55KRC Tuesday Show - Smitherman, Ken Blackwell, Andre Ewing, Breitbart, Deep Dive

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Five o five.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
At fifty five k r C the talk station Seriously
Happy Tuesday, vacation.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Idea, thank you. Joe Jecker summing up how I feel
this morning. Brian Thomas fishing, everybody got happy Tuesdays. I
typically start the program with got to try to make
it one anyway, it's gonna be interesting day to day
here in the fifty five KRC Morning show, Joe Warming,
he said, you got a full schedule tomorrow, which I
always like hearing, and then I come in and find out, Yeah,
I got a full schedule. It's some great guests lined up.

(00:51):
Christopher Smithman Volume two this morning, felt the need to
respond to some online attack he's been receiving, calling him
a Maga Republican, which based upon my exchange with Christopher yesterday,
this was after the show. Of course he does the
Monday Morning Spleen. Then is I guess in some way,

(01:13):
shape or form within the black community basically calling him
an uncle Tom. Christopher doesn't take real well to being
attacked in that light, and it's an undeserved attack anyway.
So Christopher, come on at six thirty in Ventis Spleen
Round two. I always look forward to having him on
the program, regardless of what day of the week it is.
Ken Blackwell Love Ken Blackwell seven oh five With Ken,

(01:37):
He's going to give a response. Mayor Aftab provols a
response sort of. Finally, Mayor Aftab Parvoll came out and
spoke or issued a statement about the brutal attacks in
downtown Cincinnati three am Saturday morning. It came out yesterday.
H how long does it take to issue a statement

(02:03):
condemning the attacks, which is really all he said. I mean,
you were going out on a limb to condemn the attacks.
It's like, oh my god. Well, you didn't expect him
to come out and like applaud the attacks, did you.
That's a question why you hung around and didn't do
anything until yesterday late. Anyway, we'll hear what Ken Blackwell
has to say about that. Vv Ramaswamy the establishment's worst

(02:26):
nightmare topic too. With Ken Blackwell wants to discuss briefly
the largest sex abuse website Bust. Apparently Feds were a
heart at work going out on the dark web and
they rounded up some of the most horrific child abusers
and child pornographers out there, which is just a great,
great thing for law enforcement, which I applaud. May they

(02:48):
all suffer miserably in prison, regularly suffer miserably in prison,
and then in the afterlife. Maybe I was above have
a double put aside for each and every one of them. Yeah,
it'll continue in the afterlife to the extent you believe

(03:10):
in one. If there is a hell, that's where they're going.
And he'll also comment to why Hillary Clinton should be
in jail. That should be fun Ken Blackwell seven oh
five follow by Andre Ewing. I am blown away by
this guy, former police officer, retired police officer, Andre Ewing.
If you know who I'm talking about. When I mentioned

(03:31):
his name, you know how fired up this guy is.
He is like the most passionate Baptist minister at the
front of a fired up congregation when it comes to
his topics. And I had an eye full yesterday. Joe
Strecker just told me about he was going to be
on the program, so I went over to Andre Ewing
e Wig. You search for them on Facebook, you'll know

(03:55):
exactly what I'm talking about. Just watch some of his videos. Boy,
he is absent, absolutely on fire about what's happening downtown.
He thinks city manager Long should be fired. He thinks
Mary I have to have fur a ball should be
voted out of office. He demands a change in administration.
He wants some reforms in the police department. He is
a profound critic of Police Chief Teresa Thiji. Says she

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never should have been a point of the job, which
is why he points the city Manager Cheryl Long and
says that she never should have appointed police Chief Thiji
because nobody in the police department apparently wanted her. Not
my words, I'm just boiling down the summon substance. What
andre Ewing's one of his brants anyway, and it was
kind of wild because he posts this rant about the
change in administration on the twenty fourth, and then the

(04:42):
day later is when we had this brutal attack in
downtown Cincinnati. So of course he went up with a
follow up basically, see I told you so. So he's
going to be on fire this morning at seven point thirty,
maybe out doing Christopher Smitheman yesterday's Smither event. We'll see

(05:03):
impressive guy andre Ewing inside scoop of bride Bart News.
It is Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
We do that.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
So this Tuesday we're gonna get Colin Maida and the
Tech editor he's been on multiple times. He will comment
on the brawl in Cincinnati that people found out via
social media, something that I thought rather interesting. Dan Horne
and Aaron Glenn from the Cincinnai Inquirer did kind of
what it appears to be an opinion piece about people
jumping to conclusions on social media. How the conservative outlets

(05:33):
posted the videos of that brawl the beat down I
should more properly call it in downtown Cincinnati and immediately
leapt to conclusions, Joe, is it unusual for people to
leap to conclusions online? Is that a shocking phenomenon? I
know it wasn't just conservative media, but that's the spin

(05:55):
that they put on it in the Cincinnati Enquirer. I
know it's shocked, shocking that they would put a spin
on an anti conservative spin on it, and shocking that
anyone would draw a jump to conclusions about anything they
see online. God, anyway, have more comments on that, maybe
a little bit. He'll talk about going back to Colin

(06:16):
may Dine at eight five Man in New York using
artificial intelligence to build bombs, and finally Teachers Union teaming
up with chat GPT and it being Tuesday that Daniel
Davis Deep Dive with the latest on Russia, Ukraine as
well as Israel and Gaza. It's interesting. It was on

(06:37):
Daniel Davis Deep Dive, his online podcast. He had me
as a guest. We talked for about forty five minutes.
We went through about five different topics, and it's amazing
when you have any comment whatsoever about Israel and Gaza,
how the speaking of drawing conclusions and come up with

(07:00):
accusations and things. It's amazing how many people on social
media will just immediately ignite almost like spontaneous human combustion
over the subject matter of Israel and Gaza and immediately
attack anybody who has a pro a leaning pro Israel
bent on anything. I guess I'm a Zionist or something.
I don't know, but several hundred comments and I doubt

(07:23):
he'll ever have me back on the Daniel Davis Deep
Time podcast. I'm gonna ask him about that when he
comes on. I alienate some of your followers there, Daniel. Anyway,
Rabbi ari Jin was on yesterday and he actually was
first on the fifty five case in the morning show
after I had Daniel Davis on for the deep dive
and Daniel Davis said some things that many of my

(07:44):
friends in the israel community, in the Jewish community found
not a necessarily offensive, but objectionable. Wow, a lightning rod
that subject is. So if you didn't hear Rabbi jun yesterday,
he talked about the protests on the Robling Bridge, how
the ultimate police involvement and arrest ended up taking away
from the point of the protest that wasn't supposed to

(08:08):
shut down the bridge. No one got the message ultimately
because well the protesters ended up invading the bridge and
shutting it down. That is a crime. Ergo, the law
enforcement officials came in. He just subjected to the Covington
police departments what he proceeded to be over zealous response.

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So anyway, that's what the podcast page is for if
you can't listen live all right, back over to the
developments from the riot in the street or the beatdown
in the street. Hamilin County Prosecutor County Pillach came out
yesterday talking about the brawl downtown, said her office is

(08:51):
going to prosecute the attackers and pursue the case, in
her word, aggressively. She did condemn the behavior called the
actions of those disgusting and deplorable. Quote on background, I
don't know people think about I don't know if people
think about punishment when they do most of these crimes.
But on the record, the behavior we witness is not

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that of rational human beings. It was disgusting and deplorable,
and we as a community need to speak up and
say this is not acceptable. This is not who Cincinnati is.
We are better than this. If there are other issues
in the community that led to this, I'm all for
being part of the solution. And I pause and I
think about that. If there are other issues in the

(09:35):
community that led to this, I'm all for being part
of the solution. Now step back and analyze that just briefly,
And I've made this point with regard to people randomly
driving by and unloading a firearm into a group of people,
not knowing or intending to hit anybody. I don't think

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how could you do a drive by into a group
of people and really anticipate hitting one specific target. You're
just shooting and spraying into the group. Are there issues
in the community that justify that, No, of course not.
How could you possibly say that someone spraying gunfire into
a random group of people could be connected with any
societal problem other than maybe a poor upbringing or something.

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But how do you I mean, if you're the person
with the gun in their hand, what is your motivation
for this? How are you drawing a line between your
anger or some societal problem in the community with shooting
guns into a random group of people. There is no

(10:41):
logical connection with that. There's no way you can rationalize
or justify the attempted murder with whatever problems you face
growing up. And I would say the same thing about
the people who beat the crap out of the folks
in downtown Cincinnati the other day, even if there was
a verbal altercation, which there apparently was, and apparently I

(11:03):
guess there's one video of the guy that got the
ultimate beatdown slapping. This is what started the altercation. It
was a slap or something, probably a bad idea. But
you're the guy next to the two people arguing, they

(11:24):
start a fight, and then you jump in and start
kicking the hell out of someone who's already on the ground,
and going back for a second and third slice of
the action. More violence, more kicking, more head stomping. The
man's down. Is that are you doing that as a
consequence of some issue in the community, Using the words

(11:47):
of Hamilton County prosecutor, kind of village, What the hell
is that all about? Did that man create an issue
in your community that justifies you beating him almost to death?
Not even considering the woman who got punched in the
face and not cold. Is she something? Is something going

(12:08):
on in the community that she's responsible for? No, of
course not. I mean, I can't say that definitively because
I don't know that woman or the guy that got
the crap beat out of him.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Maybe they're part of this, Maybe they are the root
of society's problems. Maybe the folks in downtown Sin Sin
I at three o'clock in the morning Saturday knew full
well that those two were responsible for these society's problems,
and therefore we're justificab we're worthy of the beatdown that
they received. I know it's preposterous anyway, the prosecutor urged them.

(12:49):
I'm just reading the words of Ali Hannard over at
Fox nineteen. Prosecutor also urged the community to speak up
and make it clear that such behavior will not be tolerated,
and that is really fundamentally what Andrea Ewing was all about.
He was screaming at his fellow African American black people.
You are embarrassing. That's what I asked Christopher about the

(13:13):
other day. I said, you know, if I was a
black person in the city of Cincinnati, I would be
horrified to lay witness that my fellow black brothers are
out there doing something like this. It's given me a
bad name. People are drawing conclusions about it, which was
the point of that op ed piece over in the
enquire by Dan Hornan Aaron Glenn. People immediately leapt to conclusions.

(13:34):
Now do we know it was racially motivated? No, I'm
sitting here this morning and I don't know if it
has any do with race nothing, but it certainly invites
the discussion. And we do see that the majority of
the folks that were issuing the beat down were African
American or black people, and the victims in this particular
case were white people. So yeah, it's bad optics. And

(13:57):
going back to my point, it doesn't make any sense
issue that kind of beat down under any circumstances whatsoever,
with the notable exception that the person that's getting the
beat down molested your child or your daughter or your wife,
that kind of thing, then I might be able to
applaud the beat down. There's no evidence of that and
those people having any connection with the people issuing the beatdown.

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Saturday morning, anyway, can't wait for Andre to join the
program to talk about that, and onload five one, three, seven,
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I'm feel free to chime in. You know, I'm one man.
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(15:40):
interesting observation. Dress Strecker obviously a very astute observer of things,
since a mayor did come out with a statement as
brief as it was issued it yesterday. I am outraged
by the vicious fight that occurred downtown. It is horrifying
to watch, and this is unacceptable and disgusting behavior here

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is intolerable in any part of our community. That's not
who we are as a city. Let me be clear,
Cincinnati is an inclusive city where all can come together
to enjoy major events in our urban core. I want
to thank our law enforcement for their thorough work both
to investigate this incident and to keep folks safe throughout
our city in this weekend. Jobs are that while Police

(16:26):
Chief Teresa Fiji and other some anyway other officials did
actually have a press statement, they invited people to be
there live in person. I have to have pervol issued
his statement on zoom. There was no Q and A
and he said it was kind of a blurred background.

(16:47):
You know when you do a zoom or a video
conference and you can blur the background so people don't
see your wife walking through or your dog or whatever.
I mean, we've all been down that road. So Joe
is kind of questioning out loud, do you think he's
even in town. I don't know that matters. I mean,
we you know, he's got the right to go out

(17:09):
of town. But just looking at that, and when he
made that statement, I was looking at the v Ramaswamy statement,
he said. I spoke to Holly earlier. The woman tragedy
was Sultans Cincinnati this week, single work of mom who
went to a friend's birthday party. It's unconsortable that we're
no police president in the area of Cincinnati on Friday night,
or even an ambulance to take her to the hospital.

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Hard working Americans shouldn't have to worry about or worry
for their safety when they have a good time in
our cities. Holly said. Not a single local or state
official had yet reached out as of early afternoon. This
was yesterday, wasn't it, Joe when he issued this statement? Yeah, huh,

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And yet Viva Ramaswamy did reach out. He's a good man.
He's gonna make a great governor. Five twenty five fifty
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except for what we're talking about, so I can dive
further into details of some of the additional statements regarding
the over the weekend beat down, for which there is
no excuse.

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T phones. You know, I just got it a real

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quick here. Before I jumped to the phones, I got
tom online. I'm glad to see that. As is tradition
is is thug a bad word? It's though it's not
on George Carlin's seven Dirty Words list. Your reason I ask,

(19:46):
I was look at it CPS reporting on it headlines.
JD Van says video of violent fight and said it
Cincinnati shows mob of lawless thugs headline, and that is
part of what said. But if you look over I
think is Fox nineteen Fox nineteen's reporting on it. Let

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me see here, I think it was. I was trying
to find I've got so many articles related to this subject.
But yeah, so over at Fox nineteen's reporting they do
the full Jdvans quote as well. I have seen the
full context. But what I saw as a mob of
lawless tea and then astisk they don't spell the word
thugs out. I didn't realize thug was something that needed

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to be deleted by way of actually like like an
FCC non compliant word, which is my perception of Fox
nineteen's reporting on this. Kind of weird, isn't it anyway?
Just an observation. Let's see what Tom's got to say. Tom,
thank you for bearing with me there as I was
trying to struggle with the reality of thug being something
that was worthy of being deleted.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
Go ahead, Well, it depends on whose subject.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
You know, Republicans saying it and they're referring to possibly
black people, then oh, it's a terrible word to use.
If it's uh, if it's a liberal and they're calling
Republicans jack booted thugs, oh it's perfectly funky. It's spell
out with all caps. So it's it's all relevant, Brian,

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to who's saying it and who they're saying it about.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
All right, And in the observation, I must interject, though,
there's been some suggestion some of the local news reporting
on this. Now, well, you know, the group of people
that were around the beat down and those involved in
the beatdown apparently were of mixed ethnicity, So we're not

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dealing with one specific group of ethnic people here. So
thugs in this particular case.

Speaker 10 (21:48):
We're not.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
But they obviously there are some black people included in
that group. So and since JAV did not take them
out and sort them out according to race, they have
to make.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Sure they do that.

Speaker 9 (22:01):
So Uh anyway, Uh yeah, again, it depends on who
says that, who they're talking about. And because we don't
want to offend anybody, and clearly our our astudent uh
prosecutor is his wanting to make sure she covers her
rear in and her statement about maybe there's some problem
in society.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Uh, you nailed it.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
What there's no problem in society that wards that that's
just I got to finally watch it yesterday, Uh, sit
down and watch the and and the extra clips that
have been at and said that there's no there's no
excuse for that. That's but and and these people who
are saying that's not who we are, Uh, well maybe
maybe it's turning into who we are and why are

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we turning into this? Why is this happening? And but
you know, I feel so much better now because the
mayor has released the statement, So it's all safe to
go back downtown.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
People, don't worry. Your mayor is on the job and he.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
Has released a statement and so you know, I have
no fear. Everything's fine. Nobody will be messing around anymore.
Because the mayor released a statement. I just feel so
much better about it. And and the thing in the
statement that got me. I don't know why this stood
out the most. They'll let me be clear. Comment Barack Obama.
Isn't that what he's famous for? These Democrats are absolutely ridiculous.

(23:21):
Please people don't vote Democrats.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Have a great day, Brian, you too.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Tom Thug definition a violent aggressive person, especially one who
is a criminal. Oxford Dictionary thug a violent aggressive person.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I think.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Isn't that definition? I mean, the literal definition of what
we were witnessing. No, we can't use that word. Someone
might be offended.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Anyway, they do get five people charged in in the
altercation so far. While investigating witnesses account videos posted online,
Police Chief Teresa Thiji said they were able to identify
I'm just account from WCPO props to Tailor Wheder, Molly
Shram and Sean Delancey, reporting five people so far been

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charged these you said, police anticipate more charges, calling for
people involved to turn themselves in. Quote it would be
in their best interest to come turn themselves in at
one of our police districts, at least any of the
ones that are remaining. She said the videos online do
not provide the full story. Didn't say what police believe

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led to the fight. She said anyone who placed their
hands on somebody in an attempt to cause harm will
face consequences. Shelsa said officers are looking into whether some
of the people involved were over served at local bars
or restaurants, saying it's clear alcohol played a part in
the fight. What hey, Joe, the music festival had nothing

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to do with the incident and alcohol may have been involved.
Now they're checking into seeing if some of the people
involved were overserved. How can you do that several days
after the incident. You're not going to know whether they
were drunk or not at the time of the beat down.
It's a little late. Blood alcohol content probably dropped. And

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how can you know it's clear that alcohol played a
part in the fight if you have not determined whether
some of the people involved were overserved or not. I mean,
that's just I mean, I'm just reading what's written. No,
there's no report of a toxicology being done, Joe, there's
no breathalyzer tests that have been reported. Nobody knows. I mean,

(25:52):
the reporters point out that they're looking into whether some
were overserved. They had a determinative concluded, they had concluded
definitively that some of the people involved in this were drunk.
I imagine it would have said that police have determined
that alcohol was in fact involved because some of the
people's toxicology reports indicate that they had a blood alcohol

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content exceeding point zero eight or something to that effect.
So how can you say it's clear alcohol played a
part and fight if you have not yet determined whether
anybody was overserved yet? Five point thirty seven, Fred, I
will take your call. I promise if you don't mind

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holding just for a moment, I'll be right back.

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Forty if afy five k CD talk station, Happy Tuesday,
Anderson Township. Former trustee Drew Pappis post just now asked
the media. Another attack downtown an isolated incident, but one
bad police reaction is an epidemic bias. Fred, thank you

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for holding. Welcome to the fifty five k morning show.

Speaker 8 (28:11):
Heay, good morning. First of all, I have to give
you praise. Could you saved me over like six thousand
dollars on my imaging all time. I have to give
you praise on that first.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
See you went to affordable imaging and you save that
kind of money.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
I say, that kind of money.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
That's awesome.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Actually, yeah it was. It was great. I was like,
I've been trying to get in to talk to you,
but anyway, real quick.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Fred, real quick, man, I'm sorry to interrupt you your
train of thought. Go ahead to tell what it does.
If affordable imaging also fixed your road. Oh yes, I know,
I know, I know, I know we go way back
on that one, and I know your road could repaved anyway, Fred,
go ahead.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
Man, okay, on your last caller and I got to do.
That's why I love listening to you in the morning,
because you try to correct people when they're when they
go off a little bit. And your last call I
like listening to him. He makes me laugh. But you know,
when he's talking about the thugs and not understanding what's
going on and he don't have the whole story, he

(29:16):
need to check what he's talking about first before he speaks,
because when he speaks, it makes him seem like he
don't understand what he's talking about, and you corrected him,
and I appreciate that very much. And listen, I'm not
a spokesman for the black communities, but the community that
I am, we dispute that violence for young people. We

(29:39):
believe the police get do a lot more. We want
more police. I want more police. You know, we're not
anti police. We want more police. We want our kids
to be home. We don't want our kids running the streets.
You don't listen all the stuff that's being talked about.
We already agree with one hundred percent with it. So

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I don't want people to think that like it's because
I'm black man. I'm not speaking for the black community.
For the community that I'm in, we do want the
same thing you want.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know, And I asked Christopher Smithman the very same question.
You know, if you pull people in the black community,
what is their perception of police elect Well, we would
like more, you know, we generally speaking, we want a
safe neighborhood. And we all understand some police or bad people.
And you pick any category of people, put them all
in one room. Some of the people in that room,

(30:30):
regardless of who they are, are going to be jerks.
And I could use an FCC non compliant word to
describe them. But there's a percentage of every population that's
going to fall into the category of a bad egg.
But because the police provides safety in the community, generally speaking,
it's their task, it's their job. Most people want them,
especially if you're in a violent community. And I appreciate

(30:50):
Fred you saying that out loud because more people should
step up and say it, and maybe then our elected
officials will make similar pronouncements and encourage and engage the
community to regularly repeat that mantra. No, we are not
against the police. We want law and order. Period.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Let me tell you one more thing. I'll stay in
Westwood and I've been staying. I think I'm bought this
house seven years ago, and I know at least four
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We're gonna start with submarine or AKA cribbage Mike. Always
a pleasure hearing from.

Speaker 13 (35:40):
You, Mike.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
Good morning, Brian Thomas. Are you today, sir?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I'm doing great. Next Wednesday, Weedhaman Breweries where our listener
lunch location is am I gonna run India on the calendar, sir. Fantastic,
So everybody's inviting its street. Yeah, I listen, man, I
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Weaedam and brewery next Wednesday. So what's on your mind today, Mike?

Speaker 8 (36:08):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 14 (36:09):
CPD has an official spokesperson that could deal with the
media a lot better than our current police chief has
been doing. You and the callers have done a great
job dissecting her comments about the fight and the ridiculous
of her statement where she quickly exonerated the jazz festival.

(36:29):
I guess I am part of the problem then, because
my grandson Parker and I were at the Reds game
on over this past weekend. So I guess we are
part because we were not exonerated by that idiotic statement
that she made so quickly with twenty four hours?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Was Parker overserved in the Dora?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
How old is that?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
You do?

Speaker 8 (36:50):
We sweated all out, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
He's like eight, isn't he?

Speaker 8 (36:55):
He's actually going to be ten.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I'm sorry to Parker. I apologize Parker for understanding your anyway.

Speaker 14 (37:01):
But prior to that on Friday, which obviously after what
we've just experienced, definitely you know, has gotten buried in
the weeds. Her and our dubious mayor, we're having a
press conference concerning the youth crime and all the guns
and stuff like that, and like anything else, if you
can't solve the problem, it's better to deflect it. So

(37:24):
they made the statement that it's because of those wascally
Republicans up in Columbus. Because of the relaxation of the
requirement to get concealed Carrie, to go to the training
and to get a permit, that's why so many more
teens or I'll say the words, so many thugs.

Speaker 13 (37:39):
Have guns now, okay, and last they.

Speaker 14 (37:43):
Never had them before, like they always went to the
training or as soon as they relaxed it, that's when
they started to get guns.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, And if a teenager went into a store to
buy a firearm, I don't think they'd be able to
get through the process because they're teenagers.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
He exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
There is still a law in the book for that, right.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
I believe it's twenty one for him.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, it happens to be. Yeah, Yeah, I appreciate it, Mike.
Next Wednesday, brother, we'll see if I can make it.
Five Jay, Welcome to the Morning Show. Always good to
hear from you.

Speaker 15 (38:17):
Hey, good morning, Brian.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Hey.

Speaker 15 (38:18):
The comment about you know, overserved and alcoholics clearly involved.
What that means is that the people in the video,
it's not their fault. Overserved means implies their victims. So
the real problem, the root cause. Don't worry about the video.
It's probably going to be the bartenders and the establishments

(38:40):
down there. Anything along with the statement and wherever came
out of the media that said no, no, no, no,
there was a it's a big mixed race group, not
just one. Just because somebody says it doesn't change what's
on that video. And I applied Christopher Smitherman yesterday for

(39:01):
stepping up and saying, yes, the NAACP could be the
bridge should step up. Are we to believe that the
gangs of teens in town is that also a mixed race?
If there's Asians and mix with white kids, mixed with
Black kids, mixed with Indian kids, and maybe Native Americans,
they're all running around as one big group until we

(39:23):
get to the truth and say something's going on and
there needs to be some help or some intervention, or
the people of that community need to step up, or
they needs to be law enforcement. Then we can continue
to do what liberals do, which is don't look here,
this isn't the problem. Or we could say, hey, let's
take another look at that thing. But right now they're

(39:44):
short on facts. So what do they always do? It's
not this isn't the problem. It's not a racial thing.
But if that was a black person and a black woman,
black men and black women that got beat down, they
would own, like I said yesterday, they would own the
victimhood and the NAACP and al Sharkon would already be
marching in the streets demanding justice and probably getting it. Well, yeah,

(40:08):
just because the media says that it's you know, hey,
it's it's there was a mixed I would love to
hear what Dad says again, did say there was a
mixed group of people in the crowd? Oh buy that
there's a mixed group of people in the city.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
Take a look at the video.

Speaker 16 (40:23):
The video doesn't lie.

Speaker 15 (40:25):
And for Teresa theeg you know, she sounded like a schoolmarm.
She sounded like a substitute teacher that would sit there
and wag her chubby finger at us kids in the class.
She didn't have one solution about what she was going
to do different. With the power given to her, with
with her her position of authority, all she can do
is wag her finger and say that this is unacceptable

(40:46):
and somehow bitch at the people of Cincinnati that it's
unacceptable that there was only one nine one one call.
You know what's unacceptable is there was no cops in
the area, and that's at her feet.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
Yeah, that's her responsibility.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
The extra troll shift ended at two am, and of
course this unfolded shortly after three am, so I guess
the cops have been pulled from the streets by that time.
But maybe we have. She stumbled upon a solution, Jay,
after we've already banned the red bikes and the motorized
scooters during certain hours of the night, maybe we just
need to get rid of the service of alcohol. Let's
just shut the bars down. Then we won't have any

(41:21):
alcohol related incidents happening, assuming alcohol was related, and that's
an assumption they haven't looked into yet. I appreciate it, Jay,
Mississippi James, no time for you right now, but if
you don't mind holding I'll be happy to get your
call right after the top of the hour news.

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Speaker 3 (41:47):
This is Joe Court Out. It's six o six six
fifty five kerr CD Talk Station. Happy Tuesday, Try to
make it so anyway. Bottom of the hour, Round two
for this week. Christopher Smitheman responding to some of the
criticisms been lovied against him, a little upset about being
labeled a Maga Republican. According to Christopher Smithman, that is

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parlance for uncle Tom. So it irked him. And he's
been called Uncle Tom many times. And he's always quick
to defend himself and a good job defending himself, he does. Callers,
just hold on one moment, Miss Sibby James and Drew
Pappas will be right with you. Ken Blackwell's joining the
program in one hour. He'll be responding to matter. Aftab
Provol's sort of response and lack thereof a little late

(42:30):
in the game aftab Provoll coming to the table. He
did issue a sort of nebulous I criticized or I'm
appalled by type response yesterday. We're not quite sure from
where it was a zoom statement or a video statement
online viveg Ramaswami. We'll talk with him about v vague
largest sex abuse website, bust and why Hillary should be

(42:50):
in jail those with Ken Blackwell in one hour, followed
by I'm looking forward to Andre Ewing being on the
pro in studio too. Former police officer retired. He is
an outspoken critic of Greater Cincinnati or the brother of
the Cincinnati administration. He's taken shots at the city manager,
mayor aftab pervall other elected officials, and of course has

(43:12):
very very profound comments and beliefs about policing in downtown
Cincinnati and what should be done versus what's actually going on.
He's got some really viral Facebook commentaries and they're fantastic.
So Andre. At seven thirty Inside Scoop with Bright Bart
News eight h five with tech editor Colin maynine on
the brawl in the City, National News It made many

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New York a man in New York using artificial intelligence
to build bombs, and teachers' unions teaming up with chat
GTP or GPT. Finally, the Daniel Davis Deep Dive at
eight thirty Latest on Russia, Ukraine and a topic that
apparently will get anybody in trouble when you talk with
Daniel Davis the situation between Israel and Gaza. Pivoting over

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to the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty
eight hundred and eight two to three talk order in
which they received Mississippi James, thanks for holding over the break,
my friend. It's always good to hear from Hippol's well
in your world.

Speaker 18 (44:07):
Hey, doctor Brian, I come in peace. I love everybody,
and there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I love your message.

Speaker 18 (44:15):
All right, So Cincinnati made national news.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yes, sir, the people down.

Speaker 18 (44:20):
Here in Mississippi aksing me. Is it safe for me
to come back up there? I say, boy, Mississippi acxing
is a safe to come to Cincinnati. I just say,
there's so much going on, so many moving parts, you know,
so you just hit your wagon to whichever one you

(44:42):
want to energize you. Sometime you down the hills, sometime
you get momentum. Yeah, I keep going going and try
to sort it out.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And I'll be the first to observe James that, you
know what, look at any city in the country on
any given day, you're gonna find something bad going on.
It's like yesterday, when I was talking, I got an
email from a guy in Davenport, Iowa. He said they
had a festival and a similar incident happened in Davenport, Iowa.
It's like peaceful Davenport, Iowa. Yeah, it can hit the
fan there as well.

Speaker 18 (45:13):
So I don't seem like what I can piece that
was almost an isolated accident. Seemed like a festival went
off decent and then whatever happened in that moment of
whatever is not clear yet, but uh, you know, people's
spread it up and winding it out and make it

(45:36):
cover so much so you have to be careful how
you describe it.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Yes, sir, absolutely, Let cooler heads prevail, James, let cooler
heads prevail. Always good to hear from you, my friend.
Look forward to having you back in time when you
make it. Let's pivot over to the phone. Former Anderson
Township trustee Drew Pappas. Always a pleasure to hear from you, sir.
Welcome to the morning show, Ryan.

Speaker 11 (46:00):
What a show you have lined up to they I
mean you you're probably going to stretch it to six hours.

Speaker 13 (46:04):
You have so much information post out there today, listen,
so many ways to go on this story.

Speaker 11 (46:12):
Out of Cincinnati is people are contacting me from all
over the country. Hey, Cincinnati's in the news, and you
know it's it's national news. Things pop out, I guess
the direction I want to go in, And a lot
of people lamant. They're saying, oh my god, everything's politics.
Why is this political? Why is this politics? You could

(46:35):
have seen this coming in a way.

Speaker 13 (46:37):
The incident, yes occur, you mentioned it yourself.

Speaker 11 (46:40):
Bad things happen in every community, right What what we
are questioning and what needs to be questioned is the
not necessarily the police response.

Speaker 13 (46:53):
Because the police can only do as they're directed by
their leadership, but the where how are they directed? How
many authors ron duty? You had three major events going
on downtown Cincinnati. What was the coverage?

Speaker 11 (47:06):
Single ninety signal ninety nine on Facebook has done a
remarkable job doing some digging. Unlike our local press, which
describes do you ever wonder why when there is a
incident like this?

Speaker 13 (47:19):
They describe it.

Speaker 11 (47:19):
The local press and national media say it's an isolated incident.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yes it is.

Speaker 13 (47:24):
But when one police officer has a either a bad.

Speaker 11 (47:27):
Reaction to a incident, a traffic stop, whatever, much like
might have happened in the Covington Bridge. That's that's an epidemic.
That's a police epidemic. We have an epidemic of police violence,
but not an isolated incident. Think of the millions of
police interactions every day in this country and one of
them is not described as an isolated incident. It just

(47:49):
yet another reason why the let starts crowing about defunding
or reimagining police.

Speaker 13 (47:56):
Do you ever wonder about that? Maybe that's political bias,
media bias. Yes, they think it is.

Speaker 8 (48:01):
They think it is.

Speaker 13 (48:03):
And you know, I'd like to say something else. You
mentioned mayor Aftab?

Speaker 11 (48:10):
Okay, how long did he wait before he issued some
well crafted probably I would say, uh, screened or at
least checked for results.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
You know, what is that poll checked?

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (48:25):
Statement out there?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
He read it through legal correct And I'd like to ask.

Speaker 13 (48:31):
One other question. You mentioned it as well, but I'm
going to ask it as well.

Speaker 11 (48:36):
Where is Aftab? I noticed I noticed you did a
zoom thing. Was is he is he on a you know,
a political junket?

Speaker 8 (48:45):
Is he is he lying?

Speaker 19 (48:46):
You know?

Speaker 11 (48:46):
It is the political season coming up? Is he meeting
somewhere with the power of the Democrat powers that be
that might.

Speaker 13 (48:51):
Be grooming him for the seems to be.

Speaker 11 (48:54):
Always has the eye on the next rung of the
ladder rather than the current step of the ladder that
he occupies. I so many questions, and as far as
it being political, this is what happens.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
Elections have consequences.

Speaker 11 (49:09):
You elect people that don't put police at the priority,
public safety as the priority. You could see this coming
down the road because what do we have. We have
week leadership, we have weak prosecutor. I'm not going to
say necessarily prosecute that remains to be seen, but seems

(49:31):
to be weak prosecutor that would rather be out protesting
than standing with police, protesting tesla dealerships.

Speaker 13 (49:38):
Remember that.

Speaker 20 (49:39):
And I would say also that you have judges, a
history now of judges doing just remarkably weak bonds, having
weak sentences, and not.

Speaker 13 (49:49):
Putting a priority on supporting the police.

Speaker 11 (49:52):
Did dare I mentioned how the police are treated in
some courtrooms here in Cincinnati. Yeah, I mean this is predictable, folks.
Elections have consequences. You might not like the fact that
this has gone political because it's a terrible incident.

Speaker 13 (50:08):
I saw they arrested five people. Would my question was
that five or five dozen.

Speaker 11 (50:13):
I just don't understand how you cannot make the very
clear connection. Sadly, this is political because elections have consequences,
and you know what, That's why many people don't want
to go downtown.

Speaker 13 (50:29):
That's why many.

Speaker 11 (50:30):
People have left downtown and moved out to the conservative run,
conservative led, largely Republican suburbs of Cincinnati where they were
where the local leadership puts public safety as the number
one priority and responsibility of any government. Like there you go,
like Anderson, like Anderson Township, like Anderson Township, like Green Township,

(50:56):
like Sycamore town I can mention you know all the
townships around Cincinnati that.

Speaker 21 (51:00):
Are largely largely conservative run, Republican run, where the number
one priority of any government, anytime you have anyone in office,
the first priority, the main priority is public safety.

Speaker 13 (51:14):
Everything else flows from that.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
It does.

Speaker 11 (51:16):
Shiny toys are great, Okay, street cars are great if
you can afford them.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
That stuff comes after the fact.

Speaker 13 (51:24):
Got to have public safety first. You've got to support
the police.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
The police have to know that they are supported by
their administration.

Speaker 13 (51:31):
They're not going to be second guests. You're not gonna
be micromanaged, You're not going to have someone looking over
their shoulder every second.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
Of the day.

Speaker 11 (51:37):
We need proactive rather than reactive policing. Need to get
back to that the broken window theory. And I mean,
I tell you this is predictable as the day is long.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Well you know what drew as you say that it
is predictable. Now what do we have as a guide Now?
I always make this argument when it comes to people
who embrace socialism. Every time it's been tried, it has
resulted in a catastrope topic failure of economies across this
great planet of ours. Every country has gone down that road.
Look see what happened over there. We shouldn't do that
because it doesn't work. We could do that with this

(52:11):
no defund the police. Look at Portland, look at Los Angeles,
look at San Francisco, look a look at all the
places where they pursued this sort of you know idea
that we need to rethink or reimagine police. In the
anthemath that aftermath that George Floyd and all the protests
about police departments being so racist, well okay, let's get
rid of the racist. But you know the idea of
getting rid of police is stupid, and we knew it

(52:34):
was stupid, and you know it's going to end up
in a bad way because we got all these cities
out there that have done this in advance of our
embracing the concept, and their cities have gone gone into
the toilet.

Speaker 13 (52:45):
I'd like to mention something else.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
I saw some I saw.

Speaker 11 (52:48):
I saw that Bernie Marino released a statement. I saw
the Vicar Ramaswami not only released the statement, he said
he spoke to the victim. I have yet to see
if aft have pur Ball has contacted any of the
victims as of.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yesterday, as yesterday yesterday.

Speaker 11 (53:02):
No, I'd like to ask another question, is Greg Lansman
getting another tattoo for the up and coming new spread
on the cover of the Cincinnati Inquiry.

Speaker 13 (53:10):
Is that where he's at.

Speaker 11 (53:11):
I'd yet to see him release a statement or even
have a statement, or see if anyone's contacted.

Speaker 13 (53:17):
Uh, But he is contacted the victims.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Yes.

Speaker 22 (53:20):
Do I go down the political road, Of course I do,
because as I said before, this is squarely and solely
the result of political choices elections made by the electorate
in this municipality, in this in this area and then
this one being Cincinnati, And as I said, elections have consequences,
and you are bearing the fruit of the rotten tree

(53:41):
that you planted in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Well, you know what you should be around at seven
point thirty when Andre Ewing joins the program in studio,
he shares your vision about a change of administration, and
he is will be he is not pulling any punches
on that concept.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
True. Well, it's time.

Speaker 11 (53:59):
It's I'm to talk for tough talk, straight talk. That's
what the people of Since today deserve. That's what the
people of Hamilton County deserve, South Ohio to southeast Ohio deserve.
Because I'll tell you what this needs to stop, and
we need to get serious and have some discussions. You
can build all the stadiums you want downtown, you can
put all the rest fancy restaurants you want downtown, but

(54:21):
without safety, without security, no one is going to go
take part in those in those activities.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
And that's sad, exactly. It's a profound point you make there, Drew,
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Speaker 3 (56:27):
Straight to the phones, assue when get both callers, and
we'll start with Jamie. Jamie, thanks for calling this morning,
Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 23 (56:33):
Thanks Brian, good morning. Of course, this is appalling what's
happened in Cincinnati, but unfortunately this is a pervasive attitude
in the schools as well, no discipline, no suspension, no
calling parents, and no calling parents to you know, help
get their kids under control. It's it's a toxic attitude

(56:55):
and unfortunately it's impacting our kids obviously.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Without qui ushi part of the you know, give a
trophy to everyone, just because we can't have any you know,
outstanding people being recognized for their outstanding achievement relative to
others who haven't reached that level of achievement. We're all equal,
we're all exactly the same, and we're all worthy of
a trophy. And no one is responsible for their bad behavior. Yeah,

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good point, Jamie, Bobby, Welcome to the program. Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Thanks for taking my call. My brother. Hey, Cincinnati is
still in the first congressional.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
District, isn't it last time I checked?

Speaker 5 (57:33):
Where's honest? Greg?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
At Craig Landsman.

Speaker 10 (57:39):
I guarantee you one thing. If it was a Jewish
man with a peach haired wife, there would be he
would you would hear.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
From me.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
A Jewish man with a peach haired wife.

Speaker 10 (57:51):
Yes, if they were the ones that were beat down,
you would hear from Greg. Why haven't we heard from
our representative?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
That's a good question. Why did it take mayor. I
have to have Purvoll two days to issue his statement
basically just generally condemning violence, which is brilliant, pretty easy
statement to embrace. Don't think anybody's gonna probably go ahead.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
He's probably been on the phone with the Justice Department
whole time.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
You cracked me up, Bobby, he cracked me up. Have
a great day, my friend, faith, family, flag, freedom, and
of course firearms. I'll sum up the tail end of
our regular conversations there, and we're going to get the
return to Christopher Smith and coming up next. Sure he's
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Speaker 3 (59:39):
Tix, thirty fifty five KRCD talk station and a very
happy Tuesday too. You're trying to make it so anyway,
always giving Christopher Smith and an opportunity to defend his
good name and reputation. He's always insightful and thoughtful. Former
Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati. Coming off the
heels of yesterday's Spleen event where you were on fire,
Welcome back, Christopher. Good to have you on the show today.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Oh thank you Brian for giving me a little bit
more time. And I've been listening to the show and
one of the things that always inspires me is, you know,
really the your listening audience being so dialed in and
on point, and I mean that, and so, like, first

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of all, I agree that I've been listening to a
lot of excuses over the last twenty four hours, like
this notion that people were overserved and therefore we're going
to go after bars and restaurants, and that then is
what caused the mayhem in downtown Cincinnati. We've been watching

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this kind of behavior, despicable behavior where young people and
young adults have been surrounding citizens that they've been walking
downtown and jumping them indiscriminately and knocking them out. And
so first the mayor knew this before he went to Cleveland,

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that this was happening. And then yeah, he's in Cleveland.
He was at a mayor's conference, hob nobby out of town,
and so he's been making phone calls and conference call Again,
it reminds me of the La mayor during the fires
where she went to Africa, right, and then she wondering,

(01:01:25):
why are you leaving the city in a time where
things are on fire. What I'm trying to continue to
articulate is the mayor knew that we were having problems
in downtown. This was one This was a weekend where
three or four events were happening at the same time.

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
He would think he would put.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
His political meeting on hold and stay here and do
his job. He didn't. He was out of town and
that's why he was disconnected and had continued to be
disconnected on what is going.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
On in the in the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
But then, but then you have political figures downtown saying
that the white male used the in words that's what
caused the mayhem. And so they're floating these these speculative
comments going, well, did you have you have that on video?

Speaker 8 (01:02:18):
There's a lot of stuff on video.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Do you have any of that on audio? No, I
don't have an artist. That's just what somebody told me.
I said, Now, why would you go out publicly as
an elected official and say something that outrageous. Here's most
likely what happened that there was an altercation between two men.
We don't know what that altercation was about, right, and

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you would think mono to mono they would be a fight,
maybe people could disagree, but not fifty people jumping on
one person, right, And to see the women that were
kicking that man in the head, not just the men,
but the women that were kicking that man in the
head that was attempting murder, right, And then when they

(01:03:02):
punch the woman in the face, the grown man who
punched the woman in the face. And you've heard the
Vice President of the United States now bring comment about that. Right,
How can anybody in their right mind, Brian Thomas, justify that,
Like there are people out here trying to make right
of something that is wrong. If I could call out
any African American leader in this town, and I would say,

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we must do a better job of policing ourselves. We
have to be able to as leaders say that was
just wrong and not leave this space out here in
the universe that in some way we can justify that
really bad behavior that we witnessed on the videotape. And
I think one of your callers said that we're watching

(01:03:48):
the video tape, we see what's happening. Why do people
keep trying to tell us to not believe our eyes
and our ears.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah, it's all legitimate points. Christopher mean everybody's looking for
an excuse. And that's that's going back to the point
that I've made, and I've made many times. If okay,
let's just say for the sake of discussion that you know,
you've got a lot of problems in your neighborhood, and
it's brought about because the white man's oppression or whatever.

(01:04:16):
How does going out into the world and beating the
living crap out of another human being that has no
connection with your world or your environment or your situation
do anything to better the situation. It's just only going
to bring about worse conditions, because you know, the ripple
effect of something like this is like it's happened in
other major cities with major crime problems, people leave, businesses

(01:04:41):
shut down, tax revenue dries up, exacerbating perhaps an already
bad situation brought about by whatever reason existed or exists.
It just makes matters worse. I mean absolutely, Sex thirty nine.
Ifift you have KCD talk station, I always enjoy talking
with Christopher Smithman and a second opportunity during st there

(01:05:04):
this morning right now, Christopher, I didn't mean to cut
you off. We had to take a quick break there,
so you had the floor. My friend.

Speaker 8 (01:05:13):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
This was a hate crime, and I want to be
very clear about that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
I'm an African American man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
People who are listening to this station who don't know
that this was a hate crime. These were African Americans
downtown who targeted white people. I have a video that
I just put up yesterday on my ex page where

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a white man looks like he's kind of walking over
to have a conversation. The person video taping says, oh, oh, oh, oh,
put him to sleep. Put him the sleep. They punched
him in the face. We're not even talking about that video.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, I know the one you're talking about. You know
that was racially motivated at least presumably so, because the
video camera is already rolling and then you got that
verbal cue. They it was a setup. I'm going to
record you engaging in. I think they call that the
knockout game, where you just walk up and randomly punch
a stranger and knock him out to the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
That's right. And then the person is a person on
the video that says, karma, karma, this is karma. And
then they say, don't come out at night. You shouldn't
be out here at night, right, And then and then
you see a black man dragging him. First of all,
a black woman kind of steps over him and kind
of brushes him with her feet. That was her way

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of saying, you're insignificant, you're nothing but trash. So then
a man then grabs the white man by his feet
and they drag him in the middle of the street.
And he's still he's still knocked out, and he doesn't
even know what the hell happened. Right then you see
then you see an African American man come to his
aid up. He helps them up, and you see him

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trying to provide some protection for him. That was a
absolute target by those African American citizens against that white
man because of his race. And so this this notion
that this wasn't a hate crime. And let me tell
you something, if this was reversed and I saw a
group of white people doing the same thing to black people,

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I would be on this station saying that was a
hate crime, meaning I would say I would be calling
a ball a ball and a striker strike. What is
so frustrating for me is that you have the Democrats
down there at City Hall, the nine of them, the
nine of his a council, and the mayor that keep
trying to make excuses for this bad behavior. They're talking

(01:07:48):
about Now it was alcohol, or somebody used the N word,
which now you know triggers like this was okay, this
was okay behavior, or this had nothing to do with
the music festival, all of these things that they keep
asserting that are not at the route that they do
not have control of crime in our city. Number one.

(01:08:11):
Number two, that this absolutely should be investigated as a
hate crime, and that there should be federal charges in
federal court, just like if this was reverse and there
were a group of white people that have surrounded black
people and beat the hell out of them in downtown Cincinnati.
And so that's why I liked that the Vice president

(01:08:32):
spoke out about it. We've got to be equal handed
with these things, and those people who engaged in the
most hateous part of this crime should be charged with
a hate crime and should be facing twenty years to
life in prison in federal court. Period.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Well, and I am on record, I'm not the guy
who believes there even should be a law for hate crime.
To me, if you commit an act of violence like this,
clearly there is hatred there. I mean it transcends race
and everything else. We've added on additional charges for actions
of violence which are already criminal, right because they involve race.

(01:09:15):
I mean, I you know, say what you want about it.
That's my take. That's just my take on it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:21):
The law.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
You're a lawyer, Brian, I'm not a lawyer. You're a lawyer,
so I understand what you're saying. You're saying. Listen, this
was a violent crime. It stands alone. Layered on top
of it, there could be a racial component to it
that could add more severity to the charges than the crimes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
And those laws are on the books. I'm not denying
they're not on the books. I just I always feel
like I need to interject my personal feelings about that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
No, No, I understand it. I'm saying, if if it's
good for the goose, is good for the gamers. We've
got to be able to call this stuff out because
if we don't, this is what is frustrating me about
African American leaders that are on city Council. I know,
if this was reversed, I know, if there were a

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group of white people who had surrounded some black people
downtown and beat the hell out of them, that we
would have people at the county level, the county commission level,
at the city council level, and the mayor's office would
all be demanding that the federal government coming here and
file all the criminal charges of assault that you're talking about.

(01:10:29):
But they would say, I want to add in on
the books that this was a hate crime. That's what
I want to be on the record saying, as one
leader who doesn't speak for the African American community, I
speak for myself who happens to be African American, that
this was a hate crime my eyes, what I heard,

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what I saw, the severity of the injuries of the
people that were attacked, we don't even know if they're
going to live, meaning, we don't know what the long
term implications are of what happened to the young lady Holly.
We now know her first name because the VEK spoke
to her and extended his support to her, But we

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don't know what her long term health impact is going
to be from being punched in the face and knocked
out and hitting the concrete the way she did. We
don't know what's going to happen to that white man
who is being kicked in the head his head was
a football that night, stumped down like that. I haven't
heard the leaders I'm talking about, whoever is held a
press conference really bring light to those human beings that

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were being dehumanized in the middle of the street like
they were animals. They were treated worse than dogs, the
way they were stumped down in the street. We've got
to have leadership that caused this craziness out. I wish
there were other African American leaders in this town that
would just stand up and say, not only was it

(01:11:54):
wrong right and call out the bad behavior, but say
it was a hate crime. And man that the federal
government coming here and press charges against everybody who people
who are videotaping it, I think that they are a
part of it. The people who are doing the kicking,
I think they were a part of it. And I
think we should confiscate all of their cell phones and

(01:12:15):
figure out who said what when and continue to charge everybody.
And I think, Brian, if we don't do that, this
is gonna happen again, Brian Talmins, and this time, and
this time it's gonna be me and you. We're just
walking downtown having dinner. We're gonna be surrounded and a
group of people are gonna think they could just take
away our rights and beat the hell out of us

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in the middle of the street. And by the way,
I'm on record telling you I'm not gonna take it.
I'm not that guy that you're gonna just surround and
beat and take. I'm gonna concealed carry I'm not gonna
take this kind of beatdown. Those people did not deserve it.
Those human beings did not deserve what was dished out
in downtown Cincinnati. And I'm tired of the mayor. I'm

(01:12:59):
tired of even I like Beiji. I'm tired of the
police chief. I'm tired of the city council worried about
the economics. They're worried about people coming downtown to the
music festival, coming to the restaurant. We've already determined we're
not going downtown. City leaders, you cannot keep us safe.
We're not coming down to any restaurants. I'm not going
to a ball gay. I'm not going to send my

(01:13:21):
precious daughter down there with her friends. I'm worried about
her being attacked. We've already established that what they should
be doing right now. Brian Thomas is saying, we're going
to make sure this never happens again by holding everybody
accountable to the fullest extent.

Speaker 13 (01:13:35):
Of the law.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Yeah, and you know, talk about reimagining the police. How
about reimagining police? Am I putting them on the streets
in critical times when lots and lots and lots of
people are enjoying multiple activities going on and enjoying the
Dora District late at night and congregating right there. We
all know where the folks are going to be gathered.
Let's put some cops on the streets there. And yet

(01:13:58):
you know you wait, wait till you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Hear nothing takes from that what you just said that
is so critical as a solution. Well, there was a
woman that came on. I gave Lincoln Ware an interview yesterday,
which has been very rare, but I gave him an
interview yesterday to talk about this that we got to
as our community called this out call a ball a

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ball and a strike a strike. One of the city employees,
her name is Irish Rowley, somebody who's done some good
work around the collaborative agreement, but clearly does not like
the police department. If you ask the command staff if
you ask the everyday police officer out there, do you
think Irish Roly supports you? Right now, we're not talking

(01:14:40):
about her calling out bad behavior. We're talking broadly. Well,
the mayor has hired her, the city manager has hired her.
I don't believe she should be on the air ever
talking about these matters without disclosing that she's being compensated
by the City of Cincinnati. But this is not a
person who has had a most recent history. If you

(01:15:02):
ask the FOP president, if you ask a police officer
officer out there, is this somebody that supports the police.
It's not somebody that does that. This is somebody that's
out here who is from what I heard yesterday, and
her commentary is justifying the behavior, the bad behavior as
a city employee. So such a bad look for the mayor,

(01:15:25):
such a bad look for the city manager to have
her out there being paid and really basically saying that
what happened to those white people is okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
They in other words, they deserve what they got.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Correct. That's from the mayor's office, that's from the city
manager's office. That's who they're hiring down there, and they
should be very cautious about keeping her off the radio
while we're trying to sort this thing out. Well, I
want people to know that her name is Irish Rollie,
and I just don't think she should be on the
air representing the mayor and the city manager acting as

(01:15:59):
if what happened to those white people in the middle
of our downtown was okay. Actually, also know that she
has a history of not supporting the police.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
That is well demonstrated. I know who you're talking about,
but let's face it, we have a free speech in
this world. And quite honestly, Christopher, I'm glad she came
out and was so brutally honest and saying she thinks
they deserve it, and that we know she is on
the mayor's staff. That's good. Now we have a perspective
on what the mayor's office perspective is and who he
surrounds him with. So that's good information to know, Christopher.

(01:16:29):
So thank you Lincoln Ware for having her on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Yes, let me and let me say, Brian, those weren't
her exact words, but it was the implication that in
some way, let's justify what has happened. I appreciate the time,
I appreciate the time. Brother, We're going to get to
the bottom of it, and let's look for charges federal crime,
federal court.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Always love him and you on, Christopher, God bless you.
We'll talk again, God bless you. Check often for what's developing.

Speaker 19 (01:17:00):
Developing out of the Middle East now right now it's developing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Fifty five JRC the Talk station to shy seven six

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Here fifty five KR City Talk Station. Looking forward to
this segment all morning. Always enjoy hearing from our favorite
Ken Blackwell. And he really needs no introduction from my
listening audience. Bye bye. Way of background, former mayor of
the City of Cincinnati, Ohio State Treasurer and High Secretary
of State. He's an activist, he's an author, and he's
with the American First Policy Institute as the chair of

(01:17:45):
the Center for Election Integrity. He is Ken Blackwell. Ken,
thank you so much for green to spend some time
with my listeners.

Speaker 13 (01:17:51):
And me this morning.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
Brian, it's always good to be with.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
You, always a pleasure having you on and right out
of the gate. Of course, you know what happened on
early Saturday morning here in the city of Cincinnati. The
beatdown experienced by two people we don't know what led
to the beatdown, But no one can justify it, and
it doesn't seem to be that many people are trying
to justify it, although some are how it could be justified.
I have no idea. No one is deserving of that

(01:18:16):
kind of treatment, most notably the woman who got punched
Kolcock right in the face by some guy. Your response,
your reaction, and I know you've digested mayor aftab provols
very late in the game, reaction to the incident. What's
your take on this, Ken Blackwell, what my take is
that the.

Speaker 16 (01:18:32):
First obligation of local governments is to provide safe neighborhoods
and safe streets. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist
to know that Cincinnati is experiencing arise in street crime.

(01:18:55):
Now there are those who would say, well, it's not
valent crime, but one o the things that you, you know,
if you've been around on the basis a little bit,
is that if you reward or ignore bad behavior, or
you're going to get this more bad behavior and the escalation.
So the first thing is that we we have to

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admit that we have a problem in terms of the
situation itself. You know, no matter how you explain if
it started out as a fight between two people, that
to fight between two people. But you know, unless you're
going to us not to believe our lie in eyes,

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what we what we saw was that what might have
started us a fight between two people escalated into a mob.
I can't a beatdown which can never be which can
never be justified. And the and the and the reality
is is that if you start to excuse this, uh,
it means that you you ignore the fact, uh that

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Cincinnati has a problem. And the first I mean local
leaders should inspire, hope, create the opportunity and bring people together.
And there's been a failure in bringing people together in
terms of respecting each other's human human dignity. We have

(01:20:24):
a challenge, and if we try to downsize it in
terms of how we define it and this define it,
the problem is just going to get worse. Well, as
I've told you on a number of casions, Brian, great

(01:20:44):
cities are not the products of great governments, but rather
the products of good people doing great things together. And
that's a challenge in Cincinnati right now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Well, and it seems to be driven at least over
the last i'd say maybe ten years or so the
politics of division. Everyone, you're divided. You're divided. You're not
in this group, you're not part of my group.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
I hate you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
You you must agree with me or you're not. I
mean that it's it's as if there is this concerted
effort and I'm going to point to the left hand
side of the ledger for stirring the pot of division.
It doesn't matter on what subject matter. LGBTQ plus division, division,
Donald Trump, evil Orange Man division, division, it's just division.
And then of course there's this racial element that it

(01:21:31):
stirred in there. Police are inherently racist. Division. You like
the police, then you're a racist. I mean, that's the
mantra we've been hearing now for a long time.

Speaker 16 (01:21:39):
Ken It's it's it's it's a real problem, and it
starts to reveal itself.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
And in numbers.

Speaker 16 (01:21:48):
I mean, there is a decline in our recruits of
folks to serve as officers or the piece of of
police officers on on our on our street. Uh, there
is a real declinent in the morale of those.

Speaker 8 (01:22:06):
Who are on board.

Speaker 9 (01:22:08):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:22:09):
How how many times can you here, you know, uh,
kill the pigs, you know, defund the police. Uh And
and time after time, you you watch a judicial system
that is divided. Half of the judges, you know, use
our apprehensions of criminals and our criminal justice system as

(01:22:32):
a revolving door uh mechanism. And and so folks are
arrested and put right back on a street, cause problems,
human misery, uh. And you and you only have half
of our judges that understand that it is in the
in keeping with their responsibility to provide safe streets and

(01:22:56):
safe neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
And that seems to be where the biggest breakdown is
and that results, you know, going back to law enforcement.
If the police on the streets are the ones that
you know, pick up the bad guys, whether they witness
the crime or not. They're there to find the suspects.
They present them to the prosecutor's office. And if you
have a zealous prosecutor, that only goes so far. If
they end up in front of a liberal judge, they're

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out on no bond. And then of course if they
get sentenced because they're convicted or and are a plea deal,
they're let out on the streets with little or no
penalty to pay. There's the bottom line. It's the judicial system.

Speaker 16 (01:23:30):
Right, and and and it has a compounding effect. You know,
I've worked with some of the nation's leading economic thinkers,
and one of the simple things that you understand as
a local leader that's concerned with the economic prosperity uh

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and the safety of your community is that capital seeks
the path of least distance and greatest opportunity. And capital
hates crime, yes, and so so what what happens is
that when you have lots of days ago left leaning,
stupid approach to crime fighting and and the creation of

(01:24:19):
safe communities, there's no way that you're going to get
the uh investment of capital uh to expand your economy,
create jobs, put your people uh to work uh. And
and as a consequence, you just see things, you know,
getting worse and worse, and populations. You know, when you

(01:24:43):
when you are at a time when you want to
just arrest the client and and and uh outward flow
of population, UH, you find yourself being uh stuck with
that that that sort of that sort of the client
that's you know, that's what's so distressing about people who

(01:25:05):
want to put on blinders and and not tell people
the challenge that we face when we see this sort
of the vision and destructive, destructive attitudes in play, you know,

(01:25:26):
bring inspire, hope, create opportunity, bring people together, and understand
the first responsibility of local government is to make sure
that the people are safe.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Amen, Ken Blackwell, you know, and I've been struggling to
understand why it is the city leaders. And this is
something that Christopher smithm brings up regularly when he comes
up my program, which is the deafening silence from the
council members as well as the mayor about supporting out
loud and advocating working with the police, not against them.
That flies in the face of the whole police are terrible,

(01:26:02):
defund the police movement. So that's a very far left attitude.
But they don't say anything. And I think one of
the reasons is because they're trying to downplay the reality
of crime in downtown Cincinnati for the reasons you point out.
If you talk about crime, then people are going to
get the perception of there's crime, and people are not
going to want to move into or otherwise invest in
the city of Cincinnati. But that just ignores the fact
that the crime is there.

Speaker 8 (01:26:23):
So stands yeah, and and and you make you try
to spin.

Speaker 16 (01:26:31):
When when people can see the sort of division and
sort of mob action that we experienced this past weekend. Yeah,
that that just creates a frustration of people who have
a capability.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
A movie, yes, sir, movie, movie or not considering. I
mean we've made national Actually, we had global headlines with this.
I mean I saw there's an article on there's violence
and the Hindu Times of all places, so Fox News headlines,
it's on CNN. Everybody's talking about it. You know, Dan Well,
Ken Blackwell that there's maybe a business or some person

(01:27:08):
out there that might have been considering Cincinnati as an
option for investment or to move and they looked at
that and it's like, no, I'm taking them off my list.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:27:19):
And right, I'm seventy seven years old. I've lived in
Cincinnati all my life. I've just I've been a homeowner,
a political leader, you know, you name it. But I
realize that people vote with their feet. We are highly mobile,

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and what happens is that your city becomes poor and poor,
smaller and smaller, you know, And that's the challenge of
local leadership. And they cannot forget the capital seeks the
path of least resistance and greatest opportunity and capital. Who

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hates crime?

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Well, it's pause. Bring Ken Ken Blackwell back got some
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Here fifty five K see the talk station Brian Thomas
with the incomparable Ken Blackwell commenting on some of the issues.
Of course, whenever the violence downtown you mentioned capital seeking
the path of least resistance. Ken, I couldn't agree with
you more on that, and someone who knows all about that,
A wildly successful entrepreneur and the next governor of the
state of Ohio. I understand you were as much of
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according to polling and everything else I can see. I've
talked to him many times. I've been impressed with him
since I interviewed him after he wrote Woke Incorporated. A
brilliant man he is. I think he's going to make
an outstanding governor. He seems to have great ideas your
comments on VV.

Speaker 16 (01:30:53):
Let me tell you, I've watched since he was a
high schooler at Saint Xavier only at it that we
couldn't get him over to a university.

Speaker 8 (01:31:03):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:31:06):
Yeah, Uh, he will make a great governor. And his
his his not only his worldview, but his understanding of
the basics is is phenomenal. You know, he and I
have talked on occasion in the past. Uh, a basic
understanding about the economic situation uh in Ohio.

Speaker 8 (01:31:28):
He he understands us.

Speaker 16 (01:31:30):
I've preached for a long time that if you tax something,
you get less of it. If you, you know, subsidize something.

Speaker 8 (01:31:36):
You get more of it.

Speaker 16 (01:31:37):
The problem in America and and and the challenge in
Ohio today is that we're taxing work savings investment. Uh
and and as a consequence, Uh, he understands the challenge.
And I think he has a set of proposals that
we will unleash uh the talent in Ohio get us

(01:31:58):
back on a on a path for rapid growth. And
I've been up on his response, uh and his comments
on this sort of division and the sort of the
crime that he saw on the streets of Cincinnati and uh.
I think he's he's well positioned as a fundamental understanding

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of how to put us on a accelerate track of
economic growth, prosperity, safety, uh and and and he has
a vision to to to make Ohio not just one
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in Florida, my job, you know that's coming.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
One of the things I'm really excited about as a
magnet for business and industry from the four corners of
the world. We can make Ohio the lead power generator
by greasing the skids and moving forward with the concept
that I've been pushing for now for years, embracing the
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the ways they can power make create massive amounts of power.
If you build it, they will come. And he is
all about that.

Speaker 8 (01:33:21):
Oh, he he really is.

Speaker 16 (01:33:24):
And one of the things I just I shad again.
He has to he has to inspire hope uh and
and and and he's and he's good that, you know.
He he has to make people feel that no one
is too small of an entity.

Speaker 8 (01:33:42):
To be part, not to be part of of of
this ohiw uh boom. Yeah, and and and so I.

Speaker 16 (01:33:52):
Tell people you know who who might think, you know,
that they're too small or uh they can't have impact
because they are individual. I tell them all the time, Brian,
you know, if you think you're too small to be effective,
you've never been in the dark and dark room with
a mosquito.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
That's good.

Speaker 16 (01:34:17):
Yeah, that that sort of inspiration I think is important.
But again, it starts with having a vision of Ohio
being not one of the best, but the best.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
The best, and that's what he is aspiring to bring
about for the state of Ohio. And you know, you
can't say enough about that man, at least as far
as you can't. You can't hear VVA speak and not
be enthused. He is one of those people that makes
you feel uplifted, like you do have a possible future,
like there is going to be something better down the road,
and I think he's the man to deliver on it.

(01:34:54):
I'm just going to encourage my listeners to follow you
on Facebook, Ken Blackwell. You make some outstad comments, You
do some terrific posts, stay on top of the issues,
and I wish I could talk with you for the
next three hours. But sadly, sadly are out of time.

Speaker 8 (01:35:08):
Ken.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
You know you are always welcome on my program. I
appreciate what you do each and every day. And God
bless you, sir.

Speaker 8 (01:35:14):
Right back gets you gotta bless you, Bry.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Take care, Ken Blackwell seven twenty five. Coming up next
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Speaker 13 (01:37:42):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
I spent a half hour or more yesterday on this
man's Facebook page. You should follow him on Facebook. Andrea
An Dre Andre Ewing for retired since St Police officer,
thirty years of service to our community. Proud of that
he is and he continues to advocate. He is the
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Death Row Ministries. Police Peace Officer Deactivation Specialist Andreying Man,
I am so pleased you came in to talk to
us this morning. It's a pleasure to have you in
the studio.

Speaker 19 (01:38:13):
Thank you, brother Brian. I appreciate it. I'm so glad
to be here. And I'm on fire. You are on fire, yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
And that's what was so cool about what you were saying,
speaking truth to power, passionate and your reaction to the
violence in the city of Cincinnati, which it sounds, I mean,
it's almost as if you knew it was coming because
you posted a video on the twenty fourth criticizing the administration.
You were at Police Chief threes of Thigi and you
know all about it because you're a police officer for

(01:38:41):
that period of time. Share along you went after the
mayor elected officials demanding a change in administration because clearly
we're on the wrong path. And then one day later,
look what happens in downtown Cincinnati. So you had a
nice follow up to that one. So let my listeners
know where you are on all this andre.

Speaker 19 (01:38:58):
Absolutely is discussed disgusting. Just listening to Chief Thiji's interview yesterday,
it was absolutely ridiculous. We are a nationwide joke right
now in Cincinnati, the issues of talking about you only
had two officers respond that was dispatched, that was in

(01:39:20):
the central business section. And she even said, over one
hundred thousand people and you're dispatching cars to a scene
where there's so many people and vehicles. But here here
we have around the country where people are getting ran over.
Why wasn't those streets just completely blocked off that there
were no vehicle traffic number one so the officers can

(01:39:44):
get there, and there was no officers on foot in
the area. Absolutely unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
It took us six minutes to get there, which you know,
in terms of response time, I don't know if that's
good or bad, but you're talking about a downtown CINCINNY
that's got three major events going on, and people don't
just pack up and go home at eleven pm when
the rock when the music stops, they head over the
door district and go into the bars. And so they're
going to be into the bars until the bars are
going to close. So you have obviously a lot of

(01:40:12):
people that are going to be pouring into that neighborhood.
You would expect it to be police all over, and
that's what you were advocating for on your on your
Facebook posts. How come there were police on the on
the corners of the street in an area where you knew,
damn well, there's going to be a whole bunch of people.

Speaker 19 (01:40:25):
My point exactly, why didn't you have police on every corner,
saturated to tell people welcome to Cincinnati, wave at people.
But no, why because administration did not allocate the proper
units downtown to deactivate things.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Like this or just to prevent them from happening by
their mere presence. Absolutely, yeah, and that you know the
police presence is so critical. Now, respond to this, and
I'm not really playing devil's advocate because I'm in full
agreement with your perception at what should have gone down.
But her response, Police Chief Fiji's response might be, well,
we're understaffed. They only had three officers at that moment

(01:41:08):
in time, at three o'clock in the morning that were
even available to respond. That's a pretty sizable area. And
of course with all those people there, clearly three officers
ain't gonna cut it exactly.

Speaker 19 (01:41:21):
So if you know you're gonna be understaffed prior to
then wouldn't you make the proper adjustments beforehand? We knew
a year out this event is coming to town, and
you see the things that are curring. But yet you
did not plan effectively and had no type of strategy.

(01:41:41):
So that should tell you once again leadership matters, and
in this case, leadership failed.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
And what do you have?

Speaker 19 (01:41:49):
Total chaos in the city of Cincinnati. I told them
before you must want got them city, And I've always
said on my post, who's next?

Speaker 13 (01:41:59):
Who's next?

Speaker 8 (01:42:00):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
But for the grace of God, go anybody that goes downtown.
And I know you had some really pointed comments and
warnings to my white friends out in the listening audience
about what they should prepare for and maybe shouldn't even
bother going downtown, because I think that's your choice as well.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
He said.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Major events like that, You're not going to get anywhere
near them.

Speaker 19 (01:42:20):
Absolutely not, absolutely not. We see what's going on even
locally and abroad nationwide, and if the police are not
setting things up for us to feel safe and secure,
and I walk into a situation and I see angry people,
I see situations happening, and I just want to come

(01:42:41):
out of an establishment and just walk down the street,
and I may have an altercation and the next thing
you know, me and my friends may get completely beat down.
And the narrative of being twisted, which is very interesting
that I've seen. If this was an entire all white
mob on a black person, it would be considered a hate.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
Crime from the get go, from the get go.

Speaker 19 (01:43:06):
But even Chief Thiji set there and said, this fight,
this fight, We do know who it is. Turn yourself in, no,
put these individuals on blast, name them by name, Let
the people in the community know this behavior is unacceptable.
So if it was actually disgusting to her, why are

(01:43:27):
you requesting they turn themselves in versus putting their picture
on TV and saying this is who it is and
we're coming to get you.

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We'll bring back Andre Outstanding seven thirty six right now,
If you've got cares to these auxiations. Stick around.

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Seven thirty nine coming up with seven forty fifty five
KRCD talk station Brian Thomas with the outstanding, outspoken Andrea Ewing.
Follow him on Facebook, check out his videos. He pulls
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Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Andre.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
You know, I apologize I didn't get a chance to
see your most recent post, but caption all in caps.
This makes me. City leaders calling in the Lincoln Ware
shows saying the white man got the action he deserved. Now,
I had heard that that some people said that this
was totally justifiable. And I don't know what led to
the ultimate melee and beat down of these people, but

(01:45:15):
I can't come up with a single action that could
justify that mob behavior. How could anybody suggest that that
man or the woman who got punched square in the
face deserved what they got.

Speaker 19 (01:45:26):
Exactly, There is no justification, period, zero justification. And when
you look at that and the comments that were called
in into the lincoln Ware Show, and you can read
the comments and people saying, yeah, that's what he get.
You bring the action, you get the action. And we
had literally leaders like David Whitehead, the leader of the NAACP,

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call in and it seemed as if he was being
motivated by the comments that were constantly going against Smitherman,
Colin Smith in a coon a sellout, and I'm sitting
there watching and I'm listening and I'm reading. I said,
this is disgusting that we have blacks that are saying

(01:46:11):
this is what you get. So that's why I also stated,
no wonder our young people are following suit, because if
our own leaders are saying this is how you handle business,
then don't say absolutely nothing to our children.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
You know, that's a really, really good point. And Christopher's
been on that theme for a long time. It's where
are our city leaders advocating to support the police, to
support nonviolence, to you know, engage in a positive relationship
with the police for the betterment of the communities. And
I've heard time and time again the vast majority of blacks,

(01:46:49):
if you talk to them individually, they want safe streets.
They don't have a problem with the police. In fact,
as illustrated by over the weekend, there aren't enough around.

Speaker 14 (01:46:58):
We need more.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
But the loud voice gets the attention, the squeaky wheel
gets the grease, and sadly, you know, the squeaky wheels.
Perhaps the president, current president of the NAACP's part of
the problem. I don't know, but they're the ones that
people tend to listen to. And that sounds like what
representatives of the black community are advocating for. And yeah,
that's going to rub off on children.

Speaker 19 (01:47:21):
Absolutely, absolutely think about this. Cheryl Long literally removed District five,
took it completely out of a community.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
But yet the.

Speaker 19 (01:47:31):
Mayor and the chief stand by and say safety is
our number one priority. And we see that Sarah Herringer,
she blew the rooftop off of a lot of issues
that the city was portraying and tested her own numbers
against theirs. And so if it's your top priority, and

(01:47:53):
now all of a sudden, you're saying, oh, we need
more police, but you took a police district out of
a community. Make it make sense, brother, Brian, please, I can't.

Speaker 13 (01:48:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
The only thing I can come up with, Andie is
they are so afraid of acknowledging that there's a crime
problem because it's bad press. It's gonna maybe make people considered.
I don't want to move to Cincinnati. But you, I mean,
you can't deny your I mean it's like, don't believe
you're lying eyes. People who live in the city know
there's a problem. I mean, the police know their problem

(01:48:26):
and the ignoring the problem, and I think it's really
probably driven by just the fact that we just don't
want to acknowledge it, to talk about it because it
just looks bad. Well, welcome to front page news across
the United States of America with what happened on Saturday morning.

Speaker 19 (01:48:40):
Absolutely one thousand percent. And police officers are frustrated. Oh yeah,
they are extremely frustrated because I know for a fact
that they do go out here and do their job
and deal with a lot of issues and a deactivate
as much as they can. They really do. But I've
been an advocate to always say I'm not here to

(01:49:03):
take sides. I'm here to save lives, and if my
fellow officers are doing something they shouldn't be doing, I've
always wanted to be an advocate to say, look, this
is what's right, and this is what's wrong. But when
I see it wrong and I see a community constantly
going against his self, murders on the ride, black on
black crimes, and these same civil leaders have nothing to say,

(01:49:29):
absolutely nothing. That's disgusting because we both know that the
multiple murders that occur are with on our black youth
and the murders in Cincinnati and no one is taking accountability.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
We'll bring back Andre for one more segment. Andre Ewing
before we get to the bright part. Insights scoop up
to the top of our news again. Check him out
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has to say. One more segment with Andrea Ewing. Pause,
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Seven forty seven. Here fifty five Parasevcalk Station, Bryan Towns
with Andre Ewing, retired police officer. Sure, and you're you're
like a community activist. You speak to the youth groups
and and and you know, I guess I'm just kind
of curious what you're doing in your your your in
the time you're not here in my studio talking to
my listeners.

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
Right.

Speaker 19 (01:51:14):
Just did something with the Urban League. It was powerful.
Oh yeah, the Urban Champions, and just had a great
encounter with some young youth and trying to promote and
show them there's a different way to go about situations.
And it's interesting everything that we told them to do.
What they saw downtown was exactly the example. We said,

(01:51:37):
this is what happens if you run to a fight,
If you go to a fight, if you present yourself
and had speakers there telling them to turn the other
way and to make sure that everyone is safe, everyone,
not just some.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Well, I appreciate your speaking to the young people. They
certainly need a clear and convincing voice like yours. But
speaking of change, and I said to you off air,
I said, you know what, Andre, You and I both
know it. Come November, the residents of the city of
Cincinnati have an opportunity to vote. And you know, the
definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and

(01:52:13):
over again and expecting a different result. But they're still
going to vote for the same clowns in office. And
you had advocated for a change in administration on your
one of your recent videos. What's your take on the
upcoming election in November? And do you think this is
an opportunity for change in the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 19 (01:52:27):
It's a perfect opportunity for change. It's interesting because if
this was a professional team and they went oh for twelve,
what do you do we want to go oh and
twelve again? We talk about the Bengals. If they would
have had the proper defense in place, guess what might
be talking about Super Bowl champs with the offense that

(01:52:48):
they had. But guess what they decided to get more
power impactful people on defense. So let's deal with the
truth of the matter. We are in a position to
make change. I would love to see the debate. Let
them go at it one on one, debate this thing
go right at the situation, and let's see who exactly

(01:53:12):
would be best for the position of mayor. Because at
this point, what we have seen and if you want
this to continue at this state, we are going to
be in a world of mess. And this is exactly
what we see and it should start from the top down.

(01:53:32):
And I've said it before, Teresa Thiji needs to go Yeah,
just go out. There's so many powerful candidates out there,
so many powerful candidates out there. She needs to resign,
leave at this moment and allow us to go out
and see if there are other individuals more qualified, more

(01:53:54):
experienced and understand city dynamics and are willing to work
with thee.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Well this police chief, Thesi, and I don't presume it,
but I presume that you do regularly speak with members
of law enforcement who are still actively with the police department.
I mean you got friends, right, you hear you talk
to them? How's it is there a sense that they
have any respect for leadership within the department.

Speaker 19 (01:54:18):
Zero leadership and that's a shame. And I had this
on one of my posts is where Sheryl Long was
going into uh several police districts with actually Scottie Johnson
and asked the police officers, who would you like to
see a chief? And at the time, the majority had

(01:54:41):
set back and said, well, Lisa Davis. Colonel Lisa Davis
said we would. We think she would be a great advocate.
She's a community person, she understands. And guess what, she
still picked Teresa Thiji. Now that's interesting because people did
not officers did not want her in the morale and

(01:55:02):
what you see and people being motivated started from the
top down and what Chryl Long decided to do without
listening to officers and the proper way to select the
chief of our city. And from these results, you are
seeing us getting blasted by individuals on podcasts across the

(01:55:25):
country talking about our city and how terrible it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Is, so low morale. And then I'm sure we of
course know about the low morale within the police department
because of the criminal justice system generally speaking, why bother
arresting the kid for breaking curfew when there is going
to be nothing at all, zero done to.

Speaker 19 (01:55:42):
Them, Absolutely zero, nothing will happen. Usually, if we even
take someone to twenty twenty at juvenile, we're calling their
parents on the way, make sure you come get your child.
As soon as they come in, they're walking straight out.
And these kids understand the system that they can take
it to the whole next level and then say, well,

(01:56:03):
when I turn eighteen, I'll just get my record expongs.
Absolutely ridiculous. Gun laws need to be increased, that we're
not playing if you get caught with a gun, we're
not playing games with you. We're gonna hold you accountable.
You will do some time, You will do some time.
So these judges need to step it up and stop

(01:56:24):
playing games.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
Yeah, that's always very puzzling to me, because you know,
if after Purvol had his way, he would take away
everyone's guns. And that's not your position, because you had
advocated on one of your posts that we should be armed.
You know, you go to the rains train, learn how
to properly use it. You know, you know, if you
as long as you're lawfully able to carry a firearm,

(01:56:46):
you probably should because that way you can defend yourself.

Speaker 19 (01:56:50):
And that's just the society we live in today. But
now what is the perception of defending yourself. That's why
I said, when you were downtown in this circumstance, and
if somebody had a firearm and started to just let off,
we would have at least twenty to twenty five people

(01:57:11):
dead and more critically injured based on this situation while
people were armed, and I bet you there were people
that were armed that maybe just didn't pull their weapon
at the time. But during that beat down, would someone
had been justified to pull in and try to save
the gentleman who was getting mobbed against, who was getting

(01:57:33):
attacked and kicked brutally and savagely. He could be a
damage for life, brain damage he was in. The woman
savagely was struck. So if somebody would have put out
a gun and started firing, would they have been wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
No, they wouldn't you know what I'm thinking of? The
guy who saved maybe multiple lives a that Walmart up
was Milwaukee. The guy who was stabbing, he stabbed a
loving people and long comes a marine with a fire
that didn't put the guy down, but stopped the violence
from happening. If you have reasonable and eminent apprehension of
grievous bodily harm that guy was suffering from grievous bodily

(01:58:10):
harm at the time, or you have a legitimate, reasonable
fear for your own life, you're allowed to use deadly force.
So and I talked with the FOP president just the
other day about that. He agreed with me completely. Absolutely
use of a firearm order those circumstances would have been justified.

Speaker 19 (01:58:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
When people are freaked out, they think some left wing
prosecutor is going to go after them for defending their
lives or defending the lives of others. So there creates
that reluctance in society because they think they're going to
be the ones prosecuted, not the person given the beatdown.

Speaker 19 (01:58:40):
Now, this is interesting. I want to ask you some brother, Brian.
When there's a UFC cage fight, they have a ref
right there in the middle. Once this ref sees it's
out of control and that person may even remotely lose consciously,
they step in.

Speaker 8 (01:58:58):
That's it.

Speaker 19 (01:58:58):
It's over. You don't continue to go because why they
understand the issues that continue to happen. Well, guess what,
there was no referee down here, and we continue to
see beat down, another's hiding a face, another kicking a face,
another jab in a faith. It was consistent with beyond

(01:59:20):
almost aggravated assault, and they should be prosecuted to the
highest level.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Andre Ewing, you know what, someday I want to be
interviewing you as candidate for office. You run for council
or maybe run for mayor or something like that. I
think you get a lot of votes.

Speaker 19 (01:59:36):
Man, Yes sir, Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
What you consider that you got to gleam in your eye.
Maybe you have been considering it. It's not too late, yes, sir,
it's not too late. Yes, sir, you always have an
opportunity here on the fifty five Caro Scening Morning Show.
I love your message, I love your passion. I know
you care about the city, you care about our youth,
and you know there's a better direction, the better path.
Maybe we'll all wake up in the city and find
that path in November.

Speaker 19 (01:59:58):
Yes, sir, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
It's been fun.

Speaker 19 (02:00:00):
It's been awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
You come back again.

Speaker 19 (02:00:02):
Probably all about the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
It is seven fifty six right now, fifty five KRCD
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Deep Dive at eight thirty. I hope you can stick
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Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
Continuing the lineup of.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Guests that I'm enjoying this morning, the return of tech
editor Colin Maidine, tech editor for Bright Bart. You can
find them online. As I always start out the segment
B R E I T B A R T Breitbart
dot Com. It's time for the inside scoop. Welcome back,
Colin Madine. It's always a pleasure talker with you, my friend.

Speaker 5 (02:01:00):
Happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
Well, you know, we're in trouble here in the city
of Cincinnati, and when we make national headlines for what
happened over the weekend, including the brawl, be the beatdown,
I should more properly refer to it. It's covered on
Breitbart as well. I mean, I'm not sure if you
know a whole lot about Colin, but I did see
that Breitbart covered the situation as well. What's your take
on our problem here in the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 10 (02:01:23):
Well, I'm absolutely aware of it. You know, first of all,
I'm a Columbus native, and so I'd be in Cincinnati
anytime I wanted to see decent sports teams as opposed
to Cleveland.

Speaker 8 (02:01:33):
Right, It's great, So.

Speaker 10 (02:01:35):
You know, I did watch it carefully. My first reaction
is something you've already touched on. A lot of the
media is covering this as a brawl or a fight.
All I saw was a beatdown, you know, people getting
a mudhole stumped in them. Basically, what I really keyed
in on as tech editor is your police chief went

(02:01:56):
out there blaming social media and the media or this,
you know, spreading virally and this being the national news
about Cincinnati as opposed to something good, right, which we
would all hope for, but usually isn't the case. My
view is when you look at incidents that go viral,

(02:02:19):
it can go two ways. There are incidents that are
caused by social media and made worse, and then there's influence.
There's incidents that happen and then go viral because they
have all the right ingredients to go viral. So I
don't view this as something caused by social media. When
I think of things caused by social media, I'm thinking

(02:02:39):
of TikTok making teenagers do stupid things, whether it's eating
tide pods or destroying their schools, yep, to get viral.

Speaker 5 (02:02:48):
That's not what happened here.

Speaker 10 (02:02:49):
What happened here is this terrible incident, probably alcohol fuels,
and it much like the Coldplay concerts CEO that wasn't
caused by social media, but it had all the ingredients
to then go viral. You know, there's a lot of
people and the reason they go to social.

Speaker 5 (02:03:08):
Media is to see knockouts. And despite whatever you want to.

Speaker 10 (02:03:12):
Call it, brawl, attack, beat down, you know had these
brutal knockdowns, right, and yes, you have a crowd at
last I saw the crowd.

Speaker 5 (02:03:21):
Is estimated at one hundred people that was standing around
filming it.

Speaker 10 (02:03:25):
Many of those people hope to have the video that
goes viral because they think they're famous. They want that
attention for one minute or ten minutes or fifteen minutes
of fame like Americans used to hope for. Yeah, but
you know, I disagree with your police chief out there
saying it's the fault of social media and it's the

(02:03:46):
fault of the media for covering it. You have a
much deeper problem that's being portrayed in that video.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
Without question, I think, you know, it becomes a social
media phenomenon, most notably these these these knockdowns. He's you know,
random indiscriminate punching of people that really even when there's
no altercation. We even had one of those that same
roughly the same period of time on Saturday morning. It's
you can hear the guy that's recording the video, it's

(02:04:15):
sort of just waiting for this knockdown to happen. It
was a setup. He was ready to record it. When
it happened, and out of nowhere, this guy just Cole Cox,
this innocent person who is just standing there and he
gets knocked to the ground and then the guy drags
him out in the middle of the street. People can't
believe their own eyes and they see that, and that's
why it becomes clickbait. It's like, oh my god, this

(02:04:36):
is like societal breakdown kind of stuff. I can't believe
what I'm watching, and then somebody else wants to do it,
so they become the next viral sensation.

Speaker 10 (02:04:46):
Absolutely, and you know there's other people out there saying,
you know, the race aspect is why this went viral,
that's not the reality we live in. Either the fight
and the attack is it really gets people, exactly to
your point, to just click on things, because you know,
we see these types of videos going viral all the time,

(02:05:09):
and it can be you know, it can be all
it can be black on black. We see that with
Carnival Cruises, who had to basically go through a marketing
crisis because all these videos of fights on cruise ships
certainly certainly large groups of white people do the same thing.
It's not, you know, from my perspective, it's that's not why.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
I win viral?

Speaker 8 (02:05:31):
Whyo win viral?

Speaker 10 (02:05:32):
Was you had this large group of people. I think
there was one nine to one one call according to
what exactly? Because you get that it's essentially a mini riot,
one might say, right, it's the behavior that humans is
not I'm going to try to stop this because there'll
be the next person beat down. Instead, it's I'm going

(02:05:54):
to try to get famous off this, because whether you're
a social media expert or not, every one has some
concept of what's going to go viral these days.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
Yeah, you're right, and you know it's it's something that
I just can't get my head around, Colin, because Okay,
I'm going to be sixty in September. Maybe it's my age,
but my first reaction is never to grab my phone
and start taking pictures of something. I mean, even at
family events, birthday parties. I just don't think about it,
and so I wouldn't have. I don't think I would
have pulled my phone out if I was downtown when

(02:06:24):
that was going on to record it. It just doesn't
enter my mind. But that's not modern society, and that's
certainly not the default position for seemingly most people these days.

Speaker 5 (02:06:36):
Well, Brian, in your defense, it's not just an age thing.

Speaker 10 (02:06:38):
Yes, Certainly older people, you know, as you get into
the boomer generation, they don't have that instinct. I'm a
tech editor gen X in my forties and I struggle
with that too. We have a fox who runs around
our neighborhood all day. I saw them and I had
to like comically funk with my phone right for the

(02:07:01):
right camera. But there's you know, millions upon millions.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
Of people who are like quick draw artists, right, like.

Speaker 10 (02:07:08):
Gunslingers with their phone and they're filming Hollywood style angles
and lighting on the fly because that and some of
that is because you know, we have whole generations that
are digital natives, people who were born.

Speaker 5 (02:07:22):
With social media essentially.

Speaker 10 (02:07:24):
Yeah, or in the you know, in YouTube, and part
of it is, you know, it's that struggle of we
have people who just they're not thinking the way we
would associate with traditional American thinking and values, which is
if they see something like that and that's not fisticuffs, right,

(02:07:45):
you have people getting knocked out, possibly brain damage. I
don't know the condition of those poor people this morning,
but you know that's not a fight, that's a that's
a life threatening situation without question.

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
Well, you mentioned thinking and critical thinking I think has
been important aspect of my life and thank god I
have critical thinking. It served me well in my practice
of law. But that's the environment I was raised in,
you know, the Socratic method. But pivoting over to artificial intelligence,
I see the Teachers Union are teaming up with Microsoft
and others thanks to a twenty three million dollar investment

(02:08:19):
by Microsoft, Open AI and Anthropic to incorporate artificial intelligence
into the classroom. And my concern about that is the
default position for most is I'm not going to engage
my own thought processes. I'm just going to turn to chat,
GPT or some other AI inspired to get the answer
to whatever question that's presented in front of me and
just regurgitate something without thinking about it. This is a

(02:08:41):
dangerous step, I believe, Colin. What's your take on this direction?

Speaker 10 (02:08:45):
It is a dangerous step because what you just said, Brian,
once again, you're kind of ahead.

Speaker 5 (02:08:49):
Of the curve.

Speaker 10 (02:08:51):
It's not just conjecture, It's not just g These people
aren't thinking. MIT has done an actual study and in
the short version of their resulted chet GPT wrotes your brain.
They do brain studies, and people's brains are not firing
in the same way when they go to a tool
and get an answer.

Speaker 5 (02:09:12):
So, you know, the thing that I.

Speaker 10 (02:09:15):
Find very curious about that deal where teachers and teachers
unions want to incorporate the AI into the classroom is
for you know, decades, you could talk to the most
ardent leftist teacher and they would have a very similar
opinion of Wikipedia that I do because Wikipedia is, you know,
a horror show. It's filled with biased, insane, crazy opinions

(02:09:39):
from the furthest left people. But teachers hated it because
students would go to Wikipedia a copy and paste and
turn it in as their research homework. They would say,
you didn't do your work, you know, how dare you
go to Wikipedia. Those same teachers today are saying, go
to chech gpt and start, you know, and get some
answers from them.

Speaker 5 (02:09:57):
It's the exact same problem.

Speaker 10 (02:09:59):
You're not learning anything as someone who works day in
and day out with with writing. The startling thing is
when people use chet GPT or any AI tool to
generate some written words, they almost never read them. We
know that because people will publish things or write letters

(02:10:20):
and they have like horrible mistakes in them or it
does this was written by chat GPT. They don't even
bother to read it to remove that colin.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
Yeah, this is a topic that is so near and
dear to my heart because there have been any number
of articles written about idiot lawyers who rely on chat GPT,
which whole cloth makes up case law that does not exist.
They don't go bother and check their work to see
if there actually is the case there they just recited
and presented to the court. I mean, talk about malpractice

(02:10:53):
that Yeah, I love.

Speaker 5 (02:10:54):
Covering that at Brighte Bartech. And you know you're a lawyer.
I'm not a lawyer, but you know, no lawyer.

Speaker 10 (02:11:02):
Wants to make a judge really angry, right, I mean
that's rule number one. Can you imagine how angry the
judges when they realize and this is not one case
that's happened many times Anthropics, which is an AI giant,
their own lawyer fell for this where they, you know,
filed things with a judge full of fake case citations.

(02:11:23):
So it's brutal, and but that's that's what's happening. So
you know, for all the parents and grandparents out there,
you should punish your kids for using AI because literally
they're not going to think, they're not going to learn,
and they're going to publish wrong information.

Speaker 3 (02:11:41):
Yeah, you talk about and even if the information is accurate,
the concept of creating a sentence on your own, it's
going to be a lost art. It's going to be
done for you, you know, the using verbs correctly, announced
correctly and understanding how to construct this sentence is just
that does it for you. I mean there's just no
thought process involved, and I find that it's frightening. And

(02:12:03):
then the other component of this is and a couple
of corollary stories you have on Breitbart b R E
I T b A r T dot com, book market,
we got this guy in New York that used artificial
intelligence to build bombs and he planned on detonating Manhattan.
And another article you guys posted about chat GPT gave
instructions on worshiping molac with blood sacrifices and encouraged somebody

(02:12:26):
to cut their wrists with sterile or very clean razor blade.
This stuff is downright dangerous.

Speaker 10 (02:12:34):
It's dangerous, Brian, and you know the problem is it
leads people down rabbit holes. There's a term that's been
coined called check GPT induced psychosis because people.

Speaker 5 (02:12:48):
Kind of go crazy.

Speaker 10 (02:12:51):
AI has this very dangerous trend of always telling you
you're right, always telling you your a genius, and when
you start to respond, you know, in an engaged manner
on a particular topic, it just feeds you more and more.

Speaker 5 (02:13:08):
So to your point, you know, this guy wanted to
build bombs.

Speaker 10 (02:13:12):
And AI tools taught him better bombs to build his quote,
he told the cops, this is way easier than buying
gunpowder to make bombs, because it told me just some
household chemicals. Like he was thrilled because it helped them
make this plan. Luckily, one accidentally went off and scared him,
so he ended up turning himself in. But you know,

(02:13:33):
whether it's worshiping the devil, which is the other case
you talked about, or you know, we had an article
a couple of weeks ago, just some guy. He's autistic,
you know, so he has some challenges.

Speaker 5 (02:13:46):
He thought he has.

Speaker 10 (02:13:49):
Scientific breakthrough on time travel, chats APT contends him. He's correct,
he's the next Einstein.

Speaker 13 (02:13:56):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:13:56):
It sent him down this whole warm hole. And it's
the mental health effects are almost as Dad is, like
the false information that in lack of thinking.

Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
Everyone wants a pat on the back, and everyone wants
to be encouraged and told that they're right. And when
you can steer someone down a dangerous path because they
happen to be on it already, it's just going to
make a bad situation worse. Colin made I. It's always
great having you want to continue to encourage my listeners
to book Breitbart dot com and check out the wonderful
reporting that you guys do. And you're always ahead of
the game on what starts out to be an alleged

(02:14:30):
conspiracy theory actually turns out to be right, and normally
you can find out what's right in advance by reading Breitbart. Colin,
look forward to having you back on real soon. Keep
up the great work and say hello to the rest
of the team for me.

Speaker 5 (02:14:42):
Appreciate it, Brian, keep going.

Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
Thanks brother, Take care. It's eight twenty. We got the
Insights Scoop with Daniel Davis latest on Russia, Ukraine and
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(02:16:31):
Corey Bowman that does not contain the words brother of
Vice President JD.

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Vance?

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Every single time the man's mansioned he's running from Mary
of the city. Since saying he's not JD. Vance, he's
his half brother. He's got no connection with the guy
other than a blood relationship, and he has his own
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has no impact on national policy. He's just an advocate
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(02:16:58):
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pay attention when you're reading. You can see this stuff.
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Well we do.

Speaker 26 (02:19:05):
But you know that people what do they call it?
Hate watching? Sometimes they just love to do that. But
it was great to have you on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
Well, I enjoyed it. I mean we talked about four
or five different subject matters. But boy, I guess I
really stepped in it when I had comments about Israel
and no expert on you know, Israel, It's history or
anything else. Just I'm just aware of what's in the
news of late. But apparently that that was what hit
a nerve. But I guess I'm used to that. You
always hit a nerve with someone when you're talking about

(02:19:32):
the deteriorating situation there between Israel, Gaza, and of course
the terrorist organization. Yeah, and of course I have this
when you and I talk about Israel.

Speaker 26 (02:19:41):
I think you've told me You've had some of the
folks not lacking what I've said either, So I guess
you just can't win on that.

Speaker 8 (02:19:46):
You can't. It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:19:48):
That's the fact it really is. And people have some
very very very deep seated feelings about that. But before
we talk about that, let's get the latest on rushing
Ukraine another day. Know the same old, same old, it seems,
you know. Don Trump it seems like he's pulling the
plug on even trying anymore. Tries to sit down with
Vladimir Putin, tries to get Putin to negotiate. But as
you and I have observed and talked about regularly, Vladimir

(02:20:09):
Putin's got his list of demands, he's not wavering from them.
And so you end a discussion with nobody conceding to
anything that he wants. You're not going to get a
settlement and then the bombs and the drone start flying again.

Speaker 26 (02:20:21):
Well yeah, and you know what, I honestly find the
whole episode puzzling. I mean, let's go back to when
the fifty day deadline was set. I thought that was
kind of odd because I didn't understand what was fifty
days tied to. Why would you say, all right, we've
already gone six months to the Trump administration, Why another
fifty days? And why would that be any different? And

(02:20:41):
then why did it go from fifty to now ten
or a dozen something like that. But still we had
the same thing lumin out that we did when that
first fifty day deadline was set. What is going to
happen if he tries to impose those secondary sanctions on
Russia and the primer issues, not what they do to Russia,
because Russia is basically sanctioned proof ready, it's the secondary
sections that they slap the terrafs on China, India, Brazil

(02:21:05):
and anyone else. They say, who does business with Russia
with uh pydriccarbons, et cetera. I don't know that you're
going to succeed if you're going to try to get
our you know, our friend India to say don't buy
Russian oil or it's gonna you know, get it from
somewhere else Where else are you going to get it?
And then, of course we have the issue with China.

(02:21:25):
We're we're still in a trade issue with them. And
if you slap another one hundred percent, I mean that
it hurt us last time when we had one hundred
and forty five percent. So I just don't see how
this is going to help our case much less hurt Russia.

Speaker 3 (02:21:38):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. As as we enter
into more thoughtful and I guess deep trade negotiations on
tariffs with China, in our negotiation process with them process
with them, these secondary tariffs, I think this is going
to blow that up. I would imagine China's not going
to stand for it in a discussion.

Speaker 26 (02:21:55):
Well, I mean, because you're you've spent so many months
and so much you know, political capital trying to come
up to some kind of a mutually acceptable financial deal
and apparently there are making some progress. Yeah, but you
task something like this on top, it'll literally blow up
everything you've been doing and set us back, you know,
several months, and that's just not going to be good.

Speaker 3 (02:22:15):
For American consumers or business. Well, let me ask you
get your reaction to this, because my first reaction was
this is childish. When we talk about, and we have before,
when Ukraine wants to strike and strikes targets within Russia,
you and I both scratch our head and wonder to
what end. It's not like they're going to make advances
and take over Russian territory. They don't have enough troops

(02:22:36):
to keep the territory if they took it. But when
they choose targets to bomb, last time I checked, it
was resort towns. There's not even a military objective. If
you're bombing a beat where people go to vacation, what
possible benefit could that be? And of course then the
Russians retaliate by bombing the Ukraine resort towns not military

(02:22:56):
objectives either, those are civilian targets. So what's the point
of this? Actually, again, it seems like children playing war games.

Speaker 26 (02:23:03):
Well, and part of the problem for the Ukraine side
is that they don't have They have limited number of
offensive missiles and drones, so they have some that can
get in, but not that many. Russia, on the other hand,
has more than enough air defense missiles. Unlike the Ukraine
side and the Western side, who are in a significant
dearth of those interceptor missiles, Russia has no shortage, but

(02:23:26):
they have them. They do have a huge country, so
they have to pick and chose where they put them.
So on the militarily important targets they have a lot
of air defense, so Ukraine doesn't want to waste its
missiles where they don't even get you know, they don't
even have video of burning buildings in Russia, so they
go places where there aren't air defenses or they're not
very many, and so they can get the video. Because

(02:23:46):
this is all about just having impressions and media outlets.
I mean, that's just the truth of it. They want
the video footage to show that they're doing something. There
is no military path, so it's not an issue that well,
this won't help the front because nothing will, which of
course exposes the absurdity of continuing to fight a ward.

Speaker 3 (02:24:05):
You can't win, no question about it. And this week
after week after week, we keep coming up with the
same conclusions, Daniel Davis, and we don't have the I
think one of the things we learned from COVID is
we need to start making our own stuff and not
being so reliant on China. This is a moment of
clarity for our US military because you know the world

(02:24:26):
is clamoring for our weapons and asking for patriots and
wanting this, and that we don't even have enough of
our own You mentioned many times on this program. We
talked about it last week. We can only make six
hundred patriot missiles a year. I mean, I'm sorry. The
demand is much greater than the supply, and we have
an obligation to our our own people to protect our

(02:24:47):
people from threats abroad and domestically, and for that you
need a stockpile of weapons, and apparently we don't have enough.

Speaker 4 (02:24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:24:55):
I mean that's you said, it's a moment of clarity.

Speaker 26 (02:24:57):
I would say it should be a moment of carity,
but it doesn't seem to be because I mean, what
was it more than a year ago? Is when we
expanded I got maybe two years ago we expanded our
capacity because it was five hundred missiles pier at the
outset of the war. Now is up to around six hundred.
But I mean, unless I miss something, I haven't seen
anybody say all right, we have this emergency contract here,

(02:25:21):
We're gonna triple it or something to that effect. You know,
we go way above what it is now that you
see how many interceptions it takes to sustain combat.

Speaker 19 (02:25:29):
Clearly we don't have enough.

Speaker 26 (02:25:31):
And by the way, the last credible information I've forgotten
from somebody who has access to the inside of the Pentagon,
it'll take about five years for us to repay replace
our own stock piles. And that number doesn't even start
five years until we stop giving everything that comes off
the Foundation to somebody else right now, to you know,
to whether it's to Israel or the Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (02:25:53):
So we need to do something. So you say clarity,
but I don't see that that clarity has turned into paulicy.
It's okay, the European Union's gonna buy seven hundred and
fifty billion dollars worth of military hardware from domestic military
hardware manufacturers, thus ensuring the longevity of the military industrial complex. Yeah,

(02:26:14):
and you know, I see that.

Speaker 26 (02:26:15):
Certainly from an American perspective, that's a big number.

Speaker 3 (02:26:19):
And then investing six hundred.

Speaker 26 (02:26:21):
Billion dollars in our energy all this, I mean, all
that is really good, but I mean you still have
that bottleneck there. It matters how much you can produce
and how fast. So a lot of dollars are being
thrown around, but you don't have the capacity to do
anything bigger. You just have the ability for the status
quo to continue to perpetuate for the military industrial complex.

Speaker 3 (02:26:40):
But that doesn't do a whole lot for our national security.
All right, Daniel Davis, let's walk down that dangerous road
and talk about Israel, Gaza and Iran. Now, obviously you
and I, I think the whole world can agree there
is a massive humanitarian crisis going on Gaza. There are
people literally starving, and I think the one of the
things I stepped in the other day was about this

(02:27:02):
getting aid into gods and getting food to people who
obviously need it. You know, the two sides every story.
You got Israel and maybe they're a blamed. You got
the Hamas terrorists maybe preventing the aid from getting into people.
But as soon as aide shows up, it's like any
group of starving people, it just turns absolutely chaotic. I know,
I saw a massive crowd storming one of the aid trucks,

(02:27:24):
and the UN obviously seems to me to be always
seems to me to be a pointless exercise incapable of
really providing any benefit anywhere. But they can't even seem
to resolve the situation. How are we going to How
can we just get food in there?

Speaker 26 (02:27:38):
Yeah, that's the central problem right now. The problem with
the UN is they have no power. They can only
have influence and they only try to say something. But
that requires primarily Israel on the ground, because they're the
only ones that actually have power over the situation. And
just in a form of context for people to understand
why we're in this starvation situation. Israel decided they didn't

(02:28:01):
like the UN program that was feeding people undraw it's called,
and so they shut that down and then they formed
this new one, and of course they had shut it
all from March up until just very recently. Now then
they have four food designation points where they can have it.
That's why you see this chaos here, because the entire
gauze strip has to swarm, you know, torment on four points.

(02:28:21):
They had four hundred before that, and so it's a
lot easier to distribute food more orderly when you have
multiple places.

Speaker 3 (02:28:30):
Where and routine food coming in.

Speaker 26 (02:28:32):
But unfortunately Israel has restricted it to four and the
number of trucks is about one, I'm sorry, a fifth
what is needed for just the basic sustenance airgo. You
have people starving to death because there's not enough food
getting into the population. And look, whatever you want to
say about anything the policies or who's right or wrong,
Israel has the power over the food. And right now

(02:28:54):
they are not releasing, they're not opening the gates, and
they're not letting the rest of the trucks get in.

Speaker 19 (02:28:59):
And we see what the result is.

Speaker 13 (02:29:00):
On the ground.

Speaker 3 (02:29:01):
And I have not looked for, nor have I read,
an explanation for why it went for that approach. I
presume on some measure Israel wants to manage the distribution
of food to keep it out of the hands of
Hamas and get it to the people who actually are starving.
But that Hamas is quite often commandeering the food supplies.
It's more food supplies, more trucks, more distribution centers. It

(02:29:22):
seems to me might still be managed by Israel if
they broaden the effort. But there is that threat of
Hamas and that concern about Hamas taking the supplies from
the people they purport to represent.

Speaker 26 (02:29:34):
Well, but the reality is you're not doing any of that,
you're not preventing even the way they're doing it now,
it's not preventing food forgetting to Hamas. They have no
idea who's Hamas and who's just Palestinian. So by saying
that's what they're trying to do, what they're doing is
starving other people. You're not going to prevent that. You
can't mean the Hamas is Palestine, I mean they are

(02:29:54):
part of it. So you can't distinguish where the food
goes because you Israel has no control what's where over
where that food goes in those four distribution points. Once
it goes in there, they don't know where it goes,
whether it's four or four hundred. So that's not an
attainable objective because it can't be met. But this is
just not a military solvable question. And look, at some

(02:30:16):
point you're just gonna have to say either Israel is
going to literally starve everyone to death or they're going
to have to open the gates. And they're coming under
a lot more pressure. And I personally found that reprehensible
that that's they're using starvation as a tool.

Speaker 3 (02:30:30):
It's yeah, Well, and the idea of using civilian captives
as a tool. I find that in humanitary from a
humanitarian inspective and an ethical perspective, pretty awful too. But
what's the downside risk of just allowing opening the gates
and allowing food in. We're not talking about military or
anything like that, just letting the food in and letting

(02:30:50):
it go where it may.

Speaker 26 (02:30:51):
Listen, Brian, we got to be honest and especially and
I'm not talking secret stuff here. I'm talking absolute open
discussion within his senior Israeli position and on Israeli media.
They want the Palestinians out. They don't want to open
the gates and let the food in. That would now
then remove the pressure to get them. I think it's
pretty clear from evidence that what they want is to

(02:31:14):
compel or coerce other regional countries, whether that's in Africa.
There's been some talk there or in other Arab countries
that they want them to see how bad this is
and say.

Speaker 19 (02:31:25):
Are will just alleviate the suffering.

Speaker 26 (02:31:26):
Let them come here, Let you know, five hundred thousand
come here or something like that, or go anywhere, because
they want them out. So there are many in Israel
who don't want to solve that problem because they want
to keep the pressure on that could possibly get them out.

Speaker 3 (02:31:40):
And that's just the uncomfortable truth. So they wanted to part.
They wanted to be a big as an empty parking lot.
That is what they want. They have a plan right now.
It was out there just last week.

Speaker 26 (02:31:52):
There's many discussing openly the reoccupation of Gaza to Israeli people,
meaning they have to first get the current occupants out.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
Complicated world we live in. I always love talking with
you about it, which we could solve the problems of
the world. But then again, you and I wouldn't have
anything to talk about every Tuesday at eight thirty Daniel Davis,
I would.

Speaker 26 (02:32:13):
Love it if we didn't have any we could talk
about sports or ill seasons coming up.

Speaker 3 (02:32:17):
I'd rather do that and have that problem solved. I
tell you what, I have said that so many times
over the years. If all the problems of the world solved,
I wouldn't have anything to talk about. That's fine. I'll
find something else to do for a living. Daniel Davis
Deep Dive find him online. You'll enjoy the podcast and
the conversations he has throughout the week, and I certainly
appreciate you let me on your show. Last week was
a fun conversation, sir.

Speaker 19 (02:32:39):
It was a pleasure. I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:41):
I'll look forward to next week, next Tuesday, my friend,
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Speaker 3 (02:34:00):
Think about Parc DE talk station Happy Today tomorrow the
return of Judge Ennena Paul Tano, who's back from vacation.
Looking forward to having back on the program this morning.
Smith Aman return to have a few more words to
say about some of the comments that are rolling around
about this incident over the weekend. Ken Blackwell on that
same incident, of course, the beatdown that those two people, well,
actually it's more than two. There are other videos floating

(02:34:22):
around about violence and the knockout game appears to be
what's at play here where you start recording knowing full
well that your buddy's going to walk up and out
of nowhere deck somebody and knock them out. Unconscious and then,
of course in the one illustration, drag them into the street.
Just brutal, vicious, animal like behavior. Anyway, Ken Blackwell on

(02:34:45):
that we also heard his comments about I am so
excited about the campaign of v Vake Ramas swiming for
hearing the government over state of Ohio and sounds to
me like Ken Blackwell's equally excited about him being our
next governor. Andre Ewing thoroughly impressed by Andre's posting on Facebook.
I suggest you check him out a n d Ari
Andre Ewing Ewig. You don't have to be a friend

(02:35:08):
with him on Facebook to see his rants, and they
are well. He just does not pull any punches demanding
a change in administration. He thinks police chief Thiji should resign.
Police didn't want her in the first place. He thinks
Cheryl Lung should resign because she's the one that put
her in that position over the objections of many of
the officers. So listen to the podcast at fifty five

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KC dot com and check him out on Facebook. Of course,
the Inside Scoop with Colin Maydine about artificial intelligence and
his comments on Bright Bartch reporting on the Brawlin Cincinnati
and why it went viral. Interesting in the student observations
from Colin and speaking of Facebook, a Signal ninety nine,
apparently a retired police officer, kind of remains anonymous but

(02:35:50):
has some really interesting posts and is widely followed by
a lot of people in greater Cincinnati area, so you
may already aready be familiar. The page describes itself as
a spicy meme page for ops, firefighters, medics and dispatchers.
So this person has connections within the Cincinni Police Department
and put a post up a few hours ago. Spoke
with a command staff homey CPDS Ivory Tower, who's pretty

(02:36:13):
pissed off about what happened on Fourth Street over the weekend.
Rights this is how the conversation went, and it's a
me hymn thing, So Signal ninety nine. And then the
command staff person that he's talking to, so Signal ninety nine.
Just how many officers were working in the downtown Central
Business section Friday night? Response? There were only three officers
assigned to work that Friday night, although there were several

(02:36:33):
extra squads and units working. CDRT and Squad ninety nine.
What about during the events? Response definitely adequately adequate coverage
until about two o'clock in the morning, Signal ninety nine.
They were all working third shift or power shift response.
The three officers were working second shift until two thirty

(02:36:55):
and the special units worked until two am. Ninety nine.
What about the Chief's new groovy task force? Did they
work past two o'clock in the morning? His response, doubtful,
I mean no comment. He then went on say Reds
five one three and jazz Fest were all over before
two am. The detail officers secured around two am, so
the CBS had to deal with the aftermath and those

(02:37:18):
who didn't leave downtown with only the three officers ninety nine,
So after two am, how many officers were there to
handle the after crowds from the Reds game, the five
one three event in JazzFest response? All event officers left
at or before two am. That left three third shift
relief officers and two more PVO that left at four am.

(02:37:40):
Those five officers and the three events and the rest
of the district to respond to, that's a lot of
square miles, folks, at a lot of people to have
to contend with. It's just interject that ninety nine says,
do you feel that there was sufficient coverage for that
many events going on Friday night into Saturday morning. Response.
Allow me to steal a quote from the Grand Pooba
Absolutely not ninety nine concludes, thank you for your time

(02:38:05):
in honesty is response, thank you for getting the word out?
Looks like it really got out this time. Referring to
his web page, the Signal ninety nine page, which you
can follow as well. Response, Yeah, I keep waiting for
Elon to call me, but the only people blowing up
my phone or reporters response, yeah, I don't miss that.
Take care, so three count them? And the other component

(02:38:28):
of this, which I thought was rather interesting, because police
Chief Thiji was talking about the response time, which is
about six minutes according to wlwg's reporting. Chief Thigi said
Cincinnati officers had a response time of six minutes in
part due to the heavy traffic in the downtown area
at the time, which say, we you what about the traffic?

(02:38:52):
Three am usually isn't a really packed street kind of time.
But what that think I also what I think that
also speaks to is the three officers that were available
weren't anywhere near the area they had to drive to
get there. Lee's one to sort of kind of want
to ask the question, were there enough officers out there

(02:39:16):
at the time? Are there enough officers at any given time,
given the shortage of staff that we were facing right now,
will the mayor do anything about it? Legitimate questions. You know,
sometimes good things can come from bad events, and let's
only hope that we get a change in strategy and
policing in downtown Cincinnati for the better, because clearly we

(02:39:37):
are on the wrong trajectory. Find the podcast if you
five Casey dot com, tune and tomorrow for judgment. Paula Tana.
Thank you Joe Streker for the wonderful guest lineup this morning.
It was really great to be able to talk to
all those folks, and I hope everyone has a wonderful day.
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