Brian Thomas spends a full hour with Private Citizen Brad Wenstrup

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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case with private citizen former Congressman Brad Winsor Brad, it
is a pleasure to have you here, always a good time,
and it's a shame we have nothing to talk about
by way of topics. Well, there's always that. It seems,
oh my, just a crazy world we find ourselves in,
all right, Before we get to the Chinese and the
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(00:56):
gunmen who you helped save Steve Scalies and this steel
does and all the other nefarious things that the FBI
did and is now trying to cover up and destroy
a bunch of questions swirling around that. We will talk
about that, folks, But of course I want to first
dive into the Israeli Iran situation We've got going on
right now. I think all my listeners know what's going on.

(01:17):
It becomes a question now. And Donald Trump said within
the next couple of weeks he is going to decide
whether or not to use the Chris Christie bombs to
blow up the Fordham nuclear facility, which is where these
centrifuges are apparently buried underground. And since so many people
widely report that, I'm pretty confident that the Mossad and
the Israeli defense forces are very clear that what's in

(01:37):
there and where it happens to be located. So if
they did use these giant, thirty thousand pound bombs, that
they would know exactly where to drop them. You feel
comfortable with that sort of conclusion we're at right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, I think it's hard to argue that the Israeli
intelligence is weak. It's very strong.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I mean, to look what they have done.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I mean, just these surgical takeouts of the scientists and
the leadership in Iran that's unbelievable in today's day and age.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It was beyond their expectations, widely reported. I mean, they
knew where these generals were going to be. They apparently
were able to lure them into a face to face meeting.
But as it turns out, when they launched that missile strike,
they got a hell of a lot more of the
top command than they really expected to get.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, I you know, that's that's good for them. I mean,
that's just unbelievable. I have I have a lot of hope,
I guess, and some faith in what the Israelis are
capable of. And I don't think that they started this
without a potential plan of their own.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Oh, clearly works for a long time. Yeah, And so you.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Know, they may or may not need us help to
ultimately complete the goal, which, as Donald Trump said, his
goal is no nukes and he and he pretty much
ends it there. He doesn't talk about regime change. He
just says, no nukes. Don't want you to have any nukes.
That's the threat to the United States and the free world.
The world watches and listens to Donald Trump. There's no

(03:08):
doubt about it. I mean, he just dominates the airwaves.
So what he says matters. They're talking go ahead.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was just going to say, I appreciate and sort
of embrace that concept of no regime change, because you know,
it's the B words you know versus the B words
you don't. There is always going to be a supreme
leader that's going to step in the place of whatever
iototly get dies or gets waxed or is blown up.
The religious philosophy and the ideology is not going to

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change with the eradication of one or two guys.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, but it depends, right, and so who are the
other one or two guys or thousands of guys. Ironically,
the day after the attack, I'm in DC in an uber.
I always talk to the uber drivers. Most of them
are foreign. I ask where they're from, and you know,
if I've been there, it's kind of interesting conversation. I
have not been to Iran, although in Iraq I was

(04:02):
at the edges, but the driver was from Iran. I said, oh,
what about last night? He goes, all of Iran is happy,
All of Iran is happy. Yeah, I mean I didn't
pull those words out of him, but he's telling me
my family still I get families still there. All of
Iran is happy. Forty six years we've had this regime. Yeah,

(04:24):
forty six years.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, this is the kind of chatter we heard from
the Iraqis ahead of us going into Iraq, that the
citizenry is going to rise up and everyone's going to
be happy and embrace the US forces.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
And they did.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It was the insurgents and those seeking power after that
saw a power vacuum and they wanted to fill it.
And that's what the insurgency was. And that was multinational.
If you end up dominating the masses, unfortunately, if they
have the yeah, strength muscle, right, I know, I know,
I know, yeah, the factor of life. But you know,

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we've moved the mnimic since the region in the Vincent.
That's not uncommon. We do that type of thing all
the time, in a little show of force. And you know, look,
Donald Trump is probably the first president to actually stand
up and say I don't know what I'm going to do.
No one knows what I'm going to do. And I
think he does that intentionally. Look, we as a country

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have maybe short memories, but I'm going to tell you
from my experience. I remember nineteen seventy nine. I remember
the four hundred and forty four days sure of American
hostages in Iran. That's the first time I heard the
word Iotola.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, I remember the iatola toilet mints in the bottom
of the toilet miurinals remember those?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I remember that. And in Iraq,
you know, I'm taking care of guys blown up. The
forensics are there. The weaponry that was used to blow
up an American military came from Iran and Sulimani. You know,
I was grateful. Actually, Solimani was on his way to

(06:04):
kill more Americans or attempt to. When Donald Trump took
him out during his first term. That was pretty surgical
in and of itself. Right, I don't know where are people.
Some people might be in. Well, if you do that,
that's okay, you know, but we don't want to get
into a whole work nobody does. Nobody does the Vietnam syndrome,
the Iraq syndrome, the Afghanistan syndrome that we all carry.

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You know, it's like, when is this ever going to
be over there? You know, that's where America is and
that's what America's worried about. And I get that, and
I think the President understands that. But it's interesting to
see some of his biggest political supporters in the House
and in the Senate are being highly critical and jumping

(06:48):
to the conclusion this will be another twenty year war
where that's not who this president is all right now.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
The main suggestion is it seems to be the focus
rather seems to be that Fordam nuclear facility.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
It just keeps getting brought up.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
If we can just eradicate that we have set them
back to the stone agents as far as the nuclear
program is going, they've already blown up all the other
surface of nuclear facilities and installation the heavy water facilities,
and that the targets they were able to hit or
are continuing to hit. But this one's a problem because
it's buried so deep enter the I been calling them

(07:24):
Chris Christie bombs because they're thirty thousand pound bombs, but
these can penetrate. Wall Street Journal had an interesting video
on it. I've been regular recommending my listeners take a
look at how they work. There's still remains a question
that if we go ahead and do that, and that's
where the complicating factors come in. And maybe you can
offer your insight on this, because as I have read

(07:46):
over and over again, that's going to require the use
of US military personnel. There are b two bombers. There
are bombs. Israel doesn't own any yet, they don't have
any airplanes that are capable of toting and deploying these bombs.
So somebody's got to do it. And right now, all
errors seem to point to us. First question before we
deal with the complicating factors on that, and whether that's
true or not. Will they actually reach their intended target?

(08:11):
And there seems to be some question as to whether
or not they can. Yes, you can loze them, yes
they can blow up, but will they do the damage
that is necessary? Do we have any confidence that that
actually that they'll actually work?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, I think that's the closest thing to it, And
it certainly seems to me that it would just destroy
quite a bit of the infrastructure associated to the centrifugees. Yeah,
you know, like can you even get to them?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
You have to dig it out?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean so yeah, and then what and then
it'd be easy for anyone the Israelis to target those
that are trying to dig it out.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I mean, I think good point.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think that you know the damage can be done
even if it's just you know, surrounding the access to
what they've built.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So deep, fair enough, second question on that, and then
we'll take a break. Israel was able to successfully in
another brilliant, brilliant military effort, launch that sucks neck software
into the centrifuges in Iran and it destroyed all of them.
A brilliant use of technology too for warfare purposes. That

(09:14):
didn't stop them from moving forward with their nuclear program.
They just rebuilt the centrifuges. Wouldn't we be this? I mean,
if you put aside the idea that okay, well, we're
not going to be able to change the regime. I
don't want to change the regime. But the motives of
the regime are to obtain a nuclear weapon. And since
they're budied up now real close with China and some
of our other adversaries all you know, many of whom

(09:35):
have these nuclear technology, could they not acquire one or
otherwise just hit the ground running and start all over
again and pursue a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
And isn't that likely?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, those are all the pieces on the chessboard, aren't
they say?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's why? Yeah, no, no, they really are. It's fair.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
But the underlying belief is that although they use each
other for strength, that being North Korea, Iran, China and
Russia that the big two with nukes of three really
don't want them to have it. They really don't want
them to have it. I mean, keep in mind they

(10:12):
still disagree religiously. Yeah, it's like having a crazy uncle.
You know, you're related to him, and you'll play nicely
with Thanksgiving, But if you want them to run around
with a firearm, yeah, I mean that's kind of it. Yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean they see potential problems with
that as well. And then there's plenty of things that
they still would disagree with Iran on, but they use

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them as an ally when necessary.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Fair Enough.

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Seven twenty one, Big about KRCD talk station talking with
citizen former Congressman Brad winsormin studio. We're talking matters military.
Of course, he probably of his country and still is
in service to his country. He's had all of the
security clearances under the sun. And so he is in
a very great position to talk about the matters we're
talking about and pivoting over to something that's near and

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dear to my heart the Constitution the United States of America,
which vests the power to wage war in the hands
of Congress. And then we have you know, these sort
of the War Powers Resolution in nineteen seventy three, which
loosens up and delegates some of the authority from Congress
to the president. Never been tested in court, although Supreme
Court presidents suggests it will be found unconstitutional, but we

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live with that. Then there's this thing we call authorization
use of military force, which also isn't in the Constitution,
but they do issue those Where are we right now?
On we're talking about either Trump's gonna do it or
he's not, But does he have the legal foundation to
do it? In the first place, you said where are

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we now? Yeah, we are in two thousand and one
is where.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
We are going back to eleven period off.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well, I mean, I will say this, and I'll say
this you know, as a soldier and as a former politician,
if you will, the support of the American people is
something you always need and want to have, of course
before you go into action. I mean, after nine to eleven,
it was giddy up, America's flying the flag and here
we go. Right, you don't get to do that to

(14:23):
us when it comes to lawmakers. You look at what
we've done over the years with agencies. We created agencies
so we wouldn't have to vote on things. I mean,
and it's a real problem today. That's a whole nother segment.
But but you know, that's that's how I somewhat look
at where we are with the authority for use of

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military force. It was granted to the president in two
thousand and one after nine to eleven, and understandably because
you had to have a commander in chief that had
the capabilities to respond the way the country wanted us
to respond.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right, And it was a horse of a different color
because we weren't fight fighting a nation flying under a
flag in uniform. It was sort of this nebulous group
of terrorists that seem to be all over the place.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
It was totally different, right, And so you get.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Declare war against like people that are everywhere in the
Middle East.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, exactly, really what we did.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
So I'll read what the aumf said, and then the
interpretations today and I'm looking at an article by Andrew
McCarthy which was in National Review. They said, the president
is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against
those nations, organizations, or persons he determines they probably pult
have said, should have said he or she, but he determines, planned, authorized, committed,

(15:41):
or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September eleven,
two thousand and one, or harbored such organizations or persons
in order to prevent any future attacks of international terrorism
against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, so because Iran was in and did Harvard terrorists
back in twenty twenty no, so.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Throughout throughout the process they were, they were moving al
Qaeda in and out of Afghanistan. They were facilitating al
Qaeda's movements and efforts, let's put it that way. Were
they aware of the nine to eleven attack, Probably not,
because that was held very close hence its success.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Unfortunately, most people my listening ideas think the Saudi's were
behind that one. Anyway, we considering who the people who
the bombers were.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Who knows what kesh Ptel may find it, John, We're
going to get too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Indeed, so by extension then that because Iran was involved
back then in that those activities. By extension. Fast forward
to twenty twenty five, you're saying Donald Trump has the
authority under that authorization for use of military force to
drop the bombs if he chooses to do something, because.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
The AUMs author authorization of force was against nations that
harbor nine to eleven operatives, nations or people or organizations.
All right, remember remember the phrase if you hou'se a terrorist,
you are a terrorist.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Understood.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now we can debate whether that language extends all the
way to the current activities of obtaining a nuclear weapon
for their own behalf of the Iranians, and whether that
has some connection or whether that relates to terrorist activity.
But we let you hash that out amongst yourself, I suppose,
because we may come to different conclusions on that. I
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Seven thirty fifty five krs DE talk station, enjoying the conversation.
I wish it wasn't the subject matters so much, but
at least interesting exchange, the thoughts and ideas and questions
getting answered by a private citizen. Former Congressman Bradwinsterrip who's
in the studio pivoting over. I know you think the
world of Cash Betel, and so do I because anybody's
in favorite of transparency and getting to the bottom of

(19:51):
stuff is in my uh is I'm a fan of
and boy is a million places we could go with
what cash Rettel is looking into and what he is
talking about and documents that he is finally handing over
in spite of the fact that you, among other folks
on subcommittees, asked for records and were denied access to

(20:14):
them on how many countless occasions.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
How about you've lost track of how.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Many times they basically told you to know with a
metaphorical verbal middle finger.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
And you know, Bran, it's not just the FBI, It's
across all the agencies. You know, I was chairing the
Pandemic committee, and we want we go to HHS Health
and Human Services. We want to see your documents concerning
the decision on masks or school closures. Okay, and you
know we're just trying to learn what'd you do, why'd
you do it? What can we do better in the future.
We're met with a lawyer and so we have to

(20:43):
The process is you have to ask a few times
and then you can subpoena them and then they send
us stuff redacted. What in HHS needs to be redacted?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
I get that, maybe for CIA documents and things like
that protecting names.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And maybe a medical study that relied on in support
of the mass requirements. Well, here's all the research that
was done. These are you know, peer reviewed scientific studies.
You don't redact that, you hand it over. It's open
source stuff too that we're asking about it. I mean,
it's unbelievable that that needs to change. Only in the
military is unethical, unlawful.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
That's amazing, isn't it? Isn't it?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Maybe there would be some legislative accountability. Oh my god,
the idea that they might hold themselves accountable through now
that will never happen.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well, you know what, Brown, we did that with PHISA reform.
Remember PISA was the court abused by the FBI to
get warrants on Carter Page. They didn't come forth with
the exculpatory evidence they told they went to Carter Page
in a foreign land and said we can get you
Hillary's emails from the Russians. He said, I can't do that.
That would be treason. That should be end of story, right,

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And not only that, that was entrapman to begin with.
But they don't go to the court and tell them.
He said that they go and say things that allow
them to get another warmant warrant that it be done anymore.
And if you do that, you're going to jail. So
we did make some changes there. Yeah, but the flies
of courts still exist. It's a conversation for another day.
I don't want to go down that road. My blood
pressure will go through the roof. But we now find

(22:12):
out cash Hotel said the Chinese Communist Party issued twenty
thousand plus fake IDs for the purpose of influencing the
election under Joe Biden. We also have the baseball game
that you were at where that Loan gunman and they
concluded over the FBI that was suicide by cop, which
was absolute nonsense.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
You knew that.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I knew that because at the time no one even
knew there were police officers present. It was fortuitous that
the Capitol Police had a detail effort. Steve Scalice, you
saved the man's life. Turns out he had a list
of basically all the Republican congressmen and women on the field,
and that had he wiped them all out, it truly
would have been an overthrow of the government because there

(22:52):
would be no representatives from the Republican side of the ledger.
I've made that point when they were doing the unlike
January sixth, when they were doing the January Commission, I
went to rules and I said, expand the commission to
look at what happened at the baseball field. I said,
that's an insurrection. Yeah, if Steve Sclice went there's no police,
he kills twenty people, changing the balance of power in
the House of Representatives. But all I wanted. What we

(23:15):
wanted was the case file. Intelligence Committee wanted the case file.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Right. It wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You have security clearicy. It wasn't the New York Times
asking for the case file. It was the Intelligence Committee.
And they would not give it to us, would not
give it to us, and finally cash Ptel gave it
to us. We worked that issue. I still have an
ig investigation taking place, looking into the whole process, and
by that that's when you start looking at people's emails

(23:41):
and other things that you can find where I maybe
someone says, we can't say a Democrat did this.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, that's where you get to most maybe because there's
always the lingering question of why why won't you hand
this information over? Moving back to your point on the
whole COVID nineteen investigation, why did you have a mask
mandate or the six or the ten foot standupoint stand
apart six foot mandate. That's a simple question. The American
people should be entitled to know the answer. Why did

(24:09):
you reach that conclusion? But they're not telling you, which
is where conspiracy theories easily pop up. And then, of
course we could pivot over to the Steel dossier and
all the shenanigans behind the scenes going on with that
and who was colluding with Russians. Christopher Steel, Christopher Steele.
He wrote that with Russians at behest of the DNC,
who paid for it? Brian I looked at the other

(24:30):
side of the aisle, and I said, how did you
all feel when you realized you paid for that dossier?
Not one of them looked up. They kept their heads down.
Not one of them looked up.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I mean, we've look we're in a look. We got
to take advantage of these next two years. We got
people in place that can try and bring some accountability
and hopefully establish some trust in the agencies at least
while these people are there, but overall, our agencies need
an overhaul. They need to be like the military. If
you don't get promoted, you're out and you are term limited.

(25:05):
This should be a service you're serving the American people.
It should be an honor to be in an agency.
And the agencies should be subject matter experts advising the
country and advising Congress on paths forward.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
But rather than that, they are experts on advancing their
own particular party interest. Yes, which is where our lack
of confidence and faith springs from, as evidence by just
a handful of things we tossed out among a much
bigger pile of other what i'll call shenanigans by these
various agencies. We'll continue with seasoned citizen and former Congressman

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a former congressman in studio talking about a variety of
issues and going back to and I think it's important
that we we we spend a little bit more time
talking about that. The insurrection, the violent effort to overthrow
the government and control of the government by the shoot

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the gunman on the baseball field back in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
That injured Stevescalise.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Had he and you pointed this out, like if this
happened right now, we were talking off air about this
is some craze loon was able to take out five Republicans,
then the balance of power and the Speaker of the
House would flip over to Hakim Jefferies, because you have
to have special elections to substitute the now deceased congress

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person who's the victim of this effort. And it really
does show you how precarious the situation is. You know,
Hakim Jeffries, the Speaker of the House, does not reflect
the will of the American people because they wanted Donald
Trump and Republicans apparently to control the government. So you
had mentioned at one point there was some proposed bipartisan

(28:46):
solutions to this, but apparently that's never gone anywhere, which
is concerning.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So well, and it was led by me and Derek Kilmer,
who actually came to me with the concept of concern.
He said, Brad, you know, after the baseball sh shooting,
you might be a good person to, you know, share
this with me and try and push the spearheaded if
you will. And what we're trying to do is have
a continuity of government. And as you said, and we

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set off the air, you want to maintain the will
of the people with your representation in government. So Republicans
and of course take away the incentive to try something
like that, the incentive and you know I called the
Acts of the baseball Field and insurrection it was you
talk about, you know, trying to take over the government

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in some way, that that's a great way to do it.
So are what our bill does or recommends, and it's
open for debate, but we got to have something in
place in my mind, in the world do we live
in today, and especially after what you saw in Minnesota.
Oh yeah, that should be another warning. But our bill says,
when you get into Congress, you have five people's names
that you put aside, and they are there, and the

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governor of your state needs to pick one of them.
So they're your choices, and the governor picks them. So
regardless the governor Republican or Democrat, picks one of the
five that you chose, right, right, so you can't flip
it to another party, right, you know, by different governors.
So that that's the way we had it in place.

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And you only hold that seat until a special election.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Has taken.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's the key, right, a temporary placeholder under the same
political party until the people have the choice of who
they won in that role exactly exactly and who could
be against that conceptually, because this is not a Republican
or Democrat reality. I mean, if the Democrats had control
of the House and only five of them were we

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you know, we're the majority, some crazy lunatic right winger
could take out five of them much at the Democrat practice, right, yep,
and then they would lose power. So you know this,
this sounds like a no brainer and something it should
have been in place on the close on the heels
of what happened that day. And yet oh probably didn't
because the FBI determined that this was a suicide by cop,

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not someone who wanted to overthrow the control of the House.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Oh, way to put those two together, right, I like that,
But it takes a constitutional amendment. That's oh and how
hard does somebody want to work on it? Well, we
were willing to, and but the Washington Post reached out
and they did. He did a very fair article. He
quoted me accurately and everything else, and commented on this

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just yesterday.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So it should be an easy sell though, right right.
I mean, you know, manding the Constitution is very complicated process.
But when you're talking about something so politically neutral and
so important, given the background circumstances and the fact that
they'rebo for the grace of God, go you or I,
depending on party. I don't know I would think this

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would be smooth sailing.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I think there's too many people that want to bury
their head in the sand about the realities that existed.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well, maybe Ash Bettel's releasing the information showing exactly what
really happened, we might open people's eyes up to what
hell how close we were to having something like that happened.
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Before we continue up our last topic with private citizen,
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Officer Tivity Viny Green from the Sincii Police Department. Who
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We are looking for artists Findley. He has wanted for
felony telecommunication harassment and misdemeanor domestic violence. Mister Finley sent
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Sounds like a real jerk.

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to fifty five KRC dot com. Anyhow, Congressman Dealer's Choice,

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you said you had something you want to bring up
in the last segment we have here today.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I think something very interesting. And there's an unclassified
version to the work that was done on this bipartisan commission.
It's a National Security Commission on Emerging biotechnology, and they
have put out a booklet, but you can find them
online and there's a classified version and so being on
the President's Intelligence Advisory Board and having a clearance, they said,

(35:46):
and all the work that I have done in well
biothreats more than just biotechnology. Would you want to come
in and see what we have concluded. And there's so
many positives. There's so many things that we can do
about information storage. You can do that with DNA, and
you can take what it takes huge computers, you know,

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down to almost nothing. And what we can do and
can continue to do actually in agriculture and gene based therapies. Now,
from where I sit with Intelligence Committee and former soldier,
you always worry about the ne various actors. But in
biotechnology itself, we have to be the leaders. We have
to be the innovators. Otherwise we are going to be

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the under the thumb of China, who has made it
very clear this is their number one priority. So there's
positives that can come out of this tremendously and we
want to be the leaders on it. Control our supply
chains and do these types of things. You know, that's
that's what's out there. That's a priority. But when it

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comes to other things too, you know, we talk about
armed services and as one of the representatives who's on
armed services or services said to me, you know, we
sit here when we talk about ships and planes and
all this stuff. We've got to be engaged with this
so that we can be the leaders in hypersonics and
all these types of things that would actually help keep

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us safe.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Okay, And that may one may argue also include the
crazy craft the Chinese are doing with the wuhun instead
of virology, ticking around with viruses. So I mean we
don't want them to tink around with viruses. I mean,
the threat to humanity is too grave that we should
even be involved with this.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
And yet you know what it.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Apparently is going on everywhere. Yeah, I mean they're not saying,
let's go do gain and function research. They're not. By
the way, if you're trying to if you're trying to
predict a potential virus, which is what the claims were
made by Fauci Collins all those we're trying to predict
what might happen in nature so that we're ready and
have a vaccine for it. Oh yeah, but you might

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create a pandemic if it leaks. Ah, well, the benefits
that way they risk They don't, they don't. But You
can do all this just by getting the data. Get
the data of the viruses that are existing in nature
and the components of it, and other components that are
nearby that could create a greater pathogen. You can do
it all with AI with probably with really good predictability.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
All right, here's truth. Here's I observe.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
We have right now cancer, we have right now, Alzheimer's disease,
and dementia. We have right now a whole bunch of
diseases like Luke Gerrigg's disease.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
For which we have no cure.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
How about we deal with what we know and find
these cures for the things that we know about and
that actually exists in reality, as opposed to cooking them
up in a pot and making something out of whole
cloth and then deciding how we're going to cure it.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
To find a cure for it, Well, the idea is
there's room enough for all of that, the crisper technology
and things like that, where you can change outcomes. I mean,
if we're not doing it, they are, and they are
more inclined to use it for nefarious reasons in some ways.
But I remember going to I don't know about that.
I remember going to MIT a few years ago that

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and they were showing us, like, you can reproduce the
cells that make up a turtle shell. Okay, so why
can't we use those living cells to create armor or
to create the side of your car? You know, can
we modify it? Can we do these things? So all

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these things come from nature. So you're talking about plastics
and other things. They can be grown rather than actually
produce in a lab. It's just all very interesting. It's
going that way, and there are good uses that will
better serve mankind. That's where we want to focus. But
we have to be leary of those that would have

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nefarious I mean, I always say this, the Wright brothers
never thought you would take this and fly into buildings
and kill three thousand peop But we have to be
on guard for that.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
I expect you're right, Brad webs Trip.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
It is always great having you in the studium and
count on these conversations face to face. And We've got
a lot of ground that we covered this morning. And
I really enjoyed the the the thoughtful exchange given the
complex realities of what we're dealing with in this world.
And I'll look forward to having you back in and
best of health and love you and your whole family
and enjoy the rest of your summer my friends.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, thanks you too, and thanks for the opportunity to
come in. I love this face to face. Yeah, we
have good conversation online and offline exactly.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
I know.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I know the listeners missed out on the off mike stuff.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
We bring it. Yeah, it's good. Well, take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'll look for our next conversation because I'm certain there'll
be more as long as you're willing to come in.
You have a place to to engage in this and
we'll do it again real soon.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Pleasure Brad. Coming up, Josh.

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Judge Josh Berkowitz scorn a win in the Ohio Supreme
Court clerk of course, just getting out of control. We'll
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