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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you ever been in a cockpit before it?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, thirty two on a Thursday means it's time for
iHeart Media aviation expert Jay rat Left, Jay Ratliff, Welcome back,
my friend. Always enjoy talking to you.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good morning. It's it's a meme stock week. You know
the memes are backs.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh, I read a couple of articles about that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yes, yes, yes, just leave them alone. Krispy Kreme open
Door Coles. Yeah, they've been flying up. That social media
frenzy is what drives them up. And Brian, a few
people make a great deal of money, but most everybody
else loses and loses a lot. So if you see
the headlines, just avoid that emotional tug and leave it
alone because they're not good They're not good news.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Isn't it the case that once you see it in
the news, that's whatever meme stock is going through the
roof that you've already missed the opportunity, and if you
invest any money in it, you're going to be in
a downward trajectory in terms of your return.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That's about it. Because it's a pump and dump for
a reason. Yeah, and that's exactly what happens. And you
know you hear your friend bragging about how much money
he made, which may or may not be true, and
you feel like you've missed out. So even though the
stock's up, you know, four hundred and eighteen percent, you know, Brian,
it could go up more. So I'm going to put.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Money in it's right.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No, no, no, no no, it's just that fear of
missing out, that emotional it just tug is just too
much for some people. And you just walk away and
leave me alone. I remember Game Stop four years ago,
that was trading eighteen nineteen dollars a share and it's
peaked a few days later. It was five hundred and
some dollars in pre market before it just came crashing down.
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It's just it's insane. Just just leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, And I guess the key is knowing which meme
stock is going to pop and buying it before it pops.
Who's the insider that knows the answer to that question.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That's why, that's who the sec would be talking to.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I guarantee that when you're talking.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
About manipulate, manipulate the price of a stock. But it's
a lot right now. I mean, forget the memes, we
have somebody stocks right now that are at all time
highs and continue to push higher. The question is, you know,
how much further can these stocks go before there's some
sort of a natural pullback that we that we see
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in stocks. And I'm not one of these individuals that
you know, get on people too hard, but you know,
when they go after stocks at all time highs? Do
they do that with anything else in their life? Do
they go buy cars but only if they're high enough?
Or clothes? No, they got to be a little bit
higher before I buy those. I understand we're talking about investments,
but the whole bit is it's it's totally different than
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what we look at on any other type of purchase.
It's going through the roof, and we still want to
buy it instead of waiting for there to be a
pullback and then buying it at a discount making a
great deal of money. Like Warren Buffett and so many
others do.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well daytrade fund dot coms where you find Jay Ratliffe,
you can learn how to trade stocks and avoid these pitfalls.
And I'll probably get an email maybe an or so
from now, telling Jay telling me how much money he
made while we were having this conversation. Jay ra No,
I get a kick out of it. Honestly, Jay, So
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I think.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
A kick might be the right word if you want
to kick me, But yeah, no, I just.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Give your hard time anytime. Hang on, brother, We got
aviation things to talk about, and I got an update
here an interesting allegation regard of the Indian aircraft incident
that Boeing crash. So we'll talk about that right out
of the gate and get to the topics that he
provided me. Just don't go away, be right back, Hey
thirty eightif about Kercity Talk station Bryan Thomins. When I
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heard med aviation thing for Jay Ratler, I know it's
going to be a long, slong before we finally get
the final report on the Indie aircraft investigation, the June
twelfth craft that involved the engine cut off, and the
question is swirling around that NTSP investigator Greg Fith quoted
as saying, it has become very apparent, especially now with
information I know and what's come out of the cockpit
voice recorder where the question is heard, why did you
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cut off the fuel? That somebody had to have seen
that action to make the statement, So you just wouldn't
have a dual engine failure. He said, something had to
prompt that type of comment. Now we get to the
psychology part of it, and that's really where this investigation
is going to go. And oh, by the way, it's
no longer an accident, it's investigated as a criminal event.
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So that's the direction this Air India crash has turned.
They had another separate investigation. Apparently there was nothing wrong
with the fuel control switches. They worked and operated properly, so,
in other words, they couldn't just be bumped into and
switched off. Given the mechanics of the switch that prevent
that from happening.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, you and I talked about how you have to
grab the switch, pull it up it's the spring loaded,
put it back over the what the middle bumper thing is,
and then slide it back down into the position either
on or off. And it's a deliberate type of thing
that you would consciously do. It wouldn't be something that
you could bump and accidentally happen. And since it's the
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switch that act allows the fuel to flow to the engine, Yeah,
you want it to be designed that way and it is.
So the investigation comes out and they give us the
initial kind of briefing from the cockpit voice recorder showing
that one of the pilots had said to the other,
without naming which one said it, why did you shut
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off the engines as far as the fuel flow? Yeah,
and pass The other one replied, I did not, and
then you kind of hear the raised concern and then panic.
They're turned back on. But the aircraft is such a
low altitude you don't have time for both engines to
fully respond. One was in the process of responding, but
not enough to provide the necessary lift, the second one
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not quite yet. So now you're looking at the possibility
of an accidental oops, I did that, or a deliberate
type of situation. Apparently it was the first officer that
was in charge of the aircraft itself, so the captain
with fifteen thousand flight hours would have been monitoring everything.
He would have been the one that I suspect that
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would have been the one that might have accidentally intentionally,
we don't know, switched the fuel off to both engines
because the first officer would have been involved in the
aircraft itself as far as flying it, so we don't know.
And when you get into intentions or what might have happened,
anything outside of hard, critical evidence, Brian, it's going to
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be impossible for us to determine exactly what happened here.
And that's the saddest part is because the captain was
preparing to retire so he could spend time with his
ailing father and nothing that at least initially suggests any
sort of a mental distress. He had issues with his
mom passing a few years before that required some assistance,
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but I mean, I certainly don't fault anybody for that,
and a lot of people that I've talked to in
the pilot to community are saying, it's really unfair for
us to get this small little snippet from the cockpit
voice recorder instead of the entire recording, as far as
the transcript so that we can see exactly what was
transpiring before that might have alluded to a little bit
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more of this. So it raises a lot more questions.
But the sad reality is absent of a very clear
mechanical situation or something else, we don't know for sure,
and that means that we're not going to be able
to honor the lives of those that were killed by
learning and making aviation safer. It's going to have a
big fat question mark over this because we're just going
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to have to give it our best assessment on what
might probably happen. And when you're talking about the all
star teams that are involved in this type of an investigation,
they want specifics, they want answers, they want both sides
of that balance sheet to come out. And when you
can't provide an answer for a question, it just it
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means forever we're not going to know what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, you know, and maybe that's a a sound reason
for putting video cameras in cockpits, so there's no speculation
as to who did what and when. Yes, the recorder
does indicate that the switch was turned off, but that
doesn't answer the why question or who did it question
that we're talking about and struggling with here, which, as
you indicate, we'll probably never know.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So in Pilot's fight the camera in the cockpit, they
have fought that big time because they're saying it prevents
them or could be used against them in a non
accident type of thing for further later disciplinary action if
something is uncovered or seen or what have you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Right, that's what video cameras are for, Jay, And.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
If you don't own the airline that you work for.
I don't know that you necessarily have a say in this.
But the union's very powerful and they prevented this from happening.
I know that trucks have them, trains have them, other
types of transportation. You know, devices had those, but they've
been able to be kept out of the cockpit. And
to me, yeah, it would add another piece to the puzzle,
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allowing us to see a better picture. And if safety
is really our number one priority, I'm sorry if it
defends pilots, I'm sorry if they find it uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Oh Dan, I don't have any sympathy from them at
all on that standpoint. Were surrounded by Yeah, safety comes first,
the passengers come first. We're deserving of answers to questions
why the damn airplane fell out of the sky. That's
Air Egypt, it's some Malaysian aircraft. I mean, any number
of these, although I guess you couldn't find the video
recorder with the air Malaysian because they couldn't find the
damn plane anyway. Earlier, I guess we had an Antonov
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eight and twenty four plane crash, Russian plane. I know
there were two early on details on this, But you
did see that was reporting a twin turboprop.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, it's the aircraft itself was about fifty years old,
which normally is really an issue in the Enist States
because oh, yeah, fifty it's a twin engine in the
turboprop aircraft. But Brian, like, if I'm not talking Russia,
I'm talking about here in the United States. If you've
got an older airplane, it's constantly being rebuilt, the engines,
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I mean, every aspect of it. Now, when we're talking
about a Russian plane that old, who knows. Because they've
had a situation with replacement parts and things that have
been in part because of the embargo. They've had a
very hard time finding parts because when the war with
Ukraine broke out, there were a lot of suppliers that
stopped selling them replacement parts, so they had to kind
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of candle up campbalize parts from other aircraft hoping that
they would fit kind of thing, what have you. But
on this particular one, there's a video of the aircraft
apparently in operation over the mountains moments before the crash,
and there did not appear to be any indications of
operational distress. Both engines seem to be running, no smoke
coming from the aircraft anything like that, but apparently crashed
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into a mountain about nine miles from the airport. They
had a total of forty three passengers six crew members,
so a total we're total of forty nine souls on board.
The video of the wreckage site. Uh, I mean there
could be survivors, but we don't know because there's not
much left. But it's just a situation where you know,
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it's hard to reach where this was at, and they're
going to get there and conduct the search and rescue
and then it'll turn into a recovery mission after that.
But h I don't know exactly what that cause was.
But Brian, I don't think you could consciously get me
onto a Russian airport of any kind.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Anywhere fair enough. They're keeping them in the air of
the way Boeing manufactures them, going to the spare parts
pack that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Would connect those dots. But I can tell you that,
I mean, their their safety record has just not been
as comfortable as we would like it to be. And
it's just it's a situation that it's just if I'm
going to err on the side of caution and I'm
going to and in every aspect that I can, getting
on board a Russian airliner is just not something I'm
going to do.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Low order a priority for Jay Ratlift. Let's pause and
bring you find out what text? What is a Family
on the Fly program? We'll talk about that a couple
more topics where we part company this morning, stick around,
be right back. Fifty five KRC the talk station a neighbor,
Oh my god, eight fifty here fig about their CD
talk station in Bronzana is doing this thing we call
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Aviation Day with I heard met the aviation next birth
Jay Ratliffe. Jay, flipping over to some topics you provided
Family on the Fly program. The TSA did this. What's this?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's a separate line for families screening line at the airport.
It's a it's going to be a trial situation first
or rolling it out in Charlotte and I believe Orlando
where those with families can go to this specific line.
There's a little bit more room as parents many times
need with their kids traveling, and it's designed for people
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that are flying with families, maybe they haven't flown that
much whatever, and it's going to be a little bit
slower of a process. But what it does it kind
of gets everybody that's flying with kids over in one spot,
so that the men and women that are flying on
business that kind of zip through security to do so
without being behind a lot of people that maybe would
slow things. Now. It's a great move from the TSA.
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In fact, it's one of those things like ge, why
didn't we think about this before? Because it's going to
be good for the families and it's going to be
good for others as they kind of get through the
security checkpoint. So I'm thrilled to see it. I think
they've got another line that's being made available for the
military as well. Those types of things. The TSA is
always looking to try to expedite the process of getting
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us through the security checkpoint. And it's a really good
one because it's going to make things a little bit easier,
especially with people flying with kids. I know a lot
of times those of us with kids, if they start
to slow things back, we feel guilty because we're slowing
the process behind us. This is going to alleviate some
of that, and I think it's going to be very
well received. Again, those two airports first and then after that,
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it's going to spread out to other airports across the
country once some of the bugs it worked.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Out, all right, Well, I kind of had I wanted
to ask you about this Delta regional jet and had
to what duck, dip, dodge, dive and duck to get
out of the way of a B fifty two bomber.
What's what happened here?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, the B fifty two was doing a fly by
over a fare and anytime that's done, they communicate that
long in advance with federal AB's administration. Here's our plans,
here's our flight plan. All of it's approved, and typically,
you know, the local airports made aware of it, and
you know everybody's on the same page. It was not
the case here because apparently the regional jet was where
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it should be should have been, and the military aircraft
was flying on its predetermined and approved flight path. So
all of a sudden you have the regional pilots the
Delta Commuter regional jet look up and they see this
aircraft off to the side, thing of WHOA, what's going
on here? Weren't expecting that, and there was a little
bit of confusion from air traffic control. The there which
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is not better employees. It's a separate company that manages
that particular one on exactly the course that the regional
jet needed to take, and it was the Delta captain
that took the initiative to take that airplane in essence,
fly back behind the B fifty two as it passed,
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and it was a pretty severe bank when you listened
to the passengers that were on board the flight, and
you know, they turned around and got back in line
and land, and when they did, the Delta pilot came
on board and told the passengers, okay, here's why we
had to do what we did, and was very transparent,
and the people on board the flight were very appreciative
of that because they knew something had happened, they just
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didn't know what. And the captain of it was its
Endeavor Air. It's a flight operating as a Delta connection.
The captain explained, look, that's not normal, that normally doesn't happen,
and apologized for some of those anxious moments. But you know, again,
a very good job and we can learn from this,
which again makes aviation safer absent of anybody getting hurt
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or killed, and that's always a good thing.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, I imagine it shocked the hell out of when
the piles looked over and saw a B fifty two
right there, Well that plane.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
That are looking at the window saying I can see
the ground straight down because they were tipped I mean
a pretty good angle when he was banking that bad boy.
But you know, these men and women that the fly
these planes are I mean a lot of them are
former military and very well trained, and you know, they
just respond, they react and they don't sit there and think.
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And you know, it's a situation where you know, they
do what they need to do and they understand they've
got other people's lives at their you know, in their hands,
and they've got to do everything that they can to
protect the people, the souls on board the aircraft. So yeah,
they did a good job. And again there was a
breakdown in communication somewhere. I S'll just have to find
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out where it was at. But you know, we're so
so not so far removed from that January since situation
where we have the helicopter crash of the helicopter in
the regional aircraft is like, you know, who shut her?
Here we go again. But you know, it ended well
and we're gonna learn from.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It real quick.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Here.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
What's it like for travel out there today? Air travel?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know, from a thunderstorm stampoint, we get a lot
of storms. They're going to be like you know, giving
New Orleans and Des Moines, Iowa Ago. But as far
as from a hut standpoint, not really much out there.
Those afternoon aggravating thunderstorms that are popping up all over
the place that are slowing things down by thirty to
forty five minutes, but Brian, they're minimal. So if you
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picked today to fly, you picked a good one. There's
going to be some turbulence out there as you fly,
just keep your seat belt on. It's not dangerous, just uncomfortable.
And yeah, get to the airport early because we got
a lot of people that are flying.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Jay Rall, thanks so much for the time you spent
my listeners and me every Thursday, and best of health.
Loved you and your better half. I'll look forward to
next Thursday and another great discussion.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Brian my feelings as well, So I have a great
thank you brother.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
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Joe Strecker out today. Joe, We'll be back tomorrow and
tomorrow we'll also hear from Dave Hatter, Tech Friday and
Senator John Houston on a variety of current topics. That's
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