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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Station five oh five fifty five k r C the
talk station. Wednesday Tuesday, some sense will call Kenny Loggins

(00:32):
because you're in the danger zone. Yes, indeed, it is
a happy Wednesday. Try I feel I feel a lot
better than yesterday. Thank you. I'm glad, I said I
it was dizzy yesterday out loud because what are the
listeners diagnosed my problem and they're secure for it. Yeah,
that that weird vertigo feeling. It's strange, but there is

(00:53):
uh And thank you John Newsom for letting me know
that you struggled with the same problem and did that
little bit of therapy in the whole after watching a
YouTube video and the problem has gone away. It's cool anyway,
So moving on with my life. Feel free to call
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three top pound FI fifty on AT and T phones
coming up seven oh five. The big picture with Jack
adid in question is consensus dead. Oh, by the way,
the government is still shut down, so maybe it is.
Jack add in at seven o five. I always enjoy
those conversations. Brilliant He is Americans for Prosperities. Donovan and

(01:34):
Neil returns at seven thirty talking about the Taxpayer Torch Awards.
Then we'll hear from Michael Mercer, who's doing an empower
use seminar on how to use chat GPT. I've used
that before only for exercises and comedic relief, like song
lyrics for Greta Thunberg, which was I thought that was hilarious. Anyway,

(01:58):
Scott Wortman from the Cinsinni Inquirer been doing some reporting
on what's going on in the city of Cincinnati, which
we can start with this morning. We'll talk about the
council race and the mayoral race between aft tab and
of course on the rundown. It's not Corey Bowman, it's
Jade Vans's half brother. We have to ask Scott Wortman
White he keeps referring to him as jd Vance's half

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brother as opposed to Corey Bowman, who's actually running from
the Mary of Cincinnati. So anyhow, Jay ratlifts on the
bar And if you can get a chance to listen
live to the podcast, I five care see dot com
Daniel Davis deep dive in the developments in the Middle
East and Russian and Ukraine. Inside Scoop with Bright Bart
News Nick gilbertson the White House, Capitol Hill Reporter. Also

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on the amazing unfolding of the peace agreement between Israel
and Hamas. Apparently there's still some Hamas murders going on,
some executions in the street and in fighting among the
various factions, which I did talk about with Daniel Davis yesterday.
Aaron Weiner, since a city council I thought he had

(03:01):
some really sound ideas for dealing with the police and
pivoting over the police. We had FOP President Ken Kober
talking about the violence downtown Monday night, which has led
through the mayor to realize, yes, there is an election
coming up, so I better do something. Since I've been
ignoring the reality of crime and telling everyone that it
doesn't exist. It's not a problem. Oh no, no, your
perception is wrong. There's no crime. It's all down in

(03:22):
downtown Cincinnati and not. According to his announcement yesterday, I
have to have Pearl Vall says, more actions going to
be taken to try to halt the criminal problem we
have downtown. Mayor call it on ongoing gun violence. Absolutely
intolerable quote absolutely intolerable close quote the gun violence. We

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had a couple of shootings in the last couple of days,
but that's been a common occurrence. A SAW statistic. Maybe
it was in the Fox nineteen reporting on the number
of Based on the data, there have been two hundred
and twenty five gun violence victims since the beginning of
twenty twenty five January through October fourteenth, two one hundred

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and twenty five gun violence victims, most of whom between
the ages of twenty six and thirty or in the
other age group between the ages of sixteen and twenty.
Most of the shootings over the Rhine District one, Winton
Hills District four, Avondale District four, west End District one,
Walnut Hills District two, and the Central Business District coming

(04:29):
in at number seven apparently in terms of volume of crime,
although you only hear about the violence in the Business district.
So the civil perv All announced several new safety measures
since he hasn't really done anything before. The and Corey
Bowman's were the reactive nature of Mayor aft Tab Pervall's

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policies as opposed to being proactive and getting in front
of them in response to the gun violence, per All
announce and policies. First, the Civil Disturbance Response Team and SWAT.
We'll be on the ground of Fountain Square from two
pm to ten pm every day. Hey Joe, is there

(05:13):
violence after ten pm in that area? Yeah? Right, Oh no,
everyone's going to bed. That's because his curfew has been expanded.
Hm hm, that's right. Purv Ale Planning Team is going
to be introducing new legislation to city council members to
enforce an earlier curfew in the Fountain Square district. Well,

(05:37):
what about the other areas that are having problems with
violent crime that I just mentioned in order? I guess
it sucks to be you. So if you live on
Fountain Square, I guess you're going to see an increase
in police presence, it says the warning. Just if you
are an unsupervised team, he said, and you're breaking curfe,

(06:00):
we will move you or we will arrest you. He says.
It doesn't go for just those breaking curfew and Fountain Square.
He says, it's everywhere within the urban core. I don't
know what the definition of urban core is. I would
like to think that if you have a curfew in

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the city of Cincinnati would apply equally to all the neighborhoods,
because all the neighborhoods apparently are reporting some measure of
criminal problems and what concern what parent who really cares
about the well being of their young people would let
their kids run around in the city of Cincinnati in
the middle of the night. Maryrek says it's also talking

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with SORDA officials to try to deconcentrate transportation from Government Square.
Give Mary Labass over Fox nineteen reporting for the quote
that I just read, which cracks me up, because Ken
Kober talked about that. Why in the hell are we
dumping all of the school aged children at govern Square?
He said, you know, that's close to all kinds of businesses,

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businesses that are open and stay open in later hours,
giving the young people a reason to hang around in
Government Square. So you get different youngsters from different areas
of town who apparently don't get along with each other.
It's almost like gang members. They're not gang members necessarily,
they're just from different hoods. So, yeah, you're from over there,
I'm from over here. Let's fight, let's have a disagreement.

(07:25):
Let's be basically teenagers being idiots, which all teenagers tend
to be idiots from time to time anyway, But when
you're shoving them all into a concentrated environment like Government
Square with a lot of things to do around it,
you end up with a problem on your hands. So
Ken Cobra says, how about that Second Street Transferred transfer area.
There is a site that was built for the purpose

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of doing exactly what is done in Government Square, except
there's nothing around. It's this big concrete area, no draw
Second Street. So if you just move they pick up
drop off point over to there. There's no reason for
the teens to hang out after they get dropped off
or picked or well dropped off. So is that what

(08:07):
I have to have? Parwall's now considering de concentrating transportation
from Government Square. It's got to go somewhere. Maybe he
was listening to my conversation with Ken Kobry yesterday, don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
So.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Parvoll's comments come in response to in the aftermath of
as a reaction to the shootings happening outside the City
Bird on Fountain Square, which were reported on Monday, two
to three shots into the business windows. A sixteen year
old boy nineteen year old man both shot. According to

(08:43):
police Chief Teresa Thiji, the suspect in the shooting quote
no newcomer to crime close quote describing him as a
twenty four year old man who was previously convicted of
two counts of Filonius assault in February of this year
and is currently on probation. How's that working out for
the criminal justice system? And so also perhaps in a

(09:14):
related note with a nod to signal ninety nine, which
I would recommend you follow on Facebook, I think current
or former police officer Signal ninety nine. A woman who
regularly comments about the realities going on in downtown Cincinnati
cited this as a connection to crime, although Brittany Ruby Miller,

(09:37):
the CEO of Jeff Ruby Culinary Entertainment, in this statement
didn't really necessarily say it was crime that was getting
them out of the neighborhood. They are leaving the neighborhood.
We made a difficult decision to choose to close Lampka
our events space and relocate our corporate offices would share
a building at seven hundred Wall Street due to a

(09:58):
landlord dispute regarding safety protocols. She writes. While recent news
is highlighted the broader challenges downtown, including crime around Fountain Square,
this decision is unrelated, right sure, it is. It underscores
how critical strong and collaborative relationships with building owners and
landlords are during these times. Jefferby's Catering will continue to

(10:19):
operate out of our existing restaurants, and we remain deeply
committed to the City of Cincinnati and look forward to
sharing our updates soon. But this is that statement from
yesterday saying that we're closing this facility and moving someplace else.
Notice that she didn't specify where they're moving. But Brittany

(10:44):
gave a statement to Fox nineteen about the violence specifically,
aside from the closing announcement, this is a separate statement.
Like so many community leaders and citizens, I am deeply
frustrated not only by the violence of the Curtain Fountain
Square last night, the shooting at City Bird, but also
by the continued pattern of crime our city has experienced
in recent months. She said. Over the past three months,

(11:05):
I dedicated a significant time in meeting bi weekly with
the Mayor and staying in close communication with the sin
Say Please Department, hamlt County share ourself as Governor Mike
Dwinesteam Senators Marino in Houston, including conversations as recent as
this morning yesterday I'm hopeful that with the next twenty
four hours there will be an announcement outlining a robust
strategy to aggress these ongoing issues crime, which Mayor Afteb

(11:30):
Perval did in making his announcement. While we may not
always see eye to I am grateful to our city
leadership listens and remains open to feedback. I also want
to acknowledge she writes that I am not the only
business leader stepping up. This has been a heavy lift
for all of us, and many key leaders across our
cities share this sentiment and are working tirelessly behind the

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scenes to drive meaningful change and restore safety and confidence downtown.
And then skipping ahead the closing sentence, and I thought
this was rather revealing. And it's open voting right now,

(12:17):
Hamilton County Board of Elections, Head on over and vote.
The November election is fast approaching. And here's what her
closing sentence was. Change only happens when the pain of
staying the same exceeds the pain of change. And to

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the voters in the City of Cincinnati, do you plan
on staying the same or has the pain exceeded the
pain that you may or perhaps may not feel, if
you vote for a change, if things aren't good now

(12:58):
and you have an opportunity to go in a different
direct action. As Corey Bowman said, anything that you flat
out disagree with with regard to his perceptions of crime
and his ideas about how to deal with it. Yeah,
nothing frightening there. Five eighteen fifty five care see the
talk station. Feel free to chime in, love to hear

(13:19):
from you. Always love when listeners call in, so you
can do that. Five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three talk. I'll
be right back.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Take a look at what's going on every single day.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Sorry, I'm going to go over to the phones. Get
Jay here. Five and three seven fifty eight hundred two
three talk. I just got an email from a Judge
Napolitano saying he's going to really miss our conversation this morning.
He is traveling abroad and just wanted to reply to
the good judge there. Jay, Thanks for calling this morning.
Welcome back, my friend.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Hey, thanks Brian, glad you're failing better.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh amazing, Like night and day man crazy, My.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Kid went through that.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
And we didn't know what was going on and going
on YouTube found that same procedure and it's amazing. So
I didn't think of it. Some other smarter caller did,
which is a good reason. You've got a lot of
callers out there, some brighter than others.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
So if you are experiencing this, it's a vertigo. It's
like positional vertigo, I think, is what they call it.
Bpp V. Look up Epley ep l e Y maneuver.
It's easy, lay on the side of the bed. It
takes like five minutes to go through the whole thing.
And I did it twice yesterday and I am completely

(14:35):
vertigo free. So I may have to do this from
time to time, but it is considered the gold standard
to deal with it. There are no drugs that can
hear the problem. There's nothing else you can really do.
But if you've got this, it's it worked. So thank
you to my listener who identified the problem. Then whoever
commended Epley maneuver. I found it on YouTube, so there
you have it.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Jay, Well good, Well, I want to just give the
daily update. We're up to seventy billion dollars saved. However, however,
twenty billion dollars was given to Argentina by President Trump yesterday.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I get all that.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, we're going to buy their democracy. It's a I
don't know if you've ever heard about this or that,
but it's a proven track record. You could take a
look at North Vietnam, North Korea, around the globe. I
think probably even we threw money at China once upon
a time. It works out really well. Did you just
take taxpayer dollars and throw it at a country that

(15:33):
might be teetering to go back to socialism or communism
and not, you know, choose freedom. You take taxpair dollars
and you throw it at them, and it works every
time it's tried.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Hey, Jay, is just like paying young people to not
commit crimes?

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, I think so. I think so.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
It's like a guy like a gun buy back. It's
all all good government ideas. Speaking of which I thought
yesterday you said it very succinctly about the property tax,
and I don't remember exactly how you said it, but
more or less I'm going to paraphrase it, maybe to

(16:13):
kind of bound it or put it in a box
A little bit better. Is that whenever people run for government,
they've asked for the job. Just like in my career,
there have been times where I have walked into businesses
that have been on fire bad. One was losing thirty
million dollars a year, was a cash cow and then
all of a sudden losing money. And when you take

(16:34):
those jobs, you know it's risk high reward. You're going
to be part of the turnaround team or you're not
going to be there very long. They will find someone
else who could figure out how to manage the business
to get it back on its feat And that's exactly
what we heard your number one. We did Okay, we
were still losing money, and word on high came down,

(16:57):
are you guys the team or just another team, because
we'll have to go find other people if you don't
get it together. We didn't make the problem, but we
asked for the job. And same thing with everybody who's
sitting up in Columbus doing nothing. They've had twenty years
and it's still I still don't even understand why we
have to do a petition drive when the Supreme Court

(17:19):
said you can't fund schools through property tax? Where is
the is the Attorney General the right person who would
be stepping in on this bride.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Who is the right person?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I think we lack an enforcement mechanism, you know, the
whole concept of standing to go into court. You might think, well,
they're violating the Supreme Court ruling that says our current
funding mechanism is unconstitutional. That, Jay, you could stand up
and say, I want to be the plaintiff who sues
the State of Ohio for failing to heed the Supreme

(17:50):
Court decision and reform our school funding mechanism. But I
don't think you have standing to do that. Who does
maybe at one of the elected officials probably reluctant to
engage that. But it's a very complicated issue, as evidence
by the fact that more than two decades have passed
since we were told our current funding mechanisms unconstitutional. So yeah,

(18:12):
wouldn't it.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Be something that it was just that easy if some
person would raise their hand or probably accring General's office, it's.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
A hey, I like it sounds like a great idea, Jay,
And nobody wants to gravitate towards that than me. Until
you realize that we have three hundred and forty million
people in our country, and probably half of them would
run into court and start trying to enforce what they
perceived to be a violation of the law because well

(18:39):
they formerly lack standing and run into court to do that. Yeah,
I think there would be an overwhelming number of people.
There's some middle ground in there. I don't know how
to reach the middle grounds where we can have a
rational lawsuit, Like, wait a second, doesn't it seem ripe
for a resolution in court if our elected officials are
continuing to violate the law.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Yeah, but you know, it might might be a great
question for AFT along. And I don't mean to, like,
you know, tell you what to do on your show,
but I would also love for AFT. They did such
a great job with that Foyer request years ago where
they forced the government to reveal Medicaid fraud by state.

(19:21):
They call it improper payments. That's cleaning up the right word,
which is fraud.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
They were hurry up round of the time, you know,
hurry up, r out of time.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
All right, all right, Hey, don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.
And as Bobby says, don't feed the pig. Have a
good day, Brian.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'm sorry to push you to the conclusion, but we
had to get there. Five twenty eight fifty five care
Se the Talk Stations A Happy One, Big Picture with
Jack Evidan at seven oh five of our first guest
on the morning show, calls were always welcome here. You're
going to pivot over to the phones at five one three,
seven fifty two to three, talk and take Tom's call.
Welcome back, Tom, are always good to hear from you.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
They're good morning. And I just passed Cincinnati Date Road
and prices or per gas are pretty low. How much
people know if they're in the area. Well, I saw
on the sign two forty four. Uh, and so if
you have a loyalty thing with a particular national chain,

(20:16):
you get into two thirties. Wow, yep, yes, so good,
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I wish I had a cost of living calculator and
I could calculate how much a gallon of gas was,
say ten years ago, and compared to today. So I
suspect a lot cheaper to the day than it was
ten years ago.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Yeah, if I remember correctly, Trump's last term, there was
an average price thrown around and it was into two thirties.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
So yeah, that bad for the value of the dollar
has decreased dramatically since we threw like eight trillion dollars
of printed currency into these systems since then.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, it's just money. It's just money. Yeah, okays, it's
just money. It's only money, right, Brian, Yeah, exactly. But
let's get Jay back in here talking. It's uh, I
wanted to switch gears real quick. We're talking about the
crime uh down downtown and I there's there's a lot

(21:13):
of things that contribute to the crime everywhere, not not
just in Cincinnati. But we we had a particular incident
on one of our job sites. We're a young man
and and this story is about this young man. It's
not about everybody else that's like him. I want to
make that clear to anybody listening. So young man comes
on the job site. He is in clear violation of

(21:35):
one of our safety rules, which we we we have
been hammering for a long time. It's just there's things
that we have to do at work safety wise, and
it's not optional, it's not negotiable. Uh So, uh, he
comes in in the morning, he's a clear violation. He's
asked to leave, go home. Let's try this again. One
of the things that we have at our disposal is

(21:55):
foreman for corrective measures is send people home. Right you're
you're You're done for the day, whether it's half a
day or whatever, you know, go home. You violated a
rule and it's and it's a rather egregious rule. Well,
this young man decides he doesn't want to go home,
and he decides to make a scene. And what a
scene it was, and just absolutely go off on anyone

(22:18):
and everyone that he could possibly think of, and and
uh just raise a big ruckus make there in front
of everybody else. And this is a young black man,
and he decides to turn things racial and accuse people
of being racist because he's being sent home for violating
a rule that he violated. Nobody made him do anything,

(22:39):
nobody else contributed to it. He's the one that broke
this rule.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
And I presume the rule the rule was and that
he violated had no connection with his race.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
Absolutely other people of other races have all have been
sent home very recently by the same foreman. So it's
you know, but this guy, he decides that that's what
where he's going to go with it to the to
the point where I mean, he it's took a while
to give him off the job, and that's the shase,
but it's it's it's you're violating a rule, a well

(23:11):
known rule. It's obvious that you need to do these things.
We've made it very clear to you. We've had discussions
upon discussions and it and it turns to like races
and excuse and so again, this story is about this
young man and and what we and I and I
know this young man. I I've I've met him, I've

(23:31):
he's worked on jobs I've been on before, I've dealt
with stuff with him. You know, Uh, it's not a
shot what happened, but uh, now determined to go a
little farther, whether we have seen other other things happen
in our community and in the country where racism is
being brought up for excuses. It's a it's a deflection,

(23:52):
it's an excuse, it's a reason and it and and
it's been drummed into people's heads by the left that
race is an excuse. There are some terrible things that
have happened, absolutely no one's denying it. There is racism
that has gone on systemically, and there are still things
that happen daily that are racist. But it is not

(24:16):
an excuse. And when you pull it out of thin
air and apply it to something has nothing to do
with what's going on, you are making a fool of yourself.
You are showing people that it doesn't matter what is
right or what is wrong. I have an excuse, well,
and I'm going to make such a ruckus that you're

(24:36):
going to let me get away with whatever. And that's
just not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
No any what else. Tom, And I've mentioned this before,
you're doing a disservice to those who actually experience genuine
episodes of racism. You're watering down the argument to delegitimize
it under all circumstances. Like the boy who cried wolf.
You know, at one point, it's really going to be
a wolf and everybody's going to be sick of hearing
you screaming about it and not believe you.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
All right, And this young man even went so far
as to rip people for being Charlie Kirk's supporters, as
if Charlie Kirk had anything to do with this issue.
I mean so, and again, this story is about this
particular individual, and I'm not applying this to everybody else.

(25:22):
We have all seen people. We have all seen people
locally and nationally who decide to go off a rabbit trail,
away from a discussion, away from an issue, and talk
about something that has nothing to do with what's going on,
and won't stay on topic because they can't. They can't
defend their position because there is no defense of their position.

(25:44):
And it doesn't matter which side of the isle you're on,
stay on topic, deal with the discussion, answer the question,
actually talk about the subject at hand, and don't go
off a rabbit trail. It's like people talk about any
given subject and all of a sudden, we're talking about Trump.
What the hell does Trump got to do? And we
you know, it varies so and and obviously the side

(26:05):
that is most guilty of this will be the left,
and they especially going with racism. The race card is
pulled out time and time again when it has nothing
to do with anything. And and you need if you're
in a position where you got decisions to make, you
have to learn to ignore that stuff. If you're going
into a voting boot, you have to ignore that noise

(26:26):
and that crap, and and and get rid of people
who are not doing any good for society or not helping,
who are just coming up with prat throwing it out
there just to make it seem like they're trying to
do something pure bole and and they're not really getting
anything done. Let's talk to people and listen to people
who actually have solutions and they're not coming up with

(26:47):
crazy garbage, and let's get them in there and hopefully
get some change. Don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat.
Have a great day, Bryan.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
City Talk Station and going back to the Jeff Ruby
own if you do have Kcity Talk Station e Wednesday.
Let's see real quick here before I get to the
stack of stupid. Unless you want to call, feel free
to call my sister for to be an email. There's
a place called worleywr l e Y auctioneers dot com
and the city of Cincinnati apparently is auctioning off a

(27:20):
whole bunch stuff cars, firearms, me anything you want to
anything consider. I was looking at the list right now.
The bid is only five hundred and eleven dollars. If
you're interested in the most highest, the highest velocity of
any production revolver on earth. They have a Smith and
Wesson for sixty XVR revolver twenty four hundred pound feet. Yeah,

(27:45):
that's quite a cannon. Handcann it right there. Anyway, Whirley
Auctions is the place to go city. I got great
cars on there and prices look pretty good. So anyhow,
over to the stack of stupid heavily armed Amazon delivery
driver ponder that one claimed he he shot a US
Postal Service employee in the face under the assumption that

(28:06):
the postal worker was a mafia assassin. What Twenty six
year old Blake Michael Coleman arrested charged with felony first
degree assault in connection with the deadly shooting took place
October third in an apartment complex in Everett, Washington. Police
said he admitted his shooting the mail carrier in the
head and insisting that the open fire was in self defense.

(28:27):
Authlready say the victims survived the injuries but will lose
an eye. Rest report included what Coleman told police detectives
about how the confrontation escalated into violence. Quote. Coleman indicated
this was in self defense because the US Postal Service
worker was trying to charge at him while Coleman was cornered.
Just thank you, Joe. Coleman recounted how the USPS worker

(28:50):
had smiled at him before lunging forward with both of
his arms behind him in a charging motion. Coleman explained
the USPS worker didn't have any packages in his arms
at the time, and that Coleman felt that he was
about to be tackled. Witness told police the version of
events didn't line up with what Coleman had told them. Quote.
I saw the mailroom door close in an argument between

(29:12):
the USPS man and the Amazon man. USPS man shoved
the Amazon driver and shouted, why the f are you
shoving me? Amazon driver then pulled out a pistol and
shot the USPS man in the head close Quote what
the hell? Time of the altercation. Coleman reported the arm
with two firearms, a bullet proof plate carrier, large knife,

(29:34):
and a pistol magazine holder, which were all concealed under
his Amazon uniform. Told detectives he carried the bulletproof vest
because he'd been shot by rifles and crossbows while on
the jobs He's lease had. He never reported the incidents
to the police because there was no evidence. Right whatever.
Also claimed he was being cyber stalked by the mafia

(29:55):
and had suspicions that USPS workers may have been a
mafia assassin. Whatever, Thank you, Liam. I think the guy's
been smoking too much weed. He's struggling with a psychotic episode.
Corner of the interview, he continued asserting that this was
a clear case of self defense and he was experienced.
He was expecting to get all of his property back

(30:16):
and surprised that he was being booked into jail. Company
Amazon requires delivery service partners to conduct background checks for
their employees. Police have not identified the victim of the shooting,
and he remains in jail on a one million dollar bond.
How could you not identify the victim? Got shot in
the head? Five forty six right now? Fifty five Kersee

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stacked stupid? But I do they call her online? Let's
get see what Mississippi James has got this morning. Welcome back, James.
Always good to hear from you, my friend.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Hey, good morning, I come in peace, love everyone. There's
nothing you can do about it. Amen, Okay, I like
to respond to Tom. He just said about ten different
things yeah, he was, Yeah, and I was saying, I
agree with that. Oh, I disagree with that. I agree

(31:29):
with that. So my head was going back and forth.
Now the stuff I was saying that I disagree with him.
I can help him out because it seemed like he
brought his conclusion from the way he see the world.
But if he's willing to see it from another side,
he may have a different opinion.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Offer theective James, go ahead, offer the perspective, right right.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
But when you just look at stuff from one side
and you see the problem, get a solution from one side,
it's gonna all stay there.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, you make this point regularly. I think people know
where you're coming from, James. So tell Tom and explain
to Tom your perspective so we can put things into context.

Speaker 8 (32:11):
Well, there was about ten different things there, so I
can't do it here. I just putting it out there, like, yeah,
I know, that's that's my point. I like to get
it to a bigger arena, you know, than just sound
bites so it can move on. Because I can't. I
can't recall right off what he was saying. I just
remember head say, well, I agree with that, I disagree,

(32:32):
I agree, you know, move so fast. Yeah, So that's
what I'm saying. Until we, as a community group or whatever,
get into a form, and maybe you should be able
to set up something, get a couple of people we
can sit down and have a think taint that we
can have time to break break down these different you know,

(32:53):
out of this group of people feel that way, so
maybe they have him In the future we could get together.
I keep pushing for a think to that with a form,
we'll see we've got a whole lot more in common
than we have.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Difference, James, if people have shared your perspective on how
to view life, in other words, put yourself in another
man's position, try to view things from their perspective. Don't
come in with one sided view of everything, and without
keeping your mind open to different perspectives, we would all
live in a better world. There are forms, there are

(33:26):
think tanks, there are people harrumphing together around roundtables all
the time. But quite often you're met with what I'll
boil down to name calling. You know, It's like, you know,
you try to engage in debate and the minute someone
goes into name calling, you know you won the debate
because they can't offer anything except to name call. That
to me is the winning argument. If you get someone
to call your name, you win argument. But if you

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just are engaged in exchange of ideas, that's a healthy concept.
And from my perspective, and I think I've benefited immeasurably
from being a litigation attorney for sixteen years. You know
why is because you don't get to determine the facts.
You're a lawyer. You've got a client, here's what happened,
defend them.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Now.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Quite often you're not in a position to really maybe
want to defend them, or they're on shaky ground, so
you have to open your mind up and figure out
ways to defend them. And that's what you're saying, listen,
eight one size fits all. Sure they're claiming this, but
is there an alternative viewpoint to what they're saying. That's
what a lawyer does, comes up with the defense for

(34:28):
a client that may literally be on shaky ground. Then
you have an obligation in your clients say listen, you
know you have a kind of a shaky argument and
may be a good case to settle, offer them counsel
and tell them maybe it's not their night. But there's
always an argument that can be made, and that's what
you need to search for. So I've walked into cases
before where I thought there's no way, this is ridiculous,
blah blah blah blah blah, only to be put in

(34:49):
a position where I've got to find something that's that
going to the other side and figuring it out. So
it's easy to do, but you've got to be willing
to do it. And you're right, James, you should think
about it from somebody else's perspective. As I pointed out before,
I have no way of knowing what you've been through
in your life. You're older than me, You're a black

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American man who has lived in Mississippi and other areas.
You've seen bad things in your life that I never
have seen. So put that into the equation some other
person out there. Have you walked a mile in James's shoes?
At least try to grasp the perspective they're coming from
and then formulate what you perceive to be a better

(35:33):
argument or a better solution while taking into consideration what
that person has been through. Doesn't mean you're gonna come
to a different conclusion necessarily, but at least you can
address the concerns that the other side is expressing constructive debate.
And I know James, you're all about constructive debate. Five

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for the United Nations, as my dad would say, and
it ain't happy birthday, and talk about that coming up
today's top stories. I have to talk about it here.
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six stip about kr CD talk station. Happy Wednesday. I
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what someone said I had. There's an fc epsy procedure
you can do in your own home and on your
own and it cured the problem. Thank you to all,
and I again apologize for lamenting it. But God bless
my listeners. Save me a doctor visit. Anyway. What's going on?
In the world real quick. Here just a couple of
headlines that wanted to dive down on too. Apparently Donald

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Trump's Make America Great agaans bearing a lot of fruit
real quickly before we get to the UN and the
two words that aren't happy Birthday I have for the UN.
JP Morgan Chase announced this week a one point five
trillion dollar initiative it's funding to ensure America's resiliency. As

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part of the statement to the Wall Street Journal, they said,
our adversaries and potential adversaries aren't waiting. We no longer
have the luxury of time. America needs more speed and investment.
It also needs this is why I'm reading the statement,
to remove obstacles that stand on the way, excessive regulation,
bureaucratic delay, partisan gridlock, and an education system misaligned with

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the skills we need. So the goal the one point
five trillion dollar is to invest in job creation, economic growth, innovation,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So there's one point
five trillion pivoting over stillantis. The Carmaker is planning on
investing thirteen billion for US manufacturing expansive expansion domestic manufacturing.

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That's going to result in a fifty percent increase in
domestic vehicle production over the next several years, five thousand
new jobs across plants in Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. Hmm,
how about that? Oh and parenthetically, GM took a one

(38:34):
point six billion dollar hit because of EV Sales aren't
meeting expectations because apparently no one wants them, which leads
me to the United Nations And why are we even
in this pivoting over the editorial board of the Wall
Street DROW. I know I do that, but they'll make
a great point here, and they revealed this to my attention.
I thought you should know about it too. Voters showing

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their opposition to the net zero climate agenda wherever they
get the opportunity. See the war old people are moving
away from this nonsense. I'm interjecting right now. The carbon
dioxide is bad for us, but that isn't stopping the
United Nations, which this week is poised to impose what
amounts to a global tax on carbon dioxide emissions the

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definition of taxation without representation. The International Maritime Organization IMO,
which is a UN body in London, hopes at the
meeting this week it will secure final approval for what
they call the net zero framework for shipping measure what
imposed charges per metric ton of carbon dioxide that's plant

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food that ships emit above certain limits, probably arbitrarily determined
by the IMOH. The tax would be one hundred dollars
or three hundred and eighty dollars per metric ton, depending
on a variety of factors. That could translate into an
annual tax take of ten to twelve billion dollars going
into this United Nations organization. If you've heard about this

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at all, and I hadn't, it's probably because the Trump
administration last week threatened to slap sanctions on any country
that votes in favor of imposing this tax. Washington rightly
worries will increased cost of goods to American households by
increasing global shipping costs as much as ten percent. They
do nod and note the irony, setting aside the trade

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policy irony. At least someone in the Trump administration is
worried about expensive imports might be bad for the American economy.
The damage from this UN climate tax as much political
as economic. The UN has previously toyed with emissions monitoring
schemes such as for aviation, and the IMO claims this
proposal is no different. But this is the first instance

(40:49):
we can find of the UN claiming the ability to
levy attax, the revenues from which would be paid directly
into a UN controlled fund. Pause. How does that make
you feel? And I'm sure there's swirling illustrations of UN
corruption in your mind right now. For the UN system

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as a whole, roughly ninety percent of revenue comes from
governments like the United States, which apparently funds most of
the UN. Why are we doing that? I don't know.
Those capitals at least are responsible to their own taxpayers
and also in a position to impose some accountability on
the UN. That's Donald Trump basically screw you guys. If
you don't get your act together, We're not going to

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fund you anymore. Where are all the other nations funding
the UN? They always fall behind their obligations. Why is
the United States the only one who ever regularly pays
their bills? The rest income generated from US consulting activities
or investment returns in exchange rate movements affecting existing reserves.
That's ten percent.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
But this I m.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Carbon tax on shipping by contract will be paid by
ship owners directly to the new quote net zero fund
close quote created by this IMO underneath the UN umbrella.
The IMO says this money, pot to be managed by
agency staff, would support innovation in green shipping and quote

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reward low emission ships close quote. That's bad enough as
an invitation to opaque special dealing and corruption, which is
always guaranteed by the UN. But the IMO also contemplating
using the funds for quote just transition initiatives in developing
countries close quote, and to quote mitigate negative impacts close

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quote of climate change on vulnerable states. Notice them whittling
away the countries that might be available to tap into
these billions of dollars being taken from shipping companies for
no reason other than to rid the world of plant
food in other worlds. This is another income redistribution scheme

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for whatever ideas the UM bureaucracy deems worthy. If you
think handouts to non democratic countries for vaguely defined climate
purposes will be administered scrupulously in the public interest, We've
got a carbon neutral barge to sell you. Meanwhile, who
will decide when the tax rate needs to increase and

(43:30):
how this task is left to a one hundred and
seventy member committee under the ages of the IMO, that's
the shipping group. And good luck to any voter in Boston, Berlin,
or Bangkok who wants to influence that debate. It's a
bad sign that the IMO is even pushing this measure
when voters in the United States and across Europe are

(43:51):
becoming less willing to pay the economic cost for net
zero climate policies. And I put an exclamation point behind that,
because this reality is unfit to my delight. Across the globe,
people are finally waking up that this is a scam
of global proportion, something that knows scamster or frauds there
could have ever imagined in their wildest dreams. You got

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to leave it up to the likes of Al Gore
and Barack Obama and other climate alarmists to stir the
pot of this nonsense, to keep these organizations funded with
your taxpayer dollars so they can continue to chase their
tail and lie to you that plant food somehow bad
for us. Do you ever notice in the idea of
reducing car emissions that they never talk about truly dangerous

(44:35):
emissions mercury and lead and all that. Why, because we've
got rid of those. The only thing they have less
is something that you can't get rid of, which is exhalation.
It's part of the natural environment, it's part of the atmosphere.
Carbon dioxide is necessary for the globe to live and survive.
Zap CO two out of the atmosphere, all plant life dies.

(44:57):
It's craziness. Obviously, at the tone of my voice and
how I'm feeling right now, this has gotten I've just
gotten to the end of my rope on this. But
thankfully again I'm excited about the rest of the world
coming to this reality. They went on and concluded many
Western governments, especially in Europe, nonetheless support the IMO Plan,

(45:18):
no doubt because of that unpopularity. It's an attempt by
climate obsessed politicians to entrench their agenda. Here we are
before voters in democracies can kill it. There's your task,
FoST Let's kill this. Let's stick a steak in the
heart of carbon dioxide elimination right now and stop this nonsense.

(45:43):
This is the kind of national abdication of decision making
to international bodies that has spurred populist rebellions across Europe
and the US President Trump, we'll do Americans and the
electric democratic world a favor if he can scare the
IMO into thinking twice about this global carbon tax plan.
Let me ask an out loud question for a more
informed listener out there who might know the answer to

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this question. If we just responded to the UN, if
they do pass this global tax, even though for my
perception they lack the taxing authority, under what law are
we'd be obligated to pay this? What would happen if
we just said to the UN when they hold their
when they hand over a tax bill, I got two

(46:26):
words for you, and it ain't happy birthday. Are the
light blue helmet folks gonna come after the United States
of America? I don't see that happening either, So let's
do that. Let's tell them where to go. Six sixteen
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six twenty one here at fifty five kr CE detalk
station five seven fifty five hundred eight hundre a two
to three talk. As I've pointed out, GM taking a
one point six billion dollar hit because well, EV operations,
electric vehicle sales aren't where they were hoping they would be.
People are rolling back the mandates. Donald Trump, of course
getting rid of that ridiculous notion that carbon dioxide is

(47:15):
a pollutant. And another article the rest of the world
is following America's retreat on EV's a couple of points
from the article. Again Wall Street Jawn give credit to
Sharon Turleup reporting on this most notably so we have
moving back from EV emission standards. Canada Prime Minister Mark

(47:36):
Connie paused an electric vehicle sales mandate that was set
to take an effect next year. There's another country, in
the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Keir Starmer provided a more
flexible timeline to hit the country's EV targets. Segue two,
maybe not have any having any electric vehicle targets. European
Union last month vowing the pressure from automakers, Well, it's

(48:00):
twenty thirty five target for eliminating carbon dioxide emissions from cars.
They've moved that reality hitting hard in the US General
Motors I mentioned one point six billion dollar charge because
of sinking EV sales. Automaker lobbied heavily this year to
loosen ev requirements. It's a business model that people aren't

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cottoning to. There's another point made, death of a clean
energy tobacco. You can read Homan Jenkins article on this.
Put it this way, hotdog consumption would surely rise if
hot dogs were subsidized by government. Purely a conceite, though,
is any idea that cheeseburger consumption would simultaneously decline? It

(48:43):
doesn't follow, And so it has proved energy consumption has
simply grown overall. Therein lies the problem. Energy consumption keeps
going up, and the green solution for energy demand is
a windmill and a solar panel, which do not require
the energy needed to power America and America and the
rest of the world's growing, not retracting energy demands. Oh

(49:07):
and look here, US army planet powers bases with tiny
nuclear reactors, the Janics program. How about this? And why
can't you and I have them? Going back to cribbage
Mike's submarine or friend Mike's point that he's made multiple times,
we all should take note of the American military ships
have been running on nuclear power since the late nineteen fifties.
How many accidents none this Janus program, The Army unveiled,

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which aims to supply bases by calendar year twenty twenty
eight with micro reactors, described as tiny reactors that generate
about twenty megawatts of electricity, which is enough to power
a small a small town. They also are small enough
to move on a container ship or an aircraft. How

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about that to power America's military? Jeff Waksman, Principal Deputy
Assistan and Secretary of the Army. What resilience means to
us is that we have power no matter what. Twenty
four to seven. Now, who among us doesn't want that?
Is it too much to ask and counter your twenty

(50:15):
twenty five? With this modern technology that has been available
for a long time, we won't touch with a ten
foot pole in spite of the fact that, oh my god,
it's carbon neutral, produces an abundance of electricity, it runs
twenty four to seven. But we can't have that. Why?
And I've always viewed the artificial intelligence as bad as

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it might be for our collective jobs in the future.
The power demands of artificial intelligence operations are so massive
that the Googles of the world, the Alphabets, the other
huge multi billion dollar corporations are investing in this technology
so they can have their own self generated power, much
in the way this Janus project is going to provide
the American military with its own self generated power. Need

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to be on the grid, says the American Military by
Caulendar year twenty twenty eight, and maybe Alphabet doesn't need
to be on the grid. Maybe by next year if
they can get approval to get one of these small reactors.
Ask out loud, what's the impediment? Could it be JP
Morgan's point about overregulation impediments to investment. Maybe we're realigning

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right now. Maybe we are in that moment and time
where sanity will rule the day. Local stories coming up
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very solid numbers. Everybody seems to be very happy. I
got a good annual review too, which means Joe Strecker
also gets a good annual review because he's producer of
the program. And if Joe Strecker wasn't there, I wouldn't
be here. Over the local stories, you can call if
you'd like, but I'm gonna jump into the local stories.
Started out with this one this morning, and it is local.
So let's talk about since a mayor, Aftab Parvoll says

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more action is going to be taken because we have
a crime problem. He's finally acknowledging it's something he's been
in denial about for a long time, calling the issue
absolutely intolerable gun violence. So what do we have new
from Aftab Parvoll in his reactive mode. First Civil Disturbance
Response Team. We have one of those as well as SWAT.

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Apparently we'll be on the ground at Fountain Square between
two pm and ten every day and they all roll
out at ten pm and that's when the violince starts.
I guess I don't know. He says he's going to
introduce new legislation to city council members to enforce an
earlier curfew on Fountain Square, at least in the Fountain
Square district, maybe as early as six pm, saying if
you are an unsupervised team and you breaking curfew, we

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will move you or we will arrest you. Mayor also
discussing having discussions with sorta officials to try and concentrate
transportation someplace other than Government Square. Which go over and
listen to what Ken Cobra, FLP president said yesterday. There's
apparently a transportation hub on Second Street that does not
have any amenities around it. It's just a place that's

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been previously built to do exactly what Government Square does
and it goes unused. Get the kids there for the transfer.
They don't have any reason or motivation to hang around,
unlike Government Square, which obviously has a lot of businesses
around it. So anyway, those is new announcements. Oh look,

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kind of prosecuted County pillots announcing five new indictments connected
with the street racing that involved more than sixty suspects
announced yesterday. The investigation does continue into more than five
dozen piece people who've been riding dirt bikes and ATVs
throughout the city, causing traffic disruptions. County Pillot said police
have attempted to stop the group multiple times. They run

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red lights, ryan sidewalks and block traffic doing burnouts and wheelies.
Got a handful of folks here, twenty two year old
Jared Porter, twenty year old Joshua Ludlum, twenty four year
old d'Artagnan Battle, twenty six year old Devon Metz, and
twenty four year old Isaiah Klein from all kinds of places,
from Hamilton, Mount Washington and aven Al, Sycamore Township, West Pricesals,

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so they're coming from all around. They were also indicted
on some charges from the September tenth case was a
separate case. She said. The men indicted chronicle their activity
on social media and in text conversations, obviously incriminating themselves,
ragging about what they were doing. Idiots doing idiot things
because they're idiots, and they put the brakes on government

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to wines in ninety day executive order banning intoxicating HEMP.
The THHC infused gummies and beverages. According to Franklin County
judge they well banned that or delayed that ban just
hours after it took effect, ruling that it should be
paused for fourteen days because well, this requires legislative action.
The governor's band claimed that HEMP drive THC products are

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unregulated by the state. I guess which he thought gave
ran to his executive authority to go ahead and ban
something that the legislative brands did not ban. So and
that is a problem. I mean, I think this rests,
I mean, aside from retailers being able to sell these
products to minors, and certainly legislative action is should be

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directed along those lines. But I think mom and dad home,
or whoever, is responsible for the young people as young
as five years old eating these THC products. In twenty eighteen,
forty seven cases of children five years old and under.
In twenty twenty five so far, four hundred and three
exposure cases in children five and under. And I'm sure

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a five year old didn't walk into some random convenience
store and buy THC gummies. I'm certain that there was
an adult presence that brought those into that five year
old's environment. So regardless of whether the wine has done
the right or wrong thing. Executive action is insufficient right now,
and that'll be litigated in court. Six thirty five right now,
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got Michael Mercer doing a power Youth seminar, which is
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But how to use chat GPT jo just Trekker can
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The Cinsinni Inquirer returns to talk about the city council race,
and we'll see if we can get him to comment
of White keeps referring to Corey Bowman is jad Vance's
half brother, Scott, if you're listening, just giving you a
little hard time, giving everybody a hard time who continues
to refer to Corey Bowman by anything other than his name.

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He's running at Corey Bowman. You can check him out
online at Corey Bowman dot com. All right here, let
me this this, this really bothered me. Representative Ayana Pressley,
you know her, She's a squad. She's insane. Well, politically
I would argue that she is. Anyway, we can have
an argument about politics and whether socialism slash communism is

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a better form of government than capitalism or whatever form
of capitalism we have left here in the United States.
She was celebrating Indigenous People's Day the other day, Columbus Day,
which Donald Trump brought back. And I know there's Indigenous
people out there, and I have respect for our Native
American indigenous friends. Happy Indigenous People's Day. We are all

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on stolen land, she said. And while Republicans try to
whitewash American history, we acknowledge our country's role in inflicting
trauma on our indigenous neighbors. We'll keep celebrating their contributions,
centering Native voices in our policymaking and building more just
equitable future. There's that word again, echable. It's got to

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be incorporated into any left wing statement ever. Well, obviously
this broad for a lot of laughter, including from me.
So I have to read delicately the statement that I
typed on top of this article because it is FCC
non compliant. I just suggested, well, so are you? If
we are all on stolen land, then you also are

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an occupant of stolen land. I know I'm stating the obvious.
You were elected by people who live on stolen land,
Aana Presley, you live in the district where they elected you.
So if this is all such an affront to our
Native Americans and our indigenous people, then why are you
still participating in this affront to their dignity and their humanity?

(59:38):
Move someplace else. But in so suggesting, let me just
offer this pick a country, and I bet regardless of
what country you pick that apparently in your mind isn't
on stolen land. Let me suggest to you that there's

(01:00:01):
probably somebody that lives there, who is claiming that the
current occupants stole that land from one of the rest ancestors.
The world is constantly evolving, wars, in societal breakdowns, and
I mean you could go through a litany of things
that have happened. Mass migrations, you know. I mean, we

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had this amazing influx of immigrants from Europe right on
multiple occasions. They came here, helping to form the United
States of America. But anywhere you go, there is a
history to the existence of that country that quite often
and in most cases involves some sort of turmoil that

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has resulted in a change. So we all are uninherited space, ma'am,
So get over yourself. The land was settled and colonized.
And if you want to say to the you know
that that might makes right or that strength conquers the week.

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However you want to view the evolution of the United
States of America, it is a part of an evolution
and evolution that never stops. And I know Christopher Columbus
didn't discover America. Can get back to leif ericson if
you want to give credit to some white guy out

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in the world. But the point is, oh, look, there's
land over there. It's hardly populated. It's Native Americans, it's
indigenous people. They've got a lot of stuff and things
that we the Europeans or whoever else, and you know,
the Spaniards and anybody else who moved into this region
of the world, South America and North America. They all
saw some benefit in doing so, and they did. And
look at where we are today. Okay, I'm over at

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fifty five two to three talk. Let's go to the phone.
See what Bobby's got this morning. Bobby, welcome back to
the morning Show.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Happy hump Day, my brother Faith flagging family. You keep those,
You're always going to have freedom.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
As long as you have a firearm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
You've got it. Well that's just a given. My friend.
Have we had any shootings downtown last night? I know
we had a lot of assaults or anything. Did anybody
make it home?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I you know, I don't know. Usually if there's a
shooting that happens late in the reporting cycle overnight or
into this morning, just tracker will flag it and identify
it for me. I didn't get any instant mails from
on that today, so maybe we did have a day
without a murder or a shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
We have some assaults and everything. But you know, my
question is is joseuh who reports this from the city.
I mean, they don't like to report all the assaults
and shootings and everything. I mean, how do you get
an accurate report on that from the city.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Well, I don't know. I can go back to the
Clerk of Courts hiding the felony murder dockets from the
general public, So maybe there is some some of that
barying of information and other offices. I don't regularly go
to the Hamlin County Prosecutor's office website or whatever. Since
the police department website or have I'm not certain where

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those things might be reported, but one may make an
argument we do have Channel nine, Channel five, Channel twelve,
Channel nineteen, and we have the Inquirer, a lot of
opportunities for reporters to look into that and report that
information to us. So some of it we get some
of it, maybe we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Do you think an ABC affiliate would look into it
as hard as conservative affiliate.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I don't know, but if we make national headlines, it
usually involves some horrific thing like the late July beat
down where Holly got punched in the face for no reason.
That gives us national attention.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Bobby, I'll handicap it tomorrow for the weekend assaults and shootings.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Well, maybe you have to have par of all. We'll
start pivoting over and say, hey, hey, hey, hey, at
least we're not as bad as like Chicago or you know,
fill in the blank on another city that's struggling with
massive crime problems. I would note then, that the population
of the city of Cincinnati's a lot smaller than other
major metropolitan areas. So anyhow, let's see here. Oh, as

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Los Angeles declared the state of emergency because of ice raids.
This is preposterous ice raids across La County. They've declared
an emergency. The county will now be offering support to
residents who have been impacted by the raids, including rent

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relief and access to state funds for legal aid. I'm sorry.
Declaring a local emergency ensures that the full weight of
the county government is aligned to support our immigrant communities
who are being targeted by federal actions. Count of departments

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ordered to take necessary emergency actions to protect and stabilize
communities impacted by federal immigration actions. According to the release,
those officials claim the raids have, in their words, created
a climate of fear, leading to widespread disruptions in daily
life and adverse impacts to our regional economy, citing decrease

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workplace attendance, temporary or permanent business closures, and increase strain
on schools, hospitals, and places of worship. I mean, if
that's all that is being impacted by ice raids, what
are the ice people going after. They're going for illegal
immigrants who snuck into this country violation of law and
have been active committers of crime, gang members, folks with

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convictions folks that have been that are literally criminals. And
if all these businesses have been impacted by that, I
guess that means that we've got a lot of this
element that is working, probably unlawfully in these various businesses.
Not supposed to be able to hire an illegal immigrant
les's they have a green card, well, that would be

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illegal immigrant. If they have a green card, they'd be employable,
but they are not employable. So you can see California's
economy apparently relies not entirely, but heavily on folks are
in the country illegally, so they're they're going to get

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rent assistance and free lawyers. Elections have consequences. Folks got
an opportunity in the city to Chames the Dynamic six
fifty five fifty five Karoseit the talk station. Thank god.
Jack Atherden's got to be on next Saving Me from Myself,
with Donovan and Eil following up at seven thirty from

(01:07:08):
the Americans for Prosperity Group. We'll talk about the taxpayer
torture awards at seven thirty. I'm sure hope you can
stick around for those discussions. Today's Tompson seven O six
at fifty five, Parrist he talks games. It being Wednesday,
this hour, and it's the time of week I always
look forward to, among other times a week I look
forward to. It's time for the Big Picture with Jack Atherton.

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Jack Athiden, welcome back to the Morning show, my friend.
It was a wonderful thing seeing you and your beautiful
wife Ainsley at dinner on Saturday night.

Speaker 9 (01:07:37):
That really was a scrumptious dinner. Thank you to both
you and Paul. And I know where the cooks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Oh yeah, terrific. Yeah yeah, we thank you so much.
Love to cook. And I'll tell you what, man, that's
spinach porcini chicken lasagna. We've made that quite a few
times over the years and it always delivers on awesome.
So we're glad to be able to serve that to you.
And we really enjoyed the company on Saturday.

Speaker 9 (01:08:00):
Don't get me started on dessert. They won't put out
so many calories. Let's jump up and down and celebrate
President Trump's epic Mid the East peace deal. It's being
shocked up to his destruction of Iran's nuclear threat, also
to the unleashing of the US energy that's freed us

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from Joe Biden begging for oil. Everybody remember this, Yes,
going to Olpeck begging for oil, and even went to
that as well and asked them for oil. I believe it,
it's all true, but I think it's more than Matt Brian.
When the President and his team, when they have got
abroad and they've achieved this, it shows us that there's

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something eluding us here at home, something we must regain
if America truly is going to be great again. I'm
talking about consensus, finding a center common ground, not on
every issue that's not going to happen, but on the
ones that matter most. Trump's twenty point plan has been
accepted by Israel and most Palestinians, and also by Muslim

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nations from Turkey to Indonesia, where Barack Obama grew up.
They are all embracing this framework for coexistence. And that's
truly remarkable when you step back and consider that no
one has been able to bring peace to the Middle
East since oil was discovered there in nineteen o eight.

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The prosperity that should have followed, not just for the
princes but for their people instead led to dreams of
Muslim empire by the likes of you. Remember this creep
Egypt's Gamal abdel Nasser oh rallied Arabia. He declared death
to Israel, and everybody joined in. When Israel beat back Naser,

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his place was taken by an even bigger bum, Palestinian terrorist,
Yasser Arafat, who turned down Never forget this. For decades,
the Palestinians turned down a two state solution, and then,
of course we had the Iranian Iatolas, the worst of all,
who were seeking a nuclear weapon. And all this time,

(01:10:12):
Brian surrounding Muslim nations exploited the hatred of Israel to
distract their people from their own domestic grievances, just as
the Democrats distract their followers from all of their failings.
Donald Trump finally broke this cycle of hatred and violence

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during his first term with an entirely new strategy, the
Abraham Accords, named after the common ancestor of Arabs and Jews.
The Abraham Accords did an and run around Hamas and
other terrort groups and instead offered a vision of cooperation
for the entire region of Muslims working and trading with Israelis,

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combining the Arab oil with Israel's technological proper and of
course Donald Trump being Donald Trump, the real estate developer
also foresees luxury resort hotels on Gaza's Mediterranean coast, But
not even the Nobel Prize Committee would suggest Trump is
only seeking peace in order to make money for himself.

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The consensus our president has reached in the Middle East,
and from Congo and Rwanda, to India and Pakistan, Cambodia
and Thailand, and hopefully soon Russia and Ukraine. It's already
the stuff of legend. In ancient times, bards might have
celebrated Trump's victories with an epic poem. The tragedy is

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that back here in America, we are not seeing this
kind of shared purpose, this kind of consensus. The poem
that sums up the crisis we're facing here at home
right now was actually written by an irishman more than
one hundred years ago. William Butler Yeates called it the
Second Coming. It's not about Christ returning to Earth. Quite

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the opposite in this poem, composed just after the First
World War and the Spanish flu pandemic that followed. These
disasters were eclipsed for Yates by an even bigger catastrophe,
the loss of shared meaning in the modern world, the
loss of values, religion, truth. When you lose consensus about

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all this, Yates wrote, and this is the famous line, Brian,
things fall apart. The center cannot hold. We used to
have a center in American politics, a belief that the
founding and principles of America were the greatest in the
history of the world. What were those principles? That individual

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rights take precedence over big governments of kings, emperors and
now leftist elites. That individual rights must be secured and
protected by limited government. That's what the Declaration of Independence
and our Constitution are all about. Throughout human history. These
truths were by no means self evident, but they were

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here in America. Of course, we could argue about what
those individual rights were, and who is entitled to assert them,
and how far government could go in protecting them. We
fought a civil war to make grill the proposition that
all men are created equal. Suffragettes then sought a quality
for all women. There have been fights over the rights
of people with different sexual preferences, fights to protect the

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rights of children in the womb, and there continue to
be fights over the role of government. Does government protect
our pursuit of happiness, or should provide entitlements ranging from
public education to health care, housing, even guaranteed income. Does
the federal government have the responsibility to secure our borders?

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How far can the government go to deny taxpayer benefits
and expel illegal immigrants now numbering in the tens of millions.
Questions like these are not new, but we have not
seen so much polarization surrounding them since the Civil War.
There was a time when the center did hold and

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we could meet in the middle to debate. For instance,
most Republicans during the Great Depression considered Franklin Roosevelt's New
Deal to be socialist and a violation of the Constitution.
To keep the US Supreme Court from striking down his agenda,
FDR threatened to pack the court with additional justices. The

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Supreme Court then back down, and the federal government has
kept growing since then, exponentially, yet to oppose Roosevelt. In
nineteen forty, Republicans nominated a businessman from acts kron Ohio,
Wendell Wilkie. He kept fighting against Roosevelt's domestic agenda, but
not in the streets, in the courts, and at the

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ballot box. While supporting FDR's foreign policy and Brian It's
not just Republicans who sought consensus. In nineteen fifty two
and again in nineteen fifty six, Democrats nominated not someone
from the socialist wing of their party and not a
segregationist from their southern wing, but a decent, reasonable patriot.

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Adlaie Stevenson lost twice to the GOP's Dwight Eisenhower, but
that's because Ike built even more consensus than Adelaide did.
Both parties wanted Ike now. Please don't get me wrong,
Moderation milk toast. Moderation is not the answer the Democrats.

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Lyndon Johnson was not moderate, yet LBJ worked with Republicans
to pass his civil rights laws. Ronald Reagan was not
a moderate, but Reagan persuaded reasonable Democrats Reagan Democrats to
help end the Cold War using persuasion, even when enemies

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sought to destroy him. Donald Trump has transformed the GOP
from the party of multinational businesses selling out American plans
and jobs to China, into the party of a growing
middle class of all races and persuasions. Trump has also
at last protected America from further invasions of undocumented unvetted,

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often violent immigrants. Democrats see this as a human rights violation.
There may be no way to reconcile these diametrically opposed visions,
but there is a way, in my opinion, to bring
the country together by persuading voters and winning elections decisively

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with a majority big enough to keep the minority from
shutting down government. Reaching consensus is going to take free
and open debate, the kind Charlie Kirk was bringing to
college campuses like no one else when he was gunned down,
The kind that believe it or not. CBS News may
once again allow, under its new editor in chief Barry Weiss,

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who was a fierce critic of fake news when she
co founded The Free Press. Apparently dying, CBS once again
wants an audience that includes us. Maybe I'm not holding
my breath, but maybe ABC, NBC, CNN and The New
York Times will follow. The alternative to persuasion is what

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William Butler Yates warned against, and I quote to conclude,
mere anarchy is loosed upon the world. The best like
all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
Brian I say, let's instead get passionate about defending our
principles while seeking political consensus and winning elections decisively. What

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do you say, my reasonable friend.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
I think you are being quite reasonable Jack, and I
feel the pendulum. Like we have a Mississippi James who
calls fairly regularly. He refers to this pendulum swinging back
and forth. And I feel as though, in this this
idea of reaching a consensus, we're kind of getting back
to some measure of sanity. You know, with Donald Trump's
emphasis on bringing back American jobs and manufacturing and everybody said,

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oh my god, you can't do that. It's never going
to happen. We've lost the battle to China and that's cheaper,
blah blah blah. I mean, we've got all of these
promises and actual actions of billions and billions of dollars
in investments. Delanis just said they're going to do thirteen billion.
We had other automobile manufacturers moving back. We had JP
Morgan announced yesterday a one point five trillion dollar plan

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to boost American manufacturing, which is critical national security. We've
got nuclear power plants actually going to be coming online
because the needs of artificial intelligence. The answer to all
of our prayers has existed for years, and yet the
left and bureaucrats and regulators have rendered nuclear impossible to accomplish. Well,
you know what, everybody's moving in that direction now. And

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the American military is now talking about miniature nuclear plants
to power their bases so they have twenty four to
seven power just in case China might attack us or something.
So there's this, I think, the resurgence of what I
would just call simple common sense. You know, cut down
the regulatory bears, make it better for us to do
business in America. You got to a benefit Americans. And look,

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you know, going back to peace in the Middle East.
Donald Trump was able to get the Abraham Accords in
his first term, and look what he's accomplished between Israel
and Hamas more Arab leaders coming to the table to
sit down and say, you know what, it is in
our best interest to play nicely with each other because
it's going to help benefit our collective economies and improve
our collective lives. It's just it's like a fire hose

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of accomplishments that we've seen just since January of this year.
If you just want to look at the last ten months,
I don't know, Jack, I just feel in a slightly
more optimistic mood as I'm looking at the news this
morning that I have in quite some time, with all
the progress that we've been making.

Speaker 9 (01:20:13):
You are right, Brian, and you're right about this every day.
But one danger we have to guard against is Democrats
pretending to nominate a consensus builder who was just another
left wing ideologue. Barack Obama promised there would be no
red states, no blue states, just the United States, and
good old Joe Biden from Scranton. Joe was nominated instead

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of the avowed socialist Bernie Sanders, who at least was
honest about it. But Jim Clyburn, Nancy Pelosi and other
Democrat bosses knew that Biden was just going to be
a puppet of the far left. Yeah, so we have
to look closely at who they put up and get
beyond most of the news. Maybe Barry Weiss is going
to tell us the truth, but we don't get it elsewhere.

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We get it here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
I appreciate at and of course we get it from you,
and you know I'm laughing about but Joe Biden being
basically foisted upon the Democrats. I think the Democrats would
have nominated Bernie Sanders and the realists within the party
and even including Nancy Pelosi saw that as a danger
sign because no, no, no, we can't go full on
socialism that quickly. We haven't gotten there yet. It's not

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our moment in time. So let's put Joe Biden in there,
right And then Joe Biden obviously turns out to be
incapable of running, So they grabbed Kamala Harris without a
democratic process. So those who scream and cry foul about
the loss of democracy are certainly the ones that are
well not engaging in a democratic process.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
I think, Brian, they wanted the socialism as soon as
they could get it. Yeah, they weren't sure that they
could get it with somebody who was as forthright about
as socialism as Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Obama hid it, Brian, if I may.

Speaker 9 (01:21:53):
Yeah, As my wife Ainsley likes to say, Trump is
trying to reach consensushighlighting eighty twenty issues like the border
and men in Title nine, women's sports, and so many
more issues that Democrats can't do that because they're on
the twenty side of so many issues, the wrong side.

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But we do have to provide an answer to democrats
on one thing and we're beginning to hear about it
now during the shutdown. We're going to hear it a
lot more between now and next November, and that is healthcare.
We're going to talk maybe next week about how the
Republicans fumbled the ball during President Trump's first term on healthcare,

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including an Ohio senator, it does not have to be
socialized medicine. Instead, let's immediately do things like making insurance
portable across state lines. It's unbelievable that it's not establish
health savings accounts finally, and enact other measures to make
the healthcare market more competitive and truly affordable.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Jack Atherton, always great having you on the show. Appreciate
your thoughts, comments, your insight, and your brilliance every Wednesday
when we talk. I'll look forward to next Wednesday, another
edition of The Big Picture. Best of health and love
to you and Amesley, and again great senior Saturday night.

Speaker 9 (01:23:12):
I'm gonna go back to cooking for you. Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
If you have cares of the youtalk das Zimmer the
best vation, it's seven point thirty here fifty five krs
detalk dation. Very happy Wednesday to you and welcome back
to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show from Americans for
Prosperity Donovan and Neil Donovan's always a pleasure to have

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you on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Welcome back, Brian, always great to be with.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
You got an award to give out.

Speaker 10 (01:23:43):
Huh, well, we gave it out, Actually we gave it
out last night.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Yeah, well, let's talk about it. Went to Matt Speaker,
Speaker Matt Huffman, and this is in connection with your
your your efforts with the Buckeye Blueprint campaign. I guess
you've been given this award way for several years now.

Speaker 10 (01:24:04):
Oh yeah, actually, and I don't know if you recall
this brance was years ago, but you actually were there
for our inaugural Taxpayer Torch Award when we gave that
in twenty seventeen to John Houstead for his work as
Secretary of State. So this is an award that we
gave for a number of years. It unfortunately got sidelined.
I think no one really knows the lower history white

(01:24:27):
got sidelined, but that was around COVID time. We decided
to bring it back though because of the outsized impact
that then Senate President now Speaker Matt Huffman played in
accomplishing so many important reforms last session into this session,

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coupled with holding the line on some really bad bills.
And I've been on your show and talked about him,
but some really bad bills that had moved out of
the Ohio House and over the Senate, so just played
an outsized impact in so many different happy to talk
about them, but that compelled us to say, hey, we're
going to bring this award back, and there's somebody who
is well deserving of it, and then hopefully that'll inspire

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some other folks down the line to try to compete
and earn that earn that recognition in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
All right, what kind of factors are you looking for
with this and what specifically did you identify with with
Matt Huffman.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Well, yeah, and one of the things that we were,
you know, in particular, looking for is bold conservative leaders
who stand firm for reform and deliver results. And so
when you look.

Speaker 10 (01:25:33):
At last session into this year, we expanded school choice
for all Ohiolands.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Yes, we moved from.

Speaker 10 (01:25:40):
Four brackets down to two, and then just in the
last six months moved that down to one bracket, a
flat income tax bracket. We protected folks from costly mandates
on energy bills and in fact, in just the first
four months of this year, unleashed energy production here in
Ohio by streamlining and speeding up permitting processes, regulatory reform,

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property tax relief, which continues to be debated and discussed,
but they're moving bills on that issue in Columbus. Will
be there today actually testifying on one in particular regarding
the twenty MILLI four but and in holding the line
on government spending. All of this, right, Brian, these are
the foundational pieces of our Buckeye Blueprint, and so all
of that accomplished in the last twenty four so months,

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much much more work to be done, right, we're now
near arrising. But that's the kind of leadership, right, that
comes from helping elect Buckeye Blueprint champion state representatives and
senators right who then elevate leadership like Speaker Matt Huffman
into that position of leadership to provide that vision that

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ultimately helps move us closer to being the number one
state in the nation for freedom and prosperity.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Yeah, let's hope so. And I know, obviously the points
that you made are fantastic ones. I got to cling
to the property tax comment because we of course had
some suggestions from Mike Dwin's Blue Ribbon Committee which didn't
make a whole lot of sense, to maybe be quite
candid with you, But after Dwine veto the ones that
were in the budget. But we're moving fast toward this

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property tax appeal next year, and I think more and
more people are going to sign the petition to get
it on the ballot, and more and more people are
going to gravitate toward doing that. It's going to force
Columbus to do some tough work and where's Americans for
prosperity on that whole pile there? That the whole mess
that we're dealing with right now. If you guys come
up with a solution of your own, don't want to

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put you on the spot, but I am no right.

Speaker 10 (01:27:38):
We've actually been talking about this issue for a while
and while eliminating how's income taxes our number one priority,
capping and reforming property taxes here in the state of
Ohio is a very close.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Number two, or maybe it's one.

Speaker 10 (01:27:50):
A right, and that it's something that many of our
our constituents and volunteers have been talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Now what we would like to see happen, right, is that.

Speaker 10 (01:27:59):
The the reforms that the General Assembly had vetted and
reviewed last General Assembly so just about twelve months ago,
have been incorporated into legislation this year, has been debated, vetted,
much of it's moved through committee, a lot of it
actually ended up in the state budget to wind vetoed
it as probably recall and a lot of that would

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have helped bring transparency to the system, would have capped
the ability for these spikes and increases, and would have
put some more accountability mechanisms in place at a local level.

Speaker 8 (01:28:31):
To get that done.

Speaker 10 (01:28:32):
If that doesn't happen, right, that's where that threat of
eliminating the ability to levy a property tax in the
state outright hang. The concern there right, just speaking pragmatically,
and it's coming from a guy who works for an
organization that advocating to eliminate the income tax in the state.
So I don't like taxes, period, but there's a large
shortfall that would impact police and fire and roads and bridges, infrastructure,

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much of the public services most people kind of look
to go ever meant to do, and there's not really
a plan to backfill that right now. And so what
we really, I think need to have happened, and I
think most of Highlands want to see have happened, is
that we get these reforms into place that give the
taxpayer more control over their local jurisdiction so that we

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don't see these unvoted increases occur, that we don't see
these spikes, and that when people want to understand what's
going on with their tax bill, they can do it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
David Thomas is doing a lot of works. They were up.

Speaker 10 (01:29:28):
David Thomas from the entire other side of the state,
from your listeners in Ashton Villa County, is doing a
ton of work. And we'll be testifying on a bill
that addresses some of these issues later today in the
House Ways the Means Committee.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
What of the notion that we wouldn't have to worry
about the property tax if we just were able to
successfully eliminate all the fraud, waste and abuse that exists
in our state government's budget. I mean, I keep hearing
this all the time. You know, Medicaid, Medicare and the
amount of people who are improperly registered for that. If
we just clawed back that money or didn't send it
out in the first place are budget would be much

(01:30:01):
better shape.

Speaker 10 (01:30:04):
But without a doubt, I mean, and that's one of
the things that has been worked on, right, But it's
a massive behemoth. Not to create excuses. There is a
was a proposal put into the state budget that would
have the state auditor go in look at Medicaid millionaires
and if the Medicaid system is actually properly reviewing in

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a post COVID era, who is actually getting these dollars.
It's incredibly costly. It's the number one expense for the state.
But here's the deal, Brian, in local property taxes that
if they're eliminated overnight, that's equivalent, you know, two years

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of education funding from the setting that comes to about
twenty two twenty three billion dollars. And so it's a
large chunk of money. And that Medicaid audit may only
identify about a billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
A billion's a big number, yeah, but it may only
identify a billion.

Speaker 10 (01:31:02):
There's a lot of work to be done to bring
down the cost curvid government here in the state of Ohio.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
It's all in Columbus. It's the fifty or I'm sorry,
it's the thirty nine hundred. Political subdivisions across the state
that are the big government behemoths that's bearing down on
the Ohio tax pay right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Now, no question about it. Well, well, then on a
call to action, where would you like my listeners to
turn to to get involved?

Speaker 10 (01:31:24):
Donovan O'Neil, Well, we had so many of our volunteers
and supporters get to join us. So well than just
about celebrating the elected officials, it was about recognizing the
work of our volunteers. And you can get involved with
us by going to Buckeye Blueprint dot com. Buckeye blueprint
dot Com sign up, take action, Join us. We've got
chapters popping up all over the state and we'd love
to have your listeners join us.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Buckeye Blueprint dot Com. Call to Action, Donald Oneil, keep
up the great work. I'll look forward to another conversation
next week. Have a great time or have a great
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for calling this morning, welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (01:33:00):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
I appreciate it. I just wanted to say that. I
guess it's been about twenty years ago. The Supreme Court
of the State of Ohio said that the school property tax, yeah,
was unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yes, they gave them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
You were tuned in at five o'clock. That's okay, you
brought this back up. But yeah, we had this conversation
the five o'clock hour. I think was Jay that brought
it up. You're right, twenty plus years ago, Ill, it's unconstitutional,
Yet no one has done anything to change the school funding.
How is that, Bob? How is it possible, Bob, that
they've ignored the Supreme courts dictate from a couple of
decades ago. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
I have I don't either, but somebody needs to do something.

Speaker 8 (01:33:41):
Yeah, I would if I could.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
I don't have the money to go to court that far.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Well, you couldn't see. That's the point I brought up
this morning. I think the reason and this is just
me speculating. I'll acknowledge up front it could be wrong
on this. No one has standing to bring that action.
Standing is a weird concept in the law and it's
something with everybody struggles with. But you have to be
able to have a unique harm that you personally have

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something that has impacted you or your organization in a
unique way that everyone doesn't suffer. If we all suffer
equally under whatever we're trying to contest here, then you
don't have a unique opportunity to contest it in court. Now,
there's got to be some human being out there that
can make some sort of demonstration that they have standing
to attack this and go after the state of Ohio

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for ignoring its own Supreme Court. But though so far
and fast forward, you know, I mean, we rewind twenty
years and wonder why that hasn't happened since then. And
that's the only thing I can come up with.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
It's my understanding is that it has not been stopped
because the Supreme Court did not put an end date.
They said, in a reasonable length of time the change
should be made.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
And you know, at the moment in time that that
Supreme Court decision was handed out. If in fact that's
what it says, who would be arguing that twenty plus
years is even within the realm of reasonable How many
election cycles have we gone through since that decision came down, Bob,
I mean, Lord Almighty, that's why that's why I love this,

(01:35:14):
this this threat of eliminating property taxes in the constitution.
I just like it as a threat. It's going to
force some action in Columbus. There is no question in
my mind about that. And they better damn we'll get
on it very quickly because it'll be November next year
before you know it. And I feel I feel very
confidently they're enough signatures to put that on the ballot, right.

Speaker 8 (01:35:36):
Oh, I agree, yep, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Well as I always say, Bob, keep that pop yep,
keep that popcorn out. And you know what, it's gonna
get even more interesting if we do constitutionally repeal property
tax in this state of Ohile. I'm kind of giddy
with excitement over that notion, Bob, just to see how it,
just to see what the reaction is going to be.
Chaos will most certainly ensue. Bob. Good good to hear

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from you, and I'm glad you brought that one back
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in connection with this government shutdown, Yes, the government is
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I saw this quote from Senator Chris Van Holland Democrat
Donald Trump, come to the negotiation table. Quote, bring down

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costs and prices and stop inflicting harm and terrorizing federal
employees and the American people. Bring down costs and prices. Oh,
is that all there is to it? And what is
his solution and the Democrats solution to bring down cost
and prices? Well, it is to continue to supplement and
subsidize through federal tax dollars right your insurance premiums, getting

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rid of the financial cap It was four hundred percent
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is going to bring down the cost it's not touching,
is not doing a damn thing to lower the cost
of medicine. And in fact, many people will argue, including me,
that it actually causes the price of medicine to increase.
If you are free from the burden of having to
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directly to the medical providers, do you think they're going
to lower their prices or they're going to increase their prices.
See the landscape of college education. The more you supplement,
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the more idea that you're offloading these expensive to the taxpayers,
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I talk with Eric Trump the other day. If you
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was waged against Donald Trump was relentless from the moment
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well not elected. Some they laugh at that suggestion. No,
he was elected. It was stolen. But whether you are
in that position or not, we did have four years
of Joe Biden. But I was curious to know about
the overall expense. And he was on I Guess Fox

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News with Steve Doocey just yesterday and he said the
words out loud, who among us and this is one
of those there? But for the grace of God, go
aye while Letitia James is screening now about Lawfair after
she waged Lawfair against Donald Trump, suing him when there
was no harm and no damage in connection with his

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real estate valuations. Talked about that with Eric as well.
It was in insane case. The bank itself said they
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the interest that was promised on the loan, and they
said they would love to do business with Donald Trump. Again,
that's the person who was allegedly harmed by Donald Trump's
valuation of real estate. Right much all that litigation costs

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to Trump's He said, we probably spent four hundred million
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person he is, he would have had to rely on
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go fund me campaign or wealthy, well healed, well connected
investors who would probably loan him money or give him
money to defend himself and then maybe perhaps expect favors
in returns. So Donald Trump wrote his own checks and
successfully defended himself for four years to the ten of

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four hundred million dollars. There's a lot of lawyers out
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reported north of three quarters of a million dollars raised
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Thomas Massey. He is not the man you want to
mess with. Coming up on some fifty six stick around,
we're gonna hear from empore you Michael Mercier doing a
seminar on how to use chat GPT. Then the Inquirer's
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Empower Youamerica dot Orger is where you find all the
empower Use seminar series. They're all wonderful, all very informative,
most notably chat GPT. It's a brand new phenomenon for
most of us out in the world. It's that artificial

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intelligence doing the work for us. Michael Mercer is doing
the Seminar's taking place tomorrow night. You can log in
from home or I think you can show up yes
at the empower U Seminar Classroom three hundred Great Oaks Drive,
or you'll hear Michael talk about chat GPT. By way
of background, he's very informed in this obviously this topic.
He's the president of Screen Education, which addresses issues at

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the intersection of digital technology and human well being. We'll
get to that, including smartphone addiction, news me bias, artificial intelligence,
thought research, seminars, and consultant He, like most of us
my age, started out with world book encyclopedias that he
spent a decade as an editor and publisher of college
textbooks and another decade in market research before heading on
over to president of Screen Education, got multiple degrees and

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again the seminars tomorrow night, beginning at seven pm. Welcome
to the program, Michael. It's a real pleasure to have
you on today.

Speaker 12 (01:45:23):
Well, thank you, Brian, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
And an interesting element of your seminar now, part of
me wants to say, well, if you're using chat GPT,
you're not doing the work and you're not learning anything.
It's like you sit there in front of it with
your mouth open, a little bit of drool coming out
of the corner of your mouth. You let it do
all the work for you, and then you just regurgitate
it back to whatever source you're seeking. The information for

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but you have a different viewpoint on this, you can
use it to learn, right.

Speaker 12 (01:45:50):
So that's the point of my talk is really how
to use chat GPT to teach yourself anything. That's really
the point where I'm coming from with this is I've,
as you sort of alluded to this, I've been a
sort of an autodidactor. I teach myself things all my life,
and I during the COVID I actually spent about thirty

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five hours studying mRNA vaccines and how they work. I
really needed to understand them for personal reasons, and so
that was a huge self directed learning project. And I
was sort of shocked because I would talk to other people,
friends and acquaintances about these vaccines and they knew nothing
about it, and I could see that they had no
interest in learning about it. You know, they almost felt

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like they couldn't understand it if they tried. So I realized, like, wow,
you know, maybe a lot of people don't teach themselves things.
And then when I discovered chatbots, I'll tell you I
asked them that I spent about thirty five hours teaching
myself about mr and A vaccines that if I had
a chatbot I think I could have cut it to fifteen.
You know, yeah, well, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
I have to interject this because we went back and
forth with my son. My son is now thirty one.
He was in the computer engineering department at Ohio State University,
and I think that speaks volumes to his his intellect
because it's tough to get in there. So he spends
about a year and a half and then he drops out.
And what are you doing? You're not paying for it,
Just get the damn degree. I don't want to sit

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in front of a computer doing coding. And besides, Mom
and Dad, I can teach it myself. And we're like, well,
well he ended up doing that. He'd got certificates for
computer security. He knows how to code. He did it
all himself. He taught himself, so it can be done.
And I make this point regularly because he convinced us
that he was right. Why spend all the extra money

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and resources when all of this material is readily available.
Why would you spend one hundred thousand dollars to get
an art degree when there's countless books on art. You
can self direct and learn all you want to know
about your favorite hobby without having some teacher tell you
how to do it. I think people are paying college
tuition for the structure, the forced obligation to learn right.

Speaker 12 (01:47:58):
Right, right, that's you know. What I'm going to do
in the talk is it's broken into three parts. So
the first part, and I feel this is critical for
people who want to teach themselves things right the way
that your son did. The first part, I'm going to
walk through the learning process. So I've broken the learning
process into six steps. You set a goal, you gather information,
you vet the information, then you have to do the

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hard work to understand at a deep level that information.
Then you structure it, and then you integrate it into
your current knowledge base. Right. So I'm going to walk
through this self directed learning process so people understand the
process and how it works at each stage. Then I'm
going to give an overview of chatbots, and specifically I'm

(01:48:41):
going to use chat GPT because it's so popular, right,
But I want to show people, you know, you know,
this is what a chatbot is, this is the interface.
These are the features that are critical and really helpful
in self directed learning. But I think another important thing
is to teach them how these so called large language
models work, because I think if you can understand how

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large language models work, you can be more effective in
using chatbots to learn, you know. And then the third
part I'm going to synthesize the two. Then I'm going
to close off by walking through the each steps of
each of the six steps of learning again and tying off,
how do you know specific ways you use the chatbot
to optimize your learning at each stage. Okay, So I

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think it's really going to be helpful for people to
sort of sort of codify this process for people if
they do want to jump in and try to teach
themselves things.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
You know, right, if you have a motivation to teach
yourself something, this is an ideal class to do it
because it is it being the information on whatever topic
you want is out there in the world. So the
key element that I want to focus on just here
for at least a moment, Michael is vetting. You've got
vetting in here, and of course Vetting suggests to me
you need to understand how reliable whatever given source is,

(01:49:55):
where the source material came from, so you know, if
it's some sort of like learned treatise or it's just
made up whole cloth because I keep hearing I mean
almost daily, and I'm sure you do as well. Idiot lawyers,
for example, who let chat GPT or some other AI
program create case law that they don't even bother going
back to the original law books or go to Lexus,
Nexus or West Law to find out if it's a

(01:50:16):
real case law and behold, it's not. It makes up stuff.
How do you know? How can you vet what you're
reading and know whether it's even real or not?

Speaker 12 (01:50:23):
Michael, Well, that's a good point, you know, so that
you're getting at the in terms of vetting, that's the
you're right, the information literacy judging whether something is accurate
and correct, right, So I guess that that's part of
the vetting. And one one way you do this is
I would say, first of all, don't just trust. You
can't blindly trust the chatbot. You can't. So you you know,
you've got to go out and cross reference things. You

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can ask it to give you sources and then you
can link to those sources and look at the source
and see if you in your judgment, it's it's accurate. Right.
So information literacy and judging the validity and truthfulness of
information is part of the vetting. The other part is
is vetting information in terms of determining what what do
you given your goal? Right, Since you're the teacher, you're

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setting the goal, and you have an internal motivation, right,
you want to you want to learn what you're studying
for internal reasons. Right. It's not like you're taking a
course and the goal is given to you, right, Right,
So you want to use your intrinsic goals as the
guide post for judging whether or not the information you're
finding that could be relevant to the goal is actually relevant.

(01:51:31):
So you're going to find there are things like, Okay,
it's tangential, I don't really need to understand that at
a deep level given my goal. Right. So that's the
other part of vetting. So so it's it's sort of
you know both of those things, right, Yeah, judging the
relevance but also the validity of the information, And it's
it's all going to like primary sources and checking multiple
sources to make sure it's it's it's truthful, and.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
Having a fundamental knowledge of what a primary source is
also is a helpful thing to have going into the process,
isn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:52:00):
Well, that's that's true, that's true. Yeah, so but even that,
you know, there's there's a lot of judgment that comes
to that because you could have a primary source, but
it could be biased, like you know, for example.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Like science could like a scientific consensus exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:52:17):
I was going to say, a research study going back
to COVID. Right, you could have a research study on
the vaccines or biromectin or whatever it is, right, and
you you have to bring you know, it could be
biased science, right, Yeah, the people doing the study could
could have been biased, they could have changed data. So
you have to bring some judgment, and you know, there
is some guesswork in estimating. It's not a perfect process,

(01:52:40):
but you can do pretty well, I think, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
So, So for example, if I'm interested in like whether
carbon dioxide is bad for people or something, you're going
to have research studies would suggest it is some sort
of greenhouse gas and it'll make that conclusion based upon
some other scientific consensus. But then again you can ask
it to provide an alternative viewpoint of that, can you not?
So it would go to other sources?

Speaker 12 (01:53:03):
Yeah, perfect, Yeah, perfect point. Yes you can. And that's
see that's the great thing about the chat. This is
the thing with the chatbots, right, it's you. I basically
look at these chatbots as they're they're expert level tutors
on every subject, right that are available twenty four to seven.
You can access them twenty four to seven and they
can speak to you at any level of detail you want. Right. So,

(01:53:27):
so what you're doing is through this iterative process, I
chat with these chat bots like I'm chatting with a
with a teacher or a person right, right. And what
it's doing is it's continuously with with every iteration of
your conversation, it's continuously refining your it's understanding of your
perspective until it gets to a point where it's it's

(01:53:47):
what I call mirror cognitive mirroring or cognitive achieving cognitive
alignment with with you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Right that you get is that you getting an answer
you you ultimately want, Like an expert. If I hire
an expert as a lawyer, I'm pretty darn certain I
can get that expert to reach a conclusion that's beneficial
to my client. Can you do that with chat, GPT
or other AI resources?

Speaker 12 (01:54:14):
You can? It's it's through you know, the more it
understands your goal. So what one thing I'm going to
lay out in the talk, is how do you accelerate
through the process of having it aligned with you cognitively? Right,
Sure you can, so you can almost do like a
brain dump at the beginning of the project, so it
fully understands what you want to do. And this is
the thing, Brian. Once it knows, if it knows you're

(01:54:36):
working on a project, say like, I use chat GPT
to learn about large language models and chat bots for
this for this talk, I'm to give right, And once
it new that, I'm like, Okay, he's working on this presentation.
He wants to understand them, but he wants to understand
them at a way at a level at which he
can explain them to a layperson, right, And he himself

(01:54:56):
is not like a tech expert, right, so he has
to understanding of that level. It's it's thoughts you're spying
and saying here's the here's the information, here's how you
can present it to your audience at a conceptual level
so the average person can understand it. And if you want,
I can create a sly for you, you know, to
incert in your talk. That's what it starts doing, and

(01:55:16):
so you know, they can be extremely helpful once they
really fully understand what you're doing and what your goal
is and how you're looking at the project. You know,
I understood it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
Yeah, I get that, and I can see it. For example,
again going back to my you know, my days' is
a litigation attorney. Sometimes you have extraordinarily complex case. You know,
the facts and circumstances and law and elements of it
that you really get used to and you're accustomed to
talking amongst yourselves with your other lawyers. Everybody gets what
you're talking about, you know, but you've got to be

(01:55:47):
able to explain it to a jury who has no
idea where you're coming from. You got to boil it
down and easily understandable a story to tell which connects
all the dots so it makes people that's it sounds
me like what you're accomplishing here.

Speaker 12 (01:56:02):
That's right. So after the vetting process, once you decide okay,
I need these are the five things I need to
learn to understand this, then the next step in my
learning process is actually understanding it. You know, you won't
fully understanding once you vet it. You still have to
go deep into it and understand it. That's when these
chatbots can be incredible because you can just keep going
back and forth and just keep asking it questions about

(01:56:26):
every minute thing that you don't understand, and it'll it'll
explain it to you at the level you want to
understand it or you need to understand it. It'll clarify
the micro elements that you're not getting. It'll give you
metaphors that help you under I want to give you
an example. So these large language models, it's really complex stuff.
So I learned a lot more than the average person,

(01:56:47):
but I'm by no means close to you know, being
a quote tech expert on this, right, But I was
struggling with this for hours, okay, to understand it large
language models, And at some point the chat gave me
an analogy that just crystallized the whole thing for me. Right,
And it was trying to explain, well, it's a large
language model, isn't thinking. It's actually just it's it's using

(01:57:10):
probability to give you the next likely word in its response,
So it's it's a probability machine, right, And it gave
me this metaphor it was it said, it's like autocomplete
on steroids. It just right, So that's literally what it's doing.
It's like on your phone, right when you're typing a
message to someone, a text message, it gives you like

(01:57:32):
you're starting to type the next word, and it gives
you three options to pick one. It's calculating the most
likely next word you're going to use given the context
of what you're typing. Right, Well, that's what a chatbot
is literally doing it. But it's infinitely more complex. The
calculation is infinitely more complex. But it's really just a machine.
It's it doesn't you know, it's not thinking, it's not

(01:57:55):
it's not a person. You know, it's easy to anthropomorphize
these things, right, I really feel like it knows you,
but that Chris lives for me, Like, Okay, it's really
just a machine. It's a probability generating machine.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
Really, and that's that's where the human element is always
going to be critical and going through this exact process
that you're going to be talking about tomorrow night at
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I appreciate you doing this and helping to educate us
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Happy Wednesday to you. I hope you have been a
good one. Welcome back. It's been too long from the
Cincinnaian Quiry. You can find them on line at Cincinnati
dot com. Scott Wortman, pleasure to have you back on
the program. Scott. I hope you're well.

Speaker 6 (01:59:21):
I'm excellent, great to be back. How are you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
I'm doing fine, really actually quite well, living my best
life right now, Scott. I I'm happy to say.

Speaker 6 (01:59:31):
I love to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
This is obviously a really exciting time. Politics is always
exciting for people like you and me, Weed dwellers following politics,
which is what you do. Of course, with the big
race coming up the first week in November, voters going
to get an opportunity to maybe change the direction of
downtown Cincinnati. Maybe not the election, most notably, let's pivot
over and look at the mayoral race. I have to

(01:59:52):
have provol versus Corey Bowman. And what real quick? I
got to get this out of the way, Scott Wortman.
What does everybody always have to say JD Vance's half
brother or JD Vance's brother when referring to Corey Bowman.
It's almost like a default insert in every article that
I read.

Speaker 6 (02:00:09):
Yeah, well, I mean that is everything seems the politically
at least, and actually a lot of news stories go
back to the White House, and I mean it is
something that when people look for news, and because we
see what people read, President Trump and the vice president

(02:00:31):
drives a lot of interest. So I mean that's what
people are interested in.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
But he's Corey Bowman. I've interviewed him here in the
Morning Show many times, I've met him in person. Many
times have been an events where he spoke, and I mean,
he doesn't bring up his brother, he doesn't bring up President.
He certainly is not campaign as a MAGA person. But
then again, he got aptab purval with all these campaign
adds with Donald Trump and JD Vance's picture on it
telling the residents of the city to save us from MAGA,

(02:00:56):
as if they're going to come in and run things
in the city.

Speaker 6 (02:01:00):
Sure, I mean it's still I mean, I don't know
any way that that's going to not be a big
part of the race, since again the White House drives
so many strong emotions and has been very divisive. So
I mean, I don't see I don't see that changing anytime.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
So I don't either. But then again, if I had
a record I was running on, I might want to
prop up my record and talk about all the things
that I've accomplished and why I am a better choice
than the unknown, politically experienced Corey Budelman. I haven't heard
have to have Purvoll do that. And of late, the dominant.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
Corey has made that argument. Yeah in debates too as well.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean that's that's really my only
point to bring it up. I trust me. I'm painfully
aware of how that gets clicks Maga Trump. That always
gets clicks, and of course that can drive clicks on articles.
But after Purple has been running around, at least up
until recent moments in time, saying that there is no
crime problem in the city. Crime is down, it's a
problem of perception. And yet just yesterday he talked about

(02:01:56):
this ongoing gun violence in the wake of what five
shootings in the last couple days, calling it absolutely intolerable
and announcing new measures. He's put in the critical Disturbance
Response Team and SWAT team down at Fountain Square between
two and ten pm every day. That's something brand new.
He's encouraging council members to create an earlier curfew for
Fountain Square, maybe starting at six pm. That just happened.

(02:02:18):
A lot of people were clamoring for action earlier. We
know we're down on police resources. They've been talking about
lateral hires and new classes for a long time. That's
a slow, slow process. So I guess because of the
election is he now appreciating the problem that the residents
of downtown Cincinnati perceive.

Speaker 6 (02:02:36):
I mean, I can't speak like why, you know, whether
it's different in his mind than before the election, but
I mean it is definitely the dominant issue that's not
going to go away, even probably after November, the November election.
But yeah, I mean it's something that every day, even

(02:02:59):
with the statistics which showed city wide, you know, it's
not gone up, but in downtown and some of the
urban areas there there is an uptick in crime and
then shootings downtown. I believe it's like eight more shootings
year of the date than last year. But yeah, I
don't it's definitely something that he can't ignore, right. Well,

(02:03:24):
when you have high profile one, I'm sorry, So when
you have high profile ones like in shooting right in
Fountain Square at the heart of the city, I mean
there's no way to I mean that's a lot of
people witnessed it, you know, first hand.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
Well, and then you have this recent development I was
just talking about before we we we took the break
to bring you on Ruby's closing down its events center
and they cited a problem with the lease and the landlord,
but they did say it was basically safety related, like
maybe providing something like security at the front door, which
doesn't have any security. So even though it's the least
dispute over security, this boils down to security in downtown Cincinnati.

(02:04:03):
So there's one entity that's now gone, and it's not
the first business to close shopp in downtown because of this. People,
I mean, people vote with their feet quite often.

Speaker 6 (02:04:14):
Yeah, and I haven't spoken with Jeff Ruby directly about this,
but from what I saw in the statement, though, I
think they did make it clear that it was a
landlord tenant dispute, So I mean, I don't know have
any inside information on it beyond that, but it did
seem like they wanted to make it clear that it
wasn't the other issues that were involved in it. So

(02:04:35):
beyond that, I don't know what's driving that decision, but
I haven't seen him. I haven't seen him blame crime
specifically on that. Well.

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
Brittany Ruby Miller, who's the CEO and released the statement
with regard to that, did talk about the safety at
the front door, but I'll grant you it was o
released dispute. But in a follow up statement, she concluded
with a comment. While first saying she doesn't want to
get into politics, she concluded with change only happens when
the pain of staying the same exceeds the pain of change.

(02:05:03):
So to me, that's a suggestion maybe a change of
administration is necessary to deal with the crime problem.

Speaker 6 (02:05:13):
I haven't seen that statement, but I mean, yet, it
does seem like that it could be where she's gone
with that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:18):
Yeah, definitely. Do you do any internal polling or polling
with regard to how things are shaking out? I know
it as small as the council race and the mayor
races relative to national elections and statewide elections, we don't
get nearly as much polling. But have you seen that
polling information at all related to this race.

Speaker 6 (02:05:35):
No, And we actually looked into that and we put
some bids out for some firms that do polling, and
we didn't get any bites on it. And I talked
with the candidates and no, there has not been any
polling on this race. So it's basically just anecdotal. And
I mean, you have the primary to go on, but

(02:05:56):
that's about it. So it's pretty much anyone's gas.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Well, in addition to crime, obviously that's on the number
one conversation talking point with regard to what's going on downtown.
We have the I guess four hundred miles of roads
that need to be repaid. That's been a problem that's
been building for years and years. But when you're out
and about and you're talking about this race, do you
hear the idea of zoning come up? I know, we

(02:06:20):
had this massive problem with Hyde Park and they revolted
and wanted it to be put on the ballot. They
were successful in getting the development. They're put the brakes
put on it. But what of all the other communities,
Bond Hill and everybody else who's now underneath this umbrella
called connected Communities, which is a one size fits all
approach for all of downtown Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (02:06:40):
I hear the zoning issue, like when it comes up
in regards to like the community councils, do they have
enough input or are they being ignored? And that's usually
from people that are like plugged in and engage, But
I don't know how much of that is for like
the general populace. I mean, one of the big issues
when I first over this beat in the spring, what

(02:07:04):
was speed bumps and potholes and it's kind of like
the basic services. So, I mean, I do think zoning
is an issue, but I don't know if it's going
to move the needle one way or the other in
the election.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
Well Man, moving the needle one way or there you
talk about plugged in and engageing. We got a chuckle
out of me on that one. The voter turnout in
downtown today is pretty poor. I think what ten percent
and maybe fifteen percent? Do you see this election as
resulting in a higher voter turnout? I mean, if you
had to read tea leaves into as we fast approach November,
Scott Ortman, do you think more people are going to

(02:07:40):
actually show up in this one?

Speaker 6 (02:07:43):
I mean, this is my first one full time on
the city election, but my experience with elections in general,
and this could be different because I mean, I think
I do think more people in the last I would
say ten years are coming out to vote and paying
attention to politics. But these off year elections where there
isn't like a major but there isn't a congressional race,

(02:08:05):
or there isn't a presidential race, probably not. It's still
probably going to be a lower turnout. I haven't I
haven't yet spoken to the Board of Elections on their predictions.
I don't even know if they have a projection yet
on it, but probably it will be better than the primary,
but it's probably still not it's probably going to I mean,

(02:08:26):
I don't I hesitate to give a actual prediction, but
it's not going to be like in a presidential race
or even in a congressional race. I wouldn't think.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
So don't expect a fifty percent turnout in downtown since
for this one, Scott, I suppose we can.

Speaker 6 (02:08:40):
I would think not.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Yeah, but you know, but it illustrates the point. You know,
in and off your election, your vote matters so much
more than it would in any other election cycle. I mean,
it's it seems to me you should serve as a
great incentive for the city residents to show up and vote.

Speaker 6 (02:08:55):
Oh yeah, I mean that's what democracy is all about.
And as they you know, the cliche goes, but it's
the cliche for a reason. If you don't vote, you
can't complain.

Speaker 1 (02:09:05):
Scott Warmanton, you shouldn't, at least well you shouldn't, clearly,
Scott Wormanton saying, inquire since any dot comments where you
find Scott any other observations you want to pass along
to my listeners that you've encountered as you've been following
this race.

Speaker 6 (02:09:15):
Scott Well, I mean, I think the big question this
race is whether a non Democrat can get on city council.
I mean that's going to be because I think it
is possible, but it's very tough because it's one of
those things. And this is also what's so hard to
predict elections. What you hear and see online. Again, those

(02:09:36):
are for people that are plugged in, but isn't necessarily
how the general population votes. And so at least in
the last like four or five city elections, the Democratic
slate card has been incredibly influential on the overall voting

(02:09:57):
public in the city. So whether that whole it's true
or not, I think a few people might be able
to break through, But whether they will or not, that
is I'll be very interested to see.

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Well as an you know, encouragement for my listeners and
everybody else is considering voting. If you perceive crime as
being a problem, there are judicial races that people need
to pay close attention to. And you talk about having
to be a weed dwell or if you don't have
any interaction with the judicial system. You're only tangentially even
thinking about it. People tend to gloss over the judicial races,
but they are critically oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:10:32):
And the issue with why they often will get a
lot of attention is because of ethics rules. They judicial
candidates are limited in what they can say and you
know what they can say in interviews and stump speeches,
so they often do get overlooked. But yeah, they have
a tremendous impact on the laws and what people see
out there.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
Yeah, no advisory opinions from judges. That's a violation of
the rules of ethics. Scott Ortman from the Cincinna Choir,
my listeners and I be following you on Cinsinni dot
com and reading what you have to write about it,
and we'll all keep our popcorn out as we fast
approach November.

Speaker 6 (02:11:04):
Thank you, Brian, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
Always a pleasure, Scott. Take care and have a great day.
Eight forty one. Right now, fifty five kcity talk station
phone lines are open. Feel free to call.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
Uh, it's called an Epley maneuver. You can do it
at home. I did it at home yesterday. Problem solved. Yeah,
takes five minutes ten minutes tops. So God, bless my
listening audience, and thank you for allowing me the opportunity
to do a little complaining yesterday. It definitely yielded a
wonderful diagnosis and result. Not happy that I had to
go through it, but I'm a smarter, better man now,

(02:11:35):
and I typically can say that every morning after the
morning show because I always end up learning something, and
I sure hope you do too. Stick around. We got
an opportunity to talk coming up. One more segment left
in the morning show, So ring up the phones five
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talk station dation. I heard b the aviation expert Jay

(02:11:57):
Rat left tomorrow every Thursday at eight thirty, assuming he's
not a vacation or out of town or something, and
it's go to the phones. Five one, three, seven, four
nine fifty five hundred eight hundred and eight two three talk.
A man whose name came up earned the program when
I was talking about American military bases turning to these
micro nuclear reactors to power their own facilities. The reactors
can be loaded on a shipping container, they could be

(02:12:18):
easily moved. They're small, and they produce twenty gigawatts of
power or something like that, which can power an entire town.
The answer to all of our energy production needs. When
can we the American people get those cribbage Mike, my
submarine or friend. I thought about you had mentioned your
name this morning because you always point out American military
has been having the ships and submarines powered by nuclear

(02:12:39):
power since the late fifties, and how many incidents and
disasters have we had, Mike, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (02:12:44):
That would be a big fat zero zilch nod on,
mister Thomas.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
That's what I thought you'd say.

Speaker 3 (02:12:50):
Every submarine since nineteen fifty four and every aircraft carrier
since nineteen fifty.

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
Nine seems to work pretty well.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
Beauty for about twenty years now. They put one core
in those submarines. They don't even need refuel them. They're
good for thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
Amazing, and yet you and I can't have that technology,
Mike crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
Well, thanks to mi ARMI brethren, and hopefully and I
don't see how we get around it with these AI
data banks that are that are required. Foreign countries are
using them, so I think it's just a matter of time.
Well in come, the left has no argument as far
as if they want to talk about carbon neutral exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:13:27):
And they're wealthy companies who have the capital to purchase
on their own their own nuclear reactor. They don't need
government as systems or involvement other than to reduce the
regulatory struggles and hurdles that they face moving in that direction.
I see a bright future in our world because of
the AI centers, and as well because of this step,
the American military has taken under this project to power
independently their own facilities by calendar year twenty twenty eight.

(02:13:51):
If they can do it, if AI can do it,
we can all do it. States can rapidly move in
this direction, zero carbon emission, but unlimited power that doesn't
require the sun or the wind.

Speaker 3 (02:14:01):
Well, God bless those enlisted nuclear operators and the officers
of the engineers, because parents, if you're looking for a
place for your son and daughter that can go aboard
a submarine or an aircraft carrier and operate that, you're
talking six figures with obviously zero college debt. And then
if you can imagine that these small nuclear reactors get
out there to support these AI databases, the dangling carrot

(02:14:23):
that'll be out there from the civilian community.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
Oh and AI cannot do the work of someone that
is required to build and operate the nuclear reactors. Mike,
So a good career operatority in that field alone. Yes, sir,
all right, you didn't call to talk about that, though,
you know.

Speaker 3 (02:14:40):
You know, well, I'll talk all day long at that
because it just makes too much sense. But another thing
that makes too much sense is that they're talking about
our downtown, as you well know. I've worked there for
the last twelve and a half years at the casino,
and that, you know what that I think it may
be the Canary and the coal Mine with them shutting
down that event center, because that was a a beautiful place.

(02:15:01):
I was in it once and now that they've moved
over there. You know, think about it. If you live
out in the suburbs and you want to have a
nice steak dinner and you're a Ruby fan, or you're
going to go to Carlos and Johnny's, you're going to
go downtown. You know, if you don't feel safe going there,
I think I would love to see that what the
attendance is for the TAFF and the air and off
and probably the last year's I've seen it in my
casino over the last twelve and a half years, you know,

(02:15:23):
and we've invested tremendous technology and resources, but at the
general public don't feel safe going down, mainly at night.
Because my wife and I were down at Riverfest and
that was a beautiful, you know, turn out of people
and stuff like that, but it's so different. I think
a big test will be tomorrow night for this Steelers
Bengals game because they're going to have the TVs on
the square. You're talking like sixty thousand people. But that's

(02:15:45):
not the issue. It's after the people that want to
go out and have a little bit of adult beverage
maybe after the game or just enjoy the night. Are
they going to do that or are they in their
cars and they're.

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
Out of there.

Speaker 3 (02:15:55):
Weeks of people will wake up and it isn't a
matter of putting SWAT on Found Square.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
Just gonna mention that, because you better be out by
ten pm because that's when Swatt and the Civil Disturbance
Response team packs it up and goes home. Two to
ten PM.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
Oh, we know there's no COVID after ten pm, so
maybe there's no crime.

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
That's right, I forgot ten pm is a magic number,
isn't it, Mike? Yeah, and you know that. Further to
that point, my wife has expressed a profound reluctance. I
want to go back downtown. We saw a lot of
concerts at the Brady Center, never had any problem. But
considering where all of this violence seems to unfold, and
that's down to the Banks general area, don't have a

(02:16:35):
real desire to hit the Brady Center anytime soon. If
you know what I mean, Mike, exactly, I'll see it.
Listen to lunch next month, right, yes, sir, all right,
be prepared for another brutal beating and game of cribbage.
Let's see what Charlie's got. Charlie, thanks for calling this morning.
Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 13 (02:16:49):
Happy Wednesday, Yeah oh ye, Happy Wednesday, Brian. I love
your program. I listened all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Thanks pretty quick.

Speaker 13 (02:16:56):
Questions when does that empower you?

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
On chat?

Speaker 8 (02:17:00):
What to day?

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
And tomorrow night?

Speaker 8 (02:17:02):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
Seven pm? All the information you can click on my
blog page. Joe's got the link right there, and or
go directly to empower You America dot org. It's the
first seminar right there. Click on the register you'll be
all set to go. If you can want to log
in from home, you can do that or show up
at three hundred Grade Oaks Drive at the studio to
see it live. But it should be a good opportunity

(02:17:24):
for Q and A on that one too. And I
think it's going to be a fascinating, fascinating conversation and topic.

Speaker 13 (02:17:30):
Yeah, it sounds really good. You had the second question
I had Monday. You mentioned that an article by Purvol
criticizeing Mega et cetera. Ye, was that in the Was
that in the Monday in choir?

Speaker 1 (02:17:43):
You know, I don't remember where I got that. Strucker
is the one that put that article out. But the
article itself contained a photograph of the campaign literature that's
circulating showing Donald Trump and JD Vance's heads with it
was on all signal ninety nine posts that. Yeah, if
you're on Facebook, Charlie just followed signal ninety nine. She

(02:18:05):
is brilliant with her posts. She's got wit, she's got humor,
and she pulls no punches whatsoever. Most recently on the
Jeff Ruby pulling out a dodge with that facility that
you just closed. So thank you, Charlie. I hope you
enjoy the seminar tomorrow night. I remember empower you America
dot or get registered for that. Do you get a

(02:18:26):
chance to listen? This morning, we had the Big Picture
with Jack Atherton, brilliant as always, is consensus dead. You'll
find that at fifty five cars dot Com. Donald and
Neil passing out another Torch Award and an opportunity for
you and I to get involved and help do some groundwork,
get these policies pushed through that we're all fighting for.
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