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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Five o five.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
At fifty five k RC, the talk station series Happy Wednesday,
Some will vacation, God, no idea, what's going on? Neither do.

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I kind of feel that some days. Hey, Happy Monday
or Wednesday to you. Brian Thomas right here gots Joe
Strekker where he belongs to the executive producer Booth. He
is the executi producer. That's why he's in there and
got a good line up today with the Big Picture
with Jack add and guests begin at seven o five
here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Today's topic
for Jack a classic Christmas movie. Getting ourselves hopefully in

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the holiday spirit and a very happy Holidays to you,
and of course Merry Christmas. If you are clebrating, Merry Christmas,
Happy Honeka, whatever the case may be. I'll enjoy your
celebration as much as you will, just because we're in
a celebratory mood. Least we can try to be. It's
the effort that sometimes is difficult to achieve good trying
to get in the holiday spirit. Anyhow, After Jack ad

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it in the Big Picture, we'll have Donovan and the
Americans for Prosperities. Donovan and Neil return seven thirty. He's
going to unveil AFP's endorsements for the twenty twenty six elections.
We got a whole bunch of Ohio candidate's districts thirty one,
thirty five, fifty seven, sixty one, eighty one in eighty
six to talk about specifically and maybe a suggestion on
what you and I can do to help move things

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along here in the state of Ohio for everyone's benefit.
It's Wednesday a thirty with Judge Eddnopolitano today. This is
I really appreciated his column on this because it's absolutely crazy.
Column headline comes out tonight for those not in the know.
E in the know, I get an advanced copy. Tucker
Carlson and the freedom of speech. Can't get a healthcare

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bill pass. They can't do anything, can't fight fraud, waste
and abuse. Oh look here in Ohio as well. It's
not just Minnesota folks continuing me on a tear about fraud,
wasted abuse in all government programs. Charles Chuck Schumer, of course,
he leads the Democrats in the United States Senate, introduced
legislation on his behalf as well as forty other Senate

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Democrats if passed, would record the sense of the Senate. Yeah,
one of those pointless resolutions, the sense of the Senate
condemning Tucker Carlson because of the political, historical, and cultural
opinions of a guest that he interviewed in his podcast.

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And of course the fall tunder doubles down on that.
As you read that correctly, the US Senate is being
asked to condemn Carlson because of what someone else said.
And then of course he goes into a constitutional breakdown
of the First Amendment and segues over to the batcrap
in sanity of what Chuckie Schumer is trying to do
rather than do something that really is on benefit of

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the American people generally speaking. So let's condemn Kentucker Carlson
for what a guest said. Is this trip necessary? Of
course it's not. That's why we have Judge An A.
Poulton at eight thirty. We have you anytime you want
to call five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty, five hundred,
eight hundred and eighty two to three talk go with
pound five fifty on an AT and T phone. I'd
love to hear from you, maybe the something on your mind?

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Are you ready for war with Venezuela. Remember he declared
the Narco terrorists narco terrorists terrorist organization, which apparently gives
Donald Trump the right to blow up narco terrorists boats
in Venezuela. We've been down this stroad of the Morning show.
I do have problems with that, And from a constitutional perspective, no,
I don't like them. I don't like ventanyl flowing into

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our country. It is law breaking. But again going back
to the whole reality, do they represent an emminent threats
and a president have enough authority or free reign rather
to start launching missiles around the globe whether or not
we have a declaration of war or even authorization for
use of military force A fine, we don't need to
rehash that. But what was the predicate the declaration of

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them being narco terrorists? Okay, so you can blow them up? Okay. Well,
he's now labeling the Venezuelan regime as a foreign terrorist organization.
So that's moving away from the narco terrorists, which are
engaged in engaged and of course coordinated law breaking, the

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manufacturer and distribution of fentanyl. Moving over to yes, the
head of the snake, Nicholas Mundu and the whole regime.
And since we have an entire armada of US ships
floating around out off the coast of Venezuela, get your
popcorn out and get ready for war, because that's direction
if it looks like things are going But back over

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to Froudway's abuse here in the United States, notably the
state of Ohio. See it's not just menace soda, and
props to Laura Viishov. Since I enquired did a little
breakdown on this for everybody's enlightenment, We'll start with forty
year old Lashita McClellan apparently had a real big party

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at Versace Mansion in Miami Beach along with about ninety
of her friends. There was a massive yacht involved, and
she produced what is described as a high end video
music video. Specifically, I guess in connection with this fortieth
birthday party, eighty thousand dollars expense, and you paid for
at least part of it. Since you are earning taxes

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or paying taxes, we'll just assume that you are, or
you can feel outraged on behalf of those of us
who actually paid taxes. In the music video, apparently she
displayed her twenty twenty one Lamborghini Urus, reportedly a two
hundred twenty two thousand dollars car that was in the

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video shown in a downtown Columbus parking lot, which apparently
is where the video is filmed. Now, she and her
co defendant, Elena Hamilton are now serving five years at
Ohio Reformatory for Women for theft and fraud. How is that?
Well Hamilton Alana Hamilton, the co defendant, also serving time,
worked inside state government approving fraudulent unemployment claims. Now. Lashida McClellan,

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the eurosowner and video producer, ran a daycare center as
well as a tax preparation business. Apparently across the schemes,
the two were responsible for two hundred and thirty fraudulent claims,
costing the taxpayer five point nine million dollars just two people.
Oh five point nine million dollars. That's nothing, Thomas. We
blow through billions of dollars in fraud. Look at Minnesota.

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These two are pikers by comparison. Yeah, well, they're tip
of the iceberg. In text messages, these two ladies outlined
their plans saying, well, let's get this money. Your money,
by the way, So they started with McClellan's unemployment claim
her own unemployment claim. Hamilton voided any fraud issues that

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were related to that claim, sending her almost sixty thousand dollars.
She's the one that owned the daycare centers. And then
the next day McClellan returned the favor and paid Hamilton
one thousand dollars fee via cash app. I Inspector General
issued fifty four subpoenas, worked with law enforcement officers. They
executed twenty four search warrants, and upon searching McLellan's house,

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confiscated just under a million dollars cash stowed all over
the place, apparently including the children's lunchboxes. They found her
ledger in a notebook with Boss Babe on the cover.
Immateial I will acknowledge. But they also froze two million
dollars in assets across her twelve bank accounts. Nothing suspicious
there at all, described as these two among the relatively

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few people investigated ooh, despite the massive number of pandemic
fraud schemes going on in Ohio. So you were called
during the pandemic here, let's throw money at all kinds
of problems. The only problem is is I've been pointing out,
and I know it sound like a broken record, no
guardrails in place, no effort to prevent scammers from builking you.

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The American taxpayer, billions of dollars were set were stolen
by setting up fake business counts, stealing identities, handing out
stolen money to friends family. Since twenty twenty, federal prosecutors
and Ohio Inspector General Randy Meyer have investigated more than
one hundred people in five dozen Ohio cases. And as

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the reporting noted, sure that sounds like a lot, but
OHI Inspector General Meyer said it's just a small fraction
of the total schemes billions of dollars siphoned off by
what are described as international crime syndicates. Although I don't
think Lashida McKellen and Elena Hamilton serving time now for

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their fraud are part of an international organization, just two
women who saw an opportunity to rip you off. And
the sadder part about this, as is noted, the McClellan
Hamilton case described as unusual because authorities were able to
at least get back some of the taxpayer money that
they stole total five plus million. Apparently they were able

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to get back three million dollars. I guess because she
had a million dollars stashed in her home, some of
which was in lunchboxes. Inspector General Meyer estimates that no
more than three hundred thousand will be collected from the
other nineteen cases that they have investigated that they have investigated,

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while he speculates that billions of dollars were stolen. I
love these interesting little side notes. Federal prosecutors that a
Toledo man guid named Daniel Hitlin spent eighty eight grand
on a Cadillac Escalade, almost fifty grand on a nineteen
sixty eight Chevy Corvette, and four hundred and twenty seven
grand on of real estate, and twenty grand on Rolex watches.

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Your money stolen? A woman named Laurie Schaeffer stole twenty
six thousand dollars spend it on liposuction. What what? Twenty
six thousand dollars of liposuction looks like? That's a lot
of fat, isn't it. Do they charge you by the
ounce extracted or is it just the procedure. I have
to look into that. Apparently, run a ten thousand dollars

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check for a newborn baby gift that's in quote. I
guess was on the memo line. Spent almost a million
dollars to buy and renovate a home, all right, Ava
Missile nine bought a three hundred and twenty seven thousand
and five hundred dollars home in Michigan, which she didn't
even keep it here. In Ohio six hundred and fifty
grand roughly for a home next to Zaion National Park
in Utah, stole the identity of a baby who died

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in nineteen seventy nine and used both her real and
fake names to get one point five million dollars. Yes,
in paycheck protection loans. They say they're focusing mostly on
pandemic unemployment assistance fraud. How about the other programs that

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are out there, like the one in Mississipi in Minnesota.
This says from the beginning the pandemic through the end
of September of twenty twenty five, the Hot Department of
Job and Family Services reported one point eight billion dollars
in over payments and jobless benefits. In the same time frame,
one hundred and eight million in over payments have been recovered.

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That's a gross disparity, is it not? Hey, the money's gone,
it's been spent. If someone was there up front, minding
the store and monitoring these activities, maybe, just maybe it
wouldn't have gone out the door in the first place.
And the WTF moment in the reporting on this look,

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I wrote it right there in the margins. The state
hired companies to help process these unemployment claims. They say
some nine thousand people had full administrative access to the
entire unemployment system, which allowed them to void holds on
claims and release money. Like the first story I mentioned,

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what's worse WTF moment number two, even after some of
those workers were fired, Ohio state contractors didn't shut off
their computer access to the system. Huh what might that
lead to? Well, here's Andrew Corobo got fired after working
for a state contractor named Ramsdad seventy five days. He's

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working for seventy five days before his termination, he inappropriately
approved thirteen claims for thirty six grand plus almost thirty
seven grand, But the contractor didn't shut down his log
in credentials for another ninety days after he was terminated,
at which time or during which time, he inappropriately approved
four hundred and thirty five claims for six point eight

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million dollars. Okay, you see a little bit of effort
would have gone a long way. Did they engage in
the effort? Obviously not in and okay again according to
the Inspector General, the ones I just mentioned a mere
scratch in the surface of the fraud claims that are
out there floating around in the world. Great five eighteen

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It's five twenty two almost anyway, fifty five kr CD
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talks for goofs and giggles. I just looked up the

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cost of an oil change for a a Lamborghini Urus
that coming in in around two thousand dollars, so it
comes to quarter of a million dollars for a card.
Then you got that's there and in the face. Jay,
Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Welcome back, Hey, thanks Brian, Hey, I want to thank
you for keeping the uh this this up and giving
our attention to all the fraudways and abuse going on
in Ohio. I don't hear it coming from anybody else,
And I would encourage the listeners that to pick up
the phone and call Keith Faber, Auditor of State of Ohio,

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called the Attorney General's office. One of the things that
Thomas Massey said, I don't know several months ago, six
months ago, is they don't really get that many phone calls.
That's a congressman. How many phone calls do you think
an auditor's office get?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Zero?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Right, who's the honor of people's first questions? Who is
the auditor?

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
And what does he do? Yeah, he's supposed to be
the one who's watching where the funds go. The Attorney's
General Office is the top cop in the state of Ohio.
That's Dave Yoh's office. Uh so let's shoot for like
five of us giving them a call today and saying
what what are you doing with the fraud, waste and abuse?
And I know you guys had.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Faber on.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Maybe a year or so ago, which I loved, unfortunately,
and I think we need to just just take a breath,
Brian and take a step back and remember what Faber
said when he was on the air. It's hard. There's
eighty eight counties. It's really complex and it looks like
work and he'd rather not. I might be paraphrasing that
last part, but that was pretty much my takeaway after

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you interviewed him, was I heard a lot of excuses
for a guy who asked and ran for the job,
got the job putting, and he talked about that there
was different computer systems across eighty eight counties. Reminder, we
just gave six hundred million dollars to the Cleveland Browns,
which is my follow up question, follow up question to.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
You with thank you Jay, That was that's like the
street car. It's a gift that keeps on giving in
terms of batcrap insanity.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Anyway, go ahead, Well you don't just shifting over to
the six hundred million dollars and a billion dollar stadium
going to the city paid for the Bengals. When Obamacare
came out, there was that edict that we had to
pay a tax and went to the Supreme Court and
the Supreme Court says, you can't force people to buy
something that they're not using.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Right, what does that? What does that?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
When do we get that focus into football? Because I
don't consume football. I have zero interest in it. I
walked away from the NFL when I figured out what
what what kind of humanity I'm watching here?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
But you're don't confuse the the intrusion on individual freedoms
and liberties with what our elected officials choose to do
with our tax payer dollars. They have a wide rain
and a lot of birth to uh to pick and
choose the winners and losers. We've seen that throughout government.
Republicans do it, Democrats do it, and in this particular case,
the very bright rates that are right right bright red

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state of Ohio shows to give six hundred million dollars
of the damn Brown's. That's your elected officials making decisions
with what they do with your money.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Isn't there a president? Though? Now the Supreme Court that
says you can't force private citizens to buy something.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're come on, Jay, you know you're not being forced
to do anything. Nobody's making you go by a brown
sticket or even show up at the state freebie.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
They're taking my tax dollars and getting it to a
private business, forcing me to pay for it through my
tax dollars. I'm not consuming anything.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Now, those arguments have been rejected soundly by the Supreme Court.
Like for example, if you are a conscientious objector and
you don't believe in war, and you don't believe in
waging of war, you can't withhold your tax dollars because
a giant chunk of it goes to the American military.
You don't get to pick and choose what your elected
officials do. We were living a representative form of government.
They're allowed to do whatever they damn well please.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
In large part, so how did the Obamacare mandatory edict
to pay for it?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Is because they said you have to engage in commerce
i e. Purchase and Obamacare policy. That's what you can't
do through the commerce clause. The commerce clause can you
prevent you from engaging in activity that affects interstate commerce,
but they can't force you to engage in interstate commerce.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Huge, so they called it attacks.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
But then they tried to call it attack, right, and
they got away with that for a few years because
John Roberts on the Supreme Court said you can't force
them to buy it, but we can call it attack.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
That was a different That was a different part of
the argument. And you're right, is it a penalty? Is
it attack? What they called it attacks or attacks? Or
they called it a penalty over and over again. Apparently
that would have been unconstitutional, so magically it became a
tax under the court's decision. That is a completely separate
argument independent of the first one you advance, which regard
which was dealing with the commerce clause and whether you
can be forced to engage in commerce one last question.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
But the tax got eliminated because it was found unconstitutional
even after they called it attacks.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No, it was upheld. The only thing in that Roberts
decision that that impacted Obamacare to what I would say
our advantage is what we just got done talking about,
which is they can't make you buy one. It caused
the whole thing to collapse because the only thing propping
it up was that every human being in the country
was going to be work, was going to be on

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an Obamacare policy in providing premium dollars which would then
be used to pay all the claims. If you can't
make everybody buy it, there's a massive chunk of people
who aren't gonna buy it, and of course didn't, meaning
the premium dollars weren't sufficient to cover the losses that
were by all the claims that went in with people
with pre existing conditions, for example. That's why the premiums
have gone through the roofs, the only way insurance works.

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Enough dollars coming in to cover the dollars going out
for claims. That's why your premium now is through the
roof and that's where the subsidies came in to cover
the failure of Obama Care brought about by the Roberts decision,
which told you you didn't have to buy it in
the first place. That's the bottom line, man, That's really
all there is to it, and we're dealing with the
aftermath of that failure by well, they're trying to hide

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cover the cost of it, but you and I are
still footing it supplements in place, and when the supplements
aren't there, nobody wants to buy an Obamacare policy because
it's too damn expensive for the insurance you get, if
you can even call it insurance. Appreciate the call. As always,
Jay got a run and you can feel free to
chime in. And if you like, Phil, just give me
a quifive one three, seven, four, nine, fifty eight hundred
and eight to two three talk be right back, since

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I'm be if twenty thirds the last day I worked
for me this year, and I'm looking forward to Rob
Ryder being in studio with his guitar so we can
celebrate the Christmas holiday season together. And uh so after
that off until the fifth listener lunch is the seventh
of January. January seventh, first Wednesday of the calendar year,
and we're gonna be at Mad Tree Brewery in Blue Ash.

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We've been there before. They treat us well. It's good
food and of course they make great beer. So Mad
Tree Brewery, Blue Ash. You can mark it down seventh
of January. I hope to see you there over the finals.
We'll see what Tom's got this morning, Tom, Happy Wednesday
to you, welcome back, Hey.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Good morning. And I'm actually I think I'm going to
get one more day of vacation than you do. That's
that's pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I have been using mine though, so.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, twenty Thurs my last day as well, and
then we got a nice trip plan, so good for you. Yeah, yeah,
I'm that that'll. I'm very much looking forward to it.
So uh yeah, you uh you know how to pick
the topics to get Jay stirred up and uh buy it.
And I appreciate Jay Jay is always full of a

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lot of information and questions and and uh, keep it going, Jay,
I appreciate you. And yeah, this fraud, waste and abuse obviously,
you know, keep keep uh keep doing them, keep repeating it, Brian,
it's something that's worth repeating about this. Chefs should be
set up ahead of time before these programs go in place.

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But they're in such a big hurry to throw your
money out the window and give it to give it away.
That's that's the knee jerk reaction of these politicians. Uh,
well these people are gonna need help, let's give a billions.
But well we got this many hundreds of millions and
and that, and that's you know that that can't keep
going on. We got to put a stop to it.
The only way to put a stop to is replace

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these people. You know, got to trust the people. If
we're going to replace, replace them with who do I
believe that you're gonna do it any differently? And that's
that's the difficult part. That we got to keep trying
to get somebody else in there or what whatever, whatever
representative that that represents you, whoever you are listening, think

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about your representative, Are they representing you?

Speaker 7 (22:19):
And your what you believe.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Government should be doing with your money, and what they
do with your money is probably the most important thing
to do in their office, hands down, that's your that's
your life. You go to work, you do whatever you
do to earn that paycheck, and then you see some
of it being taken out. Right.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, well that's why I've been harboring on this. Listen.
I am not attacking the program itself, because you can
make an argument all the daven oh my god, it
was the pandemic and you know the everything was shut down.
These people needed the money. You can make that argument
all day long. I might reject it, but bipartisan response
under across the board, from eleon Omar Kami over to

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the farthest right wing conservative. Ask them the question, do
you believe in preventing fraud, wasted abuse? Do you believe
the money should go to criminals? Do you believe the
money should go to people who are not eligible under
the program to receive it. The answer should be an
outright absolute hell no. That should never happen, and I
will do everything in my power to prevent the American
taxpayer dollar from being abused. They have to say that

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because it is purely bipartisan. I want that upfront. You know,
then argue that as long as whatever you're doing includes
those provisions, and with our vast array of artificial intelligence,
I don't care. We have eighty eight counties in the
state of Ohio. They should be able to share data.
And if we can't share data right now, maybe job
one should be the ability for those counties to share
data to prevent medicaid fraud or any other kind of

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fraud that we could encounter. Get the damn job done.
But bipartisan reality is no to fraud, waste and abuse.
And there is nothing that There's no one, nothing anybody
can say if they're running on a platform, if they're
pushing some particular program that justifies the ability, if you
see it gaping hole in the posle that would allow fraud,

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waste and abuse, then y'all plug it up front.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
I wholeheartedly agree. But another part of our broken record
is if if we get rid of the ability to
have fraud, waste and abuse, we get rid of the
ability of these politicians to throw money around at their
pet projects, at their buddies. See that's that's what you know.
You can get a politician to agree on the surface
to anything you want. But when they get behind closed

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doors and in committee or they're talking to their buddies
or whatever, Yeah, we got a few hundred million dollars
we can sling your way, you know. Yeah, that's your money, people,
that's your money that they're throwing around. That's not coming
out of their pocket because they're also as we have
seen over the years, these people get in office and
they somehow magically become a whole lot richer than their

(24:49):
salary dictates that they should. And this is across the board,
This is everybody, This is all of them. This isn't
just Rhinos and Democrats, but they, I believe are the
worst defenders because.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
They touch right out.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Their programs are designed, their programs are designed to waste
your money.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's right. See that's what we got out of time,
tom out of time. But that's the point of it.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's the point of my problem or my point. You
make the point up front you stop broad wasted abuse,
and then when it happens you can point to them
and say, see, you wanted fraud wasting abuse. Look what
you're doing with the money? Six thirty six right now,
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five to fifty five carseee dot com. I was appreciate
when people down that app. Let's see in the absence
of phone calls, which it is right now, we're gonna
go to the stack of stupid starting. Denver describes an
eventful weekend. Over the weekend, police in Commerce City shared
some of the incidents that happened specifically over the weekend.

(26:19):
There were over three inner calls, but one particularly unusual
event that the department described as truly bizarre their words
in their reporting. Over the night Friday and the Saturday,
police department said, a man allegedly crawled under a gate
into the departments that's the police department secured parking lot,
managed to get inside and steal a patrol vehicle. He

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then took the police vehicle on quote the briefest paren
and we do mean brief close pren of joy rides.
That's the police quote from the Facebook post. Police said
the incident while Brief was stopped by police while driving
around the Commerce City Civic Police got him out of
the vehicle. They discovered he was not wearing any clothes

(27:04):
as tradition. Amen brother the body worn camera foot he'd
shared by police, the man appeared to be holding a
piece of cloth or a flag over his waste area,
expressing a little bit of modesty, I guess. Arrested on
the spot, immediately taking to the Adams County Jail on
charges of third degree motor vehicle theft, second degree criminal trespass,

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and driving without a license. Police department said it all
recovered multiple stolen vehicles and arrested multiple DUI suspects in
addition to that guy. Over the weekend, no rumor or
no word on whether drugs rockholl were involved in Naked
Guy's short crews around the Commerce City Civic Center. Excuse me,
maybe a little bit allergies this morning. Let us go

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to Louisville. Fifth grade teacher arrested after police said she
had a sexual conversation with the student. Why are you
dun drove to his own There is no answer to
that question. That's going to pass. Muster with me. Judge
Strecker Sidney Gaff, thirty six years old, charge with procuring

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or promoting use of minor by electronic means. Jefferson County
Public Schools confirmed she worked for works for and says
plural art says he works. I'd like to think she's
been discharged. Smyrna Elementary, where she teaches math, described the
district as a non traditional instructional slash virtual learning Dame Monday.

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Police said screenshots and video recording show draw during the instruction,
she discussed oral sex with the boy, who is under
the age of twelve, what they said. Graff then went
to the student's home to pick him up. When she
was arrested. Citation said she admitted to having the conversations.

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Her bond said at one hundred thousand dollars cash apparently
not in Hamilton County in front of Judge Silverstein order
to not have any contact with a more use social
media do back in court after Christmas.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Perio is the biggest douche of the universe under twelve,
in all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you.
You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douche them.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Good going, doue. Your dreams have come true. You know,
your child's lucky to not been in front of that
instructor in that particular school district, one school among thousands
and thousands of schools out there, So maybe you dodge
the bullet on that one. But let us go back
to my criticisms about the Internet and your Your motivation

(29:41):
should be to get your children off of it, because
every single pervert into the world is concentrated in one
fun spot we'd like to call the Internet social media accounts.
So that woman multiplied times, you know, the cross of
the population of billions of people globally, they're all right
there right there, waiting to go after your kids. Sorry,

(30:05):
I'm just on a tear on that as well of
late Cole Munzer here. Make sure you read deep talk
station five point fifty if you've got kero see detalk
station five one three, seven fifty, five hundred even eight
two to three talk. Always welcome phone calls, even in
the middle of the STACKUS dupid, go back to the
stackus D. But something else for us to worry about

(30:27):
added to the list. How closely do you inspect your
food after you get back from the grocery store. I mean, I,
for one, if I'm pull open up a loaf of bread,
I'm going to look at the slices of bread right,
just as a matter of course, just by holding it,
you're going to be looking at it anyway. Look out
for razor blades. Apparently one more thing. It's like Chris
or like Halloween. You know, I remember the rumors about

(30:50):
razor blades being stuffed into apples. Well, we got to block.
In Mississippi, police have arrested a Texas woman accused of
putting razors in several bakery items at multiple Walmart locations.
Why are you doing that? We'll never find out. Well,
maybe because she should share the award with the last

(31:10):
award winner, Joe. Maybe there's just a reason in and
of itself. Thirty three year old Camille Benson arrested charged
with attempted mayhem. Tip to investigators said she'd been seen
in the one thousand block at a Vision Street, which
led to her arrest. They had been looking for why
because oh look video surveillance footage. God started with complaints

(31:33):
from multiple customers who found razor blades in bread at
the Walmart located on Switzer Drive in blocks. The same
thing happened in to Walmart at the two thousand block
of Pass Road. After finding the razor blades, Walmart reported
the police that they had something similar happen back in
December fifth and December seventh, razor blades found in a

(31:57):
banana nut muffin and a loaf of bread. Employees never
reported it to the police until the most recent incident happened.
I guess they began to see a pattern emerge. Walmart removed,
of course, the suspected bread, and no injuries were reported, thankfully.
Police said nothing in the back of the store warehouse
was found to be compromised, which led police to believe
that the tampering happened on the store floor. Enter videos

(32:17):
camera footage of this woman walking out of the store
identified and arrested. So they say, if you bought any
bread at these walmarts, check for sharp objects. But since
this has now made it to the internet and the
story is in fact a viral reported story, everybody's going

(32:39):
to get the idea that maybe I too can put
razor blades in food. It's like a TikTok challenge or
something like that. A lot of stupid in the world,
isn't there, Just a whole lot. And you know what,
the article does not contain any more information than the headline.
Police investigating violent fight between customers and employees at West

(33:03):
Hartford Chipotle. That's really it. Start the fight broke out.
It doesn't say anything else about it. Police called to
the scene. It's under investigation. Okay, fight broke out. I'm
surprised it wasn't a Walmart. So I can milk the

(33:27):
time for all it's worth. Here, I only have one
more stack of stupid story. We go to Tennessee, Tennessee.
Man thought his head was having car trouble. Turned out
to be something different than car trouble. It was a
pretty massive yellow python not made in the US. This
is in Tennessee several days ago. Jesse Hodge noticed an

(33:48):
unusual smell coming from his suv. His friends even noticed.
After a couple of days, he scheduled a maintenance check
at the car dealership, but the day before that he
decided to just pop the hood and take a close
look at what was going on. I raised the hood
on the car, he said, I could not believe what
I was seeing, finding a slithery yellow passenger coiled in

(34:10):
his engine compartment. Once I pulled up and popped my hood,
he laid right on top of the battery box underneath
my car. Frasing, Hodge called the Young Williams Animal Setter,
which came out to remove the snake. The snake, depending

(34:32):
on how you look at it, either happy or said
it was dead. Anyhow, always check your car in case
an unexpected passenger hitches a ride. Was this one more
thing we gotta worry about popping the hood in our
car to look for pythons? Phrasing, Wear that button out,

(34:54):
Joe hey, Now wait a second, help me real quick
here before we part company into the gain of the
six o'clock hour. Now is is climate change? Are we
are we experiencing here in December with the snowfall? Is
that related to global climate change, because you can't say
global warming right, because it will be inconsistent with the
theory of global warming for us to be getting all
this snow. Second, is the snow unusual this time of

(35:15):
year since I acquire reporting snowiest decembers in December twenty ten.
The number one snow in December sixteen point six inches,
then the next at sixteen point three inches nineteen seventeen,
fifteen and a half and forty two, nineteen sixty and

(35:36):
nineteen eighty nine, fourth place at twelve and a half
eighty one, nineteen eighty one, nineteen point or ten point nine,
twenty twenty five, ten point eight seventh place, twenty four
and twenty thirteen. You go back to nineteen thirty five
for the preceding record at nine point seven, nineteen forty three,
eight point eight fifty one, and nineteen ninety tied for

(35:57):
ninth with eight point six inches. In other words, no
connection whatsoever overtime with the record snowfalls in the month
of December.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
Now who can argue with that?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Thank you, Joe covib in five fifty six. Feel free
to call me the six o'clock hour more to talk
about including wait for the bombs to drop in Venezuela.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Today's tough headlines, coming to.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
See the talk station. Happy Wednesday, Big Picture with Jack
Abbadan fast forwarding one hour from now seven o five
with Jack looking forward. That follow by Donald and Neil
from Americans for Prosperity's got a handful of endorsements. AFP's
pushing for the twenty twenty six elections. Seems a little early,
not too early. It's gonna be twenty four to seven,

(36:38):
twenty twenty sixth election from this point forward, anyhow. Judg
Jennena Paulatano at eight thirty on Tucker Carlson and the
freedom of speech. Yes, Chucky Schumer introduced a sense of
the Senate resolution to go after Tucker Carlson for what
one of his guests said, I mean even going after

(37:03):
Tucker Carlson stupid. I mean, say you want about Tucker Carlson,
love him, hate him, have neutral opinion about him, doesn't matter.
He can say anything, damn well. Pleases. We do have
a First Amendment of this country. But the idea of
a resolution from the Senate of the United States taking
time to go after something, go after Tucker Carlson condemn
him for something his guests said, I'm really looking forward
to the conversation. I'm going to have him with the

(37:24):
judge at A thirty. Always enjoy conversations with you too.
Feel free to call five one, three, seven, four nine
fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two three talk ton
five fifty on at and t phones. H Todd Zenzer
Citizen watch Dog is going to be on tomorrow. Looking
forward to that. You should follow him on Facebook just
look for Citizen Watchdog and also his podcast produced by

(37:45):
executive producer Internet Research Guru are on great guy and
private podcast producer Joe Strecker. Feel free to hire Joe
Strecker to produce your podcast just like Todd Zenzer does.
He does a great job. Thank you Joe Strecker. Jay
Ratliffe on tomorrow as well. All right, start with last week,
got a couple of related stories on this. So last

(38:07):
week the Pentagon released the latest footage yes I emphasized
that word with good reason, showing the most recent airstrike
on the Narco terrorist boats in Latin America. Okay, did
it on Monday? Blow up three of them they claim
are intelligence confirmed in the quote that the vessels were
transitting along the known narco trafficking routes in the eastern

(38:28):
Pacifician were engaged in narco trafficking. Eight males, they said
are narco terrorists or were anyway, Three killed in the
first vehicle a vessel, two killed in the second, and
three killed in the third. Right, the Pentagon released the
latest video footage. Why did he read that again? And
this was the day before, or rather right after this

(38:51):
blow up. Donald Trump announced the or declared rather that
fentanyl is a weapon of massed destruction. Where have we
heard that term before?

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Rack, So, Venezuela weapons of mass destruction. So we have
narco terrorists again, which provides the vehicle for Trump to
blow the boats up. We now have the drugs themselves
identified as weapons of mass destruction. Now, say what you

(39:31):
want about Venezuela's foreign ministry. I know we had Bagdad
Bob in Iraq and whatever came out of his mouth
was a bunch of crap anyway, And of course whatever
they say is going to might be characterizing Venezuela's benefit.
But let's hear what he had to say right already
in his twenty twenty four campaign, Trump openly stated that
his objective has always been to keep Venezuelan oil without
paying any consideration in return, making it clear that the

(39:52):
policy of aggression against our country responds to a deliberate
plan to plunder our energy wealth. The true reasons for
the prolonged aggression against Venezuelas have fighting been revealed. It's
not migration, it's not narcotics trafficking, it's not democracy, it's
not human rights. It's always been about our natural wealth. Again,

(40:14):
he can say what he wants. Pivoting over. Trump yesterday
ordered a total blockade of oil tankers entering relieving Venezuela.
And I remember we had captured of Venezuela and tanker
a week or so ago, the skipper right off the
coast of Venezuela. They claimed that it was, you know,

(40:36):
violating international sanctions. A ghost ship, which those ships are
described as ships that don't fly under any particular color
of a flag. They're either under floor foreign flags. They
obscure their origins, they changed the names of the ships,
they changed the ship ownership through shell companies. So there
are these ships out there undeniably and they are trafficking

(40:57):
in sanctioned Venezuela and oil, which of course the skipper
was I'm not even going to contest that. So what
we do with the oil becomes another issue, and my
understanding is the administration is going to court to see
if they have legal justification to keep it fine. Now,
Trump again issued this total blockade of all oil tankers

(41:20):
entering Venezuela. Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest armada
ever assembled, he said in his post in the history
of South America. It will only get bigger, and the
shock to them will be the will be like nothing
they have ever seen before until such time as they
return to the United States of America all of the oil, land,
and other assets they previously stole from us. He went

(41:43):
on to say, the illegitimate Maduro regime is using oil
from these stolen oil fields to finance themselves, drug terrorism,
human trafficking, murder, kidnapping, for the thefts of our assets,
and many other reasons including terrorism, drug smuggling, and human trafficking.
The Venezuelan regime has been designated a foreign terrorist organization.

(42:06):
So you see what he did there. He moved over
from the narco terrorists being the threat which allowed him
to blow them up. Right, debatable point. Some of my
listening audience said, we have every right in the world
to blow up those vessels. Now the whole Maduro regime
are foreign terrorists. Does anybody not see the bombs being

(42:30):
dropped on Venezuela anytime soon? He said. Therefore, today I'm
ordering a total and complete blockade of all sanctioned oil
tankers going in and out of Venezuela. The illegal aliens
and criminals of the Maduro regime is sent into the
United States during a week end and up by deministration
and being returned to Venezuela at rapid pace. America will
not allow criminals, terrorists are other countries to rob threatn
or harm our nation, and likewise will not allow hostile

(42:52):
regime to take our oil, land or any other assets,
all of which must be returned to the United States. Now,
in so far as them the Venezuelan regime taking our stuff,
that will be foreign oil companies. They were running the
oil system under the prior regimes before they went full
on socialist slash communists. But what happens under a socialist regime?

(43:13):
The state takes over the assets, right they confiscated the property.
This happens all the time. This is the risk that
private companies run when they are working in foreign lands.
What happens if the regime changes and there is no constitution,
there's no mandate that they compensate you for the land

(43:34):
or the property that they take from you that is taken.
And apparently, if you believe the outcome of the election,
the Missouri regime was full on socialists, and he took
the country full on socialists, which is why they're having
economic collapse there. But in so doing, they confiscated the
oil properties, running it themselves, as all socialist regimes do,
and of course running it into the ground, in large

(43:54):
part because they're inefficient and are don't have the skill
sets necessary to run an oil operation. But that notwithstanding,
but doesn't this sound like Iraq and the weapons of
mass destruction? It does to me, And then asked to
my emphasis on releasing footage. I find this to be
rather troubling, and fortunately there's a bipartis an effort to

(44:16):
actually get the videos of the September second Folk strike,
that's the controversial one where it was blown up, two
people survived, and then another MISSI was sent in to
dispatch the two people that were left alive. Not gonna
comment on the ethics and morality of that. But how
come we can't see the full video? Ask Pete Hegzath.
I find his arguments on shaky ground. They refuse to

(44:37):
release this full unedited vidulo A video of the September
second strike, according to Pete Heggsath, in keeping with long
standing Department of War policy, Department of Defense policy, of course,
we're not going to release a top secret, full unedited
video over that to the general public. This is a
statement he made yesterday on Capitol Hill. But we do

(44:59):
have some of the video right which show two survivors
of the initial bomb strike clinging to the boat and
then killed by a second attack. Now there's this debate,
was that an appropriate use of force or was it
a war crime? Yeah, I know, you know Joseph Paula
Thoma's position on that. I'm kind of out to lunch

(45:19):
on whether it was a war crime or not. Because
if you can justify the initial strike, if you are
at war with narco terrorists, why can't you kill the
rest of them like we do in wartime? Argue amongst yourself. Now,
the Senate is are the Pentagon is going to share
the full unedited video with members of the Senate House
Starm Service Committee, But that's behind closed doors. Pentagon spokesperson

(45:39):
said the Department of War has long standing policy of
protecting classified videos, especially those depicting extended versions of kinetic
lethal actions. They claim that declassifying the top secret video
the September second follow on strike for public consumption would
directly endanger ongoing operations, person now and assets in the area. Moreover,

(46:02):
releasing it would reveal sources, methods, and tactics which we
will not do. I come on, they say, releasing the
video risks revealing what model of aircraft was used in
the attacks. They say it could demonstrate sensitive information about

(46:26):
US military operations. Most of the informations right there what
we've seen, isn't it, And it's even reported that you know,
but you can tell by the crosshairs on the video
exactly what type of vehicle or aircraft or ammunition was
being used to blow them up. But come on, we
just want to know what the answer is. What kind

(46:47):
of sensitive information could possibly be revealed with a video
showing about a boat being blown up? I mean this,
I find this part troubling. I am all about, you know, transparency.
I'm with both lind Graham and other Democrats. On the
other side, it says release the damn footage. Graham specifically
said they should release the footage because the strikes are,

(47:08):
in his words, lawful. Least of my concerns is the
friggin video. Release it, he said, I have every confidence
of what they're doing. Is they're doing is no different
than what Bush did. Of course, it's exactly what Bush did.
It's also what Obama did. Let us have the information.
Otherwise what happens. It's like the Epstein files. If you
hide it, we all wonder what in the hell there

(47:30):
is to hide. And this video or this video would
reveal information about the controversial or maybe not blowing up
of the second that the two Narco terrorists that still survived.
Why can't we know about that? If it's all above board,
give it to us or maybe huh, maybe it's not.

(47:50):
It certainly invites that question, mark, doesn't it? Just give
us the information? Six seventeen Right now, if you five
KCD talk station foreign exchange that you're imported audible stations

(48:12):
six twenty three, fifty goot care see the talk station.
Here's a quick fun question here, uh chips opining, Well,
stuff they may not want to us to know, or
something that pete eggs that might not want to be revealed.
Maybe that laser site was on one of the boats,
meaning there was a nearby human resource. Maybe I mean
like someone on one of the multitude of naval boats

(48:35):
in the Armada that's off the coast of Venezuela. Yeah,
I think that might be a likely source of targeting.
Is that some big revelation that we need to hide? Anyhow,
I don't have the end all be all answers to everything.
I just find it kind of interesting. You don't want
these types of things to be able to fester. And
I doubt there's really anything substantive in that. And you know,

(48:57):
if there's conversation back and forth, you can bleep out
the conversation and you can quote unquote sort of redact
it electronically and let our politicians argue among themselves about
whatever has been redacted is really truly some sort of
state secret In my efforts to continue transparency, Joe Biden
doesn't want any transparency. He sent a letter over to

(49:22):
are the Archival Operations Division or the National Archives and
Records Administration. That's I guess who's who's got all of
his information and all the documents from his presidency. Quote.
I am concerned that the disclosure of these materials I
might enter jack materials related to his use of the
auto pen controversial as it was, did he specifically give

(49:43):
the authority? We don't know you have to give the
specific authority extra to use the auto pen. Many are
opining and believe that he did not, and that his
aids the puppet masters, whoever was you know, running the
ship behind Joe Biden's addled brain, actually did the authorization
and executed or use the auto pen. But he doesn't
want that information released. He claims it will it'll impair

(50:06):
the ability of future presidents to receive robust candidate advice
from close advisors. For these reasons, I hear by assert
executive privilege over the documents listed. He said, I've raised
no objections to multiple requests for presidential records from my administration,
et cetera, et cetera. But these records specifically reflect presidential
decision making and deliberations. So he's worried about the future
president he's worried about Donald Trump. The White House responded, saying, uh, now,

(50:34):
we're denying the calls for executive immunity. As President Trump
has stated, of the abuse of the autopen that took
place under the Biden presidency and the extraordinary efforts to
shield Biden's diminished faculties from the public, must be subject
to a full accounting. I'm sure that nothing similar ever
happens again. He also appointed out Biden's repeated abuses of
the rights of American citizens during the pandemic, his politically

(50:55):
motivated efforts to investigate members of Congress MMMM should also
be subject to a full accounting to ensure that nothing
similar ever happens again. Which is a great point, which
is why I'm all about letting these records come out,
most notably given the fact that we just found out
that the FBI did not have probable cause to raid
Marl Lago to get the claimed classified documents from Donald

(51:17):
Trump's possession. Now we know this, the memos are out.
They had no problem cause they did it. Anyway, Is
this the kind of information you and I should be
entitled to, including whether the auto pen was abused, And
if you don't let us have the records, the questions

(51:37):
will swirl, the conversations will continue, and of course the
conspiracy theories will emerge over and over and over again.
What would solve all that problem transparency Epstein files. Give
us the dam files. Everything will shut up, everybody will
shut up. Just give it to us, or they'll make
hay out of maybe probably nothing, but that's going to happen.

(52:00):
They're making hay and they're they're making articles and accusations
in the absence of information. Oh my god, so and
so is implicated in the Epstein. Okay, implicated says, you
give us a documents and we'll know if what you're
saying is true. Six twenty seven fifty five KCD Talk
Station USA's premium film is not too late. The calendar
year is not over yet. We're CD talk Station a

(52:20):
very happy Wednesday to You do have local stories, but
I've got somebody online. You can also be online. I'll
take your call after the next caller five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two three talk pound
five fifty on eight and t founds. Welcome back. Maureen's
good to hear from me this morning.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Good morning, Brian. As you remember when I called them Monday,
I told you about how the depositions were supposed to
take place with Bill Clinton today and Hillary tomorrow. Well
they've postponed it. Oh yeah, now it's going to be
January thirteenth and fourteenth. And they're citing that it was
reason it's due to a funeral that they need to

(52:57):
attend somebody else they killed.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
Yeah, well that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Somebody put in the comments. Whose funeral is it?

Speaker 10 (53:04):
And is it?

Speaker 5 (53:04):
They haven't decided yet.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That's good high comedy.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Yeah. So anyway, but the Epstein Files Transparency Act, you know,
that was past the November and it was given thirty
days and I mentioned mayday that that thirty days is
up this Friday, so that is going to be coming out.
And that's all the information from, you know, the sealed indictments.
So that should reveal pretty much well.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Well until we see it will be Maureen, And I
guess I have to ask out loud since this information
was all behind the scenes and apparently accessible by at
least some elected officials, at least under the Biden administration.
Of course, now the Trump administration, don't you think given
all the leaks that we've seen. If there was anything
really horrifically damning in there that somebody on one side

(53:51):
of the political ledger would have released it already for
their own advantage. I think this is going to be
my listen, my tea leaves say, this is going to
be a big nothing burger.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
What do you think, Well, I think it's going to
be more. I think it's going to unfold slowly, but
it will. I think it's a big sting operation. And
I also think the election brought is a big sting operation.
And I think it's all it is all going to
be revealed. But now Nancy Pelosi has been given a
subpoena by the Justice Department of Justice in California, and

(54:23):
that's related to January sixth. That news came out yesterday.
That should be something interesting that's going to unfold. But
also Trumps speaking tonight, and there's a lot of speculation
about what that topic is going to be. And I
don't know if it's I mentioned Monday about how we
may be instituting a national election emergency. I don't know
if that's what it's going to be. But Telsea Gabert

(54:44):
has been out speaking being pretty outspoken about the investigation
of the electronic voting machines and paper by midterms.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
We can speculate all day long until you start talking
about it. I guess my submarine or friend curbage Mike
segu And maybe tonight he's going to be talking about
dropping bombs on Venezuela. Since he just declared the whole
regime a terrorist operation that coupled with weapons of mass destruction.
The label he's now given to fentanyl sounds to me
like we're setting ourselves up for Iraq too. Maybe he'll

(55:14):
address that. We'll see. Yeah that, Maureen, I know your
popcorns out, My popcorns out.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I'll continue to enjoy it until I get the info.
You know me, I like to see concrete information. Thank you, Maureen.
I do appreciate your thoughts and comments and all of
your inside info you send me on Facebook. Please say
investigating a shooting Winton Hills, which of all the police
chase having. Yesterday two forty five pm, police officers were
called the forty forty seven hundred block of East Avenue

(55:42):
for a reported shooting victim eighteen years old out of
the SD Avenue scene while giving victim medical attention. Police
say officers relate information about the suspect and the vehicle
involved in the shooting. Thereafter, Please since I. Police say
officers found a vehicle matching description. They tried to stop
the vehicle, but the driver refused and kept driving. A

(56:04):
chase followed. Police were able to stop the vehicle. Person
was detained by the officers. Police could not confirm if
that person was tied to the shooting. Police said no
suspects are in custody. The victim is expected to be okay.
So Joe Strecker keeping tabs on aft TAB and the
City of Cincinnati's voting record. Ninety percent of the folks

(56:26):
there in Wittenhills voted for AFTAB, pro ball and the
current council as this tradition. Thanks Joe. Six point thirty
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Jack Avid in after the top of the air news
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(56:50):
I'm optimistic you might, you know, try to get us
in the holiday spirit. Jack out again after the top
of the air news. Let's go to the phones five one, three, seven,
nine fifty hundred and eighty two to three talk or
a pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Jeff,
thanks for calling this morning, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Good morning, sir, and thank you for work. And I
have a question. I heard you say something regarding them
going into Donald Trump's place down at mar A Largo
and they didn't have a search warrant.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Now assuming no, they had a warrant, but they have
the FBI internals, and I was going to get to
that next, but here jump into the gun. The internal
FBI folks who were writing heard over it do not believe,
or did not at the time, believe they had established
probable cause to get a search warrant. You got to
go to court and say here's the reason why we're

(57:39):
you know, it's it's worthy for you to issue a
warrant probable cause, we have evidence indicator crimes being committed,
which allows us to search the place. There was a
question within the FBI whether they even had probable cause
to go in. They had no evidence, and they were
looking around for it and couldn't find any. And yet
a warrant was issued, none of us.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
I understand you saying that, But isn't there something illegal
about having no idea of what they're talking about and
they just go in anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yes, it's a violation, James Cope, it's a constitutional violation.
That's a civil rights violation, caught a Fourth Amendment violation?

Speaker 7 (58:15):
Is it too? Is it too much of an assumption
to say that.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Did we lose them the Jeff you just trailed off?
Is it too much of an assumption? That was the
last word.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I heard, too.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
Much of an assumption to say that James Comy or
whoever was in charge of the FBI should be held
legally liable for that. That's his job. He's supposed to
know what the heck's going on.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
That's right. That's why I'm happy to see the files
that have just been released. These documents from behind the
scenes reflect that they did not believe they had probable cause,
you know, l and behold they were magically able to
get a search more an issue by a judge. I
the first time this has been revealed, and it is
a civil rights violation. Yes, someone can be held accountable. Question,
will anybody be held accountable? The everlasting question that is

(59:03):
always swirling about some issue, most notably about the activities
against Donald Trump during the prior administration. Suns so dive
into details on that the FBI didn't believe it had
probable cause. According to the Senator Chuck Grassley, who got
into the documents, the FBI Washington Field Office said, quote,
it does not believe and has articulated to the Department

(59:25):
of Justice that we have established probable cause for the
search warrant for classified records at mar Lago. That's one
of the records document continues. DOJ has opined that they
do have probable cause requesting a wide scope including residents
office storage based close quote well, that would include Milania

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Trump's garment drawer and her underwear drawer that they rifled through,
as well the broad search that they wanted, which they got. Apparently.
The official noted that the agents had spent six weeks
trying to establish probable cause, but those efforts were counterproductive.

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According to the official in the bureau's Washington Field office, quote,
we haven't generated any new facts, but we keep being
given a draft after draft absent a witness coming forward
with recent information about classified on site, meaning that there
are classified documents there. There was just speculation that there were.

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At what point is it fair to table this? In
other words, give up on trying to find probable cause.
The same interviews with witnesses also did not yield any
proof that sensitive intelligence files were hidden at the form
or that Trump's estate, since he returned a whole bunch
of the documents. Back in June of twenty twenty two,

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Senator Grassley, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, posted on x
that these records were shocking, these revelations, pointing out the
FBI didn't it self believe it had probable cause to
raid Trump's residents, but they did it anyway, and the DOJ,
in spite of the field agents saying we don't have
enough information to get a warrant, pushed it forward, ignoring
their own people and their own analysis. Says the communications

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revealed the bureau wanted the warrant to be executed quote
in a professional, low key manner, mindful of the optics
of the search. Well, I think you probably remember what
do they do? They called CNN up. They all had
their camerackers ready for the FBI agents to roll in,
guns pulled, kicking in doors, rifling through the residents. Yeah,
that was real low key, and that trip was most

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assuredly not necessary, whether they had a legitimate warn or not.
It's just crazy. I mean, this is why all this
is worthy of being investigated. It shouldn't happen to a
Republican president. It certainly shouldn't happen to a Democrat president.
It shouldn't happen. Our elected officials are supposed to treat

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all of us equal under the laws. If you don't
have pill cause, you don't have probable cause, give it up.
But no, we've got to go after evil Orange men.
We'll do it anyway, we damn well please. And I
love the optics they having CNN there showing all the
FBI agents with the lights flashing in, guns pulled and
kicking in the door. Trump's how something must have been
going on in there. Evil Orange men most assuredly had

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classified documents. Yeah, how'd that work out for you?

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Look, he's president. He won the popular vote in the
electoral college. Interesting that six forty six right now, feel
free to get a call Chimney Care fireplaces to have
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fifty one and fifty five kre C detalk station, Jack
Avid in after the top of the hour news Big Picture,
a classic Christmas movie, and then Donovan and Eil with
some endorsements AFP's God Americans for Prosperity for the twenty

(01:02:46):
twenty six elections. So that's coming up. Hope you can
stick around for that and feel free to call Tom's
on the phone. You can call as well five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty eight hundred and eight two three talk Tom,
thanks for calling this morning. Happy Wednesday to you.

Speaker 11 (01:02:58):
Happy one say to you.

Speaker 12 (01:03:00):
So it looks like Mike de Wine and David Yost
and Keith Favor, they're really taking a special interest in
all these Haitians living up in Springfield, Ohio, which they're
going to lose their temporary protection status on February third,
and we the taxpayers have been paying tens of millions

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of dollars helping them run these health clinics, driving schools,
language classes for them that learn English, and all the
businesses like the landscaping companies, roofing and manufacturing companies in
that general area. They're getting all this cheap labor, yet
they're really not passing on any of these if you
could hire a contractor to do your landscaping, you're not

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getting a price break because they're getting that cheaper labor
on the backs of the other taxpayer. So that's like
playing favoritism to his group of buddies up in that
Springfield area, which he takes such a big interest. He
doesn't want to see them all going back and being
shipped out of here. But yeah, there's another one of

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our Yeah, you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Mind, I can't speak to what any given landscaping company,
even if they're hiring Haitians sort of doing the landscaping work,
are are are passing along a discount to the consumer
or not. You know, it's a competitive world out there,
and there are other landscaping companies, and so if you
do competitive bidding, you're going to find out whether one
bid is higher than another. But that's up to them.
But yeah, it is rather interesting that he has such
an engaged interest in the protecting the Haitian community and

(01:04:31):
preventing Trump from well operating under his his band. His
banning of Haitians from their temporary immigration status. You know,
it's a temporary thing. It never wasn't meant to be permanent,
was it. Right right, new administration, new sheriff in town,
new policies, we all have to deal with that.

Speaker 12 (01:04:51):
Mist Swami pronounce his name correctly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
But Rama Swami Ram Well, hopefully he'll do a better job.
I think he's assured us Hioans that that is his platform.
He's willing to cooperate with the federal government, and I
don't want to put words in his mouth, at least
in so far as ice enforcement actions are concerned. He's
not going to make Ohio a sanctuary state. We can
all be confident in that question marks swirling around where

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the wine's coming from on this position. I don't know
what it is about the Haitian community up in Springfield.
I don't know how the residents of Springfield feel about it,
but maybe it is an employment related thing because one
of the specific comments he made nobody's going to fill
these jobs. There will be no one to fill these jobs.
First off, I don't know where that what particular industries
the Haitian community is operating. Maybe it's landscaping, I don't know.

(01:05:39):
I'm not painting with that broad of a bridge. Probably
impacted some degree, But why aren't there enough people to
fill these jobs? Are these jobs Americans won't do, a
term that I find rather offensive. You don't have a job,
you're not working that is a job you can do.
I presume if it's a menial labor job, it won't
be a permanent job. Much in the same way working

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at McDonald's as a burger flipper is not intended to
be permanent employment, as a stepping stone to establish a
record and prove that you can show up to work
on time while you do make some money and use
that experience and as a segue to go get a
different job. That's the way it always worked. I don't
know why I can't work now, but yeah. Let's look
into the reasons Mike Dwine has such a keen interest

(01:06:20):
in the Haitian community in Springfield. Let's look into Mike
DeWine and why he has such a keen interest in
a variety of different things that seemed contrary to Republican
Party platforms and principles, at least traditional ones. Let's ask
Mike DeWine why he seems to be protecting Amy acton
who's going to be the one opposing vveg Ramaswami in
the upcoming up good natorial election. He went out on
a limb to point out the bucks stopped with him

(01:06:42):
and so far as lockdowns were concerned. But he's not
a doctor, is he. Do you think he came up
with the ideas? No Amy Acton came up with him,
and while it is under his administration, and he did
pick that very blue Democrat to have that position. Question
mark swirling about that one as well. He didn't have
to accept a recommendation, but he did so her ideas.

(01:07:03):
And if you're choosing a candidate just because you have
a governor that followed along with some bad ideas, do
you want the person who came up with the bad
ideas to run the entire state. I'm a firm no
on that one. We'll have time between now and November
to figure it out on our own, and there will
be debates. I can pretty much count on that. Six
fifty five ifty five Krsity talk Station Jack Avid in

(01:07:24):
up next, and Donald and Neil at seven thirty will
be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Today's top headlines coming up at Socialist.

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Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Seven oh five care fifty five kr CD talk station.
Welcome Christmas music there for the Vinzcarraldi trio. You know
how much I love that, and you know how much
I love having Jack avid In on the program. It
is the time of week at seven oh five every
Wednesday we do what we call the Big Picture with
Jack adid In. Welcome Back, my friend. Is always a
real pleasure to he on the show.

Speaker 10 (01:08:01):
Oh Ho ho, pal, Yes, we're gonna smile this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Goodness the classic Christmas movie. The topic that was given
me for your subject matter this morning is, oh, maybe
Jack will get us in the Christmas spirit. Nobody could
do it better than you.

Speaker 13 (01:08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:08:16):
I brought that up because Brian, as you've been noting,
there are a lot of maddening things we could talk about.
One that we have been and that's getting overlooked now
with all the violence. Republican lawmakers, with the exception of
a very few like Grand Paul, having done nothing since
twenty seventeen about replacing Obamacare with free market reforms that

(01:08:41):
would cost us nothing. This could cost us instead the midterms,
and we've done nothing because these lawmakers are bought and
paid for by insurance and pharmaceutical donors or ahead of
the President's speech tonight, we could discuss blockading Venezuela like
it or not, it's an active war, folks. We could

(01:09:02):
talk about Brown University shooting the hon A combassacre in Australia.
We could talk about Rob Reiner because speaking of Rob
Reiner and this is what gave me the idea. We disagreed,
but he made a lot of great movies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Amen, So let's do this.

Speaker 10 (01:09:18):
Let's be happy for this last time we get together
before Christmas and talk about our favorite Christmas movies. Mine
actually has a somewhat serious message, but it's a comedy.
What's your favorite Christmas movie?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Brian Oh, Charlie Brown's Merry Christmas, Charlie Brown. I always
go to that one because I think the story is
an important one. You know, the commercialization of Christmas, and
of course the true meaning of Christmas is lost in
the commercialization. And you know, Jacket's funny because that movie
or that show, of course, half hour show. But I
was really an I depression that that was kind of

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like the genesis of the attack on the commercialization of Christmas.
I watched Miracle on thirty four Street the other day
with my wife, and I can't remember what year it was,
nineteen five Orties movie. If I recall correctly, he was
black and white. They were attacking the commercial commercialization of
Christmas back then too, So this is a phenomenon that's
going on a long time. But that one and a
Christmas Story, which I really enjoy that one. But that also,

(01:10:16):
I think is it puts pressure on parents to, you know,
to get their kids every year that red Ryder bebie
Gun or an analogous version of that for their kids,
because boy, if you don't do that, you're not a
good parent. So there's a kind of a mixed message
built into that one.

Speaker 10 (01:10:30):
Jack Well, you remember Linus's last line, but he tells
the Christmas story. That's what Christmas is all about. Charlie Brown. Yeah,
and you know, as far as Jeane Shepherd goes, who
I used to listen to on the radio in New York,
I don't know if they played them out here. Obviously,
nobody ever told little Brian Thomas, you'll shoot your eye
out thistle Pete Hexset's Department of War envies this man's arsenal.

(01:10:54):
And yes, one of my family's favorites is the original
Miracle on thirty fourth Street. They remade it, but it's
not as good. When they were small, our girls knew
there were a lot of different guys in red suits
who take a picture with you were shopping malls. But
the real Sata Clause was the one who worked at
Macy's in New York City and then slid down our chimney. However, however,

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the number one Christmas movie in our house is one
you may not have heard of. It's one of the
great films of Hollywood's Golden Age, Diehard The Shop around
the Corner. The Shop around the Corner has a plot
that is so great it's been remade twice and turned
into a Broadway show. Here's the story. In a small

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leather good shop, two co workers bicker all day long,
not realizing that at night, anonymously, they've been writing love
letters to each other. When the movie was updated as
You've Got Mail, you remember that one. Oh yeah, Tom
Hanks was the big bad owner of a book store, Shane,

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that was putting Meg Ryan's little shop out of business.
The original Shop around the Corner did not have an
anti capitalist agenda. That's new Hollywood. Instead, this nineteen forty
film showed how a half dozen employees of the shop
were able to eat during the Great Depression in Europe
as the Nazis were about to invade thanks to a

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crazy entrepreneur and his small business. The cast, headed by
Jimmy Stewart and Margaret Sullivan, is perfect, and the director
Ernst Lubich managed w witty, warm hearted comedy like nobody else.
But even the remakes remind us that when people see
a good story, they love seeing it again and again.

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How many times have they remade Dickens? Christmas Carol I
wrote that, yeah, we may started long long before that.
My old friends, the ancient Greeks who invented drama, seldom
came up with news stories. Hilosophocles Euripides instead told ancient tales.
The audience knew what was coming, but they cherished that familiarity.

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Same thing with Shakespeare. He often wrote about history, and
his other plays told familiar stories too. For instance, there
had been another Hamlet just before Shakespeare came out with
his own version. Audiences loved them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Both.

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
Our ancestors loved hearing folk tales about American heroes, mythical
ones like Paul Bunyan. Today, Paul would be arrested by
Tim Watson Minnesota for cutting down trees. But Americans also
used to repeat stories about real life heroes. Maybe George
Washington as a boy did not actually say I cannot

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tell a lie I chopped down the cherry tree. I
was never crazy about that story, and George sounded too
much like Eddie Haskell and leave it to Bee. But
most of the stories about General Washington, and Washington the
leader of the Constitutional Convention, and Washington our first president

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who set the example of accepting strong but limited power,
those stories were all true. That's why even King George
back in England called our George the greatest man in
the world. He actually said that we don't see a
lot of movies today about Washington or Lincoln, much less
the two Roosevelts or Ronald Reagan, because children are no

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longer taught to honor these heroes the way Romans were
taught to honor Julius Caesar and British people honored one
of Shakespeare's kings, King Henry the Fifth. At least they
used to today, and it's been this way for decades.
I remember it when I was to school, Brian, and
I'm old schools either don't teach history, or they debunk heroes.

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Schools and Hollywood would rather celebrate victims. Even heroes like
doctor Martin Luther King Junior are not celebrated for over
coming challenges, for demanding to be judged by his character,
not the color of his skin. Too many of us
today just want to remember doctor King as a victim.

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There are no historic heroes in the shop are on
the corner, but there are everyday heroes, men and women
who stand up for hard work, supporting their families, generosity
and love. My family love this movie and we think
you will too. It ends with the merriest, happiest Christmas,
which is what I wish everyone amid all the craziness,

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especially you and Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
My friends truly appreciate that. Jack. It's a wonderful sentiment.
Of course, back to you and your loved ones from
j Just Trecker and I at the fifty five Casne
Morning Show, which you talk about honoring those heroes and
the reasons in their accomplishments, I wrote down Cuba. If
you recall after the Cuban Revolution, what if Fidel Castro
do He would talk endlessly up over and over again

(01:15:56):
about the importance of the revolution, what it meant to
overthrow Batista, what it meant for the people of Cuba.
And it was indoctrination. And they did it in their
classrooms and they still do it to this day. The
glory of the Cuban Revolution, the glory of Castro, they
haven't forgotten about it. As terrible as their situation is,
it's that indoctrination and that sort of creation of a

(01:16:17):
love for you know, the late Feedel Castro, like it
or not, at least you know, he took the time
to ingrain in his citizenship, his citizens how they got
from before under that form of corruption, into the system
that they got into. We haven't when do we quit
Why did we quit teaching history? Why do we quit
teaching about what our revolution meant and the reasons behind it?

(01:16:38):
Jack Adad and I know taxation without representation was a
key element and why we overthrew the reins from England
on our country. You know, our children have forgotten about that.

Speaker 10 (01:16:50):
Well, we stopped teaching these stories because the left hates
the country. It's a terrible thing to say Christmas, and
I apologize for it. And it's not in keeping it
with the tone of what I have to say. But
it's true. They feel this country was doomed from its
birth because it was unjust. But you don't have to
wait for Hollywood, folks. If you're looking for a good

(01:17:12):
Christmas story for your kids or grandkids, tell it yourself.
I mean, how about this one about our Fidel Castros
not the way to put it, perhaps, although let's face it,
Fidel was heroic going up against Batista. Let's talk about
George Washington on Christmas night in seventeen seventy six, at

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the British forced the general and his starving army out
of New Jersey into Pennsylvania. Washington and about twenty five
hundred soldiers, many of them who didn't have shoes or
hadn't had anything to eat, They crossed the icy Delaware
River during a hollacious snowstorm. Their password was victory or death.

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General Washington's brigades then marched on Trenton, New Jersey, caught
enemy troops there by surprise and turn the tide of
the entire war. I don't think Hollywood has made a
movie about this, but tell the story and show the kids.
Emmanuel Loots his famous painting Washington crossing the Delaware. That

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picture is worth a thousand words and a thousand Hollywood blockbusters.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Yeah, that's that's great. I think it's a great point, Jack,
and just reminds me of a Christmas tradition my wife
and I have. We go to the Art Museum and
the only purpose of our visit to the Art Museum
every year Christmas time is to see the Uh it's
it's a painting called the Midnight Mass done by a
local artist. Oh it's well over one hundred years old,

(01:18:40):
but it's Mount Adams and it's that that Catholic Church
of Mount Adams. You're the one that the steps goes
up to and there's you know, you see the lights
through the windows, but it's a milk covered a milk
painting covered, so it looks, you know, foggy and snowy,
and the rest of Mount Adams is almost completely dark.
There's one little lit window here and there. We'll stare
at that for fifteen or twenty minutes every year because

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it's just to me and to my wife, it just
kind of sums up the Christmas feeling and the Christmas attitude.
We always walk out with a real positive spirit about that.
So if you're looking for something else to do along
those lines. I don't over to the art Museum, but
I got to comment real quick here because I talked
about the commercialization of Christmas. Of course, Charlie Brown does
and The Miracle on thirty Fourth Street as great a

(01:19:22):
movie as it was, you know it was. It's an
uplifting movie and everything, but they too had a lot
of this sole commercial commercialization component in that movie. Remember
of the Macy's in Gimbals Battle. Macy's was the store
where the Santa Claus was working, and he was referring
people over to Gimbals, the competitor, or other stores that
had the goods that the people were in the store

(01:19:42):
looking for. And everybody went crazy, like, oh my god,
he's referring business. He's going to impact our profit margin.
As it turns out, everybody was so happy with it.
More people wanted to shop in Macy's because they engaged
in that policy, you know, helping people out. That's called goodwill,
and it can innure to your benefit even if it
doesn't improve your bottom line, right Jack, Yeah, And.

Speaker 10 (01:20:01):
It happens even now you'll have employees that will really
help you. I mean the amount of time that they'll
spend on the phone with you for Amazon or some
of these other It was just on with Spectrum the
other day. It's incredible. Unfortunately, more and more of those
good people are becoming AI robots. Yeah, that's a whole
different topic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
It is Jack Advan, Merry Christmas to you and Ainsley,
your beautiful better half. I hope you have a joyous
holiday spirit. If you're traveling, I wish you and your
wife's very safe travels. And I'm gonna I'm already looking
forward to another year with you on the program and
doing such a wonderful, wonderful job with your commentary. I
get so many comments from people who truly enjoy hearing

(01:20:41):
from you as much as I do. So God bless you,
sir for doing what you do.

Speaker 10 (01:20:45):
Thank you, Brian, Merry Christmas, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
True blessing to have you on so thank you. Former
FOP president Dan Hills. It is the Immaculated Church got
a text. I couldn't remember this in Midnight Mass. You
can see it at the Art Museum. It's the artist
was Edward Timothy Hurley and it was painted in nineteen eleven. Anyway,
that's an annual visit for my wife and me, and
I'm looking forward to doing it again. And I said thanks.

(01:21:08):
I guess I could argue because I'm not Catholic, that
I didn't know the name, but anybody who's lived in
Cincinnati as long as I have full off the name
of Immaculated Church. So Merry Christmas, Dan Hills, God bless you, sir,
and I appreciate that. Let's get Joey's call in real
quick here before we get to Americans for Prosperities, Donald
and Neil. Joey, thanks for calling this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:21:27):
Welcome, Hey, you're welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Hey.

Speaker 11 (01:21:30):
I just wanted to comment on Jack Is. His voice
is so sincere and commanding and heartfelt and everything. The
way he's just sell the truth about any particular situation.
He is very Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Harvey like, you know why, Joey, because he is that's him.
I mean, you can't. It's like I sing on the
Morning Show. I've said it before, Joey. You know when
I speak for a sponsor. I couldn't lie to you, Joey.
I don't know you faced face, but I wouldn't lie
to you. You listen to the program. Why would I lie?
Jack Evans, he sounds believable. He sounds compelling is because

(01:22:07):
he believes in what he says. He's not trying to
pull some kind of stunt. And nobody can lie all
the time and get away with it. You can hear
it in the voice inflection, right, you know, when someone's
trying to pull a ruse.

Speaker 11 (01:22:19):
He's incredible. He really should almost go nationally. And I
know this is big, but start here or whatever. And
you know, once every other hour during the day, when
you heard Paul Harvey's five minutes, it was so refreshing. Yeah,
and man, he is just incredible. He really should consider
doing something like that. And the other thing I want
to point out, just real quick for hang up is

(01:22:42):
some of the comparisons you're given to movies. I had
an incredible experience myself that I did something really big
for a couple of younger people and they found out
what a history Buffy was. And this has been a
few years ago, and they were talking about, my god,
what's going on. One kid in fifth third Bank could
wait till I come in to get analogy of what
was happening currently in the world, which was really bad

(01:23:05):
going on a few years ago. And finally him and
a bagger at Kroger.

Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
To be honest with you, couldn't wait to pick my.

Speaker 11 (01:23:10):
Brain every day to get advice, almost like fatherlike advice.
And I kept telling them and it dawn on me
one day with the kid in the bank, I said,
you know what, have you ever watched Chandler's List? Had
no idea what it was. I said, I'm going to
tell you something. Over the weekend. I want you to
take the time and rent and go get the movie
or rent it whatever you do, and watch Schindler's List.

(01:23:33):
It'll give you the best parallel to the road that
we're heading down, and explain it to you because they
don't in school, and they didn't in school with you
obviously of what is happening and what could happen. And
you know, both those kids watch Schindler's List and it
is a tool to teach a young mind, to just

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really give them some enlightenment that they're not getting at school.
Both those kids will never forget me because of watching
that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Excellent suggestion, Joey. Outstanding suggestion. I'm glad you called up,
and I appreciate your kind words for jack Athan and
I share your comments and your sentiments and Yeah, that
is an outstanding movie, you know, talking about great teacher.

Speaker 11 (01:24:16):
Tell a young mind to watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Yeah, you knew you had a lazy teacher in school
when they would fire a movie up rather than teach class. Well,
I think that's a worthy endeavor. Fire up that particular
movie and it will be a great learning experience for
the young people. Just consider it. Thank you, Joey, God
bless you, sir, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Donovan O'Neil from Americans for Prosperity, Welcome back to the
fifty five Carcey Morning Show, my friend Brian. Great to

(01:24:39):
be with you, as always, always a pleasure. Now you've
got some AFP has some endorsements. I mean, we're already
talking about the November twenty sixth elections, Donovan. I know
that comes as no shock to you. It's certainly not
a shock to me. But it seems like we've been
talking about it now for a couple of years. Ever
since Trump was sworn in. Everybody's looking forward to the
midterm elections and oh my god, the Democrats are going
to wall up the Republicans and we'll see how that goes.

(01:25:01):
But you've got some endorsements already. But before we get
to that, I don't want to throw a curveball your direction, Donovan,
but I'm curious to know if you've reached any conclusion
about what the hell Governor Mike DeWine's issue is with
VV Ramaswami and his seemingly providing some cover for Amy
acton Amy lockdown acting, he said, no, the buck stops
with me. All those decisions were mine, in spite of

(01:25:22):
the fact he's not a doctor and he didn't create
the ideas of lockdowns. Those were exclusively hers. But why
hasn't he endorsed Vvke in spite of the fact the
Republican Party has already? Do you can you make any
you know, can you come to any conclusion or have
you drawn any conclusions about that at AFP Donovan?

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
My observation there, Brian is that it's a fundamental difference
in visions for the state, and you know you have
that in a political party, right, they're both Republicans. But
the vision Mike Dwine has for the state, as we've
seen play out over the last several years, has been
more spending, bigger government. There've been good things done here, right,

(01:26:03):
but I think what you see with vakas somebody's bold
and going to move the state in a dramatically different direction,
in my opinion, for the better. And so I don't
know how that kind of stuff gets plays out in
a public facing environment, but I think, you know, we're
going to stay the course and stay focused on twenty
six and the opportunity that presents, as well as with

(01:26:25):
the next governor, the ability to do the big, bold
things that we've been talking about for the last five
years in our Buckeye Blueprint, like lowering taxes, expanding education, opportunity,
cutting a tape, and so that's where that's where our
focus is. And we think a new governor is going
to provide a lot of great opportunities rather than a
lot of really bad vetos, which is what we've seen
this year from Governor to Wine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Well in the big hurdle that the facing Republicans generally speaking,
Trump generally speaking, and of course something that might very well,
very well impact them interm elections and moving away from
Obamacare and whether or not we get subsidies out there.
But in inflation, and I keep you know, hearing, oh
my god, Donald Trump, it's his fault. Inflation inflation, inflation.
I just looked at something like, look at the state

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of California and compared to you're just here in the
state of Ohio. In spite of what Governor de Wine's
done here, and I know he has caused prices to
perhaps go up because of the red tape you mentioned.
The more red tape, the more expensive it is. How
much is a gallon of gas in California, It's like
five bucks. Nationally we're under three bucks. Wonder why that is.
Is that inflation? No, it's California sticking it to their
own people. It's too expensive to buy gas there because

(01:27:30):
of all the regulatory environment. Build yourself a fifteen hundred
square foot house in California and compared to building one
here or pretty much any other state, not any other
red state, it's a fraction of the cost. Why is
that regulatory hurdles, impositions of costs and fines and all
other form of government control to make it impossible to
buy something, You know, we do it to ourselves. The

(01:27:51):
green energy policy, I mean Barack Obama set it out loud.
The price of gas will necessarily increase, not naturally based
upon the laws of supplying demand, but the regulatory environment
that choked the oil and gas industry to the point
where it became too expensive. These are self created problems
that are easily solvable by getting rid of the red tape.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Oh totally, Well, there was an opportunity to do that
included in the most recent state budget. It was vetoed
by the governor. We've got a handful of property tax
reform bills, right, folks. That's been the number one issue
for Ohioans for the last several years, as their property
taxes have spiked. Those bills are still sitting on a
desk in the Governor's mansion awaiting signature. But beyond just

(01:28:37):
governor one, I agree with you, Brian, like I typically do,
which is that you know, a lot of the problems
our nation faces are state faces. Are problems created by
government allowing bureaucrats and elected officials to take and these
so called experts right to take and control our lives
and control the regulatory environment that we have to live in.

(01:28:57):
And it doesn't have to be that way. We don't
have to have leaders who look to take our freedom
and the liberties from us. We kind of like leaders
who are going to protect us from government and that's
what you know, you and your listeners know we at
AFP Ohio are working to do every day.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
And that's because and that's you vetted candidates which you're
going to talk about here in the next segment that
you know obviously are in line with what you and
I are talking about tomorrow. So we'll find out about
these endorsed candidates for Americans for Prosperity with Donovan and'
neil pause from Roman, let me first mention plumb type
plumbing plumbing the station, Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas here with

(01:29:34):
Donovan and Neil from Americans for Prosperity. You can probably
get some tips here at the end of the segment
with Donovan on how we can get involved, and getting
involved in advance of November of next year is really
important thing to do. Get to know your candidates and
the endorsed candidates from Americans for Prosperity. We've got a
few of them to talk about this morning. Do you,

(01:29:54):
in advance of endorsing in particular candidate Donovan, do you
sit down with them face to face and talk with them.
You just look at their campaign materials, what they've said
before the record. How does that all go or is
it a multitude of all the four going?

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Well, it's a multitude of all of those, right. It's
not something that we just pass out. You know, party
designation doesn't weigh in. You know, these dings isn't an
automatic qualifier. We we have a policy survey that we
we pass out to folks. We then have them sit
down and we spend time talking through these things with them.

(01:30:28):
And it's a long process right where We've got a
great member of our team, Tim Ross, our deputy state
director of Political Director, and brought him on a few
years back because you know, good policy doesn't just happen
out of thin air. It happens because we have good
elected officials who folks who wan't vote for send to

(01:30:49):
Washington or Columbus, and when they get there, instead of
just going along to get along, they help enact a
bold policy agenda. And that's you know a big part
of our process when we're talking with these folks and
getting it under getting to know them and talking to
our activists about the people they see leading in their community.
We're looking for folks right who are going to go
to Columbus and help move AHIW toos your percent income tax,

(01:31:11):
help empower families with true universal school choice and opportunity,
going to cut the red tape and modernize Ohio's broken
government system. There's a lot to be done, and it
takes bold, committed leaders to get up, get out there
and get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Now, I've got advocates for folks getting involved with Central Committee,
and then I have people who say, oh, the Central
Committees is a waste of time. We get nothing but
garbage from them. Do you talk with the Republican Central
Committee or even the Higo State Republican Party sort of
via Alex Chreantofilo when you're talking about these different endorsements,
or you just leave them out of the equation and
do your own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Well, it to be clear, we were an independent organization,
right and we make our own decisions about the kind
of the folks we're going to endorse and put our
Buckeye Blueprint support behind. But we don't. We have a
lot of coalition partners and so folks from you know.

Speaker 7 (01:32:06):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Regular political infrastructure of the county parties, state party political parties,
to the grassroots organizations and clubs across the state. There
are a lot of folks who recognize the impact that
our activists tot afp Ohio have and they like to
share their opinions. At the end of the day, we
make these decisions based on how we're going to advance

(01:32:28):
our policy agenda, the policy agenda that is built through
the Buckeye Blueprint listening tours that we do around the
state to hear from the grassroots activists who want to
see a Boulder, better Buckeye state for all Ohiolands.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Great, so you have just established your independence. You are
not driven by what they tell you to do or
what they say. You do your own thing. And perhaps
then you influence the Central Committee of the Republican Party
in Ohio through your endorsements, which many would argue you
have more credibility. All right, moving over, let's talk about
some of these folks. How about Mike Caho. This is
District thirty one with that out. That's outside of Act.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Right, That's right, it's outside of Akron. Mike is great.
He former local elected official school board member. Part of
that was a member of Lieutenant Governor Houston's team on
the Ohio Common Sense Initiative, which is dialed in on
finding and reforming broken regulations here in the state of

(01:33:20):
how the regulations that hold folks back, and so Mike
is a great guy and somebody who when we look
at cutting red tape and reforming government, I think is
going to have a fresh look at these things and
is driven to see those reforms happen. He's seen the
problems on the executive side of the equation, and I
think as a legislator, he's going to help dial in
on bills and reforms that are going to help ensure

(01:33:43):
that the power isn't with the bureaucrats and big arcane
government buildings, but rather with the people, by way of
the legislature, the folks who are supposed to make the
laws that govern our state and our people fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Vic Sandhu from Ohio House District thirty five, which looks
like it's one of these suburbs of the greater Cleveland area,
very blue area, But do we have some hope that
we can sway some of the folks outside of Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Vic's actually a longtime activist with us. He'm a business owner.
He opened up a gas station for one of the
gas price rollbacks we did to highlight the impact of Bidenomics.
He's somebody who has actually sought us out and it's
wanted to help understand how he can make an impact
after hearing our message and being involved a leader in
his own right. But we're really excited to get behind

(01:34:30):
Vic Sandu, business owner gets school choice and really importantly
understands that folks shouldn't be forced to pay dues to
a union something not a lot of people get.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Yeah, amen to that, my friend, if you might, well,
we'll pause. We're bringing back talk about the balance of candidates,
and we'll get the Harry eyeball from Joe for one
far too over time. It is seven to forty six
already more with the talk station seven fifty fifty five
KERCD talk station Americans for prospec always providing tools for
you and I to engage in a little baby step

(01:35:04):
towards a better future here in Ohio, or you don't
get actively involved. Anything in between is great from Donovan
and Hill's perspective, at my perspective. So we're walking through
some of the already endorsed candidates for coming up in
November of next year. We've done District thirty one and
thirty five. How about Jesse Styles for House District fifty seven.
I am busily trying to find fifty seven on my
district map. I can't find it. I understand it's outside

(01:35:26):
of Columbus or around Columbus. Am I right on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Don't go a few hours northeast up to Lake County.
But you're you're headed in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
It's up there north somewhere.

Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
You go, Yeah, it's well. Jesse's great. He a business
owner Lake and Lake County father, and you know, and
talking with him, He's built a business, He's created jobs,
he's paid taxes and felt the burdens of red tape
and regulations and so from education, opportunity for or families

(01:36:00):
again as a father to make sure we get Ohio
as zero percent income tax to taking a hard look
at the red tape and regulations. He's dialed in on
the things that we believe are going to help move
Ohio forward and has the real world experience. So again,
when you go into those legislative committees, you're not just

(01:36:21):
trying to figure out from the lobbyists what's truth and
not truth. You actually have lived it and can pass
laws and vote on things and argue in favor of
policies they're going to actually unleash opportunity and abundance for
Ohioans across the state.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
All Right, I regularly describe Columbus as dysfunctional. We have
State Senator Andrew Brenner running for Ohio House District sixty one.
I guess he has a record which proves him to
be worthy of AFP's endorsement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Yeah, Senator Brenner, currently Senator Brenner, hopefully future state Representative
Andy Brenner with our support. Andy is one of those
folks who has been tireless in the trenches for education, opportunity,
school choice. If there is a number one enemy of
the public teachers' unions, it's Andy Brenner. We're proud to
stand alongside him with that distinction because he's focused on

(01:37:11):
opportunity outcome. I've been in his office many times talking
about school choice and education, and he consistently points to
the amount of money we spend, yet how bad are
results we get in our public education system. So supports
empowering families first and foremost, and I think should he
be elected to the state legislature, he's going to continue
to work to reform the system in bold, meaningful ways.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
All Right, how about Patty Rocky House District eighty one.
Where's that one to start with?

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Yeah, that's out in northwest Ohio, replacing current Representative Jim
Hoops who's term limited out. Patty is a long time
fixture in northwest Ohio, a local elected official. She has
seen the need for local government reform work in northwest
Ohio in that capacity, So when we look at modernizing

(01:38:04):
Ohio government reforming, you know, our state has the sixth
most political subdivisions. I think someone like Patty is going
to be able to come to Columbus and help drive
the conversation on what it's going to take to streamline
this massive amount of government we have at the local level,
ultimately resulting in lower property taxes and a better return

(01:38:26):
on the taxpayer dollars we all send not to Columbus,
but just down the street to our County treasurer County
Auditor's office.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Sounds like a fairly consistent lineup so far, Donovan. We're
going to end with Wesleyan Davis, represent or who may
represent Ohio House District eighty six.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Yeah, we supported her last year last cycle in the
primary election, came up short, but we're proud to stand
beside her. Again. You know, she's worked with us, another
one of those folks who's been an activist and a
volunteer with us. She's gone to the state House testified
in support of school choice and education opportunity and when
we you know, we remain focused on that issue as

(01:39:03):
a top tier priority for us. Wesleyan's somebody we're proud
to endorse once again and we'll look forward to being
successful in May in her race, ultimately getting her to
Columbus so we can we can make sure all child,
every child, every family has the education opportunity that they're
they deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Fantastic, and she's just she represents the area surrounding Marysville,
which is at north west of Columbus. So, now, Donovan,
the importance to my local listening audience that we mentioned
these various candidatesrom around the state just to sort of
show what you're doing by way of vetting, is there
some way we can get involved in these seemingly very

(01:39:41):
local issues. What's what's the call to action today? Donovan
and Neil Americans for Prosperity.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Call to action is good. At Buckeye blueprint dot com,
we have full profiles of each of these candidates, that
we've endorsed that you could check out learn more. If
you want to get involved, there's a way to take
action there. We'd love to have you join us. It's
going to take a lot of doors, a lot of calls,
and a lot of volunteer activism to help make this
these races successful. This is only the first trunch though

(01:40:10):
as well, Brian, we're not done yet. We're announcing these
ones now. We'll have more early in twenty twenty six,
including many races in southwest Ohio that we're looking forward to.
There's a ton of opportunity in twenty six from the
state House to the congressional races. AFP AFP Action. Our
team is going to be involved in all of them,

(01:40:31):
and we need your listeners, Brian, to join alongside us.
Give an hour two hours on a Saturday, knock some doors,
remind people to get and vote. Because the headwinds are there,
we've got to push back against the policies and the
ideas that the Democrats progressives in Washington and Columbus are advancing,
the big government Republicans alike. But it takes grassroots action

(01:40:53):
to make that work.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Yes, it does, get involved AFP makes it so easy
to do. Donald and Ela has always thank you for
the tireless efforts on behalf of the Ohio voters and
the economy here in the state of Ohio. We're looking
forward to having some better opportunities November, and I hope
you and I be talking throughout the count of year
twenty twenty six. I know you're this list of endorsed
candidates from AFP is going to grow, and looking forward

(01:41:14):
to having you let my listeners know about who you
have endorsed, because of course that independent endorsement and policies
that you're pushing I think are all very very welcome
within my listening audience. My friend, and merry Christmas do
you and everybody at AFP, you and your family, Donovan,
it's always a pleasure talking with you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Have a merry Christmas, a happy new Year, Brian. I'll
look forward to a great twenty twenty six and sharing
a lot of it with you when you're listeners on
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Looking forward to that already, Donald and Neil, take care
of yourself. Seven fifty the talk station.

Speaker 10 (01:41:42):
I heard Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Six six fifty five KRCD Talk station. Happy Wednesday, Bobiday,
I are Judge Jenna Politano, Chuckie Schuman, the Senate going
after Tucker Carlson for what one of his guests says, well,
but yeah, I know it's crazy.

Speaker 11 (01:42:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
That's why I'm really looking forward to that subject with
Judged Apoloton at the bottom. I hope you can. Well,
you feel free to call. You're welcome to give me
a ring if there's something you want to talk about.
Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, eight
hundred eighty two to three talk or pound five fifty
on AT and T funds. And I mean, I think
about November as that come on the heels of donin
the Americans for Prosperity talking about the November elections. Already,

(01:42:24):
the Republicans are scrambling. They're concerned. Obamacare obviously a problem.
The you know, the subsidies are disappearing. They came up
with no solution the other day, and therefore the price
of Obamacare is going to go up. Oh my god,
people are gonna scream, well, gnash teeth, why are the
prices of Obamacare going to go up? Well, it's because
it's a poorly created system. It you can't force anybody

(01:42:50):
to buy Obamacare. The Supreme Court said that that's a
good thing. They can't make you engage in commerce, and
that allowed people who otherwise would have been forced to
buy Obamacare to not so. The vast majority of people
signing up for Obamacare are eligible for the subsidies, or
people who have pre exist in conditions they go over there.
There's no pre exclusion anymore. That is a massive infusion

(01:43:10):
of claims that have to be paid right away. You
need premium dollars to cover the cost of the claims.
That's where the premium price comes from. It continues to
go up as long as the claims exposure is significant,
and it is, so, what does the government do? A
problem that they created by virtue of Obamacare is then
passed along to the American taxpayers by virtue of these supplements,

(01:43:31):
these tax write offs, you and I are paying for that.
The premium didn't go anywhere. It isn't more affordable. And
that's what really, frankly pisses me off when they're having
discussions about this. Republicans are make in healthcare more expensive. No,
they're not. Healthcare is just expensive. Generally speaking, Obamacare as
a policy is bad because of the way it's designed.

(01:43:54):
And you can't hide the financial reality by just glossing
over it by saying no, no, no, you're not going
to have to pay a premium. Well, that premium is
still being paid and of course going directly to the
to the health insurance companies. So you know, that's not
a product of the Republicans doing It's a product of Obamacare,

(01:44:15):
owned exclusively, lockstock and barrel by the Democrats who enacted it.
So there's that and then the other. So moving away
from that one as a concern for the Republican Party
in November inflation and that just really drives me crazy
that you know, Trump gets the blame for all this inflation,
and I'm not going to give him a pass for
jacking up the national debt multiple trillions of dollars under

(01:44:36):
his first term. But who's who's done that on steroids?
It was the Biden administration near the the Green Deal
and the COVID relief bills that were passing all this
infusion of literally trillions of dollars. The law of economics
applies to applies to the fiat currency as well. The
more of it out there, the less valuable each and
every individual dollar is. It's not built on anything. It's

(01:44:59):
a federal deserve. Note what does that mean? Well, it's
good for all debts, publican pride, but what's it backed
by our reputation anymore. It's not gold, it's not silver,
it's not something concrete that you can exchange it for.
So there's that problem. The running of the printing press.
It d values your currency, meaning you need more dollars
to buy the loaf of bread than you need it

(01:45:20):
before they printed out five to twenty extra trillion dollars
out there. Fine, and you go to like something like coffee,
Oh my god, coffee's gone up sixty percent. People are
actually making it home now. You know, I view that
as a welcome change. I mean I regularly criticize it.
And you know, I'm sorry. If this is you. You
want to go out and have your wonderful and it

(01:45:41):
is tasty cup of Starbucks. It comes at significant expense.
First off, you got to pay a barista who are
now making twenty plus dollars an now because of mandatory
minimum wage laws. Who's behind that? Labor costs?

Speaker 6 (01:45:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Shipping costs have gone up. I wonder why that is
going back? And I know price of gases come down.
But remember the war on fossil fuels begun under primarily
the Obama administration. Right, the price of gas will necessarily increase.
Did it increase because of the laws of supplying demand? No,
We've got an abundant supply out there, as proven by
Donald Trump's all the above energy strategy, as proven by

(01:46:15):
the fact that we're now and that exporter of fossil
fuels from this country. No, it's out there. The policies
stood in the way of our access to it, causing
the price of yes, gasoline to go up. Well, we
got to worry about the climate. Why is the price
of energy more expensive? Ask the folks in Germany about
that one. Chasing the zero carbon emission of dream out

(01:46:37):
there industry is failing. They pay fifty percent more than
us at kilowat hour in Germany. Then here, why, Well,
their policies are held a lot worse than ours. Could
they solve that problem?

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Quit chasing carbon dioxide, Open a nuclear plant, tap into
the resources that are generally around you. That you shut
down because of what climate change a self inflicted wound
and inflationary reality ripple effect on that one. The cost
of shipping anything under that kind of regime is going
to well force you to have to pay more for

(01:47:11):
any good or service to you go out and purchase coffee.
Prices also impacted beyond what you and I control control.
Adverse weather has been a real problem. You got drought,
severe weather hitting major producers like Brazil and Vietnam and
reducing harvest that's been going on for a while and

(01:47:33):
supplying demand less coffee out there. You pay more for it,
and then add in all these other issues that go
along with it which increase the cost of the coffee price.
Oh but what about Trump's tariffs? There aren't any tariffs anymore.
They were lifted in November on Brazil. And how about
Columbian tariffs, no tariff none as of November, no tariff.

(01:47:58):
And then of course vietname coffee. There's no terrif on
that anymore either. There hasn't been for about a month
and a half two months now, So you can take
evil Orange Man out of the equation on that one.
And yes, you're still going to pay more for coffee
merely because well they're not growing as much as they
were before. And sorry, it sucks to be us. You
can't grow coffee here in the United States. But these

(01:48:20):
issues have to be unfolded for people. Otherwise it's just
I went and paid more at Kroger this week than
I did now two years ago, and evil Orange Man's
at fault. No, this has been a building problem over time.
I mentioned California earlier. Is there a state in the
Union that's more expensive than California? And why is it

(01:48:41):
so expensive in California? I mean people went there for
the scenery, I suppose, and there's a finite amount of
land in any given place to build it upon. But
try to build a home in California. Ask the people
whose house is burned down how quickly the permitting process
is going. The slow regulatory burden that just burns through cash,

(01:49:06):
it acts as an impediment. Supply is decreased. Therefore the
price goes up. Gallon of gas on California fit four
to fifty, coming up with five dollars a gallon. It's
come down for everybody else. Why might that be? Yes,
all their environmental regulations, the fact that they close down refineries,
self inflicted wounds. These are not inventions of the conservative

(01:49:28):
side of the ledger. The deregulate folks like that. I appreciate.
I don't care what label they hang on themselves. And
now are some Republicans are as guilty of this as
others as Democrats? With ninety nine percent of the time,
you're a safe bet saying who did this to us? Democrats?

(01:49:49):
We do it to ourselves, and then we look around
for a demon in the room to blame for the
policies that were designed to do just this, notably like
the the green policies, and those wouldn't even be a
thing if it weren't for you paying for it. Was
anybody out building windmills and solar panels before the credit

(01:50:11):
started rolling in, before the government started incentivizing mass a
huge major corporations, those evil billionaires to engage in this
carbon capture nonsense, businesses growing out a whole cloth because
one minute and time ago, we didn't have carbon capture.
Next minute you label carbon dioxide plant food a danger
to the world, and you have all these carbon capture

(01:50:32):
enterprises and businesses popping up thanks to your taxpayer dollar
and the federal governments providing tax credits for them to
engage in economic activity that you and I weren't asking for.
How well BV thing work out? For the automobile manufacturers
for it had to write off nineteen billion dollars because
of evs. They were losing fifty thousand dollars even in

(01:50:56):
spite of a seventy five hundred dollars tax credit that
you could get for buying one major loss. The European
Unions now turning its back on their former cafe standards.
They were going to eradicate the internal combustion engine by
what twenty thirty or something at no more. We're not
doing that. Why because it's killed German manufacturing and Italian
manufacturing as well. They make cars there. It's not difficult

(01:51:20):
to find the culprit in this inflationary reality we're dealing with.
And how this gives the Democrats traction is beyond me.
Maybe you have a different theory or thought about it.
Love to hear from you. Got a little time before
judge Judge Entitopolotonic comes on at the bottom of the
hour of five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five hundred,
eight hundred eighty two to three talk pound five fifty

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We're gonna be a Man Tree Brewery and Blue Ash
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(01:52:03):
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Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty eight hundred and
eight two three talk. Let's see what Dennis has got
this morning. Dennis, thanks for calling in. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:52:34):
Yeah, my pleasure.

Speaker 13 (01:52:36):
Say we had Do you remember the reign of quainton
Nell Server here in Cincinnati with the preferred Developer program.
This is where they would take confiscate parking garages and
everything that kept the industry and the business is going
in downtown and then passing them on over to preferred developers.

(01:52:58):
For example, Fountain Square West, we're going to get a
thirteen or fifteen story building, and we end up back
with a four story building and out one hundred and
some million dollars That was applied to the West Coast
pretty much universally, to where nobody really owns their property
or can develop their property, or even use the property

(01:53:18):
with the facility is already in place. That kind of
corruption has altered everything to where the public doesn't have
much of us.

Speaker 14 (01:53:29):
Say, but anybody that's got a good bride by one
way or another, whether it's wrapped in aluminum foil and
stuck in some congressman's refrigerator or freezer or other means
of indirect payments completely corrupted this system in the United.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
States, Well yeah, I mean, my favorite is going back
to the bomb administration with the Green New Deal stuff,
when they hand the selected energy companies that were supposed
to provide these great technologies to US billions and millions
and billions of dollars flowing out to hand as elected
companies that ended up in many cases failing right. They

(01:54:05):
didn't work, and yet they got the money. How is
it that they're you know, they got to prove for
technology and they got millions and millions of dollars of
tax payer money. It failed miserably. This is what happens,
you know, go locally to connected communities, dentnis. That dictates
the terms of the type of architecture you can build
and the size of the scope of the houses that
you can build in the city. Say, it's a change

(01:54:26):
in zoning laws, effectively, but what does it do? They
want denser urban housing, They want a whole lot of
people to be concentrated in small environment. You can't have
that when you have free land ownership and the free
right to build whatever you damn well please in terms
of your residence. This extends out over all areas of
government dentists, and there it is right in front of
you for all to see. The problem is that people

(01:54:47):
apparently just forget about all that when they go into
the booth like I hate evil orange man, I'm going
to vote for more of what brought me to this
parallels position. I don't is it stupidity out there? I
don't think I think the average human being can handle

(01:55:08):
and understand these concepts. It's just that nobody bothers explaining
them to them, or they're just not willing to take
the time to look behind the veneer of something as
simple as a meme or evil orange man. But unless
you're wed to this whole woke leftist communism philosophy and

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you really truly believe that that works, that it just
hasn't been done right yet, you're a useful idiot. And
the power brokers of the world that we always talk about,
you know, now it seems that the major power workers,
these evil billionaires, have all become kind of left wing democrats,
haven't they. Why Because they're the ones that get the

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large s that we're just talking about. They're the ones
that get hands selected by the administration. And look what
happens after years of doing that and get Donald Trump
back in office, and oh look, all the evil billionaires,
notably the tech evil billionaires, all show up on Trump's door,
shaking his hand, wishing him luck, and then changing their
minds because well, a solar panel ain't gonna power my

(01:56:14):
artificial intelligence facility, nor will a windmill. I need a
small nuclear reactor, something that the left hated is a
concept in spite of the fact that it's carbon neutral,
and I know I say it all the time, but
now they want them. Why because it's going to help them.
We need to expedite the licensing process for SMRs because well,
we need artificial intelligence. We the evil billionaires of the

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world that used to be hated by the left because
they tended to be Republicans who used to be pro business. Well,
whoever's in office, that's who's going to get the favor
from all the wealthy money class out there. We are
just sheeple that are well going to follow the path
of whatever the administration goes down. Thankfully, this current administration
is an all the above strategy with regard to energy,

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which will be down inflation because it won't be as
expensive to power fill in the blank. Eight twenty five.
Right now, let's get judge, added Apolaitano on the phone.
He's got a great article this night. He's coming out tonight,
Tucker Carlson and the freedom of speech. We'll get to
judge the Politano next. I hope you can stick around
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backs above Montana. They cleared the wreck he spound two
seventy five above the Reagan Highway. This is the last
segment for twenty twenty five, So just wanted to take
a moment to wish the judge a very merry Christmas
and happy new Year.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
We wish you the best in twenty five twenty six.
Chuck Ingram fifty five KRC the Talk station. A kind
sentiment there from Chuck Ingram to Judge Nita Polton. Of
course every Wednesday, here at this hour and this time
of hour we talk with Judge Na Polatan. I love
having him on the program. Judge and a Polatona, welcome
back and yes from my listening audience in.

Speaker 9 (01:58:19):
Meeting Brian, good morning, Joe, Chuck. Thank you very much,
you know for all of our busting his chops. That
was a very sincere, moving and lovely comment, and I'm
deeply grateful, and I can't wait for the day when
I can actually meet him and see what he looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
I know maybe twenty six will be the year we
can pull that off. Judge and Polatona, you know, it's
a welcome ight, it's a welcome idea. You bring it
up all the time. I, of course, you can't wait
for the day that happens. And I've talked to Chuck
Ingram a bunch of times. He always gets really excited
about the concept. So maybe this will be the year.
I got to tell you, you know, I always love
your column comes out tonight Midnight Tucker Carlson and the

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Freedom of Speech. I always love it. You do make
great points. You always back it with constitutional background, you
know what the framers intended. This one I was particularly
taken with because I almost and that this is an overstatement,
but I almost feel embarrassed that Chuck Schumer is even
advancing this as a concept because of how batcrap insane

(01:59:15):
it is and how much it flies in the face
of the First Amendment. Let's talk about this. What the
hell is going on?

Speaker 9 (01:59:21):
So Senator Schumer, who is the leader of the Democrats
in the United States Senate, introduced a resolution in behalf
of himself and forty Democratic senators, which is nearly all
of them, it's forty seven of them, to condemn Tucker
Carlson for something he did not say on his show.

(01:59:43):
You got that right. He had this character who offends
a lot of people and says a lot of horrible things,
but he's, you know, the type of person we put
on these shows because people want to hear him. Nick
Flint is who said some things that Schumber and company
didn't like, And so they've actually offered a resolution which

(02:00:04):
will be a sense of the Senate condemning Tucker Carlson
for failure quote to push back close quote. That's actually
the phrase from the resolution against this guy, Nick Fuent is. Now,
this is a sense of the Senate. It doesn't go
to the House. It's not legislation, it doesn't have the

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force of law, but it's the time of it's the
type of unconstitutional nonsense, of betrayal of basic First Amendment
principles that the Congress will occasionally get involved in if
there's speech out there or silence out there that they
hate or fear. It's simply reprehensible they're doing it. In fact,

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when my producer said to me, hey, Judge, you won't
believe what Chuck Schumer, whose office is right across the
street from where I am now, his New York City office,
and sometimes I see him in the streets and we chat.
You won't believe what Chuck Schumer's up to. Next, I
didn't believe the producer, and I made him get me
a copy of this, and he gave it to me,
and I read it, and I was furious, and I
banged out that column.

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
I said, well, first off, let me observe. I guess
they don't have anything to do before they go on
Christmas break that they have time to put forward a
sense of the Senate motion, which has no impact, no force,
and effective law. It's a pointless gesture and it's a
bunch of wheel spinning for the purpose of I guess
grand standing politically. But I feel embarrassed for him for

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doing this for the reasons that you point out in
the article. This is a chilling effect on speech. It's
laughable as a concept. But this is not their role.
Their role is to enforce the Constitution and protect and
defend it. That Tucker Carlson has a nut job. Maybe
on the program that's his right. Maybe his ratings will
drop off because he got the wrong people on. That's
for us to decide, much like we can evaluate the

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speech that that guy or anybody else's uttering.

Speaker 9 (02:01:59):
You used a fascinating constitutional phrase and I want to
dwell on it for.

Speaker 10 (02:02:03):
Just a moment.

Speaker 9 (02:02:04):
Chilling Chilling is government behavior which gives speakers pause or
second thoughts or fear before they articulate what their thoughts are,
for fear that some something in the government will happen
to them. It is profoundly unconstitutional for the government to

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behave to engage in behavior that's chilling. The very famous
case where Jagor Hoover sent to FBI agents within those days,
cameras where big old fashioned things with flashbulbs if you
remember those, to put them in the face of war
protesters and snap pictures. That's chilling, the government literally figuratively

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and literally in your face, giving you pause or second
thoughts before you express a political opinion, in this case
on the Vietnam War. Fast forward to today, and chilling
is a little bit more sophisticated. But just as terrifying.

Speaker 7 (02:03:06):
Now.

Speaker 9 (02:03:07):
I know Tucker Carlson, he's not going to be chilled
by this at all, But other people lacking his backbone
and his megaphone might be chilled by a Congress that
picks and chooses which speech it likes and which speech
it hates, and can the speech it hates. The First

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Amendment prohibits, absolutely prohibits the government from evaluating the content
of political speech and acting upon that evaluation.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Well and seeing to me, there's a lot of that
going on during the COVID time when we had FBI
agents establishing offices in social media platforms and telling you
and I what we can and cannot say and edit
it and excising certain comments. They can't do that either.

Speaker 9 (02:03:54):
Correct, correct, So this is just reprehensible. The Democrats are
doing this, I think, and you just alluded to this, Brian.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
It's all political.

Speaker 9 (02:04:04):
Schumer wants to see if he can force the Republicans
to cast a vote which he will then characterize as
pro Nick Flint, as that's the young man that Tucker
put on the show, and he can then paint the
Republicans in the Senate with the excesses and absurdities and

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even horribles that Flintes has articulated. So Tucker runs, as
you say, a private company. It is the second most
watched podcast in the United States of America. He can
put whoever the hell he wants on his show, and
he can say or not say, whatever the hell he

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wants on his show. The Congress be damned.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
All right, I have to pivot. I want to get
your thoughts on this because it seems like the stars
are aligning, but not in a very good way.

Speaker 9 (02:04:57):
And I hope you're not going to ask me about
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
No, no, no, no, I don't want to go that gloom
and doom. We're trying to have a positive spin on
the Morning show here, so less gloom and doomy than
that is. Bombs dropping on Venezuela. So we have the
the designation of narco terrorism, and that provided a vehicle
for Donald Trump to drop bombs on boats. We've talked
about that. Look, narco terrorists, they got drugs, blow them up,
they're narco terraces. Then you have fentanyl, ventyl has been

(02:05:23):
declared a weapon of mass destruction. And then just yesterday
I believe it was Venezuela has been the regime of
Venezuela has been designated a foreign terrorist organization, So are
we going to get the whole that's a foreign terrorist organization.
They have WMDs so we can drop bombs on them.
Is that the next phase here, Judge Ennapolto Probably.

Speaker 9 (02:05:44):
And it's all about oil. It's all about oil. Donald
Trump's own Drug Enforcement Administration. Go to their website. Venezuela
is not an exporter of cocaine or fence and all.
There was a time it was an export of cocaine,
hasn't done it in years. This is all a oil,

(02:06:05):
a facade and quick draw repeat, just wants to kill people.
He doesn't give the president any resistance whatsoever. Referred to
my former colleague, and I guess after what I've been
saying form a friend of Pete Eggs Seth.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
So the oil and we've done any a blocking of
Venezuelan oil tankers, so it's beyond just the one we captured.
It's all Venezuelan oil tankers. Arguing that his he illegally
confiscated the oil companies because they did go full on
socialism with his election, which means, yeah, Chevron, sorry sucks
to be you. You invested in the country new regime. They
took your property from you. This happens all the time

(02:06:40):
with regime changes like that, but it's more about regime
change with Maduro because if you cut off the practically
the loan source of income he has oil sales, then
his regime is going to collapse.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
Well, this is going to have an effect that Donald
Trump may not want because his biggest customer is in Beijing.
I don't think they're just going to sit back idly
while these ships are not allowed to go through the
Panama Canal. I just don't think so. I don't know

(02:07:14):
what's going to happen next. Yesterday the United States Senate
tell me if you think World War III is coming, Brian.
Yesterday the United States Senate voted an absurd They didn't
vote on it. They debated an absurd resolution offered by
Senator Lindsey Graham to declare the Russian government state sponsors
of terrorism.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
These are the.

Speaker 9 (02:07:35):
People we're trying to negotiate with. As Senator Ranpaul said,
we have sixteen thousand literally sanctions on the Russian government,
the Russian people, Russian society is sixteen thousand and one
going to make a difference. Why are we doing this?
What are we going to accomplish by it? At the
same time, Trump said he may seize some Russian tankers.

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Good luck, their navy is bigger than ours.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Lots of complicating factors in that one. We now brought
the Russians and the Chinese into the situation off the
coast of Venezuela. Well, at least it's better than talking
about Joe Burrow from a happy sad standpoint. Judge Innapolitano,
I think he's got one foot out the door. Parenthetically,
Judging Freedom is Judge of Polatana's podcast. I'll encourage my

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listeners to find it wherever they get their podcasts. How
about today, your honor.

Speaker 9 (02:08:28):
I have the second most listened to and arguably best
known media figure in the Western world on at eleven
o'clock this morning, Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 2 (02:08:40):
Timing is everything. Yes, it is, Brian, A lot of
hits on that one thanks to Chucky Shubert. You're going
to enjoy that one, I'm sure, yes, Judge.

Speaker 9 (02:08:51):
A one hour edition of Judging Freedom today at eleven
and then of course it'll be posted for anybody who
would downloaded whenever they.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
Wish, and I'm sure they Well, I presume that you
and I will not be talking next Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (02:09:05):
I think you're right. I think we'll be talking next
on January seventh, which seems a long way from now,
but will probably come like that.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
Yeah, sadly there during my Christmas break, the days fly
by like minutes. It's just like I love it but
I hate it at the same time. But I am already.

Speaker 9 (02:09:20):
Merry Christmas to you and your family and the happy
news you're into. The wonderful people with whom you work,
Joe Strecker and Chuck Ingram, and the people behind the
scenes that help this great show get out there, whom
I have yet to have the pleasure of meeting.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
Thank you very much, Judge, Anna, Paula Tano, God bless you, sir.
Merry Christmas, and if you're going anywhere, safe travels to
you and yours.

Speaker 9 (02:09:40):
Thank you back at you brand all the best.

Speaker 2 (02:09:42):
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