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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Fifty five care see you talk station that time of
the week we could talk to Americans for Prosperities. Donovan
and Eil Donovan, welcome back to the Morning show. Appreciate
what you're doing over Americans for Prosperity. It's always pleasure
to have you on the program.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Tryan Always good to start my Wednesday morning with you.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
So were you shocked Shared Brown's not going to run
for senate here in Ohio?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey, the only thing better than beating Shared Brown once
is beating him back to back twice.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
So I'm I.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Had it's the Eubris here, right. The voters just rejected
him two years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And yeah, Bernie Mariners a year.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Ago, and he thinks he's got the ideas to come
back and learned his lessons.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, I was, you know, I mean, looking at the
state of Ohio. We we went with Trump by twenty points.
Bernie Moreno previously beat him. Does he have a better
shot against John Houston. One of my listeners called this
morning and said, you know, don't be real cocky about
John Houston being a lock for this, right because Shared
Brown He's obviously got a very very widely understood a

(01:04):
recognized name rather and we've seen him before and uh,
you know, Mike Dwine not exactly popular figure among Republicans.
They many consider him rhino as my caller this morning,
does he's been calling. He's called before and made that point,
as have many listeners over the years, But that he
has kind of joined at the hip with the Wine.
Is that going to be a problem for John Houston?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, I think the important thing here is to not
you know, the hubris. Right, you go back a couple
of years, and you know, Democrats have a lot of hubris,
and we're pretty bullish on Joe Biden, right and saying, look,
Donald Trump has got thirty some you know, court cases
going against him. Americans didn't like him at the time, right,
they voted him out. He's got he's crazy to come back.

(01:50):
But here we are today right with and thank god
it's the case Donald Trump is president biden Omics rejected
and Republicans bringing tax cuts to work in class families.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And so I think it's important, really, you know, to
do two things.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And that's part of what our message is right now
as Americans for Prosperity is reminding vote shared Brown has
a failed record. It's cost Ohio wins tens of thousands
of dollars each year because of the votes on Bidenomics.
And then also going out and talking to folks about
John Houston and as a senator what his record has
been representing us in Washington, which has been to vote
in these middle class tax cuts that were at the

(02:24):
heart of.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
The One Big Beautiful Bill.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, I know the CBO has projected the One Big
Beautiful Bill is going to add four point one trillion
dollars to the US deficit over the next ten years.
And whether or not you believe in that figure, I
just know we've got a real problem on our hands.
I saw we just crossed thirty seven trillion dollars and
we're on this trajectory. We're on Donovan and to add
an additional trillion every five months. You know, I was

(02:53):
in my disappointment of the first Trump administration is that
he increased our deficit around four plus trillion dollars. Like,
wait a minute, whatever happened to fiscal responsibility? I thought
that was kind of a tenant of the Republican Party.
Granted we had COVID and all that, but I'm sorry
we already were spending way too much before COVID shows up.
We seem to have doubled down. We've gone such a
speedy trajectory. They originally projected we wouldn't hit thirty seven

(03:15):
trillion dollars until fiscal year twenty thirty and guess what,
we just crossed it five years ahead a schedule. I mean, Donovan,
I think we've lost our way. Collectively. Neither party seems
to care about what I consider to be the greatest
existential threat to our country, and that is the collapse
of the Fiat currency. We're not going to be a
pair of debt service.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Donovan, Well, I think, yes, we have a debt problem.
There are some indicators though that I think we need
to do a really good job of being out there
messaging going into the midterm election, which Democrats will frame
as a referendum year on Donald Trump. And one of
those things is making these tax cuts permanent.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
We the Republicans in Congress, including s John Houston right
looked at this and said, this isn't Washington's money. These
tax dollars aren't Washington's money. These are the American people's money.
We're going to get we're going to first create good
economic policy that allows them to keep that. And then
what they've done, and this is one of those small
indicators that we need to see more of and we're

(04:16):
gonna keep beating the drum for that is the Recisions Package, which,
by the way, the Trump administration had I think a
fifteen billion dollar decisions package in its first administration. Shared
Brown voted no on that as opposed to that, but
we got one of those done where we defunded PBS
and PR and USAID. And the word is there's a
few more of those packages in coming, and we need

(04:37):
Congress to get those done because that's those are the
signs right that hey, not only is Washington letting Americans
keep their money and taxes low, but we're also going
to stop the spending spree and start turning turning the
tide from where we have been.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, I'm glad to see we have a long way
to go. We got a long way to go. And
you know that's the I mean to make the arg
going about the one big beautiful bill. You have to
address the deficit spending and that's see that's arm or
that's that's ammunition for the Democrats not only are programs
getting cut, but it's we're putting ourselves on a more
unstable trajectory in terms of spending. I mean, we need

(05:14):
to counter that by saying, Okay, we're going to create
a whole bunch of new jobs. More cash is going
to come in because the number of jobs and taxpayers
out there participating in it, because of the jobs that
were created as a consequence of the One Big Beautiful
Bill re shoring all these businesses and industries. Look, Apple's
making all the covers for the world's phones in Kentucky.
Now at the Corning facility. You know they're going to
create an additional four hundred and five hundred jobs there.

(05:35):
We've got a lot of investment in AI that's happening,
a lot of people building companies or building production facilities
in the United States. All that is bearing fruit. But
you know it takes time for all that to bear
the fruit to result in the additional tax dollars. I mean,
the problem is it's not going to happen quick enough
for us to see the benefit. And I want to
see the deficit come down, and to do that, we

(05:58):
need more revenue into government. And let's government spending I
mean what again, I go back to we need to
start running on fiscal responsibility like the old days and
show the world that we can accomplish it. I mean,
Doge did some great out of the gate stuff identifying
all these insane projects. The American taxpayer wasn't going to
stand for that. So indefensible, many of them were. But

(06:19):
I mean the dog needs to be unleashed and go
after all areas of government like our military spending. Donovan,
Geez louise a trillion dollars annually. You tell me there's
not fraud, waste and abuse in that military budget. They
can't even pass the damn audit audit them, you know.
I mean, let's show the American public we're working for them,
that we are going to be accountable for their taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Oh, absolutely well, And I mean that's the message we've
got to get out there and to be talking about
with folks. Is, Look, you go back to the ways
by re electing someone like Sharon Brown who voted for
consistently voted for the increases, right, or do you do
you embrace this new path right where Ohio has two
US senators who together share that vision of Hey, we

(07:05):
need to reign in the spending. I remember sitting down
with Senator Houstead back in February when he was first
February March when he was first in. We're talking about
what our organization does in some of our priorities, and
one of the pushbacks he had was is what do
we do about the spending? Right demonstrated by showing this
is like we're going off a cliff here in this country.
And I think that he's consistently put that message out

(07:27):
there right now.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
We need more senators like that.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
We need to send senators like him back to Washington,
I think, to keep fighting that fight. And then yeah,
we need those supercharge. We need more of these recisions
packages coming to than the fiscal year ins September thirtieth. Right,
we need Congress and Speaker Johnson to get a budget
dead and he's done so far, I think, a pretty

(07:51):
amazing job, focused on delivering all the promises ahead of
time and on ahead of time and schedule, on tax
cuts and sporter security.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, you know, it seems like we need to get
back to a regular order with appropriations bills as well,
and they have made some progress along that. Because we
end up with one of those big, big bills that
cover everything, the omnibus bills, we end up on the
same spending trajectory we're on right now. I'm sorry to
go down this spending road, Donovan. I know that wasn't
really the focus of what you wanted to talk about,

(08:23):
but it's just it's really gotten under my skin since
we crossed that thirty seven trillion dollar mark yesterday. I
just I see that as well our biggest problem.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, I think that's it's at the crux of this, right,
Voters consistently are polling still the economy is a top
tier issue, and it's not just I mean, one part
of that is jobs and money in their pockets and
financial security for them and their families. But what impacts
that is what you're talking about, right, Inflation, the inflationary policies,
the amount of money Washington's printed, you know, dilutes that

(08:56):
value a dollar, if they even if they get a
raise from there, Yes, the employer, right, and that's essential
to the Republican base. I think still is making sure
we have good fiscal sanity and a well run government.
And if Republicans lose their way or start to break
ranks on what they're the trajectory they're on so far
in the first eight months of this Trump administration, that's

(09:18):
going to be I think a disaster for the midterm election.
So we do need them to remain focused on that
fiscal piece because that is going to be a line
of attack that you're pointing out that our friends on
the left will use to regain power and then redo
everything they've already been doing, which has put us in
some part into here. But there's blame to go for
the Republicans as well, for sure.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I'll tell you what pause from men. I'm bringing
back for just a brief moment in the next segment
because I want to address something that I know you'll
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Brian Times with Donald and Neil from Americans for Prosperity.
Now Donovan going back to again, sorry for running off
on a rail by the deficit, but Sherry Brown running
against John Houston. Now one thing that I am so,
and I'm sure you can chime in on it if
you think I'm wrong. But Shared Brown running for Senate
here in the state of how he is going to
bring in huge, huge money. He's gonna have a lot

(12:10):
of money to play with a lot of these outside organizations.
You're gonna get money from all the four corners of
the United States, left wing organizations like Soros's group and
all that. They're going to heavily fund his campaign. And
that's where I think Americans for Prosperity's going to come
in to try to counter some of that effort.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Well, yeah, and you know, you know, at America's Prosperity
Right as a Sea for organization, our focus is educating
folks on elected officials records and then what we'll do,
you know, hopefully, you know, our assister organization that works
on these federal elections, America's Prosperity Action that sent Shared
Brown packing last year by helping elect Bernie Moreno. Our

(12:48):
hope will be I think I think there's a strong
case we made that AFP Action re engage here in
this race. We'll get to that point when we can,
but for now, you know, as Shared Brown starts popping
back up on Ohioan's radar. We're going to be out
there making sure they remember who Shared Brown was a
year ago, not the Shared Brown he wants to be today.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, he's going to try to sell you a bill
of goods now. And he does have a record though
that you can point out. And that's the importance of AFP.
You know, they're going to have the drum beat narrative,
the sound bite narrative, and the well the non weed
dwellers might get caught up in that and believe the
Shared Brown's a great got to vote for. But if
AFP's there reminding the voters and educating them better about

(13:28):
the real Shared Brown and how John Houston is a
better candidate, we might build to counter that big money
narrative that's going to come out. Oh absolutely, And we've
got a track record.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
You know, when Shared bron when that news broke yesterday,
we put a statement out and pulled last five or
so years plus of different times we've sort of held
Shared Brown accountable, right, whether it was voting against the
twenty seventeen tax cuts that put money in more americans
pockets and stimulated the economy to you know, his support

(14:02):
of Bidenomics and his support of these ev gas mandate
v vehicle mandates. The Bide administration is failure to secure
the border despite putting on a tough on crime looking
costume and recording a video that he was able to
blot out saying he's tough on crime. We're we've we've
called we've, we've called him out at every stop, and
we'll continue to do that. You know, as he as

(14:25):
he makes himself UH tries to reintroduce himself to Ohioans.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, good luck Shared Brown on that one. We got
AFP on our corner, and we got John Houston, who
is a monishrably better person to represent the state of
behind in the Senate. Uh, Donovan Neil, always a pleasure
having the program. I salute to AFP for all the
work that they've done over the years in trying to
well educate Ohioans and get us the vote in the
right way for our own best interest. I'll look forward

(14:49):
to having you back on next week with another update.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Always great to share the megaphone with you, Brian, Thanks
for having me.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Thanks Donovan, thanks again for your good work. Seven forty six.

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