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On fifty five KRC the talk station.

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Five o five and fifty five k r C the
talk station series Happy Wednesday.

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Some say, no idea, what's you know what?

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Neither to what Happy Wednesday? Brian Thomas right here, glad
to be and glad to see Joe streck Ory belongs
and glad to see the rundown this morning on a Wednesday.
That means seven o five The Big Picture with Jack Adverton,
Always love him and Jack on the show today. Democrats
and the Power of Pain. Of course, I think you
can read into what that's all about, bringing the government
to a shutdown, hoping that the pain allows them to

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get a win in terms of what they want. But again,
say what you want about the Continuing Resolution maintaining funding
at twenty twenty four levels. I understand why Congressman Massey
wasn't happy about that, but ultimately it strategically did work out.
The Republicans held fast. They had no the Democrats really
had no argument. I mean, all of the things they

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were angry about they put into place. I mean, this
is just the American people apparently saw this, and I
think the Democrats woke up with that reality. Why was
there the end of the supplements at the end of
this year. Democrats, that's right, one hundred percent. Democrats voted
for that. They knew, they knew that they were going
to win the presidency. That's where that came from. There

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is no doubt in their minds. And maybe you look
at Arctic Frost and other of the all the other
lettered agencies undermining Donald Trump and making things up and
trying to convince the American people that he was something
or as something that he's not. I don't know, but
the bottom line, you voted for Donald Trump overwhelmingly. And
of course those deadlines that the Democrats put in the
legislation didn't go anywhere. It's law. Just find the circumstances

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shrining this whole shutdown just be quite comical anyway. And remember,
in voting for Donald Trump, you voted for those subsidies
to end. I think, and I know the American people
probably weren't paying that close attention and that one issue
was not what drove them to the polls. But nonetheless,
Donald Trump did not campaign on extending the supplements for Obamacare.

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So if you'd taken the time to look at that reality,
then you might have been not a factor that into
the decision making on whether or not to vote for Trump.
But one can only logically and reasonably conclude that one
must assume that every American voter knows everything about the
outcome of the election and what that might mean. A
vote for Donald Trump certainly was not going to result

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in the extension of expansion of or Obamacare, most notably
with those benefits going to illegal immigrants. So anyhow, they
bring on the pain because of what they brought about,
and that pain obviously was the result of Democrats action. Now,
if you can't get your airline flight and those are
going to continue, these problems are going to continue, then
make sure you just don't pull your finger at Donald

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Trump because it would be unlogical, illogical, and unreasonable. There
you go, anyways, struggling to find something to kick the
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needs a reset. Too many governments. That's the topic of
the conversation. We'll get a little insight to that with
Donovan and Neilis we always hear from at seven thirty
on a Wednesday. That's happening today Adam Hardage, former CIA
ops officer. Wow, this could be fun. He's a combat veteran,
former CIA operations officer, nationally recognized voice on leadership, national security,

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and the future of America's children in an AI driven world.
He speaks a lot on things today on the Morning show,
the latest on the Jay sixth pipe bomb investigation, and
then one of the listeners brought that up just the
other day. They have video footage and the artificial intelligence
analysis of that video footage suggests that they have identified

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with ninety four to ninety eight percent accuracy that the
January sixth pipe bomber planner was a member of the
Capitol Police Force and then segue over to working for
the Central Intelligence Agency. So I'm looking forward to hear
what Adam has to say about that. That'll take place
at eight h five. Hold on cough button, of course,

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it's Wednesday, Judge enal Paula Tana reill be a controversial discussion.
Can the president disrupt speech? That's the title of his
of his column, and he refers to the President Trump's
son of the National Security Presidential Memorandum with number designating Antifhah. Now,

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as he writes, purports to designate the ideology of ANTIFA
as a domestic terrorist organization, directing federal law enforcement to
disrupt gatherings and well get rid of the supporters. Now,
he I think maybe overstates the designation because I counter
because ultimately it's free speech. And consider this Antifah a

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bunch of leftists. They have their Marxist ideology. They can
scream Marxism all day long, and that is protected by
the First Amendment the United States Constitution. And that's where
I think the primary focus of Donald trum or of
judgment politanist criticism of Trump's National Security Presidential Memorandum number
seven designated them as a domestic terri organization. But you
can't do that, he points out, and I think I

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agree with him on this. You can't do that just
because of what they say. But he said in the
column that government officials have I believe I'm trying to
find the words. Have said that Antifa is an ideology,

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not an organized group, and I counted. I said, listen,
I've read a lot of things which suggest that Antipha
is in fact an organized group. Now I do say
that I didn't break this down as much when I
was talking to when I've sent back my message or
my questions and Napolitanic God Brian wake up, because I'm

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sure there are people of communist Marxist ideology who support
and praise what Antifa is doing. Those people would be
speaking their mind and engaging in free speech. But if
you start organizing criminal activity, that's where speech then may
become actionable against an organization. So if you are organized

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together under the umbrella of a Marxist political philosophy, and
you engage in and coordinate criminal actions to further your ends,
the ends being the well tearing down in the United
States of America, that's your ultimately goal. So that would
be coordinated criminal activity under the banner of a political ideology.

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Of course, political speech is the most protected speech, so
you got to kind of blur the line between, you know,
criminal activity and just free speech. But if you are
organized and your organization suggests and supports criminal activity and
more and criminal activity is performed by these member members
of Antifa, That to me is really no different than

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any other organized crime. And I asked him, I said, well,
you know, under those circumstances, and I know you say
that they have been deemed a political philosophy not an organization.
But if that were not true, an Antifa organized and
in further and serve their goals committed. Isn't that at

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least rico two or more people together for the you
know againting together for the purposes of committing criminal acts.
So if you can trace the money and the organization
and the structure, and maybe some of the written instructions
or instructions that have gone out to the members of
this organization telling them to commit criminal acts, throw, you know,

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disrupt the police, hit the police, throw smoke, bombs, whatever,
then that to me falls into Rico no different than
if it was the mafia mafio. So the Gambino crime
family said, what's the difference if you label them a
domestic terrorist organization or you label them the mafia or
the Gambino crime family. The only difference is the political

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Antifa organization while you know, waving around their First Amendment
right to free speech, they're still committing coordinated criminal acts.
Under my factual scenarios I presented it, the mafia not
advocating for the downfall of America, but and committing criminal
acts in the name of wining their own pockets. You

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can label them a criminal organization because that's what they're doing.
The distinction gets a little bit complicated though, again when
you go back to what antiphile wants, which is under
the banner of a political philosophy implicating the First Amendment.
You know, the Gambino crime family can't claim First Amendment
rights to go commit crime. They're not out there advocating
for they're allowance for their being allowed to commit crime.

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So I'm going to get into that with him a
little bit. I hope we can muddle through that because
I'm still curious. He didn't respond to that component of
the question. He just responded that the FBI director, former
FBI Director Ray is the one who testified that Antifa
is an ideology not an organization, and I think he's

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the one that was behind Arctic Frost. And it's getting
ready to send back an email to the judge saying,
you know, just so you know, that guy doesn't carry
a whole lot of weight in terms of his opinion
with my listening audience. So that should be a fun conversation,
of course, Judge of paul A Tunnel one and eight
thirty Bob Wetter is going to join mister humanitarian himself
a Newport Bridge lighting and wish tree program. It's that

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time of year, holiday season is fast approaching, and the
wish tree has been a Bob Wetter launched this concept
back in the eighties. So you put a tree up,
you have little ornaments hanging from it. You grab an ornament,
you buy the gift that's on the ornament, you return
it to where the tree is, or you shoot it
right over to Bob and that gift goes to someone

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in need. So again, Bob Wetter is always looking out
for those living on life's margins in the form of
the wish tree. So, man, it's been going on for
a long time, and I'm happy to bring that to
everybody's attention. We'll do that at the end of the
program here again five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty
eight two three talk pound five fifty on at and
t phone. Well, the building and the government show showdown
survived key hurdle yesterday. It looks like the doors are

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going to be opened, but don't expect your airline flight
to be on time. That's going to take a while
to to sort through. At least that's what I've been
reading this morning. Stick around plenty to talk about coming
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with Bright Bart News Bradley j Jeffrey Pastor. Was that
really interesting that Joe got him on the rundown. He's back,
he's out of prison. He sounds like he's been rehabilitated.

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The criminal justice system always paid lip service to the
idea that well, in addition to punishing those that commit
crimes and to act as a deterrence for others who
might consider committing crimes, we get him in prison. We
can rehabilitate them and how often does that happen? Like
what never? Well, maybe there's your example. He said he

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did learn a lot about himself. He came to the
realization he could be a better person, and with the
assistance of all people, PG Sittingfeld who did he did
spend time with and apparently interacted with PG quite a bit.
So if you interested it all on that the podcast
over at fifty five care sea dot com. I wish
the man no ill will. Obviously he made mistakes, but

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in talking with him and you realize just the reality
of even being in a minimum security federal prison, you
don't have your liberties. You are limited in the amount
of time you can talk with your spouse, will your
spouse leave you during that period of time. And to
be left laying in prison, locked up, or even wandering
around the grounds, not free to leave and pick up
the phone whenever you want to. You're left wondering what's

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going on out in the world. This is the kind
of thing that why prison just scares the living hell
out of me. No freedoms, no liberties. You have a life.
You had a life outside of prison, and it continues
for those outside of prison. You have no involvement with
those folks that you'd love dearly, So there's your detern effect.
Think about that, for we might go ahead and commit

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a crime. Anyway, as I mentioned, bipartisan deal and the
government shutdown advanced through the House Rules Committee yesterday actually
late overnight. They apparently arguing back and forth for hours
and hours. So it's a fully believed that this will
pass with nearly all Republicans once it goes for a
full vote, and that's the next thing. So they're going
to do that today, they say the panel, which is

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the committee that has to move this out of committee
to put it to the floor for a full vote.
So they lasted more than six hours. Apparently Democrats wanted
some amendments. Amendments which included, haha, extending the COVID nineteen
era enhanced Obamacare subsidies. Hey can we add that on? Note,
how many times have we been telling you, no, this
isn't going to be an add on, We're not going

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to continue to subsidies. What is the point of this shutdown? Anyway?
So that obviously didn't happen. Well, they continue to dry
as far as snap though Supreme Court said nop, you
don't have to fully fund the SNAP benefits. Obviously one
of the lever points to get people to move forward

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to open the government back up. People were upset that
they weren't getting their SNAP benefit's forty one million people
get them. So now for the time being, they're not
going to be fully funded according to the US Supreme
Court ruling, which was not whether it was no elaboration
on the ruling. Court extended until midnight or eleven fifty
nine pm tomorrow. The administrative stay it granted on November seventh,

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it blocked a lower court decision ordering the Trump administration
to use some contingency fund money to at least partially
fund SNAP. So complicated litigation process, Supreme Court previously kept
the stay against that order. The partial fund order issued
by a lower court blocked that waited around for the

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full opinion from that court, which came out on Sunday,
thus lifting this day. And now it's back in place
because it landed in the lap of the Supreme Court,
which put it back in place again until tomorrow night
at midnight. Now here's where I think it's an interesting
concept because I always wondered, how could a judge get
involved in the exclusive purview of Congress, the power of

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the purse, the judiciary and the government. Lawyer said the
judiciary did not have the power to compel the administration
to pay for SNAP, and the funding lapse was poison
resolve resolved as Congress move forward. Now you know, okay,
you can make that point in court. Look, they got
it all worked out. Snap's going to be fully funded,
that's part of the agreement. But you didn't know that
when this order first came down. Does the judiciary have

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the power to order the federal government to tap into
funds that were not specified for SNAP and force the
government to use those unspecified funds to fund at least
in part SNAP. I hadn't run across to anybody making
the argument that no, that that interferes with the with
the division of the separation of powers. Clearly that was
in play yesterday, and it was noted to the to

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the Supreme Court. So they issued an order. The Unsigned
did not provide reasons for the decision, and again just
kicked the can over till tomorrow night at midnight. Basically,
also your air travel I mentioned and alluded to it
a moment ago. Apparently there's an organization out there called
Airlines for America. It's an industry trade group represents America

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and Delta Southwest and United They issued a warning that
you know what, they may get the government back running,
but it's going to be a while to unravel this
Charlie foxtrot that the Democrats unleashed on America, saying the
airlines reduced flight schedules cannot immediately bounce back to full
capacity right after the government reopens. It will take time
and there will be residual effects for days. Noting that

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with Thanksgiving travel period beginning next week and the busy
shipping season around the corner. And this is a shot
to Congress. I guess the time to act is now,
but perhaps to you, if you're planning on flying on
an airplane, maybe the time to act for you is
now too, because you may still be impacted by it.
The FAA previously ordered flights to be cut by four

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to ten percent. That was on November seventh. Because of
the air traffic controllers not showing up, flight reductions went
from four percent to six percent on Tuesday. Now they're
expected to grow to ten percent on Friday, notwithstanding whether
the government gets back open or not. They say on Sunday,
one in ten scheduled flights did not take off, ten

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thousand trips delayed. So I don't know whether Donald Trump's
threats to the air traffic controllers who've been calling into
work that he might have their job. I don't know.
I don't know if that ten thousand dollars bonucy promise
can even be delivered. I don't know where he gets
the money to say he can give ten thousand dollars
to air traffic controllers who show up A little problem

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ironing out the details on that. But they did a
survey approximately sixty four percent of travelers will cancel their
trip entirely. If cancelations continue. They say seventy two percent
of those survey would bypass flying all together in favor
of other forms of transportation. It's survey done by something

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called beach dot com. I laughed at the latter one
because I'd like to avoid air travel at all possibilities.
If it's going to be at six or eight hour
drive less, I'm driving, and that's under the best case
scenario with flying an airplane. So there are options to
flying on an airplane, so anyway, it ain't over till

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it's over. And it's not quite over yet. Keep your
pop going out and plan ahead five point twenty seven
right now, got local stories coming up, some interesting ones
as well. But I prefer phone calls as always, so
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fifty five car the talk station five one three seven
nine two three talk on five fifty on eighteen eight pounds.

(18:49):
Oh look, Tom's on the phone. This never happens, Tom,
Welcome back in the morning. She always look forward to
your call, my friend.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, first time caller, a long time listener.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right, what are the few guests on the what are
the few calls in the fifty five carse morning? So
that his his own regularly played sound bite Tom.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yes, yes, indeed, proud of that. If I'm on vacation
or if my phone goes out or whatever, the message
still gets out there.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Doesn't it. It does, and it's spreading, which is a
good thing, right on.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right on, and it should spread because I mean, we
we have we have seen another example of these idiots
doing stuff to hurt this country and to hurt the
citizens of this country. And of course, right on Q
they're gonna blame everybody else instead of you know, taking
taking the responsibility. I mean, why would why would they
take the responsibility? I mean this, this was a big

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screw up on their part. They failed miserably, and I
am I again I'm still hasn't been final, but it
looks like it's going to happen. I'm very glad that
the Republicans stood together and stood strong and didn't cave
in yeah to these ridiculed this demands. So I think
everything selling place this time for them to be able

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to do that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, they were able to because they took the one
out of any or any argument the Democrats might have had.
That's why, at least knowing that continuing resolution. While I
hate the idea of keeping Biden era funding levels, the
only thing the Democrats would have been able to argue
is if that continuing Resolution had some cuts in it
and they could screen bloody murder about five dollars worth
of cuts from government being the impetus behind them refusing

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to move forward with it. So yeah, sorry, sucks to you.
It was your funding levels, we're approving them. It was
your deadline to cut off the subsidies. There you go,
You're living with it. So sucks to be you come
up with a better argument. They didn't. They couldn't.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah. Yeah, And unfortunately, you still have people out there
that are ignorant enough to believe that it was the
Republicans that that created the healthcare crisis. Oh, I mean,
that's that is ridiculous. I mean, when you when you
pumped so much government money into something, the prices are
just going to go up. Yeah, it's you know, it's

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like if you if you go up on the roof
of your house and jump off, you're going to hit
the ground. It's that simple. And these people just want
to act like reality doesn't exist. If they say it's
gonna work, then that means, oh, well it's working. No,
it's not well and doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
And the part of the rus in all this, and
I've said it a bunch of times, but it seems
to be worth saying again. Because you get a subsidy
doesn't mean the premium that has gone through the roof
went away. It keeps getting more and more expensive because
Obamacare is a costs of failure. The money goes directly
to the evil insurance companies who the Democrats relish. When
people blow the brains out of board members and CEOs

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of evil insurance companies. But you know, the evil insurance
companies are the ones that get the primary benefit of this.
I used to work for Anthem. It's under a different
name now, and this when I when I left Anthem,
the stock price is like ninety five bucks or something.
It's like four hundred or five hundred dollars now. And
you know, I just I'm not I'm not accurate right
now in the current trading price. But the medical insurance

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carriers out, their stocks have all gone up dramatically. Why Obamacare.
I mean, there's your answer, COVID.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Healthed a little bit too, didn't it that you more
mandatory government forced things that us And as soon as
that happens, the price goes up. Oh you have to
have this. Oh wow, we're going to charge your triple,
your quadruple. Whatever. It's just the way it goes. That's
why we're we're you know, those of us who are
who are trying to get limited government, less government. That

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there's a reason for that. You get the government out
of any industry, the prices are going to go down.
Get regulation out, get ever, I'll get them out of it.
Let the market take care.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Of itself, you know, And that's one of the reasons
why at least you know when you when you when
you look at it on its face. The idea, if
you're going to get money from government, that it shouldn't
go directly to the insurance company because they have no
motivation to increase efficiency or lower prices. You put in
the hands or the pockets of the actual people who

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do have budgets, who do have to live within certain means,
they're going to allocate that resource more conservatively. They're going
to look out into the world and ask for an
insurance policy that's less money. Insurance companies out there then
have incentive to compete amongst each other because there are
a limited finite amount of dollars that the government has
handed to a person that they have to fight for
that person's business. How about a lower price policy that

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maybe provides better benefits in the guy down the street
who's offering something comparable but more expensive. Market forces. Amen.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
And if you want to go out and buy funions
with your money, don't be smirched the quality of funions. Now,
maybe mountain dew we could do without, but every once
in a while, funians coming handy those are some good snacks.
So I can't remember I got a kick out of it.
I've been meaning to say something about it because I
remember as a kid walking to school stopping at a

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seven to eleven and getting a bottle of popping a
bag of funyions like Gayla. It was part of my
nutritious breakfast. There might be a reason why I'm fat today.
So I don't know, just going to go anyway. As always, people,
when you when you talk to your friends and neighbors
and you want to explain things to them about why

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this Democrat stuff isn't working and you want to like
let them know what's wrong with it, make sure you
finish my saying, don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Brian.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Thanks Tom, appreciate the uh taking the weight off my
shoulders at five point thirty. Almost every single day could
hear from you. You know what I tell you. Don't
have to give Tom the five point thirty segment. Anybody
can call on the program five on three seven two
three talking Now. I'm a desperate but I do enjoy
the debate and the discussion in the exchange because I

(24:46):
don't necessarily have all the ideas to talk about in
front of me. I have to pick them. Maybe there's
something you'd like to discuss. I will discuss these stack
has stupid coming up next in the an absence of
phone calls. But right now I want to mention, since
we're tune laughing about a couple of Joe Strekkers' editorial
comments on some of the articles that he printed out.

(25:10):
Dude dodged a bullet Joe Strecker's assessment of this stack
of stupid article with which I agree completely. Thirty four
year old woman who was dumped after ten years of
dating says she's looking for financial compensation from her ex
boyfriend for stealing her child bearing years. Person Writing on

(25:31):
Telegraphs Money Moral Monday Advice column, she thinks the boyfriend
should now pay for her IVF or egg fertilizing after
he broke up with her. Woman wrote, he tells me
he feels at thirty eight is though he still has
a decade of enjoying his lifestyle and powering through with
his career, and he's not ready for marriage and children,
but he knows it has become a priority for me,

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So he is off here. I am at thirty four
eggs twitching ready for the marriage and parenthood's stage of life,
but unexpectedly single and emotionally devastated. I'm tipping into the
furious phase of the grief cycle because I feel as
though he owes me big time, and I want him
to pay.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
So.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
She had made some careers choice sacrifices to accommodate her
ex's ambitions. She claims they verbally agreed that he would
be the primary earner if they have children. Notably, that
never happened. She said, now I feel like these compromises
have left me vulnerable, and I'm seeking compensation. Surely he

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should have some responsibility for helping me mitigate the damages
to our plans caused by his change of heart and
broken promises. The columnists, it's like a dear abby thing.
It's important to shift your mindset from seeking compensation from
him to investing in your own resilience IVF and egg freezing.

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You are expensive, and it is natural to feel he
should contribute since you shared life choices of your timing.
But if he's unwilling, the legal system will not force
him exactly, of course, inviting speculation. Why hewse she waited
around ten years for him to move forward, defecate or
get off the receptacle. That might have been a conversation

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you might want to have with him. Yeah, he made
your bad. You lie in it. You missed an opportunity.
Had ten years to move forward with that one. You didn't.
Michigan teenager hospitalized after with a punctured lung after being
stabbed by a forty year old woman at a kid's

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foot locker store. Why because the woman thought the girl
called her broke after her credit card declined at the
cash register. Nineteen year old Sunnya Jenkins said she was
stabbed multiple times in the sneaker store. This in Taylor, Michigan,
happened November fifth. Court to police, forty year old woman

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was checking out of cash register when her card declined
and someone called her a broke b word. Jenkins said
she was merely passing the store and looked in when
she saw the woman yelling. She said she never insulted
the woman, but the woman turned her eye on the
teenager and started arguing with her or with her Corda Jenkins.
As the argument got verbal, she put her hand in

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her purse and proceeded to tell me she was gonna
shoot me. I did not see her even know I
was stabbed until after the physical altercation. She the woman
pulled out a kitchen knife from her purse, stabbed her
twice in the neck and once in her stomach and
once in her thigh, resulting in her lung being punctured
in the attack. Suspect arrested at the mall. Charges the
expect to be filed. Authorities also said that this stabby

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woman's children were with her at the time of the stabbing.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
Just away.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, where keeping it real goes wrong. I guess didn't
respect me or something. Yeah, let's just stab a random
teenager for a random comment. It's five point forty six
and fifty five kerse. The talk station covers cent back
to the stacker. Stupid. I appreciate this one, Joe Strecker.

(29:14):
There's really nothing to it beyond the announcement. Christine Pelosi,
daughter of Yes Nancy Pelosi, who announced her plans to retire,
is going to run for office. It's pretty much it
do what the heck? What's her platform? I'm running to
represent you San Francisco in Sacramento, fighting for consumer rights,

(29:34):
women's rights, gun violence, survivors, immigrants, and our most vulnerable communities.
There's your campaign platform right now. Isn't it scary that
someone can run just based on that name recognition, and
that Pelosi name may very well get her elected, notwithstanding
whether or not she's qualified. Walmart isition to statement after
the company was criticized for selling a T shirt and

(29:56):
a hoodie on its website featuring a graphic resembling a
Nazi slo T shirt and hoodie featured a graphic that
read white our paper beats rock. Fairly innocuous statement until
you see the T shirt, which is a flat palm,
you know, a Nazi salute which is towering over the

(30:19):
Black Power fist. Notably, the T shirt depicts a white
Nazi salute hand and the Black power fist. Sorry how
this made into Walmart's I have no idea, in spite
of the fact that they sold these pieces online and
I guess at the Walmart. We have zero tolerance for
any prohibited defensive products appearing in our marketplace. The items question,

(30:42):
we're listed by a third party seller and have been
removed from our site for violating our prohibited products policy.
When issues like this are identified, that's the That's the
big point in the sentence. And I think in the
announcement when they are identified after we've made a bunch
of profit before being identified to our tour, being brought
to our attention, then we act immediately to remove them
and strengthen our systems to protect a reoccurrence. So sorry,

(31:06):
your apparent Nazi white power t shirts are no longer
available at Walmike Walmart. Local boy made it into the
stack of stupid. Thanks Joe Greater. Since Saint Dad Amen
accused of downing twelve drinks at grandma's house and then
driving his wife and his three children nearly hitting a

(31:27):
police cruiser West Kemper Road at Northland Boulevard, Springdale. And
this is on Sunday Court to the police, Affidavid Ami
car amial car. Here's a new one for me. Hey
Amalkar Ramirez Reno so thirty one years old, more than
three times the legal limit. Cord to the Affidavid, his

(31:48):
wife and three children in the car had he had
twelve drinks at their grandmother's house. The driver was taken
to the police department where he provided a breath sample
of zero point two one children seven, eight, and nine
years old. According to the criminal complaints, he's arrested on
several counts of obi and dangering children as well as
obstructing official business. Now facing also multiple traffic offenses, including

(32:10):
driving under suspension and improper backing phrasing. Looked into the
Hamlin Kind of Justice Center. Sunday held overnight was nine pm.
Roughly he was scheduled to appear in court this past Monday.
Don't know what happened to Ramirez Reinoso. Something tells me

(32:31):
he may have worked a plea deal where they got
they dropped the improper backing charge phrasing, just left the
other ones. Oh you think that's what happened in prison.
So he's charged with improper backing. And let's just say
that my scenario did actually play out, because quite often

(32:53):
prosecutors will drop lesser offenses in order to get a
guilty plea on the bigger offenses. So they drop out
improper backing. He cops a plea the OVI and then
he still gets the improper backing. That's the way Joe
Drecker sees it. That's why we're gonna call it this morning.
It's five fifty five. It's desperate comedy right there. I
will acknowledge plenty to talk about coming up oh in

(33:14):
addition taking the weight off of me. At six thirty,
bring him account from the Hudson Institute, the host of
Charged Conversations. He apparently on his way to the airport
and had some topics he wanted to talk about. Brigham
brilliant he is, and I welcome him on the morning
show that'll take place at six thirty. Between now and then,
we have other things to talk about, including how about
making Ohio as competitive as Texas? Now? Is that? A

(33:35):
whole lot more coming up? I hope you don't go away.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Today's tough headlines coming up first?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
And do you Charge Conversations? Joe brig him accowns Charge
Conversations podcast. He knows everything there is to know about
energy policy and I love him and bring him on
the program. And Brigham called in in the last hour
said hey, uh, I'll call him at six thirty. Got
some things to talk about. So Brigham joins the program
from the Hudson Institute and host the Charge Conversations podcast
produced Hi Joetracker, executive producer for the fifty five Casey

(34:02):
Morning Show. You know how to get in touch with
Joe same way you get in touch with me. Five, one, three, seven, four,
nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to
three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phone.
Fast forward a one hour at a Big Picture with
Jack Adadan Democrats and the power of pain. As I
always get a kick out of a Jack, brilliant man.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
He is.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Something tells me he's going to bring history into the
discussion because the historian he is. Donovan and Neil Americans
for prosperity about ending the shutdown. There's an empower youse
seminar taking place tomorrow night, seven pm with Donovan and'eil.
Ohio needs a reset, and I alluded to the fact that,
you know, how can we make Ohio more competitive? Steve,

(34:42):
I'll get your call just a second. I saw Texas man.
They are on a roll as we consider whether or
not we're going to eradicate property taxes in our constitution,
ballot petition circulating around to be on the ballot next year. Presumably,
what will that mean for the state of Ohio with
no property taxes? Big question? Mark. I just kind of,

(35:03):
you know, kind of get excited and grin about the
prospects of our elected officials having to deal with the
aftermath of eliminating the property tax. I'm more interested in
what kind of chaos is going to follow that and
how they plan on ironing it out, since they think
they know inelected capacity more than you and I know. Anyway,
other states don't have property taxes. I think Jay's the

(35:25):
one that calls in regularly to point that out. But
over in Texas, voters approved three pro business tax amendments
to the Texas Constitution. From this point forward, Texas can
never impose taxes on capital gains a states, or inheritance,
as well as certain securities transactions. They didn't even have

(35:47):
those in place. But now the constitutional amendment is this
big giant red flat or you know, big giant banner
of open for business to the rest of the world,
most notably all the businesses now considering leaving New York.
Come in here. Water's fine, and we'll never go after
your capital gains taxes or estate or inheritances. We can't
do it even if we want to. It's in the constitution.

(36:09):
They would have to vote to change the constitution again.
So what an amazing thing. And they've got a budget
surplus already without any of these taxes in place. And
some are saying, whoa, what happens we' down the road
you know we're going to have when they're like, we'll
screw that. We're doing so well business wise, we have
so many people in businesses moving into the state. We're

(36:30):
generating so much revenue and taxes already. We'll never need them.
And if you put them in place, it's going to
be a big roadblock for folks. Maybe considering Texas as
opposed to one of the other competitive states, like oh
maybe Florida can. If Ohio is more like Texas and Florida,
might we get some of the businesses that are fleeing
New York. Big question. Now's the time to figure that

(36:51):
kind of crap out, Steve, Welcome to the show. Thank
you so much for calling today. Happy Wednesday, Yes, sir,
First of.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
All, enjoy your four day weekend coming out SAT.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
I mean, I'll miss you on Friday and Monday, but
it's just wonderful.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
For you to be I can't thank you enough for
wishing me well. I really really really need a couple
of days off. I just it's been a while since
I had any vacation time, and woe is me? What
Thomas you shouldn't talk for four hours. Psychologically, I don't
care how you would approach the show, but psychological, for me,
this is a weight on my shoulders. Twenty four hours

(37:27):
a day, seven days a week. I want to do
well for my listeners. I feel I owe it to them,
and I really take the job seriously. So there are
days when my brain's a little bit foggy and I
sit here and I think, oh my god, I'm not
quite delivering well. I kind of been in that mode
now for a little while, suggesting I really need a
few days off. So hopefully I'll be much more refreshed
on Tuesday when I come back. And Gary Jeff's going

(37:48):
to cover for me on Friday, and Dan Carroll's got
me on Monday, So both of those guys, you're going
to be in great hands. But thank you so much, Steve.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Those are two excellent hosts to fill in for you.
I wrote it by Gary Jeff Walker. I listened to
him on Saturdays because I'm three years older than you.
Have told you this before, but there's no reason for
you to remember this. I retired from full time work
eighteen months ago, immediately started doing menial work three days

(38:16):
a week, and that involves driving around, delivering and listening
to the radio. So I listened to you and and
I mean I always tell people when I delivered to
their house. Hey, you know, I'm a talk radio junkie.
They're paying me to listen to the radio, which is
what I'd be doing at home anyway. And I beat
nice people.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
And d d well be careful out there driving around, Steve,
because you got new speed humps for the tune of
seventeen million dollars on Gilbert. I guess, so there's one
of the.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Red I live.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
I live in Independence, Kentucky, and my driving is limited
to Kentucky and Indiana. Have us go into Ohio.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Just throwing a shot at the City of Cincinnati for
putting in more speed humps. But anyway to Steve.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Okay, yesterday listened to Jeffrey Pastor, and I remember listening
to him. I guess when he was initially running for
counsel and when when and when he was on counsel.
I forgot how well spoken he is. He he did
himself quite a favor by, you know, coming on the

(39:23):
show and talking for a half hour. Very articulate, very
well spoken. Everybody deserves a second chance. I really enjoyed
listening to him, so kudos to him. Got a you
know this happened to me last time I called you
to I forget what else I was going to talk about,
because you're talking about you know, New York and stuff

(39:46):
and Texas. But oh, here's what it was. The other
day you talked about over the weekend, you went over
a friend's house for dinner. How do you how do
you incorporate your sugar free diet when you when you're
in the situation like that, do they.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
No, no, no, no, I don't know. I don't ask anyone to
make diet accommodations for me. Ever, I don't even if
we're invite it over some place we know, period, end
of story. There's quite often there is no problem maintaining
a diet without being insulting to your host, while still
staying within the guidelines of the diet. Fortunately, I allow

(40:24):
some measure of flexibility. So while I say I cut
completely all sugar out of my diet, I will eat
half a cookie or something if someone bait homemade cookies,
I don't have to indulge in a full slice of
cake or pie. Dinner. Was you know protein and everything
like that can eat that. Maybe I just avoid eating
the potatoes if they're served or something. So yeah, it's
no big deal. And if somebody's scratching their head wondering
why you're not eating the food they prepared for you,

(40:45):
to say, listen, I'm on a restricted diet, don't be insulted.
I'm just trying to take care of my health. So
I think most people are really reasonable about that kind
of thing.

Speaker 7 (40:53):
You got to live your life.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Too, Amen, brother, Amen, thank you. I appreciate that. I
really do. Side Jim Keefer, good to hear from you,
my friend. As always, Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 8 (41:06):
He had listened to Jeff Pastor was on making a
round yesterday on Channel nine and Channel twelve headliner at
six o'clock. So he's he's throwing his thing with his
Pardon Pastor shirt on.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, I know he had that shirt on and he
gave it it's his pardon past And I wasn't really
quite looking at that. I was just looking at the
number that was below it, and I said, is that
your prison number? That's my pardon petition number. It's his
pardon petition number.

Speaker 8 (41:38):
Oh geez, I thought that was.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
His inmate number at the Federal lockoy.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
I did too. Now, I'm glad you cleared out one.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Of Well you brought it up. Since it's radio, no
one got to see what it says. He had to
watch him on Channel nine, I guess.

Speaker 8 (41:51):
But yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I thought he was wearing it almost as a badge
of pride or something which would seem very inconsistent with
his current message about it having been rehabilitated.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
I do hear Steve on Saturdays with Gary Jeff. He
does a great job.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
By the way, Gary Jeff's wife has cancer again.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Prayers, prayers.

Speaker 8 (42:14):
It's a different kind of cancer. It's it's it is
breast cancer. He doesn't mind. He talked about it on
the air. Okay, all right, but it's it's in the
other side and it's two they found two marks. Oh,
so they're going to do They said it shouldn't be
so bad.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
So I hope that is the case. And the one
thing that I've learned over the years with my cancer struggles,
and I know you know this with your cancer struggles,
one thing we all know cancer sucks. It's one thing
we can all uniformly agree on, but that what used
to be and pretty much a death sentence. They have
made so many steps towards you know, curing can breast cancer,

(42:51):
and you catch it early enough, it no longer is
necessarily a death sentence. I know one size does not
fit all with cancer diagnosis, but at least it's not
that oh my god, I got to start getting my
affairs together kind of thing. So prayers nonetheless for everybody
out there struggling with cancer, including you, Jim Keefer.

Speaker 8 (43:08):
Yeah, cancer sucks. But the real reason I called you,
Brian is that text I sent you yesterday. I seriously
think that this because of the city Council is basically
didn't change. I seriously think O street.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Car, Jim Keefer, you got to say exactly what the
text related to, which is leg two of the street Car.
Did you hear that they're actually going to move forward
with something like that, because I have not heard that
except from.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
You, No, But I know it's going to come.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
I know it.

Speaker 8 (43:40):
I next time I see Jeff Kramerty, because I do
know him, I'm going to ask him if that thing's
been brought up. I seriously think they're going to do
that because they've got nothing else to put a mark
on for this council in town. I mean, they've already
screwed up all the roads.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
What about speed bumps on Gilbert? Can't they hang their
hat and show that as progress or something?

Speaker 8 (44:02):
I don't know how I like to see how many
people actually travel Gilbert to put that kind of money
into it. I you know, I've been on Gilbert and
I don't think it's a main thoroughfare all day that
you've got to have that kind of How.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Many speed how many speed bumps do you get for
seventeen million dollars?

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (44:19):
I don't know. I mean there's enough of the Warsaw
and Glen Way and Dell High Pike and YadA, YadA, YadA.
It's a go to Chiviot. Oh you talk about speed humps?
My god, you know Shivo it's one square mile and
I'll bet you, I bet you there's fifteen speed humps
on Harrison Avenue going up through Chiviot.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Wow, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
It is certainly ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
I seriously think that they're gonna they're gonna approach this
and they're gonna find the money, of course, and you
watch you give them time to settle in and get
sworn they're not even sworn in, so you give them
time to get sworn in and move into the springtime
and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
And which the exception of one council member and nothing's
holding them back from doing anything. Swearing in is only
going to result in one person change on uncounts one
more Democrats.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
Well we're all going to get sworn into.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Oh, I know, but it's just moving forward with status quo.
But yeah, now, okay, here's more of a rhetorical question
or anything. Will Phase two of the streetcar project be
deemed existing infrastructure changes so they could tap into the
railroad money.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
That's a great question. That's a great question. But you
mark my words on today's date that I brought this
up because I my foil hat I put that away
last Tuesday. I seriously think that they're going to talk
about bringing out number two.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Well, it'll only give Dave Williams and the taxpayer protection
and I lions and I one more thing to chuckle about.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
And you know, Bryant, number two is kind of a
real kind of a tongue in cheek laughter thing when
you talk about a streetcar, truecard number two.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
There you have it. We'll leave it at that one.
Jim Keefer, appreciate the call and prayers for you too
as well. At All Cancer Struggles six nineteen fifty five
KRSCT talk station got more callers coming in and of
course bottom of the are with Brig McCown from the
six fifty five KRCD talk station, Happy Wednesday. Before I
get a Bobby's call, I just real quick here, mayre

(46:22):
have parvoll now refocusing the curfew six pm curfew proposed
for juveniles around Fountain Square on hold, moving over to
Short Vine in Coryville where they are planning on putting
a curfew there. Now whether this curfew starts at six
nine eleven, there's a bunch of different times. It is

(46:43):
a bit confusing. That was one of the things. Council
Member Mark Jeffries wonders if the curfews will confuse people
because I think you need to be clear to people
what the rules are at what they are not a
little tough for people to follow nine pm here, eleven
pm there at six pm here. I think we need
one clear set of rules. Hey, I find myself in agreement,
which is rarely happening. With council member Mark Jefferies. Bobby,

(47:06):
welcome to the program. Happy Wednesday, Happy hump day, my brother,
oh Gilbert Avenue, because they got some seventeen million dollars
worth of new humps.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
Well, i'll tell you what about it. Don't take off
the vacation time. You're the tip of the spear.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
We need you.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
There's too much going on.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, well that tip's gonna fall off and die if
you don't get some vacation from time to time. Bobby,
I appreciate your praise in that regard. Maybe a bit overstated,
I will quickly point out, but everybody needs an exhil
and arrest every once in a while.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
Well, you're leading the media charge here on a little thing.
It may be exposing the salt coup that we've been
investigating for the last four and a half years, and
it may go right into a black Swan event. You
got an awful good guest coming up in the eight
o'clock hour, Adam Hardage.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yep, former CIA ops officer. He's going to give us
the latest on the J six pipe bombing investigations, which
I think maybe it was you who brought it up
the other day about that video they have which I
think they've traced at least they believe they have traced
to a member of the Capitol Police. And wouldn't that
be interesting.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Well, it's a lot deeper and deeper than that, you know,
I'd say it's exposing the Salt coup because I'm questioning
a lot of different things. There are a lot of
things I do know, and the only thing we did
know was the identity of the suspect. We know now
And I tell you what I'd like to know, what
three of that are Intel Agency recruiser.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Well, of course i'd like to I'm looking forward to
getting all the information about Arctic frost too. I mean,
that's a well coordinated effort under min Donald Trump, and
you know, I mean it's at least with the Trump administration.
This stuff is being exposed and I'm not going to
ever be knee jerk reaction and reaching conclusions about any
of it. But longer you wait, the more the information

(48:53):
comes out, the more the puzzle pieces fit together, you'll
ultimately have a complete picture. And so far the direction
at that picture or the completed picture is looking. It
is terrible for us collectively as Americans. It's terrible for
the credibility of the US government, which furthers division. Right,
this is one of them. Maybe this is the goal

(49:13):
they do this kind of thing, Bobby, They intentionally coordinate
these activities. It comes out, and then we lose faith
in the FBI, the Department of Justice, maybe the CIA.
I don't know. But if I lose faith in these
institutions that I used to look up to, like the FBI,
for example, I always thought, YEAHBI, they're looking out for us,
they're all true patriots. Well guess what, maybe not. So

(49:34):
there's one less reason to trust your government. Now that
is not for me a problem because we put too
much faith in trust in government. We give them too
much power anyway. So maybe it's a step in the
right direction. But when you got the other side that
wants to eliminate this form of government, they want to
bring it down revolution or otherwise. Getting a population of
people who have been insulted by and awakened to the

(49:55):
fact that their government may very well be working against
them is not a positive step if you're worried about
the future of the country. So lots of unpackage here, Bobby,
But I'm willing to wait for the picture to be
completed before I ultimately conclude things one with the way
or another. And that is the direction that's going keep
the firearms to Bobby, six twenty seven fifty five. Go ahead,
real quick, Bob, real quick.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
Oh no, no one thing. I was going to say.
The algorism that they were using on the movement of
this individual. There's a whistleblower that identified her.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Well, maybe Adam said that. Maybe Adam will talk about
that at eight oh five. Hadn't heard that detail. Don't
deny it, though, Bobby. That's just where I am six
twenty seven right now. But if I have cares the
talk station otor exit od O or XIT no e
odor exit the conversation. That is a Joe Streker produced
podcast where Bringing Me Down dives on into energy related topics,
which you just did recently.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I know you're at the airport. Bring them. What's going
on at CVEG. I know the shutdown has caused multiple
delays and cancelations. Will start there and then we'll segue
into how is it the shutdown impacts energy policy? Bring them?

Speaker 9 (50:58):
Welcome back, Hi, Brian, good morning, Thanks for having me
on on short notice. Yeah, I'm here at CVG it's
bustling up. You know, the shutdown has dramatically impacted air travel,
as many of your listeners know. By the way, I
added one other thing to my title. I'm on the
United States Department of Transportation Advisory Board.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Wow, congratulations on that. In that capacity, what will you
be responsible for since this transportation? Will you be oversight
over speed bumps being installed in City of Cincinnati on
Gilbert Avenue? Maybe?

Speaker 9 (51:35):
Well, I'm one of twelve, and it's a diverse group
of individuals. I'm concentrating on infrastructure. You know, there's a
lot of overlap between energy infrastructure, transportation infrastructure, and you know,
looking for ways to improve mobility for all Americans. And
I can tell you know, had this shutdown continued any further,

(51:56):
nobody was going to be traveling at Thanksgiving. That's how
icy and unstable the ATC air traffic control network has
become due to this shutdown.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
But that's in spite of the fact that all the
air traffic controllers know they were going to be paid,
and they're deem critical employees recognizing that. Of course, the
job they do allows us to travel and engage in commerce.
And I mean, of course, in a very very very
important job since it's air travel and planes crash and
they run into each other.

Speaker 9 (52:25):
Yeah, and we were already well short of targets. In fact,
by this past summer, the Trump administration had hired over
thirty five hundred new controllers, which was their yearly target.
The issue has become that many of them are retiring.
It's a high stress job depending on what airport you're at. Sure,
there are smaller airports it's pretty chill. But if you've

(52:49):
ever sat at an ATC control tower or in a
regional center, one of the busier ones around the United States,
I can't you know. And I'm a recovering naval aviator.
It's a tough job.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yes, yes, I just remember the volume and still to
this day is the case. When I lived in Chicago,
that O'Hare Airport, it was what thousand plus flights every
single day. The place is just it's a steady stream
of in and out. And to be responsible for managing
all of that and all the lives that are dependent
upon your proper management of that air traffic, dude, I

(53:24):
wouldn't take that job if you paid me double the
salary they make well.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
And Americans are traveling more than ever, Brian. There are
some issues though, one of frankly is the airlines. You know,
out of CBG we fly a lot of the small
regional jets that dot on the radar requires the same
human attention as a seven forty seven or a much
larger aircraft. We've got to get the airlines to upgauge
their aircraft and actually cut back on some of their hours.

(53:50):
Right now, coming into DC, there's six or seven direct
flights a day, all on fifty sixty passenger airplane. So
upgauging aircraft is really important as well. But for the airlines,
the smaller airplanes are cheaper to fly, and they don't
pay more for putting ten planes in the air instead
of seven or six.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
That I understand. So they're maximizing profit, which I certainly get.
But at the same time increasing the number of planes
in the air by maximizing profit.

Speaker 9 (54:22):
Yes, and there has to be you know, there are
physical limitations of the system, so you know it requires
a concerted effort by everybody, kind of like it does
in Congress to figure this out.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Well, well, just like that, you are not holding your
breath waiting for this to come about. Are you, Brigham?

Speaker 4 (54:39):
You know I'm not.

Speaker 9 (54:40):
It's actually pretty disappointing. The last vote of the House
Rules Committee, which is required before the Senate pass building
can go to the floor vote today lasted until one am,
with every Democrat voting against on the Rules Committee voting
against reopening the government. It is insane, Brian.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Well, you didn't make that statement looking for an argument
for me. Brigham.

Speaker 9 (55:06):
I know, and you know, to be fair to our
Democrat friends, it's both parties, honestly, and you know this
is something I talked about in a recent episode of
Charge Conversations. Congress itself is failing to do its job,
and as a consequence, these are the fights and battles
we have coming up. But if we can't even get

(55:27):
together on whether a COVID era subsidy never meant to
stay in place, is suddenly a long standing government right.
I don't know about you, but I'm not betting on
fixing the deficit anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
No, nor am I. Did you got any chance, by
any chance to get to read since you are this
is your wheelhouse, your energy policy. The Jorn Lumberg's article
from The Wall Street General, China's green energy revolution is powered.

Speaker 9 (55:56):
By cole Yeah, yeah, I did read that.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I read the whole thing on the air just the
other day, because it is insane. We are killing ourselves
in the name of chasing our tails trying to eliminate
carbon dioxide. China is making billions and billions of dollars
by manufacturing the tail chasing vehicles, windmills, and solar plant
while using coal power to create those items to sell

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to stupid Western governments.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
Absolutely, and you know, it's a brilliant plan. And I
hate to give China credit for this.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh, I were really right.

Speaker 9 (56:29):
If I were ranking them for energy security, i'd give
them an A plus A plus. They are using, they
are using everything at their disposal to make sure that
they have the uninterrupted availability of power wherever and whenever
it's needed, as cheaply as possible for.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
The purpose of achieving economic dominance, for achieving economic dominance,
and part of that economic dominance is being well certainly achieved.
They're making a whole lot of money off of perpetuating
the myth that our exhalation is some how dangerous to
our survival, that that joke could be perpetrated on most
of the globe while the Chinese Communist Party laughs, their
collective asses off making money of it, and the word

(57:10):
has not gotten out until somebody like Bjorn Lumberg comes
on and points out the obvious, which I've been screaming
about for years. As have you brig him account this? Well,
you know, it's just frustrating.

Speaker 9 (57:22):
It is really frustrating. And you know, to see where
America could have been in a few years, all we
have to do is look at Europe, which is completely devastated,
its economy, its industries, self inflicted under this. Oh, we
have to do our part. Leaving aside the fact that
whether you have four hundred points per million or four

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hundred and sixty parts per whatever of CO two, you
can't voluntarily change the world. If the largest single emitter
representing China and India more than half a global emissions
isn't gonna play, even if.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
It's not would work.

Speaker 9 (58:03):
It would not work under this scenario.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
It would not, and hence the stupidity of the whole process.
Notwithstanding the fact of carbon dioxide is plant food. Bring
the McCowan and I tell you what man, I am,
from the bottom of my heart, very serious. I wish
you safe travels as I do for all the air traffic,
all the travelers out there. It's a dicey proposition when
there run enough people behind the controls that are monitoring
the airflight. So that's why they had to cancel and

(58:27):
delay a lot of flights. It's for everybody's safety. Although
it is a colossal pain in the butt bringing mccow
on podcasts, it's charged conversations again a Jost Tracker production.
Bring them account Safe Travels. We'll talk soon, I hope,
because we've got more to talk about about energy policy.

Speaker 9 (58:42):
Thanks brother, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Safe Travels six point forty right now Ifitch about kar
City Talk Station. If you got pain, you can get
rid of the pain? Forty nine Fich about Karsit talk
Station et Wednesday, Big Picture with Jack added after the
top of the hour news subject today, Democrats and the
power of pain. Bottom of the hour, out of and
Neil Well, he'll be doing a Power You seminar tomorrow
night at seven pm. Ohio needs a reset. And I

(59:05):
think about what's going on in the state of Texas.
I mentioned that before, and why don't we go in
that direction. Some of the legislative changes in the laws
in Florida are also unbelievably business well and resident friendly.
We could make Ohio more like that and compete. And
can I just ask this out loud? This has been
a burning question in the back of my mind. And

(59:26):
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist or
maybe a pattern observer, but we have all these the
rethink the police folks. It's been announced, mom, Donnie has
got this new chief architect, incoming staff member. He's just
tapped to be his advisor in this woke Democratic Socialist
of America inspired administration. He's got the woman who is
the architect behind his community Department of Community Safety proposal,

(59:50):
which is a one point one billion dollar program which
is supposed to send out social workers rather than police
department members of law enforcem to what is described as
certain nonviolent nine to eleven calls, nine one one calls.
And we all know they've tried that here in the
city of Cincinnati. This is a large group of folks.

(01:00:11):
They are not law enforcement officers, right, they're what counselors
or whatever. I am certain that they have passed some
political litmus tests, most notably in the City of Cincinnati
now run effectively by the Democratic Socialists of America. And
I thought of this group sitting around when there are
non violent calls and they're not doing anything, what are
they going to be utilized for? Maybe? Maybe, and I'm

(01:00:33):
saying this out loud, knowing how politically charged it might
be and how crazy I might sound, but doesn't that
sound to you? Maybe just maybe that they could become
the next brown Shirts? Those were political operatives for Adolf Hitler.
And I don't know my history well enough to know

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whether they were actually vested and law enforcement designated like
they had some legal cap I mean, you think, Crystal Knock,
these are just crazy people who hated Jews running around
killing and beating people. And when you enshrine that under
the under a government umbrella funded, all I see are

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danger signals. I pray to god it doesn't go down
that road. But you established this group of people again
outside of really of trained law enforcement, knowing full well
that they're all going to be basically political operatives. You know,
they may very well solve or respond or deal with
some maybe nonviolent nine to one one call, which probably
will ultimately result in having to have an actual police

(01:01:35):
officer come over and issue a citation or something, but
that concept frightens me. Vivan Gramaswami all over that. Right now,
of course, the number of the New York Police Department
officers is dropping and more and more expected to leave
because of Yes, I want to I hate the police.
Mom Dami who previously said that the police department was
a racist, anti queer and major threat to public safety. Yeah,

(01:01:59):
he said that, though I just quoted him. So the
cops in New York are really kind of concerned about
their future and they're quitting. New York Post just reported
the more than two hundred police officers resigned in October
ahead of Mom Dommy's election day, and of course words
circulating around that a lot more are cute up and
ready to leave. Vivik Gramaswami saying, Hey, come on to Ohio.
The water's fine here. We'll be more than happy to

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hire you here in the state of Ohio. That's a
good marketing thing, but it'll be better if we had
a better economic environment in the state of Ohio to
lure all the businesses and of course law enforcement officers
as well. So yeah, we do need them. And City
of Cincinnati gets the memo they promised lateral hires. Why
not start running ads in New York City? AFTAB Philip,

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Welcome to the program, Thanks for calling this morning. Happy
Wednesday to you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Thank you well.

Speaker 10 (01:02:48):
I just wanted to pass on a little bit of information.
I'm a veteran and I was recently stacked up with
enough of medical issues that I was going to pursue disability.
But VA and I hear that on the radio every
day then that you're a good champion for this cause,
and you know a lot of people in the know. Basically,

(01:03:09):
I want to try health yesterday and ask for my
medical records, and they told me that they could only
go back ten years. They started destroying all medical records
after ten years. Really, yeah, I received no notice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
That seems completely polar opposite to the direction we're going.
Because it's easy to store data these days. I mean,
data storage is not free, but it's comparatively cheap. And
the cheaper I mean it's cheaper today than it was yesterday,
and it's the damn sight cheaper than it was five, ten,
fifteen years ago. I mean, data storage is nothing. Why
would they destroy records which might very well impact what

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kind of healthcare you need now?

Speaker 10 (01:03:52):
Exactly and from the case in point, I'm also trying
to work on my father's claim he appears to have ah,
it's looking like agent orange exposure. We had no idea
until more recently. And luckily he was with christ Network
and all his medical records are available and online and

(01:04:12):
I couldn't retrieve those documents. But with mine. She said,
I needed to hurry up and get in there because
they're about to destroy twenty fifteen here soon. So wow,
I went down yesterday and this is straight from the
records department at Try Health.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Well, you may be, I mean that may be subject
to the Packed Act because they're going to compensate people
for for conditions that were you know, that occurred as
a consequence of military service, and the standard of the
burden of proof is basically minimal or I mean nothing.
The cancers, for example, are presumptively a consequence of the
service if you can just show a couple of minor things,

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so your medical records may have an impact on that.
But more fundamentally, I think if military records show where
you or your father in this case were stationed, and
they're approximately related to some potential exposure, and then they
automatically qualify under the pack dect. That's about as boiled
down as I can make it. And don't quote me
gospel on that. You're not getting a legal consultation right now.

(01:05:12):
But since I've hit the VA in often enough to
know that there is something out there that may provide
you some relief in so far as the destruction of
your medical records, you might have to ask try Health
about that. I don't understands. That doesn't seem to me
to be a positive development. So thank you for your service,
man and your father's service. We hear in the listening
once truly truly appreciate that, and we'll keep my fingers

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crossed that your situation gets sorted out. Coming up Jack
Atherton with a big picture at the top of the
air news, then Donovan O'Neil on Ohio needing a reset. Yes, indeed,
what's Donovan have in mind? We'll find out together. Don't
go away today. It's tough headlines coming up seven oh five,
and I think you five Kroc de talk station. Hey,

(01:05:55):
look it's Wednesday. What do we do at seven oh five?
We get the big picture with Jack A Jack aden
in my friend. It is always a real pleasure having
you on the show. Glad to have you back.

Speaker 11 (01:06:05):
I could not be more grateful. So, Paal, let's see
if we got this right. Democrats, the Party a big government,
have been willing to starve government workers and their families
and endanger all the rest of us, especially those who
fly folks, This is no exaggeration. Early on in this shutdown,

(01:06:27):
the Democrats chief cable network CNN reported that a quote
senior Democratic aide told them Democrats would not reopen the
government short of and I quote again, planes falling out
of the sky. Oh come on, our left wing friends
might say, that's not all of us. Seven Democrats senators

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after all, and one independent who caucuses with them all
the time. Means Angus King did after seven weeks break
their own filibuster. But folks, you know what finally gave
those eight senators the courage, the moral clarity to stand
up for what's right exactly, not one seeking reelection next year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
It's so obvious. And you know, Temmy, I have you
asked you this, Jack, And I'm sorry interrupting your commentary
because yeah, but you know, the rest of them, while
they're paying lip services this news guys capitulate, they're all
excelling a sigh of relief that they fell on the sword.
For the rest of them who also wanted the government
open because of the pain, They're.

Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Not paying lip service. They're being paid. It's in the constitution,
they say, But you could have put that in escrow.
A lot of Republicans didn't accept their pay, so no,
they're not paying anything. They never do anyway. This got
me thinking about what we discussed last week, Brian, that
a Zorin Mamdani and Chuck Schumer make life painful enough

(01:07:55):
for us, more voters might finally get off their posteriors
and vote Democrats out. But sadly, my friend, I'm still
not sure it works that way. When you beat a
dog the way for instance, the villainous Bill Sikes beat
his dog and dickens Oliver twist. That dog may at

(01:08:17):
first fight back, but soon the beaten dog becomes co dependent,
just like Tragically, too many beaten wives stick with their
vicious husbands or return to them because they feel they
have no choice. Amesley and I know we used to
volunteer at a shelter. I suspect folks that over time,
the more people are beaten down and feel pain, the

(01:08:40):
more likely they are to support anyone promising them a reprieve,
a reward freebies, even if the people promising the freebies
are the ones who inflicted the pain. Democrats caused this
painful government shutdown by refusing to support a clean cr
a continue resolution that would simply continue for a time

(01:09:03):
Biden's spending levels. Instead, Democrats demanded, among many other things,
like funding for public broadcasting. To come back, Democrats demanded
an extension of COVID emergency subsidies for their own unaffordable Obamacare,
including reimbursement for the care of millions of illegal aliens.

(01:09:26):
Democrats insist that's not true. They lie again, So why
does anyone believe them at this point when they know
that Democrats, especially during the Obama Biden era, have lied
to us outrageously Because the recent history of America is
the history of big government systematically destroying people's character. The

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people who founded our country had enormous character, courage, like
all the service people that we honored yesterday, Principles can do.
Spirit what came to be recognized around the world, certainly
after we saved the free world in two World Wars
as the American spirit. And I'm not just talking about

(01:10:11):
our leaders. Each of our ancestors who immigrated legally to
this country brought to an America an entrepreneurial spirit, the
very act of crossing oceans arriving here usually with nothing,
because for most of our history there was no welfare
all that distinguished us from the people left in Europe,

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Asia and other places where ordinary people were peasants or worse.
I'm not forgetting about the twelve and a half million
human beings sent to America against their will to be slaves.
Their character was as good or better than anyone else's.
But the second tragedy for people who were made slaves
is that when the Civil War finally set them free,

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government in many places kept them from enjoying the rights
and opportunities of other Americas, even when those legal rights
belatedly were secured in the nineteen sixties by both Democrats
and Republicans. The increasing trend since the sixties for bigger
and bigger government has made people of all races and

(01:11:15):
creeds increasingly dependent on government. Poor families were more vulnerable
than anyone, as we've often discussed, because Democrat welfare policies
destroyed many of those families by offering free housing and
other benefits to single mothers only as long as there
was no man living in the house. This was a

(01:11:37):
sinful attempt to make poor families of all races hopelessly
dependent on government. The second way Democrats undercut people who
aspired to join the middle class was by opening America's
borders to tens of millions of illegals, who could work
cheap at menial jobs if they worked at all, because

(01:11:58):
they immediately received wellalth fair benefits, even if they were
hardened criminals. Lastly, big government increased dependency by shipping American
jobs overseas, encouraging that with tax laws and other benefits,
shipping them to countries like communists China that paid their
own children and minorities starvation wages. This was particularly shameful

(01:12:23):
for Democrats, who were supposed to be the champions of labor.
The only laborers who thrived thanks to big government, at
least up until now, were government workers, including unionized teachers.
A big liberal, Woody Allen, recognized this in nineteen seventy
three in his comedy set in the future Sleeper. Woody

(01:12:45):
wakes up from a coma and learns that World War
III has been started by teacher unions. Efflection to victories
last week convinced Democrats that no matter how much pain
they be themselves inflict, people like Bill Syke's dog will
become even more dependent on ruinous socialism. Donald Trump is

(01:13:07):
trying to convince America that boosting not government but our
private sector will increase prosperity, family, formation, and freedom. Yet
the biggest threat to America Marxist propaganda peddled by schools,
news media, social media everywhere. This propaganda has dominated popular

(01:13:27):
culture for sixty years. Now there are hopeful signs, and
let me leave you with one, Brian. Have you seen
the studies showing that the number of young people identifying
as trans has been cut in half in just the
last two years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
It was a fad, It was a fed.

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
Like like pet rocks, and now we're getting away from it.
Even the Olympic Committee, i know, not just the American
Olympic Committee, the Internet National Olympic Committee said if you're
a guy, if you have our equipment, you can't play
with the girls. We're in a race, Brian, to see
a big government socialists can ruin the character of our
country before we have a chance to expose them. Meantime,

(01:14:10):
we have to win elections, and then we have to govern,
not strike poses and obstruct like some of our more
self righteous friends. We have to govern, and if you're
a lawmaker, that means persuading your colleagues that's part of
your job, or compromising to get things done so that,

(01:14:30):
unlike Bill Syke's Poor Dog, we won't be beaten into submission.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
What do you say, brother, I can't agree with you more.
And it's an interesting thing. I just jotted it down
when you were talking about the paying only single women
government benefits, So no man in their life meant that
they got paid when they had a child, I suppose
out of woodlock, so there was no incentive for them
to go after the man to get some child support. Now,

(01:14:56):
whether or not at the time that was proposed closed
because I can't go back through the legislative history of
the arguments over that Johnson era policy. But it has
the effect of undermining and eradicating the nuclear family, which
of course is one of the tenets of Marxism. So
were they putting that in there as a vehicle to

(01:15:18):
get rid of the nuclear family, at least among those
on Life's margins or was it really designed with this
altruistic motive. It doesn't really matter if he was the
intent back then. The ultimate effect has been an obvious one.
There are far far fewer nuclear families, and there are
now a bunch of generational welfare dependents. But it's also
fulfilled in the Marxist dream of undermining the nuclear family,

(01:15:40):
which of course encourages government dependence and reliance from my
perspective and from the Marxist perspective at least philosophically or ideologically.

Speaker 11 (01:15:48):
Yeah, that's why we have seventy plus percent of families
that have been on welfare, higher than that in the
biggest cities, without fathers helping to bring up the kids.
And by the way, I worked with somebody as a
kid as a bellhop, a black man, wonderful guy. The
two of us listen to jazz all the time, who
kids don't these days. Who told me that his wife

(01:16:11):
divorced him so that she could be eligible for welfare.
So yeah, it worked both ways. Out of wedlock and
sometimes even in weblock getting back though to government shutdowns.
Can I make one other points, pleeez, even though we
outlasted the Democrats this time, and I think we should
make an exception, however, to the filibuster rule. An exception

(01:16:35):
not getting rid of the whole thing. I'm not sure
that would be the best thing right now, but an
exception of the filibuster rule for clean continuing resolutions like
the one that's on the table right now, to keep
government open so we don't have to play chicken again
with children's nutrition and people's lives. If voters don't like
spending bills, we can always change control of Congress every

(01:16:57):
two years and the president every four years. The filibuster is,
you know, Brian, is just a Senate rule. It's not
something in the Constitution. You don't have to be no
stradamus to see that. Neither Republicans nor Democrats are likely
in the foreseeable future to win sixty votes in the
Senate anytime soon to break a filibuster. America is only

(01:17:20):
growing more and more polarized, and there's no doubt that,
of heaven forbid, Democrats regain the White House in Congress,
and eventually they probably will, they will end the filibuster
all together. The only reason President Trump was able to
pass his big, beautiful bill, which is about to set
the economy soaring and all the carping we're hearing, they'll

(01:17:43):
have to find something else to talk about. The only
reason he passed that bill is that Congress also has
the Reconciliation Rule, which already bypasses filibusters for certain budget bills,
but it's very limited. So why not extend that rule
and make them Erica govern again?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Understood? Jack, understood, And you just asked the same question
I've been sort of asking out loud in my head,
which is, wait a second, if the Republicans on their
own can change that rule, obviously, it doesn't require sixty
votes to change the rule. You know, the Democrats are
just tapping their toes waiting around to change the rule
across the board, like they did previously with getting some
of the judges appointed, right, I mean, haven't we been

(01:18:25):
down this road before, at least on a small scale.

Speaker 11 (01:18:28):
Yeah. Briefly, the history was that Harry Reid changed the
phili but rulee. Again, Remember we had the reconciliation which
is itself an exception. But Harry Reid went ahead and
he was the head of the Democrats from the Senate
at that time, and he changed the filibuster rule so
that lower court federal judges could be confirmed by fifty
one votes. Then Mitch McConnell, his finest moment, extended that

(01:18:52):
exception so that it would include Supreme Court justices.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Yeah, it's the reason we can't.

Speaker 11 (01:18:59):
Have another exception to keep the government opens. That's all
I'm asking for at this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Point, another little whittling away which leads us, I think,
to the inevitable Jack, which is getting rid of the
sixty vote in the obligation right now. I don't know.
I certainly live in interesting times, Jack, and you know
that's not a good thing to live in.

Speaker 11 (01:19:21):
No Chinese did, and they decided they wanted to put
an end to that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Yes, and they're coming.

Speaker 11 (01:19:27):
For us hard.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
They certainly are, Jack, add and always brilliant, always enjoyable.
Thank you so much for spending time with my listeners
and me on Wednesdays at seven oh five. We'll do
it again next Wednesday. I'm already looking forward to it.
And as always the best of health and loved you,
Anne Ainsley, and I'll look forward to next week. Have
a wonderful weekend, my friend. Thanks so much, Brian, thank you.
It's seven nineteen right now, fifty five careven twenty eight

(01:19:49):
thirty five kir CD Talk Station, Wednesday, one hour from now.
Judge Jenna Politano preceeded by Adam Hardage. He's a former
CIA ops officer, is going to give us the latest
on the January sixth hype bombing investigation. Spicy details emerging
on that. We'll hear from him at eight to five
in the meantime. Welcome back Americans from Prosperities, Donovan and
Eil and the shutdown. We've finally seen the light at

(01:20:13):
the end of the tunnel on that one. Donovan, welcome back.
I understand you're doing an empower you summinar tomorrow night.
You're gonna get seven PM. Ohio needs a reset too
many governments. Donovan, good to heav you back on the show. Ryan,
always a pleasure to be with you. Thanks for having me. Well.
The marketing signs are going all over the place. New
York obviously is going to lose a lot of businesses
they have been. The business climate there is awful. There's

(01:20:34):
some ad campaigns going on. Texas is throwing out the
big welcome banner and here, Donovan, why can't we have this?
Texas just voted to amend their constitution. The voter's approved
three pro business tax amendments, saying there will be no
capital gains tax ever in the state of Texas. In
the constitution, they also are going to have a ban

(01:20:55):
on security transaction taxes, as well as a outright ban
on a state and inheritance taxes. They don't have any
of those right now, but they've just enshrined in the
constitution they never will be. That is probably one of
the best marketing angles I've seen so far in the
effort to bring businesses in any given state. How come
we can't have that, Donovan, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I think we have a lot of that, right, we're
moving in the right trajectory, but we're not. I think
it's right. We're not marketing these things. And we also
have been doing a lot of this stuff in a
very incremental manner.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Just this past summer they moved Ohio to a flat
two point seventy five percent income tax.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
That's huge, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
That's the lowest in the Midwest, second lowest in the nation.
But you're right, there's other states. As we've been on
your show talking about before, Ohio doesn't exist in a vacuum.
We're in a fifty state Compact, these United States of America,
and each one of these states is competing for our
jobs and opportunity and brightest minds. And we need that

(01:21:54):
leadership in Columbus who's going to fight hard to move
Ohio in that bold direction, competing with states like Texas,
Tennessee and Florida that for years have been eating our lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Well, and you've talked about this on the Morning Show previously.
I know Americans for Prosperity is you know, along the
lines of your seminar tomorrow night. And you know, we
have so far too many local governments, thousands of townships, cities, boards, commissions,
everybody's got their own offices. Everybody needs to be supported
and paid for. It is extremely complicated. What is the

(01:22:25):
vision that you see? How do we streamline this process
and bring about what Americans for Prosperity and you Donald
Dannil are advocating for here in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Yeah, And I'm really excited Dan Regnold and the empower
You team and just getting to go back go back
down there tomorrow night and be a part of that
with their crew. Appreciate you plugging that with us. And
that's what we're going to talk about. There's this we
think about big government a lot of times brain right
as this monolithic creature that exists in Columbus or DC, right,

(01:22:54):
our state or nation's capital. But what we're wanting to
begin to shine a light on and this isn't We've
every fifteen to twenty years or so, this comes back up,
and most recently it's occurred started to have come unsurfaced
itself through the property tax crisis. The problem here is

(01:23:16):
we have the fifth most political subdivisions in the country.
What's the political subdivision that's your township, city, school, village, county.
All of them provide some services. Our argument is, Thoughbrien,
is there too dang much of them? And are we
actually experiencing because of how much local government we have?
Are we actually experiencing a big government crisis because of

(01:23:39):
the amount of government we have here in the state
of Ohio.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
And we're unique in that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Again, Pennsylvania, California, Illinois, New York beat us into Ohio
in terms of the number of political subdivisions. That's not
a group of states you want to be anytime you're
with California, Illinois, New York.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Something's wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Brian and that's where we find ourselves today here in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Well, let us kind of generally contrast how those states
the you know, Ohio, what are the worst in your
list as you point out, with one of the fewest
government states. I mean, how does the how do those
states operate and provide the local attention? And I'm I'm
an advocate for you know, the closer a politician is

(01:24:19):
to me physically where they live and what they see,
the closer they are to understand how the local issues
impact people locally. Nobody in DC has any concept of
how Joe Strecker lives in his neighborhood. And they can't
you know, provide benefits and ensure that his neighborhood is
being taken care of. They don't even know it exists.
So that same kind of concept makes an argument for

(01:24:41):
no more local government is good. So how does the
fewer local governments address the needs of people locally and
still work out to everybody's benefit? Donovan?

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
Sure, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Put to a state like Florida when it comes to
school districts, right, they are the single largest here in
Ohio consumer of our property tax revenue. Right example, we
have six hundred some school districts. Here in the state
of Ohio, each one of those run with by a superintendent,
a board of five school board members, assistant superintendent's treasurer,

(01:25:14):
assistant treasurer, a lot of administration, right that doesn't even
get to the front lines of education. State like Florida,
I think there's somewhere about ninety school districts. They run
them by county.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
If we were to do a similar model, which is
an unprecedented there are reports and studies that have shown
how this can be done. There's off and on conversations
about doing that. Here in Ohio, we'd have eighty eight
school districts, give or take, we had one per county.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
What we're talking about there is streamlining the delivery of services,
not moving it to Columbus or DC, but streamlining within
our counties to eliminate a lot of this overhead and
administrative burdens that exist that all costs tax dollars. By
the way, on the argument for your local elected officials
being accessible, push back to our friends who are out

(01:26:01):
there fighting the property tax fight right now alongside us,
who are also saying they want more local government. I
say to them, how many of your township trustees, county commissioners,
school board officials that you've gone to and complained about
your property taxes, how many of them have actually done something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
To lower that burden for you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Just because these folks are accessible, Brian, doesn't mean they're actually,
you know, conservative and delivering the kind of efficiencies we
want out of government. There's some things we can do
by consolidating, and that's what's at the heart of this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Well, and you know, for whatever reason, I'm thinking back
to Sheriff Neil, but he was really big into developing
the concept of shared services among the region's law enforcement
officers for the purposes of efficiency. If you have one
dive team that is accessible for all of the various
police departments, they know what to do, how to do it,
they're efficient at it, and they share that service with

(01:26:52):
the others. That relieves the other police departments from having
an obligation of having a well a dive unit. So
that makes perfect sense. This extreme streamline efficiencies in school government.
You have fewer school board members, you have fewer school
It could deal with some of the perhaps overcrowding or
undercrowding issues more efficiently managed property I see a lot

(01:27:12):
of pluses for this, and see what you say to
see how you react to this. Going back to the
whole property tax, if you end up eliminating property tax
in Ohio, and I know that's a train wreck for
a lot of people, but if you had county wide
school boards, allocating the resources to a single school board

(01:27:33):
would be a dam site easier than allocating the resources
to what you said, six hundred different ones in the
state of Ohio. If it's going to be centrally distributed
in terms of the whatever revenue is being used to
fund the schools, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Well, and I think you know centralization. You want to
be careful with that, right Yeah, you don't want to
move everything entirely to Columbus or everything entirely to.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
But we have to find a balance, and right now
the imbalance exists with the amount that we have. When
I lived in Franklin County near Columbus, the community I
lived in, I paid taxes. I filed income taxes Brian
to six different entities. Columbus City of Reynoldsburg, a joint

(01:28:18):
a jed, a district that we had a special taxing
district that we had there probably not a JED, a
special taxing district, the school district, the state of Ohio,
and the federal income taxes. On top of that, I
had property taxes. And when you look at your property
tax bill, which more and more that's becoming transparent, you're paying,
you know, for a dozen more levies that go to

(01:28:40):
all these different political subdivisions, all in a lot of ways,
right Brian, services we want I like police showing up
when my when there's an emergency. I like fire if
there's an issue at my home. I want to be
I want to have safe roads to drive on, and
I want to know that you know, if I choose
to send my kid to a public school, that it's
going to be a good education. But there is we

(01:29:00):
have so many of these entities taking a slice out
of our pocketbook. That's at the heart of why we
are experiencing the property tax crisis we're experiencing right now.
So many of these political subdivisions exist, and there are
some opportunities for consolidation, shared services, and other collaborative agreements
to bring that number down, and ultimately that delivers relief

(01:29:24):
to Ohioans and creates a more economic prosperous future, so
that states like Texas, Tennessee, and Florida stop taking our
jobs an opportunity and they come here to the economic
engine of the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
All right, assuming this concept is embraced and we are
convinced that it's the right way to go, doesn't this
require each of these individual political subdivisions to be willing
to give up their control. A lot of people view
these as their own independent fiefdoms, like police departments. I'm
not working with them, and this is mine. You can't
trot on my neighborhood, you know, burber Berberg. There's a
lot of that going on, and politicians typically act like that.

(01:29:56):
So this is going to require the relinquishment of control
by these various entities. What have you ever known a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Politician or an elected official, no matter how small their
political government is, to let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
No, it's near impossible. The last time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Well, here's the thing this I mentioned earlier in the segment.
This isn't a new concept. Right, If you might remember
some of your listeners might remember back in two thousand
and nine, we experienced an economic crisis, right, two dosy
nine experience an economic crisis. John Kasik came in as
governor fixed the state budget, and one of the big

(01:30:32):
conversations at that time was what we were going to
do about all these political subdivisions in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Reports were put out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Buckeye Institute Greg Laws and put out a great report
talking about this. The governor had an Office of Transformation
on that Auditor of State Debut's who I was working
for at the time. We went out and talked about
skinny Ohio and shared services. The problem, though, Brian, you
hit on it. The problem is the fiefdoms and these
folks who are out there who have their special district

(01:31:01):
or their governmental entity. And just like Congress, you love
your congressman, but you hate Congress. People love their local government,
but they hate the cost of it. We've got to
come to a reconciliation here because it's bleeding us dry.
And that's you know, the flag and banner we're raising
out there is that, if you you know, underlying this
property tax crisis is a big government problem and it's

(01:31:24):
not entirely in Columbus right now. It's in the villages, township,
school districts and counties that your.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Local government.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
And we need folks to get engaged and start start
asking for more accountability there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Well for those desirous of political expedients. Again, if we
embrace this concept and the majority of people are all
in favor of it, this isn't as if Columbus could
pass some piece of legislation that would streamline all these
various jurisdictions, they would have to relinquish that control themselves,
or the local voters would have to say we here.
Let's say I live in Simms Township, we agree to

(01:31:58):
merge with Loveland as a political entity or subvision or
something along those lines. It would require local consent.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Well, for instances of villages that local consent is already available.
You can go and get a small fraction of signatures,
put it on the ballot and let the voters vote
on that. Wouldn't that be novel Brian instead of and
that exists today. But we don't see that happening across
the state of Ohio because who wants to be that
parie in their community? Right going, you're going to abolish

(01:32:27):
the village. So there's a lot at play. I think
what we need to do is regionalize some of this stuff.
So it's hard to get it done in Columbus because
there are literally tens of thousands of paid lobbyists. If
the states would have passed alat a day abolishing villages
or consolidating schools, the outcry and pressure campaign from that
would be unbearable.

Speaker 12 (01:32:47):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
But I think you regionalize it. You allow folks local
in their communities to make some of these decisions. I
think there's some opportunities to reform. We've seen though that
the voluntary disarmament doesn't seem to be working because those
options are available today, but it's not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yeah, not in my backyard. Oh Donovan, you've got a
tough road to ho on this one. But that's what
you're going to be talking about. Tomorrow night. Seven PM's
the start time. You can show up live three hundred
great Oaks, drive the empower Youse, some in our studio,
or log in from the comfort of your own home.
It's empower Youamerica dot org. Check out what Donovan has
to say, and also hear from Eric Conroy, who'll be

(01:33:23):
discussing the time he spent in the CIA as well
as his run for Congress. They do this what they
call take twenty twenty minutes worth of information from him,
along with Donovan and Neil Americans for Prosperity. Donovan, hope
you have a well attended seminar, and I hope you
flush out some of these ideas and maybe we'll see
some direction or some positive movements in this direction. But

(01:33:44):
it's going to take some work at a grassroots level.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Absolutely always does. Thanks Brian, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Thank you Donald and O'Neil. Empower you America dot org.
And of course this conversation and the details will be
at fifty five kr seed dot com. Right now, it's
seven forty three at fifty five kr se de talk
station or Sharia Keller Williams seven hitter in which there
to see, which means cribbage, Mike, my submarine or friend.
Welcome back and a belated happy Veterans Day. Even though
I think I thank you yesterday for your service to
our country, Welcome back, my friend.

Speaker 13 (01:34:11):
You did, sir, and it was a fabulous day. He
had a speaking engagement on a local defense contractor and
it was what yesterday was should be all about.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
That is correct. That and remembering my late father on
his birthday. Sorry, oh real quick on that. I want
to thank everybody. Got like almost four hundred people chiming in.
I wished my father a happy heavenly birthday yesterday and Facebook,
and I was overwhelmed by the outpouring of love by
people who commented on that or otherwise responded to that.
So thank you to each and every one of you.

(01:34:42):
That was really heartwarming. Go ahead, Mike, I'm sorry, but
truth test.

Speaker 13 (01:34:45):
Admit to the man that Jerry Thomas was no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
That's what I like to think. That's why I felt
so good about it.

Speaker 13 (01:34:50):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. Every day we hear Tom's tagline
don't democrat very sage advice, and more often than not
they prove why that is such an apt line. Two
local instances. One's almost two days old. But I was
not going to desecrate Veterans Day yesterday by talking about
may or aftamp. But I will today during his campaign

(01:35:14):
once he realized how bad he dropped. The ball was
snow removal, not that it would have made any difference,
as you and Joe have been shown with how these
different neighborhoods voted and they're still getting the same poor service.
But anyway that the snowplows tracks will be laid out,
you can go to the website. You can see where
we're at what's been done. Well, it didn't happen. And

(01:35:34):
his excuse was it wasn't an insignificant snowfall. Well, what's significant?
Two inches, three inches, half a foot, it doesn't matter,
because you know, the guy that died in Bethel yesterday,
he probably thought it was significant, his family, the people
sitting on Cross County Highway, and I'm sure there was
one or two people stuck amongst the seven Hills of Cincinnati.
So once again, just an empty suit promise that he

(01:35:57):
cannot lead and have foresight. The other one who dropped
the ball and was out all over the news yesterday
was our good representative, Greg Lansman, you know, and the
headline was the breaking news was that Greg Landsman's going
to vote no. Greg Landsman voted no, the first time
Greg Landsman would have voted no matter what.

Speaker 10 (01:36:14):
That's not news.

Speaker 13 (01:36:15):
And he's once again laming about the thirty two thousand
constituents are going to lose their health care.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
Why is that?

Speaker 13 (01:36:21):
And you have laid it out perfectly, the Democrats put
it in you don't need subsidies if it's affordable, and
of course it was due to sunset anyway. So it's
got nothing to do the Republicans, and as Tom Apptley says,
don't vote Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
God bless you, Mike. Thanks again for your service or
our country. I appreciate you tuning of the program and
offering your thoughts and comments. Sandy to offer her thoughts
and comments. Welcome to the program, Sandy, thanks for calling.

Speaker 14 (01:36:45):
Good morning, Brian. Yeah, you do capitalize kind of offer
which the gentleman just said, snow removal on things. We
shared services in this regionalism that the previous guests to
was talking about combining counties or villages or something together.

(01:37:05):
You're going to find the services out. And so let's
just suppose you merged with Hamilton County. They've got how
many shootings every day or drownings, you know, there could
be five drownings and you got one dive team. How
are you going to do this this? And then you
if you're going to share services, you're going to share

(01:37:26):
funds and they're going to be you know, hands in
the pot I don't belong and money laundered to different places.
I don't think this is a good idea, and I
don't know how they got under the empower you. But
this is like sneaky socialism at a really low level.
And then you're going to share cheat you know the moneies.

(01:37:49):
You know who's going to get the most, but do
the least the same.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Honestly, I really don't. I'd see. I can't see the
future and know how this would ultimately work out. I
don't know how many people drowned, but how many dive
teams do you really need? Ask the police department that
if there are a number of drownings increases, they can
increase capacity for the folks that can investigate these Those
things are happening real time right now, regardless, and some
police departments are overwhelmed constantly. The city of Cincinnati is

(01:38:14):
down two hundred plus police officers and growing number every day.
They still manage to deal with it on some level.
Maybe additional resources like from the state will help supplement
see because there's more crime going on in Cincinnati. Maybe
you get more allocation of law enforcement resources in the
area that actually needs it, and you reduce the number
where there is no crime. There's not a whole lot
of crime in this neighborhood or that neighborhood need a

(01:38:36):
full contingent of your own police department personnel, if there's
never really any substantive crime. These are the details, And
I don't know how this is a walk towards socialism,
assuming you have the right people that are responsible for
allocating the dollars. When you're living in a government world,
when you're electing public officials, most of them malignant narcisses,
is only looking for their invest interests, regardless of political stripe.

(01:38:59):
It's a recipe for disaster. But this is a problem
we face whether there's six hundred jurisdictions or ten or
eighty eight, as Donovan O'Neil suggests. So Donovan and Neil
on Americans for Prosperity is not out to perpetuate or
increase socialism. In fact, it's the polar opposite. He's just
looking for some government efficiency. Now, there are problems with
the plan. As I pointed out, it's going to require

(01:39:19):
a collective buy in from all these local governments willing
to hand over the keys of authority, which I think
you and I can both agree probably not going to happen.
So we'll be stuck with status quo. But as he
regularly points out, status quo ain't working it's very inefficient
as well. Again, you're hearing from a guy who really
appreciates the concept of local as opposed to distant government.

(01:39:42):
Seven fifty six. It doesn't mean his problem, it's not
worth exploring. Over the top of the hour News Adam,
it'll i the fifty five caro ce Detalk Station. Happy Wednesday.
Bottom of the hour, Judge Ennen of Polatano. Everyone say
here in the fifty five Casey morning should I'm so
pleased to be able to welcome to the fifty five
Carseity Morning Show today. Adam hard by the way a background.
He's a combat veteran, a former CIA operations officer, nationally

(01:40:04):
recognized voice on leadership, national security to the future of
America's children in an AI driven world. Graduate of the
US Air Force Academy, he spent over a decade conducting
sensitive A covert operations in the Middle East in Europe.
He speaks multiple languages. He deployed six times to Iraq
and Afghanistan and gained first hand insight into geopolitical strategy,
psychological warfare, and the cost of freedom. Also a big

(01:40:27):
proponent of teaching children to swim in the sense of
developing their cognitive ability so they can survive in this
ever changing world. His mission is to equip parents with
young America, with young Americans with the resilience, courage, and
clarity needed to thrive in this changing world. Adam Hartage,
Welcome to the fifty five Caarisee Mornings Show, and thank
you so much for your service to our country.

Speaker 12 (01:40:47):
Wow, what an introduction, Brian, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Thank you. That's more more than gracious, no happy to
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
And your background is just it's such an outstanding background
to talk about January sixth from the perspective of someone
who like a dear dear friend of mine who spent
ten years in America's military doing pyop work. He can
rave a weed fly, that's syop, that's SiO, that's black Swan,
and I mean it's it's it's almost like, well, you
sound like a conspiracy theory, but there are trained people

(01:41:16):
like yourself that are just that, that engage in these
operations for the purpose of achieving a political goal. So
what you're seeing with your own eyes isn't necessarily what
it really is. It's designed with a broader, larger purpose.
Your suggestion, perhaps JA six is one of those type
of events.

Speaker 12 (01:41:33):
Yeah, well, you know, it's interesting. I was there at
January sixth, I work with my wife and a couple
of friends of ours, and it was a really I
have to say, the word I would use is lovely,
lovely group of people, you know, like patriotic Americans like
and I remember as we march from the Washington Monumentopolis
down towards the Capitol, there's a very family, you know

(01:41:56):
type friendly sitting where you had literally, you know, kids
and strollers being pushed along.

Speaker 6 (01:42:01):
But what was.

Speaker 12 (01:42:01):
Really the thing that really kind of stuck out like
a sore thumb were what appeared to be like these
kind of professional educators that would try and get the
crowd worked up, and you know, it just didn't fit
the vibe and it didn't fit the people who were there.
And I remember at the time thinking, man, this stinks
something that they're like, there's I think there's some shady

(01:42:22):
stuff going on here. But we none of us, none
of us thought that it might be that air quotes
bed you know what I mean, like two hundred and
fifty FBI agents planet in there. And this was back
in the day when I think, you know, all Americans
really thought that we were still on the same side,
the same kind of page, and that it wasn't really
a politics and party over you know, patriotism and duty

(01:42:46):
kind of situation. But man, later with the pipe bomber
stuff that's come out and you find out she's allegedly,
you know, a capital police officer. I mean, I this
stuff is just smacks of everything that the deep state
became under. You know, I would say the last twenty
plus years where the gloves really came off after nine
to eleven. When I say the gloves, I mean the

(01:43:06):
gloves as far as you know, tightening its restrictions on
American people and surveillance state, and you know, the Patriot
Act was supposed to be temporary and all these other things.
So you had a lot of a lot of sort
of free reign with very little oversight, and that's how
you ended up, in my opinion, with things like crossfire, hurricanes,
and you know, the Russia Russia Russia stuff and fast

(01:43:29):
and furious, and I mean, it just it's really it's
really sad what the political landscape has turned into with
the DC crowd. You know, John Adams said that our
constitution in our country are basically only as strong as
the morality of its people. And you know, the Constitution
is not fit or anything other than moral people. And

(01:43:51):
I really see how far we've fallen as a country,
and it just it really concerns me to no end.
And that's literally why I wrote the book The Alpha Blueprint,
about guiding this next generation, helping them see truth in
the world that's designed to lie to them and manipulate them. Well,
you know, yeah, go ahead, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
No, I know I agree with everything you say. There's
no arguing yet. I mean, you think about the Steele DOSSI,
a false made up designed to undermine Donald Trump's Donald
Trump even being elected president. After that, then they use
that to perpetuate this impeachment RUSSA Russia, Russia. Now we
find out about Arctic frost. Now we see that maybe,
just maybe, a Capital Security Police officer presently identified as

(01:44:33):
a woman named Shawnie Kirkhoff may have been the one
who planted the bombs. And that's important in terms of timing,
because this whole J six thing turned into Oh my god,
Donald Trump caused chaos and violence. His goal was to
undermine the election and interfere with it. It's an impeachable defense
and everything. And I've just looked at it as and
you were there at I mean, you just pointed out

(01:44:54):
what I've always thought. It was a peaceful gathering pretty
far distance from the Capitol. Most people were just there
and they decided to walk down And if you listen
to the speech, Donald Trump didn't encourage them to take
over break into the Capitol at no single time. In fact,
we just find out they've had to. You know, BBC
had to apologize for doctoring his speech to make it

(01:45:15):
appear as though he sounded that way. There's no evidence
of it and there never was, so that's right.

Speaker 12 (01:45:21):
In fact, I was there when he said We're going
to peacefully and patriotically go down there and make our
voices heard, you know, And I'm like that. It's just
amazing how dishonest media is. And you know, the reason
why my former employer, the CIA, came up with the
term conspiracy theorists is to discredit anyone through which question

(01:45:43):
the narrative. And so whether it's the JFK thing, you know,
tower seven falling on its own after nine to eleven
WMD in Iraq, I mean, it's I go into this
kind of stuff in the book because I was a
product of.

Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
The Global War on Terror.

Speaker 12 (01:45:58):
You know, it's a young military officer or when nine
to eleven happened and I wanted to go fight everybody,
and I did, and then you know, lo and behold,
twenty years later, it's kind of become clear to me
that we were manipulated by our own country and sent
to go do some pretty you know, pretty dangerous stuff,
and we lost a whole bunch of people all for

(01:46:21):
for what for some political motives of politicians. I mean,
it's just it's unacceptable. It's it's unethical, it's immoral, it's illegal,
it's unconstitutional. I mean I I I expect more from
our leaders. And you know, that's what I'm trying to
do is say, okay, well we've seen what we've seen
a bad example of what shouldn't be. Now, how do

(01:46:44):
we pick up the ashes of what's left young kids,
and how do we guide you into a world that's
you know, going to give you a best shot at
being that upstanding, good, moral American citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
And I certainly applaud those efforts. We certainly need them
right now given this division that is being fostered, and
encourage the Alpha Blueprint, Preparing for the Next Generation, for
an AI future the name of Adam Hardin's book. My
concern is this now, amid all the backdrop that we
just sort of briefly summarized all these things that caused
me a you know, I love American I love America
and what it stands for someone who believes in our country,

(01:47:17):
But now is really having problem with these institutions that
we used to look up to, the FBI, the CIA,
the DJ This has created a well, a perception we
can't count our own government. Doesn't this serve the interest
of those who seek to undermine us these revelations. I mean,
we're already divided. The goal of Marxist is of course,

(01:47:39):
the divide is so completely't we aren't even willing to
fight for our own country. Why would I be willing
to fight for a country who's who's weaponized departments within
government against my political philosophy?

Speaker 12 (01:47:51):
Yeah, I mean it's it's you raise an extremely valid points.
You know, I actually was fired from the CIA back
in twenty in early twenty seventeen after Trump forty five
came into office, and I had raised some serious concerns
with the way that the agency was acting towards I

(01:48:15):
shouldn't say the agency, I should say the outgoing director
brand who is now under indictment. The way he was
acting towards an incoming president, and I thought that he
was not serving the best interest of the office, the
oath of office which he had taken. And I was
showing the door rather quickly, which was just you know,

(01:48:36):
a symptom of the time that we were in. And
so what was interesting is this is right about the
same time my old boss, General Mike Flynn, who I
started out in the Defends Intelligence Agency before I went
over to CIA, and he was my old boss, you know,
America's general and I stood by his side when and
it was very clear to me in twenty seventeen that

(01:49:00):
he was being targeted, you know, as the National Security
Advisor is the brand new National Security Advisor, that he
was being targeted and housted politically, And that's exactly what
happened to him. And I mean that's I was very
blessed that he was willing to write the ford for
my book and endorse it, you know, nine years later
or eight years later, because I stood by his side.
But it was a very lonely time for people like

(01:49:23):
General Flynn and myself, you know, as we were literally
crushed by the deep state, and you know, I mean
I was like, I don't understand. I've I've been to
four wars, I've given twenty years of my life, I've
given everything that I have.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
I have literally.

Speaker 12 (01:49:36):
Landed at night in the battle, you know, in the
backyard of bad guy's compounds, going in to either do
bad things to them or you know, put them in
custody and take them to justice.

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
But I'm like, what what was all that for?

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
You know?

Speaker 12 (01:49:53):
And and when you look at that, and you really
just end up being disgusted with your leadership, and you
can either kind of crumble under a rock and you know,
let the bad guys win, which is kind of like
exect what you're saying. That's what you know, Marxism and
Communism would want. But instead, you know, what I decided
to do is just you know, be the god fearing, spiritual,

(01:50:13):
hopeful man that I am and say, okay, well, you
know understanding how the world really really really works now
and I don't think what we're seeing today is probably
any different than what they've seen over the last thousands
of years. That humanity has been around. I think the
world just works that way. But within that, how do
we operate where we cannot just survive but thrive? And

(01:50:35):
that's where I look towards, you know, divinity and embracing
our own individual God given talents and creativity and finding
our own way outside of the proverbial matrix. And so
I go into a lot of that in the book
as well. But we live in very, very strange.

Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
Times where.

Speaker 12 (01:50:56):
Reality can be manipulated faster than you can and scroll
uh on your Instagram feed from one post to the next.

Speaker 5 (01:51:05):
They can literally they.

Speaker 12 (01:51:06):
Can literally change it in real time. And I shouldn't
even say day because it's not even days anymore. It's
all machines and it's automation now. So whereas ten years
ago it was it required humans to call Mark Zuckerberg
and say, hey, you are going to censor any conservatives
or you are going to censor all.

Speaker 5 (01:51:24):
Of these companies, right you?

Speaker 12 (01:51:26):
In fact, I mean I was also caught up in
that fish in that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
Yeah, we have the FBI situated in offices over at
Facebook for example, doing just that.

Speaker 12 (01:51:38):
I know, like the the most unbelievable, the most incredible
overreach of government power.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
And I mean you.

Speaker 12 (01:51:47):
Want to talk about violations of you know, Fourth Amendment
with Americans, right, you know, uh like protecting against the
lawful search and seizure. I mean you got freedom of
speech was completely crushed, and if you stepped outside of
the COVID narrative, for example, you were absolutely destroyed. I
was running a company at the time. Ironically it happened

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to be a telehealth company called Remote Health Solutions, and
I went up, I went out, spoke out against the
COVID narrative, and we were canceled on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Google,
We couldn't run ads, we lost our commercial insurance, we
lost every single one of our Defense Department contracts that
we had won at the time. I mean, destroy just

(01:52:30):
goes on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
It was.

Speaker 12 (01:52:31):
It was ad nauseam until they literally destroyed my company.
So I'm like, great, I've been fired from the CIA.
I started a company three years later they destroyed that.
I'm like, at what point, you know, am I going
to stop being you know, pushed around, just for for
standing up for literally the os of office that I took.

Speaker 2 (01:52:50):
And you go back to air Colders, Justice Department of
Operation choke hold. Legitimate businesses were told that, the banks
were told do not work with them, or you were
going to get a compliant and saught it. We're going
to climb through your books and records with a fine
tooth comb. Do you want that? Do you want to
lawyer up and prepare for that? Or you want to
just quit doing business with this particular entity. Atrocious abuse

(01:53:11):
of power, just one of many that Adam Harden could
probably go on ad nausema back, get a copy of
the Alpha Blueprint his book and learn more. But going
really quickly here back to Jay sixth. Now we've identified,
or they have tentatively identified this SHAWNE. Kirkhoff Capitol police officers,
the person who planted the bombs. Now it's not one
hundred percent certain. Artificial intelligence looking at her gate and
her image and all that seems to have narrowed this

(01:53:33):
down sufficiently to look into it. Here we are. It's
twenty twenty five, Adam, and it took some independent investigators
to do it. The FBI has been busily rounding up
every single human being in a five mile square area
of the J six protest, and they found all of them.
They prosecuted in the fullest extent of the law. Why
didn't they go after the person right away who planted
the bombs? My friend?

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
Oh, you know, let's dig even deeper.

Speaker 12 (01:53:57):
Let's let's by the way as the power you would say,
you know, don't look under that rock, don't kick that
one over. But pulling that back a little bit more,
were those bombs even uh, you know active, Did they
have any active ingredients? And I certainly doubt it. I
would imagine that those were inert planet that she was
probably tasked to do that and give it a cush

(01:54:18):
job afterwards, and all for political gain, and you know,
to destroy basically.

Speaker 5 (01:54:24):
A lot of it.

Speaker 12 (01:54:24):
I believe that January sixth, the COVID narrative, all of
that stuff was all wrapped up together with various attempts
to unseat a duly elected president and to usher in
a soft coup or a color revolution, you know, against
the American people. It's I mean, it's just it's and
it's when one thing didn't work there, what's the next

(01:54:45):
thing to the next thing, to the next thing. So
it's the indictments, it's the Arctic cross it's the crossfire hurricane,
it's you know, it's all the things that we've talked about,
and it just went on and on, and I don't
know how President Trump is still standing. And he actually
looked younger and better and stronger than he did before.
I'm like, I pass off to you.

Speaker 6 (01:55:05):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:55:05):
It's like, don don Junior talk about him, and he's like,
He's like, the man hasn't slept in three days and
he's still going. You know, I kick quit now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Yeah. It's like it's like cancer feeding off sugar. He
feeds off of his political oppositions, anger and hatred toward him.
He lives rent free in all their heads and that
gets him out of bed every single day, to the
extent even goes to bed. Adam hard.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
I was just going to.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
Say, the White House memes are unbelievable. Yeah, they're coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Somebody's using social media finally to a conservative advantage. Adam Hartage,
he knows all about it. Get a copy of his book.
Joe Strecker's put it on my blog page fifty five
KC dot com. The Alpha Blueprint Preparing the Next Generation
for an AI future. Adam, thanks for speaking truth to
power and for revealing what's going on behind the scenes,
and for your courage and commitment to do just that.
I can't thank you enough for spending time with my

(01:55:58):
listeners of me today, and I hope someday got down
the road we get to have you back on the
show any so we have Strecker around for he looks
into these things.

Speaker 15 (01:56:11):
Thank you, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
We are back to a recurring theme with the column today,
which is can the president disrupt free speech? And I
had you know, I went back and forth just a
little bit yesterday. I had some outstanding questions. We're talking
about the right to peace, lea assemble, We're talking about
the First Amendment, right to free speech. We're talking about
prior restraint on free speech. And welcome back one of
our favorite cases, Brandenburg versus Ohio. Let's walk through the

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history of this, because I did not real I couldn't
recall the president Woodrow Wilson arrested people for merely reading
the Declaration of Independence.

Speaker 15 (01:56:41):
Well, not only did he arrest people for reading the
Declaration of Independence, he arrested some of his former students
when he was the president of Princeton. They were freshmen.
By the time they were seniors he was the president
of the United States. He was only the governor of
New Jersey for eighteen months when he ran for and

(01:57:02):
was elected president. Now, I don't know if they did
this to taunt him, if they did this to deter
people from registering for the draft. But he was of
the view that any speech which deterred people from registering
for the draft, men for registering for the draft in
time of war, was an interference with the war effort,

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and therefore was criminal. When he was challenged in a
press conference. There are two interesting footnotes to this. One
is this one when he was challenged in a press
conference about how he could arrest people for speech. This
former professor of constitutional law at Princeton University said, read
the First Amendment. It says Congress shall make no law

(01:57:46):
bridging the freedom of speech. There's nothing in there about
the president. Now you're laughing, because if you had given
that answer in an exam in constitutional law in a
law school, you'd flown.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
I can't believe he actually answer said that, okay.

Speaker 15 (01:58:05):
Because he's saying that because he was not restrained, he
was at liberty to do it. This is the Wilsonian
view of the government. It's the opposite of the Madisonian view. Madisonian,
which was, with the exception of the Civil War years,
pretty much followed from Washington up to the time of Wilson,

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was that the federal government is limited to do that
which is it is expressly authorized to do in the Constitution.
The Wilsonian view is the federal government can do anything
for which there is a national problem, and the national
political will accept that which is expressly prohibited to it

(01:58:45):
in the Constitution. So these two views of the federal
government are the opposite. The other interesting fun fact who
arrested these Princeton students, A young feal agent by the
name of John Edgar Hoover.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Okay, well that answers the question right there. Hey, ja.

Speaker 15 (01:59:10):
So as a result of not this arrest, but many others,
the DOJ Wilson's Department of Justice persuaded I'm happy not
a reluctant Supreme Court to permit these suppressions. First, they
came up with a bad tendency test. If speech would

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have a tendency to the neutral ear to incite violence,
the speech was criminal. Then they came up with the
clear and present danger test. If the speech is a
clear and present danger to violence or to national security,
then the speech is criminal. These two monstrosities existed for
fifty years from nineteen nineteen until nineteen sixty nine, when

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in Hamilton County, Ohio, a crackpot I forget his first name,
last name Brandenburg, I think it was Alvin, gave an
incendiary speech in which he condemned blacks and he condemned
Jews and said, we're going to march to Washington and
they run the government, and we're going to take it
back from them. He was prosecuted in a Hamilton County

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court and convicted of criminal syndicalism basically speech which encourages violence.
Upheld by the Ohio Appellate Court, upheld by the Ohio
Supreme Court, unanimously reversed by the Federal Supreme Court invalidating
state and federal criminal syndicalism laws and giving us the

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Brandenburg test, no more bad tendency test, no more clear
and present danger test. Now all innocuous speech is protected,
and all speech is innocuous when there is time, he
were time for more speech to rebut it. Even if
there isn't any more speech that robuts it, if there

(02:01:05):
is time for it, then the speaker is not liable
for the consequences of his speech, and his speech is protected.

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
That's the law today.

Speaker 15 (02:01:13):
Brandenburg was cited as recently as last year by the
same nine justices who are sitting today. Notwithstanding all of this,
President Trump wants to bring back the bad tendency and
clear and present danger days because he has directed federal
law enforcement to disrupt I put the word in caps.

(02:01:36):
I didn't think my editors would let me get away
with it, but they did, to disrupt the speeches of
those whom the president believes are anti Christian, anti capitalist,
anti American. He singled out Antifa, but the language has
brought enough to cover almost any group that the law
enforcement deems to be anti Christian, anti capitalist, anti American. Look,

(02:02:00):
I'm an old fashioned pre Vatican to Latin Mass attending
Roman Catholic. You know that I am the antithesis of
anti Christian. But you have the right to be anti
Christian in America, and you have the right to express that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
Indeed, I'd embrace that all day long. Before we get
to some of the subtleties on this, I'm just wondering
if there is a particular case or an illustration of
those situations that where someone has been prosecuted or held
criminally respond for whatever because there wasn't enough time to

(02:02:35):
inject counter sees.

Speaker 15 (02:02:36):
The leading case is called Turman Yellow versus Chicago, which
is nineteen fifties, so it's before it's a precursor to
and leading up to Brandenburg. But Turman Yellow was a
Roman Catholic priest who hated Harry Truman and condemned his

(02:02:57):
use of atomic weapons and condemned his failures. Where father
termin Yellow got a little off the rails to crack
down on communists in the government. This is a Joe
McCarthy era now. And he rented a hall, got a
permit from the Chicago Police department, gave an incredibly incendiary

(02:03:18):
speech saying horrible things about Harry Truman, and the mob
descended upon him, trashed the hall, and the police barely
got him out of there with his life. Well, they
got him out of there and brought him into a
patty wagon and arrested him for incendiary.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Speech, inciting a riot, basically right.

Speaker 15 (02:03:39):
And he was convicted in a Chicago local court, upheld
in an Illinois appeals court. The Supreme Court of Illinois
didn't even want to touch it. And then it went
to the US Supreme Court five to four, not unanimous.
So it's a different court at the time we get
to Brandenburg five to four reversing his conviction. Listen to

(02:03:59):
this First Amendment speech about the government is so important
to our democracy it will even tolerate a little bit
of violence. Wow. Now they didn't arrest the people that
trashed the hall, right, they arrested the Catholic priests that
got the permit to have the gathering.

Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
All right, now, as this applies to Antipha the st
hypothetical I pose to you, and you wrote in the
article that it is a political philosophy. Most certainly is
it's Marxist, it's communists. Label it whatever you want to
label it is it is not something divinely inspired. Isn't
arguing about a particular issue or a law that should
be passed. It's just the fundamental nature of our government.

(02:04:43):
They don't like it, they want to undermine it. They
hate capitalism, so they can scream about that all day long.
That's political speech. If, however, they are and organized in
some capacity, they're receiving money and funding an organization, they
belong to a particular group. That group's goal is to
tear down the United State of America like a terrorist
organization would. If they are organized and they commit two

(02:05:07):
or more action further and criminal actions furtherance of their goal,
are they not subject to prosecution for what there it
would be for what they're doing? Though it's I said,
you can label the mafia it's organized crime. You can
go after their activities, you can label them antifa. If
they are organized and they do commit criminal acts, you
can go after them as an entity. So does that

(02:05:27):
still stand well?

Speaker 15 (02:05:30):
The short answer I think to your question is yes,
if this is an organized entity and it commits two
or more acts of violence, it then subjects itself to
the penalties under RICO, a Racketeer Influence Corrupt Organization Act.
Why did they have to use Rico, an Italian nickname,

(02:05:53):
because this was originally written to cripple the mob and
thanks to its use, I then US Attorney Rudy Giuliani,
it was used to bankrupt the mob. So two or
more criminal events contributing to an enterprise, a financial enterprise

(02:06:13):
subject the financial enterprise to treble damages. It could it
could so be used. There are criminal Rico statutes and
civil Rico statutes I don't know what this Antifa is.
I only know that when Chris Ray, the former head
of the death of the FBI, last testified before Congress,

(02:06:36):
which is now a winter of twenty four, after Donald
Trump had defeated Kamala Harrison, and mister Ray knew he'd
better resign or he'd be fired in a month, he said,
FBI intel found that Antifa is not an organized group.
It's not even a group. It's just it's just an idea.

(02:06:59):
There's no central authority, there's no central command, there's no
central treasury. That's the last intel made public that we
have on this. Whether there is subsequent intel or not,
I don't know. It hasn't been made public.

Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
Well, there's a lot of research out there, but the
Tides Foundation, Sous Foundations, all these very very leftist, pro communist,
pro globalist organizations which seem to be behind the funding.
At least that's what it's been largely suggested. Now. I
suppose this will all play out ultimately if it's investigated.
But in so far as raised, can you know conclusions.
Perhaps it was the timing they hadn't looked into it yet,

(02:07:33):
but I know in among my listening audience. The man
who's behind arctic frost doesn't carry a lot of weight
in terms of his.

Speaker 15 (02:07:41):
Well, there's no question about that. I mean, the Arctic
for US thing is very unusual. Senator Ted Cruz, who's
a graduate of Harvard Law School who clerked to the
Supreme Court of the United States but doesn't practice law, said,
you guys tapped my phones. They didn't tap his phones.

(02:08:03):
They got metadata who called home from what number? Two,
what number and for how long? Now I condemn that,
but the statutes for which Senator Cruz voted here we
go permit the government to do that without a subpoena
or a search warrant.

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
Thank you for reminds if.

Speaker 15 (02:08:22):
The government wants the telecom not to tell the customer
that the government has metadata, they go to a judge,
and the statute permits that. I just don't think that
these members of Congress who voted for this ever imagined
it would be used against them exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
But the opportunity that it could be was enough to
say no in the first place. And you pointed out
time and time again exactly the way it should have been.

Speaker 15 (02:08:49):
One of those who screamed the loudest and I'm not
a fan of his, but I have to be into ellectually,
be honest, he did vote against this all the time,
that Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri. But these authorities that
Jack Smith used, many of them go back. Some go
back to the Reagan ere ra. Most go back to
the Patriot Act era, right after nine to eleven. They're reprehensible.

(02:09:11):
They all violate the Fourth Amendment. They've never been passed
upon by the Supreme Court, but Congress voted for it,
and most of them expire every five years and Congress
reenacts them every five years. You'll see that happening during
Donald Trump's current term.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Always get the truth from you, Judge and Napolitan will
be listening for Judging Freedom your podcast. We're out of time.
I'd like to elaborate on that, but you know how
much I love having you in the show, and I
certainly appreciate your willingness to come on every week. Can
the President disrupt free speech? Find the calum tonight after midnight,
Judge until next week, have a fantastic week, my friend.

Speaker 15 (02:09:45):
Thank you, Brian all the best.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
I'd love you, Hey forty five ift Morning Show. Because
a long time ago, in a shopping mall not that
far away. There's a humanitarian named Bob Wedderer who had
an idea that he wanted to make lives better for
troubled teens in the area. So he decided he was
going to put a tree on it with tags with
the name and give suggestions for those teens at this facility.

(02:10:06):
And that man, Bob Wetter, is on the program now
to talk about the Wish Tree program he started forty
one years ago. Bob Wedder, Welcome back. You missed a
humanitarian and a person that everybody knows is Santa Claus
around this time of year.

Speaker 16 (02:10:23):
Good morning, Brian. Yes, at that time it seems litorally,
but it's wonderful. The Purple Beeple Bridge is lighting their
tree on Friday night and they have for the past
few years invited us to come and put a tree
at the south side of the Newport Levy and on

(02:10:45):
Friday night, the Mayor of Newport they've purchased the bridge
and they will have it lit and we'll be there
to light the wish tree.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
That's fantastic. Is it a real big tree you got
for that one, Bob. That's like a very prominent spot
there Oh.

Speaker 16 (02:11:01):
That's about a forty five footer. I'd say maybe even bigger.

Speaker 2 (02:11:05):
Well, I can't reach up to the top of that,
but to pull an ornament off. But the point is
you're gonna have ornaments on the tree, and those ornaments
are does the child in need fill out that ornament saying,
you know, I could really use, you know, a bag
of socks or a winter coat or whatever, and that
has their name on it. How does that all work? Bob?

Speaker 16 (02:11:24):
The organization fills out the ornaments of what they need
to give to the children and to the seniors, so
all the tags. Basically, everybody gives me two hundred ornaments
for that tree. And there's sixteen different organizations that are
on that tree. So we fill it throughout the season

(02:11:47):
and they're all laminated on that tree.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
Great.

Speaker 16 (02:11:50):
But what's good is the Bagels play Pittsburgh on Sunday,
so hopefully people coming are going to the game will
see it. Whole extra ornaments that way also.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
There you but.

Speaker 16 (02:12:04):
They've been very kind to letting us put that tree.
I'd say it's been five years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
That's a wonderful addition because what you also have, and
this is why I also wanted to encourage maybe some
businesses out there. I know there are places like I
believe Ron's Roost is one of them, always have a
tree at their business. You invite businesses to put a
wish tree in their business that you'll be happy to deliver, right.

Speaker 16 (02:12:27):
Right, we have a little over three hundred.

Speaker 5 (02:12:29):
We'd love to get more.

Speaker 16 (02:12:31):
Our big number was many many years ago, and we
were up to seven hundred for one year, but then
time change. People wanted me to go outside of up
in Montgomery County and everywhere. I couldn't control that, so
we stuck with Cincinnati, northern Kentucky, and one or two

(02:12:52):
trees Indiana.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
Huh bob, It sounds to me like there needs to
be another chapter or two of the wiz Tree program
opening up out there. Nobody's stopping anybody from doing that, right.

Speaker 16 (02:13:01):
No, No, as long as I know that it's legit
and they're going to do what we've done, we'll be
happy to take that portion on. But can't do it
with one person or two people.

Speaker 2 (02:13:13):
No, just said, you need some elves working for you.
I guess Rebecca Grappi is not in the neighborhood because
I know you have at least one elf.

Speaker 6 (02:13:21):
She's back.

Speaker 16 (02:13:22):
Good, he came home last night.

Speaker 2 (02:13:25):
Good.

Speaker 16 (02:13:25):
You will be down at the We'll be down at
the Turple Bridge today at one o'clock. We're gonna put
the tags on it. We were gonna do it yesterday,
but it was little windy, little rainy and snowy, so
we're going back at one o'clock today. I've got five
or six people. We're going to start hanging tags. Anybody
want to stop buying hanging tags? Hey, we'll be there

(02:13:49):
to take.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
The help get you in the holiday spirit. And there
are so many organizations they're going to be bringing the
ornaments for these trees. A caring place, you got Bluebird
bus a Home, Holy Cross Elementary, Holy Family Well, Jeff
Wiler's Boys and Girls Club of Greater Cincinnati, the Learning
Grow Mount Washington School, ninth District elementary schools. The schools
obviously are in touch with the needs of some of

(02:14:09):
the underserved children. So that's actually I'm glad the school
districts have teamed up with you. But I just I
just grabbed a handful of the organizations. The full list
my listeners can find. Also, if you're a business that
wants to put a tree up it's wish Tree program
dot org, wish Tree program dot or Joe put a
link to that up on my blog page as well. Bob. Right, so,

(02:14:31):
and now they follow up the next step. So you
get the ornament from whatever tree you grab it from,
you get the gift and then you bring it back
to the business where you grab the ornament or do
you How does the collection process work? Bob Wetter.

Speaker 16 (02:14:47):
Before COVID, that's how it totally worked. Now people a
lot of people like the idea. They go on to Amazon,
they have it delivered straight to the charity and a
as we still go out and pick up from the
location because a lot of my generation we like to

(02:15:08):
put my hands on it deliver it back. Yeah, I know,
a younger generation they love that computer.

Speaker 2 (02:15:17):
It does make it easy. I meant you, at least
the computer has facilitated the ease of giving and helping
out this time of year. So I'm not going to
put through the idea, but.

Speaker 16 (02:15:28):
Right there is no reason not to give because if
you think about it right now, you can get on
your phone, make the purchase and you've done something good
and you put a smile Christmas Day. You know, when
you wake up your health. A lot of people with
money gifts. There's a big help to everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
And I know it gets you out of bed in
the morning knowing the good work you're doing for all
these underserved teams and children out there. Wish Tree program
dot org. Mister humanitarian himself, call him Santa Claus. You
will be at listener lunch. You price will chill you
the first Wednesday of December, right.

Speaker 16 (02:16:01):
Bob, Absolutely bring your guests to that one. I've already
talked to them. And they have a tree. Shelley has
a tree. Yes, they always have a tree. We got
one more plug. The water towers lint every night in
Mount Washington now thanks to everybody and a lot of
your listeners helped a lot with that also. And we

(02:16:23):
have our spaghetti dinner Saturday. Our location is on Corbley
Road in Mount Washington, next to Sands at the United
Methodists malw Washington United Methodists. It's four to seven. You
get salad from Chapolti, you get spaghetti and meatball from

(02:16:43):
the Roses, cheese from gold Star, you get There's Kate
from Servadis, and you get lemonade, coffee or tea, all
for ten dollars and it's one hundred percent of profit
for us, so it goes to that tower so we
can be led every night in Mount.

Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
Washington Tower beautification brought to you again by Bob Wetter
and all those who helped out. Bob Wetter, thanks again
for the work that you do for those underserved. Wish
Tree program dot orger just remember fifty five cars dot
com or Joe's put Away. Bob, I'll see you in
a few weeks over at Price Sal Chili right for
the final Listener lunch of the year, and I hope
to see you there too, My friend listener friends, uh
Brigha mcgawan from the Hudson Institute charge