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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Friday eve in the house. Man, I'm telling you
this guy gets me Rile that he gets me shouting
at the computer and doing high fives when no one's
in the room and I'm watching what he has to say.
Andre ewing curse breakers three hundred. He can explain to
you about that again. But welcome back, Andrea. You are
an outspoken i'll say, critic, but not always critic. You
(00:22):
praise stuff that's good and you attack things politically that
are bad. Retired police officer, you had thirty years of
police a service under your belt, right, Yes, sir, you've
seen it all. Yes, you remember the days before issue five,
and you obviously there were problems. You can even mention
that if you choose to, it wasn't a perfect system.
Back then, I know a lot of police officers weren't
thrilled with Chief Tom Striker being police chief. And you know,
(00:45):
but now we have it completely politicized. And of course
the conversation brought up because a lot of rumors swirling
around the police Chiefdiji's job was on the line. She
got hauled back from her police convention conference and sort
of why did she go in the middle of all
this chaos is question. But at least she wasn't well
watching when it all hit the fan. So, but it's
(01:07):
become politicized. May I have to have purvall the city
manager have total control over who gets hired and who
gets fired. And a lot of suggestions I know you
were listening to Dan Hills this morning, that that creates
this sort of capitulation someone who could be a strong leader,
someone who might have great ideas about policing and might
run a foul of what pervol and the manager and
the city manager want, which means their jobs on the
(01:29):
line if they disagree. That is not a good view
from my standpoint. And here we find ourselves today a
lot of crime in downtown. Have to have Pervoll, with
his election on the line, doing a lot of things,
or at least paying lip service to it. But now
we've got this wrinkle in the thing about maybe Chief
Fiji's going to lose her job. Is any of this
her fault? Andre Ewing, welcome back, man.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Hey, I appreciate it, brother Brian. It's always a pleasure.
I want to give a shout out to my wife,
Danielle Ewing, who's a police officers will and also a
breast cancer survivor, so and Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Just
want to talk to all my survivors and your thrivers
so we love you and keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then thank you very much for bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely, let's get down to the truth, brother Brian, because
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Water it down.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I've always said that Fiji has no business being the chief.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now, Dan Hills was on the show talking about she
did better than what I thought? What is better than? Okay,
we clearly said that Lisa Davis was the better choice.
And what rings in my mind is December tenth, twenty
twenty two. That rings in my mind. Why because Cheryl
Long and Scottie Johnson walked into District two and started
(02:42):
to ask us questions, what chief do we want? And
it's interesting because I've been on your show before and
overwhelmingly we told the city manager, do not place Terretha
Thiji out of chief position. And it was allmost like
we were begging her overwhelmingly, one hundred percent in the room,
(03:03):
and they did an assessment and overwhelmingly you heard even
Dan Hill say, yeah, we weren't for Thiji. It was
overwhelmingly and you still chose somebody that everybody said do
not do. So I'm not gonna just say Thiji should
go once again having a convention out of town during
(03:24):
all this telling chiefs what what not to do and
how to talk to criminals to just behave This is
absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know, it's revealing of a pattern because as you
were talking about that, who is most I mean, the
city residents obviously impacted by who's running the police department,
but that's one thing. But she is there to keep
the police department organized, to hire and fire the right people,
to give promotions to hopefully the merit based right people,
(03:54):
et cetera, et cetera. So you're most impacted as a
police officer overwhelming support for someone other than Thig. That
sounds remarkably like the city council in this mayor's treatment
of the residents of Hyde Park who were overwhelmingly against
that damn development project so much so that they got
it on the ballot to have it repealed. That's what
forced the city to capitulate in this particular case. Doesn't
(04:15):
sound like the city is capitulating anything. They're like, okay,
you want that police chief. Sorry, screw you. Guys, we're
going with DG anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Correct, which is ridiculous. That's why Sheryl Long cannot get
off the hook. And what makes her a specialist in
picking and choosing the right police chief? What skills does
she have to disregard an entire police force? And how
do you just get that power from individuals who have
no experience in policing? And we see the results of
(04:43):
that decision. And so it's interesting because Fiji is collateral
damage being placed in a position that it was really Hey, Chief,
we're begging you don't take it because you're not ready.
You're being set up by a highly political process. And
this is the results of leadership. That's why I said
(05:04):
AFTAB needs to go. Sheryl Long needs to go as
well as Chief and Iris Rowley. Because we keep hearing
about this collaborative agreement. Will somebody, a professional attorney sit
down and really break down this entire process because you
hear it so much. It's it's a document that we
(05:25):
need to know what exactly is in those documents that
appears to be that Iris has so much power in
this situation.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And we will bring that topic back up. We're bumping
up against the break here under a ewing Brother Dre.
You can find him online. He's going to revamp his
Facebook page with currently it's under a ewing I follow him.
You gotta watch his weekly videos. They are you'll find
yourself high fiving no one in the room while he's
talking about it. Forty five fifty five dug Zasion quickly
(05:56):
mentioned for in exchange because you want to say Everardy
should be a Karos the talk station seven nine here
fifty five KRC the talk station. Andre. You check him
out on Facebook. I recommend you checking out what he
has to say each and every week. Outspoken observer, critic,
(06:18):
sometimes sometimes supporter, but things going on in the city
of Cincinnati, bringing his thirty years of law enforcement experience
and observations and never pulling any punches on it. So
check him out. You said you're going to rename your
page at some point, Andre.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, sir, that's going to be under a Curse Breakers
three hundred right now, caurse Breakers three hundred dash Brother
Dre is going to be revamped. But it definitely Brother
Dre and Curse Breakers three hundred, So definitely let.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, all right, and you'd be doing the same
thing even under the different all right, yes, because I
would hate if that weren't away. Absolutely Back to Iris
Roul you're talking about you've never personally seen the collaborative agreement?
Are you suggesting? Is it's kind of like a hidden document.
It's not like I can't search for the Sensei Collaborative
Agreement and come up with a full page PDF for
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And it's interesting because nobody seems to know the heart
of the collaborative agreement. The mayor has thrown it around
a lot in the debate. He threw it up, and
so what needs to happen to the citizens of Cincinnati
since it's being brought up and Iris Rolli's name is
being brought up presented to the city, read verbatim the
(07:26):
structure and the importance of it. Now, we do understand
that from the Tim Thomas murder, from the police officer
and the issues that occurred there, that the collaborative agreement
was started and the profiling that officers were doing, so
it was needed, But now here we are it was refreshed.
(07:47):
What exactly is in there? Because I'm tired of hearing
about it and tired of hearing that she's at the
table dictating what rules are in or not. So will
somebody show us verb betim and that should come from
the chief or city manager or mayor, since you're referring
to it but showing us no facts of her position
(08:07):
dealing with this all right?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And I had read Signal ninety nine s post and
there was a reference in there that Iris Roly did
do a presentation to law enforcement officials and other services
that the governor offered. So before you come here to
work for two days a week, maybe now four days
a week, you got to listen to a sermon by
Iris Roley. I'm boiling down what she said. But presumably
(08:31):
I can imagine, since she was there for the creation
of and was an integral part of establishing the Collaborative Agreement,
that she doesn't know what's in it. But is it
everybody's understanding that she was telling the officers and officials
what's in there and what they have to do by
way of how to conduct their policing activities in the city.
Or was she providing her own version of it, because
(08:52):
that's where the wording in the collaborative Agreement is so
damn important. Question number two, And I think you know
the answer to this or can guess it. Is there
anything in the collaborate agreement that allows for the designation
of a pope or an i mom or a grand
poobah of the collaborative agreement? How did she land in
that role as a highly paid consultant going around telling
(09:13):
people how to do things?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And you know what those are the mystery questions that
need to be answered to find out exactly what is
her position? As you see, it never was told to
us even after everything occurred. And seeing this is where
a chief Thiji is a problem as well, because you
haven't spoken out even when she was out harassing officers,
(09:36):
So what exactly is happening? No one actually came forward
to present and say this is a problem. So until
we actually know under what power she has, this is
constantly going to be confused. She can address it to
the osp and say we want you to follow this
collaborative agreement and resources say that there was a memorandum
(09:56):
that they had to sign and follow, But what are
you following? And that is the question that the citizens
and taxpayers need to know.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's an excellent observation, all right. Pivoting over to something
the mayor seems to want to embrace, and I know
Cranleigh was wanted to embrace the idea of hiring more
police officers. Were down a couple of hundred more taking
early drop. I mean they're not even sticking out the
entire drop program. They're just washing their hands up and
saying I'm out. Senior officers were losing experience and we
(10:28):
don't have enough younger officers fill in the rank. So
this concept of lateral hires has come up. Sounds brilliant,
you know, Dangla carative incentive over here in the city
of Cincinnati for someone to quit their suburban police officer
job and work in the city, that sounds like a
tough road to ho there, andre Ewing, what in your
perception should the city do to get people to want
(10:48):
to come and work in the Cincinnai Police Department. I mean,
is there a simple solution to that? Because everybody's climbing
for officers out there in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Correct, and leadership is the key. Once again, no one
wants to be a police officer. This is a serious issue,
and this is why you release the full package with
the OSP And this is interesting because this could be
a test temperature to say We're gonna test how the OSP.
We release the full package. We allow them to do
(11:17):
their traffic stops, their investigations, help with cis all the
things the police need. That means what more officers. So
if you already have the funding to give us the OSP,
why would you keep complaining about we need to hire
more officers. Here's the test, baby, right here. Release all
(11:39):
these officers at your disposal. This leadership is ridiculous. I
just gave you the blueprint. Release it and see how
this goes. And you will see when we get more officers.
Here is already the blueprint that's been set. Release the
full package.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Get the full package, get the officer back up to
where they should be, and let's see if it works
at least right Absolutely, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Absolutely, try it out.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know what, maybe in six months from now, if
they did all that, just flooded the streets with every
day twenty four hours, seven days a week, the additional resources,
and six months from now, if crime is gone up
or things haven't changed, you can say, you know what,
it isn't the amount of officers. It's gotta be something else.
Thank you very much, Andrewing you are the vehicle for
such logic and common sense to make it out to
the residents and the folks who listen to this conversation
(12:29):
on the fifty five Casey Morning Show. My friend, you
always have a welcome spot here. I enjoy what you
do every week, and again, I'll encourage my listeners to
check out what you've got to say and enjoy your
reaction to Andre Ewing's words.
Happy Friday eve in the house. Man, I'm telling you
this guy gets me Rile that he gets me shouting
at the computer and doing high fives when no one's
in the room and I'm watching what he has to say.
Andre ewing curse breakers three hundred. He can explain to
you about that again. But welcome back, Andrea. You are
an outspoken i'll say, critic, but not always critic. You
(00:22):
praise stuff that's good and you attack things politically that
are bad. Retired police officer, you had thirty years of
police a service under your belt, right, Yes, sir, you've
seen it all. Yes, you remember the days before issue five,
and you obviously there were problems. You can even mention
that if you choose to, it wasn't a perfect system.
Back then, I know a lot of police officers weren't
thrilled with Chief Tom Striker being police chief. And you know,
(00:45):
but now we have it completely politicized. And of course
the conversation brought up because a lot of rumors swirling
around the police Chiefdiji's job was on the line. She
got hauled back from her police convention conference and sort
of why did she go in the middle of all
this chaos is question. But at least she wasn't well
watching when it all hit the fan. So, but it's
(01:07):
become politicized. May I have to have purvall the city
manager have total control over who gets hired and who
gets fired. And a lot of suggestions I know you
were listening to Dan Hills this morning, that that creates
this sort of capitulation someone who could be a strong leader,
someone who might have great ideas about policing and might
run a foul of what pervol and the manager and
the city manager want, which means their jobs on the
(01:29):
line if they disagree. That is not a good view
from my standpoint. And here we find ourselves today a
lot of crime in downtown. Have to have Pervoll, with
his election on the line, doing a lot of things,
or at least paying lip service to it. But now
we've got this wrinkle in the thing about maybe Chief
Fiji's going to lose her job. Is any of this
her fault? Andre Ewing, welcome back, man.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Hey, I appreciate it, brother Brian. It's always a pleasure.
I want to give a shout out to my wife,
Danielle Ewing, who's a police officers will and also a
breast cancer survivor, so and Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Just
want to talk to all my survivors and your thrivers
so we love you and keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then thank you very much for bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely, let's get down to the truth, brother Brian, because
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Water it down.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I've always said that Fiji has no business being the chief.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now, Dan Hills was on the show talking about she
did better than what I thought? What is better than? Okay,
we clearly said that Lisa Davis was the better choice.
And what rings in my mind is December tenth, twenty
twenty two. That rings in my mind. Why because Cheryl
Long and Scottie Johnson walked into District two and started
(02:42):
to ask us questions, what chief do we want? And
it's interesting because I've been on your show before and
overwhelmingly we told the city manager, do not place Terretha
Thiji out of chief position. And it was allmost like
we were begging her overwhelmingly, one hundred percent in the room,
(03:03):
and they did an assessment and overwhelmingly you heard even
Dan Hill say, yeah, we weren't for Thiji. It was
overwhelmingly and you still chose somebody that everybody said do
not do. So I'm not gonna just say Thiji should
go once again having a convention out of town during
(03:24):
all this telling chiefs what what not to do and
how to talk to criminals to just behave This is
absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know, it's revealing of a pattern because as you
were talking about that, who is most I mean, the
city residents obviously impacted by who's running the police department,
but that's one thing. But she is there to keep
the police department organized, to hire and fire the right people,
to give promotions to hopefully the merit based right people,
(03:54):
et cetera, et cetera. So you're most impacted as a
police officer overwhelming support for someone other than Thig. That
sounds remarkably like the city council in this mayor's treatment
of the residents of Hyde Park who were overwhelmingly against
that damn development project so much so that they got
it on the ballot to have it repealed. That's what
forced the city to capitulate in this particular case. Doesn't
(04:15):
sound like the city is capitulating anything. They're like, okay,
you want that police chief. Sorry, screw you. Guys, we're
going with DG anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Correct, which is ridiculous. That's why Sheryl Long cannot get
off the hook. And what makes her a specialist in
picking and choosing the right police chief? What skills does
she have to disregard an entire police force? And how
do you just get that power from individuals who have
no experience in policing? And we see the results of
(04:43):
that decision. And so it's interesting because Fiji is collateral
damage being placed in a position that it was really Hey, Chief,
we're begging you don't take it because you're not ready.
You're being set up by a highly political process. And
this is the results of leadership. That's why I said
(05:04):
AFTAB needs to go. Sheryl Long needs to go as
well as Chief and Iris Rowley. Because we keep hearing
about this collaborative agreement. Will somebody, a professional attorney sit
down and really break down this entire process because you
hear it so much. It's it's a document that we
(05:25):
need to know what exactly is in those documents that
appears to be that Iris has so much power in
this situation.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And we will bring that topic back up. We're bumping
up against the break here under a ewing Brother Dre.
You can find him online. He's going to revamp his
Facebook page with currently it's under a ewing I follow him.
You gotta watch his weekly videos. They are you'll find
yourself high fiving no one in the room while he's
talking about it. Forty five fifty five dug Zasion quickly
(05:56):
mentioned for in exchange because you want to say Everardy
should be a Karos the talk station seven nine here
fifty five KRC the talk station. Andre. You check him
out on Facebook. I recommend you checking out what he
has to say each and every week. Outspoken observer, critic,
(06:18):
sometimes sometimes supporter, but things going on in the city
of Cincinnati, bringing his thirty years of law enforcement experience
and observations and never pulling any punches on it. So
check him out. You said you're going to rename your
page at some point, Andre.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, sir, that's going to be under a Curse Breakers
three hundred right now, caurse Breakers three hundred dash Brother
Dre is going to be revamped. But it definitely Brother
Dre and Curse Breakers three hundred, So definitely let.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, all right, and you'd be doing the same
thing even under the different all right, yes, because I
would hate if that weren't away. Absolutely Back to Iris
Roul you're talking about you've never personally seen the collaborative agreement?
Are you suggesting? Is it's kind of like a hidden document.
It's not like I can't search for the Sensei Collaborative
Agreement and come up with a full page PDF for
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And it's interesting because nobody seems to know the heart
of the collaborative agreement. The mayor has thrown it around
a lot in the debate. He threw it up, and
so what needs to happen to the citizens of Cincinnati
since it's being brought up and Iris Rolli's name is
being brought up presented to the city, read verbatim the
(07:26):
structure and the importance of it. Now, we do understand
that from the Tim Thomas murder, from the police officer
and the issues that occurred there, that the collaborative agreement
was started and the profiling that officers were doing, so
it was needed, But now here we are it was refreshed.
(07:47):
What exactly is in there? Because I'm tired of hearing
about it and tired of hearing that she's at the
table dictating what rules are in or not. So will
somebody show us verb betim and that should come from
the chief or city manager or mayor, since you're referring
to it but showing us no facts of her position
(08:07):
dealing with this all right?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And I had read Signal ninety nine s post and
there was a reference in there that Iris Roly did
do a presentation to law enforcement officials and other services
that the governor offered. So before you come here to
work for two days a week, maybe now four days
a week, you got to listen to a sermon by
Iris Roley. I'm boiling down what she said. But presumably
(08:31):
I can imagine, since she was there for the creation
of and was an integral part of establishing the Collaborative Agreement,
that she doesn't know what's in it. But is it
everybody's understanding that she was telling the officers and officials
what's in there and what they have to do by
way of how to conduct their policing activities in the city.
Or was she providing her own version of it, because
(08:52):
that's where the wording in the collaborative Agreement is so
damn important. Question number two, And I think you know
the answer to this or can guess it. Is there
anything in the collaborate agreement that allows for the designation
of a pope or an i mom or a grand
poobah of the collaborative agreement? How did she land in
that role as a highly paid consultant going around telling
(09:13):
people how to do things?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And you know what those are the mystery questions that
need to be answered to find out exactly what is
her position? As you see, it never was told to
us even after everything occurred. And seeing this is where
a chief Thiji is a problem as well, because you
haven't spoken out even when she was out harassing officers,
(09:36):
So what exactly is happening? No one actually came forward
to present and say this is a problem. So until
we actually know under what power she has, this is
constantly going to be confused. She can address it to
the osp and say we want you to follow this
collaborative agreement and resources say that there was a memorandum
(09:56):
that they had to sign and follow, But what are
you following? And that is the question that the citizens
and taxpayers need to know.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's an excellent observation, all right. Pivoting over to something
the mayor seems to want to embrace, and I know
Cranleigh was wanted to embrace the idea of hiring more
police officers. Were down a couple of hundred more taking
early drop. I mean they're not even sticking out the
entire drop program. They're just washing their hands up and
saying I'm out. Senior officers were losing experience and we
(10:28):
don't have enough younger officers fill in the rank. So
this concept of lateral hires has come up. Sounds brilliant,
you know, Dangla carative incentive over here in the city
of Cincinnati for someone to quit their suburban police officer
job and work in the city, that sounds like a
tough road to ho there, andre Ewing, what in your
perception should the city do to get people to want
(10:48):
to come and work in the Cincinnai Police Department. I mean,
is there a simple solution to that? Because everybody's climbing
for officers out there in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Correct, and leadership is the key. Once again, no one
wants to be a police officer. This is a serious issue,
and this is why you release the full package with
the OSP And this is interesting because this could be
a test temperature to say We're gonna test how the OSP.
We release the full package. We allow them to do
(11:17):
their traffic stops, their investigations, help with cis all the
things the police need. That means what more officers. So
if you already have the funding to give us the OSP,
why would you keep complaining about we need to hire
more officers. Here's the test, baby, right here. Release all
(11:39):
these officers at your disposal. This leadership is ridiculous. I
just gave you the blueprint. Release it and see how
this goes. And you will see when we get more officers.
Here is already the blueprint that's been set. Release the
full package.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Get the full package, get the officer back up to
where they should be, and let's see if it works
at least right Absolutely, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Absolutely, try it out.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know what, maybe in six months from now, if
they did all that, just flooded the streets with every
day twenty four hours, seven days a week, the additional resources,
and six months from now, if crime is gone up
or things haven't changed, you can say, you know what,
it isn't the amount of officers. It's gotta be something else.
Thank you very much, Andrewing you are the vehicle for
such logic and common sense to make it out to
the residents and the folks who listen to this conversation
(12:29):
on the fifty five Casey Morning Show. My friend, you
always have a welcome spot here. I enjoy what you
do every week, and again, I'll encourage my listeners to
check out what you've got to say and enjoy your
reaction to Andre Ewing's words.
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