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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's seven to six. I think you've have KROSD talk station.
I wish and everybody are very happy Wenesday. Broon Thomas
always happy to I have Corey Bowman mayor ol candidate
coming up this November. You got an option, don't have
to stick with the same path or maybe a better
chance than Corey Bowman. I think represents a better path.
But sadly, being a candidate in these modern times comes
with its challenges and its downside risk. Corey Bowman, welcome

(00:24):
back to the Morning Show. It's good to have you on.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, good mor and Brian. It's always honored to.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Be on and a distressing reason you're on. I reached
out to you yesterday after I found out and you
can provide the details because they were limited. A little bird,
my favorite little bird, providing me with information. I had
a conversation with you. He revealed to me that you
have been receiving death threats. That's an accurate statement.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well yeah, I mean I think that the threats come
in all different shapes and sizes. But a lot of
people were asking, you know, with everything happening in the
last few weeks with you assassination of Charlie Kirk if
we had had any threats, and I had just told
him that it would be honest with you, ever since
we announced this campaign, that we had received threats, you know,

(01:10):
whether it be through the channels of our church messages
or through even our coffee shop, and then even the
last few weeks, it was just something that we kind
of looked at a little bit more seriously because you know,
obviously I have a wife and four kids, and we
just want to take the right precautions if they're needed.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, so I understand that you received some threats through
the church.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, so just through messages of the church, And I mean,
to be honest with you, it's something that you know,
we're nice, you know, exactly surprised about because I mean,
even in the area that we're in. You know, sometimes
you know, when you have a church, or when you
have outreaches, or if you're doing things, you ruffle some
feathers here or there. And then politically, when people found

(01:54):
out that you know that I'm connected, whether it be
through you know, me being the past or the church,
you know, people want a form of communication, and if
they don't have my number or any public communication there,
then they just go straight to hey, connected to a river,
a church, So it'll be through a message, you know,
on Facebook or whatever, and then through our coffee shops

(02:17):
stiffly just you know, kind of been through messages or
Google reviews or other things like that.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Is there any context in connection to the message You're
being threatened because of your particular stance on an issue
or these just generalized type of threats.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, I think overall, like let's look back at what happened,
you know, a few weeks ago with Charlie Kirk, because
Charlie was not running for office, he was just having
an opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
He was having these events.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
On college campuses and he was simply just opening up
for debate. And with those debates came very you know,
contradicting opinions.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And I think that's something that's.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Healthy in our society that we need to have healthy debate, debate,
We need to have contradicting opinions. But what I what
we found is that when you have opinions that kind
of contradict each other with certain groups, a lot of
times their actually response to that is whether it be
violence or whether it be with messages that kind of

(03:21):
become threatening. And so for us specifically, we had, you know,
been a part of what really became real to me
was that we got offered to speak at the vigil,
the Charlie Kirk vigil at University of Cincinnati. This was
happening last Tuesday. So when we got asked, I didn't
promote it myself because not out of fear, I just

(03:44):
didn't want to make it about me. I knew that
if I announced it then become a campaign event. But
I wanted to just simply be there to honor Charlie.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And so when we got up, you know, or when
we were about to h head there, you know, we
had contacted a third party security company and I basically.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Just said, hey, can you just at least assess the
threat level. You know, I don't want to take on
anything that's not needed. And we had left CPD know too,
so I said, coordinate with CPD. If there's not a
thread or if there's not anything that's really you know, needed,
I'm fine with just going by myself. I'll just drive
myself there, but I at least just want to take

(04:24):
precautions in case. So they coordinated with CPD and with
uc CPD.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And they came back and their threat.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
You know, assessment basically required that I have a three
detail along.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
With UCPD and CPD coordinating. They had drones and a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Of surveillance in the area because they were making sure
that nothing was getting done. And you know, it just
came a little bit more real to me. This is
something to where I'm like, Hey, I don't want to
make a big deal. I was surprised when you reached
out to me, because, to be honest with you, I
never really want to make it about these drama things.
I want to make it about the issues that we're
running on. But yeah, it is has become a reality

(05:04):
that there are some people that feel that the best
course of action is violence, and we couldn't be more
on the opposite side of that.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well, right, And you know, I'll draw a parallel. You
have a very Cory or Charlie kirk ask mannerism about
you and your campaign. You have an open door policy.
You're willing to sit down and talk with anybody. Why
wouldn't someone who has a different political id idea or
different political philosophy want to take the time to sit
down with you and engage in this thoughtful conversation because
they believe they're on the right side of the argument

(05:33):
at least take a stab at maybe trying to convince
you that they're right and you're wrong. You do this
all the time. In fact, I saw Andre Ewing's post
Curse Breaker three hundred. He's great. I've had on the
program several times. He said he was. You know, he
had an outreach program with all the people who follow
him on Facebook. Listen, he's there waiting to talk to you.
Go take him up on it, you know, don't be

(05:55):
a coward and just you know, and you take these
pot shots, sit out and talk with him. So I mean,
I'm impressed by that, and I think in these difficult
times that you're willing to do that. I don't think
you have to have provolls engaged in an outreach program
to sitting down and invite you perhaps to sit down
and talk with him. So profound difference in campaign styles,
but you know, it just it's it's sort of a

(06:17):
it's a small local campaign illustration of the broader problem
we face, which is, you know, violence is not argument,
like like curse words are not argument. Those are just
name calling. You have reached the lowest form of debate,
which isn't even debate when you go down that path
that suggests me obviously, I think it's capitulation by resorting
to violence and threats of violence. They've admitted that they

(06:39):
lost the argument.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
No, I think you're right, and you know, you know,
I was kind of might have. First time I experienced
something was you know, I have a friend that lives
in Hamilton, Ohio, and he's been my best friend since.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Literally we were born. So when we first got our yard.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Signs, he was like, hey, I want a yard time,
and I was like, well, you're in Hamilton, but yeah,
you can have a yard time. And so he took it,
put it up in his yard. Apparently somebody had run
over with their car my sign and then they had
removed it out of his yard, and he had got
I mean, it's just in Hamilton, Ohio. And that's when

(07:20):
I kind of realized that something was going on here.
And ultimately I know who my brother is. People know
who my brother is, and so they're kind of putting,
you know, hey, if they can't get to the vice president,
you know, then they're going to trust high take it
out on his brother. And so I've kind of realized
that you know, I'm just kind of a target when

(07:40):
comes that, but right now, specifically, Brian, I'm telling you,
we're making a lot of momentum when it comes to
this race for Cincinnati, and people are starting to wake
up and understand that we've got to have a difference
in leadership and difference in the direction that we're going.
And that's ruffling a lot of feathers too, because we're
not just to run for a candidacy. We're there to

(08:03):
make sure that our city.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Is not going in the same direction that it's been
going the previous years.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, and I maybe the threats of violence are a
reflection of their concerned you might actually win this thing.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
The other component of this is you and I have
talked about it, and we found out and think guys
like Todd Zens or Citizen Watchdog have revealed all of
the money the city taxpayer dollars that are flowing out
into the world supporting these non governmental organizations who purport
to go out into the world and solve problems in
the community or whatever they purport to say. They get
a lot of money, and that money is under threat

(08:37):
with Corey Bowman as mayor, because you promised to run
a fiscally responsible ship, and we of course have a
finite number of dollars. Maybe that money should go to
the roads or perhaps police, but they run the risk
of losing their funding. That could be a real big
concern out there among those organizations and maybe fueling some
of this.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah. Well, I've said it from the beginning, and is
that the way that our country's.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Going right now? There's a lot of things that are.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Getting wrecked when it comes to corruption and waste of money.
And I really believe that these downtown cities, this isn't
just in Cincinnati, this is all across the board in America,
that these downtown cities, for a lot of these people,
it's the last stand for corruption and for waste in
policy or waste in budget.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Because let's look at New York City for example.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
You know, we have a race going on to where
you have a socialist that's running for mayor of New
York City, right, and then you have a bunch of
other candidates. But let's look at who is actually running
too that Andrew Cuomo said that he was running for
mayor Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
This is a man that used to be the governor.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
And so when I saw that, I realized what was
going on is that a lot of Democratic heavy hitters,
instead of running for a state or even federal offices.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You're going to see a lot of them start running
for city offices because this is the the ground zero
for that last stand. And a lot of the money
through these city budgets are being funneled into nonprofits, into NGOs,
and then what happens is that a lot of this
money that's being fundled not only turns into kickbacks, but
it turns into campaign donations. Yea, it really does. It

(10:20):
turns into campaign donations that is going to continue these
candidates to have strong campaigns.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
And so that's what we're up against as well, because we're.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Running this campaign on common sense. I really believe that
city government, you're a glorified custodian. You simply just need
to make sure that the city is safe, that the
city is clean, and that you're spending the money properly.
There's no room for all these national politics when it
comes to just your city government. You're supposed to take

(10:52):
care of the people that you're in charge of in
the city of Cincinnati, and that's not what's happening at
the current leadership, they've allowed all these shoes, they've allowed
all these agendas to kind of push all of the
priorities in the budget. And then on top of that,
I mean, being in the West End. I think that's
probably the biggest thing that has opened my eyes because

(11:14):
the West End has been the dumping grounds for a
lot of these failed policies and a lot of this corruption,
a lot of these nonprofits and NGOs. Whenever contractors or
developers that are local reach out to these properties that
are owned by these organizations, they get told that, oh,
there's a twelve month waiting period and you can't build

(11:35):
unless it fits with the zoning of what we agree with.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Well, I know what a portfolio game looks like.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I know when you say, hey, there's twelve month waiting
period on a condemned or on a vacant property, then
you're trying to hold it on your books for a
long amount of time so that you can utilize it
as an asset for something else.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And that's exactly what a lot.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Of these communities have become is just they've been portfolio
games and they've been on the books a lot of
these organizations so that they can get richer and richer,
and I believe that that's wrong well.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And the other component to these NGOs out there in
the world not just money that may be flowing back
into various council people or mayoral candidates campaign coffers, but
they always come with a team of people out in
the world who are willing to campaign and actively door knock,
put up signs, or provide you know, on the ground
resource work for these various candidates to keep them in office.

(12:31):
So there's bodies, and there's money, and there's a lot
of potential for corruption there and I think they see
the writing on the wall potentially for that. Real quick,
you mentioned the West End. You are there, you live there,
your church is there, your business is there. In so
far as that you're the safety of your business in church.
Are you getting a lot of support from the folks
in the West End and looking that have your back
and are looking out for you.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So, I mean we have security systems that are coffee
shopping in our church with these events.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
What we're doing, you.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Know, moving forward with everything, and we've always had like
you know, helps ministry, but also like people that know
what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
We have to retired.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
CPD officers that help run security at our church, and
so that's always been something that we consider because we
keep the parishioners safe. We make sure that people know
that we may come to church downtown, that they are
coming to a safe environment where all they're there to
do is hear the word of God and experience fellowship.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
With other people. And so they're going to experience that
at our coffee shop.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I joke around and I tell people that, you know,
we have their CPD that drive around because it's part
of their route and their beat, and we have our
security system, but my greatest security system is the people around.
It's the neighbor and because they actually like us being there,
I just say that the hood has my back because
a lot of these guys they come in every morning

(13:56):
to get their black cup of coffee. Or there's one
of my customers, he's gotta he calls it a god mode,
but it's simply just a red eye.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's a block cup of coffee and the espresso machine.
He comes.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
He's a local business guy and he lives right across
the street.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And I just tell people.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
That the community has our back more than anybody there
you are, and that's really how a lot of these
neighborhoods operate. You know, if you try to mess with
any of them, the best people to talk to is
people in neighborhood because they'll be on their phone and say, hey,
they know exactly what group of young people you know
messed around with that car.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
They know exactly.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
And so we got connections not just in the government
or and the police, we got the right connections in
the neighborhood as well.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So it's got Corey's back, Cory's got the hoods back,
and that is any neighborhood in town when it comes
to him being mayor of the City of Cincinnati. Cory Bowman,
God bless you, sir. You might want to let the
FBI know about the death threats as well. We'll be
praying for you and look forward to having you back
on the show real soon.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
My friend, Hey, I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I want to remind everybody that the last day to
register to vote is October sixth, and early voting starts
October seventh, So we can, you know, complain all we want.
We can actually look at what's happening in our city
and be discouraged, or we can get out and vote.
So everybody, get out. Vote for Corey Bowman for mayor Cincinnati.
Go to Corey Bowman dot com, but also research all

(15:13):
the council candidates and vote for who is going to
stand up for the city.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Brother, hang in there, we'll talk again.

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