AFP - Preventing Government Shutdowns

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Americans for a prosperity.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Donald O'Neil joined the program and sounds like a great
idea in a mee to Donovan O'Neil, doing something about
government shutdowns. It happens all the time. It is a
manufactured crisis. They have twelve appropriations bills. If they did
their damn job, it's part of their job description, you
wouldn't have continuing resolutions. You wouldn't have these ridiculous omnibus

(00:28):
spending measures which can kick the can down the road
and obviously increase or at least maintain the current level
of spending, but always with more money. It's not good
for the American people. It's actually terrible for the American people,
and it's easily avoidable. Donovan and Neil, Is there anything
we can do? There ought to be a law. Is
there a proposal out in the world that's going to
stop this?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
There is a proposal and introduced by budget Shairman Jody
Errington out of Texas and Senator Langford out of Oklahoma
reintroduced something that they've introduced for a little while, a
few Congresses now taken a while to get the idea
to stick, but the Prevent Government Shutdowns Act would do
just that. It would prevent government shutdowns from happening. A

(01:08):
very simple proposal that would require Congress to stay in Washington.
No going back home and campaigning or enjoying Thanksgiving with
your family until you get the dang budget done. The
most simple constitutional requirement Congress has right Brian, is to
fund the federal government. And this would help end that

(01:28):
brinksmanship that we see all too often happen and is
unfortunately right around the corner with September thirtieth looming.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, how's this bill written in a sense that it's
just going to say that if you haven't done the
twelve appropriations bill, then you just can't take a vacation day.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Is as simple as that, or is it more to it?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, so what it would do is it would say
there's no taxpayer funded travel allowances to go back home
to your district, no official funds for these trips overseas,
for codel type travel that they'll do. You can't use
a loophole and bring campaign funds to supplement official duties
or travel expenses. And they have to stay in session.
They can't recess more than twenty three hours at a time,

(02:09):
and so you're essentially constraining them to have to stay
in Washington, DC to finish to finish the process out.
Of course, I don't think you could physically keep a
human being a capital hill, But effectively, this process constrains
them to get the job done and if they don't.
Instead of the government shutting down, what it does is

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put in an automatic continuing resolution to keep funding levels
the way they are while they continue to negotiate and
debate through the appropriations process.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, if you have a conservative majority that actually is
interested in reducing spending in order to get our hands
around the ridiculous overspending we engage in every year, a
continuing resolution automatically going into effect that keeps spending levels
at the current rate might put a smile on Democrats face.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well it could. I think the most important piece of this, though,
is removing this weapon, if you will, from the negotiating table,
that is government shutdowns, and it's continually used right in
sort of a hostage taking approach to governance.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
As I say, where.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know, either side Republicans or Democrats can say let's
we get what we want. You know, we're just going
to let the government shut down, and you see how that,
you know, let the party in power see how that
plays out. Well. At the end of the day, as
we've seen, even with the longest government shutdowns, the government
ends up still paying for all that back pay for
the employees who are furloughed. You put those employees in

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a tight situation where they're not seeing income coming in,
and we end up finding ways to spend more money.
Because once you're in a shutdown, everybody, every vote has
more power and influence than it may be had before.
And so this whole, the whole brinksmanship thing is what
we want to avoid with this type of an approach,
where we can say, look, you don't no good. There's

(04:04):
not gonna be any high stakes drama, no postering and
positioning here. Just get your job done and appropriate the
money to fund the essential services that the federal government
has an obligation to provide.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
All right, let's bring Donovan back talk a little bit
more about this where we can help out. Which is
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Neil for Americans for Prosperity, helping us get engaged to
engage and this sounds like I've been reading the articles
that were posted on Americans for Prosperity dot org, the
Americans for Prosperity website on this Prevent Government Shutdowns Act,

(06:54):
and I mean, I think it sounds like a great idea,
even keeping spending it last year's low force and it kept.
It keeps the government open, so no one's screaming and
running around talking about, oh my god, I can't pay
my rent. These evil Republicans and it's always the Republicans
get blamed for a shutdown, and I don't understand how
that logic and reason works. I'm not dumb enough to
be duped by that argument. But I blame all of

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them for their collective failure to not do their damn
jobs in past twelve appropriation bills. And that's I guess intentional.
So they do bring about these continuing resolutions, these omnibus bills. Donovan,
I mean, that's that that's done intentionally.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, it is. What's crazy is this is this isn't
you know? The budgeting process in Congress is actually a
very long process, and still we find ourselves in crisis mode.
This starts way back in February thereabouts where the President
submits the executives submits their budget proposal to Congress. Congress
reviews that they spend what from February through September, you know,

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seven six seven months there, reviewing, bringing in executive agencies
and other eral departments to review and do these appropriations.
Yet we still find ourselves year after year in September
daring down a potential shutdown or continuing resolution or potential
omnibus bill. It shouldn't be this way, Brian. And one

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of what this legislation does is helps remove that looming
threat of the government shutdown, at least removing that from
the bargaining table, so that Congress just really zeros in
on its core constitutional responsibility and gets the government funded
at an appropriate level to provide the services that the
American people expect from them.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, and this has been done, as I note from
your reporting on this. Auto continuing resolutions like this legislation
proposes exist in the states of North Carolina, Wisconsin, Rhode Island,
and there are other states eighteen of them and have
partial auto continuing resolutions, which apparently has worked in promoting
this more deliberative process, and they've had far better record

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than Congress and passing spending the legislation on time because
of the autocrs.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, yeah, and to the point of the hostage taking position,
I believe it was North Carolina had played with expanding
Medicaid expansion and so I'm not sure how it all
played out there, but you could imagine what happened is
you have some Democrat voters who votes who would say, hey,
unless you expand Medicaid and increase government spending on this program,
we're not going to come to the table and negotiate

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in good faith. It's get a budget bill done. Well,
when you say, well, look that's fine, you don't have
to come to the table because we have this auto
continuing resolution. We're going to continue to fund essential government services.
As you know, the people in North Carolina in this
case in America expect when you're ready to actually just fund
the government and do our jobs. Great, we'll be here
ready to pass that bill. In the meantime, we're going

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to keep funding things at a flat level without any
increase to the taxpayer.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, I know you're always engaged in outreach, with our
outreach with our elected officials at Americans for Prosperity has
the water been tested on this. I mean the idea
of some elected official actually voting to take away something
that might inure to their benefit, for example, travel expenses,
going home and having vacation with the family, whatever it
happens to be. It's like, I really don't trust either

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Republicans or Democrats to back this merely because it might
they might personally find it inconvenient or I don't know,
they might put them on the spot in terms of
having to do their job. How's it looking for this,
because you know, objectively everyone should want this.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's Congress, Brian. How do you think it's looking so well?
You know? These ideas take some time to gain traction, right,
and they often see bills get introduced over and over again.
The bad ones we call zombie bills, these ones, I
don't know what we call them, but these are the
good ideas that we want to see eventually become become law,

(10:52):
you know. And we're going to use this opportunity around
the impending September thirtieth budget deadline to drive the narrative
this and talk about how it doesn't have to be
this way, you know, God forbid, we do get to
a very serious potential of a government shut down in
the next couple of weeks. These kinds of ideas are
going to be really relevant, and the folks like Langford

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and Arrington who are introducing them and talking about them,
I think you're going to be very well received by
the American people. And so we'll keep working on these.
You know, it's hard to get government to reform, but
you keep chipping away. You get new members in Congress,
in the Senate who could be open to these ideas, right,
Senator Eusta Center Moreno, we'll talk to them about that,
Dave Taylor, Right. These are common sense folks who just

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you know, like Moreno and Taylor, who came from the
private sector. They understand they've been on the receding end
of when government isn't working, not on the inside of it.
And so we'll keep chipping away and working on it.
But it takes a grassroots pressure. And that's what we
do at AFP is we apply the crossroots pressure to
make these good ideas sick.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
And how can my listeners help apply the grassroots pressure?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Donovan Well.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
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Speaker 2 (12:14):
Americans for Prosperity always has a place in my listening
audience doing something, Any little thing you do helps so
you don't have to go in you know, both feet,
jump in and and and get to dedicate twenty four
hours a day, seven days a week. A little bit
of effort can go a long way, and AFP will
help you accomplish that, and we can all accomplish the
goal of maybe getting this piece of legislation pass.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And I like the idea.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Donovan and Neil, it's always great having you on and
thank you and Americans for Prosperity for all the work
that you're doing. Buckeye Blueprint dot Com is where you
go to help out and Donovan, I know we'll talk
again next week.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I hope you have a fantastic week.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
My friend, well Ian, always a pleasure to be with you.

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