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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Seven thirty here fifty five KR Seedy Talks Station. A
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Edna Politano and Independence Day twenty twenty five. Are you
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legitimate question to ponder. George Lang State centat they're going
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the Ohio budget and joining the program right now to
talk about the Ohio budget. Donovan and Neil from Americans
(01:09):
for Prosperity, welcome back to the show. Donovan, Always a
pleasure to having you on.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Brian, always great to be with you and happy to
be an opener for Buckeye Blueprint champion.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
George Lang, He's one of the best.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, and I'm looking forward to talking to him as well.
Maybe he can discuss why it is that Governor de
Want vetoed so many provisions sixty seven vetos. Now they
can override these vetos if they come back from their break.
Is my understanding, what's the percentage they need by way
of I mean, is this a super majority to override vetos?
(01:40):
It a simple majority? How does that work?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Do you know? Donovan? Yeah, And it's actually something we've
done before. AFP was part of this.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You may remember late in the final term for Governor Kasik,
there were some medicaid provisions that he vetoed. Legislature came
back overrode his vetos for waivers to save some money
bring some efficiency to that program. So it's possible, and
it's happened in recent history. It's a two thirds majority,
(02:08):
so that ninety nine members in the House you need.
What is that I think about sixty three sixty sixty
three somewhere in there, so two thirds majority, it's not unfeasible.
There's sixty five members in the Republican caucus in the House.
The Senate, I think I would say it's probably a
slam dunk for something like a veto override. But the
(02:29):
House is where you've got to kind of watch and
see who's available and around to come back and get
that done.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And in terms of how this would work, are would
they vote to override all of the vetos across the board?
Are they just going to hand pick the ones that
they really want to override? I mean, do you have
any insight into how that's going to work or if
it will work that way?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
My understanding and I have to take another look at
how all those how all this sort of comes together.
But my understanding is it is each individual veto has
to be voted on. You don't just vote to undo
the whole package. You have to pick and choose what
you're going to have, what you're gonna do there. But
you could do it all that just be sixty seven
different votes, I believe.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, so it's unlikely that they would vote on every
single veto then, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think that's right. I think they probably would prioritize
the ones where there's the largest amount of consensus, things
like property taxes or reg reform.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Or school choice.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I would hope and maybe some of this other stuff's
tackled in other future pieces of legislation, would still get
it all done this session.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
All right, which is a good segue into Americans for Prosperity.
What is AFP advocating for in terms of its choices
on what should be overridden which vetos?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, well, well, you know, we issued our Buckeye Blueprint.
That's our policy agenda for this year. Big things like
tax reform, moving on he to a flat tax. That's
mission accomplished. The governor recognized he could at veto that
and have it stand. But there's other major priorities. Property
tax in particularly property tax reform.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
All the property tax.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Reform provisions, those were designed to provide immediate relief while
also providing structural reform to keep a property tax crisis
like we're experiencing right now happening. Again, those were all
vetoed by the governor. Reg reform, so the Rains Act
type provisions that were included in the in the final
version of the budget that would have rained in executive overreach.
(04:20):
There was maybe a little bit of executive overreach, and
he vetoed the ability.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
To rein in his bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That was well.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That was the provision that if any regulation that was
implemented had a financial impact of what more than one
hundred thousand dollars or a million dollars, then it had
to be specifically voted on in the legislative branch exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And so it's not saying you can't have a rule
that's going you know, you can't implement a new regulation
that's going to have a million dollar economic drag on
the state of Ohio. It just needs a little extra
scrutiny that was veto to put.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
On the cutter and floor. Did he explain why.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
There's put so with each of these vetos, the governor
does have to provide a veto message. I would describe
it as a pretty sterile message. I believe if I
recalled him, that was a pretty generic This slows down
the ability for the executive and our agencies to.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Do their job.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh well, good, that's the point of it, isn't it.
I agree? I agree, Brian, you got to put people
on record.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Are you in favor of this expensive regulation or do
you want to not have this expensive regulation? Vote on it.
I don't see a problem with that. That's actually disheartening
right there.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Well, what's interesting, though, is this isn't unique.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, AFP's leading the charge on this rainback reforms
across the country. Over twenty states have introduced or pass
reforms this year alone, just the first six months of
this year. States like Kentucky with Andy Basheer, no surprise,
he vetoed it. The legislature came back and slapped him down,
although they're only a simple majority. But Wyoming, even with
Republican governors Wyoming vetoed. They came back and slapped him down.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
And so this actually.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It's kind of a dramatic finish to these sorts of
reg reform ideas. Right when the executive says I don't
want more oversight, and the legislature.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Comes back and overrides them.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I think that's the idea behind those bills, right, is
that the legislature has that oversight, and if the governor
sees fit to veto it, I think it's right for
the legislature to come back and reassert their authority.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
It's why they put it in the bill in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Amen, brother, And with your encouragement from Americans for Prosperity,
maybe they would do just that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Pause.
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Seven thirty nine fifty five KERR see talks and talk
station for Americans for Prosperity. Donovan Hills speaking about the
various dwine vetos which can be overridden. As he explained
in the last segments, you need to come back and
do it. You picked out some other ones at AFP
that you want to override, Donovan, What might they be?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Well, proper tax I mean, we've talked about this on
the show before, Brian. You hear it wherever you go,
from coffee shops to doors, which we do a lot
of doors here at AFP, talking to voters, to roundtable
events with legislators. There's a property text crisis here in
the state of Ohio. The legislature put a number of provisions.
These weren't just ideas that they were trying to see
(09:21):
if they'd.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Stick to the wall.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Last year, Brian, the legislature had a select committee that
came together, heard hours, hundreds of hours of testimony from
various groups, and developed they believe it was twenty one
recommendation list that was brought into this session. That list
was used to then develop dozens of pieces of legislation
that again got hundreds of hours of vetting and public
(09:44):
testimony and discussion in the State House over the last
six months. These ideas that were in this budget bill,
these handful of ideas are in this budget bill addressing
the property text crisis or among some of the most vetted,
well respected, kind of a read upon ideas to resolve
not just the problem immediately, but also make some of
(10:04):
the structural changes. For some unknown reasons, still, the governor
saw fit to just strip those from the budget. His
argument was, we need to have a little more vetting
and bring together a working group to kind of solve
this property tax problem here in the state.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
It's insane to me.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He was quoted as saying, I mean, first off, property
tax increases across will have strained many family budgets and
danger of the financial security of many unfixed incomes, no kidding.
Then he pivots over to the various vetos that he
did that were addressed to that problem. These ideas were thoughtful,
but I was also concerned that imposing them, now, all
of them at once, on our local schools would create
(10:42):
a huge, huge problem. Huh So more about the schools
and the elderly.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, yeah, yeah, the problem is here and now right
the Ohioans are facing the risk of losing their homes
because of out of control property taxes. The crisis is here,
The problem is now, and the legislature put a handful
of solutions. There's more to be done, quite honestly, but
the legislature puts some solutions in to release some of
that pressure and give folks some breathing room. All of
(11:13):
that left on the cutting room floor, Well, well, what
these what these would have done these These aren't really
controversial ideas either, right, right, It's ideas like saying, hey,
you know, we're going to empower the county budget Commission,
these local elected officials who oversee the budgets in a county,
to have some additional oversight to say, hey, if you
(11:36):
if you're sitting on a large amount of cash balance
as a local government taxpayer dollars, and you're coming back
from more money to the taxpayers, you actually maybe you
shouldn't do that, right and being able to tell them
don't do that. You can't go get more money from
the taxpayers right now until you spend the money already
are sitting on from them. Things like that provide that
immediate relief. But vetoed, vetoed, As you can tell, it's
(12:02):
a little frustrating.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, I mean, there was one provision that would have
changed the authority of county budget commissions, allowing them to
unilaterally shrink a school district's levy passed by the voters.
I suppose that would apply in circumstances where the school
really doesn't need the money, given the cash reserves they
have they're sitting on, sitting on. Then they had the
cash balance carryover provision, which he vetoed, would have put
a forty percent cap in a school district carryover revenue
(12:24):
or the unspent funds of a district that they have
on hand at the end of a fiscal year. In
other words, they didn't spend what of the one hundred
percent revenue that they were entitled to, so they're sitting
on that. Then you can't ask for more and you
got to give back to the taxpayers anything over the
forty percent.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, Well, the idea you're right is we wouldn't be
happy if Columbus was sitting on gobs of cash and
still taking money from our paychecks.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
And sales tax and other mechanisms are.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Right, and quite frankically, they haven't.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Columbus has cut taxes over the last decade. We've gone
from nine tax brackets now we're down to one of
a rated two point seventy five percent. What was the
last time you heard of a school board, a city,
a county government actually lowering.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Taxes on its citizens.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I've yet to.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Find that government that's done it among the thirty nine hundred.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
In the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Legitimate point.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Donovan O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, hopefully you get them herded up, rounded back into
Columbus and start voting on overriding vetos. Good luck with
the effort, donovan on behalf of all the property taxpayers
and of course people who are in favor of some
school choice and the like. Get to work, my friend,
round those cats up.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
We're going to shoot some fireworks this Friday for the
fourth of July, and then we'll be out there getting
folks to get this done over the summer, in full months.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'm sure you will any any call to action, Donovanil
Forty Park Company today.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, first and foremost, just contact your state representative, your
state senator, thank them for making OHIOI slat tax state,
and then encourage them to get out there and finish
the job on property taxes.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Amen, brother, appreciate what you do, Donovanil. Look forward to
having you back on the program another week and have
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Seven thirty here fifty five KR Seedy Talks Station. A
very happy Wednesday to you one hour from now, Judge
Edna Politano and Independence Day twenty twenty five. Are you
freer now than you were? Under the THUMBA King George
legitimate question to ponder. George Lang State centat they're going
to join the program at eight to five talk about
the Ohio budget and joining the program right now to
talk about the Ohio budget. Donovan and Neil from Americans
(01:09):
for Prosperity, welcome back to the show. Donovan, Always a
pleasure to having you on.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Brian, always great to be with you and happy to
be an opener for Buckeye Blueprint champion.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
George Lang, He's one of the best.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, and I'm looking forward to talking to him as well.
Maybe he can discuss why it is that Governor de
Want vetoed so many provisions sixty seven vetos. Now they
can override these vetos if they come back from their break.
Is my understanding, what's the percentage they need by way
of I mean, is this a super majority to override vetos?
(01:40):
It a simple majority? How does that work?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Do you know? Donovan? Yeah, And it's actually something we've
done before. AFP was part of this.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You may remember late in the final term for Governor Kasik,
there were some medicaid provisions that he vetoed. Legislature came
back overrode his vetos for waivers to save some money
bring some efficiency to that program. So it's possible, and
it's happened in recent history. It's a two thirds majority,
(02:08):
so that ninety nine members in the House you need.
What is that I think about sixty three sixty sixty
three somewhere in there, so two thirds majority, it's not unfeasible.
There's sixty five members in the Republican caucus in the House.
The Senate, I think I would say it's probably a
slam dunk for something like a veto override. But the
(02:29):
House is where you've got to kind of watch and
see who's available and around to come back and get
that done.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And in terms of how this would work, are would
they vote to override all of the vetos across the board?
Are they just going to hand pick the ones that
they really want to override? I mean, do you have
any insight into how that's going to work or if
it will work that way?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
My understanding and I have to take another look at
how all those how all this sort of comes together.
But my understanding is it is each individual veto has
to be voted on. You don't just vote to undo
the whole package. You have to pick and choose what
you're going to have, what you're gonna do there. But
you could do it all that just be sixty seven
different votes, I believe.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, so it's unlikely that they would vote on every
single veto then, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think that's right. I think they probably would prioritize
the ones where there's the largest amount of consensus, things
like property taxes or reg reform.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Or school choice.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I would hope and maybe some of this other stuff's
tackled in other future pieces of legislation, would still get
it all done this session.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
All right, which is a good segue into Americans for Prosperity.
What is AFP advocating for in terms of its choices
on what should be overridden which vetos?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, well, well, you know, we issued our Buckeye Blueprint.
That's our policy agenda for this year. Big things like
tax reform, moving on he to a flat tax. That's
mission accomplished. The governor recognized he could at veto that
and have it stand. But there's other major priorities. Property
tax in particularly property tax reform.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
All the property tax.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Reform provisions, those were designed to provide immediate relief while
also providing structural reform to keep a property tax crisis
like we're experiencing right now happening. Again, those were all
vetoed by the governor. Reg reform, so the Rains Act
type provisions that were included in the in the final
version of the budget that would have rained in executive overreach.
(04:20):
There was maybe a little bit of executive overreach, and
he vetoed the ability.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
To rein in his bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That was well.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That was the provision that if any regulation that was
implemented had a financial impact of what more than one
hundred thousand dollars or a million dollars, then it had
to be specifically voted on in the legislative branch exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And so it's not saying you can't have a rule
that's going you know, you can't implement a new regulation
that's going to have a million dollar economic drag on
the state of Ohio. It just needs a little extra
scrutiny that was veto to put.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
On the cutter and floor. Did he explain why.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
There's put so with each of these vetos, the governor
does have to provide a veto message. I would describe
it as a pretty sterile message. I believe if I
recalled him, that was a pretty generic This slows down
the ability for the executive and our agencies to.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Do their job.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh well, good, that's the point of it, isn't it.
I agree? I agree, Brian, you got to put people
on record.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Are you in favor of this expensive regulation or do
you want to not have this expensive regulation? Vote on it.
I don't see a problem with that. That's actually disheartening
right there.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Well, what's interesting, though, is this isn't unique.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, AFP's leading the charge on this rainback reforms
across the country. Over twenty states have introduced or pass
reforms this year alone, just the first six months of
this year. States like Kentucky with Andy Basheer, no surprise,
he vetoed it. The legislature came back and slapped him down,
although they're only a simple majority. But Wyoming, even with
Republican governors Wyoming vetoed. They came back and slapped him down.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
And so this actually.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It's kind of a dramatic finish to these sorts of
reg reform ideas. Right when the executive says I don't
want more oversight, and the legislature.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Comes back and overrides them.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I think that's the idea behind those bills, right, is
that the legislature has that oversight, and if the governor
sees fit to veto it, I think it's right for
the legislature to come back and reassert their authority.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
It's why they put it in the bill in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Amen, brother, And with your encouragement from Americans for Prosperity,
maybe they would do just that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Pause.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
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Chuck Ingram on fifty five KR seed the talk station.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Seven thirty nine fifty five KERR see talks and talk
station for Americans for Prosperity. Donovan Hills speaking about the
various dwine vetos which can be overridden. As he explained
in the last segments, you need to come back and
do it. You picked out some other ones at AFP
that you want to override, Donovan, What might they be?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Well, proper tax I mean, we've talked about this on
the show before, Brian. You hear it wherever you go,
from coffee shops to doors, which we do a lot
of doors here at AFP, talking to voters, to roundtable
events with legislators. There's a property text crisis here in
the state of Ohio. The legislature put a number of provisions.
These weren't just ideas that they were trying to see
(09:21):
if they'd.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Stick to the wall.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Last year, Brian, the legislature had a select committee that
came together, heard hours, hundreds of hours of testimony from
various groups, and developed they believe it was twenty one
recommendation list that was brought into this session. That list
was used to then develop dozens of pieces of legislation
that again got hundreds of hours of vetting and public
(09:44):
testimony and discussion in the State House over the last
six months. These ideas that were in this budget bill,
these handful of ideas are in this budget bill addressing
the property text crisis or among some of the most vetted,
well respected, kind of a read upon ideas to resolve
not just the problem immediately, but also make some of
(10:04):
the structural changes. For some unknown reasons, still, the governor
saw fit to just strip those from the budget. His
argument was, we need to have a little more vetting
and bring together a working group to kind of solve
this property tax problem here in the state.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
It's insane to me.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He was quoted as saying, I mean, first off, property
tax increases across will have strained many family budgets and
danger of the financial security of many unfixed incomes, no kidding.
Then he pivots over to the various vetos that he
did that were addressed to that problem. These ideas were thoughtful,
but I was also concerned that imposing them, now, all
of them at once, on our local schools would create
(10:42):
a huge, huge problem. Huh So more about the schools
and the elderly.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, yeah, yeah, the problem is here and now right
the Ohioans are facing the risk of losing their homes
because of out of control property taxes. The crisis is here,
The problem is now, and the legislature put a handful
of solutions. There's more to be done, quite honestly, but
the legislature puts some solutions in to release some of
that pressure and give folks some breathing room. All of
(11:13):
that left on the cutting room floor, Well, well, what
these what these would have done these These aren't really
controversial ideas either, right, right, It's ideas like saying, hey,
you know, we're going to empower the county budget Commission,
these local elected officials who oversee the budgets in a county,
to have some additional oversight to say, hey, if you
(11:36):
if you're sitting on a large amount of cash balance
as a local government taxpayer dollars, and you're coming back
from more money to the taxpayers, you actually maybe you
shouldn't do that, right and being able to tell them
don't do that. You can't go get more money from
the taxpayers right now until you spend the money already
are sitting on from them. Things like that provide that
immediate relief. But vetoed, vetoed, As you can tell, it's
(12:02):
a little frustrating.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, I mean, there was one provision that would have
changed the authority of county budget commissions, allowing them to
unilaterally shrink a school district's levy passed by the voters.
I suppose that would apply in circumstances where the school
really doesn't need the money, given the cash reserves they
have they're sitting on, sitting on. Then they had the
cash balance carryover provision, which he vetoed, would have put
a forty percent cap in a school district carryover revenue
(12:24):
or the unspent funds of a district that they have
on hand at the end of a fiscal year. In
other words, they didn't spend what of the one hundred
percent revenue that they were entitled to, so they're sitting
on that. Then you can't ask for more and you
got to give back to the taxpayers anything over the
forty percent.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, Well, the idea you're right is we wouldn't be
happy if Columbus was sitting on gobs of cash and
still taking money from our paychecks.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
And sales tax and other mechanisms are.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Right, and quite frankically, they haven't.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Columbus has cut taxes over the last decade. We've gone
from nine tax brackets now we're down to one of
a rated two point seventy five percent. What was the
last time you heard of a school board, a city,
a county government actually lowering.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Taxes on its citizens.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I've yet to.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Find that government that's done it among the thirty nine hundred.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
In the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Legitimate point.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Donovan O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, hopefully you get them herded up, rounded back into
Columbus and start voting on overriding vetos. Good luck with
the effort, donovan on behalf of all the property taxpayers
and of course people who are in favor of some
school choice and the like. Get to work, my friend,
round those cats up.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
We're going to shoot some fireworks this Friday for the
fourth of July, and then we'll be out there getting
folks to get this done over the summer, in full months.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'm sure you will any any call to action, Donovanil
Forty Park Company today.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, first and foremost, just contact your state representative, your
state senator, thank them for making OHIOI slat tax state,
and then encourage them to get out there and finish
the job on property taxes.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Amen, brother, appreciate what you do, Donovanil. Look forward to
having you back on the program another week and have
a fantastic Independence Day. The I'm my County Veteran Services
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