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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good is coming from bad.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Fifty five KRC the Talk station about six to fifty
five KRCD Talk Station. AM very happy Wednesday. Tom made
an extra special and I've been waiting forward to this
moment in time since the last time I had Bill
O'Reilly on the program. Everybody in my listening audience doesn't
need an introduction when it comes to Bill O'Reilly. Multiple

(00:32):
Emmy winner. He has written multiple books, more than twenty
million books in print, and they are wonderful, every one
of them. I've read about I think probably twenty of
Bill's books. You case can't put them down. And that
is the case with the new and welcome to the
fifty five KRSE Morning Show to talk about your new book,
Confronting Evil Assessing a worst of the Worst. Bill O'Reilly,

(00:52):
it is fantastic. Have you back on the fifty five
KRC Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
How you Been I've been great?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Took me a period of two days, basically about maybe
three four hours read the whole thing cover to cover.
Could barely put it down, and I didn't want to
put it down after the first day. I love the
afterward is where I want to start, if I may,
Here's my definition of evil, you right, harming a human
being without remorse, vivid, concise, nothing more needed. Of course,
self and family defense as well as righteous war situations

(01:20):
are not part of the evil equation in this world.
The primary drivers of wickedness are money power and zelotry,
as you document in this book going through some of
the world's worst multi mass murders in history. You want
to relate this, if I may be so bold, to
what happened with Charlie Kirk and how we're working through

(01:40):
the issues that are unfolding with regard to that murder,
which seems to be born of what you define as evil.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, it's pretty eerie.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I mean, the book was out last Tuesday, and then Wednesday,
I wake up and Putin's lob and missiles into poland
Putin on the cover of Confronting Evil, and then a
few hours later, Charlie Kirk is assassinated. I'm sitting there
on WHOA. Obviously, the Kirk murder is an evil act,

(02:13):
and evil metastasizes so that his family, mister Kirk's family
never be the same to little kids as widow, and
then the family of the alleged shooter. They're destroyed across
the board. So evil always takes a lot of people
with it. But there's no question that the man who

(02:38):
will be convicted in the murder of Charlie Kirk, you know,
it's hard to say he's evil one hundred percent, but
certainly he's got to be put in that category at
this point.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, certainly hasn't risen the level of Genghis Khan, who,
as you point out, was responsible for killing around fifty
million people. Or you could pivot over to the worst
mass murder in the world's history, eighty million dead under
Mount se Dung. You know, it's kind of strange, Bill O'Reilly.
You know, you read the book and you begin with Caligula,
and there's the problem with leadership based on birthright or

(03:17):
family connections. That guy was off the charts insane, as
you well document, and he did indiscriminate violence, killed people
at will. No one even knew who he was going
to kill. The next day. You could be best friends
with Coligial one day and the next day he seeing
to it that you're executed murdered by some twisted mechanism.
But many times I kind of struggle with how these

(03:38):
individuals were able to obtain the power and then gain
it in spite of the fact that they were so
evil and so many people lived under the threat. That's
the problem when you have a government that threatens its
own people with death if they don't follow the party line.
You get everybody turning each and everybody in Oh my
next door neighbor uttered something against the administration, you find
that person's gone, disappeared, murdered. How is it that evil

(04:01):
has been able over and over again? Bill a rally to.
I hate to use the word succeed.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Because people will turn away. Brian, all of fifteen men,
I couldn't even find a woman to get up into
that evil category. You know, as far as comparing a
female to what these males did, there one never existed

(04:29):
at that level. But if you look at all fifteen
men that we profile, all of them have relevance today.
So I eat Colligula way back in the Roman emper
are they, Oh well, what does that have to do
with America. Well, Rome was the most powerful nation in
the ancient world for centuries in a collapse, and a

(04:50):
collapse because of evil.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Could that happen to America?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Absolutely absolutely, And if you don't learn the lessons of
how evil metastasizes, how it takes root. I mean, look
at the German people. German Americans are the largest ethnic
group in the country, and I know you have a
lot of German Americans in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
And in nineteen thirty four, the German people voted ninety
percent to give it oflf Hitler dictatorial powers ninety percent
and the police state wasn't even in full form, yet
they did it because they wanted to do it. So

(05:40):
evil comes in a lot of different ways and a
lot of different disguises. But in the modern world in
America today, many, perhaps most Americans look away from it.
And that's how it takes root, and that's how it
does its damage.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
And the demand for edis I think is largely behind that.
You know, Oh man, we got to deal with the Congress.
They have to pass the law. We need somebody just
can just get it done. Go ahead and do it,
you know. And I can use this in the context
I find offensive that Donald Trump blew up people in
about thousand miles plus away. Did they really represent an
imminent threat? Can he just willingly declare someone a narco

(06:19):
terrorist and then just kill them? And a lot of
people are plotting that that's expedient. He got the job done.
The drugs aren't coming to our country, period and the story.
But that's kind of like relinquishing the masses authority to
control the direction of their lives by handing over complete
power to a crazy guy like Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I disagree there.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think that the evil that drugs are bringing into
not only the United States but all over the world,
killing millions of people, till millions of people die every
year from drug overdosers, and those who don't die are enslaved,
their families are ruined in many cases.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You have to stop the worse of that evil.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
True, And I talked to President Trump about this on
a number of occasions.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I said, there's only.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
One way, only one way on this kind of an evil,
and that is to declare it a national security problem,
which it is, and then use the military to punish them.
And if you do that, you'll cut it down fifty
sixty percent. I mean, believe me. In the cartel world
and we profile two of them in confronting evil. So

(07:31):
they're not real happy today. Okay, then look it up
at the sky because a drone could hit them at
any time. No, And to me, that's fine. These people
are as evil as they come. And it extends even
to the sidewalks of Cincinnati where you have neighborhoods where

(07:52):
the heroin dealers and fentanyl dealers stand outside and hawk
their wares.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Exactly, they let them do it.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
But you know, I guess what do you?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Maybe I'm a constitutional purist to a certain degree, and
we got due process. We also don't have the death
penalty for drug dealing. Now we did, maybe you could
justify killing them, but even if they were caught in
US waters with a bunch of drugs, you couldn't execute them.
You'd have to set them through courts, prove that they
were guilty, and then throw them in jail for however
period of time.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I like it, but.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
It is a different situation because we have a law
that says if a president designates a group, and Trump
has specified which groups to be terrorists, then the US
military can take them out. That's why I wrote killing
the killers.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, because that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
What Obama and Trump did with Isis, with Solomoni and
the Iranian National Guard, with al Qaeda, with Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's exactly what they did.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
There was no due process for those people because they
were deemed to be a threat to national security. It's
a different situation than a domestic crime.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, one of the more interesting elements, and it shows
the benefit of living in our society where we do
have the freedom to control the direction of where we go.
You highlight Franklin and Armfield, these slave traders. They earned
and built up a profit of two point three billion
dollars in today's net worth by selling humanity. Thankfully, we're
not that country anymore. We changed the dynamic. Guess we

(09:27):
had to go through a bloody revolution to do it,
but we no longer are a slave country. So this
illustrates the point of being in a democracy, a republic,
versus this dictatorial reality where you're living with a mass
murderer who can well basically decide your fate on a whim.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, there's no question that the United States is a
republic that grants most power to the people. The problem
now is a lot of the people don't care excuse me,
don't exercise their vogte, don't pay attention, don't know anything.
Public school education system has collapsed.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
In many areas.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
People create bubble worlds based on social media. We've got
a lot of problems in the area of who's exercising power.
That are slavers who became the richest men in the world,
two of them.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
What they did was so heinous.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
That I had to put it on the page because
people don't understand exactly how that industry worked exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
That's the benefit of this book. I didn't know anybody
Vladimir Putin. He you know, honestly, you know, I've been
around a long time, about be sixty years old on Sunday,
Bill O'Reilly, and I've read a lot about Vladimir Putin,
and I hated the Soviet Union when they were there.
I grew up in that Cold War era, you know,
the evil commies. I understand that. But you document Vladimir
Putin's life. This guy is a hardcore murderer, torturer, criminal

(10:54):
enterprise kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And a psychopath. And he has nuclear weapons.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yes, so, I mean that's the most dangerous situation on
the planet right now. Who but my job as a
journalist slash historian is to inform. And a year ago,
because me a year to write and research these books,

(11:19):
I said to myself, you know, I'm seeing a lot
of evil in America and around the world. And then
I look back and the only other time in our history,
modern history was the nineteen thirties and after the Great Depression,
when all of the tutalitarian regimes rose up in Europe
and Japan and the result was one hundred million dead
in World War Two. Now we're not at that level now,

(11:42):
but the same mentality exists. Evil is not being confronted.
In New York City where I am. The people may
elect a mayor who's a communist and who openly says
I'm not going to win for where's the law? Well,
what to do do you think is going to happen

(12:03):
with eight and a half million people? I know the
bodies are just going to mount. It's going to be
a catastrophe. And my say, anybody who votes for this man, Donnie,
is that's an evil act. You may not be evil,
but giving this man power when he's looking you in
the eye telling you that he's going to foster anarchy

(12:27):
and allow violence in the nation's largest city.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
What are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
And the answer is yeah, a lot of people in America,
for whatever reason, have lost their way.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yes they have. And I think in your afterward you
address some of the primary reasons for that decline, a
theological belief, embrace of selfish behavior, and the high tech
delivery system in the form of the Internet, which allows
people to sit in their basement in their mom's house
and be subjected to all kinds of evil forces without
a balancing message being presented. Build.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, that's having to happen to the guy in Utah,
That's exactly what happened to him. And you know, again
I wrote to this book, I'm saying to myself, I'm
not nostra damas. You are right the you know, the
guys said to me, the release of your book last
week was haunting base of all what's happened since. And

(13:23):
I think that's an accurate word.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
It is.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And as soon as I heard about the murder and
the circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination, your book is the
first thing I thought of, and I thought, Man, isn't
it amazing. I'll be talking to Bill O'Reilly about this
next week, Confronting Evil, assessing the worst of the worst.
My guest today, the incomparable Bill O'Reilly. I guarantee you
will love this book, like all of his books, Get

(13:46):
a copy of it at fifty five krse dot com
is a link there, Bill, so my listeners can easily
get a copy of this outstanding book. Thank you for
what you do. Thank you for coming on the morning
show and talking about your book and the work that
you do. And I'm waiting for the next one already,
Bill O'Reilly.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Thank you, Brian. I appreciate it my place. It's a
pleasure to talk with you.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
My pleasure indeed, and my listener's pleasure as well. Thank you, sir.
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