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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven thirty fifty five Carsey Detalk Station. Happy Wednesday. It's
that time of the week we talk with Americans for Prosperity.
Donovan and Eil Donovan, welcome back to the fifty five
Kossey Morning Show. My friend, it's always a pleasure having
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So, one small step for a man, one giant lea
for mankind, it's time for a one small step campaign.
Let's talk about this. You've launched this new campaign. What's
it all about, Donovan?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, as we say, every giant leap begins with one
small step, and we've actually had our one Small Step
campaign for a number of months now, but we're sort
of kicking it off with renewed vigor and the run
up to next year's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
the United States, and we've set out a challenge we're
launching today that is every AFP chapter, every state in
(00:47):
the country, we're gonna be looking to mobilize two hundred
and fifty thousand actions, two hundred and fifty thousand small
steps if you will, to make a difference in the
run up to next July fourth, America's two hundred and
fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's a big carry on.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Dacis School, Brian, but it's one that we think we're
well positioned to do and we think can help reignite
the American dream for so many folks from coast to coast.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, you point out, and I saw the study myself.
It's a sad reality, the reality that the gallop pole
showing only fifty eight percent of US adults are proud
to be Americans. I mean, I think we've this is
an important campaign. I truly embrace what you're doing here
because I think we've lost our sense of reality relativity.
(01:30):
People don't pay attention to how terrible things are in
other countries, so they more fully appreciate the freedoms and
liberties that are well quick while quickly eroding, we still
enjoy here in America. We've lost sight of something that
I think is so truly and fundamentally important. It's like
basically embodied in the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh absolutely, and you know we see it a lot, right,
you have that we run into that political malaise, right
folks would say, well, my voice isn't going to make
a difference. Yeah, you know, if I go out and
knock that door. Is that really going to have an
impact if I even go vote Brian? That gonna does
that tip the scales of power in Washington and set
things on the right direction. And so we combat that
every day. But you know, part of the campaign and
(02:09):
our folks who who've developed this and come up with
some of the messaging and some of the promotional materials
will be rolling.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Out around this.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's got a phenomenal job I think of tapping into
that American spirit, and no one better than Neil Armstrong
to start with.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's who you know why we're launching it this.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Week is because he coined that phrase, right, one small
step for mankind one or one small step from out
one giant lea for mankind.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I pushed it totally, Brian. But the point there is
we all know.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It, and it still you know, it fires up this
sense of the American spirit and the folks who say it,
who hear it, and that's what we're wanting to tap
into with this campaign.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Actually, I maybe find fault with that one as an
analogy because although you know, we the United States of America,
did send him into the moon and he did land
on the moon, he did jump and walk on the moon. First,
there's a major accomplisation that was a large government program
funded by taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Thought of it, but it was a lot of Americans
who came together.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know. I think where we tapped.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Into that vision is, you know, as a country, right,
we united around that idea. And it's hard to kind
of point to in recent history some ideas whereas Americans
we've just sort of collectively united around them.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We find ourselves divided and separated on so many issues.
But I think if we can kind of get ourselves
together around these and I think we're going to be
highlighting some of those different ideas and where where we
see these these opportunities for Americans to come together and
and sort of reignite those founding principles that our country
(03:42):
was started upon two hundred and fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, and I appreciate that one of the things you're
going to be doing with this one Small Step campaign
is spotlighting American visionaries, inventors, the entrepreneurs that took the
challenge and you know, bid off some potent downside risk
and got around the challenges they face and created something
(04:05):
of really significant value for well, the population generally speaking.
You know, inventors, for example, they create something that's wonderful.
You know, maybe a vaccine or a cure for something,
or you know, somebody created the internet at one point.
How transformational was that? But I hope that at some
point in the AFP, and I know you're giving your
goals and your mission statement, you will be focusing on this.
(04:27):
But what drove these people to do that? And I
would point out and on the heels of Jack Avan
in my conversation, that is the opportunity to for wealth,
to make something that people want to make, something that
will go out into the world that people will buy.
So you become wealthy, and then you can employ other
people and keep this great American dream going, I mean,
and share that by employing people. And that's one of
(04:49):
the great things about you know, capitalism.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Oh absolutely, And it's what has made our country so
exceptional for the years that it's that it's existed, Right,
it's idea that you know, folks have an idea at
a core level, they want to make something better for society.
They see a problem, and when they solve that problem,
they create wealth. They create opportunity, not just for themselves
in their families, which is a marvelous thing. But they
(05:15):
do it for the people in their community right. The jobs,
the opportunity that they create then creates more opportunity. It's
this these cycles of mutual benefit, Brian, the opportunity that
comes from a nation that, at its core principles believes
that life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness is what
it's all about. And those founding principles that are articulated
(05:38):
in the decoration of Atpendence and our nation's constitutions or
our founding documents, that's what enables those folks, those innovators,
those entrepreneurs, those job creators, to do what they do
and has made us a country of exceptionalism for so
many years.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, but you know, Donovan, it's just not fair that
someone makes money. It's not fair in spite of the
fact that all their labor, all their effort, and all
their trials and and and quite often multiple failures after
failure after failure, they keep driving toward it and then
they accomplish something and somebody else wants to stick their
hand in the pocket of the entrepreneur and take it
(06:14):
from them, just because find that's so effencive it well.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And that's part of what we're gonna do, right. I
think we're gonna be work through this campaign. We're going
to do a good job, I hope, of talking about
the history, talking about the foundational principles that our organization
and bodies and that makes our nation great. But through that,
you know, we're actually we're an organization of action. We're
not just going to spend a year providing a history lesson.
We're going to be challenging folks to take action along
(06:42):
the way, right because as you know, we know.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
That for those.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Freedom and liberties are are fleeting, and we have so
much red tape and regulation in this country and in
this state, we have so much taxation, right, government coming
in taking money out of one person's pocket and trying
to put it in someone else's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It makes it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Hard for entrepreneurs, innovators, creators to be successful, let alone
hardworking blue collar americ Ohioans. Right, And so we're going
to be using this campaign as additionally as an opportunity
to talk about those issues, those areas for reform, the
ways we move Ohio from middle of the Midwest to
number one in the nation in AFP, Ohio get the
forefront of that conversation the website.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Take one small step dot com any calls to action
for my listeners beyond heading over to the website and
checking it out.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, head over the website, sol that information out, and
when our team members reach out to you to take
action and get involved, to take your one small step
take them up on it. From calling your state representatives
to tell them to override the governor's misguided vetos. Yeah,
joining us at the state House. Take that small step,
whatever it is, it makes an impact and it makes
a difference. So we need two hundred and fifty thousand
(07:50):
of them here in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I know my listeners will heed the challenge. Take one
small step dot com, get in touch with the website
and help by doing just one small effort in that direction. Donaldleneo,
speaking of veto overrides, is going to bring you back
in the next segment to talk about where we are
on that and what else we can do to assist
in the effort to provide a some measure of property
tax relief, as small as it may be. I'll take
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It is seven forty three to fifty five KRCIT talk
station Brian Thomas with Americans for Prosperities Donovan and Eil Donovan.
You alluded to it call to action us calling our
representatives and exposed senators in Columbus and telling them to
override Mike Dwain's vetos at least related to the three
property texts relief provisions that were in the bill that
he vetoed. Anything beyond that and where where do you
(10:38):
stand on that? If you had interactions with the representatives
or senators to find out where they are on overriding
the veto.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, we've been That's sort of what we've been doing
right now is having a lot of conversations with numbers
of the General Assembly, particularly state representatives. Because the way
that the veto override process works is it has to
originate in the chamber where the bill came out of
and so because the budget starts in the House House
Bill ninety seven, the House has to take the first
action and do the first round of veto overrides. Then
(11:05):
it goes to the Senate, and really, honestly, the House
is where the challenge lies because it takes sixty votes.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You have sixty votes.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Republicans have a sixty five member majority in the House,
and so while that gives you a five vote buffer,
there's still a handful of folks right who might be
out of town or sick or whatever unknown reason decide
they don't want to vote on this thing, or want
to play games. And so it is an important sort
of rallying effort, and there's an opportunity for grassroots to
(11:35):
have an outsized impact, which is what our team's doing
in events and rallying folks.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Up and telephone.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Town hall is one of the things we've been hosting
around the state this week.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Good is there any opposition to the provisions? I mean,
they were in there to start with, and I still can't,
for the like me, figure out why Mike de want
and veto them, considering they were the subject matter of
a full year's worth of research and study.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, and talking to some folks, I think what I've
heard is Dwine sort of didn't expect the backlash.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That has come from this.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And that's what most folks who've been paying attention to
what's going on in Columbus have said, is like these
were things that were well fed.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Literally, I'm not being facetious. Here hundreds of hours of
public testimony from organizations left right and center, citizens, local
government officials, representatives all talking about these issues and the
four pieces of property tax form and these, by the way, Brian,
aren't the kinds of things that are you know, going
to deliver major transformation over bullets.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They're steps the measures that may help provide at least
provide some flexibility to maybe get bring about some property
tax relief. Maybe they won't, but at least they provide
some flexibility to provide that relief.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Absolutely, and so they're they're meaningful, but they are They're
not controversial. These are things that have been discussed and
it's about really resetting the equation. And that's what the
state legislature can do on this property tax crisis is
create a structure that puts the taxpayers back in the
dominant position. Where right now, the thirty nine hundred political
(13:10):
subdivisions and they're tens of thousands of lobbyists across the
state of Ohio are in the dominant position. They have
the advantage over the taxpayer right now. They don't want
to change that. At the legislature through the budget was
going to change some of the rules and the governor
to wine vetoed some of those changes that would have
been to the benefit of the property tax payer here
in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is the shame.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's why we're so happy to see July twenty first
the House comeback for a veto override session.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right and Okay, so on one side, the budget passed
with the provision, so one would logically think there'll be
enough votes to override the vetos. So that's one effort
we need to engage in because, of course, as you mentioned,
you need sixty people to do it. Are Democrats against those?
I mean, listen, it doesn't matter what political stripe you are.
Your property tax bill has gone through the roof, So
if it's going to maybe provide some benefit, it will
(13:58):
provide benefit to Democrats as well as Republicans.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Mean, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I was just think the only the only thing that
I would think who would be arguing against it is
maybe the teachers unions because somehow it might impact the
amount of money that the schools get. But beyond that,
is there any organized effort to oppose the vetos?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, that's what Yeah, You're you're spot on there, Brian.
The largest outside voices on this issue are teachers, unions
and the organizations that represent all these political subdivisions, the schools,
the school board officials, the townships, the villages, the cities,
all that. But here's the interesting thing. Well, policy can
(14:41):
be good, we know how this plays out. There's politics
always at play here. Yeah, and so the Democrat minority
has while they understand the property tax issue and they
I think which support should support these issues these items
because they've been part of those conversations, politics is at play, right, Yeah.
Beyond that, we see this play out on the federal level.
(15:02):
We even got Republicans, Brian who use this as an
opportunity to'll try to leverage or parlay influence or power
at the quite frankly, at the cost of the property
tax payer here in the state of Ohio. And so,
just like we see on the federal level with Lisa
Mkowski and others who play games on recisions packages that
should be slammed dunks for Republicans exactly on spending restraint,
(15:24):
we've got Republicans in Ohio too who try to play
those similar games and disrupt an opportunity to really one
let Governor de Wine know he's wrong in his vetos,
but two begin to deliver some relief for Ohioans when
it comes to their property tax bills.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, that's why we get a gut on the phone
and write letters or otherwise contact our elected officials in Columbus.
Donald O'Neil, the question still looming large for me out there,
why in the hell did the wine veto those provisions?
I meant, his argument for doing it is it needs
to be studied, and he's put together this focus group
to study on it. That's what was happening last year.
That's how they came up with all the various suggestions.
(16:02):
So I guess three or four of which actually made
it into the legislation.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I just don't get it, Donovan. I guess I never will.
But then again, Mike, the wine has remained a mystery
to me for a lot of reasons. Donald and Neil,
Americans for Prosperity. Get over to the website, take one
small step dot com and fill out the form and
get on the lists that you can help out as well.
It's always great having you on, and I applaud the
work that you and the team at AFP do every week.
(16:26):
And I look forward to talking with you again next week.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Donovan Ran always appreciate you string your megaphone with me.
Have a great week.
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Seven thirty fifty five Carsey Detalk Station. Happy Wednesday. It's
that time of the week we talk with Americans for Prosperity.
Donovan and Eil Donovan, welcome back to the fifty five
Kossey Morning Show. My friend, it's always a pleasure having
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So, one small step for a man, one giant lea
for mankind, it's time for a one small step campaign.
Let's talk about this. You've launched this new campaign. What's
it all about, Donovan?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, as we say, every giant leap begins with one
small step, and we've actually had our one Small Step
campaign for a number of months now, but we're sort
of kicking it off with renewed vigor and the run
up to next year's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
the United States, and we've set out a challenge we're
launching today that is every AFP chapter, every state in
(00:47):
the country, we're gonna be looking to mobilize two hundred
and fifty thousand actions, two hundred and fifty thousand small
steps if you will, to make a difference in the
run up to next July fourth, America's two hundred and
fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's a big carry on.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Dacis School, Brian, but it's one that we think we're
well positioned to do and we think can help reignite
the American dream for so many folks from coast to coast.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, you point out, and I saw the study myself.
It's a sad reality, the reality that the gallop pole
showing only fifty eight percent of US adults are proud
to be Americans. I mean, I think we've this is
an important campaign. I truly embrace what you're doing here
because I think we've lost our sense of reality relativity.
(01:30):
People don't pay attention to how terrible things are in
other countries, so they more fully appreciate the freedoms and
liberties that are well quick while quickly eroding, we still
enjoy here in America. We've lost sight of something that
I think is so truly and fundamentally important. It's like
basically embodied in the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh absolutely, and you know we see it a lot, right,
you have that we run into that political malaise, right
folks would say, well, my voice isn't going to make
a difference. Yeah, you know, if I go out and
knock that door. Is that really going to have an
impact if I even go vote Brian? That gonna does
that tip the scales of power in Washington and set
things on the right direction. And so we combat that
every day. But you know, part of the campaign and
(02:09):
our folks who who've developed this and come up with
some of the messaging and some of the promotional materials
will be rolling.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Out around this.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's got a phenomenal job I think of tapping into
that American spirit, and no one better than Neil Armstrong
to start with.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's who you know why we're launching it this.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Week is because he coined that phrase, right, one small
step for mankind one or one small step from out
one giant lea for mankind.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I pushed it totally, Brian. But the point there is
we all know.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It, and it still you know, it fires up this
sense of the American spirit and the folks who say it,
who hear it, and that's what we're wanting to tap
into with this campaign.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Actually, I maybe find fault with that one as an
analogy because although you know, we the United States of America,
did send him into the moon and he did land
on the moon, he did jump and walk on the moon. First,
there's a major accomplisation that was a large government program
funded by taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Thought of it, but it was a lot of Americans
who came together.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know. I think where we tapped.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Into that vision is, you know, as a country, right,
we united around that idea. And it's hard to kind
of point to in recent history some ideas whereas Americans
we've just sort of collectively united around them.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We find ourselves divided and separated on so many issues.
But I think if we can kind of get ourselves
together around these and I think we're going to be
highlighting some of those different ideas and where where we
see these these opportunities for Americans to come together and
and sort of reignite those founding principles that our country
(03:42):
was started upon two hundred and fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, and I appreciate that one of the things you're
going to be doing with this one Small Step campaign
is spotlighting American visionaries, inventors, the entrepreneurs that took the
challenge and you know, bid off some potent downside risk
and got around the challenges they face and created something
(04:05):
of really significant value for well, the population generally speaking.
You know, inventors, for example, they create something that's wonderful.
You know, maybe a vaccine or a cure for something,
or you know, somebody created the internet at one point.
How transformational was that? But I hope that at some
point in the AFP, and I know you're giving your
goals and your mission statement, you will be focusing on this.
(04:27):
But what drove these people to do that? And I
would point out and on the heels of Jack Avan
in my conversation, that is the opportunity to for wealth,
to make something that people want to make, something that
will go out into the world that people will buy.
So you become wealthy, and then you can employ other
people and keep this great American dream going, I mean,
and share that by employing people. And that's one of
(04:49):
the great things about you know, capitalism.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Oh absolutely, And it's what has made our country so
exceptional for the years that it's that it's existed, Right,
it's idea that you know, folks have an idea at
a core level, they want to make something better for society.
They see a problem, and when they solve that problem,
they create wealth. They create opportunity, not just for themselves
in their families, which is a marvelous thing. But they
(05:15):
do it for the people in their community right. The jobs,
the opportunity that they create then creates more opportunity. It's
this these cycles of mutual benefit, Brian, the opportunity that
comes from a nation that, at its core principles believes
that life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness is what
it's all about. And those founding principles that are articulated
(05:38):
in the decoration of Atpendence and our nation's constitutions or
our founding documents, that's what enables those folks, those innovators,
those entrepreneurs, those job creators, to do what they do
and has made us a country of exceptionalism for so
many years.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, but you know, Donovan, it's just not fair that
someone makes money. It's not fair in spite of the
fact that all their labor, all their effort, and all
their trials and and and quite often multiple failures after
failure after failure, they keep driving toward it and then
they accomplish something and somebody else wants to stick their
hand in the pocket of the entrepreneur and take it
(06:14):
from them, just because find that's so effencive it well.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And that's part of what we're gonna do, right. I
think we're gonna be work through this campaign. We're going
to do a good job, I hope, of talking about
the history, talking about the foundational principles that our organization
and bodies and that makes our nation great. But through that,
you know, we're actually we're an organization of action. We're
not just going to spend a year providing a history lesson.
We're going to be challenging folks to take action along
(06:42):
the way, right because as you know, we know.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
That for those.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Freedom and liberties are are fleeting, and we have so
much red tape and regulation in this country and in
this state, we have so much taxation, right, government coming
in taking money out of one person's pocket and trying
to put it in someone else's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It makes it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Hard for entrepreneurs, innovators, creators to be successful, let alone
hardworking blue collar americ Ohioans. Right, And so we're going
to be using this campaign as additionally as an opportunity
to talk about those issues, those areas for reform, the
ways we move Ohio from middle of the Midwest to
number one in the nation in AFP, Ohio get the
forefront of that conversation the website.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Take one small step dot com any calls to action
for my listeners beyond heading over to the website and
checking it out.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, head over the website, sol that information out, and
when our team members reach out to you to take
action and get involved, to take your one small step
take them up on it. From calling your state representatives
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Speaker 1 (10:15):
It is seven forty three to fifty five KRCIT talk
station Brian Thomas with Americans for Prosperities Donovan and Eil Donovan.
You alluded to it call to action us calling our
representatives and exposed senators in Columbus and telling them to
override Mike Dwain's vetos at least related to the three
property texts relief provisions that were in the bill that
he vetoed. Anything beyond that and where where do you
(10:38):
stand on that? If you had interactions with the representatives
or senators to find out where they are on overriding
the veto.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, we've been That's sort of what we've been doing
right now is having a lot of conversations with numbers
of the General Assembly, particularly state representatives. Because the way
that the veto override process works is it has to
originate in the chamber where the bill came out of
and so because the budget starts in the House House
Bill ninety seven, the House has to take the first
action and do the first round of veto overrides. Then
(11:05):
it goes to the Senate, and really, honestly, the House
is where the challenge lies because it takes sixty votes.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You have sixty votes.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Republicans have a sixty five member majority in the House,
and so while that gives you a five vote buffer,
there's still a handful of folks right who might be
out of town or sick or whatever unknown reason decide
they don't want to vote on this thing, or want
to play games. And so it is an important sort
of rallying effort, and there's an opportunity for grassroots to
(11:35):
have an outsized impact, which is what our team's doing
in events and rallying folks.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Up and telephone.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Town hall is one of the things we've been hosting
around the state this week.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Good is there any opposition to the provisions? I mean,
they were in there to start with, and I still can't,
for the like me, figure out why Mike de want
and veto them, considering they were the subject matter of
a full year's worth of research and study.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, and talking to some folks, I think what I've
heard is Dwine sort of didn't expect the backlash.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That has come from this.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And that's what most folks who've been paying attention to
what's going on in Columbus have said, is like these
were things that were well fed.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Literally, I'm not being facetious. Here hundreds of hours of
public testimony from organizations left right and center, citizens, local
government officials, representatives all talking about these issues and the
four pieces of property tax form and these, by the way, Brian,
aren't the kinds of things that are you know, going
to deliver major transformation over bullets.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They're steps the measures that may help provide at least
provide some flexibility to maybe get bring about some property
tax relief. Maybe they won't, but at least they provide
some flexibility to provide that relief.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Absolutely, and so they're they're meaningful, but they are They're
not controversial. These are things that have been discussed and
it's about really resetting the equation. And that's what the
state legislature can do on this property tax crisis is
create a structure that puts the taxpayers back in the
dominant position. Where right now, the thirty nine hundred political
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subdivisions and they're tens of thousands of lobbyists across the
state of Ohio are in the dominant position. They have
the advantage over the taxpayer right now. They don't want
to change that. At the legislature through the budget was
going to change some of the rules and the governor
to wine vetoed some of those changes that would have
been to the benefit of the property tax payer here
in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is the shame.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's why we're so happy to see July twenty first
the House comeback for a veto override session.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right and Okay, so on one side, the budget passed
with the provision, so one would logically think there'll be
enough votes to override the vetos. So that's one effort
we need to engage in because, of course, as you mentioned,
you need sixty people to do it. Are Democrats against those?
I mean, listen, it doesn't matter what political stripe you are.
Your property tax bill has gone through the roof, So
if it's going to maybe provide some benefit, it will
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provide benefit to Democrats as well as Republicans.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Mean, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I was just think the only the only thing that
I would think who would be arguing against it is
maybe the teachers unions because somehow it might impact the
amount of money that the schools get. But beyond that,
is there any organized effort to oppose the vetos?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, that's what Yeah, You're you're spot on there, Brian.
The largest outside voices on this issue are teachers, unions
and the organizations that represent all these political subdivisions, the schools,
the school board officials, the townships, the villages, the cities,
all that. But here's the interesting thing. Well, policy can
(14:41):
be good, we know how this plays out. There's politics
always at play here. Yeah, and so the Democrat minority
has while they understand the property tax issue and they
I think which support should support these issues these items
because they've been part of those conversations, politics is at play, right, Yeah.
Beyond that, we see this play out on the federal level.
(15:02):
We even got Republicans, Brian who use this as an
opportunity to'll try to leverage or parlay influence or power
at the quite frankly, at the cost of the property
tax payer here in the state of Ohio. And so,
just like we see on the federal level with Lisa
Mkowski and others who play games on recisions packages that
should be slammed dunks for Republicans exactly on spending restraint,
(15:24):
we've got Republicans in Ohio too who try to play
those similar games and disrupt an opportunity to really one
let Governor de Wine know he's wrong in his vetos,
but two begin to deliver some relief for Ohioans when
it comes to their property tax bills.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, that's why we get a gut on the phone
and write letters or otherwise contact our elected officials in Columbus.
Donald O'Neil, the question still looming large for me out there,
why in the hell did the wine veto those provisions?
I meant, his argument for doing it is it needs
to be studied, and he's put together this focus group
to study on it. That's what was happening last year.
That's how they came up with all the various suggestions.
(16:02):
So I guess three or four of which actually made
it into the legislation.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I just don't get it, Donovan. I guess I never will.
But then again, Mike, the wine has remained a mystery
to me for a lot of reasons. Donald and Neil,
Americans for Prosperity. Get over to the website, take one
small step dot com and fill out the form and
get on the lists that you can help out as well.
It's always great having you on, and I applaud the
work that you and the team at AFP do every week.
(16:26):
And I look forward to talking with you again next week.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Donovan Ran always appreciate you string your megaphone with me.
Have a great week.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
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