September 25, 2025 • 19 mins
Brian is joined by iHeart aviation expert Jay Ratliff about some of the latest aviation stories.
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Thirty fifty have Kercity Talk Station A very happy Thursday,
always happy at this moment in time because we could
hear from my heart Meaty Aviation expert Jay or Rat,
Welcome back to the show, Jay, my dear friend. It's
great having you on today.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh, it's a pleasure to be back, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
People with laser pointers again, When are they gonna last?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
What's happening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
There's a guy that's walking down the street, no shirt,
kind of talking to himself, acting a little bit of
radic There's a law enforcement officer on the other side
of the street, gets his flashlight kind of flashes that
had him to get his attention at night, and this
guy pulls out one of those high powered lasers that
you know people point at aircraft and stuff like that
that we've talked about, and he points it back at
the officer, kind of hits him in the chest type
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of thing. And these things can put your eyes out
if you're not careful. Well, there's a helicopter flying over
and I guess he's going to try to distract the
officer by shining this high powered handheld laser. It's the
helicopter going by happened to be Marine one. Oh no,
you talk about having a bad day, Yeah, you're about
to have a bad day. Within seconds, this guy is
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tackled by a number of Secret Service agents telling him
what he did. This guy's apologizing like he's a Trump voter.
He goes, Hi, I'm so sorry. It's not gonna help, brother,
You're in trouble, and off they took him.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So, you know, if you've.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Got that segment of you know you're having a bad day, win, Yes,
this would certainly fit that well.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The idea he put a laser point out when he
was been confronted by law enforcement. Hell, law enforcement officer
might have thought that was a laser an adounded firearm.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Absolutely, the guy's lucky to be alive.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And yeah, you can have a lot of time to
think about it because normally you can't catch the individuals
that point these high powered lasers that can temporarily blind
a flight crew at a critical moment of flight. We
talk about that all the time. How even pilots have
lost vision because of these attacks, and why people want
to point him at aircraft, I'll never understand. But the
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crew is not in a position to inform air traffic
control that can in form law enforcement where.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
These idiots are at.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So most of the time it takes somebody on the
ground seeing it happen that can call law enforcement and say, hey,
this person's doing this before they get caught.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So the vast.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Majority of these people never ever, you know, pay for
their consequences. This guy just pointed at the wrong aircraft,
and you talk about a story that they're going to
enjoy in prison, that's going to be it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are you the guy that ye word idiots doing idiot
things because they're idiots?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Said that would be the top of my list this week.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Brother, I'm telling you cosmic crapshoot of life, bad day
with a question. You think about it, what is the
likelihood that you're ever even going to see in your
lifetime that helicopter fly overhead?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, and the presdent just happened to be a board
marine won and you dapt it.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So yeah, people are going to kind.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Of notice that. That's awesome. Let's stick around more with
Jay rightlift. First, I'm gonna mention again for this morning,
Gate of Heaven Cemetery. You know, we could all use
a trankful peaceful, relaxing, gorgeous and environment to reflect on
the beauty of life. And that's why Gate of Heaven
Cemetery is there. This is since an serving the SINCEI
Christian community for like seventy seven years. The idea is
to honor life. That's the goal there, honoring life on
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sacred ground. Contemplate the brevity of life. I can do
that at a cemetery, that's for sure, But think about birth,
think about life s milestones and then of course passing
on to eternal life. This I think grounds you in
your day to day life. So pray, reflect, meditate. It's
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fifty five KRC. More than a few of our patients
have talked to me. Have you ever been in the
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cockpit before? Jay Ratliff has the's iHeartMedia Aviation expert, and
we're going to move on. Apparently you found a friend
in the Senate. Jay Rattlers, Well.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
If we can call Democrat Senator Richard Blumenthal friend, Well
I will this.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Hey, you asked, I told you one instance.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Even the stop clock.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yes, but he he came out saying that this three
point one million dollar fine that Boeing was hit with,
we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's define the.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Federal Aviation Administration UH imposed on Boeing for the Alaska
Airlines door plug incident. A lot of safety violations that occurred.
Boeing knowingly allowed this stuff to happen. They're hit with
this three point one million dollar fine, which you know
I'd been talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Was disappointing to me.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And the Senator's coming out saying, wait a minute, unless
the penalties rise, as he says, to the level that
forces the company to in essence change, the risk of
the flying public is going to maintain or persist. And
certainly that's the case. And I called the three point
one million dollar fine lunch money for Boeing. And it's
really unfortunate that again a company that has admitted five
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years back until just recently that yes, we knew we
were doing things wrong, and at one time they admitted
criminal misconduct. They're allowed to continue to kind of do that.
And I'm sorry, a three million dollar fine on a
multi billion dollar company is not going to be something
that's going to cause them in the boardroom to sit
up and go, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We've got a change note.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I'm sure that even though I've not read this,
that there's something in there that the FAA is put
in saying if there's future violations, you know, we might
find you more.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And I'd be like, what six million?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's just ridiculous that Boeing far too often seems to
have a lot more control over what happens to them
than other companies. And I'm sure a lot of it
has to do with, you know, ja speculation here the
government defensive contracts that they have.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm not even going
to say you're speculating, jay On. They have some power
control because we're beholden to them for so much of
our military hardware.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We are, And it's just, you know, when I think
how close we came to somebody dying in that Alaska
a situation where that door plug fell off you had
the massive immediate decompression that was so severe that, yes,
it ripped a teenager's shirt off. This guy's sitting there
and boom off his shirt goes out the door or
the whole of the aircraft. As this air is rushing out.
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You have the secured cockpit door that nobody can get
through that is blown open because of that pressure change.
It's obvious. I mean, you could even talk to the
person next to you without texting so they could read.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was so loud.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And the idea that nobody on a packed airplane was
sitting in a window seat, you got to be kidding me.
Every packed airplane has a window seat with somebody sitting
in it, if nothing else, just to kind of get
out of the way that seat no one was there.
Had it been, I'm sure that person would have been
sucked out the door. So it's just it's amazing that
only Boeing five years ago had the two Boeing Max
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crashes that killed more than three hundred and forty people
because of things they intentionally did and withheld from the FAA,
from pilots and from airlines.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's the same stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And that's why when I'm asked today, J do believe
Boeing's words of promise. I'm like, absolutely not. I was
an idiot to do it five years ago, and they
proved to me that they weren't really interested in changing.
Now hopefully they've turned that corner, and I'll tell you
in five years what I think. But right now, I
do not trust Boeing to do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I just they got so damn lucky that no one
was there. It's just when they described that situation, the
fact that it was a pack plane and the horrific
violent reaction of that immediate depressurization. I had, somewhere along
the lines either forgotten or overlooked the fact that the
cockpit door flew open. I did not know that that
would happen. So that's and you know.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
All the things in the cockpit that were not tied down.
You had flight man was at a bunch of different paper,
and I.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Mean, it goes up flying. It's kind of in the
way of the crew, and.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
They don't know if there was a bomb that went off.
I mean, you're on the flight deck and all of
a sudden you have that immediate you're immediately thinking something's
blown up somewhere. And do we have the ability to
land this crippled aircraft and try to save the lives
of those that remain on board. You don't know how
many people just died in the back. You've got all
of this uncertainty that's ongoing, and the crew did a
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great job of getting that airplane on the ground. They
couldn't communicate with any of their flight attendants because of
the noise as far as what was ongoing. They're dotting
oxygen mask and they're going through their emergency procedures. It
was horrific and I'm sure the PTSD for the people
on that plane is going to be something that's gonna
be with them for the rest of their lives. Why
because Boeing allowed some safety issues that they knew were
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going on to continue. And why because, for their own admission,
when it was a criminal investigation, they allowed the airplanes
to be rushed through production to try to get them
out the door.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And Brian, when you talking about Boeing.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Who used to set the standard for safety, is telling
their employees, we're out of parts for this specific part
of the aircraft. Go to the rejected part. Ben, find
the best failed part, and let's put it on this
aircraft so we can keep it going through the production line.
That's stupid, but it happened over and over and over again,
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to the point you had dozens of employees coming forward saying, look,
I don't want to be a part of the next disaster, right,
this is happening and it needs to stop.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, I don't want to be part of the next
disaster either, Jay. So, with a little bit of reluctance
to even ask the question, did they go back and
go over all of those airplanes that they previously put
together to find out they were going to be failed
parts put in them?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I would love to say yes, and then I would
love to say Boeing said yes, And then I would
say I'd love to say Boeing was correct when they
said yes, I wouldn't. I don't believe a word that
comes out of their mouth. So if they said yes,
you know, every single part has a part number to it,
so the FAA could look in see if they knew
which ones. But you know they went back and looked
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like for the training logs and the different things for
the door plug, to see exactly you know, who was
in charge, who was overseeing those kinds of things, and Brian, would.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You believe that stuff disappeared? Oh my god, they can't
find it.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh, just that's that's what adds it even further increases
my blood pressure because of the arrogance of somebody saying, well,
we'll just get rid of the evidence and it won't
be an issue. And yeah, they pay three million dollars, fine, woho,
that'll share change their behavior.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Did they look in the sub basement storage room for
burn bag documents?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's just absolute nuts.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But it continues to happen, and it's only by the
grace of God something hasn't happened. And you have Boeing employees.
And I'm not among this group that will not get
on their own airplane.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I have no problem.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'll get on a Boeing aircraft. I'll take my kids,
my grandkids, my mom, sharing, I mean, we'll fly. And
so I'm not at the point where I'm there. But
when I hear them talking about that, there there's always
a concern. And anytime we have an aviation disaster around
the world that involves a Boeing aircraft, either a fatality
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or just an accident, I'm thinking, was this caused by
a faulty part and hopefully not and uh, but again,
we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Have to wait and see.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But it's just really, really unfortunate that Boeing again, and
I totally totally agree with Richard Blumenthal, and I'm sure
there may be some political you know, uh positioning on
him on this, I hope not, but he's simply saying
Boeing wasn't you know, held accountable as they should have been,
And I believe he's totally correct.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I believe you're right. So let's part with a sort
of rhetorical question. Would you eat in a restaurant where
the employees refuse to eat the food there?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's an excellent observation, my friend, and one of the
many you.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Continue to make.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And it's it's very accurate because you know, we had
we had the whistleblower that was a supervisor that was
testifying exactly what was happening. He did day one and
day two he's getting ready to come back and commit suicide.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Hillary near him at the time. That happened exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you know, the police investigated, and you know, they
confirmed that's what it was. It may have been who knows,
but it and all that did was infuriate a lot
of other people that were on the sidelines and said, look,
this isn't standing. And they stepped forward when they hadn't
planned on it, and they said, I will testify as
far as what's going on. So you know, there's just
a lot of stuff that's ongoing. We've been talking about
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it for the last five six years, both issues, and
I really never thought it would continue to this point.
I thought they would see those two crashes, the families
that were destroyed by their criminal behavior, and turned things around.
But they weren't led by engineers. They were led by
being counters that were looking for ways to cut corners,
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regardless many times of the consequences.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And I thought, man, if you can't, if that's a
wake up call to change.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You're never ever, ever, ever going to get a wake
up call to change. So I don't know. I hope
years down the road.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
We can look back and shared drink and say, you
know what, thank God nothing ever happened, because that's what
I hope will be the case. But Brian, I'm not
convinced that something won't.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And that's you can't take sure you can't be. They
set the stage for something more to happen. Let's continue
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finishing up a fridaye with Jay Ralph, as is always
the case, some interesting stories here and I'm surprised he
didn't die. I saw the story Jay, and I figured
you're going to bring it up today. The team that
stowed stowed away in a wheel well of an aircraft
for an hour and a half flight and he lived.
I mean, we're talking about like no oxygen and sub
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zero temperatures up there, aren't we.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, fifty degrees below zero? No you Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Typically eighty percent of the people that try to catch
a ride on an aircraft in a wheel well perish.
They either get crushed by the wheel as it's retracted,
they freeze to death, or lack of oxygen kills them.
And in this particular situation, the kid crawls up into
this coming out of cobble and he's thinking he's going
to Iran. The flight actually goes to New Delhi and
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lands and the team is discovered as a thirteen.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Year old and he's alive.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And I think part of it was the fact that
it was a shorter flight ninety minutes, so you've got
a little bit of the residual heat off the landing
gears that were tracts. It's going to last for minutes,
not long, and you know, and then you've got the
situation where you've got the climb and then the descent,
so those particular times are not as cold and they're
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still oxygen. So the cruising part of the air of
the flight was shorter than others. And I think that
even if you start to get to the point where
you suffer from a lack of oxygen or you start
to freeze to death, your body slows down and sometimes
as it does, that allows you to survive some of
these extreme situations for a short period of time. I
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think had this been a longer flight, it wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Of course, anytime this happens, it's like, okay, I'm glad,
the kid's okay, But where was the security at the
airport at the originating standpoint? And we've had this here
in the United States, where people stole away on flights
here in the country to go from a city to
another city. And I'm thinking, how does an individual stroll
across an active tarmac with everybody around, all the cameras,
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all the security, and still is able to crawl into
the wheelwell of an aircraft with anybody noticing. Now, sometimes
at the end of the runway, when you have aircraft
that are preparing to take off, it is away from
a lot of people. The aircraft can be approached from behind,
so nobody's going to see it. And that's where we
need to have some enhanced security. Now, some airports do
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and won't talk about what they do and don't have,
but Brian, we need to do a better job. I mean,
had this been a terrorist, not a fifteen year old,
ye could have put anything they wanted up there.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And what walked away.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He walked there and detected, so I'm sure he could.
And if the person had something strapped to their body,
they're not going through the airport's security checkpoint, They're they're
they're accessing the aircraft from another part of the airfield
and you just it just happens way too often, and
sadly as it does, individuals end up dying. But again,
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if it's from a terrorist standpoint, it's just scary.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What could have taken.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Place, no doubt about it. That's the scariest part about this.
I don't care about the idiot teenager. I care about
the nefarious actor, and you just hit the nail on
the head on the problem. This illustrates Jay right left.
We always in on hub delays. Let's do that today.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I've got a lot of weather sadly, that's moving towards
the northeast, and that's going to give us some headaches.
That's going to be taking place. So if you're going
to be heading to the airport today and you're heading
towards the northeast, you are going to see some issues.
We'll already see some delays right now that are taking
place in New York, d C. Philadelphia, and Boston as well,
and those are just going to continue throughout.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
The course of the day.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
New Orleans is not a hub, but certainly expect to
see some delays if you're headed to that destination. You
may be headed out west and think you're okay, and
that may be the case unless that aircraft is routed
through one of these affected areas. So please get to
the airport minimum of two hours before departure, so that
if there is a problem with your flight, the agents
have at least an opportunity to get it fixed well
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in advance of your scheduled departure.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I appreciate you, Jay Raydliff, I appreciate our conversations every week.
I'm already looking forward to another one next Thursday again
at eight thirty. My brother, have a wonderful weekend and
best of health and loved you in your better half.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I appreciate it. Brian to you as well, Sair, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Thank you man. If you can't get a chance to listen,
a love. Congressman Warren Davidson on the program this morning,
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Thirty fifty have Kercity Talk Station A very happy Thursday,
always happy at this moment in time because we could
hear from my heart Meaty Aviation expert Jay or Rat,
Welcome back to the show, Jay, my dear friend. It's
great having you on today.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh, it's a pleasure to be back, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
People with laser pointers again, When are they gonna last?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
What's happening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
There's a guy that's walking down the street, no shirt,
kind of talking to himself, acting a little bit of
radic There's a law enforcement officer on the other side
of the street, gets his flashlight kind of flashes that
had him to get his attention at night, and this
guy pulls out one of those high powered lasers that
you know people point at aircraft and stuff like that
that we've talked about, and he points it back at
the officer, kind of hits him in the chest type
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of thing. And these things can put your eyes out
if you're not careful. Well, there's a helicopter flying over
and I guess he's going to try to distract the
officer by shining this high powered handheld laser. It's the
helicopter going by happened to be Marine one. Oh no,
you talk about having a bad day, Yeah, you're about
to have a bad day. Within seconds, this guy is
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tackled by a number of Secret Service agents telling him
what he did. This guy's apologizing like he's a Trump voter.
He goes, Hi, I'm so sorry. It's not gonna help, brother,
You're in trouble, and off they took him.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So, you know, if you've.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Got that segment of you know you're having a bad day, win, Yes,
this would certainly fit that well.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The idea he put a laser point out when he
was been confronted by law enforcement. Hell, law enforcement officer
might have thought that was a laser an adounded firearm.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Absolutely, the guy's lucky to be alive.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And yeah, you can have a lot of time to
think about it because normally you can't catch the individuals
that point these high powered lasers that can temporarily blind
a flight crew at a critical moment of flight. We
talk about that all the time. How even pilots have
lost vision because of these attacks, and why people want
to point him at aircraft, I'll never understand. But the
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crew is not in a position to inform air traffic
control that can in form law enforcement where.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
These idiots are at.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So most of the time it takes somebody on the
ground seeing it happen that can call law enforcement and say, hey,
this person's doing this before they get caught.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So the vast.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Majority of these people never ever, you know, pay for
their consequences. This guy just pointed at the wrong aircraft,
and you talk about a story that they're going to
enjoy in prison, that's going to be it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are you the guy that ye word idiots doing idiot
things because they're idiots?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Said that would be the top of my list this week.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Brother, I'm telling you cosmic crapshoot of life, bad day
with a question. You think about it, what is the
likelihood that you're ever even going to see in your
lifetime that helicopter fly overhead?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, and the presdent just happened to be a board
marine won and you dapt it.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So yeah, people are going to kind.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Of notice that. That's awesome. Let's stick around more with
Jay rightlift. First, I'm gonna mention again for this morning,
Gate of Heaven Cemetery. You know, we could all use
a trankful peaceful, relaxing, gorgeous and environment to reflect on
the beauty of life. And that's why Gate of Heaven
Cemetery is there. This is since an serving the SINCEI
Christian community for like seventy seven years. The idea is
to honor life. That's the goal there, honoring life on
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sacred ground. Contemplate the brevity of life. I can do
that at a cemetery, that's for sure, But think about birth,
think about life s milestones and then of course passing
on to eternal life. This I think grounds you in
your day to day life. So pray, reflect, meditate. It's
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have talked to me. Have you ever been in the
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cockpit before? Jay Ratliff has the's iHeartMedia Aviation expert, and
we're going to move on. Apparently you found a friend
in the Senate. Jay Rattlers, Well.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
If we can call Democrat Senator Richard Blumenthal friend, Well
I will this.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Hey, you asked, I told you one instance.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Even the stop clock.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yes, but he he came out saying that this three
point one million dollar fine that Boeing was hit with,
we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's define the.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Federal Aviation Administration UH imposed on Boeing for the Alaska
Airlines door plug incident. A lot of safety violations that occurred.
Boeing knowingly allowed this stuff to happen. They're hit with
this three point one million dollar fine, which you know
I'd been talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Was disappointing to me.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And the Senator's coming out saying, wait a minute, unless
the penalties rise, as he says, to the level that
forces the company to in essence change, the risk of
the flying public is going to maintain or persist. And
certainly that's the case. And I called the three point
one million dollar fine lunch money for Boeing. And it's
really unfortunate that again a company that has admitted five
(05:10):
years back until just recently that yes, we knew we
were doing things wrong, and at one time they admitted
criminal misconduct. They're allowed to continue to kind of do that.
And I'm sorry, a three million dollar fine on a
multi billion dollar company is not going to be something
that's going to cause them in the boardroom to sit
up and go, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We've got a change note.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I'm sure that even though I've not read this,
that there's something in there that the FAA is put
in saying if there's future violations, you know, we might
find you more.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And I'd be like, what six million?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's just ridiculous that Boeing far too often seems to
have a lot more control over what happens to them
than other companies. And I'm sure a lot of it
has to do with, you know, ja speculation here the
government defensive contracts that they have.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm not even going
to say you're speculating, jay On. They have some power
control because we're beholden to them for so much of
our military hardware.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We are, And it's just, you know, when I think
how close we came to somebody dying in that Alaska
a situation where that door plug fell off you had
the massive immediate decompression that was so severe that, yes,
it ripped a teenager's shirt off. This guy's sitting there
and boom off his shirt goes out the door or
the whole of the aircraft. As this air is rushing out.
(06:26):
You have the secured cockpit door that nobody can get
through that is blown open because of that pressure change.
It's obvious. I mean, you could even talk to the
person next to you without texting so they could read.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was so loud.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And the idea that nobody on a packed airplane was
sitting in a window seat, you got to be kidding me.
Every packed airplane has a window seat with somebody sitting
in it, if nothing else, just to kind of get
out of the way that seat no one was there.
Had it been, I'm sure that person would have been
sucked out the door. So it's just it's amazing that
only Boeing five years ago had the two Boeing Max
(07:02):
crashes that killed more than three hundred and forty people
because of things they intentionally did and withheld from the FAA,
from pilots and from airlines.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's the same stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And that's why when I'm asked today, J do believe
Boeing's words of promise. I'm like, absolutely not. I was
an idiot to do it five years ago, and they
proved to me that they weren't really interested in changing.
Now hopefully they've turned that corner, and I'll tell you
in five years what I think. But right now, I
do not trust Boeing to do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I just they got so damn lucky that no one
was there. It's just when they described that situation, the
fact that it was a pack plane and the horrific
violent reaction of that immediate depressurization. I had, somewhere along
the lines either forgotten or overlooked the fact that the
cockpit door flew open. I did not know that that
would happen. So that's and you know.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
All the things in the cockpit that were not tied down.
You had flight man was at a bunch of different paper,
and I.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Mean, it goes up flying. It's kind of in the
way of the crew, and.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
They don't know if there was a bomb that went off.
I mean, you're on the flight deck and all of
a sudden you have that immediate you're immediately thinking something's
blown up somewhere. And do we have the ability to
land this crippled aircraft and try to save the lives
of those that remain on board. You don't know how
many people just died in the back. You've got all
of this uncertainty that's ongoing, and the crew did a
(08:23):
great job of getting that airplane on the ground. They
couldn't communicate with any of their flight attendants because of
the noise as far as what was ongoing. They're dotting
oxygen mask and they're going through their emergency procedures. It
was horrific and I'm sure the PTSD for the people
on that plane is going to be something that's gonna
be with them for the rest of their lives. Why
because Boeing allowed some safety issues that they knew were
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going on to continue. And why because, for their own admission,
when it was a criminal investigation, they allowed the airplanes
to be rushed through production to try to get them
out the door.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And Brian, when you talking about Boeing.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Who used to set the standard for safety, is telling
their employees, we're out of parts for this specific part
of the aircraft. Go to the rejected part. Ben, find
the best failed part, and let's put it on this
aircraft so we can keep it going through the production line.
That's stupid, but it happened over and over and over again,
(09:22):
to the point you had dozens of employees coming forward saying, look,
I don't want to be a part of the next disaster, right,
this is happening and it needs to stop.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, I don't want to be part of the next
disaster either, Jay. So, with a little bit of reluctance
to even ask the question, did they go back and
go over all of those airplanes that they previously put
together to find out they were going to be failed
parts put in them?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I would love to say yes, and then I would
love to say Boeing said yes, And then I would
say I'd love to say Boeing was correct when they
said yes, I wouldn't. I don't believe a word that
comes out of their mouth. So if they said yes,
you know, every single part has a part number to it,
so the FAA could look in see if they knew
which ones. But you know they went back and looked
(10:03):
like for the training logs and the different things for
the door plug, to see exactly you know, who was
in charge, who was overseeing those kinds of things, and Brian, would.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You believe that stuff disappeared? Oh my god, they can't
find it.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh, just that's that's what adds it even further increases
my blood pressure because of the arrogance of somebody saying, well,
we'll just get rid of the evidence and it won't
be an issue. And yeah, they pay three million dollars, fine, woho,
that'll share change their behavior.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Did they look in the sub basement storage room for
burn bag documents?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's just absolute nuts.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But it continues to happen, and it's only by the
grace of God something hasn't happened. And you have Boeing employees.
And I'm not among this group that will not get
on their own airplane.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I have no problem.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'll get on a Boeing aircraft. I'll take my kids,
my grandkids, my mom, sharing, I mean, we'll fly. And
so I'm not at the point where I'm there. But
when I hear them talking about that, there there's always
a concern. And anytime we have an aviation disaster around
the world that involves a Boeing aircraft, either a fatality
(11:12):
or just an accident, I'm thinking, was this caused by
a faulty part and hopefully not and uh, but again,
we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Have to wait and see.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But it's just really, really unfortunate that Boeing again, and
I totally totally agree with Richard Blumenthal, and I'm sure
there may be some political you know, uh positioning on
him on this, I hope not, but he's simply saying
Boeing wasn't you know, held accountable as they should have been,
And I believe he's totally correct.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I believe you're right. So let's part with a sort
of rhetorical question. Would you eat in a restaurant where
the employees refuse to eat the food there?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's an excellent observation, my friend, and one of the
many you.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Continue to make.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And it's it's very accurate because you know, we had
we had the whistleblower that was a supervisor that was
testifying exactly what was happening. He did day one and
day two he's getting ready to come back and commit suicide.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Hillary near him at the time. That happened exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you know, the police investigated, and you know, they
confirmed that's what it was. It may have been who knows,
but it and all that did was infuriate a lot
of other people that were on the sidelines and said, look,
this isn't standing. And they stepped forward when they hadn't
planned on it, and they said, I will testify as
far as what's going on. So you know, there's just
a lot of stuff that's ongoing. We've been talking about
(12:33):
it for the last five six years, both issues, and
I really never thought it would continue to this point.
I thought they would see those two crashes, the families
that were destroyed by their criminal behavior, and turned things around.
But they weren't led by engineers. They were led by
being counters that were looking for ways to cut corners,
(12:54):
regardless many times of the consequences.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And I thought, man, if you can't, if that's a
wake up call to change.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You're never ever, ever, ever going to get a wake
up call to change. So I don't know. I hope
years down the road.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
We can look back and shared drink and say, you
know what, thank God nothing ever happened, because that's what
I hope will be the case. But Brian, I'm not
convinced that something won't.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And that's you can't take sure you can't be. They
set the stage for something more to happen. Let's continue
with Jay ratlif with a quick break. You'd be right
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Speaker 2 (14:21):
Hey, if you want to pick about Karsde talk station
finishing up a fridaye with Jay Ralph, as is always
the case, some interesting stories here and I'm surprised he
didn't die. I saw the story Jay, and I figured
you're going to bring it up today. The team that
stowed stowed away in a wheel well of an aircraft
for an hour and a half flight and he lived.
I mean, we're talking about like no oxygen and sub
(14:42):
zero temperatures up there, aren't we.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, fifty degrees below zero? No you Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Typically eighty percent of the people that try to catch
a ride on an aircraft in a wheel well perish.
They either get crushed by the wheel as it's retracted,
they freeze to death, or lack of oxygen kills them.
And in this particular situation, the kid crawls up into
this coming out of cobble and he's thinking he's going
to Iran. The flight actually goes to New Delhi and
(15:10):
lands and the team is discovered as a thirteen.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Year old and he's alive.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And I think part of it was the fact that
it was a shorter flight ninety minutes, so you've got
a little bit of the residual heat off the landing
gears that were tracts. It's going to last for minutes,
not long, and you know, and then you've got the
situation where you've got the climb and then the descent,
so those particular times are not as cold and they're
(15:37):
still oxygen. So the cruising part of the air of
the flight was shorter than others. And I think that
even if you start to get to the point where
you suffer from a lack of oxygen or you start
to freeze to death, your body slows down and sometimes
as it does, that allows you to survive some of
these extreme situations for a short period of time. I
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think had this been a longer flight, it wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Of course, anytime this happens, it's like, okay, I'm glad,
the kid's okay, But where was the security at the
airport at the originating standpoint? And we've had this here
in the United States, where people stole away on flights
here in the country to go from a city to
another city. And I'm thinking, how does an individual stroll
across an active tarmac with everybody around, all the cameras,
(16:24):
all the security, and still is able to crawl into
the wheelwell of an aircraft with anybody noticing. Now, sometimes
at the end of the runway, when you have aircraft
that are preparing to take off, it is away from
a lot of people. The aircraft can be approached from behind,
so nobody's going to see it. And that's where we
need to have some enhanced security. Now, some airports do
(16:45):
and won't talk about what they do and don't have,
but Brian, we need to do a better job. I mean,
had this been a terrorist, not a fifteen year old,
ye could have put anything they wanted up there.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And what walked away.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He walked there and detected, so I'm sure he could.
And if the person had something strapped to their body,
they're not going through the airport's security checkpoint, They're they're
they're accessing the aircraft from another part of the airfield
and you just it just happens way too often, and
sadly as it does, individuals end up dying. But again,
(17:15):
if it's from a terrorist standpoint, it's just scary.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What could have taken.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Place, no doubt about it. That's the scariest part about this.
I don't care about the idiot teenager. I care about
the nefarious actor, and you just hit the nail on
the head on the problem. This illustrates Jay right left.
We always in on hub delays. Let's do that today.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I've got a lot of weather sadly, that's moving towards
the northeast, and that's going to give us some headaches.
That's going to be taking place. So if you're going
to be heading to the airport today and you're heading
towards the northeast, you are going to see some issues.
We'll already see some delays right now that are taking
place in New York, d C. Philadelphia, and Boston as well,
and those are just going to continue throughout.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
The course of the day.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
New Orleans is not a hub, but certainly expect to
see some delays if you're headed to that destination. You
may be headed out west and think you're okay, and
that may be the case unless that aircraft is routed
through one of these affected areas. So please get to
the airport minimum of two hours before departure, so that
if there is a problem with your flight, the agents
have at least an opportunity to get it fixed well
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in advance of your scheduled departure.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I appreciate you, Jay Raydliff, I appreciate our conversations every week.
I'm already looking forward to another one next Thursday again
at eight thirty. My brother, have a wonderful weekend and
best of health and loved you in your better half.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I appreciate it. Brian to you as well, Sair, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Thank you man. If you can't get a chance to listen,
a love. Congressman Warren Davidson on the program this morning,
and interesting conversation with Congressman Davidson sort of free form.
Daniel Flynn's got a wild book. A guy you've never
heard of. Most everybody has it, including me, and I
admitted it to him. The man who invented conservatism. Check
out that book at fifty five case dot com. A
man who influenced Reagan and Goldwater and Will Buckley. It's
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a pretty wild thing. Dan talked all about it in
this book and Jay Rayle, of course my conversation there
fifty five KRC dot com. Sean McMahon, thank you for
covering for the vacationing Joe strekor you did a great
job today. Tune in tomorrow. Got a big show lined
up as always, Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. We're gonna
be hearing from George Breunman and Keith Tennenfeld about restoring
your wellness. Phil Kirpin, President American Commitment on stopping climbing craziness.
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from Heart for Seniors. That's on the Morning show tomorrow,
So tune in then, have a wonderful day. Stick around
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