55KRC Wednesday Show - Restore Liberty, Jack Atherton, Empower U =, Hillary Shulman, Judge Napolitano

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Five o five at fifty five k r C the
talk station, Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Some said.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It was a vacation and that's the way the news goes. Yes,
it is Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas right here, glad to
be in stack ground all morning here at fifty five
kr CD talk station and got lots of guests lined
up today. Thank you executive producer Joe Strecker for that.
And apparently the first groups of veterans are starting to arrive.

(00:47):
According to Mike, my submariner for our submarine her friend
and cribbage Mike uh sent me a Facebook and some
message it is Honor Flight tri State Day today and
hopefully you can mark that down on your calendar. To
show up at CVG. Try to get there about eight thirty,
and sometimes the event happens somewhere between eight thirty and
nine ish, sometimes a little bit later, but you know,

(01:07):
it depends on you know, the veterans getting off the
plane and when the plane arrives and all that. But
I think you're on solid ground if you show up
at CVEG about eight thirty. Police bring the young people
really important that they get the shot of patriotism in
the arm and see what it's all about, and of
course thank the veterans. So anyway they're there. Apparently Channel

(01:28):
nineteen reporter and videography is going to be on the
flight this time, so we'll hit some footage from Channel nineteen.
So Fox nineteen, thank you very much for allocating the
reporting staff to this wonderful, wonderful event, and safe travels
to all the veterans who are getting ready to take off. So,
without further ado, what's coming up today? George Brenneman restore

(01:48):
Liberty dot Us talking about the meeting at the farm
that's taken place tonight. George got a finger on the
button of all politics. So George will be on at
six point thirty to talk about that. We'll get the
big picture. Jack Atherton returns at seven oh five. Kind
of a weekly event. Now black Men for Trump. Interesting
topic of conversation with Jack considering Jason Riley black Man

(02:13):
analyzing that reality. Why are Democrats losing Black voters topic
of his op ed piece. You can check itut on
the Wall Street shourning today. If I don't get to
some of the details in that to the party's difficulties
with working class Americans, turn out to cross racial lines. Yeah,
if everybody's feeling a bad economy, it doesn't matter what
color skin you are. You suffering under a bad economy,

(02:34):
and that's what you got under the current administration. Of course,
obviously backed up by the stark reality of comparing where
we are now inflation wise, price wise, affordability of homes wise.
We can go across the board on all that. Well,
wife paid five five dollars for gas yesterday. It was premium,

(02:55):
but five bucks. I don't have to look at gasbuddy
dot com. See maybe she got ripped offers. That's a trend,
that is a significant amount. Haven't heard that for a
long time anyway. Jack Evid at seven oh five, followed
by Joseph Ashbrook doing an empower youth seminar important Supreme
Court cases. This session going to love that one, so

(03:17):
Joseph at seven thirty. At eight oh five, Hillary Shulman,
Ohio State School of Communication, it's going to study that
shows a predicting vote choice depends on the wording of
the ballot language. Maybe we'll be talking about issue one. Well,
the wordings rather lengthy, and the actual constitutional amendment I
think is going to double the size of the Ohios

(03:38):
Constitution just by that one ballot initiative. So vote no
on one if you want to take my advice otherwise
look into it. I like some measure of accountability. Even
if our politicians are not always doing what we would
hope they do, at least you can vote them out
of office next time around. You can't do anything about
this ridiculous so called independent Committee of Citizens. No politicians, Well,

(04:02):
I don't know that being a politician necessarily disqualifies you
for anything. I know we all have a bad taste
in our mouth about politics and politicians generally, thus it
has ever been doesn't mean they're all bad people, and
it doesn't mean they're not qualified to participate in a
rejai in a jerrymandering panel anyway, Hillary at eighth five

(04:23):
on from the Honive State School of Communication, And of
course it's Wednesday eight thirty with Judge Annitapolitano. War in
the Constitution, Yes, we do have a constitution. It does
have a declaration of war that power resides exclusively in Congress,
and of course they've ignored it ever since World War Two.
Last time Congress has ever made a declaration of war.

(04:43):
And maybe we've got a declaration of war going on
in our country. I'll be going over to the immigration situation,
obviously one of the dominant dominant topics in this race.
Donald Trump far and away leading Kamala Harris in terms
of who's better suited to handle the border. We all
know the facts and the information. We got new CBP

(05:04):
data showing the number of illegal immigrants or I'm sorry, legal.
There's a difference in the hearts and minds of the government.
It's legal if you use the CBP one app and
you sign up aheat a time and you catch a
free airplane flight to the United States where they will
set you up in oh I don't know, perhaps Lachland.
One point four million of those entered lawfully over just

(05:27):
the last two years. And you can add that on
to the number of illegal immigrants flowing over the southern border,
a number that has dropped recently since June fifth, when
Joe Biden issued a proclamation along the lines of exactly
what Donald Trump had in place. When Joe Biden got
sworn into office and got rid of the proclamations, number

(05:50):
of folks across from the southern border has decreased fifty
five percent decrease since January fifth, and Joe Biden's executive
pen proclamation, something he could have done well by not
undoing what Donald Trump had done in the first place.
This problem lies exclusively with and blame. It lies exclusively
with Joe Biden and the Biden Harris administration. Remember Konala

(06:12):
Harris borders are But we've got WCPO reporting now. We
had an early report in September about what's going on
in Lachland, Valerie Lions reporting. Now this has made national
news one of the ever growing number of small towns
overwhelmed and caught off guard by the influx of migrant population.

(06:32):
Whether they're illegal or legal, it doesn't really matter if
the administration is declaring them legal because they well jumped
aboard as CBP one plane after throwing out an APP.
I say that's questionable. Does the administration have the right
to change the underlying immigration laws which remain on the books.

(06:54):
I don't know if that's been litigated yet and probably
has not. But they declare them legal if they're on
board because of the CBP one app they're illegal with
across the southern border regardless if you're in Lachland and
the village has doubled in size and population because of
whether illegal or legal immigrants. You've got a problem on
your hands. Twenty twenty three, it's written Lachland population thirty

(07:18):
five hundred people. One year later, apparently a courd of
the village leader's number has doubled because of the three
thousand plus West African migrants who have moved into this
one tiny, one point two mile square foot residents one

(07:41):
point two miles Lachland Mayor Mark Basin speaking with WCPO
on Tuesday. With the federal government's open border policy, these
immigration population outbursts have been left for small villages like
Lachland to have to deal with. If they're going to
have an open border policy, they're going to need a
policy to direct these immigrants and communities that can withstand

(08:02):
that kind of population out first one point two square
mile village, it's unsustainable. Mostly from Mauritania. More than eighty
five hundred Mauritanians came to Ohio between March and June
of twenty twenty three. Many of them live in the

(08:25):
Cincinnati area, according to the US Customs and Border Protection data.
I guess they track the folks. They do have mechanisms
to track them if they're interested in tracking Maritanians going
coming to Cincinnati from a route posted on TikTok and
WhatsApp Apparently this describes how you get from Mauritania into
the United States, or specifically Lachlan goes from Maritania to Turkey,

(08:50):
then Central or South America to the United States. Can
you imagine that this many people were able to do that.
Mauritania not exactly a high gross domestic product country. It's
in West Africa, not exactly next door. Mayor Mason said,

(09:12):
in the last year, it's just balloon TikTok stories telling
people how to get to the village of Lachland. And
I think that's aided the explosion well, plus the Biden
administration of course facilitating. And they say because many of
the three thousand migrants living in the village do not
work legally, accord to the mayor, they don't pay taxes.
We're looking at right now probably close to two hundred

(09:34):
thousand dollars shortfall in our earnings income tax revenue, he said.
Doug Waymeyer, serves as the village's administrator and fire chief,
said emergency services are over burdened too. He said, the
fire department makes an average of fifteen hundred emergency runs

(09:57):
each year. That number has increased twelve percent, with almost
all of the extra percentage coming from calls buy or
on behalf of the Martinian community members. He said, if
you look at response map in our area, there are
two bright red zones on the heat map, and that
heat map would show you that the two count them
apartment complexes that the majority of the Maritanians are living at.

(10:19):
That's where the calls are coming from. So they're close
to two hundred units between the apartment complexes, almost every
single one occupied by Martinian tenants. As we learned the
other day, many of the rooms supposed to only have
four people in them have as many as twelve. That's
overwhelming the plumbing system, by the way, that was what
was reported the other day. Yeah, you got ross sewage

(10:40):
going into the apartments below the ones that are well
overwhelmed with multiple occupants anyway, he said, but instead of
two or four people, many cases upwards of a dozen
people cramming inside. And the village leader said firefighters are
typically responding to cooking fires. Weimer said, the more severe

(11:00):
and we responded to structure fire than involved to apartment
units within the Mulberry Court complex, which of all the
evacuation of literally hundreds of Mauritanians in thirty five years
in the fire service, I don't think I've ever seen
more people standing outside the outside of a building as
I did when we arrived on the scene. Cultural differences,

(11:22):
they say Martinians primary language Arabic and French, and many
of those residing in the Lachland do not speak English,
which creates communication difficulties and fire safety and code issues.
You can't blame these native residents for wanting to have
a safe situation for their families to reside in. Mason said, yeah,

(11:49):
CPO ass mayor may sit if the village had attempted
conversations with the Mauritanian populations, to which the mayor had
a quick reply. I'm reading the line from the article
quote good luck with that because they don't speak English.
Close quote. He says repeatedly sought help from local state leaders,

(12:12):
including Governor Mike DeWine Senator JD Vance shared Brown, to
help with the strain on the community. No financial assistance
has yet made its way to lock them, but he's
still hopeful. He won't have to wait much longer. All right, Oh,
just a little, just a dab of reality. You know
we've been talking about, you know, San Francisco overwhelmed, Los Angeles,
overwhelmed for years, the border, you know, communities of McCallen, Texas,

(12:36):
for example, overwhelmed New York, overwhelmed Chicago if I mentioned
it before, overwhelmed, billions of dollars spent, hotels occupied, occupied
one hundred percent by illegal immigrants that are being paid
for by the taxpayer dollars. You know, the hoteliers love
that because then otherwise empty hotel room is filled and
they get their full rate. But now it's here, and

(13:00):
it has been Corey said ten thousand ship to Lima,
Ohio as well. Haven't seen that, Corey, don't have any
reason to doubt. You give them what's going on here
in Laughlin? Among other communities? I think it was, was
it Springdale? Yeah? Five eighteen fifty five KRCD talk station.

(13:20):
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now fifty five KRCD talk station five two on a Wednesday,
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Mark and I get you the next Jeff Mark, thanks

(14:11):
for holding. Welcome to the program. Mourn Brian.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Everything you said about Lachlan is absolutely true. Our office
is right down the street from Wyoming Avenue there and uh,
that place is overrun and I mean there if there's
no better way to explain it. And there's also two
different factions in there.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
There's actually you have the.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Ones that wear like the roade type clothing and then
you have a bunch of them that wear skinny jeans
and you know, look like they grew up here, but
they they wear two different types of clothing, and from
what I understand, they don't particularly care for each other.
Malkolams the powder keg. It really is and I noticed

(15:04):
it over a year ago. It's been like that for
probably a year and a half, two years ago.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And oh no, I was. There was no reference to
other than the fire reports and the number of people
living within the buildings obviously causing problems plumbing and otherwise.
But have you noticed, or do you know anecdotally or
or based on statistics from the police department that there's
been an increase in crime in the area.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I don't. I can't speak to that. I do know that.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I think there was about a year ago one guy
shot the other one I turned the middle of Wyoming
Avenue in the middle of the day.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
That was.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
That was the two different They had a beef about something.
And like I said, I do know that that was
part of that community. We have had them come down
to our building trying to fill out job applications. They
can't write or speak English. They do speak French, that

(16:08):
is true, and they basically none of them are working.
That you that you can tell because during the day
they're all out kneeling around on the sidewalks and riding
both bicycles up and down.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
I mean, if you didn't know better, you'd think it
was in Mogadishu.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
It's I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Unreal and uh And I've had some conversations with the
police there and based on our location and security of
our things that we've had happen. And I'm not saying
it's related to that community, but it's a problem. And
I see it more and more around the different suburbs Cincinnati.

(16:48):
It ain't just it's not just Lachland like you said,
it's Springdale, it's Sharonville. And I talked to you earlier
this spring when I was in the process of moving
and I moved out in Hennah And yeah, I have
a forty five minute drive now. But I'm gonna tell
you what, There's the best decision I ever made was
to get out of Cincinnati. And I think you draw

(17:10):
a circle around Cincinnati and within five years all of
those communities that I just mentioned, you won't recognize them
because I know in Blue Ash they're housing illegals in
hotels and there's also there's a hotel next to McDonald's
on Cornell Road that they are housing, not only the
illegals in there, but also section eight where their school
buses picking kids up of migrants and immigrants going taking

(17:35):
them to schools in Blue Ash And there's several of
the hotels in that area that they keep it hush hush.
But I know that for a fact that there's illegals
being housed, and it's probably more widespread than what we
even know because in a lot of these places are
trying to keep it hush hush.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, And that always puzzles me, Mark, Why would they
want to keep it hush? Has reality, it's obviously a
financial problem, it's a housing problem, it's a security problems.
There's a multitude of things. And you know this problem
in Lachlan. You know it's been widely reported now, but
it's been going on for now for some time, as
have some of the other communities you mentioned, And the

(18:17):
Springfield situation has been building and growing over time, and
that was a huge shift in population and dramatic shift.
How and why it's kept quiet is really something I
think we need to ask more often. Why our local
reporters aren't reporting on it, why elected officials aren't bringing
it to the public's attention. Most notably if they are
running into financial issues as a consequence of this influx

(18:41):
over which people apparently have no control. I appreciate it, Mark,
and I certainly understand your decision and moving. It's just
the sad reality that more and more people are going
to do that. See the entire state of California for example.
Thanks brother, take care, appreciate the calle Jeff, we're gonna
have to hold if you don't mind. Out of time
in the segment, I will be right back. Who we
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fifty five kre CD talk station five thirty one on
a Wednesday. Before I get to the local stories, anybody
can call that Mark our Jeff rather was kind of
up the hold of the break there, Jeff, Thanks for
calling and holding. Welcome to the program.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
I'll tell you I'm glad I took my blood pressure
medicine before you started talking about Locke on this morning.
Might have stroked out this morning. I'm gonna so so
upset hearing about these stories. And I know it's a
you know, every town's a border town now based on
everything that's happening. But one of the things I find interesting,
and I'm really just the pointing our friends on the
on the right. You know, if something like the CVP

(20:04):
one app would have been started, you know, in the
reverse maybe to get rid of people the Democrats would
have had us in federal courts so quickly, would make
your head spend. Yet we never seem to take advantage
of those same tactics to try to get a temporary
restraining order or something to slow these sons down, and
we just let it happen. I don't understand why we

(20:26):
aren't more aggressive about those sorts of things. Is that,
you know, based on your legal experience of it. I mean,
do you think there's some way to that or why
can't we be some of the similar things to slow
them down.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, a lot of you know, a lot of Biden's
policies have been challenged in court. His debt forgiveness has
been challenged in court, and of course the court's rejected it,
and other I mean, Trump was challenged in court over
certain executive orders. And I honestly do not know whether
or not this CBP one app has been subjected to
court challenges. I just haven't read anything about it. I'll

(21:00):
have to independently research it to find out. But you know,
you're right. I think, you know, Republicans aren't quite as
aggressive as they could be when they're trying to stop
things from happening like this. You know, there are and
I just turned to the underlying laws on the books.
There are laws on the books what qualifies someone for
you know, lawful entry into our country, like political persecution,

(21:22):
individual persecution, that kind of thing. It's not economics. If
you have it just a crappy economy, that's not justification
to come to the United States of America. So I
really wish I had the answer to that, and I
apologize I don't, but it's certainly something that if I
was in a position of power and elected capacity, I
would have tried at least to stop it because it
does seem beyond the well, outside the boundaries of the

(21:45):
executive branch of the government. Right, that's supposed to be
something Congress acts on our border policies. So you know,
I don't hold your breath waiting for anything to pass legislatively,
because of course the makeup of Congress is so divided
they can't do anything. I don't know whether it's be
glad about that or unhappy, but well, you know, November
is important, and if you want to cut down on

(22:06):
the number of people flowing into our country seemingly unregulated
and unchecked, you have a clear advantage in Donald Trump
over Kamala Harris on that one issue. And if that's
it you got, that's a vote for Trump. I appreciate
the call. Let us see here, oh real quick here
from Local Stories headline Scott Wartman and the quirre soaring
property assessments could hurt levies on election day. It's just

(22:29):
a mere acknowledgment that our property taxes have gone through
the blank and roof, and there are more than forty
tax levees on the ballot for the Cincinnati region, which
many people might not want to vote for because the
property tax have gone through the roof other headlines thanks
to seb CPO. Look at this eleven tax levees on
the ballot in Butler County, one county eleven tax levees. Now,

(22:55):
of course those tax levees don't impact each Butler County resident,
eleven of them. And I think this is a dumb idea,
okay for since ANI Police Chief Teresa Thiji, she wants
to set the right example. Connor Steffan from WCPO rewarding,
we the since ANY police department, city administration do not

(23:16):
want to be part of the gun violence in our city.
We appreciate the people all the time about safe storage,
be responsible gun under and so that is incumbent upon
us as well. It's okay, so the since II Police Department,
I guess this is Teresa Thiji's idea. It's going to
end a gun buyback program that's been in place with
Smith and Wesson for some time. What they did was

(23:38):
every five years, I guess the police officers get a
new firearm, they send the retired firearms back to the manufacturer.
The manufacturer gives them new guns at a discount. Nothing
wrong with that. Well, they're not going to do that anymore.
The police department is now going to destroy the police
officer's older weapons. She said. Every five years, officers receive

(24:00):
a new firearm, and what we would normally do is
work with our manufacturer and sometimes do a one for
one trade. In other words, no money out of the
pocket of the police department. We just get new guns,
she said during a trade with the manufacturer. Was beneficial
in a financial aspect for us. Right, Well, they get
rid of the program. Now now they're gonna have to

(24:21):
pay full price for the brand new firearm. Okay, it's
why the Cincinnati City Council approved the allocation of five
hundred thousand dollars from it's called carryover budget to the
Cincinni Police Department so they can go ahead and pay
full price for firearms that the otherwise could have got
either a even swap or at a substantial discount by
letting Smith and Wes them have the old ones back.

(24:44):
What seriously, apparently this was at the directive of a mayor,
a f tab perval, shocking no one. The accessibility of
guns on our street, both legal and the illegal, is
contributing to the gun violence problem that we're seeing in
our community. The idea that we will send service weapons
back to the manufacturers so they could just sell them
and get them back on the streets. Struck us as

(25:06):
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By forty two if you have kercity talk station. Happy Wednesday,
Honor flight Wednesday. Someone who knows all about that, my
submarine or friend cribbage Mike, Welcome to the show, my friend.
How's it going there, Ah.

Speaker 9 (28:11):
Brian, The opening ceremonies just started. In fact, you may
hear some bagpipes here. Shortly. We have eighty five veterans,
probably a handful of Korean, but Korean conflict veterans, they're
almost the greater majority or Vietnam vets. Spoke to one
of those Vietnam vets. This is his first time on
a commercial airliner. Obviously the military provided his air travel

(28:34):
over to in country. But he's never seen the Vietnam War.
So he's definitely looking forward to that and paying homage.
But those eighty Vietnam vets are going to get the
welcome home tonight that they did not get.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Oh, you're straight on that. It's a tremendous.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
Allergy outbreak to America.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
They thank you for what you did. I can only
imagine I'm just making getting a little algia oup, right,
just thinking about the reality. Yeah, yeah, those guys deserve
it more than any Well, I'm making way the value
of our veterans and their service, but we certainly treated
the American veteran poorly in the Vietnam conflict, so they
deserve all the love and support they can get today.

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So I hope you have a wonderful flight. Are they
excited about it?

Speaker 9 (29:19):
They are so fired up, And it's good to see
every guardian I spoke to was also either a son
or a grandson. So just to see that bonding and
to be able to, oh, I know what's ahead of them,
to see their memorials, it just you know, don't carry
this the rest of their life.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now, Oh yeah, ah, But to share the experience with
a family member like that, that's awesome. Oh well, I
sure can't thank you enough for calling in and for
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Flight Trice date, and I'll be encouraging my listeners to
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program this morning, and I hope it is a huge turnout.

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We've been average in about twenty three hundred ever since.
We're in this new facility on the arrival or rather
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get the World War two bets. Well, this is a
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we'll ever see another World War two bet, but we
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Speaker 1 (30:22):
Amen to that. Yeah, Korean War is almost like a
forgotten one if you think, I mean, in terms of
our perspective and our discussions about it and acknowledgment that
there were even men losing their lives in Korea. So
God bless you, Mike. Thank you so much for the update.
Look forward to having a huge turnout tonight at CVG
for those wonderful veterans and Forday families. Please bring the children.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
As you say, no better history lesson than what you'll
see tonight at nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's truth being spoken right there. Thank you for your
service to our country, my dear friend. I'll look forward
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look at you calling tomorrow and you give me a
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can count on it, sir, take care of brother and
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Speaker 1 (33:51):
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(39:24):
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and more Democrats distance them distance themselves from the Biden
Harris campaign or the Kamala Harris campaign, referring to some
vulnerable Senate Democrats in swing states, notably Pennsylvania's Bob Casey,

(40:28):
Wisconsin's Danny Baldwin, and Representative Elisa Slotkin running for an
open Senate seat in Michigan starting to appeal to Trump voters.
We have that happening in Ohio as well, shared Brown, Yes,
trying to appeal to Republicans by trying to pass themself
off as a moderate. My listeners are smarter than that. Harris,

(40:53):
not doing yourself any favors out on the campaign trail.
Most notably, my abortion obviously is a big issue. I
don't know why I mean, I understand conceptually why abortion
is a big issue for a lot of people, But
in so far as the federal race is concerned, how
many times can I say it and how many times
do I have to say it for the candidates wake
up to the blank in reality that they should just

(41:14):
say it's not a federal issue. The Constitution doesn't address it.
That's what the Dobbs decision said when the overall Roe v.
Wait it is a state issue. Nonetheless, Kamala Harris ignoring
the Supreme Court and what the decision actually meant. She's
speaking with NBC News yesterday. Washington correspondent Hallie Jackson asks,

(41:36):
so is a question of pragmatism, then what concessions would
be on the table? Religious exemptions, for example, Is that
something you, Kamala Harris would consider if the Republicans control
Congress again, the response should be no, it has nothing

(41:57):
to do with Congress. It's a state's issue. Can we
move on be Now, that's not, of course, what Kamala
Harris wants to do. She wants to make you think
your right to an abortion is in jeopardy. Maybe it
is depending on the state you live in. Certainly not
in Ohio anymore. Her response, I don't think we should
be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom

(42:17):
to make decisions about your own body. So, in other words,
in spite of the fact that the First Amendment to
the United States Constitution and first and foremost Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, i e.
Were not a theocracy or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
That comes in front of abridging the freedom of speech

(42:39):
or the press, the right of the people to peace
li assemble, or to petition the government for redress agrievances.
It's number one. You can't prohibit the free exercise of religion.
Isn't that exactly what she wants to do. I'm sorry,
your religion says abortion is bad. You're a physician who
don't want doesn't want to participate in it. I think
she's suggesting they can make you. Jackson asked Harris if

(43:03):
she would be willing to extend an olive branch to
those like Senator's Lisa Murkowski Susan Collins. She said she
wasn't going to engage in hypotheticals and quote, a basic
freedom has been taken from the women of America the
freedom to make decisions about their own body, and that
cannot be negotiable, which is that we need to put

(43:25):
back in the protections of Roe v. Wade, and that
is it. So I think you can take this statement,
her first statement, for example, let's take out the words
of your own body and just put in the word
religion like something consistent with the First Amendment. I don't
think we should be making concessions when we're talking about
a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your religion. At

(43:48):
least you could turn to the Constitution and make a
great argument, but that's what the First Amendment says. Don't
know how any scorny points on that one, but I
can't imagine that working very well among my more astute
understanding the law listening listeners. And as everybody remember, the

(44:11):
Russian collusion Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Hunter Biden laptop it
is collusion has fifty one Americans, most notably those formerly
serving in high levels of government, including the CIA and
intelligence officials. It has all the earmarks of Russia, Russia,
oh my god, discounted even though they knew, I think,

(44:31):
well almost a year in advance of that statement being
issued to try to convince you that the Hunter Biden
laptop wasn't real, just in time for the election. And
it turns out we were all lied to, all of
them outrute lives, outright lives. And so with that background,
I pivot over to this article. I saw it was
on Newsmax. I'll give credit to Jonathan Landy and Patricia Zengerly. Anyway,

(44:58):
according to US officials, yes, third Day Russia, China, and
Iran are intent on fanning divisive narratives to divide Americans
ahead of the US election, and may consider fomenting violence
after voters go to the polls. This is the part
that I've been worried about. I'm not worried about election day.
I'm worried about the day after. Let's say Donald Trump

(45:19):
gets elected. What happened last time Donald Trump got elected?
Who poured out into the streets, right, A bunch of
women wearing pink cats, and Chris Silbach was among them
wearing pink cats. You remember those, don't you. And of
course then you had the Antifa taking over cities, You
had BLM protests and on and on and all. They
were all built and driven by left wingers and their

(45:41):
financial backers. They're the ones that took to the streets. Joe,
Do you remember the time all those evil right wing
conservative groups took to the streets and shut people down
and burned businesses and government buildings and through fireworks at
police officers and yeah, remember right, it didn't happen. So,

(46:02):
the officials briefing reporters on the US election security said
foreign actors could consider physical threats and violence and are
highly likely to conduct disinformation operations to create uncertainty and
undermind the election process. According to the official from the
Office of the Director of National Intelligence quote, foreign actors,

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particularly Russia, Iran, and China, remain intent on fanning divisive
narratives to divide America and undermine America's confidence in the
US democratic system. These activities are consistent with what these
actors perceive to be in their interest, even as their
tactics continue to evolve. They said. These influence actors, particularly
from Russia, Iran, and China, have learned from prior US

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elections and are now to Betty Redder to exploit the
opportunities to stir the pot of unrest so they could
draw on the same type of tools they've been using
in pre election period information cyber operations. They may also
consider physical threats and violence, accord to the od and
I official, if some foreign actors have the capacity to

(47:11):
stoke protests and take violent actions during this post election period,
in particular, Iran and Russia are probably willing to at
least consider tactics that would contribute to such violence, describes
a declassified memorandum this release. After the briefing by the
National Intelligence Council, they warned that foreign optor to operatives

(47:32):
most certainly will amplify false post vote claims of election irregularities.
May also use cyber attacks and sbiis to disrupt our
altered news and public government websites to promote confusion about
the results and spread different information about the ballot counting process,

(47:54):
especially in races too close to call, accord to the NIC. Well, now,
why do you think I thought about Russia Russia Russia
collusion when it came to the very real and accurate,
known to the behind the scenes officials to be real
Hunter Biden laptop, blame Russia, we went after Trump. What

(48:15):
do they do? They blamed Russia. They've blamed Russia. The
Democratic Party bought and paid for the Steele dossier, which implicated,
you know, Donald Trump and all kinds of things that
he had nothing to do with, Russian interference, Russian collusion,
the evil boogeyman that the Democrats have glombed onto and
labeled Russia. So, now, if this happens, if there is

(48:38):
unrest of any form after the election, if people run
them up and start talking about the integrity the election,
the votes being tampered with, which I know has happened
on the conservative side of the legend, I imagine if
Donald Trump were to prevail the election, maybe an overwhelming victory.
Can't you hear the cries of election interference? Can't you
hear the cries of this vote was wrong. Can't you

(48:59):
hear the screams and the shouts that this had to
be fixed, The fix was in. Is that Russia? Is
that Iran? Is that China? Or is it us? Perhaps
influence on social media by one of these foreign actors
who do enjoy the division that has been sewed over

(49:19):
the past well ten years. I'm breaking our country up.
They're forcing us to hate each other. How many of
you out there have a relative you don't talk to
anymore because of politics. Bloodline doesn't matter. It's all about
who you voted for or didn't. It's all about your
policy or your position on one issue or another. That's division.

(49:40):
But will it truly be foreign actors or it will
be maybe the pot being stirred and the anger and
potentially violence be brought about from within and actors within,
most notably those never Trumper folks out there that think
he is going to be the end of the world.
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Six thirty here fifty five KR see the station, And
a very happy Wednesday to you. My friend Laura down
in Florida dealing with the aftermath of the hurricane on
my heels of my comment about electric vehicles, she said,
lots of fires, homes, businesses burned down during the hurricanes
and afterwards from electric cars and bikes. Grab that to
the equation too. They do blow up when they get wet. Crazy, crazy,

(54:20):
stupid anyway, not crazy or stupid. Welcome back to the
fifty five Carcy Morning Show from Restore Liberty dot Us.
George Broughtaman. It's great to have you back on the program. George.

Speaker 10 (54:29):
Thanks Brian. Not crazy or stupid. I have to use
that as my tagline. There you go, feel free, have
at it.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
I think people will immediately draw conclusions about who you're
contrasting yourself with the easy thing to do in this
credit race. How are you feeling about the race as
we fast approach November? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (54:50):
I think the votes are going to be overwhelmingly for Trump.
The votes counted is a different question, and I can't
believe we're talking about it like this In the United
States of America.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
But clearly there's a lot of Mickey mouse stuff going
along here well, and that feeds into that comment man,
I just made from our lords and masters and government
talking about the concern that China and Russia will be
stirring the pot of division in our country by pointing
to some of the irregularities you're alluding to right now.

Speaker 10 (55:25):
Right But I mean, at this point, I think it's
going to be overwhelming the things that are going on.
And one of the topics I'm going to talk about
tonight on the podcast is don't think of it as
voting for Trump. You're not voting for Trump. You're voting
for a dream team of advisors. You got Viake Brahmaswami,
you got RFK Junior, Chelsea Garrett, Elon Musk for crying

(55:49):
out loud. I mean, you don't have to think about
this as just you know, Kamala versus Donald. This is
bigger than that, a lot bigger than that, It really is.
I think that's an important point people need to get passed.
You know, I don't like Donald's Twitter files or you know,
how he talks or something, but that's not what you're
voting for.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Well, that addresses the point that I made the other
day about my friend who has caught up in the
evil Orange man narrative, but he knows nothing at all
about policy. I mean, I love this guy to death,
one of my best friends in the world, but he's
never paid much attention to politics. But he says, I
can't vote for Trump. And I said why, and he said, well,
you know, he's just Trump, He's that, you know, basically

(56:30):
evil Orange man. He was like, right, went we went
through policy after policy, and he was with me on
every single one of the policies I mentioned now. Most notably,
he has two daughters, and he hates the idea of
men participating against sports against women, and he hates the
whole gender pronoun thing. He finds that absolutely ridiculous, basically
against the whole woke agenda. He believes in merits, not equity.

(56:53):
So he's solid on all these you know, conservative leaning issues.
Altho they shouldn't have anything to do with politics, be
quite candid with you, but there they are on full display.
With Trump's opposition, Harris embracing and supporting those across the board.
I'm like, do you have any single thing you hate?
Donald Trump? On or dislike him or disagree with him

(57:13):
on in terms of policy, and he's like, no, I said,
so you're caught up in the narrative evil Orange man.
So you're not You're gonna vote against your best interest
just because it's not Donald Trump.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
Yeah, it just makes no sense. Restore Liberty dot usise.
We got a couple of things going on, So yesterday
I had created a website to help the people out
that are working down at the polls.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
If you know, she is just a.

Speaker 10 (57:43):
Warrior there, and if you are anybody out there has
some time on their hands, we could use some help
down at the early voting center in Hamilton County, you know,
to sit there and hand out sample ballace and just
help get the word at out over the noise in
the background.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's going on down at the BOE.

Speaker 10 (58:01):
But stop by, look for Aina and volunteer to you know,
hold a Orlando Sanza sign or something like that down there.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
We could really use the help.

Speaker 10 (58:09):
Our website that we created for them was hacked last night,
so I've been willing the night in the morning working
on restoring that. But we've got it back online. But
that's just how bad things are getting they're they're attacking
just you know, campaign websites again.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh my god. Well, yeah, you can't play by the rules,
you'd cheat, huh right.

Speaker 10 (58:34):
The other thing, we're doing something we've never done before
tonight at the farm. So if you've always wanted to
come by and see what we do in our meetings tonight,
we'll give you ten dollars towards your dinner. Marian's for
Prosperity is going to be there and they're offering volunteers
ten dollars to help feed them. So you can come
at the doors open at five point thirty. Get there,

(58:57):
we'll give you a ticket to help pay for your day,
and listen to the podcast with Joe. We'll be taking
questions live during the podcast.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
So, got something you want to.

Speaker 10 (59:07):
Hear about, stop by, and then when the meeting starts
at seven, we're gonna be working on addressing our slate
cards going after get out the vote for Orlando Sanza
and the other candidate's Bernie Marino.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
We will help you get on your.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
Phone a walking list so that as you're you know,
getting your ten thousand steps in, you can knock on
your neighbor's door, say hi and offer to you know,
help give them some information on voting. So it's going
to be a unique one. This is all about volunteering tonight.
We'll have some of the candidates there, but for the
most part, it's all about, you know, let's get out.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
The vote, all right. In terms of the podcast, is
there is it your you doing the podcast or store
a littlity dot us or you have a special guest
that's going to be dominating. What's what's the nature of
the podcast tonight?

Speaker 10 (59:52):
It's just me So I wanted to talk a little
bit about what's really going on with issue one. I
know you've covered that a few times, but give some
people some information and get it out there in the
podcast form so that you know what's going on really
with issue one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:00:07):
Then we're going to be talking about, like I said,
you know, what is it that you're voting for. It's
not Donald Trump, it's it's policies, it's it's his you know,
advisors and what they're going to try and do. And
then the third topic is just a matter of you know,
what's going to happen after the election. Where are we
going with our you know, our movement afterwards? What is
it that we need to concentrate on. And I think

(01:00:28):
I told you last week, I'm I'm thinking we're going
to go really big on the make.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
American healthy again.

Speaker 10 (01:00:34):
There's so much going on there that I think could
use some some ground swell of grassroots to help push
that agenda against you know, the farm industry, the farmer industry,
and you know everything that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Making us unhealthy right now. Well, and that's where K
kind of what's going on there, and that's where RFK
Junior comes in as a member of the cabinet, presumably
under the Trump administration. That's that's his uh, that's his
wheelhouse right there.

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
Right especially with kids and his his thing, which is
I mean, I just can't when you start to dig
into what's happening with the food pyramid and why it
is what it is and the damage it's doing. I
think RFK is just drilled in on that, and that's
you know, if you're looking for the future of the country,
getting the kids healthy again has got to be number one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
No no question about it. And the numbers of folks
in this country who are obese is just it's just balloon.
It's as if a disease has washed over the entire country,
just to mean within my lifetime. Certainly, you look back
at photographs from you know, the seventies when I was
a kid, I was the fat kid in the neighborhood.
They called me ten Ton Thomas. That's right. I'm talking

(01:01:42):
to you, Steve and Paul and the other guys in
the neighborhood. You know, I suffered through that. You know,
I going through puberty and I joined Marlins, and I
lost all the weight, and you know, I became a regular,
normal looking kid. But you know, by today's standards, nobody
even would have looked at me sideways. You know, it's
what is it? You know, if food's gotten so expensive,
how is it that we're we're just consuming as many

(01:02:04):
calories or is it something more nefarious like the gobs
and gobs of sugar that they put in literally everything
that you buy at the groceries. It's actually worse.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
High fructose is infinitely worse than sugar because it can
only be digested by your liver.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
So now that's why you've got cirrhosis of the liver.

Speaker 10 (01:02:22):
And kids who have never touched alcohol, you have fructose
is literally cooking their liver.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Wow, And you'd think that the FDA might say something
about that, wouldn't you, George. You know, just maybe you
got to look at where their funding is coming from. Oh,
you mean there's lobbying and politics at stake here, and
even though America's health is at risk and in jeopardy, hmmm, yep. Shocked.

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
But even worse is it's the same it's the same actors.
It's Philip Morris and R. J. Reynolds. It wasn't betraying
people that gave us cigarettes. Oh, they and the sugar
are the reutas industry now. They when the Surgeon General
put out the warning that you had to have on
the side of your cigarettes, the first thing they did

(01:03:07):
after that was they bought up all the food companies.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
In the business.

Speaker 10 (01:03:13):
It's a rabbit hole once you start down and you
start to see the connections. My wife, who is apolitical,
at this point, when we started, you know, digging into
the background, it's like the whole food industry is infinitely
worse than politics.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
The parallels are unbelievable. Well, they just they go out
into the world and they look for things that are
addictive and then they invest in them because well, there's
a built in market for things that people get addicted to.
And we're all addicted to eating, I suppose, And of
course yep, it's that that high fruit. Does corn serve
fuels that addiction? Anyhow, well, yeah, marketing does help with

(01:03:51):
that too. I was talking to my wife the other day.
There was a there was a commercial one for Arby's
during the football game we were watching, and I said,
you know, look at that sandwich. I said, I know
what Arby's taste like. I'm not going to an Arby's,
but look, doesn't it make you hungry. They've they've presented
it so well that you know, maybe there's a ripple effect. Okay,
so they've gotten me hungry through marketing, and I'm gonna

(01:04:11):
go out and get a giant sandwich that I didn't
really need at nine pm because Arby's made me feel hungry.
So I went over to a different fast food place
and loaded up and strapped on the feedback. Anyway, talk
about it tonight. What time do the door's open? What
times the podcasts start? George? So the doors open at
five thirty.

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
It's at the farm, which is two thirty nine Anderson
Ferry over in Dull High Any information you need. It's
at Restore Liberty dot Us. So the doors open at
five thirty. We'll start serving dinner and helping you pay
for it around six, and then the podcast starts around
six fifteen and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
The meeting begins at seven.

Speaker 10 (01:04:48):
So it sounds like a pack schedule, but it's actually
pretty fun, pretty loose. Been getting a fair sized crowd,
so we're hoping for to, you know, bust the doors
out tonight so we can get some get some information
in out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
The vote farm has good chicken from all i've heard.
West Side Institution be there tonight and see George and
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And of course, the podcast is produced by production extraordinaire
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doing one, he's the man to call it. George Brnman,
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calling this morning and a halfy Wednesday to you.

Speaker 13 (01:07:42):
Hi ran real quick about to let him reserves in Arkansas.
When you're reading the article, I was waiting for the butt.
You know, like it, but it's under a natural preserve
or it's home of a purple spotted lizard or something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Oh yeah, that's why I should you have a point about.

Speaker 13 (01:07:57):
The EPA, so they'll never let us get to it anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
No, I mean that's the point. We are our own
worst enemy. If it's good for America, it's good for
America's economy, it's good for our independence, then of course
there's a certain faction in politics that doesn't want us
to have it. Democrats collectively generally speaking, or at least
some giant left wing faction of the Democrat Party who
does not like American success. It ruins globalism. Oh my god,

(01:08:21):
you mean we're not going to have to buy minerals
from somebody like China? Right, we won't. Well, okay, we
can't have any of that. Someone file a lawsuit and
prevented from happening. We won't be drilling there either. Appreciate that, Bill,
Welcome to the program. Happy Wednesday to you, sir. Hey,
good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
And I just got a couple comments thing and it
just big dround me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Craze on here.

Speaker 14 (01:08:43):
Okay, women got to vote in the twenties. Okay, now
look where hit as God is. They said, well, we
have a right to our you have a right to
your body. Yes, okay, it changes everything when you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Have a baby.

Speaker 14 (01:08:59):
Now you don't have Now they want to have the
right to vote to murder a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Abortion is murder.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
We just got to call it what it is.

Speaker 14 (01:09:07):
It's a woman. Do you had a right to her body? Yes,
but you don't have a right to murder. There's no
great area.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Have a good day. You do the same. I just
have to acknowledge Bill that there are people, a lot
of people in the world that don't agree with you.
Look at the state of Ohio. We had a bout
initiative that was passed. It's enshrined in the constitution now
that Yeah, women do have the right to an abortion.
The pole people in America, it always comes out like
close to sixty percent of Americans believe that there should

(01:09:36):
be at least some right to an abortion that flies
in the face of your definitive belief that it is murder.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying there's a
whole bunch of people in a representative republic in which
we live that will vote in favor of allowing that
procedure to happen. So I'm just stating, like it is.

(01:09:56):
I had the opportunity in Ohio to maybe disagree with
that came out on the other side of the ledger.
They don't believe the majority of Americans don't agree with you.
You poll people, even within the Catholic community, you see
a sizeable percentage of Catholics, in the face of Catholic
doctrine and dogma, the rules of the church, they still

(01:10:17):
believe in the right to abortion on some level. So
I'm just I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings,
but I'm not saying anything out loud that all the
polling and information and all the votes in various states
haven't borne out. It bothered me when Kamala Harris said
that your religion gets trumped no pun intended by that.

(01:10:43):
I'll say, so called right to control over your body.
So the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which
does not have any statement to the effect that women
have the right to have an abortion, does say that
you have the right to the free exercise of religion.
And there's Kamala Harris on record just saying, I believe
it was yesterday that No, I don't think we should
be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom

(01:11:05):
to make decisions about our own body in the context
of a question concerning religious exemptions. And there are Catholic
hospitals out there, there are other religious institutions. There are
many well, people of faith who are in the medical profession,
lack doctors who don't want to be told what to do.

(01:11:27):
Listen that guy out west. It doesn't have to bake
a birthday cake for the transvestite couple. Should a doctor
have to perform an abortion if he or she does
not believe in it and believes, like you believe, that
it is in fact murder. Should we force a doctor
to engage in a practice of something that he or
she fundamentally believes is murder. I'll are on the side

(01:11:51):
of allowing that physician to enjoy the free exercise of
their religion. Six fifty six, fifty five kc DE Talk
Station Big Picture with Jack Avid and black men for
Trump the subject. He'll be up next. I hope you
can stick around.

Speaker 11 (01:12:07):
The latest on the election minutes away at the top
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Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Fifty five KRCS the talk station seven oh six did
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Wednesday to you. I made always special because judgent Anda
Polatana joins a program, but made extra special because at
this time we get the Big Picture with Jack Atherton, author, anchorman, lawyer, historian,
racin tour. Welcome back, Jack Athan. It's always a pleasure
to have you on the program.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
Morning Powell. I hope you and everybody listening as well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I'm doing okay. I'm still not coughing. I'm telling you.
Is someone called in yesterday. This is hilarious. Jack. Not
to take you down a wrong turn here, because I
know you want to talk about black men for Trump. Someone.
We had a couple of folks calling with sold old
world cures for colds and coughs, and one woman said,
an old Irish cure you wrap a wet cloth around

(01:13:18):
your throat two inches thick, and then you wrap that
with a dry one to hold it in place, and
then you rub vixed vapor rub on your check and
that chat and that's supposed to keep you from coughing. Well,
my wife did not sleep a wink, not last night,
but the night before. And that's how I learned about
this home remedy. She actually tried it last night. You know,
she didn't cough.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
We've got another old world remedy for you. A lot
of your friends are saying prayers, so hang in there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Prayers always help, so Eddie. Jack added in, it was
interesting timing your topic black men for Trump. I was
just reading an editorial by Jason Riley and the Inquirer
headline wire Democrats losing black voters. So wonderful timing on that,
So rip Jack Atherton.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Well, yeah, let's talk about black men and this election cycle. Brian.
It is politically correct even for dull, wonderbred white guys
like us to talk about black men, because, if the
polls are correct, a substantial number of black men want
to be treated like men, like Americans, like everybody else,

(01:14:26):
instead of like Democrat dependents. Kamala Harris is desperately trying
to buy black men off again, as Democrats have for
sixty years. This time they were offering cash loans quote
unquote that like magic, don't have to be paid back.
Those were originally for black people only, until somebody told

(01:14:48):
that great lawyer Kamala Harris that offering money only to
people white or black on the basis of race is unconstitutional.
So now she's offering everybody cash we don't have, and
that leads to even more killer inflation. Harris also wants
to study reparations, a racial payoff so impractical that even

(01:15:11):
Gavin Newsom shot down reparations in California. Harris wants to
offer black voters money to grow marijuana. This from the
woman who is a prosecutor made her reputation locking up
black marijuana users and growers. But my fIF favorite ploy,
Brian has been the Harris commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Have you seen? This?

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Shows black women, most of whom were voting for Kamala
on a game show, refusing to date a black man
who says voting is not his thing. Look ideal, but
he disputes the injustice, the damnable injustice that was done
to black people in America. But more than six hundred

(01:15:54):
thousand Americans died during the Civil War to atone for
America's original sin of slavery, a sin that the Democratic
Party in eighteen sixty one fought to uphold in a
century that followed. After Republicans passed the Civil War Amendments
to the Constitution that gave people of all races equal

(01:16:17):
rights under the law, Democrats spearheaded Jim Crow and the
sinful idea of separate but equal. Throughout the nineteen fifties
and sixties, Republicans backed civil rights laws in greater percentages
than Democrats. For instance, the pivotal nineteen sixty four Act

(01:16:37):
that ended segregation in public places and made employment discrimination illegal.
That law was passed by sixty percent of Democrats and
seventy eight percent of Republicans. But then Democrats realized they
could buy black votes not by finally treating them as equals,

(01:16:58):
but through government handouts, payoffs, welfare, welfare that destroyed countless
black families and emasculated black men because to qualify for
aid to dependent families, young mothers had to make sure
the infamous requirement that we've talked about before, Brian, that

(01:17:18):
there was no man in the house well. When I
left law and went to journalism school, a black classmate
by no means conservative, wrote her master's thesis about the
effects of Democrat welfare programs on black families. She was
appalled to find, even as early as the nineteen eighties,

(01:17:41):
generation after generation trapped in poverty, not to mention failing
schools and neighborhoods riddled with crime. But worst of all,
many not by any means all, but millions of welfare
dependent children grew up without fathers. While single mothers often

(01:18:01):
do a splendid job on their own, children, especially boys
without fathers, can face crushing struggles. They look elsewhere for
male role models and often find them in the worst places,
And fathers who were incentivized by Democrats not to live
with their children. Those fathers, they have no purpose in life.

(01:18:25):
My first job in high school as a hotel bellhop,
introduced me to the head bell hop, a brilliant, sensitive
black man. We both loved jazz and became friends. One
night in his room, listening to Miles Davis, my boss
confessed he had no contact with his children. He was

(01:18:46):
a Shane Brian I wrote about this, you may remember
in a novel call the summer we skipped Woodstock. It's
on Amazon with my other books. This historic year, for
the first time, a substantial, prime, perhaps a decisive number
of black men are voting for a man who treats
them not as black men, but as Americans, a man

(01:19:09):
I am convinced does not have a racist bone in
his body. Sometimes Donald Trump sounds like a bonehead. But
he is brilliant, too accomplished, valiant, patriotic, full of good policies.
He can make fries, and he is deeply committed to
offering all Americans, not cash, not weed, not dates, but

(01:19:31):
equal opportunity, which in the entire history of the world
has been the unique essence of the United States of America.
So finally, let's lift up black Republicans, from doctor Ben
Carson to Senator Tim Scott, Congressman Byron Donald's, so many others,
including our own Christopher Smitherman, great patriots, great Republicans, great

(01:19:57):
men who were voting for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Amen to that, And you know, it's an interesting observation.
I pivot over to Riley's observation. He was speaking with
someone who has worked in the black community for decades,
a guy named Robert Woodson, senior who's an expert on
the social policies and been interacting with the black community,
talking about Listen, you know, Democrats have been running these

(01:20:23):
big cities for sixty years and black people see the results,
and you know, he fast forward, he said, you know,
and as far as Obama suggesting that black men refuse
to support a black woman because she's a woman, he said,
come on, man, you know, any number of black women
have been elected as mayor in big cities with huge
black populations Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Washington, So it's

(01:20:45):
not the female component that keeps them from getting elected.
And then he pivots over to this, which I think
you'll get you'll find interesting, said ironically, part of Harris's
problems maybe the man going to bad for her. Mister
Obama's two presidential terms are not so distant and demonstrated,
among other things, that addressing the challenges that many Black
Americans still face requires more than simply putting a black

(01:21:08):
person in the Oval office and hoping for the best
Black Americans. Black Americans in general fared better economically under
Trump than they did under Obama. I mean, you can
even contrast the Obama administration of the Trump administration to
realize you were in a much better place after Trump
and then we of course have the disaster that's been
the Biden almost four years now. So you know, we're

(01:21:30):
not dumb out here in the world. And it's an
insult to black men to suggest that it's just comma
of being a woman is the reason you not want
to vote for her? Are you better off now? Are
you better off four years ago? And everybody can fully
come to grips with that very easily.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
We're going to talk about Barack Obama in one of
these weeks after the election. There's too much to do
right now, especially his foreign policy. The reason that we
have the mess that we do now in the Middle
East and elsewhere in the world is because of Barack Obama.
And by the way, as you mentioned, we have black
women running Washington, DC, Chicago, lots of other cities right now.

(01:22:06):
Robert Woodson is a great man. I would suggest everybody
read that Jason Riley column. Brian, It's not just black men.
Democrats are the party of giveaways for everybody. They can
bribe student loan forgiveness, providing free contraceptives and abortions, demanding them,
even from Catholic hospitals and charities, mandates and subsidies for

(01:22:28):
electric vehicles that benefit China and Democrat donors and can't
even be charged. And now Harris is vowing to raise
the federal minimum wage again.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Sounds great.

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
It's going to lead to more automation, more jobs shipped overseas,
more hiring of illegal immigrants under the table, all of
which hurt black men disproportionately. Democrats are the party of
short term payoffs to cronies. Trump Republicans, not Rhinos Cheney,

(01:23:01):
but Trump constitutional populists, the GOP. That's the party a
free market, merit based opportunity for all Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Jack Adiden always wonderfully spoken. Yeah, your podcast, Joe Strekker,
what is your podcast? People can find that wherever they
find their podcast. Of course, it's the big picture with
Jack Avidin. I appreciate you coming to the program and
sharing your wisdom with my listeners. Jack, it's always a
real delight to have you on the show, and I'll
look forward to doing it again and we'll be looking
for your podcast out there. I guess the iHeartMedia probably

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carries those as well.

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
Brian may I mentioned adding my voice to yours half
an hour ago. That's the Big Picture with Jack Afrewton
includes interviews with congressional candidate Orlando Sanza. He's having that
rally that you and George Brunheman discussed that's tonight at
the farm in Del High. We've got to elect Orlando.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
He's great.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
I've got Joe Dieters, Dan Reagan, Old many others. So yes,
please listen.

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Heany, Good morning, Brian. How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
I'm doing pretty well all things considered. Thank you very much.
Hope you can say the same.

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
I'd like to circle back speck segment you did yesterday
with Wreitbart and the story that you told about the
discussion you had about voting with a friend of yours.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, the guy who yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
I even mentioned earlier today he dear dear friend of mine,
never been political much, but won't vote for Trump because
the whole evil orange Man syndrome is crept into his
head because he only pays very peripheral attention and the
only messages he's gotten are evil orange Man Trump er go.

(01:27:31):
He said he couldn't vote for Trump, so he's got
to vote for someone who, after Alankey conversation on issues,
turns out to be the polar opposite of someone he
should actually vote for. He's got Trump derangement syndrome so
much so that he would vote against his own best interest.
As we walked through real issues, he couldn't come up
with a single thing policy wise that he was in
favor of Harris for or a single thing policy wise

(01:27:54):
that he had against Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
Well, I've got another argument for you with him for
the case for Trump, and it's not a policy issue.
I think this is one that his team is not
doing a good job of getting the message out to
people because I think it challenges this Orange man bad

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the fascist dictator, and that is you know, the character
of a person is measured by the people they surround
themselves with. And Trump has publicly stated that Tulca Gabbert
and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Are going to be the

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co leaders of his transition team. They are going to
help choose the people that will be around Trump in
his administration and help lead the country. That does not
sound like the actions of a fascist dictator to pick
people who are from the other party to be part

(01:29:00):
of the team to lead the country.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
I couldn't agree with you more. But then again, when
you mentioned the claims that Trump is a fascist dictator
or wants to be, I have to point out that
again the definition of fascism, you know, it's the government
telling you how to run your business and your life.
Who does that more than the Democrats? Nobody that's what
they are. Dictatorial control without the sort of you know,

(01:29:28):
popular demonized figurehead whose picture happens to be hanging literally everywhere.
See every dictator that you've a nation, that you've ever
come across, Sadamus saying his statues were up literally everywhere,
style and Mussolini pictures and statues up everywhere. Hitler his
picture literally everywhere. Oh and then there was Obama. Hey,
his picture literally everywhere you turned. You know, that's sort

(01:29:51):
of a fascist thing. We have that appealing personality coupled
with yes, control over the means of production, that's your business,
and who's telling you how to run it, the federal
government under Democrats. So anytime someone mentions the word fascism,
because these left wingers love to call Donald Trump a
would be fascist or an outright fascist, they haven't even

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Seven thirty if you about KIRCV talk station. Happy Wednesday.
We're in here from the highest School of Communications, Hillary
Schulman after the top of the air news study shows
a predicting vote choice depends on the wording of ballot language.
For more low information voters. The crazier the wording, the
more difficult it is, the less likely it is to pass.

(01:32:10):
I have a feeling issue. One will come up here
at eight h five Judgment Polatano in one hour. In
the meantime, I am police. Welcome to the fifty five
KRC Morning Show. Joseph Ashbrook. He's president of the Cincinna
Lawyer's Chapter of the Federalist Society, which promotes the principles
that the state exists to preserve freedom, separation of government,
powers of central art, Constitution, and is the province and

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duty the judiciary to say what the law is, not
what it should be. Amen Ashbrook, the editor in chief
of the Virginia Law Review, currently practices of the law
firm Ashbrook, Burn and kresgy llc which is a boutique
firm seeking the level of the playing field for those
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(01:32:53):
and he engages in public interest litigation. He is going
to be doing an ampower You seminar which has taking place.
What is that tom Tomorrow night Thursday, beginning at seven pm.
You can log in online right there or show up
in person at two twenty five North and Boulevard. Welcome
to the program. It's a pleasure to have you on
this morning. Joseph Athbro Ashbrook, Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
I was a remember the Federal Society when I was
in law school. I believe in the principles of the
Federalist Society. I believe in the perception of what the
court's role is again to say what the law is,
interpret whatever is in front of them. Within the confines
of what has been passed into law, not rewrite the
law to the extent it's been found to be unconstitutional,

(01:33:36):
but then send it back to Congress where it should
be fixed, or to your legislative branch where it should
be fixed. Judicial activists just take it upon themselves to
write whatever the hell they want. Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 15 (01:33:49):
It goes back, Brian to one of our first principles
of the country. It's easy to overlook, and it's the
first three words of the Constitution. We the people, the
first principle being allultimately the people decide and not unelected
judges who make the decisions that govern the people's lives.
So it's them from that originally stems from that first
principle that governs everything we do, or should govern everything

(01:34:12):
we do as a country.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Well, and you know Roe v. Wade obviously making it
big in the news since the Dobb's decision. But the
Dobb's decision pointed out what the folks in Roe v.
Wade should have known, which is the federal Constitution doesn't
address the issue. It is an issue that is reserved
to the states. The federal government has limited enumerated powers
and the tenth Amendment says those not specifically covered by

(01:34:34):
the Constitution belong to the state. It's not a difficult
concept to understand, is it.

Speaker 15 (01:34:41):
No, You're on a hundred percent right And fundamentally, you know,
maybe in some level our politics are too sophisticated for
our own good today. So there's a lot of dueling
narratives that are out there and the never ending grinsmanship
of conquest. But fundamentally, where we are right now from

(01:35:02):
what consistent with what you just said, is we're on
a path of real progress.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
It's kind of amazing America.

Speaker 15 (01:35:08):
If you're an American out there listening, it's pretty darn
cool being an American. And the scope of human history,
the formation of our government in our country is.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
The exception, not the rule.

Speaker 15 (01:35:20):
And what the founders did was change the course of
human history for people in other countries all over the world,
and yet still in our country it's really hard, has
been really hard to live up to our founding principle that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
The people decide.

Speaker 15 (01:35:36):
And so if you look at a case like Dobs,
I think dob stands for the proposition the way I
do it. Dob stands for the proposition that the Court
recognized that the Court was also bound by the Constitution.
The Constitution created the court. So how can the Court
then look to the Constitution and say, today you are

(01:35:57):
this or today you are that. So Dobbs to me,
is the Court being faithful to its role, which is
a form of judicial humility, and recognizing our institution does
not have the power to write the law. The people
have the power to write the law, and so Roe v.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Wade needs to be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Overturned well, And of course that leaves the decision making
to the states. And we all know what the outcome
of the arious states who brought this up has been.
Some states it's gone one way and some the other.
And that's the will of the people. Let's talk with
something specific. We have laws that are written, but we
have a careless and lazy legislative branch who gives all

(01:36:37):
the rulemaking and regulation writing power to unnamed, unelected individuals
behind the scenes. Now, we've had some really wonderful developments
out of the Supreme Court, which I presume you'd be
talking about in your seminar tomorrow night. But the West
Virginia versus EPA case always comes to mind with me,
because listen, you know, you can't go too far afield.
It has to be specifically identified whatever you're regulating, and

(01:37:00):
know a tablespoon of water on private property is not navigable,
nor was it ever intended to be deemed navigable. And
that you have regulators behind the scenes saying, oh no, no,
it is because water ultimately flows downhill and ends up
in a navigable waterway. That's an abuse of the regulatory power.
And finally Supreme Court spanked them down. But that's just
one of many cases lately where they've done just that.

Speaker 15 (01:37:24):
Yeah, Brian, you're exactly right. One of the cases we're
going to talk about tomorrow night a recent decision Low
or Bright. Without getting over the technical but the court
struck down a doctrine called Chevron difference.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Yes, and it relates to the.

Speaker 15 (01:37:38):
Exact It relates to the exact species of issues that
you're talking about, and it basically means that the courts
are no longer going to defer to an agency's interpretation
of its own. So as Congress, the agency creates a
rule that said, in this particular case, it was fishermen

(01:37:58):
who the agency care a rule that said commercial fishermen
had to pay approximately eight hundred the costs about eight
hundred bucks a day for an environmental monitor on their
fishing expeditions, and they challenged that, and the agency to
challenge that the agency didn't have authority to force that
on them, and then the agency says, well, yes, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
So then the.

Speaker 15 (01:38:21):
Question becomes, under the statute authorizing the agency, did the
agency actually have that authority? The Chevron deference doctrine told
courts to defer to the interpretation of the agency, And
so when the court struck that down, what that's going
to do is, it's fundamentally in a as a practical matter,

(01:38:42):
it's going to require if Congress, if the federal government
wants to exercise power over people's private rights, then Congress
is going to have to be clear about it, because
the agencies are not going to be able to just
quote interpret their way into the exercise of power. And

(01:39:03):
so then if Congress is clear about it, whether it
happens or not, then the people can choose to vote
the people who wrote the law in or out of office.
So that back to the first principle, who decide the
people decide. It forces the government to run in such
a way that the people are ultimately deciding because they're
voting the decision makers in that office.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Well, Joseph Ashbrook, who is going to be doing the
seminar tomorrow night and talking about all these issues, it
could be that the control seeking to be exercised over
the people in and of itself may be unconstitutional. And
you can't make something constitutional really because you're silent on
the matter and leading it up to a regulatory agency.
You might be able to challenge the actual law itself
on its face for intruding into our personal rights and liberties.

Speaker 15 (01:39:49):
Yeah, one hundred percent. One hundred percent. In the court
you mentioned the term judicial activism. I think one of
the interesting intellectual developments that's going on right now in
law is the idea of using the terms and what
they mean. So one of the ways the current Supreme
Court is getting attacked by folks on the left is

(01:40:09):
by saying they're an activist court and striking down Gods
is an activist decision, But it's not, And that misunderstands
the idea of activism when court a court is doing
its role. If to your point, there's a private right
in another constitution of provision that the law itself is unconstitutional.
If a court is faced with the case of controversy

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where that's presented and the court does not strike down
the law.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
Then that is activism.

Speaker 15 (01:40:37):
If the court it's not just the exercise of power,
not exercising the power, it's the court doing its proper role,
which in our government is enforcing the written law, the
limits of the law, and protecting protecting individual rights from
that and keeping the government itself within its limited swim length.
And that's structural, that structural, dynamic text liberty and freedom

(01:41:01):
for all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Just fastbook. We're speaking tomorrow night. Empower you America dot org.
You log in from home or show a two twenty
five North on Boulevard. He is a president of since
he Lawyer's chapter of the Federalist Society. Real quick here
before we part company this morning, Joseph, and this is
gonna be of just a fascinating seminar. Any upcoming Supreme
Court cases that you want to mention before we part company.

Speaker 15 (01:41:23):
I think that everyone should nothing in particular other than
we live in consequential times that there's a lot going on,
and there's such an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Go out, vote, vote, vote, vote.

Speaker 15 (01:41:34):
Vote who we choose to be our leaders has such
consequence to it, and we have a real opportunity now
to continue the project that the founder started, which is
the people Decide. We look forward to everybody that comes out. Brian,
thanks for doing what you do and appreciate you having
the honest one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Joseph Fastbook, it has been a distinct pleasure having you
on the program, and everybody to be tuning in tomorrow
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don't judge Joe, and we don't make fun of that.
That's why I'm not making fun of it. Sort of
kind of. Anyway, I mentioned fascism earlier, as I had
multiple times over the years, definitionally speaking, No, Donald Trump's
not a fascist. Of course. He wants to expand energy
to literally every corner.

Speaker 9 (01:45:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
Drill, Baby, drill his mantra. He wants folks to be
free of the ridiculous, overburdensome regulatory environment. We talked about
a little bit there with that West Virginia versus EPA
Supreme Court case with my last guest, Joseph Ashbrook, but
get a load of this.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Remember you're working today and they're going to take taxes
out of your work. It's your labor. I always like
to express taxation as a form of slavery, because you
are forced to pay taxes ergo. Your labor is forced
up to a certain extent, after which you know the
money is yours. Theoretic, so your money goes to Washington

(01:46:03):
and they make you engage in activities he wouldn't engage in,
like pursuing the Green New Deal. An agenda and Judge
Clock wrote an interesting opinion piece Biden's missing electric vehicle
charges and illustrates the stupidity and the well I would argue,
it seems almost criminal that what they have taken your
money and forced us to do by way of again

(01:46:25):
the Green New Deal is for the purposes I'm gaining
votes and propping up their own best interest, which maybe
not working for him this year, unions are largely shifting
over to Trump because the economy was so much better.
But what do we got here? White House claims that
President Biden's leadership and record federal investment have caused a
boom and charging stations for electric vehicles, yet overwrought regulations

(01:46:47):
and lavish handouts the favored groups have turned the EV
charger program into another ineffective part of Biden's equity and
social services agenda. Oh there's that word again. In twenty
twenty one of the most so called bipartisan infrastructure law,
Congress pay provided five billion dollars over five years to
fund national network of EV charging points. Almost three years later,

(01:47:08):
sixty nine have been created, fewer than the rest of
the EV sector produces every single day. There've been widespread
complaints about what one Washington Post article calls the program's
painfully slow rollout. Delays are doing part to regulations encouraging unionization,
as well as the administration's goal that at least forty
percent of clean energy investment benefits so called disadvantaged communities,

(01:47:32):
the areas that need EV chargers. The Least Inflation Reduction
Act provided tax credits for EV charges of up to
thirty percent of the cost, maxed out at one hundred
thousand dollars per quote item of property, but last month,
the IRS announced that every individual charging board qualifies as
an item one hundred grand each. To receive the full

(01:47:52):
Somebody's subsidies, companies must abide by prevailing wage and apprenticeship standards.
The irs as companies can avoid penalties for violating these
standards if they signed to project labor agreements, which favor
union workers and include quote monitoring and administration by union officials.
Close quote that's in there. Soon mandates will apply even

(01:48:15):
to charging stations that don't receive government funding. Last month,
the government proposed new accessibility standards for EV charging stations,
requiring special communications features and lighter cables. The government estimates
the regulation could cost a billion dollars over the next
seven years. That's a regulation came from the back room.

(01:48:36):
This year's BIDE administration anational to the one point three
billion in grants for alternative fuel stations, but the criteria
focus on everything except the stations themselves. Fascism Grand applicants
are evaluated on whether they use project labor agreements, whether
they use a climate and economic justice screening tool, and
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on people of color for hiring. See the micromanagement of
what should be private business. Fascism Administration previously EXEMPTV chargers
for some of the infrastructure bills by American requirements, but
now as of this month, newly installed federally funded charges
must be made domestically, As the administration says, buy American
rules will ensure that the clean energy transition is powered

(01:49:22):
by American manufacturing and good paying union jobs, Union jobs.
Biden administration has turned infrastructure spending into a branch of
social services, focusing on support for favored groups more than
developing the infrastructure itself. The result a growing and justifiable
cynicism about government infrastructure spending overall period. End of story. Amen,

(01:49:47):
judge clock Biden's missing electric vehicle chargers in the journal today.
That's the problem, folks. They take your money, they take
your labor. It goes up there and eradicate about fifty
percent for overhead to support that massive administrative state and
get the money back in the form of yes, deals
for unions and equity and hiring specific people. Not the free,

(01:50:11):
not the not merit, not doing an RFP, not asking
for open bids for the best people and the best contractors,
which a free market should encourage and allow. No, they're
going to dictate how and who and what all of
these terms are, none of which has anything to do
with providing us with a better electric infrastructure. Seven fifty

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six thirty five KRC DE talk station. After the top
of the oir news Hillary Schulman or how State school
communication should be wild. They did a study shows how
predicting vote choice depends on how complex the ballot language is.
Issue one may come up, judge of Paulatano at eight thirty.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 12 (01:50:49):
They can trumble back, they can change your cards.

Speaker 11 (01:50:52):
The twenty twenty four election, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 16 (01:50:55):
This is done on fifty five KRC the talk stations.

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To your voice, I drive around and talk to a
lot of people your vote.

Speaker 15 (01:51:04):
Trying to do my part to get Donald J.

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Trump reelected on fifty five R the talk station at
oh five fifty five KRC Detalk Station. Brian Thomas wishing
everyone a very happy Wednesday, looking forward to the bottom
of the hour as I always do on Wednesdays with
judg Ena Paulitano, and really looking forward to dive on
into this study done by my next guests, among other researchers.

(01:51:26):
Hillary Shulman, PhD, Associate professor in the School of Communication
at the Ohio State University. Her work examines on how
communication can be used to stimulate engagement in the areas
of politics, health and science, and that's of course the
focus of the study we'll be talking about today. Caption
predicting vote choice and election outcomes from ballot wording, the
role of processing fluency in low information direct democracy elections.

(01:51:52):
Welcome to the program, Hillary Schulman. It's a real pleasure
to have you on today.

Speaker 12 (01:51:56):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Now in your study, and I yeah, I dove into it,
and you know, it's a lot, it's well, it's a
well written study. All of the research is documented. You
do give credit where credit is due, so no plagiarism here.
Lots of citations and other previous studies you relied on.
I had to clear the error on that one right out.
You're welcome.

Speaker 12 (01:52:18):
I appreciate you're reading that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Yes, you talk about low information voters, and this is
a concept that I am an admitted weed dweller. This
is what I do for a living. I'm reading politics
twenty four to seven basically, so I kind of feel
like I'm kind of at a higher level of understanding
when it comes to a lot of matters, including ballid initiatives.
But so many people, as you know, and I think

(01:52:41):
most people will acknowledge don't pay a lot of attention
to politics, and the more obscure an issue, the less
likely they're going to have any knowledge about it. And
as you note in your study that, well, sometimes when
people show up at the polling booth, it's the first
time they've ever been even exposed to the issue that
they're voting on.

Speaker 12 (01:53:03):
Yeah, that's true. I mean, there are definitely some issues
that gain a lot of exposure, and that campaigns rely
heavily on the fact that people aren't going to read
the language, so they just send you a mailer and
say vote yes or vote no, and people just go okay,
and they never actually read the language. But for these
like more obscure, like you're talking about political issues, things

(01:53:24):
like millages, things like amendments to you know, esoteric laws,
people might not know those are up for election and
walk into the voting booths on election day and see
those for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Well, in issue one and I don't know where you
are on and it's immature for the purposes of our discussion,
but you know, I'll predicate this statement or this question
or this point by acknowledging that, yes, I am a
weed dweller, but I'm also a lawyer at seven years
of college tall it wasted or not practice for sixteen years?
And the self deprecating comment I always raise my MENSA

(01:53:57):
membership because to me, it doesn't mean it doesn't mean
you're smart on any given issue. Now, with all that
I read Issue one, it's lengthy and it is bloody confusing,
even to someone who understands, you know, maybe more than
the average voter. I mean, it's it's crazy. So how
is someone how is someone to walk into the poll

(01:54:20):
as a low information voter to have any any understanding
of how this is actually going to play out in practice?
Who doesn't walk through hypothetical scenarios like well, what if
one of these independent committee members happens to be a
felon or you know what if they do something untoward
or illegal. As I understand it, there's no way for
the average person to go after them, to sue them,

(01:54:41):
to litigate whatever, to get them off. They have to
be voted out by their own membership. I find a
problem with that. But you aren't going to even grasp
that small component if you're standing there for the first
time looking at it in the ballot box.

Speaker 12 (01:54:57):
Nope, And here's what you're gonna do. You're going to
read that for the first time the ballot box, and
you are going to vote no on Issue one accordingly,
because you're going to be like, I don't like this,
and I use the word in my title, which you
know is a jargon y term, so forgive me. But
this idea of processing fluency, and that's the idea of
how much effort we feel like we're spending on reading something,

(01:55:19):
And in the case of Issue one, that perception of
effort is going to be really high.

Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
And really hard.

Speaker 12 (01:55:24):
And we don't like things that kind of challenge us
when we're not anticipating that challenge, and what we do
is we usually oppose it in that case. So well,
then who just walks into the voting booth. They're probably
going to vote no if they're just relying on the
language and I'm just relying on kind of their gut instinct,
and I.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Suppose your research demonstrates it. Well, I know what I'm
what I'm living with now and may not be perfect,
but since I'm confused by what I'm staring at, I'd
rather just stick with the status quo because I'm at
least familiar with and it isn't impacting my life directly, basically, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:55:58):
Yeah, there is evidence of that. It's called this that
is quo bias, and that is indeed true that people
will tend to vote for the thing that's already existing,
especially if they don't feel like they did their due
diligence and their you know, information searching on the topic.
And like you said, a lot of people sure don't.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
We might.

Speaker 12 (01:56:15):
I read the news every day, I enjoy listening to
all sorts of programs and whatnot, but I recognize that
I am an audity compared to the average voter, and
so absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
Well you got some company anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:56:30):
Well, the research does show that you and I, even
if we're in totally different ends of the political spectrum,
have a lot more in common with each other than
somebody who's less engaged.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Okay, now, how what impact? And again I'll just rely
on Issue one as an illustration of how this happens
generally speaking, because you didn't focus on that issues, focused
on these ballid issues generally. But then the money that
flows in and in that in particular Issue one, we
got a lot of out of state money. We have
the I guess the guy from Switzerland who's pumped in

(01:57:03):
millions and millions of dollars for reasons beyond my understanding,
but I think I understand it's for political reasons. Does
the money and the the just sort of the boiled down,
boiler plate language politicians evil? This takes politicians out of
the equation. Does that have an impact on people who
otherwise are low information voters and not inclined to read
through all this and the complexities to go with it.

Speaker 12 (01:57:27):
I mean, yeah, So the study you read at the
beginning actually focused on issues that get no money, right,
so that there's no outside interests, there's no bank account
from Switzerland funding an Ohio election ballot. But so in
these cases ballot language matters. But in the instances you're
talking about, right, the ballot or the funding for these

(01:57:49):
ballot initiatives can work a lot like an R or
a D on a kind of on local election right
where people just use it as a heuristic. If my
going yet, I'm going yes, If my team's going no,
I'm going no. And I'm probably likely to never read
that ballot language and just rely on these heuristics for

(01:58:10):
these cues like we do it a lot of kind
of downballot races just to say, I vote for my
team and I vote against my opposing team, and that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
Whatever the pink sheet of blue sheet states.

Speaker 12 (01:58:21):
Exactly whatever the fly or tells me that a person
whom I like, you know, endorsements.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
Matter for these things too.

Speaker 12 (01:58:28):
You know, if I the senator that I like is
endorsing this, then I'm likely to just say yes or
and vice versa.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
Well, in the underlying issue itself tends to matter in
terms of people's awareness of it. I think your research
found out or other research cited in your study, finds
out that social and moral issues have a higher awareness
rate than something non social like jerrymandering, I would imagine
is a non social issue.

Speaker 12 (01:58:55):
Yes, it's a non social issue, but they both are
likely to receive fun thing. But the thing is about
social and moral issues. You know, we had the Constitutional
Amendment in August right about putting abortion rights in the
state constitution. Regardless of how that ballot's written, people sort
of know where they stand on that, and all they

(01:59:16):
have to do is look up whether or not where
they stand aligned with the guests or now yeah and
then so so so for those people are more readily
able to access. You know what their vote means and
what they care about versus you know, millages and you know,
more right, more complicated in the weeds types of initiatives.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
But going back to something when I when I recall
the vote to legalize gambling, that ballot initiative that was
in or amendment that was in. People didn't think the
government should say you're not allowed to gamble. I think
it was you know everybody, for the majority of us,
we don't find any problem with gambling. There are problem gamblers,
but that's a subset. But in terms of me being

(01:59:58):
able to go out in place a bet, nobody cares.
So when Kevin an opportunity, it is like, oh, this
legalizes gambling, you get my yes vote. But they didn't
pay attention to the fact that it created a monopoly
for specific individuals and casinos, which was enshrined in the constitution,
which I find absolutely I voted no just because of
that reason, same reason I voted no on the original

(02:00:20):
marijuana cartel establishment. It was the mechanism that was wrong,
not the general issue. I don't care if you want
to smoke weed, but as sure as I wasn't going
to put in the hands of John Bayner, in hand
select couple of other people.

Speaker 12 (02:00:34):
Sure, well, this was.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
Really interesting, and you're.

Speaker 12 (02:00:36):
Raising the question of whether direct democracy is a good
thing and whether or not citizens are capable of kind
of reading legislation of this kind and understanding all the
repercussions and the ramifications of a certain initiatives. And there
are definitely people out there who would consider themselves, you know,
pro democracy and really care about what the people think.

(02:00:56):
But they still say like direct democracy could be problematic
because these decisions are potentially too complicated or multicaceted to
put in the hands of the people, and so you know,
these can be instances and again depending on how these
are written, and not all of us have law degrees,
whether we use them or not, you know, it could

(02:01:17):
be problematic for sure. And there are definitely people who
are opposed to kind of ballad initiatives and direct democracy
in general for these reasons. They think it could be manipulated.

Speaker 1 (02:01:27):
Clearly they can now now in terms of you deal
a lot within your study, which is fascinating. I'll encourage
my listeners to take a look at it. My producer
will put it on my blog page. Fifty five krc
dot com, the language that you use, and the word
difficulty the complexity of the language. So yeah, boiled down,

(02:01:47):
I got to figure based upon what you've explained to me,
and of course I read it. The more difficult the
languages to understand, the again, the less likely is someone
who's going to is someone who's going to embrace it
like scratch my head, I don't get it. I'm going
to go with no.

Speaker 12 (02:02:00):
Exactly exactly, so well, you know that's but you know
some of this too, is that this varies by state,
like and some of these ballots, and again this goes
into the challenges of direct democracy, is that some of
these ballots can be written, you know, with they have
more flexibility with how they're written, and politicians can write

(02:02:20):
them to kind of appeal to or try to explain
or make more accessible the ideas there is. But some
of these ballot propositions in certain states go directly into law,
so they necessarily have to be written in this legally
sort of fashion, and that, one could argue, makes voters
even less prepared to vote their preferences on that matter.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
So, in terms of using your study as a guide
for those who are proponents of or opponents of any
given legislation. Does your study help, you know, facilitate an
opportunity to create a broaden understanding of issues. Does it
suggest you know that you can market or buy ads

(02:03:04):
sufficient enough to sway the vote one way or another,
or really does it come down to securing the endorsement
of one party or the other.

Speaker 12 (02:03:14):
Well, there are cynical and stimistic views of this research.
But what I will say is, and this is like
a thesis of all of my work, is I am
just an advocate for I think people should better understand
and be engaged with kind of the political process. They

(02:03:35):
should know what they're voting for, and they should be
able to kind of understand. And when we use certain
kind of language tricks to potentially impair that understanding, whether
again for a bad intention or you know, just something
you're not even thinking about reasons, whatever those reasons are,
I think, you know, it should cause us to reflect
a little bit about how we can make the public.

(02:03:58):
You know, we need to meet the public where they are,
because you know, politics is in the service of us,
and language is one way to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
Yes, And I just wish it was higher on people's
you know, to do list, paying attentions to matters political
because it impacts every single one of us. Hillary Shulman, PhD,
Associate Professor in the School of Communication at de Ohigh
State University. Check out the study if you care to
at fifty five KRC dot com. Hillary, has been a
real pleasure having you on the program today. I enjoyed
our discussion me as well.

Speaker 12 (02:04:27):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
It's been a real pleasure. Take care of yourself. Eight
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Speaker 1 (02:05:38):
A twenty two fifty five KRCD talk station. Yeah, since
the Swiss billionaire came up and connects with issue one,
Thank you Maureen. It is Hans George Wiss is worth
four point seven billion dollars. He says of twenty twenty three.
He made his money in the medical device business or something.
But he is a leftist. He's been funding environ mental

(02:06:00):
leftist causes for a long time. But here you go
from Wikipedia, of all sources, not exactly what I would
call a glowing comment about who he is and what
he does. In twenty twenty one, New York Times report
of the Weise had quietly created a sophisticated political operation
to advance progressive policy initiatives and the Democrats who support them.

(02:06:20):
Twenty fifteen, The Week's Foundation initiated the Hub Project, which
seeks to, in their words, shape media coverage to help
democratic causes. The goal the Hub Project to help democrats
more effectively conveying their arguments through the news and media
and directly to voters, seeking to dramatically shift the public
debate and policy positions of core decision makers. The Hub

(02:06:40):
Project engaged in paid advertising campaigns in twenty eighteen criticizing
Republican congressional candidates. It's also part of the Arabella Advisors,
which is a vehicle the leading vehicle for funding what
they call dark money on the political center left. Hub
Project housed within the Arabella sponsored groups the New Venture
Fund of the sixteen thirty Fund. I know a lot

(02:07:03):
of my listeners have heard of those. He's donated four
hundred and twenty five million dollars to the sixteen thirty
Fund of the New Venture Fund since calendar year twenty sixteen.
Sixteen thirty fund gives directly to pitical political committees, and
plays for TV ads backing specific candidates and causes left
wing FEC said, and twenty twenty two sixteen thirty Fund

(02:07:23):
should be required to register as a political committee, which
would require more disclosure. New Venture Fund underwrites Acronym, which
owns The Courier Newsroom, a group seeking to boost democratic
candidates through local news stories and advertising. Weusee Foundation is
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(02:07:43):
media watchdog NewsGuard said State's Newsroom journalism had been brought
to by people with a political agenda. It goes on,
but he is one of the money groups behind Issue
one in Ohio. And just ask yourself a question, what
in God's name does environmental leftist living in Switzerland have

(02:08:04):
anything to do with the state of Ohio and our
jerrymandering or not? You know it just it just codifies
jerrymandering in the constitution and of course will benefit leftist groups.
They don't have their foot in the door in Ohio anymore.
They need it back. So what they can't win at
the ballot box, they're going to go try to change
in the state's constitution. Going back to the author's Hillary

(02:08:26):
Schulman's study on that it is a complex ballot initiative.
It is hard to understand. It's it's batcrap insane. If
I can boil it out in my own terms, and
it's backed by I think one leftist group. Look who's
behind Issue one. Look who has endorsed it to the
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(02:08:48):
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Speaker 1 (02:10:33):
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Speaker 17 (02:10:45):
Yah, Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
How are you, my friend? Doing as well as can
be expected. I think I might have dodged a pretty
significant s or RSV bullet. And my wife is just
overwhelmed with a cough and my son had it, and uh,
so far the cough has not attacked me. So I'm
counting my blessings on that because it's really going around
the area. I would have missed work, and I don't
want to miss a day of work between now and

(02:11:08):
the election, your honor, so I'm thanking God and my
lucky stars. Now, you know, I was jokingly referring to
your column last night as brilliant. I said, I bet
you get tired of hearing the word brilliant in connection
with your column. But that's the way I felt about it.
And I love talking with you about the Constitution, most
notably in connection with declarations of war. But let me
throw something at you real quick. I know you don't

(02:11:29):
mind a little curveball here, and I think you'll be
all over this one. You have pointed out time and
time again, and anybody knows the Constitution and the Bill
of Rights knows that the First Amendment The first thing
is the free exercise of religion. We enjoy that here
in the United States. We are not a theocracy, and
the government cannot interfere with the free exercise of religion.

(02:11:51):
Kamala Harris, when talking with NBC News Washington correspondent Hallie Jackson,
asked her, so is a question of pragmatism, then what
concessions would be on the table? Religious exemptions, for example,
Is that something that you would consider if the Republicans
control Congress? That question in the context of abortions and

(02:12:13):
Roe v Wade her response, I don't think we should
be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom
to make decisions about your own body. In other words,
the concept of a woman's right to control her body,
which is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, trumps the
specifically acknowledge free exercise of religion. There are many people

(02:12:35):
in the medical profession who do not believe, based upon
the religion, that abortions are appropriate under any circumstances. Should
the government be in a position to force doctors to
do something that they find objectionable because of their religion,
And my quick answer would be, of course not. They
can't and yet.

Speaker 17 (02:12:53):
My answer, my answer is the same as yours, and
so as the Supreme Court jurisprudence. She was not thinking clearly,
and she's animated by almost a fanatical not almost, it
is a fanatical support for abortion at any time, under
any circumstances, and for any reason, even to the point

(02:13:16):
where the government would force a medical team to perform
a surgical procedure which they believe is homicide.

Speaker 1 (02:13:28):
Yeah, you can't force a guy to bake a cake
for a transgender wedding. How could you force the doctor
to kill a baby? Correct?

Speaker 17 (02:13:34):
Correct, And your point is profound. There's no constitutional right
to an abortion. There never has been, even under Roe
versus Wade. The constitutional right, long recognized and rarely disputed
is the right to privacy. The fact that the abortion

(02:13:56):
occurred in the zone of privacy gave it the aura
Row versus Wade of being a constitutional right, But strictly speaking,
no Supreme Court case has ever held there's a constitutional
right to an abortion. So I don't know if the
Vice President referred to it as a constitutional right, which
it's never been, or a fundamental right, which is even

(02:14:19):
for which there's even less argument to be made. A
fundamental right is a natural right that comes to our humanity.
There's no natural right to kill another human being.

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
I would love to debate her.

Speaker 17 (02:14:31):
I actually like her as a person, but I would
love to debate her on this not.

Speaker 5 (02:14:36):
Going to happen.

Speaker 1 (02:14:36):
Well, I want to give you an opportunity at least
back me up, because I was talking about this earlier
and a lot of my listeners are very, very against
the whole idea of abortion. But the legal notion that
she's springing from I found smacked the First Amendment directly
in the face. So perfect. Moving on to war in

(02:14:57):
the Constitution, the Southery the column comes out tonight midnight.
I'm lucky man for getting a copy of it early.
This is a subject that you and I have been
over before, and yet we're still living it. In fact,
it seems to be getting worse. That is that we
are engaged literally with boots on the ground operating weapons
of war into theater, maybe more theaters than just the
two we're talking about here, both Ukraine and Israel. They've

(02:15:20):
got sophisticated weapons systems that we've given them that require
US Service personnel to actually operate them for reasons of security.
Or technology, So we're actually pulling the trigger in conflicts
that we're not engaged in.

Speaker 17 (02:15:36):
This is what prompted me to write the piece. I
have written similar themes with respect to Ukraine. But when
the White House announced twice last week that it was
sending the FAD thaa D an acronym for a very fancy,
very expensive defensive missile system that shoots down incoming missiles

(02:16:04):
in the sky, that was sending one of these to
Israel and a team of one hundred troops to guard it,
protected and operate it. Three days later they announced another FAD.
We only have seven, so two are there now. Three
days later they announced another FAD going and another one
hundred troops.

Speaker 1 (02:16:24):
That's what prompted me to do this.

Speaker 17 (02:16:26):
The President just can't send troops into harm's way on
his own, but they all do. They've been doing this
since the end of World War two. I mean, the
last time we declared war was December eighth, nineteen forty one.

Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
George W.

Speaker 17 (02:16:46):
Bush did get authorizations from Congress, about three or four
of them, to invade Afghanistan and invade Iraq. Biden has
gotten no Congression authorisations. Now Biden will say, well, look
they're paying for it. They obviously don't object to it.
That's a legitimate argument, But it's a way around the

(02:17:07):
Constitution because only Congress can declare war. So Congress avoids
the Constitution by paying for a war without declaring it
without a great national debate. The President avoids the Constitution
by putting troops into harm's way without getting a congressional
declaration of war. They both avoid and evade the treaties

(02:17:30):
we've signed, which say we can't declare war, we can't
engage in offensive war unless the other country presents an imminent,
grave threat to the security of the United States. Does
Iran present a grave imminent threat to the security of
the United States?

Speaker 4 (02:17:49):
No?

Speaker 17 (02:17:50):
Does Russia pose a grave threat to the security of
the United States? Answer? No, are we fighting wars against both?
We are against Russia and we're a to against Iran.
Totally unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 (02:18:04):
Now what, Brian?

Speaker 17 (02:18:05):
They all took a oath to preserve, protective, defend the Constitution,
the same oath I took when I became a life
tenured judge.

Speaker 1 (02:18:13):
They don't give a damn Well, they don't. And of course,
the same people who swear note to the Constitution and
in the next moment out of their mouth, they'll talking
about ways of taking away our Second Amendment rights. We
all know that that oath is a bit of a joke,
and that's a sad, sad thing to behold. But as
many of our conversations have debt, they trod upon our
First Amendment rights, they trod upon our Fourth Amendment rights.
I mean, it's it's just an amazing thing that.

Speaker 17 (02:18:36):
There's only one person in the Congress that complains about this. Correct, correct,
I mean your listeners know, you know, I know. But
he's a voice in the wilderness. He's the conscience of
the House of Representatives, the conscience of the Constitution. But
they don't listen to him. They do whatever they think

(02:18:59):
will put money in the coffers of their campaigns, and
we'll get them re elected.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
That's what they.

Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
Are concerned with.

Speaker 17 (02:19:07):
Who authorized the mass wars, Well, we're enriching the military
industrial complex. Who authorized the mass spying, Well, we got
to be kept safe from terrorists behind every refrigerator. I mean,
they gave us a society where the government is so overbearing.

(02:19:28):
I have a friend who asked another friend of Vietnam
veterans our age my age Brian, what were you fighting for?

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
They can't answer.

Speaker 17 (02:19:39):
He asked the guys who came home from Iraq and Afghanistan,
what are you fighting for? They can't answer. There's no valid, legitimate,
moral answer to that to those questions.

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
Well, and the other component of this, and you know,
the parallels with Vietnam cannot be understated. We start with
advisors and then start growing the number of advisors. The
next thing, you know, we have a large military foothold
in there, and it sounds to me like, you know, say, wow,
it's just one hundred troops and we're only engaging in
defensive these thad right, they're only if something comes at Israel,

(02:20:12):
then we'll shoot it down. That's not offensive use of
military hardware, but that we are there and we have
a military presence there. If they start shooting rockets at
us and harm our military personnel, I can see that
as being used as a pretext to expand into a
much broader conflict. So it creates an opportunity to make
a great case where we got to go after them.

(02:20:33):
Those suns and so and so they murdered our troops
that were stationed in Ukraine and Israel.

Speaker 17 (02:20:39):
So the troops are a tripwire. It's reprehensible human beings
as a trip wire. This is what Prime Minister Netsigyaho wants,
and this is apparently what President Biden wants in order
to justify to the American public a massive US involvement
in a war against the country that just wants to

(02:21:01):
trade with US. Pos there's no threat to us whatsoever.
By the way, do we have a treaty with Israel
that requires us to do this?

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
No?

Speaker 17 (02:21:09):
Do we have a treaty with Ukraine that requires us
to do this?

Speaker 10 (02:21:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
All the more reason.

Speaker 17 (02:21:14):
Why there should have been and still should be. And
even though we're at the tail end of a presidential campaign,
they don't debate this stuff a great national debate about
whether or not the United States should be involved in
a war in Europe and a war.

Speaker 5 (02:21:29):
In the Middle East.

Speaker 17 (02:21:31):
That's at least what Madison wanted. By putting the power
to declare war in the Congress, not in the presidents well.

Speaker 1 (02:21:38):
And whether or not you're in favor of it or not,
it is putting the American security at risk, because, as
you pointed out, we only had seven of these THAD
missile batteries. Now we have lost a bunch of them
to foreign powers, and we can't even protect our own ourselves.
Our military hardware is running out. I know you're against
the military industrial complex, but you know there are threats

(02:21:58):
foreign end domestic. We need to be prepared for them.
And from what I understand, our hardware is running out.
Our military is short on troops and personnel for a
variety of reasons. And oh, there's that whole thing going
on in the South China Sea and around Taiwan with
the Chinese getting very itchy at the trigger finger.

Speaker 17 (02:22:16):
I agree with everything you've everything you've said, we have
depleted well, we have almost down to zero of one
hundred and five one hundred and fifty five millimeters artillery shells,
which is the meat and potatoes of artillery. But we
are seriously depleting our military hardware by everything we send

(02:22:43):
to Israel into Ukraine. The numbers are vastly different. I mean,
it's about twenty billion to Israel, it's two hundred and
sixty five billion with a B to Ukraine. It's just
an unbelievable number that has produced the deaths of six
hundred thousand Ukraine young men, an entire generation dead for

(02:23:10):
what for what American purpose.

Speaker 1 (02:23:13):
Well, and it certainly hasn't worked out to the benefit
of Ukraine. They can't find any soldiers and they're losing
more and more land every single day to the advancing Russians.
Judge and Neapolitano always love talking with you. Controversial maybe,
but maybe not when you look at it in the
light of the Constitution of the United States. What's going
on today with Judging Freedom.

Speaker 17 (02:23:33):
I have the great investigative journalists Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate.
I have the former CIA agent who told George W.
Bush there were in Saddam Hussein did not have weapons
of mass destruction, Phil Giraldi, and I am on a
show of the great George Galloway, the anti war warrior

(02:23:57):
in the House of Commons representing Scotland. He's a fabulous
character and I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (02:24:05):
It and we will look forward to enjoying it as well.
Judging Freedom, Judge Otapolatonum. Until next Wednesday, my dear friend,
God bless you, sir. I'm back at you, Brian all
the best, Thank you very much. A forty four fifty
five Caro City Talk station. Don't go away, be right back,
stay right here.