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May 21, 2025 • 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thirty here I fifty bot KRC Detalk station, A very
heavy Wednesday to you. Always welcome the return of Donald
and Neil from Americans for Prosperity, helping you help us
get good positive things happening in the state of Ohio.
Donald and Neil, welcome back, my friend. Good to hear
from you today, Brian, great to be with you again.
And another great idea to save our salary Campaign AFPs

(00:20):
launched this to support a two point seventy five percent
flat tax. That sounds like a step in the right direction. Donovan,
what's this going to mean if it's.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Past Well, yeah, so you know we've mentioned this on
the show before. Right, Ohio continues to be ranked in
the middle of the pack in the number of policy
areas economic competitiveness. Tax rates are one of those areas
where we're thoroughly mediocre, and we have the opportunity here
right to put through the state budget process. This is
what we're doing right now, to call in the state

(00:48):
Senate to get this done, to move Ohio from a
top marginal rate of three point five percent to a
flat tax of two point seventy five percent. It would
be the lowest in the region. It would put us
an competitive foothold, and most importantly, Brian for the promises
these politicians have been making for decades now would get
us best position to begin that march to a zero

(01:09):
percent income tax, so we can be like Texas, Tennessee
and Florida and reap the benefits of good, sound, fiscal
conservative policies in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
All right, Well, you know there's arguments against this, and
Republicans dominate Columbus across the board, yet they typically don't
do the right thing, at least in terms of traditional
Republican party platform things, which would mean something like this.
So where's the pushback coming from and what are the
reasons that are articulated for the pushback, Like we can't
afford to cut this to two seventy five. I'm sure

(01:40):
somebody's making that argument.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Donovan. Well, that's the nice thing about our opponents on
this issue is their talking points, their tactics haven't changed.
The tactic is, yeah, it's hey, we can't afford this.
We've got all these services we have to provide. It
would be catastrophic to the state. To those folks. What
I point out, especially on the state income tax, you know,
your roads and bridges are already paid for, Brian through

(02:04):
your gas tax. Right, you're lost loop, Well, I'd like.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
To see the numbers on that, Donovan O'Neill. How much
did they actually take in in taxes from the gasoline
tax which was raised by the wine if I recall correctly,
versus how much has actually spent out there on the
roads what they claim the total of projects are cost
Because I know a lot of complaints out in the
world about the situation on our roads out there.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I don't know, but what I do know is they
keep working on this same stretch of highway by my
house over and over and over again every year. So
I don't know where if they just can't get it
read the first time, or what it might be. But
that's a fair question the effectiveness of it. And I
think that's an important reason why you also want a
flat tax. Right. The collection on a flat tax versus
a progressive tax, the compliance not just for the state

(02:52):
but for the taxpayer goes down significantly. Right, if it's
one flat rate two point seventy five percent. You know,
if you made I'm bad at math. I'm notoriously bad
at math, Brian, Right, but you made you know, one
hundred bucks in a year, two dollars and seventy five
cents is going to go to Columbus. You don't need
a CPA to tell you that. You just have to
do some very simple fourth grade maybe now seventh grade

(03:17):
math given our education quality this country. But well, it's
the very simple math to figure that out. And so
the compliance costs for individuals, employees, businesses drops, the state
gets generally sees a higher share. We see this on
the federal level with the Trump tax cuts. When they
simplified the federal tax code, more money came in. Not
because people were happy to pay more taxes, it was

(03:37):
easier to comply, and so that the government the people
got a better share of the money that was needed
to be owed to the government. It's kind of walk crazy,
but it make it works. So that's the idea behind
this is simplify the tax code, make Ohio competitive, and
really put us on a path to excellence.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right, I trust all how it has a version
of the CBO of the the numbers and the impact
on two point seventy five percent versus I. Honestly, Donovan,
I don't even remember what our current tax rate is
in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, we're down to two brackets two point seventy five, well,
zero percent up to the first twenty six thousand dollars
you earn. After that you have a two point seventy
five percent rate up to around ninety seven ninety eight
thousand dollars on the income for an individual or a
married filing jointly, and then above that ninety seven or
so thousand dollars is a three point five percent rate.

(04:32):
And so this is something right too, that our opponents
will make arguments about in saying, well, this is only
going to benefit the wealthiest of the wealthy, right, the rich,
the rich folks, the twelve billionaires maybe we have living
in Ohio, right, But the reality is, you can very easily,
in a simple family of four, right, a father who's
maybe a police officer and a mother who's a teacher,

(04:52):
with a few years of experience, easily get to that
top marginal rate right over ninety seven thousand dollars right
filing jointly. And so this getting to a flattox, the
two point seven percent truly helps allow highlands, especially those
working class middle of Highlands, middle class of Highlands who
are just trying to keep.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Their head above water.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yep, coming out of four years of bidonomics.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, and if it does cost some belt tightening and columbus,
then that's good. That's always a good thing. Donovan and Neil,
Americans for Prosperity Call to action. How can my listeners
help out and advance this in the Senate?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Buckeye Blueprint dot Com slash soo s Buckeye Blueprint dot
Com slash sos, save our salaries.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Thanks for helping people get involved. Americans for Prosperities, Donovan
and Neil, Buckeye Blueprint dot com s slash soos. I'll
look forward to having another conversation. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
This moves forward and makes the state of Behigh more competitive.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Thanks for always having me, Brian, appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I enjoy it, man. I appreciate what you're doing out
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