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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifty five kerc DE talk station Have eight Friday. A
man I thoroughly enjoy his post on Facebook. Outspoken he is.
He doesn't speak for anybody but himself, but excellent observations
he makes and speaking truth to power quite often. Retired
since a police officer after a storied, I believe, thirty
year career, he is involved with a group called Curse
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Breakers three hundred strong. It's a prison ministry advocate. He
is a man of faith and a man who's outspoken.
Welcome back, Brother Dre aka Andre Ewan. Good to have
you on the morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sir, Good morning, my man, Brian Man. I wanted to
see in person this morning, but ran into a couple
of win troubles from last night. But it's all good.
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's all good when we're talking to you, brother, and
I really would like to be seen across of the
board here, but that's okay. We'll do that again next year.
I know I'm hoping to have you on during Counteryere
twenty twenty six. I'm doing great. You're getting geared up
for the holidays, going to celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Andre, Yes, sir, just all about peace and happiness. That's it.
That's what we're practicing, just making sure we have peace
that are surpassed all understand.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
These amen to that. That's one of my favorite phrases,
Peace of God. It passes all human understanding. It's like
a lot of things in politics. Maybe it's like the
one point eight million dollar settlement to the protesters during
the twenty twenty floored protest. Let's start with that one,
Andre I understand from a lawyer's perspective, I understand the
argument that was made by the protesters. Listen, we have
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a First Amendment right to well, to protest, to speak politically,
to gather together in groups. And the riot situation was
there was a mixed bag of people who were just protesting,
but also people who were breaking the law, and things
got apparently out of control. I know, the mayor put
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a curfew in place, and so all these people who
were gathered together and put over in the Hamilton County
lockup in that area. I can't remember what they called that,
but it was sort of an outdoor area and held
there for a while, file this lawsuit claiming that their
civil rights got violated. So, yeah, we do have the
First Amendment, but there were a lot of crime in there.
Apparently the police arrested them for the curfew violation, not
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for specific crimes like blocking the street or throwing off
frozen water bottle or something like that that would result
in a separate criminal or could result in a separate
criminal charge, but because they were curfew violations, they claimed
it was a civil rights violation. So ultimately the city
wrote them a check for one point or eight point
one million dollars, which translates about twelve to thirteen thousand
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dollars per protester. As a former police officer and someone
who understands the situation, Andre Ewing, what's your take on
all this and what's your reaction to the settlement.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, of course you had over four hundred and seventy
nine plaintiffs and here you have a payout, and people
do understand this. What I call this game is to
get into certain groups, get into a protesting type situation,
and to bait the police so they can actually sue.
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And this is interesting because this happens in a lot
of different places around the country. I mean, but to
really look deeper into an eight point one million dollar settlement,
I mean, the way the arrests were, they were a
lot of individuals that was told was being reckless. So
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it's interesting that it was strictly just being a curfew violation.
And that's where city leaders should have came together and
been more specific that am I just going to arrest
you and place you in the Hamilton count of Justice
Center on a specific pod because you violated a curfew?
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And so is it you violated a curfew or you
were being reckless during this twenty twenty George Floyd racial
justice protest. So the clarity is extremely week and it
would be interesting to see what was the actual plan,
to be honest with you, buy the police during this
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encounter to just arrest individuals that were violating the curfew.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah. I talk with former FOP president Dan Hills about this,
and he was very upset about this the settlement. But
I pointed to him and I's like, listen, from a
you know, lawyer perspective, From a constitutionalist perspective, you do
have the right to free assembly and that trumps the
curfew argument I would make because you know, adults are
allowed to go out at any given time and assemble,
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but peaceable assembly is different than breaking an individual law,
like for example, in the middle of the street. You're
blocking traffic. You can be cited for just that. It
doesn't matter what the time of day is, doesn't matter
if you're involved in protest or free speech. You're out
in the middle of the damn road. You can't be there.
Here's a ticket for that. If everyone who was arrested
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got an individual ticket under that type of scenario, then
I don't think you'd see this lawsuit. They wouldn't have
the civil rights argument that they made. But the problem was,
as it was explained to me, is that there were
so many people there it's virtually impossible for law enforcement
to figure out who's standing on the sidewalk versus who's
in the middle of the street, who's peaceably assembling, and
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who's not. And so you just gather them all up
and tell them they all violated the curfew. It was
the impetus behind the lawsuit. So what's your having been
a police officer for so many years, I mean, that's it.
I suppose that's a genuine problem parsing through the lawbreakers
and the ones that aren't.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And you know what, Brian, this is why I say
that I would love to see the body cam footage
from from point A to point B where they were arrested.
Let me see the details of what was actually presented
that was there, or did you have officers just being
reckless and going in and arresting just anybody. And that's
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where I'm sure that there were specific individuals that they
probably just gathered up that let's just say, were in
the crowd and we're trying to assemble peacefully. And we
know that is what generated the actual complaints. And once
you start getting one and two and three good complaints,
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you're going to get one hundred more following.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
No question about it. So had there been better management,
in other words, had the mayor gotten more actively involved
or sharel Long gotten more actively involved as city manager
or council getting more actively involved in directions to the
police department. I guess I'm just wondering where the breakdown
comes in, you know, explaining to them, though you just
can't randomly pick up people for peaceably assembling, you got
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to have a specific crime. Is that the kind of
directive as a police officer, when you were a police officer,
as you currently understand things, is that the kind of
thing you would expect council, the manager and or the
mayor to do in advance of the obviously knowing that
these protests are going on, hell had been going on
for several days, So what do you expect them to do?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well? See, this is what happens, Brian, when the left
hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and
the lack of communication. And I'm gonna be honest with you,
no matter what situation I was in, I remember the riots,
even with Tim Thomas and that particular situation, and at
the time, I'm gonna be the supervisors were ridiculous. And
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this is where you really have to sit back and
ask what are we doing at this particular time, how
are we doing it? And make sure te's a cross
and eyes or dotted. So somewhere in this particular situation,
somebody clearly dropped the ball and they just grabbed a
group of individuals and said, hey, we're gonna get these
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officers down here. If they across the street the wrong way,
arrest them. And this is where the breakdown is in communication.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And fair enough, Now your takeaway, did they collectively learn
anything from this on a going forward basis? New practices
or protocols put into place so we don't have to
continue to write checks.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Andre, you know what, I guess the answer will be.
We will soon see because we both know that there's
going to be another type of protest, another type of
writing situation, and this is where leadership matters and making
sure that the right people are in place that these
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things don't continue to happen again.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, well, I'll tell you what. We almost out
of time in this segment. I'm gonna break a little
bit early and let you know in advance on this
particular topic. Law enforcement generally and writing checks want to
hit you for what's the status on the Chief Washington situation?
Do we learn anything from that Chief Diji? Do we
ever get a reason for why they put her on
administrative leave? That one seems to be swirling with question marks?
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And doesn't it not look like we're going to be
writing a couple of very long ar checks in connection
with their cases against the city. Let's continue with Brother
Dre Andre, you and curse breakers three hundred strong. It's
eight fourteen right now. We'll be right back after these
brief words. Fifty five KRC. You want to give the
gift that'll actually use this holiday pure c the talk
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station eight eighteen fifty fock KRCD Talk Station, Happy Friday,
Brother Dre. You can call him Andre Ewing if you like.
That's his Facebook page, Andre A N. Dre e Ewing
e Wing. I follow him all the time. He does
great rants. He's on the program for this hour talking
about matters going on the city of Cincinnati, before we
get into the questions I have about former fire Chief
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Washington and the currently on administrative leave dismissed police chief
three Sothigi. I see that you are going to have
a brand new web page after the year. Is that
the one you want people to go to after the
first of the year, or are you going to stick
with Andrea Ewing. I'm just letting my friends know so
they can check out what you got to say.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Andre, Yes, sir, after the first of the year, go
go back to Curse Breakers three hundred dash, Brother Dre,
and all the content will be pushed over to that
particular page.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Fair enough, And you want to remind my listeners what
you do with Cursebreakers three hundred. I know it's prison ministry,
but just put a little more information on the bones
of that general description, because I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You're doing Yeah, Curse Breaker is three hundred just designed
to assist and help individuals to come over what I
call supernatural strongholds of things in their life. And so
it burst in the prison system to just give people
hope before they get released and to have them in
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a stronger mental, physical, and spiritual position. So it just
expands outside of prison because everyone in life is going
through some strongholds they need to break.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Isn't that true? And if you had to boil it
down to the single most or the predominant reason any
of the men that work with in prison and try
to turn their lives around why they got there or
how they got there, what would you point to Andre
if I can even put you on the spot along
those lines, Because you know a lot of reasons people
get into crime, but I think maybe the deterioration of
the family. I know drugs are quite often involved, but
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what drives a person to crime in them for the
most part that you've seen.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Is exactly what you said. That stronghold is extremely deep,
that upbringing death surrounding they I talk to kids even
at are ten years old, and we've always asked how
did you start getting hooked on drug? And they say,
oh wow, I learned it from my dad or my
mom or an adult. And so family is a key
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component on individuals that are incarcerated and.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A key component to success as well. Strong family is
more likely to lead to success regardless of income, I
would argue, correct, Andre.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Correct, correct, surprised. I've seen strong families break through the
utmost just strong holds just because they have that family support.
So it can work both ways.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, and sometimes in the absence of family, that's where
faith can be a great substitute. There is still some
hope and some reason to be a strong, positive, crime
free individual. All right, brother Dre, let's pivot over here.
We had the whole problem in the lawsuit that ensued
as a result of Chief Washington, the fire chief getting dismissed.
Looks like they're going to be writing a pretty big check.
I think all errors indicate that the city of Cincinnati's
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on the hook. Now we've got police chief threes a
Thigi and after the summer violence, she was put on
I guess, paid administrative leave and was left with a
substitute chief. Have you heard a specific reason why they
took that action against police Chiefdji? Because I haven't heard
a reason. It's almost as if they said, all right,
you're off the job, and then they're going to go
investigate on why they removed her from the position. Is
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it like a ready fire aim or am I missing
some of the facts.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, you're not missing the facts. And this is the
ridiculousness of the city manager and the leadership. It just
appears that they have blank checks to write for everyone.
And even though I've been outspoken on the leadership of
Chief Thiji and the way things went, the way that
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the mayor and the city manager have conducted this process
has just been sloppy across the board. Mike Washington, the
fire former fire chief should have never been fired in
the first place. I mean there's no reason, no evidence whatsoever.
So to have somebody abuse their authority and consistently abuse
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their authority, it's interesting how the city is okay with
all these checks that are being written out that they're
going to have to pay. And at some point it's
people are going to have to prove a point saying
we support this type of nonsense by being silence, or
are we just gonna not support the city and move out.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, and I'm sure a lot of people making choices
along both of those lines. But you know, the big
component and all of this for me is usually and
is in this particular case. Why so you can say
they're abusing their authority. Yes they are, at least it
seems to be so. But they even if they came
out loud and said we have removed Chief Fiji for
this or these reasons, at least you could put look
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to the reasons they cited and say, well, that is
beyond your authority. There's no reason to dismiss her for that.
Or we could collectively say, you know what, that's a
pretty good reason. It sounds like you got something to
hang your hat on when she ultimately sues you for
wrongful termination or reputation violation or something like that. Instead
we get nothing, and you're.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Not gonna get nothing. And that's why at the beginning,
let's say you you make these decisions. At the beginning,
when the majority of police officers said, hey, look we
don't think Chief the is the actual best choice, you
decide to choose her anyway, And there are sources that
say that Cheryl Long clearly clearly stated that this is
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my pick and I cannot get this wrong. Okay, so
you fires or put somebody on administrative lead that you selected,
so you are part of the problem. And so I've
always been very very clear I'm not letting any of
them off the hook. But it still starts with Sheryl
Long And where is her experience to start to just
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fire individuals who may or may not deserve it and
does not do the proper investigation. And here we are
again with this foolishness, this nonsense, talking about this going
into the new year, making more and more payouts on
ridiculous information and how people leave this city. And plus
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it was a political move during the time, very strategic
to get rid of Fiji, so a have to have
to kind of separate hisself from that process.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
That sounds like a political motivation. It sounds like a
pretty strong argument you're making there, Andrea Ewing, I'm just wondering.
And we'll talk about this in the next segment when
we continue with Brother Dre. Did Iris Rowley have anything
to do with that? And what's with this six hundred
and fifty some one thousand dollars ever increasing sweetheart deals
she has with the city of Cincinnati And how much
controlled and power does she have it's unusual thing we've
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got going on here in the city. Will continue with
brother Dre. Take twenty five right now. If you five
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If you fi kr CD talk station. A very happy
right aga. Much like Todd Zenzer, citizen watchdog, former inspector General.
He was on the program earlier this week talking about
some of the shenanigans going on with city council, the
mayor's office, et cetera. Andrea Ewing brother Dre would like
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to call him. He calls himself that Andrea Ewing on Facebook.
He rants regularly about some very important topics in the city.
Former law enforcement officer, thirty years on the force. Mike
write on that was thirty full years, Andre.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It was about just short of thirty. So let's just
say twenty nine and once you get over to half
is thirty years.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
There you are. I'll round up for you. Well, what
it's easy to do with you man, all right, pivoting over.
We talked a little bit about the whole chief situation
and the problems with that. Something tells me, because she's
been around for a long time, she has a very
very big contract with the city of Cincinnati, and she
is a profound critic of law enforcement, you know, or
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I guess, Iris, Rollie, Andre, they just re upped her
contract apparently two days after the election. They didn't want
that to be an election issue, So she's got a
bigger contract. And I note from prior reporting that I've
read around from other news outlets that she directed some
of the money to her husband to print T shirts
and hoodies and things of that. She hired her son
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to do some of the work on Government Square with
regard to the youth violence. We were having, so a
lot of nepotism going on in there. But being a
sub contractor not an employee of the city, I guess
she's allowed to do that, although it looks terrible. What's
your take on her involvement in all this? How did
she become such a powerful player in the city, and
how is it they keep bringing her back year after
year after year.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Andre, Clearly the start here, Iris Rowley is untouchable, Okay
at this point in the game of things that we've
witnessed since two thousand and one, in her direct involvement
with Tim Thomas h the shooting, she has not stopped
from that point. And interesting enough, she has done some
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uh say, good things with police reform, but it has
gone to a point of being overboard. I've been very
vocal about saying what exactly is her position. You got
to remember that Astab got in office strictly from Iris
Rowley beating the streets for him twice. Okay, she was
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the She was the one who started advocate avoc Aftab
early when he was elected, and he of course hired
her to city hall. She's been a consultant for sure
long and that's been clear, and she also was a
extreme selection for Chief Aji. So Iris Roly right now
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is above the law and she's moving in that same direction.
So it doesn't matter basically what goes on or what
people say, what's her payout, her husband's getting something. If
Aftab city Manager, council is allowing it, and she's a
consultant for the city, then do you look at Iris
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Roly or you'd you look at the leadership that's saying, hey,
this is what we are giving you the power to do,
and no one's gonna touch you, and you're going to
have all the backing necessary to do whatever you want.
And that's clear, and that is obvious in the way
that she moves and operates.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So because of her, I'll say that we use the
word popularity within a lot of people within the community,
she wields a lot of power over who those folks
in the community vote for. I don't understand blind allegiance, Andre,
but that's just apparently the way it is.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Considering that, well, we'll just say we've got some issues
with Iris Rolly in these contracts, and let's just say
the City of sinsineties this is too much. We're going
to break ties with her. You know. I know you
said she's untouchable, and I agree with you, because that's
the way it seems. Does anybody really think if they
cut Iris Rolly loose in advance of that election, that
Corey Bowman would be mayor? Now, I mean, could she
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go out there and all these blue Democrat, very blue
folks that live in the city, would they actually listen
to her and not vote for aftab Parvoll since he
was the only Democrat on the ticket. That much power?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yes, I'm gonna actually say she has that much power,
you know, to see she at every political event, she
has her hand in everything. She has the support of
Damon Lynch, has a lot of powerful pastors and business
owners in the city. You don't get to move the
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way she moves without having some serious, serious, major players
that are backing you up. Wow. And so when people
constantly say, man, how can she move this way and
that way? Hey, guess what if your big brother says
I don't care what you do, I got you, guess what,
You'll go in and bully anybody anytime, anywhere and have
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a voice in any position. If you look on any news,
speeds or what have you. IRIS is always in the
background somewhere. And so it's been clear that the af
TAB the council saying, hey, this is what we're gonna
write you a check to do these things. But I've
always just said, hey, where the money going, how is
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it distributed? Let's see the numbers of the total success
and make sure you're transparent to the city. Yeah, to
show these numbers.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and she's doing a great job and achieving the
goals that she was paid, that she's being paid to do,
then they should all be walking around trumpeting that. But apparently,
and this is kind of thing I learned from Todd
Zinzer and others. All the money that goes out to
these various very political, non governmental organizations to do work
in the community of whatever variety. Nobody's following up the
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scenes that's even being done. The money goes out, there's
no accountability. It just keeps going out. And I worry
about that because when you send out that kind of
money on a short budget we've got anyway, maybe that
money is going out because it finds a loop right
back into the pockets of candidates running for office.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Right There's a lot of issues that's going on, and
I've been clear to say, when you have things that
are just extreme, then maybe a federal audit needs to
come in and just look at the entire process. Just
do a federal audit, see where these numbers, this money
are being moved into certain hands, and get it from
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the top down. Because then if you do that, I
guarantee you fo once again follow the money and then
you will understand exactly how these things are being maneuvered.
But if no one questions that you can do whatever
you want when you're you're the sole bank in this project,
yes you can.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Andre youung pause will bring you back, We'll give you.
You get a comment or two on speaking of money,
Follow the Money Aftab's car trouble money Receive the talk
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Brian Thomas with Andrea Ewing. Andrea Ewing on Facebook follow him.
It gives on some excellent terrors and really things that
make you go hmm. He's speaking his heart and mind
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on matters he's familiar with. And as we pivot away
from Iris, rolly over to Aftab. Per I learned from
Todd Zenzer the other day when he was on our
Citizen Watchdog. He was a former Inspector General for the
federal government. We were talking about this very issue missing
his car payment and having his car repossessed. Embarrassing, yes,
but he mentioned that you as a federal government employee,
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they're not allowed to miss their payments because it creates
an opportunity for maybe bribery or extortion. So there's good
reasons you want your elected officials or those working in
government to be free from that possibility. So here we
have Aftab Purval running one of the larger cities in
this in the state of Ohio, can't even manage his
own finances and a really lame excuse, Andrea, I know
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you heard it. He came out and said, well, he
had problems with his payment app as if he wouldn't
have gotten notices independent of that app that he was
behind in his car payment so much so that they
were going to come and repossess his car. What's your
take on this, brother, Dre.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's my take on it. I'm laughing because this is ridiculous.
I mean, at the end of the day day, how
can you take care of the city if you can't
take care of your own home And it comes down
to the responsibilities of things that are in place. I'm
not going to give you a pass on that. I mean,
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I've never missed a car payment, never and AVTAB is
in control of way more money than I am, so
at the end of the day, it was just a
people can say, an honest mistake. No, it was once
again neglect, just sloppy what I call book keeping. And
if you can't even manage your own financial account, then
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I'm gonna go back to what I said prior to
our conversation. Let's do an entire federal audit on the
money since you've been in office, and let's see where
the money goes, because this is just a tell tale
of the issues and what has been involved since you've
been in office.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, and he's obviously paid well in mouth. He should
be able to afford a car payment. I don't know
what his financial situation is, but embarrassing at minimum. So
and again, lame excuse coming out of the gate after that,
no follow up either. I haven't heard anybody press them one. Well,
did you get any notices? Did they get reach out
to you? Your car just was gone one day and
you had no idea ahead of time that that might happen.
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I don't buy that for a minute. Andrew you another
one of your rants December fourth, on affordable housing. The
Wizard aftab strikes again. What were you ranting on about
this one?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Andre Hey, I've said he's Deani. He will look you
dead in your face and tell you. Public safety was
number one, two and three on his list, and I
know from a police officer standpoint that it was not.
He only came forward on it when he was pushed
into a corner. And the Sarah Heringer situation put everyone
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on blast. And so here we are again with a
housing situation. He knew this was going to happen, it
was already in place, and if you want to build
the housing. And it's interesting that Corey Bowman actually talked
about that, how these properties are being placed and built
and it's just a setup for say, here's a affordable
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housing of six hundred a month, but at time when
it comes, guess what it's going to raise through the roofs.
So what if he say, oh, I had absolutely no clue.
I'm just totally upset. Here we go again. You didn't
have a clue about your car payment, and now you
didn't have a clue about something as serious as property
in the City of Cincinnati that has to come across
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council when your death. I'm not buying it, and the
city better start paying attention.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well. One of the things that gave Corey Bowman at
least some traction was how the mayor treated the Hyde
Park residents in the Bond Hill residence with this connected
community's nonsense, this one size fits all. You will build
in accordance with these very limited standards, or you're not
going to build at all. I mean, how do you
expect to achieve afordable housing when you don't give neighborhoods
the flexibility. They need to do what they believe in
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that it is in their best interest. I find that
very puzzling.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, it is very pleasant. And I've already said affordable
housing is a it's a trick to get other things
in place. And if you look all across the city,
affordable housing is going to be a thing of the past.
You you can't you can't even get anything that's affordable
nowadays in the neighborhood. So this is going to backfire.
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I've seen it backfire. I've seen how things operate in
this city, and it's going to get worse. I remember,
if you can remind me, Brian, what was the uh
the train situation downtown that they were trying to promote,
and they they voted the city voted it down. But
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over time it ended up costing the city millions anyway,
with the street car, with the streetcar exactly now, when
that was going on, let me tell you something, let
me tell you something, and this is this is a fact.
When that was going on and they said they voted
it down, I'm doing details downtown Cincinnati and I'm and
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they're digging up the streets, And I asked, what project
do you have he said, oh, this is the streetcar.
I said, well, I was voted down. He said, well,
he said, that's above my pay grade. They told us
to start digging. It's going to get passed. And guess what,
it got passed. And that's a fact. That's not that's
not something I'm sitting here making up. You can go
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back and look at my say details when I was
doing as an officer, and that was getting placed in
before it was passed.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So the rumors that are swirling, and I've heard from
quite a few what I consider connected people that they're
talking about, at least behind the scenes, a second leg
of the street car, even if they deny it, that
maybe coming forward at some point, considering the history we've
got with the street car here.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Andre, Yeah, at this point, Brian, what what is this
city doing? I'm telling you this city is in trouble
and people better pay attention because even in my past posts,
I said, you want Gotham City overall, you're gonna get
Gotham City, whether it's the streetcar, whether it's this crazy
case going on with Elmwood Jones and theaters and Connie Pillage.
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This city is on edge and you got the Henderson
case coming up next month. I'm telling you right now,
brother Brian, this city is on edge, and this is
going to be a hot mess New Year's and spring
and summer coming up, just get ready.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I wish he had more better news on that one,
but I can't argue with you on that. Andre. It
does appear that things are heading in that direction. On
that dismissal that murder case. After all the dispositive evidence
and the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, all the appeals
that that guy went through is on death row thirty years,
they ultimately dismiss it. Question, do you think Iris Rolly
had anything to do with that?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I always ask how did em with Jones name even
come up? What was the I know they have the
innocence projects and they look into evidence or what have you,
But how did his name even come up? And what's
interesting is, of course Deeters released the letters that was
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uh uh that signal ninety nine posted as well, and
and Deaters has h expressed his outrage and and even
the family had expressed their outrage of talking about where
they're disappointed. Connie Pillage said, no, they are outraged of this,
uh this process. So this go once again now opens
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the door to investigate everything that Deaters and his investigative
team has touched and to see, uh, is there any
wrongful convictions, because that's what Connie Pillage clearly said that
they said this office got it wrong. And that's a deep,
deep statement.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well it is, most notably considering the appellate record. They
took it all the way from the state court through
the state process and the defendant move over to the
federal court and pursued federal processes, and all the courts
said no guilty and there was nothing there to even consider.
So I don't get this, and that's why it's a
big question mark for me. And that's kind of why
I threw the irus' early question because who brought this
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to their attention? And I believe in that project. I
don't think a man should be spending a moment time
in jail that didn't commit the crime, and let's get
him out of jail if he was convicted wrongfully. But
in this particular case, they just don't have the facts
on that one, at least that's my take on it.
Most notably, after what the Supreme Court Justice Dieter said
about when he was Hamlin County prosecutor and how the
case was prosecuted. Brother Dre Andre Ewing fin him on Facebook.
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Follow him, you'll love his rants. I appreciate you joining
the program today, Andre, and on behalf of my listening audience,
Joe Strekker and myself. We all wish you a very
very merry Christmas and happy New Year, and I hope
we I'm looking forward to talking with you in the
coming year, sir.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Likewise, Brian, thank you so much. I appreciate you and
you have a peaceful and safe holiday. And all the
listeners hug and love your family every second that you get.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Amen to that, and I'll underscore it and put it
in bold and all caps. Take care of brother Jery.
We'll talk again soon. It's eight forty nine fifty five.
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Fifty five kerc DE talk station Have eight Friday. A
man I thoroughly enjoy his post on Facebook. Outspoken he is.
He doesn't speak for anybody but himself, but excellent observations
he makes and speaking truth to power quite often. Retired
since a police officer after a storied, I believe, thirty
year career, he is involved with a group called Curse
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Breakers three hundred strong. It's a prison ministry advocate. He
is a man of faith and a man who's outspoken.
Welcome back, Brother Dre aka Andre Ewan. Good to have
you on the morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sir, Good morning, my man, Brian Man. I wanted to
see in person this morning, but ran into a couple
of win troubles from last night. But it's all good.
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's all good when we're talking to you, brother, and
I really would like to be seen across of the
board here, but that's okay. We'll do that again next year.
I know I'm hoping to have you on during Counteryere
twenty twenty six. I'm doing great. You're getting geared up
for the holidays, going to celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Andre, Yes, sir, just all about peace and happiness. That's it.
That's what we're practicing, just making sure we have peace
that are surpassed all understand.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
These amen to that. That's one of my favorite phrases,
Peace of God. It passes all human understanding. It's like
a lot of things in politics. Maybe it's like the
one point eight million dollar settlement to the protesters during
the twenty twenty floored protest. Let's start with that one,
Andre I understand from a lawyer's perspective, I understand the
argument that was made by the protesters. Listen, we have
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a First Amendment right to well, to protest, to speak politically,
to gather together in groups. And the riot situation was
there was a mixed bag of people who were just protesting,
but also people who were breaking the law, and things
got apparently out of control. I know, the mayor put
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a curfew in place, and so all these people who
were gathered together and put over in the Hamilton County
lockup in that area. I can't remember what they called that,
but it was sort of an outdoor area and held
there for a while, file this lawsuit claiming that their
civil rights got violated. So, yeah, we do have the
First Amendment, but there were a lot of crime in there.
Apparently the police arrested them for the curfew violation, not
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for specific crimes like blocking the street or throwing off
frozen water bottle or something like that that would result
in a separate criminal or could result in a separate
criminal charge, but because they were curfew violations, they claimed
it was a civil rights violation. So ultimately the city
wrote them a check for one point or eight point
one million dollars, which translates about twelve to thirteen thousand
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dollars per protester. As a former police officer and someone
who understands the situation, Andre Ewing, what's your take on
all this and what's your reaction to the settlement.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, of course you had over four hundred and seventy
nine plaintiffs and here you have a payout, and people
do understand this. What I call this game is to
get into certain groups, get into a protesting type situation,
and to bait the police so they can actually sue.
(03:06):
And this is interesting because this happens in a lot
of different places around the country. I mean, but to
really look deeper into an eight point one million dollar settlement,
I mean, the way the arrests were, they were a
lot of individuals that was told was being reckless. So
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it's interesting that it was strictly just being a curfew violation.
And that's where city leaders should have came together and
been more specific that am I just going to arrest
you and place you in the Hamilton count of Justice
Center on a specific pod because you violated a curfew?
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And so is it you violated a curfew or you
were being reckless during this twenty twenty George Floyd racial
justice protest. So the clarity is extremely week and it
would be interesting to see what was the actual plan,
to be honest with you, buy the police during this
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encounter to just arrest individuals that were violating the curfew.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah. I talk with former FOP president Dan Hills about this,
and he was very upset about this the settlement. But
I pointed to him and I's like, listen, from a
you know, lawyer perspective, From a constitutionalist perspective, you do
have the right to free assembly and that trumps the
curfew argument I would make because you know, adults are
allowed to go out at any given time and assemble,
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but peaceable assembly is different than breaking an individual law,
like for example, in the middle of the street. You're
blocking traffic. You can be cited for just that. It
doesn't matter what the time of day is, doesn't matter
if you're involved in protest or free speech. You're out
in the middle of the damn road. You can't be there.
Here's a ticket for that. If everyone who was arrested
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got an individual ticket under that type of scenario, then
I don't think you'd see this lawsuit. They wouldn't have
the civil rights argument that they made. But the problem was,
as it was explained to me, is that there were
so many people there it's virtually impossible for law enforcement
to figure out who's standing on the sidewalk versus who's
in the middle of the street, who's peaceably assembling, and
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who's not. And so you just gather them all up
and tell them they all violated the curfew. It was
the impetus behind the lawsuit. So what's your having been
a police officer for so many years, I mean, that's it.
I suppose that's a genuine problem parsing through the lawbreakers
and the ones that aren't.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And you know what, Brian, this is why I say
that I would love to see the body cam footage
from from point A to point B where they were arrested.
Let me see the details of what was actually presented
that was there, or did you have officers just being
reckless and going in and arresting just anybody. And that's
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where I'm sure that there were specific individuals that they
probably just gathered up that let's just say, were in
the crowd and we're trying to assemble peacefully. And we
know that is what generated the actual complaints. And once
you start getting one and two and three good complaints,
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you're going to get one hundred more following.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
No question about it. So had there been better management,
in other words, had the mayor gotten more actively involved
or sharel Long gotten more actively involved as city manager
or council getting more actively involved in directions to the
police department. I guess I'm just wondering where the breakdown
comes in, you know, explaining to them, though you just
can't randomly pick up people for peaceably assembling, you got
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to have a specific crime. Is that the kind of
directive as a police officer, when you were a police officer,
as you currently understand things, is that the kind of
thing you would expect council, the manager and or the
mayor to do in advance of the obviously knowing that
these protests are going on, hell had been going on
for several days, So what do you expect them to do?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well? See, this is what happens, Brian, when the left
hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and
the lack of communication. And I'm gonna be honest with you,
no matter what situation I was in, I remember the riots,
even with Tim Thomas and that particular situation, and at
the time, I'm gonna be the supervisors were ridiculous. And
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this is where you really have to sit back and
ask what are we doing at this particular time, how
are we doing it? And make sure te's a cross
and eyes or dotted. So somewhere in this particular situation,
somebody clearly dropped the ball and they just grabbed a
group of individuals and said, hey, we're gonna get these
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officers down here. If they across the street the wrong way,
arrest them. And this is where the breakdown is in communication.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And fair enough, Now your takeaway, did they collectively learn
anything from this on a going forward basis? New practices
or protocols put into place so we don't have to
continue to write checks.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Andre, you know what, I guess the answer will be.
We will soon see because we both know that there's
going to be another type of protest, another type of
writing situation, and this is where leadership matters and making
sure that the right people are in place that these
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things don't continue to happen again.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, well, I'll tell you what. We almost out
of time in this segment. I'm gonna break a little
bit early and let you know in advance on this
particular topic. Law enforcement generally and writing checks want to
hit you for what's the status on the Chief Washington situation?
Do we learn anything from that Chief Diji? Do we
ever get a reason for why they put her on
administrative leave? That one seems to be swirling with question marks?
(08:57):
And doesn't it not look like we're going to be
writing a couple of very long ar checks in connection
with their cases against the city. Let's continue with Brother
Dre Andre, you and curse breakers three hundred strong. It's
eight fourteen right now. We'll be right back after these
brief words. Fifty five KRC. You want to give the
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station eight eighteen fifty fock KRCD Talk Station, Happy Friday,
Brother Dre. You can call him Andre Ewing if you like.
That's his Facebook page, Andre A N. Dre e Ewing
e Wing. I follow him all the time. He does
great rants. He's on the program for this hour talking
about matters going on the city of Cincinnati, before we
get into the questions I have about former fire Chief
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Washington and the currently on administrative leave dismissed police chief
three Sothigi. I see that you are going to have
a brand new web page after the year. Is that
the one you want people to go to after the
first of the year, or are you going to stick
with Andrea Ewing. I'm just letting my friends know so
they can check out what you got to say.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Andre, Yes, sir, after the first of the year, go
go back to Curse Breakers three hundred dash, Brother Dre,
and all the content will be pushed over to that
particular page.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Fair enough, And you want to remind my listeners what
you do with Cursebreakers three hundred. I know it's prison ministry,
but just put a little more information on the bones
of that general description, because I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You're doing Yeah, Curse Breaker is three hundred just designed
to assist and help individuals to come over what I
call supernatural strongholds of things in their life. And so
it burst in the prison system to just give people
hope before they get released and to have them in
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a stronger mental, physical, and spiritual position. So it just
expands outside of prison because everyone in life is going
through some strongholds they need to break.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Isn't that true? And if you had to boil it
down to the single most or the predominant reason any
of the men that work with in prison and try
to turn their lives around why they got there or
how they got there, what would you point to Andre
if I can even put you on the spot along
those lines, Because you know a lot of reasons people
get into crime, but I think maybe the deterioration of
the family. I know drugs are quite often involved, but
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what drives a person to crime in them for the
most part that you've seen.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Is exactly what you said. That stronghold is extremely deep,
that upbringing death surrounding they I talk to kids even
at are ten years old, and we've always asked how
did you start getting hooked on drug? And they say,
oh wow, I learned it from my dad or my
mom or an adult. And so family is a key
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component on individuals that are incarcerated and.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A key component to success as well. Strong family is
more likely to lead to success regardless of income, I
would argue, correct, Andre.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Correct, correct, surprised. I've seen strong families break through the
utmost just strong holds just because they have that family support.
So it can work both ways.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, and sometimes in the absence of family, that's where
faith can be a great substitute. There is still some
hope and some reason to be a strong, positive, crime
free individual. All right, brother Dre, let's pivot over here.
We had the whole problem in the lawsuit that ensued
as a result of Chief Washington, the fire chief getting dismissed.
Looks like they're going to be writing a pretty big check.
I think all errors indicate that the city of Cincinnati's
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on the hook. Now we've got police chief threes a
Thigi and after the summer violence, she was put on
I guess, paid administrative leave and was left with a
substitute chief. Have you heard a specific reason why they
took that action against police Chiefdji? Because I haven't heard
a reason. It's almost as if they said, all right,
you're off the job, and then they're going to go
investigate on why they removed her from the position. Is
(12:57):
it like a ready fire aim or am I missing
some of the facts.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, you're not missing the facts. And this is the
ridiculousness of the city manager and the leadership. It just
appears that they have blank checks to write for everyone.
And even though I've been outspoken on the leadership of
Chief Thiji and the way things went, the way that
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the mayor and the city manager have conducted this process
has just been sloppy across the board. Mike Washington, the
fire former fire chief should have never been fired in
the first place. I mean there's no reason, no evidence whatsoever.
So to have somebody abuse their authority and consistently abuse
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their authority, it's interesting how the city is okay with
all these checks that are being written out that they're
going to have to pay. And at some point it's
people are going to have to prove a point saying
we support this type of nonsense by being silence, or
are we just gonna not support the city and move out.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, and I'm sure a lot of people making choices
along both of those lines. But you know, the big
component and all of this for me is usually and
is in this particular case. Why so you can say
they're abusing their authority. Yes they are, at least it
seems to be so. But they even if they came
out loud and said we have removed Chief Fiji for
this or these reasons, at least you could put look
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to the reasons they cited and say, well, that is
beyond your authority. There's no reason to dismiss her for that.
Or we could collectively say, you know what, that's a
pretty good reason. It sounds like you got something to
hang your hat on when she ultimately sues you for
wrongful termination or reputation violation or something like that. Instead
we get nothing, and you're.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Not gonna get nothing. And that's why at the beginning,
let's say you you make these decisions. At the beginning,
when the majority of police officers said, hey, look we
don't think Chief the is the actual best choice, you
decide to choose her anyway, And there are sources that
say that Cheryl Long clearly clearly stated that this is
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my pick and I cannot get this wrong. Okay, so
you fires or put somebody on administrative lead that you selected,
so you are part of the problem. And so I've
always been very very clear I'm not letting any of
them off the hook. But it still starts with Sheryl
Long And where is her experience to start to just
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fire individuals who may or may not deserve it and
does not do the proper investigation. And here we are
again with this foolishness, this nonsense, talking about this going
into the new year, making more and more payouts on
ridiculous information and how people leave this city. And plus
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it was a political move during the time, very strategic
to get rid of Fiji, so a have to have
to kind of separate hisself from that process.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
That sounds like a political motivation. It sounds like a
pretty strong argument you're making there, Andrea Ewing, I'm just wondering.
And we'll talk about this in the next segment when
we continue with Brother Dre. Did Iris Rowley have anything
to do with that? And what's with this six hundred
and fifty some one thousand dollars ever increasing sweetheart deals
she has with the city of Cincinnati And how much
controlled and power does she have it's unusual thing we've
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got going on here in the city. Will continue with
brother Dre. Take twenty five right now. If you five
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right aga. Much like Todd Zenzer, citizen watchdog, former inspector General.
He was on the program earlier this week talking about
some of the shenanigans going on with city council, the
mayor's office, et cetera. Andrea Ewing brother Dre would like
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to call him. He calls himself that Andrea Ewing on Facebook.
He rants regularly about some very important topics in the city.
Former law enforcement officer, thirty years on the force. Mike
write on that was thirty full years, Andre.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It was about just short of thirty. So let's just
say twenty nine and once you get over to half
is thirty years.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
There you are. I'll round up for you. Well, what
it's easy to do with you man, all right, pivoting over.
We talked a little bit about the whole chief situation
and the problems with that. Something tells me, because she's
been around for a long time, she has a very
very big contract with the city of Cincinnati, and she
is a profound critic of law enforcement, you know, or
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I guess, Iris, Rollie, Andre, they just re upped her
contract apparently two days after the election. They didn't want
that to be an election issue, So she's got a
bigger contract. And I note from prior reporting that I've
read around from other news outlets that she directed some
of the money to her husband to print T shirts
and hoodies and things of that. She hired her son
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to do some of the work on Government Square with
regard to the youth violence. We were having, so a
lot of nepotism going on in there. But being a
sub contractor not an employee of the city, I guess
she's allowed to do that, although it looks terrible. What's
your take on her involvement in all this? How did
she become such a powerful player in the city, and
how is it they keep bringing her back year after
year after year.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Andre, Clearly the start here, Iris Rowley is untouchable, Okay
at this point in the game of things that we've
witnessed since two thousand and one, in her direct involvement
with Tim Thomas h the shooting, she has not stopped
from that point. And interesting enough, she has done some
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uh say, good things with police reform, but it has
gone to a point of being overboard. I've been very
vocal about saying what exactly is her position. You got
to remember that Astab got in office strictly from Iris
Rowley beating the streets for him twice. Okay, she was
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the She was the one who started advocate avoc Aftab
early when he was elected, and he of course hired
her to city hall. She's been a consultant for sure
long and that's been clear, and she also was a
extreme selection for Chief Aji. So Iris Roly right now
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is above the law and she's moving in that same direction.
So it doesn't matter basically what goes on or what
people say, what's her payout, her husband's getting something. If
Aftab city Manager, council is allowing it, and she's a
consultant for the city, then do you look at Iris
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Roly or you'd you look at the leadership that's saying, hey,
this is what we are giving you the power to do,
and no one's gonna touch you, and you're going to
have all the backing necessary to do whatever you want.
And that's clear, and that is obvious in the way
that she moves and operates.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So because of her, I'll say that we use the
word popularity within a lot of people within the community,
she wields a lot of power over who those folks
in the community vote for. I don't understand blind allegiance, Andre,
but that's just apparently the way it is.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Considering that, well, we'll just say we've got some issues
with Iris Rolly in these contracts, and let's just say
the City of sinsineties this is too much. We're going
to break ties with her. You know. I know you
said she's untouchable, and I agree with you, because that's
the way it seems. Does anybody really think if they
cut Iris Rolly loose in advance of that election, that
Corey Bowman would be mayor? Now, I mean, could she
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go out there and all these blue Democrat, very blue
folks that live in the city, would they actually listen
to her and not vote for aftab Parvoll since he
was the only Democrat on the ticket. That much power?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yes, I'm gonna actually say she has that much power,
you know, to see she at every political event, she
has her hand in everything. She has the support of
Damon Lynch, has a lot of powerful pastors and business
owners in the city. You don't get to move the
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way she moves without having some serious, serious, major players
that are backing you up. Wow. And so when people
constantly say, man, how can she move this way and
that way? Hey, guess what if your big brother says
I don't care what you do, I got you, guess what,
You'll go in and bully anybody anytime, anywhere and have
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a voice in any position. If you look on any news,
speeds or what have you. IRIS is always in the
background somewhere. And so it's been clear that the af
TAB the council saying, hey, this is what we're gonna
write you a check to do these things. But I've
always just said, hey, where the money going, how is
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it distributed? Let's see the numbers of the total success
and make sure you're transparent to the city. Yeah, to
show these numbers.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and she's doing a great job and achieving the
goals that she was paid, that she's being paid to do,
then they should all be walking around trumpeting that. But apparently,
and this is kind of thing I learned from Todd
Zinzer and others. All the money that goes out to
these various very political, non governmental organizations to do work
in the community of whatever variety. Nobody's following up the
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scenes that's even being done. The money goes out, there's
no accountability. It just keeps going out. And I worry
about that because when you send out that kind of
money on a short budget we've got anyway, maybe that
money is going out because it finds a loop right
back into the pockets of candidates running for office.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Right There's a lot of issues that's going on, and
I've been clear to say, when you have things that
are just extreme, then maybe a federal audit needs to
come in and just look at the entire process. Just
do a federal audit, see where these numbers, this money
are being moved into certain hands, and get it from
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the top down. Because then if you do that, I
guarantee you fo once again follow the money and then
you will understand exactly how these things are being maneuvered.
But if no one questions that you can do whatever
you want when you're you're the sole bank in this project,
yes you can.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Andre youung pause will bring you back, We'll give you.
You get a comment or two on speaking of money,
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It gives on some excellent terrors and really things that
make you go hmm. He's speaking his heart and mind
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on matters he's familiar with. And as we pivot away
from Iris, rolly over to Aftab. Per I learned from
Todd Zenzer the other day when he was on our
Citizen Watchdog. He was a former Inspector General for the
federal government. We were talking about this very issue missing
his car payment and having his car repossessed. Embarrassing, yes,
but he mentioned that you as a federal government employee,
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they're not allowed to miss their payments because it creates
an opportunity for maybe bribery or extortion. So there's good
reasons you want your elected officials or those working in
government to be free from that possibility. So here we
have Aftab Purval running one of the larger cities in
this in the state of Ohio, can't even manage his
own finances and a really lame excuse, Andrea, I know
(24:38):
you heard it. He came out and said, well, he
had problems with his payment app as if he wouldn't
have gotten notices independent of that app that he was
behind in his car payment so much so that they
were going to come and repossess his car. What's your
take on this, brother, Dre.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's my take on it. I'm laughing because this is ridiculous.
I mean, at the end of the day day, how
can you take care of the city if you can't
take care of your own home And it comes down
to the responsibilities of things that are in place. I'm
not going to give you a pass on that. I mean,
(25:14):
I've never missed a car payment, never and AVTAB is
in control of way more money than I am, so
at the end of the day, it was just a
people can say, an honest mistake. No, it was once
again neglect, just sloppy what I call book keeping. And
if you can't even manage your own financial account, then
(25:35):
I'm gonna go back to what I said prior to
our conversation. Let's do an entire federal audit on the
money since you've been in office, and let's see where
the money goes, because this is just a tell tale
of the issues and what has been involved since you've
been in office.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, and he's obviously paid well in mouth. He should
be able to afford a car payment. I don't know
what his financial situation is, but embarrassing at minimum. So
and again, lame excuse coming out of the gate after that,
no follow up either. I haven't heard anybody press them one. Well,
did you get any notices? Did they get reach out
to you? Your car just was gone one day and
you had no idea ahead of time that that might happen.
(26:13):
I don't buy that for a minute. Andrew you another
one of your rants December fourth, on affordable housing. The
Wizard aftab strikes again. What were you ranting on about
this one?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Andre Hey, I've said he's Deani. He will look you
dead in your face and tell you. Public safety was
number one, two and three on his list, and I
know from a police officer standpoint that it was not.
He only came forward on it when he was pushed
into a corner. And the Sarah Heringer situation put everyone
(26:47):
on blast. And so here we are again with a
housing situation. He knew this was going to happen, it
was already in place, and if you want to build
the housing. And it's interesting that Corey Bowman actually talked
about that, how these properties are being placed and built
and it's just a setup for say, here's a affordable
(27:09):
housing of six hundred a month, but at time when
it comes, guess what it's going to raise through the roofs.
So what if he say, oh, I had absolutely no clue.
I'm just totally upset. Here we go again. You didn't
have a clue about your car payment, and now you
didn't have a clue about something as serious as property
in the City of Cincinnati that has to come across
(27:31):
council when your death. I'm not buying it, and the
city better start paying attention.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well. One of the things that gave Corey Bowman at
least some traction was how the mayor treated the Hyde
Park residents in the Bond Hill residence with this connected
community's nonsense, this one size fits all. You will build
in accordance with these very limited standards, or you're not
going to build at all. I mean, how do you
expect to achieve afordable housing when you don't give neighborhoods
the flexibility. They need to do what they believe in
(27:56):
that it is in their best interest. I find that
very puzzling.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, it is very pleasant. And I've already said affordable
housing is a it's a trick to get other things
in place. And if you look all across the city,
affordable housing is going to be a thing of the past.
You you can't you can't even get anything that's affordable
nowadays in the neighborhood. So this is going to backfire.
(28:25):
I've seen it backfire. I've seen how things operate in
this city, and it's going to get worse. I remember,
if you can remind me, Brian, what was the uh
the train situation downtown that they were trying to promote,
and they they voted the city voted it down. But
(28:45):
over time it ended up costing the city millions anyway,
with the street car, with the streetcar exactly now, when
that was going on, let me tell you something, let
me tell you something, and this is this is a fact.
When that was going on and they said they voted
it down, I'm doing details downtown Cincinnati and I'm and
(29:06):
they're digging up the streets, And I asked, what project
do you have he said, oh, this is the streetcar.
I said, well, I was voted down. He said, well,
he said, that's above my pay grade. They told us
to start digging. It's going to get passed. And guess what,
it got passed. And that's a fact. That's not that's
not something I'm sitting here making up. You can go
(29:28):
back and look at my say details when I was
doing as an officer, and that was getting placed in
before it was passed.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So the rumors that are swirling, and I've heard from
quite a few what I consider connected people that they're
talking about, at least behind the scenes, a second leg
of the street car, even if they deny it, that
maybe coming forward at some point, considering the history we've
got with the street car here.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Andre, Yeah, at this point, Brian, what what is this
city doing? I'm telling you this city is in trouble
and people better pay attention because even in my past posts,
I said, you want Gotham City overall, you're gonna get
Gotham City, whether it's the streetcar, whether it's this crazy
case going on with Elmwood Jones and theaters and Connie Pillage.
(30:17):
This city is on edge and you got the Henderson
case coming up next month. I'm telling you right now,
brother Brian, this city is on edge, and this is
going to be a hot mess New Year's and spring
and summer coming up, just get ready.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I wish he had more better news on that one,
but I can't argue with you on that. Andre. It
does appear that things are heading in that direction. On
that dismissal that murder case. After all the dispositive evidence
and the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, all the appeals
that that guy went through is on death row thirty years,
they ultimately dismiss it. Question, do you think Iris Rolly
had anything to do with that?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I always ask how did em with Jones name even
come up? What was the I know they have the
innocence projects and they look into evidence or what have you,
But how did his name even come up? And what's
interesting is, of course Deeters released the letters that was
(31:23):
uh uh that signal ninety nine posted as well, and
and Deaters has h expressed his outrage and and even
the family had expressed their outrage of talking about where
they're disappointed. Connie Pillage said, no, they are outraged of this,
uh this process. So this go once again now opens
(31:46):
the door to investigate everything that Deaters and his investigative
team has touched and to see, uh, is there any
wrongful convictions, because that's what Connie Pillage clearly said that
they said this office got it wrong. And that's a deep,
deep statement.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Well it is, most notably considering the appellate record. They
took it all the way from the state court through
the state process and the defendant move over to the
federal court and pursued federal processes, and all the courts
said no guilty and there was nothing there to even consider.
So I don't get this, and that's why it's a
big question mark for me. And that's kind of why
I threw the irus' early question because who brought this
(32:30):
to their attention? And I believe in that project. I
don't think a man should be spending a moment time
in jail that didn't commit the crime, and let's get
him out of jail if he was convicted wrongfully. But
in this particular case, they just don't have the facts
on that one, at least that's my take on it.
Most notably, after what the Supreme Court Justice Dieter said
about when he was Hamlin County prosecutor and how the
case was prosecuted. Brother Dre Andre Ewing fin him on Facebook.
(32:53):
Follow him, you'll love his rants. I appreciate you joining
the program today, Andre, and on behalf of my listening audience,
Joe Strekker and myself. We all wish you a very
very merry Christmas and happy New Year, and I hope
we I'm looking forward to talking with you in the
coming year, sir.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Likewise, Brian, thank you so much. I appreciate you and
you have a peaceful and safe holiday. And all the
listeners hug and love your family every second that you get.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Amen to that, and I'll underscore it and put it
in bold and all caps. Take care of brother Jery.
We'll talk again soon. It's eight forty nine fifty five.
Care se
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