55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Rick Hutto, Judge Napolitano, Scott Miller

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Five o five a fifty five k r C the
talk station. Happy Wednesday, will a vacation.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I can learn so much from you.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
You're cracking me up right out of the gate. Joe Strekker,
executiveroducer of the program. Appreciate that. Brian Thomas right here,
glad to be and of course on a Wednesday, always
happy to be here because we get the big picture
with Jack ave In on Wednesdays at seven o five.
The brilliance of Jack add and shines like a bright
light every Wednesday. So Jacket seven o five today Shooter

(00:57):
Sanders and politics. Not quite sure where Jack's going with
that one, but I never know where Jack's going, but
it always is a brilliant place. So looking forward to
that at seven o five, follow by the return of
Americans for Prosperities Donovan and eil Aisle House and Senate
returning from a two week hiatus to vote on the
Ohio Energy bill. He vote is eminity, he says, and

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we're going to learn what is included in that. The
Countess and the nazis Rick Hudo, the author of the book.
He'll join the program at eight oh five, will learn
about that, and then arresting a judge. Judge Depaulatino probably
controversial conclusion in his column today, he believes that the
arrest of Judge Dugan was inappropriate. It hinges. His argument

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hinges on the administrative warrant component. You know this, It's
a very subtle point he makes, but have to emphasize it.
Judge Dugan and Judge of Paula Timas share the view
that the Fourth Amendment makes administrative warrants blatantly unconstitutional. And

(02:07):
when Judge Juden assisted this illegal immigrant out of the courtroom,
she was ignoring the warrant that the Ice agents the
federal agents had because she believes them to be unconstitutional.
So if they truly were not lawful, the warrants themselves
not lawful, then she wouldn't be in violation of obstructing

(02:28):
of justice. She would be upholding the law in the
sense that someone was trying to arrest someone on an
unconstitutional warrant. However, as I understand it, we're gonna have
to work through this together. Those warrants are not unconstitutionally,
never have been declared that a federal magistrate in fact
found probable cause to arrest the judge. So she's been

(02:50):
through the legal process leading up to the arrest, but
the warrant is considered lawful. That's the point on all
this until someone says administrative warrants are not lawful. The
judge was not following the law, following her perception of
the law. And maybe this case in and of itself
will determine whether administrative warrants are lawful or not, whether

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they are valid under the Fourth Amendment or not. Judge
side judge, and the Platano sides with Judge Dougan on
the perception of this, So it should be an interesting
conversation anyway. I'm just trying to, you know, get ahead
of what I perceived to be my listening audience getting
angry with the judge for you know, keeping in being

(03:36):
consistent with his perceptions of the Constitution and his you know,
foundational libertarian principles, much in the same way people get
angry occasionally with Thomas Massey for doing the same thing,
like one of the hold out votes on the almost
unanimous online a artificial intelligence? What was that the pornography

(03:59):
sharing online the other day? Anyway, it should be an
interesting conversation with the judge. It usually is at least
that's my perception of it. Scott Miller, with the book
The Most Dangerous Man in Washington. Scott had joined the
program at the tail end of the show at eight
forty five five three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred,
eight hundred eight two to three talk on five fifty
on eighteen t phones. I've lost my article here, Oh

(04:21):
there it is. Yeah. I wanted to get into this
because having kind of commissioners, they get they have an
agreement in principle. Basically voted two to one to approve
a one hundred and eighty five million deal to start
improving pay Course stadium. Yay not. This really irks me.
Everybody listens to the program regularly knows that I do
not believe in our taxpayer dollars supporting ridiculous over the stadiums,

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especially when the upgrades are well focused primarily on the
high end boxes that most of us won't visit. Alisha Reese,
I'm going to be on side Alisha res today. She
was the only descending vote and she had good reasons
to dissent. This is phase one of four phases in
the eight eight hundred and thirty million dollars package of

(05:03):
upgrades to the facility. Just sit back and contemplate that
worst stadium deal in NFL history, four hundred and eighty
five plus million dollars to build the damn thing. We're
going to be putting eight hundred and thirty million dollars
in upgrades. And yes, I understand the value of the dollars,
not what it was when the stadium was built in
the first place. Parties have a June thirtieth deadline to

(05:24):
come up with a new lease deal. The Bengals can
unilaterally exercised the first of five two year extensions allowed
by the current lease. So the team in the county
apparently now working to finish a longer term deal by
the June thirtieth deadline. So under the current under memoranti
of understanding, I think that's all it is. National Football
League and the Bengals are going to be paying. This

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is we've talked about this before, one hundred and twenty
million dollars for the improvements. The county u Hamilton County
tax payers will pick up sixty four and a half
million dollars for their part. The Bengals are borrowing half
of the one hundred and twenty million dollars. Under the
G five program the NFL has, It allows teams to
borrow money from the NFL. They can borrow up to

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three hundred million dollars for stadium renovations and then ultimately
the Bengals, I guess, have to repay the NFL commissioner.
Dumas said she viewed the Bengals contribution as representative of
good faith and according to according to The Business Journal

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reporting Chris Wederich, since I business carrier, Dumas would prefer
the county be spending even less. Oh well, thanks, Well,
I'm going to sign on to this and approve the
memorand of understanding, But I prefer if the taxpayers weren't.
We're paying less, but here pay anyway, Dumas said, when

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I received the memorand of understanding, I said, okay, we're talking.
How can I make this work? I basically lived my
life with the glass half full. I had an assumption
of goodwill. What does that mean? Thank you? Joe outcomes
the bubbling blongo stupidity. That does not make sense. Do

(07:14):
you must pointed out the NFL's deadline to distribute these
G five funding the borrowed money, the Bengals are borrowing
from the NFL It's April thirtieth deadline, noting that the
Bengals will eventually have to repay the NFL contribution. So
what is it, Red Joe, if the Bengals are borrowing

(07:35):
the money from the NFL to fund their share of
this phase one thing? Is it really coming out of
the Bengals pocket? Do you know anything about the terms
of conditions the NFL loan agreements and what they must repay.
Do they have to repay with interest? What term? I
know None of these details are known to the average
human being. I don't know if this is any skin

(07:56):
off the Bengals back at all. Probably not, I know,
probably not. Dubas quote. I want to see good faith
out of the Bengals. I truly believe they showed good
faith in this instance. All right, So let's give her due,
and let's acknowledge in this particular case, for the sake

(08:17):
of argument, that this is a sign of good faith.
With the Bengals shouldering one hundred and twenty million dollars
of the one hundred and eighty five million dollar burden,
with the taxpayers in Hamilton County shouldering the balance genuinely.
What about phases two, three, and four. Will they be

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shouldering the majority of the burden for those phases as well?
Probably not Reese. For her part, Alisia Reese said she
was voting no because she doesn't want to spend any
more money until there's a new lease with the team
fair enough. She wants the cost of the stadium to
taxpayers to be reduced. Quote, they've been undefeated at beating

(09:02):
the taxpayers. She said, ooh, I like that. There's nothing
in this to bring the costs down on the taxpayers.
We just can't keep giving away all the chips. Reese
also Precision said she presumed that the next time the
county administration came to the commissioners with the Bengals related agreement,

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it would be a new lease. Dumas said that was
never her impression for its part in what is described
as a prepared statement, and I'm sure it was probably
went through legal department teams that have appreciated the county
approving the deal well, which is a step toward preserving

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pay Corpse Stadium as a valuable asset for the community
and the downtown. The Bengals primary objective has been to
keep operating successfully in pay Course Stadium Pause for a moment.
What does it take to operate successfully in pay Course Stadium?
I would say maintenance and up keeping the field and

(10:06):
a safe environment where maybe concrete isn't falling down on
people's heads. But beyond that, what do you really need?
And does operating successfully mean winning or just playing? I
know that's a different discussion. Today's memorandum of understanding keeps

(10:28):
pay Course Stadium in good shape for fans attending the
events and continues the effort to build a world class
riverfront for the community. Hmm, well, I suppose if you
enter pay Corse Stadium you might notice some of the changes,
but I know the exterior of the stadium is going

(10:49):
to pretty much look the same. The riverfront itself is
not transformed by these upgrades. And for the community, I
get a showing of hands for how many people live
in the city of Cincinnati, the community that are going
to actually go into pay Course teaum that can afford
to go into pay Corpse Stadium anyone. I understand there

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are many underserved communities in the city of Cincinnati. A
lot of complaints by people out in the community about
their neighborhoods being underserved. The statement goes on, many good
things have happened along the riverfront over the past twenty
five years, and the team is glad to continue working
with emmelin Canada forge a long term deal that works

(11:34):
well for Greater Cincinnati. Close quote. I think a long
term deal that works well for the Cincinnati Bengals and
the owners of the Cincinnai Bengals is really what that
statement implies. Courier points out that either side can back
out of the deal or reduce the amount of they
spend or terminate respective projects. All Right, here's what the building,

(11:57):
the world class community is, world class refront for the community.
Here's what you're paying for in Phase one modification to
the East and West club lounges, all one hundred and
thirty two suites, concessions and stadium beautification. And the Bengals

(12:19):
are gonna pay for those improvements. How do you beautify
a concession, Stan, Joe, can you make that Skyline chili
concession look better? I mean it's a storefront essentially, escalators, elevators,
electrical power code upgrades, suite seat replacements, glass refurbishment, and

(12:45):
the jungle room control vision or jungle Vision control room.
That's what you in the county being are paying for.
I'm sure everyone will notice these changes. It'll just be
a radical, radical departure. But we current we've got Joe
is really really on the edge of his seat looking

(13:08):
forward to seeing the cushions. Right. Joe also put in
something else that I was alluding to earlier. Maybe I
wasn't asppointed as I should have been, which he will
never see himself in person five three, seven, four nine

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fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three Top
Town five fifty on eighteen and t funds. Is this
a priority? Is this on your short list? Residents of
Hamilton County? Do you have a wish list for what
you want from government that your taxpayers are going to
pay for, Your tax dollars are going to pay for
you want to go to work to fulfill an objective

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that government is going to work toward. Is this on
your list?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thanks Dad from beyond stick around me right back after
these brief words. Fifty five KRC dot com Ndition five
twenty three on a Wednesday, and a happy one to
you listener lunch. It is listener lunch Day. Sunder Brewery
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And again I point out, the menu looks pretty tasty.
You know, some breweries have bigger menus than others, and
this looks like he has something on the list that
you'll probably enjoy. Let's go to the phone see what
Steve's got. Steve, thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to
the Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Hey, Brian, how are you.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm doing pretty good. You know, I'm looking forward to
lunch today. That's one thing I got looking We've got
to look forward to fantastic.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Hey, we continue praying for your health situation there, brother.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Thank you man. I really appreciate that. I really do.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I've got a theory on Tom's Massy and again it's
just a theory, but I know he's been through a
lot of stuff personally and all that type things. I
think he might not want to be a congressman anymore.
And again that's just my own take on this. You've
got to be able to I think he needs to
take a page out of the Donald Trump Playbook of negotiation.

(15:16):
You know, you can't one percent you've got to plays
and you know, fifty percent of something is better than
one hundred percent of nothing. So why in the world,
you know his excuse.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Me, I hear you, man, I hear you. And I
think his it's it's like religion. It's a philosophical, fundamental,
foundational principle. And he being the fly in the ointment
on constitutionally found foundational principles, he's the one that's got
to make the argument because everybody else capitulates too often.

(15:52):
You know, there's one thing to negotiate a position and
kind of give a little ground, but when it comes
to the Constitution, he's not going to give any And
he's very critical of politicians who swear not to uphold
the Constitution yet will give up ground on the basis that,
you know, we need to resolve the problem, we need
to advance this, we need to do something about the problem.

(16:14):
So knowing he's still he's going to be in the minority,
and especially on that vote the other day on the
protecting you know, I believe it was revenge porn bill
funded boiled and boiled down. You know, it's a slippery slope,
it's in erosion, and it's something that is going to
be causing further problems down the road, and I can
see that. So I'm going to be the holdout. I'll
be one of two people in the entire Congress that's

(16:35):
going to say no. And that gives him leverage to
advance his constitutional point. That's he's just that wed to
his foundational principles, and I salute him for that, because honestly,
if all of our politicians were really that fundamentally wed
to the Constitution, we wouldn't be where we are today.
So that's I think where he's coming from, Steve. But

(16:58):
I get your point me. Yeah, it's like sacrificing the
good in search of the perfect. I mean, you know,
people make that point all the time. If you're looking
for the perfect politician, you're never going to find one.
So let's go with this guy, even though he's got
some flaws. It's better than the alternative. In Massy's position,
when it comes to the Constitution, there is no alternative.

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You stick with it or it's gone five twenty six
fifty five. K see the talk station and if Congressman
massys some you know, folks are out there listening, and
they can either agree or disagree. With me. That's my
perception of his vision and from my observations of his
voting and from talking with him over the years. I
could be wrong. Don't go away. We've got plenty more

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talk out and couldn't local stories. Phone calls are always
welcome here in the morning show five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three
talk pound Fi fifty on AT and T phones will
be right back fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Keep it.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Five thirty on a Wednesday. Listener to lunch whyesday Sonder
Brewery in Westchester, very much looking forward to that and
having a game of cribbage with cribbage Mike. If you're
out there, Mike, I'm going to continue my winning streak
one last time. I think that makes a total of
three over the several years we've been playing together. Bugs

(18:20):
in the local news. First off, spotted lantern flies. I
remember Ron Wilson talking about these, buggy Joe Boggs, Who's
Who's on Ron Wilson's program all the time talking to
WLWT Channel five news. You might not see spotted lantern
flies previously, but apparently they're going to be showing up
in larger numbers this year. According to Joe Boggs, entomologists

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with the OSU extension of Hamilton Caddy. They're not going
to fly at you, but just the sheer numbers make
them a nuisance pet. Don't threaten people, but they might
bother your trees. Said, it's not a tree killer, but
on small trees or trees that are stressed, we get concerned,
he said, first detective and small numbers here in twenty

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twenty two. The invasive pests, they say, crowd in large
numbers around a wide variety of plants, including vines, garden vegetables,
and they are particularly fond of native maple trees. According
to Joe bogs if the tree's healthy, if it's a
big tree, no harm, smaller tree, it might push it
over the edge. Now the tree won't die immediately, he said,

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what you might see is a die back in the branches.
So that's where we're concerned with this insect. There are
lanterflies right now in their egg stage, but adults could
start appearing by midsummer. Joe Boggs recommends monitoring your yard
using a bioational solution which targets the specific pests. Mem

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oil is one option. He advises against spraying general pesticides
because they kill beneficial species that help control the lanterfly population.
And he predicts the future. He said, like with other
invasive pests, natural predators will eventually start to control the numbers.
So that's eventually, he said, what's going to happen with
the spotted lanternfly. Right now. We just have to suffer
through until the good guys show up to help us

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get to the future. More bugs in local news. Cicadas,
it's Brood fourteen going to start emerging in numbers around
the lower billions in thirteen states. According to Gene Kritzky,
biology professor at Mount Saint Joe University, Broods sixteen cicadas

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periodical cicadas that come out every seventeen years. Last time
they were here two thousand and eight, Broods sixteen or
fourteen cicada is going to start emerging from the ground
the second week of May, and if the spring is
similar last year, is the likely stay around till the
end of June. They say that twenty twenty five Broud's

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going to emerge in greater numbers, along ice seventy one
quarter and eastward. Here are the counties that will be
hit the hardest. Adams, Brown, parts of Butler, Claremont of Hamilton, Highland,
parts of Ross and most of Warren. Another thirteen year
brewed expected to merge in Brown and Claremont Counties, as
well as ten other counties in northern Kentucky in twenty

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twenty seven. So this year states expected the cicadas Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts,
New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia,
West Virginia. There you go, another round of cicadas. Nearly
nine months after recreational weed marijuana sales began in Ohio,

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municipalities hosting recreational dispensaries still wait around to learn what
share of the tax revenue, if any, they're going to receive.
Thank you to Andrew Rowan of WCPO for reporting consumers
have purchased now more than four hundred and seventy nine
million dollars in recreational weed products from local dispensaries since
the sales began. That's according to the state's Division of

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Cannabis Control. When Ohio voters approved recreational marijuana. They established
a tax distribution plan. This was in the ballot initiative.
You voted for social equity jobs thirty six percent, thirty
six percent to Host Community Cannabis Facilities Fund, twenty five
percent of this Substance Abused Addiction Fund, three percent the

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Division of Cannabis Control. However, the state House recently passed
the budget that would restructure that with twenty percent going
to Host Community Cannabis Fund and eighty percent going to
the general fund. Those politicians and Columbus want to control
the money, and then after five years, the Host Community
Fund would be eliminated entirely. I don't even know what

(22:38):
that is. CPOs asked two senators and the Finance Committee
for the response to the changes. Both want to see
the host community made whole. Senator George Lang, Republican Westchester.
For us now to go into these communities and say
we're going to change the rules on you is wrong.
They made a business decision based on the set of
rules that was voted on by the taxpayer, and I

(23:00):
think we need to honor that. Bill Blessing a Senate
district working on a compromise amendment that would increase the
excise tax from ten to fifteen percent, create a larger
revenue pool that would preserve the host community share and
allow for other budget priorities. Quote. My overall goal of
this is to simply listen to all those host communities

(23:20):
and potential host communities I have on County, and they
have been overwhelmingly united against what the House is proposing. So,
host communities, you're the ones that decided you were going
to have a medical marijuana or a marijuana distributor dispensary
recreational I should correct myself in saying, so they're waiting
for their money. They haven't gotten it yet. Meanwhile, Columbus
tinkers with it. Five point thirty six fifty five KRC

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the talk station stick around, got to stack a stupid
to dive on into or more phone calls, which I
would prefer, but that's entirely up to you. Just steer
the direction of the conversation if you so choose. I'll
be right back.

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(24:39):
her husband having sex with his fifteen year old son
following weeks of reported seduction, now has lost her medical license.
Thirty five year old Alexis von Yates and her single
state nursing lights had revoked last week while waiting criminal
trial for Julyza led statutory rape of a miner who

(25:01):
was visiting his father in Ocalla, Florida for summer vacation.
Accord to the Florida Department of Health, nurses are placed
in a position of trust. Therefore, it is imperative that
they demonstrate good judgment and good moral character. Miss Yates's
decision to engage in sexual activity with a minor child
and or her decision to engage in well specific I

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will not name the specific sexual acts that she is
accused of having with the fifteen year old that is
documented in the report from the Florida Department of Health,
but they do say that she lacks a good judgment
moral character necessary to be a registered nurse. July twenty
twenty four, Yates put her two children to bed and
then hung out with her fifteen year old steps on

(25:43):
the living room couch. Reportedly hit the THC vape, played
video games watch movies while his father was working late.
According to the Restaffi David one Am, Yates flipped on
a horror movie Terrorizer Too, then further attempted the minor,
declaring the movie was boring and stating how horny she
was because she had not had sex in two weeks.

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Pair then cuddled closer to the fifteen year old, first
kissing Yates on the neck, and the pair proceeded to
make out, with Yates allegedly saying I wish you're eighteen
because you're not old enough. At that point, she peeled
off her panties and they engaged in certain sexual acts,
including closing the deal. Unsuspecting father slash husband came home

(26:30):
from his blue collar job, finding his wife and son
on the couch completely naked. Fifteen year old ran out
of the house, but allegedly heard Yates explain that the
child victim looked like his father when he was younger.
What father took his son to the grandparent's house, telling
the boy he ruined his life while drinking beer on

(26:51):
the drive over. Accord to the Affidavid, prior to these
sexual assault, Yates allegedly engaged in several acts of seduction
and overt flirtation towards them. Ahem day of the incident,
Yates had the gall to call the boy, saying she
wished they'd kept having sex and that her husband had

(27:13):
not discovered the act. She also asked the fifteen year
old to rate her sexual performance, to which he allegedly
replied seven out of ten. That's in the Affidavid. Thank you, Joe.
The biggest of the universe, in all the galaxies. There's

(27:37):
no big aduce than you. What is with some people?
Let's go to Florida. Eighty seven year old Florida man
arrested for domestic battery after tangling with his wife when
she sought to turn the air conditioning down, described as
the long source of marital strive control of the thermostead

(28:00):
sugar to seven am confrontation between Charles Ingram and his
eighty five year old spouse. This court of the restaff
David Investigators say Ingram returned to the couple Saint Petersburg
home and argued with the victim about his wife about
the air conditioner. The woman quote touched the thermostat to
turn the air down, prompting Ingram to allegedly push the

(28:20):
victim away from the thermostat against the wall. Thank you Joe.
Question by police, Ingram reportedly admitted to pushing her first,
and then stated that the victim pushed him back. Ingram
arrested for domestic violence with the charge and of enhanced
felony due to his prior battery convictions that go back
more than four decades. His rap sheet also includes a
nineteen eighty five felony welfare fraud conviction A little pushing match,

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an apology before I get the Janets call next Wednesday
list their lunch next Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
My friend Yoh sent me a text the other day
about something else. He said, see you tomorrow at listener lunch.
So I just had it in my mind. I wasn't
even thinking about the day of the week. It's always
the first Wednesday of the month. Tomorrow is not the
first Wednesday of the month. It's a tail end of
the month. So apologies for saying listener lunches today. It's not.
It's next Wednesday, and I will endeavor to not screw

(30:21):
up again. It's a five o'clock hour and I'm never
really quite one hundred percent a week. So thank you Kevin,
my dear friend Kevin, one of my shooting buddies and
the best barbecue master on the planet, for pointing that
out to me by text. God bless you Kevin for
correcting the record and while preventing maybe people from sc well,

(30:42):
showing up for a listener lunch is not going on
over to the phones. Janet, thank you for calling and
indulging me while I corrected the record. There, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Oh, no worries, I mean that's great. Hey, I just
was calling about the stadium thing. I mean, I think
it's critical. Okay, so whoever voted for that set solved
up for favor. But really, if that, if their money
is supposedly coming from the NFL, that's what's it going to.
What's gonna happen with it? So it makes you wonder
if they're going to funnel through NGOs, through nonprofits, through

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all these other things and make it go on a circular,
you know, funnel through for other projects that nobody will
be able to track.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, it's certainly possibility. Any money that goes into to
a deal, somebody's going to get hired to do the work.
That's for sure. You're going to have contractors doing work.
But my fundamental disagreement with the whole thing is that
you and I are paying for this grand and glorious
facility that profits the CINCINNTI Bengals.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
Yeah, because the ticket prices are going to go the
NFL is Sandport, So is that really helping anybody really?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Right? And then when if you can afford to get
in the door yet, I mean it's just outrageous. This
upgrades to the concessions is almost insulting considering it cost
fifteen dollars to buy a blanket beer there.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Well, it's like it's like going to your gym, been
a member of the thirty years, and then they change it.
They paint the walls to put they take the wallpaper off,
change the colors, put it a different, a little bit
slightly different, ripped the carpet and just lamin a floor,
and then they raise your prices. It's just an excuse
to raise prices on ticket.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, it's also an excuse to extract taxpayer dollars because
we got the worst tax the worst stadium deal in
the history. It's the original lease agreement, Janet that gave
rise to this nonsense. As you point out, your gym
membership is a great illustration of this maintenance and upkeep.
Your membership is supposed to be a part of the organizations,

(32:37):
the company's obligation and maintain and upkeep the place or
people are going to drop their memberships, but they don't,
so then they let it fall into a state of
disrepair and then expect you to pay more monthly because
then they finally go and they put new wallpaper up.
Part of the profits the Bengals made over the years
should have gone to these stadium improvements out of their
own pocket. But that's not what the lease calls for.
The least has always obligated you and I as Hamilton,

(33:00):
getting taxpayers to pay for these upgrades. It's insulting.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
It is insulting it again, think about it. It's just
creating no fewer and fewer people can even go to
those I know. This is ridiculous. It's insanity, and therefore
the poor people get me a break. This is ridiculous.
It's a political, partly political for their upcoming whenever they're
elected again, they could say, oh, they can put this

(33:25):
little feather in their captive. I think it's a feather.
Nobody if they're not paying attention, they're not really sure
what's going on. Seems like just yesterday we had a
stadium tax, Like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
How hard?

Speaker 7 (33:36):
How how run down?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Has it? Then?

Speaker 7 (33:39):
I mean, I mean, I just don't get it. It's
an excuse. What was the matter with the old gym equipment?
There was nothing. In fact, the old gym equipment was
better than the new if you use that analogy, It
didn't need no garbage nor wallpaper. You just used it
as an excuse to raise prices.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
You didn't call it looking for an argument, Janet, this
thing's got into my skin. I appreciate ate that call
very much. You know it's funny and I no insult
to his business. But I have a dear friend, grew
up with her and her husband sells professional gym equipment,
I mean the high end stuff to sports teams. And

(34:17):
you think there would be a limited demand for that.
But the way I found out, this business model works.
Anytime a new coach comes in, they automatically buy all
brand new equipment. It's not a question whether they need
it or not. It's just that they buy new equipment.
You got to scratch your head over that. A set
of dumbbells. I mean, what does the technology change dramatically

(34:40):
for weights? Isn't it just a weight bar with weights.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
On the end.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I mean, if you use if, that is an illustration.
But yeah, we're talking like, you know, Nautilus equipment or
machines and whatever machination or realm that they're in now.
And I know things have changed in terms of design,
but new stuff just because the well, I guess because
it's new calendar year. And of course the Bengals already

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an AT and T phone, And of course scotten under
my skin. This morning Hamilton County Commissioners voted two to
one to approve that one hundred and eighty five million
dollar pay course stadium upgrade deal, phase one of four phases.

(37:37):
And I'm with Alysia Reese on this when she was
the dissenting vote, and I can go over the details,
you know, kind of quickly. National Football League and the
Bengal is going to be paying the first one hundred
and twenty five million of this one hundred and eighty
eighty five million total, with the Hamilton County taxpayers on
the hook for sixty four and a half million. Again
This is going for really important stuff for the average

(38:00):
person in the city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County, generally
modification of the East and West Club lounges one and
thirty two, sweets Worth concessions, and stadium beautification. And that's
the chunk that the Bengals are going to pay for for.
It's one one hundred and twenty million, which apparently it's
borrowing from the NFL now they're reporting from the business

(38:22):
Courrier says they're going to end up having to pay
that back. Terms of conditions of how the payback works
and how those that that goes not known to well,
anybody beyond the Bengals of the NFL, I'm guessing least
it's not reported in the in the article, you and
I and Hamilton County responsible for escalators, elevators, electrical power
code upgrades, suite seat replacements, which jo Just Strecker pointed out,

(38:49):
like most humans in the entire state, basically no one
will ever see how many people in my listening to
audience have been invited to a Cincinnati Bengal game, Sweet
glass refurbishment and the Jungle Vision control room. Again, you
and I are paying for that now pivoting over something other.

(39:13):
That's something else that's insulting, because then I spring from
the proposition that the that the taxpayer shouldn't be obligated
to pay for these monstrous, these monstrous colossus stadiums that
benefit well one family in the case of the Brown family.
Or turning to Cleveland, where all of the Ohio taxpayers
are going to be responsible for a six hundred million
dollar bonded subsidy if it goes through. What are the

(39:37):
representatives and Columbus even thinking about Haslam's Sports Group gets
the benefit of that one. It's this multi billion dollar complex.
But oh look, the Office of Budget Management's chiming in
on that one and they're calling foul. The issue to

(39:57):
report which just recently got reported by this Center Square
dot com. I'm not sure if I'm not familiar with it,
but they actually have this report from the Office of
Budget Management which is quite revealing. They say, what's a
declaration of shenanigans? They say, it's filled with inconsistencies, this

(40:20):
proposal and incorrect information all in the memo for Ohio's
Office of Budget Management. This Houslim Sports Group included salaries
that already exist as net news salaries for income tax purposes,
they change the scope of their overall commitment to the
development in terms of dollars. Included tax exempt work in

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its math on projects that would where tax would be collected.
This is curious. Left the state with ownership and responsibility
for maintenance on a stadium where the state does not
earn revenue. According they want to be report, Ohio would
own or partially own a sports stadium and the responsibility

(41:07):
for maintenance with no additional revenue. The state does not
currently own any professional sports stadium fields or arenas this
amendment has enacted. OBM recommends the state receive revenue sharing
from events commensurate with our property ownership share. Well, that
may be something that you point out that you want
in order to offset the cost of this, but the
National Football League apparently does not allow teams to share

(41:29):
financial daty on stadium projects do not include revenue share
with local governments that subsidize their own facilities, including as
it relates to the stadium naming rights and personal seat licenses
sold by the team. So apparently it's ver bolten get
a load of this. It's in their report memos sent

(41:50):
by OBM Director Kimberly Mernix to Governor Mike Dwinstaff on
March twenty six, and how is it they're still talking
about this six hundred million dollar proposal that you and
I paying taxes here in Lowly Hamilton County, are going
to pay to fund the Cleveland Brad chunk of the
Cleveland Browns and Megasports complex. In the report, it says

(42:15):
the state tax revenue projections forecasted by HSG, that's the
Hasling Sport Group, do not stand up to scrutiny. This
is something that my friends from the Taxpayer Protection Lines
point out all the time. You get these wild projections
about how much these stadiums benefit the community. Oh, it's
gonna inject billions of dollars our revenue, blah blah blah

(42:36):
blah blah. Yeah, well no it doesn't. Revenue projections forecasted
by HSG do not stand up to scrutiny. While most
of the revenue they forecast comes from future state sales tax,
it seems that they may be considering economic activities that
are exempt from state sales tax. On the income tax side.

(42:57):
The new full time jobs total at most twelvey thirty
eight or fifteen fourteen through all phases. This is a
multi phase project as well, so that's jobs, not five thousand,
which is what apparently HSG said it was going to create.
By way of new jobs, the report says HSG also

(43:18):
claims the project will support six thousand construction jobs as
a comparison, the Intel project that's the new facility Intel's
building outside of Columbus. I recall, the Intel project is
estimated to support seven thousand construction jobs over the course
of a build, a project that is roughly ten times

(43:39):
the size of the Browns planned full phase build out.
AH just because the Sports Group says it's going to
happen apparently has no connection with reality. Back to the report,
the proposal for prepaid rent does not even equal one

(44:01):
year of debt service. Remember debt service. You're doing bonds
for the six hundred million. It's going to end up
costing the all the state of Ohio a billion dollars
over the life of the bonds. So prepaid rent doesn't
even equal one year of debt service the proposal. Proposal
either adds six hundred million dollars to the total the

(44:21):
total general fund backed debt included in the last capitol budget,
or it pre spends six hundred million dollars of the
next capital budget. The state has major unfinished business to
tackle in the upcoming capital bill. Now I dwell on that,
because this is something I'm the point I've been making
all along about this nonsense. Does Hamilton County have unfinished

(44:44):
business that needs to be funded? In other words, if
you take the tax money that they're taking from us
and going to the pay Course stadium in the upgrades
that we're obligated to pay for under that terrible LEASA
deal that they're dealing with, is there anything else on
Hamilton that's being left idle or otherwise not being taken
care of. I'm sure someone's got a list. The report

(45:08):
also notes the projected economic impact forecasted by the Sports
Group runs directly counter to decades of research and evidence
about the cost and benefits of professional sports stadiums. Despite
the large role sports play in the American culture, professional
sports teams are modest size enterprises compared to the local

(45:31):
gross domestic product. In other words, no, the games don't
generate near the revenue that they claim they generate. The
report concludes, for these reasons, OBM does not support the
proposal as currently outlined in the amendment. Remember it ain't over.

(45:55):
The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet on this one. Because
Cleveland is going to get their six hundred million dollars
in bonded subsidies from the Ohio taxpayer. And once that
came out, the Browns stood or the e Bengals stood
up and said hey, hey, hey, what about us? And
so did FC Cincinnati. And I'm sure there are other
sports venues in the state of Ohio that are also

(46:16):
going to want to get their hand in the cookie jar,
So you end up paying for these monstrosities.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
Boll.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I know it hasn't passed the Senate yet, but what's insulting,
Joe is that they're even considering this. They didn't think
there was gonna be some measure of protest. I mean
the OBM itself. I'm surprised that Ohio's Office a Budget
Management came out with this, this shocking report and saying,
wait a minute, what the hell you guys dueling, but

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that they had the gall and the nerve to just
select the Cleveland Browns and this has them sports group
to be the recipient of state taxpayer dollars to the
exclusion of all the other sports facilities out there and
team owners out there, but that the concept is even
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That's next Wednesday. Speaking a listener lunch. Always play a
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my submarine or friend. Welcome back to the program, sir,
well sir, Before.

Speaker 9 (48:44):
I get to my comment about this school that they're
trying to ram down our throats out here in Clarmont County,
another very important issue about the Bengals is that for
all the money and the millions and billions that they
want to spend on escalators and luxury suites, because guy
already knows what our disco ball and the ball in
the locker room, so that's not needed. That stadium, that

(49:05):
facility right now is booked for thirteen events, yeah, Bengal games,
one preseason game, the three days at the Jazz Festival,
and Billy Joel and Rod Stewart. So for three hundred
and fifty two days that mausoleum will send it empty.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, and that is that's extra insulting because of course
the Lisagram we signed in two limits what can be
done there, and the Bengals have to say over that.
So your excellent point, Mike, I'm glad you made it.

Speaker 9 (49:29):
So moving out here to wonderful Claremont County, once again,
they are trying to push through a school levy. Of course,
during a special election because they want minimal turnout. But
I'm very pleased to see as I drive around and
all I see is no signs. That's all you see
about spun social media as well, And I want to

(49:52):
thank our listener, lunch friend Kevin, that supplied me with
ten signs that I have very proudly distributed through my
neighborhood than five years ago after they told us there
would not be any burden put on the taxpayers when
they built that cathedral over there that is called West
Clarmont High School and all of its athletic facilities that
any community college would be pround to own due to

(50:15):
the sale of the former Glennasdee High School. Five years later,
they came back and they pushed through a levee. In
twenty twenty. Between that levee and the recently triannual property assessment,
me and my neighbor's property taxes increased sixty three percent.
Oh oh my, here we go again. Here we are

(50:37):
again trying to push this through. And just as an
anecdotal point, once again, this is where review committees like
DOGE needs to happen within the West Clermont Department of Education.
I just happened to be driving down Cloff Pike right
when the middle school, which is the former Amelia element

(50:58):
Amelia High School, which is now the West common On
Middle School, was letting out. Brian, as God is my witness,
I sat there because the cops got to stop traffic.
I sat there and counted forty nine school buses pull
out of a middle school which, according to their website,
has an enrollment of seventeen hundred and eighty six students.
Every one of those school buses maybe had ten to

(51:19):
fifteen kids on it. My tax dollars should not be
paying for yellow Uber service. There is no bus service
to the high school. So all of those buses and
I know going past where they parked the buses or
even more buses, and I'm sure some of those buses
eventually go and pick up the elementary school kids.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Once again, you.

Speaker 9 (51:39):
Need to look at your process as what you've got
now and not just run back to the taxpayers and
expect to fund your projects.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I still can't get over your property tax built one
up sixty three percent.

Speaker 9 (51:51):
Sixty three percent, yes, sir, and I've been in this house.
We built it nineteen years ago. It was pretty much
flat until that school every went through and then we
just had the recent triangle which everybody took a bath
on two as well, and not only with this one,
which I you know, I've only been back here since
twenty oh four when I retired from the Navy, but

(52:14):
this is the first one that I can remember as
far as the school Evy goes, because not only is
it going to be once again a mill towards our
property tax, but they are also going to be taxing
our income. So it's it's if I believe the numbers
are right, it's like sixty seven per every hundred thousand
on the mill, and then another fifty three dollars for
every fifty thousand on your income.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Wow. Well that's a eye opening and I'm glad you
called in, and I'd be a firm no on that.

Speaker 9 (52:44):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I got a prior engagement tonight, but
if anybody is available at six pm at Merwin ten mile,
the board is trying going to lay out their plan
prior to tuesday election. So six pm Merwin ten Mile tonight,
the Board of Education or the superintendent is going to
lay out up there and they put out this night's
eight page glossy you know everything, and all the numbers

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and the beautiful pictures of the kids, and I'm sure
they're going to be out on the corners, you know,
waving and you know, getting everybody to vote.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Guests.

Speaker 9 (53:13):
But as uplifting as it is to see all the
no signs, no signs, isn't going to get it done
if you haven't already voted absentee or go to vote
early down at the Board of Election in Batavia by
Saturday that out come see us on Tuesday. We'll be
more than happy to because I can tell you the
lines aren't going to be that long.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Isn't that You've got to brote this down? Well, you
just got people up off the couch and heading to
the Board of Elections today or putting on their calendar
a reminder to get in and vote on election day.
Appreciate the info, Mike Man. I cannot imagine. I'm just
thinking of my own personal tax bill one up, sixty
three percent. Geez, Louise, it's already outrageous. I cannot imagine that.

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I'm doing pretty good all things considered.

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like I live out Clairemont County. Also, yeah, I'll definitely
be there putting a know on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
You know, when when Mike said his tax bill party
is actually one of sixty three percent, did you experience
a similar increase because that's still blowing my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Yeah, it's just I have an XL. The boss takes
care of all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Okay, you married.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
She'll let me know. But uh, well, the other two
things I called about was I shout out to the VA.
I had called you back in February, just prior to
my prostate cancer surgery, and at that time, my PSA
level was at.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
A six and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And uh, just the care I received at the VA,
my PSA is now down to a zero point zero one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Oh my god, that's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I still have one MRI with contrast in June, just
to double check everything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Oh god, bless then.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah, it's been a little bit of a recovery, but
you know, back to work and everything. So and then also, uh,
you know, I'm at that sixty five Medicare age. So
I wanted to talk to John Rohlman a cover Sinc.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah you should do that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah, he hooked me up with a veteran's PPO plan.
It's pretty awesome, pretty pretty awesome, And the cost is
it's not that much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
But uh but I also gave that information to my
boss because I worked for a small family owned business,
so he's going to look into it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Also, that's that's that's wise. I'm and thank you not
only for supporting the sponsors, but I think you're doing
the right thing by your fellow employees. If you can
get some insurance coverage that is affordable and actually covers things,
which John and that team does, that's that's good for everybody. So,
you know, sounds like a plug for the for the team.
But man, they're doing some great things for folks out

(01:01:45):
in my listening audience.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Oh yeah, yeah. And John he's a hell of a
nice guy, very smart, goes, knows right where to go,
you know, covers all the bases.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
So and a shooting buddy of mine, so he's got
that going for him too. Great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
But anyway, I just wanted to give you that good news.
That's one I will definitely be going to the polls
on Tuesday and put a big no on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Big no on the tax levy. Yeah, boy, Mike spelled
out the bad news on that one. That's just amazing.
God property taxes out there. Mark, thanks for your service
to our country and I appreciate you was not only
supporting the sponsors, doing the right thing by yourself by
doing so. Anyway, if I went three seventy two to three
pound five point fifty on AT and T phones. You know,
after we're talking to hold On, I can remember his name,

(01:02:37):
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You should definitely listen to the podcast. It's eye opening.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
But the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Rage that's out there in the left, and that's what
it is. It's it's rage. And I don't know if
they have all suffering from Trump arrangements at syndrome, But
when you listen to the screams and the whaling and
the gnashing of teeth. Amid all of that screaming and
whaling and teeth gnashing, they're not saying anything specific. What

(01:03:14):
are they raging against. It's rage for the sake of rage.
They don't want some measure of reform in government because
we are running ourselves into basically bankruptcy. I know made
this point before, but I see what Governor JB. Pritzker
and now he wants to run for president and he's

(01:03:36):
the governor of the state of Illinois, which is just
like it's almost worse than the federal government in terms
of their deficit and their problems with their pension plans.
And they're as upside down a lopside as possible. That's
because the Democrats have been running the show now forever
in Illinois. I know I live there in the city
of Chicago. But he's calling from mass protests. This is

(01:04:00):
what he had to say the other day. Never before
in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization,
for disruption, But I am now. These Republicans cannot know
a moment of peace. They have to understand that we
will fight their cruelty with every megaphone and microphone that

(01:04:23):
we have. We must castigate them on the soapbox and
then punish them at the ballot box. Huh. Not much
of a unifier, would you say? And so what, mister Pritsker,
are you planning on running on rage? It's time to

(01:04:50):
fight everywhere and all at once. Pritsker later clarified to
reporters he was only referring to political action. Most people
didn't buy into it. Donald Trump Junior in the post,
are you trying to inspire a third assassination attempt on

(01:05:10):
my dad?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Two?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Wasn't enough for you, Senator Dave McCormick said Pritsker's comments.
The comments the latest demonstration that Democrats out of touch.
One of the biggest successes that Trump first hundred days
has been securing our southern border and keeping Americans safe.
Democrats drumming up mass protests opposing this obvious success story

(01:05:31):
shows just how out of touch they are with everyday Americans.
And don't they recognize that one of the things Donald
Trump repeatedly ran on, just like he did in backing
his first term, securing the border. It was something that
everybody was in favor of, one of the reasons he
won the election, but more fundamentally, something that people are
still broadly in favor of. I mean, you know, you

(01:05:54):
had countries emptying their prisons and sending them here. And
because because Donald Trump is doing his best to protect
the American population, including people of all political stripes, from
this dangerous criminal element who is not in our country lawfully,
doing his best to throw them out, you're going to
rage over that. I don't know. I can't make any

(01:06:19):
sense out of it at all. But division is at
the key at the core of these Marxists. This is
what it's all about. Divide, divide, divide in any area
of politics, in any area of society, I think we

(01:06:40):
should be really focused on the freedom and liberties that
we're all entitled to in this country, rather than yelling
and screaming and hating each other. And that seems to
boil down to what it actually is. There's hatred, literal
hatred coming from the other side of the political Ledger
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Climont County on that school Levey, which Mike explained earlier
in the program as a hard no on that considering
his tax has already went up sixty three percent, Kevin said,
my taxes prior to twenty twenty were nineteen hundred. Now
they're thirty nine to sixty two. The school got eleven

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hundred and now they get eighteen thirty five. You make
your own conclusions, but there's a reason to vote in
Clairemont County, that's for sure. Uh. Speaking of enforcing the
law and dealing with criminal elements, the State Department revoked
visas for four thousand foreign students, reported by Fox News,
ninety percent of whom have serious criminal records. Senior State

(01:08:55):
Department officials speaking with Fox News, our visa system has
lacked oversight and accountability. Over the past one hudred days,
the Trump administration has worked to fix a broken system.
Secretary of Mark Ruby has led the State Department to
take the surgical vetting approach to ensure individuals in America
as visitors are abiding by our laws. We established an
action working group, which has resulted in thousands of visas
being revoked because these individuals broke our laws. This is

(01:09:19):
what effective governance look like. Are you going to protest that?
Identified crimes include arson, wildlife and human trafficking, child endangerment,
domestic abuse, driving under the influence, and robbery. New York
Posts first reported on this More than five hundred those
impacted students whose visas were revoked have criminal assault records.

(01:09:42):
Sour speaking of the posts they came and they were
breaking the law with no consequences. We set up the
Special Action Team to handle this. State Departments folksperson said
that the Department revokes visas every day in order to
secure America's borders and to keep our community safe, and
we'll continue to do so. Trump administration is focused on
protecting our nation and our citizens by upholding the highest
standards of national security and public safety. Through our visa process,

(01:10:06):
Every perspective traveler to the United States undergoes interagency security vetting.
Prohibiting entry into the United States by those who might
pose a threat to the US national security or public
safety is a key to protecting US citizens at home.
The Department of State will continue to work closely with
the Department of Homeland Security to enforce zero tolerance for
aliens in the United States who violate US laws, threatn

(01:10:28):
public safety, or in other situations were where warranted. H
Wow calling you a serious matter and pointing out there
is no right to a student visa to come to
get a degree. Marco Rubia pointed out visas should be

(01:10:50):
given to students who want to come and study and
get a degree, become in the United States as a
visitor and create a ruckus for us. We don't want
it vandalizing a live taking over a campus. Citing those specifically,
he said, so when we identify lunatics like these, we
take away the student vitas visas. No one's entitled to
a student visa. The press covers student visas like there's

(01:11:12):
some sort of birthright. No, he said, a student vita
visa is like me inviting you into my home. If
you come into my home and pull all kinds of
crap on my couch, I'm going to kick you out
of my house. And so you know that's what we're
doing with our country thanks to the President. You're going
to rage against that. You know, half the world wants

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to come and attend a US university for reasons that
are escaping me of late, to come and get a
woke in doctrinated education and then to well engage in
anti Semitic activities. Nazis did that, and yet they are
praised and supported and protected by these left wing six

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fifty five, a man who has wonderful thoughts, comments and opinions,
love having Jack added it on the program. Already hear
from Jack out of the top of the air, news
sor Sanders and politics the subject matter of his comments today.
Looking forward to that, followed by Donovan and Neil House
and Senate back from a two week hiatus, they're going
to be voting on the Ohio Energy Bill. We'll learn
about the consequences of that. With Donovan at seven thirty.

(01:12:22):
I sure hope he can stick around covering Trump's first
one hundred days.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Every day we stand on the verge of the four
greatest years in American history.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Fifty five KRS the talk station. This report seven oh
six on a Wednesday, extra special time here on the

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fifty five KRC Morning Show because we get to enjoy
the amazing, brilliant commentary of Jack ad and welcome back.
It's time for the Big Picture with Jack Advid and Jack,
thank you so much for coming on the program every week.
Everybody love you, man, you for having me back again. Brother,
all these positive comments when you speak, I get lots
of emails. Man. You know, Jack sound great? What do
you make great points? And that's that's just the case

(01:13:15):
week after week after week. So I just want to
load up high praise on you and say you knew
and you knew that's the way my listeners feel.

Speaker 11 (01:13:22):
And you know, year after year, decade after decade, I
just keep praising you to your face and so glad
to have the chance to do it on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I just heard you.

Speaker 11 (01:13:32):
Talking about how the Bengals and the Browns statewide want
to bleed taxpayers for these stadiums that were shocking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Oh my god, it's so insulting, especially given the times
we're in now, inflationary pressures, real estate taxes through the roof,
grocery bills through the roof. I mean, people are struggling,
and here's this billion dollar wealth family asking demanding that
you force the terms of this stupid stadium deal and
get more tax money from us, and then adding insult

(01:14:01):
to injury. Are represented as in Columbus at least in
the House think it's worthy of going up paying a
billion dollars to give six hundred million dollars overtime in
bonds to the to the Cleveland Browns. I'd like to
know what that haslom family has them sports group has
on our elected officials in Columbus, Jack is, how did
they finagle that kind of money out of them?

Speaker 11 (01:14:21):
I'd like to know how Jimmy has them things about
building a team. Because the shocking story out of the
NFL draft was how should Dor Sanders player of the
Year for the Big Twelve Johnny Unitis Golden Arm Award
winner Shaudure Sanders coached since the cradle by his dad,

(01:14:42):
Neon Dion, the beloved prime time who resurrected Colorado football
with Shadour. How quarterback Shador Sanders was passed up by
every team in the NFL through four rounds and finally
taken by the geniuses about stadium, not about football up
in the part in the expression Cleveland, folks, even if

(01:15:05):
you don't follow football, which should interest all of us,
is to light this story sheds on what we always
talk about Bryan politics, because politicians all faced the same
temptations that Chadur did. It's the lure and the potential
downfall of living in a bubble. Chador was so confident

(01:15:28):
that he was going to be a top draft pick
he started wearing New York Giants cleats before the Alamo Bowl,
back when the Giants were expected to pick first. Chador
skipped workouts for other teams. He's reported to have given
some of the worst interviews with gms and coaches, ever,
apparently on purpose, because his father had already suggested that,

(01:15:50):
like John Elway and Eli Manning, he and Shador would
find ways to keep him from being drafted by teams
they didn't like. By the way, John Elway and Eli
Manning are white. Some people are now claiming that racism
accounts for the Shador slide, But the number one consensus

(01:16:11):
pick in this draft was another quarterback, cam Ward, who
is black. The best current NFL quarterback Patrick Mahomes is black,
so it was two time MVP Lamar Jackson, as well
as Super Bowl MVP Jalen Hurts. We don't have time,
Brian to run down the list. What seems clear is

(01:16:31):
that Shador Sanders lived and this is the key in
a bubble, and history shows how dangerous that can be.
Ancient Rome used to throw triumphs for victorious generals. Crowds
lined the streets, shouting their heads off and worshiping the
general as a god. But standing behind each general in

(01:16:54):
his chariot was a slave who would repeat continuously, remember
you are mortal, you know who did not have anyone
repeating that warning from Napoleon Bonaparte, for one, No one
dared tell him that invading Russia with winner approaching could
cost him his throne. Then, even knowing Napoleon's fatal mistake,

(01:17:17):
no one had the guts to tell Adolf Hitler that
he was crazy who invade Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I was just thinking that I forgot about the Napoleon things.
That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:17:27):
Politicians of both parties now are surrounded by sick offens,
hangers on and supposed loved ones who refuse to tell
them the truth, usually because they crave a place by
the throne. And here are you know, my Brian. I'll
make a somewhat off colored joke. It's nothing compared with
Greg Gutfeldt. But at one of my stations in Cincinnati,

(01:17:49):
one of the best known politicians in Ohio was followed
by one of his henchmen into the bathroom before our
interview began, and it was a one stall bathroom. What
is going on with this guy? Clung to him like
as Siamese twin? Was Jill Biden willing to tell Joe
the truth? Was Doug Amhoff willing to tell Kamala? And

(01:18:11):
I know Republicans today who will turn on you like
a banshee for suggesting Donald Trump may be wrong about anything.
In fairness, these sick offens and loved ones like the
politicians live in a hermetically sealed chamber where their own
fawning press brands any criticism fascist or racist or whatever.

(01:18:35):
That's one of the greatest threats in today's media world.
You can choose to live in your own echo chamber.
Great Britain and most of Europe now rail against any's
so called right of free speech. In our own country,
the left no longer defends the First Amendment. The CEO
of taxpayer funded National public Radio, Catherine Marr, has even said,

(01:18:58):
quote our reverence for the truth might be a distraction
that is getting in the way of finding common ground
and getting things done. End quote But not end, Catherine,
She is still there and we're paying for that. That's why,
with your help, Brian, over the years, I have repeatedly
urged everybody to start the day listening to you, but

(01:19:21):
also reading RealClearPolitics dot com, which offers diametrically opposed viewpoints
on every major issue. But who is doing that for
our politicians? Who is doing that for Shador Sanders. Sanders,
at least, in fairness, now has the chance in the
Cleveland Browns organization. It's island of Nisfittoy's quarterback room to

(01:19:44):
compete for the job, and he has the chance to
regain humility. Since the draft, his public statements have been terrific.
President Trump, we know reads or hears every left wing
media blast against him because he fight fight, fights back.
And it's just a guess, but I bet that Malaniga

(01:20:05):
is not afraid. It's certainly not so ambitious. She's more
than willing to tell Donald, remember you are mortal, even
though God spared you from a bullet success. Folks can
be our worst enemy. We make our worst mistakes when
we were riding high. So remember the Roman generals and

(01:20:25):
remember what happens to ancient Roma.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
What do you say? Well, you know, part of being.
He reflected on Trump's first term, and I was very
critical of his regularly going to Twitter and commenting on
liver literally every criticism that he received with some off
color remark, he usually ended up getting more criticism heaped
down upon him. It's like, doesn't he have anyone near
him telling him don't hit the send button because a

(01:20:50):
lot of them were really unnecessary. And I will argue
somewhat childish, and some people loved him for doing that,
and I always found it to be not only unpresidential,
but not beneficial to his administration in his presidency, So
you know, there's a little bit of that going on there.
But the other thing I was.

Speaker 11 (01:21:09):
Not happy how for months he has been needlessly insulting Canada.
I'm not saying that don't deserve to be a tariff.
There are a lot of things we should expect of Canada,
including we're spending on defense, but the insults have given
us another left wing government there, led by this guy
Mark Karney, and that can't help. However, I do push

(01:21:31):
back against people who say, why can't Trump lay out
a clear plan for the negotiations in Ukraine and Iran
and especially with the terriffs, and I think they do
fail to realize that Donald Trump does have a plan
in his apparent chaos, and that is that he wants
to keep all options open. He wants to seem crazy,

(01:21:51):
and that's why people are afraid of what he might
wind up doing. And I predict that very soon, maybe
even starting this week, because Howard Lutnik, Commerce Secretary, says
he has a deal now in his pocket. It's just
a matter of waiting to announce it, and it could
be a big one. I think that we're going to
start seeing one tariff deal after another. I think that

(01:22:13):
Russia and Ukraine eventually will come to their senses. Israel,
of course, is a tough nut, but apparently Trump is
talking with Iran. And remember in the last administration and
even among Republicans, nobody was even proposing to do these things.
And I'm not talking at this point about the border,
which is an amazing triumph after one hundred days.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
It really is. But in so far you know Russia Ukraine,
this one always puzzles me.

Speaker 7 (01:22:37):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
I think Trump is a pragmatist when it comes to this,
and I talk about this with Daniel Davis every Tuesday
on the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. I mean data segment
just spells it straight out. Russia has the advantage militarily speaking,
number of troops speaking, and Ukraine is is running out
of people. So every day that passes Russia gains the

(01:22:59):
the advantage. At the negotiation table, well, Zelenski just stands
there and says, no, no, no, I will not see
an inch of land. That is not being pragmatic, but
aside from the logistical realities of that conflict. I just
keep scratching my head. How is it that the United
States becomes the key that Donald Trump is either going

(01:23:19):
to be blamed for whatever resolution comes or patted on
the back for whatever resolution comes, when it's up to
Zelenski and Putin to agree on any terms of any agreement.
How common is that the United States has put in
a position of being the sole person in charge of
any global conflict.

Speaker 11 (01:23:35):
I mean, well, we may not Trump, you know, just
a few days ago said I may yet walk away
from this thing if you two guys can't get together.
But it can't be set often enough, and it's not
passing the buck. It's just the opposite. Trump inherited all
of this crap, and you know there was nothing going
on between Russian and Ukraine. We've gone through it before,

(01:23:55):
George W. Bush allowing Putin to go into Georgia, Barack
Obama give crimea Joe Biden talking about being okay to
the minor incursion and then setting the energy up in
such a way that Russia was able to pay for
this war. We can go all the way through the
last sure years, but you know the fact is that
Trump was given a terrible hand and I was just

(01:24:16):
trying to bring peace.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Well, you know, I guess again, how is it that
we're supposed to be the police force for everybody? You know,
we didn't owe any defense obligation to Ukraine. So you
can say what you want about, you know, putin having
the stones or feeling like you got green lit to
go into Crimea during the Obama administration. Obama didn't do
anything but ask yourself the question, well, what obligation did

(01:24:39):
Barack Obama have to do something about it? We're not
it's a military conflict. We have no engagement or obligation
to Ukraine. I mean, if our NATO allies were concerned
about it that Ukraine's not a NATO member, then they
could have stepped up to the plate and done something
about it. Yet Obama gets blamed for that, and.

Speaker 11 (01:24:58):
I think we do have to remember that back in
the early nineties we were one of the parties asking
Ukraine to give up all of the nuclear weapons that
it had inherited when the Soviet Union broke up. Did
that give us a defense obligation? I don't think so,
But there is an interest everybody has I think in peace.
I worry about Zelensky because I think he may have

(01:25:20):
his own agenda there. You know, they're living under a
military rule at this point. It's a state of emergency.
There have been no elections, and I don't know when
there will be.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Right, Well, again, did all this ends up falling in
the United States? Lap? I just again I scratched my
head over it and just kind of wonder how it
is that it has landed at our lap and we
are held Well, that.

Speaker 11 (01:25:42):
Was yes, circling back that that's why Trump was insulting Canada.
He said, you know, my fellow Americans, you have no
idea what we paid to subsidized Canada militarily and economically,
and that has to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
That you can make a good point on, but then
telling them that they need to be the fifty first
state and insulting and sort of ignoring the fact that
Canadians have pride and sovereignty. You know that that didn't
serve anybody's best interests and it still doesn't. I don't
know if you truly impacted the outcome of the election.
It's as if Canadians have no independent thought, logic or will,

(01:26:15):
I mean, they vote for who they want to vote for,
and that Donald Trump could actually change the course of
an election, that they think that their next prime minister,
if they vote for the conservative guy, is actually going
to relent to that sort of suggestion. I think it's nonsensical.

Speaker 11 (01:26:30):
The conservative Boulivar was ahead. Yeah, all those insults started.
I know that it was at least a factor, and
it was needless.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Well. Yeah, and I'm sure that social media was alive
with all the thoughts and comments and suggestions that somehow
that Bolivar was actually going to relent to the claims
or the suggestions of Donald Trump. And I don't believe
that for a moment anyway. Speaking of the echo Champion
just talked about before, Jack Addan, always wonderful having you
on the show. I really appreciate your thoughts and insights

(01:26:59):
and willingness to exchange ideas, and I will look forward
to next Wednesday as I always do. Best to health,
Love to you and your better half. Thanks so much.
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welcome back to the fifty five cars inay morning show,
my friend, praying great to be with you as always.
Hey man, before we get to the energy bill, can
I just throw a slight curveball at you, because I

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don't know if AFP is looking into this, but you
know they're doing budgeting and you got this, uh, and
we're struggling with the Cincinni Bengals here in Hamilton County.
Obviously it's a county issue for us because it's the
negotiated a lease from such some so many decades ago
that obligates the county to fund all these ridiculous upgrades
millions of dollars of upgrades I think a total of

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eight hundred and thirty plus million. So that's one issue.
But the Cleveland Browns were able to successfully lease in
the house negotiate a six hundred million dollars bond bill
to get a subsidy for their multi billion dollar Brook
Park facility they're doing. We've got to finance this. It's
gonna end up costing the high taxpayers a billion dollars

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over the years with debt service. The Office of Budget
Management came out with a critique of this thing, and
it just blew the lid off of it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
They say it was misrepresented, that the revenue generated from
the thing is nowhere near what they're saying, the number
of construction jobs that they claim we're going to be
created is ridiculous compared to reality. I mean, it's just
and ultimately it says for these reasons, OBM does not
support the proposal as currently outlining the amendment. The AFP

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chime in on this or do you have any insight
information as to what uh what what what goods the
Haslam Sports Group has on elected officials and columbus Because
this is not something I would think the Republicans would support,
if not for any other reason, then benefiting one Cleveland
sports team to the UH on the backs of all
Ohioans is fundamentally unfair and wrong on its face.

Speaker 8 (01:30:27):
Yeah, I mean, well, I think one thing to point
out here with this too is this isn't something that's
just new or unique, right, and so this has been
a problem for for many, many years, right, these public
private partnerships. However you want to slice or dice some right,
tax dollars or governments supporting private industry, right, Yeah, I

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think unfortunately, where we're where we're still at as a culture, right,
is this These aren't the kinds of issues that voters
talk about a lot until they saw a come up
like this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
What we also find is they never really work on
as well as as the.

Speaker 8 (01:31:09):
Lobbyists for the private industries pitch them to be right
in this case, the Cleveland Browns, they never really are
as rosy in reality as what the studies show. And
so my opinion, and maybe I'm a little maybe I'm
a little jaded on this stuff because we've seen it
for a lot of years and a lot of places
around the country is I think, you know, voters have

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got to get tax payers are going to get burned
a few more times before they start getting a little
louder with their lawmakers and demanding and maybe we don't
do these things right now, but now right they are.
This is I mean, we've got a number of these
scenarios from Intel to sports stadiums around the state that's

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the state or local tax payers have been a part
of financing. And what it comes down to folks just
letting their elected officials know they don't think this is
the best use of their tax dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
If that's what they think, well, I mean, given the
current times we're in inflation, strive, you know, is eating
up families resources. Your grocery bills are through the roof.
We could go on and on, and the needs of
you know, the demands on government. Everybody's got a list
of what they want and I would just like to think,
as a matter of common sense, and this is where
I go back to the elected officials, as a matter

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of common sense, since everybody's got a list of things
that they want the government to pay for the needs
of society, their neighborhoods, whatever, that the Cleveland Bounds multi
billion dollar sports complex would not be on that list,
and the idea that they're going to borrow this amount
of money and essentially give it to this private corporation
that's worth billions of dollars anywhere, This houslum sports group

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would just rub the rub the constituents the wrong way.
I mean, wait a second. You know somebody came in
like the lobbyists and gave me this proposal and looking
at me like are you out of your mind?

Speaker 12 (01:32:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
I mean just no, I'm not going down that road.
And what are the Bengals gonna say? We give the
brands six hundred million dollars? Well, guess what the Bengals
what They're hand in the cookie jar now too, so
does FC Cincinnati, our local soccer team. You know, it's
it's it's once this this genies out of the bottle,
it's revealed to the public that the Browns are going
to get a slice, everybody then wants to go to

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the well and get some too, so like you couldn't
see that coming a mile away, which means for me,
the answer of fundamentally and upfront should be no, don't
even bother asking.

Speaker 8 (01:33:28):
Well, I think I think something here too is you
know the way that they're doing this is through the
through a bond issue, and so the proposal is that
the money will be paid back over a period of time.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
And I'm not Brian making.

Speaker 8 (01:33:40):
A making the case for them or advocating for this right,
but that's one piece of it. I think the other
thing we've avoided that I think is a if there's
a spectrum of this not being a good idea, we've avoided,
which I think is on the extreme bad side of
that spectrum is creating new tax revenues to fund stadiums

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across the state. And that was the governor's original proposals.
We're going to raise taxes, increase taxes to fund stadium deals.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
So we've avoided and dodged that bullet. But the taxes
that they're taking from us are funding it. I mean,
it's a pot of money that is generated by the taxes,
and it's a finite amount of money every year they
do budgeting to deal within the confines of that much
money they're taking in A chunk of that money directed
to the Browns. That's what's got me bothered. I don't

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care about you know, I'm against raising taxes anywhere. Why
do they pick on sports gambling as opposed to any
other activity we choose to engage in. Fine, So we
can have that argument about the fundamental wrong in that concept,
and I agree with you taxes shouldn't be raised to
fund this, But why would any tax that will go
to fund this period? End of story.

Speaker 8 (01:34:56):
Well, like I said, I think, I think we see
this every every other there's something that's proposed where where
there's a you know, a private entity coming to the
tax than asking for a little support. And I think
that you know, again, I think I'm a little jaded
on it because we've seen it come a time and
time again, and ultimately, we need voters, you know, if
this is something that really bothers them to start making

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their voice hurt a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Run, I know you and you greaze the skids on
that and make it so easy for listeners to do that,
and we'll give them the information on how to do
that in connection with the upcoming energy which I'm sorry
to take you down this road, Donald, and I just
it's on it's on my mind this morning because the
vote here in Hamilton County came out yesterday two to
one to approve this memorandum of understanding what the Bengals,

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which is putting the Hamilton County taxpayers on the hook
for more than sixty million dollars of these upgrades, and
it's angered me. So thank you for indulging me and
going off on a tangent, Donovan. We'll bring you right
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Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Sifty bock krc DE talk station Very Happy Wednesday too,
Donald and Neil Americans for Prosperity can give us the
info and low down on Ohio's energy bill which apparently
is coming up for a vote. Donad what's the story
on this one?

Speaker 8 (01:38:14):
Well, yeah, you know, we've had for a number of
years and I've been on your show talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
Brian, the many many bad ideas coming.

Speaker 8 (01:38:21):
Out of Columbus when it comes to energy policy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Continuing the theme bad ideas, anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:38:29):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (01:38:30):
But there's some good stuff on the horizon, right And
we missed something we had heard a lot from folks,
and we had actually released a study alongside the Buckeye
Institute earlier this year outlining better energy policy for Ohio.
The good news is today, yesterday the Senate voted out
of commnial send of the floor today a bill from

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the House to increase energy generation here in the state,
eliminate subsidies and make it easier and more accessible to
the marketplace for both consumers and the way that the
energy distribution utilities make their rates that we pay on
our utility bills. Ideally, that goes to the House later
today and we'll have this to the Governor's desk here

(01:39:15):
in the coming weeks assigned into law. It's the biggest
in twenty five years since the deregulation efforts of the
late nineties, one of the most free market piece of
legislation on energy policy the state has seen in a
quarter of a decade. And we're really excited to see
this thing follow through and move by the end of
the day to day, well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Kind of to the chase. What does this mean for
the rate payers, or what do you anticipate this will
mean for ratepayers, Well, right out of the gate, we're
going to eliminate subsidies that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:45):
You're paying on your bill eighty million dollars according to
the Manufacturers Association of State of Ohio, eighty million dollars
this year's forecasted. If these subsidies remained in place, that
rate payers you and I Brian on our home utility
bills would be paying.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Hang in for what kind of what kind of activities?
What subs what is being subsidized? So it's being subsidized.

Speaker 8 (01:40:07):
Are two coal plants, one in the state of Ohio,
I understand in the state of Indiana that are held
over from Cold War era that we continue to subsidize
through what's going as the OVAX subsidies that we're at
the heart of the Hospital six scandal.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Interesting, So it's subsidy is something that that's that runs
along with obviously runs along with the money we pay
for the power generation. I mean, aren't we already paying
for the power generation? Why do they need to be subsidized?
And I guess how did this thing end up hanging
around for so many years and decades? Actually, well, like

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a lot of pieces of energy.

Speaker 8 (01:40:50):
And the way that energy policy has often been done
right is that we'll, you know, assettle lawmakers will identify
a favored energy generation source or friends in the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Last love wind and solar. Some of our friends on
the right love big nuclear and coal.

Speaker 8 (01:41:06):
And that what when I say all that, right, I'm
not slashing any one of those, I'm slashing the idea that, hey,
in order to do energy policy, I have to do
good for my friends and the other guys be damned right,
I got you. In this case, what we're doing is saying,
let's create a fair market. Let's not subsidize one favorite
industry over the other. Let's let the market decide and

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consumers will win.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
All right now, I note in the notes that this
legislation will ensure market forces and not bureaucrats and utility
lawyers decide energy prices. That means there's going to be
some semblance of reality related to how much it costs
to generate the power to what we're going to be
paying for it. That's right.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
Well, And part of what this does is when we
deregulated back in the late nineties, the idea was is
that the distribution utilities the Duke Energy is the first
energies of the world AP's of the world would go
out to the market and build their service offerings based
around real world prices. But they failed to do that

(01:42:09):
because they're clever and they they're they're looking out for
their bottom line, and so they went out and they
started creating doing it in other ways and working with
the regulators to do that. This makes very clear that
the only way state of Ohio you can determine energy
prices is through market rate offers, market service offers. And
so what that's going to enable us to do right

(01:42:29):
is really see the real price of energy and what
it's going to cost to get it delivered to our homes,
ensuring that again the market dot decides and consumers win well.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
And finally, I note that it's supposed to be it'll
speed up new energy generation in Ohio. And I'm one
of those big fans of modular nuclear plants, and I've
already talked with the thak Ramaswami about his perception of
nuclear and he embraces it wholeheartedly and believes that we
should be the number one, you know, date in the
Union for modular nuclear because it provides consistent, reliable, carbon

(01:43:05):
free energy if people care about carbon I don't know
why we've alway stood in the way of these moving
forward on this. Are we going to be able to
have that and will it be able to be actually
an achievable goal or is this just something that's going
to be put on paper and delayed for decades.

Speaker 8 (01:43:20):
Well, I think that's the idea. One of the things
here right I think we've got to remember is there's
a couple of layers. You've got the state and then
you've got the federal government, right that we've got to
work through on the state level.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
This solves that problem.

Speaker 8 (01:43:31):
We still need the federal government in the Trump administration
in Congress to do some of its work to make
sure that we can approve things like these small modular
nuclear reactors and most importantly improvem in a timely manner
here in Ohio. What I think that's going for us
on that front is they speed up the power sighting
board process. If you want to put a small modular

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clear reactor in one of these identified brownfield zones, they're
going to be able to get an answer on that
within forty five day. So you're waiting three years. Yeah,
forty five days the bureaucrats have to get you an
answer back. In other cases it's less than a year.
And so the legislature is making very clear you can't
slow walk new projects you alally get. If this generation
is the application is complete and filed, you've got to

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give these folks an answer, as well as lowering tangible
personal property taxes to make sure that you know, folks
are incentivized to build their energy projects here in Ohio
not in other states. And so I think this sends
a big signal and makes all how a big bright
shining light and saying, hey, if we need, if we're
going to need to solve our energy generation problem in
this country to handle the jobs we're trying to bring

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back to this country, Ohio is the place to cite
your energy projects, and we're going to do it in
a free market manner that rewards puts consumers at the
top of the pyramid, not energy companies.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
Well I like that, Okay, So forty five days to
approve it or deny it. Now, if they fail to
approve within forty five days and get provided answers, that
means it's automatically approved. Is it the default that it
will be approved because yeah, I know, in spite of
the rules and what are they're obligated to do, quite
often they ignore them. Maybe they're gonna have to run
into court to get a decision made. Or is there

(01:45:08):
is it built in there that it's just going to
be approved that they failed to do it in a
timely fashion.

Speaker 8 (01:45:14):
My understanding is that if the if the regulators fail
to act, the project will be defaulted to an approval.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Good. So this keeps these things moving and that's that's
the idea.

Speaker 8 (01:45:23):
And you think about things like the Keystone Excel pipeline, right,
that's constantly a topic of debate in national politics. The
problem there was you have one party in power for
a couple of years who slow walk it, and the
other who tries to get it done, and then they
slow walk their parties switch and they slow walk it.
We just need to make these decisions, Brian, so that
we can get energy, you know, energy generation onto the

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grid and running oh other thing on the micro on
the small modular reactors behind the meter. So there's going
to be increased opportunities for folks like the big data
centers that are large consumers of energy to create their
own energy generation without putting taxpayers on the hook.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Good.

Speaker 8 (01:46:02):
The other problem we see there is getting interconnected into PGM,
And so if we can speed up the ability for
data centers or other big users to generate their own energy,
they can get their energy online, get their jobs going,
get their production moving, and then figure out the interconnection
to PGM so the rest of the grid can access
that energy down the line. I think that's important again

(01:46:23):
to one protect rate payers and two speed up the
necessary generation of new energy we want in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Yeah, they have the demand. If they can be free
to generate that electricity, you know, the general population is
probably going to be able to glom onto that because
they don't need all electricity generated by a small nuclear reactor.
I mean that's sound policy right there. Donovan and Neil,
Americans for Prosperity. What is anything we can do to
help this process along or is it a foregone conclusion

(01:46:50):
at this point?

Speaker 8 (01:46:51):
Well, we're hoping it's a foregone conclusion, and that's rare, right,
Usually we're fighting bad ideas, but we believe this is
going to move through today. Well, we're gonna need listeners
to do once this gets done later today we're gonna
have a call to action to thank your lawmakers because
they've been up against a lot of heavy pressure from
the utilities. So we're gonna have folks reaching out to
thank lawmakers. I'll follow back up next time I'm on

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the show and give folks that call to action.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
If that's all right with you, No, that's wonderful. Praise
them when they're doing the right job, and give them
hell all the time when they're doing the wrong job,
because nine times out of ten it falls into the
latter category, which is why we have Americans for prosperity.
Donald and Neil, keep up the great work. I'll look
forward to our conversation next week. My friend Ryan always
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So you have a solid retirement dream, So heto five
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to you, Brian Thomas. Please to welcome to the fifty
five KRC Morning Show. Renowned author Richard J. Huddo. He
served as the White House Appointment Secretary of the Carter
family was Chairman of the Georgia Council for the Arts.
He is one of the foremost historians of the Gilded Age,

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author of a number of books on the Gilded Age,
I dont want to pick this one out and mention
it specifically, A peculiar tribe of people, murder and madness
in the heart of Georgia. Not only was it adapted
for television. I love what the Atlanta Journal Constitution talked
about this twenty ten book, a Southern grotesque that comes
complete with stately mansions, murder, most vile, forbidden sex, a

(01:49:15):
pot boiling trial, and a duma worthy of a Greek tragedy,
with an ending even Sophocles wouldn't wish on his worst enemy. Welcome,
I'm gonna have to read that one. Richard J. Huddo,
author of a book we're talking about today, The Countess
and the Nazis. It's a pleasure to have you on today, Richard.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:49:33):
I'm delighted to be here. Thanks for the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
I love that Atlanta Journal Constitution description. Anyhow, moving over
to your new book, The Countess and the Nazis, Sometimes
an American family's private war Gilded Age. The woman you
write about tell my listeners a little bit about her,
and I guess I'm kind of curious to know where
your fascination with the Gilded Age came in, that was

(01:49:56):
the late eighteen hundreds up to around nineteen hundred.

Speaker 13 (01:49:59):
Pers married these titled husbands, and of course very few
of them were love matches. Most of them were pretty
crass exchanges of a title for money. You know, if
my daughter is a duchess, then they have to accept me,
that kind of thing. But then when I came across
this particular woman, Muriel White, she was totally different. She
was out of the ordinary, very very wealthy, privileged background,

(01:50:24):
spoke five languages. I mean, she could have just been
a social diletante, you know, having cocktail parties with her friends.
But she didn't do that. She actually devoted herself to
her family and to the families of the people who
worked for her, and of course fought the Nazis from within.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Very unusual woman. So how did she get from America
to well what I ended up being Nazi Germany.

Speaker 13 (01:50:50):
Well, her father was probably the best ambassador of the
United States has ever produced, at least Teddy Roosevelt said so.
So her father had been an ambassador in France to France,
but she was born there in Paris, but born to
American parents, And so after the father was the first
secretary at the USM Missige in London, then ambassador to

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Italy and then ambassador to France. She had so of
course traveled with them and learned very early on sort
of all of the protocol that was necessary. Her mom
was ill quite a bit of the time, so Muriel
would step up and sort of take over her mother's role.
It was perfect for her. As I said earlier, she
had just wanted to be a social butterfly, but instead

(01:51:33):
she turned to a life of service and ended up
actually giving up her.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
Life because of it. Well, I understand she was the
wife of a Prussian count. That's right.

Speaker 13 (01:51:43):
She was only twenty nine, or rather was twenty nine
getting a little long in the tooth according to some people.
When she married Count monte sehertoss, as you said, was
a Silesian count. He was in the military. There, very
very old family. They moved though into the families after
she married. They moved into the family's secondary residence, which

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was sort of a dump. So she used her fortune
to bring it up to standards, to put in running
water and electricity and make sure that the servants, you know,
didn't have to bring buckets of water in from outside,
and she had then started taking care of all of
the families of all of the people who worked for her.
Her husband was not particularly helpful, but she kept doing

(01:52:27):
it anyway. And then with the rise of fascism and
also Nazism, she thought those things from within and got
her two draft age sons out of the country. And
for that, of course, the Gestapo kept coming to her
and saying, you have to return your sons their marriageable age.
You have to let us know where they are. Plus,
she had done other things like helping some pilots escape,

(01:52:49):
and they wanted to know how she did that, and
so that what they said to her was, unless you
return your sons to us, unless you tell us how
you've done all this, we're going to take you to Auschwitz. Notice.
And one particular morning she saw them turn into her driveway,
knowing what they were doing, that they were coming to
take her to Auschwitz, that she would be tortured, she
climbed up to the tower of her castle and jumped

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to her death instead.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Oh my word, yeah, quite a story. Oh my god. Yeah,
well that's amazing. Now did she she see the Nazis
for what they were At the outset I mean, the
fall of the Prussian bureaucracy is widely known, which is
what gave rise to the fascist movement. Was she aware
of the evil that they represented early on or did
she become aware of it as they began to increase

(01:53:36):
their power and ultimately get Adolf Hitler elected a bit
of the latter.

Speaker 13 (01:53:42):
The difference between her and her husband is that she
saw the evil as you said, she saw what they
were doing. She knew what was going to happen eventually.
Where is her husband only wanted things to go back
to the way they were. He wanted to have you know,
the Kaiser and all the nobility in and he thought, well, gee,
you know, I'm against only for that reason. So he

(01:54:02):
was rather lackadaisical in what he did. But she, as
you said, knew they were evil, knew what was coming,
and was against them from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
Well did she see the rise of the Italian fascists
as connected with this whole problem and recognize them also
for what they were doing?

Speaker 13 (01:54:20):
Absolutely? In fact, not only did she see it, she
wrote about it, and I've got that never before published.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Things in this book.

Speaker 13 (01:54:28):
But the reason she did that was because she was
in Albania helping her husband's cousin, Geraldine, the young Queen
of Albania, when she had her had a birth. The
Fascist were coming in just at that moment to overtake Albania,
so they threw Queen Geraldine, having had a Cicirian birth
the day before, threw her into the back seat of

(01:54:49):
a car and got out just as the Fascist were
landing in Albania. And as they said, Muriel was there
and saw it firsthand, and at the that even wrote
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
Fascinating. Now, what drove her altruism? You grew up really
really wealthy and the Gilded Age, as you kind of suggested,
It's really unlikely that you would be so altruistic and
you know, sacrificial and willing to help out people rather
than just go about your merry way and enjoy the
fruits and luxuries of being one of the wealthy and
the Gilded Age when there was so much poverty around.

(01:55:22):
Influenced by what or she just was just a sort
of an odd bird as we look at things, you know, objectively,
I think she was a bit of both.

Speaker 13 (01:55:30):
Her father, as I said earlier, was a great, great ambassador,
but he was one of the five US signatories to
the verysy peace treaty ending World War One, and so
she grew up with his influence. She also grew up
with a father who had been very wealthy and on
the family's estate, they took care of their families, all
the people who worked for them. So she grew up

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with that as the ideal, and she continued to do it. Descendants, actually,
if her servants family still talked about the Christmas Day
when all of the families and all all of the
children would be brought into the castle, have a huge breakfast,
you know, and then gifts everywhere, And so there are
people who still talk about that because of her kindness,
she really was unusual for a time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
How about that? Now, I presume that throughout the entire
the Nazi regime there was some form of underground resistance.
I mean many movies about that. You had the French
underground resistance and all that kind of thing. Was she
a part of some underground organized anti Nazi group or
did she just sort of do what she was able

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to do independently.

Speaker 13 (01:56:34):
She did it independently. There was one exception, though, in
nineteen thirty six, when the Nazi Olympics happened in Berlin.
She and her husband were invited to one of the
viewing boxes at the Olympics, and Hitler came and actually
sat in their box. She said to him, I know
who you are and what you're planning to do, and
I'm going to do everything to stop you. He threw

(01:56:56):
his head back and laughed and said, oh, Madam, don't
be so serious. At the same time they were that couple,
they were meeting with other officers who were opposed to
Hitler to try to find out ways to ways to
oppose him. So they were part of that. But as
I said earlier, it was a difference in many just
wanting to go back to the old ways where Muriel

(01:57:19):
knew of this evil and wanted to stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Now did she help the Jewish community anyway? Obviously? Could
Kayler project very clear messages regarding his feelings about and
what he was planning on doing with the Jewish population,
rounding them up and putting them in slums and ultimately
endeavoring to exterminate them. What was her connection, if any,
to the Jews in the Greater German region.

Speaker 13 (01:57:46):
She was absolutely responsible for saving a Jewish family, the Letterers.
He had been one of the court tailors, and when
war was coming, when the Jews were being pushed out,
he wrote to many of his clients, very very well
well placed clients, saying, would you invite me and my

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family and your country so we can get out. No
one would respond to him because they said that, you know,
they didn't want to help a Jewish family, but Muriel did.
She was able to get the money for them. She
was able to arrange their visas, able to get them
to England to get onto a ship. They eventually resettled
in Australia, and they were always grateful to her because

(01:58:29):
she was able to do that, not only for the
money to move, but also because once they got there,
Australia didn't, of course want them to become wards of
the state, so it required them to have a certain
amount of money to start life. And so she arranged
all of that the letter. Her family got all the
way to Australia, and we're very happy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
There was her father still alive when she threw herself
to her own death.

Speaker 13 (01:58:55):
No, her father had died in the twenties. After her
mother died, her father remarried to want to come onder
of Vanderbilt's granddaughters and who was very helpful with money,
because these heiresses had their funds cut off by the
US Congress. The Congress said, look, if you're going to
marry into a family that's going to fight your country,
we're not going to let you have access to this money.

(01:59:17):
So fortunately, using diplomatic pouches and all that sort of thing,
she was able to get money from her stepmother and
to be able to use that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
She was able to keep her sons from being constricted
in the Hitler's army. What became of her children.

Speaker 13 (01:59:33):
Great question of four months after her death, her eldest
son was in the United States. He went through basic
training at Camp Wheeler and Macon Georgia, took the oath
of office, renounced his citizenship back in Silesia in Germany,
and went back as a US officer. However, they would

(01:59:53):
only let him go to London because they knew someone
who looked as Arryan as he did with a double
barreled German name would be recognized, so they changed They
changed his name only because they knew that that would be,
you know, a mark for somewhat somebody to come across
that name but he went, as I said, back to

(02:00:14):
England and he questioned imprisoned Germans to get information from them.
You can imagine some of them who recognized him. We're
rather cruel and mean about it, but that's okay. He
did his job and in his mind he was able
to avenge his mother's death in that way.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Wow, this is an amazing story. Countess and the Nazis.
By my guests today, Richard J. Hudo, who is an
expert on the Gilded Age and quite quite a few
books on it. You can tech him out online and
maybe get a copy of some of his other books.
But also the Countess of the Nazis. We've Rick. We
put your book on my blog page of fifty five
cars dot com so my listeners can easily obtain a

(02:00:51):
copy of it, which I'm sure they're going to want
to do. It's Countess in the Nazis, an American family's
private war. Fascinating conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
Rick.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
I really appreciate you spending time with my listeners and
me today and thanks for putting us down a paper.
You got a lot of the material I understand from
never before published memoirs as well as declassified CIA documents.
Real quick. How long ago were these documents declassified? I
always find it fascinating that documents remained classified for literally
decades and decades beyond the period of time that they

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relate to for reasons wholly unknown to me.

Speaker 13 (02:01:24):
Well, in this case, they were from two thousand and
seven was when they were declassified, but most people had
not gone through them. They relate to the invasion of Albania,
the fact that she was there, and then what happened
afterwards when the United States tried to put King Zog
back on the throne. He was sort of the worst
of our rather the best of some bad choices. And

(02:01:47):
so that's where those documents came from. And as I said,
they were declassified in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
Got to do your research to come up with a
book like this, and thanks for doing it. Rick, It's
been a real pleasure having you on the program.

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Speaker 3 (02:03:43):
My friend, I didn't even know that Kentucky Derby was
this weekend. It's really not something that's on my rate screen,
understood Thomas Massey or Rand Paul. But it's not something I.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
Follow understood, and I mentioned Cock. I'm asking the lead
up to the segment because as I told you yesterday
when I got your column, which is always brilliant and
is always on point, that I said, you know, sometimes
my listeners disagree with you, and I suggested that probably
they would disagree with you because your position relative to
Judge Dugan, who was scheduled to preside over hearing against

(02:04:19):
the Mexican national Eduardo Flores Ruiz, who had been charged
with criminal batteries. So he's in her courtroom and the
immigration officials show up armed with an arrest warrant that
an immigration official had issued. And I think this is
where your argument hinges on that the Fourth Amendment in
your mind, in the mind of the judge disagrees and says,

(02:04:43):
this is not an official warrant. This is not something
that is constitutional on its face. Er go, she's not
obstructing anything because the immigration official doesn't have the actual
constitutional authority to issue an arrest warrant himself. Have I
got that basic r Yes, you do have that right.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
And this is a good faith.

Speaker 14 (02:05:05):
And from my perspective, and I presume hers widely held
judicial view of the Fourth Amendment, that these administrative warrants
are unconstitutional and government officials are not obligated to comply
with them.

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
Hey, judge, there's a guy in the hallway that wants
to arrest a person in your courtroom. What should we do?
Does he have an arrest warrant?

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
Okay, tell him to go take a hike. Let me
see what he has. This isn't an arrest warrant. I'm
not going to honor it. And for that she gets arrested.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Well, and here's me. This is where I think that
the confusion perhaps comes in or the immediate actions. You know,
she should have been arrested because she's obstructing administrative law
or the immigration law. A federal magistrate found probable cause
for her arrest in basically this act of quote unquote obstruction.

(02:06:03):
So is this one of those analysis like you and
I have that the federal government is violating our Fourth
Amendment rights to be free of unreasonable searches, their Fifth
men rights to be free on unreasonable searches and seizures
that they do all the time. But it's never been
tested in court kind of arguments. I mean, this is
the law on the books, right.

Speaker 14 (02:06:22):
Well, if if evidence were obtained from an administrative warrant,
it can't be.

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
Used in court.

Speaker 14 (02:06:31):
So to that extent, it's been tested because it's obviously
in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
But this is also in violation of the concept of federalism.

Speaker 14 (02:06:41):
I cited the recent Supreme Court cases reminding everybody that
the states are sovereign, and one an instrument of sovereignty
is the state court system, and the Feds can't interfere
with it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
I remember a case it wasn't a sign to me
but one of my colleagues, and that was on the
bench of.

Speaker 14 (02:07:00):
An FBI agent who was stopped on the Garden State Parkway,
which is the main highway that goes along the spine
of New Jersey north to south, going eighty five miles
an hour.

Speaker 3 (02:07:12):
And he actually came into Gordon said, well, I work
for the FBI. I'm not bound by New Jersey law.

Speaker 7 (02:07:19):
They locked him up.

Speaker 3 (02:07:21):
It took his gun and his shield and locked him up.

Speaker 14 (02:07:23):
And nobody gets locked up for speeding, but you do
get locked up for interfering with the sovereignty of a state.
That's probably And it wasn't, as I said, it wasn't
I who locked him up. It was one of my colleagues.
You don't toy with the concept of sovereignty. You respect
the court. You don't show up with something that is

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arguably not even a warrant and expect a judge to stop.

Speaker 3 (02:07:51):
What she's doing to comply with what you want. So
I know this is an unpopular view.

Speaker 14 (02:07:57):
Most people viewing this, and most people listening to us
now are scratching their heads saying, well, who wants to
get into the constitutional weeds. Trump's job is to get
illegals off the streets. I understand that argument, and I
even respect the argument. I don't always agree with it,

(02:08:17):
but I understand it, but Trump has an obligation. I
don't personalize this to the president. He wasn't making these
decisions himself to follow the Constitution, which means respect the
sovereignty of the States, and follow the Fourth.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
Amendment, and follow due process, none of which was done
in this case.

Speaker 14 (02:08:36):
Now, to make matters worse, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin
suspended the yesterday. I mean, it's basically a month long vacation.
She has all of her perks and she gets paid,
but she does not have to come to work. That
would upset me, but a lot of people would say, well.

Speaker 3 (02:08:54):
This is great, I'm going to Italy for a month.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
But I guess the two old component of this is
the federal magistrate found probable cause for the arrestaurant of
the judge based upon her conduct, and now the Wisconsin
Supreme Court has relieved her of our official duties, at
least temporarily. Doesn't that sort of I mean, flying the
face of the argument that you're making, which is that

(02:09:18):
this she had no obligation because this was not a
judicial arrest warrant.

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
It does not in my view.

Speaker 14 (02:09:25):
I'm sorry to tell you this dark and dirty secret,
but every federal magistrate wants to become a federal judge,
and if they don't find probable cause, the FBI will
block their ascendants.

Speaker 3 (02:09:38):
That is well known in the judiciary.

Speaker 14 (02:09:40):
The federal magistrate finding probable cause is the moral equivalent
of a grand jury in dighting a ham sandwich.

Speaker 12 (02:09:48):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
That's seventy times over the years.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
By the way, these analogies are not original to me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
No, no, I've even used the ham standing analogy a
grand jury. A prosecutor can get a jury a grand
jury to indict a ham sandwich. It's easy to do.
You select what evidence they hear and they see. You
don't have to provide with all the facts and information.

Speaker 14 (02:10:11):
Ergo same thing when you're trying to get an arrest
warrant or a search warrant from a magistrate.

Speaker 3 (02:10:18):
So an Article three judge, that's different.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
So put your defense attorney hat on. What is her
next step given what the current situation she finds herself in,
is that going to court?

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
She should move?

Speaker 14 (02:10:30):
She should move to Well, she hasn't been indicted yet,
which is another crazy thing. They shouldn't have removed her
from the bench until there's an indictment because maybe there
won't be an indictment. Maybe she'll testify before the grand jury.
You know, she is a former defense lawyer herself. But

(02:10:50):
her next step would be, once indicted, to move to
dismiss the indictment. First Amendment, a fourth Amendment, fifth Amendment,
and even tenth Amendment, which is the residue of state
sovereignty grounds.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
All right, Well, I would also.

Speaker 3 (02:11:07):
Throw in there.

Speaker 14 (02:11:10):
A statement from the president's press secretary that it would
not hesitate to arrest the Supreme Court justices if he
felt it was appropriate. Man, you talk about an inappropriate statement,
an intimidating statement, a statement that will backfire.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
That was it? Well, and that certainly fuels what I
can only characterize is this sort of unhinged anger that's
coming from the left over a lot of times really
absolutely nothing. But this is the attack on the judicial system.
This fuels the fire of those arguments and those claims
by the left against the Trump administration writ large right.

Speaker 14 (02:11:49):
Right, I mean those who are rejoicing in Judge Dougan's arrest,
just flip the switch and think of a liberal president
and DJ arresting a conservative judge and how.

Speaker 1 (02:12:05):
Would you feel, Yeah, or arresting parents who show up
at school board meetings professing their anger over policy.

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
Right right, there you go, Yeah, there you go. That's
an even better analogy because it actually happened.

Speaker 1 (02:12:20):
In spite of the First Amendment.

Speaker 14 (02:12:23):
Yes, I mean the same FBI, which, by the way,
could have said, Judge Dugan, we have a warant for
your arrest.

Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
Can you surrender with your lawyer. Here's where you should go,
and here's the time when you can do it, Like
when the mayor of New York was indicted.

Speaker 14 (02:12:40):
Instead, rather than telling her they were coming for her,
they told the press yeah, and then they showed up
when she got out of her car in the parking
lot of the courthouse and handcuffed to behind her back,
which is the way you handcuff dangerous people.

Speaker 3 (02:12:56):
Was obviously meant to intimidate.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
Like when CNN was alerted to at the time that
they were going to be rating Donald Trump's house for
privileged documents.

Speaker 14 (02:13:04):
Correct, or when they rated when Bob Muller rated the
Roger Stones House and CNN just happened to be there
at five thirty in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
All right, they talked to you.

Speaker 14 (02:13:16):
I wrote a piece called an American Nightmare, and these
things happen and they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
Well food for thought, and I'm glad you're able to
break this down and I excellent explanation. I understand exactly
where you're coming from. And I know you provided my
listeners with at least a clear eyed perspective on the situation,
and Popcorn will remain out well.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
I think your listeners. I think your listeners are smart people.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
Oh yeah, enjoy.

Speaker 14 (02:13:45):
Hearing an argument, which is not when they're familiar with here,
accustomed to hearing.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
That's exactly what we all need. Don't live in an
echo chamber. Listen to someone different, a different perspective. You
don't have to ultimately side with them, but it's it's
a refreshing thing to have a great you know sort
of I don't want to say intellectual, like I'm patting
myself on the back, but that's exactly what we get.
An involved, you know, fact based, law based driven discussion.
That's the point of this segment. That's why I love

(02:14:10):
having you on the show every week. God love you,
my man, Judge, Ennita Politana. I'll talk next week with
you and I help you have a wonderful, wonderful week.
My friend, all the best friend, Thank you, Thank you, sir,
it's a forty fifty five krc DE talk station.

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Brian Thomas, please to welcome back to the fifty five
KRC Morning Show author the most Dangerous Man in Washington,
doctor Scott Miller. He was treating patients working in a
rural area of Washington State as a pediatric physician's assistant.
I should say this is during the pandemic and he
was having some great success without sending people to the hospital.
In fact, people he sent to the hospital died. Scott,

(02:14:51):
it's good to have you on this show, my friend.
Welcome back. A hero to a lot of people in
my listening audience.

Speaker 12 (02:15:00):
It's funny when you say the ones I sent to
the hospital died, I didn't know. I just in my
defense early on, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:15:09):
So oh no, I'm not accusing you of malpractice. In fact,
I'm praising you for honoring the hippocratic Oh, recognizing early
on in COVID, when we knew very little about it,
that people were sending folks to the hospital, and you
found out that, Wow, that's a bad place. I'm having
better success not sending people to the hospital. So you
did your own sort of clinical trial. Do no harm.

(02:15:30):
Don't listen.

Speaker 12 (02:15:32):
I'm joking. It's I'm like, listen, brother, when when I
hear that there's a part there's I hate. I hate
this word for me because real people have experienced, you know,
like with PTSD. But my wife we joke about it
because if we don't laugh or joke about it, then
you go into the dark places. Oh yeah, but we

(02:15:52):
joke about that where you know, when my phone rangs and.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
You know, just the sideways looks that I get. But
you do have to. I mean, you either joke about
it or.

Speaker 12 (02:16:04):
You break things.

Speaker 1 (02:16:05):
And that's a good point, so humor or.

Speaker 12 (02:16:09):
You say language that you shouldn't share. It's like, sorry, God,
it's like, especially Lord that those are not those are
words that I that I shouldn't need to say in private.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Scott it especially, this is somebody who's subject to the
FCC rules and so I've got to mind my my
tongue every morning for four hours. So right, there are
times imagine, yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:16:31):
You do that, I would be I would be fired immediately.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
No, I know, And Everybody who knows me outside of
my radiars knows that from time to time I can
have a bit of a salty tongue. So it's just
a it's a skill set you got to learn, and
that's why we have what we call the dump button,
which basically is like forty seven seconds worth of delay,
and I can sort of unring the bell should it
ever happened. It usually only happens when a caller calls
up and says something untoward, but they're not familiar with

(02:16:55):
the rules. But you obviously have some moral perspective on
what's right and what's wrong. And of course humor is
often the best medicine, so it's a good that you
can laugh over things that some people otherwise would view
view as dreary. But you got in trouble speaking truth
to power, and you're one of the people that we
learned from that what you're reading sometimes on the internet,
which is deemed misinformation, is quite often ultimately is the

(02:17:18):
actual truth out there because the powers that be don't
want you to talk about it. And that's exactly what
you did. You got into trouble going to a medical
freedom rally at the State Capitol of Olympia and Washington
back in May twenty twenty, talking about something alternative to
what what was deemed the standard of care is, which
is I guess sending people to hospital and denying them
access to alternative medicines.

Speaker 12 (02:17:41):
That resulted in well, it wasn't even that in May
of twenty twenty. So yes, I was discussing that I
didn't know the true depth of what the hospitals were
doing at that time. It wasn't a medical freedom it
was just a general freedom rally, and I was asked
to speak on the medical side of things, but it

(02:18:01):
was about what was happening to our kids. It was
what we what I was seeing clinically because of the
schools shutting down and the inculcation of fear and calling
kids vectors of disease that would kill their grandparents.

Speaker 1 (02:18:17):
I mean, it was.

Speaker 12 (02:18:17):
It was insane in Washington State. So I was My
purpose of going was to try and spread like truth
and light that that we were not separated into like
even this this thing where I'm oh, my gosh, what's
the phrase? Uh, good lord, my wife just heard it.

(02:18:41):
We watched Hindler's List with our kids. Helped me out
here where you're valued or not valued, Essential and non essential.
When our governor called called our our you know, called
us as citizens of the State of Washington, he lumps
into essential and non essential. Yes, And I was so

(02:19:03):
disgusted and horrified by what I was seeing. And I'm like,
somebody has to somebody has to step up from the
medical side, because there's no such thing as essential or
non essential in God's eyes, you know, that was I mean,
I looked at it from that standpoint, like, who are
we as brothers and sisters in Christ? Are Like we're
all essential?

Speaker 1 (02:19:24):
How dare they?

Speaker 12 (02:19:25):
And so I lost, I kind of lost.

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
It's hard not to swear.

Speaker 12 (02:19:28):
I lost my balance when I heard that, and I
had to I had to do something well.

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
And you know the the you know, with hindsight, it's
almost amazing that we stood by and allowed the literal
suspension of our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms and liberties freedom of assembly,
for example. I mean, you know, okay, there's COVID running
around out there, but you can't just turn off freedom
of assembly, or the freedom to uh to worship, or

(02:19:56):
the idea that you in some states, the notion that
you can shop on one side of the aisle, but
you can't buy stuff on the other side of the aisle.
Our governor here in the state of Ohio said it
was okay to go to a bar, but you couldn't
drink after ten pm. Now, how in the hell did
that stop the spread of COVID nineteen. It certainly didn't.
And the whole mask mandate thing always seemed to me

(02:20:16):
to be a joke from the start, because they never
fit around your face, and the particulate and the micro
as small as the COVID nineteen is, it seeps right
through the mask. And people were saying that all the time.
And if you got killed out and held accountable for
making comments like that earlier earlier on in the ed
lo and behold we find out it was all a
colossal waste of time and six foot distancing was made
up phenomenon from doctor Fauci. I mean again, all the

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things that people were saying in the face of the
online arguments and the edicts and mandate from government turned
out to be true.

Speaker 2 (02:20:49):
Well, you know what you just said.

Speaker 12 (02:20:53):
And this was one of the issues of the probably
eighty things that the state hated about what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
I was simply.

Speaker 12 (02:21:04):
I wasn't some trailblazerser of truth. I was simply calling
out what they were telling us. You can walk, you
can wade in the ocean, you can wait in the
water without a mask, but you can't walk on the
beach without a mask.

Speaker 2 (02:21:19):
That scientifically, that scientific nilism.

Speaker 12 (02:21:24):
Make you stand in line to be waited, you know,
to wait to be seated with a mask, and then
you sit down and eat.

Speaker 13 (02:21:30):
I mean I was pulled.

Speaker 12 (02:21:32):
I can't tell you how many times the police were
called on me and I waited. I waited for them.
I waited in the stores. I let them take me
out so I could have conversations with them. And my
wife like, Scott, what are you doing? And I told her,
I'm like, I'm systems testing it. I want I needed

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to see that the depths that our state was was
going to was willing to go to.

Speaker 2 (02:22:03):
To to harass.

Speaker 12 (02:22:05):
And I'll tell you what, every single situation I had
with the police officers in the state of Washington was awesome.
They were they were understanding, they were kind. They were
dealing with like chav in Seattle and the riots in Portland.
So when they rolled up on me like standing like Hey, gentlemen,

(02:22:27):
it's good to see you. I was just trying to
do some shopping as a free, free, and sovereign citizen
of the United States without you know, covering my face.

Speaker 2 (02:22:36):
And they're like, this is not what we expected. I'm like,
I know, right right. I was super chill about it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
I was never combative.

Speaker 9 (02:22:45):
I just I told my wife.

Speaker 12 (02:22:47):
But I'm like, I need to see what regular people
are going through, if they're choosing to stand up, because
there were so few, Because I need to be able
to thoughtfully share that information with people. I needed to say, hey, listen,
you're not going to jail, stand up for yourself, stand
up for your rights, stand up for your children, and

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be their heroes.

Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
Well, my listeners, why I don't know this or maybe
don't recall it From a prior conversation, Scott Miller, author
of the Most Dangerous Men in Washington, that after all
these complaints of the Washington Medical Commission by nobody that
was a patient of yours other than one who said
he complained because you weren't wearing a mask, all these
complaints roll in your license was temporarily suspended in twenty

(02:23:30):
twenty one because you were accused of spreading misinformation and
violating the standard of care. But then you were asked
by the Washington Medical Commission to undergo an impatient neuropsychiatric
evaluation and then pay them thirty.

Speaker 12 (02:23:43):
Grande voluntary, voluntary, which meant that it was determined on
what they would you assess me with. And when I
say this, this is they could have without my consent,
put me on you know, they could have put me

(02:24:04):
on atypical antipsychotics. They could they could have diagnosed and
treated me, treated quote unquote with whatever they wanted. I
would have been I would have put I had a
number of colleagues when they found out, They're like, Scott,
you cannot do that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:21):
They'll kill you. Those were their words, will kill you.

Speaker 7 (02:24:23):
I'm like, I know, right.

Speaker 12 (02:24:25):
It sounds weird to say, but it happened to doctor
Bruschet in Canada around the same time. It was just
after that where the equivalent of the FBI, Canada's FBI
came to his house in the middle of the night,
took him out and put him in an impatient psych
ward and they started him on atypical antipsychotics. And so

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an ear doctor from from British Columbia doctor Nagassi Daniel
Nagassi drives to break like jail break, bruget out of
this psyche word. And I'm like, that's that's where that's
the earl situation that I was at, where they would.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
Have done that to me, undelievable.

Speaker 12 (02:25:05):
It's crazy, except I know right, So I'm like, eh,
I decline, yeah, like I guess you do.

Speaker 1 (02:25:12):
Scott Miller, I tell you, it's just such. It's great
having you on. I can't thank you enough for speaking
truth of power from the beginning and for writing the
book that my listeners will be able to get a
copy of on my website at fifty five kres he
dot com. The most Dangerous Man in Washington. Scott, You're
just great. Keep up the great work, and thanks again
for putting this down on paper so we can all
read along together in absolute disbelief.

Speaker 2 (02:25:36):
Well, and I want to say this is I've been.

Speaker 12 (02:25:39):
I was up until almost five am this morning on
the phone with with people either in hospitals or sick.
The policies haven't changed except for people are now allowed
into the like family members are allowed into the hospital.

Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
So something for your listeners.

Speaker 12 (02:25:56):
And when I say this, not not out of not
from a standpoint of fear, but a standpoint of discernment
and understanding. And I've spent over the last month, I
cannot tell you how many hours I've spent on phone
calls with hospitals and family members. And it's not just
about COVID our hospital policies. When the HHS flipped the

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switch and basically socialized hospital medicine, they've they haven't strict rights,
but they make it sound like they have. So just
for your listener, yes, you make sure you have power
of attorney, make sure that you have that you have
your that you are courageous in how you stand up

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polite I call it polite persistence.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
As doctor or I'm sorry, I keep wanting to call you,
doctor Scott. It's been a pleasure. Got to run. We
are out of time, but thanks again for your time
on the program today, and I guess the work is
an over So keep fighting the good fight, my friend.
We'll talk against soon, I hope. It's eight fifty eight
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