that things that we would ordinarily consider acts
of war and if people did to us, we'd lose
our minds and we would be attacking somebody the next hour.
Russia has shown much more sober viewpoint on this, and
they have not taken action that would then precipitate an

(02:07:12):
expansion of the word directly into NATO. Too Many people
in the West, I think, say, because Russia never has
up to that point, then there's literally anything we can
do and there will be a catastrophic response. I'm not
sure that that's going to always be a safe bet,
because we just never know how far we can push
Russia until finally there is a redline beyond which they
won't And they're being pretty pretty aggressive on talking about

(02:07:34):
this one. But I don't know if even this would
result in it, because they would see it's not going
to change the outcome and they still have a path
to a military victory over Ukraine. So I would wager
that they probably would not start a war with us,
because then that would undo nearly everything that they have
done and put them into this massive fight. It would
be horrible for us because now then we would be
targets when we haven't been before, So it would be

(02:07:56):
stupid to the highest degree. But I would bet that
Russia is not going to start a war even if
we do this, But they may do something else indirectly,
like against our interest elsewhere in the world, which won't
be good.

Speaker 2 (02:08:06):
Well, and there always is at some point a straw
that will break the camel's back. So whether or not
this is going to do it or not, I guess
the most important point on this is giving the Tomahawk missiles,
whether you and I are operating them or they can
operate them on their own, is not going to help
them militarily. It's a pointless effort.

Speaker 5 (02:08:25):
That is my frustration. Why take the risk? Why find
out is this the redline beyond which they won't be
pushed or will they go past this one too? When
it won't change the outcome. It won't make Ukraine win,
it won't make Russia lose, but it will put us
at risk, and so then what is the point to
doing And by the way, we don't even have too
many of these our own. Why do I want to
dwindle down my own stockpile when we could really use

(02:08:48):
those if we get into a war, say with China
or Russia in the future, we need to hold onto those.

Speaker 2 (02:08:54):
Another outstanding point, which is pretty much the case with
all military hard where we're talking about. Daniel Davis Deep
Die Finding where you get your podcast? Retired Lieutenant Colonel
Daniel Davis. Great food for thought today. As always, A
love you man. We'll talk next Tuesday. Have a great week,
my pleasure. Have a good one, Brian, take care brother.
Come out eight forty two fifty five Krcity Talk Station.
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