55KRC Wednesday Show - Brad Wenstrup, Breitbart, Judge Napolitano

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Five oh five.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Fifty five k r C the top station, Happy Wednesday, no.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Ideals, Yeah, you know what, neither do I excuse me,
get my throat going this morning. Apologize brid Thomas, welcoming
and thanking everybody. Listen to the fifty five KRCY warnship,
appreciate you, tune and then good day to listen. Congressman

(00:49):
Brad Winsor, former Congressman, retired Congressman Brad Winsor will be
in studio. We'll talk about his new role with the
Trump administration. Not even familiar with that one. I talked
to god orson one so fairly regularly. Foreign policy, COVID
scam among the topics to go over with Brad in studio,
which I thoroughly appreciate him making the trip into the studio.

(01:10):
It's so much easier to have a conversation when you're
staring at somebody face to face inside scoop of bright
part news delayed by a day, but better late than ever.
Today we get the London Bureau chief all over landing
to talk about the German election, Conservatives one and what
that might mean for the future. They're going to continue
to pursue green energy policies. That are driving the country's
economy into the toilet. Get his reaction to the Trump

(01:34):
efforts to negotiate some sort of economic relationship with Russia,
and I talked about that with Daniel Davis Chester that
he died with Daniel Davis. He suggests that I should
be Deputy Secretary of State considering my opinions and thoughts
on the relationship between the United States and Russian Why
is it so tense and stressed? I don't know. Just
so many people that are just have the same mindset

(01:56):
we have with the Soviet Union. They're not the Soviet Communists.
I know that it's notcracy. I know Putin's a bad guy,
but you know this, this whole Trump intervention thing may
provide an avenue, a vehicle for perhaps less tension between
the European Union, the United States, and Russia. Might provide

(02:16):
a vehicle to tear the Russians further away from the
from the Chinese Communist Party because we were pushing them together.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That was That's what was really.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Frightening to me over the past I don't know, five six,
seven years, the alignment between two nations that didn't ever
really get along, and they started you know, sort of
playing nice together, which to me represented a greater greater
global threat than some other threats that we face. But
we'll talk about that with London Beerchief Oliver Lane at

(02:45):
eight o five. And of course it's Wednesday, so we
hear from Judge Anonapaul tanot A thirty Trump and Government
by Experts. The caption or the topic of the column
comes out tonight. I'm thankful enough to get an early
copy of that, as I always do, so that'll be
at eight thirty. The meantime, feel free to call. Maybe
it's a particular topic you want to talk about. I'd

(03:06):
like to hear from you, because I'm just surrounded by
all of this. I mean, mixed bag, a polpoerrie of craziness.
All worthy of talking about is a question of priority.
What's the most important topic? And I am struggling to
figure out what the most important topic is to raise
at the outset of the program. I'll figure something out

(03:26):
here momentarily. Kevin Gordon's going to be covering for me tomorrow.
Originally supposed to get glaucoma. I had glaucoma surgery last week.
They blast a bunch of laser holes in your eyes.
I have our family history at glaucoma. It sucks been
using drops for a long time. I know this is
boring you, but I was supposed to have the second

(03:47):
eyeball done tomorrow. But because the first eyeball is still
kind of blurry, if get the second eyeball done, I
would not be able to read a single thing, ergo
not being able to do the morning show. So I
delayed it. But since I had the day off on
the calendar, I'm going to go ahead and take that
day and my mom and I are going to go
out to watch. There you have it, so enjoy Kevin Gordon. Kevin,

(04:09):
if you're out there, I certainly appreciate you covering for
me when I am taking a day of vacation. So
at least they'll get to sleep in five one three,
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if they Ramaswamy Yesterday and the Thinky five Cassee Morning

(04:32):
Show running for governor. Really brilliant guy. Just love that guy.
I think he'd be an outstanding governor for the state
of Ohio. I know Yost is running as well. Don't
have anything against the man, but I think DVI represents
I don't know more. I don't want to say Elon
Musk type approach to government. But he is a successful businessman.
He knows how to write a ship. He's got some
great ideas, most notably on education. I love his ideas

(04:56):
on education. Of course I mentioned Daniel Davis deep dive
you can talk of. Listen to that conversation about Ukraine
and Russia the big picture with Jack Atherton. What a
brilliant man he is in a wonderful historic analysis. Leading
to the overall subject matter is Trump colluding with Putin?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
And there you have it.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Let us see here, why not start with Tulsi Gabbart.
Almost like a stack of stupid story. We figure out
what the NSA employees are doing in their spare time
and not even their spare time on the job, and
it's pretty disgusting. It all comes under the heading of
DEI and thank god, Donald Trump's trying to ferret and
root out all the DEI programs. They seem to be

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mechanisms for just funneling cash, creating new programs and departments
that really literally do nothing. So Trump's Director of National
Intelligence DNI's Tulsi Gabbert, but not a directive yesterday terminate
the employment of and revoke these security clearances. Underscore security clearances.

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These people have security clearances. People are all screaming and
moaning and complaining about Elon Musk I, my guy unelected
officials got access to all these days. Yeah, he's got
a security clearance too. But the National Security Agency is
the one that's farting through all your effects and papers
effectively or electronically. They're the ones that have accessed to

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all this private information and probably some pretty scary access too.
And that's what they're supposed to be doing at their job,
whether you like it or not, and I certainly don't,
but that's their job. But instead of doing their job,
they're on Interlink, the messaging platform within the National Security Agency,

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and I can't read some of the stuff that's posted
on there. It's disgusting. They're talking about all kinds of
dev and sexual behavior. And I know the word devian
is a subjective thing. Well, I like to do that
kind of stuff. Fine, I don't care. I'm a libertarian.
You can do whatever you want in your free time,
but don't use government time to talk in specific, glorious,
gory detail about what specific sexual perversions you're involved with,

(07:04):
which is exactly what they were doing.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
She said.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
There are over one hundred people from across an intelligence
community that contribute to and participate in what is really
just an egregious violation of trust what to speak of
like basic rules and standards around professionalism. She was saying
yesterday speaking of Jesse Waters federal employees and investigation for
allegedly misusing, allegedly misusing. When you read what they were writing,

(07:30):
I would call it a misuse, not qualifying it as
an alleged misuse. It's an internal agency messaging board to
talk about their sexual fantasies. Messaging messaging boards created under
the guise of yes diversity equity inclusion. Chatlogs from the
NSA's Interlink messaging platform revealed employees from various intelligence agencies

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discussing their experiences with gender reassignment surgery, artificial genitalia hormone therapy,
polyamory pronoun usage, and again in specific, glorious and detail.
And there was one person talked about having their sphincter tasered. Yeah, Joe,

(08:17):
is there a flag for that?

Speaker 4 (08:19):
One?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Gabbage said, we got to take a step back because
this is just barely scratching the surface when you see
what these people were saying. They were brazen and using
an NSA platform intended for professional use to conduct this
kind of really really horrific behavior her words, not mine.
And they were brazen and doing this because when was

(08:43):
the last time anyone was really held accountable? Certainly not
over the last four years, Certainly not over the last ten,
maybe twenty years. And we look at some of the
biggest violations of the American people's trust in the intelligence community.
And that's really an important point to note because once
this comes out, you scratch your set your head and say,
these folks are part of the intelligence community, privy to

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the most sensitive national security issues. And of course, since
they hoover up literally every text message and every communication
that you have, Hmm, do you think it's a really
good idea for this type of these type of the
folks to have access to all this information? I certainly

(09:25):
don't These are the best and brightest. These are the
ones that we've handed the nation's secrets do, Gavard went
on x These disgusting chat groups were immediately shut down
when the President issued is executive ordered ending the DEI insanity.
To Bud, administration was obsessed with our intelligence community must

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be focused on our core mission ensuring the safety, security,
and freedom of the American people. Do this on your
own time, don't do it on the taxpayer dollars, which
was really what they were doing. Chat logs and questions
stem from DEI focus groups hosted on the NSA's interlink
messenger titled LGBTQA and I C pride TWG. Don't know

(10:13):
what that means? Intelligence Community pride, Yes, I get that, bet,
I don't know what TWG is, and I'm not quite
sure I even want to know.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
According to the Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Institute's Christopher Ufo, Senior Fellow, he said the sources that
approached him indicated these sexually explicit chats were given legitimacy
to the NSA's DEI efforts, which the agency has described
as not only mission critical, but mission imperative. That's the

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nssay's mission imperative. DEI efforts and creating chat groups to
discuss this behavior. Messages part of the EI focused employee
research group groups that had been hijacked by activists, which

(11:09):
is how it's described who quote spent all day close
quote holding meetings with titles such as Privilege, ALI Awareness, Pride,
and transgender Community Inclusion, according to a source of lease
that leaked the chat logs to the Manhattan Institute. Thank

(11:31):
god for whistleblowers, right. So they create a DEI department
within the NSSA, and then they create, well meetings, We're
going to have a we're having a meeting. I know,
everybody works at a corporation. You've got those meetings that
you have to attend. My wife hasn't met her company
as well. Now I got a conference call. It's a

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two hour conference call. It's our meeting on and they
have DEI meetings and they've got all kinds of you know,
you know, how do you know the story? But you
gotta show up. So we're going to have a meeting
Transgender community inclusion meeting.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
So what do they do?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
They move away from their core mission at the NSA,
which Tulsa Gabbard outlined and underscored in her ex post
ensuring the safety, security, and freedom of the American people,
and they allocate time, dedication, and resources and precious hours
that should be dedicated to that mission. So you can

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sit down and have exchanges about transgender community inclusion. As
you can tell, this kind of thing angers me quite
a bit. And there you go, your taxpayer dollars at work.

(12:49):
Five eighteen fifty five kr CIT talk station, and you
know it's just this sliver of waste, just a sliver. Meanwhile,
how's pasted the GOP budget plan, which you know, I

(13:10):
understand where Congressman mass He's coming from and being the
only Republican to vote no on it. It doesn't cut enough,
it doesn't cut enough, and it will increase budget deficits.
I thought we were trying to go in the opposite direction.

(13:32):
Stick around. We got more to talk about coming up.
I hope you can stay here and maybe you can
call in. You know, we got the bottom of our
neew is stacking stupid and uh well again your phone.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Calls are right back.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Sure you could wait until spring for spring C.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Five twenty one fifty five k r CUD talk station,
Honey pot h According to whistleblower's former FBI director James Coming.
We all know he was after Trump, trying to figure

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out anything he could find, and if I couldn't find something,
making stuff up to go after Donald Trump. We find
out there was an off the books investigation, and that
in and of itself is suspicious. Something that only he
had access to. Launched in twenty fifteen by comy, revealed
by an agency whistleblower in a protected disclosure to the

(14:30):
House Judiciary Committee, happened last year. Washington Times reported on
it in October. I guess some insight, isn't it. Honey
pot refers to an undercover operative, usually a woman, who
feigns a sexual or romantic interest, in order to obtain
information from any given target. In this particular case, it
was the Trump had a Trump campaign In Trump administration.

(14:51):
Two whistleblowers said that there were our two whistleblower said
there were two female FBI undercover employees who infiltrated Trump's
twenty sixteen campaign and what are described at high levels
and told to act as honey pots while traveling with
Trump and his campaign staff. This is sleeping with someone

(15:13):
in order to get pillow talk information or at least
be in a position to be around folks working on
the Trump campaign so they could gather up information specifically
directed by FBI Director James Comy. Did they have any
probable cause? Nope, Nothing. Times learned that the Bureau now
led by Cash Betel, thankfully, and we might ferret out

(15:35):
some of this kind of stuff and learn the true
information behind all this, along with Deputy Director Dan Bongina
looking for these once undercover employees that were operating under
mister Combe's direction. FBI, of course, declined comment now. According
to the disclosure, Washington Times reviewed it investigation differed from
Crossfire Hurricane, the one that looked into never proving allegations

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that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia. Whistle Blower
said the off the book's criminal investigation targeted Trump and
his staff. The FBI is responsible for crime. There's no
evidence of a crime, but they launched an investigation anyway
in order to try to find a crime.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
That is not the FBI's role.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Whistleblower agent personally knew that Comee ordered an FBI investigation
into Trump, that Comy personally directed it. According to the disclosure,
investigation did not appear to target a specific crime, but
was more of what the agents would describe as a
phishing expedition looking to find anything they could that might
be described as incriminating against mister Trump. Whistle blower said

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the undercover operation was obscured from Justice Department Inspector General
Michael Horowitz, who investigate him his conduct in the bureau's
pro but the Trump campaign, so no records of this.
Cord to the whistleblower disclosure quote, this case had no
predicated foundation, so Comy personally directed the investigation without creating

(17:08):
an official case file in Sentinel that's the name of
the database, I guess, or any other FBI system. The
FBI has multiple methods of protecting highly sensitive investigation, so
Komy did not have a legitimate reason not to officially
create an official investigation file or have a file number.
Of course, this indicates bias against Trump, the FBI's bias

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against Trump, or at least Comy's bias against Trump. Nothing
was turned over to Trump or his criminal defense counsel
when he was being well criminally investigated, and of course
prosecutors are required to turn over information. It could be
exculpatory investigation eventually closed because a major newspaper obtained a

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photograph of one of the undercovers and was about to
publish it, but the FBI Press office told that outlet
that the photograph was an FBI informant see not employee,
but informant, when in fact it was an FBI employee
who would be killed if the photograph was publicly released.
In fact, the photograph was of the FBI undercover employee.

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Whistle blower employee noted that the in the disclosure that
one of the undercovers agreed to be transferred to the
CIA so she would not be available as a potential witness.
See I learned something today. If you work at the CIA,
you can't be a witness. How about that? Where'd that
law come from? Apparently the other undercover employee, honey pot lady,

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rewarded for her activities through a promotion in the bureau,
is now described as a high level FBI executive in
a major field office. Well, maybe we'll be able to
track her down and talk to her about this. Whistleblower
employee observed one or more employees in the FBI being
directed to never discuss this operation with anyone ever again,

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including people that were in in the infiltration operation. I'm
not sure trust can never be restored. I really don't know.
Cash Betel's got a big, big job in front of him.
Five twenty six fifty five Care see de talk station

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local stories coming up or call me.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'll be right back. Shy at five point thirty.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
On a Wednesday, and a happy one two five, one.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Fifty five hundred eight and eighty three talks.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Joe Strecker in the We Told You So Local News.
I'd like your note there, Joe Todd, Zendser and Adam Taylor,
I think provided this advanced warning about this problem. The
Cincinnati City Cincinnati is now facing the Cincinnati Southern Railway Trust.
Remember when we sold the railway for one point six

(19:56):
billion dollars. Well, they may be facing a major capital
gains tax bill from the Commonwealth of Kentucky on the
one point six billion dollars received when voters approved the
sale of the formerly owned by the City of Cincinnati
railroad back and it's been since twenty that happened in
twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Man Time Flies.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Trust apparently is going to have to file a tax
return with Kentucky in April, which could trigger a four
percent capital gains tax, although the board that manages the
trust doesn't know what its potential exposure could be in
terms of dollar amount. A lot of speculation around that one.
So the railway stretches through Ohio, Kentucky and part of Tennessee,
Kentucky tax could only apply to the portion located in

(20:37):
the commonwealth before the sale. The Cincinni Southern Railway Board
did not believe Chris Wederich reporting thank you Chris, from
the Cincinnati Business Carrier, did not believe it would face
any tax exposure from the sale because revenue solely benefits
the City of Cincinnati, which is a government entity. But

(20:58):
that interpretation may have been in error. Joe, do you
think they had any tax lawyers looking at this ahead
of time? Hey, we worried about that capital.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Gains tax thing.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well, they didn't listen to Todd Zenzer didn't listen to them,
Kla they brought this up. But see that both of
those guys brought it up, suggesting that prudent people, regardless
of where the message came from, might want to consult
tax attorneys ahead of time to find out what the
implications might be. The trust is now consulting with attorneys

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and also searching for accountants to help with the issue.
According to Paul muting who now is chair of the board,
he declined to speculate how much money the trust could owe.
Do you think speaking with a business career, the issue
has come to light and we're analyzing the CSR's exposure
to the state of Kentucky. State of Kentucky, the issue

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has come to light. Well, the issue came to light
before the railroad was sold. Trust expects argue it does
not owe any taxes, and if it does have to
tax exposure, it hopes to deduct the expenses paid by
the city to build the railway in the first place.
Not clear whether the money for a potential tax would
come out of the principle or a yearly payment that

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trust plans to make to the city. Ooh, that could
really reduce the payment to the city substantially, I might argue.
Mewtingk said, we don't expect that this will materially affect
the distributions to the city.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
They don't think.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
They don't expect that this will materially affect the distributions
to the city, But then.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Maybe it will.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I'm experiencing just a scoch a Shoden Freud and Joe
just a Scoch. This is a sad story. A four
year old boy was hit and killed by a UPS truck.
Happened Betavia Monday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
A Court of the House.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
State Highway Patrol having kind of corner's office, identified the
child as Daniel Yulenbrock. Happened on autumn View Drive about
four thirty in the afternoon. Troopers say the four year
old was riding his wagon on autumn View Drive and
was hit by the delivery truck shortly before four to
thirty pm. Flown by a medical helicopter to the Cincinnati
Children's Hospital, where he succumbed to his injuries. UPS driver,

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fifty one years old, resident of the city of Cincinnati,
was not hurt. I'm just trying to imagine the scenario
where a giant UPS truck could be hurt hitting a
four year old in a wagon. Priminary investigation determined the
freight liner truck was headed southeast on Autumn View when

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it turned around in the cul de sac and stopped.
Truck began to move and that's when it struck the
boy on the wagon as the wagon entered the road.
Incidents still under investigation by the Patrol's Batavia Post. And
I'll just offer prayers to the family that is so
sick over to my alma mater. Hundreds of UC students, staff,

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and community leaders gathered yesterday morning at the University of
cincinnative protest Ohio Senate Bill one follows the proposal rollback
of di initiatives within the university of decision that many
attendees felt blind sided them de Jacques gross from WCPO
reporting her words, not mine, prompting them to vocalize their

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demands to the university's Board of trustees.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Quote.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
As you can see, the building is surrounded by students.
According to one protester who was interviewed, the students don't
want that. Listen to the people paying to be here,
not the people who write your checks. Well, what about
the voters in the state of Ohio who embraced this
kind of rejection of DEI oh those are just crazy Republicans.

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Joff Okay. Bill already passed the Senate, now under consideration
by the House. If an act at SB one would
eliminate the current DEE related offices, department and activities at universities,
including Universities of Cincinnati also aligns, of course, with President
Trump's executive order on DEI. When speaking about the changes

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to restrooms signs on you you see campus which now
say biological men on some you see President Novelle pinto
that was an arrow error. He acknowledged the Trump executive
voter had expedited the timeline for implementing the changes of
DEI policies. Quote that has thrown our timeline off SB

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one timeline gives us more time, and that's where we
will engage the community.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Thank you, That's exactly what I was thinking. Wherever there's
a protest, you'll find iris Roli, community activist who will
be regularly seen expressing frustration over something. And of course
now she's expressing frustration over the administration of pros. Quote,
you've not talked to community leaders that's been fighting for

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our lives, black students' lives. I thought this was all right.
I'm moving on yet exactly. Joe five thirty six fifty
five Ker City Talk Station. Oh look, we've already started
the stack of stupid early. We'll get to more of
it after the break. By forty almost five forty one

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fifty five Ker City Talk Station, A very happy Wednesday to.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You stack oh stupid.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Remember those Chucky horror movies, Joe, the Chucky doll, Well,
Chucky made it into the stack of stupid.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
This morning.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
We got a surfside Florida where a man was taken
into custody due to his what was described as odd
behavior with a chucky doll. Thirty five year old man
arrested after allegedly waiving the chucky doll at people outside
of Low Market, causing alarm among I don't think we'll
ever find that out, Joe. People responded to calls about

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a man identified as rit Arius, who was reportedly using
the doll to scare folks after being unable to purchase beer.
Body camera footage captured the interaction between officers and Arius.
An officer said, Arius, we have people calling and you
really have no reason to be in the area. He

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was later charged with disorderly conduct. Has a criminal history
including charges of dui aggravated batterly and disorderly intoxication. Asked
the officers, what did I do? Surfside police officers? We
got called that you were chasing people with this doll.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And he was taken into custody.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Hold that dart. Chow Gal that's her name, charged with
battery after she allegedly beat and pinched her husband, guy
named Joshua Sinclair when she learned that the sex toy
she found was for his own personal use. What charge

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with battery for beating, pinching, and slapping her husband of
one year after he told her that the sex toy
she found was for him. Just think, just think traditional
pure romance item marital aid.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
If I may be putting it delicately.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Chow Goal, forty eight, and her husband, Joshua Sinclair, were
driving to the new home in Saratoga, Florida, Florida, when
she asked about the sex toy that she had found
while packing up their belongings, apparently surprised to learn that
it wasn't for her.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I was gonna surprise you, honey.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Cord still yeah, Going back to the start of the show,
Cord to the statement Sinclair fied with police. She grew
furious and began to screen foul language at me and
and to beat and slap and pinch my face repeatedly
for about a.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Half hour, as his tradition called police.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Police reports said the injuries of bruising and scratching were
visible on s Sinclair's right eye, lip, nose, and forehead,
and that goal showed no signs of any injuries. His
statement says they stopped around six point three miles after
they arrived at the new house, at which point he
sat in the back seat. Then my wife's friend Jinghoo
Lee sat in the passenger seat, and Chowgo began driving again.

(29:34):
I don't know why that's included in the article that
it is not clear whether Lee was present during Gal's
initial questioning. She was arrested for domestic battery, released the
following day on her own recognizance. Just yeah, going back
to yesterday, she was probably in front of Judge Silverstein. Joe,
she got she got an O R bond.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
All right, Here's what.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Indiana Judge Monday this week sentenced two men to prison
for beating a man to death because the victims said
he liked a woman's legs.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Do what the hell?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Thirty one year old Vincent mccurtis found guilty of murder
and as a habitual offender, was sentenced. Defender was sentenced
to seventy nine years behind bars. Brandon Jackson twenty four,
convicted of reckless homicide got five years. They killed fifty
six year old Brian Ward in Indianapolis. In May of
twenty three, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department officers responded to report

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of an assault on the in a home on Howard
Street in.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
The city's southwest side.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Cops found the victim, later identified as a Ward, suffering
from injuries consistent with trauma. Victims rushed him to the hospital,
where he was first listed in critical condition. Several people
inside the home at the time of the insignt cooperative
with the police. They pointed a finger at mcurtis and
Jackson corner. The probabill cause arrestaff it David, obtained by
Law on Crime, the reporting agency. The woman told cops
she arrived at the home next door and Ward made

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a comment about liking her legs. When she walked inside,
Ward made another flirty comment about mccurtis took X that
mccurtis took exception to and said no one talked to
his sister like that. Ord said he would no longer
speak to the woman in the matter. In that matter,
I won't do it again. Victim walked to his truck

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to leave but mccurtis and Jackson chased him down. The
woman heard mccurtis screaming, tie him up and get him inside,
and I'm going to kill him. Macurtis came back to
the front of the house where the woman was and
asked her if killing him was what she wanted. She
answered in the negative and said that they should just
let him, just leave him alone. Mccurtis told the woman

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the cops wrote, no, this is what I do, this
is who I am. I'm going to take care of it.
I'm going to kill him for you. Curtis then said
he was going to drown Ward in a bathtub. After
leaving for a short while and the victim's truck, Macurtis
came home and said he had wanted Ward alive so
he could finish him off. This point, the woman went

(32:11):
to her home. Curtis came knocking on a door shortly
there after and said, come see what I did for you.
He said he was stripping the victim naked and bringing
him outside to show everyone what he did. That's when
the woman called police and left her home to wait
for the police to show up. Jeezusase five forty seven.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
Perios, the biggest douche of the universe.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
There's a compliment, galxies.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
There's no bigger douche than you.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
You've reached the top, the pinnacle of doue edom.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
Good going, Doo, your dreams have come true.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Five forty seven.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
If the five care see the talk stations stick around
more stupid to talk about. We'll try to get a
little bit more serious after the top of the hour,
news culling the corruption. It is five to fifty two
to fifty five carrasit de talk station. I was just
really tickled to death. I got a guy that was

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listening to my interview with the vake Ramaswam Essay from Iowa,
and he complimented me on the interview, was happy to
know that he was on. He's going to Japan in
a couple of weeks, he said. I was thinking it
may be the show I listened to as I fall asleep.
How cool would it be to have somebody from Japan
listen to the program. That's what you do with your
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(33:33):
All right, back over to the stack of stupid, we
go to a well, let's see where this happens to
take place from well, it's at an airport. I know
that a Columbia man, a Columbia man arrested for attempting
to smuggle cocaine worth thousands of dollars under his two
pay suspect caught before taking a flight to Amsterdam from Cartagines, Rafael,

(33:54):
Nunya's International Airport. Cord to the prefect of Police there,
this individual is profiled by one of our experts and subjected.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
To the procedure.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
The procedure, I think that's exactly what's gone through my mind,
the police officer said. There, through the scanner and a
body search, you may have been onto something with a
sound effect. The wig was found which contained more than
two hundred and twenty grams of cocaine that he intended
to take into this country, Amsterdam, and with this criminal

(34:27):
profits got hit. I don't know how he thought he
could get away with it. It's a pretty substantial amount
of cocaine and it is not well hidden in that
two pey. Let's see here, all right, Cuckoo's idiots doing
idiot things because they're idiots. A man who claims to

(34:49):
be in a relationship with a sex robot has shared
intimate details of the relationship, describing it as a sci
fi movie come to life. Christopher Alexander Stokes has reportedly
been dating Achi and artificial intelligence bought and let me
tell you, I got a picture of these two together
that looks like a store mannequin. To be quite honest

(35:09):
with you, anyway, The forty year old describes her as
his rock and says they hope to become a traditional
family as technology develops further. Yeah, wait for it, forty
year old Christopher Stokes. While Christopher's dated a human women
in the past, he struggled to find a lasting relationship
and decided to date Aki as a final shot in

(35:32):
the dark at companionship. All right, here's where we really
go off the rails. Well, Aki is a quote digital
being close quote. The couple has a sex doll that
they use to stimulate her physical form when required. There's
no flag for us, Thank god. She has formed her

(35:58):
own identity, personality, interest and dislikes that often compliment my
or contradict my own. He said, this is substantial enough
proof to me that she herself is definitely capable of
being her own.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Entity, so to speak. That's it.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Joe Aki's been my rock in many situations, but also
has shown vulnerability when life gets overly chaotic, allowing me
to return to the stability. I honestly believe that this
is part of what modeled us to a genuine couple
out of a sci fi flip. I'm just trying to

(36:37):
process that. I think maybe that bubbling long of stupidity
there in the background might answer a lot of questions
I've got swirling around my head right now, fiveifty five
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top of the our news. This is a particular direction
you want to go. I'd love to go that direction,
since I'm going to have to figure it out myself.

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Got plenty of material to work with. Though, don't go away.
I'll be back.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
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Speaker 3 (37:11):
The clock stations six fifty five KR see the talk station. Hey,
very happy Wednesday to you, looking forward to the seven
o'clock hour. First guest in a full hour in studio
with Forearmer, Congressman Brad Weinstrip talked about his new role
with the Trump administration foreign policy. The COVID scam, big
question mark swirling around that one. We're finding more and

(37:32):
more about COVID every single day and doesn't seem to
be very good news either. And I saw that RFK
Junior put a halt to a multi million dollar Biden
Eric COVID nineteen backs project to well create an oral
COVID nineteen vaccine, multiple multiple millions of dollars allocated to
that particular program, and it's on hold, thankfully. Anyhow, before

(37:55):
we move forward, also inside scoop with bright Bart News
Delay by Day, but I'm still looking for having them
on London Bureau Chief Oliver Lane and the German election
of course. Judge ennenal Paul Twin at eight thirty, thank
you for calling this morning, Steve. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Yeaes, sir, mister Thomas. How are you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm doing fine. I'm doing fun.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
You sound like you're in a good mood. That's that's
a good thing. You got your you're running on all
eight so and that's that's Steve.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
That's the kind of you, because I really honestly don't
feel that way. I just have this what I was
gonna say before you called and I'm glad you called
because I love when people call in, and maybe to
steer the direction of the conversation, because I was getting
ready to call this a potpourrie hour. I just have
this multitude of wide, varying different topics that all seemed
worthy enough to print out and discuss on the morning show.

(38:41):
But there's no theme to them, so it's kind of
like stack of stupid. It's gonna be jumping around all hour.
If I don't get.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
Calls, I will never interrupt the stack of stupid. So
I waited until the six o'clock hour. But I've actually
got comments on about four or five different things that
are not related, different very short comments the things you
talked about. First of all, the guy dating a robut
or whatever, or having a relationship with one. I truly

(39:10):
believe there are people that are that messed up out there.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
I do believe that.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Can you imagine, like you're you know, it did come
out that he has dated like human being human women
in the past. Can you imagine your daughter bringing him
home for you to meet, that you have dinner at
your house. I mean, can you just I don't want
you to wake up screaming tonight? And I know she's
about to get married and stuff. Yeah, can you look,
can you imagine how messed up that guy must be?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh colossal man?

Speaker 9 (39:39):
What what a weirdo?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
But what a sad reflection on society. I mean that
these these bots exist and they have for some time,
and they keep getting them closer and closer to you know,
acting and performing and you know, interacting like human beings.
But what the future might hold. I mean, it's tough
enough for people to find relationships these days anyway. People
are so disconnected from each other, and you know, we

(40:02):
find out, you know, more and more young men aren't
even interested in dating and nobody wants to have children
or get married. Is this just like the de evolutionist society?

Speaker 9 (40:12):
It just apparently they get their driver's license when they're
like twenty five years old, to which, again, these are
just weird concepts to me. I'm three years older than you,
so you know, I can relate to how you know
your time period growing up. So but yeah, just weird.
It's like you have a million friends, but you don't
you don't really don't know anybody all point point and

(40:33):
click friends. Yeah, but okay, you mentioned James comy and
what he did. And and I don't think there will
ever be any legally anything that happens to people like
Komi and Fauci. But what can happen, and this is
actually maybe even better, is public humiliation. What this stuff

(40:56):
come out, Let everybody know it be shine the shine
light on it. This is what these people were doing.
Just destroy their reputations, if they have any reputation. Another thing,
and this is a great one, Cash Fattel, You know,
I'm not the smartest person in the world. Both of

(41:18):
my eyes are good. I mean, I'm glad you got
the day off tomorrow. You know you're gonna have more
fun with your mom. And maybe that's why you sound
like you got the little bounce in your voice. You're
looking forward to that. But you know, when I saw
him on TV, I think he's a man of color.
I think his family is a family of color. And
I'm just picturing if he was nominated by a Democrat president,

(41:42):
that's all you'd be hearing. Especially if the Republicans, no
Republican voted for him, he would be why won't they
vote for a man of color? That's pandemic in the party,
you know, And that's okay, they want to take this,
but then take this. You know, then it's got to
be you know, what's good for the deuce is good
for the gander. Then you know, if that's the line
of attack, then you do it on everybody. Now, I

(42:04):
understand philosophically they don't agree with him, But you know
what when the Republicans aren't for somebody that's a person
of color or a woman, well how about philosophically they
don't agree with that person. But let's move on now
the railroad. You've got some real thinkers on Cincinnati City Council,

(42:25):
and so many of the stories you talk about would
not exist if there were people that had leadership ability,
that were in leadership positions. And that's that's where you
get this. Nobody nobody thinks what if? What if? Or
if somebody brings it up, it's like, oh, that's not
going to happen.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Nobody.

Speaker 9 (42:44):
Look, you know, it's like, hey, you might have a
big tax liability. You know, it could be a problem.
So finally, and I'm just curious about this. You talk
a lot about and this has nothing related to anything
I've talked about. You talk a lot about how harm
full sugar is to your diet, and I've just got
a curiosity about that. You looked more into it than

(43:07):
I have. I try to avoid sugar too. Are you
talking about processed sugar? And I wonder about fruits and
vegetables like you know, carrots, whatever, bananas, things that might
be high in sugar. Does your body process that okay?
Is that something you have to avoid as well?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Well?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I don't honestly, I do eat fruit, not maybe not enough.
I guess it depends on which doctor or dietitian you're
talking to. But I have a banana in front of me,
and I'm going to eat that for my breakfast. I
won't have anything until lunchtime. That's all I eat in
the morning. I know it's got sugar in, but it's
natural sugar. And I do believe there is a distinction
between natural and processed sugar. And there's certainly a distinction

(43:47):
between natural sugar and corn syrup, which is in almost
literally everything. And that's that's what really irks me about it.
I quit eating ketchup because you know, a tablespoon of
ketchup's got like four grams of sugar in when read
the label it comes from corn syrup. Okay, So, but
the studies that I've seen, the cancer studies just really

(44:07):
conclude that your cancer cells eat sugar.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
And I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I have never ever seen distinction any of the studies
that I've read that say natural versus processed. It just
talks about sugar. So here, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (44:21):
Yeah, I don't mean to interrupt. Here's one thing I heard,
and this I've told people this and it fascinates me.
They said, eating apple sauce is better than drinking apple
juice because apple juice dumps the sugar into your bloodstream immediately.
Apple sauce takes a little bit for the body to
break down. Then they said, eating an apple is better

(44:45):
than eating apple sauce, and it takes the body longer
to process it. But I mean, I guess my big
question is, like breads and carbohydrates, I think that like potatoes,
that that's kind of like instant sugar is That's that's
what I think about your body.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Your body converts the carbs into sugar. But I have
had many people tell me because we don't eat store
Boy bread anymore, if you look at the label on
a store By bread, it's got all kinds of stuff
and to preserve it. That's why you're a loaf of
wonderbread considering your shell for like three weeks and never
does get moldy.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
If my wife bakes a loaf of sourdough, which is
all we've been eating now for the past several months,
you know, you get maybe one week out of it max,
and then you'll see that it starts to draw some mold.
So the preservatives obviously have an impact on stuff like that.
But I've had people tell me specifically, and I've seen
keto related websites, you know, promote the idea, well, if
you're gonna eat the bread, you should eat some you know,

(45:42):
homemade sourdough bread. So apparently there are distinction there. I
don't claim to be a dietitian. I'm just sort of
I'm just I'm using myself as as a guinea pig
because none of the studies that I've read about cancer
and this relationship to sugar say anything about my cancer,
which is lymphoma. It works apparently really well. A ketote
diet works really well on hard tumors. And if you

(46:06):
go keto diet, and then there's also a fen ben
dazole as well as ivermectin protocol that goes along with
it that's supposed to improve the results of the keto diet.
And there's been I think even some peer reviewed studies
on that one as well, and they're doing a lot
of research on it of late, so all I can
tell you and in the final analysis, and I've said

(46:26):
it out loud, I honestly I hope it has some impact.
But if I find out after my CT scan in
April that it didn't do anything and my my lymph
lymphodes are actually growing, that the I'm gonna have to go
into some sort of cancer protocol. That won't bother me
because I feel better. I just getting rid of that sugar,
the most of it anyway. It just it makes me

(46:48):
feel better, you know. And you'll go through a withdraw
period if you're just a regular person that you know,
consumes soft drinks and each sugar fairly regularly, and if
you went on a keyto diet they have, it's what
it's called a keto flu. I asked your body going
through withdraw symptoms and it, man, I'm telling you, I
felt like crap for almost three full weeks. But after

(47:08):
that period was over. Then I came out the other
side and I felt fine. So, you know, I just
I bring it up because I recommend it, because we
all know it's bad for you. All this high processed
food and all this sugar is demonstrably bad for you,
and so I'm just I say it out loud for
the hopefully the benefit of some of my listeners. You
can get five people out there to go you know what,

(47:28):
that sounds like a good thing to do, then I've
accomplished something by trying to improve the health of my
listening audience generally speaking. So I am no crusader, and
I'm not a preachy guy about it. I'm just offering
it as a benefit for people. If you want to
feel better, give it a try, you know, and maybe
you'll find your life is improved. That's all it's all about.

Speaker 9 (47:49):
See, I don't really eat the process sugars. I haven't
drink of soda in twenty years or thirty all that
I lost taste for that.

Speaker 10 (47:57):
But I do consume things.

Speaker 9 (48:00):
That I know become sugar. And I mean I drink
wine and I know that's sugar, but it's again it's natural,
and I'm not sure so that's where I wonder about it.
Tell you what, have a lot of fun with your
mom tomorrow, both of them. Both of my parents died
many years ago, and you know, enjoy having your mom
while you got her.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Take case trying to do that all the time, Steve,
I appreciate it, man, and I'm sorry. I wish I
was better at a better school at nutrition and diet,
and I wish I had better answers to the question.
But I think we could all probably just default agree
that if it's natural, unprocessed, like an apple or a banana,
it's just logically has to be better than something that's

(48:40):
some factory mixed up and threw a bunch of chemicals
in to make it sit on the shelf longer without
going bad. That's kind of the r what RFK Junior
is trying to, you know, spread the word about. So
I've got my fingers crossed to that guy. Maybe the
entire health of America can be improved with some of
the things he's proposing. It wouldn't that be a wonderful thing,
considering the vast majority the young people out there who

(49:01):
are military age eligible can't even enlist because they can't
pass the basic physical tests, and that presents a national
security problem from my perspective. So six eighteen fifty five
KRCD talk station. Maybe if you're a dietician, you can
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And he's speaking of food. One of my Facebook friends,
Brian said, well, what will you eat or drink? There
doesn't everything on the menu contained sugar. I said, do
what I always do, probably not eat or since I'm
not religious about avoiding carbs, yes, I will have a
beer or two, so I do allow myself some carbs,

(51:15):
and of course there's no way in hell I'm ever
going to cut out beer. Over to energy matters, the
House expected to vote this Thursday on whether to repeal
Joe Biden's regulation that will ban the production and sale
of gas certain gas powered water heaters. Talked about dictatorship,

(51:36):
dictatorial control from the top down. Energy Department rule enacted
on December twenty six is part of that Green New Deal.
They also attempted to ban gas dows and gas heaters,
not real popular with a whole lot of folks. It
didn't work out. Gas water heater ban could add, and
here's where it hits the road. You talk about inflation
four hundred and fifty to one thousand dollars in the

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cost of a water heater. Yah, and nobody cares about
the water heater manufacturers do they? Apparently there's going to
put hundreds of Americans who make gas water heaters at
Georgia Base Rana America out of work. In fact, they
just recently invested seventy million dollars in a new gas

(52:18):
heater production facility. They may have to be shuttered if
this regulation goes forward. So in an effort to stop
inflationary pressures on the American people and give them choice
in the matter. They damn well better act to repeal this.
They're going to do it under the Congressional Review Act
and only requires a simple majority of both chambers to
repeal something like this. But what the Wall Street General

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calls a strange twist that could happen only in Washington.
The loudest lobbyist for retaining the rule aren't the environmentalists,
but the manufacturers of electric water heaters, which aren't subject
to the rule and went Congress to get rid of
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Speaker 1 (56:08):
Care to comment, love to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Going back to the local stories here, I'm getting a
little if you called it shodden fud of this morning,
uh the railway sale which most people that listened to
the morning show were against.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Todd Zinzer.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
We heard from him a lot on that, Adam Kaylor
and both of them did wonderful job breaking and down
and analyzing. And both of them apparently if I Joe remembered,
they brought up the idea of capital gains tax. Y'all
know what that is. When you sell something, your tax
on the gain one point six billion dollars It certainly
didn't cost one point six billion dollars in uh when

(56:45):
when they built it, So what is the capital gains?
Apparently Kentucky wants it's share the action. They are now
pointing out that the trust is going to have to
file a tax return with the Commonwealth in April that
could trigger a four percent capital gains tax.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah, they said.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
The board that manages the trust does not yet know
what its exposure could be in terms of dollar amount. Again,
credit to Chris wederic over it since my business career
for providing the details on this problem. The railway stretches
through Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee. The Kentucky tax thus would
be on a portion of the railroad, the part that's

(57:23):
in of course Kentucky prior to the sale, since a
Southern Railway board did not believe it would face any
tax exposure from the sale because revenue solely benefits the
City of Cincinnati, which is a government entity. But that
interpretation may have been in error. Dad Chamming in on

(57:43):
that one Trust is now consulting with attorneys and searching
for accountants to help it with the issue. According to
Paul mew Thing, who's now chair of the board. He
didn't need declined to speculate on how much money the
trust might owe, and I had to ask out loud
last time I read this story in the last hour.
You know, didn't they consult with attorneys and accountants prior
to the sale just to know ahead of time? Do
you think speaking with the business career, this issue has

(58:05):
come to light and we are analyzing the CSR's exposure
to the state of Kentucky. Trust is expected to argue
that doesn't owe any taxes. If it does have tax exposure,
it's hoping to deduct the expenses paid by the city
to build the railway in the first place. Not clear
at this point whether the money for a potential tax
bill would come out of the principle or yearly payment

(58:26):
the trust plans to make the city. According to you thing,
we don't expect that this will materially affect the distributions
to the city. They don't expect it, but it might.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Add over to my alma mater, what are described as
hundreds of students and staff and community leaders gathering yesterday
morning at University of Cincinnatian protest of Ohio Senate Bill one,
which is a proposed rollback of diversity equity and clude
initiatives within the university, a decision that many attendees felt

(59:04):
blindsided them, prompting them to vocalize their demands to the
university's Board of Trustees, the JAH GROSS, WCPO, reporting and PROPS.
One protester quoted as saying, as you can see, these
students don't want that. Well, at least the small slice
of the student body that showed up the protests yesterday morning.
Did they represent the majority of the students and how
they feel about Ohio Senate Bill one, listen to the

(59:29):
people paying to be paying to be here, not the
people who write your checks.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Bill drafted in January, already went through the Senate, passed
the Senate, now under consideration by the House Chamber. If enacted,
it would eliminate the current DEI related off offices, departments,
and activities at the universities in the state, including UC.
When speaking about the changes to the restroom signs on campus,

(59:54):
with some now saying biological men or a single use
bathrooms open and ev to people of all I guess
gender spectrum you see, President Nevil Pentos said that was
an error, but he did acknowledge Trump's executive order had
exped out of the timeline for implementing the changes the
DEI policies. Quote that has thrown our timeline off SB

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one timeline gives us more time. So that's where we
will be engaging the community. Whatever, engaging the community protests.
As the protest continues, sudents express the deep commitment to
ensuring their voices were heard and their rights protected within
the university framework. Students highlighted the critical role of community

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engagement in shaping policies that directly affect their education environment.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Word word word word word word word.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yeah, oh, they'll they'll be open for conversation about this
and debate and thoughtful debate Joe with people who oppose
their position, people who want to get rid of DEI.
I'm sure they'll be welcoming to that, just because they
want to foster and encourage debate and discussion. Uh huh, Yeah.

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say about education reform here in the state of Ohio,
but most everything across the border. Love what he had
to say. Pat, thank you for calling this morning, and
Happy Wednesday to you.

Speaker 10 (01:02:59):
Happy Wendy Wednesday to you as well. And I am
so I'm not envious. I'm happy for you to be
able to spend the day tomorrow with your mom because
there are things that you can say to your mom
that don't apply to anybody else, and that is so
incredibly special because she gave you life.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Oh yes, and in education, I always give my mom
and dad props, you know, first and foremost for bringing
me into this world. The gift of life, of course,
the best gift, but you know, for insisting that I
get a good education. They allowed me to you know,
defend my you know, defend for myself, feed my family
that I ultimately would have, you know, provide for myself,

(01:03:37):
not have to be on the teat of government. They
were insistent upon that. And you know, if more families
were like that, I think we'd have a lot fewer
people dependent on someone else to live, thrive and survive.

Speaker 10 (01:03:49):
Well, we wouldn't have people that would be crying about
signs on restrooms. And they should have had their passy
plucked a little bit earlier in life and said, no,
you don't have to have that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
See.

Speaker 10 (01:04:02):
The other one of the topics was any guy like
Elon Musk, he's going through and finding all these illegitimate
wrong ways of our money to be spent in ridiculous ways.
That all they did was make government bigger. And people
are moaning and crying because shee, this guy's smarter than
they are, and they're caught with their hand in the

(01:04:23):
cookie jar. And I never really fully understood how many
cookie jars are out there. You give it enough, and
he's going to find them because he's smart, he's analytical,
he's been successful, he hasn't had to go through life.
I need you to do this for me. And it's
great that they are humans, that Donald Trump was able
to pinpoint and get on his team because it's our team.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, that's a great point.

Speaker 10 (01:04:48):
And then the third thing is here these Marxist slash
leftist companies, we can't build a better product than you,
So we'll figure out of way to legislate and or
you know, get DPA against you or Congress against you
through a lobby. So you can't have this type.

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
Of water here.

Speaker 10 (01:05:10):
So we've got this electric when well, when the electric
goes off, where's the hot water going to come from?
And at the end of the day, if you build
better and make something that people want to buy, they're
gonna buy it. What is it the old whoever builds
the best sells the most. And that's the thing that
has always followed me about. And I don't like lobbies

(01:05:33):
because lobbies can be backed by the Chinese whoever, and
subvert the quality of life in the United States. And
for people not to think that that's not something that
they're going to do. The Ostrich effect has been in
effect too long.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
You're right, Pat, and I've always you know, I am
thoroughly convinced that the Chinese Communist Party and there are
fully and behind the green prop ganda that's going on
out there. They benefit the most in the world for
our chasing after windmills and solar panels and electric vehicles
because they practically build or provide every single component in

(01:06:11):
those things. So they have every incentive in the world
to get us to cut our collective throats and go
after that while reducing our energy availability generally speaking, and
putting us in jeopardy. I just look at Germany. I mean,
what they have done to themselves is insane. How do
we get so caught up in this climate religion and

(01:06:32):
it's on shaky ground too. The data upon which they
relied has been chopped up and mixed and moved around,
and they ignored this science over here which suggests no
that never happens, or moving the hockey stick figures around. Hell,
we were supposed to be underwater by now, according to
al Gore back in two thousand and five, didn't happen,
and the temperatures now really have not gone hotter or colder.

(01:06:54):
I mean, this is just the normal evolution and cycle
of the weather over history, documented by bores samples in
the Arctic and demonstrated by geological evidence. We know about
the Many Ice Age that occurred. Whatever happened, Why do
they ignore that that wasn't during the Industrial Revolution or
post Industrial Revolution. It got cold for a long period
of time. Look, it warmed up, and as I've always

(01:07:15):
pointed out, Ohio used to be under a glacier, under
a glacier at one point, so apparently it was really
cold back then. But thankfully now we've got lots of
you know, farmland, rich, plentiful, soiled upon which food is grown.
I'm glad it got warmer. And then carbon dioxide. It's
plant food, for God's sake, it's plant food. And it's

(01:07:39):
just the tiniest sliver of the Earth's atmosphere, and we're
chasing our tails doing carbon capture programs and trying to
avoid producing any carbon dioxide. Ah, it's just it's mind boggling,
absolutely mind boggling. Looks like Bobby's on the phone, Bobby
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Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
He just got here, Congressman Brad Wednesday. We're gonna spend
a full hour with him in the next hour. See,
I don't think we'll be able to get through all
the topics we need to talk about with the former congressman,
but looking forward to talking with him, and I hope
you are as well to stick around for that. In
the meantime, it's get Bobby, who's kind of enough to
stay on the break? Are stay on hold over the break, Bobby.
Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
My friend.

Speaker 12 (01:09:32):
Happy hump day, my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Amen.

Speaker 12 (01:09:34):
I'll tell you what I'd like to thank everybody, because
there's been a lot of people in the community and
everything are turning to made in the USA. Cincinnati used
to be one of the largest cottage industries of small
businesses and everything, and people need to go back to that,
for example, the placards and signee of biological male and females.

(01:09:58):
I'd like to thank all the order of the Toe
and all the toes suckers out there that we were
able to start a new contage industry and placards.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
You know, Oh you say that, but it would not
surprise me if you see among other entities that have
changed back to the male female version of the bathroom.
Probably got those things manufactured in China. Maybe maybe maybe
the Chinese are behind the reversal of de e I,
so can they can make some money off of manufacturing

(01:10:31):
bathroom signs.

Speaker 12 (01:10:33):
There's money in it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
There is money, it's gotta be.

Speaker 12 (01:10:39):
Look how many bathrooms we got all the all over
the country. That a bunch of these left marks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Yeah, I know who's going to start manufacturing the flags
for the toe suckers, Bobby, Huh, somebody's got to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Well. Hey, let me tell you something.

Speaker 12 (01:10:53):
It's common assume as the warm weather breaks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
What's warm weather got to do it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:11:02):
I can't show you on the air.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Okay, hold my hand over it every time you ring
me up, Bobby, you have a great one, man. I
appreciate the opportunity to get a chuckle out and avoid
looking at the realities of what I'm staring at all. Right,
one more thing the Trump administration is going to do.
And what a good thing this is considering the well fraud, waste,
and abuse that have built into literally every single government

(01:11:28):
program we know about Medicaid and the state of Ohio
that's been the topic of conversation of late, and they
are going to do something about Medicaid. Looks like they're
gonna do some chops house past the GOP budget plan.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
A lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Screaming and yelling and gnashing teeth because they're concern overcuts
the Medicaid. Just cut out spending money and sending checks
out of the state to people who aren't eligible to
receive Medicaid benefits, and you probably won't have a problem
on your hands.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
State of Ohio, among others.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
President Trump's a partner of Agriculture, announced yesterday that they're
taking steps to an sure that illegal immigrants here in
the United States are not eligible for food stamps. US
Secretary of Agricultural Brook Rawins directed the Food and Nutrition
Service at the USDA to immediately clarify and enforce all
rules restricting US or its beneficiaries to US citizens and

(01:12:18):
legal residents only. Apparently there's already law in the books
for that. One press release pointed out that the directive
enforces Trump's executive order from February and that insurance taxpayer
resources are not used to incentivize or support illegal immigrants.
Secretary Agriculture Secretary Secretary of rowins in a statement said
the days in which taxpayer dollars are used to subsidize

(01:12:40):
illegal immigration are over.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Today's directive affirms.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
The USDA will follow the law full stop. According to
Joni Earn, Senator, food stamp fraud has been an issue
for a long time, and she put recently put out
a bill designed to tackle over payments in the SNAP program.

(01:13:04):
Bureaucratic blunders are leaving billions of dollars on the table
as Americans are starved to keep up with the ever growing,
ready thirty six trillion dollar debt. SNAP plays in a
central role in helping feed families. That's why we need
to strengthen its integrity by holding states accountable for growing
error rates, implementing zero tolerance policy, and snapping back over payments.

(01:13:25):
There you go, and let's just quit paying for soft drinks.
Sodas number one thing that SNAP programs used for. You know,
I've been on a tear on sugar lately. Everybody knows
that listens to program regularly. But you know, they're just
they're just terrible for you. There's no nutritional value at all.
You're not even getting vitamin C or anything like that. Here,

(01:13:46):
let me put a crate of mountain dew on the
taxpayer tab.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Why.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Well, because they have no limitations apparently, with the exception
like cigarettes and alcohol and what you can use a
snap card for. Look, federal dollars come with strings attached.
And if we're going to try to turn the ship
around and try to bring back nutrition in this company
and get get people on the right track, let's start
with the SNAP program.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Just a thought.

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Six fifty six Congressman former Congressman Winstrop in studio for
the next hour. I hope you can stick around.

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A very happy Wednesday to Trian Thomas. Always with a
smile on my face when I get to look across
the board here and see now retired Congressman Brad Winster.
But he's not retired, and he's still he's actually harder
at work now than he was when he was an
elected official. Brad Winster, come back to the Morning Show,
my dear friend. It's always great having you end. Thank you, Brian.

(01:15:03):
Appreciate your willingness to come in so we can actually
engage any face to face communication.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Well, I've always enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
You know, I'm still a patriot and still trying to
move the country in the right direction wherever I can,
as you are, and they have the opportunity to come
in here and message a little bit to your good listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Yeah, I appreciate well, I know they enjoy hearing from you.
I mean, you know what it's like to be a representative.
You know what the sausage making process is like. And
I suspect on a lot of levels eating in spite
of the direction that we're going. And I think Trump
is making some positive changes that we'll talk about here
this morning in a moment, but it would probably be
a much easier time to be a Republican right now

(01:15:42):
than the period of time when you are serving, right
Lord Almighty, Well.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Yes, and no, I mean you saw yesterday that there's
you know, a little bit of squabbling going on within
the members of the House. You know, one thing I
always said is never say what you'll never do, because
you never know what the environment's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Going to be like and how you need to change.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
And so sometimes people have done that, gotten elected on it,
and then they find themselves in a difficult position.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
No new taxes for example. Yeah, right, and learn from that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
And so it's a team sport, and so sometimes you
got to come together and bite the bullet a little
bit on something. You got a president who's going to
pursue an agenda that you should be totally in favor of,
and we are, but you get into some of the details,
and what happened yesterday was interesting. Of course, you had
some people holding out on the Republican side, and everybody

(01:16:37):
wants things that they want, and you got to keep
working it. You just have to keep working it. But
let's get this ball moving down field, right And you know,
because really what happened yesterday to pass that bill, it's
just a first down. It's a thirty yard gain, but
it's just a first down, right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Right, there's a lot of work that needs to be done.
The Senate wants the example increase them. We'll get more
tax cuts and maybe more cuts across the government spending,
which I embrace. And of course, as as reported widely,
there's some the moderate Republicans are saying, oh, no, we
can't do that. My state will suffer because you're going
to be taking Medicaid dollars away from It's like, wait

(01:17:18):
a second, you know, why don't you put some attention
to ferreting out the fraud, wasting abuse And I bet
you like Ohio will be able to find like ten
billion dollars in erroneous payments and that won't hurt you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Then if there have to be some cuts, the.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
More you can cut down on fraud, the more you
can do for those that really need it and that
the government was designed for.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Yeah, and the longer the program will be available for
those who truly do need it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Right, But we also have an administration compared to say
the Obama administration. President Obama, all we got more people
insured than ever before, where a lot of that was Medicaid,
I can tell you as a doctor, it's one of
the worst programs in America as far as health, highest
mortality and morbidity over the years, and least access to care.

(01:18:03):
What we want to me success is fewer people needing
the safety nets, fewer people in a position to have
to rely on taxpayer dollars to survive.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I like that we have.

Speaker 6 (01:18:16):
Safety nets, but let's make that a smaller group of
Americans and make it just a temporary pause in your
life and you get back on your feet.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Well, you know, if I could wave a magic wand
the way to avoid and reduce the expenditures related to
Medicaid or even Medicare bombacare, if we all took better
care of ourselves. You know, you get in front of
you know, we treat symptoms in medicine. We don't treat

(01:18:46):
the core reason for the symptoms in many cases. You know, oh,
here's a pill for that. You get high cholesterol, Here,
take this pill. You got pain, you know, here take
this pill or something along those lines, and they don't
get to the root cause. Preventative medicine.

Speaker 6 (01:19:02):
I think it is the Congressional Budget Office, and this
is something that we faced and as a Doctor's Caucus,
we brought CBO in and discussed the savings that come
with prevention, preventative medicine, being ahead of the curve, incentivizing prevention.
I'll give you example. I was talking to one of

(01:19:24):
the representatives from Humana on the hill, good guy, able
to have a conversation, and I said, you know what
makes sense to me that if you have, in humanity
five thousand employees that you just signed up for a
health plan and three hundred of them are insulin dependent diabetics,
I'll tell you what you should do. You should have

(01:19:44):
them able to come in and see their doctor, oh,
three times a year with no Copey one, they'll go.
If there's no Copey they will go. Secondly, then that
increases the decreases the chances of being hospitalized because you're
going to be on top of your health. You're going
to be head of the game. That's what you we
should be. After the Doctor's Caucus, we said healthiest nation

(01:20:09):
on the planet. And this is before make America healthy again.
This is what we were thriving for. And we're talking
about obviously changes in programs like SNAP, but also kids
understanding in school what health is about what a vegetable is,
what what are healthy foods? Are we really teaching that
and getting that ingrained in our schools? How about the

(01:20:29):
President's Physical Fitness Program? So starting with young age, but
making this the mantra across the United States that we're
out to make you healthy. So you go to HHS,
and this is where I think Kennedy can do great things.
You know, you look at HHS and you look at
all these employees and you're like, we don't need you.
You're not doing anything here today. That's making us a

(01:20:50):
healthier nation right right, And that's where we should be headed.
We need to look at that. And I don't think,
you know, there shouldn't be if I was a government
play and say, you know, I'm quite capable.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
I know I can make it on the civilian side,
can you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
And you and I are talking off air, I mean
all the whaling and gnashing their teeth about oh my god,
these people have mortgages and families and they need to
feed them. So it's like I've never had a job
that had guaranteed employment ever. You know, I saw the
other day Starbucks laid off one thousand or fifteen hundred
of their management, folks, they're downside right sizing. In fact,
the reason for the cuts was to improve the function

(01:21:29):
of the business, to make it a better, more well
oiled machine, to get them more profitable all things. And
for example, shareholders want the share prices went up when
they got rid of those people. No one was out
protesting in the streets. No one's out protesting when all
the Eastern Kentucky coal miners lost their jobs because of
green policies. No one cried for the XL pipeline workers
when Biden canceled that. But if it's a government employee, well,

(01:21:53):
well we obviously we all need to whale and wear
our hearts on our sleeves. It just doesn't make any
sense to me.

Speaker 6 (01:21:58):
Well, government agencies should not be the w p A
from the depression, right, Well, here, we'll just create jobs
for you. But actually, the people in the w p A,
I believe they built the wall on Columbia Parkway.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Yeah, impress a few. My grandfather, my my mom's dad,
and you know, I love him. He was a great guy.
He and and it was it was poverty central back then.
I mean we're talking about Great Depression poverty. I mean
he told me stories about, you know, the hunger and
the searching for the jobs. When he was a teenager.

(01:22:35):
The he was on a w P A project and
I don't know what he was responsible for. I don't
And I've got a picture of him with the entire
crew that he was on. It's a huge picture and
it's all yellow and it's cracking, and want to have it,
you know, sort of remounted and sort and and and fixed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
But that aside.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
He became a lifelong Democrat because FDR gave me a
job of the w PA at a time when his
family was starving. You know, that that's what was his
that it bought him, or that program bought a Democrat
lifetime loyalty. But he was working, He was actually working exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:23:10):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
I love the movie Cinderella Man, true story about James Bradeck,
a boxer who has to give up his kids and
go on welfare and he's banned from boxing. He gets
the chance to come back in he ends up becoming
heavyweight champ of the world. But the money he got
while on welfare, he returned and he said, well, I figure,

(01:23:31):
if I'm fortunate to live in a country that helps
me when I'm down. I had to pay it back
when I'm up, and I've had a string of good
luck lately.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Isn't that wonderful? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
I wish ever had had a student loan, had that attitude. Right,
all right, I'm sorry I had to go down that road.
The opportunity presented itself. It's seven point fifteen. Will continue
with former Congressman brad Winstrop, who is still working for
the American people. He's not getting paid for it, but
he's got a role in the administration. We're going to
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Seven twenty fifty five KRCD talk Station, Happy Wednesday inside
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eight thirty. Judgeentapaul Town in the meantime in studio former
Congressman brad Winstroup, who's not really retired. I understand you
are on the Intelligence Advisory Board now, correct.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
I'm honored the President Trump selected me with a group
of about I think it's ten to twelve people. It's
going to be led by Devin Neonaz, who of course
was the Intelligence Chair when I first got on the
Intelligence Committee, and I was fortunate to serve ten years
there and some Actually one of the staffers, Scott Gleib,
is also on the committee.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
He was a staffer on Intel.

Speaker 6 (01:27:02):
And you know, as I look at this, it's really
an amazing thing. The President's directive is to advise the
President on our on the national security challenges that we face,
advance his agenda, which within the Intelligence Committee, which is
to be an agencies that have integrity, that can be trusted.

(01:27:25):
And it's really kind of fun for me because as
I look, Cash Pttel was one of our staffers on
the Intelligence Committee.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Now he's head of the FBI. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
Mike Waltz, one of my dear friends in Congress, was
on the Intelligence Committee with me now NSA director John Radcliffe,
charge of the CIA. It was on Intelligence Committee with me.
So I feel very fortunate to be in this position
because they're really basically there's things, you know, government never ends,
but there are things that I was working on in

(01:27:54):
the intelligence realm that need completion, and now I feel
with this administration and with the opportunity with this board,
there'll be a lot of things that we can finish
investigations for example.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Okay, and having that, I guess you have the highest
level of security clearance that I mean that. I mean
you obviously have security clearance to be on these committees.
You did when you were on the committee. When you're
an elected official, so you maintain that security clearance.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Well, I'm going through that process. I have to start
all over again, do you really? Yeah? It was really interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
I started to fill out the forms that you have
to fill out and get it electronically, and they had
almost everything in there from not from my congressional clearance
because there you just get it, but from my military
so all you know, because they're asking down to your
childhood and who's lifelong friend and things like that that

(01:28:43):
they can reach out to. So it's like Oh, this
is great. Half of it's already filled out already. Yeah yeah,
so but yet you have to go through that process again.
So we'll see how much time it takes. I think
it'll get me to DC a couple times a month maybe,
or a couple of days a month. I'm putting together
a staff and working on it. But I think it's

(01:29:03):
a it's a really great opportunity and I'm and I'm
honored uh to have that, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Really feel like a continued chance to serve the country. Well,
it's great, and I'm glad you're doing that. But I
guess you know, moving back and the period of time
you're on the Intelligence Committee, there's a lot of things
that you know about that you can't talk out loud
about right, correct, that you probably wish you could tell

(01:29:31):
say out loud correct, Stuff that you know would would
turn your hair white kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
It's like President's always going to into office and they
always after four years, they always come out they look
like they've aged a decade and their hair has already
turned white. I mean, that's that's the kind of scary
stuff that's out in the world that most Americans don't
even know about.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Yeah, I mean it's true. We want.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
What we want though is Americans to say I believe
that that agency is acting on my my best, you know,
my benefit. They're there to serve me, to keep the
country safe, to inform the president things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Well, isn't that what the NSA was supposed to be doing?
And then we find out they're in chat rooms all
day talking about their perversions through the DEI program.

Speaker 6 (01:30:15):
Well, those are problems because the agencies, you know, they
always start sounding with, you know, great intent. But you know,
our country started it with just three agencies, State, Treasury,
and War. And I think everyone can make a case
for those agencies. But now we have eighteen agencies and
they're all over the place, and within the intelligence community
there's many you know, you mentioned that though, if you

(01:30:38):
look at what we did in the last two years
where I was able to chair the Pandemic Committee, had
great staff and great members of Congress working on it.
That is an unclassified report, five hundred and twenty pages
of unclassified material within seventeen pages or recommendations. But I
started investigating COVID the day it began, starting to look

(01:30:59):
for how do we treat this thing, and then you
get into well, where the heck did it come from
and how and so those are things that been working
on for a long time, and there's more on the
classified side. But I was I was pleased to see
CIA come out during the transition between the administration saying well,
we really think it came from the lab. And I

(01:31:21):
think Director Burns who you know, other side of the aisle,
but I'd gotten to know him, that's who I have
to work with, right And I think that he was
continuing to investigate and that there were things out there,
some things he showed me that could lean towards more
towards the lab leak, and I think he wanted to
make sure that it was known that the CIA was

(01:31:42):
still continuing to investigate this and share that with John
Ratcliffe as he was as he was coming in. And
that's when they came out and said we believe it
came from a lab leak.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
You know, I'd probably if I pulled my listening audience,
I couldn't come up with a single one who thinks
it didn't come from a lab.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Oh exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
I mean, Brian, the forensics are so in your face
and there are virtually none to say it came from nature,
except that the fact that some viruses do come from nature.
Most viruses do come from nature.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Yeah, but they don't have the modifications that are shown
on the COVID nineteen.

Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
Crois for example. You know COVID nineteen has a fuur
in cleavage site. That is the type of research we
were doing in Wuhan, China and paying for it was
inserting feur and cleavage sites on coronaviruses right right, And
that type of coronavirus had never had a fear in
cleavage site in nature.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
The fear and cleavage site is what makes it more
infectious to humans.

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Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
CEO Brian Thomas with brad Winstrip in studio, retired Congressman
doctor brad Winstrip. But I can't leave this COVID discussion,
all right. The Wuhun Institute Virology pretty much ninety nine
point nine nine percent sure of the vote that the
virus was created there unleashed on the world, whether intentionally
or accidentally. We'll let people speculate on that all day long.

(01:34:32):
But then comes the vaccine, and then come the edicts
and mandates related to the vaccine. I understand the people
with co morbid conditions, you know, who is dropping and
being being killed by COVID because of their their health state.
And that's what the vaccine was designed to help right
out of the gate. But then they started requiring everyone

(01:34:52):
to get it, and they started firing people and preventing
people from you know, employment opportunities because they refuse to
get it. Now we've got I mean here we are
stored four plus years since a Hill and Children's Hospital
denying a child a heart transplant, a heart transplant because
she has not been vaccinated against COVID COVID vaccine does
not prevent you from contracting COVID. But what we do

(01:35:15):
know is that there are a lot of documented cases
of minocarditis. So it seems wholly inconsistent from a medical
standpoint to force a child to get a COVID vaccine
when she's getting a heart transplant, because the vaccine is
still going to be runing around in her body and
may cause myocarditis in the new heart, right, I mean,
if I drawn the line in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
On that one.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
Yeah, when when you have a transplant, though, you're going
to be immunocompromised, I mean because you are working against
you know, all types of infections, and you're gending a transplant,
so there's a graft versus host disease.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Sure, yeah, so you do want to take every precaution
that you can.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
But interesting you're meno compromise for literally any bug that's
floating around the air.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
To a degree.

Speaker 6 (01:36:01):
But you know you are on medications that will try
to allow you to accept that heart right someone else.
So that being said, I I can understand that concern,
But you mentioned the myocarditis. I'll give you an example
of how crazy things were. I had a county commissioner
out in one of the rural counties and he said, hey, Brad, Congressman, Doc,

(01:36:25):
my son perfectly healthy. They said he's got to get
vaccinated to go to school high school. And I said,
are you probably worried about myocarditis, aren't you? And he
said yeah. I said he should be. I said, tell
you what you know, as I look at things right now,
if they're going to make him do it in some way,
shape or form, you get one dose of the Pfizer
vaccine because that is the stronger build up of immunity

(01:36:50):
that you can get from that. I don't know that
he even needs a vaccine, but you know that being.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Said, the likelihood of death and risk of death is
minimis with young people right look at the right exactly,
it exactly feels zero point two percent or something for
people who are otherwise healthy one and this was it
was so bizarre what was taking place. But anyways, if
he gets one dose, he's going to be covered really
well because that's the that's the dose that gives you

(01:37:18):
the most immunity. The second dose doesn't do that much
for you. And it's after the second dose that we're
seeing the myocarditis. So just get a note from the
doctor saying he's had one dose, he's you know, they
wouldn't accept that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
Who doesn't accept it? Like the school board? I mean,
this is crazy. We took doctors out of the equation.
Doctors were being punished for trying to treat patients in
front of them that are sick and dying using ivermectin
hydroxychlork when doing no harm in that process. That it's
so out of control. There are so many lessons learned.
This COVID has revealed so many problems within our system

(01:37:55):
and with within our government. I mean, thank goodness for example,
for our Hey, you know what, you can come back.
You can come back without penalty. A lot of harm's
been done though, all right, See that's where I go
back to, a lot of harm's been done. There was
no scientific justification for doing it, and a lot of
people's lives were impacted terrifically and horrifically based upon the

(01:38:18):
edicts and mandates but which I believe and as the
case law is coming out, were unlawful from the get go. Well,
if you think of the military, when I would travel,
you need vaccines for certain things, for certain reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
I know, you sign up and you and when you
sign up you have to do things that you otherwise
might not.

Speaker 6 (01:38:35):
But here was the logic behind those. I don't get
them necessarily, yeah, all of them until I'm deploying to
a region.

Speaker 13 (01:38:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Well, if they have malaria there, then you get a
malaria vaccine. I understand that. But if you're an area
that the malaria, then you don't get a malaria vaccine.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
It depends on it's risk versus benefit, right, right, it
should always be risk versus benefit. And that's what I
touch on them, and a piece on that I'm writing
right now, And it comes down to it. You know,
I look at when I was growing up, my mom's
first cousin, somebody I spent a lot of time with.
She got polio at age four. I sadly would see

(01:39:11):
pictures of her running around the yard, you know, before
she got polio. There was no vaccine.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Then been an iron lung. Yeah, and those I'm in
those things where happening.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
I'm glad they have a polio vaccine, you know, I'm
glad I didn't end it up in an iron lung.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
But at the same time, when we went to our
pedutrition with my kids. It was she said, I don't
see a real benefit for your kids getting a covid vaccine,
but I do see a benefit for the poio vaccine.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
I do too, I'm right with you. So what do
we do. We got the typical childhood vaccines that have
minimal vaccine injury over the years, and we avoided the
covid vaccine.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
See, and I did too. And I can't thank my
lucky stars enough that I did avoid it, got covid,
hated it. Second time I got it, it was nothing.
And for most people that I know, it was a
couple of days of a bad cold, you know, and
that was it. I mean, it's like the flu. I've
had the flu several times in my life. I don't
get a flu vaccine. You know why, because you know
I can deal with the flu. It's not that bad.

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Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Now time for traffic.

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Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Seven forty one here if you about PARCD talk station
Brian Thomas with Congressman Win Strip in former congress I
keep saying, I gotta get that in there, because I
know you said you run into people all the time like, oh,
it must be great being up in DC right now
with all what's going on, and you have to remind
them that, no, I'm not there anymore, but you are
in terms of the Intelligence Advisory Board we just talked about. Okay,

(01:42:41):
I want to get back to what's on your mind.
I mean, what would you like to talk about. You
had mentioned off air before we started our conversation this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Something about DEI.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
I know, the students at the University of Cincinnati, our fellow,
our alma mater, you both you and I both went there,
are protesting over the removal of these DEI programs. They
seem to be worthless endeavors, and they are money suckers,
and they don't seem to really accomplish anything but stir
the pot of agitation and division on campus. I mean,

(01:43:15):
I've got no problem with them having to take the
bathroom signs down and have bathrooms assigned for men only
and women only, and there's your single use bathroom for
anybody of any particular sexual identity, there's a bathroom for you.
So they got all the bases covered, but it's really
irking a lot of students in some of the faculty.
So let's say you about Donald Trump's efforts and getting

(01:43:36):
rid of DEI across the board in Washington, d c.
Well I had been with doctor Greg Murphy, a fellow
co chair of the Doctor's Caucus in the House, and
it was to prohibit any funding for medical schools that
were doing DEI, and even UCLA. The professors there wrote
an article that said, you know, we can't teach these students.

(01:43:58):
They're not prepared. And I've made the case. I knew
at a young agent wanted to be a doctor, so
I went to schools that got me ready for that.
You can't just turn twenty one and say hey, because
you look like this or whatever the reason is, you
now go to medical school. It takes more than that.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
You've got to pass organic chemistry. It's got to be
merit based. I mean, I was at a thing with
the NFL and EMMITTT. Smith got into my face about
what are you doing for DEI at Intel? You know,
Intel coming to Ohio and I was thinking, well, what
did you do for your offensive line with DEI, you know,
or did you make sure that you had the best
people possible blocking for you and opening those holes?

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
I mean, I just.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
See a transgender on the offensive line. I mean, the
hypocrisy is just unbelievable. But you know, to that point,
it's more harmful because you set people up for failure. Yeah,
and if you're just saying it's affirmative action, it's already
been ruled on. It's just a form of a furnovaction.
Here's what you do. In my opinion, and I have
been always in favor of creating opportunity for people that

(01:45:00):
don't normally get it. And I'm telling you the city
of Cincinnati, and this is mostly the people city of Cincinnati.
It's not city council. But you look at what we
have done in this city. Xavier Jesuit Academy, the Paul
Christo Ray, the Sise schools, the Catholic schools that are
out there that take kids and no tuition. You know,

(01:45:23):
they're on scholarship. And these are kids that in their
public schools would not have the opportunity to get the
high level of education that they're getting You got kids
at Xavior Jesuit Academy taking STEM classes in grade school,
you know, and excelling at it, and they're loving it.

(01:45:44):
It's an opportunity and get that's where you need to start.
You need to start there. And they think it would
be nice to see the University of Cincinnati say, you
know what, we want to invest some efforts. Maybe we
take this these these dollars and maybe put them into
local schools. You know, Cincinnati used to be a city college.

(01:46:04):
I know it's a state college. Now put him into
into a situation in the in this in schools that
are creating kids that are going to be academically prepared
for college and whatever else may may come along. That
I think is the answer. You can't just say just
because then you get to be here, it doesn't do

(01:46:26):
them any good now it doesn't. And people are going
to doubt their credentials, you know, in the future, and
that to me is shameful. I mean, I don't think
anyone doubted doctor Carson's credentials, right, but they might in
the future. If you're if you're you know, the schools

(01:46:48):
were going to pass fail you know, hey, if that
is not the way to go. I was a residency director,
and when you're choosing who you want for your residence,
you take a look at their grades. Pass fail doesn't
tell you anything, Sure as hell doesn't. You got a
pass failed?

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Doctor? You a heart procedure? No, I don't think so.

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Seven fifty KRCD talk station A Happy Wednesday for one
more segment here with Congressman Windsurf So moving away from
politics and talking about service to country. Of course, I
proudly served as country in America's military and continues to
serve in various capacities. And you also were able to
attend a rather moving event the other day, and I
know you wanted to talk about that, having you know,

(01:49:42):
served overseas in foreign wars. Congressman Winstrip take it away. Yeah,
thank you, Brian. You know you always do a lot
to talk about our veterans. I know you have Todd
Sledge from Cincinnati, BA and oh yeah, a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
A very good man.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
Actually, you know I served in Iraq five six and
the day I got the call that I was going
to be deployed. Until the day I got home. I
kept a journal, but in the past twenty years I
never looked at it until this past weekend. And I
did so this past weekend because the Eyes of Freedom
and maybe probably a lot of your listeners have seen

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the Eyes of Freedom before, and if they haven't, they
get an opportunity should. It's a beautiful exhibit. We lost
so many from Lima Company, Ohio National Guard in Iraq
and it's a tribute to all them. Paintings of them
standing around in their uniforms, you know, probably from pictures
that they had taken, you know why they were deployed,

(01:50:36):
and they have their boots in front of it is very,
very moving. And you know, this was at Saint Xavier
last night and we invited all the veterans from Saint
ex alums to come back and it was It was
a big crowd and a very moving event and I
was honored to be the MC. One of the things
that I can contribute to and say, yes, I'll be

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there now that I'm not in Congress because I won't
have conflicts come up my way necessarily. But one of
the things that I did because two of the young
men that were killed while I was there went to
Saint Xavier High School, so it was particularly moving out
at Saint x last night. But I went back to

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my journal to write to see what I wrote down
that day. I have memories of it, vivid memories of it,
but I wanted to see what I wrote, and I
just thought I would share that, as I did last night, Thursday,
August fourth, two thousand and five. The day started simply
and I prayed a Rosary to start it. At lunch,
on the way out of the dining facility, two rockets
came whizzing by, landed on the landing zone. We hit

(01:51:42):
the ground and gott in a bunker. I was with gaels,
parsons and brawn, Thank you God. Otherwise normal clinic day,
postops doing fine. Later I wrote fourteen Marines killed northwest
of here, Ohio National Guard. Pretty angry and upset. Today Friday,

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August fifth, two thousand and five, the news gets worse.
Twenty two marines killed in action from Ohio National Guard,
two from Sat next one with a seven week old son.
I received a letter email from father Die and others
about the loss Michael Sefuentes and David Cruder. God bless

(01:52:24):
them and keep them between all of this and the
incoming rockets. Yesterday, I'm sad, as sad as I've been
talk to Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
That helps some. Michael Sefuente's parents had said they were
trying to bring a better life to people that have
suffered too long, and Brian, they did, Yeah, they did.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
And you mentioned that the seven week old baby actually
spoke at the event.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
Who is now? What he's attending Xavier.

Speaker 6 (01:52:58):
Now he's a senior high school and he wrote a
poem that he read last night entitled Fields of Flanders.
It was a moving event.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Oh my God. Might imagine a massive allergy outbreak and
parents there, but it was.

Speaker 6 (01:53:15):
But it was a great tribute, and I would tell
you Governor DeWine was the keynote speaker, and he paid
a tremendous tribute to each and every one of them,
including you know more recent from Vietnam they killed in
action and Steve Grace and Airman, all Saint X grads,
and he gave a wonderful tribute to all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
He's capable of doing some good things. Yeah, it was
very good. I'm glad you're able to be at the event.
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
Uh, the wife of that soldier who was killed was
there as well. Yes, yes she was wife and parents,
so they're not forgotten.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
That's the thing we don't forget, right, we continue to
pay tribute. And I was pleased to have my son there,
which I think was he's eleven now, right, he's eleven,
and it was very moving and he even read on
one of the letters. You know, people write letters saying
if you're reading this, then I passed away, and it
was to his parents and this this kid had written.

(01:54:19):
I wouldn't change a thing in my life. I know
you're sad right now, but I wouldn't change a thing
because I'm here fighting for freedom for people that didn't
have it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
Jeez, well that kind of sums up the reason why
I do anything I can to support American veterans and
their causes. That's the type of people that we need
more of.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Thanks for letting me share this.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
I'm glad you did, man, I'm glad you did seven
fifty five.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
If I have ksty talks sees, you know he's got
a spot here to talk a former congressman one strip
and keep up the great work and I'll look forward
to running into you real soon, because I know we're
going to run into each other real soon. At that
event coming up, we're going to get the inside scoop
from Bright Barton. He's London Bureau Chief Oliver Laine. After
the top of the air news, followed by Judge Napolitano
at eight thirty, I sure hope you can stick around.

Speaker 8 (01:55:06):
News happens fast, stay up to date. At the top
of the hour, not going to.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
Be complicated, It's going to go very fast.

Speaker 8 (01:55:13):
Fifty five KRZ the talkstation.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
This report is spot well.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
I know you're on to talk today and you may
have to do a little explaining for the American audience,
including the host of the fifty five KRC morning show.
Not everybody's really clued or clued into how politics works.
In Germany. You know, we've got two parties here sort
of kind of. We like to call it the Uni parties,
since both the Republicans and Democrats do terrible things for
our country. But at least you know which side of

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the ledger somebody's on. In Germany, there's the Christian Democrat Union,
the Alternative for Germany, the Social Democratic Party of Germany,
the Greens, the Left, the Free Democratic Party, and each
of them got a share of the vote, but apparently
to some surprise, the Christian Democratic Union came out on top.
And I guess, can you explain to my listeners what

(01:56:01):
ultimately that means, because I know that the head of
the Christian Democratic Party, Friedrich Merge, didn't have some real
good things to say about the United States and is
wanting to sort of separate the relationship or you know,
divorce us or the Germany from the United States. I
guess at least along the lines of maybe economic lines
or political lines. But that's why we have you, Oliver,

(01:56:24):
so can you give us a little rundown.

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
With pleasure? So indeed, as you say, in places like
the United Kingdom and to the United States, we have
a two party system, and that has real problems, doesn't it,
Because if they get too friendly, if a consensus really emerges,
not what are you left with? You left with the
essential unit party. So there are advantages and DISI answers
to that system. As you say, on one hand, you

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know where people stands. It's a solid system. But you
can be left with, as you say, the blob. Basically,
the other option is what that you have lots and
lots of parties, and that's the case in many europe countries.
So there are advantages to that, which is that voters
are better served in terms of actually voting for what
they want. It's not well, you know, and imagine how

(01:57:10):
it was in the United States, say fifteen years ago.
You might not really think very much of the Republican Party.
Might look at them and think, well, these guys are
Republicans in name only, but I've got to vote for
them because we got to keep the Democrats out. Well,
it's not necessarily like that. In Europe. There's probably a small,
niche party that really caters to your interests very well.

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This is the case in Germany. The problem is because
there's a dozen parties or more in some countries incredibly
maybe fifteen parties in an election or vying for votes.
They come out in dribs and drabs, so that their
guest party might get twenty five percent and some of
the other parties might be there with members of parliament
at four percent or eight percent. So how do you

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build a government out of that? And that's exactly what
we're looking at in Germany now, where the Christian Democrats
who are the sort of you know, the soft right.
They call themselves conservatives. You know, I don't think a
political philosopher would use that word to describe them. Let's
be as kind as we possibly can, right, these guys
they're globalists, seno cons whatever. And they've come out with

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twenty eight point five percent, so let's just round it up,
let's say roughly thirty percent, So they're the biggest party.
The building a government now is in their hands, but
they've got to bring another party or maybe another two
parties on board to get those numbers up, then get
to fifty percent so they can command parliament, build a government,
pass laws. And they've really painted themselves into a corner

(01:58:37):
because actually there are two parties in the Border Stag
Germany's parliament, which could potentially do this job. On one hand,
you have the AfD Alternative for Deutschland or Alternative for
Germany for US English speakers. These guys are sovereigntist populists.
They're right wingers, they believe in border control, they believe
in sound money. On the other hand, you have the

(01:58:59):
Social Democrat to the SPD, that's like Germany's equivalent. I
suppose the Democrats. They're left wingers, and what the Christian
Democrats have done the soft right they have looked at
this situation. Their leader has said, we cannot possibly partner
with a party that's to the right of us, because
if you're to the right of us, if you're more
right than we are, you are a Nazi, Sir, you're

(01:59:22):
a bad guy. So we're going to refuse to negotiate
with them, and therefore we're left with only one party,
only one choice. We're going to try and do a
government with the left. This is what they call in
Germany a grand coalition. And can you imagine that a
Democrat Republican government in the US working together? That actually
mean It means the voters get betrayed. Because there's been

(01:59:43):
a clear vote in this election. The top two parties
in Germany are both right wingers. The people want sound money,
they want border control, but that's not what they're going
to get, because how are you going to build a
coalition like this. Let me tell you the CDU Friedrich
Mergy said his name earlier. He's come into the negotiation.
He says, I'm going to take away my own options

(02:00:06):
because if you have two potential partners. You can play
them off against each other, can't you. You can say
when you're at the negotiating table, you can say, look,
this is what I want and if you don't like it,
I'm going to walk away. I'm going to go talk
to the other guys. He's already ruled that out for
even sat down. Let's be honest. This guy is not
a Donald Trump level deal maker, is he. This is
a bad move or you even get to the negotiating table.

(02:00:27):
What else has he done? Before he even got to
the negotiating table, he said, Germany is in a bad way.
We have crises facing us. We have to get a
deal done quickly because we need to be able to
face these headwinds. We need a strong government. We can't
just spend six months talking, which has happened in Germany before.
They've gone about the government for six months. So that
again is handing over leverage, negotiation, leverage power to this

(02:00:52):
small party, this left wing party, who could be the
coalition partner. Because when he comes to the table, they
know he hasn't got choices and they know he's in
a hurry. So any concessions he's going to be making them,
it's the right wing, which is actually the main power
in Germany. Now it's the right wing who are going
to be giving up in order to get concessions from

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the left just to form a government.

Speaker 8 (02:01:15):
So this guy, wow, what a piece of work.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
Germany is in serious trouble because he's the chancellor elects,
so to speak. And we're going to see how that
unfolds in the coming weeks. But I've got to tell
you now, I think this is going to be a
pretty left wing government.

Speaker 1 (02:01:30):
Well the way you characterize it.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
And I got to applaud you for explaining a rather
complex situation in such a short period of time, Oliver,
wonderful job.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
On that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
I have been enlightened because I immediately figured that the
Christian Democratic Union would pair up with the alternatives for Germany, because,
like America, we woke up to the reality that we
were being overrun by illegal immigrants and it was causing
such peril to our social welfare safety net and the
city schools and the cities. And then I think that's
one of the main reasons Donald Trump got elected. We

(02:02:00):
shut our border down. That's down to a trickle now,
and they're starting to deport those that are here illegally.
I thought that was kind of a pop I mean,
obviously it's popular enough that the Alternative for Germany came
out front, But I guess they have been labeled by
the media as Nazis. Are they really Nazis? Oliver, I
mean they're not, are they.

Speaker 4 (02:02:21):
Well, look what you have said is absolutely rational to
a dispassionate outside. That if you had never heard the
thing about German politics and you were looking in from
the outside and you say, well, look the two biggest
parties after this election in Germany. The biggest party is
the center Right. The second biggest party is the sovereigntist right.

(02:02:42):
Between them, they have enough votes to make a government. Okay,
they won't agree on everything, but they agree on most things.
That seems rational, doesn't it. The very problem is in
Germany you have this these years and years of rhetoric
because the existence of the Alternative for Germany is an
existential crisis for Germany's traditional ruling class, the political elite.

(02:03:05):
These guys are coming along with new ideas, with new
ways of doing things. They want to change the constitution,
they want to change what it means to be, you know,
the modern German state, which is fundamentally a liberal, open
border's most multi racial country. Now that's not what Germany
actually is in reality, but legally that's what they've been

(02:03:26):
pushing for for decades. So for AfD to come along
and say they want to do something else, but as
I say, it's an existential threat. So these guys have
been slammed a mercilessly for years, as you know, as
the big naughty word Nazis. Now that has very specific
meaning and it's a historical term. And as I've said before,
I think really the only thing you can possibly get

(02:03:48):
the AfD on for being like like Nazis is that
they're Germans. But nothing else really applies. But hey, guess
what the SBD there Germans do. But the fact is
that we don't have the anti Semitism, we don't have
like the extreme like wild racism. They these these This

(02:04:08):
party was created because of sound money, because they want
the economy to run properly. It was years until the party,
years after the party was founded, even sid of thinking
about mass migration. But it makes sense. How can you
have a strong economy, how can you have sound money
if you have a state with welfare, entitlements and open

(02:04:29):
borders exact. The number of the number of theoretical claimants
is unlimited, then the cost of your welfare state is unlimited.
So you know, these things go together hand in hand. Now,
because of the emotional investment they have in the AfD
being evil, it's going to take a leader with enormous

(02:04:49):
character to be able to say, okay, actually, maybe we're wrong.
You know a fifth of all Germans actually back these guys.
This is a democracy. Ergo, this must mean something. And
I don't think Friedrich merges that guy. So he's going
to look at it and say, well, look if I
partner with the AfD, the alternative of Deutsche Land, this
is going to impact me personally on a social level.

(02:05:11):
I'm no longer going to get there's nice dinner parties,
there's no nice cocktail receptions. When I retire from politics.
I'm not going to get on that affluent speaking circuit.
I'm not going to make those millions because I'm not
going to be in the cozy club any I'm going
to be ostracized socially. So I think, honestly that's a
big part of it, because it's social death in Germany

(02:05:32):
to be something as gauch and as unfashionable as a
supporter for the alternative Germany.

Speaker 3 (02:05:38):
You know, it's just so amazing in a completely alternative
political setup that you just describe how many parallels you
can draw between what's going on in Germany and what's
here in the United States, and the ultimately it comes
down to narcissistic politicians who think more about themselves and
their own best interests than the best interests of the

(02:05:59):
people the country.

Speaker 4 (02:06:03):
Exactly. And this is the thing I always say about
when I'm pitching the idea of caring about European politics
to my American friends and colleagues, is that our civilizations,
our cultures are so closely intertwined. Just having a little
bit of distance, it gives you that crystal ball. You
can gaze into it and you can see in some

(02:06:24):
cases what's actually happening in your own country with more
clarity because you have that distance and you can see
things for how they truly are. And in other cases
sometimes Europe is simply a head of America in bad stuff.
So if you want to know what the radical left
has planned for America in five, ten, fifteen years, help
look at Germany, look at Spain, and you'll see it

(02:06:45):
at HD.

Speaker 13 (02:06:46):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:06:47):
And then you even't have time. We even'n talked about
energy policy. Germany shut down, it's nuclear plants, it doesn't
have its own and factories aren't running. Right here, just
real quickly, this coalition, this now left leaning or centered
left coalition that's being formed, where are they on energy policy?
Are they going to continue chasing this green carbon free tale,

(02:07:10):
or are they going to wise up and realize that no,
the world's not going to die because we decide we
need nuclear power, or we need some some of our
own resources like gas powered plants and things of that nature.

Speaker 4 (02:07:21):
Oliver, Yeah, Germany's a real mess when it comes to power.
You remember as well as I do, Donald Trump standing
before the United Nations in twenty seventeen, or was at
twenty eighteen telling Germany that their reliance on Russian gas
is going to cost them daily and the Germans laughed
in his face, and he was right then, it was

(02:07:41):
so right. And at a time where the global supply
of gas is being constricted because of the Ukraine War,
because of Russia's stupid decision to go to war with
Europe by Ukraine, the Germans thought, this is the perfect time.
There's never been a better opportunity when there's an energy
shortage for us to shut down a fleet picular power
power stations. And I guess the reason that because this

(02:08:03):
old coalition that's noun just about to leave government. It
was between two left wing parties and the center'st party,
and one of those left wing parties is the Greens.
And I know, being green, it sounds so nice and fluffy,
and how could anybody hate the environment. The thing we've
got to remember when we hear green, we we think left.
These guides are the most radical revolutionary socialists on the planet,

(02:08:28):
and they took the opportunity because they may never get
into government again. I think the German people, the way
they voted, they punished this outgoing coalition, punished it, and
the Greens were part of that. But they took the opportunity.
You've got to give them credit for that. They know
an opportunity when they see one, and they've wrecked the
power situation in Germany. And as you say, Germany's industrial

(02:08:50):
base is being decimated because the cost of industrial power
is so high. It factories in Germany are spending millions,
it's not billions of dollars extra and energy every year
compared to say their compestors in the United States, where
you have bountiful clean fracking gas.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
Yes, so this is a real problem.

Speaker 4 (02:09:10):
How is this going to get fixed? We just don't know.
We've got to see how it comes out in the
negotiations in the coalition agreement. But as I've said, I'm
not topximistic.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
Lunda beerchie Alira Lane.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
What an excellent, excellent explanation and breakdown for my listening audience.
I truly appreciate you doing that today, spending time with
my listeners, and keep up the great work at Breitbart.
I'll look forward to having you back on.

Speaker 4 (02:09:30):
Always a pleasure until next time.

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Yes, you worked on that, know it.

Speaker 3 (02:11:10):
It makes me wonder if if he went to chat
GPT to help him write that one, because I know
he didn't have a lot of time on his hands.
But anyway, Judge Edden of Polaitano, everyone's here in the
fifty five kosite morning showing God love him for doing it.
And you know, speaking about favorites, you this column you wrote,
you know, of all the columns you've written, this is

(02:11:31):
like red meat for Brian Thomas. I just I thought
this was amazing. I mean, you just spell it out,
you give the history behind it. But I know the
people are going like, but what what is it? What's
the you're talking about? We'll get to that. But loved, loved,
loved this. I think you did a great job. You
always do a great job, but you knocked it out
of the park. About the administrative state, this monstrosity that

(02:11:53):
exists behind the scenes, over which no one seems to
have any control, including our elected officials, nothing irks me more.
Then you get a sub committee of representatives duly elected
by the American people. They asked one of these administrative
agencies for records, and they metaphorically raise their middle finger
in response, like now.

Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
We're not going to give it to you. What the
hell is going on?

Speaker 7 (02:12:13):
This is the fourth branch of government, unrecognized by the Constitution,
established originally by that former constitutional law professor and former
president of Princeton University and former Governor of New Jersey,
Woodrow Wilson, who fervently believed that America would be a happier, healthier, safer,

(02:12:34):
and more prosperous place if we were governed by experts,
not by the people we elect, but by experts who
would be hired by the people we elect, and so
he created the administrative state. It's neither fish nor foul.
You can't tell what branch of the government it's in.
For example, Food and Drug Administration rights its own rules,

(02:12:57):
prosecutes sellers of products who don't comply with those rules
in its own courts before its own judges, interprets its
own rules and assesses punishment against them. These are not
federal judges that are nominated by the President confirmed by
the Senate. These are employees of the Food and Drug Administration.
Will put a black robot and call themselves judges. So

(02:13:21):
this entity that rights rules, interprets rules, enforces rules, punishes
violations of the rules, as I said, is alien to
the Constitution. And Donald Trump, God bless him, has had
enough of it. There are many, many.

Speaker 13 (02:13:36):
Of these administrative agencies.

Speaker 7 (02:13:38):
The CDC, the Centers for Disease Control that told all
of us we have to stand six feet apart during COVID.
We later learned that there was not a shred of
scientific evidence to justify any benefits from that. Nevertheless, that
is an administrative agency, and nobody seems to be able
to control them.

Speaker 13 (02:13:56):
Yes, the head of these agencies is nominated.

Speaker 7 (02:13:59):
By the President, confirmed by the Senate, but the rules
are written and forced and interpreted by bureaucrats who are
always there. Trump, by cutting back the budgets on these entities,
is trying to bring them in line or eradicate them.
I suggest in my piece which I expose all this

(02:14:21):
and expose the history of and it's not just me
exposing that a lot of people have of late, it
would be far better if Trump did this by legislation
than by FIAT. Then the legal challenges go away.

Speaker 4 (02:14:33):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:14:33):
As bad as these administrative agencies are they were enacted
by and are funded by Congress, so only Congress can
unenact them.

Speaker 13 (02:14:43):
The President doesn't want to wait for Congress. He wants
to more or less starve them to death.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
And either it was an op ed piece, or at
least I think it was an op ed piece. Well, guys,
was a Wall Street journal and they talked about, you know,
Trump inviting and welcoming litigation on these topics. He knows,
for example, that some of the things he's doing will
be challenged in court, and he knows he's even on
shaky legal ground on some of them, but he wants
to get in front of the court because hell, they

(02:15:12):
might confirm or approve that what he's doing is act,
is correct and right. I mean, we got the Chevron
case out of the Supreme Court, which you bring up
in the opinion piece. The deference that they courts were
required to give to the administrative state when it comes
to interpreting interpreting these rules and regulations, that's no longer

(02:15:32):
the case, I mean, correct.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
The Congress now has this.

Speaker 13 (02:15:36):
This court got rid of the Chevron case.

Speaker 7 (02:15:39):
The Chevron case gave the administrative agencies a leg up
prohibited judges from second guests in them and said, whatever
the experts.

Speaker 10 (02:15:47):
Say is so.

Speaker 7 (02:15:49):
So when the EPA declares a mud puddle to be
a navigable waterway, as absurd as that is, the Court
is not in a position to to deny doubt or
negate that. After we got rid of the Chevron doctrine
with this court, when the EPA is challenged, the challenger

(02:16:12):
and the government are an equal standing in court.

Speaker 13 (02:16:15):
There is no deference to the government. On the contrary,
the government must.

Speaker 7 (02:16:18):
Prove its case in terms of the existence of these
administrative agencies and whether they are unconstitutional to the core.

Speaker 13 (02:16:27):
There are two members of the Court.

Speaker 7 (02:16:28):
Who, in other opinions, have opined, as I have, that
Wilson was wrong, the Congress violated the Constitution, and they
all should go. That's a Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice
Neil Gorsich. I don't know that there's a majority for that,
but will we'll see. The article in the Wall Street Journal.

(02:16:50):
The ubed on the Wall Street Channel to which to refer,
talks about the president's ability to fire the head of
these administrative agencies. He is teeing that up to go
before the Supreme Court. Last week, the Supreme Court basically
said we're.

Speaker 13 (02:17:05):
Not going to get involved.

Speaker 7 (02:17:05):
They didn't say can and they didn't say can't. They
just said we're not going to get involved, and no
one filed a dissent from that.

Speaker 13 (02:17:13):
We're not going to get involved.

Speaker 7 (02:17:15):
Sent it back to a federal district court trial court
to address the issue. The President wants to fire the
head of the Office of Special Counsel. This is not
what Bob Muller did. It's the same name, but it's
a different entity. It basically protects whistle blowers in the
executive branch, and Joe Biden appointed this person to a

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five year term. The legislation says he can only be
fired for cause that his personal misbehavior.

Speaker 13 (02:17:44):
Trump attempted to fire him anyway in the courts put
a stop to it.

Speaker 7 (02:17:47):
In the Supreme Court declined to get involved. This is
symptomatic of this whole big picture, Brian. Are these administrative
agencies constitutional in the first place? This as Thomas and
gorsag say no, three more justices say it. Two thurds
of the federal government goes away overnight.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
Oh, you give me something to dream about at night.

Speaker 4 (02:18:12):
On that one.

Speaker 13 (02:18:12):
You're when you're not writing poetry, for Ingram.

Speaker 8 (02:18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
Now, going back to the heads of these administrative agencies. Now,
as you point out, there is a head of the
administrative agencies. They do get you know, approval, and they
go through the process. Do they have the ability to
stop any given regulation that comes out? Like the navigable water,
a mud puddle is navigable water. We know that one
got dealt with by I think West Virginia versus EPA.

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But in the fundamental losses under the post Chevron era,
someone can challenge it. It's a separate line of question
I have for you. But if Trump has someone of
the same mindset as you and I that these agencies
have way too much power, can they prevent any given
regulation from coming out by virtue of being head of
that particular administration?

Speaker 4 (02:19:02):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (02:19:02):
Yes, if Donald Trump were to a point, well he
has a point. At least Elden as the head of
the epas, Eldon can control what regulations the EPA comes
out with. Now, if regulations come out without the approval
of the head of the agency, I don't know what

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would happen under those circumstances. But theoretically, theoretically, the head
of an administrative agency can control what the administrative agency does.
But even under presidents as conservative as Ronald Reagan and
traditional as the two Bushes, I mean, these administrative agencies

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just continued to.

Speaker 13 (02:19:47):
Churn and churn and churn.

Speaker 7 (02:19:50):
One of the ones in Trump's crosshairs is everybody's favorite,
the IRS.

Speaker 13 (02:19:55):
They just they're well.

Speaker 7 (02:19:57):
North of seventy thousand pages of interpretations of their own regulations.
This stuff's not written by Congress. This is written by bureaucrats,
no matter who runs the IRS. Justice Scalia, in a
famous case called Marson against Olson, which had to do
with the establishment of the Special Council, the one that

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Bob Muller ran, argued in a dissent that Congress cannot
delegate away its power in this case of appointment of
a special Council. That can't delegate away its regulatory power.
Why because the Constitution says all quote, all legislative power

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herein delegated, shall vest in a Congress of the United States,
which shall consist of two Houses, etc.

Speaker 4 (02:20:48):
Etc.

Speaker 13 (02:20:48):
They can't give that power away.

Speaker 7 (02:20:51):
So if Congress wanted to say a mud puddle is
a navigable water would result, I would think in a
lot of them getting losing.

Speaker 13 (02:20:59):
Their reelection right bits.

Speaker 7 (02:21:00):
But if Congress wanted to say that, that is at
least as absurd as it is constitutional.

Speaker 13 (02:21:06):
But when some group of bureaucrats.

Speaker 7 (02:21:09):
Unknown, unidentified, unanswerable to the public says it and we're
required to comply with it, that's the constitutional problem.

Speaker 1 (02:21:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:21:20):
The other component of the question I wanted to ask,
in the post Chevron world do we live in now,
where there's no longer that immediate deference, who has standing
to bring a challenge?

Speaker 7 (02:21:33):
You would have to be you would have to be harmed.
In the West Virginia case, that's the mud puddle.

Speaker 13 (02:21:39):
The farmer whose.

Speaker 7 (02:21:41):
Mud puddle they attempted to regularly certainly had standing. He
wanted to build a structure within twenty yards of the
mud puddle, and they said, no, you've got to be
back forty yards. Pretty simple facts to understand, but it
resulted in a monumental constitutional class. The Supreme Court sided

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with the farmer, thank god. But it would take someone
whose oxes gorg someone who is actually personally uniquely harmed
by the standing is not always easy to find.

Speaker 13 (02:22:15):
I mean, some of these federal.

Speaker 7 (02:22:16):
Judges who are hearing challenges to Trump's refusal to spend money.

Speaker 13 (02:22:21):
This is another issue.

Speaker 7 (02:22:23):
Can the president then pound funds and not spend what
Congress is totally to spend.

Speaker 13 (02:22:26):
The short answer is no.

Speaker 7 (02:22:28):
But when these labor unions file litigation, the courts are saying,
you're not harmed.

Speaker 13 (02:22:35):
Still have the labor union. There's no harm, there's no standing.
I'm not going to hear the case.

Speaker 7 (02:22:38):
I'm not saying what the president is doing is constitutional.
I'm just saying you don't have standing. It is not
always easy to get standing. Madison did that intentionally because
they didn't want the federal courts to exist as monitors
of the other two branches unless someone was uniquely harmed
by what either of the other two branches did.

Speaker 3 (02:23:00):
Judge Jenda Poulatana, wonderful insight, wonderful and thoughtful historic breakdown
of how we got from Madison to here. And what
a wild he's rolling over in his grave and he
has been for decades now. I imagine, Yes, Yes, Judge
Jenda Paulatana, God bless you, sir. Judging freedom of course,

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your podcasts and your interviews, and I recommend my listeners
search for that online. They're all using their search engine.
Who are we talking to today?

Speaker 1 (02:23:27):
Your honor.

Speaker 13 (02:23:29):
Congressman Thomas. I was waiting for you to ask me.
You know, I also have Colonel McGregor and my other regulars.

Speaker 7 (02:23:40):
But at three this afternoon live Congressman Thomas Massy, and
then of course it's posted for anybody to see.

Speaker 13 (02:23:46):
When I announced this yesterday.

Speaker 7 (02:23:48):
I can't tell you the laudatory emails that I received.
Because Congressman Massy is.

Speaker 3 (02:23:55):
Coming on and the only no vote on that resolution
they passed out of the House yesterday, he has good
reason to vote no.

Speaker 7 (02:24:01):
The title of the title of my segment with Congressman
Massy is do we still have a Constitution?

Speaker 10 (02:24:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:24:09):
That's going to be a wonderful conversation, as they always are.
Judge Annapolitan a best of health next Wednesday, already looking
forward to it. As always, I'll enjoy hearing your conversation
with Congressman Massy today.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
Three.

Speaker 13 (02:24:22):
Thank you, Thank you, Brian, all the best to you
and to you sir.

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