55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Massie, Judge Napolitano

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to that one. The Return of Americans for Prosperity is

(02:09):
Donovan and Neil. That takes place at seven point thirty.
Topic Make Government Work, new campaign from AFP. Can you
make government work? Not during a shutdown? Oh yeah, maybe
you can. It's like Donald Trump got a lot of
his appointees approved yesterday. Some work can get done. Congressman
Thomas Massy eight to five. Congressman Mass, you'll talk about

(02:31):
the shutdown and oh has anybody else heard anything about
the Epstein files lately? I know we got a lot
going onto the world. We're easily distracted, maybe intentionally, so
Congress am Asking is gonna be talking about the Epstein
file vote, which may be fast approaching. A lot of
folks sweating bullets. And I still can't abide the Trump

(02:52):
administration just turning on doing a one to eighty on
releasing those documents. Lots of very well healed folks suggested
will be implicated if the documents are released. Big money folks,
champions of industry, those evil corporate billionaires. At least suggestions
along those lines have been made. Go ahead and figure
out for yourself. I don't know why they haven't been released.

(03:13):
Maybe Congressman Massi can shed some light on that and
be around at eight h five for that conversation. And
Judge Eneda paoul Tano. When presidents kill more about launching
rocket strikes and blowing up drug dealers, and they're recently,
it was kind of odd. There's a DOJ A Justice
Department Legal Analysis. Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel issued

(03:40):
an opinion which so far has not been circulated. You
and I haven't been able to see. CNN reported on
this which said, basically, the Trump administration can authorize these
strikes on the cartels that he has basically unlimited authority.
President allowed to authorize deadly force against a broad range
of cartels because they pose what the legal councils suggests

(04:03):
are an imminent threat to Americans. And also the repinion
suggests the list of cartels goes beyond the ones that
the administration has publicly designated as terrorist organization like the
deer Agua Gang. That I believe that those whose boats
are being blown up on the off the coast of Venezuela.
But it is pointed out and this is something that

(04:25):
Politana will also argue. I'm sure historically drug trafficking is
a criminal act, and the Coastguard just picks up the
drug trafficking vessels, arrests the smugglers, and we well prosecute
them in a court of law with due process. You know,

(04:45):
I'm worried about this. I know no one's got any
love for drug dealers, and you know, I'll admit to
a bit of shot and fraud. I want to see
a bomb blow up a boat full of drugs, but
I don't abide by it happening that way. There seems
to me there should be some congressional and you know,
this is literally a war that's being waged. Granted it's
not under you know, against an army flying under the

(05:06):
color of a state flag. This is an organized drug
or cartel. It's kind of like fighting terrorists, isn't it.
Rather than blowing people up in the name of some
fundamentalist religion, Well, they're committing acts of crime and killing
people in the name of making money by well, shipping
drugs into the United States where the demand is quite heavy.

(05:26):
I think we need to look more inwardly with regard
to the drug problem, because we are the problem. There's
always an entrepreneur out there who's going to see a
money making opportunity and ignore the morality and ethics of
making money just for the sake of making money. Welcome
to the drug industry. So there have been I think
four strikes on these boat so far, and again I

(05:49):
see it happening. But we live in a crazy world.
This whole Russia Ukraine drone war has really revealed the
obvious nature of the change of the military landscape. And
if you can go out Amazon and order a drone
and have it delivered to your front door. Today. It's
that easy to get a drone. And these military drones
obviously are inexpensive to manufacture, and they're literally everywhere in

(06:12):
the tens of thousands. All you need is a drone
to blow something up. Can you use the hell fire missile?
Sure you can. Can you use other yeah? But what
if some other country with this technology and everybody's getting it.
It's not like a nuclear power technology or nuclear weapons technology.

(06:33):
Apparently that's very difficult to get because you have to
have centrifuges. You have to invest tens of millions and
billions perhaps dollars to create a bomb. Look at North Korea,
they've been working at it for decade. Look at Well.
Of course, you've got a lot of countries. Iran has
been working on building a bomb for decades and decades. Now, right,
it isn't easy to accomplish. But can you buy up

(06:54):
a whole bunch of drones and conduct missile strike?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (06:57):
What if they designated Donald Trump or someone the administration,
or just the United States generally as a country that
poses an eminent threat to them. I mean, Iran can
make a good argument for that, couldn't it we drones
strike them and blow them up and drop big bunker
busting bombs on them. We are an eminent threat to
the existence of Iran. Maybe they can start launching drones

(07:18):
against us. I know we would declare an act of
it would be an active war. We have nuclear weapons.
That's why other countries maybe don't go after us. The
great deterrence, this massive military might we have. But does
that justify our massive military might? Does it justify us
going off and letting any president? Remember, this shouldn't be

(07:39):
an argument over whose ox is being gored some other
president under a different political party. Perhaps in this role,
that is a tremendous amount of power and it's a
well it is literally waging war. Now you can make
the argument, well, this is directed at drug dealers. This
isn't directed at Venezuela or fill in the blank on
any country. But if it's taking place on their soil,

(08:01):
in their waters, they could perceive it as an active
war in spite of the fact that it's an act
directed at criminal element. So fast and loose with military
power is not a road I want to go down to.
It should be a thoughtful analysis. It should be involved people.
I would argue, of both political stripes. It's difficult for
me to say that, but that's where I am. We

(08:23):
have a constitution, It limits the presidential powers and war
is something that should be avoided at all costs, even
if it's a war on well, cartels and boats floating
around in the middle of the ocean thousands of miles
away eminent threat you decide. I imagine other lawyers and

(08:47):
a different team of lawyers from the Office the Legal
Counsel could have come up with a different conclusion. Yeah,
it does happen that way anyway. Early votings started today
since anti outs Era and Hamiltin County early voting. It's open.
Get out to the Board of Elections, cast your vote.
I saw this article from Scott Warman over at the
enquir and you know, I was really irked about it.

(09:09):
I'm irked every time local reporters talk and mention Corey
Bowman because it's always jd Vance's half brother, Corey Bowman
or Corey Bowman, jd Vance's half brother. Does that have
any relevance on who Corey Bowman is. Jd Vance hasn't
even I mean, isn't running he hasn't really endorsed anybody.
He's not campaigning for Corey Bowman. In fact, according to
the reporting in this article, they rarely even talk, and

(09:31):
when they do they talk about, you know, family stuff.
But there it is in the headline. In Cincinnati. JD.
Vance's half brother hopes for a political earthquake in mayor race.
Corey Bowman's name is not even in the headline. Despite
or maybe because of Bowman's personal relationship to the White House.

(09:51):
Bowman faces a steep climb to unsee democratic incumbent have
to have Provall hum this time around. The Republican can
for the city mayor also happens to be Vice President.
JD Vance's half brother. All of this from headline in
the first page of the article. He's mentioned it three times.

(10:12):
Goes on to show, yeah, I mean he did finish
a distance second in the primary, thirteen percent of the
vote to Provall's eighty three fine. Apparently very limited spending
so far this year. That's the current status of the race.
There's been no television or radio ads. They point out
Purval has out raised Corey Bowman, reporting that pur of
Ball's got one hundred and twenty seven grand, Bowman twenty
three grand, But that's a painfully low number for even

(10:35):
per ball last time. He got four hundred and thirty
one thousand back in twenty one by this point in
the race, So a lot less money, a lot less enthusiasm.
And it's noted by one political commentator observer that well,
with the voter turnout as low as it was for
the primary at ten percent, Bowman's only shot, according to

(10:55):
the political analysis, is if there is a low voter turnout,
voter turnout and a really healthy number of voters that
well normally would sit on their hands and not vote.
You independent minded folks, you people believe the Democratic Party
has left you. You Democrats have believe have to have.
Provoll hasn't represented your interests. And all the other conservative

(11:18):
leaning folks out there who have given up on voting
in Democrat in elections in cities of Cincinnati because well
they it's the uphill battle that's referred to in the article.
Don't give up on that. Mean Provoll is not it
does not have an engaged base. It seems just look

(11:40):
to the money and Bowman's another component of this article,
and I believe it's an accurate assessment. The enquirre noted
that all of the people that show out of these
is shue up at the Bowman rallies or a lot
of them anyway or outside of the city of Cincinnati.
Of course, he enjoys a lot of support out there
among them or seeing conservative masses, so that's wonderful. And

(12:04):
folks outside of the city that can't vote in the
election can certainly support his campaign, put a yard sign
in or hand him some money. More fundamentally, but we
need the votes. And as much as you might love
Corey Bowman outside of the city of Cincinnati, of people
within the city of Cincinnati, the ones that are obviously
going to be terming this so and then you know

(12:25):
they mentioned the lower turnout. The political analyst over at
the Zavier University of Professor Marianni. He's a political science expert.
If people don't show up, you don't need as many votes.
It's the longest of long shots. Not a great assessment
for Corey Bowman from presser Professor Marianni, but a little
glimmer of pope if you show up. And of course

(12:47):
the article concludes with one more reference but Bowman's family,
but it's Bowman's family that has drawn much of the attention.
His half brother is Vice president JD.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Van.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
So if you didn't get the memo as you're reading
through Scott Wortman's article about this, guess what Corey Bowman is.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
JD.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Van's's half brother. Beat that dead horse over and over
and over and over, Scott, appreciate it five eighteen right
now Galaxy floor, and this stuff is absolutely beautiful. Check
out your concrete service. Love hearing from you. I feel
pretty to call chime in like cribbage Mike did five one, three, seven,

(13:26):
two three, talk pound five fifty on eight and t funds.
Even though I got I beat you at cribbage during
listener lunch last last week there, Mike, I I didn't
even mention to my listeners. I was so happy I
beat you. I just forgot to say it out loud. Anyway, Well,
went for a team, Brian.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
There's no reason to bring it up.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Ah. Yeah, Well, the the win loss of the ratio
is kind of really has been leaning in my favor
of late, although you're still far and away the winner
over all since we've been playing cribbage. Anyways, great senior
at lunch, Mike I hope you had as good a
time as I did, and.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Ah a good time to say it, by all. Absolutely
that was fabulous And listening to Corey and and Christopher
you know, just was the cherry on top.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, and I thought they both did a wonderful job.
And the next one if our folks that want to
show up at next listener Ludge High Green Brewery, brent
Wood location, that's November fifth, Mike, you're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
To make that one out there, yes, sir, good, all.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Right, what's on your mind? You didn't call in to
talk about me or let me float?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well?

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Before I get to my point, I couldn't help to tag,
you know, with the half brother hole comment that they're
driving down our throats so uh af tab like they
normally do. And I'm sure there were some Republican candidates
outside the Board of Elections there Norwood, but of course
they let Aft tab surrounded by his minions. But the
first the only thing that the little audio clip they

(14:43):
had was that he's going to defeat the MAGA movement.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
Now, when have.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
You ever heard Corey Bowman, Christopher Smith any of them
mentioned MAGA?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I know?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
And Joe Nacker sent me a campaign ad for Provoll
and it was a picture of JD. Vans and Trump
Maga versus I don't know, the Unity Group or whatever
the hell I have to have pro Ball is calling himself,
And so Joe suggested that was a sign that they're
getting worried over in the Provoll camp. I don't know
it has become in this at least they're waging the

(15:13):
Maga versus Provoll messaging. So whatever, it's obviously a lie.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
It's designed well when you got nothing else to run on,
you know, maybe gin up your base by that, you know.
And I'm sure you're going to mention the Fountain Square
shooting yesterday, so maybe there were no red bikes around,
so hopefully we don't have to inconvenience to But what
I did want to mention that is that I was
so disgusted with the capital d of the news coverage

(15:40):
in Manhattan and around the world for the pro Hamas
demonstrations on the second anniversary of the Israeli massacre. You know,
these useful idiots. I think they should be strapped into
chairs in an IMAX theater so they can be surrounded
and shown the raw footage of what occurred that day,
the heading, the murder, the abduction, mister Levin was on

(16:07):
yesterday and just and I'll just take his numbers for it,
but it kind of makes sense. Comparative numbers of the
size of our country to Israel would be two hundred
and fifty thousand Americans killed and forty thousand taken hostage.
Now we're just going to sit back with that type
of numbers and with the atrocities that took place that day.
And then these people got the nerve on the Integra.

(16:29):
Granted first Amendment to what you want to do, But
evil does not reside in Jerusalem, the White House or
in ice detention centers. Well, you know, there is pure
evils in this world and we're seeing it unleashed every
single day.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, and so your point about draving it down in
an imax theater, making them watch that, and something tells
me quite a few of them in the crowd would
look at that and say, the fulfillment of my dreams.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
This is on a one off wanting to wipe that
country off the face of the earth.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, it's a great point, Mike, It is really a
great point. But I don't know what to say about it, man,
I just don't get that the idea resonates largely. You
have crazy people that absolutely hate Jews period in the story.
They want to abolish and eradicate Israel from the river
to the sea. They just hate them, and that hatred's

(17:20):
never going to go away. But is that hatred shared
among the vast majority of people in the world or
even in the United States of America. I can only
pray that they represent a very slim minority. They're loud,
the squeaky wheel gets the grease. They project size and
strength because they're great at organizing, and they stay on
their crazy message. That doesn't mean they're actually strong, and

(17:43):
it doesn't mean they actually carry the way to popular opinion.
So I'm hanging my hat of optimism on that. Hope
good here in front of Mike. Thanks for your service
for our country, my submarine or friend. I'll look forward
to lunch Brentwood or High Grains Brentwood Location five thirty Wednesday,
Big picture with Jack added at seven oh five. Tom's

(18:03):
on a line five and three seven eight two three.
Talk real quick here though, because we talked about it
briefly there. Tom hold on two people are now in custody.
A shooting near Fountain Square Great Long East Sixth Street
Walnut Street happened yesterday in downtown yesterday afternoon in the daytime.
It was bright outside court. To police, one person was

(18:25):
shot and left with non life threatening injuries. Police said
the victim was uncooperative with officers and Fox nineteen reporting
Ken Korber Fop President. I think there's an extra letter
in there. It's Cober, not Korber. Joe expressed shock that
they got it that close. Ken Cover said there was

(18:46):
some kind of altercation. There were two people who apparently
both armed with guns, who shot each other. Do it
altsrested and connection with the incident in charged with felonius assault.
That's all the reporting we've got, although it is on
video widely circulated by mayor ol candidate Corey Bowman, who
really is not connected with the Vice president. Tom thanks

(19:09):
for calling this morning, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
That shooting is just a figment of your imagination.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It didn't really app happened.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
Crime is Crime is down in Cincinnati. Haven't you been
listening to our illustrious mayor.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
It was all artificial intelligence. The video was whole clop creation.

Speaker 8 (19:26):
Right, I don't know what are you guys are going on?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
And the bullet the bullet wounds also deep fague. You're
not injured. Walk it off.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Right, right, rub some dirt on it, ight. That's why
that that's why the alleged victim is is not cooperating, right,
because he might he might be uh if he even
votes at all, he might be voting from the mayor
for UH for AFTAB. So anyway, Yeah, the reason I
called is uh. I heard somebody say yesterday, I guess

(19:58):
adding on to my comm man about if I see
a D next to your name and you're running for office,
I kind of I believe you're not gonna do what
needs to be done. You're not going to take care
of take care of business the way it needs to be.
And the the comment in response to that was our
stood for a return to the past. Well, you know what,
some things we need to return to the.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Past, like classical classical education.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
Yeah, yeah, Like like enforcing the law the way it
should be, you know, stuff like that, Like it you
commit crime and after your oh I don't know, fifteenth
or twenty ath time committing the same crime, you know,
maybe maybe we should have put you in jail sooner.
Maybe we should stop letting people out on no bail

(20:46):
or whatever whatever these ridiculous rules are. These things these
activist judges come up with, I understand trying to help
people out and giving them a second chance, second, maybe third. Okay,
that's that's one or two chances. That's not eighteen or
I mean. I read a story the other day. Some

(21:08):
guy had ninety one felony.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
That's hilarious. I am staring at that article. Jory McAllister.
McAllister intoxicated when you ran a lead light, red light
and stolen car killing Elizabeth Flat sixty. He had ninety
one priors ninety one.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
That's insane, and that's okay. There are people that think
that that's all right. Come on now, you really don't
believe that you want this system the way the left
has it because you want to be able to get
away with whatever you're trying to get away with. I mean,
let's be honest with ourselves, folks. If we all lived

(21:47):
our lives the way the Democrats want the government to run,
it would be mass chaos, mass hysteria, everybody killing everybody
the wild West. That scene at the corner of Sixth
the walnut would be on virtually every corner. Come on,
we really don't want that. That's that you can't be
serious people. And then to pivot real quick to the

(22:09):
whole Trump blowing up drug dealers. Now, I'm not okay
with that, uh am. I okay with drug dealers getting
blown up, well sure, but I'm not okay with the
President of the United States authorizing it outside of our
of our jurisdiction. So put it on paper, let's get
it written and law, and then you follow the law.
I mean that that's what makes us human beings and

(22:32):
not animals, is we have a code of law that
we have written down. We all have to follow it.
And if we're gonna stand there and tell everybody, hey,
you guys, are you guys aren't law in order? We're
trying to be following the rule, well, well then you
gotta follow it. You gotta do it. You gotta give
show the example that you're gonna restrain yourself and you're
gonna keep yourself within the boundaries of the law, because

(22:53):
if you're not, then you're no better than anybody else.
And I don't want to say that about a Republican
or somebody who I'm mostly rooting for but it's it's
just wrong to do that. Yeah, it's not. It's not okay,
it's outside the law. But you know, as I've said
before and many others, don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat.

(23:14):
There's your solution. Have a great day.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
At minimum, and we may argue all day long about
whether there is such a thing under our constitution called
an authorization for use of military force, but at least
that has the stripe of congressional approval. I think, at minimum,
get an authorization for use of military force to go
against the cartels and see if that stands up to
the test of perhaps a legal challenge. But at least

(23:39):
it wouldn't be the unilateral action of a lone man
wielding the power of the American military at will and
without any checks and balance. It's five thirty six right now.
If you have ks the talk station, plumb time plumbing,
it's always plumbing done right If I k the talk
station by forty one, Happy Wednesday. Oh look, stack is stupid,

(24:01):
and right now no phone calls. Take phone calls. Its
been a while since we did a stack is stupid.
I enjoyed the conversation. I do enjoy doing a stack
of stupid in five o'clock hours. Good time to do it,
help wake up and well, thank God that you're not
in it. Joetrekker is not in the stack of stupid,
never been there, neither of I. But then again, as
editorial director of the fifty five Carecen morning show, I

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probably wouldn't read his story about myself. No, actually I
would anyway. A police officer and his businessman businesswoman wife
dad after a heat stroke. They got into an overheated
hot tub while drunk and high on cocaine celebrating their
four year old daughter's birthday, No question about it. This
is in Brazil. Military cop Jefferson Louis Sagas thirty seven

(24:47):
and his mail salon owning partner Anna Carolina Silva, forty
one found dead in the motel in Brazilian state of
Santa Catarina in the earlier part of August. A couple
spent the day celebrating their daughter birthday, drinking alcohol and
doing lines of cocaine, then went to a nightclub and
then checked into the Dallas motel about midnight, when they
failed to pick up their daughter The next day, relatives

(25:09):
were a little alarmed. They reported the para missing and
their bodies were found in the motel bathtub. Thorti's ruled
heat stroke caused death, but that the cocaine and alcohol
in their blood probably dulled their reactions because they do
the severe heat water in the bathtub one hundred and
twenty two degrees fahrenheit. A space heater in the room
also turned up to high according to investigators, Chief medical

(25:32):
Ezambers said the cause of both this was exogenous poisoning,
favoring the process of heat stroke with intense dehydration, thermal
collapse culminating in organ failure and death.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
According to doctor Fernando Olivea de Fronsaka, speaking with the paper,
the use of cocaine, which indoses alone could cause torpor
drowsiness even in an individual, combined with alcohol, which also
causes in high such as torpor, coma and drowsiness. Torpor
apparently a state of physical dormancy similar to hibernation, where

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the body's metabolic rate slows considerably. Further examination of the
hotel room, the couple's car security cameras carried out forensic
or forensic reports were able to rule out carbon monoxide, drowning,
electric shock, as well as anybody else being involved in
the deaths, pointing to cocaine, alcohol, and ridiculously hot hot tub.

(26:33):
It's rather strange.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You got a four year old.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
See you leave her, apparently with relatives, and you go
out and do drugs and alcohol. Well, dry alcohol is
a drug. Go out and do drugs with your partner,
you moron. Doesn't make any sense to me. Then again,
I consider myself slightly more traditional. Nashville, Tennessee. A skydiving
instructor now dead after falling from a plane without a parachute.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Screws fall all the time. The world's in im perfect place.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Indeed, just tracker or Metro Nashville Police. A thirty five
year old Justin Robert Fuller and a forty six year
old sky having student got stuck on the side of
the plane in a tandem rig. The late Fuller then
became separated from the student and fell from the sky
sands parachute. Student's emergency parachute deployed and he got lodged

(27:24):
in a tree in a wooded area. Police found the
forty six year old student and he was safely rescued. Fuller, however,
found dead later the same day in a wooded area.
FAA is leading this investigation. Jeez, I guess what the hell.
I had a neighbor of mine who was in a
late high school maybe early college age. He's it is solo.

(27:45):
His first jump, the main choot didn't open, got tangled up,
and I think about that. I was like, first time out.
This is going back a long time. I guess they
used to let people deploy by themselves back then. I
think you have to do the tandem thing first. But
what I know, I would never do it, But that
would be a short soiling moment in time on my

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first jump if the main shoot got tangled up and
I had to rely on the back of five forty
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seven point thirty. Congressman Thomas Massei'd eight oh five on

(28:27):
the shutdown and what is the status of the Epstein
file vote. Haven't been hearing about that much lately. We'll
find out from Congressman Massy and then Judge Jenmen of
paul Atano coming up at eight thirty. Let's see here,
back to the stupid stack, we go to Florida firefighter
accused of stalking after she allegedly dumped seventy five and,

(28:48):
according to the police report, quote possibly used close quote
tampons under her ex boyfriend's lawn after she learned he
was dating a new woman. Do what coupled with just
walk away? Flosa County Sheriff's office is contacted by a
woman September thirty fifter she and her boyfriend woke up
finding a pile of tampons on the front lawn that

(29:12):
were quote stained red as if they were possibly used
to close quote. Security camera footage they've got that showed
a pickup truck driving past the house ten PM in
late September. Woman allegedly sat in the truck bed until
the traffic cleared, at which point she jumped out and
threw the aforementioned seventy five tampons in the front yard.
The couple asked why they believed who they believe was

(29:32):
behind the crime. They said, well, Gabrielle Franz. She's a
firefighter with the Orange County Fire rescue and the ex
girlfriend of the guy living in the home. They said
it was likely her quote demonstrating she was unhappy close
quote that the ex boyfriend was now dating somebody else.
They claimed she previously made multiple social media ploths talking
badly about them, and the fact that they are together

(29:54):
now just didn't you have anything better to do with
your life anyway? That's the weather in the stack of stupid.
Thank you, Joe. See what Jay's got this morning, Jay,
Happy Wednesday. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (30:13):
Hey, happy eighth day of independence.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
From federal government.

Speaker 9 (30:17):
Brian, I ran the math for you this morning, and
we are up to thirty seven billion dollars of discretionary
spending being saved. And again the way I've come up
with that number, everybody's free to check my math. Take
one point seven trillion, that's the annual discretionary spending. Divide

(30:37):
that by three hundred and sixty five, then multiply that
by how many days, like times eight, and you come
up with that thirty seven billion. I heard Mike Johnson,
I think it was him yesterday whining about the Democrats
have to end this shutdown, to end the suffering of
the American people and I wanted to call and just

(30:59):
check on you, my brother, to say if you're how
you're weathering the storm with this government shut down, and
you hear me laughing, Are you doing okay?

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Do just fine? Over the Thomas household. I have my life.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
He looks a car off or is he acting? Is
he off today?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
No?

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah, I've been. I pulled around the corner of the
parking garage every single day before I see his parking space.
I have this little little hint of worry that I'm
gonna come around the corner and his car is not
going to be there, at which point I will freak
out unless he's told me ahead of time he's not
gonna be a it. No, it was there, parked in
the exact same spot, in the exact same position, and
I'm staring at the top of his melon through my
video screen. He looks like he's in perfectly good health

(31:40):
and in good order.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I don't I don't understand that at all. I don't
know how you guys just weather.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
This, this this withering attack that you know, this suffering
is going on. But yeah, there's no suffering. And that's
what I want everybody to realize, is this government these
full time jobs don't need to be full time job.
The people that want them to be full time jobs
are in those full time jobs. And to Tom's point,
you know, some things would be nice if.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
We can go back.

Speaker 9 (32:09):
Let's go back to the debate on Obamacare when it
first came around and we first had a chance to
get rid of it, the discussion was how do we
repeal it? And then later on it was, well, how
you know we're going to pass the Republican this is
another Republican victory.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Then it changed to.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
Not just repeal it, it was repeal and replace. And
now we can't.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Even have done that.

Speaker 9 (32:32):
Now we can't do anything but continue to fund more
of it and hand more of the healthcare over to
the Republican Or did the Democrats to the federal government
and give them just a larger and larger and larger
share of the means of production in this case healthcare?

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Right? And they want this as a mechanism to get
one size fits all, basically medicaid for all it's been.
But they're practically on records saying exactly that that was
the point of way. The premiums if you make something
look free when it truly isn't. But if you make
it look free, you're going to increase the number of
people on the ranks. And so then they doubled it
with the COVID nineteen emergency as a pretext. That's what

(33:09):
gave you gave rise to the premium waivers. It doubled
the roles on the on the Obamacare exchange and all
those people. Yeah, and they want them to every day.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Everything they do, Convince Everett Ellison, everything they do looks
like it.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Sounds like it is. Few slaves.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
Get back on your get back on the plantation. You
give us all of your power, all of your authority.
Forget about what the constitution says, these aren't God given rights,
and we'll take care of you if you're good slaves.
And that's the difference.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Again.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
I want to keep making that point between a liberal
and a conservative, or to your point, a libertarian. A
libertarian conservative would say, I don't want I'm not going
to be a slave. I'm a citizen. You work for me.
I don't work for you.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Not a slave.

Speaker 9 (34:02):
I'm a citizen and I want minimal amount of you
in my life. I'll make my own choices. I can
take the two hours and call convercency. I can have
that conversation and very quickly I can figure out that
there are many options better than Obamacare and have somebody
put it there in black and white in front of me.
Or I can sit there and watch TV and do

(34:22):
nothing and wait for somebody to take care of me,
because I'll be a slave. And that's what it comes
down to. So whatever you do, don't vote Democrat, don't
vote Rhino.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
There you have it. Then the Rhinos are the ones
that will capitulate. And they've already been talking about a
one year extension on the premium waivers. That's a step
in the wrong direction. I say, hold fast in your position.
You're in the right position. Thanks very much, Jay always,
you appreciate hearing from you. Stick around. We've got more
to talk about in the six o'clock hour, and I
love hearing from you, whoever you are. I want three, seven, four, nine,

(34:52):
fifty five, eight hundred and eighty two to three talk
stick around today.

Speaker 10 (34:56):
It's tough headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
These changes every minute fifty five krz.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
The talk station.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Chicago is a hell all right.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Now, free healthcare, the illegal.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Aliens listen here Gotland is on fire.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
No everything, you.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Fifty five KRZ the Talk station.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's six six to five KRCD Talks Station, Happy Wednesday
by Thomas looking forward to seven o'clock hour, Fast Forward
one hour for the Big Picture with Jack added an
interesting uh subject matter for his commentary today the Communist
NFL can't wait to hear Jack's words on that, and
filed by Donald and Neil from Americans for Prosperity launching

(35:39):
a new campaign Make Government Work. There's a lot of
comedy built into that, Donovan. I just have to point
that out ahead of time. Anyway, it sounds like an
uphill challenge. As up for the challenge. Congressman must Matthew
Fast eight oh five talk about shutdown and the mystery
of where in the hell is the conversation on Epstein,
the Epstein's files vote, we'll go over with the Congress Nassy.

(36:01):
I just find it rather well. It's not surprising that
that sort of disappeared from mainstream media reporting or any
reporting on that. And here's Brian Thomas wondering what the
hell's wrong with the Trump administration and why they continue
to want to hide these files after saying and telling
us and campaigning on the fact that they'd be released.
A little bit of a letdown on that one. I
think I share Congressman Maassy's concerns and that and that's

(36:21):
why I'm hoping he moves forward with a vote an
opportunity that Democrats had for four years under the Biden administration,
which they didn't exercise. Judge Enninopolitano at eight thirty when
presidents kill, of course, that will be about the launching
of missile strikes against cartels, and we'll also talk about

(36:42):
this new Justice Department of opinion from the Office of
Legal Counsel, which tells the Trump administration that he has
the authority, based upon the imminent threat that they pose,
he has the authority to launch military operations against them.
I am extraordinarily troubled by that. Going back to the point,

(37:04):
at least at minimum, and I would argue that authorizations
for use of military force are not quite a declaration
of war and not within the Constitution, but at minimum,
and authorization for use of military force should be required
when we're using military force, some checks and balances. I
just envision a new administration, perhaps under the Democrat side

(37:25):
of the equation, And are you going to be comfortable
with them picking and choosing what represents an eminent threat?
How do you define that anyway? I mean, you can
look up the definition of eminine. But I puzzle over
how a tiny boat, eleven foot boat, fifteen foot boat,
twenty foot boat, let's say, a fifty foot boat going
ten to fifteen knots max. In miles thousands of miles away,

(37:48):
how that could in any way, shape or form, constitute
an imminent threat. And they're also talking about starting to
launch strikes in Venezuela in side the country. And listen,
and Trump is not the only one who have done this.
Obama did it, the Bush, Bush did it. Trump did

(38:09):
in his first administration. Biden launched these unilateral missile strikes.
It's I unchecked military power in the hands of one person.
That is not what I read in my constitution five three, seven,
four nine fifty five eight hundred and eight two three ten,
five fifty on eight and t phones. Yes, the National
Guard has deployed two hundred troops Texas National Guard. Two

(38:31):
hundred of them arrived in Illinois, Chicago, over the objections
of of course, the mayor and the governor shout up
in Illinois yesterday to protect federal personnel and property. It's
a good point to emphasize why are they there. They're
not there enforcing local laws. How the police departments not
even enforcing local laws. It is battery. It is a

(38:53):
state crime to beat up a federal officer. No, it's
a federal crime as well. But they do an obligation
to people in their juris diction to prosecute them, arrest
them for breaking the law. Don't look for help from
the Chicago Police Department under the current governor and mayor
there anyway. Pentagon officials said the guardsmen were motialized for
a sixty day period, of course, subject to legal challenges

(39:15):
which are inevitable. They said the troops arrived in Illinois
in support of Federal Protection Mission initial cap on that
to protect federal functions, personnel, and property very limited in scope.
They have the right to do that. Department of Homeland
Security Secretary Christie nomannounced over the weekend that additional special
Operations personnel would in fact be deployed to Illinois, in

(39:37):
spite of the fact that the lawsuit in Portland didn't
go on the side of the federal government. Brandon Johnson,
the mayor of Chicago, said yesterday he believes the deployment
is illegal, unconstitutional, dangerous, and wrong. Of course, we had
the declaration on Monday from the mayor declaring ice free zones,
which prohibit federal immigration agents from using city owned proper

(40:00):
for immigration enforcement operations. That just throws a logistical hurdle
in their direction. You can't park on city property. Whether
or not that's enforceable or lawful remains to be seen,
and that, of course is going to have to be
worked out in the court system as well. Johnson in
a news conference earlier this week, the Trump administration must
end the war on Chicago. Is that what this is.

(40:24):
The trouble administration must end this war against Americans. That's
what this is. The trumble administration must end its attempt
to dismantle our democracy. You can't get a statement from
a Democrat that doesn't include that one anymore. How is
this a threat of democracy? Remember who they're going after
and pivot over to Los Angeles. Lots of objections to

(40:46):
the federal government going in and arresting illegal immigrants, the
criminal element among them bad. We can't have that here,
That is ver Boden. We didn't ask for your presence here.
Get the hell out. Oh but what about this one?
I suppose it just depends on what type of operation
they are working on, whether or not local law enforcement
will work with the FEDS, and in fact they do.

(41:09):
Just announce federal and local law enforcement officers in Los
Angeles arrested fourteen suspected leaders of the Rancho San Pedro gang.
There's one of those. Just yesterday happened in Los Angeles.
This is following a year's long investigation in what the
FBI called one of the most violent street crews in

(41:29):
southern California, as well as being a known arm of
the Mexican mafia Cash Bettel. The era of cartels operating
freely in America is over. Every day the FBI and
our partners in this case, local law enforcement LAPD are
dismantling violent networks at the source, stripping their resources, taking

(41:52):
criminals off the street, and saving American lives. Not the
emphasis I choose occasionally. If you're living in La do
you want the Cho San Pedro gang engaging in criminal
activity in your backyard? Of course, you don't. You want
the Los Angeles Police Department and any other law enforcement
agency to round them up and prosecuting for their crimes.

(42:15):
That seems logical and reasonable, investigators said, the PROB uncovered
links between the Rancho San Pedro and the Sineloa Cartel,
as well as something called the Thirteenth Street Gang, which
our groups is described in the reporting, which worked together
to distribute methamphetamine, fentanyl, and heroin all around southern California,
and of course all the criminal activity, including yes, murders

(42:36):
that go along with that. They said, the takedown hit
a gang that has five hundred members approximately across six
clicks that they say, pay in their word, taxes to
Mexican mafia bosses. So what does this sound like a
coordinated activity involving committing crimes?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Just please, Chief Jim McDonald, praise the Harbor Division detectives
for building a case step by step, look and working
with the federal authorities to attack these dangerous gangs. And
here it is, lo and behold the federal complaint charges
thirty defendants under RICO Racketeer Influence Corrupt Organizations. And I've

(43:21):
been claiming this and pointing this out for a long
long time. A couple of people or more working together
in concert to commit court law of violating the law.
That's rico. It's called organized crime. And a lot of
organizations out there may be staring a rico case in
the face, like for example, Antifa and those huge, multi

(43:42):
billionaire funded organizations that fuel and perhaps will find out
when the investigation's over and maybe some indictments are handed down,
coordinate criminal activity on the streets of our country. So
you got a rico charge against this. Acting US Attorney
Bill Asali in a statement, the case shows the power
of partnerships. California Attorney General Robin Bonta said the raids

(44:09):
took illegal weapons and dangerous drugs off the streets. So
local law enforcement, working hand in hand with federal law enforcement,
were successful in bringing federal charges against an extraordinarily dangerous gang.
And isn't that really boiled down kind of what ICE
agents are doing. Every day we read of arrest involving

(44:30):
gang members who are in our country illegally, gang members
with criminal records, gang members who are continuing to distribute
ventanyl and other drugs, and of course wield threats of
violence in various neighborhoods across this country, and there they
are in the streets protesting that kind of law enforcement,

(44:52):
law enforcement that gets bad people off the streets and
improves the quality of neighborhoods. Is this a war on
Chicago or are they waging a war against those who
are literally waging a war on Chicago. I'm gonna go
with the latter. Five one three seven eighty two three
talk feel free to call and chime in more to
talk about beyond the phone calls and another word five

(45:16):
one three seven fifty five hundred eight timpty two to
three talk found five fifty on eighth and phones after
said people were people were more better at critical thinking,
they could see through the some of the nonsense, and
maybe people do. I still stay in Chicago on this one.
You got Governor Pritzker. Earlier this week, Pritzker said there's been,
in his words, unconstitutional invasion of Illinois by the federal

(45:39):
government for weeks now. Donald Trump, Christine nom and Gregory
Bovino have brought their militarized CBP and ICE agents to
the streets of Chicago to cause violence and chaos in
the city. Oh, is that what they're doing? That's what
it's all about. Uh? Countering that message, referring to Pritsker's

(46:03):
comments as a schmorgasb board of lies. They issued a
retort on that. So here's further to Pritzker's statements. President
Trump has the authority under the Constitution to devoid troops
wherever they're stationed to defend the federal facilities from attacks.

(46:26):
That's what the DHS said in response to Pritzker's first
claim on the list, whether it's the ice facility in
Broadview or the courthouse in Portland, we will defend federal
property wherever they're under siege. Pritsker in his appearance on
CNN on Monday. People are getting detained, they're getting arrested
US citizens. They did this when they raided the building
in the middle of the night on the South Shore,

(46:46):
one hundred and thirty people. They were emptied out of
this building. They were going after a few gang members,
and instead they broke windows, they broke down doors, and
they ransacked the place. They're the ones that are making
it a war zone. I BUTLI believe it is because
they were resisting. And if your whole up in a building,
law enforcement tends to do stuff like that. But DHS
in response to that nonsense, said, the following law enforcement

(47:08):
conducted a targeted operation at an apartment building in South
Shore Community, Chicago. Fair enough, this operation, conducted by the
CBPFBI and the ATF, resulted in the arrest of thirty
seven illegal aliens from countries like Venezuela, Mexico, Columbia, Nigeria,
among them Trey the Aragua gang members and violent criminals,

(47:29):
the ones that they were initially going after. DHS has
routinely debunked the absurd claim that the DHS is targeting
US citizens during ICE operations. ICE does not arrest or
deport US citizens. Really, what about all the reports of
US citizens being arrested. Here's the follow up point to
that any US citizen arrested. Citizens arrested are because of

(47:54):
obstructing or assaulting law enforcement. What's going on. Protests are
going on the tind to obstruct an interfere with the
FEDS doing the business of rounding up gang members and
criminals among the illegal immigrant community. That's what they're doing.
So if you interfere, you're gonna get arrested. Oh my god,
a US citizen's getting caught up in the ICE raids.

(48:16):
They're going after US citizens. Well, you got to look
beyond the veneer of that blanket statement to see why
they were arrested in the first place. Illinois Governor earlier
this week, on September twelfth, I shot and killed a
man of Franklin, part a nearby suburb of Chicago. His
name was Silverio. The Legas Gonzalez reports say that he

(48:36):
just had dropped off his kids at a daycare and
was headed to work. That's Governor Pritzker's take on it.
DHS countered Gonzales was an illegal alien who, when law
enforcement ordered him to stop his car, instead drove his
car at the officers. One of the ice officers was
hit by the car and dragged a significant distance. Fearing

(48:56):
for his own life in the broader public safety, the
officer fired as well. Despite his injuries. The officer and
his partner immediately started administering emergency medical care to the
illegal alien, who was pronounced dead. The Legas Gonzales, who
was the target of the operation, was a criminal criminal
illegal alien with the history of reckless driving and further
reckless driving, as illustrated by the fact that he drove

(49:18):
directly at officers, resulting in them needing to defend themselves. See,
but if you just live in an echo chamber, you
listen only what Governor Pritzker is saying, you think that
the world has fallen apart, there's a counter narrative factored
into the equation. Before drawing your conclusion. Six twenty five

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fifty five KRC DE Talk Station Local Stories coming up.
Six point thirty fifty five KRC the Talk station. Dust
off your skull ring CD and play a little iggy
pop there and launch into some local stories. Phone calls
are welcome here in the fifty five KRC morning Show,

(50:00):
but in the absence there, oh, we'll go to the
local stories we do at the bottom of the hour.
Two people in custody after yet another shooting YEP. Yesterday
sixth Street in Walnut Street in the afternoon during daylight.
One person was shot and left with non life threatening injuries.
Police said the victim uncooperative with officers. Although they spelled

(50:21):
his name wrong, we all knew who FOP President Ken
cober Is. He said there was some kind of altercation.
Two people, both armed with guns, shot at each other.
Adults have been arrested. Two adults have been arrested in
connection with the incident, in charge with felonious assault. Nothing
to see here. Interestingly enough, it's all captured on video.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
We go.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
I've got a woman dead in a suspect arrested for
murder since a police said Rachel Counts, twenty three years old,
found shot after police say officers responded to King's Run
Court in Winton Hills on Sunday around quarter to ten
pm or quarter to eleven pm. Counts died at the
scene life saving measures. Police announced earlier this week, twenty
three year old Omarion Horne has been arrested in charge

(51:07):
with murdering accounts. Homicide Unit is still investigating. They do
need your help with the investigation. Anybody with information contact
the Homicide Unit three five two thirty five forty two
or I think I always can default with Crime Stoppers
at three five two thirty forty help them solve that crime.

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This is a sad one we got. A molar high
school student has died after being hospitalized after a hit
and run crash that happened over the weekend. According to
a family member, fifteen year old Dylan Strawn passed away.
According to the announcement from the family, Dylan was and
always will be the most strongest and kindest and selfless
human out there. And he was, and he was and

(51:47):
still will do amazing things for this world. As we
as a family with multiple struggles throughout life, genuinely appreciate
the way the community came together to support us. Thank
you as the least I can say to everyone who
has supported us. Can you imagine being a parent in
that situation? According to about one pm on Sunday, corn Police
were called to the area of Coal Rain Road and
Day Road who reported accident. Officers arrived at the scene

(52:12):
to find the teen unconscious but breathing. The teen appeared
to be riding a bike when he was hit by
a vehicle. Coring Township Department of Fire and EMS took
the fifteen year old to UC Medical Center. A township
spokesperson said the teen had life threatening injuries clearly ten
pm Sunday, almost twenty four hours after the team was hit,
the vehicle that crashed into him was found. Driver of

(52:33):
the vehicle identified, but the township spokesperson did not release
the name yet. No other information has been released. Corner
to the spokesperson, were conducting a thorough investigation into all
factors that may have contributed to this awful accident. Prayers
with the family during this extremely difficult time. If you
have any information, Coal Rain Police would love to hear
from you on that five one three, three two one
twenty six seventy seven Coal Rain Police. And of course

(52:56):
there is a go fundme page if you want to
support the family on that. Well, it's coming our way
and it's going to bring about a lot of chaos. Finally,
here after how many presidents campaigned to build or redo
the Brent Spenz Bridge, O DOT told council that the
construction of the three point six billion dollar brand Spenz
Bridge QUARDA projects going to begin in early twenty twenty six.

(53:20):
The day has finally come, O DOT and sincinn Department
of Transportation and Engineering gave council members a new timeline.
O DOT to Tommy Ardold said, it's honestly a very
rare thing in the nation. There aren't many double decker
bridges around. There aren't that many cable bridges. Although it's
kind of state of the art bridge design, and so
it's going to be exciting thing to see when we

(53:40):
ultimately see it. They said. The work schedule is being
developed now. The schedule is being developed now. Interesting. I'll
give props to Mike Show reporting Fox nineteen. The bridge
design will be sixty percent complete by this fall. They
haven't even completed the design yet. They're supposed to. Okay anyway,

(54:03):
Arnold said, it's going to be interesting to get the
work going, lots of changes. Is going to be just
a heapload of cranes down there. I get a kick
out of this. Not everyone on board with a three
point six billion dollar project, one single loan Hamilton County resident.
They found a guy named Bob Hyland who doesn't like
the idea. We have air pollution in the city of

(54:23):
Cincinnati that is very damaging to human health, especially for
the black and brown folks who live in the West
End in Queen's Gate. Hey, Joe, doesn't Corey Bowman live
in the West End? Yeah? Uh, he's a white guy,
isn't he. Oh the air pollution doesn't affect him. Oh,
I didn't know that, Hm. Is he like a bubble boy? Anyway?

(54:49):
He went on to say, so the Department of Transportation
doubling down on Highway Lane miles is going to further
the amount of pollution in those communities. Breathe deep the
air it flows from the atmosphere around China or LA.
This is an opportunity to provide feedback on design and
progress of the bridge. It's reported OH DOT will answer

(55:11):
questions on October twenty first and October twenty third at
Longworth Hall. So if you have any questions, show up
and make your voice heard. Six thirty five right now,
should make your voice heard right here in the morning showfield.
It's six forty right now. If you have k CD
talk station, have a Wednesday. Maybe nobody wants to talk

(55:36):
to me today. If you do five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three talk. Uh,
you know it's just last week. I'm you were told
it was coming. Oh Officer Management Budget Director, along with
Donald Trump, we're talking about layoffs. Carolyn Levett, the White
House Press Secretary, came out and said layoffs were eminent,

(55:56):
pointing out that well, because the Democrats shut down the government,
the President has directed the Cabinet of the Office Management
Budget and working with agencies across the board to identify
where cuts can be made, and we believe that layoffs
are eminent. So there you were told about that just
recently and yesterday during a press conference, which was really comical.
Donald Trump with the Canadian Prime minister and they're talking

(56:16):
about tariffs and all the report I just heard it
on the radio. All the reporters just scream and questions
all over the top of each other, at the top
of their lungs. Trump takes every opportunity to just go
on and on and on and on. He rambled off
a litany of all his accomplishments. He went back to
the election and talk about the landslide. He talked about
all the economic improvements, the trillions of dollars have been

(56:38):
invested since he took office, just at every turn, which
I kind of found comical. That's not my sort of style,
but that's this is Donald Trump. So of course, the
conversation pivoted over to the impending firings alluded to by
the OMB, and the Press secretary told reporters, well, if

(57:04):
the government shutdown continues, that those firings will be announced
in the next four or five days. One reporter who
was able to get a question out there that actually
Trump hurt how many permanent jobs are you talking about eliminating?

Speaker 8 (57:20):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (57:20):
His a response, I'll be able to tell you that
in four or five days. If this keeps going on,
the shutdown, it will be substantial and a lot of
those jobs will never come back. You're going to have
a lot closer to a balanced budget. When asked if
he'd identified specific programs or people who wanted to eliminate,
he said, oh, sure, we have a lot. I'm not
going to tell you yet, but we'll be announcing it

(57:42):
pretty soon. But we have a lot of things that
we are going to eliminate and permanently eliminate. Said, you know,
one of the things that we have some advantage, you
could say, but because of the shutdown, which I think
may made a big mistake, we're able to take out
billions and billions of dollars of waste fraud and they've
handed it, you know, to us on a silver platter.

(58:03):
There's a lot of truth built into that. Well, if
I had a comical I'm just asking Joe, I couldn't
remember which day, the eighteenth. Apparently there this big Democrat rally.
They're gonna get everybody out there. Of course, I'm sure
the billionaires are going to coordinate an effort pay protesters
to show up I'm sure there will be a massive
showing of thousands of people demanding that they continue these
premium discounts. Are basically handing over Obamacare quote unquote for free,

(58:27):
which means you and I are paying for it. They
want an extension of these COVID nineteen relief was what
it was all about, which doesn't exist anymore. But if
Trump announces the firings, and it will be subject to
legal challenge, I will acknowledge that. But if he announces
all these people being fired within four or five days,

(58:49):
I'm just wondering how the Democrats are going to react,
because of course he's beating them to the punch. I mean,
to extent their protest bears any fruit, and it causes
some republic plans to perhaps waiver in their refusal to
extend these premium supplements. That's one thing. But if Trump
gets out in front of it and fires these people,

(59:10):
perhaps they will have no ability to come back to work.
That'll knock the Democrats back. I mean, we are talking
about draining the swamp here, so popcorn out. We'll see
how the strategy plays out. I still say the Republicans
are on the winning side. But all of these rumblings
about perhaps some Republicans wavering again. I read an article

(59:31):
earlier this morning suggesting that maybe they are willing to
extend the premium supplements for another year. Democrats not yet
interested in that. They want them permanently extended. But if
you back and you go ahead and extend them for
another year, I'm just wondering what that buys you. Yes,
it does. It buys you another conversation along the exact

(59:52):
same lines next year, when yet another deadline built into
legislation fast approaches. Much like the Democrats language extending these
supplements only till the end of this calendar year. They're
the ones that set them up for this. Apparently they
thought it was appropriate to end these when the COVID
nineteen threat had well moved on. Six forty five and

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it has. If you haven't gotten the memo, five three
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right now, fifty five Kersey Talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
So looking forward to the top of the hour news
being over because you get to hear from Jack Attude.
It's time for the Big Picture with Jack Atherdan today.
I just can't wait for this. The Communist NFL Donald
and Neil from Americans for Prosperity shows up at seven
point thirty to talk about something else. That is I'm
laughing about the campaign make Government work?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Hmm?

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Is that even possible? I will ask him and Congressman
Thomas Massey fast forward to eight oh five. We'll talk
shut down. We'll also talk about the mysterious disappearing Epstein vote.
Will we have a vote to release the Epstein files.
I know he's backing that effort. I'm firmly behind Congressman
Massey in that effort. And of course, as I've said
many times, kind of disappointed in the Trump administration for
the one eighty it did in connection with those documents.

(01:01:08):
Judge and an Apolitano question mark when or the column tonight.
We have a little bit more to talk about with
the Judge when presidents kill talking about the striking of
those of Venezuela and Narco terraces. And we also have
that new opinion from the Office of Legal Counsel which
apparently gives Trump carte blank, carte blanche authority to launch
military strikes wherever he damn well pleases, as long as

(01:01:29):
he makes a declaration of eminent threat. I'm still waiting
for someone to call me up and tell me how
a boat one fifteen hundred maybe two thousand miles away
and not a very big boat can represent an eminent
threat to the United States. We do have a Coastguard.
When they get close, dropping off drugs may present an
eminent threat, but that will be our waters, our coastal

(01:01:50):
waters taken care of by the law enforcement on waters,
which is the Coast Guard. They regularly arrest drug dealers
and prosecute them in a court of law where they'll
get a lawyer and they'll get due process, and then
they'll get locked up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
The judge on that topic coming up and going back to,
you know, Governor Pritskers in Illinois comments about, you know,
the the chaos that has been unleashed by the federal
government and going and attacking US citizens and arresting US citizens.
Here we go great illustration of this. If you're a
US citizen and you're arrested, according to the Department of

(01:02:25):
Homeland Security, it's because you committed a crime, not because
you're a US citizen who had just happened to be
in the wrong place at the wrong time. Here's an
illustration and an eye opening one too, a professor at
the University of Chicago. Go ahead and try to get
your kid in the University of Chicago. Check out your tuition,
then remember that we have this kind of professor teaching you.

(01:02:47):
Resting on Friday, charge with following riots and immigrations and
Customer Enforcement Center authorities, said Amon abdel Hadie. She's an
associate professor, and get a load. What the hell is
this the Department of Comparative and Human Development. I have

(01:03:11):
no idea what that is. Anyway, they have a department there,
and this is an associate professor within that mysterious department.
Charged with two counts of aggravated battery against the government employee,
which is a felony. Two counts of resisting or obstructing
peace officers at protest outside the ICE sight in Chicago crimes.

(01:03:31):
Since it's not mentioned in the reporting that a. Aiman
abdel Hattie is an illegal immigrant, so I'm gonna assume
that she is not usually widely reported when ICE picks
up someone and arrests them that, in addition to being
engaged in criminal activity resulting in the arrest, they also
happen to be in here illegally. That was not mentioned,

(01:03:54):
as for the professor described as a radical sociologist. A
radical sociologist okay, at least the New York Post described
her as such. They posted pictures from the rally on Friday,
accusing Illinois state troopers of enforcing President Trump's agenda of

(01:04:16):
terrorizing our community with abductions. Huh, she's previously accused. Well,
her own employer. Get a load of this talk about
biting the hands that feed you. What a total radical?
Her employer, the University of Chicago. She was at a
Socialism twenty twenty five conference blank f word the University
of Chicago. My employer. It's evil, you know, it's a

(01:04:39):
colonial landlord. Like, why would I put any of my
political energy into this space? Huh? I kind of had
a little bit of disdain for people who spend their
time doing that. Now unpackaged that she's talking about her employer. Okay,

(01:05:03):
I think the saling point is here. US citizen professor
at a distinguished university arrested for committing a crime, not
for being a US citizen in the wrong place at
the wrong time. Annie Real quickly here to show what

(01:05:24):
actually can be done in a government shutdown, Republicans yesterday
approved more than one hundred Trump nominees. They've been held
up now for months, but they had a rule change
over in the Senate which allows them to fast track
these folks. So it's a whole bunch of folks. And
it's not just judges, it's like ambassadors to the Bahama,

(01:05:45):
the ambassador to India. Those are approved, a variety of
other people will approved, but in one unanimous or in
one vote. So my understanding is the rule change allows
a lot of these to be just sort of pushed
through under one single votes. He got one hundred plus
appointees or nominees one single vote cast, all of them approved,

(01:06:08):
a total of one hundred and seven. So congratulations, he
actually got something done during your government shutdown. I'm just
asking an out loud question, rhetorical as it may be.
Are they working on the twelve appropriation bills right now?
Because if they ultimately hammer out and we get a
continuing resolution, let's say next week, I mean the expiration
dates like in November, in the middle of November, so

(01:06:32):
we're gonna be revisiting the exact same thing now. If
they don't get the twelve appropriations done by the next
deadline that they're arguing about now for the past week. Yeah,
Big Picture with Jack Avdan after the top of the
our news, we're gonna find out about the communist NFL together.

Speaker 10 (01:06:47):
Stick around today's top story.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
It's seven to six on a Wednesday. It is that
time when we get to hear the brilliance of our
friend Jack Avidy, and it's time for the Big Picture
with Jack Avidy. And I was really intrigued about your
subject matter. Welcome back, Jack, Always great having you on
the show.

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
Thank you for having me backpal. As you know, my
favorite sport is what Howard Cosell used to call the
National Football League. That was back when we were kids
and the NFL was just another big business, not today's
death star. Wait what did he say? Yeah, who's being

(01:07:34):
killed by the NFL? Well, certainly not the owners. Mike
Brown and his thirty one NFL partners are expected to
rake in twenty three billion dollars this year. Easy and
all the other businesses living off the NFL they're doing
okay too. From TV networks that, as we've discussed Brian

(01:07:55):
are being kept alive by football to the makers of
NFL Jersey another year. Most of it made in communists China,
to gambling palaces and bookies, right down to the mascots.
I have spotted who Day in costume at some of
Cincinnati's swankiest restaurants with a whole bevy of Bengal cheerleaders.

(01:08:18):
It's good to be connected with the NFL. But crazy
as it sounds, Brian, cruel as it sounds, the guys
who are being killed by the NFL are some of
the league's best players, the ones who go number one
in the draft. And that's because when it comes to
the draft, pro football owners agree with your favorite saying

(01:08:41):
my friend from Karl Marx, from each that is, from
each draft prospect, according to his ability to each meaning
to each bad team owner, according to his needs. For leftists,
we don't follow football because it's too brutal. Let me
explain how this works. American football seeks parody among its

(01:09:05):
thirty two teams. It's a worthy goal. So the NFL
spreads young talent around by letting teams with the worst
records get the highest picks in the draft. That's great
for the losing teams, especially if they are perennially losing teams,
but it banishes the most coveted college players to Siberia

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otherwise known as pick them, the Jets, the Panthers, and
with some exceptions, we've had some good seasons. But over
the course of decades our Bengals there's a reason that
nationally they are known as the Bungals. Teams with owners
who know less about football than how to make money,

(01:09:49):
the NFL sacrifices its most promising young quarterbacks the way
ancient Greeks sacrificed virgins. Now it's true, Brian, not many
college quarterbacks are virgins. But does this sacrifice, this reward
for losing, really help bad teams get any smarter?

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Does it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:08):
Finally dawn on Mike Brown that in order to protect
his latest shiny new quarterback, maybe the Bengals ought to
pick up great offensive linemen, big beefies.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
But intell it. It seems so obvious the strategy. Jack,
I'm sorry, I'm laughing. Go ahead. Did we lose him?
We lost him? So what do you want me to do? Joe?
Jack Atherton is back. Jack, welcome back. You got cut off.
I don't know how it happened, but we lost you.

(01:10:41):
I was laughing at your comment about maybe the Bengals
might consider larger people on the offensive line, which was
a great idea. You have to be a coaching genius
to figure that one out. Anyway, Jack, you have the floor.
Welcome back.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
Oh, I know how I got cut off. The NFL
strikes again. I was saying, we need a big deep
of guys like Andrew Whitworth. You remember having He was
one of the best players, one of the best people
the Bengals ever had under contract. Well, Mike Brown let
Whitworth walk all the way to Los Angeles, where he

(01:11:14):
was instrumental in winning a Super Bowl for the Rams.
All right, let's fast forward fast through Joe Burrow, the
most talented quarterback I've ever seen, and I go back
don U Nitis and Joe Namath. Joe Burrow feels less
like a quarterback than a manager who is being rushed
by all the bulls at Pamplona, rushed this season once

(01:11:37):
again to the hospital. This could lead Joe to follow
Carson Palmer. We remember Carson, the Bengals previous number one quarterback.
He retired in frustration and only came back to the
NFL when he was allowed to play for another team.
My point, Brian, is that communism does not work, can

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be awfully cruel. Yes, the NFL has good intentions. It
wants every team, no matter how crueless its ownership, to
have a chance. So the league keeps rewarding failure and sacrifice,
seeing merits twitching as you new on Wood friends to politics.
That's what democrats socialists do today, and with far less reason.

(01:12:22):
The NFL at least seeks to foster competition, and the
league knows that even the most shell shocks the young
quarterbacks will be paid unless their careers are cut short
the way another Andrew Andrew lux was because the le
Jimmy Ercies colp failed to protect him. Let's pray that
never happens to Joe Burrow. But by keeping bad teams

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hopeful every spring by rewarding their idiocy with number one
draft picks, the NFL is not helping the sports or
the fans, and certainly not the young athletes who train
and compete from the time they suit up for Pop
Warner Leaks as five year olds. Just as democrats socialists
don't help children by insisting that high schools graduate them

(01:13:08):
and then send them off to college and then hire
them for dei government jobs when they are still functionally illiterate,
and we're talking about kids of both sexes and all
races and ethnicities, so don't call me a racist. The answer,
I think is to penalize schools and teachers that receive
taxpayer funding but cannot meet basic standards and more important,

(01:13:33):
to help their students, which were medial courses, not phony diplomas.
It also wouldn't hurt Brian to make more of an
effort to enlist parents into helping their own kids. Because
schools and Hillary Clinton's village cannot do it all, they
shouldn't be expected to do it all. It takes parents,
preferably to parents, to raise children finally, not nearly as

(01:13:58):
important as kids in school, but important to long suffer
in football fans. I think the NFL should limit the
number of times bad teams can ruin the top draft picks.
Having to compete for players is the only way bad
teams will finally improve. Brian recall it the National Football
League because it's all American. Let's make sure the NFL

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and our schools uphold the American ideal of rewarding not failure,
but real merits.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
What are you saying, No, of course I love the segue.
Into education. It's very well done pivoting from NFL, but
I guess it seems to me and my initial reaction
to your point about, you know, giving the poorest teams
the first draft courts choice is just because someone is
desired and is a number one draft pick for a
variety of teams because they're the college stats show that

(01:14:50):
they're great players. That doesn't guarantee success in professional football,
does it. There have been some real letdowns when it
comes to number one draft picks and some of the
top draft picks. Is isn't there enough, to your point, available
talent among the draftees to satisfy the needs of these teams?
So you can't you can pick some, you know, if

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you're not, you know, given preferential treatment because you suck,
you still have an option because I think the theory
behind this allocation is that, well, the game's going to
become boring. All the best players are going to end
up And it used to be Dallas, right, and oh
my god, it's unbeatable that the America's team they win
every time. It was almost a foregune conclusion, making the
games kind of well like, well, I know who's going

(01:15:32):
to win? It's less interesting to watch. I think they
think that by sort of you know you wealth, redistributing
the players into various teams is going to create at
least the perception of some fairness between teams. Isn't that
the concept behind it?

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Well, Dallas has another jam, another beauty, as Trump would
say of an owner, Jerry Jones has tell you about him. Look, yes,
there's no guarant see that a player is going to work.
You have to sit into a system and it has
to be a good sis. Some players realize that they're
heading for disaster. John Elaware is the Eli Mannings. They

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were able to insist that they not have to go
to garbage teams, and hopefully the teams that wanted them
so bad they learned something from the fact that they
were turned down, just as you know. I've been turned
down count times like girls, and I hope I learned
something from it. Before I thought it was some one
who would accept me, and we've been married forty three years. Yeah,
it can work out either way. But this idea that

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once in a generation talent like Joe Burrow, and maybe
he wasn't a once in a generation talent, but a
guy like Baker Mayfield was picked up by Cleveland and
could have been ruined. I mean, they could have killed him.
And you know, I think by Cleveland is they're so stupid.
They had a guy who was a rookie and he
had to learn. He took them from one in fifteen

(01:16:55):
to the playoffs and they filled got rid of them.
And now Joe Burrow for Mayfield a to going to
two other teams. He's doing pretty well down in Tampa Bay.
Here's no guarant see how this stuff is going to
work out, but Joe Burrow will tell you there was
every reasonable lead that he was going to step into
a bad situation because of the way the NFL structures

(01:17:15):
these things. And yeah, it was our game, but I
hope it's not too much his loss.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
He does seem to be a bit of a like
a glass jaw kind of guy. He's always injured. But
you can blame the offensive line maybe, Yeah, that's certainly
something to do with it. And fundamentally, you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
Know, let me say, Joe, according to a lot of
people who know a lot more about football than I do,
sometimes holds onto the ball too long. You know, he's
got to learn to get that quick release that kept
you know, Tom Brady's and people like that from from
getting hospitalized every year.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Yeah, that is because he can't count in his offensive
line to give him the protection he needs to get
the successful pass. I think ultimately, you know, moving away
from the politics and the socialism and communism comparisons and
the criticisms of the way the draft works all that,
I think fundamentally for us it boils down to the
ownership and the coaching. Right, if you made better choices

(01:18:09):
in terms of player selection, you might have a better
team on your hands, and your quarterback might.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Be the ones.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
You know, the owners are the ones who pick their coaches,
and there's no salary cap. When it comes to a coach,
you can go out and get somebody really great. You know.
The NFL, I think most people know sports sands now
is not like baseball. The owners who are all given
basically the same amount of money to play with, and
they have salary camps for the players. So if you

(01:18:35):
Bill Burrow, yeah, you have to make sure you have
a good coach, you have a good line, and then
you got to have.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Some luck and a little money left over to hire
some good sized offensive linemen.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
Jack Kennedy a little money about focus to the Bengals. Yeah,
but look, I don't want to tell businesses how to
run their business. I'm a conservative and I'm not suggesting
there's anything unconstitutional. Means are all alike two bad teams.
The league is a private organization and they are in
titles that run themselves the way they like. But boy,

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it seems unfair when we don't even see him on
the sideline.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
Now, Yeah, that's a good point, Jack, You always made
great points. I'm glad you come on the morning show
to talk about them. We'll do another big picture of
Jack Ryan.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Yeah, forgive me. But can I just mention one of
other things that we end on a positive notes, Yes,
kudos to the Kudos to the University of Cincinnati Bearcats
because they are building a football culture and they have
been for a while with few ups and downs, but
they're doing it the right way and they had a
landmark win last Saturday. One of the best teams. Eventually,

(01:19:38):
Iowa faked. I wish I could have rushed the field
with everybody else down at Nippert. So good luck to
them again.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
And it's not just luck well and contrasting the football team.
When I was in college, there was no reason to
go to the game other than to take your bagg
of knops and excuse for a party. They sucked huge
back when I was in college. So I'm glad to
see him doing well, and I'm glad you have the
have you on the program, JACKI that I appreciate your
thoughts and comments and your insight. Will do it again

(01:20:04):
next week, hopefully, Jack. Best the health and love to
you and your better half.

Speaker 8 (01:20:08):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:20:10):
Oh, thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (01:20:11):
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a very happy Wednesday to you one hour from now,
Judge Enna Politana preciated by Congressman Thomas Massey. In the meantime,
Welcome back to the fifty five carsee morning show from
Americans for Prosperity, Donovan and he It's always great having
you on the show, Donovan.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Brian, always a pleasure to start my Wednesday with.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
You, and I've been laughing all morning at the subject
matter is just make government work camp, because like, is
that even possible? They have to be open to get
work done. Apparently, although they were able to approve one
hundred and seven of Donald Trump's nominees and positions yesterday, uh,
fast tracking that. But they had a solution for that
that didn't require sixty votes in the Senate. They need
that many votes to get the government open again. So

(01:21:04):
absent and open government, I doubt it's going to be working.
Some of my listeners are actually quite pleased about that.
Before a jump to the Make Government Work program. Your
reaction to the Democrats lining the same position on this,
I mean, we keep going back to the fact that
the premium supplements were waved. The cap was waved because
of COVID, and they put an end date in that legislation,

(01:21:28):
which is the end of this calendar year. That was
by the Democrat's own hand. It's something they agreed to.
They're going to end. COVID is over. We have no
reason to continue this. And yet there the Democrats are
insisting that we give all kinds of people, including illegal immigrants,
but even people who make two hundred and three hundred
and four hundred thousand dollars a year or how whatever
amount over sixty two to five. They're going to get
a break and have their premium supplemented by the American

(01:21:50):
tax payer. I don't get how they have any traction
on this at all, Donald, and I just want to
get your reaction to their position relative to the Republicans.

Speaker 13 (01:21:59):
Well, yeah, and the reality is there is zero connection
between this government shut down and the demands of Chuck
Schumer on these COVID subsidies. They're entirely and wholly unrelated.
And the fact that this narrative continues to be able
to exist, you know, in traditional media, and that they're

(01:22:22):
not being laughed out of Washington, d C. The Democrats
over this is just unbelievable, zero connection, Brian, between our
government not functioning right now, military pay at risk, federal
employees pay at risk next week, and these COVID subsidies
totally unrelated, And.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
It's such a black and white there's no gray area
in this. The continued resolution offered by the Republicans is
the Biden level of spending. So the Democrats aren't complaining
about all the evil Republicans. CR wants to cut this
that and the other thing, No, it doesn't, so that
argument isn't there. So we really are talking about extending
these COVID era supplements that message the reality the black

(01:23:02):
and the reality of the black and white nature of
this dispute that it isn't resonating or maybe is lost
on the American people. That's a struggle that you deal
with Americans for prosperity all the time. If people don't
pay attention, if they don't bother looking into the whys
and wherefores, they're just going to listen to a SoundBite
from the Democrats or the Republicans as the case maybe,
but they're going to be in a factual vacuum.

Speaker 13 (01:23:25):
Yeah, And I think that's part of what we've been
out there driving and I think Speaker Johnson and the
Republican majority in Congress it's done a great job of
driving that home. We have to reject the Democrats' premise
here there's no need for a deal that it's a
manufactured crisis that is easily resolved with the clean Continuing
Resolution that's already passed out of Congress is over sitting

(01:23:48):
with the Senate and just takes sixty votes. It'd be
great to get one hundred right, to get everybody to
agree we're just going to keep our government running while
we proceed through the normal order of business of getting
these budget bills completed and sent to the press. And
so yeah, the idea here, Brian Wright, is reject the
premise of what Democrats are putting for because it's it's bogus,

(01:24:08):
it's not real. They're unconnected issues, and the crisis exists
only because Chuck Schumer wants to use the September thirtieth
end of the federal fiscal year. He used the September
thirtieth end of the fiscal year to create a crisis
and try to try to score some partisan wins on
an issue that they can talk about, debate and discuss

(01:24:28):
beyond the government shutdown.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
Well, you mentioned Johnson when he was he did his
press conference on this issue. He was bulletproof, rock solid,
very just laid out point by point reason why this
is all on the Democrats corner. The point that I
just boiled down a moment ago about these COVID nineteen
year or something. I mean, you couldn't. It was just
easy to unpackage and easy to listen to. But you

(01:24:52):
if no one's listening to that message. I heard a
talking head comment on that that you know X number
of people actually watched it or clicked on the replay
on social media versus Bernie Sanders or whoever else rambling
about the evil Republicans which had millions and millions by
contrast clicks on it. So, if you're hiding in that

(01:25:12):
factual vacuum, you're not interested in hearing what Johnson's going
to say. You're not going to see how bulletproof his
logic is. So there's that uphill struggle. We constantly deal
with waking the American people up and getting them to
try and pay attention. So let's pause. We'll bring Donovan
O'Neil back and talk specifically about how you and I
can help make government work to the extent that's a
good idea. We'll continue to detalk Station Brian Thomas with

(01:25:35):
Americans for Prosperities Dominan O'Neill on the concept of make
Government work. Over at makegovernmentwork dot org. You can find
all the I love this one, Donovan particularly. You have
five specific acts, the Reorganizing Government Act to Prevent Government
Shutdown ZAC, the Rains Act among them, and each one
would go a long, long way to accomplish the goals

(01:25:57):
of my listeners, and I are really hoping to see
some day, you know, getting rid of inefficiency, getting rid
of bureaucracy, streamlining processes, making government more efficient, and preventing
the government from shutting down in the event they can't
resolve things. So let's talk about some of these. Congressman
Massy has brought up some of these particular acts before.
But an opportunity you've made so easy for our listeners
to get engaged. Just give them your name and your

(01:26:19):
email address, and so they'll send you a call to
action from time to time. This is the well oiled
machine that we need on our side of the political ledger,
much in the same way those leftists and Marxists and
socialists have such a well lower machine when it comes
to social media. So help you help yourself, help Americans
for our prosperity. Let's talk about some of these Donovan
the Reorganizing Government Act.

Speaker 13 (01:26:41):
Yeah, this is this is a piece of legislation from
Kentucky Representative James Comer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
It's active legislation.

Speaker 13 (01:26:48):
We've got nineteen co sponsors right now, and what it
would require is an independent review for waste and overlapping services.
Provide Congress with reorganization plans right to I'll sort of
pinpoint from independent analysis what needs to be done to
get you the duplicative regulatory bodies and just the bloat

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and overweight of government streamlined so it can actually operate efficiently.
And these aren't like I mean, they are pie in
the sky ideas Brian right. But like outside of government,
large organizations, large complex organizations are able to do this stuff,
and we just need to bring some of those practices
and ideas to government to make it work at a
cost effective way with the precious tax tape pair dollars

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we give it so that it can function without chaos
and craziness.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Well, because the free markets out here in the real world,
where real work has to be done and they have
to make a real profit, they're allowed to streamline and
engage in rifts and reorgs and elimination of departments without
fear of litigation. Because most of the employers have the
freedom to hire or fire at will. You don't have
that in the federal government. They have rules, regulations, unions
protecting the government employees ease, and there's so much red

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tape involving eliminating a position. It just gets bigger and bigger,
and no one ever seems to get fired.

Speaker 13 (01:28:08):
Well, yeah, and I think you know, we see glimmers
of this the early days of Trump forty seven, right,
just a few short months ago, there was a there
was that that energy existed, I think in Washington to
make some of those reforms. Now you're taking you know,
you're going up against what is that that an immovable
object and an unstoppable force, right, Yes, kind of colliding here,
but you know it's it's legislation like this right that

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it has the opportunity of Congress has the courage to
reassert its authority and right size the ship. It's possible,
it's constitutional, and we appreciate Senator or Representative Comber for.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Bringing this forward.

Speaker 13 (01:28:41):
And we're kind of beating that drum out there on
on this as a key solution to fixing the bloat
and wasting government.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
And there is no reason to be against the Prevent
Government Shutdowns Act. We wouldn't be in the middle of
this stupidity if we had this. And this is one
of the ones that I've talked about with Congressman Massy.
Remind my listeners about this one.

Speaker 13 (01:28:58):
Yeah, so this is from Senator James Langford, and this
actually has been around for a few sessions of Congress.
It came about in twenty nineteen when we had the
thirty five day shutdown. Shutdowns are a more recent in
art in American history phenomenon. It actually came out of
the nineteen seventies and an interpretation from the Carter administration

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on the function of government when it fails to pass
a budget. It's created a crisis to crisis environment where
like we're seeing right now, right wholly unrelated issues like
covid era, health ACA subsidies are trying to be connected
to the normal funding of our federal government at current levels,

(01:29:41):
totally unconnected issues. We can prevent government shutdowns though, by
automatically funding government at current levels un till the budget
process is done and putting some accountability measures like hey, Congressman,
you can't use taxpayer dollars to get out of Washington
go home, and you know, you know, peacock in front
of your constituents. You got to stay in Washington until

(01:30:03):
the job is done and you get the budget. It's
the most essential function of Congress, Brian, we know this
right is to fund our federal government and manage it
to prevent government shutdown. Act would eliminate the crisis to
crisis approach that exists right now when Congress government can
shut down because Congress Build Act.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
All right, moving over the Comprehensive Congressional Budget Act.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Yeah, So what this would do when we budget at home?

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:30:31):
And I know Congress in Washington, DC aren't like budgeting
at home, but you put everything together, right. You don't
get to just say, hey, you know, my mortgage payment's
over here, and you know date night with the wife
budget is over here. It's all one big budget, right,
You get one paycheck and it all gets You got
to budget it all out right Now, Congress has shrunk

(01:30:52):
discretionary spending is only about twenty five percent seventy five
percent or more? Is this direct spending like Social Security, Medicaid,
to care, these these programs that are sort of I
would describe.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
As being on autopilot for budgeting.

Speaker 13 (01:31:05):
We need to put the whole picture together and have
a full picture of what our federal government is in
taking and outgoing spending, so that we're actually making decisions
about the total ledger, not just that small percentage that
is discretionary. We want Congress to be in control of
the purse, and what this would is would require that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
So they take in X, they've got mandatory spending, which
is a pile that represents why so X minus Y
is what's left over, and that has to be allocated
responsively among what's left the non discretionary spending. So if
you have a finite amount of cash left over in
the pile, you limit your spending to what's left over.

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That's responsible budgeting, which means a lot of stuff is
going to have to get cut because it isn't really
truly a priority.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Yeah, I think you know, cut adjusted.

Speaker 13 (01:31:57):
You know, not that I would advocate or we would
abutagate for this, right, but if you you know, Congress
deems this a priority. We're gonna have to raise taxes
or some other form of revenue to get it done.
But right now, we kind of look at these things
in pieces and parcels. We want Congress to look at
this as the whole picture, right Congress, Like you said,
it takes an X, it's got to spend.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Why what do you what do you what are the
actual priorities?

Speaker 13 (01:32:19):
Where can the where is the federal government best position
to be impactful or have programs. But again, right now,
as long as it's sort of sliced and diced and
split up, more of it's on autopilot. When we actually
want Congress to take a more active approach to governing,
that's what we send them there to do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
We elect them to go there and do that. A
handful do we need all of Congress to do that?

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
And the next one's come up quite frequently. Again, again
I've talked with Congress from mass about the Rains Act.
This is a really important one.

Speaker 13 (01:32:48):
Well, absolutely, once we get the and we can get
government reorganized, we can get you know this, this shutdown
threat removed from the equation in Washington, d C. And
you get the budgeting figured out, y'all still got to
make sure the bloat doesn't come back, right, And each
of these are important on their own, but the Rains
Act in particular, you know, as we start, especially this

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Trump administration with Doe starts clearing out rules and regulations
and streamlining permitting if we can clear out the cobwebs.
But what we need to do is by enacting the
Rains Act, keep that proliferation of rules and regulations from
coming back, and it would the regulations from the executive
in need of scrutiny is good for both Republicans and
Democrats because it keep these most egregious, economically harmful rules

(01:33:32):
from going into effect without at least Congress taking another
look at him and saying, yeah, this is what we intended.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
We believe this is important and it's right now.

Speaker 13 (01:33:42):
Got ninety two co sponsors, including Ohio's own Dave Taylor
from southern Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So we appreciate that cool from him.

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
Yeah, Well, and force the Democrats to defend what they want,
which is egregiously intrusive and irresponsible regulations. Make them justify
it now, at least the conversation will be air, will
air all this out in the public.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:34:01):
Finally we have the Midnight Rules Relief Act. I'm not
familiar with this one, Donovan.

Speaker 13 (01:34:06):
So this is from Arizona Representative Andy Biggs, and this
is an important piece in that how many times do
we hear?

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:34:12):
You get to December or January when a new administration
is coming in and the outgoing lame duck president starts
writing rules and auto penning rules whatever they're doing, right,
They're just going on a flurry of enacting the things
that might have been politically unpopular in the early part of.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Their tenure of their administration. But they jam that stuff through.
We shouldn't be doing that stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:34:32):
What it would do is it would target some of
these late term regulations. So anything sort of that your
the administration is trying to do in the final year
in office, give that a little more scrutiny. Expand the
Congressional Review Act to be able to bundle some of
those reviews together, where right now I believe they have
to do them sort of individually, with each individual rule,
ultimately saving time and taxpair dollars. Some rules need to

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be implemented, right but we want to reassert that congressional
authority that if your on the Biden administration and you're
on your way out, you don't get to put all
this stuff in, you know, Monday night and Tuesday morning.
When the next president comes in, they've got to figure
out what the damage is and what actually needs to
be adjusted.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
I couldn't agree more with that. So, as we typically
end on the call to action, I know the website
is Makegovernmentwork dot com. How can my listeners get engaged?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Well, go to that website.

Speaker 13 (01:35:26):
And the important part about this toolkit why I wanted
to join you and talk about this today, is so
many of our friends on the left say, well, Republicans
have no solutions, Conservatives have no solutions to these problems.
We have solutions, Brian. Makegovernmentwork dot com. It's a place
you can go. There's five active pieces of legislation in
Congress right now that would solve many of the structural

(01:35:47):
problems that have put us in the situation we're in
here today, eight days into a government shutdown. Go there,
arm yourself with some information and go out and have
that conversation with folks. And if you want to join us,
go there, share your information. We'll reach out and we'll
get you plugged into some of the events and activities
we have going on around the Buckeye State.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
I know you will. You always have and you'll continue
to do so. Americans for Prosperity head on over to
Makegovernmentwork dot com. Just track will put a link up
on my blog page fifty five care Sea dot com
in case you can't remember that. Donovan O'Neil, thanks for
what you and Americans for Prosperity do each and every day.
Appreciate your willingness to help out voters here in the
state of Ohio get involved as well as dealing with
national legislation, which of course is the scope of this

(01:36:26):
make a Government Work plan. Donovan will get you out
back on real soon. Have a great day and keep
up the excellent work. The talk station seven fifty four
to fifty five car CD talk station. Interesting concept. Making
government far more efficient, streamline it so it can actually
do work efficiently, something we expect from the private sector
and something we never get from the government. Why because

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we can't. We don't have a choice. There's no choice.
You are forced to pay taxes, taxes that fund a government.
The government is run by our bureaucrats who refuse to
reduce the size and scobeal of government, even though they
spend far more than they take in. We don't have
any choice on that, with the exception of voting for
people who might consider efficiency and spending as a priority,

(01:37:08):
you're limiting your selection on that kind of reminds me
on some level public schools. You have no choice. They
make you go there, even though your children are not
getting educated to your expectations. They're inefficient, they're bloated, their
salaries don't reflect the benefit that you're getting from any
given teacher. I mean, you go on and on and on.
You are stuck there. So we can change schools, and

(01:37:31):
we can change the idea of giving you the choice
of where to go, much to the threat to the
teachers' unions and the public education system which is not delivering.
Because if it was, people would choose to stay there.
We don't have that option. When it comes to the
federal government, we don't. You're stuck. So why wouldn't we

(01:37:52):
demand better efficiency from our taxpayer dollars? Why do we
abide all of this fraud was abuse when it's our
money that's being abused and wasted, and it's our money
that is allowing an inefficient government to continue UNABATEDVFTY five
car se the talk station. Congressman Thomas Massey is going

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to come up next, follow by Judge enital Poultono. I
sure hope we can stick around for the conversations.

Speaker 10 (01:38:19):
Today's top stories.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
Welcome to the beginning of my favorite hour radio. We
get to hear from Congressman Thomas Massey. You followed by
Judge Ennita Poulitano, who may very well be listening right now.
Joe Strecker gave him the heads up that Congressman Massy,
you be on the program right now. Welcome back, my friend.
It's always a pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Great to be on.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
I'd rather be in DC, but Speaker Johnston doesn't want us.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
To come back.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Yeah, I I.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
You'd rather be in DC. You're not in d C,
which you anticipated one of what was going to be
one of my questions about this shutdown. Yes, we're in
the middle of a shutdown. Know the Democrats will not
agree to continuing to operate at the levels that they
created last year. It's the Biden level spending that the
Republicans passed over your objection, and I understand that with
a continuing resolution, they can't complain about cuts the government anything.

(01:39:09):
They're just trying to keep it open and keep us hostage.
Although none of my listening audience feels hostage. Congressman Massy
the oldest hostage. So they can continue covid era premium
supplements under Obamacare, I mean COVID's over. They put the
deadline of December of twenty twenty five in the legislation
extending these benefits. They knew this was coming. Obviously, this

(01:39:31):
is a pretext shutdown for them to continue along the
path of bringing us basically medicaid for all under the
Obamacare umbrella. Am I on the right path? Congressman Massy, Yes,
let me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Back up before we unpack all of that. So not
only are we in a shutdown, we're in a recess.
And this is interesting because usually during a shutdown, Congress
is in set.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
But the Speaker Johnson has decided politically it's better for
us not to be in town now.

Speaker 6 (01:40:02):
He says.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
The reason is he doesn't want the Democrats doing dilatory
things on the floor, maybe making motions or whatnot. But
the reality is, if he were to call us back today,
he would have to swear in the one hundred and
eighteenth signature on my Epstein petition and we could force
a vote on releasing the Epstein file.

Speaker 5 (01:40:24):
Well, is that what this is about?

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
This is I'm calling it. Okay, it may be the
Schumer shut down, but it's the Epstein recess.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Is what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
But way to say, Okay, we're gonna get dive to
more of the details on this one. But my question
to you is going to be and I just was
putting the recess reality in the back of my mind.
If you if the government shut down, that doesn't stop
you or the Senate from working on the twelve appropriations bills,
which is the reason you're doing the CR to keep
the government open until the middle of November, because the

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way we're doing it right now, it's going to be
shut down up until the deadline that's in the CR.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
You can't open the government back down if Congress shut
it down and Congress is not in session. So it's
I mean, I understand, I understand his excuse, but I
think it's it's just an excuse, and I think we
should be in Washington, DC in the event that the
Senate does come to some agreement, then the House could

(01:41:26):
act immediately. But he's trying to basically jam the Senate
because the House already passed the CR and then the
Senate's sitting there and they're just having new votes on
that same CR to try to get more Democrats to fold.
People ask me when will the shut down end, and
I will and I will tell you it ends the

(01:41:47):
way it always ends. It ends when one side's polling
shows that they're taking a butt whipping in public opinion,
and then they come to the table and.

Speaker 6 (01:42:00):
Give in.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
So right now, neither side has a clear indication that
they're losing the messaging war. So we're going to be
in a shutdown for a while. I believe the next
big milestone is the middle of this month, which is
when government employees they get paid bi monthly twice a month.

(01:42:23):
That is going to be the big showdown there now,
most not well a majority of government workers are probably Democrats.
I know a lot of good Republicans who work for
the government, but I would say a majority of them,
especially in DC, are Democrats. So the interesting thing is
going to be when they don't get their next paycheck. Now,

(01:42:44):
the reality is, I don't mean to sound callous or
to diminish this, but the credit unions will give anybody
who's a member of the credit union at advance on
their paycheck because they know that I'm talking about the
Federal Credit union right because they know they're going to
get paid. There's never the employees who are whether they're

(01:43:05):
essential or non essential, they will all get paid when
the shutdown is over. That's the way it's been with
every shutdown and knowing that the federal credit unions will
give the paycheck to any federal employee advance it without interest.

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
It's a safe risk.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
But yeah, but it still makes It's still going to
be and not everybody's in a credit union, and it's
still going to make a talking point on the fifteenth
this month when they don't get paid. But in the meantime,
let me remind everybody what is on the table. The
Republicans thought they could avoid a shutdown by completely surrendering. Okay,

(01:43:46):
if they just passed Joe Biden's budget, that's exactly penny
for penny. It's Joe Biden's budget, line for line, that's
what the House representatives.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Put on the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
I didn't vote for it, and one other Republican did
not vote for it, but it's still passed the House,
it went to the Senate, and ironically, you have people
Republicans who didn't vote for it when it was under Joe,
when Joe Biden was president, but now that Donald Trump
is president, they're voting for Joe Biden's budget. It's I'm

(01:44:17):
literally one of the only members of Congress who hasn't
flipped their vote on this.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
It needs to be the other right around, because you're
a you're a you're a fiscal hawk and of course
a constitutional purists. And there's are reasons why you wouldn't
want to extend Joe Biden's level funding. And I understand
that all day long. But from a strategy standpoint, ignoring
the side that you and I are both on, it
does make sense to keep that Biden level because that

(01:44:43):
satisfied the Democrats last year. And that's a wonderful talking
point when you're trying to counter their oh my god,
we're all going to die narrative that goes along with this,
with this shutdown in the Republican cr.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
And and let me tell you something, just to be
completely intellectually honest, Joe Biden's budget because of Joe Biden's inflation.
If you do the same thing dollar for dollar, it's
going to be about five percent less than it was
last year because of inflation. But and so you might say, well, then,

(01:45:15):
Congressman Matthew, why wouldn't you be inclined to vote for
Joe Biden's spending levels since inflation will reduce this and
solve the budget.

Speaker 6 (01:45:22):
Problem for you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Well, there's two reasons. One spending is policy. It's it's
not that we've spent one point five trillion under Joe
Biden and we're going to spend one point five trillion
under Trump. It's that every line item in there is
exactly the same, including the things that we cut out
in DOGE. Now, the DOGE cuts were only temporary, So
what happens if Joe Biden's budget passes again? All of

(01:45:47):
the stuff we cut out using DOGE goes back into
the budget. So and then the DEI stuff, that's all
that's all going to be in there. So it's number one.
Spending is policy when you do it line by line.
If you said, well, Trump will spend exactly the same amount,
diminished by inflation, but we'll move it around to different priorities,

(01:46:09):
I might be able to get behind that. Now here's
the other reason I'm not for Joe Biden's budget minus
the five percent inflation because in the Big Beautiful Bill,
which was supposed to only deal with mandatory spending, they
added about four hundred billion dollars of discretionary spending. So

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they put appropriations in the Big Bill a few months
ago on DOJ that's Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security,
and Department of Defense, so they've the Republicans have already
plussed up spending, so that even if we passed Joe
Biden's budget, which is what Mike Johnson wants to do

(01:46:51):
and John Dune, even if we passed Joe Biden's budget,
and even if we can account for inflation diminishing those
dollar values, they've already plus stuff the budget a few
months ago. And that's really what they won't tell you
on the news. That's why the Democrats are mad they
didn't get a plus up in their line items and
the usual deal wink wink, nod nod in Washington, d C.

(01:47:12):
Is Republicans increase their spending and Democrats increase their spending,
and that's how you get to sixty votes in the Senate.
So that's why they're not voting for it. And then
they're making up these other medical things. Those aren't fights.
If the stuff expires in December, then that's when you
have the fight in December. They're also trying to undo
the fraud fixes that will put in the big beautiful

(01:47:37):
bill to keep illegals from getting Medicaid and whatnot. The
Democrats are trying to take that back out but that's
not the fight that you're supposed to have on these
appropriations bills. These should be only the twelve spending bills,
and you're right, we should be back in Washington working on.

Speaker 5 (01:47:51):
Them and where they'll have another opportunity to do whatever
the hell they want by way of policy or extending
supplements for people who otherwise don't need it. Let's pausele Wring.
Congressman Thomas Massey back at eight fifteen. Right now, I
fifty five Kerr Seed talk Ryan Thomas and Congressman Thomas Massey.
Congress Massy, you suggested, and I think at a foregone conclusion,

(01:48:13):
you are ultimately going to get your vote on the
Epstein file release. And I always like to use this
opportunity as a time to express my dismay that Trump
did a one to eighty. I mean, he campaigned on
releasing this stuff. A lot of Republicans were demanding it
during the Biden administration. Democrats didn't bother uh pushing to
release the documents when they had the opportunity to do so,
But now they're clamoring to do it. I don't know

(01:48:34):
what changed. Honestly, no one brings it up anymore except
you this morning, for example. But once the government shutdown
is over and people return to work and the recess
is over, there's going to be a vote, right Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
And the government shutdown doesn't have to be over. This
is an Act of Congress that doesn't require funding. We
can go back into session, and as soon as we do,
there's a congresswoman named Grihalva who won her election two
weeks ago who hasn't been sworn in. This is also unprecedented.

Speaker 6 (01:49:09):
The Speaker's things. But we're not in.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
But the reality is we have these pro forma sessions
every four days to keep the House and the Senate
from going into recess. Ironically, to keep President Trump from
making recess appointments. I don't agree with it, but that's
what they do. Every four days they meet, and they
could swear this congresswoman in on one of these recess appointments,
because they did that with two Republicans already this year.

(01:49:33):
But the Speaker's not doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
So as soon as we get back.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
Now, this is what I'm telling you is predicated on
an assumption that none of my three Republican co signers
can be flipped by the White House. Because the White
House is trying desperately to get either Marjorie Taylor Green,
Nancy Mace, or Lauren Bobert to take their names off
of my petition. But who did they succeed in getting

(01:50:01):
one of those women to take their names off the petition.
There's another congressperson who will be elected in November who
will be signing the discharge petition. So I don't know
why they keep dragging this out, whether they just keep
fighting to the bitter end. We should have the vote.
They can try to stop me in the Senate, but

(01:50:21):
they don't. Here's the thing, Brian, they don't even want
to have the vote.

Speaker 5 (01:50:29):
Well, lots of red flags waved over that one. Just
I mean, that just fuels the conspiracy theory narrative out there.
And who are we protecting on this?

Speaker 6 (01:50:39):
Good?

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Good question, good question. So the victims' lawyers have indicated
to me they are at least twenty men who Epstein
trafficked women too, that they gave the names to the FBI,
and the FBI recorded them, memorialized that in the three
h two forms. So we know that the FBI has

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at least twenty names. I think six of them are billionaires.
One of them is a movie producer, one is a
former politician, one is a current person in government, one's
a CEO. Like I don't know their names, but these
are the indication that the victims lawyers have given to me.
And the reason they don't put out the names is

(01:51:21):
they would be sued into homelessness for defamation. The government
doesn't pursue any of this if they can't. You get
any of the evidence out there, and the government's in
possession of it. So the government needs to release the names.
But here's what I know.

Speaker 9 (01:51:36):
I know the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
President is trying to protect some top Republican donors and
friends of his in West Palm Beach, and I will
stand by that and.

Speaker 8 (01:51:46):
Go to my grave on that.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
Well, that would explain it, wouldn't it. I mean that
it's not right, but it certainly would make sense as
to how he didn't why he did a one to eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
And then the other question is, well, if if the
president's donors stand to lose in this white and Joe
Biden and the Democrats pursue this when they were in power. Well,
it's because once you get to the billionaire class, a
lot of these billionaires are just members of the uniparty,
they give to whichever parties in power. Who's ever having

(01:52:18):
the best parties? How do you get to the Lincoln
veterom in the White House. So they give to both parties,
and I think you're going to see men implicated who
are friends and donors of both parties in this. And
then also finally, this is the conspiracy theory, but there's

(01:52:39):
a lot of weight to it. I introduced five documents
into the record in front of Cash Battel a few
weeks ago in our judiciary hearing that indicate that Jeffrey
Epstein was working with National Intelligence MASAD and the CIA.
And I asked, I even asked Cash Pattel, have you
seen the CIA five on Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
He has not.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
So, and there is one. Now, why wouldn't he go
look at that?

Speaker 5 (01:53:09):
Good questions?

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Well, you know he's allowed to go see that. You
can't keep the director of the FBI because he.

Speaker 5 (01:53:15):
Looks at it, he's going to have to answer your questions.
He can just play ignorance. I don't want to see
it because then I'll have to Then I'll say, yeah,
I do know what's in there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Yeah that makes sense, I asked Cash Btelly. Have you
seen the three h two forms that the FBI filled
out when the interviewed the victims. He's not seen him. No,
he's trusting. His answer to me was he trusts that
the people working at the FBI would have given him
those names if they were credible evidence. And then my
question is do you not think the victims are credible? Like,

(01:53:47):
let's the Speaker of the House is trying to say
that he's trying to protect the victims, but my legislation
would redact their names in anything that could be used
to identify them out of the files, and the victims
themselves support my legislation.

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
Yeah, that's the big point right there. Yeah, that he's
making an argument on their behalf that they don't want asserted. Wow, well,
welcome to government. No kid in Congress, Amassi. Let me
ask you a simple, straightforward question. Since Judge Enna Tona
Andrew Napolitana is up next and he's maybe listening but
going to be commenting on this is an opinion from

(01:54:25):
the Office of Legal Counsel within the Justice Department telling
Donald Trump that he is allowed to authorize deadly force
use against well cartels because they pose an eminent threat
to Americans. Does a boat fifteen hundred miles away a
small boat maybe goes fifteen to twenty knots Is that
an eminent threat to the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
I know somebody who worked in the Office of Legal
Counsel under Nixon, under Reagan, and he's still alive, and
he's in DC, and he advises me, and he says
that department exists just to justify thing the President won't.
This man's testified in front of Congress on Iran contra,

(01:55:08):
like he knows that the Office of Legal Counsel, they
sit over there constructing scaffolding that can go, you know,
ten stories high, and it's built out of bamboo and
lashed together with very weak legal arguments, and they just
rely on Congress not challenging them.

Speaker 5 (01:55:26):
Well, that's kind of the answer I expected, Carson Thomas Massey.
I appreciate the time you spoke my listeners of me
providing some truth in a world where we desperately need
to keep up the great work. I'll look forward today
you return from recess and start working on the appropriation
Bill's Congress. Massy, I'll look forward to having you back
on the show. Real soon.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Thank you, Brian, say hi to the judge for me.

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Coming up next, the guest who's very happy this morning, Well,
because another judge powered is Yankees to a victory last night.

Speaker 5 (01:56:32):
They've got to need a couple more.

Speaker 12 (01:56:34):
But Judge Napp's next, Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC
the talk station.

Speaker 5 (01:56:42):
Eight thirty two if you five krsity talk station, Well
at least it wasn't goofy or wacky that was a
rather straightforward introduction. Welcome back to the fifty five KRC
Morning Show, my friend, Judge Napolitano.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
Yes, yes, it was. And I think, if I have
this correct, a thirty eight year old old Italian from
New Jersey will soon become the hero of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
So I have that right.

Speaker 5 (01:57:09):
You may maybe collectively we've written off the Cincinnati Bengals
your honor. It's like, you want to be optimistic, but
they give us no reason whatsoever to be optimistic. So
maybe there is an element in there that's optimism.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
I feel sorry for.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Joe Burrow. He's such a talented kid, but he just
keeps getting hurt, I know, run over and over again.

Speaker 5 (01:57:30):
Well, that came up in conversation early in the program,
and I think we're blaming management, coaching staff, the owners
for maybe not adequately protecting Joe Joe Burrow with a
reasonably competent offensive line. But you know, we'll see how
things play out over the long term, all right, And
I love your column. I don't know if you heard

(01:57:51):
me ask Congress from Massey about the Office of Legal
Counsel and Department of Justice giving Donald Trump the keys
to the American military when we face what he believes
to be an emin and threat. Congress Amssy just basically
said that that office is really designed to uphold literally
anything the White House wants to do, regardless of administration.
But I want to pause on that for a moment
and ask you about what I thought was really I

(01:58:15):
don't know orwellian the fact that that Donald rather all
these elected officials, seven Senators and one member of the
House of Representative, in this Arctic frost investigation launched by
the FBI in connection with the January sixth riots, they
got their phone records. We've talked about this kind.

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
Of they have. They have nobody to blame but themselves, right,
because the statute, the Electronic Privacy so called Electronic Privacy Act,
you know, the name really is often the misnumber, permits
FBI agents to get metadata. So it's who you called,
when you called, and how long you spoke, it's not

(01:58:56):
the actual conversation. I've been con this as a violation
of the Fourth Amendment since it was first inactive. This
is enacted by the Congress. They probably never imagined that
it would happen to them. That doesn't make it moral
and it doesn't make it constitutional, but it does make
it legal. And to make it even worse, Brian, this

(01:59:18):
does not require a search warrant signed by a judge.
It can be done by one of two ways. A
grand jury subpoena and a good prosecutor can get a
grand jury to subpoena anything, or a national security letter CHIE.
What is a National Security letter Patride Act? That's where

(01:59:39):
one FBI agent authorizes another FBI agent to issue a
search warrant on stored records at your lawyer's office, your
doctor's office, your telecom, your computer Serverson that I don't
blame is and I frequently disagree with him. As Senator Holly,

(02:00:03):
he was outraged he was not in the Senate when
this legislation was enacted, but almost everybody else on that
committee yesterday was in both parties. In fact, the chair
that's been in the center for thirty years was around
when the original legislation was enacted.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
I'm glad you framed it that way. I had a
student listener call and point out the exact same thing.
Republicans or anybody who voted for that, has nobody blamed
for themselves for the fact that it's being used against
them in this particular case, question of whose ox is
being gord, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
Right nobody's ox should be gored. They should follow the
Fourth Amendment. If Jack Smith had probable cause to believe
that there was evidence of a crime and a conversation
between I'm just going to use this hypothetically. I don't
know if the conversation happened Senator Josh Holly and President
Trump on January fifth or January sixth. He goes to

(02:00:56):
a federal judge, presents the evidence, and if the judge agrees,
he signed a search warrant. Short of that, not neither
Jack Smith nor any prosecutor, under any circumstances has the
right to surveil communications. But the Congress has butchered that
in a series of legislation, going back to legislative acts

(02:01:16):
going back to before nine to eleven. I believe it
or not, what left wing pinko creep signed the first
of these laws allowing the government to get your bank.

Speaker 5 (02:01:27):
Records George Bush right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:29):
Ronald Rayel, nineteen eighty six. So this stuff goes way back.
It was of course accelerated after nine to eleven. After
nine to eleven, you have the Patriot Act and a
slew of amendments to it, every single one of which
makes surveillance without a search warrant easier. But the original

(02:01:50):
damage was done in nineteen eighty six under the so
called Bank Privacy Act, which gave the FEDS the right
to look at banking information when you deposited more than
ten thousand dollars in one deposits. That's what opened up
these floodgates.

Speaker 5 (02:02:11):
And when you frame it that way, I just scratched
my head and wonder, why, what possible? I mean, well,
what cartels are using in drug dealers?

Speaker 3 (02:02:19):
And so in those days, in those days, we were
at the tail end of the drug wars, which had
destroyed the Fourth Amendment. And fear of drug dealers is
what animated Congress Post nine to eleven. Of course, it
is fear of terrorism, and what is it now? Whatever

(02:02:41):
Donald Trump says, it is fear of immigrants, fear of
narco terrorists, fear of whatever you want to be afraid of.
In terms of what Congressman Messy said, I had an
internet problem on my previous gig and I was not
able to jump on. Of course, I agree with everything
he says, but the Office of Legal Counsel was once
the DOJ's lawyers. You'll know the names of two people

(02:03:04):
who in their younger days ran the Office of Legal Counsel.
One of them is named William Rehnquist and the other
is named antonin Scalia. These were truly the brightest stars
in the DOJ. They told the DOJ the law as
they understood that they were impervious to politics no longer today.

(02:03:26):
I am dying to see this so called secret memorandum
that she has. How can analysis of a public law
possibly be secret?

Speaker 5 (02:03:36):
I know I was gonna ask you about that. He's
not gonna reveal the memo to the general public, even
though CNN is widely reported on it. But emminent threat
isn't that a rather subjective measure when it comes to
determined whether they're going to use military force. And I
go back to the boats, he's blown up. I don't
like drugs. I don't want him in in the United States.

(02:03:57):
But you know that's what we have a coastguard for
if they get close to us, that we can pick
them up in process.

Speaker 3 (02:04:02):
How could four guys in a speedboat fifteen hundred miles
from the US, unarmed or maybe with just small arms,
you know, handguns possibly be considered an eminent threat to
the national security of the United States. The answer is
they can't. And even if they were an eminent threat,
it would make much more sense to arrest them, search

(02:04:26):
the boat if there's drugs there, seize the assets, and
then engage in plean negotiations with one of them to
find out where the drugs came from and who their
sources are. There are ways to accomplish these goals without
murdering people.

Speaker 5 (02:04:45):
Yeah, no question about it. Go about the normal course
of business. Pick them up. They obviously can have committed
a crime. Look, it's a drug, vote a drug, it's
a boat full of drugs. That's against law. You're in
our territory of waters. You're going to be subject to prosecution.
I die anyhow. It's just troubling from my perspective, and
I worry. You know a lot of my listeners. I
think I hate drug dealers. I don't care that they

(02:05:06):
blew out. I don't care if it violates constitution. Well
I do, because somebody else is going to be in
office someday. Yeah, and they may decide that some organization
that we don't believe necessarily represents an eminent THREATSCA starts
getting bombed because of their political ideology or their geopolitical
ideology or whatever have you. It's so low a standard.
And we're talking about America's military here at minimum. And

(02:05:27):
you and I, I think agree on this point. We
don't believe authorizations for use of military force quite cut
the constitutional declaration of war standard. But at least get
Congress to agree with you and say, yes, you're right,
we stamp of approval, authorize you some military force because
we believe this to be an eminent threat. We can
hash that out right right.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
It's very, very dangerous.

Speaker 14 (02:05:51):
I got a little alarmist and hyperballic at the end
of my column saying, who are they going to shoot next?

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
Drug dealers in Chicago? Go? But their logic for killing
people before they commit crime is the same logic be
could out outside the territory of waders of the United States.

Speaker 15 (02:06:12):
Is the same logic that they could apply to people
inside the United States.

Speaker 3 (02:06:17):
By the way, how can it be a federal crime
even if they were carrying drugs from Caracas to some
island off the coast of Caracas. What business of the
federal government is that does federal law apply everywhere on
the planet.

Speaker 5 (02:06:36):
Don't tell them that they may get that idea. You're
honor and we'll start bombing targets all over the world
without with reckless abandon Judge Enna Politano, Logic, reason is
always on the plate when we talk with you, and
I appreciate the willingness to come on the program every
week and have these great conversations.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
Right Brian, It's my favorite morning, and I love being
able to chat with you no matter what. The Yankees
or the Reds or the Bengals hate to even mention this.
The football team New York Giants are going.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
It was strain for you to get those words out
real quick. Judging Freedom is his web or his podcast.
Who are you gonna be speaking with today? You're on about.

Speaker 3 (02:07:13):
Eleven this morning Eastern. I have the great Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Colonel McGregor and I spent a weekend together giving this
past weekend in a beautiful place in the United States, Dallas, Texas,
where we were well received by the people to whom
we spoke. But he's warning that war with Iran is imminent,
and he's going to describe American not Israeli American preparations

(02:07:36):
for that war. Does Iran pose a threat to the
national security of the United States? Not one bit, But
we're getting ready.

Speaker 5 (02:07:46):
It's gonna be a fascinating conversation. If not. Trouble and
judging paulatonom until next Wednesday. God bless you, sir, have
a great week.

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
Thank you, Brian, all the best.

Speaker 5 (02:07:54):
Take care, my friend. It's a forty three right now
if you have kersee the talk station Gate of Heaven. Anyway,
fifty fought CAC dot com get a chance to listen
to the Big Picture with Jack add In this morning.
Little technical difficulties during that as well, but we got
through it. The Communist NFL which he was able to
link to the education system amazingly. That's what we get
from Jack add In. Pretty amazing commentary as always, Donovan

(02:08:16):
and Neil. A whole bunch of stuff you and I
can help with to make government work and to make
government work dot com. Five specific bills are identified there,
like the Rains Act and the Keep Government Open Act,
and they really would go a long long way to
accomplish some efficiency and getting rid of fraud, waste and

(02:08:37):
abuse in government. So action item right there for you,
and I link at fifty five cares dot com. Of
course Congressman Massi on the shutdown and it's connection maybe
with the Epstein files. Wow, red flag all over that,
and of course Judge Napolitano fifty five cares dot Comyet
Tryhart Metia ampire over there as well. I started out
the Morning Show talking about this. It we have a

(02:09:01):
choice here, flipped the natty, says Corey Bowman. Corey Bowman
running from Mary. He's a pretty darn good guy, and
I've talked to him a whole bunch of times on
the Morning Show, as you know if you listen regularly,
and not once, not once, has he ever tried to
hang his hat on the fact that he is the
half brother of JD Vans Vice president JD Vance's half brother,
which is constantly, constantly the drum beat from the media.

(02:09:25):
He's got, really, I mean, other than a partial bloodline connection.
He's running to serve the city of Cincinnati residence and
he's very clear on that all residents. He's not springing
from particularly right wing perspective. He just realizes that we
have priorities in the city and keeping roads paved and

(02:09:45):
cracking down on crime, seeing that criminals are held accountable
to create a better environment for you and me. Cutting
out all the green New Deal woke stuff that we
can't afford, even if it was it was going to
do something. And to anybody out there that thinks that
city taxpayer money should go toward green projects, ask yourself,

(02:10:08):
what the hell can the city of Cincinnati alone accomplish
doing this. They're not doing it Warren County. They're not
doing in Butler County. They're not doing it in Clarmont County.
They're not doing it in Newport, they're not doing it
in Covington. I could go on, probably because maybe they
don't have the financial resources to accomplish some carbon neutrality
exercise or green energy production exercise, but because maybe they

(02:10:30):
practically say, gee, well, we're all breathing the same air.
It's one big globe they are circulating and everything the
entire country has done the name of carbon or cutting
back carbon dioxide aka plant food hasn't done a wit
to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in the environment,
thanks to China and India and Turkey and other very
large producers of greenhouse gases, which I personally don't believe

(02:10:54):
carbon dioxide is a pllutant to naturally occurring phenomenon. The
plants need to live, so it occurs in the nature,
natural environment. It's critical for the functioning of the planet.
So what in the hell is the city getting involved
with something that even if they achieve their long term
objectives and they could wave a flag saying we're carbon

(02:11:15):
neutral in Cincinnati, what's it going to do for everybody
in the world. Nothing so long winded way of saying
that's I think that's backcrap and sanity from the left.
Do we want to allocate that as a priority? I
think that Corey Bowman would not, Well, wait till after
we get the roads fixed, Wait till after we get
these big projects over with, Wait till after we get

(02:11:35):
the crime situation ironed out, Wait till after we bring
more investments by lowering the regulatory burden and getting things
built and things accomplished. I mean, he's hit the nail
on the head of all the problems the city has created,
most notably created intentionally, I suppose, making it more difficult

(02:11:55):
for us to live, thrive, and survive in the city.
So what has that got to do with jade events?
Literally nothing headline from Scott Warman to the Inquire in Cincinnati.
Jd Vance's half brother hopes for a political earthquake in
mayoral race. That's the headline. Then we put Corey Bowman
in the headline, this time around the Republican. Kennedy mentions
Winster of PRESIDI since nay Mayor happens to be Vice

(02:12:18):
President jd Vance's half brother. And then two paragraphs into
the article he finally mentions Corey Bowman, and not the
only time he mentions jd Vance's half brother. I think
he's brought up three or four times in the article.
And of course the article concludes making the point again

(02:12:39):
to the extent you didn't get it from the headline
or in the body of reporting there it is at
the close. But it's Bowman's family that has drawn much
of the attention. His half brother is Vice President jd Vance.
That sentence, well, the beginning of my favorite hour radio
we get to hear from Congress. By judging Paula Tan

(02:13:02):
listening right now, jus Tractor gave them the heads up
that conclude you'd be on the program right now. Welcome back,
my friends. You think that's been the dominant subject matter.
Scott Great.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
To be honest, I'd rather be in DC, but Speaker
Johnston doesn't want us to come back.

Speaker 5 (02:13:17):
Yeah, I I you'd rather be in DC. You're not
in d C, which you anticipated. One of what was
going to be one of my questions about this shutdown. Yes,
we're in the middle of a shutdown. No, the Democrats
will not agree to continuing to operate at the levels
that they created last year. It's the Biden level spending
that the Republicans passed over your objection, and I understand
that with the continuing resolution. Uh, they can't complain about

(02:13:41):
cuts the government anything. They're just trying to keep it
open and keep us hostage. Although none of my listening
audience feels hostage. Congressman Massy the oldest hostage. So they
can continue covid era premium supplements under Obamacare, I mean,
COVID's over. They put the deadline of December of twenty
twenty five in the legislation extending these benefits. They knew

(02:14:01):
this was coming, obviously, this is a pretext shutdown for
them to continue along the path of bringing us basically
medicaid for all under the Obamacare umbrella. Am I on
the right path Congress and messy?

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
Yes, let me back up before we unpack all of that. So,
not only are we in a shutdown, we're in a recess.
And this is interesting because usually during a shutdown, Congress
is in session.

Speaker 2 (02:14:27):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
But the Speaker, Johnson has decided politically it's better for
us not to be in town now. He says, the
reason is he doesn't want the Democrats doing dilatory things
on the floor, maybe making motions or whatnot. But the
reality is, if he were to call us back today,
he would have to swear in the one hundred and

(02:14:49):
eighteenth signature on my Epstein petition and we could force
a vote on releasing the Epstein file.

Speaker 5 (02:14:57):
Is that what this is about?

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
This is I'm calling it. Okay, it may be the
Schumer shut down, but it's the Epstein recess.

Speaker 7 (02:15:05):
Is what it is.

Speaker 5 (02:15:09):
But wait to say. Okay, we're gonna get dive to
more of the details on this one. But my question
to you is going to be, and I just was
putting the recess reality in the back of my mind.
If you if the government shut down, that doesn't stop
you or the Senate from working on the twelve appropriations bills,
which is the reason you're doing the CR to keep
the government open until the middle of November, because the

(02:15:30):
way we're doing it right now, it's going to be
shut down up until the deadline that's in the CR.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
You can't open the government back down if Congress shut
it down, and Congress is not in session. So it's
I mean, I understand, I understand his excuse, but I
think it's it's just an excuse, and I think we
should be in Washington, d C. In the event that
the Senate does come to some agreement, then the House

(02:15:58):
could act immediately. But he's trying to basically jam the
Senate because the House already passed the CR, and then
the Senate's sitting there and they're just having new votes
on that same CR to try to get more Democrats
to fold. People ask me when will the shutdown end,
and I will tell you it ends the way it

(02:16:19):
always ends. It ends when one side's polling shows that
they're taking a butt whipping in public opinion and then
they come to the table and.

Speaker 5 (02:16:32):
Give in.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
So right now, neither side has a clear indication that
they're losing the messaging war. So we're going to be
in a shutdown for a while. I believe the next
big milestone is the middle of this month, which is
when government employees they get paid bi monthly twice a month.

(02:16:55):
That is going to be the big show down there now,
most not well a majority of government workers are probably Democrats.
I know a lot of good Republicans who work for
the government, but I would say a majority of them,
especially in DC, are Democrats. So the interesting thing is
going to be when they don't get their next paycheck. Now,

(02:17:16):
the reality is, I don't mean to sound callous or
to diminish this, but the credit unions will give anybody
who's a member of the credit union at advance on
their paycheck because they know that I'm talking about the
Federal credit union right, because they know they're going to
get paid. There's never the employees who are whether they're

(02:17:38):
essential or non essential, they will all get paid when
the shutdown is over. That's the way it's been with
every shutdown. And knowing that the federal credit unions will
give the paycheck to any federal employee advance it without interest.

Speaker 5 (02:17:55):
It's a safe risk.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
But yeah, but it still makes it's still going to
be and not. Everybody's in a credit union, and it's
still going to make a talking point on the fifteenth
of this month when they don't get paid. But in
the meantime, let me remind everybody what is on the table.
The Republicans thought they could avoid a shutdown by completely surrendering. Okay,

(02:18:19):
they just passed Joe Biden's budget. That's exactly penny for penny.
It's Joe Biden's budget, line for line, that's what the
House representatives put on the floor. I didn't vote for it,
and one other Republican did not vote for it, but
it's still passed the House. It went to the Senate,
and ironically, you have people Republicans who didn't vote for

(02:18:39):
it when it was under Joe, when Joe Biden was president,
but now that Donald Trump is president, they're voting for
Joe Biden's budget. It's I'm literally one of the only
members of Congress who hasn't flipped their vote on this.
It used to be the other vote way around.

Speaker 5 (02:18:57):
Because you're a you're a fiscal and of course the
constitutional purists and there's are reasons why you wouldn't want
to extend Joe Biden's level funding and I understand that
all day long. But from a strategy standpoint, ignoring the
decide that you and I are both on, it does
make sense to keep that Biden level because that satisfied
the Democrats last year, and that's a wonderful talking point

(02:19:19):
when you're trying to counter their oh my god, we're
all going to die narrative that goes along with this
shutdown in the Republican cr.

Speaker 1 (02:19:27):
And let me tell you something, just to be completely
intellectually honest, Joe Biden's budget because of Joe Biden's inflation,
If you do the same thing dollar for dollar, it's
going to be about five percent less than it was
last year because of inflation. But and so you might say, well,
then Congress and Matthew, why wouldn't you be inclined to

(02:19:50):
vote for Joe Biden's spending levels since inflation will reduce
this and solve the budget problem for you. Well, there's
two reasons. One, spending is policy. It's it's not that
we've spent one point five trillion under Joe Biden and
we're going to spend one point five trillion under Trump.
It's that every line item in there is exactly the

(02:20:10):
same including the things that we cut out in DOGE. Now,
the DOGE cuts were only temporary. So what happens if
Joe Biden's budget passes again, All of the stuff we
cut out using DOGE goes back into the budget, so
and then the DEI stuff, that's all that's all going
to be in there. So it's number one spending his policy.

(02:20:31):
When you do it line by line, if you said, well,
Trump will spend exactly the same amount, diminished by inflation,
but we'll move it around to different priorities, I might
be able to get behind that. Now here's the other
reason I'm not for Joe Biden's budget minus the five
percent inflation because in the Big Beautiful Bill, which was

(02:20:54):
supposed to only deal with mandatory spending, they added about
four hundred billion dollars of discretionary spending. So they put
appropriations in the Big Bill a few months ago on
DOJ that's Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and
Department of Defense. So the Republicans have already plussed up spending.

(02:21:17):
So that even if we passed Joe Biden's budget, which
is what Mike Johnson wants to do and John Dune,
even if we passed Joe Biden's budget, and even if
we can account for inflation diminishing those dollar values, they've
already plussed up the budget a few months ago. And
that's really what they won't tell you on the news.
That's why the Democrats are mad. They didn't get a

(02:21:38):
plus up in their line items and the usual deal
wink wink, nod nod in Washington, d c. Is Republicans
increased their spending and Democrats increased their spending, and that's
how you get to sixty votes in the Senate. So
that's why they're not voting for it. And then they're
making up these other medical things. Those aren't fights. If
the stuff expires into December, then that's when you have

(02:22:01):
the fight in December. They're also trying to undo the
fraud fixes that we put in the big beautiful bill
to keep illegals from getting Medicaid and whatnot. The Democrats
are trying to take that back out. But that's not
the fight that you're supposed to have on these appropriations bills.
This should be only the twelve spending bills, and you're right,

(02:22:22):
we should be back in Washington working on them.

Speaker 5 (02:22:24):
And where they'll have another opportunity to do whatever the
hell they want by way of policy or extending supplements
for people who otherwise don't need it. Let's pausele bring
Congressman Thomas Massey back at eight fifteen, right now fifty
five Kerr CD talk Ryan Thomas and Congressman Thomas Massey.
Congress A Massy, you suggested, and I think it's a
foregone conclusion. You are ultimately going to get your vote

(02:22:47):
on the Epstein file release. And I always like to
use this opportunity as a time to express my dismay
that Trump did a one to eighty. I mean, he
campaigned on releasing the stuff. A lot of Republicans were
demanding it during the Biden administration. Democrats bother pushing to
release the documents when they had the opportunity to do so.
But now they're clamoring to do it. I don't know
what changed. Honestly, no one brings it up anymore except

(02:23:10):
you this morning, for example. But once the government shutdown
is over and people return to work and the recess
is over, there's going to be a vote, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:23:21):
And the government shutdown doesn't have to be over. This
is an act of Congress that doesn't require funding. We
can go back into session, and as soon as we do,
there's a congresswoman named Grihalva who won her election two
weeks ago who hasn't been sworn in. This is also unprecedented,

(02:23:41):
the bigious thing. But we're not in. But the reality
is we have these pro formas sessions every four days
to keep the House and the Senate from going into recess. Ironically,
to keep President Trump from making recess appointments. I don't
agree with it, but that's what they do. Every four
days they meet, and they could swear this congresswoman in
on one of these recess appointments, because they did that

(02:24:03):
with two Republicans already this year. But the Speaker's not
doing it. So as soon as we get back now,
this is what I'm telling you is predicated on an
assumption that none of my three Republican co signers can
be flipped by the White House, because the White House
is trying desperately to get either Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mace,

(02:24:25):
or Lauren Bobert to take their names off of my petition.
But should they succeed in getting one of those women
to take their names off the petition. There's another congressperson
who will be elected in November who will be signing
the discharge petition. So I don't know why they keep

(02:24:46):
dragging this out, whether they just keep fighting to the
bitter end. We should have the vote. They can try
to stop me in the Senate, but they don't. Here's
the thing, Brian, they don't even want to have the vote.

Speaker 5 (02:25:01):
Well, lots of red flags waved over that one. Just
I mean, that just fuels the conspiracy theory narrative out there.
And who are we protecting on this?

Speaker 1 (02:25:11):
Good? Good question, good question. So the victims lawyers have
indicated to me they are at least twenty men who
e Stein trafficked women too, that they gave the names
to the FBI, and the FBI recorded them, memorialized that
in the three h two forms. So we know that

(02:25:31):
the FBI has at least twenty names. I think six
of them are billionaires, one of them is a movie producer,
one is a former politician, one is a current person
in government, one's a CEO. Like I don't know their names,
but these are the indication that the victims lawyers have
given to me, and the reason they don't put out

(02:25:53):
the names is they would be sued into homelessness for defamation.
The government doesn't pursue any of this if they can't,
you get any of the evidence out there, and the
government's in possession of it. So the government needs to
release their names. But here's what I know. I know
the President is trying to protect some top Republican donors
and friends of his in West Palm Beach and I

(02:26:17):
will stand by that and go to my.

Speaker 8 (02:26:19):
Grave on that.

Speaker 5 (02:26:21):
Well, that would explain it, wouldn't it. I mean that
it's not right, but it certainly would make sense as
to how he didn't why he did a one to eighty.

Speaker 1 (02:26:29):
And then the other question is, well if the president's
donors stand to lose in this White and Joe Biden
and the Democrats pursue this when they were in power, right, Well,
it's because once you get to the billionaire class, a
lot of these billionaires are just members of the UNI Party.
They give to whichever party's in power. Who's ever having

(02:26:50):
the best parties? How do you get to the Lincoln
vedom in the White House. So they give to both parties.
And I think you're going to see men implicated who
are friends and donors of both parties in this and
then also finally, this is the conspiracy theory, but there's

(02:27:11):
a lot of weight to it. I introduced five documents
into the record in front of cash Battel a few
weeks ago in our judiciary hearing that indicate that Jeffrey
Epstein was working with National Intelligence MASAD and the CIA.
And I asked, I even asked cash Battel, have you
seen the CIA file on Jeffrey Epstein? He has not so,

(02:27:37):
and there is one. Now, why wouldn't he go look
at that?

Speaker 5 (02:27:42):
Good question?

Speaker 1 (02:27:42):
Well, you know he's allowed to go see that. You
can't keep the director of the FBI because he.

Speaker 5 (02:27:47):
Looks at it, he's going to have to answer your questions.
He can just play ignorance. I don't want to see
it because then I'll have to Then I'll say, yeah,
I do know what's in there. Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:27:57):
I asked cash Battel, have you seen the three ZHO
two forms that the FBI filled out when they interviewed
the victims. He's not seen them. No, he's trusting. His
answer to me was he trusts that the people working
at the FBI would have given him those names if
they were credible evidence, and then my question is do
you not think the victims are credible? Let's the Speaker

(02:28:22):
of the House is trying to say that he's trying
to protect the victims, but my legislation would redact their
names in anything that could be used to identify them
out of the files, and the victims themselves support my legislation.

Speaker 5 (02:28:35):
Yeah, that's the big point right there. Yeah, that he's
making an argument on their behalf that they don't want asserted. Wow, well,
welcome to government. No kid in Congress, Amassi. Let me
ask you a simple, straightforward question, since Judge Ennan Andrew
Napoletana is up next and he's maybe listening but going
to be commenting on this is an opinion from the

(02:28:57):
Office of Legal Counsel within the Justice Department telling Donald
Trump that he is allowed to authorize deadly force use
against well Cartel's because they pose an eminent threat to Americans.
Does a boat fifteen hundred miles away a small boat
maybe goes fifteen to twenty knots? Is that an eminent
threat to the United States of America?

Speaker 1 (02:29:19):
I know somebody who worked in the Office of Legal
Council under Nixon under Reagan, and he's still alive, and
he's in DC, and he advises me, and he says
that department exists just to justify anything the president want.
This man's testified in front of Congress on Iran Contra,

(02:29:40):
like he knows that the Office of Legal Council they
sit over there constructing scaffolding that can go, you know,
ten stories high, and it's built out of bamboo and
lashed together with very weak legal arguments, and they just
rely on Congress not challenging them.

Speaker 5 (02:29:58):
Well, that's kind of the age I expected, Carshon Thomas Massey.
I appreciate the time you spoke my listeners of me
providing some truth in a world where we desperately need
to keep up the great work. I'll look forward today
you return from recess and start working on the appropriation
Bill's Congressman Massy, I'll look forward to having you back
on the show real soon.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
Thank you, Brian, Say hi to the judge for me.

Speaker 5 (02:30:19):
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We're going to find out, uh, well, when President's killed
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Good for an extra fifteen minutes. Coming up next, the
guest who's very happy this morning, Well, because another judge
powered his Yankees to a victory last night.

Speaker 5 (02:31:05):
They're going to need a couple more.

Speaker 12 (02:31:06):
But Judge nap it's next Chuck Ingram on fifty five KARC,
the talk.

Speaker 5 (02:31:11):
Station thirty two if you five KR City Talk station.
Well at least it wasn't goofy or wacky. That was
a rather straightforward introduction. Welcome back to the fifty five
Cars Morning Show, my friend, Judge Napolitano.

Speaker 3 (02:31:26):
Yes, yes it was, and I think if I have
this correct, A thirty eight year old Italian from New
Jersey will soon become the hero of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 4 (02:31:40):
Do I have that right?

Speaker 8 (02:31:42):
You may.

Speaker 5 (02:31:43):
Maybe collectively we've written off the Cincinnati Bengals. You're honor.
I just it's like, you want to be optimistic, but
they give us no reason whatsoever to be optimistic. So
maybe there is an element in there that's optimism.

Speaker 3 (02:31:54):
I feel sorry for Joe Burrow. He's such a talented kid,
but he just keeps getting hurt. I run over and
over again.

Speaker 5 (02:32:03):
Well, that came up in conversation early in the program,
and I think we're blaming management, coaching staff, the owners
for maybe not adequately protecting Joe by Joe Burrow with
a reasonably competent offensive line. But you know, we'll see
how things play out over the long term. All right,
And I love your column. I don't know if you

(02:32:24):
heard me ask Congressom Massey about the Office of Legal
Counsel and Department of Justice giving Donald Trump the keys
to the American military when we face what he believes
to be an eminent threat Congress, and Massey just basically
said that that office is really designed to uphold literally
anything the White House wants to do, regardless of administration.
But I want to pause on that for a moment.

(02:32:44):
And ask you about what I thought was really I
don't know, orwellian the fact that Donald did. Rather all
these elected officials, seven Senators and one member of the
House of Representative in this Arctic Frost investigation launched the
FBI in connection with the January sixth riots. They got

(02:33:04):
their phone records. I we've talked about this kind.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
They have nobody to blame but themselves, right because the statute,
the Electronic Privacy so called Electronic Privacy Act, you know,
the name really is often the misnumber permits FBI agency
get metadata, so it's who you called, when you called,
and how long you spoke. It's not the actual conversation.

(02:33:31):
I've been condemning this as a violation of the Fourth
Amendment since it was first inactive. This is enacted by
the Congress. They probably never imagined that it would happen
to them. That doesn't make it moral, and it doesn't
make it constitutional, but it does make it legal. And
to make it even worse, Brian, this does not require

(02:33:52):
a search warrant signed by a judge. It can be
done by one of two ways. The grand jerry subpoena,
and a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to
sapoena anything or a national security letter chie What is
a national security letter Patriot Act? That's where one FBI
agent authorizes another FBI agent to issue a search warrant

(02:34:18):
on stored records at your lawyer's office, your doctor's office,
your telecom, your computer server. With the loson that I
don't blame is and I frequently disagree with him. As
Senator Holy he was outraged. He was not in the
Senate when this legislation was enacted, but almost everybody else

(02:34:42):
on that committee yesterday was in both parties. In fact,
the chair that's been in the center for thirty years
was around when the original legislation was enacted.

Speaker 5 (02:34:53):
I'm glad you framed it that way. I had a
student listener call and point out the exact same thing.
Republicans or anybody who voted for that. Nobody blamed for
themselves for the fact that it's being used against them
in this particular case. Question of whose ox is being gord,
I suppose.

Speaker 3 (02:35:08):
Right nobody's ox should be gord. They should follow the
Fourth Amendment. If Jack Smith had probable cause to believe
that there was evidence of a crime in a conversation
between I'm just going to use this hypothetically. I don't
know if the conversation happened Senator Josh Howley and President
Trump on January fifth or January sixth. He goes to

(02:35:28):
a federal judge, presents the evidence, and if the judge agrees,
he signs a search warrant. Short of that, not neither
Jack Smith nor any prosecutor, under any circumstances has the
right to surveil communications. But the Congress has butchered that
in a series of legislation, going back to legislative acts,

(02:35:48):
going back to be four, nine to eleven. I believe
it or not, what left wing pinko creep signed the
first of these laws allowing the government to get your bank.

Speaker 5 (02:36:00):
Records George Bush right, Ronald Raye.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
Nineteen eighty six. So this stuff goes way back. It
was of course accelerated after nine to eleven. After nine
to eleven you have the Patriot Act and a slew
of amendments to it, every single one of which makes
surveillance without a search warn't easier. But the original damage
was done in nineteen eighty six under the so called

(02:36:26):
Bank Privacy Act, which gave the FEDS the right to
look at banking information. When you deposited more than ten
thousand dollars in one deposit, that's that's what opened up
these floodgates.

Speaker 5 (02:36:43):
And when you frame it that way, I just scratched
my head and wonder, why what possible? I mean, well,
what cartels are using in drug dealers and futalizing in
those days.

Speaker 3 (02:36:54):
In those days we were at the tail end of
the drug wars, which had destroyed the Fourth Amendment. And
fear of drug dealers is what animated Congress Post nine
to eleven. Of course, it is fear of terrorism. And
what is it now? Whatever Donald Trump says, it is

(02:37:15):
fear of immigrants, fear of narco terrorists, fear of whatever
you want to be afraid of. In terms of what
Congressman Massey said, I had an Internet problem on my
previous gig and I was not able to jump on.
Of course, I agree with everything he says. But the
Office of Legal Counsel was once the DOJ's lawyers. You'll
know the names of two people who, in their younger

(02:37:38):
days ran the Office of Legal Counsel. One of them
is named William Rehnquist and the other is named Antonin
Scalia These were truly the brightest stars in the DOJ.
They told the DOJ the law as they understood it.
They were impervious to politics no longer today. I am

(02:37:59):
die to see this so called secret memorandum that she has.
How can analysis of a public law possibly be secret?

Speaker 5 (02:38:08):
I know I was going to ask you about that.
He's not going to reveal a memo to the general public,
even though CNN is widely reported on it. But eminent
threat isn't that a rather subjective measure when it comes
to determined whether they're going to use military force. And
I go back to the boats, he's blown up. I
don't like drugs. I don't want him in in the

(02:38:28):
United States. But you know that's what we have a
coastguard for. If they get close to us, then we
can pick him up in process.

Speaker 3 (02:38:35):
How could four guys in a speedboat fifteen hundred miles
from the US, unarmed or maybe with just small arms,
you know, handguns, possibly be considered an eminent threat to
the national security of the United States. The answer is
they can't. And even if they were an eminent threat,
it would make much more sense to arrest them, search

(02:38:59):
the boat. If there's drugs there, seze the assets and
then engage in plean negotiations with one of them to
find out where the drugs came from and who their
sources are. There are ways to accomplish these goals without
murdering people.

Speaker 5 (02:39:18):
Yeah, no question about it. Go about the normal course
of business. Pick them up. They obviously can have committed
a crime. Look, it's a drug drug. It's a boat
full of drugs. That's against law. You're in our territory
of waters. You're going to be subject to prosecution. I
die anyhow. It's just troubling from my perspective, and I
worry you know a lot of my listeners. I think
I hate drug dealers. I don't care that they blew out.

(02:39:38):
I don't care if it violates constitution. Well I do,
because somebody else is going to be in office someday. Yeah,
and they may decide that some organization that we don't
believe necessarily representing them in THREATSKA starts getting bombed because
of their political ideology or their geopolitical ideology or whatever
have you. It's so low a standard. And we're talking
about America's military here at minimum, And you and I

(02:40:00):
I think agree on this point, we don't believe authorizations
for use of military force quite cut the constitutional declaration
of war standard. But at least get Congress to agree
with you and say, yes, you're right, we stamp of
approval authorize you some military force because we believe this
to be an eminent threat. We can ask that out.

Speaker 3 (02:40:19):
Right right, it's very, very dangerous.

Speaker 14 (02:40:24):
I got a little alarmist and hyperbolic at the end
of my column saying who are they going to shoot next?

Speaker 3 (02:40:31):
Drug dealers in Chicago? But their logic for killing people
before they commit crime is the same logic we could
out outside the territory of warders of the United States.

Speaker 15 (02:40:44):
Is the same logic that they could apply to people
inside the United States.

Speaker 3 (02:40:50):
By the way, how can it be a federal crime
even if they were carrying drugs from Caracas to some
island off the coast of Caracas. What business of the
federal government is that? Does federal law apply everywhere on
the planet.

Speaker 5 (02:41:08):
Don't tell them that they may get that idea, your honor,
and we'll start bombing targets all over the world without
with reckless abandon Judge Enna Politano, logic. Reason is always
on the plate when we talk with you, and I
appreciate the willingness to come on the program every week
and have these great conversations.

Speaker 3 (02:41:23):
Ran Brian, It's my favorite morning and I love being
able to chat with you no matter what the Yankees
or the Reds or the Bengals, or I hate to
even mention this, the football team New York Giants are going.

Speaker 5 (02:41:38):
It was strained for you to get those words out
real quick, judging freedom is we or is podcast? Who
are you going to be speaking with today, your honor about.

Speaker 3 (02:41:45):
Eleven this morning Eastern I have the great Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Colonel McGregor and I spent a weekend together giving this
past weekend in a beautiful place in the United States, Dallas, Texas,
where we were well received by the people to whom
we spoke. But he's warning that war whether Iran is imminent,
and he's going to describe American, not Israeli American preparations

(02:42:09):
for that war. Does Iran pose a threat to the
national security of the United States? Not one bit? But
we're getting ready.

Speaker 5 (02:42:19):
It's gonna be a fascinating conversation, if not trouble and
jud Jenna Polatano Until next Wednesday. God bless you sir.
Have a great week.

Speaker 3 (02:42:25):
Thank you, Brian, all the best.

Speaker 5 (02:42:27):
Take care, my friend. It's eight forty three right now.
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(02:42:48):
Donovan and Neil, a whole bunch of stuff you and
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(02:43:10):
So action item right there for you and I. Lincoln
fifty five Cares dot com. Of course, Congressman Massi on
the shutdown and it's connection maybe with the Epstein files, Wow,
red flag all over that, and of course Judge Napolitano
fifty five Caroosee dot Comye Trihart Metia amp Wire over
there as well. I started out the morning show talking
about this it we have a choice here, flipped the natty,

(02:43:34):
says Corey Bowman. Corey Bowman running from Mary. He's a
pretty darn good guy, and I've talked to him a
whole bunch of times on the Morning Show, as you
know if you listen regularly, and not once, not once,
has he ever tried to hang his hand on the
fact that he is the half brother of jd Vance,
Vice President jd Vance's half brother, which is constantly, constantly
the drum beat from the media. He's got, really, I mean,

(02:43:58):
other than a partial Bloodlin connection. He's running to serve
the City of Cincinnati residents, and he's very clear on
that all residents. He's not springing from particularly right wing perspective.
He just realizes that we have priorities in the city
and keeping roads paved and cracking down on crime, seeing

(02:44:19):
that criminals are held accountable, to create a better environment
for you and me. Cutting out all the green New
Deal woke stuff that we can't afford, even if it
was it was going to do something. And to anybody
out there that thinks that city taxpayer money should go
toward green projects. Ask yourself, what the hell can the

(02:44:41):
city of Cincinnati alone accomplish doing this. They're not doing
it Warren County. They're not doing in Butler County. They're
not doing it in Claremont County. They're not doing it
in Newport, they're not doing it in Covington. I could
go on, probably because maybe they don't have the financial
resources to accomplish some carbon neutrality exercise or green energy
duction exercise, but because maybe they practically say, gee, well,

(02:45:03):
we're all breathing the same air. It's one big globe
they are circulating and everything the entire country has done
the name of carbon or cutting back carbon dioxide aka
plant food hasn't done a wit to reduce the amount
of carbon dioxide in the environment, thanks to China and
India and Turkey and other very large producers of greenhouse gases,

(02:45:24):
which I personally don't believe. Carbon dioxide is a pollutant
to naturally occurring phenomenon. The plants need to live, so
it occurs in the natural environment. It's critical for the
functioning of the planet. So what in the hell is
the city getting involved with something that even if they
achieve their long term objectives, and they could wave a

(02:45:46):
flag saying we're carbon neutral in Cincinnati. What's it going
to do for everybody in the world. Nothing, so long
winded way of saying that's I think that's backcrap insanity
from the left. Do we want to allocate that as
a priority? I think that Corey Bowman would not. Well,
wait till after we get the roads fixed, Wait till
after we get these big projects over with, Wait till

(02:46:07):
after we get the crime situation ironed out, Wait till
after we bring more investments by lowering the regulatory burden
and getting things built and things accomplished. I mean, he's
hit the nail on the head of all the problems
the city has created, most notably created intentionally, I suppose,
making it more difficult for us to live, thrive, and

(02:46:28):
survive in the city. So what has that got to
do with Jade Vance? Literally nothing headlined from Scott Warman
to the Inquire in Cincinnati. Jd Vance's half brother hopes
for a political earthquake in mayoral race. That's the headline.
Did we put Corey Bowman in the headline this time around?
The Republican Kennedy mentions Winster of presidy since nay Mayor

(02:46:49):
happens to be Vice President jd Vance's half brother. And
then two paragraphs into the article he finally mentions Corey Bowman,
and not the only time he mentions jd Vance's half brother.
I think it's brought up three or four times in
the article, and of course the article concludes making the

(02:47:11):
point again to the extent you didn't get it from
the headline or in the body of reporting. There it
is at the close. But it's Bowman's family that has
drawn much of the attention. His half brother is Vice
President jd Vance. That sentence the second last sentence in
the article. So we start with Jadie Vance's half brother,

(02:47:33):
we have references to that throughout the body of the article,
and we conclude with that point. Why do you think
that's been the dominant subject matter, Scott?

Speaker 1 (02:47:43):
What