55KRC Tuesday Show - Todd Zinser, Breitbart, Deep Dive, OHC

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five o five.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
If you have k r C DE talk station.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Some sense, they said, snow, I gotta get the run
of bout like that.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Okay, yeah, you're gonna mind your p's and q's on
the roads this morning. Not a whole lot's been taken
care of, at least from my experience. It is just
five o six, So, uh, you've got some time. I
presume there are school in business closings. I'm busily trying
to find it on the website. Just tracker, executiveroducer where's

(00:49):
the school in business closings link? I don't know. It's
not in my control anymore. Those days are long gone,
so if you can find it, please let me know.
It's a little embarrassing that you know. Well. Listen, some
people have issues with their employer from time to time.
Some people have technical difficulties that are out of their control.
It's out of my control right now. But I want
to thank Zimmer Heating and Air Conditioning for sponsoring these

(01:10):
school and business closings. Find people they are, and I
will give them props for doing so. Sadly, I can
give them props but not know where to click to
find out where these school and business closings are Addie
how Brian Thomas right here glad to be. If you've
got a call you want to you want to talk
about something, feel free to give me you a rank
five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, eight

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hundred eighty two to three. Talk found five fifty on
at and T phone fifty five Casey dot com where
you can see the information like a podcast. It's right there.
I'm looking at it. Christopher Smithaman and Spleen vent from
yesterday the Sine Type in Print Museum Charles Dickens Christmas
event this weekend. You got to check that out. You
got three days to get on into the Print and
Type or Type in Print Museum and you'll get to
use the reproduction of the Gutenberg Press to print out

(01:53):
chapter five of Charles Dickens a Christmas Carol, which is
the one where Ebney's a Scrooge wakes up on Christmas
morning fully in light and scare the crap out of him,
facing eternal damnation for not being a charitable person. So
there you have it. Apparently that was the first Christmas
story that really linked that charitable giving to the concept

(02:14):
of eternal damnation. Anyway, a really good conversation with the
type in print museum folks, but great opportunity. Also get
to print out some Christmas paper three days worth of that.
The details that you have cares dot Com, so check
that out while you're busily trying to find for the
school and business closings information. Does it sound like I'm
biting the hand to feed me? Or am I just
expressing frustration you're creating? Oh, Joe Strecker is going to

(02:36):
solve the problem, even though it's not his job to
do it. Doesn't that job exist in Chicago or something.
There's someplace out in the world that deals with all
of our technical issues, probably Arizona, where they're not experiencing
heavy snowfall, as the roads are quite slick, stating the obvious.
But for some people, Cincinnati Snowplowed Tracker is live now.

(03:03):
I maybe it's just me. I was anxious to click
on this because I know that there is such a
thing as the snow plow Tracker. I have the link
in front of me. It says City of Cincinnati in
large words, snow plow tracker, give you some information. Tell
you what the chart reads, untreated, pre treatment, salted, plowed,

(03:24):
salted and plowed or problem which you can report. Sadly,
the screen which is supposed to reflect the status of
any given road in my studio anyway, does not work.
It's a black screen. It's like, Joe, does it work
in your studio? Yes, it does, so you can click
on that. And I relied on WCPO. They have a
link on their reporting on this. But it's a real

(03:45):
time if you can see it. Snowplow Tracker system live
first for the first time yesterday, claim to be minute
by minute updates so you know what roads you can
drive on or what roads are allegedly prepared. Joe suggested
that everything showed. All the roads showed at least pre treatment.
Although I drove see from Sims Township East Kemper down

(04:08):
Montgomery onto seventy one over or onto two seventy five
to seventy one, nothing looked like it had been touched.
And if it had been touched, the snow recovered the roadways.
Now there were trucks out, but I couldn't go faster
than let's say, forty miles per hour. And yes, I
drove the Key today, which is a four wheel drive car,
and didn't drive my car real real drive, even though

(04:29):
I got winter tires on it. It's just you know,
when you got four wheel drive, they drive the four
wheel drive car. It is slippery out there. It could
be very dangerous. And you know there are idiots out
on the road all the time, and idiots on the
road when there's snow make things that much more difficult.
So anyway, they say the large chunks of all the
roads were pre treated yesterday evening in anticipation, but we

(04:52):
got right now. So color coded system which tells you
what it has been treated, not treated, et cetera. So
if you see the orange line, if it works where
you are, that means saltan and plowed. A blue road
means it's been salted. A red road means problem danger

(05:12):
Will Robinson yellow pre treatment. Green is plowed. And then
the gray line means they haven't touched it, which would
be all the lines that I drove on on the
way to work this morning. It's kind of interesting, Joe said,
no one's around. Chuck Ingram hasn't shown up yet. We
haven't seen Chuck his lights off in his studio. I

(05:36):
guess no one's gonna get traffic today. Joe Strecker happens
to be the only producer in the building right now.
I'm sorry, what more can you do than laugh? Anyway.
The system was implemented after the catastrophe that was in
January where there was a couple of days where a

(05:57):
snowfall and a lot of roads didn't get touched. A
couple of days go by where streets remained unplowed. Mary
have to have parvol got a big earful over that one.
Poor folks in Mount Adams didn't even get their roads treated.
We'll see if things have changed this morning. You can
feel free to chime in on that as well. Five
one thirty seven, four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred
and eight two three talk Time play fifty on eighteen

(06:17):
t phone coming up on the show. This is gonna
be a good show this morning. At least I'm excited
about the seven o'clock hour, the return of our Citizen Watchdog,
the man responsible for the Citizen Watchdog podcast produced by
executive producer Joe Strecker. And letim put a plug in
for Joe. You want to do a podcast, You want
to get on there and event your spleen or talk
about some cool stuff or what at least seems to
be cool to you. Get in touch with Joe, He'll

(06:39):
produce it. That's what it is for Todd Zenzer. Todd Zenzer,
former Inspector General for the United States of America, always
keeping his eye on the shenannigans going on in downtown.
There seems to be an endless supply of those topics.
Today with Todd Zenzer in studio, Hey Todd, if you're
out there, leave a little bit early Cincinnati scrap lead
pipe scandal, talk about Cincinnati's Snap and wik programs, which

(07:03):
there may be a solution coming our way thanks to
some people who are now interested in ferreting out fraud,
waste and abuse, which I've been on a tear lately
over so Cincinnati Snap and Wig programs plus unregulated group homes.
Todd will explain all of that and let me encourage
you to well check out his podcast wherever you find
your podcast at Citizen Watchdog eight oh five. Of course,

(07:26):
it's Tuesday, the Inside Scoop that Bright Bart News financial
editor John Carney is going to be doing an empower
you seminar tonight seven pm. We'll talk about that. Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. We got some good things to talk
about with Daniel. I think I don't know I who's
going to be any good news, because every time we
end the segment, it's like, well, here we are, status quo.

(07:46):
It's been like this for a year. Both sides are
seeming to be in an impossible, untenable position with regard
to the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. I saw an
article over on Zerohead Ukrainian prosecutors are handling more than
three hundred thousand desertion cases. That doesn't look good. Now
the figures are you a big question marks fog of war?

(08:07):
You know what is really happening. We've heard more. We've
heard four hundred thousand, we've heard one hundred and fifty thousand,
But you're in the six figures when terms of Ukrainian
soldiers deserting, reportedly deserting like one guy every couple of
seconds or minutes as the case. Maybe you may get
him to chime in on that. Russia proclaiming final victory

(08:27):
of the city of Parkervosk on the eve of the
Putin Witcoff Peace Plan meeting that was yesterday, and then
we have NATO mulling what they're calling preemptive strikes against
Russia's hybrid warfare. Chairman of NATO's Military Committee says they're
currently mulling more proactive measures in response to Russia's escalating

(08:51):
hybrid warfare, cyber attacks, sabotage operations, airspace violations over Europe,
which the NATO Military Committee is suggesting they could mirror
and maybe ratchet up. The words World War three ever
come anybody's mind when you hear things like that. Anyway,

(09:12):
we'll get the Daniel Davis Deep Dive at eight thirty.
Then we get the sc expert, my good friends at OHC,
the cancer specialists today doctor ANDW. Paul on lung cancer. Well,
hopefully they usually have some good news with regard to
cancer research, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we
will get some good news. And speaking of good news,

(09:35):
I did have it in my mind I wanted to
start with a couple of good news stories this morning,
one that made national news and giving Breitbart props. Since
Bridebart inside Scoop is today, That's where I found the story,
although I did see it locally as well. We got
an Ohio couple very happy their car and their pet
were stolen from a parking lot that it was found.

(09:56):
Happened Saturday evening Rookwood parking Lot. These targeted Jimmy Herman
and Olivia Molina's vehicle WLWT providing the news on this
one and thank you for the local reporting and a
positive story. Dolly the dog inside the vehicle when for
whatever reason, Herman left it running but locked it went
into a local pizza joined to pick up his pizza order.
When they got out, I guess the car was gone,

(10:18):
and of course the dog was with it. They alerted
the internet community, which was responsive. Molina said, I immediately thought, well,
Oakley Hyde Park Moms, the Facebook group she's a member of,
We'll be all over this. I had strangers message to
me saying that they were driving around in the area
looking for her. I had people asking me how they
could help. You ever lose your dog? Did your dog
ever run away? Man? That freaks me out. When I

(10:41):
was a kid, my mom and dad's dogs, a little
West Island White Terrier. That dog would run the hell away,
and the opportunity it had it wouldn't come home. We
had to spend out neighborhood crews and get local residents
and people looking out for him, and it happened time
and time again, and from that point forward, every time
dog since nineteen ninety on my own first dog, Loophole,

(11:03):
the Doberman, my wife take Doberman O, take Loophole out
to the park and let it run freely, And it
just wigged me out. Because I of course had the
runaway dog in the back of my mind the whole time.
I couldn't imagine scouring Chicago looking for a lost dog. Fortunately,
Loophole never ran away, but in this particular case it
was out of Dolly's hands. Someone stole the dog with

(11:25):
the car, so they shared photos online what they believed
was Dolly, and a man using a drone also helped
track her down. The dog eventually found, although abandoned, in
East Walnut Hills. This after spending a night alone in
the dark. Law enforcement found the couple's car over in
East Price Hill. Thieves had torn out the tracking software

(11:47):
and removed the license plates. So thieves, I guess, are
aware where your tracking software is. Herman. Mister Herman had
the key fob with him when he went inside to
pick up the food order. Here's another alert for you.
Apparently that doesn't work. Thieves can use what was described
here as universal keys to access cars drivers. Car drivers
that when the engine is running, even if it's locked. Boy,

(12:10):
they these criminal elements have taken it to the next level.
So don't leave your car running, lock it and then
turn it back on when you get back in. I guess.
So they thanked everybody. They thanked the community social media,
and they said, while the people who dumped her outside
absolutely suck, we are blown away by your kindness of

(12:31):
our community. Thank you all, she wrote, So thank you.
You know that's as a dog owner, that is just
a beautiful thing. Strangers coming together to help someone find
their lost pat And look, we can all praise social
media for having that. If I was a kid, you
were stuck, you go door to door and ask people
to help you out. If you see Buffy the dog,

(12:52):
would you please let us know we'll come pick them up.
Now you've got social media to help well ease that process.
Success story right there, which is good. Another positive news.
Really quickly enjoy it. Gas prices have fallen to the
lowest national average since May of twenty twenty one, American

(13:13):
Automobile Association reporting the national average three dollars a gallon,
although if you're lucky enough to live in Oklahoma average
two dollars and forty cents. If you're unlucky to live
in California, the most expensive state in the Union, where
gallon of gas costs four dollars and fifty six cents
on average. Hawaii's even cheaper at four dollars and forty

(13:34):
one cents per gallon. Smile, you're paying three. I haven't
checked gas Buddy for local prices, but I welcome the
well at least some relief inflation. Yes, obviously the price
of fuels directly linked to inflation. Obviously you're paying a
ton more for gasoline. You have less money to spend
on everything else, and the cost of shipping and everything

(13:55):
else is expensive more because fuel is expensive. Donald Trump's
all the above and policy will give him props for well,
keep him gasoline down by nineteen Right now after you
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for a five carsite talk station. Well Joe found the

(14:16):
link to the School of Business closing and talk to
you by Zimmerheating and Cooling. Although whatever, it's not working
for me. I guess it must be my computer. Let's
get see what new amster Gary's got this morning. New
Amster Gary, welcome back, my friend. Good to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Hey, Brian, Hey, I was really kind of disturbed to
hear that you were starting to have dreams like what
you were talking about this weekend. I was too busy
to call you yesterday, but I just want to say,
welcome to the world of PTSD. And that's exactly what

(14:51):
that is. That that lasts for weeks sometimes. I had
a reoccurring dream when I was in combat that it'll
last for about three weeks for me. And you know
it still if you hit me on the wrong way,
it's still you.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Know, yeah, oh yeah. The fact that you mentioned my
dream now makes me feel uneasy and uncomfortable. Those those
feelings deep inside me that I felt waking up from
that disturbing dystopian dream. As I mentioned on the program,
he actually lasted me all day on Sunday. And you know,
I wasn't thinking about it this morning when you bring
it up. Yeah, it's just it's just it was depressing.

(15:27):
It could feel at my stomach and that tightening in
my in my chest.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I want to tell you I feel for you. But
there's also there's there's there's two things. I wanted to
say that if we look in history that there is
a quote from also Mussolini, Banto Mussolini, and he was

(15:53):
a big Fascist from Italy during World War two, and
he had a nineteen twenty two state and it was
called the USA Speech where he predicted and he quoted
everything in the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against
the state. You will dream about the state, you will

(16:16):
be the state. And I think if we look at
what this guy up here, the Muslim up in, the
mayor of New York, and I listened to his speech
where he said, there's going to be nothing too big
or too small that the government can't find an interest in.

(16:38):
And I think this is going to become more and
more a reality. And I think psychologically, I think you're
starting to really figure this out, and you're seeing the
clouds on the horizon.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And it reminded me of a movie. It's called Into
the Storm, and strangely enough, it was in twenty eleven,
and it's a really good movie. And it's a movie
about a man who has these terrifying nightmares and these
nightmares keep getting more and more vivid for him, and

(17:18):
he's moved to action on him unbeknownst to him, and
everybody's just going, it's just a dream. It's just a dream.
And then finally, as the movie moves on, it turns
out that these dreams, it finally became reality, you know,
and he saw tornadoes. But it's a metaphor for what's.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Really going happen.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Actually, what would you call premonissions. And it was a
way of God telling this guy you have to act.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, it's interesting because I had a caller at the
end of the program suggests it was the same thing.
It was God waking up and because you know, ultimately
and we're out of time. But I got a point.
I never remember my dreams. I mean rarely, rarely, rarely,
So when I do, I was like kind of even
make a note of saying to my wife, I had
this really weird dream last night, which never happens. It
was like once every six months I might remember one.

(18:17):
This was like, yeah, I lived it, vivid, disturbing, dystopian.
And again Eugene Debs's name showed up in my dream.
And if you'd asked me the day before Eugene. You
mentioned Eugene Debs. I would have scoured my memory banks
to try to remember who in the hell that was.
Look him up. Comedy getting it started the Socialist and

(18:38):
the Communist Party here in the United States of America
late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundred. So that was
a weird alignment of the stars. New Hampshire, Garrett, appreciate it, man,
thank you very much for bringing that up. And yeah,
it's just I mean, it wasn't as if I wasn't
aware of the reality. It was all about this invasion
we've had that is undermining our culture, our norms, the
criminal elements of comport into our country that have no

(19:00):
connection to our society or its foundations, that are just
literally undermining everything. You know, this nation might have been
built on immigrants, but you know what, we didn't have
a damn social welfare state that people could hook themselves
up to. That is ruining us financially. I mean, this
is a weapon of war. Mass migration in a welfare
state like we've got is a weapon of financial war,

(19:22):
and we are losing it. New Hampshire, Gary, take care
of my friend. Be careful out there. Five twenty nine
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Congratulations to Cribbage Mike aka Submarine or Mike. He filled
up for two forty six a gallon this morning in
Amelia and he said two dollars and ten cents per

(19:45):
gallon after his Kruger rewards card. And he has a
woo who after that one. So hopefully I'm seeing Cribbage
Mike tomorrow morning or tomorrow at the fifty five car
see last listener. Lunch of the calendar year twenty twenty
five are going to be a price Heal chili and
somebody's out in front of Price sal T right now.
Tell me how the snowplows are doing with the new
speed bumps. Greg, Welcome to the Morning Show. Someone's Greg's

(20:08):
in Florida. I guess you're gonna be snow to deal
with this morning. Greg, Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Well, I'm trying to work for right now.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
I just see fog. It's only sixty one right now.
That fog may be fought up by the time the
sun gets up now. I was telling Joe that I
was back up north over the Thanksgiving weekend and what
you're going through I was going through Saturday and Sunday,
and their forty degrees different is a big difference.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's a big difference. Yeah. That In Florida, though, you'll
find people wearing winter coats and sixty degree weather. My
dad used to make fun of the senior citizens down
there that did that. I mentioned that yesterday too.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Oh yes, I mean it was.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
I mean there's guys that were there were hoodies and
everything else, and it's like, dude, it's sixty degrees, why
are you wearing a hoodie?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I know.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Anyway, Also, I was going to touch on you was
talking about those lost animals or lost dogs back up north.
When I was lived up above up by Cleveland, I
was the one they always called in and listened on
the phone when I can't get it through over iHeartRadio app. Yeah,
so that may pickle your brain on that one. But

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my dogs would escape or get loose every once in
a while. They had Sam the parrot, and that helped
out quite a bit. They found them a couple of
times through Sam the Parrots. All right, that is an
extremely helpful website. If you're up around the Cleveland area,
around that area, well, you.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Know, fortunately, you know in terms of folks who love
dogs like I do, and if your dog runs away,
we I mean, there's modern technology. You can put a
tracking device on your dog. I imagine an air tag
might work for that. You've got social media now where
you can alert all your neighbors. So it's a much
better place to be for lost dogs than it was
when I was a little like I still speaking of
post traumatic stress minor as it is, I still kind

(21:58):
of struggle with that with the idea of the dog
dog running away because of the trauma I experience as
a child with our dog running away and sometimes you
felt like never coming back, heartbreaking experience. All right, Greg,
will you you rubbed it in sixty degrees but foggy,
so the fog crimea river, Greg, we're dealing with uh

(22:19):
closed roads and shut down schools. Thanks for tuning in, Man,
appreciate you calling from Florida. That's awesome. Be careful out
there in the fog. Five thirty six IF five car
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Speaker 5 (22:47):
Don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
There's Tom. Somebody sent a search party out for him.
Hope he didn't run off the road getting out of
his job at the building the convention center. Tom, if
you're out there worried about you, my friend, he's probably
at home. What a wos is that what you just said?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yes, and thank you Andrew Pappi's former Anderson Township trustee
for letting us know how deep the snow is at
his in his house. He sent a photograph. At least
Joe Strecker gave him credit for it. What device did
he use to gauge the two inches worth of snow
in his backyard? I can't quite tell what this picture

(23:23):
is supposed to be, Joe Strecker. I'm not saying that
out loud anyhow. Anybody remember when he used to do
the school in business closings out loud? You spend fifteen
twenty You go through every segment, just starting the school
business closings and then that will be it. You didn't
have to do anything by way of content. I remember,

(23:45):
long after we had electronic school and business closings and
alerts on cell phones. I remember Jim Scott. He used
to love to do him and he stuck to tradition
as long as he could. God bless him anyway. I
just looked and yes, the school and business closings are
now linked on my page fifty five krs dot com.
And uh, going back and waxing poetic about the old
days when I would wait around for my dad to

(24:05):
read the school in business closing, hoping and hoping and hoping.
He would say, oak Hills Local Schools, Yeah, they're closed too.
Pretty much everybody is today, so make sure you check
it if you haven't gotten some advanced alert. And Joe said,
the snow trackerer alert will add this to the stack.
Is stupid because the brand new just launched yesterday Cincinnati
Snowtracker apparently is down. It was working for Joe earlier.

(24:29):
I couldn't get it to work, but he said he,
I guess it's been overwhelmed by the number of people
clicking on it. Joe or something to that effect, or
maybe they just turned it off because they didn't want
to demonstrate incompetence. I'm just speculating at this juncture over
the stack is stupid. Joe likes to throw me a
curveball every once in a while to see if he
can maintain see if I can maintain FCC compliance. While

(24:50):
reading an article as this tradition, which has the headline
Kinky Kelly headed to jail for PA spree. What okay,
let's give it a shot. New Hampshire woman known on
OnlyFans website. You may not be familiar with it, and
maybe you are if you're looking for It's Kinky Kelly

(25:13):
going to jail for six months for criminal mischief, during
which she filmed herself urinating on food at a supermarket
and in various items at a Marriott hotel.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Do what the hell?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I've warned people about the hotel thing, man, because I
have seen stuff like this before articles to this effect.
People will go around and do really disgusting things to
various items in hotel rooms and then leave. What sort
of weird pleasure do you get from violating like the
coffee maker and leaving that next gut or the remote

(25:48):
that's another one, Joe anyway. Kelly Tedford Kinky Kelly, twenty
four years old, plead guilty to a Class A mystery
several Class A misdemeanors in connection with her antics earlier
this year. Sentenced to three hundred and sixty days in jail,
but a judge suspended half of that. She will be
required to serve one hundred and eighty days in Cheshire

(26:08):
County lock Up, after which she will be placed on
probation for two years. Also ordered to pay ten five
hundred and twenty one dollars in restitution to the Monondoc
Food co Op for contaminating grocery items. So I have
to pay five hundred dollars to the Marriotte where it
says here in an extraordinarily vile act, a vile act.

(26:31):
She relieved herself on a Bible comfort, her blanket, curtains
and an air conditioner unit. Why are you doing that?
There is no answer to that question. In addition, she
defecated on the floor and placed waste into the toilet tank.

(26:56):
Try to process that, they say. Detectives believe this spree
was recorded for subscribers to her fifteen dollars month only
fans page, where she describes herself as a submissive pixie
fetish slash kink friendly prian extremes too close quote. Her

(27:21):
account also offered custom content and paid sexting sessions. Where
in the hell this twenty four year old run off
the rails? This is the world we live in, Hey,
thanks social media. Really appreciate that. Five forty six fifty
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closing sponsor by five fifty one fifty five CARSD talk station, Hey, Westside.
Jim Keifer chimed in, not to be outdone by Drew
Pappas measuring the snow with something over in Anderson Township.
He said there's four inches in chrysil but he didn't
use the Pappas measuring device. Really have no idea what
these people are talking about it go to the phones, cribbage. Mike,

(28:02):
saw your excellent gas price two dollars and ten cents
with your Kroger rewards card. Outstanding man, I felt.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I went back in time.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
It's pretty nice to hope it continues to go in
that direction.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
No kidding? Am I going to see you a listener
lunch tomorrow. The burning question I've got Price sal Chilly
for the last one of the year, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Sir, and a well timed Tuesday Wednesday off that I'm
home today and don't have to be out in that mess,
and then then of course being able to go to
listener lunch. But I at least hope they plow sunset
because coming from Amelia, I'm going to go over Queen
City and I want to see a repaid sunset on
my way up the priceal Chilly tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm looking forward to it as well. It's the first
time I'll have driven on it since it got resurfaced.
I'm still I'm you know, half of me doesn't really
want to believe it happened. I've been told over and
over good they actually did resurface it, but I'm going
to remain skeptical until I on it tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
I'm surprised they have. Did they have a ribbon cutting
or something to take advantage of? Yeah, I know, such
a glorious event.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
And I'll admit part of me wants to think I
had something to do with it, because I've been complaining
about it since I've been on radio next year twenty years.
So anyhow, well done, sir, thank you and appreciate your
timing in Mike tomorrow, Price will Chili be there west side,
Jim Key for I know you sent me the snow measurement.
Get out in front of Price sal Chili and see

(29:29):
how the snowplows deal with the new speed bumps. Big
question mark swirling around that back to the stack is stupid.
Don't do this. De Molin police detectives asking for the
public's help locating a guy who has wanted for gun
and drug charges. Damian Buckner, thirty six, apparently possession of
two handguns. End quote delivery quantity close quote marijuana. I

(29:52):
think that's process for sale. Officers responded to investigate a
report of a gunfire at his home. Mister Buckner injured
when a handgun stored in an oven fired multiple rounds
as the oven was heating up. Idiots doing idiot things
because they're idiots the definition of idiots. Buckner wanted on

(30:12):
active orangs for felony possession of a firearm and possession
of controlled substance with intent to deliver. So they want
your help if you know where he is. Since it's
des Moines, Iowa, it's certainly possible. My listening audience includes
friends from Des Moines, Iowa. And if you're out in
Des Moines, Iowa today, please give me a call and
don't do this. And I feel terribly because the kid
had been diagnosed with schizophrenia and previously institutionalized as a child,

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but also did time in prison. We go to Brazil
where Garrison del Melo Machada, who was nineteen, snuck into
a lioness's pen at the park Zubatanio Zoo, scrambled over
the wiretop fence climbed down a tree inside the lion's pen.

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Visitors described his horrified watch helplessly as lioness named Leona
ran over to the foot of the tree as he
was slowly climbing down, waiting for her prey to well
jump in front of her, and then pounced on him,
dragging the teenager behind a wall. Apparently, Machado reappeared briefly
as he tried to run away before the lioness leapt

(31:19):
on him again. As I mentioned, the child had been
previously diagnosed with cognitive dysfunction previously snuck into a landing
gear of an African bound plane in pursuit of his
dream to tame lions fortunately discovered in time before the
plane took out, got referred to Chold Protective Services. That
was a prior incident. The zoo did confirm the teenager

(31:40):
was dead, stating that the lioness and here's the important part,
would not be euthanized because it wasn't the animal's fault.
Accord to the zoo, it was immediately evaluated. The animal
was by a technical team and remains under continuous observation
and monitoring as she experienced a high level of stress.
Leona's healthy does not exhibit aggresive behavior outside the context

(32:01):
of this incident, will not be euthanized. Protocol situations like
this provides exactly what is being done monitoring, behavioral assessment
and specialized care. The zoo did have to close after
the incident, pursuing to their safety protocols. I can't even
qualify that as a cautionary tale. Five fifty six fifty

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five KRCD talk station plenty to talk about coming up
with a six o'clock hour. I do welcome phone calls
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Speaker 8 (32:36):
UR News Today's top headlines coming up.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm us here glad to be that made it to work.
Unlike some people, I'm not going to make fun of
checking for not showing up the work. Maybe something's wrong
out there and Tom didn't call him this morning either,
kind of worried about him. Usually hear from him. In
the five point thirty segment, he's a woos Joe. Okay,
fair enough, you draw your own conclusions, so I hope
he's all right. You can feel free to call for

(33:14):
something you want to talk about five one three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five eight hundred eight two three. It's of course
in the greater Cincinnati area. Where do you want the
snow out there? School closings and delays are alive and
well fifty five care sea dot com on my blog page,
there's a link, and yeah, your school's probably closed or
at least delayed, Lots and lots of them. And in
so far as the brand new snow plow Tracker Cincinnati

(33:35):
launched this yesterday to explain what roads have been touched
or untouched with the case of him, whether it been
salted or plowed. It's not working. It was working for
Joe earlier in the morning, but apparently I guess the
number of clicks on it, the site's crashed. Whatever the
problem is. It was launched yesterday, so I'm not exactly
going to put a check mark in the wind column

(33:57):
on that one. But to the extent it works, someday
it may help you figure out which roads have been touched. Notably,
the ones between my home and here at the Towers
of Kenwood did not appear as if they had been
dealt with yet, So be very careful out there, ultimately,
is what I'm encouraging you to do. So that further doo.
What's coming up Citizen Watchdog Todd Zinser. He is amazing

(34:19):
former Inspector General for the United States of America. He'll
be dealing with some of the local issues, which is
what he does all the time. Again, props to Todd
Zinser and his podcast, produced by executive producer Joe Strecker
Citizen Watchdog. Today we'll talk about the Cincinni scrap lead
pipe scandal, CINCINNTY, Snap and Wick programs, and unregulated group
homes full hour in studio with the brilliant man that

(34:40):
is Todd Zenser inside Scoop with breit Bart News. Moving
forward to eight oh five, we hear the from the
Breitbart Finance editor John Carney, who's doing an empower You
seminar tonight. Log in from the comfort and convenience of
your own home. It's a virtual class only beginning at
seven pm. Will interest rates be coming down? Good question?

(35:01):
See if he knows the answer to that. What else
is on Daniel Davis Deep Dive at eight thirty Quite
a few headlines score over with Daniel Davis, Russia, Ukraine
and whatever is going on in Israel and Gaza. Finally
asked the expert, doctor Andrew Paul, one of the brilliant
doctors at OHC, the cancer specialists, my doctor, He'll join
us at the end of the program in the eight

(35:21):
o'clock yard to talk about lung cancer anyhow, without further ado,
you know one of my favorite topics. I just love
the idea of global warming and climate change because you
know that gives governments the opportunity to change our well
everything there is to change about our lives. It's a
nefarious plot against us. I'm convinced. Go ahead, try to
convince me I'm wrong. But carbon dioxide is not a

(35:42):
pollutant period end of story. Naturally occurring plant food. Why
are we busting our hump and killing ourselves trying to
eliminate carbon dioxide from the environment. You want to get
rid of mercury, We get rid of workleer. You want
to get rid of, you know, carcinogenic pollutants. Do that?
Go ahead to prive the plants of food. Anyhow. A
couple of related stories on this, the October EV sales crash.

(36:11):
Don't let your business model rely on government subsidies is
the lesson to be learned from this one, Relying primarily
on the lost Wall Street Journal op ed piece on this.
The seventy five hundred dollars per vehicle tax credit is
over ended in September. September thirtieth, last day to get that,
So if you bought an EV after September thirtieth, I
don't have to pay part of your vehicle cost, which

(36:33):
is exactly what it is, taxpayer funded seventy five hundred
dollars tax credit. Cox Automotive, which keeps track of vehicles sold,
said they drop thirty percent year over this October down.
They sold under seventy four or seventy five thousand vehicles,

(36:53):
saying October marked the sharp reversal of the electric vehicle
market as the expiration of the federal EV tax credit
cooled demand. So sales drop apparently gott to be pinching
the margins of US manufacturers, which is reported here, most
of whom losing money on electric cars even when sales

(37:14):
were brilliant. GM Ford stillanis suggested their EV production to
account for the sales plunge. Quote. EV profitability remains a
distant dream for nearly every automaker, according to a statement
from Cox, the folks that are following the data, huh,
I guess you don't want them absent big freebe compliments

(37:37):
in the American taxpayer. What else? The left's climate dream
hits energy reality. Chris Horner over at the Wall Street
Journal on this one, I just go ahead and read it,
because you know, illustrates backcrap insanity. And when reality shows
up and the voters start rebelling against your green climate
agenda because they can't afford their electric bill, you tend

(37:59):
to change their tune. Like Massachusetts Governor Heally, here's what
they write. And Chris Horner, anyway, a politically driven effort
to force a transition from traditional power to win solar
and battery has produced an energy crisis in Blue America anyway,
Progressive led states are beset by increasing electricity rates and
declining reliability. Although their leaders uniformly blamed President Trump, the

(38:22):
costs becomes so high that some on the left are
finally scaling back these destructive policies. But it's no guarantees,
sobriety will win the day. New left wing awareness of
energy realities is apparent coast to coast. Former New Jersey
Representative Mickey Cheryl won the state's governorship this month in
part by pledging to deal with high electricity costs. As

(38:46):
a member of Congress, however, she reliably voted for the
energy transition agenda, although on the campaign trail she blamed
Donald Trump's policies for her state's problems. Naturally, it's all
Donald Trump's fault. The snow and the traffic is Donald
Trump's fault. By the way, Governor Gavin Newsom moderating some
of his positions in anticipation of yes his twenty twenty

(39:09):
eight presidential run. They have the nation's highest electricity rates,
by the way, Newsom recently signed legislation returning billions to
state's leaguered rate pairs as he slowed some of the
quote unquote climate regulations he previously helped accelerate. Newsom deflected
responsibility to subsidy reductions because of President Trump subsidy reductions.

(39:35):
Oh that's the lynchpin I and Joe Strecker, and you
have to pay for California's stupid efforts to reduce carbon
dioxide in the air subsidies. If they take them away,
then you got to change your tune, says Yet recent
infighting over detransitioning in Massachusetts indicates that holdouts do remain

(39:56):
opposing even the most sensible adjustments. In late October, the
organizeation tasked with ensuring the reliability of New England's grid
warned of power shortages as soon as well. This winner
I E. Right Now emphasized the need to obtain dependable
energy production, just of which solar and wind will not
deliver sufficient constant, reliable power, no excrement, basing onhappy voters

(40:22):
and an election in less than a year, Democratic Governor
Mara Heally clumsily denied responsibility for Massachusetts predicament, only to
be embarrassed when videos emerge of her taking credit for
blocking the energy infrastructure she now says the state desperately needs. Yeah,
there's those pipelines that she wouldn't allow to go through.
Other Democrats scrambling for the exits to Last week, leading

(40:45):
Democratic members of the Bay States House, the Representatives sought
to force a vote before adjourneying for the year to
change the Commonwealth's twenty thirty climate mandate into an aspirational goal.
While yes blaming President Trump, lead sponsor and Energy Committee
co chair, Representative Mark cus X said he had the

(41:05):
House Speaker's support, but after what one news outlet called
an avalanche of opposition from climate group's party leadership, block
the vote, a direct rebuke to Miss Healey, who continues
to prioritize legislation, doubling down on the green agenda, styled
with accuracy typical of the transition vernacular as the Energy Affordability,

(41:28):
Independent and Innovation Act. Yeah, you can read that in
the same way you can read Inflation Reduction Act. There's
nothing going to be affordable about energy when they pursue
this green agenda. Let's just name it something that looks
like we're doing something on behalf of the rate pairs.
As politically smart as it would be to pivot, the
governor is simply too invested in the climate activist world.

(41:50):
The statewide elected officials since twenty fourteen, Healey exercised the
authorities of office to advance these policies in coordination with
the party's donor class. Take, for example, the resurface videos
of her insisting in twenty twenty two on the quote
absolute close quote necessity of opposing new gas build out

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and bragging about having blocked two natural gas pipelines into
the state while she was Attorney General uh oh in
an amekas brief she fought in twenty sixteen in the
case challenging Massachusetts regulator's order allowing a utility to build
a natural gas pipeline financed by ratepayers. Heally's victory in
the case came about thanks to what her office called

(42:33):
an expert study that showed that New England didn't need
new natural gas infrastructure to serve the electric sector and
examine the implications of a different energy choices on climate
and energy costs. Keep in mind that expert report, because
it kept circulating the journal or. Mister Horner says you

(42:56):
know what will we do without experts the study? Get
a load of this. This is the one that was
relied on in court, paid for by a three hundred
thousand dollars grant to then Attorney General Heally from a
place called the Bar Foundation, described as a project of
Continental Cable Vision founder now climate activist Amos barr Ostedter Junior.

(43:18):
Uh huh. Heally boasted using the study to block pipelines
in a twenty seventeen memorandum requesting a group created by
climate activists Michael Bloomberg. The writer he office with a
special Assistant Attorneys General to help advance progressive, clean energy,
climate change, and environmental legal positions. At least a dozen
Democratic attorneys general, including Heally, participated in that program, which

(43:41):
was criticized in the Wall Street Journal, among other places.
As governor, miss Healey in twenty twenty four createdy an
Office of Energy Transformation tasked with supporting her proposed energy
affordability legislation. The office staffed on a pro bono basis
with the same quote unquote experts study authors that she

(44:02):
used when misjudging the state's need as attorney general. In
other words, that study that said we don't need no
natural gas. We need wind and solar. We can do
fine without anything else wrong. How's that working out for you?
It's encouraging that from New Jersey to California some progressives
elected officials are pumping the brakes on energy transition. The

(44:23):
question is whether enough of the peers we'll see things
more clearly before the lights go out, and of course
before people freeze to death. Joe, I see your call.
I'll take you right out of the gate. I do
realize the amount of time in the segment six eighteen right now,
I'm seventy one. Not quite sure whether he was coming
from north or southbound seventy one, but it doesn't surprise
me given the condition of I seventy one when I
came into work. It was a little after three this

(44:45):
morning as I hit the roadway, so just be careful.
It's kind of terrible out there anyway. That's what the
cough buttons for Brian apologies.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Further, those green policy stuff e I mean, all of
it seems to go without saying. So, you know, I
have like a stack of these articles. I commented a
couple of them, but pivot over to Europe, you know,
a cautionary tale. Don't do what other countries do when
it ruins them. Huh. Don't go socialist when it rule

(45:18):
like that as well. Okay, you want to be socialists
out there, my little comedy socialist friends, go ahead. Look
what it did to Look at what did to Venezuela's economy. Yeah,
runaway inflation. It drove everybody in the toilet, and anybody
who was capable of leaving the country left a long
time ago. Huh. How about that another failure. It's in
front of you everywhere. Don't do that. A couple of

(45:43):
fun facts from greening Europe's effort to slash their carbon dioxide.
Germany the highest domestic energy prices in the entire developed world,
United Kingdom the highest industrial electricity rates, according to a
basket of twenty eight major economies analyzed by the International

(46:05):
Energy Agency. They say Italy not far behind average electricity
prices for heavy industries in the entire European Union, roughly
twice of those in the United States, and oh yeah,
fifty percent above China. Hum. This is apparently hobbling the

(46:26):
word they used. Europe's ability to attract key economic drivers
like artificial intelligence. Fun fact on that one. Get a
load of this. It's so bad over there their efforts
to remove carbon dioxide. Ireland. The state grid operator in
Ireland imposed an effective moratorium on new data centers that
things that drive the cloud, computing and artificial intelligence moratorium

(46:51):
until twenty twenty eight. Why because existing data centers drained
over one fifth of the country's electlectricity supply last year.
Now say what we want about data centers, whether you
what one in your backyard or your state, or your
country at all or not. This is the wave of
the future. If you're going to compete in this world,

(47:12):
apparently you need these things. So sucks to be you Ireland.
Your green energy policies make it impossible. CEO of a
German data center operator, guy named Jerome Evans, sought to
expand his two data centers in Frankfurt, Germany. The local
power provider told him he would have to wait a

(47:35):
decade until twenty thirty five for the energy to power them.
Someone wrote China wins exclamation point after that, and most notably,
I'd love this headline from over in Fox News, and
of course it delves into the details on it. Chinese
Communist Party linked firms quietly hold steaks in US solar companies,
fuelling dems green push. So while you're pushing for this

(47:58):
green energy, which hobbles you economically, which drives the cost
of energy up, which impacts you the consumer, who are
desperately trying to find ways to pair back your expenses
because of this pesky reality of inflation. This is artificial inflation.
This is driving your energy prices up artificially, and to

(48:18):
what end. Going back to the Chinese Communist Party, how
many times do we have to point out over and
over again they continually build coal plants while we cut
our throat to the name of reducing plant food. They
are building out their energy infrastructure. It remains far more
affordable for them, and we are funding that by buying

(48:39):
their blanking products. They love shoving this green stuff down
our throat. I mean, you can think about the social
media out there that they have so much control over,
the bot farms, the individuals TikTok for example. Do you
think there's any narrative on those Chinese Communist Party controlled
a site, any narra that suggests this is a laugh,

(49:02):
that this is nonsense, This idea of limiting carbon dioxide
Hell no. They make fat bank on convincing you that
you need to continue to believe in the religion and
that that idiot Thomas on the radio is wrong. Coming
about six twenty eight fifty five KRC the talk station,
I'll tell you one thing you can certainly count on
sex thirty three if you give up car and s

(49:22):
DE talk station Todds ends or Citizen Watchdog. At the
top of the air news we'll talk about the Sin
Sin Scrap lead pipe scandal, the Snap and Wick programs
in Cincinnati, as well as unregulated group homes. Looking forward
to that. Speaking of well food programs, snap Wick programs, uh,

(49:43):
Apparently millions of dollars have been stolen for food assistance
in the state of Ohio, the Ohio Benefits cards, the
Snap cards, the Direction Card of Ohio EBT. That's what
they're called susceptible to skimming technology because we're not using
modern technology naturally, because they didn't keep fraud, wasting abuse
in the forefront of their mind when they started this.

(50:05):
Thieves stole seventeen million dollars roughly in Snap benefits for
more than thirty four thousand Ohio households. This between June
of twenty three and December of twenty four, federal government
used taxpayer dollars to reimburse those benefits that were stolen. Well,
now apparently the victims have to eat the loss props.

(50:27):
To Enquire's Jesse Baumber reporting, there you go, bipartisan proposal
from a Representative Kelly Deeter of Republican at A Norwalk
and Representative Tristan Raider, Democrat of Lakewood, oh Look, bipartisanship
will require Ohio to add chip technology to the benefit
cars within two years. Now, this is going to cost

(50:47):
ten point six million dollars. I don't know if it's
a one time expenditure, it sounds like it is. But
if you get seventeen million dollars stolen in a little
more than a year, I think it's a worthy investment
of ten point six if it's going to prevent that
from happening. Apparently Maryland and oak Lahoma updated their cards
to include chip technology, but the federal government has not
rolled out a nationwide solution for skimming fraud. If this

(51:08):
is the solution, you ask yourself, why wouldn't the federal
government issue a mandate on that? Since you and I
the American taxpayers are shouldering the burden for a lot
of this hasn't passed the House Committee at this effort
to add chips or received a full House vote. However,
House Built one sixty three does have the support of
Ohio Council for Retail Merchants, the Ioassociation of Food Banks,

(51:32):
and several legal aid societies in Ohio. So if you're
worried about scamming, the following information has been passed along
to you. Check for a card skimmer. They often place
phony pin keypads over the original devices, sometimes using a
small camera to record the pin so loose protruding parts
could indicate foul play. I'd say, grab a hold of

(51:52):
that thing and jiggle it. Don't share your pin good
advice across the board and use card lock and alrics,
card lock and unlocked feature on the connect ebt application,
use alerts to notify you when the card is used.
So that's outstanding information. And hopefully very soon, as opposed
to later, we'll have this modern technology which can serve

(52:12):
prevent fraud, waste and abuse, so truly starving people can
actually get what they are entitled to under this SNAP
program six thirty six right now five one three seven
for see.

Speaker 9 (52:21):
The talk station.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Sixty one on a Tuesday, Happy one to you five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two
three talk to withe pound five fifty If you have
an AT and T phone, don't forget fifty five care
Sea dot com. Get your school closings and business closings.
Thanks to zimmerheating and air conditioning for that, it's up
and running. And yeah, your school's probably closed and you've
probably got a separate alert alert for that. What else

(52:45):
is going on? I thought this was kind of curious
in terms of local stories, since I only got one
or two in this morning. This seemed like a sort
of ready fire aim kind of thing going on in
downtown Cincinnati, since a City Council Budget and Finance Committee
and entertained a proposal yesterday in which restaurants, bars and

(53:05):
venues in just a certain segment of downtown would contribute
to the plan construction of the hotel that they're building
in the district, that five hundred and thirty six million
dollar hotel. So they got a figure for the construction
costs of the hotel, and apparently it's being built. So
the three CDC proposal would see businesses in the downtown

(53:27):
Fountain district that's the limited district, opt in, in other words,
voluntarily opt in to contribute one percent of every sale,
so penny on a dollar, which would go to the
construction of the new Marriotte Convention headquarters. Courting to Mark
Jeffery's council member, the owners of restaurants in and around

(53:47):
the convention center are essentially self taxing themselves. They're agreeing
that they are going to have a slight increase on
sales at the restaurant as a way to finance the
expansion for the hotel. You have one bar John hughes Er,
owner of the bar prem He said, well, this initiative
will allow our urban core to create the kinds of
programming that drives attendance and increases dwell time in downtown

(54:10):
activity boosts our local economy, also helping us build a safer,
more welcoming environment for everyone. I don't know how this
creates safety, but you're voluntaring to eat into your profit margin.
And I got to observe if you are a restaurant
tour I think you are painfully aware of the low
profit margin you have already. So if you're going to
voluntarily pay an additional tax, you know that's going to

(54:31):
be reflected in the price of whatever it is. Kind
of food you're selling by a penny on a dollar
doesn't seem like a lot of money. But what puzzled
me about this, and maybe someone out there is better
educated than men can explain. You got a project that's
already underway, it's five hundred and thirty six million dollars.
Now you're talking about a contribution to help fund it.

(54:51):
And what if nobody opts in on this. I mean,
they're going to be short on funds. I'm not sure
Jefferies thinks this is going to help expand and build
businesses in the area. I appreciate all the businesses willingness
to step forward as part of the process. It's a
very creative solution. As we think about growing our city,

(55:13):
this is one way to grow. I suppose Jeffrey said,
these are out of town visitors coming into Cincinnati. They'll
be eating dining in these restaurants, and in that process,
part of what they are paying for is a little
bit of upper in it. I don't know what that
means which will enable us to pay for the development

(55:33):
of the convention and Convention Center hotel. So again there's
that ready fire aim thing. Okay, if this proposal wasn't
there is that a suggestion they're going to be short
on funds and everybody, presumably within the city of Cincinnati's
going to benefit from this help. People in northern Kentucky
are going to benefit from it because if a lot
of people show up with the convention, there's a lot
of draw over in northern Kentucky for people to go

(55:54):
over there and spend their entertainment dollars. Which is the
weird thing about the city of Cincinnati. Button up against
the river. Congratulations to my friends in the Commonwealth. You
do get a lot of folks like at baseball and
football games, showing up in your local restaurants and businesses,
spending money, but not spending it in Hamilton County where
the taxpayers yes, foot the bill for the stadiums. But

(56:17):
curious proposal, it is from my perspective, six forty five
Feel free to chime in, maybe you got something different
to say. But six fifty to fifty five kr CD
talk station I mentioned in the first segment of the
fifty five Cars Morning Show, how pleased I was that
the social media was able to help that local couple

(56:37):
find their dog after their car with their dog had
been stolen. Lamented my childhood and the runaway dogs. Social
media wonderful thing, and I think using social media the
word got out here in the fifty five KRSY Morning
Show and the rest of my friends put the word
out in search of Tom, who normally calls in at
five point thirty worrying about him. Tom is on the phone, Tom,
Welcome to the morning show. Slept in dig.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
You yeah right, Hey, that driveway doesn't shovel itself. So yeah,
I've got a driveway that's a little over two hundred
feet long coming up from the street, so it take
it takes a minute to get it done. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, Joe, you don't believe me. All right, man,

(57:17):
I'll tell you what it's. I'm on a two hour delay,
but not because I slept in.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
So you need a gas powered snowplow or a snowplow
of some sort of underneath the Christmas tree this year, Tom.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Yeah, yeah, if you could fit one that'll fit on
the front of my lawn bower, that would be great.
And I could just a couple of swipes and I'm
done and yeah, something like that. So well, anyway, it's
a wonderful morning.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
You made it.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Chuck Inger will be pretty busy this morning, won't.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
He Well, he was late getting into work this morning.
Apparently he got held up on seventy one because of
the road conditions. So I'm not quite sure if they've
solved that problem yet. It was it was a mess
when I came in down seventy one.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Yeah, it's a I'm just now hitting two seventy five,
so we'll see how just goes. No, I may have
to turn around. But anyway, Uh, I've been wanting to
mention yesterday I didn't mention this because I was talking
about something else, but uh you know, I regularly mentioned
the gas prices up there and Cincinnati date Road seventy five,
and uh so, yesterday, before I got on the air,

(58:17):
I noticed that the prices were in the I get
two thirty nine. Both of the major gas stations right
there were two thirty nine, and uh so I think, well,
I'm getting gas on the way home. Hopefully they don't
go up. So I see the gas I see the
sign at Tylersville on the way back south and then
it jumped to two eighty nine. Crap. And so when
I get closer to Cincinnati Dayton Road, I noticed that

(58:40):
to sign for the speedway to eighty nine. And then
I said, oh man, I missed it. And sure sure enough,
that gas station across the street is still at two thirty.
It's actually drop the two thirty three. So I pulled
in there and fill her up, and I went inside
and I told the people, Hey, whoever's making the decision
to keep the gas prices down, tell them, I say,

(59:00):
thank you very much, And you got my business there,
you go. That's that's the way we gotta handle things.
We gotta we gotta shop around and and uh, you know,
obviously we don't want to get you know, get prapp
that's cheap, and you know, so we could pay pennies
for it. But you know, we got to be disserving
on what we're doing and not give into the price
hikes in the price couchy.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Well, it's smart business for that. You know, they're losing
some money per gallon of gas, but it's a draw
for people to come in and spend money on high
price stuff that's sold of convenience stores. So hopefully there's
some sort of balance there, but yeah, it could buy
them some loyalty. Hey, did you drive down Camargo and
see what they're Our favorite gas station is.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
No, it's not quite on the way home, Brian, but
I'm guessing it's still pushing four bucks.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Probably four fifty in California, something like that.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
I will tell you that that at QT gas station
was pretty busy, and uh they had a few people
over at the speedway, but it was pretty busy. There
were people inside, like you said, buying stuff inside. So yeah,
they wouldn't be doing it. They weren't gonna make money.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
This morning's low per gallon price is The award went
to Cribbage Mike Submarine or Mike, who paid two dollars
and ten cents using his Kroger card.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got a we got a
buck fifty or something that we got a dollar and
then another fifty cent for for November that we got
to use. So I'm looking forward to that. That'll that's
always good when you can take a buck off. So cool.
Good morning to Cribbage Mike and all the other listeners
and uh uh, we we're all hoping and praying that
we get the convention center gets done before the before

(01:00:33):
reds fest reds fast as what January thirteenth, something like that,
thinks so and uh, yeah, it's gonna be tight. I
tell you that it's gonna be tight where they're down
there working seven days. Wait so yeah, yeah, Hey, if
it ain't tight, it ain't right. I'll talk for God
letter don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Even though it had nothing to the political comments aside,
there's no politics involved in that statement. Accept to the
extent you want to give Donald Trump credit for all
the above strategy and drilling where drilling can be done.
I'll ultimately get the gas price lowered. Going back to
my comments about Europe cutting their own throat in the

(01:01:12):
name of eliminating bland food and the fun fact that
it was real in the gasoline I revealed the gasoline article.
That's why I mentioned California the highest gasoline price in
the country at north of four dollars and fifty cents
a gallon. Why. Because of the regulatory structure they have
in place. This is not the laws of supply and demand.
Gas is not naturally more expensive in California. It's more

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expensive in California from what they did to themselves intentionally,
so their people are feeling pain. Elections have consequences, and
they keep doing the same thing over and over again.
I guess they must all be wealthy in California can
afford to go ahead and spend four to fifty a
gallon when at least here locally we can get it

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right around two dollars and fifty cents and maybe even less.
I like it here better six point fifty five fifty
five K City Talk Stations Citizen Watchdog Todd Zinzer will
be in studio. We'll talk about the Cincinnati scrap lead
pipe scandal, the Cincinnati snap in wick programs, and unregulated
group homes among those topics with Todd Zinzer brilliant he
is will be in the studio. Coming up next to

(01:02:13):
hope you can stick around.

Speaker 9 (01:02:14):
Today's top headlines cock Station.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Seven HO six Here a bit about Nanna Cy detalk
station careful one you're commute in and good luck trying
to get that Cincinnati snowplow tracker app to work. So
far it's not working. Brand new rolled out yesterday. Maybe
Todd's Zenzra will comment about that in studio. Our citizen
Watchdog and God blessed Todd Zenzer for who he is

(01:02:56):
and what he does for the city of Cincinnati, whether
you like, whether you like the council or not, Todd
zends Aer is at least paying close attention to the
Shenanigans going on and got a couple of Shenanigans declarations
to declare this morning. Todd Endser's Citizen Watchdog is the
name of his podcast. I strongly encourage you to listen
to what Todd Zenser has to say because some of
the details he reveals, well, it's enlightening. Maybe you put

(01:03:21):
a soft touch on that word. Todd Zenzer. It's great
to have you in the studio and thanks again for
all that you do for the city, whether they like
you or not.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Thank you. Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Well, we'll talk about the upcoming Todd's Zenser nonprofit and
where that may go, and Lord knows we'll need that one.
Don't expect todds Zendser's nonprofit to be a NGO included
in government funding from the City of Cincinnati, though, you're
not expecting that when it happens.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
No, yeah, I don't think I'll do that, and if
I did, I'm not sure that I would get a
grant from the city.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Probably not, but at least you wouldn't be a mayor
sitting on a board of directors for a nonprofit that
does get Cincinnati taxpayer dollars, which is verbot isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Todd Well, I think it's I think it's improper, And
you know, I've been trying to get some attention to that.
I've written to the mayor and recommended that he do
something about it, and that was back in September. Oh,
he didn't get back with you, and I haven't heard
back from him, So I've got to try to elevate
that somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, that sounds me like something that's old. I don't know,
some attorney might want to take on a pro bonum basis.
I know there's a lot of attorneys out there to
like to sue the city for things like this. Anyway,
we'll get to that toward the tail end here. Let
us begin with the lead pipe scandal. We had talked
about this previously. We're in the process of logically removing
lead pipes from the water infrastructure. Correct, Yes, and that's

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we've been under order to do that. It's part of
the environmental cleanup process. That's going on multi billion dollar process,
that is. But I certainly understand the need to get
rid of lead pipe. It's obviously a problem. It causes
brain deficiencies and just in functions, and so it needs
to go out. The problem is how they're going about
removing it ran into a little bit of problem, did

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we Toddzenser.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Right, it's a it's an important program, which which makes
oversight of the program that much that more critical. And
what they what the internal auditor for the city found
several months ago, is that there was a problem with
the scrap lead not being properly recycled, and they had

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set up a regimen in the process where once the
lead pipes were removed, they were supposed to be deposited
into a container down at waterworks headquarters. And the auditor
found out that that that container and the recycle outfit
that they contracted with would come and service that container,

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they'd replace it and take the full container to recycling.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
So there was a contractor that was retained to take
away the lead pipe. That's correct, all right, So city
employees working on the we're working on the removal, right, correct. Okay,
I just want to make sure because there's outside entities,
and then there's people that are subject to the direct
oversight of the City of Cincinnati. They had they had

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a lead crew, So you have a lead crew. Lead
crew takes the pipe, puts it in this specialized dumpster,
and then there's a specialized specific company retained to remove it.
That's the way it's supposed to work, and I guess
it didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Well. The internal auditor found that the container had not
been serviced for five years, which means that no lead
pipe had ever been deposited into the container.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Uhhh Okay, now walking through this and I can see
where this is going, and you can certainly can explain it.
But if it had not been serviced for five years,
this company that was retained and contracted to service it,
as we're calling the process of removing the leg from
the container, did they at any time say, Hey, we've
been driving by this lead container receptacle we're supposed to

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be removing lead pipe from and it's never had any
lead pipe in it. Did any that word ever get
through to anyone responsible?

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
I believe there's some email traffic to that effect, really,
but it came very late. Oh it came I believe
closer to when the audit was being conducted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Oh so maybe when word got out there was an
audit being done, and so they said, oh oh. But
by the way, it seems to be an important question.
Was the company that was retained to take care of
this receptacle and the lead pipe therein were they being
paid all along during this five year period where they
apparently didn't have to do any work.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Well, they have a bigger contract, I believe in the
city and this was just part of it, okay, and
so that's a yes, I think to my question. Well,
they were getting paid for the other services that they
were performing under the contract.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
But this wasn't a separate line item charge on monthly
basis from the company. Was just included in one lump
payment to the company. That's that's a yes to my question.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
That's my understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
So it should have been something less than the monthly
amount because they didn't have to do any work in
connection with removing the lead pipe.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
There they were they were triggered by a phone They
were supposed to be triggered by a phone call. Somebody's
supposed to call them and say, hey, our container is full,
you need to come and get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Oh, Okay, so never having gotten a phone call, that's right.
Let's go ahead and continue to accept the money that
we got lump sum. All right. So then phase two
is or question number two. So they're not doing the
job because there isn't a job to do. Where in
the hell the lead pipe go?

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Todd Zinser, Well, that's my my question, Brian. They did
a They did a good thing by focusing on the
theft of the lead pipe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
They aught it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Yeah, they identified one person that they claim was responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
So facilitating the how did how did the scam work?
Because again we're talking about city employees removed moving the
lead pipe team, so it was someone on the lead
pipe team that was identified as being involved in this scam,
that's right. So what was happening to the lead Well,
the way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
I understand it is that the employee, instead of putting
it in the container, it would be loaded in a truck,
and instead of putting it in the container, they they
he had some kind of designated spot where he would
drop it off based on some prior arrangement with us.
These local scrappers that drive their truck around and and

(01:09:35):
pick up stuff from the curb that people put out right,
he had some prior arrangement with scrappers, telling them where
to go get it and they would pay. They would
pay him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Now, are scrappers subject to some sort of rules, legal
laws or rules of ethics? I mean, because the scrapper
might not have ethics, I don't know. No, do they
have an obligation to, you know, report what they've picked up, because, yeah,
you and I were talking off air, lead is considered
a hazardous substance.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Well, that's what That's what I've been focusing on. But
I don't think the scrappers have any any other obligation,
you know, to the city, or any kind of legal obligation.
But that ought to be the subject of a further investigation,
which which the city is not doing well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Let's say I have a load of lead pipe for
whatever reason, it was not obtained unlawfully, but I've got
to get rid of it. I take it to a
local scrapyard. I can sell it to them because they
weigh by the pound and it does have some value
for the scrapyard. That's why they pay for it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I'm not going to get as much as they get
for dealing with whoever they sell it. To so in
this particular arrangement, was it ever revealed what this one
loan individual who has identified what his slice of the
action was, and was he actually getting paid by the
scrap guy for the price of the lead or some
flat amount or something.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
I think he tried to tell the city that it
was only once in a while and at was bunnies
when he was short on his monthly bills or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I only kill people every once in a while. I
don't need to hold me account will under the law.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
But there really is not a big comprehensive investigation of
the extent of the issue. My question right now is
where is the lead? Because if it is a hazardous
waste and there is a test that they have to
perform on the pipe to determine whether or not it

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reaches the threshold of a hazardous waste, there's a federal
law and a state law about a requirement to designate
or determine whether or not a solid waste is hazardous
or not. And there's no indication at this point whether

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they've made whether they ever made a determination like that.
So I have asked for any records that would show
the determination, whether they did the determination and if they
did what it says about those lead pipes. So it's
really an open question right now. And the reason I
started looking into it the executives from the water work

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were interviewed on TV by WCPO and they're you know,
they're sorry and et cetera, and they're going to do better.
But they didn't really seem concerned about this missing around
accounted for lead pipe. And it seems to me that
there's a big potential environmental issue there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Well, clearly that, but then again, this is simply a
question also of like theft. Yes, yeah, okay, let's pause.
We'll bring todds Inzer back a little bit more on
that one. Plus we'll talk about the SNAP and WIG
programs and CINCINNTI plus unregulated group homes seven sixteen. Right now,
if you five KRCD talk station, you have an imported
code talk station seven twenty here. If you five KRCD

(01:12:55):
talk station, Brian Thomas with Citizen watch Dog. That's the
name of the podcast, and that's who he is. He
is Todd Zinzer, former Inspector General for the United States
of America. He understands documents, he understands obligations, he understands
well the legal realities and the challenges we face as
city taxpayers. I'll use we even though I don't live
in the city, following the money and seeing if work

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was actually done, pursuing the contracts, and when we have
run when we run into problems, finding out where those
problems lead. In this particular case, the lead pipe scandal.
So as you set it up, we're removing the lead pipe. Good.
That's good. It goes to a receptacle that's supposed to
store the lead pipe. Fine, a company is hired to
remove that lead pipe, they're supposed to receive a phone

(01:13:38):
call when the receptacles full. They never got a phone
call because the receptacle remained empty for five years. Where
did the lead pipe go? Big question? One person apparently
on the team of lead pipe removal, a city employee,
has been identified as someone who was involved in the
removal of the lead pipe and putting it someplace else
for some yet unknown company scrap dealer person to remove it,

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probably to their financial advantage. Yes, so, fine, question, is
lead pipe dangerous? Hazardous? I think we can agree it
is if they had to remove it in the first place.
I presume it passes the lead pipe scrape test that
they have to do. There were the police alerted, this
is the theft, and I'm imagining Todd, you can correct

(01:14:24):
me if I'm wrong. The money that you get, like
if you took it to the scrapyard yourself, they'll give
you a handful of cash in return for how much
the lead weighs. Whatever the charity get ten cents a
pound or whatever. That's taxpayer money that should have gone
back into the city. Coffers. I presume if it had
all gone according to contract.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
That's right. Under the contract, the recycling outfit or the
outfit that took it to the recycler, the city was
supposed to get a cut of those proceeds. So for
five years, whatever they would have gained is lost, and
that number has not being calculated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
And how could it be calculated unless the guys that
were responsible for removing it in the first place, the
city employees wait it first.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
That's right. But the tell is in their corrective actions
to the audit. They list out all the things they
plan to do to fix the situation, and those are
the things that they should have been doing in the outset.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Seem right, Now you're in my wheelhouse of late how
I mean, I keep referring apologies to my listeners. They
know what I'm going to say. But they've had always
talks about these Internet of Things devices that the software
manufacturers never consider security first and foremost. They rush the
product out and don't realize it's filled with holes and bucks. Right,
they're not thinking about it. Why do our elected officials,

(01:15:46):
Why are they not charged with on some level like
a fiduciary obligation to the taxpayers they take the money
from to put fraud, waste, and abuse and the prevention
of that first and foremost in any program like this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Well, you're you're singing my tune.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I know. That's why I love you so much, todd Senser.
So what are they now proposing now that they found
out we're all being ripped off?

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
Well, they want to keep records of how much how
much lead pipe they remove and how much they how
much copper they install, which is which is another issue here,
huge money. There's nothing in the there's nothing in any
of the reports that I saw that the auditor did
a report, and the waterworks did their own internal investigation.

(01:16:30):
And for me, if somebody stealing lead pipe scrap lead pipe.
Chances are they may have their eyes also on the
copper inventory.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Oh you're damn right, because it's as so as copper
is exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
And so my point was you got to go over
and check your inventory of copper to see whether or
not that's been stolen as well. They just don't think
like that, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
They don't because they don't care a whit where the
money comes from, and because they can take all they want,
apparently they don't need to follow it like you or
I would in our household.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Yeah, the big question for me is do they not
pay attention deliberately because they don't they don't want to
point out things going wrong in their processes or are
they just not, you know, in tune with oversight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Can I boil it down nefarious or stupid? Well, something
like that, Yeah, that's what it is. I'll put a
blunt point on it right there, DoD Genser, and I'm
going to go for a combination of all the above.
The nefarious ones don't want their program to be criticized.
It's their program. They didn't think about fraud, wasted abuse
at the outset. And the stupid are the ones that
maybe realizes has happened and just don't want to lift

(01:17:41):
a finger to solve the problem because oh that means
extra work.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
Yeah, so five of the led one one of the
lead crew resigned and five of the lead crew were
reprimanded for being dishonest. But in that situation, yeah, the
first thing I would do is go check the copper inventory.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Reprimanded, Yes, for being dishonest. That's a soft way of
saying reprimanded for committing a crime. At least that's what
it appears to be.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
They either didn't want to or they couldn't establish the
culpability of the other members of the lad crew.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
You know, in a world filled with cameras, I mean
you go back to the inventory, Like, where is our
copper inventory sitting right now? Todd Zenzer? Do you think
there are cameras that are constantly focused on that stack
of copper and other building materials that they're using for
the various city works projects.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
I'd be surprised if that was the case.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Brian, Well, there's one more thing they can add to
the list.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Now, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Todd Zenzer will bring it back. We got more controversies
snapping Wick programs group homes, aftab purvols, sitting on boards
of directors for nonprofits that the city taxpayers are funding,
among other things that Todd Zenzer Citizen Watchdog has revealed.
Because no one in city council or within the city
government wants to bother to lift a finger to find
out where your money's being spent seven twenty six right

(01:18:59):
now see the talk station kate Eavansk station seven thirty
here or fifty five KRCE the talk station. Real pleasure
as always having Todd Zinzer's Citizen Watchdog in studio, and
thank you Kevin, my dear friend Kevin. There's actually an
app out there, Todd, I scrap. We're talking about this
lead pipe situation with kind of pondering how much a

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pound of lead might be worth. It's a thirty two
cents a pound time. I imagine it ended up being
a whole lot of money. They were pulling out a
lot of old lead pipe.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
Yes, thousands of residents have had their lead pipe replaced
with copper pipe, thousands, thousands. It's been going on for
five or six years, and it's going to go on
for another I don't know how many, three, three to
five more years.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
I think all right, so they don't weigh when they
pull it out. It disappeared before it got to the
appropriate receptacle bin. Someone obviously absconded with a whole lot
of money. Whoever the scrap person was that took that
lead pipe away is more than if you can get
thirty two cents a pound on the open market, then
they're getting more than that from to wherever they sell it,
A point I made earlier. How else could a scrapyard
stay in business? Right, So they're making fat bank and we,

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under the contract with the people who were supposed to
be removing this, we the city taxpayers, are supposed to
get some of this money back. So when you're talking
thirty two cents a pound with thousands and thousands of homes,
that has got to add up to a lot of money.
I agree it could reach felony level money, todd oh easily.

(01:20:33):
So makes me wonder. You know why law enforcement hasn't
been brought in and involved in this, because you know,
convicted criminals who engage in this type of criminal activity
or quite often obligated to pay restitution to the victims.
That's correct, but no criminal referral. Although you're mentioned in

(01:20:53):
the emails that they did give you back in requests
in your request for documents. Yes, the congratulations gods, he's
in city side right now and it's a good thing.
So they were aware that you were looking into this,
and they actually had an internal email saying, hey, Todd
Zinzer's looking into this issue. In other words, beware because
this guy will be all over us like white on Rice.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Well that wasn't in the email, but something so something
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Yeah, any profanities, you can't stay on the radio. No,
all right, well, let's tell you what You're not done
with this one. And I don't know, I don't know
what the steps are to get law enforcement involved, but
I think this certainly rises to a level of, you know,
a crime worthy of investigation. I suppose it remains a

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large and looming question, given the relationship between the mayor
and the city manager and their parent control over the
operations of the CINCINNT Police Department, if the CINCINNT Police
Department was referred to this, whether or not they would
actually follow through and do something that might put a
stain on the administration's reputation.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Yes, and the issue is going to be for the
city well, should we spend money getting to the bottom
of this when it's only going to make us look
even worse.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
So, oh, yes, it'd be responsible thing to do, regardless
of how bad it makes you look. You obviously have
learned your lesson. You have new practices and protocols you're
putting in place to ensure that this thing doesn't happen again.
We learn from our mistakes, We're moving forward. We're going
to watch out and be responsible. And by the way,
we're doing everything in our effort to get that money
back on behalf of these city taxpayers.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Yes, and they need to address the environmental issue created
by these strap lead pipes, isn't purval mister Green, Well,
that's the thing that it's not really climate change, it's
more environmental.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
So, in other words, real pollutants and real environmental problems
versus carbon dioxide.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Yeah, okay, they should be more concerned about these lead
this scrap lead being dumped somewhere and not being recycled
and getting into the water supply, which is ironic here
that a water department is going to be so careless
with scrap lead pipe in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
The bottom of the mill creek. Yeah, although I think
we can all safely presume or assume if you want,
that it was actually sold out there, because this does
have fat bank on the open market, right, so hopefully
it's not in some place doing environmental.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
And it went to a proper recycler.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Yeah. Now, how many recyclers are there in the greater
Cincinnati area.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
I haven't counted that, but there probably are not too many,
not too many couple, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
So you could just go to each of the very
few scrap dealers and have a direct question answer with
them about whether they bought any lead pipe. Yeah, you
just go out and do some interviewing. Yeah, be very simple.
It would be the logical thing to do, Todd. Well,
they'll maybe they'll wind up doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
The alternative is for the federal EPA or the Ohio
EPA coming in and already asking questions.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
You anticipated my next question, Todd. Also, I was wondering,
isn't this really kind of assumed or part of a
federal project to clean.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Up all the lead Well, there's a there's a federal
law called the Recovery and Conservation the the I can't
remember the name of It's called Rickra Recovery Conservation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Well, listen, they called the inflation reduction acting inflation reduction.
I had nothing to do with inflation reduction, So call
it what you will. It's supposed to deal.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
With pretty it's a pretty serious, very long Yeah. We
worked with it when I was at DOT on hazardous
transportation issues. We even prosecuted American Airlines back in the
nineties for their their poor handling of hazardous material on
their aircraft.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
So they're really well connected, lobby heavy kind of money
and interest group there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
Back then. The penalty was we negotiated was eight million dollars,
but in and that was just for several containers, and
their lacks processes got them a fine at that level.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
So maybe this simple fact that it's all gone missing
and is totally unaccounted for would be sufficient information to
launch a federal investigation into this Rick potential Rick revilation. Right, well, okay,
there's some astute you know us attorney out there, maybe
listening to the program might take it upon him or
herself to go and do just that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Well, it would be a worthwhile doing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
I believe, I'm with sure one hundred percent todds Ends
will continue. Yes, we'll get to this Nappenwig program next
Don't Go Away seven thirty six, seven thirty seven fifty
five care Seage Shay seven forty one fifty five KRCD
Talk Station Enlightening. It always is when you're talking with
todds Enzer about city council and city affairs. We have

(01:25:51):
been all morning so far talking about this lead pipe
scandal and criminal activity it relates to. And why don't
we see somebody being charged with crime for stealing lead pipe?
Maybe that'll happened, but let us pivot over to something else.
It may very well be criminals. The Cincinnati SNAP and
WIC programs supplement of Nutrition's assistance program is a snap
card and then you have Women, Infants and Children program.

(01:26:13):
That one's been around since what the forties or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Wick's been around since Nixon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Nixon. Okay, all right, thought it might have been a
great society. Well, it doesn't matter. So two different programs. Yes,
who is supposed to run these and how is it
run well? Or are they run?

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Snap and WICK are both funded through the county in
their county programs. For example, the county administers SNAP administer's Medicaid.
There's a couple of other safety net programs that the
county operates. But when WICK was first put in place
by the federal government, the requirements were such, this is

(01:26:54):
my understanding anyway, that there was some kind of medical
professionals or whatever that were required to be involved in
the program for because of nursing mothers and things like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
That, to verify eligibility. And that apparently is not the
case anymore. I could sign up for WICK. Now it's
probably so easy to get around yet whatever oversight they
might have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Yeah. So, but for some reason, and at the time,
the city Health Department was it, so they took they
took responsibility for the program. Well, now forty or however,
many fifty years later, the city is still operating it.
And the internal audit auditor did an audit of the
WICK program and identified a lot of mismanagement.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
So we go ahead and cut to the chase on
what mismanagement they identified.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Well, the programs operated out of ten different offices I
guess of the health district, and the auditor looked at
six of those offices and found that they were not
keeping track of their EBT card inventory. So, for example,
somebody working at the Health Department and the program, they

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go and go to inventory and grab a stack of
fifty EBT cards that they're going to work with that
day or that week, or however long it takes to
use fifty EBT cards. And then they meet with the
constituent and figure out what benefits they're entitled to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
WICK recipient is the constituent, Yes, So they sit down
with that person.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Yes, and they determine what their eligibility is in terms
of how much benefit they're entitled to, and then they
charge up the card just like you go to the
grocery store and get a gift cards.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
They get an Apple gift card shirt exactly and then
hand it to them and then hand it to them
or or well, we don't.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
There's no inventory of the cards.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
No inventory of the cards, which means someone of nefarious
intent could grab a stack of cards loaded up with
literally anybody's name and information on it, charge it to
any given amount that would be within the parameters of
the WIG program.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
And put it in their pocket exactly. So that could
have been going on exactly for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
So they have no tracking of the WICK card inventory
period in the story that was.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
The result of the finding of the audit. That's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Well, I feel real comfortable about that one.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Todd, Well, my suggestion was, aside from the mismanagement, why
don't you just give that program back to the county
who's got experience doing snaps, got experience doing other safety
net programs, and the city doesn't really need the headaches.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
And it would relieve the city taxpayers of the burden
of that. Many employees, however, many are working on the
WICK card program, right.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Yes, the money comes from the federal government to the
county and then to the city. You would eliminate the
city's role in.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
That, But then that would eliminate political patronage jobs to
run the WIK program. They would have that many fewer
bodies to award jobs to.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Todd, Yeah, I think they'd probably be able to find. Well,
I think that being involved in these kind of things
in the past and the federal government, you'd just basically
take the employees working on WICK and move them to
the county payroll and be done with it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Well, that's an extraordinarily simple, logical and reasonable solution, Todd Zenzer.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
It could be done.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Yeah, any interest that you can find down in the
City of Cincinnati and the employees that they might want
to go that direction.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Well, That was part of my comments yesterday at the
Budget and Finance Committee. I talked about both of these
audits and that I did suggest that to the city
council whether they'll pay attention.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
No, they were paying with their were cell phones, weren't they?
I mean, do you feel do you feel like it's
a pointless gesture to show up and make these awesome
points that could benefit literally everyone and even improve their
political standing by getting on top of a problem that's
obviously a problem they just got made aware of. But
listening to what you have to say as opposed to
playing with your cell phone.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Well I do. I did sense that they were paying
more attention than they usually do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Well, that's because they know you have their number. Hey,
you get emails circulated about you behind the scenes down there, man,
you know you're having an impact. We'll bring back Todd
Zenzer for one more cover Senci though, is a great
thing to do is call it call care CD Talk
Station Insightscoop with Creik Bart News after the top of
the hour, News followed by the Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
In the meantime, Citizen Watchdog todds Zenzer, former US Attorney,

(01:31:28):
former US Attorney General on these audits. And I've got
to go back to the audits really quick, because we
started with the audit of the lead pipe issue, right,
an internal audit of the wick snap problem that you
just explain and wonderfully so those I was surprised to
even know that the audits were done, because you do
an audit, you're going to find problems. But there are

(01:31:49):
there is an obligation under the audit standards for the
auditors to follow through if they find something wrong along
the lines of what you just explained to us. Correct
right there, because where would it go if there wasn't
something some follow through?

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
That's right. The general it's called the Generally Accepted Government
Auditing Standards, and they say that if the auditor identifies
indications of fraud, they've got to run that down. They
got to determine, you know, the extent of the problem
or whether there truly is a fraud problem. And the
internal audit manager, I'm not trying to be critical, but

(01:32:24):
they don't take that step for some reason, probably a
manpower or they're being told by their management.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
You know, there can't be a manpower issue, because if
they're obligated under law to apply these standards and do
the follow through. Then you have no choice but to
hire people to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Yeah. The the solution for the auditor is not to
cite those standards when they issue their reports.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
But they do anyway. They do anyway, so they cite
them and that gives them protection even though they didn't
follow the standards. That's right, Okay, great, No, they tied.
By the way, the new mobile app to the snowplow
tracker app that the city rolled out, it's not working.
That's surprising, all right, So anything get the other component

(01:33:11):
of this wik card problem again, not keeping track of
the inventory of wick cards and not keeping the appropriate
records all sounds to me like it's riddle with fraud
and abuse, or at least potentially so. You mentioned also
that they have an obligation to keep track of equipment
purchase to run this program, like the computers and other

(01:33:33):
hardware that's needed to implement it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
That's right. The program gets about three point five million
dollars a year and that's used for benefits plus the
operation of the office, including or purchase of equipment, so
that equipment is basically federally funded. As a result, they've
got to keep a proper inventory, and the audit found

(01:33:56):
that that was not happening, So you'd have to go
back and construct, you know, what equipment has been purchased
and is it still here? That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
So if you're not doing oversight of the equipment and
you have the authority under this program to purchase and
acquire equipment, some let's say nefarious actor might say, oh,
my kids need laptops or Christmas, order the equipment under
the WICK program and then just take it home with
you exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
That that's the risk. Uh huh Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Todd's answer just scraping the tip of the iceberg in
terms of all the problems he's identified. And you've got
document requests out for this, I suppose at some point,
I mean, is there some sort of legal you know,
can some Kurt Hartman out there in the world final
lawsuit over this stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
Yet? You know, it's I'm sure it's possible. It's just
a matter of whether or not you can gather the
resources to pay for something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Well, it usually starts as a Freedom of Information Act
requests which they have to honor, and when they don't
honor it, that's how you end up in court, getting
the documents you need, which then will serve as the
basis for the lawsuit you ultimately file your file because
they didn't follow protocols or otherwise found breaches of the law, etc.
That's right, all right, Kurt, get on it. Todd'll be

(01:35:19):
happy to help you on to that end. I mentioned
a nonprofit. You're working toward establishing the purpose of that.
If you get it going, will be well.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
It's got a couple of different purposes. One is to
establish some way to sue the city, because if you
look back at the real reforms that have gone on
in Cincinnati has been the result of federal lawsuits or
other lawsuits. The city does not do these things voluntarily.

(01:35:49):
And so one objective is to establish an organization that
would take the lead in litigation against the city. For
give you a standard purposes exactly. And then the other
is to elevate or bring greater visibility to the whole
oversight issue. The city has no concept of oversight. It's

(01:36:13):
just not part of their constitution. And that's needed. I mean,
they've got a two billion dollar budget, and they've got
a four person internal auditor that is kept basically on
a leash they need some oversight mechanism like an inspector
general that many many cities across the country have in

(01:36:36):
order to deliver a oversight program.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Wow. And if I had to speculate, since we're out
of time on who is holding that leash, I have
to imagine it's the city manager. Yes, all right, there
you go. We've had issues with her before, haven't we, Toddzinser,
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Will Interest rates be coming down? Welcome back, John Carney.

(01:38:18):
It's a pleasure having you on the program sir.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 10 (01:38:22):
You just sent me on the nostalgia trip all the
stuff I've done over the years. That was great.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Hard to believe how time has flown, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
John?

Speaker 10 (01:38:30):
It really is incredible, you know, When I started this,
we were just going into the two thousand and eighth
financial crisis, and you know, here we are just and
it seems like we never run out of crises, kept
being business.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Well we're on that note, John Kearney, isn't that sort
of kind of intentional? I mean, I've been doing radio.
Next year is my twentieth year on radio. But I've
been following politics since I was like sixteen years old.
Reagan's second election was when I really got engaged in politics,
and I've never turned back. It was a topic of
conversation and at the dinner table. I've really been engaged

(01:39:06):
for my entire life. So it's always been crisis. I mean,
part of I think part of the reality, Well, this
is the idea, is we always kept in a mentality
of crisis mode. You know, the world's going to end,
We're all going to die, the market's going to crash,
the market's going to go up, and you know, we
don't follow up to find out, well was that prediction
true from last year. It's just once they announced these
terrible headlines that we move on and go about with

(01:39:28):
our lives. Should we ever feel like we're in crisis?

Speaker 10 (01:39:32):
Yeah, no, that's a great point. Look, one of the
things that's definitely true is that the media has predicted
just about eight out of the last two crisises, meaning
there is constantly a crisis, you know, on the horizon
or actually happening. I remember the first Trump administration. We

(01:39:53):
were told constantly that we were going to have inflation
because of the terroriffts he put on China, and I
covered that every month in and out all three of
the major inflation reports that the government produces, and there
was no inflation. And it really wasn't until the pandemic
struck that finally started, when people were distracted by a

(01:40:15):
real crisis, that the media started to admit, oh, okay,
you know, we were wrong. There was no inflation because.

Speaker 7 (01:40:22):
Of the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
But there was inflation because of the Inflation Reduction Act
and the COVID nineteen response money and the trillions of
dollars that were thrown into the economy from printed dollars
that watered down the value of our currency.

Speaker 10 (01:40:35):
That's right. And they said that inflation wouldn't happen. They
so they predicted the inflation that didn't happen would happen.
And the prediction and they predicted that the inflation that
actually did happen was the worst in forty years. They
you know, wasn't really happening. And by the way, we'd
go away almost immediately. Here we are five years later
and we're still dealing with it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
The pesky reality of inflation is while the inflation rate
can go up or down, as the case may be.
I mean, I'm old enough to remember the seventies when
we had stagflation, but the prices never really go down.
I mean, you see it two percent increase in inflation
and you've been struggling with seven or eight percent inflation.
It's like, I'm never going to see say, two dollars

(01:41:19):
ninety nine cent per pound beef again. I'm never going
to see a bag of chips that actually has sixteen
ounces in it for three ninety nine as opposed to
the twelve ounces you get for three ninety nine. It
just doesn't come down, that's right.

Speaker 10 (01:41:30):
The prices don't come down. The most you can hope
for is that you have low inflation for a few years,
which may sort of bring you back on track. But
the truth is that once you have a period of
high inflation, as you said, you jump up nine percent.
Then even if you get normal levels of inflation around

(01:41:51):
two percent after that, you're permanently at a higher price
level than you should be. You can hope that you
can grow the economy a way that lets wages catch
up with that, but that takes a very long time. Basically,
and this is a I hate to have to deliver
this bad news to people, but we are permanently, because

(01:42:12):
of the irresponsibility of the Biden administration and Howells Fed
during those years, we are permanently stuck at a high
price level that is not going to feel right, at
least for another ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
You're going to.

Speaker 10 (01:42:27):
Feel You're still going to feel sticker shocked when you
walk into a store, or order a meal at a restaurant,
or try to buy tickets to something. Prices are going
to feel too high for quite a while, all.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Right, Now, If John Corney was chairman of the FED,
and you could turn back the tables of time to say, right,
when Biden got elected, I mean we had three percent
mortgage rates at the time, roughly, right, I mean that
was extraordinarily low. And I have to say out loud,
my listeners have been listening to me for a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
But when my wife and I first bought our house,
this was nineteen ninety one and we were living in
oak Park, Illinois, that's where we bought the house. Anyway,
I had to pay three points to buy down to
an eight and one to eight percent interest rate on
a on a seven twenty three balloon. That's I mean, I'm,
you know, crime a River at six percent. I understand
it's double what it was a few years ago, but

(01:43:17):
I mean six percent still seems within the realm of reality.
That's the big thorn in a lot of people's side
that they got so used to these really low interest rates.
The economy was kind of booming, real estate market was booming.
Would you have raised the interest rates back then? Is
that a failure of the FED back then?

Speaker 10 (01:43:34):
Yes? The first thing I think they should have done
is made it clear that if the Biden administration went
ahead with its plans to spend trillions, that this would
be inflationary and that the FED would try to offset
this by raising rates. Look, the FED can't control you know,
Joe Biden's spending programs, but they can do the opposite.

(01:43:55):
What they did instead, what they did is they sent
the all clear message to Joe Biden to go ahead,
spend your trillions and we will not interfere. We won't
raise rates, we will not make it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
So that we will not try to offset this at all.

Speaker 10 (01:44:12):
And that's what set off the wild inflation. I think
if the FED had been less complicit in the Biden
administration's reckless spending, if they had just even signaled that
they were going to offset it, it probably would have
made Biden back off a little bit, and then that
we would have had far less inflation. Instead, they worked
hand in hand. That was a disaster and we got

(01:44:34):
this crazy inflation. So they should have told Biden not
to do it, and if he went ahead and did it,
then yes, they should have raised rates much earlier. And
they should have never said that the inflation was transitory.
That was that in itself signaled to the market, to businesses,
to consumers that the Fed wasn't on top of things,
that they were going to let inflation get out of control,

(01:44:56):
and they did.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Well, this is, you know, directly tied to the bond market.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Correct, That's absolutely right.

Speaker 10 (01:45:03):
Look, part of the thing is that when the government
is deficit spending like crazy and the FED starts to
raise interest rates. It actually then makes the FEDS the
government's borrowing more expensive, right, and they didn't want to
do that. It raises the deficit even more. And so
they were trying to help Biden by letting him do

(01:45:24):
all this deficit spending while being able to borrow cheap.
That was a disaster. They should not have been complicit with.
They really needed to be. You know, people talk about
FED independence all the time. The FED lost its independence
during the early Biden administration. They instead became an agent

(01:45:45):
of the Biden administration. And that was a that had
disastrous results, which is exactly what we would think would
happen when they become the agent of a you know,
a pre spending political regime.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Well, in this spending free for all, in this full
low interest rate was all supported by and covered up
and masked by the whole Oh my god, COVID nineteen.
We're all gonna die, right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (01:46:12):
Look, they kept it it. So it made a lot
of sense, especially early on in the pandemic when they
were ordering businesses to close and they basically we're freezing
the economy, to say, okay, well we're going to fight
some of the downturn with.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Very low interest rates.

Speaker 10 (01:46:32):
But as soon as we started to reopen things, which
means just a few months into this thing, right, they
should have said, Okay, we can back off of the
ultra low interest rates. We don't need to send out
more stimulus checks. People were flooding into restaurants in places
they could with the relief of thank god, I can

(01:46:53):
go out again. And yet we were still sending stimulus
checks to people, and the Fed was still holding interest
rates at near zero. That was a bad combination.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Bad combination, and like all government programs, ready fire aim
replete with fraud, waste, and abuse because no one cared
where the money was going, and it went out to
a bunch of nefarious actors. Sorry for interjecting that, John Carney,
but this kind of thing has been driving me more
crazy of late than I think it ever has in
my life, as all these programs are revealed for the
fraud riddled programs that they are. Now Tonight's conversation, it's

(01:47:25):
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will interest rates be coming down? Thinking of those that
have been priced out of the homeowner market, I don't
think the housing availability is ever going to increase, at

(01:47:47):
least not in the near term. John, So what impact
or what effect? First off, do you think the rates
will be coming down? What are the indicators that would
suggest the Fed might lower them? Or might the Fed
just leave things status quo? Which is kind of the
position I think I'm leaning toward, at least if I
had to read tea leaves but no financial expert of mine.

Speaker 10 (01:48:06):
So I think the Fed very likely maybe cutting at
the meeting in December, but then they are not going
to cut for probably the rest of Powell's tenure as
FED chairman. That means he leaves in May, so we
may get one more cut. Then the Fed will sit

(01:48:26):
tight and see how that goes through the economy. I
don't think that will do very much for the interest
rates that matter. Remember, the FED target's a very short
term interest rate. The rates that matter are built off
of that, but they're really built up what investors think
the path of interest rates will be. So if the

(01:48:48):
FED signals it's going to sit tight for longer. That
will keep interest rates higher. I'm not sure, and I'll
talk about this more tonight, but I'm not sure actually
cutting interest rates will do as much as people hope
for home affordability.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:49:04):
That is a very tricky thing because look, when you
cut interest rates, one of the things that happens is
because people can borrow cheaper, they're willing to pay more
for homes, and it tends to push up home prices. Right,
So it's not the panacea that people think.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Well, John, the only thing that's going to solve that
problem is more supply. I mean, we need more supplay.
We need more supply of what I would call truly
affordable housing. I'm not talking about something like government subsidized,
but I'm talking about you know, don't buy a five thousand,
eight thousand square foot mansion mcmanchain. Once you buy something
that's a little bit more reasonable, smaller in size, easier
to build, a more affordable, less to maintain, less to furnish.

(01:49:42):
I mean, across the board, owning a smaller home is
far more financially prudent from my perspective.

Speaker 10 (01:49:48):
Yes, and one of the things we need those that's
a longer term problem. In other words, it's not something
that a president can fix, you know, within a year.
That's a longer term building problem. It is also, frankly,
a problem that cuts across political barriers, where you have

(01:50:12):
environmentalists who are really worried that you might have to
build some more roads if you're going to build houses
or more houses, because each of those houses is going
to have a family that's driving, so you need more
roads out there. They don't like that because they think
it'll cause climate change to accelerate. So you have a

(01:50:32):
there's a lot of barriers to try to get it done.
We can, I believe, and I think we will over
time solve this problem, but it's not something that's going
to go away quickly. Frankly. Also, Donald Trump's immigration policies
are very helpful in this regard. I know a lot
of people say the opposite. They say, oh no, a
lot of the illegal immigrants are engaged in building, but

(01:50:55):
they have to but before they can build one house,
they have to live in one. And they were frankly,
when you have twelve million people come in over just
a few short years, you are using up a lot
of your housing stock. Cutting down on that will actually
provide some relief. It creates supply for people who are legally.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Here right our financial editor to John Karney talking about
tonight seven ARS seven pm Empower at You America Dot
or one more thing I have to ask you about
John before we part company this morning. In very enlightening conversation.
It's been the job market, the jobs that are out
there that are available, the level of employment that all
is part of what the FED factors in a determining
interest rates. Do you see sort of a very quick

(01:51:36):
upheaval in the job market is brought about by artificial intelligence?
I mean more and more people are losing their jobs
to AI. A lot of people can be replaced now
with artificial intelligence. Is there going to be sort of
a sudden mass firing, you know, over a very much
shorter period of time than we typically see what the
job market? Do you foresee something like that happening and
might that impact the whole FED decision in the future.

Speaker 10 (01:51:58):
I don't think we're going to see a sudden shift.
One problem with trying to read the labor market right now.
This normally would be a job's week, where we would
have a job's report on jobs Friday, first Friday of
every month. We're not going to have that this week.
We're actually and we've we're missing jobs reports because of
the government shutdown that the Democrats caused because they wouldn't

(01:52:20):
vote for appropriations. I think so it's a little hard
to tell what's going on right now, and I don't
think we're going to get a sudden AI jump. I
think the AIS immediate factor will be something on the
realm of around displacing five percent of jobs. Over the
longer term, we may get more, but that means a

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meeting that would have twenty people will have nineteen instead,
and the economy will be able to adapt to that
relatively quickly. Over the long term, there may be a
big shift in the kind of jobs people do, but
I don't think we're going to see like half the
jobs go away sometime next year.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
It's a plus, John Carney, Tonight seven pm, log in
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Tell your friends about it. And again, you don't have
to drive out on the roads to see this one.
It's virtual only. John, thanks for your time today. Appreciate
you doing the empower you seminar, and appreciate everything you're
doing at Breitbart. It's just a great website and I
encourage my listeners to check it out regularly. John. Until

(01:53:25):
we talk again, Man, have a great day.

Speaker 10 (01:53:28):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
This has been great, my pleasure. Seven eight twenty one,
eight twenty nine. On that Tuesday, it is that time
of week. I always look forward to it. I know
you do too as well. Its retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel
Davis for the illiteratively titled Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Find
him online. Wherever you get your podcast, look for Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. You'd be glad you did because he
has a great He does a great job explaining the

(01:53:50):
complicated realities of war, which we've been out a roll
on this one. Daniel Davis, Welcome back to the fifty
five Carcy Morning Show. My friend, always a pleasure.

Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
With the morning. Tell you Brian, good to see.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Hey, I can see and the technical issues have been resolved.
I see Joe Streckers back where he belonged to the
production booths. So those details ironed out now.

Speaker 10 (01:54:08):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Mean I was doing Dealer's choice last week, we're a
pick a topic. I wanted to start on the Russia
Ukraine situation this morning because I saw a couple of
articles and headlines I kind of wanted to bounce off
you and get your reaction. First Off, you've documented, explained
many many times the precarious situation the Ukrainians are in
relative to the strength of Russia's military. Ukraine's running out

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of soldiers, warm bodies, They're short on equipment, They're begging
the world for assistance and help, and YadA, YadA, YadA.
I saw this article, and while the article does acknowledge,
you know, it's like the fog of war. The numbers
are a bit fuzzy, but a lot of Ukrainian soldiers
are deserting. And the one article I read was Ukrainian

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prosecutors handling more than three hundred thousand desertion cases. The
number of people deserting, and the number of people deserting
within any given time frame, regardless of the overall number,
is pretty substantial. That this is a part of the
problem they're facing that I wasn't even aware of. I
get the concept of desertion, but if you can't get

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your own citizens to fight against the Russians. I mean,
this is just another domino falling for Ukraine. Do you
think these figures are accurate? Is that kind of your
understanding of what's on the front lines in the battle?

Speaker 8 (01:55:29):
They are accurate, and I can tell you I have
firsthand knowledge from a former cabinet official in the first
couple of years of the Zelensky administration out of Kiev,
and they said that the situation is generally worse than
what's being reported because they try to put a cap
on all the bad news. You have a combination of
several things working together that are fatal to the Ukraine side.

(01:55:52):
Number one is the desertions you mentioned like that, I
think that they're working three hundred thousand. They've had one
hundred and six one thousand between January first and October
thirty first. I don't know what the numbers are for
the month of November, but it was one hundred and
sixty one thousand. Then at the same time you had
approximately two hundred thousand men of between the ages of

(01:56:13):
eighteen and twenty two flee the country.

Speaker 9 (01:56:16):
They left.

Speaker 8 (01:56:17):
You have somewhere around seventeen thousand forced mobilizations per month
that they bring in, and then there's the it's still
a state secret, but some huge number of casualties per month.
And when you see the number of men that are
force mobilized then come up and get wounded, of those
that fight, then the number that flee because of that
they left the country, and the desertions, you see that

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they are literally physically shrinking by a substantial portion every month,
while the Russian side continues to grow every month because
they recruit, not force mobilized, but recruit more people than
they lose through all means every single month. So while
they're getting bigger and stronger, the Ukraine's side is shrinking.
And it's just a mathematical certainty that at some point

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math will take its effect and you will see a
collapse somewhere of the front. We're starting to see early
signs of that in multiple places along the front line.
Vladimir Putin had a press conference last night where he
announced several cities had had folded et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Pokrovosk was one that he claimed to be captured. They said,
the Russia proclaims final victory over key city Pokrovosk. On
eve of Putin Witkoff Peace Plan meeting. Now, timing is everything,
So they're going in with what arguably is yet another
feather in their cap on the front lines to negotiate
a resolution, which of course is going to require some

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land concessions, which sounds like the land concessions are going
to be growing.

Speaker 9 (01:57:41):
Well, here's the issue. It's number one.

Speaker 8 (01:57:45):
There's no question that Russia announced that on the eve
of Whitcoff's meeting intentionally. The fact is they basically already
had it almost ten days ago. There was just a
few outlying neighborhoods that they had to clear, and I
guess they were waiting on this. I don't know, but
I was wondering why they haven't announcement because they have
had effective control over it for nearly two weeks now.
So that was Pokrovsk. Now that there are about two

(01:58:07):
thousand additional Ukraine troops that are physically surrounded in the
sister city Mirnograd, there are now no more possibility of
them escaping. In the Zaparisha area, there is another settlement
that on the way to the city of Zaparisia, now
putting that at risk. There is Krasny Leman has been
seeing Russian advances, and then one of the biggest ones
is up in the Kharkiv area, in the place called

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Vochansk has now also been completely captured by the Russians.
And then one of the most important things Putin said
that we didn't know yesterday was that they now have
plans to capture the province of not per kolts Star,
that's the city Denipro. They now are going to add
another oblast that they're going to conquer and clear. That's news,

(01:58:52):
and I'm sure that's going to have a big effect
when Whitkof gets to town. But the bottom line for
Russia is, y'all, I don't know why y'all are talking
about security, gainuarrantees and coalition to the willing and stuff.
He goes, because there's nothing you can do that's going
to stop us from taking what.

Speaker 9 (01:59:07):
We want on the battlefield.

Speaker 8 (01:59:08):
So you either have a negotiated settlement on the terms
we're willing to contemplate today, or we will continue to
go in at least up to the Daneper River. And
I don't see anything that can stop the western.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Side and these regions you're referring to either captured or
maybe will be captured up to the Never River? Are
they Russian dominated? In other words, in early on we
talked about CRIMEA. Crimea was logical for Russia to want.
It was built made of primarily Russian sympathized leading individuals
that just happen to be in the Ukraine border. I

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understand conceptually that are we starting to see the Russians
get into areas that are devoutly shall I say, patriotically Ukrainian?

Speaker 9 (01:59:49):
No, No, they're not even close to that yet.

Speaker 8 (01:59:52):
Really, when you look at demographically, everything up to the
Dannepper River is primarily ethnic Russian, and I'm pretty substanti
a portion of it. The further west you go from
the Danepe River, then the percentage just drop off perceptuously
and then it becomes, you know, furthest to the west
it's you know, anti and violently anti Russian in the
Ukrainian going forward. But you're talking about the cities of

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Kharkiv and Odessa, which are the two jewels that are
still in Ukraine control. Those are heavily Russian population, and
of course they they claim historically they're Theirs, et cetera.
But now then you see that they're moving towards that
one in the Kharkiv in the north, because now they're
into what's called the operational space of the Kharkiv Oblast
leading right to the city. And then because of these

(02:00:36):
shots that the West has been doing through Ukraine to
take out their two of their big tankers in the
so called Shadow Fleet, many in Russia are now saying,
all right, that's the last straw. Now, then the only
way we can stop that is to take Odessa. And
so this this may open up a new path to
where they they're gonna beyond, go beyond the Daneper River

(02:00:56):
in the south, even all the way to Daneper eventually.
I don't know how long it might take, but that
seems to be in the crossairs now.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Well, maybe the delay in negotiating a peace resolution is
they want to capture all of the regions that they
can claim are made up of these sort of Russian
loyalist people.

Speaker 8 (02:01:13):
And look, let's just this, just be blunt here, take
the emotions out of it for a moment. Militarily, it
makes a lot of sense for the Russians to say, hey,
why do I want to worry about thinking about twenty
eight points or nineteen points?

Speaker 9 (02:01:26):
And give you this, then I'll take that.

Speaker 8 (02:01:27):
You can take this thing over here, when they can say,
we'll just keep going like we are with the status
quo until we don't have to negotiate anything. We'll simply
take by force of arms what we want. The cost
will be high, but they have the cost, they have
the resources to pay that, both in blood.

Speaker 9 (02:01:44):
Treasure and ammunition. They can do it.

Speaker 8 (02:01:46):
And so from that perspective, because Russia is thinking long term,
they're not thinking just get to the end of the
year or just get to the end of this war.
They're thinking established security, you know, going forward for decades,
et cetera. And for them to pay that process not
that high because the payoff for their country, as they
see it, is high. That's the problem that I don't
think we've come to grips with yet at the negotiating table.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
Well, and I'm sure that they're really looking forward to
say so they can call something a win in the
win column. After so many imming the Soviet Union fel
they lost a lot of regions and provinces. They things
move western. So I think they're in it for a
you know, a moral victory as well as the land acquisition.
Victory on top of everything, would it would serve as

(02:02:28):
least incentive for the patriotic Russians to want to continue
to fight this fight, unlike the Ukrainians who are apparently
fleeing the battlefield.

Speaker 8 (02:02:36):
Yeah, and Brian, it's stronger than that, because it's not
just you know, a military moral victory against Ukraine. It
is a massive victory against NATO. And that's how they
would see it because NATO has done everything in their power,
fifty nations, all the stuff that we've given, everything that
we've tried with training with weapons, ammunition, the intelligence, support, targeting, support,

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long range.

Speaker 9 (02:02:58):
If all of that fails, it won't just be a
paper victory.

Speaker 8 (02:03:01):
It will be a pretty substantial victory that many around
the world will observe and go, holy smokes, everything NATO
tried to do failed.

Speaker 9 (02:03:08):
So it is a big deal.

Speaker 8 (02:03:10):
And one of the reasons why I think that we
should say, let's don't get to that point. Let's have
an ugly negotiated deal now, so that we can prevent
them from getting all that kind of a victory, at
least a full one, because otherwise it'll just look like
we could do nothing and we could not stop the
Russians all the way up to the border.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
Take your wins where you can get them. Apparently one
more thing I have to ask, and you know, moving
forward in the aftermath of whatever this war leads to,
whatever solution negotiated or not, the breadbasket of the region Ukraine.
Talked about the fields, the grain, the abundance of all
these resources. Who in the hell is going to be

(02:03:49):
there to farm the land? Daniel Davis.

Speaker 8 (02:03:52):
Yeah, you know, there's plenty of people that will farm
it because it'll just be under the Russian control, but
the people themselves will steal farm it. The bigger problem, though, Brian,
is that the amount of ordinance that had been expended
there and bombs and unexploded ordinance, bomb fragments, et cetera,
is so massive it's going to take I bet more

(02:04:12):
than a decade, probably a lot more than a decade
to get all that taken out. And you're talking minds
as well, so a lot of that, some of the
best most fertile territory is sewed with mines and and
unexploded bomb fragments, et cetera. And you've got to get
all that stuff cleared out before you can even start
to work in in no matter who controls it. So
that's something that's going to be negatively affected for a

(02:04:34):
long long time to come.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
It sure is. But given the gravity of that problem,
I would like to think some you know, international body
of folks, maybe like the Baby Blue Hats, could go
in and start solving that problem on behalf of humanity
given all the unexploded ordinance.

Speaker 8 (02:04:49):
Yeah, I mean, we still have people doing the mining
operations in Vietnam. There's no question that a lot of
people want to do that, but we've got to have
a security environment to allow it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
That's the problem. Davis retired Lieutenant Colonel Find him where
you get your podcast, Daniel Davis Deep Dive Find him
every week here at eight thirty beginning on Tuesdays here
in the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. Very informative, very enlightening.
I like, yes, telling it like it is. You don't
sugarcoat anything, Daniel. We all need a healthy dose of
that man to really come to grips with what's going on.

Speaker 8 (02:05:20):
But we got to have a healthy dopet so that
we can get to something that actually can sustain and
be good for the outcome.

Speaker 9 (02:05:27):
If you don't do that then you're going to be
left with whatever's left over.

Speaker 2 (02:05:29):
Stop the death. That's your in my goal, I think
in the long run, Daniel Davis, Until next week, have
a great week, my friend, give in my friend. Thanks
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(02:06:12):
newest treatments and latest success. We always talk about success
when ohc's on the air with lung cancer treatments. So
welcome doctor Paul. It's a real pleasure having you in it.
Congratulations on the new position. You've been there three months,
so you're not exactly new.

Speaker 4 (02:06:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (02:06:27):
Brian.

Speaker 11 (02:06:28):
Yeah, so I've been here for like three months and
I've enjoyed time working at Wetze and this is lung
cancer Awareness months, so I'm glad to be here to
talking about lung cancer, the newer treatment options and early detection.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
All right, well, I was I have notes. Clearly, I'm
not a doctor, nor am I a lung cancer specialist,
nor do I play when on radio, but lung cancer
is the second most common cancer in men and women,
you say, behind prostate and breast cancer, respectively. I kind
of expected that figure to have dropped some. I mean,
we're all got the memo quit smoking because that's the

(02:07:09):
leading cause of lung cancer. Is this still smoking related
primarily or is there environmental relations with why we continue
to have such a high incidence of lung cancer?

Speaker 11 (02:07:20):
Very good question. So it's still primarily smoking related, although
the smoking related lung cancer is slowly declining. But unfortunately
in certain groups and certain ethnicities, especially young women Asian descent,
the lung cancer rates are unfortunately increasing. There's also like

(02:07:43):
environmental exposure air pollution, rad on exposure, which is unfortunately
common in Ohio too.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Yeah, Radon, Yeah, I think I have my head in
the sand on doing the radon check. I've been in
my home for thirty years. I just rather not know.
Don't quote me on that doctor anyway. I understand there
are two types of lung cancer. Can you break that
down for my listeners what the two types are and
how they differ.

Speaker 11 (02:08:10):
Yes, so there are two types. One is small cell
lung cancer and the other one is called non small
cell lung cancer. The lung cancer it's called small cell
based on how it appears under the microscope. Small cell
lung cancer unfortunately tends to progress rapidly, and fortunately it's

(02:08:30):
less common. Only ten to fifteen percent of lung cancer
is small cell lung cancer. It definitely has a high
risk of association with smoking. Almost ninety five percent of
patients with small cell lung cancer have some smoking history,
and the five year survival rate for extensive stage also

(02:08:51):
known as stage four small cell lung cancer is still
very poor, only seven percent. Non smell cell lung cancer
is more common, and it's again divided to several subtypes.
It is still tied to smoking, but in general, non
small cell lung cancer has better survival rate, and especially

(02:09:14):
you know when it's diagnosed in lower stages.

Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
All right, we did talk about the risk factors. Eighty
five percent of all lung cancers caused by smoking. Secondhand
smoke can be an issue that's like an environmental reality
that we're all facing. You mentioned the raid on. Before
we get to treatment options, what are some of the
early indicators that you may be have you may have
a problem, you maybe having lung cancer. I mean, what

(02:09:39):
should I be looking for? For example in my world idea?

Speaker 11 (02:09:42):
Sure, so if you have a cough that's not going
away after you know, let's say four to six weeks
or so, then I think definitely it should get evaluated,
especially if it's somebody with smoking history, right, you know
you need to see your primary care rather quickly.

Speaker 2 (02:10:00):
Yeah, don't chalk it off it's just smoker's cough. You
may have a bigger problem going on exactly.

Speaker 11 (02:10:06):
Also like nuance at shortness of breath or worsening shortness
of breath, And if you have like bloody sputum, then
definitely losing weight without trying, you know, that's another reason.
You know you need to see your primary care and
get further evaluation.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
All right, turning to treatment options, we need to get
that low survival rate figure up. So what are the
treatment options we're talking about now, doctor sure?

Speaker 11 (02:10:35):
Before we go to treatment option, I do want to say,
in patients with a smoking history, usually say twenty pack
years smoking history, or those who quit within the last
fifteen years or so, we recommend getting an annual load
o CT scan for lung cancer screening because the goal
is to catch it early. So in anybody who is

(02:10:58):
between the ages of fifty to eighty years of age
and has a significant smoking history, definitely follow with primary
care and get CT scan schedule, just like how we
recommend mammogram for a woman.

Speaker 2 (02:11:13):
Okay, so since I'm getting a general body CT scan
from neck to waste for my lymphoma, then if i
have any issues of my lungs, They're gonna red flag
that form during that process. Good, all right, I don't
have that to worry about that, all right. So the
treatment options, so obviously this has something to do with
what stage you catch the cancer at, that's right.

Speaker 11 (02:11:34):
So the treatment options depends on what kind of lung
cancer it is. It can change between small cell and
non small cell lung cancer. And also you know what
stage it is, So stage one is the earlier stage.
Usually those lung cancer we're talking about non small cell.
Generally we do like surgery some cases radiation therapy which

(02:11:59):
is directly targeted towards that lung nodule, so in that
way the toxicity is less. When it comes to stage two,
we still opt for surgery, but some patients may need
some upfront chemo immunotherapy to shrink the tumor. And then
stage three and beyond, generally it's a chemo radiation. When

(02:12:21):
it comes to stage four, that's when the molecular testing
makes a huge role because I would say, you know,
ten years ago or fifteen years ago, we used to
give chemotherapy. There were no role for like immunotherapy or
targeted therapy, but now we have those new treatment options. Historically,

(02:12:43):
non small cell lung cancer, like roughly ten years ago,
the survival rate for stage four non small cell was
around four percent, but now it has changed, and especially
with targeted therapy and immunotherapy, certain subtypes of non small
cellung cancer are you know, like twenty to forty percent

(02:13:03):
five year survival rate, which is very impressive.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
That is amazing progress. And I know you at OHC
were involved with these new treatments, so you're always doing that,
and which leads me to what I always end with
clinical trials, which OHG is always doing. It's the place
to be clinical trials. You have clinical trials relating to
lung cancer going on.

Speaker 11 (02:13:23):
Yes, we have over ten different trials for lung cancer,
both non small cell and small cell lung cancer focused
on improving quality of life and better outcomes. These trials
help us to truly individualize the care plans that will
lead us to treating cancer more effectively and eventually curing
lung cancer. One other thing I do want to bring

(02:13:44):
your attention to is a newer treatment called BITE therapy.
Oh yeah, yeah, so BITE therapy. It stands for bispecific
T cell engager therapy or in other words, it's kind
of like a drug that acts like a matchmaker or
a bridge that brings your body's immune cells directly to
the cancer cells to kill them. And the BYTE therapy

(02:14:07):
has been used in small cell lung cancer. It just
got recently FDA approved, like a couple of weeks ago,
and this treatment has reduced small cell lung cancer extensive
stage or stage four mortality by forty percent, which is
quite impressive. But Oetz has this clinical trial with byte
therapy going on, even like several months prior to the

(02:14:31):
FD approval, through our clinical trials, our patients had access
to this bite therapy and now it's approved.

Speaker 2 (02:14:38):
So yeah, at some point off the shelf, everybody's going
to be able to get it. Some of these are
bespoke treatments that you create specific to the person. I've learned,
Like I said, my dream someday is pull it off
the shelf and get your lung cancer or whatever other
cancer cured. Doctor Paul, A real pleasure you're passing along
this wonderful information in spite of the death that typically
associated with lung cancer. Clearly some MASSI of improvements in

(02:15:01):
life expectancy brought to you by my friends at o
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