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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Bibo five, but it's five garre see de talk station, Susie.
Happy Wednesday, will.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
The vacation and that's the way the news go.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It is happy Wednesday to you, Thank you Garrey, Jeff
Walker for coming from me yesterday, and a happy Ondesday everybody.
Brian Thomas right here, glad to be, Glad to see
Joe s Jrecory belongs in the Executi producer both and
looking forward to the morning show. Got some great guests
lined up. Thank you, Joe Strecker. It is Wednesday means
seven o five. We get the big picture with Jack
added in one of the segments, I just really dearly

(00:55):
enjoy today subject matter. Who else was not considered? Presidential?
Donoinant the Americans for Prosperity Every Wednesday seven thirty veto
overrides and what is the Governor's working Group? The americanss
Bardi yesterday announced say they commended the Ohio House Representatives
for voting to override Governor Wines veto of key property

(01:17):
tax reforms in the House Bill ninety six sixty one
to twenty eight vote restoring fairness and accountability. According to
the Statement for Americans for Prosperity, so the property tax relief,
the little baby step measures for property tax relief that
were in the budget bill that Governor de wined for
reasons unknown to most people of vetoed back in play.

(01:41):
Get the details from Donovan on that, and then also
again what is the governor's working group? In studio Marcel Sturbitch,
he is running for Ohio Secretary of State. Apparently he's
got a pretty decent war chest to these buildings well,
so in studio we'll learn about what he is all about.

(02:01):
And Jack Windsor, we've had Jack on several quite a
few times, editor in chief of the Howl Press Network.
Jack joins the program today a thirty no judge of
Paulton and is on vacation. Happy to have Jack in
as a substitute. House failure to override two of the
property tax fetas, so sort of a handoff from Donald
anil over to Jack on the other overrides. So that's
your lineup for this morning, and looking forward to having

(02:24):
his guests on the program. Always looking forward to hearing
from you as well. If you'd like to call five
one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred
eighty two three Talk found five fifty on anti ant phone. Joe,
do you think counsel and the Mayor have been listening
to the Morning show and Christopher Smithman Smythervan on crime?
You doubt it? Yeah, I do too, although you think

(02:46):
it might be a natural reaction since their meeting today
to address crime in the City of Cincinnati. Christopher, among others,
accusing the City of Cincinnati Council some members as well
as the Mayor for putting it ahead in the center
otherwise hiding in the closet and not coming out and
talking about and addressing the problem, not saying anything in

(03:08):
support of the police. Crime statistics depends on who you
listen to. Some are up, summer down, and I'm going
to go with up because Mayor have toab Parowell has
finally called a special meeting for since a city Council
taking place today to discuss ways to reduce crime, most
notably and particularly in over the Rhine as well as downtown.

(03:31):
Calling back from the summer recess, Jeff forward to meet
the motion tho specific data. This is July twenty twenty five,
signed by Mayor have to have pro volve we move
these said that the city administration take the following action
to address public safety and reduce crime, particularly in downtown

(03:52):
and over the Rhine areas. Colon one enforced the city
wide curfew. Well, that in and of itself poses a problem.
If you're suggesting the police need to enforce the existing
city wide curfew, and why wouldn't they. There needs to
be a place to put the juveniles and courts willing
to prosecute them and judges willing to hold them. There

(04:14):
isn't or there aren't any places, at least that's what
we've been led to believe. It goes on. Number two,
Review the current curfew ordinances and provide recommendations for the ages,
times and locations of unsupervised miners. Number three, coordinate and
act with SINCI police, community and external partners a strategy
around curfew enforcement for unsupervised miners. Update and restrict the

(04:39):
hours the city parks for unsupervised miners to nine pm
to nine am. Review and provide recommendations to the parking
license program. Review and provide recommendations for expanding and geographic
That does the time and geographic footprint for the twenty
one plus permit at the banks. That's that Dora thing.
Review and provide recommendations for increased public police visibility in

(05:03):
over the Rhine Banks and downtown. And finally number eight
provider review in timeline for the police lateral class that
of course would be the seasoned officers two plus years experience.
The City of Cincinnati's trying to hire away from other
police forces all across the country. Anyway, this special meeting

(05:24):
taking place today, we already have a ten pm to
five am curfew for unccompanied miners under the age of sixteen,
midnight to five am for people sixteen eighteen. Mayor describe
the enforcement of the curfew being tricky. Quote, the curfew
is absolutely on the table and a tool that we
can deploy. Obviously, there's a lot of logistical challenges with

(05:47):
detaining kids, holding them until their parents can pick them
up or until they can be transported home. Some of
the logistics coming over from the legal side, the judicial
side of the law enforcement well is a pyramid. Anyway,
if you want to show up meeting, he's going to
be at noon. And since they council chambers on Plump Street,
so in addition to the curfew, council is going to

(06:12):
be discussing putting more restrictions on when youth can be
in parks and the bank's entertainment complex, as well as
ways to increase police visibility. Purve All said, quote, I
think it's important to have a public opportunity for council
members to ask questions, tough questions, and really provide a
pressure test on strategies that we're deploying. What the hell

(06:38):
does that mean? And I can speak for the chief
and the city manager that would welcome that kind of scrutiny.
And this is an all hands on deck situation. I
guess he's a little worried crime must be up. He
also said, I think I've seen I've been regularly updating

(07:00):
you that we are working right now with our various
partners to make sure that when we do enforce the curfew,
that we're doing it in the most effective and just way. Obviously,
that suggests an acknowledgement that they're not enforcing the Curseee
when we enforce the curfew, is this sort of a

(07:20):
you know, occasionally we do sometimes we pick and choose
whether or not to enforce the curfew. Again, I go
back to the police department. It's an exercise of futility.
If they go through the steps and process it takes
to enforce the curfew. Identify the youth the individual for
confirm that they're under the age. They're well, they're caught
up within the curfew age limit. I guess, write them
a citation, put them in the back of the police car,

(07:42):
take them over to the juvenile detention facility where they're
let out because there's no room there. Does that make
any sense when we enforce the curfew? Now, I'm just
going to go back to my own personal experience growing up.
Who is responsible for enforcing curfews when you were young?

(08:03):
You know the answer to that question? Would we need
a curfew if we had parents at home that were
really concerned about what their children are doing at three
o'clock in the blanket morning. You live in a house,
so you got a fifteen year old and they're not
home at three o'clock in the morning, would you abide that?

(08:25):
I just man. Anyhow, let's see here. Violent crime across
the city reportedly down three percent compared to last year.
Number of shooting victims believe it or not, they say,
down twenty five percent from three years ago. Yet overall crime,

(08:46):
including non violent property crimes up forty six percent in
over the Rhine in downtown, including a twelve percent uptick
and violent crime according to police statistics. Thank you to
Scott Warman over the Sense Inquire for documenting that and
reporting on it. So I guess the positive in all

(09:07):
this is the council is actually awake, or at least
the mayor is awake, so much so that he's bringing
it back from summer recess. They have a special meeting
on crime fighting in the city and talk about the proposals.
I'll keep my popcorn out and we'll see what since
Ana Council members say in so far as what their
ideas are for dealing with what seems to be primarily

(09:30):
youth crime, gangs of rowthing youth, and they seem to
be everywhere. This isn't just a City of Cincinnati problem.
This is going on all across this country. Of course,
social media makes it very easy for all the youth
to get together and communicate and coordinate and hey, everybody,
show up. We're going to meet here and we're going
to cause three forms of holy help. That just to

(09:51):
me is the boiled down reality of what we're dealing
with with youth crime. And again going back to the
reality that if you have parents that care, they're not
out during curfew hours. And I guess you know, moving

(10:13):
back from that and recognizing that as the primary problem,
does anybody think a politician can solve it? Seriously? Five
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love to hear from you. If you've got something you
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Speaker 3 (10:40):
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Speaker 1 (10:45):
Ozzy has left the building. If he was around longer
than Lummy though Joe, Joe suggests that he's jamming with
Lemmy right now in the Great Beyond. It seems like

(11:09):
a counterintuitive to suggests he's in heaven, though Joe, given
that he was the Prince of Darkness just saying, oh, look,
I guess the terrorists art is bad? Is the problem
is we we thought he's Donald Trump and asked he's

(11:31):
secured a deal with Japan. Sounds like a pretty hell
of a deal here, massive five hundred and fifty billion
dollar deals in rechar of Japan, Trump said yesterday, claiming
he's going to create hundred of thousands of jobs. Quote,
We just completed a massive deal with Japan, perhaps the
largest deal ever made. Japan will invest, at my direction,
five hundred and fifty billion dollars into the United States,

(11:53):
which will receive ninety percent of the profits. This deal
will create hundreds of thousands of jobs. There's never anything
like close. Quote. Apparently, according to Trump, Japan's going to
be opening its country to trade and things like cars, trucks,
rice and other agricultural products. Rice has been a real
stickler sticky point for Japan. They like to buy their

(12:13):
own rice, and when they have shortages, California can step
up and provide rice. We do grow a lot of
rice here in the United States, but that's been a
challenge with Japan. I said. This is a very exciting
time for the United States of American, especially for the
fact that we will continue to always have a great
relationship with the country of Japan, calling it the largest

(12:34):
trade deal in history, claiming Japan's top people were at
the White House and they worked for many hours to
get it done. Do what Japan comes about two weeks
after trumping out the wee United States would be imposing
in twenty five percent tariffs on goods imported from Japan.
I guess that threat ultimately or fruit in the form
of formalizing a trade agreement with them. Those levees expecting

(12:57):
to take effect August first, if Japan raised hair some retaliation,
which apparently they are not going to be doing. Trump
told Japan that there would be there will be no
tariff if companies in Japan decided to build or manufacture
products within the United States. And in fact, we will
do everything possible to get approvals quickly, professionally and routine lying,
in other words, in a matter of weeks, so smoothing

(13:18):
over the presumably regulatory hurdles for Japan to perform this
investment five hundred and fifty billion dollars worth and not
too bad Philippines got to deal with. The Philippines called
President Ferdinand Marcos Junior a tough negotiator. Trump did while
announcing that he had secured a zero tariff deal to

(13:39):
open free trade for the export of American goods in
the Philippines. Philippines, for their part, will be paying nineteen
percent tariffs to export goods and services to the American
According to Trump yesterday on social media, President Ferdinand Marcus
or the Philippines is just leaving the White House with
all of his many representatives. It was a big, beautiful
visit and we concluded our trade deal whereby the Philippines

(14:02):
is going to open market with the United States and
zero tariffs. Now the reason perhaps he was able to
negotiate a deal with Philippines paying nineteen percent with with
with US paying nothing on theirs. The deal comes with
a joint military agreement. Of course, Philippines a hotbed of

(14:23):
Chinese Communist Party activity there in the South China.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
See.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I suppose it's a bit of an existential threat for
the Philippines of the Chinese around they need us, he said.
In addition, we will work together militarily. It was a
great honor to be with the President Marcus. He is
highly respected in his country, as he should be, who

(14:48):
suggested that the military agreement with the Philippines is important
for American national security in the region and worldwide, again
as a counter to the Chinese Communist Party's threat in
the region. The trader deals bearing some fruit. We're all
got our popcorn out waiting to see if the bottom
is going to fall out of it, because you know,
all the political pundits in the naysayers have been going,

(15:10):
oh my god, these terrofts are going to ruin US.
But by all accounts, no concerns about recession. The markets
are up interestingly enough, the earning support seem to be
pretty darn good. All things being considered, there doesn't seem

(15:32):
to be a whole lot of bad, terrible news, economic devastation.
You know, the bottom is going to fall out, We're
all gonna die, Oh my god. I mean, they kind
of want you to believe that, and they'll say it
over and over again, hoping that your confidence in the
American economy, well thanks, hoping that perhaps your trust and

(15:52):
faith and Donald Trump as a president and as a leader,
well thanks to the extent you have that confidence. It's
continuing effort to undermine Trump and what he's trying to do.
But amid the landscape and of course the rhetoric with
regard to Donald Trump, you got to look at the
actual numbers and the data and the information which suggests

(16:12):
we seem to be on the right track. I know
that's troubling for the Trump haters out there. But oh
and the other thing I saw, Yes, this is Quinnipiac, Paul.
It was really kind of funny about thirty questions and
everything was you know, do you have confidence in you know,

(16:35):
you got Congress, the House Representative, Senate, the presidents, on
and on all these topics, and most everyone came out.
I mean, there was almost like over and over and
over again in terms of whether you have confidence or
you have a positive attitude or a negative attitude towards
any given issue, whether it's Epstein files being released or
the Trump administration. Generally, it was always like maybe six

(17:00):
negative and thirty ish positive, over and over and over again,
depending on the issue. Just kind of laughed at it
because it didn't matter what the question is. People's attitudes
came across as negative. And they broke it down by

(17:21):
party as well, And of course, depending on any given issue,
the Republicans would have positive or the Democrats would have
negative or flip depending on the subject matter. But overall,
negativity was pervasive in the Quinnipiac survey, which I guess
if you're staring at the news every single day, it's
easy to walk away with a negative opinion. But amid
all of these claims of negativity and all of the press,

(17:45):
you know, trying to paint Trump into a corner, otherwise
paint this bleak economic picture. The numbers don't support that conclusion.
Five twenty six, Ja, you are on the phone. I
will be happy to take your call, my friend, out
of time in the segment, but I we'll look forward
to taking that call right out of the gate before
we get the local stories coming up next. Fifty five

(18:07):
the tox datalk station five two three talk if I
fifty on ATNT phone, I promise JD first, Tom hang on,
get your call in a second. Jay, thanks for holding
over the break there. Welcome to the program.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Hey, thanks Brian. Hey, that is some great news coming
out of Japan. Yeah, with that, with that deal, if
we are going to pick up on some volume for
auto and truck manufacturing over here, number one.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Uh, I'm I'm shocked that I don't hear like Ohio
like chasing after that at our politicians and leaders and
economic development.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
There there's no news on that. And it's make our
senators to do more too. I mean, that would be
the time I've talked before about if you want to
give automakers a boost, get rid of Jimmy Carter's cafe standards,
get rid of Barack Obama's carbon as a as an
emission as a pollutant, and get rid of Al Gore's
carbon offsets. And but I know John, I know Bernie

(19:07):
Marino is focus. He's got his hands full. He's embroiled
in this name change with the Cleveland Guardians, the Indians.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
He was on.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Breitbart, that was his big topic. So I think that
our politicians and economic development people need to get busy
and get moving because this ensuring may not last forever.
It will not last forever.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
It'll be alone.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
It seems like it will be here as long as
Trump is here. And again we've got Rolls Royce Aircraft Engines.
Would we'd like to be the aerospace capital of the
world data Cincinnati. I think that would be fantastic. I
think they ought to start making some green space. I
see Louisiana and other states winning on. Like the last
time Hyundai and some other automakers were in sourcing, it

(19:53):
seemed like we were asleep at the switch. So for us, fantastic.
For Ohio, wake the hell up and focus on right thing.
Get your head out of sports and given free money
to the Browns and Clayland the Guardians.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
A name change back to the Indians.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, there's real issues out there, fellas.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I agree with you, Jay now I'm i'm I'll defend
them in the sense that it's it's clickbait topic to
talk about the name changes because people who aren't paying
attention to politics on a level that you would pay
attention to, you know, the weed dwellers that we are,
are drawn to a story about the name change of
these very like the Redskins for example, of the Indians

(20:32):
for example. It's that's easy clickbait and Bernie Marina is
all over that look. And I understand it might be
a somewhat compelling topic to talk about because it's a
little more interesting than what's going on behind the scenes
with our efforts to get Japan or any other country
to invest in Ohio. Not exactly a sexy topic. Now,
that isn't to say, or that's not to say it's

(20:53):
not going on. It's just that is there is it
a worthwhile thing to report on that you know, Bernie
Marina is behind the scenes reaching out to you know,
Japan or you folks from Japan or interest in Japan
to try to bring some of that investment into the
state of Ohio. It may be going on. It's just
I would I would.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
I would love to confirm that, man, you and Joe
do a fantastic job. Somebody else will call up, called
in and said, sometimes it's shocking. We'll have a conversation
with you, and then like the next day or two.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
There's like follow up.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
And this isn't a demand, this is a compliment that
uh as you say, I'll keep my popcorn out and
see if the adults ever show up and talk about
what they're doing with economic development less about sports. So yeah,
I would love to hear that.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, keep your fingers crossed and I'll just look forward
to the future with vv where Ramas Swami, I mean,
he is all over making Ohio the most you know,
energy abundant energy producer. Now, if that would bear fruit
and we could become a manufacturer of inexpensive energy nuke plans,
modular nukes, well however we achieve it, that would be

(21:56):
a huge draw. Also lowering our income tax that just happened.
That's a draw for businesses. So that's a step in
the right direction. So we can't I can't expect everything overnight.
But once we make our state more attractive to outside
development than they're comparing us to Texas and Florida and
some of these other uh, more of a magnet states
because of their economic policies, we'll be on a competitive

(22:19):
playing field. It's gonna take some time to get there,
but I'll take whatever we can get, baby steps at
a time. Appreciate it. Jay Tom, welcome in the morning show,
my friend. Good to hear from me. Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, good good morning. And as yes, as long as
we are moving in the right direction, we all like
it to be a little quicker, but yeah, we're definitely
moving in the right direction. Imagine that all the all
the things that the Democrats said turned out to be lies.
Uh Who who saw that coming? Who called who called that?

(22:53):
Other than everybody that's not a Democrat. So yeah, all
this all this hand ringing, and these these people know,
I mean a lot of these people, they make money,
They know how money is made. They just want to
be the ones that call the shots. They want to
be the ones with their hands on the levers of power, uh,
and controlling where the money goes, and and it pisses

(23:15):
them off that that Trump's the one controlling that he's
getting it done, and so they got to come up
with anything and everything. We're gonna hear more crap over
the next year leading up to the mid terms than
we've ever heard before. And when you know, we we
heard a bunch of stuff, you know, in the previous elections,
and it just kept ramping up and ramping up, and

(23:35):
it's only gonna get worse. We got to get rid
of more Democrats. Uh so that that the majority in
the House is bigger and stronger. It's it's very I mean,
it's razor thin right now. And instead of concentrating on
on somebody like Thomas Massey and Kentucky, the Republicans need

(23:56):
to concentrate on getting rid of more Democrats. Get them
out of there. You know, you want to keep a
few around just just for comedy, relief, whatever. But we've
got to get rid of Democrats. So pay attention to
what's going on. And the economic news is good, it's
very good, and it shows we're on the right direction.

(24:17):
And please, for God's sake, don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Have a great day, run you too.

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(27:05):
at the Walmart and mobulists. They believe it was an
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it wasn't an active shooting situation. Someone had been assaulted
inside the store, they said. The suspect, thirty two year
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(27:28):
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(28:12):
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eight dollars worth of beer, chicken detergent, and other items
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(28:33):
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(28:56):
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After being arrested, police found a glass pipe intended for
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This is a this is really truly bizarre. After calling

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a Louisiana man, unsure if you as trespasser was still
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woman that he claimed was named Aretha. They didn't locate Aretha. However,
while searching his home at his request, investigators discovered three
child size sex dolls in his bedroom to what the
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obtained a warrant to search his home. During the execution
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which he purchased online, stating he quote has had sex
with each of the dolls multiple times close quote Gilroy Corney.
Police also admitted, well, I'm not even gonna read that line.
Gilroy arrested possession, trafficking and importing of child sex doll,

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which is described as a felony. Also charged possession of
marijuana and drug paraphernalia. Rap sheet includes bus for theft, battery, forgery,
narcotics possession, and yet, in spite of the history, he
didn't hesitate to invite the police into his home.

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Period.

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The biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies,
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Some sick people in the world go to Kentucky, Laurel County, specifically,
man there co used of running from law enforcement officers.
Happened Saturday eleven pm. Laurel County deputies responded reports of
a fight in an apartment complex. Deputies on the way
to the scene, the suspect fled in the car. Deputies
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on his brakes, causing a deputy to crash into him.
That guy then got out of the car ran into
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They called his cell phone. He did answer the phone,
reportedly telling deputies that he wanted to term himself in
but he was lost in the woods. Idiots doing idiot

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things because they're idiots.

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To report.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
The county rescue squad used a drone to find him,
eventually taking into custody. Charged with wanton endangerment and fleeing
and evating police officers. Let us end. In Wisconsin, two
people arrested and one person taken to the hospital after
a fight at a Route forty one bar and girl,

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which is in Oak Creek Police dispatch there after five
pm for a port of a large fight involving around
sixty people. Officers got there, they saw motorcyclists leave the scene.
Frank From police tried to stop that motorcycle, but it
was unsuccessful, prompting a brief chase eventually terminated by a
police Police said they don't know if the motorcyclist and
the chase was even involved in the fight. To thirty

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thirty two year old men suffered minor injuries. Both checked
out by the fire department personnel refused to be taken
to the hospital. One to twenty three year old man
taken to the hospital highly intoxicated. One of the posts
at the Route forty one Bar and Girl facebook page
a celebration of life was being held for someone there.

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Franko Police Department still looking for the motorcyclists involved in
the chase people are in They're asking for anyone with information.
Not necessarily overly stupid, but it is interesting a celebration
of life would result in a fight involving sixty people.
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At seven thirty typically the case kind of about veto
overrides here in Ohio and what is the Governor's working group?

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In studio Marcel Sturbitch, who is running for a House
Secretary of State. Wele hear what Marcell has to say
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that will be our rundown this morning. Again. Feel free

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to call if you're inclined. I guess I'm still struggling,
and just just note that this Epstein thing, is it
a distraction? I mean, I'm troubled with the Trump administration's
attitude toward releasing whatever documents they've got. And some people
have pointed out, well, you know, maybe there are a

(39:57):
bunch of people mentioned in there that really had nothing
to do with my with Epstein and his pedophilia, molesting
children or women or whatever, not involved in sex trafficking.
They just happened to be rubbing shoulders with the rich
and famous, which is exactly what Epstein did all along.
And we don't want to release the things because it
might unfairly implicate them. Nobody seems to have that concern
really any other time. But okay, I understand that argument.

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But after years of talking about releasing the Epstein files
and letting us see what the list is there's no list. Now,
there's nothing there there there's nothing but with Epstein except
Epstein's downloaded child porn, which we can't release anyway. It
was one hundred and eighty degree shift. And I don't
understand why draw all the ire of a lot of
your base, Donald Trump by changing your position on this.

(40:43):
Why don't just let them out? I don't see what overall,
big broad harm can come from that. Maybe I'm missing something,
or maybe this is just a distraction to keep us
from talking about the big bombshell, which was that Obama
tried to undermine the Donald Trump presidency and engage in
this conspiracy which many are calling an effort to accoups

(41:04):
d'tas anyway. Speaker Mike Johnson announced yesterday he's cutting short
the week's legislative business, sending everybody home early for the summer.
They're going home today in order to not have a
vote on releasing Epstein's files, saying we're done being lectured
on transparency. Really you may feel that way, I don't

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know that it's going to make the issue go away,
mister Johnson. He complained about quote endless efforts to politicize
the Epstein investigation close quote is it being politicized? Is
this a political issue? I mean, it's such a weird issue.

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And some are critical of Thomas Massey for pushing forward
and getting these documents released. Why didn't you do it
during the Biden administration? That's a fair question. But why
are the Democrats now clamoring to get these documents out
when they had four years of the Biden administration, when
they were in control, they could have gotten the documents out.
Then why did some people demand the release of the

(42:11):
Epstein files and now have gone the other direction and
say no, they shouldn't be released or we're not releasing them.
I just don't. I really am just totally perplexed by
all of this anyway, Because they're going home, the Republicans
plan on measures targeting some undocumented immigrants, a bill that

(42:34):
would ease environmental rules and roll back some of the
Biden air regulations. Now those votes put on hold because
they don't want to vote on the Epstein thing. So
good business, real business on behalf of the American taxpayers
won't be getting done because of Epstein. Johnson said he
would not schedule a vote this summer releasing the Epstein files.
Arguing that Trump and his administration needed, in his word

(42:57):
space to determine how to proceed. Really. Yesterday, he claimed
the House Republicans were united on the issue and that
they needed to be quote judicious and careful about protecting
the innocent close quote HM. For her part, Marjorie Taylor
Green said crimes have been committed. If there's no justice

(43:18):
in new accountability, people are going to get sick of it.
That's where people largely are.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Thomas Massey said he still planned to circumvent the House
Republican leaders and try to force the vote and release
in the Epstein files in September when they come back
from their recess. This isn't going away. Massey said. He
just told us there to stick their heads in the
sand about this Epstein thing. Johnson claims Massy is the problem.

(43:49):
Johnson said some here are much more frustrating than others.
I don't know how his mind works. I don't know
what he's thinking. And then he circuitously ended up with
bless his Heart, sort of a backhanded not compliment to
Congress from Massey, just to sort of you know, we're
tolerating him kind of message, but they're not so anyway,

(44:12):
it's confusing to me. But maybe again this is a
distraction to keep people from talking about the Obama administration's
role in instigating the Trump Russia collusion investigation. Jim Jordan
was on the other day on Hannity and he summed
it up quite nicely, calling it worse than we thought. Jordan,
it all started back in twenty sixteen. It was wasn't

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just to keep Trump from winning the election in twenty sixteen,
it was to undermine his presidency after he already won.
If you want to take a three dates in the
interim between the election day and inauguration day, back in
twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, December ninth, post election, Donald Trump won,
Obama calls a meeting in the White House. All the

(44:54):
intelligence communities there, plus the Justice Department. You got Lynch,
you got Comy, you got Clapper, you got Bread, They're
all there. Obama says, we're not going to go with
the intelligence community assessment. We're going to put that on hold,
and they put together a new one. Now, the background
on that summarize common from Jordan. The intelligence community had

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concluded that the Russia did not interfere with the election,
there wasn't anything there. We looked around, We looked and
looked and looked, and we couldn't find any Russian interference
and a story. So that doesn't sit well with Obama
because it doesn't undermine Trump, says. Jordan goes on, because
we're going to put that on hold, and they put
together a new assessment. Three and a half weeks later,

(45:38):
Jordan reported January third, Chuck Schumer's on one of the
Sunday shows, and he said, if you mess with the
intelligence community talking to president like Donald Trump, if you
mess with the intelligence community, they have six ways from
Sunday to get back at you. Well, that's a rather
revealing statement upon reflection, isn't it, Recognizing that the intelligence

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communities actually did get together and went after Trump. Jordan
went on three days later sean three days later, January
of Trump Tower of the Intelligence Community, Comy Brennan Clapper
go up there to give President Trump what Trump believes
is a defensive briefing all incoming presidents get. So he's

(46:22):
explaining just the normal, so he's expecting rather just the
normal briefing. Instead, it's a setup. They go up there
and brief him and then they tell him about the dossier,
the Steele dossier, the dossier that they already know is false,
and then it gets leaked to the press and thereby
giving it credibility. When the press reports that Jim Comey,

(46:42):
FBI director brief Donald Trump on the Russian dossier. It
was all garbage, but it was all designed to undermine.
This is where it began. The whole weaponization of government
began here. And your first point, Sean, you're right. We
had figured that this out several years ago, and we're
covering this and the only thing we had wrong was

(47:05):
that it was worse than we thought. That's the only
thing that get wrong when we dig into these investigations.
It's always worse than we thought. Jim Jordan, So maybe
Epstein and you know, it's like, pay no attention to
the man behind the curtain. Look Epstein files, Epstein files,
Epstein files, kind of like Berdie Marina talk about renaming

(47:29):
the baseball team, rather than while engaging in substance of
conversations about what Ohio is doing to draw economic investment
to the state of Ohio. As we talked about earlier
in the program with Jay, it's a convenient distraction. The
Epstein Files, I would argue, but this story is not
going away. Clearly, clearly it's not going away. The question

(47:52):
is whether anybody will have a price to pay for
doing what they did to Donald Trump. Because remember this
timeline of events. The Steele dossier is fake. It was
paid for by the d NC at the pas to
Hillary Clinton. It was paid for to create a fake
narrative that Russia had somehow the goods on Donald Trump

(48:16):
and that they were using it to sort of blackmail him,
that he was an asset of the Russians. That story
could not have been told, that argument could not have
been made without the Steele dossier, because, as we now know,
the intelligence community had already determined that the Russians had
not a damn thing to do with interfering with the election.

(48:39):
What do we need, Well, we need a smoking gun.
And when you don't have a real one, you go
out and fake it, and you pay a guy named
Steele to write down a bunch of gibbers on paper
and then offered up to the American people as something legitimate.
Did you feel burned and lied to? It was one
of the things that really really never ever got over
with Bill Clinton. I did not have sex with that woman,

(49:02):
Monica Lewinsky, And he waved his finger at you and me.
He was lying through his teeth, and I didn't care
so much about the underlying charge that he had sex
with Monica Lewinsky. If I was married to Hillary Clinton,
you know what I might have too. But you know
what I would have done. I'd have gone out and
admitted it. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah I
did it. Sorry, I apologize to the American people. Please

(49:24):
forgive me. I'm not the only one in the world
who's had an affair behind his wife, and therefore I
asked for your forgiveness as a president. But I will
not lie to you and tell you it didn't happen.
Then I could have accepted it. I think it would
have been a better path for Bill Clinton to go down.
I don't like being lied to. And when you look
at lies on this scale, we're talking about the FBI,

(49:47):
We're talking about the Department of Justice. We're talking about
people who are supposed to be keeping the American people's
interest and what their desires are. And for apparently, you
know a number of reasons, Donald Trump was what America
wanted and that's we voted for. We didn't want Hillary Clinton.
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KRCD talk station, Happy Wednesday. And as mentioned an on
the program, but Trump's been able to accomplish a whole
lot a lot of very very good news. And I
know the mainstream media, legacy media does everything I can
to paint Donald Trump is an evil satan or something
like that. There's there's plenty of positive information out there.
Look at it. Trade deal with Japan, five hundred and

(51:46):
fifty billion dollar investment. Got a trade deal with Philippines.
Looked at that turned out pretty nice. So the tariffs,
the the threat of terraft scenes to be working at
Trump and the American people's advantage. Slow process not going
fast enough. It's the government doge unleash. And then we
brought to our attention, although they didn't save as much
as they originally hope, but they brought to our attention

(52:07):
the insanity coming out of federal government in where the
money gets the guys going. We learned so much about
non governmental organizations getting the American taxpayer dollar relief checks
and out there in the world claiming to do something
we don't know whether they actually did anything or not
with it. And then in a flip of a switch,
we find out all you needed to do is work
with software engineers, and you find out that there are

(52:29):
two point eight million people on two government health insurance plans.
That's right. Two CMS reported last week that one point
two million Americans were enrolled in Medicaid or the Children's
health insurance program in two or more states. You can't
do that. It's called double dipping. And all the agency

(52:52):
had to do was work with software engineers through review
enrollment data, and it found another one point six million
enrolled in both Medicaid and Obamacare plan taxpayers subsidized. Apparently,
the Biden administration's policy was willful ignorance about whether the
folks enrolled in these programs were even eligible or continuing

(53:14):
to need public assistance. The Biden administration, now you know,
the Big Beautiful Bill, requires the government to check twice
a year about Medicaid eligibility. The Biden administration apparently ban
states from checking Medicaid eligibility more than once a year.
It's supposed to be a temporary safety net. So the
idea of checking more than once is, well, you don't
need it anymore. You're now in an employed situation. Therefore

(53:37):
you're no longer eligible. But the idea that just you know,
here we are just you know, six months into the
Trump administration that they were able to reveal fourteen billion
dollars in ultimate savings by cutting out the two point
eight million double dippers. That's a positive step.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Sadly, the insurers apparently aren't interested in getting rid of
the double dippers because they get free money for enrollees
who may have moved into other states otherwise may not
be using the coverage, but they're not eligible for it.
That money shouldn't be there in the first instance. So
if your goal is to cut out waste, and you

(54:25):
provide the resources to do that in a very short
period of time, you can yield a substantial savings to
the American taxpayer. I mean, look at that bill the
other day was nine billion dollars and cuts from government.
Oh my god, MPR is not going to be funded anymore. Yeah, okay,
big deal. But that was only nine billion dollars one
software check one work with software engineers, we find fourteen

(54:48):
billion dollars annually in fraud. Thank god, somebody's finally doing
this work. It doesn't really seem that overly complicated when
you go ahead and sh air of the data among
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Six thirty one fifty five Parris, the cook station, Happy Wednesday. Uh,
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Speaker 1 (57:38):
We're gonna hear from Donovan and Neil on the veto overrides.
He'll be up in one hour of the Americans for Prosperity.

Speaker 12 (57:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
And let us see here, mayor I have to have
purval maybe listening to Christopher Smith and vent his spleen
over the past several weeks about crime in downtown Cincinnati,
the deafening silence from the mayor and the council members
because he has called a special meeting today that's right
to discuss ways to reduce crime in the city Cincinnati,

(58:05):
particularly over the run in downtown, calling all nine city
council members back from their summer recess. And it's described
here in the inquire Scott Wortman reporting one of the
potential strategies, and this was part of his recall of
the council's memo stepping up enforcement of the city's curfew.

(58:26):
It's on the books already and one might easily ask
the question why it's not being enforced now, considering the
gangs of teenagers roaming around in spite of the curfew.
We have a ten pm to five am curfew for
unaccompanied people out of the age of sixteen and midnight
to five am for people sixteen to eighteen. Purval said

(58:47):
enforcement is tricky. He said, the curfew is absolutely on
the table and a tool that we can deploy, suggesting
I guess that it hasn't been deployed. He obviously there's
a lot of logistical challenge with detaining kids, holding them
until their parents can pick them up or until they
can be transported home. Yeah, and as I pointed out

(59:08):
earlier in the program, the judicial arm of law enforcement,
which won't hold them anyway and will let them free.
We've heard that many times. Anyway, a meeting starts at
noon in council chambers. In addition to the city curfew,
council is going to be discussed putting more restrictions on
when youth can be in parks and in the banks
at the entertainment complex, as well as ways to increase

(59:28):
police visibility per of all. Speaking with the Enquirer, I
think it's important to have a public opportunity for council
members to ask questions, tough questions, and really provide a
pressure test on strategies that we're deploying. And I can
speak for the chief and the city manager that would
welcome that kind of scrutiny, as this is an all
hands on deck solution situation. Well, I just I have

(59:50):
to sort of ask out loud, will they listen to
anybody's complaints or concerns or will they be staring at
their cell phones during this open opportunity for people to
chime in and comment as is typically the case, And
will they help law enforcement enforce the curfew? If you're
going to send them out to enforce the curfew. There's
got to be follow up since a police lieutenant is

(01:00:13):
suing the city claiming he's been blocked from a promotion
for by a retaliatory scheme that's in the complaints stemming
from the departments in his words, or in the complaints
where it's unlawful race and gender discrimination. Lieutenant Andrew Mitchell
sent in his lawsuit that he's next in line to
become a police captain, but Police Chief Threes of THIGI
is refusing to fill other open spots that would clear

(01:00:36):
his path through promotion. Captain the highest rank in the
since a police department that officers are going to achieve
through taking a promotional eligibility exam. Once an officer takes
that test, the scorers are ranked. Top score is promoted
as soon as there is an opening, then over the
course of the next year, the people lower on the
list are promoted as there are openings. Mitchell plays sixth
on the promotion list, which is included in the court

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filings in the lawsuit that lists set to this month.
If that happened, he would have had to retest and
any promotions would start again from the top of the
new list generated by that test. Because of the lawsuit,
the Skiddy agree to a standstill order. Mitchell's lawyer, Zachary Gotsman,
explained that the case will continue in court. If the

(01:01:19):
court determines THEGI has created an opening in the ranks,
Mitchell will be able to take his promotion regardless of
whether the list is expired, Mitchell claims. Mitchell claims thegi's
hostile to him in part because he is a party
to a lawsuit that claims there is a bias against
white lieutenants. He, along with three other white officers, sued

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in May, stating that white lieutenants are passed over for
preferred assignments because the city and the chief make quote
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Six forty fifty five KRCD talk station. Happy Wednesday to you,
Big picture with Jack Adam coming up over the top
of the air and it's love talking with Jack, and
I hope you enjoyed that as much as I do.
And is kind of going through all the things that
Trump's been able to accomplish this such a short period
of time, and it is quite quite quite impressive. I
know that really irks Democrats, but you're getting the benefit

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of this as well. And there are so many Democrats
out there, I mean that are well.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
More.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
All the polling indication indicates that Americans are firmly opposed
to amnesty for illegals. They're happy that Trump was able
to so effectively and quickly shut the border down. That
is a night and day I mean, it's totally night
and day. Biden administration screaming about we need to pass legislation, legislation, legislation,

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No legislation pass. Hasn't been any legislation on immigration since
the nineties. No, you didn't need to pass legislation. You
just needed to decide you were going to close the border.
So that's been effective. The deportation efforts. Say what you
want about the ice raids. They are going after some
just absolutely horrific, horrific scumbag people. Now, sometimes other illegal

(01:04:22):
immigrants get caught up in it when they're going after
bad people. If you're hanging around with bad people, you're
also an illegal immigrant, but you're not one of the
bad people. Sorry, you're probably gonna get caught up in it.
But in the final analysis, you're not here legally, so
they have the ability and the right to process you
through the system and boot you out of the country.
That's just reality. Another thing that I think drove many

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people to the polls in support of the Trump administration
was this whole idea that men can be women, and
that you and I are supposed to accept that just
because someone says I am a woman, even though they
have a twig in berries, makes them a woman and
therefore can compete in sp sports.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Donald Trump's signed an executive order that effect right out
of the gate.

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
No, that is not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Executive Order fourteen to a one outline, the federal government
would rescind all funds from programs that deprive women and
girls of fair athletic opportunities, recognizing two sexes, male and female.
These sexes are not changeable, they say, and are grounded
in fundamental and incontrovertible reality. Sex shall refer to an

(01:05:28):
individual's immutable biological classification is either a male or female.
Sex is not a synonym for and does not include
the concept of gender identity. Well guess what. The US
Olympic and Paralympic Committee USOPC has now issued a policy
update update conforming with President Trump's Donald Trump's order to

(01:05:52):
keep men out of women's sports. Acre to the organization
in the link, USPC is committed to protecting opportunities for
athlete participating in sport. Alongside the International Olympic Committee, International
Paralymic Committee, and the fifty US national governing bodies, USOPC
said it will ensure that women have a fair and

(01:06:13):
safe competition environment consistent with the Executive Order fourteen to
two oh one. Compliance to the order means of US
Athletics athletes identifying as transgender women are now barred from
competing in the women's events at the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
They're allowed to compete, of course, in equivalent mail events,

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so they can still engage in sport. They just can't
pretend to be a woman and run around and compete
against women. US Olympic officials told the national governing bodies
that they would need to implement the Athletic Safety Policy,
adding that quote, the USOPC has engaged in a series
of respectful and constructive conversations with the federal officials since
Trump signed the order. Now, this policy update means that

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local sports clubs also need to bring their rules into
line with the executive order. So there is something else
that's been accomplished. And this is something else that doesn't
poll real well for Democrats. Has seemed to be the
ones embracing the concept that men just by uttering the
words I am a woman actually become a woman. I mean,
no one in their right mind really truly believes that,

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do they. It just flies in the face of logic
and reasons so much, it's just hard to believe that
that was ever even a thing. So mission accomplished on that,
at least in so far as the Olympics are concerned.
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Speaker 13 (01:09:19):
Brian, you mentioned the thing about the all they did
where they said people don't want the amnesty for illeagals,
is so that the Democrats would actually listen to their
constituents for once and do what they want instead of
like you said, you go to city council meeting, they're
on their phones, not paying attention and it's all video.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
There's a group in Chicago. They all had shirts on
it says turn Chicago red and telling the mayor what
they thought.

Speaker 13 (01:09:49):
He's staring through him and staid looking at him. He's
like like, I don't care what you say.

Speaker 10 (01:09:54):
You're stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, I know better exactly, and a lot of mayors
said a lot better they would, And you know, that's it.
That's the problem that they're facing right now. There's all
this post mortem. Trump got re elected popular he won
the popular vote, and they're all looking around the room
wondering how in the hell that could possibly happen. They
haven't looked in the mirror and started talking specifically about
the policies that they pushed that are losing them voters.

(01:10:20):
This transgender thing with sports, that's one. The open borders
that cost so much pain for so many cities in
terms of budget and overcrowding of schools and exacerbating a
housing crisis. I mean a lot of problems as a
consequence of that. And you saw a lot of these
town halls when they would have town halls, when elected officials,

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like in Chicago, for example, sid dark Blues Chicago, they
wouldn't vote for Republican To save their souls, all of
the constituents are there screaming at the elected officials about
the immigration problem, a problem that the citizenry didn't vote for.
In terms of sanctuary City's a policy that was just adopted,
So go up and down the line. And then then

(01:11:08):
I think about the you know, the Big Beautiful Bill
and the fact that middle America kept their tax cut.
That was one of the Quinnipiac questions about the Big
Beautiful What is your perception the Big Beautiful Bill? Are
you gonna benefit from it or not? In the majority
of people said no, I'm not, Yes you are. Democrats

(01:11:29):
keep focusing on the twenty percent cap on corporate taxes,
But what about the tax cuts that you got that
would have kicked in. You would have been paying thousands
of dollars more in taxes as a middle class American
had they not passed the Big Beautiful Bill. That's money
in your pocket. I call that a benefit. You get
to control the direction of where that money goes, not

(01:11:50):
some idiot in Washington, d c. That wants to send
it to some stupid program overseas. And I like the
direction that the Republican Party is going on getting rid
of these energy tax cut It's get a load of
this one that fell out of my seat when I

(01:12:11):
saw this. Ac Cording to a recently published New York
Post report, Biden administration massively puts for the United States
Postal Service to electrify their delivery trucks. Back in twenty
twenty two, the United States Postal Service announcement it expects
to acquire at least sixty six thousand battery electric delivery

(01:12:33):
vehicles as part of its one hundred and six thousand
vehicle acquisition plan for deliveries between now and twenty twenty eight.
Vehicles purchase is part of an anticipated plan will be
beginning to replace the Postal Services aging delivery feed of
over twenty two hundred and twenty thousand vehicles. Fine, there's
your plan. We're gonna buy green electric vehicles. However, the

(01:13:00):
Biden administration's planned to create this green fleet of postal
vehicles has resulted in a mere two hundred and fifty
electric mail trucks in just over two years, this after
already showing out taxpayer funds meant to build thousands of them.
Described as the nearly ten billion dollar project calling for

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more than thirty five thousand, actually it's forty five thousand
battery powered US Postal Service vehicles to be completed by
September twenty twenty eight. Ac quard to the original announcement,
funded in part by three billion dollars in funding from
the Inflation Reduction Act, which was basically the Green New
Deal was not inflation reduction Act. It actually increased inflation

(01:13:43):
as we all know so far, much like the electric
charging stations that weren't built on the billions of dollars
allocated for that. The first the dispersed funds around what
dispersed funds? That means money that's gone out the door
from the Inflation Reduction Act one point seven billion dollars ergo.

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Each of the two hundred and fifty trucks acquired have
cost you, the American taxpayer a minimum of six point
eight million dollars each. I gotta kick out a zero
hedge crunch the numbers on this. So the federal government
is only four hundred and forty forty four thousand, seven

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hundred and fifty vehicles short of its forty five thousand
vehicle goals. So at this rate purchasing around eighty three
electric mail trucks a year, which is the rate that
it's currently going at, it'll take the government another five
hundred and thirty nine years to finalize the plans, way
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Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Guys, get to talk to Jack avid In and get
his dose of his brilliance. Welcome back, my dear friend,
Jack Avident. It's always a pleasure having you on the program.

Speaker 14 (01:15:30):
Oh thanks for having me back. You and I can
discuss anything, and we do, but I normally avoid talking
politics with family, apart from Amesley and one of our
two cats. The other cat is a Marxist wants to
eat his sister's food, believing, as you like to say,
two each according to his needs. However, a conversation with

(01:15:52):
a cousin got us comparing Donald Trump with Ronald Reagan.
This cousin is extremely smart and highly successful, and almost
alone among my relatives. He supports Trump, except he wishes
that Donald could be as presidential as the Gipper. Now,

(01:16:13):
most people who voted for Donald knew they were getting
Don Rickles and did not care, because unlike Democrats, who
care about nothing except tearing down other people and securing
their own power, we care about policy. So yes, it's true.
Reagan was a much more polished speaker than Trump. He

(01:16:33):
did not tweet or send out intemperate truths because there
was no social media back then. Still, it's easy to forget,
my friend, how much abuse Ronald Reagan took in his
own time from both Democrats and establishment Republicans alike. Critics
dismissed him as a crummy be movie actor upstaged by

(01:16:55):
a chimp in bedtime for Bonzo. Reagan was shunned by
the establishment for supporting Barry Goldwater after Governor Reagan loosed
the National Guard on protesters in Berkeley. He was attacked
as a bloodthirsty cowboy for installing medium range missiles in
Eastern Europe and proposing space based missile defense that critics

(01:17:17):
dismissed as star wars. Reagan was called a moron who
got his ideas from science fiction, even though those ideas
helped bring down the Soviet Union. A British TV show
you can still find it on YouTube. It had puppets
and was called Spitting Image. They made Reagan look more
feeble than Joe Biden wandering into the rainforest and when

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he made real mistakes, and yes, Reagan did make some
real mistakes, like failing to protect our marine barracks in Lebanon.
Critics howled for the Keepper's impeachment and Brian It wasn't
just Ronald Reagan. Abraham Lincoln was caricatured as an ape
for imposing a draft during the Civil War, for ignoring

(01:18:04):
habeas corpus their right to do process before he can
be held in jail, for letting Sherman burn the South,
and for freeing the slaves. Critics in the North and
South one of Lincoln shots. They got their wish folks.
Even George Washington was abused in his own time by

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his own vice president. We're not talking Mike Pitts. John
Adams claimed, the commander of the Revolutionary forces, who then
presided over our constitutional convention, was unanimously elected. Our first president,
the president who defined that office by the way he
respected the other branches of government. His own vice president

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wrote that George Washington and I quote was too illiterate, unlearned,
unread for his station and reputation end quote, even worse.
N An Adams, a puritanical prig if every there was one,
also thought that the father of our country danced too much.

(01:19:09):
My point, Brian, is that it's tempting to stick a
halo over presidents who were a long gun and a
pitchfork into the hands of the one we have now.
Donald Trump is an epic personality, and he has epic flaws.
He thinks and acts big, he talks even bigger. We
cannot separate all that. A more elegant man like Mitt Romney,

(01:19:35):
who puts the establishment at ease. President Mitt Romney would
never have taken the chances that Trump, Reagan, Lincoln, and
Washington did. Remember Mitt Mitt couldn't even stand up to
CNN's moderator Candy Crowley during a presidential debate, and that
is why Barack Obama won reelection. Look it up, Romney

(01:19:57):
had been ahead up until that debate. As we've discussed,
Trump has grown, He learned a lot after being forced
into the wilderness for four years. We talked about that
last week, he was forced to watch Biden's puppet masters
set fire to this country and the world. Trump also
learned a lot from being shot. He is now more presidential. Sure,

(01:20:21):
we still WinCE at the chaotic way he rolled out tariffs, although,
as you said last hour, look at what's happening now,
country after country. Japan just the latest overnight to make
what looks like a great deal for us and for
the world. And if there's time, maybe I could say
a word later about Jeffrey Epstein. But if mistakes and

(01:20:42):
personality flaws at the price we have to pay to
have a colossus as president, a colossus whose policies appeal
to eighty percent of the American people, that I'm happy,
Brian to wait for Donald John Trump and Ronald Wilson
Reagan to be carved onto Mount Rushmore. What do you say,

(01:21:04):
I'm just observing. Do you think Trump would be as
successful in his first six seven months of the presidency
and accomplished as much had we not suffered through four
years of Joe Biden and his incompetence. No, that's what
we talked about last week. And I also don't think
he would have been as successful if Barack Obama hadn't

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forced us to suffer through those four years. This latest
proof that Barack Obama treasonously used fake intelligence to torpedo
Trump and his entire first term. It's an infinitely bigger story,
as you also said last hour. Yeah, but I'm not
going to minimize Epstein. Yeah, Stary lives, he and others ruined. Yes,
I agree with you. After what looked like a cover up,

(01:21:49):
the White House now seems to be doubling back somewhat.
Even with the House shutting down over Epstein. That's not
going to work for them. Still, let's assume, for the
sake of art, the Trump told Pambondi as Attorney General
to move on from the Epstein scandal because it, supposedly,
critics say, implicates some of his friends or even Trump himself.

(01:22:13):
I'm not saying this is true, Brian, But even if
it were, would that be a reason for us to
support Democrats on policy, to turn our backs on the
MAGA movement? The MAGA principles of limited government, secure borders,
fair trade, peace through strength and yes, transparency, and protecting children,

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which is why so many of us care about Epstein.
The Biden administration blocked the release of these files for
four years, and the courts still have to weigh in.
But regardless of who may be implicated, we must seek
the truth because MACCA is about principles and policies. It
is not a cult of personality. However epic that personality

(01:22:58):
may be focusing one and who's able to deliver on
policy will keep MAGA populism charging forward, even if individual
leaders prove to have feet of clay, which I hope
and believe Donald Trump does not. So let's see how
his ten billion dollar lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal

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turns out. He's been doing pretty well with these lawsuits
about lives. Remember, the Journal is the Republican establishment newspaper
that for decades supported shipping American jobs to China while
calling for this constitutional amendment that I've often quoted, there
shall be open borders end quote. That's their constitutional amendment.

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The Wall Street Journal is the enemy of MAGA principles.
So let's just see if it's story about a supposedly
lude two thousand and three birthday card which we have
not yet seen, holds up, and then release any files
that will not unfairly smear innocent people.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Yeah, and honestly, Jack, maybe you can make some heads
or tails out of these seemingly one hundred and eighty
degree shift on in the Trump administration on those documents.
I can't quite make heads or tails out of it.
But let's assume for the sake of discussion that card
is real. I mean, who cares. It doesn't suggest anything.
I mean, it's just a sophomoric as it's been described

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as the sophomoric thing that someone like you would expect
Donald Trump to maybe do. But is it's going to
undo his administration if he in fact did that? And
all the pictures of Trump with Epstein, you know, I
think of my own life and yours.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
I mean, you've been a public figure for decades. I'm
sure you've gotten a bunch of pictures with a whole
bunch of people over the years that he didn't even
really know. Someone had said, hey, can I get a
picture with you? Jack, and you were like, yeah, sure,
why not. I've been doing that since I've been on
radio nineteen years of radio. There are hundreds of pictures
out there with people that I don't know anything about them.
What happens if they ended up being a pedophile down

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the road. Does I and me being in a picture
with them make me a pedophile? No, but I'm sort
of guilty by the fact that I had some momentary
connection with them, and by all reports.

Speaker 14 (01:25:12):
Of dollars a piece.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I was willing to take a picture with anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:25:17):
Remember again we're talking about two thousand and three. Yeah,
Donald John Trump was a Democratic real estate developer. By
two thousand and seven, Trump had banned Epstein from mar
A Lago we hear because Epstein had made a move
on one of the guest's daughters. Trump knew he was
a creep, had nothing to do with him. Nobody is

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suggesting that he went down to that island and had
anything to do with young girls. I mean, even Alan Dershowitz,
you know, went down to the island because he was
Epstein's lawyer. But nobody has offered any proof whatsoever that
he did anything on tour. Deshwitz went down there with
his family. It's look, there is something there. We have

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fan in the flames by doing that one to eighty.
As you say about the files, eventually what can come out,
what should come out, will come out and we'll see.
But meantime, let's not forget we're a party of principles
and policies. We're not a party of personalities.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Brilliantly stated as always Jack, Here they didn't Yeah, and
there's the Epstein documents. This is just a punt down
down the road until September. I don't know why they
dismissed everybody early when on recess early, just get it done,
get it over with, vote on it. And the other
component of this, Jack is I don't understand the one
to eighty on the Democrats party either. They were not
pushing for clamoring for releasing of any of these documents previously,

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and just because Trump didn't want eighty, now they're all
demanding that these documents be released. I mean, I none
of this makes sense to me, Jack, I'm just totally
befuddled by it, totally.

Speaker 14 (01:26:50):
The Democrats. The Democrats are so completely prostrate as a
party right now. They don't care who goes down in flames.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Yeah, yes, I.

Speaker 14 (01:26:58):
Mean that's that's what Fox talks about every single night.
The Democrats, civil War, Hunter Biden, all the you know
this point, they don't care. We should care whether innocent
people are unfairly smeared. But whether that means that, you know,
we shouldn't be spending more time on this issue, I
think we should. I think that there, you know, is

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fire there for somebody, and it's a bad look for
Trump and his administration and the Republican Party with Mike
Johnson to seem to be sweeping this under the rug.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Yeah, I agree. The optics are just terrible on him.
Jack add the tod always a distinct pleasure to get
your commentary on the Wednesdays beginning at seven oh five
here in the fifty five care SCEME Morning Show. Look
forward to next Wednesday with another discussion. I hope you
and your beautiful bride have a wonderful, wonderful balance of
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Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Since Jack made a passing reference on Hunter Biden, what
is that guy on? Is he back on drugs job?
Did you see the interview with him the other day?
You heard the highlights talking about unhinged and you're speculating
why it is. He actually went on record, but he

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did have a lot of things to say about Democrats
and his policy on immigration. If I became president in
two years from now or four years from now or
three years from now, I would pick up the phone
and call the f wording president of l Salvador and
say you either f warding send illegal immigrants back or

(01:29:56):
I'm going to f warding invade. Okay, all these Democrats
say you have to talk about and realize that people
are really upset about illegal immigration. Biden said, well, f you,

(01:30:16):
how do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How
do you think you have food on your fwording table?
Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you
think does your ffwording garden. He's not a bit of
a terror, isn't he? And that's where he categorizes the
illegal immigrants a bunch of servants that work for rich
people likewhile formerly rich Hunter Biden, who no longer has

(01:30:39):
access to capital since his name doesn't mean Jack squat anymore.
No one's buying Hunter Biden's artwork anymore. I'm not quite
sure what he was hoping to accomplish by going on
record with this profanity laced rant. Certainly didn't do himself
any good, and he certainly went on attack on against
a lot of Democrats as well. So Podcast America hosts

(01:31:08):
who he went after to. A guy named Tommy Veeder
served as a special assistant to Obama, had this to say,
It's good to see that Hunter has taken some time
to process the election, look inward and hold himself accountable
for how his family's insular dare I say arrogant at
times approach to politics led to this catastrophic outcome we're
all living with close quote, Well, you can paint it

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It's time we get talk to Donovan and'eil Americans for Prosperities.
Donovan O'Neil, welcome back, donom It's always a pleasure to
speaking with you on the fifty five KRSE Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Brian, always good to start my morning with you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Let's talk veto overrides, uh they didn't override all of
the ones related to property taxes, but we did get
something accomplished the other day. I know AFP was behind
the effort to restore those provisions in the budget that
allowed for a small measure of potential property tax relief.
Got to qualify all of it because it wasn't going to,
you know, immediately result in our property taxes drafting, but

(01:33:10):
it would have provided some measure of flexibility going in
that direction. For whatever reason, Governor de Wines struck those
provisions from the tax bill, claiming that they needed to
be looked into more, which is crazy considering the the
our elected officials have been looking at this for a
solid year and that's how they came up with a
list of potential property tax relief provisions, some of which

(01:33:33):
were ultimately incorporated into the incorporated into the budget. So
where are we on this right now, Donovan and Neil?

Speaker 15 (01:33:39):
Yeah, I mean, I think I think folks are a
little deflated after that result. But you know the reality
is we we've over in one of those four provisions,
and that's an important one. It's a treat and taxation
provisions and so what that's what that'll do and that
goes into effect after the Senate passes it, centflaws to
vote on it. It'll allow remove some of these inflamed

(01:34:03):
language like emergency levees, and it'll remove some of the
confusing language like replacement levees. And so it's an important
piece in the transparency side of the equation, But on
the relief side of the equation, we still need things
to get done. Their studies have been completed, the testimonies
all filed and delivered, but the governor, as you pointed out,

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had vetoed some of the other provisions that would resolve this.
And now I think we're sort of in a bit
of a limbo over the next few weeks till we.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Come back in the in the fall. Have you seen
any further statement from Governor de Wine's office about his
reasons for getting rid of the all three of those
property tax proposals, again, because they had been what I
understand is thoroughly discussed and thoroughly studied in advance, and
out he comes striking those provisions and saying we need
to look at him further. It just doesn't seem to

(01:34:53):
make sense or add up.

Speaker 15 (01:34:54):
Donovan, Yeah, No, I mean the you know, the committee,
the select working group of eleven members has been named.
They're going to meet for the first time tomorrow afternoon
at two o'clock, and they've got a charge to come
up with a list of working solutions, workable solutions by
September thirtieth, you know. But the thing is, I think

(01:35:16):
what it ultimately is is because this working group is
made up of these folks, the thirty nine hundred political
subdivisions across the state of Ohio, the schools, the libraries,
the cities, the townships, the villages, the counties. Don't want
to have to make tough decisions with their funding, with
their spending. They don't want to have to go back
to the voters when they need money and make the

(01:35:38):
case for why they need money and how they're spending it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
And so they asked the governor to veto these things.
He vetoed them on their behalf, and now they have.

Speaker 15 (01:35:45):
An opportunity, you know, to kill more time without any
relief in sight for homeowners.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
And so is the reason they didn't want to do
their own damn job, a miss I think so.

Speaker 15 (01:35:58):
Honestly, looking back at testimony, looking at comments that they've made,
and the composition of this work of this Governor's working group,
I think they just don't want to have to actually
do their job.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
They're afraid to have to go back to the voters.

Speaker 15 (01:36:11):
They are sitting on large cash balances because they keep
taking money from the taxpayer without providing any relief or
having any mechanism of accountability. And their solution, their solution
is to shift that tax burden by expanding.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
The homestead exemption is the solution.

Speaker 15 (01:36:30):
That the Democrats and many of the local government officials
have put forward. We're just we want to take it
out of the state general revenue front, and we want
to use that to provide relief. It's masking the problem,
it's not solving the spikes that occur, and it's squeezing
the middle class working families here in the state of Ohio,
when we could actually deliver some real solutions that smooth

(01:36:52):
the problem out, begin to address the issue in the
long run, and give people some immediate relief.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Well, I suppose what of this working group that Governor
to Wine's putting together. I mean, isn't it certainly plausible
that they come up with the same answers and same
suggestions as the working group that led to these three
provisions being in the budget in the first place. In
other words, the securitest route to back to where we
were before given.

Speaker 15 (01:37:18):
So if I laughed, because that's what I actually pointed
that out to a reporter I was speaking with yesterday
on this issue. I said, look, you know, this is
an issue that has been discussed and debated and evaluated
for the last two and a half years. Right, we
had to select working group of legislators, folks who can
actually do something on it, right, compared to this working

(01:37:38):
group that can just issue recommendations. They identified twenty one recommendations,
an eight hundred page report, hundreds of hours of public
testimony from everybody around the state who has an opinion
on it. We've shown a light like every corner of
this issue has been identified. Every possible solution.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
I think has really been vetted and identified.

Speaker 15 (01:37:57):
Now, maybe these folks have something that hasn't been brought
to the table, but many of these folks, Brian, have
been in the ways and means committee rooms testifying or
providing opinions on.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
This and most of their opinions, Brian.

Speaker 15 (01:38:10):
Have been They don't like the ideas that the legislature
is saying they need to do that would actually solve
the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Well, not liking them and coming up with an alternative
that accomplishes what we are looking for, which is some
sort of property tax relief. I mean, I mean, it's
one thing to say I reject that because here's the
reasons why that won't work out. But here's a better idea.
We're missing that sort of ladder component in this discussion.

Speaker 15 (01:38:36):
Well, they have the so their better idea is the
state should pay for this the state. We should shift
the money that the state collects and income and sales
tax and gross receipts tax, and the state should cover
that for the school districts who keep raising their taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
All right, That the devil on that one is in
the details when the money goes out of Columbus out
into the world world, though.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
Isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:39:02):
It is?

Speaker 15 (01:39:02):
Well, and again it's just shifting that burden. Right, we're
not actually addressing the spending problem. We're not actually addressing
the unvoted tax increase problem that these local governments are
able to impose upon their citizens without a vote of
the people. We're just saying, hey, we're gonna actually take
Columbus's money, and we're gonna we're gonna redistribute it out
to inefficient governments around the state of Ohio.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
That's lutnoicrous.

Speaker 15 (01:39:26):
We you know, I shouldn't be paying for poor decision
making in Cincinnati, right, I agree? If the Democrats and
the blue city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County aren't able
to get it done, why should me here in Richland
County have to pay for that. No, that's and that's
what this That's what their proposal essentially is is we're
gonna shift that burden. We're gonna have the state carry

(01:39:46):
our water, and we'll just keep going along until the
next crisis pops. Should solve the crisis now and solve
it for the next fifty to one hundred years.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
All right, Well, I know America is the prosperity, always
has action, plans and plans. I'm moving forward. So they
a couple of provisions are remaining excuse me, remain vetoed
and bring it back and we'll walk through the next
step of the analysis, which is, I know there's that
revoke property taxes in the state of a high proposed
legislation that's floating around out there. We get an update
on maybe where that is. But it seems to me,

(01:40:16):
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Seven forty fifty five KRCD talk stations Right Thomas with
Donald and Neil for Americans were prosperity thinking about the
veto over ride singular two of them did not get
over ridden related to the property taxes in the budget bill.
Were the votes even close on the two that didn't
get over ridden?

Speaker 15 (01:42:55):
Donovan, Well, so it's a bit of a procedural thing.
They didn't even bring those to a vote. They tabled
them because if they had brought them for a vote
and they failed, they would not be able to go
at it again. So you only kind of get one
bite out of veto override Apple. So there's they're working
still to come back. They'll be they always come back
for session days in September October. I think that's when

(01:43:18):
they plan to bring those up and address them. There
you had members who were out of town, members who
chose not to come back into town, and I think
just still some more discussion with members about what we're
trying to do here in the state of Ohio to
resolve this property tax crisis.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
All right now, as for this working group that Dwine's
putting together, that that presumably will result in some legislative
rec changes. I mean, this was all in the budget bills.
They had to pass that like any legislation. So if
they come up with some different proposals or even the
same ones, that's gonna have to be incorporated into legislation
that'll have to be voted on in the normal process,
right well, And.

Speaker 15 (01:43:56):
Unlike the General Assembly, they don't they don't have the
abilities to This working group can make recommendations till they're
blue in the face. Ultimately, it takes the legislature introducing
that as legislation, So you're right, it would have to
go through that whole process, multiple hearings, which is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
You can move those things along fairly fast.

Speaker 15 (01:44:13):
But the reality is that working group won't have you know,
isn't charged to bring recommendations back until September thirtieth.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Okay, so we're not done with veto override votes that
you've established. We know that they can come back, and
they just chose three property ones to go for this time,
only one got voted on. Fine. Doesn't this present a
problem if there's a movement out there to have what
a constitutional amendment here in the state of Ohio circulating
petitions to get this on the ballot that will let

(01:44:43):
us vote whether to eradicate them across the board, this
might fuel that effort, this delay and this working group,
and this idea of going through the legislative process with
whatever future fixes they come up with. I mean, that's
still a woman in the background, though, isn't it the.

Speaker 12 (01:45:00):
Lot of it?

Speaker 4 (01:45:01):
Oh? Absolutely?

Speaker 15 (01:45:02):
And I mean you're talking to the guy in the
organization right that's working every day to eliminate Ohio's income tax.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
So you'll find you're going to find me defending keeping.

Speaker 15 (01:45:12):
Taxes on the books, especially taxes that can kick people
out of their homes if they're failed to be if
they fail to pay them right, which is what happens
if you fail to pay your property taxes even after
paying off your mortgage, and their ballot initiative is there.
It's a very it's very simple language. It's not like
what was that one from last year that was all
the last couple of years that's been all convoluted. It's
four lines, Brian, It's four lines that says in a

(01:45:33):
constitution property tax essentially you can't put a property tax
on any homeowner property owner in the state of Ohio.
And so it's not a complicated ballot initiative. It's a
very simple message. And those folks are doing great work.
They're chugging along, they're getting signatures. We've you know, we
we've seen many of them at the events that will do.
And I think, you know, if if you're a local,

(01:45:56):
if you're a political subdivision, right, who's trying to wait
up the clock and just slow walk a process.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Or reform that is long overdue. This is the sort
of damicles hanging over the head.

Speaker 15 (01:46:06):
And it's the nuclear option that I think a lot
of citizens here in the state of Ohio are eager
to push the red button on.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
If you will well, and I mean, I guess one's
left with the perplexing question, the complex question of what
reaction will there be if that actually passes. I mean,
they're going to have a huge load of work on
their plates and Columbus trying to figure out how they're
going to cover the missing now missing property taxes since
so much of how you know, various entities are funded

(01:46:35):
are predicated on property taxes, and these levies, I mean
you got have to start from scratch with the taxation system.

Speaker 15 (01:46:42):
Uh yeah, yeah, because you know most I think, what
is it, twenty eight billion dollars. I believe I might
be off a little bit there, but is what is
collected I believe in property taxes across the stateable Hio.
Between income and sales tax here in the state of Ohio,
I think that that number comes in in at about
twenty three to twenty four billion and some change. So,
and these property taxes don't ever go through Columbus, right,

(01:47:04):
That's something important here. None of this money is actually
managed by Columbus. It is all levied and authorized by
the local political subdivisions across the state of Ohio.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
And so when you end that, you're ending I mean
at least fifty or more percent of funding to local
public schools.

Speaker 15 (01:47:23):
You're ending significant amount of money that go to your
townships where most of Highlands live, to pay for police
and fire services. Our roads will be fine because Governor
DeWine jacked up our gas taxes in its first tournament office.
But you know, the other kinds of services that you
that most people have come to expect and depend on,
those are in jeopardy. And I think this game of

(01:47:44):
chicken that's being played by political subdivisions where we could
provide people with some relief is ultimately could result in
just an outright elimination of it. And what we do
because again, we won't just stop having police and fire
and schools, right Brian, because those are things most people
to civilized society count on. We're just going to put
that burden on somebody else that tax shifts somewhere else.

(01:48:07):
I think the real solution is, sorry, the real solution
I think here is we have too gang much government
here in the state of Ohio. We really need it
to start to contract, consolidate and that would begin, I think,
to solve many, many, many of the problems, not just
on the property tax issue, but the problems that put
our state in the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Half of the rankings across the country. Yeah, I just
to think of the confounding mess that would have to
It would come about as after the elimination of party texts,
because your local political subdivision is the one that real
lives to the local schools and parks and everybody are
then going to have to go to Columbus and lobby
the elected officials there for their slice of whatever allocation
is coming out of Columbus under whatever formula they come

(01:48:47):
up with, maybe the raise sales tax that cover the
missing twenty eight billion dollars we're talking about, I don't know,
but they're going to have to justify themselves to people
in Columbus, as opposed to justifying themselves the local community
members in the form of lobbying for or against a levee.
You think local control would better manage the finances, and
people in the community would say no, no, no, you've
got too much money school district. We're not going to

(01:49:10):
renew your levee or or or you know, vote for
this emergency levee or whatever. But I just I just
can't imagine how complicated it would be if the money
just resides in Columbus then has to be doled out.

Speaker 15 (01:49:23):
Well, and that's the ironic thing here, right is those
and you think, you think the folks in Columbus, the
legislators in Columbus, are going to want to do any
favors for the very people who've been lobbying against the
you know, dozens of solutions they've been putting forward. Uh,
this is the thing, right, This is this is where
being you know, looking at this every day, both working
in the grassroots or at events around the state with

(01:49:46):
our team at AFP, and being at the State House
and seeing the lobbyists and legislators engaging on this issue.
The solutions here, the solutions have been presented. The legislatures
put forward some very common sense ones that both provide
immediate relief and resolve the spikes and triggers that cause
crises like we've been experiencing for the last few years.
The problem is the local government lobbyists and it's this

(01:50:10):
township trustees, the school board officials, the superintendents, the teachers'
unions and the rest of them have been lobbying against
any common sense solution for the last two and a
half years.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
And maybe they're going to get every.

Speaker 15 (01:50:22):
Little bit they deserve if property taxes eliminate out right
in the state of Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Certainly is possible. Donovan and Neil Americans for prosperity. Any
call to action for my listeners you typically do, I
mean maybe that one small step kind of thing.

Speaker 15 (01:50:35):
Well, yeah, I always go to Buckeye Blueprint dot com.
Buckeye blueprint dot com. You can get plugged in, check
out all. We don't just work on this issue. We
work on a lot of different issues. Learn our message,
learn our mission, and if you want to get involved
in it, sign up and we'll reach out and bring
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Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
I can't encourage my listeners enough to do just that.
Donovan Neil, thanks for all the work that you and
AFP do throughout the week and the year, and I'll
look forward to another discussion with you next week. Always
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Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Seven fifty four to fifty five KO see the talk station.
Just think about the property taxes. I think the most
defensive component of the property taxes is it's they're taxing
us on unrealized gains. You know, I know my house
is worth more now than when we built it back
in nineteen ninety eight, but what is it really worth?
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(01:53:59):
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find out that, oh my god, my house is worth
three hundred thousand dollars more than when I built in.
I'm getting taxed on that higher rate. Your house is
only worth what someone's willing to pay for it at
the moment of sale. So and I understand how the
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(01:54:19):
and yet they're predicating these massive taxes on that. So
there's an element of fairness that's in there that there's
is wanting. Actually, all right, we're gonna hear from Marcel's
sturbage running for Ohio's Secretary of State. Find out what
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on the same thing we talked about Donovan with the

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failure to override the two property tax vetos and whether
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He is running for Secretary of State here in the
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Welcome back. It's been a while.

Speaker 10 (01:55:25):
It's been good.

Speaker 11 (01:55:26):
Yeah, it's been since September. We had some issues then
and we still have some we.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Do and you're running to fix those issues. I understand
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and thank you for your service to our country. What
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just it's just an amazing thing. Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:55:56):
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Speaker 11 (01:55:57):
The privilege is all mine. My parents came to this
country from Europe and it was a pleasure to serve
our country. And I want to serve as well Ohioans,
all Ohioans, and defend these election systems well.

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And that's a critical role of the Secretary of State
is chief elections offer officer here in the state of Ohio.
Are you drawn to run to this position because you
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Speaker 11 (01:56:23):
That's exactly right. You know, you would think coming out
of the military for twenty years, it's time to just reset.
Was forever wars we fought, that fought our nation's battles.
But the fact of the matter is when you look
at our system, we've lost trust in it. And for
in fact, just prior to our November election, sixty six
percent of Americans we're questioning whether we trust in the

(01:56:44):
honesty of the result of that election. And I think
that's the kind of a crisis that we have to
look at and ask ourselves fundamentally, how are we drifting?
And when I put my analysis on this issue, and
I studied our election system deeply in the last two years,
did a number of call to actions. I went out,
I tried to pass and work with the legislature as
a citizen advocate, which is very unusual as a volunteer,

(01:57:07):
and put forward enhanced verifiability for voters. I looked at
the citizenship issue with verification to lack thereof, and I
even looked at the cybersecurity, which is a specialty in
a background that I had working at the Pentagon, I said,
this is not a system that I could understand. Whether
you're a Republican or a Democrat. You're asking yourself, you know,
with these global hacks with Microsoft that and their software servers.

(01:57:30):
This is recent and you know we're using these services,
and so we can't just continue to drift down here
and expect just to keep purchasing and acquiring, spending more
money on cybersecurity. I think we have to revamp and
relook at all the variables of it, and I have
some very concrete solutions. So I'm very much an issue
based candidate and I have an understanding of the system

(01:57:51):
like nobody else in this race right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
Well, that's all wonderful. By way of background, one of
the areas that I always hear about and it sounds so,
you know, conspiracy theory, electronic voting, and everyone's raising the
specter what's going on behind the scenes and the software?
How do I know my my vote has been accurately collected?
You read articles from other jurisdictions and other townships and
other states, and you find out that, wow, isn't that strange.

(01:58:16):
One minute there's you know, a thousand votes, and then
five minutes later there's actually fifteen hundred votes. How did
that happen? Where did this late night dump come from?
As my vote been accurately recorded by the software? Who
made the software? Who is looking into that? These are
all questions that I hear all the time, and yet
I don't know anything about what's going on behind the scenes.

(01:58:36):
I have no personal understanding of how the software has developed,
who's controlling it, and if anything could be modified or changed.

Speaker 11 (01:58:43):
And what I can say to that is, you know,
for the last twenty years, when we have computerized this
entire infrastructure of elections, what we'd failed to do is
upfront create independent security assessment review for those various systems,
so there's not really a third party involved. The vendor
really drives the entire process. The Secretary of State validates it,
but that's kind of a self auditing function. And so

(01:59:05):
when we look at it, how much is this costing us?
And what's happened in Ohio in particular, in just the
last six years, we went from having an eighteen million
dollar budget in the Secretary of State's office to a
sixty five million dollar Bush, and that budget has been
growing because we're having to add these cybersecurity costs which
now are no longer being funded by the federal government,

(01:59:25):
so now our county commissioners are burying that cost. And
so this whole system is being relooked at. And when
you look at this administration, Brian President Trump has called
for decertifying some of these systems because rightfully so the
technologies from the early two thousands. In the early two thousands,
there was not even iPhones, so you don't even have
the ability to meet the degree of what we would

(01:59:47):
call zero day threats that are present. And I'll be honest,
all of these systems are designed to components, the software developers,
the suppliers from overseas. So why can't we get a
supply chain in United States If this is truly critical infrastructure,
if we're truly going to protect that and give people
assuredness and confidence, which they deserve. That's why I'm advocating

(02:00:09):
to go back from a marketing device to pre printed
hand markable paper ballots. They are unhackable, they're the most transparent,
that cost about a tenth and Ohio is already doing
it in some counties I think we need to be
a leading state and go back to that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
And I have no argument with that conceptually, what is
the what are the counterpoints to that? Why why wouldn't
we do that if we can, in fact restore the
confidence in the vote and the integrity of the vote
by going that route.

Speaker 11 (02:00:36):
I think the fallacy that we have is that we've
already spent tens of millions of dollars, so we use
the sunk cost argument. You know, if we have them,
why shouldn't we use them. Well, if you can't secure
them past a two thousand and five security control level,
then you really can't have that degree of confidence. And right,
you know, so what have we done. We have added
poll book e poll books, We've got other things, you know.

(02:00:56):
In Ohio this last selection, we had to suspend the
use of electronic poll books, which are checking devices that
are on polepads. And the reason we had to do that,
in part is because the routers have been compromised and
had a cyber vulnerability exposure event. So the very infrastructure
by which we use in the connectivity of these systems,
which we're told they're not connected to the internet, but

(02:01:17):
the pullbooks are connected in many ways. So that's just
one facet of what I could offer as a Secretary
of State is I've worked with information systems technology. I've
worked at the private sector to secure the Pentagon's top
of the line, modern modern system equipment. And the truth
is a lot of our challenges aren't just in the
realm of cybersecurity. We're failing to properly share information between

(02:01:39):
the Secretary of State's office and the Board of Elections,
as simple information as identity and citizenship. And that's another
area of weakness that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
We have that's not shared.

Speaker 10 (02:01:48):
No, it's not because the way we.

Speaker 11 (02:01:49):
Have it set up right now, because in part the
federal government, we accept all voter registration applications and then
we check after the fact. So nowhere is that the
whether you're talking banking, whether you're talking you would never
get a loan or transact if you weren't.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Qualified or eligible exactly.

Speaker 11 (02:02:06):
And so with respect to the election systems, we have
eight point two million registered voters, and those eight point
two million registered voters cannot be qualified for eligibility just
by the Board of Elections. So we use the Secretary
of State and our Bureau of Motor Vehicles to do this,
But why couldn't the Secretary of State ensure that the
Board of Elections has access to that official data? And

(02:02:27):
that's where the battle is and that's where I'll take
Ohio to ensure proper information sharing.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Now, that doesn't sound like a challenging ask or so,
it sounds like something that should already be in place.
So what hurdles need to be overcome to get something
so seemingly important and to ensure that illegals are not
voting in our elections? What are not allowed to do?

Speaker 10 (02:02:50):
Well?

Speaker 11 (02:02:50):
It all starts with process and being the fact that
I've served in the military and organizational leadership level. You
look at every process and you break it down. And
that's what I've done in an exhaustive analysis of our
election laws or policies or procedures. And I think we
could cut down on the risk and start looking at this,
Brian from a risk management, threat assessment standpoint. And that's
the difference between I think what a political secretary of

(02:03:11):
state doesn't do because they see that position as a
stepping stone because as you know, how many how many
times does a secretary of state try to run for
Senate or governor? My focus is just to do this job.
I don't need to rotate and I don't need to
stay in this position. What I need to do is
I need to address and fix the issues.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Marcel Sturbage my guest in studio today again. You can
find them online at does Sturbage strbich four fo r
sturbagefoohio dot com. Check out his policies and admire his
unbelievably impressive military background. They would take it a little
slightly early break, we'll bring back Marcell. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Eighteen fifty fifth KR See the talk station. Marshall's surbageons
right for Secretary of State here in the state of
Behind has got good idea as an election integrities background
certainly lends itself to that role, most notably, as he's
demonstrated in his brief comments earlier, his tech abilities. He's
very savvy when it comes to technology and maybe iron

(02:06:16):
out things in terms of our concerns over the election
are the ballots that we cast? What other motivations and reasons?
What are the policies are you're running on for your
campaign as Secretary of State?

Speaker 11 (02:06:26):
Marcel Yeah, Well, first and foremost, you know, I'm raising
a family here in Ohio to six and eight, and
I want them to have a system that can trust
and believe in. And I don't want any type of controversies.
You know, elections have become overly complicated, costly controversial.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
That doesn't have to be that way.

Speaker 11 (02:06:42):
Some of the things that I would propose up front
are really common sense based. First of all, voter idea
is supported by eighty four percent of Americans, and when
it comes to Ohio's elections, voter idea only applies if
you vote in person. So what that means is that
for the one million Ohioans who are who have been
casting their ballots by mail in they are not required
by law to cast a or to submit a copy

(02:07:05):
of a photo. I d we should quickly close that
loophole that we did when we passed our original voter
ID bill, and we argue against it because of convenience, Well,
there are so many opportunities for people to get a
copy of a photo ID to include when they obtain
their identity credentials.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Well, you're gonna, i hate to say this out loud,
it come September. You're gonna need a photo ID to
prove your age when surfing porn sites here in Ohio.

Speaker 10 (02:07:31):
That's a great point.

Speaker 11 (02:07:32):
Yes, they passed that legislation, Bride, and so this is
a no brainer and we need we need to go
right to that. I think the other area, as I
talked about, preprinted hand marketable paper ballots should be the
norm in the primary method by which we cast ballots.
It will save our counties tons and tons of money
when it comes to eligibility verification checking people. Let's give

(02:07:55):
our Board of Elections both the means and the mandate
to check for citizenship, ident and residency. Give them the
same access that the Secretary of State has. So those
are three really upfront, common sense approaches. I would further
advocate for a couple areas to reduce the likelihood of
third party groups. I don't know if you recall this, Brian,
when I was on your show last year and in

(02:08:15):
Hamilton County, we had these third party voter engagement organizations
and while our administration touts the fact that we've stopped
dark money from interfering in our elections. That doesn't mean
that we've stopped nonprofits or for profits from falsely registering people.
And here in Hamilton they falsely registered canvassers did hundreds
of people last year. Well, they didn't close that issue

(02:08:36):
or that loophole. It still exists. So we have to
closely look at what role, if any voter engagement organizations
that are paying canvassers should play. Really, there's no reason
we have online registration at this point. We have a
number of agencies to register us. Why are we adding risk?
And then we need to look at instead of having
twenty eight in person voting days, which is a logistical burden,

(02:08:58):
it's a cost burden. I would like to see us
and I would commit to working toward what the administration
and White House has said, which is let's get toward
a same day in person voting. With that said, for
people who do work and it's untenable for them to
get to the polling location, like they're confined disabled, let's
say they're poll workers that day, We'll go to an

(02:09:19):
exception based mail in ballot system. So having a valid excuse,
still allowing twenty eight days of early valid excuse mail
in voting. I think if we paired those two close
the voter id loophole, and we address the ability of
a Board of Elections to actually verifying valid a people
up front, we would be hitting on all cords and

(02:09:39):
we would really reduce the risk that bad actors would
take advantage of this thirty day period. And I think
all of those are within the realm of four years
of a Secretary of State who has the will to
do this, and I am the person.

Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
Today and a governor who shares your vision.

Speaker 11 (02:09:53):
Exactly, the governor who's pursuing actually enhancing civic education wanting
to introduce for example, because as Governor to be, Ramaswami
wanting to introduce a citizens Service exam for twelfth graders, well,
I would pair his proposal up by introducing a curriculum
post election where students can actually participate in a hand

(02:10:16):
counting exercise using the vote casts prior in that election,
so that they can have some familiarity with what that is.
I think the reason we're having so few people participating
in part in these processes is they don't have familiarity
or buy in. And I think if we start to
get people involved in more public involvement at the polling
location besides the computerized the heavy dependence on computerized casting,

(02:10:40):
I think we would start to open the minds of
a lot of young people paired with his policies, and
we could do some really good things and galvanizing this
young generation to care again about voting and about democracy
and about what it means to be a citizen. So
I think that Governor Ramaswami and a Secretary of State
Marcel Sturbage would work hand in glove to be able
to enact these changes. And that's where I think we

(02:11:01):
get back to this state of excellence mindset.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Well, I know, granting authority to do business in Ohio
is one of the jobs of Secretary of State. In Ramaswami,
I mean, he talks a great game in terms of
getting making Ohio the number one destination for new businesses.
I love his energy policy making Ohio the leading producer
of energy. Small nuke reactors, for example, provide an abundance electricity.
We could be a real powerhouse. What can the Secretary
of State's office do if you were there to help

(02:11:27):
Ramaswami and the rest of Ohio fulfill that goal.

Speaker 11 (02:11:30):
Well, we would certainly work together. In the Secretary of
State's Business Services Division is where the rubber meets the
road for business licensing and LLC and corporation, So making
sure that that process is streamlined, that it's transparent. Let's
say you're a first time business owner. That could be
arduous to figure out how to go through the filing.
So to ensure that there's information system technology we could

(02:11:51):
adopt that can allow you to see where your application
is in the process, that'd be nice.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Yeah, And so if you're.

Speaker 11 (02:11:57):
A recurring a business filer or you know an attorney
that's working for another you tend to understand how to
navigate it. But what if you're a mom and pop
right you know now, I will say there are some
guides on those Secretary of State's website that help people
with this. But with that said, you know, following that
process and being able to see where your application is

(02:12:17):
is an area of improvement that I would advocate and
working with a Governor Ramaswami, I would be the facilitating
point for a lot of those. I think we had
one hundred thousand business filings so far this year and
we're on tap to double that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:31):
So it's a critical part.

Speaker 11 (02:12:33):
It's not something that I speak as much about because
the election systems need a lot of care and tender,
but when it comes to business services, administration will look
for improvements there as well.

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
Wonderful Marcell sturbagefoohio dot coms where you find them, encourage
you to donate. You're off to a good start in
terms of campaign finance, and congratulations on that. And my
next guest someone I know, you know Jack Windsor. You've
been on Jack Windsor's Windsor Report quite a few times.

Speaker 11 (02:12:57):
I have, and he and I helped break open a
lot of these stories on where we are in terms
of citizenship verification. Last year was a big, big question
as to whether we're on top of that issue. And
he's endorsed this campaign as well.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Oh good.

Speaker 4 (02:13:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:13:12):
A lot of people, like a lot of grassroots and
other folks that really just want to see change and
some new vitality in our executive offices are taking a
strong look and that's why we did raise over two
hundred thousand dollars in six weeks and that's a great
start point. I'm blessed humbled by the support. And I'm
going to work every single day to win this election.

(02:13:33):
It's in May of twenty twenty six, so got a
little time, a little bit of time, but that doesn't
you know, when you're not in the system, you have
to do double the work. And again, I'm motivating and
driven to make Ohio better. And I don't need the position,
but I want the position because i want the ability
to make positive change.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
That's why I'm in this race. Thank you for appreciate
your enthusiasm.

Speaker 4 (02:13:53):
Marcel.

Speaker 1 (02:13:53):
You and I will talk again between now an election.
Of course, You're always welcome here in the morning show.
Good luck my friend again. Start for Ohio dot com.
You can learn more about his campaign about the man
himself coming up, Good Friend and Marcel's Jack Windsor, editor
in chief the Isle Press Network. Of course, a couple
of those property tech veto overturns did not go through.
We talked earlier in the program with Donovan and Neil

(02:14:15):
from Americans for Prosperity about the one they did overturn,
what of the other two and what do we have
in store for our future with property taxes? Jack Winsor
on that coming up next eight twenty seven right now
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Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
Ay thirty one fifty five kr SE the Talk Station,
Happy Wednesday, and welcome back to the fifty five KRC
Morning Show. Editor in chief of the Hump presid Network,
Jack Windsor also apparently friend of my last guest, Marcel Sturbage. Jack, Good,
have you back on the morning show. Hey, it's great
to be here, Brian, thanks for choosing me today. I
understand you and have endorsed Marcel Stirbage for Secretary Stay.

Speaker 4 (02:16:01):
I have.

Speaker 12 (02:16:02):
Marcel has been a great source for many of the
stories we've written on Ohio election reform, and a guest
on my radio show multiple times and just quick and Dirty.
The reason I've done it is that I think he
is the guy who actually understands what the gaps are
in Ohio's election integrity and has a plan to get
it done. And he's not running around Ohio going, hey,

(02:16:24):
we've got the gold standard in election election law, no
election outcomes.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
He is definitely not singing that tune, but he is.
He's very coherent and very clear on what he wants
to do to ensure the integrity the election. He just
went through it, and he was able to rattle off
quite a few things, some of which you just kind
of scratch your head, Jack and wonder, well, why the
hell isn't that in place already? How difficult can it
be to ensure that someone is actually a citizen of
the United States of America before they cast a vote.

Speaker 12 (02:16:51):
Yeah, it's wild, isn't it. And what he's talking about
right now, he's been talking about for a while. And
when President Trump obviously was inaugurated, one of the first
things he talked about was making sure that we reform
election laws and increase election integrity and spoke to the
very thing that Marcell's talking about. We should not be
putting people who are not citizens on the voting roles

(02:17:13):
because it just it's an exacerbated risk, and of course
it takes time and money to take them off the
voter roles, and it seems like a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
It really is. And again, I just it's one of
the frustrating things that I'm sure it's equally frustrating for you, Jack,
knowing how you are about politics, why is why are politics?
And how it's so frustrating. Republicans run the show. They've
got both houses, they got the governor's office, they have
Secretary of State's office, they have the auditor's office, they

(02:17:42):
have everything. You think it will be this well oiled, efficient,
you know, fiscal responsibility, limited government, free market kind of state.
And yet it's like hurting cats up there.

Speaker 12 (02:17:53):
It really is, isn't it. I Mean, first of all,
you have the I call the rhino problem. There are
Republicans in name only, and then you know the other issue.
There are people who are Republicans and they're in these
districts that are purple where sometimes it's hard for a
Republican to pull out a victory, and so that shows
up and sometimes how they vote or don't vote, or

(02:18:14):
what they do while they're at the state House because
they recognize that there are people who are on the
left side of the aisle who might not be so
happy if they go, you know, too far right, and
it is it's maddening. You would think with the trifecta,
is what Republicans have here that we get hew, G've
a lot more done.

Speaker 1 (02:18:31):
You would absolutely. Anyway, Well, a change of governor would
would be very helpful. And I'm keeping my fingers crossed
for VV. Ramaswami because he's got great ideas and he
is as an enthused guy as you can ever find. Jack,
He is super fantastic.

Speaker 12 (02:18:47):
And midterms are always tough for the party in charge,
and so in Ohio, Donald Trump is won here multiple times,
obviously by wider margins each time, and without him being
at the top of the ticket. You go, Okay, do
you have somebody to put at the top of the
ticket that can help Republicans down ballot? And the Veke
brings an energy and attention that I think is good

(02:19:09):
for Republicans here in the Buckeye Stay.

Speaker 1 (02:19:11):
Jack wins Or, editor in chief of High Press Network.
When we come back, we'll get on focus here and
we'll talk about the efforts to override Dwine's vetos, one
of which was successful, but what of the other two?
More with Jack Wins are on those after these brief words,
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Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
Hey thirty seven at fifty five KRCD talk Station, Happy Wednesday.
Brian Thomas Swift, Jack Winsor, Editor in chief of the
Hoigh Press Network pivoting over to the budget. The budget
can in Ohio here contain three I call them babystep
but some efforts to help us deal with the outrageous
property tax bills. We're facing three separate provisions to wind

(02:20:48):
the line. IM vetoed all three for reasons that still
escaped me and Jack, maybe you can explain that if
you figured it out. But he said, we need to
study them more. We need a working group to look
into this. Well, by all accounts, they've been studying and
looking at this with a different working group leading up
to the budget, which incorporated three ideas from the prior

(02:21:09):
working group who came up with like twenty three different
suggestions on how we could deal with property tax. So there,
the work has been done. There, it is in the bill.
And yet Dwine chooses to veto those but not veto
the six hundred million dollars going to the Cleveland Browns.
So you may or may or not want to address
that one, Jack, But that just really frankly pisses me off.
But they did successfully override one of the three vetos.

(02:21:32):
So where are we on this?

Speaker 5 (02:21:33):
Jack?

Speaker 12 (02:21:35):
Yeah, so there were three or actually there were four
going back that he that he vetoed. It was a
school cash balance carryover forty percent, right, There was a
recalculating the twenty mil floor, which gets you know, so
far in the weeds, my mind starts to hurt yep.
And then there was empowering the county Budget commission Authority

(02:21:56):
allowing them, essentially this group missioners to say no, now
that's excessive, we can't do that, so more local control.
And then the one that actually was overridden on Monday.
It takes away I call them tools for schools and
other taxing authorities in the form of the types of

(02:22:19):
levees that they use, and one of the examples that
I give is what they would call emergency levees or
restricted emergency levees. Those tools are taken away, and frankly,
part of it is that those words can be misleading,
They can be misnober yes, misnomers when these things are

(02:22:42):
being cussed and discussed during the budget process. One school
district we found was in an emergency levee situation for
twenty years and one lawmaker said, okay, now, explain to
me an emergency that last twenty years. And so these
are those structural changes that really give their design to
give voters more transparency when they go to the ballot box.

Speaker 1 (02:23:03):
All right, but they didn't vote on a couple of
the overrides. I learned this morning from Donovan and Neil
from Americans for Prosperity. They were concerned about voting on
those because they didn't know if they had enough votes
to override. And they only get one bite at the
apple in terms of voting to override the vetos, so
they put it on hold. So maybe in September or

(02:23:23):
whenever when they come back, they're going to vote on those.
But I guess if they weren't sure they had enough
votes to override the veto, there's no certainty that those
are going to be overriddenhen the next vote. That's a
great observation, and I'm with you on that.

Speaker 12 (02:23:36):
I talked to State Representative Beth Lear and I said,
do you think you can take another crack at these
sometime later in the fall when everyone officially returns from
summer recess. And the answer was yes. But I want
to go back to what you said earlier, Brian. Some
of the things that have caused outrage here. Number one,
it appears that the can has been kicked down the

(02:23:56):
road so far that there's not going to be any
immediate property really. Now, there are some people who would
say these reforms were not going to provide immediate property
relief anyway. But you said DeWine wanted to take a
better look at this. Well, you also said there was
a commission, bipartisan commission that created over twenty property tax

(02:24:17):
reform ideas that were baked into this budget, and DeWine
of course took his veto pen and cut those out.
But the thing with DeWine's working group is, now we
found out yesterday there's more reason for people to be
upset when he originally put that together.

Speaker 1 (02:24:34):
The two people he put in charge are lobbyists.

Speaker 12 (02:24:37):
One is from the Cincinnati area Bill Sites, he's a
former state representative, and the other is former Congressman Pat
T Berry, who's now CEO of the Ohio Business Roundtable.
But Sites, for those who don't know, after leaving the
state House, he's now a lobbyist. And get this, Brian,
this is the part that has people really peeved. He
represents clients like Cincinnati Public Schools, Sycamore Township, Cincinnati, Hamilton

(02:25:01):
County Public Library and you go, okay, well, what does
that matter because those are entities that are reliant on
property tax. Yeah, so you go, okay, the guys that
he put in charge of this commission are our lobbyists
that that are probably going to be there pushing for
the reforms that most Ohioans don't want. Right, And then
we found out yesterday he released a list of nine

(02:25:23):
other folks to be on that commission, And as I
look at them, there's like, you know, a treasurer, auditor, auditor,
superintendent of public of one public school system, another superintendent,
Hamilton County commissioner, Pickaway County commissioner, and then a Pike
County commissioner, And you go, Okay, that's good. These local
taxing authorities are represented. But I don't see any state reps.

(02:25:46):
I don't see any policy experts. I don't see any
property tax experts. I don't see any small business you
know representation.

Speaker 4 (02:25:53):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:25:53):
And so it's it's so focused on this one sector.

Speaker 12 (02:25:57):
I think a lot of people are now going, all right,
what's what's the wine going to try to bake up?
And to see you have enough control over some Republicans
in the General Assembly that we're going to get more
watered down property tax reforms.

Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
I think anybody's reading tea leaves will probably go in
that direction. Like me, Jack, I think that's exactly what
we're going to get, knowing Dwine's record, most notably and
considering who's on the Han Select committee there. But this
raises sort of an interesting specter. It will kick the
can down the road. Whatever the committee comes up with
is going to have to be turned into some form
of legislation that's going to go through the legislative process

(02:26:32):
since we're done with the budget, and if they don't
override the vetos, that is to say, doesn't this make
more likely or but create the potential of the constitutional
amendment petition that's circulating more likely to pass because they
are kicking the can down the road and we are
not going to be getting any immediate property tax relief
that we can see. I mean, even baby steps might

(02:26:52):
go along the way, and you could advocate, no, no,
give it time to work, give it time to work.
We'll get the relief. It just is going to be instantaneous. That,
my friend, will be instantaneous. Yes, it will be instantaneous.

Speaker 12 (02:27:04):
And as I look at this, my visceral response, my
hot take on Monday, when the General Assembly just got
one of those things overridden, I said, this is actually
going to be positive for the people who want to
abolish property tax because people are already peeped. And I
got emails yesterday from folks who said, well, isn't it
interesting that the General Assembly did or the House did

(02:27:26):
what they did on Monday? I no joke, got a
tax bill or a notice on Tuesday that said, you know,
my taxes are going up X amount, which is you know, astronomical,
And so you're you're going to have this really interesting situation, Brian,
where people are going to be even more pissed off than.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
They are now. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:27:42):
But but the lobbying, I don't know, power influence resources
of the people opposed to massive text reform.

Speaker 13 (02:27:52):
Here.

Speaker 1 (02:27:52):
I think you're seeing it, and I think the wine
leads them.

Speaker 12 (02:27:55):
So it's going to be this clash of old way
of doing it in politics, and probably a bunch of
money behind a campaign to make sure that that thing
doesn't pass, and then a bunch of grassroots people in
Ohio who go, no, come hell or high water, we're
putting this on the ballot and I don't want to
pay property taxes any.

Speaker 1 (02:28:10):
Yeah, and that is definitely going to be the challenge because,
as you point out, I think statement the obvious that
that is going to be a well financed opposition to
that ballot initiative, and you know, just random folks like
me saying it might be a good idea are not
going to be backed by the money. There's not a
lobbying group or some organization that's going to hurt all
the individual people into one sound, solid voice.

Speaker 12 (02:28:34):
That's exactly right. And so right now they're in that
signature gathering phase. In fact, I think the idea was
to have those signatures gathered for later this year, and
it looks like earliest would be May of twenty twenty six.
If they can't get them, it's then November twenty six,
and then you're looking all the way into twenty seven, right,
And so.

Speaker 1 (02:28:53):
People want property tax relief.

Speaker 12 (02:28:55):
Now we'll find out Dewyne's commission is set to meet
on Thursday, so we'll see what they come up with
after that first meeting.

Speaker 1 (02:29:01):
Well, I observed earlier than I had before, Jack, I
just the thing that really irks me the most about
property taxes. It's all predicated on some randomly chosen figure
your house is worth. It's unrealized gain. I've been in
my house for almost thirty years. I know what I
paid when I built it, and I know what they
tell me it's worth now, and it's gone up a
lot in value. It's only worth whatever somebody is willing

(02:29:23):
to buy it, does sell it, or to pay for
it at the time of sale. That's the only time
you ever know the value of your home. And yet
here we are saddled with this insane recalculation because well,
COVID changed the landscape of real estate market in this
country overnight. Yes it did.

Speaker 12 (02:29:40):
And you know, I feel for everybody who has that
unrealized game, because just because your home value goes up
forty thousand or fifty thousand dollars, it doesn't mean that
you have some you know corresponding I know, likewise cash
stash that you can pay your taxes.

Speaker 1 (02:29:53):
I also feel for the older folks on fixed incomes.

Speaker 12 (02:29:58):
My dad, you know, and someone listen probably have dads
and grandparents who are struggling. And it comes down to
the age old question if I've paid my home off
and now I'm on a fixed income or don't make
as much as I used to and I can't afford
my property bill and you can take my home. That
I ever really own my home or did the government
always own my home? And I think that's what has
people so peeved. That why there's so much momentum around

(02:30:20):
abolishing property tax now as the GA and the governor
continue to kick the can down the road.

Speaker 1 (02:30:25):
Well, and that's a course I hear from my listening audience, Jack,
is that you never own your own home. As long
as they can make demands and take your home from
you because you can't pay property taxes, you are not
a real property owner. Jack wins Our editor in chief
of the Ohio Press Network. Check out his podcast what
he has to say throughout the week. I always enjoy
talking with you, Jack. It's a real pleasure to have
you on my program and I'll look forward to doing

(02:30:46):
it again real soon. Hey, thank you to Joe. Thank
you to you as well.

Speaker 4 (02:30:49):
Brian.

Speaker 1 (02:30:50):
Have a great day. You do the same. It's take
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(02:31:11):
Donald O'Neil afp from the Veto overrides and the Governor's
Working Group makes some sense out of that one. Marcel
Sturbage running for Ohio Secretary of State in studio. Check
him out and he's an enthusiastic guy. I like Marcel
so real quick. Here a positive development out of the
appeals court Third Circuit US Court of Appeals two to

(02:31:33):
one ruling said New Jersey's law is in conflict with
federal immigration law, so they struck it down. Third Circuit
Court of Appeals said New Jersey's law was written specifically
to prevent US immigrations and customs enforcement operations crossing major

(02:31:54):
constitutional lines. That law interferes with the federal government's core
power to enforce immigration law, said the judge in the
two to one opinion. Specifically, it's noted that Ice doesn't
build its own detention fill the facilities, but contracts with
state and local jails to provide prisons around the country.
To use his bedspace. New Jersey, back in twenty twenty one,

(02:32:14):
passed the law barring local governments and private companies from
reaching new contracts with ice. State says, we're not trying
to control federal government or federal immigration law, but we're
setting our own rules for businesses operating within our borders. Now,
the judge said that was a subterfuge. Constitution is supreme
inter governmental, and immunity protects that supremacy. New Jersey's law

(02:32:36):
directly regulates the federal government, so it is unconstitutional as
applied to this entity the in the suit. So that's
a positive development. And here's the quiet part being set
out loud resurface video clip. Now, as I read this,
I thought, you know what, maybe Texas and Florida played

(02:32:57):
into the hands of Democrats sanctuary cities, because remember the
borders were being overrun. Texas governor and the Florida governor
said all right, we're putting them on buses and we're
gonna send to these left leaning sanctuary cities like New
York and Los Angeles and Chicago. And they did get
a whole bunch of illegal immigrants shipped up there. Now
me go to this twenty twenty one House Foreigner Affairs

(02:33:20):
Committee brief briefing Democratic Representative Yvette Clark, She's from New York,
talking about needing more immigrants because she needs them for
redistricting purposes. Remember, the number of human beings living in
any jurisdiction is determinative on how many representatives go to
the house. When I hear my colleagues talk about, you know,

(02:33:41):
the doors of the inn being closed, no room in
the end, I'm saying, you know, I need more people
in my district just for redistricting purposes, and those members
could clearly fit here. She's referring to this local Haitian
community that could absorb a significant number of illegal immigrants
into the community, allowing her to keep her numbers up. Well,

(02:34:02):
you remember during COVID, going back to COVID and the phenomena,
the various phenomenon it created, a lot of people packed
up their bags and left. I don't have to put
up with this rat hoole, disgusting infested city called Los Angeles.
I can move to Texas and take my business and
my money and work there. And a lot of people
did that out migration. I'm sure you've read many articles

(02:34:24):
about it. I've discussed them a bunch of times on
the Morning show. Well, when people leave. You've got to
have a replacement population, or the number of representatives goes
down and you have less power in Congress. Enter the
influx of illegal immigrants who will be counted toward that total.
So you actually have one of them on record admitting that.
So Texas and Florida couldn't deal with the overwhelming numbers,

(02:34:46):
they had to send them somewhere. But I think ultimately
it may very well have served the interests of those
Democrat cities quite well, considering they were able to stem
the departure population eight fifty five fifty five k City
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tomorrow among other guests. Speaking of guests, thank you Joe
Strecker for getting Jack add and Donovan Neil and Marcel

(02:35:07):
Sturbage on the program, and of course Jack Windsor as
well podcast at five krsee dot com. I hope you
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