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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Coming up on seven thirty here if if you're gout
care see the talk station. I'm a very happy Wednesday
to you. One hour from now. Judge Ennita Paula Tana
back from vacation, preceded by Judge Betsy Sunneman from Domestic
Relations Court, saying curfews don't work. In the meantime, it's
that time a week we get to talk with Americans
for Prosperities. Donovan and Neil Donovan, welcome back to the
(00:24):
program Sir. It's always good hearing from you, Brian. Always
a pleasure to be with you on Wednesday morning. And
I know since Columbus they're on recess. You guys at
AFP aren't doing anything. You kick your feet up and
you don't do Jack squat when they're on vacation, do you.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You know, it's when there's not what it's not policy
season or politics season. We're just we're just chilling on
the beach.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And I guess no rest for the weary at AFP.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They're hit.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
They're trying to rally rally every one of my listening
audience and everybody across the great State of Ohio to
get engaged even by doing just something small because going
back to my analogy for my con law professor, a
fleet urinating in the Pacific, in terms of increasing the volume,
every little bit counts. So baby steps are very important.
(01:12):
Even small ones can go a long way in large volumes.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Absolutely, and so yeah, we're you know, Cap Square and
Capitol Hill may not be in action right now, you
know there's not.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
An impending state or federal election.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But you know what fuels our operation, that makes us
so impactful in those moments is our grassroots army. The
folks like your listeners, Brian, who you know come alongside us,
whether it's sending an email to their state representative to
override Governor Dewines Vetos, to members who knocked doors with
us in support of a candidate to help flip the
(01:49):
balance of power in Washington. It's the small steps each
one of those folks takes, and it's why we've launched
this one Small Step campaign. I've been on talking about
it before, but we're going to beat this drum all
the way through next year year like we always do,
because we've got a really important date coming up. It's
America's twohunter and fiftieth birthday next year, and we're capitalizing
on that to help drive a renewed sense of patriotism
(02:11):
and drive folks back and inspire them to take action,
just like our founding fathers did when they started this
great nation.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, and there are a variety of ways people can
do that you mentioned probably one of the easiest ones.
Just take a few moments of time and contact your
elected officials, your representatives, your senators, even you want to
send the governor an email knock yourself out. But it's
an easy way to do it. And I've had lots
of conversation with you, and a lot of conversations with politicians.
They really don't get that much by way of communications
(02:42):
from their constituents. I mean, you know, if they get
fifteen emails on one subject that's like a banner day
or something, they're like, oh my god, what's going on
out there that I got so much? And you're thinking, like,
wait a second. You represent thousands and thousands of people,
and a big day for you is getting a week
for you? Is getting like fifteen people reaching out on
one issue that I mean that that speaks volumes to
(03:03):
the opportunity for my listening audience to help out.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh, it's so true. I mean we had so we've
had so many members throughout this session. When we put
an action alert out on property text issue, or on
rains regulatory issue, or on moving on hot to a
flat tax. So many members will tell us when we're
when we're talking to them, or we'll bring activists to
the Statehouse and we'll say, actually, you know, I got
emails from AFP and activists like you. It's good to
(03:28):
actually see some of you go in person to know
it's not just Donovan sending me a lot of emails
right right, shakingly, that stuff has a real impact. And
because yeah, you know they can they know right, their
staff read those Their staff either send them onto the
members or summarize it for the members, depending on sort
of how that office operates. Either way, when they get
(03:49):
a lot of emails on a particular piece of legislation
or on a topic, yeah, they that sends up a signal.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Right, it's a radar for them.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And because it's not just them receipt You're you're representative
seeing it, it's reper senatives across the state receiving it.
And so they talk, right, and then they realize, hey,
this is something that people care about. We got to
do something here. It's powerful stuff, Brian, and it's just again,
it's simple, small steps that have different levels of impact
that ultimately result in substantial change. Ideally, if you're working
(04:18):
with us towards freedom and liberty for the better of
the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well and Americans for Prosperity has the tools to help
people accomplish these quote unquote small steps. Because I'm looking
at your site right now, Americans for Prosperity dot org.
There's a click that you can link onto the small
Step campaign and ask you the question, how would you
like to get involved? I'd like to, And then there
here's some options for you to help to put together
community events, build strong community coalition groups, speak out on
(04:43):
social media, hold politicians accountable, contact my representative. We already
address that. Talk to voters at the doors, call voters
about issues and candidates. I'd like to meet with the
team member of AFP if you want to do one
of these, Like I'd love to put together a community events.
I don't have I don't know where to even think
about starting to do that. You guys will help.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, yeah, that's one of the things I always, you know,
I'll talk to the local groups, especially this time of
year where they're working to fight local issues or campaigns,
and I'll say, well, you know, before you even get
before AFP as an organization even puts its label on
it or starts getting involved, how about we just grab
some coffee, some pastries, and let's just talk.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
About what your plan is.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We've got full time staff, right, We're blessed to be
staffed with some of Ohio's best community organizers, political operatives,
conservative leaders who are here to help folks who are
working on the issues that they care about. Right, Folks
like Adam Boying and Southwest Ohio is consistently meeting with
different groups.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
George brunhaman, I know a good friend of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know, we sit down with these groups and a
lot of these a lot of the biggest impact happens
from these local leaders who see a problem in their community.
They want us, they want to tackle them and solve it,
and so they come together to get it done. Our
team stands are ready to help provide that that mentorship,
that support so that you, as a listener of the
Ran Thomas show wright, can go out and be that
(06:02):
leader be that change maker in your community so that
we can again move this state to a more bolder,
better Buckeye state like we talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And if you don't want to be a community leader
and an outspoken advocate for it, there's an easy solution
there for a baby step. Just contact your elected official
and let your voice be known. This property tax thing,
I had a post show interview with Bill sidyesterday, who's
on that committee to analyze, you know, the issues, the
Governor's Committee on Property Tax. So we'll air that one
maybe tomorrow. I'm not quite sure, but I brought up
(06:33):
the issue. You know, we have this repeal property tax
in Ohio ballot initiative that may change the constitution of
the United States, and that won't be on the ballot
until next year, looks like. But you know, I'm not
sure where AFP is on that conceptually. But if they
don't act, and if they don't get something substantive done
by way of property tax relief legislative wise, or however
(06:54):
they accomplish it, that's going to be a real train
wreck if we all vote to get rid of property taxes.
I think it's it's interesting as a concept to discuss
it but I think his figure was, well, we're going
to have to come up with twenty three billion dollars
in lost property tax revenue to fund all the schools
and all these things that benefit from property tax. And
I mentioned the sales tax during the conversation. He said,
(07:15):
we'd have to raise a sales tax to like twenty
cents on the dollar to make up for the lost volume.
So that doesn't seem like an attainable solution, but it's
going to be a real problem if they don't get
something right accomplished and we end up eliminating it, it's
going to be chaotic.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, I think that's right, and that's that's a very
real threat that's sort of damnically hanging over yeah State
of Ohio's head right now. But you know, I think
it's also important to point out the legislature has been
doing a lot of this work. Yeah, there are a
number of legislative vehicles that have been introduced that would
actually both provide immediate relief and structural reform. They'll keep
(07:56):
this problem from reoccurring. Unfortunately, though, you know, I'll point
a finger blame here. It's the local political subdivision lobbyists,
all of the school board officials, teachers, unions, township officials,
village all of these folks. Right, We've got thirty nine
hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio, each one
of those represented by a board of elected officials, paid
(08:18):
elected officials ranging from three to seven members, not to
mention the administrators and all of the bureaucrats that exist
within those thirty nine hundred political subdivisions across.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The state of Ohio.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Those are literally tens of thousands of paid taxpayer, paid
lobbyists who win your state representatives, your state senators go
to do their work. Those lobbyists descend upon Columbus. Yeah,
and put that pressure on it, say we'd want the
status quo. Do not make change, do not harm us,
do not give the taxpayers and voters an edge when
(08:53):
it comes to deciding if.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Their taxes are going to go up or not.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
We liked unvoted tax increases on our citizens because we
need that, Brian, that's the problem. And the legal nature
is acting and has been courageous and doing work. And
when they get a couple of things into the state
budget and the governor vetos them, puts a working group together.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, if we got to get something done. We've set
that back at best three months from reform happening.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And so you can't both say you you know, some
of these folks like Bill Sites can't both say hey,
we've got this threat and pending, we got to act
and then also be cool with the actions the governor
has taken to veto and stop any reform from happening.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So the problem in.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Ohio, in simple terms, is we have too dang much
local government. Local accessible government is good, but we have
thirty nine hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's the fifth most in the nation. And that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And if we want to really fix the system, we
got to kind of address that glaring issue somewhere along
the line.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You can help out. Every little bit counts. Americans for
Prosperity dot org. Start there, click on the link and
you will find yourself on the right page to help
make a difference. AFP is there to help you accomplish
the goal. And as a team, a large team of
a lot of squeaky wheels, maybe we can get some
effective work done here in the state for the benefit
(10:15):
of all of us. Donovan and Neil Americans for prosperity.
Keep up the hard work and you're at it even
when Columbus is on vacation. Hey man, that's right. Always
looking forward to having you on the program. So keep
up the wonderful work. And I again will encourage my
listeners to reach out to you and help out in
any way they can always appreciate. Thanks, Brian, take care
(10:36):
of my brother seven forty. Right now if you have
Kerr CD talk station and joking up at the phone
line five one three seven eight two three talk pound
five fifty on at and T phone stick aroun because
after the top of the our news we're here from
Judge Betsy Sunderman. Curfews don't work, she says, What do
you think she's going to say about taking the red
bikes off the street? Joe Jimney Care Fireplaces though operated
(11:00):
since nineteen eighty eight a plus with the better business,
they know what they're doing and they can service all
relate all things related to fireboxes, whether it's a gas
or woodburning stove, free standing stove, your traditional chimney with
the regular fireplace, would the self feeding wood waste pellet
stoves and for the wood burning units out there, whatever
(11:21):
kind of wood burning thing you got, take advantage of
the special don't let your house burn down get a
woodburning sweep in evaluation for just one hundred and sixty
nine ninety nine, a special that's still going on right now.
When they will come over with a certified chimney sweep,
do a full video camera inspection of your chimney to
make sure there hasn't been any damage, like, for example,
from a prior chimney fire. You may not even know
(11:42):
that that happened. The creosode catches on fire, it can
very well burn your house down. You don't want that happening,
So while you're not using it, get it serviced so
you can comfortably, safely and with confidence enjoy that fire
when the temperatures drop down to fireplace temperatures five one
three two four eight ninety six hundred two four eight
ninety six hundred. Book your appointment online and learn more
(12:03):
about what they do and what they sell on the showroom.
Go to Chimneycareco dot.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Com fifty five KRC. We all remember
Coming up on seven thirty here if if you're gout
care see the talk station. I'm a very happy Wednesday
to you. One hour from now. Judge Ennita Paula Tana
back from vacation, preceded by Judge Betsy Sunneman from Domestic
Relations Court, saying curfews don't work. In the meantime, it's
that time a week we get to talk with Americans
for Prosperities. Donovan and Neil Donovan, welcome back to the
(00:24):
program Sir. It's always good hearing from you, Brian. Always
a pleasure to be with you on Wednesday morning. And
I know since Columbus they're on recess. You guys at
AFP aren't doing anything. You kick your feet up and
you don't do Jack squat when they're on vacation, do you.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You know, it's when there's not what it's not policy
season or politics season. We're just we're just chilling on
the beach.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And I guess no rest for the weary at AFP.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They're hit.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
They're trying to rally rally every one of my listening
audience and everybody across the great State of Ohio to
get engaged even by doing just something small because going
back to my analogy for my con law professor, a
fleet urinating in the Pacific, in terms of increasing the volume,
every little bit counts. So baby steps are very important.
(01:12):
Even small ones can go a long way in large volumes.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Absolutely, and so yeah, we're you know, Cap Square and
Capitol Hill may not be in action right now, you
know there's not.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
An impending state or federal election.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But you know what fuels our operation, that makes us
so impactful in those moments is our grassroots army. The
folks like your listeners, Brian, who you know come alongside us,
whether it's sending an email to their state representative to
override Governor Dewines Vetos, to members who knocked doors with
us in support of a candidate to help flip the
(01:49):
balance of power in Washington. It's the small steps each
one of those folks takes, and it's why we've launched
this one Small Step campaign. I've been on talking about
it before, but we're going to beat this drum all
the way through next year year like we always do,
because we've got a really important date coming up. It's
America's twohunter and fiftieth birthday next year, and we're capitalizing
on that to help drive a renewed sense of patriotism
(02:11):
and drive folks back and inspire them to take action,
just like our founding fathers did when they started this
great nation.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, and there are a variety of ways people can
do that you mentioned probably one of the easiest ones.
Just take a few moments of time and contact your
elected officials, your representatives, your senators, even you want to
send the governor an email knock yourself out. But it's
an easy way to do it. And I've had lots
of conversation with you, and a lot of conversations with politicians.
They really don't get that much by way of communications
(02:42):
from their constituents. I mean, you know, if they get
fifteen emails on one subject that's like a banner day
or something, they're like, oh my god, what's going on
out there that I got so much? And you're thinking, like,
wait a second. You represent thousands and thousands of people,
and a big day for you is getting a week
for you? Is getting like fifteen people reaching out on
one issue that I mean that that speaks volumes to
(03:03):
the opportunity for my listening audience to help out.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh, it's so true. I mean we had so we've
had so many members throughout this session. When we put
an action alert out on property text issue, or on
rains regulatory issue, or on moving on hot to a
flat tax. So many members will tell us when we're
when we're talking to them, or we'll bring activists to
the Statehouse and we'll say, actually, you know, I got
emails from AFP and activists like you. It's good to
(03:28):
actually see some of you go in person to know
it's not just Donovan sending me a lot of emails
right right, shakingly, that stuff has a real impact. And
because yeah, you know they can they know right, their
staff read those Their staff either send them onto the
members or summarize it for the members, depending on sort
of how that office operates. Either way, when they get
(03:49):
a lot of emails on a particular piece of legislation
or on a topic, yeah, they that sends up a signal.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Right, it's a radar for them.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And because it's not just them receipt You're you're representative
seeing it, it's reper senatives across the state receiving it.
And so they talk, right, and then they realize, hey,
this is something that people care about. We got to
do something here. It's powerful stuff, Brian, and it's just again,
it's simple, small steps that have different levels of impact
that ultimately result in substantial change. Ideally, if you're working
(04:18):
with us towards freedom and liberty for the better of
the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well and Americans for Prosperity has the tools to help
people accomplish these quote unquote small steps. Because I'm looking
at your site right now, Americans for Prosperity dot org.
There's a click that you can link onto the small
Step campaign and ask you the question, how would you
like to get involved? I'd like to, And then there
here's some options for you to help to put together
community events, build strong community coalition groups, speak out on
(04:43):
social media, hold politicians accountable, contact my representative. We already
address that. Talk to voters at the doors, call voters
about issues and candidates. I'd like to meet with the
team member of AFP if you want to do one
of these, Like I'd love to put together a community events.
I don't have I don't know where to even think
about starting to do that. You guys will help.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, yeah, that's one of the things I always, you know,
I'll talk to the local groups, especially this time of
year where they're working to fight local issues or campaigns,
and I'll say, well, you know, before you even get
before AFP as an organization even puts its label on
it or starts getting involved, how about we just grab
some coffee, some pastries, and let's just talk.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
About what your plan is.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We've got full time staff, right, We're blessed to be
staffed with some of Ohio's best community organizers, political operatives,
conservative leaders who are here to help folks who are
working on the issues that they care about. Right, Folks
like Adam Boying and Southwest Ohio is consistently meeting with
different groups.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
George brunhaman, I know a good friend of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know, we sit down with these groups and a
lot of these a lot of the biggest impact happens
from these local leaders who see a problem in their community.
They want us, they want to tackle them and solve it,
and so they come together to get it done. Our
team stands are ready to help provide that that mentorship,
that support so that you, as a listener of the
Ran Thomas show wright, can go out and be that
(06:02):
leader be that change maker in your community so that
we can again move this state to a more bolder,
better Buckeye state like we talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And if you don't want to be a community leader
and an outspoken advocate for it, there's an easy solution
there for a baby step. Just contact your elected official
and let your voice be known. This property tax thing,
I had a post show interview with Bill sidyesterday, who's
on that committee to analyze, you know, the issues, the
Governor's Committee on Property Tax. So we'll air that one
maybe tomorrow. I'm not quite sure, but I brought up
(06:33):
the issue. You know, we have this repeal property tax
in Ohio ballot initiative that may change the constitution of
the United States, and that won't be on the ballot
until next year, looks like. But you know, I'm not
sure where AFP is on that conceptually. But if they
don't act, and if they don't get something substantive done
by way of property tax relief legislative wise, or however
(06:54):
they accomplish it, that's going to be a real train
wreck if we all vote to get rid of property taxes.
I think it's it's interesting as a concept to discuss
it but I think his figure was, well, we're going
to have to come up with twenty three billion dollars
in lost property tax revenue to fund all the schools
and all these things that benefit from property tax. And
I mentioned the sales tax during the conversation. He said,
(07:15):
we'd have to raise a sales tax to like twenty
cents on the dollar to make up for the lost volume.
So that doesn't seem like an attainable solution, but it's
going to be a real problem if they don't get
something right accomplished and we end up eliminating it, it's
going to be chaotic.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, I think that's right, and that's that's a very
real threat that's sort of damnically hanging over yeah State
of Ohio's head right now. But you know, I think
it's also important to point out the legislature has been
doing a lot of this work. Yeah, there are a
number of legislative vehicles that have been introduced that would
actually both provide immediate relief and structural reform. They'll keep
(07:56):
this problem from reoccurring. Unfortunately, though, you know, I'll point
a finger blame here. It's the local political subdivision lobbyists,
all of the school board officials, teachers, unions, township officials,
village all of these folks. Right, We've got thirty nine
hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio, each one
of those represented by a board of elected officials, paid
(08:18):
elected officials ranging from three to seven members, not to
mention the administrators and all of the bureaucrats that exist
within those thirty nine hundred political subdivisions across.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The state of Ohio.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Those are literally tens of thousands of paid taxpayer, paid
lobbyists who win your state representatives, your state senators go
to do their work. Those lobbyists descend upon Columbus. Yeah,
and put that pressure on it, say we'd want the
status quo. Do not make change, do not harm us,
do not give the taxpayers and voters an edge when
(08:53):
it comes to deciding if.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Their taxes are going to go up or not.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
We liked unvoted tax increases on our citizens because we
need that, Brian, that's the problem. And the legal nature
is acting and has been courageous and doing work. And
when they get a couple of things into the state
budget and the governor vetos them, puts a working group together.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, if we got to get something done. We've set
that back at best three months from reform happening.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And so you can't both say you you know, some
of these folks like Bill Sites can't both say hey,
we've got this threat and pending, we got to act
and then also be cool with the actions the governor
has taken to veto and stop any reform from happening.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So the problem in.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Ohio, in simple terms, is we have too dang much
local government. Local accessible government is good, but we have
thirty nine hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's the fifth most in the nation. And that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And if we want to really fix the system, we
got to kind of address that glaring issue somewhere along
the line.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You can help out. Every little bit counts. Americans for
Prosperity dot org. Start there, click on the link and
you will find yourself on the right page to help
make a difference. AFP is there to help you accomplish
the goal. And as a team, a large team of
a lot of squeaky wheels, maybe we can get some
effective work done here in the state for the benefit
(10:15):
of all of us. Donovan and Neil Americans for prosperity.
Keep up the hard work and you're at it even
when Columbus is on vacation. Hey man, that's right. Always
looking forward to having you on the program. So keep
up the wonderful work. And I again will encourage my
listeners to reach out to you and help out in
any way they can always appreciate. Thanks, Brian, take care
(10:36):
of my brother seven forty. Right now if you have
Kerr CD talk station and joking up at the phone
line five one three seven eight two three talk pound
five fifty on at and T phone stick aroun because
after the top of the our news we're here from
Judge Betsy Sunderman. Curfews don't work, she says, What do
you think she's going to say about taking the red
bikes off the street? Joe Jimney Care Fireplaces though operated
(11:00):
since nineteen eighty eight a plus with the better business,
they know what they're doing and they can service all
relate all things related to fireboxes, whether it's a gas
or woodburning stove, free standing stove, your traditional chimney with
the regular fireplace, would the self feeding wood waste pellet
stoves and for the wood burning units out there, whatever
(11:21):
kind of wood burning thing you got, take advantage of
the special don't let your house burn down get a
woodburning sweep in evaluation for just one hundred and sixty
nine ninety nine, a special that's still going on right now.
When they will come over with a certified chimney sweep,
do a full video camera inspection of your chimney to
make sure there hasn't been any damage, like, for example,
from a prior chimney fire. You may not even know
(11:42):
that that happened. The creosode catches on fire, it can
very well burn your house down. You don't want that happening,
So while you're not using it, get it serviced so
you can comfortably, safely and with confidence enjoy that fire
when the temperatures drop down to fireplace temperatures five one
three two four eight ninety six hundred two four eight
ninety six hundred. Book your appointment online and learn more
(12:03):
about what they do and what they sell on the showroom.
Go to Chimneycareco dot.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
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