55KRC Wednesday Show - Smitherman, Ken Kober, Jack Atherton, AFP, CCVS, Gary Benoit, Judge Napolitano

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Five o five at the five k r C the
talk station. Happy Wednesday, Sesay.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Some will.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Vacation, no ideals.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Thanks for summing it up for the world, Tally and
Joe Chucker for the SoundBite. Brian Thomas right here, glad
to be hope you're having a wonderful morning. Happy Wednesday
to you listener. Lunch Wednesday. Just get that out of
the way. Mad Tree Brewery, Summit Park location that's blue ash.
Looking forward to seeing everybody. May even see my friend
from cover sincey John Roman, who I talked to yesterday

(00:52):
said he might show up. Looking forward to see him.
Curbage Mike, if you're out there, are we playing a
game today? Hope? So my submarine or friend Curbbage Mike.
So maybe closed the day out or close the lunch
out with the game of Cribage and start off twenty
twenty six, maybe with a win. I'm not optimistic anyhow.
What a wonderful show Joe Streckers got lined up today.

(01:14):
It is interesting because we had two two discussions with
the Daniel Davis Deep dive. Of course, with the invasion
event as well and the capture of Maduro that gave
rise to the Monday segment with the retired lieutenant colonel
given his analysis on that, and then we did it
again yesterday further details on that and lots of complications.
It appears as though we made some Donald Trump announce

(01:37):
that we're going to be getting fifty million barrels of
oil from Venezuela. Some details on that coming up. So
that's there on the fifty five carse Morning Show page
fifty five carcea dot com for the podcast for those discussions.
So two in there is I mentioned that double segments
with the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Today we get a
volume two of the Smither Vent. Christopher Smitheman returns to

(01:59):
the programs six five to one hour from now to
talk about aftab's address. He got sworn in and then
immediately said, we need to increase taxes. Okay, we'll get
to the details on not in a moment. Two. Ken Cobra,
a former FAP president, Ken Kober, what are we gonna
do about crime? Can we finally put up the West
end cameras? Is it possible? Been promised for such a

(02:20):
long time? One hundred and fifty thousand dollars allocated last
summer after promises of two years of Hey, we're gonna
put cameras up to the West End, finally allocated. Some
money hasn't been spent yet. Silence is really deafening on
what the status is on that. How difficult is it
to find out where the cameras are, if they've been installed,
and what the status is? Does it sound like a
high ask? Does it hold on for that? So Ken's

(02:44):
gonna talk about that and more help from the state
of Ohio. I know aftab pro Bowl had struggled with
the idea of accepting some assistance from the governor with
regard to stopping crime or helping to fight crime in
the city of Cincinnati. We'll take two days worth of
state patrol assistance, but we only want a little tiny
bit of it. Okay, we'll make it four days. And
then at the end of the year it looked as
though that agreement was just going away and we weren't

(03:05):
going to be getting any more systems from the state
of Ohio. It spy to the fact that we still
have a serious crime problem in downtown. Ask have to
have parvall. He focused on it yesterday and he got
sworn in. Hmmm, I guess Christopher will chime in on
that coming up in an hour, as well as Kenkober
A big picture with Jack Avinent look at that with
a parenthetical after two segments. Today we're gonna be talking

(03:27):
with Jack Ovian about Venezuela and topic number two, how
Democrats see people. Here's my guess, useful idiots just guessing
ahead of time before we get to Jack aved at
seven oh five, followed by Americans for Prosperity, Donovan and
Neo has got some more endorsement for twenty twenty six,

(03:50):
including one here in the southwest corner of the state
of Ohio. Talk about in political engagements for this year
legislative primaries. In May, we got the US Senate and
governor on the ballot in November. AFTEB or rather A V.
Vike Ramaswamy has got a running made, he announced. I
believe the announcement was yesterday. Ohio Senate President Rob McCauley

(04:10):
has been tapped as mister Ramaswamy's running mate. So how
do you feel about that? First reported yesterday evening is it?
Ramaswami's team announced that if elected, he would be serving
as lieutenant governor. He's an attorney for Napoleon Ohio long
been the expected choice for Ramaswamy. So this I guess
for the political insiders, and I will not include myself

(04:31):
among those. I was not aware McCauley had the lead
in terms of Ramaswamy's choice. But there's the answer to it,
Senate President. He's forty one and ready to go, So
I think it's a winning ticket. I have a lot
of respect for v Big Ramaswami, and if Vivik says
he's the guy, I think he's the guy. Maybe he'll
join the morning show. Joe Odds on that working on it,

(04:55):
I knew you would be just check her ahead of
the game on that. So Donovan seven thirty on that,
we have Zach Kynes as well as his thoughts on
the running Meete clamor County Veteran Services returned at seven
forty question, why don't some veterans see healthair through the VA,
provided you're eligible? What reason would you have not to

(05:17):
take it up? I was like to point out, you know,
with some exceptions. I know that there are some like
I mean, making the gazillion dollars after you get out
of the military, maybe you don't qualify for the free
healthcare that you get from the VA, but you know,
really good services there, and you did get that as
part of your compensation. There's no reason you shouldn't take
them up on it. Sign up for your VA benefits.
You'll be amazed at what they have to offer for you.

(05:38):
My American veteran friends, Gary Minoy book Vanguard of the
Americanist Cause, says look out for Agenda twenty thirty. Oh no,
we've got another one of those United Nations Agenda twenty
thirty apparently no longer an abstract global framework increasingly shaping
policy decisions and cities across the United States, and that

(06:00):
he has examples on this interesting never heard of Para Gold, Arkansas,
have you no? Well, apparently this UN Agenda twenty thirty
is impacting the lives of my friends in Paragold, Arkansas,
where it's happening in other cities as well, long term
redevelopment plan that mirrors the United Nations Sustainable development. This
whole idea of the fifteen minute city. You will live

(06:23):
in packed housing. You will not be able to move
back and forth between communities without approval. That's actually a
thing in the United Kingdom. I found it very difficult
to believe. Critics of this whole program point to examples
like Oxford, England, where it reportedly residents must obtain permits

(06:45):
to cross major roads between zones, and are warning about
similar systems being introduced here in the United States, and
apparently a paragold Arkansas one of them. That's why we're
talking to Gary about his book. At eighth five remark,
does that sound like connected communities? Joe here in the
city of Cincinnati, A little bit done it? Eh, one

(07:06):
size fits all for all communities. You can't self determine
your rights and your individual area of town. No, no, no, no,
you will have it shoved down your throat in the
name of what ask yourself why? Of course it's uh Wednesday.
So after Gary joins the program NADO five, judge entered

(07:28):
Apolitano shocking no one. Yeah, he is upset about the
capture of Nicholas Maduro and I knew he was gonna
want to talk about that, So had a brief email
exchange with the judge yesterday on that. I'm shocked, shocked
that you want to talk about that. So Addie Howe

(07:49):
five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five, eight hundred
and eight two three taco with pound five fifty on
AT and T phones and jumping ahead of Christopher Smithman
and Dan Hills or Kenkober. Who's going to be on
a I'm sorry, Can Cobert? Yeah, who's going to be
on a tear about the proposal to increase income tax Why?
To fight crime? That's what's been widely reported in the
headlines locally. But what else is it beyond fighting crime?

(08:12):
You know there's something else there. So while being sworn
in or after being sworn in, purval announce the proposal
to increase the income taxes at least in the city.
You'll be able to vote on this comes a question
of when, but it will be placed on the ballot
to the extent they approve increasing your income tax. He said,

(08:32):
within the next sixty days, there'll be a proposal to
increase taxes on residents earnings for the purposes of funding
public safety measures. And maybe a link to our eighth
five guests affordable housing. Now Joe and I Joe brought

(08:52):
this article to my attention yesterday. We had a brief
comedic exchange back and forth text message wise, but where's
the railroad money? I heard a lot about it. Maybe
Christopher can answer that question. Do we need additional income
tax from the residents of the city. First off, let

(09:14):
me just point out something that I think speaks for
itself and is obvious and doesn't really need to be stated.
Is that a great marketing thing for bringing people to
want to move into the city of Cincinnati, People who
actually earn a living that will be paying an income tax. Hey,
move here, We're gonna take more of your salary. Yeah,

(09:35):
it's working great for California New York. Good point, Joe.
I love that loss or that that proposal in California,
the five percent billionaire's tax. They're gonna have to liquidate
their assets in order to pay it. Oh, it's only
gonna be a one time thing. You know, you gona
you're gonna flee the entire state. Although they say it's retroactive,
anybody's still living in the state of California in twenty

(09:56):
twenty six is gonna be subjected to this. So if
you move out, they're still gonna take it from you. Anyhow,
I wonder what the moving truck activity is right now
in New York. Out the the out migration in New York.

(10:17):
I'm sure you can't get a U haul anyway. Parl
Ball City believes the tax player will play a role
in quote disrupting poverty, which is the root cause of
youth violence. Poverty is the root cause of youth violence. Well,

(10:40):
according to Brother Dre Andre Ewing was on the program
last week. He was a splictins a police officer coming
up in thirty years. He does a lot of work
in the prison system, interacting with people who are well
familiar with well criminal activities. They got convicted and were
locked up as a consequence of their activities. Andrea Ewing,
what would you say is the biggest problem that leads

(11:00):
people to crime? Broken homes, fatherless homes, Mom's out working
all day. You got a bunch of latch key kids
coming in their influenced by their friends, maybe some uh,
you know people they're doing drugs, that kind of thing.
There's your root cause of poverty right there. It's been
said over and over and over and over and over again. Anyway,

(11:24):
Aftab said, juvenile gun violence is a crisis and it
must be met with a bold response. Bad thing, juvenile
gun crisis word word word bold. We need a bold response.
What specifically is it raising the taxes on the residents
of the City of Cincinnati. I'm sure if you're a
working person in the city and you're paying taxes, you're
probably not involved in youth gun violence. You got to

(11:46):
deal with it, though, don't you. Quote new revenue will
allow us to here we go, fund and further prioritize
public safety investments and support our police and fire in
a historic way. Well, I suppose historic in terms of

(12:06):
the purbole administration of the currents ands. A city council
actually saying the words out loud, you support the police
and are doing something to help support them, is in
and of itself a historic change and shift in philosophy,
it went on to say. But it will also empower
us to invest in affordable housing, catalyze neighborhoods that have
not shared in our growth, and support programs that will

(12:30):
help build our norty owned businesses. Support programs. You know
what that sounds to me like? That sounds to me
like it's an opportunity for another non governmental organization labeling
itself as a nonprofit, to put its hands in the
collective cookie jar of the taxpayer funds and get paid.
We've been down this road many times. Before. Haven't we

(12:51):
catalyzed neighborhoods that have not shared in our growth? Anybody
going to break that down for me? What does that mean?
It's all part of his bold initiatives. I suppose he said,
my expectation will be an annual commitment and all of
the resources available to us from the state will be

(13:12):
deployed in the city under the chiefs command, Meaning he's
going to accept I guess the help from the State
of Ohio offered by the current governor of the State
of Ohio accord to reporting other parts of this public
safety plan permanently implementing walking patrols in the city. I
hope that means cops, I know. I was just thinking, Yeah,

(13:35):
ask Iris if her son's gonna get some T shirts
printed up and some hoodie's printed up and labeled walking
patrol and just you know, suit people up and have
him walking around anyway, bit forty dollars an hour for
that job. Why not? Well, Joe's pulling figures out of

(13:56):
thin air. Though it sounds probably like you're pretty accurate,
Joe as a prediction, building onto the city's bike patrols,
investing in technology like license played readers, and the Cincinnati
Police Department's drawn program investing in programs that have proven
to mitigate crime. That's in quotes. I thought we didn't

(14:17):
do any follow up on the programs. When the money
goes out to the NGOs who are supposed to do
things like mitigate crime, we never do follow up to
find out if they actually mitigate crime. Another topic brought
up when I had a conversation with Andrea Youwing about
that on the show. All right, well, I like to
see the data proving that whatever program's going to get
the money has actually resulted in some crime mitigation and

(14:37):
finally continuing curfew for juveniles in certain parts of over
the Rhine in downtown, but not all parts. And then
what about those cameras. The hope was that the safety
plan that was unveiled last year, the five point four
million safety Plan, which included one hundred and fifty thousand

(14:59):
dollars for money installing ca lights in the area over
in the West End, which have been promised them for
two and a half years and have not yet shown up.
Where is that money? The mayor said, The Sincini Police
Department does have cameras in the West End. Love that
are you ready but couldn't say how many or how

(15:22):
many still need to be installed. Do you think that'd
be a critical piece of information for the mayor to
have at his disposal since we've all been asking about
them since the most recent killing of an eleven year
old over there? Does anybody have that information? And that's
for the railroad money. I'll just say this out loud.
I hate to sort of joke about this, but you know,

(15:45):
if there is railroad money coming in the investment of
the billion dollars or whatever, isn't crime part of the
existing infrastructure. I think you can make an argument five
twenty one right now. Feel free to give me a
call if you have anything to say. I love to
hear from you. Got some time. And then before we
get to Christopher with the return to Christopher Smith, a
vent for a Wednesday's Smith event coming up at seven
o five, continuing the theme along those lines, be.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Right back fifty five KRC flashed back to the countdowns
you grew up with Tony Night fifty six.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
For the low with scattered showers and scattered showers will
continue on Friday, I guess, and to end into Saturday anyway.
Friday's high sixty degrees right now, it's forty four degrees.
If you've got KERSEB talk station today, the anniversary of
that God Rest his soul, those people who are not

(16:39):
Rush fans, the anniversary of Neil Parrot's death. He and
Danny Carey right up there at numbers one and two.
You can assign the number one and two spot yourself. Great,
great drummer, What an amazing drummer. Anyway, apparently fifty million
barrels of oil, that's what we're gonna get out of

(16:59):
that as well. Trump announced yesterday that the Venezuelan interim
authorities who are going to be the regime loyalist I
guess the CIA did some numbers crunching and said, well,
you're going to need to keep some of Nicholas Missuro's
regime folks in there, specifically Vice President Delsi Rodriguez, because
you're going to need some form of stability, and if

(17:20):
you just put in people who are Maduro oppositionists in place,
you're gonna have someupt some disruption in the country. And
no kidding on that. I suppose so state of flux there,
and she seems to be a fence sitter in so
far as whether or not she's going to cooperate with
the United States. But as you know, as of yesterday,
with this announcement, between thirty million and fifty million barrels

(17:42):
of sanction oil going to be brought here to the
United States for processing at our refineries and then resold
for the benefit of the Venezuelan people and of course
the United States. This oil will be sold at its
market price, and that money will be controlled by me,
Donald Trump, as President of the United States of America,
to ensure that is used about to fit the people
of Venezuela and the United States. Of course, Venezuela's Ministry

(18:04):
of Information didn't respond to requests for comment. Maybe it's
still trying to get the power on down there, I
don't know. Dropped in US oil price benchmarks, of course,
one percent drop in the price of oil as a
consequence of this action, more oil in the market. Of course,
the laws of supplying demand suggests that the price of
oil will certainly drop. Presidents expected to meet with some

(18:24):
of the oil executive Chevron, Connaco, Phillips, and Exonmobile on
Friday to see if he can finagle them into reinvesting
into Venezuela's crumbling refining infrastructure. Of course, that money's going
to have to be invested if you want to get
the oil reflowing again, especially at the levels it was
flowing before. Well, all the disruption was notably Hugo shave

(18:46):
Is getting elected, nationalizing the oil industry, kicking out the
private industry that was actually running it efficiently and taking
it over himself, only to find the whole thing spiraling
out of control. Then you had the sanctions on top
of that. Then of course the blockade, so Venezuela is
still sitting on a whole lot of oil. Question is
whether we're actually going to get it. We'll find out,

(19:09):
yes to the victor goes the spoils. I don't know.
Fred's on the phone. We're going to take your call
right out of the gate. Fred, I've got to take
a break for a run over longer as I did
in the last segment, five twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Right now, fifty five KRCD talk station, fifty five krc
How do.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You feel about your current asset portfolio? It's five thirty
fifty five KRCD talk station. Yeah, Joe, there are many
times on the fifty five carsee Moriey show or I'd
love to be able to explain my coming back from
break laughter. I don't think the SEC would really truly
appreciate my delving into the details of our conversation off air,

(19:45):
So we're just gonna let that go and take Fred's call. Fred,
thanks for calling this morning. Happy Wednesday to.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
You, Hey, good morning, Happy winness to you.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Thanks man, Good to hear from you again. Happy to
do here.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
By the way, Yeah, first I had to say our part.
I wish everything go well for mister Thomas Abment. I
had to say that first. I've been listening to you
and I pray for you every single day mine.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
You know I've never met you personally, but I consider
you a friend of mine.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know what, Fred, I truly appreciate that. I consider
the listeners to this audience my friends without question. You know,
we can disagree, not necessarily your I, but maybe we
have in the past, maybe had some disagreements. But the
idea that you call in want to engage, you listen
to the program, You care enough about your community to
tune in. It means the world to me, and that
you know you're concerned about my health that that is

(20:33):
just that that's one of life's little miracles for me there, Fred,
it really really is, so thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I just trust definitely, definitely. And one thing I want
to talk about is as far as the violence and
uh uh, the individual that seems to be committed the violence,
and it's you know, I grew up in in pretty
much in the inner city, and and and and I
understand what you're saying that that it seems to be
single parent homes, and I guess my outlook on it

(21:00):
is a little different than yours and what statistics say,
you know, and it's it's more or less a generational
thing in some homes that that it cursed so speak,
has to be broken. And the only way to do
that is is more or less to eradicate it. And
the only way to do that is to you know,

(21:21):
do it by more or less strength, so to speak,
because same individuals do the same thing every single day.
I see them every single all day. And when you
don't do nothing about it and allow it to infest
like like like bugs, then of course it's just going
to grow. And since uh more or less, I'm in

(21:41):
one of the hills Avondale, downtown bond Hill, the same
people are doing the same thing every single day, and
nobody never say anything. And and and those communities are
once with the most violent center. And you know, and
my whole outlook is once again, I can stand there
and Washington police uh past them and never do anything.

(22:03):
And there's alls on the book that we do not
use can be used against these individuals, will stop a
whole lot of these crimes. And I just think that
if we just just just look at what's what's there.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
To be used.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I'm like I said, once again, you know, I'm in
a neighborhood that's a doll of violence in it in
and you have I think, what's I think it's alcohol stop.
I can't think what. I can't think of his name
of us now when they stop you, uh for two blocks,
alcohol blocks or something like that, I can't think of
the name of it. Anyway, you dad put it in

(22:41):
a newspaper before they do it. I can't think of
the name of it. But anyway, why can't we do
that in certain neighborhoods, not just for alcohol check checkpoints.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I kind of knew what you
were going. Streams out checks for joe.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Us, Yes, check, But you've got certain streets that's in
the neighborhood that's causing more crime. And if they checked,
there's more murders and and and killings on certain streets.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Isn't that where the aren't that where is that where
the resources are supposed to go? Then that's what I thought, Yeah, well,
I mean that, but active policing where the crime is
you know what I mean, it's it's target law enforcement.
Where's the biggest concentration of crime. Isn't that the logical
place to put more police officers?

Speaker 6 (23:36):
But and then I keep saying the same thing over
and over again that I see the police but not
coming down my street or are near my house. And
I just think that it could be much more can
be done. I understand that their recruits are coming in
and they're going to have more police out of the streets.
But my whole thing is this, when there is no

(23:56):
crime in one place, why not put more police and
other where there's crime?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Fred, you're making take the.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Police behind the desk. From behind the desk, you don't
have to do anythin just going look you.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
Make it, make it.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Not make it too much sense? Fred, you're make it
too much sense. I mean, I am not a member
of law enforcement. I didn't study criminal justice. I mean
my connection to law enforce is basically because my sister
was a cop for more than twenty five years. But
if you know where like the West End they have
crime all the time, I mean, you can see the statistics.
Cameras might go a long way to at least solving

(24:31):
the crime. But you got to put the damn cameras
in to at least have some sort of impact. We've
been waiting for years for that little tiny thing to
happen in a neighborhood that has been overrun with crime.
You live in this particular neighborhoods, you see the crime,
you're aware of it. You know statistically that that's where
a lot of the crime is happening over and over again.
Apparently it's not happening at Hyde Park, right, So get

(24:51):
the cops over to bond Hill or the West End
or wherever. Ah fred makes too much damn sense, Maybe
that's why they don't do it.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
But once again, man, I pray for you every single day.
My shifts changed. Now definitely would be able to call
it a little bit more and like I say, pray
for you and your family, man, and you take care
of yourself, and we'll be talking.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Fred. You're good man. I appreciate it all day long.
And I love hearing from you because you speak from
an experience that I do not share. You know the neighborhood,
you know what you see, you know where the problems are.
This is the kind of conversation we need to have
from people who've experienced it and rational people like Fred
to appreciate that, you know what, the presence of law
enforcement is not a bad thing. Iris Roli five thirty six.

(25:38):
If you have Kcity Talk Station, Oh look, Tom's on
the line. Hang on. Tom gets you right out of
the gate. Five KRC. Bred's fans. Now is the time
to hear a seat Deep Talk Station five forty. Happy
Wednesday listener, lunch, mat Tree Brewery Today, Summit Park. Hey,
real quick on the comment on Fred's comment, and I

(25:59):
appreciate what he's saying. I do you agree with Fred
that more police in any given area will deter crime?
Because if you're standing there and you are planning on
committing a crime, if it's a cop there, I think
we could all agree it's less likely to happen. The problem,
I believe, and we really got to get into the
root of this is what is the impetus for committing

(26:19):
the crime? And how do you eradicate someone's willingness and
desire to engage in criminal activity? Where does that come from?
You know, and my family raised okay, you were I
was raised. You know, they tried to teach me morals.
Of course, they took me to church, and you learn
some morals from church. The threat of incarceration and a
record was always a looming thing in the back of

(26:40):
my mind. Everybody's got to maybe I'll just do this, eh,
you know, it's I can get away with it.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know what happens. You ed up with a record,
and the deterrence was you don't end up with a record.
You know, my parents are patting in your head. You know,
you end up engaging your criminal activity, You're not gonna
be able to get a job. You will be unemployable.
No one wants to hire a criminal. That's the repercussions.
But that's a bad thing, because oh my god, you're

(27:07):
gonna you know, at somewhere there has to be accountability.
There has to be something that prevents someone from engaging
in the activity, even if they want to do it.
It's the fear of incarceration, the fear of punishment, that's
the key leg of the criminal justice system. And then
you go out after you're convicted and serve your jail
time or to face whatever criminal justice you're gonna face

(27:28):
because you committed a crime, you're the poster child for
everybody else to not do it. Look what happened to Jim.
He committed crime and now he's serving time. I don't
want to be Jim. This is just all logic and reason,
but someone's gotta be there to pound that into a
young person's head. Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show. Good

(27:50):
to hear from you.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Happy New Year, Happy New Year. Uh yeah, I was
one of the many thousands of people that got affected
by the whole airspace over Puerto Rico and Caribbean thing.
I know, nobody's gonna feel sorry for me for being
in the Caribbean, but uh yeah, that was a that
was a bit of a nightmare. Definitely not a pr

(28:13):
stunt by the President. That was bad. I know, I know,
bad timing on that one, but hey, what are you
gonna do. You're trying to surprise people. So, yeah, your
your topic you're talking about with Fred, Well, I agree
with Fred. Hard to argue with that. However, there's too
many people out there that are arguing with that, that

(28:34):
are feeling like, oh, you're putting more cops in this neighborhood,
Well that's racist. Wait a second, do you want us
to deal with crime or do you want us to
worry about people's feelings? Because you can't do both.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
What does it have to do with race? This is
the default argument for the left. You're racist. We're not racist.

Speaker 9 (28:52):
We're going after.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Criminals exactly, exactly. And and if more more of the
criminals happened to be one race or the other, whatever,
that's hey whatever, Nope, the cops shit care, you know.
And yeah, well it's.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Like the Somali community. We're not being racist for going
after fraud and crime it happens to be within the
Somali community. Apparently word got round that you can easily
build the American taxpayer for shoot loads of money. Caught myself,
didn't I, but let's do it. Okay. It's not because
they're of color, it's not because they are Somali. It's

(29:26):
because they live in a collective area where the word's
gotten around that it's easy to do that. And guess what,
a whole bunch of them engaged in it. I don't
care if they're white, red, green, yellow, whatever color skin
they happen to be. They're members of a close knit
community who engage in massive fraud. Go after them. Has
nothing to do with racism.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
Yeah, we we, and unfortunately we have too many people
who obtain positions of power and this is on both
sides of the aisle that figure out a way to
do things to make it easier for people to get
away with crimes, whether it's you're violent crime or whether
it's white collar crimes or whatever. And somebody at some
point has to put their foot down and say no,

(30:05):
I don't really care who you are. You broke the law.
You have to pay the consequences. And there's not enough
of that going on. And it's pretty obvious that there's
one party that's doing that a lot more than others,
and that's the Democrat Party. There they are jumping through
hoops to make it easier for people to get away
with crimes and open the floodgates to get all this money.

(30:27):
So this is what's all about Brian, all this money
and a tab just wants to make that pot bigger.
We gotta we gotta have more money. No, we don't
have to have more money, a tab. We have to
have more accountability. And I know that words scares the
hell out of Democrats, but that's what we need. Don't
vote Democrat. Have a great day, Pad to have you
back time. I'm glad you made it back safely from
your trip. Sorry it was interrupted by military actions in Venezuela.

(30:51):
You see it, fifty Think about krc DE talk station
trying to have a happy Wednesday. If you're not having
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We's gore to the home. See what Jay's got this morning.
J Happy New Year. Good to hear from you.

Speaker 10 (31:08):
Hey, Happy new Year, and Brian, Hey, I wanted to
tell the listeners and you and everybody that over the
past several years, all the talk and discussion and frustration
with Ohio medicaid fraud, I think we're finally making traction.
I'm hearing even at the national level that when people
say Minnesota, the very next state that comes in is Ohio.

(31:31):
So keep pushing. Now's the time call your politician, call
Dave Jos's office, call auditor Keith Faber, and ask them
what are they doing about it. I did have the
opportunity and was able to get through into the Glenn
Beck program and also the Rush Limbaugh program over the

(31:51):
Christmas break to get the word out at the national level.
If you think Minnesota is bad, just stand by because
I think that forty three point three percent improper payment
rate at Ohio had last time we had some data
would put us closer to not the nine billion a
Minnesota seeing, but I think we're going to be close
to the seventeen billion. If you do the math on

(32:12):
a forty two to forty five billion dollar Medicaid line item,
forty three point three percent in proper payment.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, that multiple programs. This is just Medicaid, it's not Medicare,
it's these family programs. It's literally every government program out there,
apparently RTE with fraud, waste, and abuse. I mean I
viewed all of this as low hanging fruit. Jay. I mean,
I'm in your camp on this, and we went with
modern technology and the abild to cross reference data and
track information. We should be able to ferret this all

(32:39):
out in fairly short order, assuming they're willing to put
the resources behind it.

Speaker 10 (32:44):
I mean, well, speaking a resource, speaking a resource. I
also found out I did some digging on where is
the Joint Medicaid Oversight Committee that I Jennifer Gross was
a member on. Found out that that got shut down
defunded in September of twenty twenty five. After all those years,
the cost of the taxpayers, what went into the politician's

(33:06):
pocket was about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
year for those members all those years accomplished absolutely nothing,
and they quietly shut it down in September, which I'm
glad they did, because if you're not going to do anything,
then then stop paying people to get into a room
and talk about a whole lot of nothing. But it
begs the question of if we're worse than the country

(33:28):
and the republic, ten people from Ohio government couldn't get
together and figure it out, what do you replace it with?
If now, who's Joint Medicaid Overset Committee or just the
wind just get to run rampant just the way he
wants to and spend this money however he wants to,
because this falls at his feet. He's the governor and

(33:48):
the Department of Medicaid and Medicare roll up under him. Now,
Jennifer Gross did tell us that for every I think
it's for every dollar that the state of Ohio kicks
for reimbursement from the Fed, we get three dollars back,
which would explain everything.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's the corrupt part of the system is it's federal money. Ergo,
there's no reason to keep track of fraud, waste abuse
because you end up getting more money back from the
Feds in the state and the states sent out. It's
a great self fulfilling prophecy on that one.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
So now's the time to push listeners.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
And don't you know, I'm.

Speaker 11 (34:23):
I'm going to reverse what we used to say.

Speaker 10 (34:25):
Brian, don't vote Rhino. I think that they're more dangerous
than Democrats. Honestly, Well, we got to defeat them first
and then don't vote democrat.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Ye.

Speaker 10 (34:34):
Have a good day, Brian.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Good to hear from me. Jay again, Happy New Year,
appreciate the calls. Yeah, I get a couple of stack
of stupid stories in here for we take a break.
And then here from Christopher smith a mom with volume
two this week of the smither Van. Yes, of course,
dealing with f tab provols claim to need additional income
tax from the residents. Got a woman in South Carolina
now under arrests for causing a scene, Yeah, quite a scene.

(34:56):
Richland County Sheriff's Departments at thirty five year old Cardiesia
Gilmour rested facing charges that including decent exposure, shoplifting, and
public disorderly conduct. According to the Sheriff's office, she was
caught trying to steal four packs of stakes at a
public's Why are you doing that? I don't know. Maybe
because she not figured she won't be facing any charges

(35:19):
in the criminal justice system. Thought she was in California anyway,
I don't know got she became irate after she was
confronted and proceeded too, of course, like everyone would urinate
on the floor of the store. When de wuty showed up,
she ran away and her traffic in a nearby road
before eventually complying with authorities. The deputies stated that Gilmour

(35:41):
tried to run again after being taken to the patrol car,
but was restrained. Sheriff's department said she also tried to
kick a deputy in the face, had no identification on her.
They said they only found her carrying an empty bottle
of oxy codone that was prescribed to a different person.
Real Quick Care a theme. We got a New York

(36:01):
advertising executive who's been arrested for urinating on several victims
from a rooftop bar.

Speaker 9 (36:08):
Do what the hell?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
As a consequence of this obscene behavior, he will be
performing community service and prohibited from using alcohol or mind
altering substances. As part of the deal he's struck with prosecutors.
Judge approved the pretrial intervention with Matthew Day. He's thirty,
arrested in July for disorderly conduct at the Landing, which
advertises itself as an elevated hangout balcony bar. Please claim

(36:33):
the Day entered the rooftop bar, pulled his junk out
of his shorts, urinated from the balcony onto the sidewalk,
where several passers by were struck with urine. Cops reported
shockingly that Day showed an indication of alcohol influence when
he was arrested for his activity. He accepted responsibility for

(36:57):
the crime. It's got to be performing fifty hours of
community was undergoing of alcohol evaluation and counseling. Aparently part
of a pretty decent firm that does advertising, and I
imagine he's probably no longer with them anymore. Not good publicity,
you might will ron another consequence of criminal activity. If
you are gainfully employed and you commit a stupid crime

(37:19):
like this or any other crime, you're probably gonna get fired.
Fifty six fifty five KR see the talks station, Christopher
Smithman out of the gate after the break, kep sticker around.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Today's tough headlines coming up at the top at six.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Or five fifty five cars de talk station, and I'll
probably mention it a lot this morning, because let's see
folks at Mattree Birwdy they summit park location for listener
lunch and always enjoy the fellowship they're kicking off twenty
twenty six on the right foot. Hopefully that all these
swirling bad news and the craziness going months, notably the
swearing in of FT provol and his claim that we

(37:55):
need to raise the income tax. At least he mentioned
public safety, but also I guess money for affordable housing.
Welcome back to get it out of your system, Christopher,
I love being a therapy guide for you to to
help deal with your mental health challenges to deal with
all this news. Smither Event Volume two for this week
Christopher Smithman, Welcome back to this show, my friend.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh, thank you so much for having me on Bright
you know, for your listening audience. You know, the city
budget is no different than your household, right and every
day you've got to wake up and pay for the
operation of your home, their capital improvements like fixing your roof,
putting in a new HVC unit, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Paying your duke energy bill, paying.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Your Duke energy bill exactly exactly that amazing radar.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
So pissed off about that one.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And you don't walk in around the dinner table and
look at your your spouse or your significant other and say, listen, man,
you know we've got to make some tough choices here.
You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and buy
a really nice car, and at the same time, I'm
gonna I'm not gonna cut Netflix or I'm not gonna

(39:12):
cut my spectrum bill, or you know, I'm not gonna
reduce something else. I'm not gonna take that big trip.
I'm gonna do all those things. The problem with city Hall,
it's a spending issue. Let's start with the operation of
the streetcar, not the capitol building of it. This is
what we talked about, Brian Tarmin. The chickens are coming

(39:34):
home to roost, right, so I estimate it's five a
year just to operate the streetcar. This council wants to
take the second leg up to UC. Here's what's really happening.
They don't care about police officers. There's there's nothing that

(39:55):
shows you that they care about law enforcement. This is
about generating more money because the COVID dollars that they've
been patting the budget with are now gone, and so
now they have to sit back and really balance the budget.
Instead of balancing the budget, they're going back to the
will and they're saying, let's raise the income tax on

(40:16):
the three hundred and fifty thousand or three hundred and
thirty thousand citizens that live in the city of since
that knowing that our property taxes are already going through
the roof. This is just an irresponsible mayor and council
that cannot balance a budget. They keep putting out these
lofty contracts like to an Irish ROLLI as an example,
and you say, well, what is she doing. She's hiring

(40:39):
her son, what's happening with that money. See, this is
the kind of stuff where if you're in the city
and you're watching how they manage their budget, and then
you're watching the mayor's personal cars be repolled, you don't
trust that they know what they're doing, and the fact
is they don't, Meaning why don't they make the hard
decisions in front of them, Meaning show us that you're

(41:03):
willing to reduce your own spending prior to coming to
the taxpayer and saying, will you bail us out for
all the irresponsible decisions? But no, they'll come right back
and say, you know, we've got to do the mural,
the Black Lives Matter Mural. We're going to spend another
million on that. We're going to do a contract for IRIS.

(41:23):
We're going to fire people irresponsibly and just keep putting
money out. We're not going to reduce any hours on
the street car. We're going to continue to operate it
at the same level, meaning at the same time we're
going to talk about building the second thing of the
street car and guess what, we're going to tax all
of you, even more money and tell you it's about cops. Well,

(41:43):
it has nothing to do with cops, nothing to do
with it.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Well, don't overlook the very large checks they're going to
be writing to the former fire chief and probably please
former Chief Fiji when they settle out their employment dispute
discrimination cases. That's millions of dollars right there. I suspect
that will.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Be absolutely What they're really trying to do, what this
mayor pure of all, is really doing is he's trying
to pit police officers against conservative voters. So what they're
setting us up to say is this is a narrative.
If you vote against us raising the income tax, you're
voting against cops, as if he's for cops. Right, So,

(42:23):
there are lots of bees that are funded in the
operating budget outside of police officers. But what he's trying
to do is pit the profession against all of the
citizens of Cincinnati who say, we want to be safe
and you haven't been able to deliver safety to us.
It's not about raising taxes to the public. This is
a council with the mayor that you voted for. Elections

(42:46):
have consequences, and so whether it's the eight million dollar
settlement for those who were downtown who are acting crazy
and we're arrested, and we're now paying them off on
that settlement. Whether it's an Irish rule, the contract, whether
it's the operation of the street car, you name it,
I guarantee you. You and I could put a fine

(43:07):
too to this budget and cut things that they are
going to be uncomfortable with. But we can find ten
or fifteen million dollars a year in operating that we
shouldn't spend before we raise any taxes on the public.
They'll never do it. This is about this is a
spending issue. This is about raising our taxes Brian Thomas,
and they just don't ultimately care. The last thing I'll

(43:29):
say is remember this is a democratic council that says
they care about the poor. This is a democratic council
that says we care about affordable housing. How do they
think that everyday people can pay for increases in property taxes?
The widow or widower out there who's going to fix
the income How do they think on a social Security
check that they're going to pay for these increases in

(43:51):
property and income tax and feeves that they keep slamming
us with, which makes Cincinnati one of the most expensive
places in our state to live.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Well, you got a lot of unpackage on that there,
Christopher Smithman. I guess when you going back to your
comment about this as an effort to pit conservative voters
against Democrat voters, you presume, and I think it's fairly accurate.
Conservatives tend to be pro law enforcement, and we certainly
agree that there should be more law enforcement officers in
downtown Cincinnati in order to improve the crime situation. That's
a logical response to crime. But this is so much

(44:25):
more than that. So first off, let me just say,
there don't appear to be a whole lot of conservative
voters in the city of Cincinnati as I stare at
the chart in the aftermath of the last election, where
it's basically solid blue with the exception of Californian Riverside
and saleor Park. So I'm not sure there are that
many conservatives out there to even vote one way or

(44:45):
the other. But when you start saying further prioritize public
safety investments, support police and fire, also empower us to
invest in affordable housing, I don't know what these words mean,
but he said them. A purvol catalyzed neighbor hoods that
have not shared in our growth and support programs that
will help build our minority owned businesses. All of that

(45:06):
is going to be accomplished with some percent increase in
the income tax. If it was just law enforcement, if
they presented us a budgetary scenario, going back to your
budget comment, Look, we're in trouble. We need to hire
more police officers. In order to do that, we're gonna
have to pay them more because nobody wants to work
in the city of Cincinnati, where everyone thinks the police suck.
It's only for police. No other programs are going to

(45:26):
benefit from the money. It's gonna bring in X millions
of dollars. We're going to use it all to hire
police and improve public safety, period, end of story. That
might sell as a proposition, but this is a have
to have provol so it's not about public safety. In fact,
check out Todd Zinzer's post. He here's what he said
just nine hours ago. Apparently city Hall is wasting no
time to try to raise the earnings tax. The mayor

(45:48):
and council would like to keep spending more and more
tax payer money to quote disrupt poverty close quote until
they get it right, or the city, its businesses, and
its taxpayers go broke, trying I put my money on
the ladder, todd says, to my point, disrupting poverty was
basically the same purpose the mayor cited for his twenty
twenty two tax increase, except then they raised property taxes

(46:12):
in the city, and there was no mention about public
city in the mayor's motion whatsoever. His motion posted Bluss.
We can even read what he wrote back then. So
instead of increasing the earning tax, todd says, the city
should increase fraud prevention and detection. He says, there are
quite a few of us out here who would be
willing to help the city to do that, I e.
Todd Zinzer. And at the same time, it would help

(46:33):
the mayor keep his twenty twenty three promise of no
new taxes, which is another reference going back to what
the mayor previously said, no new taxes. Remember George Bush
said that and he ended up losing an election over
raising taxes. Hey, I have to have provoll what about
your twenty twenty three promise.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Corey Bowman was on the ballot and we had an
opportunity to elect in the mayor and that was in November.
We're talking about this in January. The mayor knew all
of this prior to the election. This is absolutely abating switch.
And the other thing that I want to want to
highlight about this, and I agree with what Todd is saying,

(47:13):
but if this mayor really wanted this to be about
public safety, and I hope the president of the FOP
is listening, are sitting on ninety nine who I know
will be on on Friday, I'll be listening at AAM.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Ben Coober is at the bottom of this hour, so
we're going to be hearing from him shortly.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So I'll be listening to your entire show. What I'm
saying is why not then do a dedicated income taxes
is what you're leading to, or say just for cops,
meaning if this is about cops, why not say, Okay,
we're going to raise the income tax for this amount
of money, and it is just for police officers. It
cannot be used, it is restricted just for cops. That's

(47:55):
not what they're trying to do. And that's what you're
talking about, Brian Thomas, and to the public something they
can do. There are other cities that have done it
because it's not what they're trying to do. They're worried
about the operating budget and this is fungible, and they're
trying to operate the street car and do all these
other little special programs and pay all these people all

(48:17):
this money. They're not interested in cops. They're trying to
pit me and you are people like myself who support
law enforcement. When we come out and we say vote
no on this, or we decide to pick up a
petition and collect signatures.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Oh, I like that. Let's hold on, Christopher, Let's elaborate
on a little bit. Let's pause and bring it right
back into this. I just want to ask you an
out loud question about where's the railroad money. One more
with Christopher Smith before we get to Ken Cober at
the bottom of this hour. First plumb type plumbing. It's
always vactation, very happy Wednesday to you're going to be
an especially happy Friday. I was just talking with Joe
Strecker about this and Christopher mentioned it out loud. I

(48:55):
was going to bring it up this morning before we
get back to Christopher smithing and with volume two of
the Smith Event this week, Signal nine will be on
the program. Eight a I'm on Friday. If you're not
familiar with Signal ninety nine, you need to be go
over to Facebook and just follow her. Former police officer
Carolyn will be joining the program. Outspoken and well connected
she is in terms of the information that she shares

(49:15):
to her followers, it's just it's it's hilarious stuff and
quite often it's a little painful to see the reality
of what's going on in the city. Back to Christopher, Hey,
where's the railroad money? Christopher? I thought we were going
to get a big wind fall from that billion dollar investment,
and what wouldn't that solve some of the financial problems?
And why do we need a tax increase if we
got all this new revenue coming in.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Christopher, Well, those are capital dollars, but it's a big
pot and I agree with you if there's no transparency
around those dollars, how they're being invested, how much money
is coming in. And this was my big issue too,
was the land, the three hundred miles all the way
to Tennessee that our forefathers had for us. There was

(49:58):
no other city I know of in the United States
of America, but definitely in the state of Ohio. Who
had three hundred miles of rail that we own, and
we were bringing in about thirty six million dollars and
it would have been forty six million before we clicked
our heels three times. It was a terrible transaction by
this mayor to sell our railroad. But here's going to

(50:19):
be the result of this, Brian Thomas. People are leaving Cincinnati.
Those who can get out are leaving. They're selling their
businesses that they don't want to pay the income tax,
and they are taking their residence outside of the city
of Cincinnati. So the reality of it is there are
going to be more and more people. Now, how do
I know this? How do I say that with certainty?

(50:42):
Because of the profession I'm a financial planner. I'm telling
you what my clients are telling you. They're saying, I'm
out of here. I cannot afford the property taxes, or
I don't want to pay the property taxes, or.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Maybe the crime or maybe it's crime too.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
It's crime too. But they're saying, listen, I would be
willing to pay. I just did a I'm looking I'm
thinking about a cliny. I just did a financial review
of cart and the client said to me, I would
be willing to pay the taxes if I got the service.
But the problem is the city is so dog gone dirty.
When they miss my trash or they don't pick up

(51:18):
my trash, they won't come back and get it. I've
got potholes all around me, tearing up my nice car,
my nice vehicle. Right. Or if I call the police,
I don't get the response I want. Not because it's
the police is because they will not invest in officers.
If I just move out into the county, I'm gonna

(51:38):
get better services. I'm either gonna pay lower taxes, right,
I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be safer. And so
what's happening is people are leaving those who can leave
relief this move that the Mayriorage making. Watch what I'm
telling you, population is gonna drop. It's not gonna go higher.
People are gonna say I can't afford it, and I'm

(51:59):
just gonna move so somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
People who are earnings, right, people who are earning a
living and paying income tax. You can't lose those people.
Wasn't that the point of gentrifying over the rine and
building all the urban hipster paradise places to live, so
they would bring in people who actually worked and paid
taxes in the city. Christopher, that's exactly that. That's the

(52:22):
sweet spot that you need to make it a more
welcome environment for people who are paying into the system.
It's a great point your client made. You know what,
I'm not getting a return on my taxpayer investment. I mean,
you'd be willing to pay taxes if it resulted in
something positive in your world. It's like going out and
buying something. You choose to purchase something because it's going
to benefit you in some way. You get value for

(52:42):
the money. You're not getting value for your tax payer
dollars in the city.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Correct. And then they'll say to me, well, Christopher, I'm
already sending my kid. To say that, I'm already sending
my kid's deceit. And so my kid is not in
the Cincinnati public school system, but sixty five percent of
my property are the public school system. Why am I
paying all these taxes? And then then if I then
those who are living in the county are frustrated because

(53:07):
they say, I work in the city and I'm paying
for earning tacks. I work for proper example, but I
can't vote for any of these people. I can't vote
any of them out. I have no control over it.
So what you're seeing is businesses are saying and my
heart goes out to Taste of Belgium who's filing for bankruptcy.
I don't know what their situation was, but all I
can tell you is the lack of foot traffic certainly

(53:29):
didn't help their situation. The crime levels in the downtown area,
on the banks and then over the Rhine didn't help them.
And to your point, Brian Thomas, all of those people
that have invested not one hundred thousand millions of dollars
in their housing, they have reached in OTR. There are
beautiful spaces that people have retired, their children have moved.

(53:51):
They said, I'm going to move into the OTR. I'm
going to create this really cool space. But guess what.
The crime is out of control, and they're in estments
that they've made are at risk, and you're going to
see those people say what you're talking about, I'm getting
the heck out of downtown. I thought this was going
to be cool. The city sold me a bill of goods.

(54:12):
They're raising my coxses, my property taxes, but they also
can't keep me safe. This increase, this increase, Brian Thomas
isn't going to make anybody safer. And there are people
out there, because my phone is already ringing, who are considering,
why don't we just drop a petition on them, stop
them at the gates, at the barbarians at the gates,

(54:33):
and tell them no more, no more, no more. But
what we don't want are cops pitting cops against the issue,
and that's what the mayor is trying to do. This
is not about cops for him. This is about all
of that other stuff that you're talking about, and cops
are the lowest in his mind that on the total
poll of stars what he's interested to pay for.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
And in terms of the businesses you're referring to, and
I think it's implicit in your comments, but I want
to say it straightforward out loud. Those businesses rely not
just on residents that live within the city. They rely
on people who want to come into the city to
spend money, who want to come into the city and
go to Ruby's or some of the other restaurants that
are down there that are great. But you know what,

(55:15):
who among us has not talked to a person who
said I am not going to the city anymore because
I'm afraid of the crime. I have heard that from
so many people. It's almost like the norm. Whether or
not it's an appropriate conclusion, because I like downtown and
I think there's some great stuff down there that it
is definitely there that is attractive to me. But you
know what lingering in the back of my mind is

(55:36):
the same thing. You know, I saw the beat down
on film, the you know from last year. I've seen
the crime statistics. Eleven year old gets a randomly shot.
That could be anybody. Doesn't have to be eleven year
old girl in a park. It could be literally anyone
who's the victim of random gunfire. Do you want to
be that person?

Speaker 6 (55:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Are you going to be subjected to that in Oh,
I don't know, Westchester or Anderson or Hyde Park. Probably not,
but it may very well happen high crime areas of
the city where a lot of businesses have invested a
lot of money hoping people will come in and spend it.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
They're so frustrating Brian Thomas is, then how do they respond.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
To those things?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Meaning, when the eleven year old girl has shot, how
do they respond to it. Right when the when the
when the citizens were beat up in the downtown, how
did they respond? They deserved it, they got what they
was coming to them. That is how city council and
this mayor responded to it. So the reality of it
is I feel bad for those businesses that are in
down town. I absolutely do. My heart goes out to this.

(56:34):
But I'm also not going to get on this radio
station in lie and say that Cincinnati is safe until
it is safe, until the reality of it is of
many of these neighborhoods have voted for this, They voted
for this mayor, they voted for this council. Elections have consequences.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Christopher Smithvan, you have consequences too. That's why I love you.
Have it on the program Smith Event Volume two find
the podcast for five Carecy dot com. You are my brother, indeed,
and you're more than welcome, and I thank you for
helping us. We're going to continue this conversation anwing, a
conversation about downtown Cincinnati and most notably the crime. Welcome
back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show and a
happy new year to Ken Cover FOP. President's great to

(57:11):
have you back on the show. Sir, Hey, good morning, Brian,
Thanks for having me. Your reaction matter have to have
Purvol's proposal to increase the property to increase the income
tax in order to deal with public safety, but a
lot of other things. He said, new revenue will allow
us to fund and further prioritize public safety investments and
support our police and fire in a historic way. Do

(57:33):
you really need money to come out loud and start
talking up and supporting the police verbally and in public
and encouraging the citizens of the city to work with
police as opposed to reject them and consider them all
to be an evil force. I mean that to me,
right there would go a long way our elected officials
out loud showing support for you and the members of
law enforcement.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
Now, you know, I think that there's this misnomer that
throwing money at a problem somehow equates to supporting public safety.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
And it just doesn't.

Speaker 9 (58:04):
Money's not going to solve this no matter how much
money you throw at it, and raising taxes is just
not going to help anything. It's just I you know,
it's following what this Future's Commission said, which is a
bunch of CEOs from downtown that have a stake in
this play in the city that thinks that it's going

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to be a good idea to raise taxes and instead
of looking at the budget and seeing, well, is there
places that we can cut stuff if we want to
fund things more, and instead the simple answers, well.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
We're just going to tax people more.

Speaker 9 (58:37):
People are tired of being tax I was looking at
some social media stuff this morning online, and you can't
find one person that supports this.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
It's nonsense.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
I hope council members take heed of this and do
the right thing and decide to vote this down.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Well, one thing is for certain, if they do support
an increase in the income tax, it will be something
that the voters in the city will get to to
approve or reject as a concept. And I'm just wondering
how the voters are in the city of Cincinnati feel
about having their income tax raised. Ken.

Speaker 9 (59:09):
Yeah, well, I mean I'm not too hopeful about the
voters of the city, especially considering how this election just
worked out. But that goes for Hamilton County as well.
You know, when we're seeing that the law law and
order judges that are not being re elected. So I
don't have a whole lot of hope for what's going
on in this county right now.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah, well that's going to make things worse. Christopher Smithman
said a lot of his financial planning clients moving out
of the City of Cincinnati for all these reasons, crime,
property taxes, income tax and not getting return on the
investment for the taxpayers that are a taxpayer or for
the dollars that they spend in taxes. So it's going
to only going to exacerbate. If your prediction is true.
It follows Christopher's and that is a bad, bad thing

(59:48):
on a going forward basis for basically city and Hamilton County. Pause,
bring Ken back. Talk about some of the things Provall suggested,
like accepting the help from the Ohio Have Care CD
talk station. Very happy Wednesday to you. After the top
of the hour news we're gonna hear from Jack out
ofton with a big picture. I always enjoy that. Currently
talking with that FOP president Kenkob represent the sin St

(01:00:10):
Police Department Union and a Hello, I just got a
text from a guy I know. You know story career
in law enforcement. Retired from the Sin Sint Police Department
after multiple years, John Newsom went on to be a
Warren County Sheriff. He said, tell Ken hello and then
ask him if there are any performance measures regarding the
Ohio State Patrol working in the city. Mayor, I have
to have pur vault. Yesterday, when talking about this income

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tax increase, he said also that he intends to continue
the city's current public safety initiatives, like extending the partnership
with the Ohio State Highway Patrol. Now, when this whole
crime thing hit the fan last summer and fall, and
they know through this five point four million allocation, part
of the concern from people was, wait a second, the

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governor has offered you thirty days, every single day, every
month of the year, assistance across a broad array of
law enforcement. But the mayor only chose to take him
up on two days a week or two days what
was it a month or a week and then four
days he didn't take the entire package. Do we know
did Ohio State Highway Patrol's presence, as limited as it was,

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have any impact on crime? Did it help at all?
And if they extend this partnership, do we have these
metrics that can show yes, this is worth doing, Although
it does sound like it's worth doing. From my perspective
just on its face, Yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:01:28):
Mean it's certainly worth doing. I know they did have
a lot of success, especially using their helicopter from people
that were fleeing if we didn't have a drone operator
available to be able to have the helicopter there that
were able to assist in making arrest.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
So it's certainly worth it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
And the interesting part is I talked to Andy Wilson,
who's the director of the High Department of Public Safety,
which oversees all of these entities for the state. I
talked to him yesterday because you know, as we heard
the mayor talk about how that they were going to
extend this relationship.

Speaker 12 (01:01:57):
Of course I pick up then.

Speaker 9 (01:01:58):
And I call him and I go, what does this
look like? And he did say in fact that yes,
he goes, I've talked to Chief Henny. He goes, he's
extremely excited about expanding this. He goes, I'm not so
sure yet exactly what that means. And of course, you know,
I was a bit apprehensive because we certainly saw uh

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in September, you know, when they offered all these things,
and I was in these meetings, and you know, the
mayor immediately pushed back and gave, you know, seven different
reasons why they couldn't do this, and then of course
in the twenty third hour when they were getting ready
to start, they mixed it. And then they went back
a week later and said, Okay, well we'll do some things.

(01:02:39):
But to your point, I'm going to get a hold
of the director today and see if they have any
metrics that they can provide of because they keep stats
for everything. It would be nice to know, Okay, what
is our even though it's technically not costing the city anything,
it's costing taxpayers. You have to have these troopers down here,
But what is what's the return on investment? I think
that's important for people to know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I agree with that, and I guess we are still
down a lot of police officers, at least in terms
of the contingent in the city of Cincinnati. One of
the efforts was we need to hire more police. We
need to do lateral hires because it takes a while
to get a recruit class through and get them up
and running. We wouldn't need the Ohigo State Highway Patrol
if we had enough police officers to start with. I mean,

(01:03:21):
isn't that the core of the problem, right? Now insufficient
police officer power.

Speaker 11 (01:03:26):
Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
I mean they just they authorized a class of thirty laterals.
We have a class of seven that's starting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Seven three weeks to my next question, exactly what I
was going to ask you, Let's say we had this
fund that this new income tax or this whatever pile
of money would be exclusively allocated for the purpose of
hiring new police officers and boosting the ranks of the
CINCINNTI Police Department. Can we even do that in this

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anti police environment created by all these left wing nut
jobs which made policing, which used to be a laudable
and a lofty and well respected profession, which has reduced
it now to something that no one wants to do.
So is there any way to overcome the challenge of
even hiring people?

Speaker 9 (01:04:10):
Well, the answer right now is I don't think there's
a way to overcome it. I mean, we saw what
happened back in July and August and September after the
fourth and Elm brawl that occurred, you know, where you
had investigators that were being ordered by city officials to
sign criminal charges when the prosecutor's officers they weren't warranted
who wants to work in those conditions. And then now

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on top of it, now they're talking about raising taxes.
Who wants to come into work in the city of
Cincinnati when you're going to pay more taxes. I mean,
these are all things that, whether they believe it or not,
are having an impact on being able to hire police officers.
And we've seen this. Now we do have a metric.
Let's talk about metrics. They authorized thirty lateral recruits and

(01:04:53):
we got seven. What's that tell you? That tells you
everything you need to know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
It's scary right there. Yeah, I mean for the people
who hate the police, you know, mission accomplished congratulation on
undermining what used to be a respected profession and bringing
about a lot of crime in our cities for want
of police officers. That's a Paul and Ken, it really is.
And I'm glad you brought that up because that's been
my sort of looming question in the back of my mind.

(01:05:18):
You know, if we're I mean, is there enough money
in terms of salary that we could offer someone to
become a police officer? If you, I mean you had
a figure in mind that could overcome this challenge, we
got thirty open spots we're hiring. Is there a dollar
figure associated with that would say, Okay, we're going to
not kind of seven, we're gonna have a full contingent
of thirty. In fact, we're gonna have to turn away
fifty people because we don't have enough space or money

(01:05:39):
for them. What's the figure? If money is the object.

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
I'm sure there is a figure, but I can tell
you apparently the City of Cincinnati it's not there, because
when you're only getting seven out of thirty, I would
say that the money's not there at least yet. And
you know, we'll see what happens. They talking to the
mayor talked about yesterday about all these historic investments and
public safety over twenty twenty six or we're going to
see what that is because we're going to be negotiating

(01:06:04):
a contract at the end of the year, so we're
going to see just how his historic the investments are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Joe's comment, that's going to be fun. Ken Kober, can
you we'll pause, we'll bring it back because I'm going
to ask you about this camera situation over in the
West End, because apparently after parlwall Is waiting to hear
from the since ain't the talk Station six fifty one
pitch about krcity Talk Station FP president Ken Cober on
the program talking about crime in the downtown Cincinnati and
the problems associated with on the heels of the matter.

(01:06:33):
After have Parawall getting sworn in within ten seconds of
his statement starking about increasing the income tax in the
city for public safety, along with affordable housing and a
whole litany of other things. How about one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars that they allocated last September for cameras
over in the West End, cameras that had been promised
to the friends over in the West End. Since let's

(01:06:54):
see here, Dominic Davis got shot and killed in twenty
twenty three, that's when they're first talking about installing cameras.
Then we have the death of a kreener we read
eleven year old killed in the park very close to
where Dominic was gotten down, and still no cameras. One
hundred and fifty thousand dollars is allocated, and yet we
don't even know if the cameras are up, and neither
does the mayor. The mayor said yesterday that since a

(01:07:16):
police department does have cameras in the West End, but
doesn't know how many or how many still need to
be installed. Quote. CPD is doing the work to identify
those numbers, and as soon as we he and the
mouse in his pocket have them, we will make them
available to you. I think that's a fun fact he
probably should have had when he was sworn in ken Kober.
What is with the cameras? How does it take so long?

(01:07:37):
And I know they don't necessarily prevent crime, but they
go a long way to solving crime and provide some
people a measure of comfort. What's going on with this?
How much control do you have over where those cameras
are and how many there are?

Speaker 9 (01:07:49):
Well, here's the interesting part about this. So the city
has the police Department has access between city owned cameras,
other entities that own cameras that they give the city
access to that maintains them. The police department has access
to roughly eight hundred cameras throughout the entire city. They
also have two people that are responsible for installing and

(01:08:12):
maintaining these cameras, two people for eight hundred cameras. The
other interesting part of this is in order for them
to be able to go do maintenance on these cameras.
To install cameras, they have to have this is a
big surprise, a bucket truck to be able to go
do these things. The police department does not have a
bucket truck and they can only get access to a

(01:08:33):
bucket truck if another city department says, yeah, there's one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Available for you to use.

Speaker 9 (01:08:38):
So this sounds a whole lot like what we saw
that occurred over the summer where they decided, hey, we're
gonna do all these walking patrols, and when they were
told by Chief Fiji, we don't have the personnel to
fill this, their response was figure it out. Oh now,
so this is the same thing that happened. You have
politicians that go, this sounds really good. We're gonna go
in front of a camera. We're gonna say we'renna allocate

(01:08:59):
on hund fifty thousand dollars that we're going to put
cameras up, and they're going to do this. Well, if
you don't have the means to be able to do
these things, how do you expect us to get done
the problem that you have?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
And it takes so damn It seems like such a
simple thing to accomplish Kent really does. I mean, everybody
and his brother's got a camera on their house anymore,
ring doorbell. I know that's probably not an adequate types
camera solution, but this is not some sort of multi
billion dollar modern technology that you got to acquire. This
has been existing out there in the world for a
long time, and it seems to be a simple manner

(01:09:33):
to put them up and give the voters and the
residents what they have been promised for two and a
half years.

Speaker 9 (01:09:41):
Yeah, without a doubt. So you decide we're going to
invest one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cameras, but
we don't have the equipment for them to install them.
We don't have the people to go out and maintain
install these cameras. But yet they expect us to get done.
I mean, that's that's silliness to think that this is
going to happen. We know that a politician would never
just say something to try to appease the community.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Oh no, we know that they.

Speaker 9 (01:10:04):
Would never just throw money at a problem. But unfortunately,
in this case, that's exactly what it seems like has happened.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Well. Among the safety plan that he had mentioned permanently
implementing walking patrols in the city that requires the manpower
that you said does not exist. Building onto the city's
bike patrols. That seems to me to present the exact
same problem. Investing in technology like license plate readers, so
the Sincini Police Department's drone and the Sinsi Police Martment's
drone program that requires folks to monitor and read the

(01:10:30):
data that's coming in, assuming they even put those up.
I understand that's like the flock camera kind of deal.
And then finally investing in programs that had proven to
mitigate crime. I don't even know what that means, but
it sounds like the vast majority of the proposals from
the mayor require a lot more police officers. And again,
going back to your point, if you can't get an
open wide offer for thirty spots filled, you only get

(01:10:51):
seven applicants, you can't accomplish the proposed goals.

Speaker 9 (01:10:58):
Yeah, I mean, this is the problem. All these things
sound fantastic. Let's have walking patrols. Where are you gonna
put the walking patrols? Where are you gonna put them?
Are you gonna put them in high crime areas? And
tell these officers are gonna pair them up and tell
them to go out and do proactive work to arrest criminals.
If you're gonna say that, you're gonna do it and
you're gonna support them, I think it's a great idea.
But if it's gonna be like what we saw this
past summer where they said, oh, well, we're gonna put

(01:11:20):
people on Vine and Main Street between Central Parkway and
Liberty where no data suggests that there's been an increase
in crime. Everything's been in north Over the Rhine. But
all we're gonna do is walk around because we're going
to protect all the three CDC businesses. That doesn't make
much good sense, but that's exactly what we saw. They

(01:11:40):
actually went as far as to say, well, we gotta
have walking patrols in Washington Park. Well, there hasn't been
an increase in crime in Washington Park, so why are
we going to do this. While we're gonna do it
because the marises we're gonna do it doesn't make any sense.
This is the problem that I've had with the mayor
all along is stay out of policing. You're not a
police officer, you're not a law enforcement professional. Never have
been let the police department run the police department, and

(01:12:03):
maybe you'll see things change. But until that happens, we're
going to see a lot of in twenty twenty six
and we solw twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Five, and I'll add along and double down on my
earlier comment. It doesn't cost a dime for the mayor
and the members of the Cincinna City Council to come
out and go around the various communities and make regular
public service announcements that we should be supporting the Cincinnati
Police and stop demonizing them, work with them, make phone calls,
hand in tips, help control the crime in your neighborhood

(01:12:31):
by working cooperative with the cincinn Police Department. That's a
simple statement. I just made it up off the top
of my head, and I think that might go a
long way without additional tax revenue.

Speaker 9 (01:12:39):
Can without a doubt, adding tax revenue is not going
to help anything. Like I said, you can try to
throw money out a problem. Money's not going to solve
a problem. It's just not going to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Now when you can't get people to be police officers.
FOP President Cancobra on behalf of my entire listening audience
and my family, to you and every member of law enforcement.
God bless each and every one of you. I hope
this year is a better for all of us, and
I wish you all the best. Seven oh six Bitty
five Kersee de Talk Station. Very happy Wednesday. Action packed
Wednesday here on the Pitty five Kerse Morning Show, packed

(01:13:11):
with guests and today I always look forward to for
a variety of reasons, not the least of which is
right now the big picture with Jack advit in the
brilliance of Jack adad and coming through every Wednesday. At
this time it is appointment listening and I hear from
listeners all the time. Jack, they love your commentary. Welcome back,
my friend, in a very happy new year to you
and your beautiful bride, Ainsley.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Shin Jackson, that's what you're call me. Thank you, Happy
now and happy new year everybody. We're planning to talk
about the completely opposite way Democrats and Republicans see people,
But first, Brian, can I offer a few thoughts about Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Love to hear him. Jack.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
There is a legitimate dispute, even among Trump supporters, about
a president's powers as commander in chief under Article two
of the Constitution yet. But remember, as I know you do,
Brian Congress under Article one has not declared war since
Pearl Harbor eighty four years ago. Harry Truman, a Democrat,

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relied on the UN, not Congress to fight the so
called police action in Korea that killed fifty four thousand
Americans over three years. Lyndon Johnson, another Democrat, was knee
deep in Vietnam by the time Congress passed not a
declaration of war but relatively the Gulf of tom Kin Resolution.

(01:14:33):
The Vietnam War killed at least fifty eight thousand Americans,
closer to Venezuela in every sense. Republican George H. W.
Bush the Elder invaded Panama with twenty four thousand US
troops on the ground, extracted and prosecuted Panama's Manuel Noriega,

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and installed an opposition leader, all without seeking Congressional authorzation
and with the courts upholding his actions. Noriega had been
accused is so familiar. He'd been accused of drug trafficking
and threatening America's interest in the Panama Canal. For Senior
called his invasion operation just cause There's more. Democrat Bill Clinton,

(01:15:20):
with authorization from NATO not Congress bombed the hell out
of Slobodon Belosovich in Yugoslavia. Slobo only gave up when
Clinton threatened without Congress to put US troops quote back
on the table. Then yet another Democrat, a former teacher
of constitutional law, you figure knew something about this stuff.

(01:15:43):
Barack Obama launched more than five hundred and forty separate
drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, killing soldiers and civilians,
including American citizens. And that's not including strikes in the
undeclared war zones of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya, all

(01:16:04):
without a peep from big mouth congressional Democrats. Last, and
by all measures least, Joe Biden or his auto pen
raised a bounty on the head of Nicholas Maduro. Good
old Joe would never kill anyone. He just hires somebody
to do it. And hiring somebody to kill an head

(01:16:25):
of state probably is an active war. Fellow Democrats once
again said nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Folks.

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
My point is that undeclared wars for seventy five years
have been made waged when it was still at least
the possibility of bipartisan authorization. Now in twenty twenty six.
No one who follows politics, certainly nobody in your brilliant audience.
Brian believes Democrats would ever back any action by Donald J.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
As recently as a year ago, I would have bet
against Senator Chuck Schumer selling out Israel to Hamas. Yet
the Senate Minority leader cannot or trying to retain power,
will not even back Trump peace agreements in the Middle East.
So where does that leave us in a constitutional mess?

(01:17:17):
The president is not only commander in chief. Article two,
Section three of the Constitution also requires that presidents take
care to faithfully execute the laws, including drug laws allegedly
broken by narco terrorists, as Bush did against Noriega. So yes,

(01:17:37):
Congress has the power to declare war, but the need
to declare war is still debated, even under the nineteen
seventy three War Powers Resolution. Personally, Brian, I believe in
the Constitution yet, but I also believe the Constitution is
not a suicide pact barring any possibility of consensus of compromise.

(01:18:01):
I do not believe in paralysis. Ultimately, I believe in
the ballot box, as Maduro and Putin and Jijiungping do not.
If voters disagree with an American president about these disputed issues.
They can vote for a new Congress every two years,
including this year, and a new president every four years. Meantime,

(01:18:22):
the inability, the unwillingness of Congress to act at least
when a Republican is in power, I believe stems from
something other than the Constitution. Congress is driven by the
entirely different way Republicans and Democrats see people. So maybe
we can talk about that next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
But I did want to pass along to you or
my comment in response to judgment of paul A Tana's column,
which I'm going to talking with him about a day
thirty and not surprisingly the same subject matter, the extra
constitutional waging of war in spot what the Constitution say?
And you know? I said, you know, I asking him
sort of rhetorically. Are you and I merely dinosaurs with
our respect for the Constitution? I said, I speak with

(01:19:03):
so many people on the topic of war and always
end up runing into the same conclusion decades as you
just went through, of unchecked consequence, free unilateral decision making
on matters of war now serve as a legal justification
for further unilateral decisions. I even suggested to it. It's
almost like the concept of waiver estopel or latches, you know,
if you let something go long enough that you can't

(01:19:25):
assert the law as you know, as a vehicle to
stop that from happening. Again. No, we've been doing this
for so long you've waived your right to make the argument.
You get back to mazag day and in fifty three
Ellen Days seventy three you mentioned nor Jegan eighty nine.
You could go through a whole bunch of others. I mean,
even the Bay of Pigs. Was that an authorized military
force to overthrow castor after we helped them, you know,

(01:19:46):
win in Cuba, don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
And by the way, Brian, in fairness, I didn't include
Ronald Reagan and Grenada exactly. Of course, a much more
limited action.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
But I'm sorry, go ahead, now, you and I could
put our minds together and talk about a whole bunch
of actions along those same lines. And that's an excellent
additional point. It just says that all the you know,
the designated strikes in these foreign lands with missiles, as
you mentioned, with Obama and everybody else seemed to doing.
And I concluded with it seems that Congressional in action.
In other words, ignoring the Constitution is perhaps the desired,

(01:20:19):
accepted norm across the political spectrum. The Democrats do it
when they're in power. The Republicans scream and wale and
moan about the Constitution, yet do nothing by way of
congressional action or anything else to stop it from happening.
And then look who put the bounty on Medoro last year,
Joe Biden? Was it twenty five million or fifty million dollars?
I mean, if there's a bounty on someone's head, doesn't

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that mean you expect someone to go and collect the
bounty after grabbing the head and bringing it forth. Who's
going to do that? Nobody but the American military is
going to enter into a foreign country and grab the leader.
Yet there it was the dangling carrot of a bounty
out there. So we make good on it through the
Trump administration, and they scream and yell about it, and
yet you don't see really anything happening in respond. So
it's sort of this in action in it allows for

(01:21:04):
the expedient mechanism of dealing with what you talked about
that you know, you don't want the Constitution to just,
you know, turn us into this easy sitting target, but
it is still there. The authority rest within Congress. I
just think they prefer it this way because it's well
they have to face the voters. They may get voted
out of office if they do vote in favor of military

(01:21:25):
action or against military action. They don't want to have
to deal with it. They wash their hands of it,
blaming it Trump or whoever the sitting president is, and
go about their merry business.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
I always feel, as I bet you Drew Twopell, when
we're talking about the good Judge Neapolitano, that I'm back
in law school, and I certainly don't want to disagree
with the professor. It's hard enough just to try to
answer his questions. But a few thoughts. Judge Napolitano, who's
probably about my age, doesn't remember Jefferson sending the Marines

(01:21:56):
to the shores of Tripa, Le Libya, to free America
and fight Barbary pirates. But presumably he would have opposed
that two hundred years ago, not long after the Monroe
Doctrine was propelled by President James Monroe. And I assume
that Judge Depolitano was against the idea of refusing to
let Europeans colonize our hemisphere as today Cuba, Russia and

(01:22:20):
Red China and Iran. I have tried installing surrogates in Venezuela,
and that's what we put a stop to. You know
the thing, it seems to be Brian and maybe we
can talk about this next week. There are certain people
who remind me of my old friend, the ancient Greek
philosopher Zeno, who can prove to you why it's impossible

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to move from point A to point B. I won't
give away the answer to that famous riddle, but we cannot,
as I say, paralyze ourselves. And I'm not sure that
I agree with the premise of what you're saying. That
the Constitution is clear on the president not having the
power to act militarily. I doe with the idea that Congress,
not necessarily with conscious deliberation, but obviously setting a pattern,

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do not oppose presidents when they simply don't want to
get involved.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Let's pause, will bring Jack back. He had a comment
or two that we didn't get to yet. How democrats
see people. Will pause, bring Jack Avidan back with the
big picture. We'll call it volume two. This morning, First
Foreign Exchange your premier European and Asian Imported Automotive Automotive
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nineteen fifty five. KRCD talks Agent right Times with Jack
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Democrats see people, just real quick, the Monroe doctor. And
that wasn't a legal document, it wasn't a treaty, it
wasn't a statute. It was a foreign policy statement by
President Monroe. Which, of course, if you want to agree
with and follow through with that foreign policy statement involving
matters of war, you might expect some measure of congressional involvement.
But now you've got the Donro doctor where he's trying

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to shore up this hemisphere and keep the Chinese out
and keep the Russians out. I understand the concern and
the predicate for that, but you know, it is a
foreign policy statement. He is responsible for foreign policy. But
along with that comes well taxpayer dollars and military resources
and all the things that go along with you know,
establishing and following through with any given foreign policy statements.
I'd had to say that out loud, Jack, because we

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talk about the Monroe doctrine is if it's almost part
of the Constitution, but it never was.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Big Dohn is acting on the don Rohe doctrine, and
if Congress doesn't like it, they can act. Expoters, of course,
can act in November, and I'm afraid they might in
a way that we don't like, but we'll see. Anyway,
Let's move on from war and talk about something really important.
Tis the season for losing weight, or at least for
resolving to do that so we feel better and also

(01:24:47):
so people see us differently. Let's consider this in the
context of politics, the very different way democrats and Republicans
see people. You and I and most folks who tune
intend to agree about most things. Where constitutional conservators and
libertarians many of us are Trump supporters, mega populists. Those

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are not just labels. They define how we see the world.
While we may differ sharply on certain issues, including Venezuela,
we embrace what I call the American idea that power
tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Therefore, like
the Founders, we demand a government that protects the God

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given rights of individuals and allows us to pursue happiness
and prosperity as we see fit. So long as we
don't infringe on the rights of others. We believe in
bottom up government. In sharp contrast, today's big government socialists
see individuals very differently as members of their collective. In

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his inaugural speech, New York's new mayor, Zoran Mamdani just
promised to replace quote the rigidity of rugged individual dualism
with the warmth of collectivism ene and in New York
if he gets his way. Democrats claim they care about people,
especially needy, downtrodden people victims, but they do not seek

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to empower them. Take education. Democrats in power not students
and parents, but teacher unions, which benefit from keeping children illiterate.
The worse their test scores, the more taxpayer funding they demand.
In Baltimore, a Democrat run city, as most big cities
now are, including Cincinnati and Dayton, public schools spend more

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than twenty one thousand dollars per pupil. Teachers make on
average between seventy two and ninety nine thousand dollars plus
gold plated pensions, and yet the overwhelming majority of students
in Baltimore cannot read or do math. When the schools
push them through graduation. Anyway, the kids lack basic skills

(01:27:00):
to support themselves, so as Democrats intended all along, these
students will be wards of the state, and Democrats will
rake off the top a hefty percentage of the welfare
spending students received throughout life because the Democrat collective collects
campaign contributions, kickbacks, crony contracts for donors, and outright bribes.

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Nancy Pelosi's father was mayor of Baltimore. That's where Nancy
learned the racket. That public servant and her husband Paul
are now worth more than four hundred million dollars. We
could connect the dots in the same way when it
comes to big government spending on healthcare, housing, food, the
entire life of Julia. That's what you remember Obama called

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his cradle to graves spending plan for voters rich and poor,
who were thereby made totally dependent on totalitarian government. Folks
think of the irony, the despicable irony Democrats not that
long ago, with a party of slavery Africans being kidnapped
and shipped here so they could work. Now, Democrats support

(01:28:12):
millions of illegal immigrants invading this country, so they can
live off the collective representative. Ilan Omar's net worth has
jumped from approximately zero when our Somalian family were granted
asylum to thirty million dollars with their husband today. Is
it coincidental that fraudulent government funds for Somali preschools and

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other programs in Minnesota total more than nine billion dollars
in counting. Democrats, who used to shackle slaves, now enslaved voters,
from illiterate inner city students without fathers, to academics enslaved
by liberal orthodoxy, to so called journalists who have to
tow the liberal line, to multinational business owners who defend

(01:28:57):
so called free trade that ships vital industries off to
communist China with its starvation wages and terras on American imports. Brian,
the essence of Democrat politics is to dehumanize individuals and
make them abjectly dependent on the state. For now, I

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can come on your show and talk about this, But
what will happen if Democrats win Congress this November and
the White House in twenty twenty eight and America returns
to the British model of outlawing free speech, which is
what they're doing right now. Look, Republicans are not perfect,
and when we champion the American idea, when we resolve

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as our founders did to protect individual rights and responsibilities,
America can still lead the entire world into a golden age,
including those dictatorships that are attacking America, as Maduro did
with the aid of Cuba, Russia, Iran, and communist China.
Until that happens, it's not enough to celebrate seventeen seventy six.

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We need to speak out, donate, and work. You do
this every morning. So what do you say, my friend?

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
I say, There's not a word I could utter that
can improve upon what you just got done saying. And
I'm going to encourage my listeners to grab a hold
of that podcast link at fifty five kres dot com
and share Jack's words with your friends. Jack Atherton as
always profoundly brilliant. I love you man. Happy New Year.
We'll do this again next Wednesday with another big picture

(01:30:33):
and I can't thank you for being on my program.
Can't wait. Thank you, Brian, Happy New Year again. Seven
twenty six ifty five k SIT Talk Stations. Well, you
got a lot of work to do this year, and
I know we can help out my listening. Andy can
certainly help out by working with AFP provides all the
guidance you need to get involved in politics. Welcome back, Donovan.
It's a new year, and a happy new year to you,
sir Brian.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
It's going to be a big year, and I'm so
excited to be back at it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Well, let's yeah, and I know we're gonna be talking
about the twenty twenty six election a lot this year.
Of course, we've got opportunities here. I just a little
concerned about the typical norm, which is the party in
power loses seats in the House and in the Senate,
and I'm not sure if that's going to happen this year,
but we do have that to face. But I'm a
little concerned about this because one of the topics on
the list you wanted to talk about was not returning

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COVID era subsidies. Of course, I just had a conversation
by Cincinnati's budget with the former vice mayor of the
City of Cincinnati. One of the problems we're having in
the city is because the covid money dried up and
they don't have it to hang their hat on anymore.
So they got a big hole in their budget. We
weren't supposed to be relying on that. Beyond the outbreak
of COVID. It's long since gone. And they're still talking

(01:31:41):
about subsidies.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Well, yeah, and these in particular, are these Obamacare subsidies
right that were enacted that funnel three hundred billion dollars. Yeah,
not to patients, not to actually bring other premiums, but
to the health insurance companies who are lobbying like is
you can imagine, Brian, to.

Speaker 8 (01:32:01):
Keep this in place.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
And for some baffling reason, right, Democrats are continuing their
fifteen year march towards saying, if you just give us
a little more time, Obamacare will work. It's not working, Brian,
and we need to keep Republicans from signing onto this
thing and trying to help make it happen because it's
broken and it's making our healthcare premiums cost so much more.

(01:32:23):
But fraud, wasted abuse too, Brian. I'm a bit fired
up about this one because it hit us instantly at
the beginning of the new year. But you know, fraud, waste,
and abuse is one of the things they say, Well, hey,
what if we root some of that out and we
really make sure the money goes to the patients. This time,
I point to usaid, there's not enough fraud, waste and
abuse protections you could have put into place on that
corrupt slush fund to make it work for whatever intended purposes.

(01:32:47):
It has the same things here with these COVID subsidies.
There's not enough fraud, waste and abuse protections you could
put in place. I just don't trust the Federal Garment
to be able to do it right, to make sure
that that money actually goes for its intended purposes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
It's just bad. Well, I mean, we've been struggling with
this whole concept of funneling money to non governmental organizations
and then not doing any follow up work to see
if what they promised to do is actually been done.
That's one element, But when you talk about USA, it's
not just the fraud, waste and abuse at the end,
but it's also the motivation to give anyone the money
in the first place. No, I don't want to fund

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shrimp on treadmill research in China. I mean, what the hell?
Who chose that and who decided that was a worthy
thing to spend tax payer dollars on. But it's just
a long or one of a long, long list of
stupid programs we're paying for, and whether or not they
bore any fruit seems immaterial. The idea that it even
started in the first place is batcrap insane.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Well, yeah, and the same thing with these Biden Earic
covid subsidies that Greg Landsmen congresson. Greg Landsman is very
likely going to vote on extending for three more years tomorrow.
We don't need this money going to the insurance companies
that annually jack up premium prices and do nothing, nothing,
Brian to actually bring down the cost of healthcare. They're
incentivized with this program to enroll people who don't even

(01:34:02):
need health insurance. Right, we need to just end those
programs and focus on policies that are going to empower patients,
for programs like HSA's that are going to bring price transparency.
There's a lot that can be done, and it doesn't
involve just shoveling billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars over
to the insurance companies continue a failed Obamacare Biden Covid
era program.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Well, honestly, all those subsidies do is mask the failure
of Obamacare. The premium dollars cover the money that goes
out the door to cover claims. That's an obvious thing.
It's the way the private insurance market because they so
many people who are sick, and on Obamacare, the expenditures
goes through the roof. But if you give someone a subsidy,

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it masks the actual cost of that by hiding the
increase in premium that would necessarily follow a massive influx
of claims on the program. I mean, it's just the
whole thing was designed to fail from the get go.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Well, you know, and that's funny you say that, because
that is the we were saying that fifteen years ago.
Right when Obamacare is going in, it is to break,
it is to build a house of cards, because you
know this, right, Progressives Democrats, the ends justify the means
for them in this case, right, And so making people
pay more in premiums, hurting families with rising costs to

(01:35:19):
in that march towards a single payer health care system
is what they're in the pursuit of here.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
And if we extend the subsidies.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
We're just further fueling that dysfunction and broken policy making
that's going to lead us to that eventual conclusion. We
don't have to go there, though, Brian. We can turn
the page, rechart the course, and actually enact policies that
we know as conservatives are going to unleash abundance in
the healthcare space again, most importantly by bringing down costs
and empowering patients.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Yeah. Well, reducing the regulatory burden on the healthcare industry
generally speaking might go a long way to reduce overall
costs of health care generally. But who am I to
say on that? Moving over to candidates, we had talked
about some of the state wide candidates you were in
that AFP was supporting going into the November election. How
about Zach Haynes.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
Yeah, really excited to break the news on this one
here this morning with you. We're going to have a
larger announcement probably next week with a few more races
around the state. But I feel like I come on
your show, Brian, and I tell your listeners about all
these other races we're working on in like Toledo and
Cleveland and Columbus, and we've got a real winner here
in southwest Ohioai, Zach Haynes. We're excited to endorse him.
He's running for State Senate in the seventh Senate district

(01:36:29):
that's going to be current State Senator Steve Wilson's being
term limitted out. It covers upper north East Hamilton County
and all of Warren County. I don't know if you've
had an opportunity to talk with Zach before, but when
he came to our office side down talk with him
about some of the things we need to do to
move Ohio in a big, bull transformational way. I was

(01:36:50):
blown away with his passion, energy, and I think he's
going to be a real fighter should the voters decide
to send him to Columbus later this year.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Well, I know Joe Strucker, executed Executive producer, will work
hard to get Zach on the program to talk about that,
and I appreciate your endorsement of him and pivoting over.
One more thing to talk about. V v Ramaswami, of course,
currently running unopposed. He's already received the statewide Republican endorsement.
I think that's a lock for V. Vague he has
selected a running mate. What do you feel about Rob McCauley.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
So, actually, personally, I've known Rob McCauley since he was
a state representative in northwest Ohio.

Speaker 7 (01:37:24):
My wife and I lived up there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
Rob is a phenomenal conservative. He is somebody who, through
the years that I've known him, being a legislator in
both the House and the Senate and most recently the
Senate President, fight to lower taxes. In fact, his chamber
was the chamber moved that introduced an amendment to the
state budget that made ohioly flat tax state. That was
the Senate Chamber led by him currently, that got that

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into the budget and made it happen. Lowering taxes, cutting
red tape, curbing spending, empowering families with school choice. Rob
McCauley is the true I mean, he's the real deal.
If you get a meet him, you get to talk
to him, you'll realize that very quickly. And there were
a lot of good folks floated to be of a
Vakes running mate, but I think Rob McCauley is top tier.

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And one is going to be the kind of guy,
right if the VEK is that visionary who's going to
chart a bold course for the state. Rob the kind
of guy who understands what it's going to take to
work with the legislature to get that agenda passed and through,
which isn't always a guaranteed thing, even in a super
majority Republican state like Ohio. So I'm really excited about Rob,

(01:38:32):
not just as a friend of mine, but as somebody
who I've seen legislate. I've seen sat in interested party
meetings in Columbus with legislators and lobbyists. He's a real
deal and Vivke's lucky to have him.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
As I pointed out when we started talking again, Donovan,
Americans for Prosperities provides an opportunity for the listeners to
really get engaged and get involved. Call to action, Donovan,
where do we need to go to keep up with
things if we want to help out.

Speaker 11 (01:38:57):
Buckeye Blueprint dot Com.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
We're going to have a lot of updates of Buckeye
Blueprint dot Com over the next few weeks as we
get things fired up for this year.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
It's a big year.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
We're going to need as many people as we can
to lockshields with us and help make this happen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Be part of the solution. Buckeye Blueprint dot Com work
with AFP Donald O'Neil. I enjoy our discussions. I'll look
forward to next week with another one. Keep up the
great working again to you and everyone at AFP. A
very happy new year you as well.

Speaker 7 (01:39:19):
Brian, take care.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Seventh thirty nine here fifty five care see detalk station
Coming up next, Steve Belzo, Cleima County Veteran Services is
gonna talk about little veteran related needs. Tons of services
offered by the Clement County Veteran Services and every county
has one. Steve Belzo is with the Clermont County Veteran Services.
They do a fantastic job and Steve is always a
pleasure having in the studio. Man. Welcome back and a
happy near to you and everybody else at Clemon County

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Veteran Services.

Speaker 12 (01:39:41):
Brian brother, thanks for what you do for us, and
it is. It's a good new year, so we'll try
it off the ground. We're not pushing up daisies. We
may complain about small ailments, but yet we're still breathing.

Speaker 11 (01:39:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Yeah, I know, I'm telling you off area here. It's
the seventh of January, and I feel like we've already
is enough profoundly impactful news stories for like six months
worth of life, right right?

Speaker 12 (01:40:07):
Actually, yeah, we have news commentators that are speed reading
right now after are teleprompters. There's so much.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
Well, there's always though, something positive in all of the mix,
as you just pointed out, so that we're gonna be
positive about going into the new year. So you run
into little, you know, the lemons that life will hand,
you make lemonade out of them, or just search around
for something else that is positive, and you'll at least
have that to look at and be thankful for, which
is what I try to do as I live my

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life now with that in mind. My veteran friends out there,
we have talked about some common misconceptions, and it always
puzzled me that it seemed to me that a lifetime
worth of health care, which is what you are pretty
much entitled to as long as you faithfully serve your
country and get a DD two fourteen discharge edition, is

(01:40:56):
kind of an incentive. It's like a pension program. You know,
if there's a job offering you a pension and one
that's not, you might consider the pension job because that's
an extra perk that somebody else isn't offering. So you
may not make all the money in the world serving
your country, but you're doing something that's profoundly important. It
shows profound respect for your country. You're defending our nation
from adversaries foreign and domestic. And you also get a

(01:41:19):
livetime of free health care almost almost almost. There are
categories in there, honest, and that's why we have you.
But that's right that veterans who are eligible for it
just pass on it or don't sign up. This is
what we're going to try to focus on today.

Speaker 12 (01:41:35):
Absolutely, there's yeah, there's if you can consider this in
this matrix, here's Joe and when did you serve and
how many years? And you're following this flow chart. But
it's what's running in the mind of many veterans of
you know, there's especially from our older generation, our parents,
the children that grew from parents that came through the depression.

(01:42:00):
You straighten every nail, you throw it in the bucket,
you pick up every penny. Nothing goes to waste. There's
only a limited amount to go around. There's victory gardens
going in and so those children from those parents, well,
I don't want to go to get to the VA
and get a set of hearing aids because I can
hear the TV if I turn it up loud enough. Well,
so can three apartments down here in your TV. But

(01:42:22):
yet they're afraid that if I take those hearing aids,
another veteran that needs a more than me is not
going to get their hearing aids. And that's an upside
down way to think about it, because the VA actually
gets their budget off of the amount of veterans signed
up for healthcare, which means they're going to get a
bigger budget and they can afford more hearing aids and

(01:42:44):
they're not going to run out of stock.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Right And I among my listening audience and my personal
perception is, you know, if there is a worthy expenditure
of taxpayer dollars, our veteran community is a worthy expenditure,
you know, because we're filled with the government likes to
pay for literally every thing. Most of it is batcrap, insane,
but these are folks that, you know, literally put their
lives on the line.

Speaker 12 (01:43:06):
It's going back to the founding father, maybe Abraham Lincoln,
whether you consider him founding father or not yet for
him to quote, to care for him who has.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Borne the battle exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:43:19):
He's been the presence of America either on foreign shores
for our interests.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
So in other words, for that veteran who wasn't getting
the hearing aids turning the TV up, and not only
is that person overlooking the cognitive decline and other health
issues that will go along with that. Absolutely, by not
getting the hearing aids the V eight, he's maybe reducing
the likelihood that somebody else is going to get hearing
aids because of funding levels.

Speaker 12 (01:43:44):
Because of funding levels, or he's spending six to eight
thousand dollars out on the open market. That's yeah, I
know for us out of hearing aids, right, I mean
they're expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Well, I like to hope that the government has haggled
and negotiated a good contract for hearing aids that they're
not fitting at full rate. Reject that comment, right then,
so and the other consipt. You didn't have to serve
in combat or be injured while serving your country to
be eligible for VA benefits. I guess that's another thing
that runs through some of the veterans' minds.

Speaker 12 (01:44:12):
So a lot of them consider yes. Short answer. Typically
we look at as a veteran, what were my injuries
on active duty and what is the VA going to
do about them? Because my life has been hindered by
my injuries from active duty. But yet the VA still

(01:44:33):
has a healthcare program where I just pay a colpay.
And so if I'm fifty percent disabled or more by
the VA, then my healthcare is free through the VA.
But if I'm ten percent, zero percent, I can still
get healthcare through the VA. It might come with a
small col pay, but I can still have a primary

(01:44:53):
care physician at the VA.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:44:55):
But now, the great thing about Cincinnati, right is the
VA has done a tremendous this job here locally in
picking up It's not just its service, but it's impression
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Yep, veterans have told you that, yes, you survey them regularly.

Speaker 12 (01:45:12):
I have a friend of the family who's gone through
cancer and the VA has taken him through every step,
and he says, I hear all the stories, but I
will tell you I'm an advocate for the Cincinnati VA.
They've treated me so well. What more do you need?

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
Nothing? Not any more than that. And then, of course
a lot of veterans are awesome hires. If an employer
is looking for a quality worker, hire a veteran. Along
with getting a job quite often comes your medical insurance
from your employer, and a lot of veterans out there
have that and perhaps think that just because I have
insurance from my employer, I shouldn't even bother with the VA.

Speaker 12 (01:45:46):
So here's here's here's some of the anomalies. So I
retired from active duty, I have trycare. I get it
for the rest of my life. I get health care
by the government. I also, because I work for the county,
have health care through the county. But because of my disabilities,
I also have health care through the VA. So I
actually have three programs I can run with, but I

(01:46:07):
use the VA because I'm no longer paying for a
copay for my medications. All my prescriptions I get ninety
days at a time. I call the phone number they
set up appointments for me. It's a phenomenal way to have.
I really don't need the other two in that sense,
but it's I'm not your everyday Joe, I guess. But

(01:46:28):
to have that opportunity, even if I do go to
work to one. Tell mister employer, man, hey, if I
decline your health care because I have healthcare at the VA,
will you bump me up an extra six ten K?
You would be paying for my health care.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
I like that, right, Hey? The fools, the one that's
not looking out for his own best interests. It's worth
asking the question anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:46:51):
Absolutely, it's it's a no until you do ask. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
I love the first time you brought that one up.
That is people the wheels are spitting out their heads,
right dot h I'm gonna try that one out. They
can almost smell it. They're remaining minute we've got here.
You can enroll online. This does not require a trip
to the VA hospital to do this.

Speaker 12 (01:47:10):
No, the initial it's a ten ton easy. That's just
submitting to start your healthcare. They're gonna look at your records.
If you have a copy of d D two fourteen,
you uproll it there. If not, they'll search records for it.
But you can VA dot gov apply from your home
on your computer.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
And if you have any questions or how to do that,
the climat County Veteran Services will help you through the
process as well, won't.

Speaker 12 (01:47:32):
They claimont County Veterans dot com or five to one
three seven three two seven three six three.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
And one concluding point, as I find out, there is
not a waiting period after active duty for a veteran
to enroll in the VA, So just you know you
get discharged. Head on over the website sign up.

Speaker 12 (01:47:48):
They're doing a great job for veterans leaving active duty
right now that they're assessing them prior to leaving. I've
been asked for that for years. At We're not completely
there at my base station right so, your larger camps
or forts or stations are having more availability of that type.
Your smaller locations, some of your snake eater locations out

(01:48:11):
in the woods probably won't have that. They're gonna have
to go to a bearer one. But we're starting to
roll that out.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Man. We should get that in place everywhere. Listen, you
got them right there, they're still serving. Give them the
information about enrollment or just enroll them right there.

Speaker 12 (01:48:24):
Their physicians are there right now. I know the Nexus letters.
I mean everything to support them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Steve Belsa, God bless you, sir. I appreciate what you're
doing with the veterans. I love your enthusiasm. I'd love
your profound appreciation for veterans and everything that you do
to help improve the services at the VA. You got
any problems, the VA wants to know about it, so
please make sure you let them know if you run
into an issue, be nice about it, but they'll do
everything they can to address any concerns you have while there.

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That is, Steve, a great year we're going to have together.
We look forward to having you back on man.

Speaker 12 (01:48:54):
Oh, I can't wait till next month.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Thanks Brian, keep up the great work. Vanguard of the
American has caused Gary Minoy hoping pronouncing that name correctly.
He's going to join the program with his book after
the top of the our news then of course.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
Necessary PGWO what did my lost terms?

Speaker 6 (01:49:07):
Conditions twenty one LUs.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
It's going to be a mad tree brew today, Summit Park,
Luash location and without further Ado really excited about talking
with Gary Benoy. He's the editor in chief of The
New American, which is a political affiliate to the John
Birch Society, and author of the book we're going to
be speaking about today Today Vanguard of Americans caused a
close look at the John Birch Society. He's been a
member of the JBS since joining as a teenager back

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in nineteen sixty eight, been a member of its staff
since seventy seven, Editor of the New American in nineteen
eighty six, and he's assumed his current position is editor
in Chief since twenty twenty one. Over the years, he
served as director of The Birch Society's Research Department, editor
of the John Birch Society, Bolton, and the publisher of
the New American. Welcome to the fifty five Case Morning Show,
Gary Benoit. It's a real pleasure to have you on

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the program, sir, It's a.

Speaker 11 (01:49:51):
Pleasure beyond Brian, and thank you so much for inviting me.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Oh happy to And you know, I was thinking about it.
John Birch Society has been the target of the slings
in a arrows of outrage for years. You know, we
people call conspiracy theorists, and then we kind of call
them pattern observers. And you hear these crazy ideas and
these and these conclusions about things, and you dismissed them
as ah, come on, that's not going on. And then

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next thing, you know, wait for a few years, and
it turns out, well, you know what, that conspiracy theorist
ie pattern observer turns out to be right. That's basically
the John Bursa Society.

Speaker 11 (01:50:25):
And that's absolutely true. And of course there were people
who dismissed us many years ago because they did think
that what we're saying was crazy. And a perfect example
would be the John Birch Society's position to get us
out of the United Nations. And back in the nineteen
seventies we had a major billboard campaign to get us
out of the UN Nation. I remember the people yes,
and people laughed at that, because, my goodness, isn't the

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United Nations mankind's last us hope for peace. But what
we were saying at the time is no, that's not true,
that this is a world government tramp and that an
organization large enough to bring about global peace could also
so used the power to impose global tyranny. And over
the years, people have realized that that is the case,
and more and more people agree that we need to
get out of the United Nations. So that's just one

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example of where people thought we were crazy but then
learn over time that we were correct.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Well, you know, that's one of the benefits Gary and
I might observe Gary about the modern age. As critical
as I may be about the garbage that the Internet
is and all the downsides of it, at least we
have real time information about what is going on, like
how many people paid attention to you and votes outside
of the John Birch Society and those within the UN
going back to the sixties or seventies, like, what are

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they doing? I have no idea. What you oh there?
It is the UN downtown New York. What are they doing?
We have no idea. Nobody paid attention to it. You know,
Walter Konkait wasn't selecting pieces for his thirty minute news
program about the evils or what's going on inside the
United Nations. Now we know we have crazy dictatorships and
countries put on like, for example, the Human Rights Council,

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Like wait a second, they throw gay people off of buildings,
and yet here they are as part of the UN
Human Rights Group. This doesn't make any sense, I guess,
leading me to my question, Gary, why are we still
part of it? Is it really just one giant, concentrated
spy organization where people from the various like the CIA

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and MI six or five and are just gathering information
about foreign nations. It seems convenient to just draw that conclusion,
considering that apparently nothing gets done there.

Speaker 11 (01:52:33):
Well, actually, I think behind the scenes some things are
getting done, but they are things that are bad for
American independence and things that are bad for freedom, and
it's a step by step process. It's like putting a
frog into water and then you'd gradually turn up the
heat and before you know it, the frog is boiled.
And that is the same thing today. And a good
example of that strategy would be all the propaganda with

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regard to climate change. Once upon a time that you
used to be called global warming, now they call it
glama climate change. I think that's easier to big out
people regarding climate change because the weather does change from
season to season and whatnot. But that's use is a
pretext to bring about a global green regime, which ostensibly

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is a safe planet Earth, but in reality is intended
to enslave planet Earth's Earth, where a few people will control.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
The many global wealth. Deep redistribution, that's what it happens, yeah, right,
taking away from the rich countries, force them to cut
their own throat in the name of removing plant food
from the environment. How preposterous is this, gary that we
have come to the point where plant food carbon dioxide
has been labeled a pollutant that we need to get
rid of.

Speaker 11 (01:53:44):
I mean, it really isn't crazy, isn't it, Because any
school child, even the people in elementary school should know
that CO two is the gas of life, and yet
this is now being portrayed by the would be totalitarians
and the people that are able to be kile looking
at CO two is a pollutant. So it is absolutely crazy.

(01:54:06):
But the good news is that more and more people
are waking up, more and more people realize that freedom
is under attack. So the problem now is not so
much trying to point out to people that something is wrong.
That was a big problem back in the nineteen sixties
and nineteen seventies and whatnot, But the problem today much
more so is to show people that there is something
that can be done about it, and that the erosion

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of our freedoms is not happenstance, that it has happened
because powerful people and high places are planning it that way.
And the purpose of the John Birch Society, which is
founder in the nineteen fifty eight by a man named
Robert Welch, the purpose is number one, to expose that conspiracy,
and the other purpose is to bring about less government,

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more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. And
the John Birch Society is not a political organization, at
least not in the political sense. Obviously it does deal
with political activism or political issues. But our belief is
that if we create the awareness and we get people
organized and involved, that that will be the sea change
that will make the difference, That that will affect how

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people go into when they go into voting boots, that
that will cause people to hold the seat of the
politicians who take an oath to the Constitution to the
fire and ensure that they either support that boat and
how they vote, or that they themselves will get voted
out of office.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Look yesterday, Gary Binoyd, he is the author of a
book you need to get a hold of, and it's
a Lincoln on my blog page, sir, that people can
easily get a copy of Vanguard the American has cost,
which talks about the John Vertus Society's history, what they've done,
what they've accomplished, the challenges they face, and of course
his history with them. Now, let us give us a
nefarious example of how this climate nonsense and plant food
that's killing the world. United Nations Agenda twenty thirty. When

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I read the information about this, I think it's creeping
into the greater Cincinnati area. Our current mayor is interested
in what they call the connected communities, the sort of
one size fits all concerts, traded housing. Does this sound
familiar to you?

Speaker 11 (01:56:02):
What it sure does. It's actually one of the seventeen
development goals for the United Nations, sustainable development goals. Of
course they call it sustainable development, but what is really
meant by sustainable is that ostensibly the affluent lifestyle the
American people, the family home, having private transportation, being able

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to get in your own car and drive the work
and whatnot, all these things are now considered unsustainable by
the powers that be and by the United Nations. And
so they don't want to say, well, they want to
impromise us, but that what they call it instead is
sustainable development. And what you were just talking about is
a part of that strategy, This whole idea of fifteen

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minute cities and of regulations ostensibly to protect the environment,
but what an actuality is intended to control us, to
control the American people. And if that sounds crazy, I
would say, just look at what happened in twenty twenty
with COVID, where in the name of fighting COVID, what
happened we were told to stay in our homes unless

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we absolutely have to go out. Well, we were told
we could not go to work. Businesses had to close.
Of course, large big box stores such as Walmart stayed open,
but mom and pop stores were told to close. And
of course even churches were shuttered and who could go
leave Before twenty and twenty that something like that could

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have happened in the United States of America. I look
at that as a trial balloon, is to what did
thetalitarians want to accomplish in the future to make that
permanent and to control us completely using as a pretext
environment and other issues.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Yeah, they certainly did trample on a right to free
exercise of religion and the right to assemble, which are
both guaranteed by our constitutions. Seems to me the First
Amendment just got chucked out the window in the name
of all I don't know social distancing, which was a
made up consense as a concept as well, we did
learn a lot from that, and I don't ask you
to kind of read Tea Lees, but I think we
are all much smarter and much more in tune to

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that kind of nefarious element going on. I'm not quite
sure that they can necessarily get away with it like
they did last time, or am I being too optimistic.

Speaker 11 (01:58:19):
I don't think they can to the same extent, But
I would say the biggest problem today is not, as
they said earlier, trying to convince people that something is wrong.
The big problem today is convincing people that something can
be done about it. And the way to do that
is number one, to recognize that if we are going
to say and restore our freedoms, we have to do

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it ourselves. We cannot depend on somebody else to do it.
We cannot depend on a particular politician to do it.
We have to do it ourselves. And the way to
do that is to become informed, become organized, apply concerted action,
and work in communities all across the country to bring
about the great Awakening, and again to insist that the
people who represent us in Washington and the people who

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represent us and the state houses that they abide by
the Constitution. Of course, the Constitution itself shows that there
is still hope because we still have the Constitution, and
as long as we have it, as soon as people
get organized and insists that we abide by the Constitution,
I believe that will solve the problem. But it's going
to take a lot of hard work.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
It seems that part of the un and jen is
also depopulation. And I know quite a few listeners always
bring this up regularly, and I mean, I guess it
doesn't work. China totalitarian regime where you have no rights.
They had the one child policy and they are really
struggling and suffering from it mightily. You look at any
country in the world where this sort of Western concept

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of selfishness and refusal to bring new life into the
world in spite of how great it is to do so,
has really taken hold. So Western countries have been convinced
that having babies is bad. We're a bunch of cockroaches
killing the planet. It's too expensive to have children. Mom
and dad both need to work. I mean, that's been
kind of baked into the cake as well as this
religion of climate change. Has it not.

Speaker 11 (02:00:05):
Absolutely I agree to completely, Bryan. And actually, if we
could go back a few years, let's say go back
to the nineteen fifties. And I was born in nineteen
fifty three, so I remember the last part of the fifties.
I remember the sixties. But back then it was very
common for a family and family size is back then
were bigger, but very common for a family to have

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just one way journer, and typically that was the dad.
Typically he just worked one job. Oftentimes he just had
in high school education. And yet he was able to
support his family, again a family size typically being much
larger than today, and he was able to experience he
was able to live the American dream. He was able

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to own his own home, he was able to have
a car in the drive right way, and so forth.
Yet look at where we are today. Were in order
to achieve these things, you have both the husband and
the wife working. Yet people deciding, well, we cannot have children.
We have to postpone that, or we only can have
one or two children because things are so tough we

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can't afford it otherwise. And also, what can you accomplish
today with a high school education in terms of earning
the kind of living where you can live the American
dream today? And of course many young people growing up
are watering will I ever be able to buy a home?
Will I ever be able to have as good a
lifestyle as my parents have? So that is the transition

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that has taken place in this country over a couple generations.
And on John Burgessiy. We believe that it has not happenstance,
that that has been happening by design because of this conspiracy,
and an includes not just communists. I mean, it's easy
to say thimist conspiracy, and there is such a thing,
but it's also a conspiracy of insiders. It's also the
deep state. It's also people who are not themselves members

(02:01:51):
of the Communist party, but they don't mind working with
the Communists because they believe in the same thing communist do.
Let's not forget that monopoly. A total monopoly would be
total government. You cannot have a bigger monopoly than that.
And what happens when government has total power and say
people in big business, big medium, big government, and whatnot,

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they're working together and they will work with communists in
order to consolidate more and more government, leading to total government,
and more and more internationalism leading to world government. So
that is the danger, and the solution is to simply
expose that conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
And get a copy of the book Vanguard of the
Americans cause a close look at the John Birch Society,
the victories, some of the challenges they faced over the years. Hey,
they were on the front lines of these accusations of
craziness and conspiracy theory. But as we find out, you
wait long enough, guess who was right? Apparently it was
a John Bursh Society. Gary Benoy, thank you for sticking

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it out for all those years and being on the
front lines of the regular attacks. I'm sure you've got
a lot of callous to show for it, but you're
a great example to hold out for others to e
to the challenge themselves.

Speaker 13 (02:03:01):
Five heavy us through lock On, Northbound, out of Arrowlinger
into the cut. Everything is new in twenty twenty six,
including our next guest coming up is the brand new
draft consultant for the New York Giants, Judge Napolitano. You're
on the clock, Chuck ingramont fifty five KR the Talk station,

(02:03:25):
fifty five.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
Car Ceed Talk Station. Well, you may not think big
plans for the Bengals this year, but if Chuck Ingram
is right, got big plans for the Giants this year,
I guess they're gonna do really well with Judge of
Politano helping them out. Judge of Polaitano, Welcome back to
the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Every Wednesday, at this
time we get the Judge's stage, wisdom and insight, constitutional
purest he may be, and maybe suffering some slings and

(02:03:47):
arrows as a consequence of it, but we're running out.
We're we're running out of people who are on our
side of the ledger anymore, Judge of you are happy
New Year.

Speaker 3 (02:03:55):
And also suffering slings and arrows of it, being a
long suffering giant fan. If I had my druthers, I
went to hire Bill Belichick as general manager. And as said.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
Coach, I like that. It's nice to have a little
misery loves company going on when you're a Bengals fan.
So probably, well, you know, we understand where you're coming from,
Judge of Politano, and finding ourselves in a bit of
a minority with the most recent unilateral military action by
a president. And this happens with presidents of all political stripes.

(02:04:26):
With this one, of course, we're dealing with Donald Trump
goes in middle night grabs Manuel Noriega and arey we
did that before. The predicate may have been Manuel Noriega,
among others, Nicholas Madur and his wife for criminal violations.
And it seems to me, Judge of Politano, if you're using,
for example, Noriega as the predicate or the legal authority.

(02:04:47):
And I know you'll have a word or two to
say about that. To grab this guy, the idea that
he was indicted by a federal grand jury and facing
criminal charges for work that was unrelated to his position
as the president of a nation, in other words, making
money on the side, engaging in criminal activity. That's not
a presidential thing that we can grab him. But I

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think that is sort of the precondition of the predicate,
the sort of the thing that they're hanging their hat
on in order to engage in what they're calling this
don Roe doctrine, to try to keep the Chinese out
of the hemisphere, to try to keep the Russians out
of the hemisphere, of course, to get rid of drugs
generally speaking, but to bring about some greater pro Western

(02:05:31):
stability here, I think was the goal. But you can't
go in and grab somebody just because they disagree with
you politically. Oh look, we've got a federal indictment for
criminal charges. We can use the Norriega example and go
grab him. And I know you disagree with all of that,
but here we are.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
Well, I do disagree with all of it because we
have this thing called the Constitution, then we have a
treaty that the United States drafted and the Senate ratified
and called the un Charter, and both prohibit this. The
President doesn't seem to care about the Constitution, which he
took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend. As we
all know, he doesn't seem to care about a treaty

(02:06:10):
with which he may disagree, even though under the lows
in the same category as the Constitution, this Constitution and
all treaties made pursuant to it shall be the supreme
law of the land. I'm quoting from the Constitution itself.
But the President doesn't care and probably will get away

(02:06:30):
with this. The Noriega example was just as unlawful as this,
but the courts did not interfere with it. Interesting thing,
Noriega argued that all he did was look the other
way while the CIA engaged in drug trafficking, because the

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CIA asked him to look the other way. Well, question
who was the director of the CIA when Noriega was
engaged in what he says was cooperation with them? George Bush,
the same president who invaded Panama to arrest him. George HW. Bush.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
It's amazing how that list stars ALIGNE on that. But
under legal theories, him looking away is a criminal act.
He is part of the broader conspiracy to involve the
involved in the drug trade. Whether it's the CIA doing
the drugs or not. If it was a Rico claim
against him, he'd still be indictable and subject to prosecution
by because he helped facilitate it by looking the other
way and not doing anything.

Speaker 3 (02:07:37):
What about the CIA agent? No, no, I'm what are
they going to be defended?

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
Which leads me to the ultimate point here. Let's assume
everyone agrees with you that right, this is extra constitutional.
What is the response supposed to be in this insanely
politically divided environment. You can't get Congress to pass even
a bill. If Trump wants it, they hated. If Trump
doesn't want it, then they want it.

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
I don't know what the response is. I think Trump
was correct yesterday when he told the Republican caucus that
if the Democrats take the House, he'll be impeached. They
won't be convicted, it'll be impeached, and we'll be going
through that nonsense of tying up the government and knots again.
He's already been impeached twice. There just aren't the votes

(02:08:24):
to convict unless some more comes out. But that's really
the only remedy there is at this point. That Congress
doesn't have an LBJ. There is no person there who
can cobble together agreements that appeal to a majority of
Republicans and a majority of Democrats. It's whoever's in charge

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gets their way. They don't want to go shape with
or talk to the minority party. The Democrats will probably
take the House in a November. Anything could happen. That's
nine months away, ten months away. They hope to take
the Senate. That's a bit of a stretch. But again,

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anything could happen, but the government will be steinmied. It
will accomplish nothing. Maybe that's a good thing if Trump's
in the White House and one or both of the
Houses of Congress are controlled by the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
So we are left with this sort of I don't
want to call it an incentive to ignore the declaration
of war responsibility in the Constitution. They control the Congress
is supposed to have over these matters. Because we run
into this brick wall that there won't be any consequences
if there is a questionable constitutional action here, So doesn't

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that sort of facilitate presidents down the road doing the
same thing. And a suggestion I met to you in
that email, it's like throwing in the concepts of legal
concepts of waiver and a stop or whatever. Everybody's done
it since World War Two. We kind of like political expedients.
We don't have to put ourselves down as voting in
favor of something like this, and it gives us an

(02:10:07):
opportunity to scream and yell about what the opposition president
is doing. And yet since they don't follow through and
do anything, something suggests in the back of my mind
that I think they all kind of like this cozy
arrangements as well. It's by the fact that the Constitution
seems prohibited.

Speaker 3 (02:10:24):
I was literally interviewing the late great Congressman Charlie Wrangle
of Harlem when President Obama came a national television from
Brazil and announced that we were bombing Libya. And I
looked at the Congressman Wrangle and I said, did I

(02:10:46):
miss something? Did you guys declare war on Libya. I
won't try and imitate his voice, yet I remember him
a famous way of speaking with a very scratchy sounding voice,
but he said, well, no, we didn't. We just hope
it's a success full outcome, and then it's a win
win for us. We didn't declare war, but we'll reap
the benefits for more. So we privately hope it's successful,

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but publicly we'll say the hell are you to do this?
Follow the constitution. The attitude is the same amongst the
Republicans today.

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
It is. That's why I think it's going to continue.
If there isn't a political ramification or some illegal ramifies, then.

Speaker 3 (02:11:25):
We don't have a constitution and we don't really have
a democracy. We just have a term limited monarch in
the White House. He may not even be term limited
in his own mind.

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Well, and you know, you could move over to different
areas of topics. I just had a conversation with a
gentleman who wrote a book, Ary Benoy. He's been with
a johnsh Burt Society since basically it's founding. But he
put it out a COVID nineteen and I brought up
the fact that free exercise of religion was eradicated, like
to free assembly was eradicated, all in the name of

(02:11:57):
all COVID. So our Constitution gets traded. You and I
have talked many times about they're trampling all over the
Fourth Amendment. There are right to be free of unreasonable
searches and seizures. And what's going on with FISA courts?
I mean here and there in everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
The drug war in the sixties, seventies and eighties, and
then the overreaction to nine to eleven have obliterated the
Fourth Amendment, and the courts have gone along with it.
There are very few of my former colleagues in black
robes who believe that the Constitution means what it says,

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very very few. It's hard for me to find one
on the Supreme Court of the United States. I might
have said that about Justice gor s such a year
or so ago, but he seems to have fallen in
line with his right wing colleagues, including my college debate
partner Sam Alito.

Speaker 6 (02:12:52):
What of?

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
And I just I have to bring this up because
been the subject of a lot of discussion going back
to Venezuela. The Democrats, Joe Biden's want to put up
twenty five or fifty million dollars bounty on him. Is
there something to a bounty? Is that extra constitutional? I mean,
and I don't know what that means. If you put
a bounty out and someone's being offered millions and millions
of dollars to bring me the head of nor Diega

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or Maduro or whoever. It seems to me that that's
a suggestion that the American military is going to do it,
because who among us can go into a foreign land
and actually successfully capture somebody who's under guard. But is
there something wrong with that concept? And how can you
advocate for putting a bounty on a man's head and
then run back the next day and screaming yell about
someone actually extra or taking action on that.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
Yeah, I never looked at the constitutionality of bounties. The
American government'smen using bounties since right after the Revolutionary War.
But sometimes we put bounties on the heads of people
like the president of the current president of Syria, and
then we just take the bounty away and embrace him

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in the in the oval office. So it's more it's
more political than it is legal or financial. Who's going
to get the fifty million that the State Department put up?
Is it going to be shared amongst the guys that
actually grabbed him in his bedroom.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
Or maybe the intel that came from within the administration
that no longer exists. There probably that person or persons
that gave the intel to our American military.

Speaker 3 (02:14:25):
Well, the likely culprit is still a general and still
subject to the new president, Maduro's chosen vice president. It's
very interesting that unlike the Bush Cheney administration, which when
they took over Iraq through the whole government out, the

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Trump people have decided, let's work with the people that
are in place. We can't fill the potholes, we can't
deliver the mail, we can't collect the garbage. Oh, we
can't even do that in our own country. How are
we going to do it in Venezuela?

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
And I think the threat of the same thing happening
to those current leaders may force them or cause them
to be more inclined to work with Trump to achieve
the goals that Trump's looking for, like bringing out fifty
million barrels of oil.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
So that's just theft, that's.

Speaker 6 (02:15:15):
Just a.

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Schoolyard bully saying give me your lunch money or I'll
beat your face in.

Speaker 1 (02:15:23):
Yeah, they can say no, though, it's complicated, isn't it. Hey,
should we.

Speaker 3 (02:15:29):
Need more bullies in the world to oh, a neutralized
one in the White House.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
Should I mention even the word greenland? Oh God, let's
not go there anyway, you know, going back to Seward's folly,
the idea of buying greenland, that's been done before. So
if you write them at check and they accept that,
and that can be an arms length negotiation, that's one thing.
But this talk of military intervention to take it over,
I don't know what planet that comes from, Judge of Poltone,

(02:15:56):
I kind of feel you feel the same way on
that one.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
I do feel the same way it comes from the
President's brain. I mean, the sale of it requires a
willing seller as well as a willing fire. In this
case of the willing buyer would have to be the
Congress of the United States, right, can't be Trump and
his billionaire friends. So I don't I don't know how
this could possibly happen. I can't imagine the Senate going

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along with this exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
So conceptually it's possible, but reality has to step in
and say no, it's not possible. Judge Ennetapolitano, always an
outstanding discussion with you. I appreciate you willingness to come
on the morning show, and I hope we continue to
do this throughout this calendar year.

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
Sir, I hope the same, and I'm deeply grateful for
all our time together, my dear friend.

Speaker 1 (02:16:40):
Thanks been a wonderful bunch of years.

Speaker 6 (02:16:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:16:42):
Happy to hell you Ingram, tell Ingram and Streker that
I love them you already did. Thank you, Judge. We'll
talk next Wednesday, safe week and help you fit eight
forty two. Right now, if you five care see the
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Fifty five KRC dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:17:06):
The new year means new resolutions, not just foration. Last one.
I promise Matt Treebrewery today for listener lunch. If you
want to make it will be at the Blue Ash
location that's at the Summit Park. Let's go to the phones.
A lot of people calling in. I'll just acknowledge up front.
We I think we can all generally conclude Nepalitan a
no fan of Trump, but as I mentioned, many times
over the years. We try as hard as possible. Joe

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Strekker works his butt off to try to get people
with different opinions on the program. We ask Democrat politicians
to come on the show. Am I going to agree
with him? No, but I love having the discussion with them.
Things that make you go hmm, that pesky constitution getting
in the way, and quite often it does. But you
know what, the erosion is gradual, and it's happening over
and over again, and you got to stand up for it.

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At some point, I mentioned the First Amendment in my conversation.
We've talked many times about the Fourth Amendment. This one
involves matters of war. I know he's very strong in
his opinions about this, and that's the judge you don't have.
I have to agree with him, but at least I
think it gives you that fuel for discussion and for
intellectual process. Tim, thanks for calling this morning, Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 14 (02:18:10):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 7 (02:18:11):
Brian.

Speaker 14 (02:18:12):
Hey, I'm a retired veteran and I do fully take
the pay that my employer gives me for not having
his insurance. I do have try care and I use
that I do.

Speaker 8 (02:18:32):
Not utilize the VA.

Speaker 14 (02:18:34):
Going through my initial processing into the VA. They charged
me for it. I didn't have to pay, but you know,
but still they billed me for the services of doing
my initial screening, and I just don't trust them to
save my life.

Speaker 1 (02:18:54):
Well, I guess you're entitled, certainly entitled to your opinion,
and that's fine. But see now that I would can
perceive that to be a complaint, and I, taking Steve
Belzo's advice, recommend you know, delivering that complaint to them
and having answer and account for it. They may change
things based upon your experience, because obviously it left you
with a negative impression. So things have gotten much better

(02:19:15):
over the years. I mean, I don't have to go
back to Bob McDonald how bad things were when that
clown was running the show. We've gotten a lot better.
And they continue to strive to serve the American veteran,
which is why I continue to support them. And I
know guys like Steve really have your back and the
folks of the VA really have your back as well.
So maybe next experience will be better. I don't know,
but please do not hesitate to register or complain with them,

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because they will they will take them seriously, Hey, Zach,
final word this morning, thanks for calling it. A Happy
Wednesday to you, Sir Brian.

Speaker 7 (02:19:43):
Good to hear from me. I was listening to the
radio and Donovan with AFP came on. I'm very honored
to have the endorsement of Americans for a Prosperity and
my State Center race for District seven. And I've always said,
if you want change, you got to stop electing career politicians.
When need privates, business people, problem solvers, people that are
motivated by a paycheck and a pension that can't be

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bully bought or bribed. They're going to get to the
bottom of things, get to these NGOs, all the waste,
all the corruption, roll up their sleeves and start fixing problems.
So I look part it coming on your show in
the future.

Speaker 1 (02:20:16):
You are obviously welcome, Zach. I sure appreciate you calling
in and listening to the segment. Of course, Americans for
Prosperity certainly has your back and you will well the
fifty five Carsy Morning Show as well. I like what
you have