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September 25, 2025 20 mins
Brian talks with Warren Davidson about the potential government shutdown on October 1st and many more national topics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
He the talk station seven five. Here at fifty five
kr CD talk station. Brian Thomas wishing everyone a happy

(00:30):
Thursday's last Friday. He would like to refer to it
and always excited about having Congressman Warren Davidson on the
program that's happening right now. Welcome back to the fifty
five KRC Morning Show and Congressman Warren Davidson. It's always
a pleasure to having you on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, always an honor, nice tycon with you, Brian.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought about you last night. Last night, your name
didn't actually come up, but I was at a rally
for Congressman Thomas Massey, was Senator Ram Paul. They hit
a multi stop rallies and they gave me the opportunity
to facilitate the event. No big deals, just like introducing
a lot of Kentucky elected official of course, hearing from
Senator Rampaul and Congressman Massey, and I thought about you.
I'm in the room with two of the very few

(01:09):
of all the elected officials in Washington, DC that I
actually have respect for. So I thought about you because
you're in that small list. Congressman Davidson, well.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's h I praise. I really appreciated Brian and here
they had a pretty good event, so it was good.
There was a lot of love and support for both
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
There a lot of and since it came up, and
this is not a topic that even had on my
list to speak with you, but because it did come
up in Congressman Massy's comments, because now there are three
billionaires who are funding an anti Massy ad campaign, and
he brought it up because he believes it's completely connected
with the Epstein files. Because Congressman Massi is waiting for

(01:47):
the discharge petition, He's got all of the votes he
needs with the newly appointed representatives, so we should be
seeing a vote on that soon. That obviously is going
to result in a vote on whether or not we
eat the American people can get the Epstein documents, which
looks like it probably will happen. I don't know what
happened to the Trump administration on this. They went complete
one point eighty. But in connection with these billionaire ad campaigns,

(02:08):
one of them is on or is in Epstein's personal
phone book, which only had a couple of hundred names
in it, so he suspects that there is some connection
with the ad campaign and the desire to keep these
documents under wraps. Your reaction, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think he certainly's got a pretty strong feud going
on with President Trump, and President Trump is a guy
that'd be good to not have a feud with. I
know Thomas loves a lot of Trump policies, but he's
been consistent he doesn't vote for big spending, no matter
who's doing the spending, and he doesn't vote for foreign
aid no matter who the aid's going to. Some of

(02:46):
the Israeli folks took an offense at that, and it's like, no,
there's nothing special about my position with israel I. Don't
vote for foreign aid for anybody. That's been his position.
You know, most of us respect his positions. Not everyone agrees.
That's why all the spending goes up, up, up, and
you know, all the aid goes everywhere, and often with

(03:06):
very little accountability. So and triak me to sometimes two
countries that don't really need the aid, that have lower
debt than we do. So, you know, and with respect
to the Epstein files, I think you know, Massy went
hard after that. I think as Trump was going hard
at Massy, and it kind of coincided with Trump once

(03:26):
the Big Beautiful Bill passed, he kind of started talking
about a couple of things, like the Epstein list is
a hoax. I mean, I've pushed Jim Jordan, you know,
the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, like, we don't necessarily
need to see the list. Normally we find out about
this stuff because evidence is presented at a trial. And
the Attorney General, Pam Bondi said that we're going to

(03:47):
be trials. She gave binders to journalists. I want Pam
Bondy to come to Congress and I want somebody to say, hey,
explain yourself what happened and where are the trials? Because
that's the fundamental issue. People have asked me some So
I got elected. When is somebody going to jail? And
Congress doesn't have a prosecutor. The Attorney General is supposed
to prosecute criminals.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That is correct, and with a thousand victims at least
that's been reported widely. Is the a thousand victims of
the Esteine trafficking organization and operation? I mean, Massey pointed
out he wasn't just trafficking for himself. Obviously there were
others involved. And you'd like to think when you're talking
about minors being trafficked, that someone would be held accountable criminally.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I mean that should be unifying, and I think
it is, and I think, you know, some of the
Trump administration is just in just a very odd disconnect.
I mean, I think you know, President Trump's normally very
connected with issues that the base cares about, and it's
delusional to think that somehow people no longer care about
this issue. I will say I've talked to descisuments who
feel exasperated, like there's no hope that anyone's ever going

(04:51):
to be held accountable, so they just move on and
look to other issues and they can see wins that
they care about. But you know, there should be accountability
no matter who's who's the guilty parties here. But somebody
trafficked to these young women and Jelaane Maxwell's in jail
for the trafficking part was they didn't traffic them. They

(05:13):
weren't trafficked to themselves. They were traffic to somebody on
the other side of that. And uh, Frankly Cash Bettel
at hearings before the Senate. Uh is Senator Kennedy from
Louisiana asked him, and he said, well, we don't have
evidence of them being trafficked to anyone else, and we'll
really like who why is Jelane Maxwell in jail?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
A right?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, it's just mind blowing some of the answers
that are being given. And normally the answer is Normally
the answer is is, well, I can't come in an
ongoing investigation, but they give the idea that there isn't
even an ongoing investigation in this ministration. And yeah, that
is mind blown.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's mind blowing, and it deepens the mystery, and it
increases and feeds the adds fuel to the fire for
demands by the American people to get the documents out there.
Why are we getting all this mixed information? Why aren't
there in any prosecutions? You know, who are these wealthy,
well healed folks who are well connected with or who
were well connected with Jeffrey Epstein? And what were they
all about? Don't I just the changing direction by the

(06:15):
Trump administration is really one of the few criticisms I
have up to date since he was sworn in pivoting over.
It looks like we're facing a government shutdown. Apparently, if
there's no agreement reach, government's going to shut down. At
twelve oh one a m. October first, Chuckie Schumer says
that this new OMB memo, which says we're going to
fire a bunch of federal workers if we don't get
a proposal reached, says it's a threat. Of course, it

(06:39):
is an attempt at intimidation, is what he referred to
it as. But I found this fun fact from the
OMB to be particularly illustrative of maybe a broader problem
in government. OMB memo instructs its agencies to design reduction
of forced plans if we shut down for employees who
work for programs that have no current funding and have

(07:01):
no outside funding source, and for which there are no
they're not consistent with the President's priorities. You mean we're
paying people. I don't understand how that situation can even exist.
Are there slots left open that are going to be removed?
Are people actually working in areas where there's no funding
of any type? This reporting from the Wall Street Journal,
I found it quite puzzling. Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, I didn't read the Wall Street Journal's report, but
I did read a statement from russ Vote, and I
think what he's meaning is is posed to shutdown, Like
once the funding expires, then certain programs would have no funding,
and you know other programs are still funded, like the
military is still funded. Right, I'm going to get rid
of the military, right, but you know the prisons is

(07:45):
that the guards aren't going to stop showing up at
the prisons, right at the prisons, so air traffic controller
are still going to go to work. But you know
you've got certain agencies that aren't as high on that
priority list and don't have the same continuity of fund
in those areas. Well, then you know these aren't considered

(08:06):
you know essential when a shutdown phase, well, then which
positions can we eliminate? And you could see certain certain
roles that the administration would say, I'm not really sure
why Congress ever appropriated exactly, So so okay, if in
the past they appropriated for it, but now it's last,
we don't even think this should exist. So here's an

(08:27):
easy way to just say, great, we're just going to
reduce the force here, and that that kind of discretion
comes to the president when you shut down. Remember when
Barack Obama decided to use the shutdown to spend money,
frankly to put people out to block Americans from going
to national parks. Yeah, so there is a lot of
latitude in terms of how you comply with a shutdown. Uh,

(08:50):
you know, Barack Obama thought that closing down the national
parks was the most essential way to save money. I'm
pretty sure the Trump administration will choose different preyer already,
but they will find a way to save money. And
that gives a lot of latitude to us.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Voted at and be well and the idea, you know,
that that these non essential services. And I don't want
to paint with too broad up a brush, but shouldn't
we you know, conceptually speaking as American taxpayers with a
thirty seven plus trillion dollar deficit and a trillion plus
dollars a year in interest service, shouldn't we never fund
services that are non essential? I mean, doesn't that point?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
You know? And I like people are out there saying, oh,
you know, there's no consequences for the two trillion dollar
deaths that every year, two trillion, you know, six percent
of our GDP. They're like, how is there not massive inflation,
you get six percent of GDP getting poofed into the economy. Uh,
you know as deficits. Of course there's inflation, and you

(09:48):
see the evidence everywhere. And instead of saying, oh, you know,
we should we should turn something non essential off, there's
like this rush amongst immigrants. We need another one and
a half billion dollars in spending, including restoring free health
care for illegals. We're going to shut the government down.
I mean, this is what they're fighting over, is these

(10:10):
COVID emergency funding, which the COVID emergency has long since expired. Yes,
even in Washington, DC, and here we are fighting to
keep the funding going as if we're in the midst
of a pandemic right now.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, it's bizarre. I mean, the pandemic spending was the
largest spending bill ever passed in Congress, was related to
the pandemic spending, and we saw all the fraud, wasted
abuse that went along with that, just basically throwing billions
of dollars out into the world with no accountability. So
that's another failed government program. But the idea that COVID's

(10:46):
over and we still want to spend at that level
is absolutely insane. But that's exactly what Schumer and the
Democrats are pushing for. They're willing to shut the government
down unless we continue COVID level funding. Wow, it's just crazy.
I think they're going to this one. How do you
feel about that one, Congressman Davidson, if it does shut.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Down, Yeah, I mean I assume there'll be you know,
five or six networks out there and the you know,
controlled media that'll be out there messaging for Chuck Schumer.
But the great thing is is the public is broken
past all that. They know the reality. I mean, look, Congress,
we passed in the House of bill a week or
so ago about funding that just look, there's no like

(11:24):
big Republican priorities. I mean, this is my frustration. Look,
I didn't run to be on the punt team. I mean,
we're supposed to be on offense right now point, you know,
but we're just kicking the can down the road, not
solving any of the problems, just status COO level funding.
I mean, this is the funding package that Schumer when
he was the Senate Majority leader last Congress, and when

(11:45):
Joe Biden or the Auto Pen was running things for
the executive branch. This is that level of funding. So yeah, okay,
I know the all the ever one is more, but
it wasn't like, oh, this is some radical overhaul of
the spending priorities that I'm pleading for, that you're pleating for,
is yeah, let's turn some of this stuff off. That's
not what Chuck Schumer is rejecting. He's rejecting status quo funding.

(12:08):
So I don't know how he doesn't own.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
It exactly, And I'm glad you're able to get that
all out. Congressman Davidson will continue in a moment here,
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(13:20):
warning Davidson. There are some good ones in congress, Congressman
Davidson one of them. And let me get your reaction
to the ramped up anger vitro. I think a lot
of people are connecting the assassination at Charlie Kirk, the
most recent illustration yesterday, the crazed Antifah leftist gunmen who
wanted to kill Ice agents. We could go on a

(13:41):
whole litany and list of folks, the couple of assassination
attempts on Donald Trump amid these swirling screams and crying
of Democrats, most notably yesterday with the Ice shooting. They
call them, they call them Nazis and masked thugs, and
on and on and on and on, drawing all these
parallels to evil regimes like the Nazi regime. They think,
get governor news some taking a ja a go with

(14:01):
Donald Trump, and this is very concerning, considering two people
try to assassinate him. At least, he said, in terms
of my work out there, I'm raising awareness on around
how Donald Trump is trying to rig the midterm elections
and how I fear that we will not have an
election in twenty twenty eight. I really mean that, and
the court at the core of my soul unless we

(14:23):
wake up to the code, read what's happening in this country,
and we wake up soberly. It's how serious this moment is.
He is telling the world that Donald Trump is a
threat to our republic, and he's just one of many
Democrats who are going down that road now, lacking a
message regarding policy that resonates with the American people. This
is just sort of an amorphous almost worse than the

(14:48):
whole evil Orange man kind of screaming and yelling. They
were talking about him being a racist, misogynist blah blah
blah blahld litany. That doesn't work for them anymore. So
now he's a threat to the republic.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean it's it's the doubling down
on the same kind of rhetoric and you know, getting
getting the left wing base rallied back around the dehumanizing attacks.
You know, it brought up Kamala Harris to in my view,
helped illustrate why we didn't vote for Kamala Harris, but

(15:18):
also just to go out and say more bad things
about Donald Trump and how he's a threat to our
democracy and all this. And you know, they've rolled out
Hillary Clinton. You know, she's she's currently able to do
an interview now and she's out there in the way
at Charlie Church's assassination saying the real threat to society

(15:39):
is you know, white Christian men, you know, white Christian men,
And yeah, I mean I see that that that is
a concern for the Democrat base. They're rapidly losing white
Christian men, but they're losing everybody else too, and so
you know, the dehumanizing stuff goes on, and look in

(16:00):
the wake of a lot of this political violence. Congress
is actually spending more money on security for members. And
you know, I will say, look, I don't know any
member that hasn't had death threats against them, sells their family.
And I was an army ranger. I never heard a
personalized death threat until you know, I got elected to
this job. So kind of the dehumanizing rhetoric is terrible.

(16:24):
It's caused a lot of problems. And look at the
violence just goes on. And look at JD Vance responding
in the media. You know, well, how dare you speculate
about his motives? And like they wrote the motives on
the bullets, so like it's not confusing here as to
what was going on.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, I'm chuckling over the idea that you're getting ready
to fund additional and security for members of Congress and
other elected officials. Not that I don't understand the motivation
behind that, because obviously, in your capacity as an elected official,
we get a lot of death threats. And so to
local political candidates like Corey Bowman is running for mayor,
he gets death threats all the time, common problem. But

(17:04):
are members of Congress that are seeking this money for
their own personal security? Protection. Are any of them of
the defund the police ILK, Because I have that, I
have a difficult time reconciling those concepts.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah. Look, I mean maybe the most crazy crazy person
on defund the police was Corey Bush, you know, Ferguson Missouri,
Saint Louis. Thankfully she's no longer in Congress. Even Ferguson
Missouri said, you know, this lady might just be a
little too crazy. She was the one that when they
said defund the police, and they were trying to tone

(17:38):
it down, like, well, you know, we we don't mean
literally defund the police. She goes to the house Florence
is that, Yeah, that's exactly what we meant, and we're
going to defund the police. But part of the corruption
that she got is she was abusing funds from her campaign,
which is another source of security, and she was paying
her husband as a secure already guys, you know, which

(18:02):
was one of the ethical problems that she was running
to lots of them, But yeah, hypocrisy knows no bounds here.
You know, if there were for double standards, Democrats often
wouldn't have them. But yeah, I mean it is, it's
definitely plenty of hypocrisy on the security funding there, and.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think an insult to every person living in a
troubled crime laden city, including Cincinnati, least some areas. They
are elected officials that are getting their own personal policemen
basically or police personnel on our money, and we don't
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(18:41):
trying to get rid of our police officers are keeping
us at lower contingents. It's it's it's insane, It's absolutely insane.
Congressman Warren Davidson. Always a pleasure having you on the show,
So I'll look forward to doing it again real soon.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah. Likewise, Brian Gov, bless you and all your listeners.

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