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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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I just got done. Tell me my listeners about the
executive order Donald Trump sign yesterday ordering new limitations on
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the well gain of function research that was done at
the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And we all know what
tragedy came from that. I don't understand why that type
of research is done in the first instance, and he
can't stop it from happening. I mean that we no
longer funded well. First off, that we ever funded it
to me is just batcrap and saying no pun intended. Yes,
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that we funded it, notably in China. That's what's insult
to injury on that one. That's well put.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's really amazing that it happened that way, but you
have a group of people that aren't really concerned as
much about the positive possible negative effects as much as
it is this is science, and we're scientists, and we
like doing this because we can. You know, it's almost
kind of godlike, but in a perverse way. Mango Wilike. Yeah,
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it really is. And you know, look, gain of function.
Let's be clear on one thing. If you can do
gain of function research to make an antibiotic more effective
against bacteria or something like that, that's great. But when
you're doing gain of function research to create something that's
more harmful to a human being potentially because it might
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happen in nature, that was the premise twenty ten, twenty
eleven Fauci Collins. You know, they're run the government wing
of our research, and they just think this is the
greatest idea. But even in twenty twelve out she was asked, well,
aren't you concerned about getting out of the lab and
creating a pandemic, and he said, I think the benefits
outweigh the risk.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Kennedy, you secretary.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of Kennedy did a good job in the press conference
yesterday of summing that up, where he said, you know
the premise of this gain of function research, which I've
been talking about since I found out about it when
COVID started, is to be able to predict a virus
that may come about that could affect humans. But guess what,
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will have a vaccine ready because we've created it in
the lab, not out there in nature, not out there
infecting people. But as Kennedy said yesterday, no lab BSL four,
which is the most restrictive, it doesn't matter. No lab
is immune from leaks. And he said that yesterday, and
I think that's an important point to make. So why
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would we do this at all at this point in time. Well,
by the way understanding nature and understanding the anatomy of viruses,
AI can predict it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, fine on all that, And I don't disagree with
you in iota on your point, but I'm sorry, in
a world with scarce resources, in a world with diseases
that run them up killing people cancer, for example, we've
been paying money into funds and organizations and trying to
get funding research to fight cancer for decades and decades
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and decades still with no home run solution, which is
one of the reasons I work for the cures or
do the charitable work for the cure starts now they're
trying to do that. This is putting money into a
man created virus that hasn't happened yet naturally, so that
you can create a vaccine to prevent it or unring
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the bell if it does actually get created in nature
somewhere sometime down the road. So you're trying to to
find a cure for something that doesn't exist when we've
got diseases that exist right now that we have no
cure for. I mean, that's just absolutely stupid. And this
is another thing. They did research to come up with
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nerve gas, mustard gas, things of that. They did chemical research.
They they created weaponized viruses and agents and they tested
them on I know the Nazis test them on human beings,
but of course tested them on animals in the lab.
Why for use for military purposes, so you can kill
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your enemy. See that to me is the sort of
domino following the logical reason why you would be doing
this so you can unleash it on your foe. I mean,
you're doing on this level, this biological level. You can
create a virus that can attack certain DNA type structures
like so if you want to kill all the black people,
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you want to kill all the white people, you want
to kill this certain ethnicity. You got DNA and they
could target it to a particular type of DNA with
this time.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And that was our problem with you know, the things
that were like, oh, find out your ancestry, Well, China's
getting all your DNA information exactly, you know. But yesterday's
press conference was very good. I mean, we're really cleaning
house and having good logical people in place right now
that can make a difference. As Jay Bodachario now, the
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head of NIH that took Francis Collins place, that gain
a function does not protect us, It only endangers us, exactly,
and that is exactly right now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
In February of twenty twenty is when I was doing
research on COVID itself, when everybody was in lockdown, you know,
we came across this article that showed Ralph Berrick in
North Carolina's English and China creating new viruses that showed
that they can work like legos and take this part
of one virus and this part of another back backbone
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put it on there. And then the most dangerous thing
that they were doing, and we were paying for it
is putting fur and cleavage sites on there. The fur
and cleavage site is one of the things that makes
the virus way more infectious to the human respiratory system.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And we were doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And we're in a place now where any of this stuff,
the public, the government, we can say no. The regulatory
reform that was put in place yesterday was music to
my ears and a fight that we were having that
was being ignored by the previous administration, and all of
these details in facts. I was thrilled to see that
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the Trump administration, the White House put out basically our
report that we spent two years working on, backed up
by previous investigations in the previous two and three years.
They put it out said we believe it came from
the lab. The CIA, even under the Biden appointee. Burns
came out at the end and said, looks like a
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lab leak. It's basically for those of us who have
been investigating it and have the intelligence too. Remember our
report is unclassified, but if you look at the intelligence
component two, how can you not say it likely came
from the lab. There's been no evidence of nature. We
got to move on protect ourselves. Do better in the future,
and certainly do whatever we can to make sure that
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we aren't funding our adversary work in this arena.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And we go back to the point you we aren't
funding it now, as reprehensible as it is that we
actually funded in the first instance. Acknowledging all the points
you just made and the realities we experienced with their
GAINA function research with the leak, we can't stop this
research from being done in other countries that we are
no longer funding, it doesn't mean it's not still going on.
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Much like the Mustard gas point I made earlier militarization weaponization,
that that might be that work might be ongoing elsewhere.
I mean, Iran could have a lab doing this type
of research right now. We don't know that, and if
we did know about it, we couldn't stop it from happening.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, interesting that in their regulations or the executive order,
I should say, they put out President Trump specifically named
China and and Iran. You know, COVID was preventable, and
I was glad to hear. My friend Marty McCarey, who
I worked with closely through the whole COVID investigation, even
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before the committee was formed. You know, he summed it
up yesterday said COVID was preventable, and it was created
by technology exported from the United States to Wuhan. Unbelievable.
Our technology given to China for the purposes of altering
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this to make it more infectious for human beings with
no oversight. And that's the other thing that's in the
executive Order is if we're doing anything in a foreign lab,
especially that of an adversary, we're going to have tremendous oversight.
You know, if you're if we're going to do research
on a new type of bone graph for severe fred
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something with an adversary, Hell Nation, that's fine, but let's
have oversight over that too.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
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who again is going to empower you some of our
tomorrow night beginning at seven pm on what are the
lessons learned from the pandemic? And Brad yesterday you were
very happy to see one other component. Not only will
we not be funding gain a function research out there
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in the world, but we learned something from the pandemic.
I think we learned a lot of lessons from the pandemic.
Met a whole lot. I mean, there was some good
that came out of it, like telehealth, for example. I
love the idea of being able to get your doctor
on the horn and you know, do just a talk
to him or a zoom conference type of thing. You
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don't have to drive in getting your appointment and drive
in to see him. You know, they made life a
little bit easier. But something that we learn and it's
a hard lesson to have to deal with that we
don't make anything anymore. And I know that's a broad
brush stroke. We still make some stuff, but we don't
make the vast majority of our pharmaceuticals come from China.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Referred all that out over the years, and we got
rid of our generic manufacturing plants. I know that Mark
Cuban's going to try and reinstitute one in Texas. And
there is another one that came forth during the first
Trump administration recognizing this problem. And even in the executive
order yesterday, President Trump talked about how they recognized the
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problem we have, the national security risk, the.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Health wish to a secure Aerica.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
There was a book written called China RX, and if
you really want to get scared about it, go ahead
and read that you know about twenty years ago, fifteen
twenty years ago, there was a situation where we had
tainted hepron that came from China. Oh yeah, at about
two hundred and fifty people died and so the people
was sitting out in the sun. And yeah, the opportunity
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for sabotage, et cetera is huge anytime China decides to
do it. I mean, the FDA, especially during COVID, is
not over in China inspecting their labs to make sure
that they're doing everything right. That's one of the things
that Marty McCarey brought up yesterday that the FDA. You know,
they do surprise visits in the United States, right, they
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just show up and say, we're going to make sure
you're doing everything right inside of your lab. But what
they're going to start doing is surprise visits in China.
Those have been scheduled. You know, it could be a
dog and pony show. You know, it's the same thing
for hospitals. We always knew when when the hospitals were
being inspected where the Joint Commission was coming in. Well,
now it's surprise visits, so you better be ready all
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the time.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And that's how it should be ending like drug testing
for employment by any reasons. You know, they never tell
you in advance when they're going to do it. So
you got to sit on the edge of your seat. Well,
and for good reason, right right, right, Well, we're going
to test your blog. You're you're in the fifteenth of
next month. Thanks appreciate your heads up.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So anyway, we got to get onto the path of
US production, and we got to be smart about it.
If you'd have told me when I was in Iraq
that my protective equipment as a surgeon and my pharmaceuticals
relied on China, I'd say, how did we get here?
And I had a bill during the last term that
unfortunately never really moved, but said let's at least make
our battlefield medicines one hundred percent domestic. Maybe maybe the
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other side of the aisle would pay attention to that,
because otherwise it was just being ignored the fact that
we have this problem. I would tell you the military,
who I'm surprised to ever let this happen. I was
working when I was still in uniform with the Defense
Logistics Medical Supply Chain Council, recognizing the drugs we need,
where we get them all the way down to the
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active pharmaceutical ingredients, and that was being controlled by China.
And so that's a problem that we have. But even
the things that we make. I'm Puerto Rico, for example,
large on medical supplies, et cetera. Sailing they had, yeah,
two hurricanes, got no, we couldn't get saline. And so
those are the things we have to recognize, not only
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make them domestically, but have them made in more than
one place within our own confines, or at the very
least work with the trusted allies on these types of things,
minerals that we may need. You know, we have the
same situation with batteries.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh you know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know I could never promote, for example, putting getting
using federal grants to put power charging stations.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I had one community said, we need charging stations so
tourists coming through here can charge their cars. I said,
these are people whose ability to transport themselves relies on China,
whether they like it or not, because that battery is
made by Chinese or the components. Now we're going to
assemble batteries here. That's that's different. I'm move in the
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right direction, but it's not the same same with the
same with the generic medications. So this order puts us
on the line to domestic production of critical medicines, something
I've been promoting for some time, and it's great to
have some common sense people in the administration that are
pushing towards making these things happen. In a lot of
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these cases, Congress has to cooperate, and Congress has to
make these things possible too, if nothing else, you know,
if something was just an executive order or regulation, it seems.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That the.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Same entity or agency that's now under the guidance of
the Trump administration can make these changes in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, I guess boiled down, the reason all of this
ended up in China is simply a question of production cost. Yes,
that's the only reason. Yes, we don't lack the specific
components that go into any given pharmaceutical. We just don't
want to manufacture here because it's more expensive.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
There's so many dangers out there. I mean, I can
remember when I was a resident in Chicago, there was
a Walgreens up the street from me that was selling
tile and all okay, they came for the manufacturer, but
was laced with cyanide, and people were dying. Oh I
remember that. Yeah, do you remember that? You might have
still been in Chicago at the time about all of
the changes to packaging and lid's. You know, everything's got
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Seven thirty here for the five kir CV talk station.
Happy Tuesday. Former Congressman Brad Winster. It's still doctor Bradwinster
in studio going through the issues with the Congressman. He's
gonna be doing an empower you seminar tomorrow night about
the what we learned from the pandemic, So hearing what
he has to say. He was chairman of the Select
Subcommitee on coronavirus pandemic, so he has been up and
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down the road with all the documents and information. So
since we dealt with that topic, let's move on to
well help out student loans. Taking a move away from
things medical. Donald Trump's put his foot down and says, no,
you're gonna have to pay your loan off. And I
have no fault, no problem with that. I mean, I'm
sorry that you got a degree in college that didn't
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provide you a vehicle for employment. You know, you make
informed the choices when you're going to college and you're
taking your getting you know, one hundred thousand dollars maybe
or more in debt for a I don't know, community
service degree or something like that. There's just a if
the degree in providetity value. I think this just stream
of thought here, stream of consciousness here. You know, I
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think colleges should have a fiduciary obligation when someone gets
admitted to school for any given degree, to sit them
down and talk about the employment opportunities that may or
may not be available to them when they get their
art degree. You know, yep, I mean, I'm sorry. There
are only like two job openings at Southabes every year
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and that's about all you're going to be able to
get with an art degree. Well, you know, for the
last fifty or sixty years. I'd say.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Not so much in the in the Trump era for sure,
but before that, we really as a nation, we're saying
in essence subtly that if you don't get a college degree,
that's somehow you've failed. Well, that's not the American dream.
The American dream is being able to put a roof
over your head and being able to pay for that
room and to feed your family. But here's the interesting thing.
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The Bureau of Labor Statistics. I recently found that the
unemployment rate for recent associate degree community college hilarious and
vocational in their twenties was two point one percent, So
they were being employed, compared to fifteen point three for
four year college grads and eight point four percent for
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advanced degree recipients.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Mean that's the unemployment rate. Yes, so, But you know,
I find it interesting because you and I had the
same statistics. I saw the Wall Street Journals into the
Free College launch op ed piece was brought those statistics up,
and I thought to myself, Oh, you got it as well. Unemployment, Now,
that doesn't speak to what area of employment these degreed
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folks are working in. You could have a master's degree
in naval contemplation and you're working as a barista at Starbucks.
You are employed or open or uber? Yeah, I mean,
I mean again, I would love to see the boil down, like, Okay,
does employment mean in the field of study you engaged in.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
While at college? I would love to see that figure.
And I have nothing against those jobs you mentioned. No, no, no,
you don't need that expensive degree to be able to degree.
And I always said this too. When I'm talking to
college presidents. They wanted to tell me how many people
graduated each year. They have a really high graduation rate.
I said, tell me what they're doing five years from now,
and I will say at some of the colleges they're
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starting to do that. It's easier to track people when
they leave college. Now you know they still have the
same phone number. All of these so many things say
the same. You have this contact with them, so keep
in touch, find out what they're doing five years later
while you're.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Asking them for a financial contribution. Also ask if they're employees.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And then you can really determine what success looks like, Brian,
because success means this degree led to you being successful
and independent right in life. I'm not on the government
for your existence.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well, and the graduation rate seems to me to be
a nonsensical measure of anything, because we all know that
they engage in grade inflation. I mean, one of the
reasons that the Trump administration is telling Harvard to go
you know, pound sand in terms of grants. They actually
have a remedial math program at Harvard. They let someone
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in yes, who needs remedial math. So you've lowered standards.
We know grade inflation happens in K through twelve. You
go ahead and pass someone on into the next grade
when they can't even meet the standards for that particular
grade during the student no service whatsoever. But they'll also
admit people who are incapable of working at college levels.
What do they do? They lower college level standards down
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to something less than they're teaching basically at high school. Well,
it's it's in med school and everything else that's scary.
And speaking of in.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Med school with loans, I can remember when I I
was in school having to sit down with people that
went over the loans that were available and the risk
that you're taking. There was a Health Education Assistance loan
that following Jimmy Carter was at seventeen percent. Yet they're
going to throw you twenty thousand dollars or so. And
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I saw students going out by a new cars where
I'm drying and my Grandpa's old Pinto. You know, they
were crazy. I didn't take a heel loan until my
senior year, and I paid that one off first right
because of the high interest that was on it. But
we were educated in that and.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
This school what you were getting in.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and the school took some responsibility of saying, we
don't want you to go out there and be bankrupt,
you know, in two years, because when you go out
and you first get in practice, you know, you're building
a practice, and so you're not going to have this
huge revenue day one, so to be able to pay
these things off. It was a responsibility that seemed to
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be there, but it's not there across the board. That
should be taking place everywhere with the school. And here's
the thing. If a particular school has a large number
of students not able to pay off their student.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Loans, that's indicative of it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Let's put some responsibility on the college. And that's what
the Trump administration is trying to.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Do, right, And that's that illustrates perfectly what you're talking
about earlier, which is does that degree provide you with
a source of revenue.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I've always said, you know what, I have nothing against
a four year degree. I have three of them. I
believe you might have two, two or three college and
law school, yeah combined. I have nothing against those higher degrees.
But at the same time, for example, as a surgeon.
There's a lot I can do in the operating room.
I can't build that operating room. No, you can can't
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fix that equipment.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Amen. I make that point about elected officials. We elect
them to make decisions over matters that they have no comprehension, right,
you know they think Guam's going to capsize. Representative of
said Guama's gonna tip over. I mean we elected that guy.
You think he has any idea how to science industry,
I mean any of that. He's got no clue, so
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Fift about KRC detalk station Brian Thomas with Brad Winster,
doctor Brad Winster, former Congressman. You know that, talk him
through the issues, and let's move over to Medicaid reform.
Everybody's out there whaling in nash teeth. Donald Trump's gonna
take away Medicaid. Donald Trump's gonna take away Medicaid. No
he's not. We're gonna try to reform it. If you're
able bodied and capable of working, you should at least
be forced to try to work or get some job
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skills which will be happy to pay for, but you
can't take medicaid. Brad.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, well it's been interesting too and seeing the results
of expanding Medicaid. Look, I am all favor in favor
of a country that has safety nets for those in need.
But as it's been said before, it shouldn't be a hammock.
It should be a safety net right, and we want
to provide for people on their path to independence. Financial independence.
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Everything else should be designed to be a temporary bridge, yes,
if at all possible. Now there's some I know with disabilities, etc.
That it's not going to be and I get that,
and we want to be able to provide. But there's
strong evidence that has been shown that there's a shift
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of financial resources with the expansion away from taking care
of the most vulnerable, and that's the narrative that we
need to be talking about. We want to reform it
so that we can do things like preventive medicine and
medicaid and do things that really help the most vulnerable,
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help pregnant women, especially if you're in poverty and you're pregnant,
you may be undernourished, all of these types of things
are you're getting your perinatal care, all these things to
then produce another healthy American exactly. Those areas rather than
covering down for people that could be working that aren't working.
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The expansion has been disastrous for many and it's time
to take a common sense approach to helping people all
in all, consistent with what we have just said in
the Doctor's Caucus.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
We want to be the healthiest nation on the planet.
I credit.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Director Kennedy Secretary Kennedy for saying make America healthy again.
You know, let's be the healthiest nation on the planet.
And yesterday he addressed reforming snap as well.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We don't pay for SODA's, soft drinks, sugary beverages like that,
among other things. We we actually pay for people to
just pollute their bodies and and and move them closer
to diabetes and obesity. And fraud is a problem too.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You you mentioned off air you can't buy cigarettes, and
but what you can do is I sell your snap
card for cash so that you can then go out
and pay for those.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I used to watch that when I worked in Finley
Market back in the eighties, Harry's Meats and Seafood. Shout
out to the Geiger brothers if they're out there, and
the guys that used to work there. But that was
the first time I encountered food stamps. I grew up
in a nice neighborhood and people were not relying upon
public's assistance. And I'm not dissing the concept, but they
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would swap them outside the store. People would hand over
food stamps your five dollars increments or ten dollars stamps
or one dollar stamps in return for cash exactly cash,
you get discounts. So five dollars in food stamps maybe
net you two or three dollars, but you could take
the two or three dollars and go down to buy smokes.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So the person using the card should have to identify themselves.
It seems to me just just the same as amming
to identify yourself when you're buying alcohol, the same as
you have to identify yourself for so many things. It's
only fair. Look, it's it's we are a giving nation.
I get that, but we shouldn't be doing more harm.
(32:56):
What's well the idea is a doctor do no harm,
do no harm.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And who say no, no, no. People have a choice
with you. You're just being you know, you can't to
deny them the opportunity of choice with what we give
them by way of public assistance. Like wait a second,
that would be encouraging harm. You know, if you allow
a snap card to be used to purchase literally pollutants,
unhealthy products to put in your body, then that's a
(33:20):
government who enables you know, poisoning. Well, I mean I
hate to be so harsh with my conclusions on that,
but that, to me, that's what sodas are nothing. But
you know, sugar injected in your system, which has no
nutritional benefit whatsoever. Why make that an option?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And you know what the argument has been that I've
heard it. I heard it in Washington. Well, Brad, rich
people get to buy at bad foods, why shouldn't everyone.
The point is, you know what, there's there's a lot
of people with money that end up doing more to
protect themselves, to keep themselves healthy. Yes, they can buy
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those things, and yes many of them do, but they
also pay for but they shouldn't. But they also pay
for their own healthcare.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, that valid point. But that's not an argument
that these because rich people can buy them, that they
even should buy them in the first place. We discourage
it across across the board that they want to make
stupid choices. They're entitled to make stupid choices too, they
shouldn't be able to do it on the back of
the taxpayer. Will continue one more segment with Brad Winnstrip
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Coming up on seven fifty one fifty five KR See
the talk station. Brian Thomas Swift, doctor Brad when Srip
former Congressman going through the issues and Catholic he is.
I mentioned Gataheaven Cemetery. He's got a couple of plots
there for him and his wife. Congress or former Congressman
Winstrip a comment or two about the pope. We're gonna
get a more conservative pope this time because I have
many I grew up in an all Catholic neighborhood except
(36:40):
for me, basically got lots and lots and lots of
Catholic friends. Many of my listening audience are Catholics, and
I have not run into a single one that had
well appreciated or liked the direction that the deceased pope.
The recently deceased Pope took the messaging very left wing,
very liberally. He's sounded like a socialists, which rubbed a
(37:01):
lot of people the wrong way. Do you think there'll
be a more conservative pope this time?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I have a feeling that that's going to be the
trend because there was a lot of controversy around this
pope who had good intentions, but he's human like any
other pope, and so it should be an interesting go
round this time.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
You know, those of us our.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Age, Brian, we have vivid memories of John Paul the Second,
Oh sure, and that was an entirely different time and
and a different pope, pope, and different approach from this pope.
You know, he was he was dealing with issues of
evil in the world, Communism, you know, from his home
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country of Poland. It was it was inflicted upon them,
and he would work with Ronald Reagan. I mean, two
of my heroes in my lifetime, two of my inspirations
for my Catholicism and for my patriotism as an American right.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And so it was a different time.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
But I think it's time we take could closer look
at what really matters. And so it's one thing has
always bothered me when I would hear things from the pulpit, Well,
let's pray for our leadership and for our members of
Congress and this not to be more compassionate. It's really
up to us, Brian, It's up to us as individuals.
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I have high respect for Cardinal Dolan out of New York.
I don't know that he would get it. Politically, I
don't think the world's ready maybe for an American pope,
and maybe they should be at this place in time.
But I think that Dolan said he's searching for the
energy of John Paul the Second, the intellect of Benedict,
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and the heart of Francis, And I don't disagree with
all that. I think Francis Poe. Francis had a big heart,
but he was more you know, he was brought up
in more of a socialist regime, and he was known.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
To walk away from the fundamental doctrinal, dogmatic prince of
the Catholic Church in order to accommodate modern times. I mean,
that's not the role of the pope. I thought the
role of the pope was to uphold the church ideals
in doctrinal dogmatic principles exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
You know, for me as a Catholic, I don't want
a church that accommodates my sins, right. I want a
church that forgives my sins right, but don't accommodate them.
You know, you can love the sinner but hate the sin.
All of those things are how I was brought up.
And so some of the things that may be controversial
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to many, that doesn't mean you can't still love the
person that may be part of that controversy. And just
just looking at marriage and the Catholic Church, we call
it matrimony, which the origin of that word is the
making of a mother.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Which limits it to men and women getting married. I
understand your point on that. I'm not a Catholic, so
I don't struggle with doctrinal dogmatic issues. You sure do
know a lot of of them, and I know that well.
I told you, man, and I know you want to
a word or two about the what I believe prosecutors
are referring to as the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson
(40:11):
is such as shuts of tragedy that he was intentionally
hit and run by a car following the shooting of
the younger Hint and Rodney Hinton Junior has been charged
with his murder. I know you wanted to comment on that.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, I mean, I'm really taken by this in many
ways as you might imagine. You know, I've been a
strong protector of law enforcements as you have, and you
know we endured the loud cries of the defund the police.
And although I do think it's still out there. It
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has died down quite a bit, and some people politically
have changed their mind on that. From the other side,
I think one of the things that really has me
upset in a lot of ways is the reaction that
his taken place. There's a go Fundme page.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, I saw. The Sheriff's department was seeking to get
that removed because that violates Go Fundmes rules. You can't
create a funding page for people who've been charged with
heinous crimes. So I hope that's the case. Well, no
one had given any money to at least as of
the last time.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
There wasn't much I saw, like five thousand dollars or
something that's dollars. But the reaction to defend thieves and
murders as victims to me as appalling. But that's very
deep rooted and misdirected, and I think it has a
lot to do with what was put in people's minds,
whether through social media or whatever, to turn everyone into
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too a victim. I'm very saddened by this, but you know,
we were just talking about the pope. I think for
the family, I'm extremely sorry and I hope to reach
out to them and hope that they can understand that
there's a lot of support for them in their grief
without question. And you know, I like a lot of times,
(42:01):
I'm only comforted by the promise of heaven and that
gets me through a lot of.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Things, you know, and that really does work for so
many people. You know, you get the looking forward to
the peace of God. Brad Weinster, I love you, brother,
It's great to see you. Thanks for coming in and
making the trip. It's been great to walk through the
issues with you, which we had more time, but got
to take a break. Right now, do top of our
news and then we'll get the inside scoop of Breitbart
News editor in chief Alex Marlowe. Remember Brad's doing a
(42:30):
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all the details. What are the lessons learned from the pandemic.
Thanks for your time, Brad, It's been great. Thank you.
Stick around me right back. Confused happens fast, stay up
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I just got done. Tell me my listeners about the
executive order Donald Trump sign yesterday ordering new limitations on
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the well gain of function research that was done at
the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And we all know what
tragedy came from that. I don't understand why that type
of research is done in the first instance, and he
can't stop it from happening. I mean that we no
longer funded well. First off, that we ever funded it
to me is just batcrap and saying no pun intended. Yes,
(02:01):
that we funded it, notably in China. That's what's insult
to injury on that one. That's well put.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's really amazing that it happened that way, but you
have a group of people that aren't really concerned as
much about the positive possible negative effects as much as
it is this is science, and we're scientists, and we
like doing this because we can. You know, it's almost
kind of godlike, but in a perverse way. Mango Wilike. Yeah,
(02:30):
it really is. And you know, look, gain of function.
Let's be clear on one thing. If you can do
gain of function research to make an antibiotic more effective
against bacteria or something like that, that's great. But when
you're doing gain of function research to create something that's
more harmful to a human being potentially because it might
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happen in nature, that was the premise twenty ten, twenty
eleven Fauci Collins. You know, they're run the government wing
of our research, and they just think this is the
greatest idea. But even in twenty twelve out she was asked, well,
aren't you concerned about getting out of the lab and
creating a pandemic, and he said, I think the benefits
outweigh the risk.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Kennedy, you secretary.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of Kennedy did a good job in the press conference
yesterday of summing that up, where he said, you know
the premise of this gain of function research, which I've
been talking about since I found out about it when
COVID started, is to be able to predict a virus
that may come about that could affect humans. But guess what,
(03:35):
will have a vaccine ready because we've created it in
the lab, not out there in nature, not out there
infecting people. But as Kennedy said yesterday, no lab BSL four,
which is the most restrictive, it doesn't matter. No lab
is immune from leaks. And he said that yesterday, and
I think that's an important point to make. So why
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would we do this at all at this point in time. Well,
by the way understanding nature and understanding the anatomy of viruses,
AI can predict it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, fine on all that, And I don't disagree with
you in iota on your point, but I'm sorry, in
a world with scarce resources, in a world with diseases
that run them up killing people cancer, for example, we've
been paying money into funds and organizations and trying to
get funding research to fight cancer for decades and decades
(04:27):
and decades still with no home run solution, which is
one of the reasons I work for the cures or
do the charitable work for the cure starts now they're
trying to do that. This is putting money into a
man created virus that hasn't happened yet naturally, so that
you can create a vaccine to prevent it or unring
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the bell if it does actually get created in nature
somewhere sometime down the road. So you're trying to to
find a cure for something that doesn't exist when we've
got diseases that exist right now that we have no
cure for. I mean, that's just absolutely stupid. And this
is another thing. They did research to come up with
(05:13):
nerve gas, mustard gas, things of that. They did chemical research.
They they created weaponized viruses and agents and they tested
them on I know the Nazis test them on human beings,
but of course tested them on animals in the lab.
Why for use for military purposes, so you can kill
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your enemy. See that to me is the sort of
domino following the logical reason why you would be doing
this so you can unleash it on your foe. I mean,
you're doing on this level, this biological level. You can
create a virus that can attack certain DNA type structures
like so if you want to kill all the black people,
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you want to kill all the white people, you want
to kill this certain ethnicity. You got DNA and they
could target it to a particular type of DNA with
this time.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And that was our problem with you know, the things
that were like, oh, find out your ancestry, Well, China's
getting all your DNA information exactly, you know. But yesterday's
press conference was very good. I mean, we're really cleaning
house and having good logical people in place right now
that can make a difference. As Jay Bodachario now, the
(06:23):
head of NIH that took Francis Collins place, that gain
a function does not protect us, It only endangers us, exactly,
and that is exactly right now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
In February of twenty twenty is when I was doing
research on COVID itself, when everybody was in lockdown, you know,
we came across this article that showed Ralph Berrick in
North Carolina's English and China creating new viruses that showed
that they can work like legos and take this part
of one virus and this part of another back backbone
(06:56):
put it on there. And then the most dangerous thing
that they were doing, and we were paying for it
is putting fur and cleavage sites on there. The fur
and cleavage site is one of the things that makes
the virus way more infectious to the human respiratory system.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And we were doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And we're in a place now where any of this stuff,
the public, the government, we can say no. The regulatory
reform that was put in place yesterday was music to
my ears and a fight that we were having that
was being ignored by the previous administration, and all of
these details in facts. I was thrilled to see that
(07:32):
the Trump administration, the White House put out basically our
report that we spent two years working on, backed up
by previous investigations in the previous two and three years.
They put it out said we believe it came from
the lab. The CIA, even under the Biden appointee. Burns
came out at the end and said, looks like a
(07:54):
lab leak. It's basically for those of us who have
been investigating it and have the intelligence too. Remember our
report is unclassified, but if you look at the intelligence
component two, how can you not say it likely came
from the lab. There's been no evidence of nature. We
got to move on protect ourselves. Do better in the future,
and certainly do whatever we can to make sure that
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we aren't funding our adversary work in this arena.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And we go back to the point you we aren't
funding it now, as reprehensible as it is that we
actually funded in the first instance. Acknowledging all the points
you just made and the realities we experienced with their
GAINA function research with the leak, we can't stop this
research from being done in other countries that we are
no longer funding, it doesn't mean it's not still going on.
(08:40):
Much like the Mustard gas point I made earlier militarization weaponization,
that that might be that work might be ongoing elsewhere.
I mean, Iran could have a lab doing this type
of research right now. We don't know that, and if
we did know about it, we couldn't stop it from happening.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, interesting that in their regulations or the executive order,
I should say, they put out President Trump specifically named
China and and Iran. You know, COVID was preventable, and
I was glad to hear. My friend Marty McCarey, who
I worked with closely through the whole COVID investigation, even
(09:17):
before the committee was formed. You know, he summed it
up yesterday said COVID was preventable, and it was created
by technology exported from the United States to Wuhan. Unbelievable.
Our technology given to China for the purposes of altering
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this to make it more infectious for human beings with
no oversight. And that's the other thing that's in the
executive Order is if we're doing anything in a foreign lab,
especially that of an adversary, we're going to have tremendous oversight.
You know, if you're if we're going to do research
on a new type of bone graph for severe fred
(10:00):
something with an adversary, Hell Nation, that's fine, but let's
have oversight over that too.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
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who again is going to empower you some of our
tomorrow night beginning at seven pm on what are the
lessons learned from the pandemic? And Brad yesterday you were
very happy to see one other component. Not only will
we not be funding gain a function research out there
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in the world, but we learned something from the pandemic.
I think we learned a lot of lessons from the pandemic.
Met a whole lot. I mean, there was some good
that came out of it, like telehealth, for example. I
love the idea of being able to get your doctor
on the horn and you know, do just a talk
to him or a zoom conference type of thing. You
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don't have to drive in getting your appointment and drive
in to see him. You know, they made life a
little bit easier. But something that we learn and it's
a hard lesson to have to deal with that we
don't make anything anymore. And I know that's a broad
brush stroke. We still make some stuff, but we don't
make the vast majority of our pharmaceuticals come from China.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Referred all that out over the years, and we got
rid of our generic manufacturing plants. I know that Mark
Cuban's going to try and reinstitute one in Texas. And
there is another one that came forth during the first
Trump administration recognizing this problem. And even in the executive
order yesterday, President Trump talked about how they recognized the
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problem we have, the national security risk, the.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Health wish to a secure Aerica.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
There was a book written called China RX, and if
you really want to get scared about it, go ahead
and read that you know about twenty years ago, fifteen
twenty years ago, there was a situation where we had
tainted hepron that came from China. Oh yeah, at about
two hundred and fifty people died and so the people
was sitting out in the sun. And yeah, the opportunity
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for sabotage, et cetera is huge anytime China decides to
do it. I mean, the FDA, especially during COVID, is
not over in China inspecting their labs to make sure
that they're doing everything right. That's one of the things
that Marty McCarey brought up yesterday that the FDA. You know,
they do surprise visits in the United States, right, they
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just show up and say, we're going to make sure
you're doing everything right inside of your lab. But what
they're going to start doing is surprise visits in China.
Those have been scheduled. You know, it could be a
dog and pony show. You know, it's the same thing
for hospitals. We always knew when when the hospitals were
being inspected where the Joint Commission was coming in. Well,
now it's surprise visits, so you better be ready all
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the time.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And that's how it should be ending like drug testing
for employment by any reasons. You know, they never tell
you in advance when they're going to do it. So
you got to sit on the edge of your seat. Well,
and for good reason, right right, right, Well, we're going
to test your blog. You're you're in the fifteenth of
next month. Thanks appreciate your heads up.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So anyway, we got to get onto the path of
US production, and we got to be smart about it.
If you'd have told me when I was in Iraq
that my protective equipment as a surgeon and my pharmaceuticals
relied on China, I'd say, how did we get here?
And I had a bill during the last term that
unfortunately never really moved, but said let's at least make
our battlefield medicines one hundred percent domestic. Maybe maybe the
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other side of the aisle would pay attention to that,
because otherwise it was just being ignored the fact that
we have this problem. I would tell you the military,
who I'm surprised to ever let this happen. I was
working when I was still in uniform with the Defense
Logistics Medical Supply Chain Council, recognizing the drugs we need,
where we get them all the way down to the
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active pharmaceutical ingredients, and that was being controlled by China.
And so that's a problem that we have. But even
the things that we make. I'm Puerto Rico, for example,
large on medical supplies, et cetera. Sailing they had, yeah,
two hurricanes, got no, we couldn't get saline. And so
those are the things we have to recognize, not only
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make them domestically, but have them made in more than
one place within our own confines, or at the very
least work with the trusted allies on these types of things,
minerals that we may need. You know, we have the
same situation with batteries.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh you know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know I could never promote, for example, putting getting
using federal grants to put power charging stations.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I had one community said, we need charging stations so
tourists coming through here can charge their cars. I said,
these are people whose ability to transport themselves relies on China,
whether they like it or not, because that battery is
made by Chinese or the components. Now we're going to
assemble batteries here. That's that's different. I'm move in the
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right direction, but it's not the same same with the
same with the generic medications. So this order puts us
on the line to domestic production of critical medicines, something
I've been promoting for some time, and it's great to
have some common sense people in the administration that are
pushing towards making these things happen. In a lot of
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these cases, Congress has to cooperate, and Congress has to
make these things possible too, if nothing else, you know,
if something was just an executive order or regulation, it seems.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That the.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Same entity or agency that's now under the guidance of
the Trump administration can make these changes in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, I guess boiled down, the reason all of this
ended up in China is simply a question of production cost. Yes,
that's the only reason. Yes, we don't lack the specific
components that go into any given pharmaceutical. We just don't
want to manufacture here because it's more expensive.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
There's so many dangers out there. I mean, I can
remember when I was a resident in Chicago, there was
a Walgreens up the street from me that was selling
tile and all okay, they came for the manufacturer, but
was laced with cyanide, and people were dying. Oh I
remember that. Yeah, do you remember that? You might have
still been in Chicago at the time about all of
the changes to packaging and lid's. You know, everything's got
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to cover on.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It is sealed with the plastics, so you know if
it's been opened or not exactly. We'll continue with Citizen
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
Seven thirty here for the five kir CV talk station.
Happy Tuesday. Former Congressman Brad Winster. It's still doctor Bradwinster
in studio going through the issues with the Congressman. He's
gonna be doing an empower you seminar tomorrow night about
the what we learned from the pandemic, So hearing what
he has to say. He was chairman of the Select
Subcommitee on coronavirus pandemic, so he has been up and
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down the road with all the documents and information. So
since we dealt with that topic, let's move on to
well help out student loans. Taking a move away from
things medical. Donald Trump's put his foot down and says, no,
you're gonna have to pay your loan off. And I
have no fault, no problem with that. I mean, I'm
sorry that you got a degree in college that didn't
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provide you a vehicle for employment. You know, you make
informed the choices when you're going to college and you're
taking your getting you know, one hundred thousand dollars maybe
or more in debt for a I don't know, community
service degree or something like that. There's just a if
the degree in providetity value. I think this just stream
of thought here, stream of consciousness here. You know, I
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think colleges should have a fiduciary obligation when someone gets
admitted to school for any given degree, to sit them
down and talk about the employment opportunities that may or
may not be available to them when they get their
art degree. You know, yep, I mean, I'm sorry. There
are only like two job openings at Southabes every year
(21:33):
and that's about all you're going to be able to
get with an art degree. Well, you know, for the
last fifty or sixty years. I'd say.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Not so much in the in the Trump era for sure,
but before that, we really as a nation, we're saying
in essence subtly that if you don't get a college degree,
that's somehow you've failed. Well, that's not the American dream.
The American dream is being able to put a roof
over your head and being able to pay for that
room and to feed your family. But here's the interesting thing.
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The Bureau of Labor Statistics. I recently found that the
unemployment rate for recent associate degree community college hilarious and
vocational in their twenties was two point one percent, So
they were being employed, compared to fifteen point three for
four year college grads and eight point four percent for
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advanced degree recipients.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Mean that's the unemployment rate. Yes, so, But you know,
I find it interesting because you and I had the
same statistics. I saw the Wall Street Journals into the
Free College launch op ed piece was brought those statistics up,
and I thought to myself, Oh, you got it as well. Unemployment, Now,
that doesn't speak to what area of employment these degreed
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folks are working in. You could have a master's degree
in naval contemplation and you're working as a barista at Starbucks.
You are employed or open or uber? Yeah, I mean,
I mean again, I would love to see the boil down, like, Okay,
does employment mean in the field of study you engaged in.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
While at college? I would love to see that figure.
And I have nothing against those jobs you mentioned. No, no, no,
you don't need that expensive degree to be able to degree.
And I always said this too. When I'm talking to
college presidents. They wanted to tell me how many people
graduated each year. They have a really high graduation rate.
I said, tell me what they're doing five years from now,
and I will say at some of the colleges they're
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starting to do that. It's easier to track people when
they leave college. Now you know they still have the
same phone number. All of these so many things say
the same. You have this contact with them, so keep
in touch, find out what they're doing five years later
while you're.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Asking them for a financial contribution. Also ask if they're employees.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And then you can really determine what success looks like, Brian,
because success means this degree led to you being successful
and independent right in life. I'm not on the government
for your existence.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well, and the graduation rate seems to me to be
a nonsensical measure of anything, because we all know that
they engage in grade inflation. I mean, one of the
reasons that the Trump administration is telling Harvard to go
you know, pound sand in terms of grants. They actually
have a remedial math program at Harvard. They let someone
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in yes, who needs remedial math. So you've lowered standards.
We know grade inflation happens in K through twelve. You
go ahead and pass someone on into the next grade
when they can't even meet the standards for that particular
grade during the student no service whatsoever. But they'll also
admit people who are incapable of working at college levels.
What do they do? They lower college level standards down
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to something less than they're teaching basically at high school. Well,
it's it's in med school and everything else that's scary.
And speaking of in.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Med school with loans, I can remember when I I
was in school having to sit down with people that
went over the loans that were available and the risk
that you're taking. There was a Health Education Assistance loan
that following Jimmy Carter was at seventeen percent. Yet they're
going to throw you twenty thousand dollars or so. And
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I saw students going out by a new cars where
I'm drying and my Grandpa's old Pinto. You know, they
were crazy. I didn't take a heel loan until my
senior year, and I paid that one off first right
because of the high interest that was on it. But
we were educated in that and.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
This school what you were getting in.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and the school took some responsibility of saying, we
don't want you to go out there and be bankrupt,
you know, in two years, because when you go out
and you first get in practice, you know, you're building
a practice, and so you're not going to have this
huge revenue day one, so to be able to pay
these things off. It was a responsibility that seemed to
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be there, but it's not there across the board. That
should be taking place everywhere with the school. And here's
the thing. If a particular school has a large number
of students not able to pay off their student.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Loans, that's indicative of it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Let's put some responsibility on the college. And that's what
the Trump administration is trying to.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Do, right, And that's that illustrates perfectly what you're talking
about earlier, which is does that degree provide you with
a source of revenue.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I've always said, you know what, I have nothing against
a four year degree. I have three of them. I
believe you might have two, two or three college and
law school, yeah combined. I have nothing against those higher degrees.
But at the same time, for example, as a surgeon.
There's a lot I can do in the operating room.
I can't build that operating room. No, you can can't
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fix that equipment.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Amen. I make that point about elected officials. We elect
them to make decisions over matters that they have no comprehension, right,
you know they think Guam's going to capsize. Representative of
said Guama's gonna tip over. I mean we elected that guy.
You think he has any idea how to science industry,
I mean any of that. He's got no clue, so
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and yet making decisions on our behalf. Let's pause, We'll
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Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRA see the talk station.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Fift about KRC detalk station Brian Thomas with Brad Winster,
doctor Brad Winster, former Congressman. You know that, talk him
through the issues, and let's move over to Medicaid reform.
Everybody's out there whaling in nash teeth. Donald Trump's gonna
take away Medicaid. Donald Trump's gonna take away Medicaid. No
he's not. We're gonna try to reform it. If you're
able bodied and capable of working, you should at least
be forced to try to work or get some job
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skills which will be happy to pay for, but you
can't take medicaid. Brad.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, well it's been interesting too and seeing the results
of expanding Medicaid. Look, I am all favor in favor
of a country that has safety nets for those in need.
But as it's been said before, it shouldn't be a hammock.
It should be a safety net right, and we want
to provide for people on their path to independence. Financial independence.
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Everything else should be designed to be a temporary bridge, yes,
if at all possible. Now there's some I know with disabilities, etc.
That it's not going to be and I get that,
and we want to be able to provide. But there's
strong evidence that has been shown that there's a shift
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of financial resources with the expansion away from taking care
of the most vulnerable, and that's the narrative that we
need to be talking about. We want to reform it
so that we can do things like preventive medicine and
medicaid and do things that really help the most vulnerable,
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help pregnant women, especially if you're in poverty and you're pregnant,
you may be undernourished, all of these types of things
are you're getting your perinatal care, all these things to
then produce another healthy American exactly. Those areas rather than
covering down for people that could be working that aren't working.
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The expansion has been disastrous for many and it's time
to take a common sense approach to helping people all
in all, consistent with what we have just said in
the Doctor's Caucus.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
We want to be the healthiest nation on the planet.
I credit.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Director Kennedy Secretary Kennedy for saying make America healthy again.
You know, let's be the healthiest nation on the planet.
And yesterday he addressed reforming snap as well.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We don't pay for SODA's, soft drinks, sugary beverages like that,
among other things. We we actually pay for people to
just pollute their bodies and and and move them closer
to diabetes and obesity. And fraud is a problem too.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You you mentioned off air you can't buy cigarettes, and
but what you can do is I sell your snap
card for cash so that you can then go out
and pay for those.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I used to watch that when I worked in Finley
Market back in the eighties, Harry's Meats and Seafood. Shout
out to the Geiger brothers if they're out there, and
the guys that used to work there. But that was
the first time I encountered food stamps. I grew up
in a nice neighborhood and people were not relying upon
public's assistance. And I'm not dissing the concept, but they
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would swap them outside the store. People would hand over
food stamps your five dollars increments or ten dollars stamps
or one dollar stamps in return for cash exactly cash,
you get discounts. So five dollars in food stamps maybe
net you two or three dollars, but you could take
the two or three dollars and go down to buy smokes.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So the person using the card should have to identify themselves.
It seems to me just just the same as amming
to identify yourself when you're buying alcohol, the same as
you have to identify yourself for so many things. It's
only fair. Look, it's it's we are a giving nation.
I get that, but we shouldn't be doing more harm.
(32:56):
What's well the idea is a doctor do no harm,
do no harm.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And who say no, no, no. People have a choice
with you. You're just being you know, you can't to
deny them the opportunity of choice with what we give
them by way of public assistance. Like wait a second,
that would be encouraging harm. You know, if you allow
a snap card to be used to purchase literally pollutants,
unhealthy products to put in your body, then that's a
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government who enables you know, poisoning. Well, I mean I
hate to be so harsh with my conclusions on that,
but that, to me, that's what sodas are nothing. But
you know, sugar injected in your system, which has no
nutritional benefit whatsoever. Why make that an option?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And you know what the argument has been that I've
heard it. I heard it in Washington. Well, Brad, rich
people get to buy at bad foods, why shouldn't everyone.
The point is, you know what, there's there's a lot
of people with money that end up doing more to
protect themselves, to keep themselves healthy. Yes, they can buy
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those things, and yes many of them do, but they
also pay for but they shouldn't. But they also pay
for their own healthcare.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, that valid point. But that's not an argument
that these because rich people can buy them, that they
even should buy them in the first place. We discourage
it across across the board that they want to make
stupid choices. They're entitled to make stupid choices too, they
shouldn't be able to do it on the back of
the taxpayer. Will continue one more segment with Brad Winnstrip
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Speaker 1 (36:18):
Coming up on seven fifty one fifty five KR See
the talk station. Brian Thomas Swift, doctor Brad when Srip
former Congressman going through the issues and Catholic he is.
I mentioned Gataheaven Cemetery. He's got a couple of plots
there for him and his wife. Congress or former Congressman
Winstrip a comment or two about the pope. We're gonna
get a more conservative pope this time because I have
many I grew up in an all Catholic neighborhood except
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for me, basically got lots and lots and lots of
Catholic friends. Many of my listening audience are Catholics, and
I have not run into a single one that had
well appreciated or liked the direction that the deceased pope.
The recently deceased Pope took the messaging very left wing,
very liberally. He's sounded like a socialists, which rubbed a
(37:01):
lot of people the wrong way. Do you think there'll
be a more conservative pope this time?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I have a feeling that that's going to be the
trend because there was a lot of controversy around this
pope who had good intentions, but he's human like any
other pope, and so it should be an interesting go
round this time.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
You know, those of us our.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Age, Brian, we have vivid memories of John Paul the Second,
Oh sure, and that was an entirely different time and
and a different pope, pope, and different approach from this pope.
You know, he was he was dealing with issues of
evil in the world, Communism, you know, from his home
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country of Poland. It was it was inflicted upon them,
and he would work with Ronald Reagan. I mean, two
of my heroes in my lifetime, two of my inspirations
for my Catholicism and for my patriotism as an American right.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And so it was a different time.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
But I think it's time we take could closer look
at what really matters. And so it's one thing has
always bothered me when I would hear things from the pulpit, Well,
let's pray for our leadership and for our members of
Congress and this not to be more compassionate. It's really
up to us, Brian, It's up to us as individuals.
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I have high respect for Cardinal Dolan out of New York.
I don't know that he would get it. Politically, I
don't think the world's ready maybe for an American pope,
and maybe they should be at this place in time.
But I think that Dolan said he's searching for the
energy of John Paul the Second, the intellect of Benedict,
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and the heart of Francis, And I don't disagree with
all that. I think Francis Poe. Francis had a big heart,
but he was more you know, he was brought up
in more of a socialist regime, and he was known.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
To walk away from the fundamental doctrinal, dogmatic prince of
the Catholic Church in order to accommodate modern times. I mean,
that's not the role of the pope. I thought the
role of the pope was to uphold the church ideals
in doctrinal dogmatic principles exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
You know, for me as a Catholic, I don't want
a church that accommodates my sins, right. I want a
church that forgives my sins right, but don't accommodate them.
You know, you can love the sinner but hate the sin.
All of those things are how I was brought up.
And so some of the things that may be controversial
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to many, that doesn't mean you can't still love the
person that may be part of that controversy. And just
just looking at marriage and the Catholic Church, we call
it matrimony, which the origin of that word is the
making of a mother.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Which limits it to men and women getting married. I
understand your point on that. I'm not a Catholic, so
I don't struggle with doctrinal dogmatic issues. You sure do
know a lot of of them, and I know that well.
I told you, man, and I know you want to
a word or two about the what I believe prosecutors
are referring to as the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson
(40:11):
is such as shuts of tragedy that he was intentionally
hit and run by a car following the shooting of
the younger Hint and Rodney Hinton Junior has been charged
with his murder. I know you wanted to comment on that.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, I mean, I'm really taken by this in many
ways as you might imagine. You know, I've been a
strong protector of law enforcements as you have, and you
know we endured the loud cries of the defund the police.
And although I do think it's still out there. It
(40:44):
has died down quite a bit, and some people politically
have changed their mind on that. From the other side,
I think one of the things that really has me
upset in a lot of ways is the reaction that
his taken place. There's a go Fundme page.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, I saw. The Sheriff's department was seeking to get
that removed because that violates Go Fundmes rules. You can't
create a funding page for people who've been charged with
heinous crimes. So I hope that's the case. Well, no
one had given any money to at least as of
the last time.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
There wasn't much I saw, like five thousand dollars or
something that's dollars. But the reaction to defend thieves and
murders as victims to me as appalling. But that's very
deep rooted and misdirected, and I think it has a
lot to do with what was put in people's minds,
whether through social media or whatever, to turn everyone into
(41:40):
too a victim. I'm very saddened by this, but you know,
we were just talking about the pope. I think for
the family, I'm extremely sorry and I hope to reach
out to them and hope that they can understand that
there's a lot of support for them in their grief
without question. And you know, I like a lot of times,
(42:01):
I'm only comforted by the promise of heaven and that
gets me through a lot of.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Things, you know, and that really does work for so
many people. You know, you get the looking forward to
the peace of God. Brad Weinster, I love you, brother,
It's great to see you. Thanks for coming in and
making the trip. It's been great to walk through the
issues with you, which we had more time, but got
to take a break. Right now, do top of our
news and then we'll get the inside scoop of Breitbart
News editor in chief Alex Marlowe. Remember Brad's doing a
(42:30):
seminar tomorrow night, seven pm. Empower Youoamerica dot org for
all the details. What are the lessons learned from the pandemic.
Thanks for your time, Brad, It's been great. Thank you.
Stick around me right back. Confused happens fast, stay up
to date at the top of the hour.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Not gonna be complicated.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
It's gonna go very fast. Fifty five KRC the talk station.
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