55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, Jon Husted, Judge Berkowitz, Judge Napolitano, John Zinsser

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Five o five at thirty five k rc DE talk
station that'd be Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Said I'm the dude, man, I am not.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I am Brian Thomas, host to thety five kr SEE
morning show, person behind the soundbites such as I am
the dude. Just Jrecker Executi producer. He's got some good
guests lined up today. It is Wednesday, which always is
a great day here on the fifty five KRS morning show.
Subjective opinion maybe, but I always enjoy hearing from Jack Athdan.
Jack joins program Wednesday. It's seven oh five and he'll

(00:52):
be on today The Big Picture with Jack Avidan. His
topic the NFL and Network News can't even read into
that one right now, I have left to speculate. John Houston,
Senator Houston is going to join the program at seven
thirty on the heels of Jack Athdan talking about a
whole bunch of topics. We have a high community colleges
on workforce pell grants, becoming law. Housted joining Bipartisan build

(01:15):
to return stolen refund checks to American taxpayers. He has
been hearing from workers, small businesses, educators, healthcare workers across Ohio.
Will hear what they had to say to John, and
here in the Labor Day endorsement from the International Union
of Operating Engineers Local eighteen scored a Union indorsement endorsement.
Congratulations Senator Houston seven point thirty with John Houston, after

(01:40):
which Judge Josh Berkwitz FOP endorsed. Judge Berkowitz he'll join
the program at eight oh five. Of course, one of
the judges you can vote for coming up in November. Yes,
Judge Enneda. Paul Town is back for vacation and the
FEDS are defending their tortures again, subject matter of his column,
which I get an early copy of, It's good to
meet me sometimes. John's inenzire. Yeah, save Hardy Park Square.

(02:02):
John's inser not to be confused with Todd Enzer, the
our citizen watchdog who's making the rounds this morning on
the heels of the new safety program Jeff Kramerton, councilor
Kramerton coming out with a four point four to five
million dollars plan to address safety concerns. Todd did a
post on that one break down on that momentarily, so

(02:25):
John's inser though story number one here in the City
of Cincinnati hide to Park Square. Yes, the Save Hyde
Park Square campaign. I guess you can chalk it off
as a victory popcorn out and wait long term to
find out if it ultimately is well. Yesterday, the Zoning
Committee Budget now rather the Budget and Finance Committee, since

(02:46):
they City Council comprised of all nine council members, apparently,
they voted unanimously to repeal the zoning ordinance, forcing Hyde
Park residents to swallow a project that none of them wanted. Means,
according to inquire Scott or Fox nineteen Scott Warman reporting,
or is that Enquirer, it means that there will not
be a referendum on the ballot because they're going to

(03:07):
vote today to formally repeal it. It was voting the
Budget and Finance Committee, as I mentioned, so they have
to vote on it again, I guess tomorrow. But of course,
given the unanimity of the vote in the Budget Finance Committee,
no one believes theyre going to change their mind, So
that comes after that. At the request of the developers
who asked them to repeal it, given that the ballot

(03:30):
initiatives on November which would shut the entire project down
court to Budget Finance Committee Chairman Jeff Cameronon and Colleen Reynolds,
who's described as a partner with some lobbying firm who
happens to be working with the developers. H They sent
a letter that developers did to the mayor August twenty ninth.

(03:51):
They wrote that the ballot issue would, in their words,
only divide the community further. Yeah, delay programs and drain
resources that should be directed toward building a stronger future
or building a new development under a different plan, which
seems to be the direction they're going to go. So
they're going to put out a revised plan that will

(04:12):
include apartments and retail, but mixing the hotel, which was
one of the more controversial elements about that, and they
plan on breaking ground next year, according to this Reynolds consultant,
who didn't provide a specific schedule, but said they'll be
submitting a new application to the city as soon as possible.
According to Reynolds from the firm, this allows us to

(04:33):
start fresh. When we decided to get rid of the hotel,
that would have meant a major modification to the plan
development anyway, so we might as well submit a new application.
I love this. Councilman Evan Nolan specifically quoted, but Scott
Warman's reporting, several council members called for the city and

(04:55):
developers in the future two more clearly engage the community
for future projects. Yeah, you might want to ask the
voters where they aren't on something before you say sucks
to be you were doing it. Evan Nolan's quote, As
you know, a tremendous amount of time and money went

(05:16):
in to get where we are today. We are back
at square one, right, we haven't broken ground A student observation.
Hevn't anyway, as you are aware by now. I'm certain
my listening audience is the Hyde Park residents and supporters
throughout the city, and they were in all of the neighborhoods,
collected over eighteen thousand signatures to get the zone and

(05:37):
decision on the ballot, and the developers and the residents
have been sitting down and negotiating ever since. Concessions so
far offered by the developers scrapping the ninety room boutique hotel,
reducing the retail square footage and the number of parking
spaces in the garage, and lowering the building heights and

(06:00):
stepping back the upper floors. I think the height was
one of the primary problems there. The continue to negotiate
the details. Apparently the main sticking point remains the height
of the buildings. Thanks to the reporting, accord to developer,
it's not a eight ain't over the fat lady isn't

(06:21):
singing the Apparently they've reached an agreement, the developer said
on twenty four out of twenty five asks from community leaders. Yet,
the developer wrote, even after these changes, a small group
of Hyde Park publicly stated that they would rather lose
an election than negotiate. Well, we'll hear what John Zin's
Are from Safe High Park Square has to say about
that conclusion. Again, he'll be off the tail end of

(06:43):
the program. Over to safety, hot topic in the city
of Cincinnati, Jeff cameronon councilman, spoke yesterday about his ideas,
calling for a four to five million dollar plan to
address safety concerns. Don't worry, he said. The money would
come from the rest Deserve Fund, which apparently will be

(07:03):
replenished soon when they close out the end of the year.
All right, so reserve fund is where these money? This
money's gonna come from. Christopher Smith and brought up the
railroad money. Where is the railroad money anyway. Anyway, not
sure if any of these projects will be covered by
rail money, because you'd have to decide whether they are
existing infrastructure, and I would argue they probably are not.

(07:27):
Grammarting said his new plan is designed to encourage people
who well kind of are in the middle of those
who have always felt safe and those who never feel
safe downtown. Like there's a swath of people in the
middle that are sort of a little hesitant to come downtown.
We want to encourage them to feel safe. So what
are we going to do? You said, there are businesses
that are affected that rely on people and people commuters

(07:47):
and outside of the city to make the businesses work.
And I think they're really feeling it. We're hearing from them.
In other words, that swathed down the middle is not
showing up because of the perception of crime. Businesses are suffering.
And I suppose his point about there being these three
classes of people, those who always feel comfortable to those
who never feel comfortable in those who sometimes feel comfortable

(08:10):
then never feel comfortable, people I guess are been written off. Anyway,
one point five million of this four to five million
dollar allocation is going to go toward drum roll over
time to have more public visibility of CINCINNTI police officers downtown.
And another problem areas so overtime, the already stressed police
officers will at least have money that'll pay them the overtime,

(08:33):
it doesn't help them insofar as getting time with their family,
exhaling and not working all of the time. That problem
will only be solved by the hiring of an additional
contingent of officers, which is going to take a long time.
Most notably, the budget that was reviewed by Todds ins
Or Citizen Watchdog noted that the projections in the budget
as we move forward the next couple of calendar years
show that the number of police officers is going to

(08:55):
continue to drop. Also, under the plan, five hundred thousand
dollars going to activating curfew centers, but he also tempered
that by saying, well, it's our hope that there will
be very few youth going through this curfew center. If

(09:16):
that's the case, the numbers would shrink, meaning I guess
they wouldn't spend the full half a million dollars. Also
allocated five hundred thousand dollars for more street lighting and cameras,
which he called critically important for a lot of key areas,
a key tool to identifying, addressing hotspots and crime. It's

(09:36):
the balance of the money, at least, as concluded by
Alex Martin over at Fox nineteen's going to a bonding
and sentencing project. Grammting said officers often say, as I
have heard and you have heard here on the fifty
five carries some morning show, what goes on? We've heard
from the FOP presidents Dan Hills can Coober a succession

(09:58):
of officers and FOP leaders saying the same thing. They
arrest criminals, see them back on the streets the very
day they arrest them. Judges, however, I guess they're offering
an alternative theory to that, saying that's not true. What
this will do, this money, the allocation for this study,
they'll look into it, he said. They want to study

(10:19):
it because there's not a data and there's not a
lot of data. So the ongoing of ongoing conversations between
the county and it's their courthouse. But the police department
is our biggest expense, public safety our biggest expense. It's
important that we are at the table. The sheriff the judges,
the biggest stakeholders. So I suppose the roundtable the people

(10:41):
involved in the criminal justice system, the aforementioned judges, sheriffs,
and stakeholders. And see what the problem is, Joe, Don't
we already know the problem lies in the folks like
Judge Silverstein. I mean pretty much right. You get acts murder,
your mother and a pope and three children down the street,

(11:05):
all in one crime spree, and you get out on
no bond or own recognizance bond ankle monitor into cookie.
Just well, don't forget the cup of juice, Joe. You
gotta get a cookie from the judge. You need a
cup of juice to go with it. Oh, murderers don't

(11:28):
get juice, but they do get out on with own
recognizance bond.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Fair.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Fair? Is there a sign of the judges chambers that
says no juice for murderers? That's your criminal justice de
turret right there. Well, hell, I'm not gonna commit murder.
I'm not gonna get juice from Judge Silverstein. Five to
sixteenth right now fifty five cas Detalxtation seven fifty eight

(11:53):
hundred and eight two three talked found five fifty on
at and T phones. Feel free to call me up.
Maybe it's something you want to talk about. Is a
lot going on in the world.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'll be right back up for the fifty KRC All.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Five twenty fifty five GARCD talk Station five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifty five hundred eight hund of day two
three talkun five fifty on AT and T phones. Fifty
five KRC dot com stream the audio directly from the website.
Down Load your I heartmediap so you can listen from
your smart device wherever you happen to be. Good morning, Pollette,
who's maybe still laying in bed with the smart device

(12:29):
on the nightstand. Inside Scoop and breitbarton news column made
Die Tech editor. He was on yesterday along with Daniel Davis,
who got the deep guy from Daniel Davis. Situation is
not getting improved in between Russia and Ukraine. Plus the
Smith event episode one oh five where's Aftab you can
boil it down to that talked a lot about that
crime of course number one on Christopher's agenda of late

(12:55):
Oh yeah, not Trump's look gonna be batting about five
hundred in the legal decisions over the last couple of days.
Here's one where he lost his federalization. And deployment of
the Marines and National Guard to help arrest illegal immigrants
in Los Angeles violates the Posse Commatatis ask According to
Judge Charles Bryer yesterday, Clinton appointing also kind of warned

(13:18):
Trump about the Baltimore, Chicago, and San Francisco deployments, which
he has mentioned several times, said it sounded like a
national police force with the president as its chief. Bryer
mentioned in eighteen seventy eight Possea Posse Commatatis Act, which
does look at the use of military forces for domestic

(13:38):
law enforcement purposes. He said the troops were assigned to
unlawful duties for which they were untrained. Quote. Defendants knew
they were ordering troops to execute domestic law beyond their
usual authority. Whether they believe that some constitutional or other
exception applied does not matter. Ignorance of the laws no excuse,

(13:58):
they said. The three hundred the remaining troops can stay,
but they have to be limited to the types of
duties they perform, and most notably like protecting federal property
state is owner for ten days to give the government
a chance to appeal. So they're still there. In I
mean they have been reduced dramatically, but at least three

(14:18):
hundred maybe more still patrolling. Briar previously issued ruling against
Trump that saying Trump broke procedural laws calling up the
troops without the consent of Governor Newsom. A federal appeals
court blocked that ruling, which allowed Trump to keep the
troops there. Yesterday's ruling from Judge Briar said the administration

(14:41):
deployed the troops without a proper cause, which is required
by the Posse commentatus Acts, saying there were indeed protests
in Los Angeles and some individuals engaged in violence, yet
there was no rebellion, nor was civilian law enforcement unable
to respond to the protest enforce the law. He held

(15:04):
a trial last month regarding the deployment. In his rolling yesterday,
he said troops erected security perimeters and traffic blockades and
performed crowd control, which were the sort of law enforcement
duties that he said go beyond the Posse Commatatis Act.
Repeatedly citing Trump's public statements about deploying troops to other cities,

(15:25):
again comparing it to a national police force. Again, he
can said troops can continue to protect federal buildings now.
Bottom line is Posse Comatatis Act, passed after the end
of the Civil War. Reconstruction limiting the ability to use
army forces for traditional civilian law enforcement activity has been

(15:46):
amended over the years to include other branches of the
military and to allow for some exceptions, such as countering
drug activity. Speaking of countering drug active, what your reaction
does blowing up that the trey d or ad Arragua
narco terrorists boat, killing eleven of them. This is pretty interesting.

(16:11):
Venezuelan drug boat Southern Caribbean. Dozen suspected gang members, narco
terrorists now dead. Trump said a news conference over the
last few minutes, we literally shot out a boat, a
drug carrying boat. A lot of drugs in that boat.
And you'll be seeing that, you'll be reading about that.
It just happened moments ago. And then thereafter he released

(16:31):
a video on his truth social showing exactly the boat,
the boat cruising along and the next thing you know,
he says it's gone. Terrorists were in international waters transporting
illegal narcotics into the United States. Trump said the strike
resulted in eleven terrorists killed in action. No US forces
harmed in this strike. Let this service notice to anybody

(16:54):
even thinking about bringing drugs into the United States of America, beware.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Twenty five
with you five K or CD Talks Plantation. I just
kind of I mean, I'm asking out loud for a friend.
Is there anything like the due process out there? I
asked this only because if you think about it in

(17:16):
the realm of things, if you had a van filled
with let's say as much drugs as we're in the
boat that got blown up, and you're driving down the
street and law enforcement's encountering you, clearly that's kind of
what happened here because someone launched the missile that blew
the drug dealers up or the drug farriers couriers. I mean,

(17:41):
if you were on land here in the United States
that have to take you to court, you know, they
hold you without bond, right as long as you were
in Hamilton County and go through the whole trial process
and be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and wouldn't
be subject to the death penalty. Here it's like, hey,
guy's got drugs in the boat. Five six fifty five

(18:03):
KR City Talk Station local stories or phone calls. I'll
go either way.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Stick around fifty five KRC in today's Marketers report, Eric.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Five thirty on a Wednesday, Happy Wednesday, one week from today.
Listener lonch Anderson pub and girl can't wait. Sure up
to see you there and go to throws. Got a
couple of callers online. Let's start with Tom, Tom, welcome back,
my friend.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Good morning. How you doing today?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
They're doing pretty good? Pretty good?

Speaker 7 (18:31):
Uh good good. I want to I want to switch
gears just slightly on you. One of the contributing factors
to all the chaos and stuff that goes on in
the neighborhoods and cities is, uh, you've got you've got
children having children, and they have the children, the apparent

(18:55):
children have no.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Idea what they're doing. And let's be honest, when any
of us.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Had children, our first child, we had no idea what
we were doing.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I was just going to make that point. Yes, yeah, but.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
Hopefully we had ourselves in a situation where we were
able to take care of our own children. And that's
that's kind of the important part of here.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Of you bring it. You bring a child into the world, and.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Somebody's got to feed that child, somebody's gotta hopefully keep
an eye on that child and raise the child, teach
a child. And if you've got children doing this. When
I say children, I literally mean you got miners or
even teenagers having kids.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
And it's a consequence.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
They wanted to fool around and have fun like we
all did, but they're not in a position where they
can take care of this kid. So now you got
a baby, So so what do they do. One of
the things they do is they go they go see
grandma and grandpa their parents.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Hey can you help out? Hey, I need a place
to live. I got a kid. Now I'm pregnant, I
got knocked up.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I need you know.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
Now, now we're tapping into mom, grandparents' resources and whatever else.
So and all this is a result of people not
being responsible. And again, just to be fair, we've all
been irresponsible. This isn't this is everybody has to deal
with this, but it's a contributing factor.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
And when you got.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Children having children, and then those kids see how how
life goes and how they how their family went, they
they start having children when they're young and and all that,
and it's just compounds and and so all these all
these people all these kids have are they're they're taking
resources up and they're stretching you know, these these dollars

(20:47):
that we make, they're stretching them out real thin. And
I'm not I'm not just talking.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
About the taxpayers. We can get to that in a second.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
But these families, they only got so much money and
they got to take care of these kids.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
And and and so we we have to make sure.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
The point is, we have to make sure that we're
teaching our children to be responsible because you're active of
irresponsibilities is not just gonna affect you, It's gonna affect us.
It's gonna affect your whole family, it's gonna affect that child,
it's gonna affect the whole neighborhood in the city. All
of this stuff combined together, it's causing a lot of problems. Yeah,

(21:24):
because these children need to be taken care of. And unfortunately, uh,
this this goes across.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
As the political spectrum.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
There's there's Republicans and Democrats, conservatives, liberals that are that
are irresponsible because they want to get it on or
or whatever, and they and they cause us this trouble.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
But you clearly have when you look at the uh
the stands of these different political parties.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
You have a party who is who is preaching do
whatever you want, We'll take care of you, will provide
for you whatever you need.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
And that is a.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
Very dangerous thing to be saying to people who are
already being irresponsible.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
So one more reason why.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
We have to make sure we tell people to be responsible.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
I don't vote Democrat. Have a great Dame Bryan.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Thank you too. Tom a time packaging that art me
wants to think that, you know, are the irresponsible before
committing irresponsible acts supposed to consider the broader societal implications
of what they're doing. It is that too much of
an ask. I mean, since the very successful among us
in this society are being asked to well have their

(22:33):
taxes raised and more of their money confiscated by government
in order to fund the various programs which help whattom
will characterize as the irresponsible. So it seems to me
that there's a broader societal obligation. I suppose if you
can make the argument as to the rich and their's
societal obligation to help those on life's margins, do folks

(22:53):
on life's margins not have a reciprocal societal obligation to
avoid engaging in that type of conduct which ultimately creates
this massive, long term generational social welfare dependency. Legitimate question
at least real quickly here before I caught to pause, Bobby,
you're gonna have to hold to get your call out
out of the gate. Coming back. In sofar as not
being a responsible or capable parent, any person who is

(23:16):
placed in a position of parenthood for the very first time,
I would argue, probably are irresponsible and don't know what
they're doing. They'll help, they'll try, let me read books,
and they'll do everything, and they'll consult people who have
more information, et cetera, et cetera. Solution Brian Thomas mess
At methods Solution, Mary a pediatric nurse, five point thirty

(23:41):
five fifty five Care Citytalk Station. I have joked, I
don't know that my children would be alive if it
were not for my wife, who practice at the neonatal
ICU unit at Children's Hospital. When we met, Bobby, your
next stand stack as stupid as well, stick around and
me right back fifty five by forty and a Wednesday,

(24:03):
happy one to you. If I went three seven, four,
nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three
talk or pound five fifty on at and t punk
to a stacking stupid But I have Bobby on the phone.
It was kind enough to hold over the break, Bobby.
Welcome back, my.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
Friend, Happy hump day, my brother, pay flagged family, and
hellfire missiles. When you've got though, you're only going to
keep your freedom.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Especially you've got a boat full of drug smugglers.

Speaker 9 (24:28):
Well, we still got those truckloads of pikes already for
these terrorists and everything a little metaphor, but they've got
a lot coming yet venezuel especially since we're gonna go
hidden corner.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
And then yeah, I'm kind of scratching my head over
that one. But you can put ships in international waters
wherever you want. Whether it's a prudent thing to do
or not, I don't know. But I'm not quite sure
that I'm ready to start launching missiles into the interior
of Venezuela for really any reason. But we are. We are.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Well, let me ask you this, what about the Justice
Department in the FBI completing their investigations almost they've been
interrogating a lot of people. I wonder how many of
the emails and text messages that they've recovered.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Interrogating people in what context, Bobby.

Speaker 9 (25:22):
Well, they've already interviewed a lot of the defendants and everything. Well,
not defendants, the people that were beat down. The FBIS
all went ahead and interviewed a lot of those people.
I'm just wondering when they're going to go down and
start talking to a lot of the city officials.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh oh, you're talking about the city of Cincinnati, the
late July beat down. Yeah, okay, Well I didn't have context.
I know what you were talking about. It's like we
have authorities across this great land of oars and throughout
the world that are busily interviewing people or perhaps waterboarding them,
as the case may be. I just don't know which
corner of the universe you were talking about when you
made the comment.

Speaker 9 (25:58):
Well, I just try to keep it with in the
city boundaries that right now, since it's gonna get real interesting.
But I hope they like cream corn, macaroni and cheese
and hot dogs. Because he asked some facility up there.
You know, it's not far away.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
That's true. That's true. Prison socks, Bobby, you know, pie holes.
I've I've led to believe that anyway. Bobby personally, I
haven't experienced it, nor do I ever want to. Oh, Bobby,
you crack me up. Man, have a fantastic day. A

(26:34):
woman paid nearly five thousand dollars in compensation after a
group of police officers laughed at her box of sex toys.
Why are you doing that? Essex England Quarter statements from
the Suffolk Police, obtained by BBC officers searching the woman's
home as part of a drug rad that did not
result in any charges. Apparently, the officers moved a pair

(26:58):
of underwear in a drawer vote in jest without any
thought given for the upset. This could cause the owner
close quote revealing a box of sex toys that was
subject to comment and laughter. The officers did not touch
the items, it's reported. Yeah, I think that's probably accurate.

(27:19):
Woman said she felt disrespected. All three officers were reportedly
very young. According to the spokesperson for the Suffolk Police.
It was noted that all the officers involved were very
young in terms of service and still undergoing training. Investigation
deemed that whilst the behavior was not acceptable, it did
not require formal disciplinary action. One of the officers left

(27:42):
the force. Prior to the complaint being received, two officers
who remained in service were required to undertake capital Are
Reflective Capital p Practice. Reflective Practice organization said it really
if you involve reviewing body camera recording with the supervisor

(28:03):
to confront what they did and think about the impact
of their behavior. In addition to written in verbal apologies
from the officer, the woman received four thousand, seven hundred
and twenty six dollars and ninety five cents American as compensation.
There'll be thirty five hundred pounds for those keeping track
at home for the quote unacceptable and unprofessional close quote

(28:23):
behavior demonstrated by the officers. You get five grand because
some guy laughed at a box of sex toys. Oh,
get over it. Five forty five. Oh it is in
the stackus dupe. If you five car cit detalk station,
feel free to call or I'll go back to the

(28:44):
stack of stupid. It'll be right back either way. Fifty
five the talk station. Hey, now, if you have car
ce detalk station, take picture with Jack Adam and Aneton
at seven oh five. Senator John Houston at seven thirty.
I'm sorry, I'm i'ming struggles this morning. Judge Josh Berkerwitz
eight point five, Judge an Upon Tano eight thirty and

(29:05):
John zenz Aer from the Save Hyde Park Square group.
He's going to join the program at the end of
the eight o'clock hour talk about the vote yesterday, saying
we are going to nix that zoning variants in Hyde
Park and full vote is going to take place tomorrow.
It seems like a foregone conclusion. No ballot initiative on
the ballot this fall. Let's go to Louisiana Saint Tammany
Parish where a judge is ordered the return of electronics

(29:27):
belonging to and now X Roman Catholic priest too pleaded
guilty to obscenity after being caught having six with two
dominatrices atop a Pearl River church alter while he was
a member of the clergy. What incident happening back in
twenty twenty I actually think I recall reading about this

(29:48):
after he got busted. Well, the cases come to a conclusion.
Travis Clark X Roman Catholic priests as well as dominatrices
professional names Lady V or vi v I you draw
your own conclusions, also known as satanic satana tricks. What

(30:14):
and the other woman named Empress ming videos in question
under indefinite court seals since they well made national news
in twenty twenty four being caught having sex on the
altar of the church. Clark's attorney, guy named Mark Horner.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Phrasing, said the.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Judge on an executive of authorizing law enforcement officials to
return the cell phones, tablets, computers, gaming consoles, flashterized and
memory cards that they had seized from Clark while he
was under investigation. Horner says he does not believe any
of the sealed videos are on the electronics gaming console Yes, Joe,

(30:57):
Apparently the officials wiped all the data off of the items.
He does not believe his attorney, the dominatrices who ultimately
pleaded guilty to misdemeanors, have ever sought the return of
the electronics sees from them during the case. Yet they
ever did get them back. Officials said, well, they'd wipe
them clean as well. Lawyers declined further comment, but multiple

(31:21):
sources with knowledge of the case say that, among other things,
the video depict a communion wine chalice being urinated in
vidias also depict the ex Roman Catholic priest Clark wearing
a style of underwear typically worn by women, as well
as engaging in a sex act in a dormitory on

(31:43):
the grounds of Sisters Peter and Paul Church, where he
once served as pastor. Clark, Lady V and Empress ming
came under scrutiny after a person walking by the church
peered through the window and saw the three filming themsel
having sex in the sanctuary on the altar. Please shut

(32:04):
up with the church. After being called by the passer by,
who did take a cell phone video of what he
could see. Of course, besides arresting the group, the officers
confiscated stage lights, recording devices, and sex toys. Tinky, I
would say. New Orleans Archbishop Gregory Aman, whose archdiocese had

(32:28):
filed for federal bankruptcy protection months earlier amid the fallout
of a decade's old clergy child molestation scandal, had the
altar burned and consecrated a replacement corner. The attorney previously
maintained the Clark's actions may have get a load of

(32:50):
this may have offended Catholics, but were legal consensual acts
among adults. Nonetheless, the lawyer said, at least for his
client to move on with his life. He pleaded guilty
to obscenity back in twenty twenty two. The women pleaded
guilty the same year for institutional vandalism. Ex Roman Catholic

(33:12):
priest Clark did serve some jail time after he was
found to have violated his probation terms by giving an
interview to a local news outlet where he told the
station that the celibate life which Catholic priests promised to lead,
along with the social distancing practices implemented during the COVID
nineteen pandemic at the time, left him facing quote issues

(33:35):
of loneliness and wanting human interaction closing whatever, But he's
asked listening audience through darkly, what do you do when
you're facing issues of loneliness? Hire a couple of dominatrices
and urinate and a chalice on the church altar? Would

(33:58):
that even be in the top ten answer? On a
Family Feud episode Joe the arithocrat. Lady V gave an
interview October oh to Hustler magazine in which she said
she had been quote invited to film porn close quote

(34:19):
at the location of the church quote. Her statement to
Hustler unfortunately trespassers filmed us without our consent anyway, She
criticized the news media's coverage of the case. Who of
news media alluding to the remarks of somebody else that
the altar sex was demonic. Lady V says, what matters

(34:40):
is that we were consenting adults filming porn in a
private location, but because we were in the Bible Belt
and the building had mythical significance, it was deemed a crime. Okay,
mmmm wow. A lot of assume on that one five

(35:00):
fifty five fifty five KRCE the talk station. F let
to go on to the six o'clock hour. Feel free
to hang out, feel free to call in, love to
have you do that, and we can engage in discourse conversation.
What do you do when you're lonely? I'll be right back.

Speaker 10 (35:16):
Today's tough headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Something always happens when.

Speaker 11 (35:21):
You lease six sec fifty five kr see the talk
station six oh six fifty five krs.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
The talk station Brian Thomas right here asking people to
feel free to call in or inviting people to call
in five point three seven four nine fifty five hundred,
eight hundred and eighty two to three talk foun five
to fifty on AT and T phones. Got an hour
to talk about various topics until we get to the
big picture with Jack add and coming up in an
hour seven oh five with Jack subject. Can't figure it
out from the subject matter, but here it is the

(35:51):
NFL and Network News. It is always brilliant and interesting
what we hear from Jack Advid in my perception anyway,
feel free to listen in and draw your own conclusion.
Senator John Houston returns to the program seven thirty Ohio
community colleges on workforce pelgrants becoming law, Houston joining a
bipartisan bill to return stolen refund checks to American taxpayers

(36:13):
sounds like a good thing. He's been all around Ohio.
Of course, he's running for election, listening to workers, small businesses, educators',
healthcare workers, and we're going to hear what they've had
to say to John. And he earned the Labor Day
endorsement from a union International Union of Operating Engineers. So
congratulations from Local eighteen endorsing Senator Houston. Those are the

(36:36):
topics with John again at seven thirty eight oh five,
couple hours from now, Judge Josh Berkowitz running four. Of course,
Judge on the ballot in November. He's FOP endorsed. So
congratulations Judge Burkowitz, one of the good ones. We get
him on the ballot and get him elected. Judge Nitapolitano,
fed's defending their tortures again. That's his column that's coming

(36:57):
out tonight. I got a copy of it. But also
let me ask you this, because I'm kind of curious
your reaction. We get this US military, I guess ship
blowing up a boat filled with what they are calling
suspected Venezuela and trend di Aragua narco terrorist. Donald Trump
said the boat was filled with drugs out in international waters.

(37:20):
Can we just blow up a boat? I think it's
a straightforward, legitimate question. Can we just go out and
blow up a boat? As I pointed out, if you
had a car full or a truck full of drugs
on US territory, they couldn't just blow you up. Local
law enforcement couldn't launch a rocket at you or chuck

(37:41):
a grenade into it and kill everybody in the van.
That have to write, arrest you and prosecute you and
take you to jail after you were guilt, spent guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't know the rocket ever
comes into the equation. So question for judging anapolitana, do
we have the legal authority or ability to just go
ahead and start blowing people up in boats out in

(38:03):
international waters. Let's assume for the sake of discussion, they did,
in fact have a lot of drugs in the boat.
Are drugs legal in international waters? That's a question I
don't know. Okay. Also, John Zenzer save Hyde Park Square.

(38:24):
John Zinsers may at I may have a lot to
celebrate today since Cincinna City Council's Budget Finance Committee yesterday
unanimously voted to repeal the zoning variants for the Hyde
Park Square project. They're back to square one. The developer
is going to submit a whole new project that will
not include a hotel. Apparently. I'm not sure if they've
dealt with the height limitations, but most of the major

(38:47):
stumbling blocks appear to be being are in the process
of being negotiated right now. But insofar as my friends
in Cincinnati's ability to vote on thumbs up or down
on that, apparently it is not going to be on
the ballot after tomorrow and since they see council formally
backs that reversal. So there's Todd zend or Johnson's are
on that at age forty not even place particularly go.

(39:12):
This is really depressing. There was a new poll Wall
Street General Nork poll about the American Dream. Sixty nine
percent of people think the American Dream no longer holds
true or in the case that some people never believed
it held true, highest level since they started polling on

(39:32):
this topic in nineteen eighty seven. Economics professor Neil Mahoney,
Stanford University, regarding the Wall Street Journal, one of the
superpowers as the country is our relentless optimism is the
fuel for entrepreneurship and other exceptional achievement. That sort of
saddens me. He said. Only twenty five percent think they

(39:54):
have a good chance of improving their standard of living,
which is also a record low ownership coming in around
number one because it's well become less affordable, higher prices, mortgages,
and then there's that pesky reality of taxes and insurance.
Reminding me of a potential ballot initiative we'll have here
in the state of Ohio at some point regarding the

(40:16):
repeal of all property taxes. Saving for retirement another concern
worry for Americans who don't believe they can achieve the
American Agreement. Dream majority thinks they're likely to become even
more problematic for future generations the ability to save a
mere seventeen percent said the US economy surpasses all others

(40:39):
in the world. Thirty nine percent say other nations have
better economies. That's up from twenty four percent who believe
that back in twenty twenty one. See that therein may
lie a marketing problem. I mean, if you believe the
legacy media, in the mainstream media, it sucks here. We're
all irredeemable. We were born of original sin. We are

(41:00):
terrible people, were inherently racist, were completely unfair. Rich, make
too much money, poor too poor, on and on and on.
You know this kind of where it tends to wear
on you after a while. And after about three plus
generations of the leftists continuingly pounding that message and others
suggesting negativity relating to the United States, it's going to

(41:22):
take hold at some point unless there's someone out there
countering the narrative. Sixty percent and total set inflation causing
them major financial strains twenty eight percent or minor thirty two,
which is kind of interesting. They point out that, well,
you know, this is a notable figure because the percentage

(41:43):
of Americans that are complaining about inflation is the same
now as it was in March of twenty twenty three
when they did this poll. Inflation then was nearly double
where it is now. It was five percent around and
right now it's close through about two point seven. So
inflation always generally proceed to be a problem. But they

(42:04):
noted that they call it one curious finding, they said,
is even those earning a sizeable salary own a house
with a little mortgage rate, they have savings, they nonetheless
feel uneasy because they don't think they will be able
to improve their lives any further. Notice my emphasis on
the word improve their lives any further. And that statement,

(42:24):
that assessment from the poll was followed up by one guy.
You know, they interview the guy, and there's a couple
of people who were interviewed, you know, so and so,
you know, Joe Schmoe was asked, well this in this
particular case, Christopher Kischel described as living in Atlanta in
a four bedroom townhouse with his wife and two year

(42:45):
old son. Singular, they did say would like to expand
the family, but he said, we're better off than eighty
to ninety percent of Americans out there, but we'd like
to have our bigger house. Well, and that's kind of
what made me want to bring this up. What is

(43:05):
your perception of the American dream? Why do you think
Christopher Kishel, who has a four bedroom home in Atlanta,
believes he needs a bigger house. Now, we're all in
titled to make our own decisions in life, and I'm
not here to tell you where to spend your money,
but I think quite often we don't contemplate really whether

(43:27):
whatever it is we think we need or think we
want to buy, is really actually going to improve the
quality of our life. You know a bunch of stories
about people get on Amazon binges. You know, they order
things in the middle of the night that's delivered to
the front door. You think it's going to be great,
You get an adrenaline rush that last about five seconds.
Then you end up with something that you well throw
in a drawer or park in a closet because well,

(43:48):
it's just one more thing that you thought you had
to buy. They have a four bedroom home in Atlanta.
They have one child, which I suppose if they're cohabitating.
There's the major bedroom. They don't call it master bedroom anymore.
What do they call it the owner's suite or something

(44:09):
politically correct. But anyway, let's say they live in the
master bedroom. There's one bedroom. They got the other child
living in the second bedroom. That means they have two
more bedrooms left. They can expand their family. Try to
perceive how other people's living the rest of the world lives,
I mean people here in the United States of America
trying to maybe choosing the small house option, the tiny

(44:32):
house option. No, you know, it's got six hundred square feet.
I got a bet, I got a kitchen at, I
got a bathroom, I got a place to clean my
do my laundry. I'm fine. If I need more space,
I'll walk outside. But yeah, what is the American dream anyway?
I just always thought it was freedom, freedom to choose

(44:54):
your own destiny, and I suppose the freedom to believe
you need a much bigger house though you have enough
square footage to deal with your current family and an
expanding family down the road. I don't know. I did
lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and
lots of my friends and people that I've encountered over
the years. You know, I think, well, we're going to
sell the old house and we're gonna buy that brand

(45:16):
new that huge five thousand square foot what are six
thousand square foot? And you know, I just kind of
always scratch my head. It's like, well, wait a minute.
You got to furnish all those rooms. You have to
dust it, clean it, maintain it. It's more square footage
that you have to pay for. It's going to be
a higher assurance bill, it's going to be a higher
energy bill. And your family's not growing and you're done
having kids because you've already mentioned that, why do you

(45:38):
think you need a five bedroom home when you only
have three people? Asking for a friend? Is that the
American Dream six sixteen fifty five kre ce DE talk station, Jay,
I'll looking forward to taking your call. I gotta mention
Zoomer heating and air condition because if you have a home,
you probably have an HVAC system and you want to
properly maintain kept up. That's Zimmer heating and cooling. They're
taking care of people for about eighty years, coming up

(46:01):
on eighty years, and they do have maintenance programs to
extend the life of your current system. They have been
the trusted choice for making Cincinnati area home safe and
comfortable for while again coming up in eighty years. Experts
in HVAC service, installation and a complete range of carrier products.
They invented air conditioning carriers, so if you need to

(46:22):
replace your HVAC system, you need to rely on the
folks at Zimmer. Great customer service, the price is always right.
You don't stay in business eighty years unless you're doing
it right, So book an appointment one of two ways,
calling them directly five to one three, five to one
ninety eight ninety three, five to one ninety eight ninety three.
Online you'll find a bit go Zimmer dot com. This
is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station, our iHeartRadio Music

(46:46):
Festival percent go say someone check on Chuck six twenty
one on a Wednesday. You're gonna go over to the phones.
I always love hearing from you five one three, seven
four nine fifty hundred eight two three Talk Jay, Welcome
back to the program. My friend's always good to hear
from you.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Hey, Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Hey.

Speaker 12 (47:05):
I want to talk a little bit about Senator Houston.
Seems like a nice enough guy. I just don't know
much about him other than that he was lieutenant governor
with Mike de Wine, And as I've mentioned before, I'm
really concerned that if anybody has a history of handing

(47:26):
Shared Brown victories, it's Mike DeWine. Mike DeWine lost his
Senate seat to Shared Brown and then he was in
the Senate representing Ohio for what was it, eighteen long years?
And he seems to cruise around behind the Wine like
a Hyaena, looking for a weakness. And I would if

(47:49):
there's a piece of advice I could give Houston, is
you better grab on to something and get an identity, like,
for instance, why don't you partner up with Rand Paul
because why is there only one senator going after doctor
Fauci and the COVID lockdowns? And the longer that time
goes on, the more likely that there's going to be

(48:10):
zero consequences as usual, Or why don't you partner up
with Thomas Massey and be the sole voice, one voice
in the wilderness that's down in DC. That seems to
be concerned about the Constitution and spending, and I think
he better grab on to something that is very conservative

(48:30):
in nature and get his identity pen to it, because
I'm concerned that he's just another Bob Dole, another Mitt Romney,
that people are not going to be excited to go
to the polls and help this guy. And I'd tell
Bernie Marino same thing. Why is there only Ran Paul
going after this? And why is there only one Thomas Massey.

(48:51):
Why isn't there eight, ten, twelve, fifteen, twenty Republican senators
grouping together to go after some of these things where
it seems like there's one man standing in the gap
to represent our views.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
So but with all that said, maybe I think I.

Speaker 12 (49:09):
Can't say he's not a Democrat, So don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, don't don't throughout the good or reasonable on the sake,
you know, searching for the perfect. I mean, maybe Houston
is not perfect, but he's certainly a damn sight better
than Shared Brown. I mean, we can all agree on
that one. To the extending, to the.

Speaker 12 (49:27):
Extend he's not knowing anything about.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Him right And to the extend he's maybe perhaps crowded
out by the Wine. You know, when you're the governor,
you tend want to dominate the political landscape you're lieutenant governor.
It's like Vice President United States of America, although JD.
Vance is out and about more than any vice president
I can recall. I mean, you know, you do have
your political limitations in any administration, and it's so far
as embracing, specifically coming out embracing Paul and Massey. Those

(49:53):
two guys. As much as I love both of them
and they are consistent with me politically all day long,
they are rather controversial, lightning rod type of people. And
when you're running in a potentially close race, and it
may be given shared Brown's name recognition here in the
state of Ohio, you might not want to cling to
those particular guys.

Speaker 9 (50:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Message wise, you can say I support finding going in
after doctor Fauci for the following reasons, or I'm physically reconservative, responsible,
et cetera, et cetera. You can articulate the same positions
that they echo without saying I'm with Senator Rand Paul
and Congressman Thomas Massey and then run with it that way,
because that may very well become political liability. Again, considering

(50:31):
the lightning rod nature of those two men. So it's policy.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
There's no doubt.

Speaker 13 (50:36):
Yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 12 (50:37):
There's going to be a risk to stand up for
the conservative principles. And that's why that's why there is
only one guy that would be going after Anthony Fauci
in the COVID lockdown. That's why there is only one
guy that pisses Trump off so bad if he wants
to mount the Republican Party, that's saying five trillion dollars
of additional debt isn't a great idea, right, But that's

(51:00):
why those guys get the support that they do because
they're fighting versus staying in the high grass and and
and hiding. So I think that's a well worn path
to losing an upcoming election with somebody with name recognition.
And believe me, Sharon Brown, he's not going to be
afraid to I mean, where was he this past weekend.
He's marching in a picket line down thereon a ge

(51:22):
Aircraft engines u or and so he's not going to
be afraid to be all over the news. So I
think he'sti better break out of the shell and stand
for something and and and pick something and get his
identity pin to it, because we have a long we
have well worn path or Republicans who try to play
it safe and lose back to Bob Dole, Mitt Romney,

(51:44):
the you know, the the plane Vanilla Republican we don't
know much about.

Speaker 14 (51:48):
Just isn't going to get anybody excited.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I'm afraid.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Well. I tend to think considering how red the state
of Ohio has come and how far Trump won had
that even if you it's riding coattails relating to other
elections that I think the odds on favorite is Housted
against shared Brown. Right now, we'll see. May you may
be onto something. I just know that it's a little
difficult in the political environment that he's currently in under

(52:13):
Mike de Wine for him to maybe perhaps break out
of his shell and articulate an alternative theory or you know,
political direction. Anyway, we've got some time between now and
next November to get him short up on some firm message.
We'll see. We'll talk to him again. He's coming up
in the morning show at seven thirty. Fred, you're on
the line. I see that. I want to take your call,
but I am out of time. It's five six twenty six.

(52:35):
We'll get you right out of the gate of funeral
mind holding and that lets me mention. Share Facts credit
Union merged with Emory at share Facts credit Union now
a lot more branches to deal with. And you know what,
you're a member and an owner. You just like to
emphasize with Emory, you know you own a share call
it your bank. Sharefax offers everything from low auto rate
and currently the auto rate loan is zero point six

(52:57):
five percent off the qualified interest. So drive your dream
with share Facts credit Union right now. They take advantage
of that discount rate with online mobile banking, your money's
always at your fingertips. Join the thousands of members of
trust share Facts the album save More, borrows Smarter, and
Plan for the future. Membership open to anyone in Greater Cincinnati,

(53:18):
So visit share facts dot org for more information. Share
facts dot org federally insured by NCUA fifty five KRC
dot com. The Truth Jane nine, First Warning. We the
forecast got a mostly sunny day to day turning a
partly cloudy, a potential for a pop up shower eighty
two for a high overnight fifty nine with overcast skies

(53:42):
seventy The high tomorrow with showers in the morning, which
should be done by around noontime. Fifty two overnight with
a few clouds and a partly cloudy, dry Friday with
a high of eighty one. Right now sixty one degree.

Speaker 15 (53:53):
It's time for traffic Flome the US Health Triumphing Center.

Speaker 16 (53:57):
At UC Health, you'll find comprehensive care that's so personally
make sure best tomorrow possible. That's boundless care for better outcomes.
Expect more at ucehelp dot com. Highway traffick not all
that bad, including getting passed one's left of a wreck. Well,
let's spend two seventy five after you get past Madison Pike.

Speaker 15 (54:17):
Northbound seventy five no delay through.

Speaker 16 (54:19):
The cut hands of yet. Chuck Ingram on fifty five
KRC Deep Talk.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Station six thirty one, fifty five KRC Detalk Station. We
forget one week from today. Listener lunch gonna be Inneston
Pub and girl over to the phones we go. I
got several callers online. Love hearing for the listeners. Fred's up, Fred,
thanks for holding over the break man. Hey, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Hey Brian, what's up?

Speaker 17 (54:47):
You were talking about the Does the president have the
power to blow up a drug vote in Venezuela.

Speaker 13 (54:53):
And that's a small part.

Speaker 17 (54:54):
Of a larger thing that I really like about the
Trump presidency. Everything that he does, the Democrats take it
to court and eventually it's going to go all this
is going to go to Supreme Court, and we're going
to find out exactly what power the president, the office
of the president has. Yeah, and over time, I mean,

(55:16):
and to be honest with you, because you've talked about
you don't like executive orders, I'm with you. We're going
to find out exactly how much power that the presidency
has with all these decisions didn come come down the line.
But the other thing I look at it from the
standpoint I think Democrats who love executive orders are shooting

(55:37):
themselves in the foot by bringing all these to court
because at some point they're going to get back in
and the president is going to be set and their
guy is not.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Going to be able to do that.

Speaker 17 (55:48):
And you can talk to the judge about I mean,
because he's all about the judge. Napolitano is all about
each Each part of the government has certain powers.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
And nobody else has those right.

Speaker 17 (56:01):
And I think it's an interesting thing that's happening because
Trump wins some of these, he loses some of these.
But we're finding out what actually could happen.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Right, that's a great point, Fred, All these isn't an
interesting thing. Here we are in twenty twenty five, and
most of these questions are new to the Supreme Court.
These have never been brought up and litigated in a
court of law, US District Court, Apella Court, Supreme Court.
They're all hearing them, they're all chining in on them.
You know, we just had this decision the other day
about the Posse Comittatis Act. How much thorty does president

(56:35):
have to send in troops any given city. Yeah, we'll
have a cleaner playing field, we'll have a rule book
that we'll all be able to play by. And you
know what if Trump scores victories, and those victories will
inure to whatever Democrat president might take the office down
the road, should he or she choose to use them.
But yeah, I like that viewpoint of it, Fred, I
really do. Yeah. Clarity is always a nice thing, it

(56:58):
really is.

Speaker 17 (56:58):
And the other thing, you know, the first Trump presidency,
fortunately he got the court to a I call it
a five to three to one court maybe it's a
six a six three. But but the thing is is
that came in and we you know, the Chevron deference
decision and a bunch of these other things.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, about about.

Speaker 17 (57:19):
These agencies, which I'm a big fan of, reigning in the.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Power of these agencies to do this kind of stuff.

Speaker 17 (57:27):
And you know, any decision can take the court about
the power of the EPA any of these agencies is
probably good to define, like you said, clarity of what
can and can't.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Be done, exactly who you can fire Legitimately, it's kind
nobody's ever asked a question before it's now being litigated,
how much power and scope and authority of the regulatory
agencies behind the scenes have to interpret any given law. Well,
we've got a major questions doctrine problem resolved in large part. No,
you can't just randomly do whatever the hell you want.
If it's outside the guideline specifically identified by Congress and

(58:04):
whatever piece of legislation has been passed, you can't do it.
Awesome clarity on that one. So, yes, we have some
terrific developments in the law, some wins, some losses, but
all of it provides further clarity for us as we
move forward. Keep in mind, as we talk about this,
part of the Democratic Party platform is so I've come
to understand it is packing the court, and I find

(58:26):
that probably to be the most offensive thing. We can't win.
We did not win. We do not have what we want,
which are judicial activists trampling on the constitution. So what
are we going to do when we get in power.
We're going to find those left wing liberal activist judges
and we are going to put them on the bench
and they will overwhelm the more conservative, constitutionally based majority.

(58:48):
That's scary stuff. So yes, it could change, but at
least we have a legal playing field that's been set.
The stage has been set. We've got very clear identified
parameters of different agencies and what the executive branch can
and cannot do. We're in a better place for all that,
whether or not any given victory or loss. Six thirty five.
Thanks man, We sayee Jim, you gotta hold on your

(59:11):
next inn, Tom, hold on please, I'll be taking your
calls as soon as we get back. Man, I can
steer you toward odo exit. Get rid of stench. If
everything except politics, mold, mildews, smoke, skunk spray, human odors,
pad odors, every odor that you can think of, an
odor exit product will eliminate it. One hundred percent satisfaction guarantee.

(59:31):
I mean, come on, you gotta stink and you can't
get rid of it. Listen, you're not out any money
if it doesn't work. Just use the products as directed.
They will deliver on getting rid of the odor, or
you're not out any money. To learn more about the products,
which product you should buy, which is easy to figure
out all the information, and a place to order it
probably end up on your porch tomorrow if you order

(59:53):
it before, say around two o'clock this afternoon. No guarantee
on that, but it's very quick delivery to your home.
Or buy it locally. There's a search engine on website
odor exit dot com, od O, r XIT, noeodor exit
dot com. Get some today. Fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 15 (01:00:11):
Who are the people that serve part time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
At Jennine Weather or mostly Sunday skies turning partly cloudy,
Maybe a pop up shower. Eighty two for the high
UH overcast tonight, fifty nine for the low high have
just seventy tomorrow with the cold front coming in. Showers
in the morning should be gone by around noon. A
few clouds over night fifty two, and I have eighty
one with partly cloudy skies and dry conditions on Friday sixty.
Right now it's time for traffic, Bromb.

Speaker 16 (01:00:35):
You see up Tramfic Center at you see health Go
find comprehensive care. That's some personal makes your best tomorrow possible.
That's boundless care for better outcome, so expect more.

Speaker 15 (01:00:43):
And you see health dot com.

Speaker 16 (01:00:45):
Westbound two seventy five getting heavy again between Madison Pike
and the earlier accident beformed Turkey Foot elsewhere northbound seventy
five starting to build dans Kyles in Bend seventy four
looks good. Chuck ingramon fifty fine KRC talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Six forty if you buy KERSD talk station the Big
Picture with Jack Allen and at the top of the
hour news meantime. Over to the phones we go. Thank
you so much for holding with Saie. Jim, Tom hold
on your next. Good to hear from you, Jim.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 18 (01:01:17):
I like to talk about the fundraiser, but first of all,
I know you talked to Christopher.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Just a little bit.

Speaker 18 (01:01:22):
About Christopher Smith and of course about the Executive Committee
not endorsing him because of being an independent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And yeah, the Republic again.

Speaker 18 (01:01:32):
Correct, I'm a member of that committee and I didn't
bring him up. I thought about it, but I've done
this before, and I look around the room and it's
the same people. There was six sixty of us in
there out of one hundred and forty or so, and
I know I would have been shot down again because
the people in that room, a lot of them are
just the jeez, I hate to say it, but the

(01:01:54):
archaic at best, because they look at it and if
you don't have an R in front of your name,
they think, well, you're not good enough, or I shouldn't
probably say that, or you shouldn't be on there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
And I'm totally against that.

Speaker 18 (01:02:06):
Because even last night, getting into the fundraiser they were
taking there was a photographer there, a professional photographer, taking
endorsements and filming it. And of course I was one
of the first ones to do it. And of course
I endorsed Christopher Smitherman on a personal basis, and I

(01:02:27):
think it's time that we have to wake up and
we're never going to get ahead if you just look
at something like that and for an exception, of course,
is Christopher Smitherman to be on that well to get
the endorsement because it means thousands of votes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Well or Steve or Steve Gooden, who's a charter right, correct?
I meant if Steve Gooden put an R after his name,
would anyone object to endorsing him?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
No, the guy, I mean, he's right on the issues.
So he's got to see after his name, I suppose. So, no,
we're not going to do she was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
A Republican, was Republican Brian so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
But he doesn't have an R after his name on
the ballot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
No, And it's a field race.

Speaker 18 (01:03:08):
So Christopher's gonna hopefully, especially after last night when I
looked around that room when the speakers, when it started.
You've been to Jim and Jack several times. It was
probably three quarters of the place was filled with people
that endorsed him, people that came down to support him.

(01:03:28):
There was speakers like Ken Kober. David Mann actually brought
his wife, Corey Bowman, with his whole entourage of family
member in footing the baby who slept through the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
So that's that's kind of that's kind of nice.

Speaker 18 (01:03:44):
But one of his key speakers was Holly the course
everybody knows her from the lady that got knocked out
from the beatdown that he should have probably she addressed
that very very well. But by that, I'm going to
say it through fall Parks made that statement that she
deserved it and that you wanted it and everything else.

(01:04:06):
But Christopher put on a really good show. I mean,
the show's probably a bad word, but he h It
was a nice buffet if you wanted to get the
particulars on it. And he presented itself well like he
always does, very professional.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
It was.

Speaker 18 (01:04:23):
It was resounding taking it, a lot of ovations and
so forth, and ken Kober explained why Christopher got the
denomination for the FOP is because of of course crime
and everything like that, and they want to change in
City Hall.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
I don't know, it's got to be more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Than just Christopher. I'm sorry to say that.

Speaker 18 (01:04:46):
It's got to be like you said, it's got to
be Steve Gooden, and it's got to be other people
like that, like Lynda Matthews and and so forth. But
it was a good turnout and people will I guess,
were donating and the line was out the door when
you first came in to sign it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
That's good.

Speaker 18 (01:05:04):
They were taking donations, of course, and they were given
out yard signs, t shirts, the same usual jargon that
you get at an event like this. But it turned
out really well. And I was kind of skeptical being
that it's during rush hour down River Road from five.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
To seven thirty. Yeah, it was constant. Yeah, it was nice.
It was nice. Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I'm glad to hear that. I'm sorry I couldn't make it,
but Christopher definitely beginning a campaign contribution from the Thomas
family and that can only encourage my listeners to help
him all out for the campaign as well. And of
course some of the other candidates you mentioned, Jim is
certainly worthy of a little campaign contribution or a yard
sign or a T shirt. Got to help these folks
out lose keating him, and it.

Speaker 18 (01:05:50):
Was it was very productive, Let's just put it that way.
If I had to judge and put the words behind it, yes,
it was very productive. And Christopher doesn't come across strictly
as anendent. He does have a background of being a
Republican in values and the way he comes across in
his core principles ogus. I just wish we would get
as an executive committee get past this thing that you

(01:06:13):
can't endorse something like that. In the years past, we
got pasted the idea of endorsing in a primary for
Chris Monzel, So why not change this time and endorse
Christopher Smitherman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I couldn't agree more. Jim couldn't agree more. This is
an issue that's come up quite a few times over
the years, and I just don't understand it. Jim, thank
you so much. I appreciate you showing up for Christopher
and support and also providing the update and report on
last night's fundraiser. You're good man, brother. Well talk soon, Tom.
I don't hope you don't mind you're going to have
to hold. I'll be more than pleased to take your call,
but at the risk of getting the Harry Eyeball can't

(01:06:48):
do it right now. Jess Tracker might call me out
on it because it is six forty six. Get you
next after USA intulation Premium foam and the extery walls
of your home will save you money, make your house
more comfortable guarantee. Both of those are guaranteed saving money.
If you're using an HVAC system, it won't run as hard.
A matter of fact, it'll make your system lasts longer
because it's not fighting the uphill battle that an under

(01:07:10):
or uninsulated home presents as far as a challenge is concerned.
So that's a side benefit, but the primary benefits are
comfort and savings. Pay for the walls in the exterior
exterior walls with the phone free attic insulation, and that
only lasts till the middle of this month. Got to
get that appointment in and take advantage of the free
attic insulation, so high star value phone in the market.

(01:07:31):
In the exterior walls of your home, you could be
under insulated. Find out if you are. Call for the
free inspection. If you know you don't have any insulation
in there, or perhaps you already know you are under insulated,
call them. Get the free quote, take advantage of it
ninety nine dollars a month interest free, and if you
act quickly, you'll get the free attic insulation and you
will get the twelve hundred dollars energy tax credit when

(01:07:52):
you're doing your taxes next year, doing well, paying you
to do something you should do. It's the ultimate no brainer.
USA insulation, dot net USA installation dot net five one
three three eight one three six two six three eight one.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
FOAM fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Six fifty coming up at six fifty one fifty five
KAR City Talk Station. Gott to go over to the phones.
Tom was kind enough to hold over the break there. Tom,
thanks so much for holding a Welcome to the morning.

Speaker 8 (01:08:16):
Show, Morning Brian. Earlier in the hour, you were talking
about the American dream. Yeah, I always thought the American
dream was not a bigger house, but rather than the
opportunity to better provide for your family and you know,
having your children be better educated, better jobs, better opportunities,

(01:08:39):
and when the government gets involved in things, you know,
Reagan said it fast. You know what's the worst words
you can ever hear. I'm here from the federal government,
here to help, right, right right. And you look at
what it costs students to go to universities these days
since the federal government took over the student loan program.

(01:09:01):
You look at the unmitigated reckless spending that the federal
government has taken on the last twenty five thirty years,
trillions upon trillions of dollars in debt. It create type
you know, inflation that you have to make twice what

(01:09:22):
you made fifteen years ago to be at the same level.
So getting rid of a fiat banking system and going
to a better goldbacked system like we once had, you
don't have the problems with inflation the same way. It
gives people the opportunities and getting rid of the federal government.

(01:09:49):
Used to be people went to the federal government for
better benefits and consistent employment. Now people go to the
federal government because they make more money than people in
the private sector do for the same jobs. And that's
absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Yeah, and that's changed in my lifetime. I mean, you
saw it on full display with the you know, like
the cylinder loans or gifts. I when you give hundreds
and hundreds of taxpayer dollars and millions of taxpayer dollars
to some what I would call friend of government, some
well connected company. Of all the energy companies in the world,

(01:10:28):
how is it that that one in particular got all
those millions and millions of dollars. Well, because they got
friends in high places, they have lobbyists, and you know, yeah,
it's artificial seating. And to your point, Tom, what do
you think the world would look like, what do you
think our expectations would be if the federal government didn't
and had not infused thirty seven trillion and growing dollars

(01:10:50):
into the economy. Of course, that's fake money, right, they
printed it up. We didn't have this.

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
It's completely fake money. And whoever finally steps forward and
says that the emperor does have no clothes, it's going
to collapse the entire system.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Yeah, and it's well that listen, Tom, that maybe what's
happening right now with Jjenping and Vladimir Putin and uh
and and Mondi or Mandi from India getting together. They're
they're they're joining at the hip, and they may create
their own currency, fiat currency. They may reject the US
dollar in the future. They may no longer provide us

(01:11:27):
with money in the form of loans by buying bonds.
They could isolate us, much in the same way Trump's
trying to isolate other company countries with with sanctions.

Speaker 8 (01:11:35):
You know, well, do you remember when the Arab springs
all happened at the same time, Sure, you know, and
they tried to tell us that they were just naturally occurring. Kadaffi,
who was out of power in Livy at that time
said if the quantity of easy the United States was doing,

(01:11:56):
they couldn't afford grain because the dollar was dropping and value.
So all the countries that had Arab uprisings were countries
that were in serious negotiations to create a new gold
based dinari. And what happened. The Brits go into Libya,

(01:12:20):
there's war in Tunisia, same with Egypt, and all of
a sudden that goes away because it would destroy the
petro dollar. And Libya was a very wealthy nation with
a ton of gold reserves. They've lost that gold. Where'd
it go? Who stole it? So the whole system is

(01:12:46):
based on this, and the American people and the world
for that matter, can't compete with a fiat currency system
and with all the regulatory agencies, as your caller mentioned previously,
with the Supreme Court Court decision ringing some of this stuff.
Back in getting back to less government, libertarian views and

(01:13:09):
the views that our founders had, those are the things
that are going to enable people to have the American
dream of a better life for their loved ones. You know,
we're living in an age now where children, for the
first time ever have less expectation of a better lifestyle,
less length of health of age because of health, you know,

(01:13:36):
between cancers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Obesity, Yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 8 (01:13:42):
And why is it you go to countries that don't
have genetically modified foods and you don't have the obesity problems.
Why is it the Vietnam before they started vaccinating all
their kids had no wat kids. When you look at
all the different stuff that goes on between major corporations

(01:14:03):
and the banks and the governments, we have some serious problems.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, outlined a whole bunch of them. Tom
a lot to unpack on that. But I'm looking at
the clock coming up in six fifty seven. I've already
got the warning from Streker we're out of time. Appreciate it.
My friend Jack avid In and the big Picture coming
up next. I hope you can stick around.

Speaker 10 (01:14:21):
Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Hour because the news changes. Fifty five KRC the talk station.
This report he is sponsored just sha I have seven

(01:14:45):
six here at fifty five Garrised Talk station. What a
great day of the week. We tuned into the fifty
five Garris Morning Show because it's Wednesday and it's seven
oh six and it's time for the Big Picture with
Jack Aviid and Jack my friend, welcome back to the
Morning show. It's always a distinct pleasure to have you
on the program. Thanks, Bal.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
I feel great to be back and starting tomorrow night,
to have the NFL beack, including for at least one
more season the Bengals Trey Hendrickson. That guy has more
sacks than Whitecastle. So maybe if the rest of the
defense steps up, Joe and the offense won't have to
score fifty points every week. We always watch the home team,

(01:15:25):
but it's getting more expensive, Brian to follow other teams.
That's because the old line TV networks are showing fewer
and fewer games streaming services they're now outbidding ABC, CBS,
NBC and Fox, and I think that's interesting not just
for football fans, but for folks who watch TV news

(01:15:47):
because as a result of losing football, broadcast news could
disappear too, and it's their own fault. A little history
shows why when network TV to go off after Second
World War, its first stars like Jack Benny and Milton
Burrell were established radio stars and apart from World War

(01:16:09):
two updates, well, I'm still so inspired by the great
Edward R. Murrow on rooftops during the Blitz, reporting this
is London. Apart from that, Brian, even radio networks in
the nineteen forties didn't pay that much attention to news.
They didn't have to. Everybody read newspapers. Broadcast news was

(01:16:32):
more of a public service, required to maintain your federal license. Then,
in nineteen forty eight, CBS Television added a fifteen minute
nightly news show its first anchor. And if people in
the audience can remember this, they are old Douglas Edwardsuck

(01:16:53):
didn't make anything like the money that NBC paid Milton
Burrow to dress up like a woman. Yes, folks, back
then parents had to explain to little Johnny that Uncle
Melty was not a woman. Today you could get canceled
for saying he wasn't a real woman. But that's another topic.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Fortullly, Uncle Milty never professed to be a real woman.
I hope.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Not Getting back to news. In nineteen sixty three, things
changed tragically. Record breaking audiences tuned in to watch TV
news coverage of President Kennedy's assassination. They stayed to follow
the Vietnam War brought straight into your living room on

(01:17:36):
the only TV set. Most of us had a twenty
three inch black and white set. Entire families like mine
gathered around it like an electronic hearth, unlike today, when
digital devices isolate kits from everybody. In the nineteen sixties,
trusted anchors like Walter Cronkite and Huntley and Brinkley became stars.

(01:18:00):
Their coverage leaned somewhat to the left. No network licenses
had ever been granted by the government and conservative owners. Still,
we didn't find out that Walter Cronkite was an outspoken
liberal until after he retired and wrote a book on
the air. When the most trusted man in America told
us every night, that's the way it is, it usually

(01:18:22):
was even more than Kronkite's Evening News sixty Minutes also
became a money maker for CBS, drawing more than twenty
five million viewers when the country was much smaller. Because,
as with the Evening News, sixty Minutes started out as
real journalism, unbiased, truthful. Yet, as we always know, Brian,

(01:18:45):
whether we're talking about government or big business, universities, even
science power corrupts. Institutions that relied on objective facts to
build a nonpartisan audience have been captured by a pushing
their own agendas. By the nineteen nineties, conservatives realized we

(01:19:05):
were being ignored, if not viciously attacked, by mainstream left
wing media. Rush Limbaugh tried filling the void on AM
radio and the Fox News Channel. Thanks to the freedom
of cable, which is not federally licensed, Fox claimed to
present fair and balanced news. Now, in truth, Fox leaned

(01:19:26):
to the right, but at least it balanced out which
you saw on the networks today. As the nonpartisan Pew
Research Center has found for years, all three old line
TV networks, ABC, CBS, NBC relentlessly attack conservatives while propping
up leftists. And that's cost the networks more than half

(01:19:49):
their audience. So why doesn't the Federal Communications Commission step in? Supposedly,
the SEC requires, and I quote from one of their documents,
as public trustees, broadcast licensees may not intentionally distort the news.
Rigging or slanting the news is a most heinous act.

(01:20:11):
The SEC goes on to say, it's against the public
interest end quote. And that's why President Trump is now
suggesting that these networks lose their federal licenses. Meantime, since
their news is Democrat propaganda and Besides that, the best
entertainment program is now on cable and streaming platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Why do we.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Tune into the networks at all? Right, Well, as an
old baseball announcer Ronald Reagan might have explained, the chief
reason most of us still watch those networks is sports. However, increasingly,
the old line networks are now being outbid for the
most popular sport NFL football. For instance, if you're planning

(01:20:57):
to watch the NFL this Christmas Day, after the kids
have opened their presence and everybody else is snoring off
their turkey, forget about the networks. Either subscribe to Netflix
or head to a bar. The bottom line, Brian networks
that originally garnered huge audiences broadcasting unbiased journalism then let

(01:21:19):
ideology get in the way. Just as Cracker Barrel and
Miller Lte, they saw the light before it was too late.
Maybe Mike Brown waited too long to re sign Trey
hendricksending this Dole training camp in the preseason. But at
least we now have a Super Bowl contender, and this
season anyway, the Super Bowl will still be available to

(01:21:40):
everybody on Network TV. Maybe Network TV will see the
light too, And what do you say, sports fan?

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Booh boy. A stream of consciousness notes as I was
jotting it down. First off, you had mentioned the digital
environment we live in right now creates this isolationism. Was
noe can deny you your little miniature device. You sit
in a chair by yourself, or even at a table
full of people. Everybody's got their devices. There's no interaction.
And at least I'm old enough to remember a time

(01:22:09):
when you only had the big three networks NBCCBS, ABC.
You watch the news, maybe your local news, but you
did watch it in the room with the TV with
everyone else, and provided an opportunity for discourse. You know,
a story would come up and you would talk about it.
That doesn't happen when you're staring at your device. You
don't engage in some sort of communication. This was an opportunity.
My dad always used to interject his political philosophy and

(01:22:32):
that and dinner time conversation, which I don't know that
anybody does anymore, So I miss that. But pivoting over,
do we not in spite of the challenges and faces?
Do we not live in a better time now that
we do have competition? I mean, I was thinking about
the idea of licensure the FCC, you must do this,
that you must provide news in an unbiased any of
all the rules that go along with getting a license, Jack,

(01:22:55):
I can go on set up my own web page
right now and say whatever the hell I damn well, please,
I am effect. I can be a reporter. All I
need to do is show up at some event and
jot down notes based upon what I'm seeing and report
about that event. How am I any different from somebody
who went and got a journalism degree? No offense, But
do you really need a journalism degree to be a

(01:23:16):
reporter and report of the news? And do you need
a federal license to do that? I think the Internet
says no, you don't. So you know, we've get this
alternative viewpoint out there in large quantities, unlike the old
days of the Big Three. To that point, how much
blank and power did Walter Cronkite have? He was the most,

(01:23:39):
he was reputable. I've already listened to Uncle Walt Cronkite.
I mean, he was the one that effectively ended the
Vietnam War. If we lost Walter Cronkite, we've lost America.
Isn't that something that everybody kind of said for what Yeah,
for one man to wield that much power because he's
the guys with the talking head on television. How much
editorial power did Walter Kronk I have. I'm not running

(01:24:01):
that story. I only have a half hour. You're gonna
get a couple of minutes here, you're gonna get a
minute on that topic. I've got nine thousand topics to
go over. I'm limiting it to the following. I'm picking
these so he controlled the narrative about what America consumed
and digested. I mean, youst have to watch the McNeil
layr News report to get anything substantive about what's going
on in Washington, TC behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
And we did. I missed that show when it was
good not you know, I hate to think your listeners
have been staring at their devices while I drone on
and do bad impressions. Anyway, And it's not just the news, Brian.
Extreme polarization has made us lose faith in all kinds

(01:24:44):
of institutions. Yes, courts, Congress. Nobody seems to be able
to work together to compromise. As you were saying before
to a listener, you know, you can't make the perfect
the enemy of the good and give the whole story away.
But this has happened before, and it's not just the Democrats.
During the guilded Age, big money Republicans rigged the banking

(01:25:05):
system and it collapsed. During the Great Depression that followed,
New Deal Democrats understandably steered the country towards socialism. World
War two brought us together, not just because of that, Murow,
I mean, we wanted to win that war. World War two,
and the prosperity that followed that brought us together. Now
I just hope it will take another catastrophe to make

(01:25:28):
us realize this great country is about capitalism, the sea word.
You're allowed to say, yes, capitalism and opportunity, free markets,
not nanny state socialism. If voters in New York City
don't realize that soon and instead elect Mamdani the Kami,

(01:25:49):
it may be curtains for Old Broadway.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Yeah, but you know what, Jack, and it looks more
and more like almost a foregone conclusion. And I kind
of scratched my head over that, because he's gonna win.
Look at this, in the voting method we have in
New York, Mom Dommy's gonna win fine, And there's a
lot of dire predictions connected with him winning if his
policies go through, the question of affordability jumps to everyone's mind.

(01:26:13):
But Jack, if it's the end of Broadway because mom
Dommy becomes mayor the place goes to hell in a
handbasket based upon his ridiculous communist leaning propositions and proposals,
isn't that a good thing? Isn't that a lesson for America?
Isn't that a cautionary tale for the rest of us
because it shouldn't take that much time if he really
does implement the policies he's talking about implementing. I think

(01:26:36):
the financial and and and collapse if for no other
reason than profitable businesses with the flexibility to pack their
bags and move out in the face of insane taxation rates.
I think the demise of New York City might be
pretty rapid and we can all learn something from it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Yes, you're right, Life will go on. Life will go on.
You know, if we've up the world with nuclear weapons
and we only have cockroaches, it'll be good for the cockroaches.
But we can only lose so many cities. And this
is the financial capital of the world. Yeah, before we
realize that it's not such a good thing. We can
only learn so many lessons. That's why Donald Trump got

(01:27:19):
elected again. Joe Biden was a disaster. So we have
Trump for four years. Right, the Democrats get back in power,
that'll be a huge lesson. Can we recover constantly?

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Yeah, and maybe we'll be able to point to Mom
Dommi's former New York City and say, no, we can't
survive this. Look what happens when you do it. And
I'm going to disagree with you, and we lose that
stuff because New York City went dead. It's not because
the business has disappeared. It's just that they moved to
some other state where it's easier to do business, meaning
they continue to generate profit, they can continue to employ

(01:27:53):
and pay into the taxation system. They just don't do
it an outrageously overregulated, heavy taxation city. So anyhow, well.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
I still hope that Wall Street will move to my town, Middletown.
That would be something I could use a few more skyscrapers.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Let's start the campaign move Wall Street to Middletown. Big
picture with Jack Evan. I love having you on this show. Jack.
I enjoyed these conversations. I love your analysis and I'll
look forward to next Wednesday already and best the health
will love to you and your better half. Thanks so much, Brian,
take care of my friend coming up at seven to twenty.
If you have have Garre see the Detox station, Jimmy Care,
fireplace and stove. Don't let your house burn down. You

(01:28:32):
don't want your house to burn down. You got an
insurance policy, don't rebuild it. But if you can avoid it,
you want to go through the hassle of all that
no no one does. So don't let your house burn
down because you didn't have your chimney inspected woodburners out there.
Whatever kind of wood burning device you've got, whether it's
a regular fireplace, a free standing stove, self feeding wood
wastepellt stove, it burns wood, It puts off particulate creosote

(01:28:54):
and other stuff that sticks to the lining of your chimney.
It becomes a flammable build up, means the chimney catches
on fire. Chimney fires will bring a house down, not always,
but they can. So I say take advantage of these
special going on right now. Chimneycare, fireplace and stove A
plus of the better business Burea locally in anoperated since
nineteen eighty eight, they are offering a special peace of

(01:29:16):
mind can be had for just one hundred and sixty
nine dollars in ninety nine cents. Certified chimney sweep comes
out to your place. Video camera inspects your chimney, make
sure there's no damage in there are other problems going on.
Gets an assessment of the amount of build up, sweeps
it thoroughly so you're safe and you will not have
a chimney fire. Means you got peace of mind. Temperatures
are already dropping, you know at the date is coming
soon when you're gonna want to light a fire, So

(01:29:38):
do it knowing that it's safe. Only one sixty nine
ninety nine plus tax. Chimneycareco dot com. You can schedule
the appointment at the website. Learn more about the showroom
and the other services they offer chimneycarec dot com or
call them five one three two four eight ninety six hundred.
That's five one three two four eight ninety six.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Hundred fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
I'm seven thirty here fifty five KR Seed Talk Station.
A very happy Wednesday to you, Brian Thomas. You're happy
to welcome back to the fifty five Caresey Morning Show.
Let me count the ways, how many reasons he is
better than his challenger, Senator John Houston. Of course, going
to be on the ballot next November, get pivotal election.

(01:30:19):
Welcome back to the program. John, It's always a pleasure
having you on the show.

Speaker 19 (01:30:22):
Brian, great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
We're really gunning for you. I have every confidence in
the world you can beat Shared Brown on a multitude
of reasons, not the least of which is the guy
is way too crazy far left. So let us talk
about your bit. You've been out and about listening to workers,
small businesses, educators, healthcare workers, you know, fanning out across
Ohio as you campaign for the seat. What are you

(01:30:46):
hearing from folks. What are the primary concerns being expressed
to you, John Houston?

Speaker 19 (01:30:51):
Well, I think it's always the economy. People want to
make sure that we're fighting it back against inflation, you know,
the Joe Biden inflation that was created. Lay on the
top of people's list making sure that the economy is strong.
But you know what's emerging a little bit is in
certain areas is crime. People are concerned about growing amount
of crime in our in our in our state, and

(01:31:13):
in our communities in our nation. But you know, it's
always about the economy. It's helping make sure people have
the right kind of skills, that they're getting good pay,
that the economy is growing so they're a ample number
of jobs, and and that we're pushing back against you know,
our foreign competitors like China, who have stolen those jobs
over the years and undermined, you know, basically the global economy.

(01:31:35):
And and you know they're they're happy that President Trump's
fighting back.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Yeah, I think most of us are. And I saw
the US manufacturing recorded at strongest pace of growth in
more than three years in augustcored to S and P Global.
That's positive economic news. There is a lot of positive
economic news out there. But what is concerning when you
you mentioned Jijinping, China, China, India and Russia all getting together,
the three leaders getting together enjoying some smiles and laughs

(01:32:03):
and handshaking, you have any concern more broadly down the
road that the unification of those three countries the largest
by way of population. I mean, we're all very worried
out here. The unwashed mass is about our fiat currency.
We're all worried about thirty seven trillion dollars in debt
and the debt service that keeps growing on that somewhere
out in the world, it wouldn't shock me that they

(01:32:23):
people might wake up and say, you know what, there
has to be a better alternative to the fiat currency
of the United States of America.

Speaker 19 (01:32:29):
John Well that Look, that's why we've passed some of
these bills related to crypto, so that people who have
concerns have the ability to transact in different ways. There's
no doubt about that. But also the situation with China, India, Russia. Look,
I can tell you that people around the world are

(01:32:51):
very scared. European powers are scared of the fact that
Putin could turn on them, just like you did on Ukraine.
And I will I will tell you that when we
buy from China, when we buy from Russia, we're financing
that war. We're financing those you know, in some cases,
evil deeds, evil empires, evil leaders who want to you

(01:33:15):
know that want to want to you know, they don't
want to just compete with America, they want to defeat America.
That's what we need to understand in our mentality, and
I think the things have gone wrong with India right
now is because they want to continue to buy oil
from Russia. They want to continue to finance a war
in Europe, and this is a this is a critical time,

(01:33:36):
there's no this is a tough time in global h economic,
military history in terms of how we need to make
sure that America is positioning in itself economically militarily to
be strong for the future.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
I guess ultimate does it benefit us to cut off
ties with those countries. I mean again we're talking about
is it just really Russia Ukraine. I don't think Ukraine
really has any impact on our domestic security. It's my
personal opinion anyway. But India, I mean the old adage
the fool is the one that's not looking up for
his or her own best interest. India needs the oil,
they need the energy supply, and it's the cheapest place

(01:34:16):
to get it. They don't have any stake in the
action with Russia and Ukraine.

Speaker 19 (01:34:21):
Look, I can tell you this if you India right
now is this is what the fight is about, is
that they are continuing to finance the war, and I
think the president wants to have peace. It doesn't mean
that we have to pick sides. We can be a
fair arbiter in that discussion. But China wants to see

(01:34:43):
the war perpetuated. They love it when America and Europe
are occupied with Russia. They can go ahead and put
more money in their coffers, build a bigger military, built
economic superiority, which is their goal, and we just have
to go eyes wide open. I'm not suggesting that we
can completely decouple from India and China. I'm not suggesting

(01:35:05):
that at all. I just think that where our strategic
interests are at hand, we need to make those things
in America for our economic and national security. That's where
I'm That's where I'm really focused with my thoughts on
this right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
And I've view Chinese Communist parties a much much bigger
threat than anybody else in the world. Yet here we
are going on and on and on supporting the Chinese
Communist Party and their military build up and the inevitable
takeover of Taiwan by continuing to buy all of their
green products, solar panels, windmills, the component products, all of
our pharmaceuticals, on and on and on. So we're doing,

(01:35:37):
in essence what India is doing in supporting Russia. That
helps Russia's effort with the roar. We're helping the Chinese
communist parties effort well attack us in effect monetarily.

Speaker 19 (01:35:47):
Well, we're I think that you know, in my opinion,
that we're decoupling from that with some of our trade policies.
The America First Agenda is about making things in America.
The tariffs are about, hey, let's not let China sell
into our market. Let's level the playing field, Let's have
fair trade that's allow more of these products to be

(01:36:07):
made in America or with American allies. Those are the
things that we need to do to bring back the
critical elements of our like everything that's important, like making
computer chips high on the list of things need to
be made in America. Our pharmaceutical supply chain that needs
to be made in America. Every single thing that's essential

(01:36:29):
for our war fighting capabilities that needs to be made
in America. Those things need to be decoupled from China
and people who are not friends of us. And that's
where I think we're going with this economy right now,
where the President wants to lead all.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Right, well, pivoting over I see you join to biopartisan
build to return stolen refund checks to American taxpayers. That
sounds like a good thing. What's this one all about,
John Well?

Speaker 19 (01:36:55):
A lot of times when we make it hard for
Americans to get back their money from the irs, and
we want to make it easier to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
We have a problem just all of these little things.

Speaker 19 (01:37:04):
Right, I'm discovering all of these things about the federal government.
You know, like I knew a little bit about how
difficult it is, but my goodness, this thing is so
big and so hard to get for the average citizen
to get to get action from. This is one of
the things we try to do in my Senate office
is fight on behalf of Ohioan's who can't get the
federal government to act. And this is just one more.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Way to do it, one more way to do it.
And I understand you got another endorsement. International Union of
Operating Engineers Local eighteen scoring a union endorsement.

Speaker 19 (01:37:36):
Yeah, it's our second union endorsement in a week. These
are the folks who pave our roads, build our bridges,
things like that. They're working people and they work hard.
They these are these unions that have endorsed me. The
trade union up in up in northwest Ohio and operating

(01:37:56):
engineers construction trades. They endorse me because they understand growing
the pie is essential. They understand that made in America
is essential. They understand that if you grow the economy
that means that everybody has more jobs, and that we've
been doing that over the past few years in Ohio,
that we're turning the corner on a lot of these things.
And they want a pro growth leader in the US Senate.

(01:38:18):
And I'm proud to have their endorsement.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
And finally, before we part company, Senator John Houston akain
a much better choice than we know who the other
guy is Higo Community College. He's got a message for
the Higo Community colleges with regard to the workforce telgrants.

Speaker 19 (01:38:35):
Yeah, because think about this. For many, many years, workforce
tel grants were for people to go to college. But
tel grants are for people who are tend to be
lower income. Okay, that's who we're talking about, right, But
they could never be used for short term credentials skills
like where you could earn these skills in eight to
fifteen weeks, all right, And we change the law to

(01:38:55):
allow that to happen, so that now they can get
become ce and C machinists, welders, things, get these credentials and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Go to work in the trades. That's all talking about
with the.

Speaker 19 (01:39:05):
And before it was like you got to go for
two years, you got to go for four years. Well
a lot of people can't just take not work for
two years or four years. They need to They need
to go to work, and they need a job, and
they don't want to go to college. They just want
to work a skill. And this change that we made
to Workforce Peal in the big beautiful bill, by the way,
is allowing working people to get these skills in a

(01:39:26):
short term so that don't have college debt. Most employers don't,
you know, don't want degrees, they want skills. This is
what's changed about the world, and it's about time that
we get our systems in line with what's going on
out there in the real world.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
That's great. And plus, if you have some work requirements
with regard to receiving federal aid, you can use the
work requirements to apply toward a trade program, which is
only a matter of weeks as opposed to years. As
you mentioned, you'll be hitting the ground running with a
job because there's so many hundreds of thousands of jobs
out there in the trades that are currently unfulfilled. You
got a lot of the illegal grin population being booted

(01:40:01):
out of the country quite often they might do that.
Those are job openings and availability. That way you get
people off of the system. It's beautiful, Senator housed.

Speaker 19 (01:40:10):
Yeah, this is absolutely the way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
This is the way the system should work.

Speaker 19 (01:40:14):
The but the you know, the university system and the
status quo always said no, no, no, But now I
think we're turning the corner on yeah, and where people realize,
like college, college is fine, but it's not for everybody.
And the most jobs don't require a degree, they require
a skill. And if you want to go get college

(01:40:36):
beyond that great, But how about getting a skill, getting
a job, going to work, putting some money in your
pocket earlier rather than putting debt on your balance sheet. Right,
It's like, think about this. This is a much better
way to go about it. And it's funny thing. I
actually this is one of the first things I did
when I got here.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
I was one of the.

Speaker 19 (01:40:55):
Committees I'm on Overseas Education, and I work with Susan
Collins from Maine, and we did this like in a
very short period of time, and that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
I'm really happy.

Speaker 19 (01:41:05):
It's like when I took this job, it's like I
wanted to get some things done. Well, this is getting
something done where we're helping people get workforce skills rather
than have to, you know, go to go to college
for two or four years before they get a degree,
we're putting them to work.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Yeah, and a few years down the road, they'll look
back and reflect on the work that you did, Senator
Houston and getting those workforce pelgrants for these skills jobs,
because they're going to be happy. They're going to be employed,
they're gonna have a family, they'll have a house, they'll
have an income, and they'll be like, thank God for
John Houston and the others who brought this opportunity to us.
John Houston, I really appreciate you joining the program and
congratulations on that feather in your cap. You have a

(01:41:40):
website you want to refer my listeners to so they
can help out your campaign. Maybe get a T shirt,
yard sign that thing as we move forward.

Speaker 19 (01:41:47):
Yeah, you know. John Houstaedfsenate dot Com We would value
your support, whether that's a small donation or a volunteer
effort we take. We'll take anything that you can make.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
That's always the case. I wish you all the best, John.
You always have an open form here on the fifty
five Cars Morning Show to talk about the issues. And
I got my fingers crossed for you certainly have my vote. Great,
thank you, my pleasure. Seven forty two right now fifty
five KRC detalk station. Imaging can be affordable. Your affordability
is relative. So if you think six hundred dollars, for example,
is out of the realm of affordability, then you can't

(01:42:20):
go to a hospital imaging department because that's six hundred
dollars which you would probably pay, let's say for a
CT scan with a contrast at affordable imaging services. That's
going to set you back five thousand dollars, probably more,
maybe a little bit less. But you're in the realm
of thousands for something that you can get again for
six hundred with the contrast and only four hundred and

(01:42:42):
fifty bucks without a contrast. Same equipments being used at
Affordable imaging. Ford Certified Radiologist Report comes with this low
price already included. I've gotten the CT scans there, I've
got an MRI there. Not a doctor has never raised
an eyebrow about it. It's always like, well, here's what
a that's what I want to know. I didn't pay
as much for the image by far, save probably more

(01:43:04):
than ten thousand dollars by going there, and everybody's happy.
That'll be you. You have a choice when it comes to
your medical care exercise it go to affordable imaging services
for a fraction of the cost and they can get
you right in. May have to wait around for several
weeks to get into that hospital imaging department. Low overhead, yes,
but again, same kind of equipment. What do you want

(01:43:24):
to pay for the water sculpture that you see in
the lobby or a very inexpensive image that will fulfill
everyone's needs and expectations? Right, go with the ladder five
one three seven, five three eight thousand, five one three seven,
five three eight thousand. Online you'll find them at Affordable
Medimaging dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
Fifty five KRC. Hello, I'm Kate, leaving.

Speaker 9 (01:43:49):
Dire for here.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Channel nine first Warning weather forecasts got a mostly sunny
day to day. At some point they say it may
turn partly flotty, maybe a pop up show. Today's high
eighty two fifty nine every night with a few clowns
seventy Tomorrow's high which some showers in the morning, which
should be gone by noontime, a few clouds over night
fifty two. Friday's gonna be a partly plotty, dry day
with a higher than eighty one. Right now sixty in
time for traffic from.

Speaker 15 (01:44:11):
The UCEL traffic centery, you see health.

Speaker 16 (01:44:13):
You'll find comprehensive care that's so personal it makes your
best tomorrow possible. That's boundless care for better outcomes. Expect
more right you see health dot com problems northbound seventy five.
An accident before you got to Monzion Road. Hands the
right wing bocked in northern Kentucky. Thean's banking traffic pants
the rich Wood Ramp, then slow again out of Urrow
Anger into the cut. There's a wreck across the top

(01:44:35):
of eastbound two seventy five near Reed Hartman. That now
back's traffic to Mostellar. Chuck Ingram on fifty five kr
SEA the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
Seven fifty two here fifty five krc DE talk station
Eppy Wednesday no, the reminder next Wednesday, Next Wednesday, normally
first Wednesday the month, next Wednesday. Because of the holiday
this past Monday, we're doing listener lunch Anderson Pub and
grow looking forward to being there and enjoying one of
their great burgers, and of course, more importantly, the fellowship

(01:45:08):
that goes along with listener lunch. Remember fifty five Carose
dot Cow many time you can't listen live. I've got
the Big Picture with Jack Aviton at the beginning of
this hour. Love that guy, of course, my conversation with
Senator Houston, and my upcoming conversation with Judge Josh Berkowitz,
looking for re election sitting on the Hamlin Cony Municipal
Court bench, presided so far over twenty thousand cases. Good

(01:45:30):
man with a great reputation, at least that's my perception.
Got the FOP endorsement. We'll talk with Josh after the
top of the hour. News. Judge Napolitano on the FEDS
defending their tortures Again, little problem with the antics at GITMO. Sorry,
even GITMO prisoners. If you extract evidence from them in
violation of constitutional rights, you're not allowed to submit that

(01:45:51):
into evidence. Any criminal prosecution. We'll get the details of
the judge on that at the bottom. But I also
want to ask them about blowing up the drug bow.
Kind of puzzling over that. Trump says that they're they're
terrorists or rather gang members in the boat. He said,
it's a whole bunch of drugs in the boats and

(01:46:11):
in international waters in America, and military blew it up,
killing eleven people. And I guess sinking the drugs, I
guess I from a practical perspective, I don't think the
Trader or Agua gang is going to be able to
lawyer up and go after or sue the United States
government for violating their rights. But I I just keep

(01:46:31):
going back to the fundamental ian Can you do that?
Is it normal for us? I know we dropped drone
missiles and randomly hit targets inside countries against whom we
have no warpower war declaration. I've always struggled with that,
even though they're quote unquote bad guys. Just always joke.
I keep waiting for the day Canada is going to

(01:46:52):
decide someone here is a bad guy and launch a
drone strike or a missile strike on someone here sitting
in a cafe drinking a cup of coffee. Canada killed
so and so, evil criminal mastermind so and so blown
up in a Starbucks in Cincinnati, Ohio. We might find
a problem with that. It depends on whose ox is

(01:47:13):
being gored, So anyway, we'll talk. We'll get that from
the judge. And big news for the Save Hyde Park
Square folks. John Zenzer from Save High Park Square. They
voted yesterday the Budget Finance Committee, which I think is
comprised of all the council members, unanimously voted to end
the waiver that was provided to the well connected developers
in Hyde Park, so the back to square one. They

(01:47:33):
have been discussing and negotiating some sort of you know,
resolution or mediated solution, but as of right now, apparently
it's no longer going to be on the ballot after
tomorrow's formal vote. I think everyone's concluded reasonably to the
Budget Financial Committee, considering all the council members on it,
if they vote unanimously yesterday, they're going to vote unanimously tomorrow,

(01:47:54):
So that formality aside, it's no longer an issue and
the developer is basically acknowledging their starting all over again.
But they've agreed to scrap the hotel that was a
big problem, the ninety room boutique hotel. They apparently have
agreed to reduce some retail square footage and the number
of parking spaces, and they've agreed to lowering the building

(01:48:15):
heights and stepping back on the upper floors. Well, we'll
let them wait and see. Keep your popcorn out, but
I think I think Johnson is going to declare that
a victory. Seven fifty five right now. Stick around after
the top of the air news Judge Josh burk Witz.

Speaker 10 (01:48:32):
Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 11 (01:48:35):
The changes every minute fifty five KRC, The Talk Station.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
This report is sponsored by Starbucks the Pumpkins.

Speaker 12 (01:48:44):
Why has Hollywood written men out of most of their
streaming success?

Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
Shows?

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Play and Buck Today at noon on fifty five KRC.
Eight oh five fifty five KRC, The Talk Station. Bryan
Thomas wishing everybody ever happy Wednesday, Inviting you to stick around.
Judge Enna Poltana. Bottom of the hour, we'll hear from
Save High Park Squares John Zinzer some big developments on
that project yesterday and since a city council and without

(01:49:09):
further Ado Welcome back to the fifty five Caresey Morning Show.
Vote Judge Josh Berkowitz in November, Welcome back, Judge Burkowitz.
It's always great having you on the show, and thank
you for all that you do for our community.

Speaker 13 (01:49:21):
No thanks, Brian, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
I'll throw you a little bit of a curve before
we get to your endorsements and your your campaign and
how people can help you out. You're a board member
for the Hamilton County Law Library Resource Board. Yes, sir,
I saw that in your resume. I just had to
ask because I remember when I was a young man,
he used to work for Judge Panioto in the Domestic

(01:49:43):
Relations Court. Used to go up to the law library.
Yeah yeah, long time ago and they were on the
fourth floor of the courthouse. So I'm dating myself. But
the Hamilin County Law Library, this is an era that
sort of was the transition period in the eighties when
we started using Lexus and Westlaw. Kind of wonder in
the modern practice of law, and as a judge who
has to rely on case law, does anybody use the

(01:50:05):
actual physical library anymore? Or we all on computer using
AI and what lexis and West law.

Speaker 13 (01:50:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's The Law Library is really a
fascinating institution. It dates back, as you know, to something
like the eighteen thirty. Yeah, and it's really it's really
a beautiful facility, and they do a lot of really
neat stuff. They host a lot of events continuing legal education.

(01:50:33):
We have really almost brand new conference rooms that attorneys
can use for you know, client meetings and things like that.
And the library staff does legal research projects for any
public official, any office in Hamilton County.

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:50:54):
They do some some tremendous work up there, and a
lot of people don't even know it's there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
So I appreciate you mentioned, Judge.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
That's kind of one of the reasons I brought it up,
because it's at least worth walking through. I mean, even
if you're not a lawyer, it's it's like walking back
in time up there. Although it's been a long time
since I've seen it, Judge, I figured it hasn't changed
a whole lot since the eighties.

Speaker 13 (01:51:17):
It kind of reminds me of that scene in Indiana Jones,
you know, with the library and fanis the uh yeahs
marks the spot. Yeah, it's kind of got that feel
to it. Stained glass and there's some really neat historical
artifacts William Howard Taft stuff and different historical figures that

(01:51:37):
you know, trace their roots to Cincinnati and Hamilton County.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
So it's really a special place and it's been.

Speaker 13 (01:51:44):
An honor to be part of that for the last
I've been on that board since twenty twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
Oh, good for you, and thanks for your work on
it now. Obviously considering roots, you're a long time since
a born and raised here in Cincinnati, graduated from Elder
High School. The Losofolk that I'm staring at through the
monitor don't care. They're happy about that. Ohio State University
grad Capitol University law school, and then you went on
served as not just a criminal offense attorney right out
of law school, a prosecutor. You're assistant Hamilton County Prosecutor.

(01:52:12):
You've been on the Hamilton County Municipal Court bench since
twenty fifteen. Holy cow, you have presided over and decided
over twenty thousand cases. That is absolutely amazing.

Speaker 13 (01:52:26):
Yeah, it's been it's been really an honor to serve
over the last ten years on the bench, and it's
been a wild experience. You know, We've gotten to see Obviously,
municipal Court is a wonderful place. It's the busiest court,
one of the busiest courts in Ohio, and it really

(01:52:46):
is the broadest cross section of cases and people coming
before the court. So it's been a really neat experience
and we've gotten to see, you know, a lot of changes,
some of them not necessarily for the better and really ground.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Zero for a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:53:03):
Of these policies and philosophies that are very controversial right
now and they should be. We've seen a lot of
changes in approach to things like bonds and sentencing, and
I'm proud to say that, you know, I've been consistent
on these issues regarding public safety that the judges have.

(01:53:29):
One of our most serious responsibilities is setting bonds on
anybody who gets arrested in Hamilton County, they go before
a municipal Court judge within twenty four hours. And of
course that's become a very hot topic of debate. But
this is really years in the making, because you know,
we've seen a concerted effort across the country to advance

(01:53:51):
this progressive agenda to end cash bail, to release people
without requiring them to post a bond, and it's create
this sort of revolving door system that has absolutely made
this community less safe, and it's made communities across the country,
particularly in big cities, a lot less safe. And so

(01:54:13):
I'm glad that people are concerned about that. I'm glad
that they're asking those questions they should. You know, we're
fortunate in Ohio people get to choose what kind of
justice system that they're going to have in this community,
and they have an absolute stark contrast to choose from
in this election this fall.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Judge Berkowitz sentencing is critical. Of course. It seems to
me this progressive mentality that has been seeping into the
justice system doesn't appreciate that that is a critical leg
of the criminal justice system. Punishment, that is the deterrence.
That's the threat for mom and dad. You're going to
get swatted if you do something wrong. That's what's in
the law. The law calls for a certain amount of time.

(01:54:55):
You know, there's a sentencing guideline. You're going to be
in the can for X number of months or years
if you commit the crime. If you don't follow through
with that, word gets out among the criminal element that
will listen. I'm just going to get smacked on the
handle out on the street. Look at my own record
to demonstrate that that's truth. That's a real phenomenon, is
it not, Judge berger.

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
Witz, Absolutely.

Speaker 13 (01:55:16):
You know, A big part of that trend over the
last ten fifteen years is this notion that nothing good
comes from putting somebody in jail. It's the worst thing
in the world, and so forth, and it's just wrong.
We have a tremendous opportunity when you set bond, when

(01:55:37):
you impost sentence on serious cases, you know, you have
the opportunity as a judge to disrupt cycles of violence,
cycles of addiction. I mean, there's tremendous work that's done
in the justice center to identify people who have a
drug problem, people who have an alcohol problem, people who
have you know, some kind of mental health issue. There's

(01:55:59):
an opportuned to intervene there, right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
But moreover, when.

Speaker 13 (01:56:04):
You're talking about violence in this community, think about what
kind of message it sends to a neighborhood, to a community,
to victims of crime when they see somebody charged with
a serious crime of violence, felonious assault, shootings, robberies, and
they're back on the street eight hours later. I mean
that is so discouraging to witnesses, to victims. How do

(01:56:29):
you expect people to come forward to give testimony, to
come to court, to put themselves and their families at risk?
How do you expect them to do that when these
people who everybody in the neighborhood knows who's responsible for
the violence, the guns, the drugs. It's not a mystery.
The people in the neighborhood they know. And when they

(01:56:51):
see those guys get arrested and cycled right back out
on the street, it sends a message that our court
system is dysfunctional, sends a message that it's not safe
to come forward and give testimony or information to the authorities.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
He kind of unicipal court judge at Josh Bergerwitz running
for reelection. You can find him on line at keep
judge Burgerwitz dot com. Help them out what this sad,
sad thing I mean, if it's not bad enough. Sarah
Herringer had her husband stabbed the death in their apartment
and over the rhine. It was that that led us
to all find out the sad reality that if you
cut your ankle monitor off, no one's going to find

(01:57:27):
out about it. Law enforcement is not immediately notified this
guy was out from February all the way through June
when he stabbed Patrick Herring you to death in the
over the Rhine home. Do you know what the status
of that ankle monitor is? I'm sure as judge that
you've probably ordered people to wear ankle monitors. What was
your perception of what happens if they tamper with them,
cut them off, or otherwise don't get one?

Speaker 13 (01:57:48):
Well, ankle monitors are an important tool in certain cases,
but it's not an it's not a cure all. It's
not an every case kind of thing, because, I mean,
the reality that we know is that an ankle monitor
is only as effective as it remains in place, and

(01:58:09):
anybody can cut off an ankle monitor and then you've
got a big problem in a case like this, and
obviously this is you know, that was a worst case scenario,
you know, one of the things that has been brought
to light out of that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
And I'm glad that people are.

Speaker 13 (01:58:27):
Paying attention and concerned, not just ankle monitors, but you know,
I've gotten questions about the program called tea cap. There's
been changes in state law over the last ten twenty
years that have dramatically impacted public safety in Hamilton County.
Te CAP was twenty seventeen. It was casic era sort

(01:58:47):
of criminal justice policy that amounted to the state of
Ohio paying counties to not send people to prison, tied
funding for probation departments. Directly to the felonies are the
fourth and fifth degree, which is the largest categories of felonies,
became ineligible to go to prison. So these are serious

(01:59:09):
offenses that get played down like low level felonies. Well,
this is stealing a car, This is fleeing and eluding
the police, running from the police in a stolen car.
This is carrying an illegal weapon in a car. This
is breaking and entering in people's property, This is theft
up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So with

(01:59:31):
that legislation, all of those individuals, the largest category of felonies,
became ineligible to go to prison, even on a probation violation.

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
So what that's.

Speaker 13 (01:59:42):
Amounted to are more felons out on the street in
Hamilton County and around Ohio. And I'm glad that people
are asking those questions because it has most definitely not
made this community safe. That was the promise. This was
smarter justice. It was going to you know, put people
back to work, it was going to make our community safer.

(02:00:05):
And the reality is exactly the opposite. It treats criminal
justice and public safety like just another line item on
a budget, and it's it's simply not.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
You know, this is why.

Speaker 13 (02:00:16):
Public safety is why people pay their taxes. They expect
accountability for dangerous criminals, they expect justice for victims, they
expect the courts to function in an appropriate manner. And
you know, the state paying counties to not send felons
to prison really is the exact opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
I think your comments this morning here are illustrative of
why you receive the FOP endorsement. They're concerned about this
as well. They're the officers out there the rest criminals
and see them back on the streets the next day
or the very same day, frustrating for them, probably not
encountering as many people or bothering the even issue citations.
So that's a real problem. You got the endorsement. What

(02:00:57):
do you make of Jeff Cameron's allocation of money for
a bonding and sentencing project because of that issue. He
said they want to study the whole concept of bond
because there's a lot of data out there. He wants
to sit down with judges and prosecutors and the sheriff,
the biggest stakeholders is He said, would you engage in

(02:01:18):
that process, to engage in the conversation about the direction
we're going and how it may be bad for the
community at large.

Speaker 13 (02:01:25):
Look, I'll talk to anybody who will listen. As you
can tell, Brian, I'm happy to have a conversation with
anybody who's sincerely concerned about public safety in this community.
But it's not a mystery, okay. I mean, there's no
question Cincinnati police are down. The number I've heard is

(02:01:46):
something like two hundred officers. Yes, But moreover, I mean
it's not just numbers of officers, as anybody, anybody who
knows will tell you. It's about their leadership from city hall.
You know, enforcement has been down, and it's been down
for years. This is not I mean, it frustrates me

(02:02:06):
when I hear journalists and others talk about, well, let's
compare twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four. That's not
the right comparison in my opinion. You've got to go
back a long time. So, for example, you know, in
that position on the law library that you mentioned, I
see receipts from traffic enforcement. Traffic enforcement fell off after

(02:02:31):
twenty twenty. Yeah, I mean, it just and it hasn't recovered. No,
And I don't think anybody believes that all of a sudden,
Cincinnati drivers just became that much more responsible and there's
that many fewer accidents and that many fewer moving violations.
The reality is that enforcement is down, not just in traffic,

(02:02:53):
of course, but in all types of criminal justice and
whether it's offers, looking for weapons, looking for drugs. This
has become by design.

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
They've made Cincinnati police.

Speaker 13 (02:03:06):
A reactive response, responding to calls for assistance rather than
being proactive and actually trying to get at the people
who they know are committing these criminal offenses and get
them before a tragedy happens. That's just not happening right now.
So numbers are important. Funding is important, But the reality

(02:03:28):
is city Hall. You know, the officers on the street,
they know they don't have the support of their civilian leadership.
They know that they are one cell phone video away
from getting hauled in front of some review board, and
so you know, it means they pull back from any
type of enforcement action and they wait for the call

(02:03:49):
for assistance.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
Well, if you're concerned about enforcement, you need to keep
Judge burkwoit that's the website. Keep Judge Burkerwood's b E
r kW I t Z dot com. Judge Burke, it's
a pleasure having you on. Thank you on behalf of
everybody in my listening audience and the Hamilton County generally
speaking for being tough on law enforcement and understanding the
practical realities of the criminal justice system which does require

(02:04:11):
punishment for it to work. I wish you all the best.
You have an open forum here on the morning show. Judge,
if you want to talk again will be. I hope.
So between now and November, we've got an opportunity to
change the direction and Judge Burkowitz is a man to
keep us on the right path. Judge Burkwitz, thank you
for your time this morning.

Speaker 13 (02:04:28):
Thank you, Brian. I appreciate your time.

Speaker 1 (02:04:30):
My pleasure. It's eight twenty one right now. If you
five KRC the talk station, judg Ennita Poulton a bottom
of the hour, hope you can stick around. This is
fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio station. Our iHeartRadio music. Time
for the Jena nine first morning one. The forecast got
mostly sunny skies a little it may turn partly by it. It
may be a pop up shower. Eighty two for the

(02:04:52):
high today, down to fifty nine over night, which is
a few clowns. Seventy the high tomorrow with showers in
the morning which should be out by noontime. Over night,
a few clouds. It's fifty two and a dry, partly
fatty Friday with a high of eighty one fifty nine
right now. Let's hear from Chuck Ingram on traffic.

Speaker 15 (02:05:08):
From the UCL Tramptics Center. You see health.

Speaker 16 (02:05:10):
You'll find comprehensive care that's so personal it makes your
best tomorrow possible. That's boundless care for better outcomes. Expect
more at UCHealth dot com. Southbound seventy five continue slow
in and out of Lachland. Southbound seventy one from Fields
eardled down to Redbank for over a twenty minute delay.
Northbound seventy five is down to just one lane to

(02:05:33):
get by thanks to an accident and vehicle fire before
Mount Zion Road. That traffic is now backing up to
seventy one and close to an hour delay. Well, the
calendar has changed to fall, which means it's our next
guest's favorite time of the year. Not Giants football, not
Yankees playoff baseball. It's pumpkins spice season, and he has

(02:05:57):
pumpkins spice, soap, pumpkins spine shampoo.

Speaker 6 (02:06:02):
Man.

Speaker 16 (02:06:02):
He certainly loves pumpkin pie made with pumpkin spice, which
doesn't seem all that odd to me. So sit back
and grab his favorite Lotte and listen to the judge.
He is next. Chuck ingramont fifty five krs the talk
station a thirty ifify five car seat he talks station. No,

(02:06:24):
Chuck Ingram did not run by those conclusions passed Judge
Edita Polatana before announcing them. I have no idea what
your position is on pumpkin spice crap, Judge editor Politano,
I don't think Chuck does.

Speaker 15 (02:06:37):
I don't have a position.

Speaker 20 (02:06:38):
And then even I don't know where he got that from.
Weck pumpkins on my farm, but pumpkins not pumpkin spice.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
Right, Well, I think the answer is Joe Strecker, a
little bird, revealed to me this morning that Chuck Ingram
quite often gets an assist from the executive producer of
the fifty five KRC Morning Show. So if it's some
sort of day or special event going on that lands
and coding sides with our discussions on a Wednesday, you
can thank Joe Streker for probably feeding him a little information.

(02:07:06):
But regardless, he's a goofy guy. Both of them are
goofy guys. Judge, Yeah, we all love Joe. I mean
I wouldn't have I would not have this job if
it wasn't for Joe Streker, Judge and Polton. I'll give
him all the credit in the world. Hey, can I
throw you a curveball before we dive into your column,
which is the FEDS defending their tortures Again, I was

(02:07:27):
puzzling over this and I immediately thought of you, and
I've told my listeners this morning several times. I've got
to ask the judge about this. From a legal standpoint,
you and I have talked many, many, many times about
our perceptions which we believe it wrong for us to
unilaterally drop bombs on country in countries against whom we
have no war declaration because we perceive there's a bad

(02:07:49):
guy sitting there. So random dude, he's a terrorist, we
blow him up, like, okay, out of nowhere, a bomb
blows up, and we questioned the legality of that. But
yesterday Donald Trump announced that our military blew up a
boat that had eleven what they're saying suspected Venezuela and

(02:08:09):
trade the Aragua Narco terraces and along with a bunch
of drugs. They're all dead now, the boat's sunk, and
I guess the drugs are at the bottom of the ocean. Now,
if our Coastguard was in international waters and they came
across a drug sub or something, they couldn't just blow
it up, could they. I mean, I'm wondering about how

(02:08:29):
what this means. I mean, there's nobody in the world
that's gonna, you know, successfully defend the trend de Iragua
gang members, and I don't know what forum they would
launch some sort of legal challenge for wrongful death or whatever,
but it seems it just seems to me to be Wow,
that's pretty bold in and of itself, just blowing the
boat up.

Speaker 20 (02:08:48):
It was an act of homicide and a war crime
for the United States military to attack civilians, and it
was a pre conviction extra execution.

Speaker 1 (02:09:01):
There you go.

Speaker 20 (02:09:02):
Crime for which doesn't even call for the death penalty,
even if they had been guilty of what the President
accused them of, improperly prosecuted and lawfully convicted. What the
government should have done if it felt that they were
transporting drugs into the United States and the only thing
they could legally have done would have been to stop

(02:09:23):
that boat in American waters, search it if there's nothing there,
let them go. If there are drugs there, confiscate the drugs,
and arrest these people. But to execute them like that
is absolutely totally directly prohibited.

Speaker 1 (02:09:39):
By the Fifth Amendment.

Speaker 20 (02:09:41):
Yeah, and what I just said you probably won't hear
said very much.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
No day I as the.

Speaker 20 (02:09:47):
President has demonized them, and he likes to show strength,
and he likes to show forst and he'll say he
saved so many American lives from.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
These drugs, but he's destroying the.

Speaker 15 (02:09:57):
Constitution in the process.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
Yeah, I mean, it's it shouldn't be. You know, it
depends on whose ox is being gored. Thing here. I
know nobody can defend gang members and narco terrorists. But again,
your conclusion is exactly what I expected you to say,
because I pointed out, if you know, if I've got
a van full of drugs and I'm driving at I
seventy five and local law enforcement pulls me over. To
your point, I wouldn't be subject to the death penalty

(02:10:21):
and they couldn't just shoot me on the spot. They'd
have to take the drugs in process, me proving a
court of law beyond a reasonable doubt that I was guilty,
and then maybe end up in five ten years in
prison probably at most, but no death penalty involved.

Speaker 20 (02:10:35):
So so I don't know where this goes.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
It will probably go nowhere, right.

Speaker 20 (02:10:42):
I honestly thought that the comments of President Maduro I'm
not a fan of his, were articulate, tempered, measured appropriately
praise worthy of Trump basically saying, why do you want
to stain yourself with the blood of these Latin Americans?
So uh and Pete Hegseeth is to blame as well.

(02:11:03):
We have a defense secretary who apparently doesn't say, mister President,
would you rethink this? Rather when the president says jump,
eg Seth says when where?

Speaker 15 (02:11:12):
And how high?

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
Amen to that? All right? Amar al Balucci, Uh.

Speaker 20 (02:11:20):
You've probably never heard of him, and I never heard
of him.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Came up the subject matter of the column, the Feds
defend their tortures. Again, we're back at guantano Obey and
dealing with the aftermath of absolute, outright violations of human rights.
I'm sorry, if you beat a confession out of someone,
you cannot introduce whatever was said as a consequence of
the beating or other more severe torture. UH in a

(02:11:45):
court of law, which means you're on shaky legal grounds.
So what's going on?

Speaker 20 (02:11:49):
What you just said is criminal procedure one oh one right,
and law students, long before they study for and pass
the bar, know the true that you articulated. It took
a military court eight years to get to the bottom
of this. Now, admittedly there was a lot of litigation.

(02:12:10):
They kept changing judges, there was a lot of testimony
as to what happened, who knew what when, And finally
the judge did the right thing. But if this had
happened in a civilian federal court, saying Lower Manhattan, it
would have been resolved about twenty years ago. So right
after the judge invalidated this confession, the guy was tortured

(02:12:33):
over a thousand times. I'm not going to say what
they did to him in this discussion.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
Use your imagination, folks, and you're probably in safe ground.

Speaker 20 (02:12:41):
The only thing I will add that I had not
seen before is the New York Times reported that one
of the transcripts read by the New York Times reporter
revealed that CIA apprentices took turns smashing this guy's head
against a wall. That's some apprenticeship, but so you can

(02:13:03):
imagine what else they did to him. This went on
over eleven, over one thousand sessions. Then the CIA disappears.
Then they hand him over to the FBI. Then very seasoned,
experienced the FBI agents who had nothing to do with
the torture, start questing and him, questioning him, and he
tells them everything they want to hear. Then they want

(02:13:24):
to introduce the confession into evidence. Then they have years
of litigation and testimony, at the end of which the
judge concluded he was so malleable, so fearful of what
they had done to him, that his testimony is inherently unreliable.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
I mean, the law is pretty clear.

Speaker 20 (02:13:46):
If you torture somebody, no matter who they are and
what they say and what you learn from them, it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
Can't be used.

Speaker 20 (02:13:52):
And you've committed a crime in the act of torture.

Speaker 6 (02:13:56):
Now the judge.

Speaker 20 (02:13:58):
Invalidates the torture, invalidates the confession on the basis of
the torture, and then retires again. So there's no judge
in this case, and nobody's.

Speaker 15 (02:14:13):
Volunteering for it because there's forty.

Speaker 20 (02:14:15):
Thousand pages of documents that have to be read by
whoever the newly assigned judges. I mean, this is what
tying to obey military prosecutions is just an unsufferable mess.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
Yeah, that's what I refer to as kafka esque. I mean,
this guy's they keep changing judges. It's like every time
they get to some point in time where they seem
to be at a point of resolution, the judge quits
and they got to start all over again, and the
new guy's got to read forty thousand pages of transcriup
just understand where in the hell he is in the case.
And so they kick the can down the road again.

Speaker 20 (02:14:50):
And the same thing happens with the prosecution team. There
is no one on the prosecution team now who was
on it when these prosecutions started, So it's the prosecution
team is huge, so.

Speaker 15 (02:15:02):
It doesn't all change at.

Speaker 20 (02:15:04):
Once, but it has completely changed four times. And this
judge who were just retired is the fourth judge, so
there will soon be a fifth. And how long, no
matter who he is or she is, how long will
it take that person to read forty thousand pages before
they can gear up for more litigation? So I write

(02:15:27):
this stuff because the public needs to know what's being
done in their name. But by the way, this guy
was taking a shower one day. It's allowed one shower
a week, all right, it's a jail. It to a prison.
And in the steam on the wall of the shower,
using his finger, he writes his name for that. He
was denied water for forty eight hours because he's prohibited

(02:15:50):
from telling anybody who he is, including the guard who's
staring at him while he's taking the shower, who knows
damn well who he is.

Speaker 1 (02:15:57):
Geez, it's hard to make sense of it, any of that.
And of course, look what happened. You ind of pretty
significant legal trouble after all those decades. None of it,
none of it boor any fruit, well poison fruit anyway, right,
your honor.

Speaker 20 (02:16:11):
Yes, absolutely, Speaking of which, our favorite congressman will be
front and center in about two hours. He's not going
to let the Republican leadership bigfoot him on Epstein by
releasing thirty three thousand pages, all of which had already
been released. He is so fearless, so courageous, so steadfast.

(02:16:36):
He's just a wonderful human being, a.

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Blessing to the Constitution.

Speaker 20 (02:16:40):
I speak, of course of Congress.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
He'll be on Judging Freedom today a couple hours. I'll
ask my listeners to check out that podcast, as I
regularly ask them to do. Anybody else you want to
mention for we part company today, Judge of Politano.

Speaker 20 (02:16:53):
My usual Wednesday crew Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, Colonel Karen Kodkowski,
and Phil jer the CIA officer who told George Bush
that so Tomas Say does not have weapons of mess
destruction when push throw him out of the Oval office.

Speaker 14 (02:17:08):
The rest is history.

Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
The rest is history, and we will part company and
see you back again next Wednesday. God bless you your honor.
I always enjoy it, my friend, have a great week
back at you, Brian, Thank you, sir. Eight forty two
fifty five KR City Talk Station, Big progress for the
residents of Hyde Park. John Zinzer is going to join
the program next from Save Hyde Park Square fifty five

(02:17:30):
KRC dot com in Happy Wednesday, Please welcome back to
the thirty five KRC Morning Show, and I'm guessing it's
a moment of celebration this morning with John Zinzer, who's
behind the Save Hyde Park Square movement. He and a
lot of other people got the signature drive, going eighteen
thousand signatures to get a vote on the ballot this
November to repeal the variance that the city Council and

(02:17:52):
the mayor allowed the well connected developer to enter into
which got rid of connected communities in Hyde Park Square
and was going to allow this monstrous development which offended
many of the residents. They wanted to say in the
direction of their own neighborhood. They were going to get it,
but apparently no. I guess they saw the writing on
the wall. Yesterday, all nine council members in the Budget
and Finance Committee voted to repeal the waiver, meaning we're

(02:18:16):
back to square one. John Zinzer, welcome back, man. Are
you pretty happy about yesterday.

Speaker 14 (02:18:21):
It's good to talk with you as always, Brian, Thank you.
There's pluses and minuses. For sure. We have a sense
that you know something that never happened before. This is
the first time Cincinnati city council has ever rescinded one
of its own Votes's pretty important.

Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
They saw their elections in jeopardy, didn't they, John, Huh,
that could be.

Speaker 14 (02:18:44):
Part of it, for sure. I have to say. One
of the reasons we're not just all really celebrating is
we should have been here months ago.

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
Amen.

Speaker 14 (02:18:52):
This would have been really easy if somebody within the
Planning Department or another city council member had said, you know,
I just shouldn't go forward like this. So that's one
reason not to be quite as happy as you might
think we could be. And then the second piece is
it's really very unclear how this ball came to pass.
Here is the release from the developer. Here's a release

(02:19:15):
very minimal from the Mayor's office, and the statement there
is that the developer asked for this. Well, it's really
intriguing to me that if we're going to do something
for the first time ever, why didn't you do it
when the citizens asked? Why do you only do it
when the developer asks? And the second piece is I

(02:19:35):
had a very direct conversation with the project manager and
he said, this is some months ago now. He said,
we have been told we can't ask to rescind by people.
You don't want to cross downtown. So here I am
stuck with Wait, he changed his mind, and they did
ask or who came to who first. On the one hand,

(02:19:57):
it doesn't really matter, but on the other hand, it
does leave us all scratching our head.

Speaker 13 (02:20:02):
And as you.

Speaker 14 (02:20:02):
And I have discussed before, it just goes forward. Now
it looks like the developer is going to turn around
fairly quickly and put in a new application, not for
another plans development, not for another PD, but to go
through quote unquote the normal zoning process, which if they
had done that at the beginning, this could have been
a completely different approach. But it seems that they're going

(02:20:25):
to tee it off at seventy five feet, which is
fifty percent beyond the zoning right now, and the committee
that they've got to go to now, the process we
have to go into now is called zoning. And when
the council votes on this tomorrow, and we believe all
nine people will continue to vote. And there was a boy,

(02:20:47):
there was a lot of backpadding and a little bit
of yeah, we didn't quite get it right before. You
all did really nicely. All of a sudden, we're everybody's
best friends down there. But when they vote on it,
the PD will just go away and the zoning is
the zoning. It will be what the law has always been,
and that's where we should start. Which on again, as

(02:21:09):
you and I, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:21:10):
No, I was just going to say, doesn't well yesterday's
action which leads to tomorrow's full council vote, although it's
redundant because everybody on council is part of the Budget
Finance Committe apparently, so we expect unanimous osmoarre same thing.
Doesn't that revert back then to the former zoning change.
They foist it on all the neighborhoods, which is connected communities.

Speaker 14 (02:21:31):
Right, that would be right? This would include the Urban
Design Overlay District which is part of Hyde Park Square.
This would you be that zoning law which was in
effect as of June of twenty four, which they just
set aside via the PD. Right will now be the
law of the land as it always has been. And
I think starting at the zoning is a better place

(02:21:54):
to start the discussion than starting at a number that
the developer just says that's what they want, and so
why don't we start at fifty, which is what the
law said, which is what it should have been all along.
And we have said before, sure we see some room
here for something beyond that. The law actually says something
like marginal or reasonable consideration. We offered sixty three something

(02:22:21):
like that, which was a twenty five percent premium. But
here they are again saying, well, let's start at a
fifty percent premium and we'll go on from there. I
have to say the discussions have been you know, there
was a lot of back and forth. There was the
one effort with council Member Walsh and Council under Johnson,
and it really felt like there was some possibility there.

(02:22:44):
They put a proposal on the table for five stories
made out of wood. Our team was like, yeah, let's
do that, and then all of a sudden that proposal
goes away. It seems very hard for us to ever
going to have a chance to celebrate when this gets done.
I hope we'll have a beautiful building that fits in
the neighborhood, makes a positive contribution to the business community,

(02:23:08):
and will be something that can last. But right now
it just feels like it's coming out of difficult place
after difficult place, and false promise after false promise. It's
hard to feel positive about that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:20):
Yeah, and I suppose an unlikely possibility though, But since
if they vote to repeal it tomorrow, which they will,
it's not going to be on the ballot because the
issues moved, but that they if they could, I think
will be politically suicide. But they got a couple of
years buffer, they could go back and allow the variance
again put back the original PD in place. So okay,

(02:23:41):
well we unrang that bell, but now we're going to
ring it again. We're going to give the developers what
they want Square one.

Speaker 14 (02:23:47):
I think that's, as you say, political suicide. I think
that would be really daunting to try to pull off
at this point. But I think the developer is looking at, well,
how much can we get via the other mechanism since
we didn't get everything we wanted via the first mechanism.

(02:24:07):
You know, I hope this would say we always said
before there was a position we tried to get clear before.
If city Council had taken the PD off the table,
negotiation could have started much earlier. But by going through
everything that they did, getting all the way to the
end of April before we could even start the petition collection,

(02:24:28):
which we did and turned in the eighteen thousand and
that's the only moment at which developers sort of turned
and said, Okay, let's have a real conversation. So as
is so typical and lots of political things. It was
left way too late and way too pressurized. And it
didn't have to be like this City Council could have

(02:24:48):
the city and lots of different forms, the Planning Commission,
the City Council, lots of different places. It could have stopped,
taken the PD off the table and said, go have
a reasonable com conversation and come back when you've got
something that never happened.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
John, I'm laughing because you know, I appreciate Scott Wharton
from the inquiry. You know, reporting on this got some
information from him thanks to his reporting, so props. But
here's a sentence from the reporting on this article. Several
council members called for the city and developers in the
future two more clearly engage the community for future projects.
Somebody wrote, loll after that, I thought that was pretty good,

(02:25:24):
Like no kidding or yours yeah, right.

Speaker 14 (02:25:30):
Is what we've been asking the city to do. That
is what we have been saying all along. Citizens should
have a say in their neighborhood. And honestly, that's why
they didn't want it to go on the ballot, because
that's that's a yes, a bole question. Yes, there's nobody
who's going to say, are you going to pick something else?
Then you can either have a say in your neighborhood
or you can turn it over to other people so

(02:25:51):
that they can do what they want. That's just not
a winnable question.

Speaker 1 (02:25:55):
Well, and it's still an issue for the November elections
because of connected communities which were shoved down all of
the neighborhood's throat, whether they wanted it or not. Bond
Hill still implay because of that.

Speaker 14 (02:26:04):
So, you know, and this was one of the things
that was said yesterday. You know, we got to look
for a minor course correction and a couple of different
people said, oh, you wonderful people from Hyde Park. You've
shown other neighborhoods. I don't want to let people know
we haven't shown other neighborhoods. Other neighborhoods joined with us,
and we're going to stay joined with them. The next

(02:26:26):
thing that comes up, I hope whoever it is, wherever
it is, bond Hill, Cuff, wherever across the city, somebody
else starts pushing a PD for no particular good reason,
without much neighborhood call us and we're going to show
up and we're going to be there with you, the
same way that those other fourteen communities were here with us,
the same way that the civic organizations who joined with us.

(02:26:47):
This isn't over because they're not building a ninety three
foot building. This is not over because they build any building.
This is a change in the city. This is a
once that's never happened before. This is the rescinding of
this vote helps us as neighborhoods know working together, working

(02:27:09):
as a team, we can change the conversation. And we're
going to keep doing.

Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
That the power of grassroots activism by regular everyday folks
like you, John Zinzer, God bless you. It's an excellent
lesson for the council members and the mayor, and hopefully
they take it to heart and not try to pull
these shenanigans again. Keep my fingers crossed for Hyde Park
and the other neighborhoods along those lines. John, excellent work,
and I appreciate you keeping us all up to speed
here in the morning show, and we'll all have our

(02:27:36):
popcorn out as you will, waiting to find out how
this thing shakes out. John Zinzer, You're always welcome here
to give us updates.

Speaker 14 (02:27:43):
Thanks, Brian, really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:45):
My pleasure. Coming up an eight fifty six Big Picture
with Jack Edan this morning the NFL and Network News.
Interesting conversation that one Senator John Houston on a variety
of topics. Jodge Josh Berkowitz one of the good judges
we've gotten. Hamilton Kin been around since twenty fifteen. We
need to re elect him in November, please, Judge Eddenopolton.
Of course, Johnson's are all on the podcast page. Fifty

(02:28:06):
five KRC dot com. Yay for Thursday Slash Friday Eve
iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliff every Thursday at eight
thirty along with the other guests. Joe Strecker, EXECU producer
will line up. Thank you Joe for all that you do.
God bless you, sir. Folks. Have a wonderful day and
don't go away because Glenn Beck's coming right up Today's
top stories at the top of the hour.

Speaker 4 (02:28:26):
It's information that matters to me.

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
Fifty five KRS the talk station