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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Five o five, the fifty five KRC, the talk station.
Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tuesday. Some say.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Will vacation pro and that's the way the news goes.
It certainly is the way the news goes. Brian Thomas
right here, glad to be Glad to see Joe Chucker,
executive producer, Internet research guru, all round, great guy and
podcast producer. You gonna be doing Andre a Ewing's podcast, Joe,

(00:43):
You're helping him. Good Undre a Ewing Brother Dre joined
the program yesterday. I got a little story to talk
about that the follow up on the West End cameras. Anyhow,
before we get to that, what's going on this morning here?
First off, I love hearing from you. If you have
a comment you want to make five one three seven
fifty hundred eight talk or pound five fifty on AT
and T Funds. Of course, I mentioned Andrea, you and

(01:04):
brother Dre yesterday for a full hour in studio that
podcast right there regarding violence over the holiday time off
and programs that have been previously in place that worked,
and apparently the current administration isn't interested in pursuing things
that work. Rather, put your new people in and have
them start over and then not follow up with what
the money is going toward and whether the programs that

(01:24):
you and I are funding through our taxpayer dollars are
actually providing any benefit. We all know that story anyway,
Andrea on that fifty five caresee dot com chief Scott
Hughes on the violence in Cincinnati Christopher Smith event and man,
it was a Smith event yesterday on fire, very passionate,
claiming the mayor and city since a city council of
blood on their hands. But he was certainly upset, as

(01:47):
everyone should be, about the murder of that poor eleven
year old girl in the park over the West End
the other day. A special Daniel Davis deep dive obviously
on Venezuela. Just because we did one yesterday doesn't mean
we're not doing one today. Daniel Davis returns as he
typically does every Tuesday at eight thirty. We certainly will
get the latest from Venezuela. And hey, look it's on
the rundown. Russia and Ukrain are still fighting? Is that

(02:09):
still going on? Joe overshadowed by some other news, at
least momentarily, Daniel Davis at eight thirty preseeded by the
Inside Scoop with breit Barton News should be a great one.
I mean personally, always think to talk out of the
folks from Breitbart is great. But today it's it's gonna
be interesting. Never talked to him before. Caleb Caruzo escaped

(02:30):
Venezuela in twenty twenty four, now lives legally in Italy.
He broke the news of Maduro's capture on the Breitbart
site early on Saturday morning, and well native Venezuela began
writing for breitbarton twenty nineteen, hired to do a series
called My Socialist Hell. M says he spent his days

(02:54):
in Venezuela when he lived there struggling to survive. So
obviously he's got a personal story to telling. It is
to his thoughtful analysis about what's going to happen and
what is going on in e Venezuela. Preceded by great
in studio a common police judge Christopher McDowell. Apparently he's
had his life and his family threatened by one of

(03:15):
his defendants. And what a problem it is to be
a judge. Can you imagine the pressure. And I may
be able to get to it. If you have time,
I will encourage you to read the Social media is
a trapper politicians article bay oh look good. Natorial candidate
Vivik Ramaswami, he's an appeared in The Wall Street Journey
yesterday and it's a really great analysis. He's swearingen off

(03:35):
social media because it unduly influences people. It's a bunch
of crap out there. It's an echo chamber controlled primarily
by folks overseas. The angriest and the loudest and the
most obscene comments get repeated over and over again, giving
some people but not mister Ramaswami, the impression that that
is actually what the public thinks and believes. No, it's not.

(04:02):
Ignore it, be like vvk ramise from me or be
like me. I don't participate in social media mindly for that.
Mainly for that reason I've said many times. I never
ever and I'm sure there are haters out there in
the world that hate me for whatever reason they decide.
Here's Brian Thomas not caring. I don't look out there
in the world to see what people are saying about
my program about me personally. Don't care. I mean I

(04:24):
care about my listeners, I love them. I rely on
the ratings and my streaming numbers to determine whether anybody's
out there listening, and thank god for everybody out there
who is. You're welcome to call into the Morning Show,
express your approval or disagreement, or bring up topics that
maybe I haven't brought up, and also enlightened me because
I admittedly don't know everything in the world. I'm smart

(04:45):
enough to know that you can't capsize an island like
our elected officials sometimes are that dumb. But support of
the Morning Show. But anyway, going out into the world
and see what other people say, you don't know what's
trial and what's fake. You don't know where the majority
comes from from on social media. It's impossible. So and
you're wondering where all these protesters showed up in support

(05:06):
of Medezvels madurod out of nowhere. The woodwork that came
out streaming on Saturday morning, moments after the military operation concluded,
with professional signs and placards and oh my god, organization
all over their social media. You think those folks really
truly represent the will of the American people. Certainly probably
not the will of the Venezuelans who've been living under

(05:28):
the thumb of military oppression. And a dictatorship now since
the Javez was around. But anyhow, if you can get
a hold of that Wall Street Journal article of E.
Dke Romise, why I mean social media as a trivet
for politicians. I think he has some outstanding points along
those lines. But going back to the judge, Chris McDowell,
you know, can you imagine being a judge in a

(05:51):
time where we have defund the police and angered prosecutors
and people who are a tough on crime. Anybody who's
tough on crime they go after Oh my god, you know,
that's a lot of pressure and any Oh I almost
you know, Joe, I almost had to hit the dump
button again on a word that was getting ready to
come out of my mouth. Anybody with an Internet access

(06:15):
can make a comment and can threaten you. Is it legitimate?
Probably not in the vast majority of cases. Might you
take it a little bit seriously? Or might it cause
some concern in your heart and mind to the extent
someone might threaten your family because of a case over
which you're presiding on?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Might it influence your judicial decision? Certainly a possibility, isn't it.
That's scary stuff right there? I'm glad we're having the
judge in studio. That'll take place at seven thirty pre
seeded buy the Where has he been? Tom Zawastowski, He's back.
We the People Convention dot Org. We'll talk about some

(06:55):
state issues. His thoughts on property tax here in the state,
the Ohio Minnesota to Somali daycare fraud link and oh look,
we had a Somali official, a government official who apparently
owned a Ohio daycare company. How did that happen? Governor
to whine? Meanwhile, I guess fraud is the cost of
doing business or something. Somebody wrote, please resign under the

(07:19):
headline Ohio Governor Mike Dwine defends Somali daycares amid viral
fraud claims, Joe, is that you that kind of looks
like you're handwriting. You don't have You don't have Governor
Tim Walltz to kick around anymore. He dropped out. He
is no longer running for reelection. Why Somali daycare fraud?

(07:40):
So tom's Awastowski returns seven oh five five three, seven
four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two
three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones.
Not that I want to talk about myself. But I
have admitted from the day I got diagnosed with cancer
that I had, and I did it as a count.
It just really is an effort to inform the listeners.
You got to take kid care of yourself. Little things

(08:01):
that are going on in your life. It might be
good to see a primary care physician about because it
could turn into something larger. It's exactly my little stepping
stone on my path to finding out. You know what, Brian,
you got lymphoma years ago. I have not been in
treatment for five years. I got five years worth of
relief thanks to the treatment I had previously been under. Sadly,

(08:21):
yesterday I got bad news. I got to go back
to treatment again with my with chemo and this other
cancer agent that I have to get through a bag
just kind of similar to what I went through last time.
But my lymph nodes grew. I was really optimistic that
the last scan would show that they had gotten smaller.
I was on the path to maybe not the recovery.

(08:43):
They said I couldn't get cured on this one, at
least not yet. Someday maybe, But because the lymph nodes grew,
my doctor expressed some concern for me so ergo, I'm
gonna have to go back into cancer treatment. Listen, you
play the hand that it's dealt you. I'm not gonna
let it get me down. I'm going to be i'd listen.
I got a loving family. Everything I think is going

(09:04):
to be fine. But you know, I'm just not looking
forward to the nausea and everything else that goes along
with getting cancer treatments. But for those who regularly ask
about my health, and God bless each and every one
of you for taking an interest. I'm just saying to you,
take care of yourself. And I think about the kind

(09:25):
words of support from my wife yesterday. You know, don't
want anything to happen to you. I'm worried, you know,
don't be. I'm kind of matter of fact about it.
I just like I don't think about it. I try
not to let it bother me. But if you step
back from yourself, and I count it as a blessing
that I have people like my mom and my wife
and my family and others who really do truly care.

(09:47):
Like so many of the listeners have expressed concern and
care for me over the years. It is just it's heartwarming.
It's uplifting and on Fridays when we play It's a
wonderful world, I always say, you know, just got to
look for it. Brian got cancer. Okay, that sucks, but
you know what, it makes me realize. I'm surrounded by

(10:09):
loving people who are concerned. There's a little life miracle,
isn't it. So roll the punches, fight the good fight,
take good care of yourself. What more can I say?
So thanks again to those who have expressed those concerns,
and I'll let you know how things go. I'm optimistic
that maybe I'll get another five years of remission before

(10:32):
I'll be back on the table again. Get in the
drip and can I ask out loud? Unrelated topic, did
anybody else get a duke bill recently? Joe? Have you
recently received a duke bill, like within the last week
or so? Was it a lot more than previously? Did
it seem much bigger than your prior bills?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
You've got even billing? I don't. I have never seen
a bill that big in my life. I kept looking
at it over and over and over again. What in
the hell you know? And obviously, honestly I went back
and I didn't use or weed recollectively. We live in
a house more more than just me in there. Didn't

(11:13):
use more electricity than I did last billing cycle a
calendar year ago. And trust me, if I built it
up much a year ago, I would have remembered it
like I'm gonna remember the one I just paid yesterday.
Did the rates go up? Did I miss something? Or
is it just me? Anyhow? I thought that. I even
said to my wife, I go, you know, I feel

(11:34):
sorry for seniors on a fixed income. It's bad enough
your property tax bill's gone through the roof. Thanks again
to Tom z Awastowski. Were talking about property tax issues
in Ohio. But for someone in a fixed income, you know,
a few hundred dollars one way or another can make
a big difference or cause a lot of pain. That's

(11:56):
exactly exactly the sound effect that was going through my
my mind yesterday, Joe, and I actually think I was
kind of walking a little bit funny as I reacted
to the bill.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
As this tradition five.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Seventeen right now, if you five care see the talk
station more to talk about, including who who is this
batcrap crazy guy who tried to break into jd Vance's house?
Question and How in the hell did he get so
far that he could walk up the driveway, damages a
secret service car, damage the Vice President's car, and smashed

(12:29):
windows out of the house before they grabbed him. You're
right back after these brief words. Everybody loves the season
of giving. But now this five twenty one h Thank you,
mister Burkholds for the context message on about my comments

(12:51):
on cancer. Appreciate it. That's the kind of guy I'm
thinking about when I get to some kind words coming
my way. God bless you, sir, one of the most
influential men in my education career. One teacher can meet
a world of difference in a child's life, I'm sure
in a terrible way, but also in a very positive way.
Fortunately he was the latter in the case of mister
Berkle's my government teacher back in high school. So love

(13:14):
you man, really do? Is what's the deal with this?
So we got to the Fox nineteen reporting on credit
to Mary Labaus and Mike Shelfer letting me know about
this the information regarding William Defour, twenty six year old
kid who vandalized Vice President JB. Vance's house here in Cincinnati,
accues of running up to Vance's house, breaking four windows

(13:37):
with a hammer and causing damage to the Vice President's
car vehicle. Why are you doing that? No idea? We
made you a fall to backcrap insanity. We'll find out.
Cord to the reporting, US Secret Service agent witnessed the incident,
and as is written, when the agent asked Tofod to stop,
he took off running. Sacred Service then called in for

(14:01):
the CINCINNT Police to respond to the home at quarter
after midnight, saying this suspect was on the run. Court
to the Department of Justice. This William DeFore walked up
the driveway to the home, attempted to break the driver's
side window of an unmarked federal law enforcement vehicle that
was blocking the path, refused law enforcement's command to stop,

(14:24):
used his hammer to break windows across the front of
the house, and damaged security systems. How could all of
that happen when the Secret Service is present? Now, maybe
there was a lesser presence of Secret Service agents there
since JD. Vans had already gone back to DC. I
don't know. Property damage estimateted to be twenty eight thousand dollars.

(14:46):
He was later detained by Secret Service booked into the
Justice Center yesterday. Last night, US District Court Dominate Garci
outlined the charges against him needs to be the federal charges.
Note that there are federal and state charges. Apparently, the
federal charges damaging government property, engaging in physical violence against
any person or property in restricted building or grounds, and assaulting, resisting,

(15:07):
or impeding federal officers. And if you do that today,
if you damage more than a thousand dollars in federal property,
punishable by up to ten years in prison. Accordingly, they
say the impending federal the impending federal charges could carry
up to twenty years in prison. Don't hold your breath

(15:30):
staying from Secret Service, he was Secret Services coordinating with
since a police department of the US Attorney's Offices, changing
decisions are reviewed, charging whether the decisions are reviewed. Retired
Secret Service agent Denny Schlendwine, speaking with local news, according
to his time with the agency, he thinks security around
VANCE could be increased. Well, there's a bold conclusion. You

(15:55):
have audio from that Joe, you want to roll it?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Now?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Do you want me to finish the rest of the detail.
I know exactly what movie that comes from. You gotta
be a Holy Crown Fan. He's coming, He's coming, He's coming.

(16:28):
Ah ha. Anyway, thank you, j Just Strekor for the
high comedy. Now in terms of local charges facing for
those obstructing official business second degree misdemeanor, kind of criminal

(16:48):
damaging second degree misdemeanor, kind of criminal trespass fourth degree misdemeanor,
and one kind of vandalism fifth degree felony. Not his
first time facing criminal charge. Apparently in April, he pleaded
guilty to two counts of vandalism after causing more than
two thousand dollars worth of damage to a Hyde Park
interior design company. Sentenced the treatment at a mental health

(17:13):
facility for two years, was required to pay fifty five
fifty in restitution five hundred and fifty. You're keeping track
at home, so anyway, arraigned will be arragned this morning
in Hamilton County Municipal Court. H bond recommended due to
his criminal history, and of course there won't be high bond.
If he's in front of what Judge Silverstein, Joe, they'll

(17:33):
probably give him a cash buddy here, take five thousand
dollars and a cookie and juice. That would be Joe
Strecker Judge Streker five twenty six more local stories calls
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a high of fifty eight on Thursday, and right now
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five fifty on AT and T phones. Thank you, Tom.
I mentioned the outrageous increase of my Duke energy bill

(18:42):
and I cannot figure out why it's gone up so
much again come month over month over month, I use
the same amount of electricity in the Indie monthly bill,
but it was just like short changing increase, so Tom
had the same kind of experience. Has jumped pretty substantially

(19:03):
from the prior month. He said he couldn't figure out why.
He said, at least I know I'm not the only one,
so I'm not quite sure what's going on out there
in the world a duke. But I was reeling from
that one. So let's go over to local stories here
a continuing a theme after yesterday's program, we're talking about security.
Christopher Smitheman on a massive spleen vent of course, Andre

(19:24):
Ewing talking about violence in the city and some of
the solutions and some of the problems and programs that
actually can work. Cameras actually a great idea, and of
course those folks in the West End who deal with
crime on a regular basis have been promised security cameras.
That topics come up of late. As matter of fact,
after the beatdown last summer, we remember that Sarah Herringers
got her husband's stab. Now she had to move out

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of town or moved out of town, just got fed
up with the city of Cincinnati, and a God bless
her and all the best of luck in the world. Sarah.
We have the beat down Holly got her face smashed
in without any provocation, without any justification. Six people been
arrested on that one was in court. Recently, they were

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promised cameras, and in the response to the crime and
the violence that the mayor had to acknowledge, they allocated
what five point four million dollars, including a specific allocation
of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to expand camera
use in the West End. Scott Wartman, if the enquired
followed up on this, he asked some questions, kind of
frightening that he doesn't have answers to these questions, and

(20:28):
I'm glad he was out there asking him on behalf
of at least the people in the West End, but
people who are concerned about crime in the city generally speaking.
City officials have not confirmed whether more cameras have been
installed or if any caught the Year's day shooting death
of the eleven year old at the West End playground.
As he writes, questions instead revealed confusion and contradiction. Here,

(20:52):
let me look at my how your neighborhood voted for
mayor map that Joe Stracker has plastered up all over
the studio in choir reached out the members of city
council and city administration pained open records requests over the
past several days for surveillance footage to the extent and
he exists and apparently no one knows, as well as
information on whether or not any additional security cameras have

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been installed. Here's what Scott tells us. One councilman unnamed,
told the Inquirer that as of November, many of the
security cameras in the neighborhood weren't operational, which suggests they
were up but not working. Another councilman said that the
administration told him a camera near the playground is functioning,

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but as of yesterday afternoon, neither the Sin Sinni Police
Department nor sin Sinny City managers off was going to
answer those questions, nor had the city fulfilled the Inquire's
open records request.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, of course, we've had a lot of problems in
the West End, as he recounts, to go back to
twenty twenty three, Dominic Davis eleven, shot and killed near
the same playground of the West End. Police chief three
Satiji said police would up its use of cameras and
patrols in the neighborhood. Of course, you had the brawl
that we all talked about, just mentioned it a moment ago.
That was after in September when they put with they

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allocated five point four million dollars of city money to
public safety spending package again along with one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to expand camera use in the West End.
Interestingly enough, that camera promise was made like two and
a half years ago and they just allocated the money
last year. With all the money they send out to
NGOs in the world to do community activism work, they

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couldn't come up with one hundred and fifty grand to
help the West End out deal with its crime problem.
Oh but see, that's not existing infrastructure, Joe. You can't
blame the railroad sale on that one. There'll be new
new cameras are new infrastructure, right, Let's make that argument
all day long. Councilman Seth Walsh actually his name is

(22:58):
in here told the Inquiry and assistance the administrator told
him back at the end of November that the city
was still awaiting permission from private property owners or Duke
Energy to install many of the new cameras in the
West End. Wall said, apparently I did. Wall said, if

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the cameras are still not operational, if he doesn't know,
the administration needs to act quickly.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
We need to make this a true priority and figure
out the roadblocks and get the cameras up that we
already allocated funding for and not continue to slow roll up.
This is an issue that's been going on for years,
and we pledge those cameras two and a half years ago.
Close quote. Oh, it's it's a priority, but not a

(23:48):
true priority. And now though we have another eleven year
old shot dead in the park in the west dead
among all the other crime that's been going over there,
maybe it's now been elevated to a true priority. It's
like probation versus double secret probation. According to John Joyce,
Duke Energy spokesman, the utility company doesn't have any pending

(24:10):
requests from the city to put cameras on utility polls
in the West End. Well, well, that's kind of an
important element that's missing. At the end of November, police
told the West End Community Council that they've identified some
cameras in the West End that weren't working and they
were in the process of replacing them, as well as
installing additional cameras at new location. According to the Galeen Gordon,

(24:36):
president of the Community Council, I think it's in the process
of happening. It just hasn't happened fast enough. Yeah, since
City manager spokeswoman Molly Laire referred all questions regarding the
surveillance cameras to this insane police who parenthetically didn't return
any messages asking seeking comment from the enquire a message.

(24:59):
Here's a s shocking statement, Scott Wortman says, a message
that mayor aftab pervol was also not returned. Oh you
think he's waiting for clearance through IRIS. There's a possibility,
Joe strecord stack is stupid coming up. Have we already
started that foreign exchange where you want to take your

(25:21):
car to get your oil change for less money? That's
what I'm doing next. I still have to make the
phone call. I got a couple of hundred miles before
my little sticker says I need my oil change and
I will save a couple of one hundred dollars rather than
taking it to the dealer where I would be charged
two hundred dollars more I'm going to save that money
by going to Foreign Exchange. I know it's crazy, but
that's the reality of the car. I mean, it's German.
What are you going to do? But that's real savings.

(25:42):
I love saving money, and the Foreign Exchange knows everybody does,
especially since the price of fixing cars has gone up
a lot. Yeah, shocking no one. They service traditionally manufactured
imported cars Asian European and they also authorized us to
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than the dealer, master technicians, factory trained as certified working

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and service, and you walk out with less with more
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That is the location where I go. That's where my
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Speaker 3 (26:32):
This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Feel so badly for women these days. We got a
guy who's accused of I'll use the pleasuring himself the
M word in the women's bathroom and a Planet Fitness
in California. Not shocking, that's him So we.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Could get into the penalty box.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
All by himself.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Incident caught on camera. It seems to be a default
statement in any news article these days, anyway. Grace Hudson
claims she filmed what happened at the location in Concord, California,
several months ago, only recently got attention online. According to
The New York Post reporting on Monday, video shows the
person's feet and what appears to be the shadow of

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male body parts as he was inside the bathroom stall
when the initial incid had happened, and she told staffers,
but they apparently did not know what to do in
these trying times we live in. You know, it was
a time when there weren't supposed to be guys and
they're junk in women's bathrooms. It was like an arrestable offense, right. Apparently,

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her boyfriend eventually confronted the man, pointing out that he
was a man in a women's bathroom. The man apparently
said I'm a transgender and then later claiming not his
words but basically boiled down that he was not pleasuring himself.
I guess in spite of the video camera evidence which
seems to document that he did that. Cord of the post,

(28:05):
she regrets not doing more when she saw the man
in the women's bathroom, saying I was just really uncomfortable,
and honestly, I kind of just wanted to say my
piece and get the efford out of there. Looking back,
I do it regrets like I should have done more.
I should have called the cops yep, and probably was
afraid to do so. Kind of common line of the
lines of what vvig Ramaswaram he said with regard to
social media, you know, if you bother to say anything,

(28:27):
if you draw attention to something that is bad and wrong,
demonstrably so objectively so there shouldn't be men pleasuring themselves
in the women's bathroom, then you might be docksed on
social media. They might call you out for being I
don't know, transphobic. You know, I'll tell you that has
nothing to do with transphobia. I guess it's one thing

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to argue that the person who identifies as a woman
should be allowed in there, and I'm not one that
buys into that argument. But just because they're allowed in there,
does that mean they engage in acts that this person
was conducted in the women's bathroom? Right, going back to
the reasons why it shouldn't be allowed, Go ahead, docs
me on social media. Let's see here five one, three, seven, eight,

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two three to five k LEAVE talk station five fifty
fifty five kr CD talk station. Going back to the
stupid Florida man. Pope County, Florida now behind bars after
the deputy say he had a gun hidden under prosthetic

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silicone breasts while trespassing at a construction site. Poul Kuty
Sheriff Grady Judd said, Matthew Zacharina, thirty nine, of Altamonte Springs,
was sitting in a vehicle by himself at a construction
site last month. Deputy approached him, said he was wearing
a red lace bra with prosthetic silicon breasts. Poul County

(29:58):
Sheriff Grady Judd said, then we noticed he was wearing
a g string showing off showing off of the boys,
you know what I means? Yeah, I do know what
you mean, Sheriff. He explained that it's hard to know
how dangerous these situations are because under the prosthesis, deputies

(30:18):
again found a gun. Sheriff claimed that Zacharen was going
to a cup he was packing. That is correct phrasing.
According to the sheriff, Zacharyena claimed he was going to
a costume party. When debities asked where the party was,
that's when he stopped talking. Jud said, can you imagine

(30:39):
he's mad at us for trying to find out why
he's wearing lace bras with guns and g strings or
g somethings. It was ugly. It was so ugly. I
guess since he doubled down on the ugly statement, it
must have really been ugly. Charged with armed trespassing with
a firearm, loitering or prowling and resisting an Ah, that's

(31:00):
a lot of feces without violence. Where did that one
come from? Joe? That was that was a button bump,
button bump bump. Okay, okay, we have an update on
the story that you printed on than the man with
a sword, Joe, they got him. We got a yipseil

(31:23):
a in Michigan, where the standoff ended last night after
a man barricaded himself inside a home with a sword
for more than thirty hours. Police were to stale mate
with the fifty three year old man on West Cross Street,
believed to be armed with the sword and hiding in
an attic. They used flash bangs, tear gas, loud speaker
police worked to get him out peacefully. The incident ended

(31:44):
at ten thirty pm last night after he was taken
it to custody without anyone being hurt. According to the
Westenaw County Crisis negotiators flanked by SWAT team members worked
since two thirty pm Sunday to get the man outside
safely after charging ipsilan the officers with a sword in

(32:05):
one hand phrasing and a stick in the other phrasing.
Initial call came after twelve thirty pm Sunday, Please say
the man tried getting into a neighbor's home. Officers went
to his West Cross Street home's door, where the man
allegedly confronted police holding the weapons. Concerned neighbor, who didn't
want to be a names, speaking with local news seven there,
said that the man practices martial arts and that his

(32:26):
mother in law lives on the first floor of the home.
Of course, he lives with his mother. Neighbors said he
was having a really hard week and a wellness check
was called, and it's managed to escalate into basically a
high highly militarized situation. The squad has taken over our
block and occupied it and created this perimeter and has

(32:47):
maintained police believe. Says he kept popping in and out
of the homes attic but didn't know the home's exact footprint.
Don't understand that quite The Ipsilanti Police said the officers
were called to his home at least one other time
in the forty eight hours preceding the incident, but they
didn't know the reason for the call. Man with a

(33:07):
sword and.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Stick phrasing.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
M See how about this United States Postal System driver
in Florida now facing criminal charges for quote, trying to
run over a ten year old close quote after seeing
the child riding a scooter with a package that he
had just delivered. Boy was bringing the package to a

(33:34):
neighbor's house after he was dropped off at his home
by accident. According to officials, what the hell Florida Highway
betrol Captain Jason King, speaking of local news, this isn't
just a simple OOPS crash with a ten year old
on the road. This is an intentional act by a
United States Postal worker. Forty one year old William White

(33:55):
Junior accused of trying to hit the ten year old
when he was riding a scooter again with the package,
on Kingfisher Way near his home. Police report states White
dropped the package off of the wrong address. The child,
whose family owns that residence, saw the package was meant
for a different address. The child then grabbed the package
placed it on his electric scooter to take to the

(34:15):
correct address. White allegedly saw the boy with the package
thought he was attempting to steal it. He quote purposefully
drove the USPS vehicle toward the child and ran over
the scooter. Well it's quote that's in the arrest report,
narrowly missing the boy and causing him to injure his ankle.
I tried to get out of the way. According to
the police report, the child was able to get into

(34:36):
the nearby yard prior to the scooter being hit. White
started driving away while the boy's parents came outside to
confront him. He allegedly yelled at the boy before leaving
White question about the incident. Several days later, arrested for
aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, petty theft, and criminal mischief.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Is the biggest doucheo of the yout in all the galaxies.
There's no bigger douce than you. You've reached the top,
the pinnacle of deuss them. Good going dou Your dreams
have come true.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
One story I did not get to and kind of
scratching my head over at Jes Strecker the recipe for
the porn Star martini. That's the entirety of the article.
Porn Star Martini serves one prep time, cook time and
the ingredients. That's it. I'm not going to read your comment, Joe,

(35:46):
what plenty to talk about the six o'clock hour. Feel
free to call love hearing from listeners because nobody wants
to talk to me today. That's okay. We got stories
going on in the world. To be right back.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Today's top headlines coming.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Up at the top. But then see you just am talkstation.
It's six oh five fifty five k RCD talk station
by Thomas here. Wishing will be in a very happy Tuesday.
Listener lunch tomorrow. Hope to see a mad Tree Summit
Park location, Blue Ash. It's gonna be good least I
think it's gonna be a good time. If I show
up there by myself and enjoy the food there and
an ice cold beer, I guess it'll be a good time,

(36:20):
but I'd be missing out on the fellowship, which I
always enjoy. So try to put it down on your
calendar if you can make it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Love to see you.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Always interested in talking to Tom's Awastowski. It has been
a while. It'll be one hour from now. He'll be back.
We the People Convention dot orgs this website. We have
some state topics to talk about, including property tax issues,
the Ohio Minnesota, Somali daycare fraud issue, plus VI Bake
Ramaswamy for Governor of the State of Ohio. We're gonna
get to this fraud issues in Ohio in a moment.

(36:48):
If Jay's out there, Hey, I just said the fraud word.
Usually the phone lights up immediately. Joe and I were
just talking about here in the state of Ohio. Love
you Jay. In studio Common Please Judge Christopher McDowell well
recently had his life and his family's life threatened by
defendant going back to social media, among other things, this

(37:08):
powerful influencing force that too many people pay attention to.
I'm not blaming him. I don't know where the threat
came from, obviously one of the defendants in his courtroom,
but illustrating a broader problem we have. How do you
impose our enforced laws? How do you keep the peace?
How do you well get your politicians to act on
behalf of the American people generally when they're under constant

(37:30):
threat from random people around the globe. What do you
take seriously? And what do you not take seriously? What
do he takes seriously? What do you ignore? Good luck
sorting that one out in this crazy world we live in.
Inside Scoop Breitbart News. Caleb Caruza, he escaped Venezuela. He's
a writer for Breitbart, so a former native of Venezuela,

(37:51):
not an exile. Now he's living a free life. But
he'll be talking about what's obviously going on in Venezuela
and what's to come. And I note, with very very
great interest and curiosity, how long do you think Cuba's
gonna be around? Venezuela? Was the practically exclusive lifeline for Cuba.
They are out of oil in essence. So with Venezuela

(38:13):
and oil supplies cut off, Cuba is just on I
don't even can call it on life support. Donald Trump
says he doesn't even have to worry about invading Cuba.
We're not gonna do a bay of pigs. It's just
gonna fall apart on its own. I just feel sorry
for the Cuban citizens. Not really within your hands to
change your future when you live in an oppressive regime

(38:35):
that regularly prosecutes and often murders the political opposition.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So and after that.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Daniel Davis Deep Dive. We did get a special edition
of Daniel Davis Deep Dive on Venezuela yesterday. We're going
to continue that conversation today at eight thirty with retired
lieutenant Colonel. If you didn't get a chance to listen
to what Daniel had to say yesterday, check it out
on the podcast page fifty five cars dot com, where
you can also hear my conversation with Christopher Smitheman out Man.
He was really on fire yesterday. Police Chief Scott Hughes

(39:04):
as well as Andre Ewing All talking about violence in
the City of Cincinnati. Of course, the murder of that
eleven year old girl on the West End was just
a tragedy that we just cannot explain or understand. But
it also reveals a lot of the faults we have
with the City of Cincinnati and how it is run
and governed. Going back to the whole what in the
hell is the story on the security cameras in the
West End. If you read Scott Wartman's reporting over at

(39:26):
the enquire no one seems to really know. Apparently you
got to check with Duke Ennergy before put a security
camera on a utility poll. They say they haven't even
got any requests from the city. The promise for cameras
on the West End made a couple of years ago. Now, yeah,
let's go to the phones real quick. Here see what Cj'scott. CJ,
thanks for calling this morning. Appreciate you keeping me company.

(39:48):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Oh, thank you, and happy New Year to you.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Brian.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Thanks man.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
I hope Brian your law license is still active. It
is well because there might need to be a for
prosecutors across the country for fraud.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
There is so much fun.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
I was watching a report this morning from a guy
in San Diego twenty four million dollars and all he
does is walk in and get a new certificate for
a new daycare in a new building that he just rents.
And now he's got twenty four million dollars driving around
in a Rolls Royce.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
I don't know if that is a fake YouTube thing
or what. But the reality is is that satire has
to have an element of truth behind it. And all
of these guys are out there running around and there
is so much fraud that I don't think we have
enough investigators. I don't think we have enough prosecutors to
root this out.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
The only way you are going to root it out
is by cutting some of these programs and stop the spending.
But guess what, no Democrat and most Republicans, about ninety
percent of them, will not root it out because they
don't want to see their name on the nightly news
or on some TikTok video next to some four made
up AI kids who can't eat.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
And that's the problem we have. We have so much
money in the system. It is much easier to.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Be fraudulent and to do the wrong thing than it
is to do the right thing. And as Adam Smith
said a long time ago. Eventually the invisible hand is
going to get you, because only wealth will only follow
those who are moral.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I agree with all of that, and you're right. I mean,
even happens locally. We've been talking about this for a
long time. A lot of money handpicked nngos out in
the Greater Cincinnati area promising to do some altruistic work
needed by the city. Oh my god, we need a
program for this. We need a program for that. So
they allocate hundreds of thousands of dollars here, Give this
group that money, Give group that money. This is how

(41:49):
you end up putting money out of the world. Maybe
they're doing the work, maybe they're not. But there's never
any follow up. There's no report saying, yes, we gave
three hundred thousand dollars to this organization for the purpose
of doing filling the blank some altruistic thing. It either
worked or it didn't. We don't have any results to
show for it. This invites fraud abuse. If no one's
going to follow up on what you're doing with the

(42:11):
taxpayer money, why would you bother lifting a finger to
do anything to accomplish the goal you promised to accomplish.
You're right, way too much money and there's no built
in preventative measures. That's what I was thinking the other day,
and I've even commented on it regularly, you know's we
talked to Dave Hatter. The first and foremost priority for
a software developer should be security. Start with security and

(42:34):
then work out from there. But they don't care about that.
They want to give you a functioning product and they
ignore security for that. It's the same thing. Oh my god,
children are starving. We need billions of dollars to throw
at a program. Did you put anything in there which
prevents the idea of some idiot just signing up for
it and getting it without even proving that he or
she has maybe a Social Security number or legitimate business purpose,

(42:54):
isn't an illegal immigrant or alien or someone. I mean,
there's got to be checks and bounds is put in
and to stop it from going out the door in
the first place. And if those kinds of checks and
bounces existed in Minnesota, for example, or maybe even here
in Ohio, maybe we would get ahead of that and

(43:15):
we wouldn't have to worry about it as much. Was it?
The wine said, You know, well, you know, yeah, there's fraud,
but that comes that's the cost of these programs. Does
it have to be I mean, you all complained about
being short on money and short on resources, and we
need more money. We don't have enough money to fund
all the programs we want. Well, how about funding people
who are preventing the fraud, waste, and abuse to the

(43:37):
point where you might be able to save billions of
dollars from going out into the world fraudulently. There's money
that you don't have to worry about making up with
additional tax dollars. Hey, there's an idea govern of wine
here on the Somali daycare thing, pushing back against these

(43:58):
claims that these states Smali run day cares of defunding
the public. This isn't about Somalians, and this is how
the left traps politicians who are afraid of their own
shadow if it happens to involve the Somali community, and
it pretty much damn well did in Minnesota. It isn't

(44:21):
a racist thing to point out that the Somali community,
tight knit as they are, and a lot of them
in the Minnesota. State of Minnesota, the largest Somali community,
I think in the United States are the second largest. No,
we have the second largest. But they're all part of

(44:41):
the same community. They're friends with each other, they live
next to each other, they're family together. I guess word
gets around. It's pretty easy to rip the government off.
So this isn't about the color of their skin, their religion,
their country of origin. It just happens to be that
Somali's in this particular case, we're engaged in widespread fraud,
the abuse, to the tune of their thinking, as much

(45:02):
as nine billion dollars one state, basically one program. Isn't
the point going after the fraud, waste and abuse. But no, no, no,
you're you're you're a racist. No, I'm a taxpayer. If

(45:25):
invaders from the planet Remulac came in and started abusing
the taxpayer dollars and committed fraud, waste and abuse and
all these crimes, we go after them. Would it be
racist to go after the Remulacans? Fictitious as they are,
It doesn't matter. So don't cower in the face of
this claim. Oh you're just being right. No you're not.

(45:49):
It's a coordinated effort anyway. Governor Wine said yesterday, we
are as vigilant as we can about fraud. This on
the heels of at least some social media accounts alleging
that smally owned daycare centers here in Columbus have been

(46:13):
receiving public dollars without providing services to kids. Out We've
got these citizen journalists going out there. Nick Shirley was
one of them, and he is getting a world of
heat online. Leftists are coming after me. Why because he
exposed Minnesota fraud. If you're really concerned about the Somali
community of Minnesota, if you really believe that these young

(46:35):
kids need daycare, and they need education and training and
all that, and you find out that they're going out
and buying expensive cars and real estate and funding terrorist
organizations with the taxpayer dollars that you, in your altruistic
heart and your you know but where your bleeding heart whatever,
think that this money should go to the kids. You
should be as angry as anybody else that they're getting

(46:55):
ripped off. Nick Shirley, I think something like this would
be fraud is bad, But no, now people are coming
after me for exposing fraud. And who are all those people?
They're leftist? He said, And it's just a moment where

(47:15):
they could have really been like, Okay, you guys, let's
come together, let's tell everyone fraud is bad. Let's crack
down on the fraud. Instead, they come after the person
who's exposing the fraud. Yeah, shoot the messenger. And this
is a profoundly chilling effect on those who let social
media commentary rule their lives. Going back again to that

(47:38):
vv Ramaswami article, it's a really important read for you.
If you're going to be impacted by what random people
out in the world, literally anywhere in the world say
about you, or how they analyze what you are doing,
accusing you of racism when no, you're just trying to
stop fraud from happening, then you're going to be bothered

(47:59):
when you're not going to be rather inclined to be
like Nick Shirley and try to reveal it and do
what you can to well out it. To be a whistleblower.
I'm not going to step up for the plate. It's
like neighborhoods that are over ridden with crime. I'm not
going to be the one ratting the guys out. I
don't want to have the crosshairs focused at me. I'm
not going to be that guy. You're frightened into submission

(48:22):
and then the problem just festers even more. But here
in Ohio, courting the governor anyway, we're as vigilant as
we can be about fraud. Representative Josh Williams, one with
forty other representatives, sent a letter to the Dwine administration
asking them to investigate what has been exposed. He claims

(48:43):
to Wine that the Department of Children Youths has extensive
steps to prevent frauds, such as paying by attendance of children,
not the initial enrollment number, audits and surprise visits good
according to Governor to Wine quote, does fraud occur? Yes,
fraud occurs. Our job is to do everything we can.
No fraud is acceptable. Okay. Some have identified a lot

(49:13):
of areas of government here in the state of Ohio
that seemed to be overrun with fraud, waste, and abuse.
Six eighteen fifty five KRC the talk station Plumbtiye, Plumbing's
always plumbing done right with my friend six three here
fifty five KRCE the talk station. At seven o'clock hour,
toms Awastowski returns and one of the things he will
be talking about maybe the daycare fraud here in the

(49:33):
state of Ohio. I guess it's the end of the
career of Democratic Governor Tim Watson Minnesota, he announced yesterday,
dropping out of his bid for a third term as
governor amid stinging criticism over his massive fraud in the
state of Minnesota. Here's his statement. And you remember, many

(49:55):
people have already pleaded guilty to the c times that
have been alleged, and a whole truckload of people have
been indicted for criminal behavior relating to this fraud. So
there's a whole lot of legal action that's yet to come,
and a whole lot more people are going to get
prosecuted for this. So this is an ongoing investigation, and
the more we find out, the worse it looks for

(50:15):
most notably a guy like Governor Waltson Minnesota, who this
happened under his leadership. His quote, the political gamesmanship we're
seeing from Republicans is only making that fight harder to win,
referring to his good natorial race, I guess what political gamesmanship. Yeah,
I'm not going to say that out loud, Joe, he said,

(50:39):
but as I reflected on this moment with my family
and my team over the holidays, I came to the
conclusion that I can't give a political campaign my all.
Every minute I spend defending my own political interests would
be a minute I can't spend defending the people of
Minnesota against the criminals who prey on our generosity and
the syning superanter differences. Hmm, there's a whole lot to

(51:01):
wun package in there. I suppose he wouldn't have to
worry about defending his political interest if he was successful
in avoiding fraud, wasted abuse in the programs that he's
responsible for in the first place. He could be campaigning
on that. Look at all I did to prevent fraud,
waste and abuse. You know it will be billions of
dollars in taxpayer ripoffs if it wasn't for me and
my efficient administration. See, he can't say that. And who

(51:24):
thinks that he was woodshdded recently by the Democrat Party.
And here's one for you, maybe, Maureen, because Kevin McCarthy commented, well,
in Minnesota's entire Democrat administration should be resigning over this
fraud scandally. So this is not the end of the story.
Waltz is trying to leave because he could not win

(51:45):
I think the entire Democrat administration is going to have
to resign because this will not be the end. Amid
swirling suggestions alleging that Democrats were using the money to
fund their campaigns, similar allegations, although yet to be proven,

(52:09):
with regard to a lot of the NGOs that are
funded by the City Council and city government here in
the City of Cincinnati. Follow the money and does anybody
think that ultimately the money trail will lead to these politicians?
Wouldn't that be an interesting revelation? Six twenty six fifty
five KRC the Talk station cover Sincy New calendar year

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and never a bad time to get It's six thirty
two could you five KR City Talk Station, Very Happy
Tuesday to you. Tom's Austoff People Convention dot Org joins
the program at seven oh five talk about some state topics.
We hear from Common Police Judge Christopher McDowell threatened he
and his family threatened by a defendant. Frightening stuff. There
inside scoop with Kleb Caruso, former Venezuela and resident currently

(52:57):
writer for Breitbart. Hear what his life was like in
as well. Apparently it sucked. He got out Daniel Davis
steep dive. Also in the latest from Venezuela plus rushing
Ukraine apparently still fighting. It was good hearing from him
yesterday and got a quick update on Venezuela. So if
he didn't get a chance to listen to that one,
that would be at fifty five carecy dot com encourage
you get your iHeartMedia app WHI you're there? I won't

(53:18):
you do that? Can streme the content wherever you happen
to be? Hamilon County prosecutors decided they will not be
pursuing the death penalty against the guy that killed the deputy.
Remember May twenty twenty five, Rodney Hinton totally innocent deputy
run over by Rodney Hinton. Well, what they determine is
that he has serious mental illness and that would disqualify

(53:40):
him from receiving the death penalty under Ohio law. This
after testimony from a courted pointed psychologist to determine that
his mental illness impairs his rational judgment, along with two
other medical professionals who agreed with that assessment. Fox nineteen
Matt Schaeffer, thank you for reporting credit where credits do.
At least we still have some local reporting. Hinton's attorney,
Clyde Bennett said, we had an agreement by the State
of Ohio that that mister Hinton did, in fact have

(54:02):
a serious mental illness at the time of the events,
and that mental illness impaired his sense of judgment. He
was not in his right mind. That I've said that
since day one, so I'm very pleased with the stipulation.
Now the prosecutors and the defense agreed to this conclusion.
So this seems to be a foregone conclusion that he
is not going to get the dent On death penalty,
but it's pointed out that Judge Jodi Lubers is going

(54:23):
to need a review and accept that stipulation. Before the
death penalty, we had dropped corn at Hamilton County Prosecutor
County Pillage says, what we've done in our negotiation. We've
talked to Laurie Henderson, who's the widow of the victim
in this matter. We've spoken to several her several times
and her children. While not totally in agreement, they understand

(54:43):
the reasoning for doing this. We've also consulted with the
Sheriff's department. Deputy Henderson was employed with the Department's detail
that day. They've been advised and they understand why we're
doing this as well. So if accepted, Hinton could be
re arraigned on non capital charges or face life in
prison without p role. Likely going to be pleading not
guilty by reason of insanity. Kay, it goes without saying, doesn't.

(55:10):
So back to the allegations of fraud of Minnesota, we
know about that, but as people have been convicted, many
people have been are under prosecution. TikTok here in Ohio
talking about this Somali Minister of Foreign Affairs Abda Salaam Ali,

(55:33):
who apparently owned a homecare health company here in the
state of Ohio. The claim has now gone viral, as
you might imagine, been reported in the past that Ali
owned Right Choice Healthcare services in Ohio. Made twenty twenty
five article from the Somali based publication Somaliland Chronicle. Joe,
you still receiving the Somali Land Chronicle electronic or paper

(55:57):
paper anyway. It was an article about Somali citizen about
US citizens serving in Somali's federal government. Stated that this
guy previously built a healthcare business in Ohio, specifically Right
Choice Healthcare Services LLC. Records from Ohio State Secretary of

(56:19):
State's office going back to two thousand and nine reviewed
by Newsweek also lists Ali as a business owner. His
official biography with the Somalian Ministry of Foreign Affairs says
that he has a bachelor's degree in healthcare business administration
from the University of Toledo, and he touted his experience
as a founder of a healthcare business, though it did
not mention right choice by name. Accord to his biography,

(56:44):
before entering public sector, his Excellency, Honorable Abdi Salam Ali
established a successful career in the private sector, founding this
successful healthcare enterprise. There's been no evidence presented that his
business has been impacted by or implicated in fraud. Carently
the business does not still appear to be operational in
the URL for their website is now defunct. Maybe that's

(57:06):
Governor Wine getting ahead of fraud or getting behind it,
don't know. You can chime in if you'd like six
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(57:28):
Mississippi James. Welcome back to the morning show.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
Sir, All right doing okay?

Speaker 5 (57:34):
Man?

Speaker 7 (57:34):
I come in peace, love everybody. There's nothing you can
do about it.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
Hey man. We got we got waste, fraud and abuse
all over the place. Yes, sir, I will ever get
our hands wrapped around this from both sides.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Well, you know, ideally, Mississippi James, if our elected officials
owed us, like maybe your financial leonard, a fiduciary obligation
and ethical legal obligation to treat your taxpayer dollars with
the utmost respect that they deserve, and they could be
held accountable for not doing so, maybe we could do
something about it. But since they don't care, they collect

(58:15):
as much as they want, they have a printing press
to print off more than they collect. They don't give
a crap. It just goes out into the world. They
can say they did something because look, we started an MNGO,
we're funding the program. The problem is solved. No, the
problem's not solved, and you're not wan minding the store
with them where the money is going. But they don't.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
So we got to come together as the little people
to start from the bottom. Again, work all way up.
We need all hands on date to put pressure on them, yeah,
you know, to challenge them out. Woun't it vote right?

Speaker 8 (58:47):
You know?

Speaker 7 (58:48):
And that's the only source we got loan as a vote.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Stay in you know, well, James, you know the problem
with that, and you are right, and I'm a firm
believer in that. And you know, as many times in
the past I've suggested, why do we need term limits
when you and I have the ability to term limit
any politician by just not voting them back into office.
People don't pay attention, James, You pay attention. I try

(59:10):
to pay attention because this is what I do for
a living. You know, I call us weed dwellers. But
I mean, look, one in four people who are registered
to vote in the city of Cincinnati bothered to show
up to vote. How do you expect change when so
many people aren't even motivated to cast a vote, And
when they do cast to vote, quite often they're not
even paying attention to who they're voting for. They've just

(59:32):
brainwashed by this ideological obsession that if I am filling
the blank type of person, I must vote for Democrats
or Republicans. And they just go down the red car
or the pink slip or the blue slip. Vote who
for whoever? It is quite often an incumbent, and we
get the status quo, like the most recent election here
in the city. But if you bother to look at
the details of what any given politician has done or

(59:52):
refuses to do, then you might consider a different path. Sadly,
we've got binge watching, we've got Netflix, we've got all
kinds distractions, we've got social media. We have lives to live,
we have families to raise, and who in the hell
has any time to watch even a half hour segment
on the news where you get nothing more than a
sound bite, most of which has to do with access
Hollywood type crap.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I agree, and I agree, I give.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That sorry summary of the state of affairs. But you
know what, talk about it enough, you get people waking
up enough, and you get enough of this fraud, wasting,
abuse exposed. This is everybody, of all political stripes, money
that is being wasted and stolen. To say, is that
an issue that bears a political stripe?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
And you know, right here in my hometown of Meridia, Mississippi,
and I tell them we've been on the bottom so long,
there's nowhere to go. But uh so, let's start working
together and projectile this thing up. And I even tell them, hey,
Maridi can be the template for Mississippi, and Mississippi can
be the template for the United States if we build

(01:01:01):
this thing in the proper way and projectile it up.
I call it the sling shot and the board. Now
it's been stretched back so far. Now we let it
go in the right direction and we can make Meridian
great for everybody for the first time. I may seem
to listen not much action, but they conversation is being

(01:01:23):
put there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
That's where it starts. James, you're the kind of guy
that goes out in the community. We've talked about this before.
You are an active person. You want to change the
course of your neighborhood and your community. And if people
start talking about it, we'll call that phase one. After
talk and discussion comes action. But if you don't start
having that conversation and raising that awareness to where people

(01:01:45):
actually consider it a legitimate thing to be talking about
and a legitimate concern, whatever it happens to be, then
it's never going to happen. So I applaud your efforts
and I applaud your optimism, and I hope someday you
and I'll be having a conversation about the Wall Street
Journal article about Meridian and it's miraculous recovery after years
of well be him on the bottom of the pile.
Someday we'll have that conversation, James, with people like you

(01:02:09):
working on it. It could very well happen. You just
got to get people engaged like you are. God bless you, sir,
and a happy New Year to you and your bride,
and I look forward to seeing you at lunch sometime
this summer when you come back to town six forty
six at fifty five care see the talk station. Another year,
another opportunity to save money, be more comfortable. And I'm
still reeling over my duke energy bill. Has anybody else

(01:02:29):
gone through the roof of their energy bill station? And
Tom's Awastowski after the top of the air news, I mean,
I try to get this in with the risk of
hopefully not running over. I will read a little bit
more quickly, but Viva gramas so I've been talking about
his social media is a Trap for Politicians article, and
it's a wonderful summary about why maybe you should ignore
the crap that's going on there, and a message to
all politicians don't be influenced by it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
So when I'm in Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney during
her visit to the US in July twenty four, she
told me she never reads or watches news because she
doesn't want the media to influence her approach to governing. Instead,
she travels her country and hears directly from citizens. What
a beautiful idea, my vdk ramaswam. He's near resolutioner to
do something similar. I plan to become a social media teetotaler.
In twenty twenty six, a New Year's Eve, I deleted

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x and Instagram from my phone. I spent my newfound
time listening to more voters in real world Ohio, developing
more policies to make our state affordable, and being more
present with my family. I predicted any of my consumption
of social media will make me a better leader and
a happier man. Amen to the latter comment, my campaign
team will still use social media to distribute messages and

(01:03:36):
videos on my behalf, but I won't browse any of
it myself. There's a fine line between using the Internet
to distribute your message and inadvertently allowing constant Internet feedback
to alter your message. That isn't using social media, it's
letting social media use you. As suddenly ran a digitally

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centered campaign for president. I've seen this effect firsthand on
myself and my competitors. Politicians want to respond to voters,
and rightly so, but polls are expensive and infrequent. Social
media offers a tempting alternative, free, abundant, real time feedback.
It creates the impression that you're hearing directly from the

(01:04:19):
people and responding in kind. Modern social media is increasingly
disconnected from the electorate. The messages you're most likely to
see are the most negative and bombasted because they're the
most likely to receive rapid likes and reposts, and that
drives revenue for social media content creators. If you click

(01:04:40):
on one post about a topic, suddenly that viewpoint of
fear is everywhere you look, skewing your view of reality.
That's harmless. If you're a knitting hobbyist, who might overestimate
how many fellow citizens know the difference between a knit
and a pearl stitch on its own. Random people saying
outrageous things on the Internet and even making money money
from it isn't a major problem. But when those in

(01:05:03):
power mistake online commentary for real world consensus, they make
decisions based on distorted picture of what those citizens really want.
You know, as I read that, I'm thinking about this
whole idea that a man can claim to be a woman,
and we need to just embrace that. That's a very
minority opinion. Folks back to him. Worse, the online pulse

(01:05:23):
that politicians glean from social media is increasingly manufactured by
foreign actors and non human bots. A recent report revealed
that engagement with the X account for the now notorious
white nationalist Nick Fuentes shows signs of being quote unusually fast,
unusually concentrated, and unusually foreign in origin close quote. Another

(01:05:46):
investigation showed that hundreds of bots drove the pro Democrat
hashtag Blue Crew hashtag, amplifying false claims that the assassination
attempt on President Trump and Butler PA was staged. Politicians
who think they're taking social media cues from US citizens
are often mistaken. My experience, attorney Point USA America Fest

(01:06:09):
conference in December was a case in point. Delivered to
speech that US is a nation defined above all by ideals,
not by shared bloodlines. Based on social media comments beforehand,
I expected to be booed you scrolled through them after
you believe that's what happened. But in reality, I received
the standing ovation from a politically engaged audience of well
over twenty thousand attendees. In twenty twenty five, I saw

(01:06:32):
a spate of shocking racial slurs and wars on social media.
Yet that same year, I visited tens of thousands of
voters across all of Ohio's eighty eight counties, from inner
cities to farms, union halls to factories, Republican rallies to
one on one discussions with protesters, and I didn't hear
a single bigoted remark from an Ohio voter the entire year.
Social media's warped projection of reality is reinforced inside modern government.

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Political staffers on both sides of the aisles skew young
and hyper attuned to social media. Twitter was built to
imitate real life conversations, but in modern younger political circles,
real life conversations are imitating Twitter. As political commentator Rich
had Any observed last year, young political aids now complete

(01:07:17):
the most based one upping each other with increasingly unhinged
positions on race, sex, and who the good guys were
on World War Two. And if you've ever win sid
social media post by an official government account, remember the
person who wrote it is often a young employee who
takes most of his cues from the Internet. Over time,
the state itself begins to sound like X sound familiar

(01:07:39):
to anybody. None of this is say citizens shouldn't use
social media disway politicians. It's their constitutional right to do so,
but it's up to elected leaders to know what they're
responding to. Most Ohioans I've met want higher take home pay,
lower electric bills here here, and great education that prepares
their kids to join the workforce. Yet it's precisely because

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because these issues are so universal that they're among the
least likely to register on social media. Leaders who depend
on social media to gauge public opinion are looking through
a broken mirror. Thomas Jefferson famously observed the man who
never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he
who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is

(01:08:20):
nearer to the truth. Yes, traditional media is flawed. Broadcasters
push narratives and sensationalism sells on TV and in print,
but social media presents a new problem, coordinated influence that
hides behind armies of avatars, creating a false impression of
grassroots support. Its organic feel, combined with real time feedback loops,

(01:08:44):
makes it effects on elected leaders even more pernicious than
other forms of media. Think He's onto something. The result
of that, some of the most powerful politicians in America
live under constant pressure to please social media, an unenviable
confinement that we might call Twitter prison. Real leaders must
break free. It's fashionable these days for leaders to complain

(01:09:06):
about the influence of social media on politics but do
nothing to fix it. Yet the first step doesn't even
require new laws. We just need to practice what we preach.
That's easier said than done. My current years resolution resembles
past ones. I might be back scrolling X by March,
but for now I'm running the experiment, and I invite
my fellow Republicans to join me. Who knows it might

(01:09:28):
be the extra X factor that helps us secure victories.
In twenty twenty six, speaking volumes, there viviak Ramaswami stick
around Tom's Awastowski after the.

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He used to live in Venezuela. He got out and
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(01:10:12):
the latest in Venezuela at eight thirty and right now,
the return of Tom z Awastowski. You can find Tom
and his organization, We the People Convention dot org right
there at We the People Convention dot Org. Tom, it's
been a while since we talked. I think the last
time you and I talked was with regard to an
empower youth summinar. Welcome back, man, Happy new year to you.

Speaker 9 (01:10:30):
Well, good morning, Brian. It's so good to be with
you and your audience this morning. And happy new Year
to everyone, and happy turn and fiftieth birthday to America.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
It's gonna be a hell of a year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Yeah, it is, and you know, it's really the passage
of time. And of course I feel old. I remember
when we celebrated the two hundredth and the one thing
I do remember is everyone had bells out whenever the
declaration or the Declaration of Independence was signed, everyone had
bells and rang it. I think it was like two
o'clock or something. But that's about all I can remember
about the Bisonennial. But this would be a big celebration.

(01:11:02):
I know Donald Trump's planning on pulling out all stops
and making a real big issue of it, and I
hope maybe this is something that can unite the American people.
We certainly are in need of something to unify us.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:11:13):
Brian, I talked on my podcast this week about the
fact that we a representative Republic, is not a spectator sport,
that's participatory. And this idea that you know, Donald Trump
is going to celebrate our turn and fiftieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
That's just not enough. It's ours.

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
And so I called for everybody to start planning to
celebrate in their community, in their little town and their city,
in their township and their county, because over two hundred
and fifty years, Brian, we have done amazing things, and
I think this is going to be a real turning
point for our country because for the last twenty five years,

(01:11:51):
thanks to the Marxist left, starting with Barack Obama, our
nation has been subject to what's called negative self talk.
You stink sure that it's horrible. America is the worst
of everything. If we can have a year where we're
all talking about all the great things we've done, I
think it will bring us together and I think it's
going to make our country go off in a different direction.

(01:12:13):
So this is fortuitous, but it's participatory. So don't sit
back and just watch Donald Trump. What are you going
to do to celebrate our tour and fifth with birthday?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Amen to that. I couldn't agree with you more. And
I'm hoping we see a lot of maybe veterans organizations
getting together planning events, and I just I embrace your
optimism for a collective celebration as opposed to a collective condemnation.
Going back to viv Ramasamy's article about online social media posts,
you get the impression that there's not a single human
being in the world beyond you, Tom and me that

(01:12:46):
believes the United States should be proud of its heritage
and what we've done in spite of our wards. There
isn't a country out there that doesn't have some warts,
of course, but you know, we move past those, we
grew out of them. We've become better and better and
better every year of our existence, and we, through our
capitalism and our amazing wealth, have been able to transform
so many impoverished worlds and provided them with the benefits

(01:13:07):
of what capitalism can bring. And that's a crazy thing
about socialism, Tom. They keep wanting to take the money
that's earned by capitalists and it ends up ruining everything.
People quit working. What's the point of work if I
can enjoy the benefit of my labor without capitalist money.
You don't clean up pollution sites, you can't afford windmills,
if that's what you want to buy. It's all built

(01:13:27):
on the money created and earned by capitalism.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
Yeah, I mean, and this is going to be part
of the discussion, particularly with all the things that are
in the big beautiful bill that are going to come
to fruition this year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You're going to see capitalism at work.

Speaker 9 (01:13:44):
You're going to see you know, what's going to happen
with these reshoring of these manufacturing plants, even the Trump
you know, the things for the kids that are being
born to get the thousand domber of Trump funds where
they go into the stock market. Why didn't we do
that like fifty years ago. I mean, you know, it's
just we talked about capitalism, but we've got to teach it.

(01:14:05):
And instead of teaching it, we've got schools to teach
anti capitalism. We've got to turn this around, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
And they also teach the woke religion that carbon dioxide
plant food is killing us all which has ruined our
ability to generate electricity in the name of pursuing this religion.
Zero carbon, zero carbon one another thing Trump's been able
to accomplish. And check out the price of gasoline. Energy
prices have fallen. He's all the above on energy policy.
We have no longer subsidies for windmills that apparently don't

(01:14:32):
provide sufficient electricity. I mean, we're just moving in the
right direction. Maybe this is the year we rid ourselves
of that religion and move on to something saner and
in lo and behold, Tom, I gotta observe. I've been
a big fan of the concept of small modular reactors.
Look what it took artificial intelligence operations to get us
moving in that very sane direction zero carbon output in

(01:14:55):
spite of the fact that the green people hated it,
but yet it produces an abundance of electricity and a
very tight look. Bill Gates wants it, So I guess
we now are in a position and may be able
to get it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:05):
Yeah, and way too late. I mean again, this is
the sabotaging of America. This is what we're fighting. All
of your listeners know this. It's it's not like you know,
America just can't get it right. It's that literally, people
we elect to represent us, and many of those are
stolen elections sabotage us. And it's just like you were

(01:15:27):
talking about with the fraud. And it's not just Somali,
as you said, it's this. The fraud is way bigger
than anyone can even imagine. It's an all of government problem.
But why do we have that problem. Well, it's because
there's people in our government who hate America, who who
hate capitalism, who believe in Marxism because they didn't get

(01:15:47):
an education, they went to college to get indoctrinated. We
the common sense people of America this year are fighting
to turn that around and get those people out, and
you know it's going to be a hell of a fight.
But I think this year is a tipping point. I
think this is the year when we finally win the
war and drive the Marxist out of our government and

(01:16:09):
then out of our country.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
And let's hope that's the case.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
I certainly hope that. You know, but even if somebody
in government doesn't hate America, and I understand that's a
sinister and real concept that he just brought up. But
you know, government's almost like an illustration of how socialism
or communism works. You don't have to earn or make money.
You merely take it, and by taking it and have
the elite having the legal authority to take it pretty

(01:16:32):
much as much as they want. Considering the varying tax
rates we face in our country over the years, do
you want a seventy five percent tax rate used to be?
That way, they can take as much as they want.
They don't have to be accountable. They're not subject to shareholders,
they're not subject to boards of directors who are looking for,
you know, to improve the bottom line and to increase
efficiency and effectively manage the taxpayer. Dollars. We need to

(01:16:55):
rise up as taxpayers of all political stripes and demand
the end of for example, the fraud illustrated better than
anything else. I think I've encountered by what's going on
in Minnesota.

Speaker 9 (01:17:06):
Yeah, and it's even worse than you just described, because
think about it. Who works in government, whether it's your township,
your county, our state government. I'm not talking about the
elected officials. I'm talking about the people who are there
shuffling the papers. Most of them came out of college,
never work for a business. Do not understand that the

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money you're handling is you got to be protected because
you depend on it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
They work in government where the money just shows up.

Speaker 9 (01:17:37):
Sam, here's another pile of money, and what's your job. Well,
shovel it out the door as quick as you can
and don't ask any questions, and they get rewarded for that.
We have to start to talk to literally to the
smaller people in government and say, hey, do you understand
your job is to protect our money?

Speaker 7 (01:17:57):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
It's your grandparents' money, it's your parents, it's your brother's money,
it's your friend's money.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
And you're not doing that.

Speaker 9 (01:18:04):
You've got to ask the hard questions and don't give
our money away to people who don't deserve it. But
that's a cultural thing, Brian, and we've got to start
to change that culture. I think that's what the vek
Ramaswami's talking about. I think that you know, he understands
it's a cultural.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Problem, truly a cultural problem. Tom's Awastowski, we will continue
find his website, We the People Convention dot org. Some
great stuff there from Tom. We got more to talk
about it. N If you have KCD talk station, you
can find him at we the People Convention dot org.
Following issues important to well folks like you and me,
Tom z Awastowski joined the program back from a long hiatus.

(01:18:43):
Since you've been on the program, Tom, and I appreciate
what you're doing day to day. Let's move over to
Ohio issue specifically. Now we can talk about the state
of fraud in Ohio. Governor de Wine seems to suggest
that they do everything humanly possible to prevent fraud and
abuse in Ohio. I've heard reports to the contrary.

Speaker 7 (01:18:59):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I guess my dream in life is that going back
to this sort of concept of a fiduciary obligation of
our politicians owed it to us. With respect to our
taxpayer dollars, maybe there could be better accountability, we just
have to wait around for an election. But all those
people behind the scenes that are responsible for day to
day accounting for the dollars really don't seem to care either.
So I'm not quite sure where we are on that.
But isn't there a mechanism that we can put in place,

(01:19:22):
Like within the legislation, fraud avoidance and prevention needs to
bring priority number one. In order to get any single
dollar issue to a human being or organization, you must
fill in and do all of the following. Information needs
to be shared between Social Security and other agencies that
have the information, so we can determine citizenship, but the

(01:19:42):
propriety of Social Security number whatever, But all the frontwork
could be done to stop it from going out in
a fraudulent way. Or am I living a pipe dream?

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:19:53):
I mean, come on, we do this every day in
our businesses. You know, this is how America works, So
why does it our government work that way? Particularly Brian
with the you know, upcoming AI revolution. How much could
that help us with all this stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Right? And and the question is having a will to
do it?

Speaker 9 (01:20:12):
I mean, I go back to things like remember Josh
Bendel had introduced the checkbook program where everybody could report,
you know, they're spending and you can see it online. Right,
Remember that? And guess what happened to that, folks. When
Josh left office. He tried to get it put into legislation,
and they wouldn't do it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
They wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
It's not the law that they have to.

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
You've got to put your finances on you know, the Internet,
so that any citizen can see what your township is
spending or your city is spending. That's the problem. We
haven't built these tools that can really make a difference.
And so I think you're going to see some effort
to do that, you know, now that this fraud thing
is coming up. I mean, Bob Sprague and Favor and

(01:20:57):
those guys certainly have a lot of explaining to do
because it's really under them. You know, the Treasurer signs
the checks for these things, and it's responsible for making
sure these people are eligible. And the auditor is the
one who audits it. So two Republicans are right there
in the middle of it. Let's see what they got.
But they've got to you know, show us the goods.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Well, as I've observed quite often. You know, republican Ohio
is a very republican state. You think it wouldn't be
like hurting cats and Columbus to get people on the
right path. And yet there seems to be a whole
lot of infighting and turf battles going on. More it
seems to be more important to elected officials than actually
doing right by the Ohio tax payer. Speaking of taxes,

(01:21:39):
what's the thoughts on property taxes. They've been trying to
get some relief for the Ohioans in terms of property
tax There's a lot of seniors out there that can't
even stay in their own home even though they own it.
We got any progress on that one of late time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah, we've been We've got to get this done, Brian,
we just have to. It was egregious what happened.

Speaker 9 (01:21:58):
You know, this reappraisal of all your properties and then
you know you don't have any more money, but I'm
going to charge you thirty percent more in taxes. That's
just wrong. We've got to fix that. I've been working
with the ax Ohio tax people to try to help them.
I spent probably six months trying to raise money to
help them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
The problem is the polling.

Speaker 9 (01:22:18):
Shows that people are afraid of a total repeal, and
so we're working now on maybe a more modified idea
of like a roll back and then you know something,
how about this, Brian, how about at some point you
actually own your home and the government do have't lean
on it, Like whether that's if you pay taxes for
twenty years, you don't have to pay anymore, or something

(01:22:39):
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
We're working on it.

Speaker 9 (01:22:40):
I've been talking to the vag about it because I
think we've got to get you know, hopefully the next
governor to buy in on property taxes. And he hasn't
been on that totally. He's got kind of an income
tax guy. He wants to get rid of the income tax.
But we're raking progress. I'm hoping to have some information
on this, you know, in the next couple of weeks,
because we have to get it done. And Brian, let

(01:23:02):
me just take one more second to say, why do
we have to get it done. It's not just about
the cost of your property taxes. The problem for us
in Ohio is our government at every level is out
of control. The money they're spending is just beyond what
the taxpayer can afford.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
And how do you roll it back.

Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
You can't roll it back by talking to them. You
can't say, geez, can you cut spending. I think we
have to have a reset by taking some money from
them to send the message. Listen, you guys got to
get more efficient. You're going to have to implement AI
to save us money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
It can't just be more and more and more and more.
And I think the property tax issue is the way
we can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Yeah, I agree completely, you know, and I have to
observe and most people have known this, I've said it
a million times, and that the school funding mechanism has
been ruled unconstitutional like twenty plus years ago go by
the Ohio Supreme Court, and yet it still remains the
same and in play. So I struggle with that concept.
And also, since you mentioned about the finite number of dollars,

(01:24:09):
how is it that their elected officials approved six hundred
million dollars for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, if you
want to talk about an insult to the taxpayer of
the state of Ohio, that kind of thing really irks
me and my listening audience.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Well it should I mean again, they're billionaires. Yeah, I
mean they can afford their own bloody stadium. What are
we doing? And then and then it's hilarious because what
does the community really get out of it?

Speaker 9 (01:24:35):
Will they claim all this stuff about you know, your
restaurants and other activities shut up? Wouldn't you love right
to be able to start a business and to have
the state of Ohio pay for your building and all
your equipment.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Yeah, that'd be great. Let's let's do that. Let's not
called capitalism the folks, now, that's some form of socialism.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
I think it is. And that's how green energy companies
stay in business. The taxpayers support them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Right, huh ah, No chance. We got to stop all
of this. We're going to We're on the right path.
I want people to have hope in this year. I
want you to really.

Speaker 9 (01:25:09):
People are kind of confused, and this is why, Brian,
you play such a role. You talked about the whole
thing about social media. It is so important that people
have a place to come for truth. Your show is
more important than ever because we live in a society
that's based on lies and propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
That social media, that's all it is.

Speaker 9 (01:25:33):
You come to listen to Brian Thomas, because he's going
to give you the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
And that's what we all have to do.

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
Don't lie to yourself, don't lie to your spouse, don't
lie to your family, don't lie to your fellow citizens.
We must get back to truth and merit, and if
we do that, America will be great again.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
God bless you, sir for saying that. It's high praise
from you, Sir. I truly respect your opinion. It's a
very kind thing of you to say, and I am
blessed be in a position to try to do my
part along those lines, and I can only encourage others
to get engaged and do the same thing. You gotta
have conversations. You have to elevate these issues to something
where people start paying attention to it. Because Tom, as
I pointed out before, and you know it as well

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as I, we all have a lot going on in
our lives and quite often politics is the last thing
on our list that we want to pay attention to.
And that shouldn't be that way. But you got to
talk get to people talking before they start paying attention
and really maybe do the right thing at the ballot box.
Tom Zwastowski, find him at we the Peopleconvention dot Org.
Appreciate the work you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
It's been a pleasure having you back on all. The
best of health for you and your family in a
happy new Year to you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Thank you so much, looking forward to talk with you again.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Oh you'll be around, Tom, you can count on that
you're always welcome here. Coming up Hamilton County Common Please
Judge Christopher mcdowas speak peace court here in the Hamilton
County in study to talk about what is going on
in his world. And I remember if the judges have
a very difficult time right they're on the bench. They
must preside over very significant matters criminal and otherwise. And there,
of course a lot of people in the courtroom with
a p some of them not real please that their brother,

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their husband, their wife, whoever is being tried for murder
or some other crime or anything else. They have opinions
quite often that filters over and lands in the judges
lap in the form of insults, verbal or even threats.
And then you get the online element that I've been
talking about a lot this morning. Judge McDowell has experienced this.
He's got a great legal career. Hamilton County Court of
Common please. He was appointed by Governor de Wine in

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September of last year. He was with Strauss and Troy
prior to that, outstanding law firm. Prior to that, Dinsmore
Shoal another great firm, and of course US Army Judge
Advocate General Corps between ninety four and two thousand. Thank
you for your service for our country, Judge McDowell. Great
to have you here.

Speaker 10 (01:27:40):
It's great to be here, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
It's a tough job, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:27:43):
It's a lot harder than I thought, but it should
be hard.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Well, Yeah, A tremendous amount of responsibility comes with it.
I mean, if you're like me, you have a profound
respect for the law. It's one of the reasons why
I went to law school. I appreciate it, you know.
I enjoyed practicing when I did it, but I had
respect for it. And so many people just want to
ride rough shot all over it and threatening a judge,

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which I understand happens to you, is one of the
mechanisms that used to ride rough shot over and of
course trying to get a verdict, perhaps in a case
that you otherwise might not render, that is consistent with
the law. So what happened with you specifically? Apparently your
family also got threatened.

Speaker 10 (01:28:22):
Yeah, the threat was directed primarily to my family. Oh my,
the individual indicator that he was going to kill my
family if I send him to prison. And I sent
him to prison because that's where some people belong. Other
people don't belong there. But some people that's what's in
their future, and they don't like that that's what's in
their future, and they lash out. But we can't allow

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that to drive the train here. We have to do justice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
No, and again going back to my problem with social media,
same kind of thing. You know politicians, you know vv
ramosover me with this wonderful op ed that I even
read on the air this morning. You get this perception
of the public will, but it's all magnified by foreign actors, bots,
artificial intelligence, and so you get the perception that this
is the way most people feel or believe about any

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given issue, when it is not representative of what the
constituents want. But in your court of law, maybe it explains.
And I'll ask you to chime in on this. Your
experience with a verbal threat of death or a threat
to your family of death, is that maybe The answer
to why judges are so soft on crime maybe less

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of a political ideology, that these defendants maybe had a
bad home life, or otherwise we're victims of some sort
of societal problem and therefore shouldn't be held accountable for
their crimes. Or maybe it's something like what you experience.
Any thoughts on that.

Speaker 10 (01:29:47):
I like to think that every judge does their duty,
and that no judges acting because they're afraid of what
may happen as a result of a decision. I think
that what we see here is a general breakdown in
the respect for the law in society, and I see
this every day in my courtroom. The way people dress,
you see, you know, women wearing yoga pants, you see

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men wearing T shirts, jeans. It's not like it was
thirty years ago when I began practicing law. The way
people talk to the court, you know, it's people have
gum in their mouth, people are yeah, it's instead of yes.
It's a real lack of respect. And when I was
a defense attorney, I first began telling people, well, you're

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going to go to court, dress like you're going to
go to church. But then I realized the people don't
go to church. And then I'd say, dress like you're
going to go to a job interview. Then I started
to realize they don't go to job interviews either. A
lot of the problems that I see are people who
just don't know how to adult. They don't know how
to show up on time, they don't know how to dress,
and they don't know how to talk because they've never

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been told how to do those things. Because our society
is breaking down.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Wow, that's a whole lot to swallow. We're going to
break down a little bit and see if we can
figure out some of the reasons why that might be
break down of the family structure. Perhaps that's my first reaction.
Hold on seven thirty seven fifty five krecy the talk station,
we get a word and Thomas with Judge Christopher McDowell.
Him uncanny common please judge. He sees all kinds of
cases and most recently was threatened by one of the

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defendants in his courtroom. Actually he was more his family
had been threatened. Well, that since chills down my spine.
My friend. You know, I've commented before, I'm sure there's
a lot of haters of Brian Thomas out in the world.
I've only received a couple of what I consider quasi
credible threats, But I never go on social media to
read anything about what anybody's saying. I'm sure there may

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be more than out there that I know of. If
I don't see him, they don't bother me. You don't
have that ability in your courtroom. You're there face to
face with the defendant and the surrounding family members and friends,
which I understand is maybe a bigger part of the
problem in your courtroom.

Speaker 10 (01:31:54):
Oh yes, it's the people in the gallery often present
the biggest problem because there can be sometimes fifteen, twenty
or more family members, and you know, I have security
in the courtroom, but I don't, you know, if they
want to bum rush me, it's a real problem. But
gaining control of the courtroom can be very problematic when

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things don't go the way the family wants them to go.
So I try to make it very clear that I'm
not going to put up with any outburst, any hysteria.
I kick people out of the courtroom quite frequently, tell
them to go out in the hall, leave the courthouse
if they can't behave It's not uncommon.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Well, someone the on's told me it's not the death
threats or the threats that are you read or hear
that are the real problem. It's the ones you don't
hear that are the problem. The most likely to actually
engage in some sort of active violence toward any person
for whatever reason, they don't talk about it out loud
ahead of.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Time, right.

Speaker 10 (01:32:53):
I mean, it's it's not just me that is the
subject of this. It's judges now more and more throughout
the United States. Judges that are being threatened because it
is this breakdown of a respect for the law that
we see in this country. I'll tell you that the
place that I feel safest is actually in my courtroom.
I have deputies in the courtroom, and they are very

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highly trained. They are professional. They really do a fantastic
job of bringing these inmates in and out of my courtroom.
If I need extra security, I will tell my bailiff,
you know, get somebody up here right away. Somebody will
be there in just minutes or seconds. And so I
feel very secure in the courtroom. You have to go
through a metal detector to get into the building and

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all that, so I feel secure in the courtroom. I
got to tell you, it's really leaving my house in
the morning going.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
To the car is exactly what I was going to
ask you about, because you can feel safe with all
that security you have in the courtroom. But you mentioned
the threat was against your family. Your family doesn't enjoy
that level of protection, at least I presume not. And
I'm not going to break down, well, how much is
protection or security you've got in your own personal home.
But therein lies the challenge. JD Vance's vice president jd

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Vance's home got vandalized by a kid who was able
to walk up the driveway well on a police on
an unmarked a security car and then start hammering on
the windows while the Secret Service agent he's yelling at him.
I mean, you'd think they'd beat like the military in
terms of security going on there, the vice president, and
that was able to happen. You can't buy one hundred

(01:34:25):
percent security anytime.

Speaker 10 (01:34:27):
No, you can't. You can't at all. The Hamilton County
Sheriff's Office did volunteer and I did accept to come
out to my house and do an assessment of my house.
If if there was a threat that was you know, imminent,
they would come and they would sit in front of
my house in the squad car if I wanted that, but.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Again, you can't.

Speaker 10 (01:34:46):
You can't live that way. You can't live your life
that way, and justice cannot be thwarted because of this.
If we allow terrorists to sort of win, if we
cave to them, then you just get more of it.
And so we have to be brave and we have
to stand up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Excellent point is going to ask you about that. I
think maybe the reason for this increase in threats to
the likes of judges and others politicians. I imagine a
part of this as well is because quite often those
threats bear fruit and they ultimately can get their way.
They'll either get lenient justice, they will be found not guilty,
even if they're deserving a guilt, although that will be
a bench trial, not a jury trial. But they see

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people rioting in the streets, like Black Lives Matter goes
out and says all police are evil, and big corporations
start writing them checks. That's a sign of victory for
those who make those types of threats.

Speaker 10 (01:35:35):
Absolutely. I mean you see them protesting out in front
of Supreme Court justices homes indeed, and so basically they're
trying to get their way through the threat and intimidation,
and justice cannot work that way. Justice has to be blond,
and it can't be done because I'm afraid of somebody
or I'm afraid of the consequences of what is the

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correct decision. And sometimes the correct decision this people need
to go to prison. Sometimes it's they need treatment. But
every case is its own individual case.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
And that's what a good judge does. Each case is different,
It's evaluated differently. The circumstances are weighed, the under given
the who the defendant is, and what the circumstances are
in front of the court that day. The facts underline
the crime that's been committed. But it takes responsible men
like you to make sure that the system still works
and to the extent these threats have any impact on

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any judge, this is I mean, I can't see anything,
anything at all but bad coming out of this. We
got to stand up to it. Let's let's see we
can't figure out how we go about doing that. One
more with common Police Judge Christopher mcdoell, gotta take a
quick break here at seven forty seven. If if do
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(01:36:52):
with Judge Christopher mcdowan studio talking about the well, the
trials and tribulations of being a judge in this hot headed,
angry world we live in, and of course societal deterioration,
as he pointed out people coming in and sweatpants. I mean,
you know, I practice law. You had to wear a
suit and tie, and you had to wear a suit
and tie, and your clients were always responsible for, you know,
looking good. It was for their own benefit.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
You go in, you have a nice appearance. The judge
is probably gonna look at more favorably on you than
if you've got what would you see? Do we say
in a scarfaced T shirt on when drug defendant in
your courtroom? Oh yeah, Oh that makes sense speaking of drugs,
since we were talking off air about it, and I'm
not sure that you and I can come up with
a quick solution for what ails society along those lines,
but suffice it to say, it's crept into your courtroom.

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You have been threatened, and your family has been threatened
with physical violence, death. Even I like to think since
you sentenced that man to prison in spite of the threats,
nothing followed up. Did you hear any follow up threats?
Or because you sentenced me, you are going to get
it now that kind of thing, or did it just
go to go away?

Speaker 10 (01:37:55):
The deputy sheriffs took care of the matter.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
He was in room A, he was arraigned.

Speaker 10 (01:38:00):
Judge Josh Burkowitz gave him two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars bond.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
He's a good guy.

Speaker 10 (01:38:05):
Judge Burkowitz is a fantastic man. I know, I know
it's a huge loss to the judiciary.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
That it was a tragic loss. And of course, if
he was in front of Judge Silverstein, she probably would
have let him out with no bond. Oh our bond
right own recognizance. And they're in illustrates of the promiy.
Is it that they want society to deteriorate? I mean
they put the entire public at large in jeopardy When dangerous,
demonstrably violent, with long record individuals are allowed out with

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own recognisance bonds.

Speaker 10 (01:38:35):
It's a matter of where your focus is. If your
focus is on protecting society, then you issue a heavy,
strong bond to make sure that this person does not
get out and hurt other people. If your focus is
on the individual, on the defendant, you know, what does
this defendant need. Oh, he doesn't have a job, he's
he can't make the bond, so we're going to not

(01:38:57):
give him a cash bond. It's the focus is different.
The focus is on the defendant and what can we
do to help the defendant versus what can we do
to protect society. It's an entirely different mindset.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
It really is, well and I would say the key
leg of law enforcement is the prosecution and punishment is
the deterrence to other people doing the same thing. You know, sorry,
it sucks with you. You had a bad life, but
you've violated someone's rights. You harmed them, you killed them,
you stab them, whatever the case may be, You're going

(01:39:31):
to be the illustration and the example for the rest
of the people out in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
To not do it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
You're going to jail.

Speaker 10 (01:39:37):
That's right. And it's the same thing for people who
violate probation. If you have terms and conditions of your
probation and you violate those terms and conditions, there has
to be a consequence. I can't just continue to put
you on probation. Again and again sends you back into
the community. At some point we have to say you're
not amenable to probation, and so what we need to

(01:39:57):
do is separate you from society to protec tech society
from people who are violent and who are not going
to change their ways, people who just want to do drugs,
want to harm people.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Well, real quick here, since we're almost out of time
and judgementdal, I guess everything old is new again? Off
the air, you said that it has been a huge
increase in powder cocaine cases. It's like nineteen eighties again.
It is nineteen eighty eight in my courtroom. What is
old is new?

Speaker 10 (01:40:26):
I have seen a tremendous increase in powder cocaine. At
first I thought it was an anomaly. Now it's I'd say,
almost every day I see cocaine, and I also have
to ask is this powder cocaine or crack cocaine? And
I'm also seeing a slight increase too and crack cocaine.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
And that was the wave of in the eighties. It
sorted with powder, it turned into crack and it was
all the rage. And you know, here we are back again.
You would think that the presence of fentanyl in literally
every street drug out there, would prevent people from going
out and buying street drugs because oh, that's right, you're
going to die.

Speaker 10 (01:41:01):
Yeah, you would think. What's really scary at college students? Yeah,
college students who think they're taking an adderall or a
xanax or something and they go into their dorm room
and they never wake up again.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Such a tragedy because it's laced with fentanyl. Well, hopefully
that the Trump policies on the border and the efforts
to eliminate drugs coming into our country will bear fruit.
But I think we have no one to blame about
ourselves for our drug consumption. In large part, there's always
the demand there and there's always someone willing to fill it.
Judge McDowell, a great time having in the studio. Real

(01:41:35):
pleasure for you. I'm for you to come in. Always
enjoy talking face to face with folks, and I appreciate
you standing up for the justice system and being the
illustration of the type of judge we need these days
so desperately. And keep up the great work. You always
got a former venue here to talk about what's going
on in the court system. I appreciate you coming back
thank you very much. Happy New Year to you, seven

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fifty seven. Right now inside scoop a bright barton is
Caleb Caruz. I haven't talked with him, but he is
a former Venezuelan native fled to the country.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Coming out of city Hall today, locally, nationally, everywhere in
between fifty five KRS the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Eight O five Canto six at fifty five kr CD
Talk Station, A very happy Tuesday to you, Daniel Davis,
Steve Dive at the bottom of the hour. Course, of
course we'll be talking about Venezuela, as we will with
my next guest, and it is a pleasure to have
him on the program. Christian Caleb Cruzer goes by Caleb Cruize,
we'll call him Caleb. He escaped Venezuela in twenty twenty four,
but prior to escaping venor at Venezuela, he was hired

(01:42:36):
by Breitbart to write a column called My Socialist Hell,
which he began doing in twenty nineteen. Caleb, it is
a pleasure to have you on the fifty five KRC
Morning Show. Welcome, sir good marnin Man. Thank you so
much for having me, and thank you for being on
the program. And doing what you're doing. It's so important
that you were doing what you're doing. And I'll remind
my listeners as I always do when I start out
this segment inside scoop at Breitbart News. Book mark the

(01:42:59):
site Breitbart b R E I T b A r
T dot com. You'd be glad you did, and you
can read what Cale has been writing about. Can I
ask you it? We'll die have obviously so much to
talk about to unpackage with Venezuela right now. You were
writing for Bredebart doing the mysocialist help column from Venezuela.
Did that present a threat to you given the how

(01:43:21):
crazy the administration there was under Biduro.

Speaker 11 (01:43:25):
Yes, yes, people have told me that. I kind of
downplay it personally, but it was a huge risk because
I have this president. This is an actual story. Back
in twenty fourteen, one of my neighbors happened to be
a journalist and she got kidnapped in broad daylight the
righteops at her home. This was covered by Brightbot at

(01:43:45):
the time. It was one of the few outlets in
internationally that actually covered this story. Thankfully, she was able
to leave Venezuela and safe and sound.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
She was found.

Speaker 11 (01:43:55):
She was rescued, but I had that president already like that,
that personal president, that there is always a risk of
with the regime, because we're talking about a highly authorative
regime with a brutal, repressive apparacess that has jailed journalist,
that has jailed people. Last year, they jailed sixty elderly doctor,

(01:44:16):
sixty something year old doctor, simply because she posted a
message on what'sapp critical of the REGIN. So it was
a risk, yeah, it was. It was definitely worth it
to get the boys out there. And I appreciate that.
I'm always thankful to brag, but well then giving me
that opportunity, because it was a very important thing to say,
how to tell the story of how things just how

(01:44:37):
bad things got down there on the Rumadurova gyms and
its socialism and policies.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
And judging from what I'm reading about your life in
vent as well, and nobody better to speak about it
in spite of the fact that Bernie Sanders and the
likes of Sean Penn think it was a utopia that
we all need to emulate. Not quite. So let's talk
about your mother who had who passed away in Venezuela,
for one, of medicine that isn't even available in the country.
How long has this been kind of going on?

Speaker 11 (01:45:05):
Yeah, that's the healthcare situation in Venezuela is a complete disaster.
There was lamp and there are still lamp and shortages.
You just cannot you just cannot go to kind of
expect to go to a hospital and actually receive treatment,
even in private clinics. That's just how bad things things were.
So my mother, she was a doctor, so I was

(01:45:28):
always had some insight without the shortcomings of the Venezuelan
healthcare system under the both public and private. She got
diagnosed with cancer in twenty fifteen, and by then the
situation in Venezuela was already collapsed. Getting the treatment she

(01:45:48):
needed was outright impossible. We had to get some alternate
chemos arapy that wasn't the ideal one, but it was
better than nothing nothing obviously without the right treatment. Eventually
she passed away in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
You know, not to interject personal realities. I literally had
my update doctor visit with my cancer doctor. I have
lymphom and I got to go back to treatment. I
literally said to my wife when I got back from
my appointment, I'm glad I don't live in Venezuela. As
upset as I am about having to get chemo again.
At least we've got it here. Caleb.

Speaker 11 (01:46:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, but you got this, You got this.
I'll be rooting for you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Well, thanks for him. I'm not looking for Sybothy. I'm
just thankful for the American medical system. As crazy as
as it might be from time to time, it's nothing
like the pain that you're living or that the Venezuelans
are living through. Also, I understand you had spend a
lot of your day searching for food on the black market.
How do every day Venezuelan survive? I just it's beyond
me to understand that.

Speaker 11 (01:46:46):
Okay, So the situation in Venezuela has rapidly evolved unchanged
over the past ten to fifteen years. Back then, when
I wrote those articles, it was extremely difficult to find
even the basic things like toilet paper, oil or rice,
what have you? Even toothpaste. I actually I always say
this story because I got into a fight over toilet

(01:47:08):
paper in late twenty thirteen. It wasn't my proudest moment
in my life, but it happened. But that's how that's
how the country situation pushed me to behave that that day.
Had to fight over people and push people just to
secure a bit of toilet paper because I were only
limiting one per person just to have something for my family. Eventually, yeah, eventually,

(01:47:32):
the rush the shortages got so severe, especially between twenty
fourteen to twenty eighteen, that the regime instead of fixing
things up, they just clamped it down with the socialist policies.
But they did first was implement weekly rations based on
the last number of your national edic card.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Let's stay.

Speaker 11 (01:47:51):
For instance, mine my Benezula national edit card is in
the number eight. That meant I was only allowed to
purchase some of that stuff on Fridays, but by Friday
there wasn't By Friday there was nothing left. Pretty much,
eventually this change into a system that doesn't function anymore, thankfully,

(01:48:12):
wherein you would have to scan your fingerprint outside in
supermarkets to be allowed to purchase things. Over time, the
regym for maybe they saw light, I don't know. They
ease some of these restradictions and now the thing is
that you can find things. But the regim pushed everyone

(01:48:33):
into such levels of extreme poverty that most people just
can't afford it and buy food and buy anything.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Well, you would think even under the least under the
Biden administration, as open as our border was and as
many Venezuelans who left the country and flat. I know
a lot of the wealthy Venezuelans got under the job
as resume at least that's what I understand. But the
rest see to be how to make their way to
the border. You had to escape Venezuela, and he did
so in twenty twenty four. Was a difficult thing to do.
Is like escaping you sort of like Nazi occupied Berlin

(01:49:05):
or something when the wall was up. What do you
have to go through to get out?

Speaker 11 (01:49:09):
Well, the way they do it is that you know,
they have to save face and pretend that they are
the good guys fighting the good fight against America and
the world, et cetera. The way they do it is
not unlike the Burtling Wall, in which they let they
contain people in. You can go out, but they don't
make it easy for you to go out. First of all,
because not everyone has the money to travel, and secondly

(01:49:32):
because getting you can go out, but if you go
out without your documentation, let's say, passports, their certificates, your work,
your diplomas. You know diplomas have you have to go
to the legalization apple still process to be able to
have some validity of them outside the country. At the
time my mother passed away, she was undergoing that process.

(01:49:55):
So after she died, I have to go to every
office and get all her diplomas back for safe keeping.
The way I left Venezuela because maybe maybe it was
just me. And on the last day my mother died,
I promised her I would take care of my brother
because he has he has some disabilities, and I promised
her that I would take care of him no matter what,
and I will get him out of the way, find

(01:50:17):
a way healthy out of the country. Now I tried
to do. I tried several approaches. I just did other
resources or things that I didn't wanted to do it illegally.
So ultimately my last resource to get my brother out
was to get him Italian s thediasenship to our father,
who is an Italian man. This took me several years

(01:50:37):
to gather all the documentation and the birth certificates. I
even had to bribe my way in to get my
own birth certificate, because that's just how cor OpEd Venezuela
is nowadays. It took me years, but eventually I, thankfully,
thank God, I got everything done and the right way,
and we're here.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
And in spite of the fact that you're now living
in Italy, you're still reporting on things in Venezuela. I'm
certain that you have many contacts remaining in Venezuela. Do
you with the general sense of the population as you
understand it, Caleb, about the reaction to the capture of
Nicholas Maduro and his wife and the prosecution of him
in the United States. What what do you get a
sense of from the reaction of the people you've talked to?

Speaker 11 (01:51:18):
Okay, from the people that I've talked to. Dave told
me that everyone is happy, but you cannot express just
how happy you are because, Okay, Maduro is gone, his
wife is gone, but the regime is still there. The
entire brutal, repressive apparatus is still intact, so you don't
have the freedom to go out and celebrate in the

(01:51:38):
same manner that you see all the Pennezula outside the
country have been doing right. So I've spoken to some
relatives and acquaintances have you've told me that the general
consensus is that everyone has no idea what's going to happen.
Everyone's in on a shutout of uncertainty. But everyone is
just trying to live their lives right now because I
don't playing it safe and don't don't don't don't go

(01:52:01):
in out celebrating. This is the smartest thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Well, I might go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:52:08):
I know people have told me. No, We're just going
to pretend like nothing happened. They went to work yesterday Monday,
just like any other day. They came back home, they
eat some food and the rest, because that's the smartest
thing to do with unless the one according to the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
Of the regime understood. And we're in a state of
flux right now. And I understand why the citizen room
might not be out celebrating given that there's still this
police apparatus in place, which is run. I know Vice
President Delsi Rodriguez is sort of a question mark right
now which direction she's gonna do. But she's currently the
acting president. But the Interior Minister, a person named Dio

(01:52:46):
Sado Cabello, and the Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino sound like
they're more thuggish loyalists to the Majuro type regime. They
remain in power, and they also are under indictment here
in the United States of America. Do you have any
understanding or expectation what those two individuals, Padrino and di
Esato Cabello might do by way of response to Donald

(01:53:08):
Trump's imploring them to play nice or suffer the same faith.

Speaker 11 (01:53:13):
Well, President Trump gave Maduro several chances over the past month.
They gave him several opportunities to leave the country under favorable,
favorable terms that personally, I don't think he deserved. But
it is what it is, and we will see. We
don't know how they're going to react. Because the Socialists
of Regin the highest, the top brass, let's call it

(01:53:37):
that way. The top brass is composed of several suctions.
You had Maduro and his wife, theos Dad or the
interior minister, and the defense minister patrinal Ops. They come
from the military wing of the of the VAGIN. They
were alongside Hugo Shavis, who was also a military man,
whereas Maduro was part of the civilian wing of the VAGIN.

(01:53:58):
Because he used to be a boss driver and a
union worker syndicate leader back in the day. Now they'll
see the current acting president. She's also a civilian. She
was Maduda's vice president. She was she was also her
foreign minister and occupied other positions in the past. And
her brother or her Rodriguez, he is the current head

(01:54:20):
of the parliament or the Venezuelan Parliament, which is also
completely controlled by the Regin. So the Deligous family is
essentially one of the most powerful families in the in
the country because you have the sister that he controls
the executive right now as acting president, and you have
the brother who controls the parliament. The way I see

(01:54:43):
it is that they I hope that they understood that
President Trump isn't playing and they gave Maduro. He gave
Maduda several chances. He didn't took any of that. He
didn't took any of those chances. He kept up playing hard.
And now he knows the consequences of it because Cavejo
and Paderno are also wanted on drug trafficking charges and

(01:55:04):
they are included in the indictment of that that just
got on sealed against Madudo.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Well, the entire world seems to be unified in their
assessment that Maduro stole the election, meaning Vice President Rodriguez
is currently in power also the beneficiary of a stolen election.
Will they in state the properly elected UH president at
some point, do you think or are we going to
start all over the brand new election? What's your what's

(01:55:29):
your understanding about where we're going to go from here
on that?

Speaker 11 (01:55:32):
Well, well, as you mentioned, Delsey is the acting president
on the Barbia. This is under the assumption that Maduda
was a legitimate president, which he was not, which he
was not.

Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:55:44):
They are even ignoring the constitution that says that if
a president isn't unable to serve his functions before the
first half of his term, you will have to call
for snap elections, which isn't happening right now. But we
are that it's a complicated, uncharted scenario in which we
should maybe probably hold new elections where we are not.

(01:56:06):
The conditions to hold free elections are simply not there,
so we will have to go on terms some sort
of transition period, little by little until things until the
conditions for a new election perhaps can happen. And because
the elegym controls the military. There is no they control
the electoral Council. The conditions for the free elections are

(01:56:28):
simply not there right now.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Well, and at some point I suppose the US is
going to have to get involved in maybe bringing about
some stability for the elections. I don't know how that's
going to happen. What do you see at this point
to be the biggest challenge maybe that Donald Trump is
facing and trying to bring about the stability that we're
talking about here, sir.

Speaker 11 (01:56:46):
The biggest challenge would be they'ls herself, because although she's
allegedly operating with America, she's also acting all tough and
almighty inside the country. They just pass a degree that
supposedly Maduro signed on the same day he got captured.
Don't ask me how, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
I don't know how.

Speaker 11 (01:57:09):
Yeah, perhaps maybe, maybe maybe. But the decree there is
a specific article that says that grants the police are
law enforcement in Venezuela the authority to unrest and detail
people who are quote unquote cooperating with the attack on Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Well, sir, I cannot thank enough Caleb Cruzer for spending
time my listeners and me today. I appreciate what you
have been doing since twenty nineteen. Yet, Brightbart, and despite
of the fact that, yes, you were under threat of
maybe disappearing, as the case may be, you did the
right thing. You continue to do the right thing. We
will continue reading what you write and hopefully have you
back in the program real soon to talk about things

(01:57:49):
as they unfold and develop, hopefully for the benefit of
the Venezuela and people. Caleb, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:57:55):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
You can. You can.

Speaker 11 (01:57:57):
Obviously you can find the stuff right at Bridbirth you will.
You'll find all the breaking news at the homepage. But myself,
you can find it mostly at the on the top
of the international section. I do it several sections, and
there's one for Latin America.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
I do it every single day. That's why I always
recommend my listeners bookmark the website brightbart dot com. Caleb Cruiser,
God bless you, sir. You're always welcome here on the
fifty five kres Morning Show. Stay well and keep up
the great work. Eight Station Tuesday, it's time for the
Daniel Davis Deep Dive this week chapter two. We had
a special edition with him yesterday. Given the situation of Venezuela,

(01:58:32):
and of course we weren't able to unpackage all that.
Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant colonel, has his own podcast. You
can find them wherever you get your podcasts, and I
recommend you do that. Daniel Davis, dep dive, Welcome back,
my friend. Always a pleasure talking with you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
I joy to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Thanks for going giving me back your second day in
a week. It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
Well, we could talk every single day and still not
be able to unpackage all this nine cents. I mean,
let's face it, and we might get to it. There
is still a war between Russia and Ukraine going on
out there, but it's it's been overshadowed, of course by
the military action in Venezuela. And again I got to
salute the American military. Come down wherever you want on
the exercise. It's validity or anything, damn it. Our soldiers

(01:59:10):
did a hell of a good job, a well oiled
machine operation that was, and not a single loss of
American life except a lot of Cubans apparently went down
in that one. Thirty two has been the reported number.
And real quick on just on that point, Daniel Davis,
why was Maduro being surrounded by Cuban protectors and armed

(01:59:31):
personnel when he's got his own army, navy, and air force,
apparently all commanded by Interior Minister Diesato Cabello and Defense
Minister Vladimir Padrino, who are still issues in this whole
equation as we move forward. Didn't you have his own people?
What's with the Cubans?

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
Yeah, he did. I think that part of the reason
for that is to kind of rotate people around as
an additional means of security, so that you tried to
avoid what apparently did happen, which is somebody on the
inside turning against you. And so you had somebody that
you think is definitely loyal from the outside because Cuba
literally relies for their economic life on Cuban oil or

(02:00:12):
on Venezuelan oil. And I think the idea was, I'm
gonna have somebody from the outside who can we can
keep a closer eye on. They don't have connections with anybody,
They're not gonna conspire with anybody on the ground. Uh,
and that's gonna keep me safe. And uh, you know
that's certainly not the way it turned out. I mean,
they didn't go they didn't go down passively. They they
did die fighting, but uh yeah, it turned out to

(02:00:35):
be not.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Enough, not quiet enough. Now the as we move forward
here that it's a big open question about what's gonna
happen next. Now I mentioned the two military guys, the
Cabello and Pedrino, who are really I guess, diehard Chavista types,
the military types. But you also have the current acting president,
Vice President Delasia Rodriguez. She's seems to be kind of

(02:01:02):
playing it, not neutral, sitting on the fence, but she
hasn't embraced the idea of working with Donald Trump going forward.
But she hasn't outright rejected it and say no, no,
We're going to fight to the finish. They're still trying
to figure out the hand that they've been dealt and
what they're going to do going forward. Because I know
that Cabello and Padrina both have criminal indictments against them

(02:01:22):
as well. So it's conceivable anyway that another military operation
could go in and cut off the heads of the
what what what is of the military there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
Yeah, that's the implication, that's the threat actually that hey,
we can come back at any time, but I'll just
tell you we can't that that card has been played.
There's you'll you'll never have another opportunity to go in
like this with the surprise uh and have that success,
because now then they're aware of how this would work,
what the what the process is, where the dangers are,

(02:01:52):
and now then they'll be ready. Even though they were
caught with their pants down here. It won't happen twice.
And if anybody thinks that we can just go in
with another clean snatch and grab, it's just not how
it works in the real world. The other thing that's
that for for Rodriguez especially is like I said, that
there's pretty strong evidence that there was some sort of
inside double agent top cooperation, which is one of the

(02:02:15):
reasons why we were able to get in so easily
to the inner sanctum of Maduro himself. And whether that
person has been identified, whether that's somebody who left with
the with the with the helicopters, or whether they're still
on the ground somewhere, there's got to be a fear
inside of the power hierarchy who else is a double agent?
So they got to be real careful right now they're
trying to figure out who they can and can't trust,

(02:02:36):
and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a purge
going on, anyone's even who's even suspected. So they got
to get their house clean inside first before they can
feel confident. But she is in a tough position, Rodriguez,
because she can't just start bowing to Trump, because all
of a sudden, she's gonna fund resistance within her own
country because they're going to say, you know, don't just
hand the keys over. But she obviously can't go too

(02:02:57):
far with Trump because whether there's another snatching grab or
just missiles or something. She realizes that she is indeed
a risk, so she's trying to trying to find that
happy medium.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Now is that risk the consequence of the corrupt I
would say the people benefiting from the Maduro regimer who
had been benefiting from it die hard. Potentially Chavistas that
are still there, because I get the impression and I
just literally talk with a guy who works for Breitbart
who lived in escape from Venezuela, Caleb Cruz, a real

(02:03:26):
nice guy. The will of the people, although they can't
go out in the streets and rejoice for fear that
they're going to be rounded up and disappeared, which is
typical there but they're pretty darn happy that Maduro isn't
there anymore. Their lives are terrible in Venezuela. So if
the people generally support a transition to a pre Chevista
better economy where they're making money and they have opportunity,

(02:03:48):
isn't she on safer ground going that direction? Or is
this what I would characterize and correct me if I'm wrong, sir.
Smaller minority of loyalists or well connected people that big
of a threat to her that she wouldn't bother doing that,
even if it's the will of the people.

Speaker 3 (02:04:03):
Well, I you know, I talked to a friend of
mine here in Washington that has family still in Caracas,
and he was telling me that his reports from the
ground there are similar to what your friend said. That
everybody's still kind of uncertain and afraid. They don't know
what to think, and they don't even know what to believe.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
In any case, they do know that the.

Speaker 3 (02:04:25):
All of the power structures of the Maduro regime are
in place. The only thing that we got taken out
was the head. But the head is only the head
of a system, and all the system is still fully
in place. So they don't have freedom suddenly that they
didn't have before Maduro was pulled out, and I think
they're aware of that, but they also know, you know,
what are you gonna do? You're gonna have a you know,

(02:04:46):
some kind of an uprising. Well, the same reason they
didn't have an uprising under Maduro is still the same
thing in place here. So there's no freedom in Venezuela.
There's nothing has been changed on the system level. So
right now everybody's way to find out what's going to
happen and listen. We also have to recognize that all
of the hardships on Venezuela is not just because of

(02:05:07):
this management, though that's a big part of it, or
their corruption, but because of these crippling sanctions we've had
on them for a long time. So it's that it's
some of the people in Venezuela are not real happy
about even what we've been doing because they recognize that
some of this is being imposed on them from the outside,
and so they don't really trust us that they're going
to rise up and think that we're going to come
and support them because it could cost them their lives.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
That I get. But since the system as you describe
it is still in place, the head may have been
cut off, but the system is still there. We just
briefly touched on the global realities. We got Iran, China, Russia,
and then of course Cuba, which seems like it's on
his last legs, all inextrictedly entertrined on some level with
Venezuela just because Maduro's gone. Their foot in the door

(02:05:51):
and the relationship with that with Venezuela generally that hasn't disappeared,
at least as far as China, Russia, and I understand
Iran had drone manufactured facilities in Venezuela as well. Those
relationships remain, Are they on you know, thin ice? Where
are we with them?

Speaker 3 (02:06:08):
That's what everybody's trying to find out. I'm talking about Beijing, Moscow, Caracas.
Everybody's trying to figure out what does all this going
to mean? And no one knows yet because Venezuela doesn't know.
Because the United States we kind of opened up this
can of worms.

Speaker 5 (02:06:21):
We don't even know.

Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
We don't know for sure what we're gonna do and
what we're.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
Gonna have next.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
Because I think that there are people in Washington that
are fully aware that this snatch and grab was this
huge military operation but had one solitary objective which they
went in, they got out and came out relatively unscathed.
But anything further than that, and you can get yourself
into a real problem, you know. So we don't want
to go in real big I think we want to

(02:06:45):
pretend like we can and threaten that we will. But
I don't think there's a big appetite for getting into
a war that we might just start an open ended
situation that you can't succeed in. They could be real ugly.
And then you know, look, China has I think it's
like eighty billion dollars of loans and other kinds of
security things that they have given to Venezuela that they

(02:07:07):
need to be repaid. So they're going to be working
hard to make sure their interest are are not sacrificed.
Russia has less leverage, but they certainly are the same
interest And then you have even talked about what about Columbia?

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
Are they next?

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
You know, what about Mexico? There's threatens there Greenland for
crying out loud. I mean that's apparently on the hit
list too, apparently coming up within twenty days. We don't
know for sure what Trump meant by that, but that's
apparently going to be on the table too, So there
is a lot of moving pieces here at the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:07:34):
Yeah, I'm completely perplexed by the whole Greenland obsession. Honestly, sir,
maybe the greatest piece of real estate in the world,
but what right does the United States have to it?
I keep waiting for that question to be answered. Anyhow,
there aren't any drug boats coming out of Greenland as
far as you know, are there are there, Daniel, if
I haven't missed anything.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
Fishing boats up there, And one wonders if fishing boats
are going to suddenly be a problem. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
Well, it doesn't appear as that we're going to have
to engage agent another failed military exercise like the Bay
of Pigs. Cuba looks like it's on its last legs.
I mean, economically, they were already devastated with the oil
embargers and the sanctions. I know they were getting some
gratis oil from Venezuela, which a lot of which they
were able to sell off in order to help their

(02:08:18):
own economy or help themselves and line their pockets the
authorities in Cuba. But where do you see Cuba going
if we completely cut off their ability to get any
energy whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (02:08:30):
You know, I'll tell you this is what perplexes me
even more than the Greenland issues. Really, why this avn't right?
Obsession with destroying Cuba. I've been to Cuba and I
can tell you just about seven eight years ago with
a church group that went in there to help some
of the local churches. And they are so poor they
can barely even feed themselves. They're a threat to literally

(02:08:52):
no one. They're lucky to keep the lights on and
some food in grocery stores. So you had to coach
the other day a former director of Nashville or a
deputy national security advisor say that they are a big
threat to us and now we got to go get them.
And I'm just like puzzled, what are you talking about?

(02:09:13):
There is no threat, and yet you heard Marco Rubio
is just almost gleeful with the idea of destroying Cuba.
There's nothing that we need to worry about. Why we
want to harm them because they don't pose a threat
to us. I don't understand the obsession.

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
Yeah, I get I think a lot of people remember
the Cuban missile crisis. Russia actually had military installations ere
they did have nukes ninety miles away. But you know,
in a world of hypersonic missiles that can travel halfway
around the globe and matter of seconds, the geography of
the location of missiles isn't quite as important as it
used to be.

Speaker 3 (02:09:46):
And plus that was, you know whatever, almost three quarters
of a century ago.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
I mean, I know that just anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:09:51):
So there's there's literally nothing there that would cause us,
as a state objective the destruction of Cuba. And to me,
I'm it just doesn't look good globally that we have
this big power to the United States that is claiming
they're afraid of this tiny little island that can barely
keep the lights on and we're gonna crush them. I
mean that that looks like the classic bully and I

(02:10:13):
don't think that's gonna help our interests worldwide if we
carry through with that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Maybe it's our interest in bringing the casinos back in
a vacation destination. You could be right.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
I hope that you're not, because that would be pretty
pretty callous to destroy a government just so that we
can get somebody to go in there and make some
money on it. But justin you can't eliminate that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:37):
Just ain effort at levity, sir, that's all that was now.

Speaker 11 (02:10:40):
Really it might not be levity.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
That's probably yeah, all good comedy, there is some grain
of truth built into it, and real quick anything that's
really pronounced. Instance ramost at a time between the Russian
and Ukraine situation, where are we on that one? Are
we still the status quo that we typically end on her?

Speaker 3 (02:10:58):
This tomorrow is Orthodox Christmas on the seventh of January,
so things are kind of paused a little bit on
the on the front, there's still some activity going on,
but it's kind of low level. But there's a meeting
in Paris today where Witkoff and Jared Kushner and the
UN Ambassador Whittaker are there. I'm sorry, you know, Witcock

(02:11:20):
Whittaker are there to try and work on with Zelensky,
who just showed up a minute ago with Macron. They're
trying to find nail down security guarantees for Ukraine. Whittaker
said on Fox News this morning that he thinks that
are really close. I've heard that before. I doubt that
that's going to be the case, or at least close
to what is the question, But at least some diplomatic

(02:11:41):
activities are going on. I would look for kind of
a lull in things until sometime after the seventh and
then things could heat.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Back up pretty quick. I hear security guarantees. I think
of boots on the ground from major several different major countries,
including the United States. Is that maybe where we're going
on that that's what they want.

Speaker 3 (02:11:58):
I don't think they're going to get the American boots
on the ground, but apparently Zelenski's really trying hard to
get French and British boots on the ground, and for
some reason they're interested in talking about that. I don't
know why they would want.

Speaker 7 (02:12:08):
To do it.

Speaker 3 (02:12:08):
Russia has categorically and consistently said any boots that come
on the ground from any NATO force immediately become legitimate targets,
and I think they mean it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:16):
Okay, fair enough. I don't want to make fun of
the French army. It's too easy. Daniel Davis Deep Dive
the podcast Levity a A find him where you get
your podcast. I always enjoy our conversation, sir, and we'll
look forward another edition to this next Tuesday. You have
a great week, my friend, and happy New year.

Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
Again, same to you and thanks and I'll see you
next week.

Speaker 1 (02:12:35):
And podcast my conversation with Daniel from yesterday at fifty
five KRC dot com, along with this one which you
can find a little bit later in the morning, eight
forty three.

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
Right now, stick around, This is fifty five KARC an
iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
This is JIF see Morning Show The Big Picture with
Jack added at seven oh five. Love talking to Jack
and I hope you enjoyed that as much as I do.
It's just so brilliant. Judge Edapoltano at eight thirty something
tells me he is not going to be approving of
the military intervention of them as well. History is any guide.
We're gonna wait and find out on that one anyway.
Without further Dealt's score to the phones. I mentioned her
name earlier, Maureen, welcome back to the morning show. It's

(02:13:09):
good to hear from you as always.

Speaker 8 (02:13:11):
Hi, Brian. Just a quick bit of news out of
South Florida here a grand jury is convening in South
Florida for Brennan Clapper, Hillary and Obama. Scheduled to take
place this week, next week somewhere in January. And that's
out of the News of New York Police Department inspector
Paul Morrow. He was a former News Fox News contributor.

(02:13:35):
I thought it might be a little bit interesting to you.

Speaker 1 (02:13:38):
What's the subject matter of the indictment? What's the subject
matter of the grand jury?

Speaker 8 (02:13:42):
Well, the reason it's in Florida is because of the
mar A Lago raid being unjust. So that's why they
were able to move it to have it here in Florida. Oh,
I see, so it's gonna yeah, the Palm Beach County. Yeah,
the raid of mar A Lago because it was under
false pretenses and just the connected, just all the things
that went on.

Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
All right, well take place, Let's keep our popcorn out
and see what happens on that one slightly more conservative
venue than say New York for example. Then you're you
might you might actually see some justice or at least
an indictment handed down. I mentioned you earlier, real quick,
I'm want to put you on the spot. Even following
what's going on with the fraud of Minnesota. Uh, I

(02:14:22):
guess Tim Wallason is called it quits. He is no
longer running for a third term, and I think he
was trying to get out ahead of all of it.
He's going to clearly hit the fans sooner rather than later.
But he obviously has this massive fraud that happened on
his watch. He knows he's in somewhat of trouble. This
has made world global news. But the big question mark
is that the Democrats may have been using some of

(02:14:45):
that fraudulently obtained money to fund their own campaigns. And
it made me think, well, maybe Waltz knows that's coming,
and that shoe is going to drop, and he better
get out and make room for some other Democrat to
try to make good on running as a Democrat in
Minnesota before it really hits the fan. And your thoughts
on that, my pattern observing friend.

Speaker 8 (02:15:06):
I don't think even if he steps out, that he's
not going to protect him from what's coming his way.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
No, no, no, but don't protect the party. He may
he may get the weight of the wrath of God
from a crono perspective heap down upon him, or public
scrutiny heap down upon him. But if he gets out
of the way early enough, some credible and I use
that term loosely democrat might be able to withstand maybe
the relationship as being in the same party as Tim Walls.

Speaker 8 (02:15:33):
Okay, that's true, I believe. I agree with that. I
agree with that. But seeking of that, did you see
the craiglist in Minnesota's asking for child actors? They put
out a craig for child actors. Maybe they're going to
pose his school kids.

Speaker 1 (02:15:47):
Honestly, you know, I did see that. But going back
to the V. V. Ramaswami column about all the social
media this, that and the other thing that's going on
in the world, and the fact that there are so
many deep out there, I don't believe anything I see anymore, Maureene.
So it's tough for me to take things on face value.
Was it really a screen cap from a Craigslist or

(02:16:09):
did someone make it up whole cloth, which people are
wont to do these days.

Speaker 8 (02:16:12):
It could be, it could be a kind of a
good joke.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
I always got to acknowledge that possibility. The babylon Bee
comes up with some fun stuff along those lines. But
at least if it's got a babylon Bee radio or
a moniker, you know it's satire. Yeah, oh, that's right.
And just Strekker created aftab Pervol's calendar for the month
of January, which was mostly vacation days and a reminder
to make a car payment so you can do that. Maureene,

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I know of you. I appreciate you tuning in from
South Florida. Hold the fort down there and keep a
surprise to what's going on with the grand jury if
you get any more information on it. Thank you for
the heads up. See here real quick, I guess the
weird story that I saw this morning. It's not necessarily weird,
but I feel so badly for the folks in the
West End struggling with is they do every single day,

(02:16:58):
with all the crime that's going on. The whole reality
that in spite of the fact they were promised these
cameras in the camera installations for the last couple of years,
they haven't been dyne. So Scott Wortman, or at the Inquirer,
started asking some questions of council. No one seems to
really know anything about it, yeah, said, reached out to
members of council as well as the administration. They also

(02:17:21):
submitted open records request, which is thus far as I
understand it, been ignored, looking for surveillance footage and any
information about the installation of those security cameras. Accorded to Whartman,
one councilman told him that as end of November, many
of the security cameras in the neighborhood weren't operational. Another
said the administration told him a singular camera near the
playground is functioning, and yet no one's produced any video

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from that. Neither the Cincinni Police Department or since a
city manager's office, could answer any questions. At least as
of Monday afternoon on this the Enquirer's open records requests
were not filled. Shocking, so a council of seth Walt
told the Enquirer an assistant city administrator told him that

(02:18:05):
at the end of November, the city was still awaiting
permission from private property owners and Duke Energy to install
many of the new cameras on the West End, which
is fine. Homeowners may be a stumbling block, but pivoting
over Duke Energy. What if Duke Energy's approval. Duke Energy
spokesman John Joyce said the utility company doesn't have any

(02:18:29):
pending requests from the city to put cameras on utility polls.
In the West End. Huh okay Wal Stephen acknowledges as
an issue that has been going on for years. We
pledged these cameras two and a half years ago. Well,
apparently you need to ask Duke and that hasn't been
done yet. Oh look, as I stare at my how

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your neighborhood voted for mayor chart West End eighty approval
and the current makeup of council. Okay, sticker out or
sting around Glenbex, coming right up. Thanks,