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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifty five k The Talk Station seven twenty nine, fifty
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Welcome back to the fifty five KFC Morning Show from
Americans for Prosperity, Donovan and Neil. Always good to having

(00:21):
you on the show. My friend got a little to
updates on our property tax situation here in the state
of Ohio, one of my favorite topics.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, we've got some good news.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Legilation is moving and it's not bad bills, Brian, We're
not not growing government.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
We might be shrinking it here, So this is good.
This is good.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well, Well, yesterday in the House Ways and Means Committee.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well wind this back a little bit.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We identified some priority legislation around property tax reform beginning
of this fall session, two bills, House Bill one eighty
six and House Bill three thirty five.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Both of those bills were voted.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Out of the House Ways and Means Committee in Columbus
to yesterday with a bipartisan eleven to one vote.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Wow accounts.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
What these do is these, in short, tackle and address
the spikes in increases we've all seen, making some changes
in a couple of different ways, but address, at the
end of the day, Brian, the spikes that so many
people have seen that I think really have put us
in this property tax crisis.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
We're all trying to figure our way out of.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right, let's break them down. What does House Bill
one eighty six do specifically that we are now happy
about it?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, So what one eighty six does is it caps
spikes in school property tax to inflation while also giving
a retroactive credit. So we're going to wind the clock
back just a little bit here and say, hey, you
know back I believe it is in twenty twenty three,
back a couple of years. Instead of allowing these increases
to occur where you had the double whammy of inflation
and massive property tax increases, our property valuation increases resulting

(02:00):
in thirty forty fifty percent valuation going up right and.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Seeing your paces go up.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
In an equivalent manner, we're going to cap it to
inflation so they don't get more than what inflation would be.
That provides that means we're only seeing potentially if we
go back to Bidenomics.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Lord knows we don't need to go back there.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
But in that same timeframe, instead of forty percent, we
would have only seen an eight or nine percent increase
in taxes. Still a lot Brian, but much much different
in helping to smooth out these christs.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
This this sort of effect we've seen in the last
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
So this prevention of sudden spikes to the rate of inflation,
I'm going to guess my bubble has been burst because
I was hoping that that would limit levees to the
rate of inflation. But that doesn't apply to a separate levee,
does it.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I believe it's I mean, it's property tax levees, so
you know if you've got.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
But that's not a valuations that's not a valuation generated spike.
That's because voters say, oh, okay, I'll go ahead and
have my taxes increase and give the schools more money.
I'm kind of being cheeky here, man. I just but
at least one eight six gets us out of the
hell hole that will was created in the aftermath of
COVID when the valuations of homes went through the roof,

(03:15):
and then we had the triannual evaluation. That's when we
got our thirty percent plus increase.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yes, Yes, and I think some of the things that
we want to see happen to address what you're talking
about there, right, the levees going up, we did not
being addressed here, but we would say, hey, you should
actually have to have a larger amount of the vote
to get that done.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You can't get that done off of a fifty plus
one majority. If you're going to increase everyone in your
community's taxes, you probably need to be more two thirds, right,
three fifths majority. It needs to be a clear demand
signal from the voters that yes, we.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Want to give more of our money.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
To the to the local political subdivision asking for it.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
We're continue to work on that.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh, that is something that's being discussed.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Then, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
One of the it's an element of the Truth and
Taxation package of reform that will help empower you know,
put the put the power back of the end of
the taxpayer rather than the political subdivisions where so much
of that power exists today.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
All right, As in minitial responses, that sounds like a
pretty solid idea going forward, people are responsible for their
own destiny. If they want to increase their own taxes,
that's fine, but you know your neighbor may not be
in a position to cover that. And so the idea
of having a stronger number of people required to approve
a tax levy, I think that is a sound concept.
So fingers crossed it that one kind of moves forward.

(04:36):
House Bill three thirty five. This one also moved out
of committee. Was it a comparable eleven to one bipartisan vote?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Surprisingly, so it was holy, I know, well, what this
does is this tackles the inside millage, and so I
don't have.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
To get two wonky on a Wednesday morning.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
But every political there's ten mills of property tax levied
in every CA, and that inside millage. What this does
is it ties that growth as well to inflation, while
also giving the ability like this for voluntary reductions. And
so the local governments can look around and say, hey,
actually we want to lower the amount of money we're

(05:16):
collecting off of inside millage to provide relief to our taxpayers.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
And so.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Most importantly though, it's that inflationary right, tying things to
inflation rather than you know, you didn't at a garage.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
You didn't you know, make any major modifications to your house.
You didn't go out and.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Like tap into that unrealized those unrealized gains. As your
house's value has gone up, you're being taxed on it. Right,
that's wrong, and we're gonna they're fixing that with House
Bill three thirty five.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, Well, sounds like progress in the right direction.
When is it going to come up for a full vote?
And does it have the support of Governor Mike Dwine
who vetoed it, vetoed some provisions in the budget which
would have addressed some of these property tax issues.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, I think these sorts of ideas were included in
the Governor's Overall Study Committee. Right, everybody is sort of
a feed around these ideas, So I think this is
universally accepted. It should get a vote this afternoon. Both
of these should get votes this afternoon during the House session.
Now it has to go to the Senate receive a
number of hearings, but all indications are that this is
especially with the bipartisan support, These are ideas that are

(06:21):
going to move fairly quickly and get to the Governor's desk.
Eighty six is key because that will provide a relief
for folks on their second half.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Year tax bills. Oh oh, five hundred million dollars across
the state.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh so some immediate relief that. Okay, I like that.
I like that. All right, Well there's what you look
I mean. I guess you're not suggesting that this is
in jeopardy, that this isn't going to be a squeak,
or considering eleven to one out of the committee. We
don't need to call to action, to call up our
elected officials and columbus and demand that they vote in

(06:53):
favor of this. It looks like a foregun conclusion if
you had to read some tea leaves there. Donovan Brian
was always.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
A foot on the peddle here. We don't give up
just you don't slow down just because things are head
in the.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Director all right, email, phone calls, some kind of outreach.
Is it can't hurt Donald Neil doesn't hurt? What else
are what what's the next step in property tax relief
at AFP's looking for. Is it what we just talked
about or is there something else that looks like it
could be ready to be teed up to give us
even further relief because I know there was like twenty

(07:27):
or twenty five different action plan items that had been
established ahead of the budget vote. But also in this
sort of post veto budget group that the DWINE put together, well,
I think there's.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Like forty some plus different bills that are out there
that that you know, do some type of some type
of reform. I think what we what we want to
continue to see is some of that truth and taxation
stuff that I was talking about. Right, Let's make sure
that the taxpayers are empowered with the authority to you know,

(08:03):
you got to get a you got to convince a
large number of your tax base to support an increase.
The other piece I think that continues to be talked
about is surrounding county budget commissions, and so this could
provide a really important stopgap measure local accountability measure comprised
of your auditor, treasurer, and other prosecutor. Depending on how
it's set up to be that voice of the taxpayer,

(08:25):
those folks have brian a county wide view of what's
going on, right, rather than just being focused on a
little village or a specific school district, they're looking.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
At the county at Hole.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
And what I think that what we think that can
do is really help provide.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Another on the taxpayer.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Say hey, you know, schools, cities, townships, you all are
collecting all this money, how much of it do you
actually need? And what can you do to maybe adjust
or not grow as much because it actually has an impact,
right Brian. High taxes have an impact on the econo
health of a county.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
So this County Budget Commission that already exists, that already
does a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
It just needs the authority really to be able to
be able to say, no, you're not gonna you know,
you're sitting on one hundred percent cash fund balance, You're
flushed with cash, you just got another levee approved.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
You don't need more money. You don't need it.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
There's no real purpose, right, you're providing quality services that
County Budget Commission. If if we can empower and strengthen
that further, and there's some ideas kicking around around that
that would help address I think more of those problems
and keep it.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
At a local level, rather than allowing.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
The state to come in and intervene, which is what
some folks want.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Let's keep it local and that's what we can do
here with this.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
All right call to action? Where do you want my
listeners to go for this and other issues? Donald Renel
for Americans for Prosperity, Well.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Buckeye Blueprint dot Com, go there, take action, sign up.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
We've got chapters and action.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Committees popping up all over the state on this and
many many other issues. Thank you, brain has always for
sharing your megaphone with on Wednesday morning.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Happy to do it, Donovan, and God bless you and
Americans were prospering for the wonderful work that you're doing
each and every day. Everybody get involved. They make it
so easy. Buff Buckeye Blueprint dot Com. Donovan will talk
next Wednesday, and I hope you bring some more news,
a good news our way. We'll do take care. Thanks
brother seven thirty nine. Right now, if you FI have
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