April 8, 2025 • 15 mins
Brian is joined by Oliver Lane of Breitbart News to talk about what is happening in Europe and what it means for the United States.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
To shaibto five and fifty five KRCV talk station, A
very happy Tuesday to you. We're gonna get the Daniel
Davis Steve Dae find on what's going on between Russia
and you cred to the bottom of the air in
the meantime. Welcome back, and you should bookmark the website
Breitbart b R E I T B A r T
Breitbart dot com because when Oliver Lane's writing about things political,
you're gonna want to read them. Welcome back to the
fifty five krc Morning Show, London Bureau Chief Oliver Lane,
(00:25):
who is doing and empower you seminar tonight seven pm.
Log in from the comfort of your own home, just
registered empower you America dot org to do it. You're
going to want to hear this presentation. Oliver. Welcome back
to the Morning Show. It's always a pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, thank you for a fantastic introduction. It's great to
be back.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, you know, I appreciate this subject matter, what's happening
in Europe and what am I to portend to the
United States subheading While authoritarian to authoritarianism has been on
the rise among the political class, A populist reaction is
taking place. In response, I mean, I guess I should
start up by saying, Oliver, what did they our political
elites expect when they opened the borders in the European Union?
(01:05):
And then we felt the same thing mostly under the
Biden administration open the borders, you had this unchecked, amazing
inflow of immigrants with no connection to your political culture,
no collection, no collection to your culture. Generally speaking, things
got pretty bad and people started looking around in Italy,
in France and the UK and Germany like, wait a second,
(01:28):
what what happened to our country? We're not the same
country we used to be. Our culture has been completely eroded,
Our cities are overrun, the criminal element in the criminal
the amount of crime has gone through the roof. Of course,
there's going to be a populis revolt to that. Isn't
that just sort of a natural reaction? Oliver, Well, what you.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Couldn't see when you said what exactly did they expect?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Was me grinning from here to way, because.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That is the best possible question you could ask, And
I wish I had an answer for you. What did
they expect exactly when you force upon people who in
countries across Europe and probably in the United States as well,
who are voted against mass migration again and again and again,
election after election for decades, and no matter actually the
result of the election, you always get the same thing,
(02:13):
which is more and more open borders. So what we
have so called is this populous uprising, which is of
course an entirely natural counter reaction to elite overreach because
they decided they could do whatever it is they wanted,
no matter how the people advised them, in the endless
elections that we have in these wonderful democracies, which are
(02:35):
democracies that hurt and they're in trouble, because if you
have a situation where people vote again and again to
stop something and it doesn't happen, then well is that
a democracy.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Worth the name.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So it's good and it's healthy, and it's a natural
reaction that we have these, as I say, so called
populous reactions in Europe and in the United States, and
I certainly think that President Trump is a part of that.
In terms of encouraging your fine listeners to tune into
this empower you seminar to item is going to be
(03:07):
a short talk followed by questions, and I'm really looking
forward to those questions.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's obviously always the best part. But the thing that
you're going to have to tune into here is why
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Populism is a bad word and one that we shouldn't
use on the right.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Fair enough, and I'm sure you'll provide a wonderful explanation
of it, and maybe an alternative term to use when
we're referring to what is this, Wait a second, what
about us mentality? Our government has seemed to just turned
its back on its own people, And yeah, you can,
I think clearly connect the dots to this concept of
this globalist, one world government. They view independent countries as bad.
(03:46):
They want one size fits all, They want to control
us all. And it seems to me that this importation
of literally millions and millions of people into otherwise stable
areas has an erosion effect on that. I poured a
bunch of people from the Middle East into the European Union.
They don't care about the borders of Germany or the
UK or Italy. It just means nothing to them. They
(04:10):
have no roots and no connection or foundation with it.
So if they were eradicated, they don't care as long
as they have a place to eat in someone feeding them.
I suppose whatever you got by way of government is
firing with them, because they've all grown up under authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Anyway, a real cynic might argue, there's an element of
dividing rules of this.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
If you have a country that has, for instance, two
predominant factors, or two predominant factions, I should say, be
they based on faith, or based on skin color, or
based on class or anything like that, that's a perfect
situation for civil uprising, for unrest, for civil war, even
which are all horrible words and not things we'd like
(04:50):
to think about. Because you have two groups that are
powerful enough to fight, and if you want to have
a peaceful country, from the position of an authoritarian, it's
far better to have a country with a great many
small groups, none of whom are powerful enough to do anything,
(05:11):
are too busy bickering amongst themselves. You can then divide
and rule. And when I look at the very diverse
way in which our countries are being changed, as I say,
a real cynic might argue that this produces a situation
in the for instance, European states, which where elite control
is rendered much easier.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, yes, I can certainly draw, draw the dots or
connect the dots again her on that. Now, the other
component of this is, and you know, we face this
struggle here in the United States, where I think, culturally speaking,
we prided ourselves, you know, on this melting pod concept.
We had Irish, we had English, we had Germans, we
had Hispanics, we have all these different subgroups of cultures.
(05:55):
But coming here with the freedom and ability and liberty
to do as they choose, work under this umbrella of
freedom without too much government control over their lives. It
was really a motivation to draw people and that all
worked for us, except in modern times with social media.
And this is the point I'm gonna ltimately get to
that division can be created and you start putting in
(06:19):
divisive elements. It starts breaking these otherwise cohesive under the
banner of freedom, people who could peacefully live together. And
you start saying, no, you're in Asian America, No you're
in Irish America. No you're an African American, and then
you drive a wedge between otherwise peaceful groups. That's how
(06:39):
you get this division that we're talking about, and even
under a banner of freedom, it ends up collapsing on itself.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, I think there are two distinct elements here, because,
of course, in the past, the United States has had
these actually quite considerable waves of migration. Historically going back
the past two hundred and fifty years, first British migranges predominantly,
and I think if you look at the numbers now
even now, the English settlers are the largest legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
White group, followed very closely by the Germans.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But you have the Germans, and you had the Italians,
and you had the Norwegians and the Swedish who settled.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
In the north of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But always after these arrivals, it seems there's an automatic response,
a self healing instinct in the United States that when
you have a sudden large arrival, you manage that then
by actually having a period where the borders are closed
and that group, which is not constantly being reinforced with
new migrants arriving from abroad, is forced to to integrate
(07:39):
and actually has to become parts of the American dream.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And that's worked very well in the past.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And the problem that we have now, as you absolutely
rightly identify, with the emergency social media, which is great
in so many ways and is a fantastic tool for
fighting back against globalization, against a league capture, because it
allows people like you and me to trade information so freely.
The other side of that coin, the issue to be
(08:05):
dealt with, is it also allows getivization because those new
communities that arise never have to experience life outside of
their own social miliu. There's never any pressure to integrate
into the American society, to participate in.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The traditional American dream, because if you're a newly alived migrant,
you can do.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Everything online in your own language, with people who talk
and think like you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Why would you have done anything else?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And then you also have authoritarian governments who try to
crack down on what they deem to be offensive or
hurtful comments, and they curtail speech and don't prevent or
don't allow for the free exercise and exchange of thoughts
and ideas. And that to me is I mean, you know,
I live in the United States. We have a really
really well protected freedom of speech here. But when I
(08:54):
look over the pond and I see what goes on
in the European Union, I mean, you can you jail
people for someone deems offensive or hurtful and it just
runs such a foul to our traditional notions of free speech.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yes, well, the way I think of this is this,
when we have discussions and I'm going on a bit
of a tangent here, I hope you forgive me. But
when we have discussions now about the future of artificial intelligence,
we say, one of the problems that we have with
our future computer overlords is that whoever programs them.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Gets the sway on where they go.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So if a computer's greatest good, if the highest possible
moral outcome for them is that there's never any racism,
or you know, transgender people are never misgendered, as the
example goes, then the computer, the artificial intelligence might do
things that ordinary people find quit totally abhorrent, totally terrible
to uphold those standards. So if the computer thinks that
(09:48):
somebody not being misgendered is a higher moral good than
a misgendering individual is, say an ordinary person being shot,
then the computer will choose to shoot the person who's committing.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That thought crime.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Now, when I look at the way that our political elites,
which are now being dismantled by the populist uprisings we
have in Europe and the US, I look at them,
I think these people are not actually much more intelligent
than a stupid AI computer software as a whole. The
way they think and collectively they decide what their their
(10:22):
greatest goods are, their their moral imperatives, and that might
be that the greatest moral good this government can deliver
is that we don't have intercommunal, intercommunity strife, so there's
no riots between different ethnic groups in the United States.
And as long as we're achieving that, which, lets be
honest between you and I, that is definitely a good outcome.
(10:44):
Nobody wants that, right, But if that's your highest moral good,
then you will stop at nothing to achieve that, even
if that means putting essentially normal well meeting people in
prison just in case they do a little naughty, wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Now, in terms of the makeup of the European Union,
I mean it's almost as if you have a version
of the United States, you have Degreece, you have Germany,
you have Italy, of all these different countries under the
larger banner of the European Union. Now has that resulted,
because it seems from my perspective, it's resulted in the
erosion of the autonomy of any given country to go
(11:19):
in a different direction. Oh no, no, Brussels says you
can't do that, and therefore any election in France maybe
doesn't bring about the outcome that the French people want
out of an election because they have this bigger power
tone than what they can and cannot do. Have I
kind of got that right a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, absolutely, the United State, sorry of the European Union, wants
to be like the United States. The political I keep
on using this friend that praise the political leg You
have to forgive me for sounding like the broken record
that we have. In Brussels and Strasbourg, which are the
centers of power of the European Union, they look at
the US with envy.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
They want that power. They want to be the federal
government for Europe. They're not quite, but they're.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Getting there in terms of the the impact this has
on ordinary Europeans, You're completely right, and it is an
enormous issue. So if we look at the United Kingdom,
for instance, post Brexit, we have recently left the European Union,
so we no longer have the EU limiting what we
can do. And it's actually very interesting to witness essentially
(12:20):
how mentally stunted. The British political class is because they've
had fifty years where they've never actually had to make
any decisions. I think if every single item of consequence
is decided abroad, it's imposed all you're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Really, And that was this is how the saying went.
It was government by facts. You're being faxed.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Laws from the European Union and your only job as
a legislator was to implement those laws into your own system.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So we now have this situation where the entire political.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Class has grown up in a world where they never
have to think, they never have to innovade, because it's
always done on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I think actually.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
We're in a bit of a situation because it's going
to take entire generation. The people who are capful of
independent thoughts, they're teenagers now, the people just getting into
politics for the first time, just thinking about the way
the world works, and why the people who are going
to be the government ministers, the activists, the prime ministers
in thirty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Or forty years. That's how long it's going to take,
I think, to escape from this.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And if you look at and this is not just
a UK thing, this is all across Europe, the present
generation of politicians that we have are afraid of power.
They rejected and the best possible proof of this totally
you cannot contradict it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
In my view.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
As you look at the way the UK works, the
government still doesn't make decisions. Every possible area of competence
is farmed out to non government or rather non ministerial organizations.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We call them quangos.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So if you know, if you want to make a
decision on prisons, the minister doesn't make a decision and
have it implemented.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Like you're doing the US.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
The president signs a piece of paper by presidential decree.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This thing happens.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
They say, okay, we recognize there as a problem the
prison system. We're going to call for a report, an
inquiry from an arms length body and they'll tell us
what to do.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And actually every single area of government is run like this.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And we remember not perhaps the world's greatest example, we
remember Liz Trust, the very short lived British Prime minister.
Conservative Party came in said we need to change things.
The way the international monetary system works, the way government
debt works, everything it's all broken and we want.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
To change it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And all these little organizations that the government has created
over the past forty years. When no, you didn't ask us,
we don't agree, and with that, the.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Government collapsed instantly.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Because this network of organizations have been created to control
the government did not give its consent. It's going to
take a lot of work to.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Get beyond that, but I very, very believe it's possible.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'll tell you what, Oliver Lane. Now you'd be surprised
how similar we are to written in that regard. We
call them non governmental organizations, quite often funded by very
large left wing dollars and the taxpayer dollars. We have
a very similar political situation. Lots of the work gets
farmed out to these crazy organizations, and politicians tend to
not do what they're well elected to do. It's going
(15:22):
to be a fantastic conversation. Empower Youamerica dot org, register
from home, tune in, make sure they're at seven pm.
Oliver Lane's going to give you a mucher, larger and
broader presentation on these and the opportunity to ask him questions. Oliver,
It's always great talking with you do such a wonderful job.
I'll look forward to our next discussion here at fifty
five krs the.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Talk station, and so that's always been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's always mine as well. A twenty at fifty five
krs the Talks
To shaibto five and fifty five KRCV talk station, A
very happy Tuesday to you. We're gonna get the Daniel
Davis Steve Dae find on what's going on between Russia
and you cred to the bottom of the air in
the meantime. Welcome back, and you should bookmark the website
Breitbart b R E I T B A r T
Breitbart dot com because when Oliver Lane's writing about things political,
you're gonna want to read them. Welcome back to the
fifty five krc Morning Show, London Bureau Chief Oliver Lane,
(00:25):
who is doing and empower you seminar tonight seven pm.
Log in from the comfort of your own home, just
registered empower you America dot org to do it. You're
going to want to hear this presentation. Oliver. Welcome back
to the Morning Show. It's always a pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, thank you for a fantastic introduction. It's great to
be back.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, you know, I appreciate this subject matter, what's happening
in Europe and what am I to portend to the
United States subheading While authoritarian to authoritarianism has been on
the rise among the political class, A populist reaction is
taking place. In response, I mean, I guess I should
start up by saying, Oliver, what did they our political
elites expect when they opened the borders in the European Union?
(01:05):
And then we felt the same thing mostly under the
Biden administration open the borders, you had this unchecked, amazing
inflow of immigrants with no connection to your political culture,
no collection, no collection to your culture. Generally speaking, things
got pretty bad and people started looking around in Italy,
in France and the UK and Germany like, wait a second,
(01:28):
what what happened to our country? We're not the same
country we used to be. Our culture has been completely eroded,
Our cities are overrun, the criminal element in the criminal
the amount of crime has gone through the roof. Of course,
there's going to be a populis revolt to that. Isn't
that just sort of a natural reaction? Oliver, Well, what you.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Couldn't see when you said what exactly did they expect?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Was me grinning from here to way, because.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That is the best possible question you could ask, And
I wish I had an answer for you. What did
they expect exactly when you force upon people who in
countries across Europe and probably in the United States as well,
who are voted against mass migration again and again and again,
election after election for decades, and no matter actually the
result of the election, you always get the same thing,
(02:13):
which is more and more open borders. So what we
have so called is this populous uprising, which is of
course an entirely natural counter reaction to elite overreach because
they decided they could do whatever it is they wanted,
no matter how the people advised them, in the endless
elections that we have in these wonderful democracies, which are
(02:35):
democracies that hurt and they're in trouble, because if you
have a situation where people vote again and again to
stop something and it doesn't happen, then well is that
a democracy.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Worth the name.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So it's good and it's healthy, and it's a natural
reaction that we have these, as I say, so called
populous reactions in Europe and in the United States, and
I certainly think that President Trump is a part of that.
In terms of encouraging your fine listeners to tune into
this empower you seminar to item is going to be
(03:07):
a short talk followed by questions, and I'm really looking
forward to those questions.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's obviously always the best part. But the thing that
you're going to have to tune into here is why
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Populism is a bad word and one that we shouldn't
use on the right.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Fair enough, and I'm sure you'll provide a wonderful explanation
of it, and maybe an alternative term to use when
we're referring to what is this, Wait a second, what
about us mentality? Our government has seemed to just turned
its back on its own people, And yeah, you can,
I think clearly connect the dots to this concept of
this globalist, one world government. They view independent countries as bad.
(03:46):
They want one size fits all, They want to control
us all. And it seems to me that this importation
of literally millions and millions of people into otherwise stable
areas has an erosion effect on that. I poured a
bunch of people from the Middle East into the European Union.
They don't care about the borders of Germany or the
UK or Italy. It just means nothing to them. They
(04:10):
have no roots and no connection or foundation with it.
So if they were eradicated, they don't care as long
as they have a place to eat in someone feeding them.
I suppose whatever you got by way of government is
firing with them, because they've all grown up under authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Anyway, a real cynic might argue, there's an element of
dividing rules of this.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
If you have a country that has, for instance, two
predominant factors, or two predominant factions, I should say, be
they based on faith, or based on skin color, or
based on class or anything like that, that's a perfect
situation for civil uprising, for unrest, for civil war, even
which are all horrible words and not things we'd like
(04:50):
to think about. Because you have two groups that are
powerful enough to fight, and if you want to have
a peaceful country, from the position of an authoritarian, it's
far better to have a country with a great many
small groups, none of whom are powerful enough to do anything,
(05:11):
are too busy bickering amongst themselves. You can then divide
and rule. And when I look at the very diverse
way in which our countries are being changed, as I say,
a real cynic might argue that this produces a situation
in the for instance, European states, which where elite control
is rendered much easier.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, yes, I can certainly draw, draw the dots or
connect the dots again her on that. Now, the other
component of this is, and you know, we face this
struggle here in the United States, where I think, culturally speaking,
we prided ourselves, you know, on this melting pod concept.
We had Irish, we had English, we had Germans, we
had Hispanics, we have all these different subgroups of cultures.
(05:55):
But coming here with the freedom and ability and liberty
to do as they choose, work under this umbrella of
freedom without too much government control over their lives. It
was really a motivation to draw people and that all
worked for us, except in modern times with social media.
And this is the point I'm gonna ltimately get to
that division can be created and you start putting in
(06:19):
divisive elements. It starts breaking these otherwise cohesive under the
banner of freedom, people who could peacefully live together. And
you start saying, no, you're in Asian America, No you're
in Irish America. No you're an African American, and then
you drive a wedge between otherwise peaceful groups. That's how
(06:39):
you get this division that we're talking about, and even
under a banner of freedom, it ends up collapsing on itself.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, I think there are two distinct elements here, because,
of course, in the past, the United States has had
these actually quite considerable waves of migration. Historically going back
the past two hundred and fifty years, first British migranges predominantly,
and I think if you look at the numbers now
even now, the English settlers are the largest legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
White group, followed very closely by the Germans.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But you have the Germans, and you had the Italians,
and you had the Norwegians and the Swedish who settled.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
In the north of the United States of America.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But always after these arrivals, it seems there's an automatic response,
a self healing instinct in the United States that when
you have a sudden large arrival, you manage that then
by actually having a period where the borders are closed
and that group, which is not constantly being reinforced with
new migrants arriving from abroad, is forced to to integrate
(07:39):
and actually has to become parts of the American dream.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And that's worked very well in the past.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And the problem that we have now, as you absolutely
rightly identify, with the emergency social media, which is great
in so many ways and is a fantastic tool for
fighting back against globalization, against a league capture, because it
allows people like you and me to trade information so freely.
The other side of that coin, the issue to be
(08:05):
dealt with, is it also allows getivization because those new
communities that arise never have to experience life outside of
their own social miliu. There's never any pressure to integrate
into the American society, to participate in.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The traditional American dream, because if you're a newly alived migrant,
you can do.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Everything online in your own language, with people who talk
and think like you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Why would you have done anything else?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And then you also have authoritarian governments who try to
crack down on what they deem to be offensive or
hurtful comments, and they curtail speech and don't prevent or
don't allow for the free exercise and exchange of thoughts
and ideas. And that to me is I mean, you know,
I live in the United States. We have a really
really well protected freedom of speech here. But when I
(08:54):
look over the pond and I see what goes on
in the European Union, I mean, you can you jail
people for someone deems offensive or hurtful and it just
runs such a foul to our traditional notions of free speech.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yes, well, the way I think of this is this,
when we have discussions and I'm going on a bit
of a tangent here, I hope you forgive me. But
when we have discussions now about the future of artificial intelligence,
we say, one of the problems that we have with
our future computer overlords is that whoever programs them.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Gets the sway on where they go.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So if a computer's greatest good, if the highest possible
moral outcome for them is that there's never any racism,
or you know, transgender people are never misgendered, as the
example goes, then the computer, the artificial intelligence might do
things that ordinary people find quit totally abhorrent, totally terrible
to uphold those standards. So if the computer thinks that
(09:48):
somebody not being misgendered is a higher moral good than
a misgendering individual is, say an ordinary person being shot,
then the computer will choose to shoot the person who's committing.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That thought crime.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Now, when I look at the way that our political elites,
which are now being dismantled by the populist uprisings we
have in Europe and the US, I look at them,
I think these people are not actually much more intelligent
than a stupid AI computer software as a whole. The
way they think and collectively they decide what their their
(10:22):
greatest goods are, their their moral imperatives, and that might
be that the greatest moral good this government can deliver
is that we don't have intercommunal, intercommunity strife, so there's
no riots between different ethnic groups in the United States.
And as long as we're achieving that, which, lets be
honest between you and I, that is definitely a good outcome.
(10:44):
Nobody wants that, right, But if that's your highest moral good,
then you will stop at nothing to achieve that, even
if that means putting essentially normal well meeting people in
prison just in case they do a little naughty, wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Now, in terms of the makeup of the European Union,
I mean it's almost as if you have a version
of the United States, you have Degreece, you have Germany,
you have Italy, of all these different countries under the
larger banner of the European Union. Now has that resulted,
because it seems from my perspective, it's resulted in the
erosion of the autonomy of any given country to go
(11:19):
in a different direction. Oh no, no, Brussels says you
can't do that, and therefore any election in France maybe
doesn't bring about the outcome that the French people want
out of an election because they have this bigger power
tone than what they can and cannot do. Have I
kind of got that right a little bit.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, absolutely, the United State, sorry of the European Union, wants
to be like the United States. The political I keep
on using this friend that praise the political leg You
have to forgive me for sounding like the broken record
that we have. In Brussels and Strasbourg, which are the
centers of power of the European Union, they look at
the US with envy.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
They want that power. They want to be the federal
government for Europe. They're not quite, but they're.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Getting there in terms of the the impact this has
on ordinary Europeans, You're completely right, and it is an
enormous issue. So if we look at the United Kingdom,
for instance, post Brexit, we have recently left the European Union,
so we no longer have the EU limiting what we
can do. And it's actually very interesting to witness essentially
(12:20):
how mentally stunted. The British political class is because they've
had fifty years where they've never actually had to make
any decisions. I think if every single item of consequence
is decided abroad, it's imposed all you're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Really, And that was this is how the saying went.
It was government by facts. You're being faxed.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Laws from the European Union and your only job as
a legislator was to implement those laws into your own system.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So we now have this situation where the entire political.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Class has grown up in a world where they never
have to think, they never have to innovade, because it's
always done on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I think actually.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
We're in a bit of a situation because it's going
to take entire generation. The people who are capful of
independent thoughts, they're teenagers now, the people just getting into
politics for the first time, just thinking about the way
the world works, and why the people who are going
to be the government ministers, the activists, the prime ministers
in thirty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Or forty years. That's how long it's going to take,
I think, to escape from this.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And if you look at and this is not just
a UK thing, this is all across Europe, the present
generation of politicians that we have are afraid of power.
They rejected and the best possible proof of this totally
you cannot contradict it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
In my view.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
As you look at the way the UK works, the
government still doesn't make decisions. Every possible area of competence
is farmed out to non government or rather non ministerial organizations.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We call them quangos.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So if you know, if you want to make a
decision on prisons, the minister doesn't make a decision and
have it implemented.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Like you're doing the US.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
The president signs a piece of paper by presidential decree.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This thing happens.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
They say, okay, we recognize there as a problem the
prison system. We're going to call for a report, an
inquiry from an arms length body and they'll tell us
what to do.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And actually every single area of government is run like this.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And we remember not perhaps the world's greatest example, we
remember Liz Trust, the very short lived British Prime minister.
Conservative Party came in said we need to change things.
The way the international monetary system works, the way government
debt works, everything it's all broken and we want.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
To change it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And all these little organizations that the government has created
over the past forty years. When no, you didn't ask us,
we don't agree, and with that, the.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Government collapsed instantly.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Because this network of organizations have been created to control
the government did not give its consent. It's going to
take a lot of work to.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Get beyond that, but I very, very believe it's possible.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'll tell you what, Oliver Lane. Now you'd be surprised
how similar we are to written in that regard. We
call them non governmental organizations, quite often funded by very
large left wing dollars and the taxpayer dollars. We have
a very similar political situation. Lots of the work gets
farmed out to these crazy organizations, and politicians tend to
not do what they're well elected to do. It's going
(15:22):
to be a fantastic conversation. Empower Youamerica dot org, register
from home, tune in, make sure they're at seven pm.
Oliver Lane's going to give you a mucher, larger and
broader presentation on these and the opportunity to ask him questions. Oliver,
It's always great talking with you do such a wonderful job.
I'll look forward to our next discussion here at fifty
five krs the.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Talk station, and so that's always been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's always mine as well. A twenty at fifty five
krs the Talks
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