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Speaker 1 (01:02):
Hey, twenty nine fifty five KCD talk station, Bryan Timas,
youre wishing everybody very happy Friday. I hope you had
some plans for the weekend to put a smile on
your face. And let us suggest maybe if you've got
a young person in your home, that maybe they don't
go to college and incurt two hundred thousand dollars in
student loans and come out with a degree in art
or something that there is no employment opportunity there. That's
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a foolish exercise. How about a career opportunity rather than
four years in college. How about earning while you learn,
get a job in the trades, and apparently there are
a lot of jobs out there. Welcome Brian Miller. He
is with the Northern Kentucky or sorry, the Building Industry
Association of Northern Kentucky. You can find him online at
builders NKY dot com. Brian, welcome to the program. Good
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to have you on today.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
More of my friend Howry on this fine Friday.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I'm doing great, and you know I'm a convert for
what you're pushing here, which is a career opportunity in
the trades and the important operative word in that is career.
You can earn a good living in the trades. This
isn't something you know, This isn't like going to work
in the McDonald's. You can actually raise a family and
uh and and and buy a home. Well maybe not
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in this housing market, but you can actually afford to
live and enjoy life while working in the trades.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah. This this housing market is another call in I think.
But as far as the trades go, you know, just
it's it's a it's an outstanding opportunity. Unlike so many
decades before. You know, we're seeing a big shift with
this latest generation generation Z. They're really making a press
into the end of the trades. And and they're really
the hands on generation. And you know when they when
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they when they look at at the trades, they're talking
about things like coming to electrician, plumber and HVAC installer, carpenters, welders, masons,
people that work on facilities. And we're looking at wages
just straight out of the trade school that are really
getting to the level of about you the mid fifties
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all the way up to around ninety thousand dollars. And
if you're talking about taking those skills to the next level.
You know, we can talk about that, but we're really
talking about leveling up in the way of potential income
in a very short amount of time. And so we're
seeing folks that come through the nsy Billion Institute, which
I know that we're here to talk about plus this
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Generation Z trend, but you know, we're seeing folks that
are we just get around the interviews as and videos
of some of our students and graduates. We're seeing twenty
two year olds, twenty three year olds buying their first home,
buying their first vehicles, investing in their future wealth and
going back to what the American dream used to look
like for your fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And you know, and doing rewarding work. Brian, I have.
I am a dabbler, you know, jack of all trades,
master of none. But I owned a really old house
when we lived in Oak Park, Illinois, one hundred and
twenty five year old home, and it needed a lot
of work, and my wife and I at the time
didn't have the resources to hire people out to do
all this work. So I learned back then, you go
to the library and you get a book, you figure
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out how to do you know, a plaster and lathe
work would work. Actually made some of my own furniture,
teaching myself how to do it. But the nice thing
about it, and the only reason I bring that up,
is because when you walk into a room like the
bathroom that I remodeled, I learned how to lay tile,
you walk in, there's a sense of pride. You created
something that is going to be there and outlast you.
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And that's the kind of thing that I've heard from
people in the trades all the time. I hung that
high iron on that skyscraper I helped build, to do
the masonry work on that building. I mean, everywhere you go,
you've got something to show for the work that you've done.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Absolutely. You know, a lot of our instructors are actually
graduated program and they're current trades people, and a lot,
you know, we have information this report were just released
about how they're beginning to age or have been agent
quite some time. And you talk to these folks and
they tell you what the sense of pride and a
little glint of a tier in the corner of their eye,
how they drive pass structures. All the time, I watch
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people going to work, watch families kiss the loved ones,
goodbye as they go to work in the morning or
come home in the afternoon and say, I had a
hand in building that I was in that room. I
made that happen. That kid sits at that desk in
their bedroom. You know I installed that trim carp dere
or that that company that's going in and clocking in
every day. If it worn't for me, that structure wasn't
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going to end up being there. So yeah, they has
a great sense of pride and a great opportunity. And
you know, on top of that, I don't know if
any other industry in this country where company ownership and
company management has got an open gate the way it
does now in the construction industry.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Excellent point. Entrepreneurial opportunities abound. Now you learn your HVAC
trade work and going through the Endswiler Building Institute, you
can earn while you learn. We'll talk about the details
on this. We'll take a break in a second. You
can break it down a little bit more thoroughly, Brian,
But you can quit wherever you are and start your
own business. Once you got the skills that's needed, you
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could become your own employer. And what a great thing
that is. For the entrepreneurally minded kids out there or
folks out there.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, we've got this that they wan't a generation Z.
They are some smart folks. And it's not just the
old trades, you know, just nothing technology laced. The younger
people are really bringing technology on the job site with
them and so this is stuff that AI can't take away.
But you know, we're seeing a lot of gen zs.
They are actually teaming up right out of our school
and they have found out the secret that Hey, if
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I really want to do well in this world, and
I really want to provide for my family and for
myself and my loved ones, I can team up with
a group of other trade professionals. We can build up
a company and to a point where it is a
marketable sale, we can sell it. We can go back
and do that again two or three times. And you're
talking about an open paycheck for what the rest of
the world looks like for you. So, you know, just
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there's just such a lack of these of these of
these of these companies out there, and we you know,
one of the things that's been driving up the price
of homes is lack of homes. But are the causes
of that as we got the lack of builders aren't
just full builders, but we're talking about people that are
in the trades period. So we have minished our supply
of trades people to a point where that demand curve
has gone up so high that the wages are spiking,
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and it's just an amazing opportunity for folks. It just
the last five years and the trades that we teach it.
We'll get into here in a little bit, but we're
looking at somewhere between its sixteen up to around a
twenty seven percent increase in the last five years, and
just these wages alone. So you know, a plumber back
about you know, five years ago, eight years ago that
was making fifty to fifty one thousand dollars, they're getting
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close to seventy thousand dollars now.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Career opportunity.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Pause.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We'll pause, will bring Brian Miller back to talk a
little bit more about the ends while or building institute.
But something I'm more I'm more excited about and really
think is just a really cool thing is the Covington
Academy of Heritage Trades. More with Brian Miller from the
Building Industry of Northern Kentucky again online at builders nky
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dot com. Pause for a moment, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hey forty fifty five KRCD talk station from the Building
Industry Association in Northern Kentucky. Brian Miller talking about jobs
and career opportunities in the trades. Real quick, Brian, before
we dive on into the Enswaller Institute and the other
thing that I'm interested in, the Covington Academy of Heritage Trades.
I just want to let you know one of my
regular listeners, jeff he's in the machine tool business, owns
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his own business, Mark Contool. Shout out to the boys
of Markcontool. Jeffrey says, thanks for plugging the trades again today.
We need all the help we can get. Serious opportunities
are waiting for those that are willing to get their
hands a little dirty. So there's one guy in the
business out there doubling down on what you're saying, Brian.
There are lots of jobs out there, and some really
good paying ones. So let's pivot over. So if you
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go to the builders nkys dot com site, you'll see
a link to the Endswiler Building Institute, So let's start
there and with that program involves and I see you
have opportunities for high school students as well.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, we do, and in Kentucky we've been expanding those.
So the last two years we've had wonderful support by
some legislators in our market, like this last session with
Representative Kim Banta in the session before that with Senator
Shelley Funky Promyer, a wonderful leaders. You know, we've been
able to pass some bills which has been taking this
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dual credit concept that the part of the education has
had for quite some time and shifting it over to
the construction trade. So we are currently working with public
schools and area technology centers and hopes to be able
to solidify curriculum alignment where people that graduate from high
school that are in these vocational programs are able to
achieve dual credit and to our proprietary school, the ins
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our Ability Institute, and you get into the trade and
get into a license trade even that much faster, so
we already accelerate your career advancement as a recognized education
provider with state government and the licensed trades will electric
HVAC and plumbing. But this next step we'll be able
to shave off another year. And what we've also been
able to do is that on the job training hours
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you can now achieve those in high school too, So
quite frankly, by the time that you come to our
program in the license trades, you could be one year
away from your licensure, which means an advancement of about
twenty to thirty thousand dollars in your trades alone. And
on the back end of that, we are going to
start some value added classes because we know because college
isn't right for everybody, but you can still pick up
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the skills that you can learn in college without all
the electives. We will be providing some classes in estimating
and project management. You want to talk about a level up.
We talked about twenty to thirty thousand dollars increase in
these trades just to get your license in those three
trades alone, But if you're looking at becoming an estimator
in the field, electrician can increase their pay by twenty
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to forty percent just by becoming an estimator, and if
you've become a project manager, they can increase their pay
from thirty percent to seventy percent. So we're talking about
coming out with the license and the electric trades just
under sixty thousand dollars. But if you get into project management,
you're talking somewhere between seventy to one hundred and twenty
thousand dollars. If you can run a crew and run
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into our project.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Not too shabby. Wow blows the mind, it really does.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Now, let's use a hypothetical here. Let's say you're you know,
you're in your forties and you're tired of being the
producer for the fifty five carsy morning show. Is it
too late for someone mid career life to maybe turn
to the trades and learn this as a career opportunity
or is it sort of designed to focus mostly on
the on the younger people.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Now? Absolutely not. Our average age of our of our
adult enroll is about twenty four years old, and we're
trying to make that younger. But we do have several
people that are in career transitions, so they, you know,
they've been the workaday world. They're like, I'm burned out
by this. There's a lot of pressures. And then we
see artificial intelligence making its inter roads in the white
collar community folks that are choosing the trades because artificial
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intelligence can't fix your plumbing at two.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
O'clock in the morning, No it can't. They actually did
a South Park episode on that. It's fantastic, all right, Brian,
Let's okay. So that's the ends Wild Billding Institute. All
the information there again at the website builders nky dot com.
Let's pivot over to something that's near and dear in
my heart. This is the Covington Academy of Heritage Trade. Now,
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I mentioned before we had one hundred and twenty five
year old home. But I have always been interested in architecture,
and I have a profound appreciation for the skill and
the and the the just the absolute amazing ability of
old school craftsmen, what they were able to accomplish by
way of woodwork and these historic homes. It's just to me,
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it's awe inspiring. That's as a trade that still exists
through your Comington Academy of Heritage Trades.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Absolutely, this is one of only a handful of opportunities
like this in the entire country. And this is a
wonderful project. It's a partnership, it's a public private partnership
of the City of Covington. We also receive support for
all of our trades, including the main Aswild Building Institute,
the Kenton County government, several other resources, state government support.
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There's a lot of industry professionals that help us out.
But getting into this, coming to thecavity of heritage trades,
the City of Covington engaged a group called Place Economics
and they did a study in northern Kentucky, specifically in
the Covington area, our largest municipality, as to what is
the state of historic architecture in the area, also just
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an inventory of older homes, what condition they're in, what
are the major components in need of work, and so
what we're looking to do as a partnership is to
raise up this aging urban core infrastructure to be able
to provide a quality housing for folks. Now, the study
that was done by Economics also found out that if
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you are a trades person out there, if you work
in the historic trades, you're looking to increase your pay
by about nine percent. So there is a little bit
of a level up there with regards to getting into
this field. Now, it's a different field, right, so it's
not looking at a set of blue prints and building
something from the ground up. You have to be a specialist,
and that's what this Academy is here to teach you
to do, is to break down the barriers from somebody
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that works on the brand new build Greenshield environment to
be able to transition over to the historic environment to
understand it. Okay, if I'm going to get into that wall,
what's behind it? For so ultimately that's really where the
stumbling blocks are. And if we can help take those
blocks out of the wall to transition people over to
the historic trades, it's a profession. That's ultimately what the
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goal of the Academy is. So we can do that,
we can build up the community. We can make sure
that the urban core is just as healthy as a
housing market as the new built suburban environment and serves
because you know, every home is every home matters, and
so yeah, everybody has to have a place in this,
in this, in this, in this, in this world, and
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all markets, especially throughout Greater Cincinnati and of course in
our corner of the world here in Northern Kentucky need
to have a vibrant housing market in every pocket and
in every corner. So that everybody and every income on
strata can have a place to call home.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, and from my perspective, Brian, they don't build them
like they used to, and I mean they built them
in the old days like they over built. I mean
a know, soft two by fours in the walls of
some of these older homes. But the program the coming
to the academy trades. I'm looking at the list box cutters,
historic masonry, historic carpentry work, plaster work which I mentioned before.
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It ain't drywall you're dealing with. It's plaster and lay
than these historic homes. Historic painting work, stained in decorative glass,
historic window restoration, weatherization along with wood floors. So those
are the types of trades you learned old school methods
which keeps the historic quality of the building going. I mean,
then I imagine some of them. You suppose you could
have a historic designated building, you have to comply with
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the original historic designs absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I mean Covenson has several different historic overlay districts which
are all unique to their subcommunities. So like Pieselberg, all
these you know, mainstrews, all these different areas have all
got their own characters years ago. The world was a
lot smaller. We didn't get around that much and so
you really have to learn how to conform to that
historic code either you're in a historic zone or under
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a historic overlay, and you know, just an opportunity for
you to not only you know, become a trade professional
also increase your own home too. It just because it's
called the Company Academy of Peri's Trades and not just
open for the people that are inside the city of Kevington.
We have folks from OTR all over the region that
we love historic homes that are able to come out
and benefit from these courses. So they run basically in
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a series of shops all year long. And if you
want to find more information about that, that standalone website
is Pritage Trade at Academy dot com. And to back up,
that standalone website for the institute is Building Institute dot com.
So we've got some great premier URLs out there that
people can go check out. We've got a lot of
data on there too, and this report we've recently released
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can also show you know, not just that nine percent
uplift with a director working on historic structures, but if
you want to take things to the next level, really
driving your potential earning income will into the six figures.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's just a wonderful thing to hear. No college education,
no leaving with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt
and a class you had to sit through like music
appreciation to get your degree. Brian Miller, keep Joe's trekers.
What was that number again? I told just Trekker. Every
time an opportunity like this comes on, Joe's got one
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foot out the door. Brian, Well, keep up the great work.
I'll encourage my listeners go to my blog page fifty
five KC dot com or they'll be able to hear
this conversation. But also get the links that you mentioned
and pursue a career. And if you're you have a
young person in your world, steer them in this direction.
I think they'll be very happy that they pursued the
trades as opposed to a college education. Brian, keep up
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the great work. You can feel free to join the
Morning Show anytime. If you got some updates or information
on the trades, I'd love to have you back on.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Also, my friend tell Jenn to strap on some steel
tub before he had done over.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I would but he already left the building. Thanks Brian.
Great weekend. It's eight fifty right now, fifty five k
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