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President of American Commitment Phil Kerpen joins Brian to talk about stopping climate craziness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Fifty five KRS the talk station eight o five Here
a fifty five kr CD talk station. Happy Friday, if
you have some great plans for the weekend. Brian Thomas,
welcoming back to the fifty five Karasee Morning Show. It's
been too long. Glad to have Phil kirpinback. You can
find them online at American Commitment dot org. American Commitment
Phil Krpin Advocacy Group that what's dedicated to restoring and
(00:30):
protecting America's core commitment to free markets, economic growth, constitutionally
limited government, property rights, and individual freedom. Phil Carpin, it's
good to have you back on the fifty five KRC
Morning Show, Sir.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, my pleasure with Brian and.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
One of my favorite topics stop stopping climate craziness, going
to thinking about Greta Thunberg. As we dive on into
this conversation, come me ask you a straightforward question, Phil,
and I think I know the answer. CO two carbon
dioxide is not a pollutant.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
To convince me had to convince the course of that,
and of course the trub administration is teeing that up.
But you know, this goes back to two thousand and
seven when a bunch of liberal states, led by Massachusetts,
sued the Bush administration and they said, greenhouse gases our
pollution under the nineteen seventy Clean Air at excuse me,
even though nineteen seventy global warming hadn't been invented yet.
(01:22):
People were scared of an ice age they was supposed
to be for local pollution, like stuff you breathe in
and to make you cough and hurts your lungs. But
they got the Supreme Court five for decision infamously to say, EPA,
you have to decide based on the science whether greenhouse
gases in danger human health and welfare, and if they do,
(01:44):
you need to regulate them. And Bush, as was his
style in many things, did nothing. He punted. He sort
of left the decision sitting on the table for Obama.
And of course Obama came in and said, let's go.
We've got you know, we have a door we're going
to run right through and we're going to regulate the
whole economy by saying that greenhouse gases are a plutant. Now,
(02:06):
carbon dioxide is a colorless odorless gas that's essential for
all life on planet Earth. So the idea that it
constitutes pollution is actually a crime against the English language
in my opinion. So I think this whole thing is ridiculous.
But remember Congress never passed an economy wide greenhouse gas law.
That didn't happen. They barely got one through the House.
(02:27):
They didn't even vote on them in the Senate. They
crashed and burned. So Obama said, I have pen and phone.
I'm going to do the whole thing through EPA, And
the Court had given him the green light even before
he got there. And so that's where all of this
came from. All of this mischief. All of the eav mandates,
all the regulations on the power sector, on the industrial sector,
all of the greenhouse gas regulations we have in this
(02:47):
country didn't come from an actual law pass by Congress.
They came from this insanity of the Court saying, you know,
you can use a nineteen seventy while it was for
something totally different. And in Trump's first term he kind
of of tinkered around the edges of this. He said, wow,
you know, I'm going to change the waiting for the
cost of carbon dioxide and all this kind of stuff.
(03:08):
But he did not go at the heart of this issue.
He did not say, no, greenhouse gases are not pollution
and they should not be regulated under the quen Arak
in his first term, and that let Biden come in
and bring back everything that Obama done and uncumb and more,
and he tried to ban internal combustions ve goals all
times and brillions of dollars of regulation. Now this time
(03:28):
Trump is not only getting rid of the regulations, he's
getting rid of the endangerment finding itself, the finding the
greenhouse gases in danger human health and welfare, and that
they just closed the public comment period on this this week,
So we're going to see some finalization of that probably
in the next couple of weeks. And then you know,
the green groups will immediately find a judge to overturn
(03:50):
the Trump administration, and then they'll go up and appeals,
but you know, eventually we'll get back to the Supreme Court.
And my hope is that they will admit they were
wrong in two thousand and seven and that the nineteen
seventy Clean Air Acts cannot and should not be twisted
into an economy white greenhouse gas regulation law. But it's
a tough one to predict actually have the court will
(04:10):
come down because part of the one of the four
dissenters in the original five for was Roberts, and you
know he's likely to switch sides, and so you kind
of probably need the other all five of the other
Republican appointed justice. So we'll see how it turns out.
But the other thing Brian and I thought was so
encouraging about the way Trump did this this time is,
e didn't you know They've got all the legal arguments there,
(04:31):
which are great, They've got all the economic arguments, but
they did not shy away from the science this time.
You know, most Republicans have kind of said, oh, all
the scientists, true consensus, we're all going to die. But
you know, with the legal arguments in the economic art
and once you do that, you've kind of already lost.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And this time around, they've got a very very good
study that was done by the Energy Department and actually
had named authors on it, and the lead author is
a guy named Stephen coonan very famous, very distinguished citizens
who is also the top White House science advisor under Obama.
And he's the lead author in the study that basically
says the world is warming, but it's warming very slowly
(05:08):
and they're not going to be any catastrophic harms associated
with that. It debunks all of the doom saying. And
so they've got the science briefs in there, very credible,
led by an Obama scientist. They've got all the legal arguments,
they've got all the economic arguments. I think there's a
good chance that they're going to succeed, and if they do,
it becomes very very difficult for a future Democratic president
(05:31):
to bring all this nonsense back unless they actually pass
along in Congress, which, by the way, is the way
you're supposed to do academy wide policy changes, not by
dusting off fifty year old law.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, and carbon dioxide is plant food. I love to
point that out. Plants live and thrive on that, and
then they produce oxygen in return for the carbon dioxide
we provide. And this is the way it's been going
on since the world was created. But we're not talking
about something like mercury that is a genuine pollutant which
does post risk to human beings. So nobody's advocating to
(06:05):
let somebody, you know, belch out and mercury into the environment.
We just need an acknowledgement that there's no harm related
to carbon dioxide. And that's the thing everybody keeps chasing
their tail trying to do carbon capture. That's why you
can't use coal plants. Now, coal plants do have scrubbers
to get rid of actual pollutants.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Correct. Yeah, we added coal has become so clean compared
to what it use. And by the way, the the
of the whole obsession with you know, with the solar
panels is most of the solar panels are made in China,
and they're made with coal fired electricity power. The plants
that make the panels that we then buy with massive
(06:43):
subsidies of tax dollars. And and by the way, their
coal is not nearly as clean as our colon. No,
so the whole thing is perverse. And you're right. I
think the green groups have become so obsessed, so corrupted
with greenhouse gases that they do almost nothing on actual
environmental issues, right.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That That is an excellent point, Phil Curbent of Americancommitment
dot org. But I think there's also a very nefarious
element among this green, this green agenda, and it's to
reduce our economic might in our consumption. I think behind
the scenes, you've got a bunch of crazy people who
are worried about the global population, the worried about consumption.
If everybody goes down the road of America, the whole
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world's going to use up all of its resources. We
need to stop consumption. How do we do that? We
declare that basically energy production, which allows us then to
even engage in economic activity. Get rid of that curb
it you reduce the wealth and the might of mainly
developed European and like the United States, Western countries, and
(07:44):
you flatten that along the lines of socialism. It also
benefits China. China perpetuates this myth that carbon dioxide is
bad because they're the ones that get the economic benefit
from it. They're the ones that make all the green
related products. Fill am I onto something?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
All that exactly correct? And you know they've been proven
wrong time after time after time, but they don't care.
They're impervious to reality. And you're right. I mean, it's
a very anti human view. And you know this idea
of resource depletion, which goes back to the home in
nineteen seventy A lot of bad things happen in the seventies,
by the way, you know it's been it's every prediction
(08:20):
they made has been wrong, every single one. You know why,
because human beings create resources. We don't just consume resources.
We create resources as well. And you know, when something
actually does get scarce, we figure out something else, and
you know, the economics drives us in a different direction,
and we can you know, we're human ingenuities, with Julie
and Simon called the ultimate resource. And so these predictions
(08:40):
are By the way, I'm very worried about global population also,
but I'm worried that it's going down down. I'm worried
that we've got a big shortage. We've got a big shortage,
is what I'm worried about, because I look at birth
rates and they're they're plunging.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That is true. Well, you know, I guess the only
bright spot in the world's population dropping, at least China's
dropping as well. Policy was a train wreck, and now
they're on they don't even have replacement level population going on.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So they're headed for total demographic collapse. They're headed for
total demographic collots. Really, all the Asian countries, Japan, the
restaurant's not that far behind the resta room. We're not
that far behind. So it's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It really is. Now back over to the whole chasing
the tail kind of thing, I mean, have we not
learned about If we all just were able to join
in the chorus of carbon dioxide is not bad, then
all these carbon capture related product projects and all these
carbon offset programs they all disappear. The European Union might
be able to save itself from itself if that was
(09:38):
the world in which we live. I mean, look, California
backpedaling across the board. Their politicians see eight dollars gasoline
as a huge problem for the reelection. Their policies are
what is pushing California toward eight dollars gallon gasoline? Shutting
down refineries, not tapping into resources. Oh look, buying petroleum
products from around the globe, helping other countries that actually
(10:01):
produce these products. They're going ahead and using them anyway.
I mean, the European Union won't produce its own, It'll
buy this stuff from Russia to keep its economy well
along as at least as little as their economy is
generating now. But it at least helped them survive, but
they're a giant red flag for the rest of the world.
If you go down this road, your economies are going
(10:21):
to collapse.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Bilt. Yeah, absolutely. Look, I mean I think the President
was was amazing what he did at the United Nations
this week. He just said this directly to these European
kinder said, look, you reduced your green ass gases by
whatever it was, forty something fifty something percent. Congratulations, you
impoverished yourselves. You drove the energy prices through the roof.
And China is laughing all the way to the bank
because they're building a new coal plant every week, so
(10:47):
global emissions are going up, not down, and they're selling
you a solo battle. I mean it's like, you know,
he really called them out. I thought that was incredible
to watch, and you're right. I mean, it's been a
major major problem holding Europe. And you know, we've had
energy prices rise in the US too because of a
lot of the same reason, but compared to what's happening
in Europe, I mean, you know, we're up something like
(11:08):
twenty percent and they're of one hundred percent in the
last five years, and so you know, it's a very
very bad situation there, and we certainly don't want to
follow them down that path. And I don't accomplished anything.
Isn't the other thing I thought the President was so
correct about he said, Look, I mean, if you think
greenous gases of this terrible thing we need to reduce,
you still haven't accomplished anything. If China just increases more
(11:30):
than you decrease, so like it's all pain and absolutely
no game, and it's just economic suicide, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
One of the things I've been on for quite some
time now, phel carbon, is why do we not embrace
nuclear power so it satisfies the carbon alarmist folks out there?
Because it doesn't produce any carbon. It produces an abundance
and abundance of electricity and a very small what I
call footprint, the small modular reactors. They work. And I
have a nod to my submarine or friend Cribbage Mike
(12:00):
we call him. He worked on a submarine driven by
nuclear power. Of the American military has operated ships driven
and powered by nuclear power since the nineteen fifties with
no incident whatsoever. Why can't we the general public have it?
Feil if it solves all of our problems.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it's a really good question, right because we see
what whatever this comes up, you make, you make the
best point because whenever this comes up, they say, oh,
it's experimental. We don't know experimental every submarine, Yeah, you know,
I mean how many decades, you know, how many decades
can we have a technology and you still say, oh,
it's experimental. I don't know, it's dangerous. But there are
few There are few things around the politics of nuclear
(12:37):
and the economics of it that have made it difficult now.
One is that we've got massive, massive regulations nuclear and
so that makes it much more expensive than it should be.
But also we've got we've got the fuel issue, the
spent fuel issue, because we are the only country in
the world that doesn't allow reprocessing of spend nuclear fuel,
and so we've got a lot more waste than we
(12:58):
should have because we don't process. And there's been this
big of me We're supposed to put it a yuck
and mountain, but they don't want to put it there,
so we sor it in cats on site, which is
actually perfectly safe, but people freak out about that, and
so we've got kind of these ancillary issues related to it,
But you're right, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous that we can't
have sensible regulations and build nuclear much much more cheaply.
(13:19):
And by the way, it may happen anyway, ye fight
all these crazy policies we have because we've got this
massive demand for energy from data centers, all the AI stuff,
and our grid is not going to be able to
supply them, honestly, and so what's going to happen, in
my opinion, is these data centers are going to say
we've got to build our own electricity because we can't
get it from the grid, And for most of them,
(13:40):
it's going to make a lot of sense to put
nuclear in there and never think about it and never
worry about it again, especially because the tech guys understand
the technology.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Right now, I'm thoroughly convinced that Alphabet will have its
own personally paid for and built small modular reactor to
power data AI facilities, and that we will ultimately then
get the benefit of it because we're clamoring for AI.
It's the next thing. It's gonna make everybody billions of dollars.
We can't let China get ahead of us, so we're
gonna go ahead and allow them to have nuclear power
and then ultimately benefit the American people because well, we
(14:09):
need business and industries to stay here in the United
States of America. Hey, you know, Phil, however we get there,
I'll take it. I just know that it seems to
be the answer to all of our energy demand problems
stopped by self inflicted wounds called regulations, Phil Kirp Andfinament
American Commitment dot Org. Phil, keep up the great work man.
You always have an opportunity to come on the fifty
five Carsy Morning Show and talk common sense and reason
(14:30):
like you did today, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
All right, my pleasure. We are more to levy me
this weekend though, because I'm on that Sam, So we'll
see what happens.
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We will share intelligence for the very latest on interest
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Fifty five KRS the talk station eight o five Here
a fifty five kr CD talk station. Happy Friday, if
you have some great plans for the weekend. Brian Thomas,
welcoming back to the fifty five Karasee Morning Show. It's
been too long. Glad to have Phil kirpinback. You can
find them online at American Commitment dot org. American Commitment
Phil Krpin Advocacy Group that what's dedicated to restoring and
(00:30):
protecting America's core commitment to free markets, economic growth, constitutionally
limited government, property rights, and individual freedom. Phil Carpin, it's
good to have you back on the fifty five KRC
Morning Show, Sir.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, my pleasure with Brian and.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
One of my favorite topics stop stopping climate craziness, going
to thinking about Greta Thunberg. As we dive on into
this conversation, come me ask you a straightforward question, Phil,
and I think I know the answer. CO two carbon
dioxide is not a pollutant.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
To convince me had to convince the course of that,
and of course the trub administration is teeing that up.
But you know, this goes back to two thousand and
seven when a bunch of liberal states, led by Massachusetts,
sued the Bush administration and they said, greenhouse gases our
pollution under the nineteen seventy Clean Air at excuse me,
even though nineteen seventy global warming hadn't been invented yet.
(01:22):
People were scared of an ice age they was supposed
to be for local pollution, like stuff you breathe in
and to make you cough and hurts your lungs. But
they got the Supreme Court five for decision infamously to say, EPA,
you have to decide based on the science whether greenhouse
gases in danger human health and welfare, and if they do,
(01:44):
you need to regulate them. And Bush, as was his
style in many things, did nothing. He punted. He sort
of left the decision sitting on the table for Obama.
And of course Obama came in and said, let's go.
We've got you know, we have a door we're going
to run right through and we're going to regulate the
whole economy by saying that greenhouse gases are a plutant. Now,
(02:06):
carbon dioxide is a colorless odorless gas that's essential for
all life on planet Earth. So the idea that it
constitutes pollution is actually a crime against the English language
in my opinion. So I think this whole thing is ridiculous.
But remember Congress never passed an economy wide greenhouse gas law.
That didn't happen. They barely got one through the House.
(02:27):
They didn't even vote on them in the Senate. They
crashed and burned. So Obama said, I have pen and phone.
I'm going to do the whole thing through EPA, And
the Court had given him the green light even before
he got there. And so that's where all of this
came from. All of this mischief. All of the eav mandates,
all the regulations on the power sector, on the industrial sector,
all of the greenhouse gas regulations we have in this
(02:47):
country didn't come from an actual law pass by Congress.
They came from this insanity of the Court saying, you know,
you can use a nineteen seventy while it was for
something totally different. And in Trump's first term he kind
of of tinkered around the edges of this. He said, wow,
you know, I'm going to change the waiting for the
cost of carbon dioxide and all this kind of stuff.
(03:08):
But he did not go at the heart of this issue.
He did not say, no, greenhouse gases are not pollution
and they should not be regulated under the quen Arak
in his first term, and that let Biden come in
and bring back everything that Obama done and uncumb and more,
and he tried to ban internal combustions ve goals all
times and brillions of dollars of regulation. Now this time
(03:28):
Trump is not only getting rid of the regulations, he's
getting rid of the endangerment finding itself, the finding the
greenhouse gases in danger human health and welfare, and that
they just closed the public comment period on this this week,
So we're going to see some finalization of that probably
in the next couple of weeks. And then you know,
the green groups will immediately find a judge to overturn
(03:50):
the Trump administration, and then they'll go up and appeals,
but you know, eventually we'll get back to the Supreme Court.
And my hope is that they will admit they were
wrong in two thousand and seven and that the nineteen
seventy Clean Air Acts cannot and should not be twisted
into an economy white greenhouse gas regulation law. But it's
a tough one to predict actually have the court will
(04:10):
come down because part of the one of the four
dissenters in the original five for was Roberts, and you
know he's likely to switch sides, and so you kind
of probably need the other all five of the other
Republican appointed justice. So we'll see how it turns out.
But the other thing Brian and I thought was so
encouraging about the way Trump did this this time is,
e didn't you know They've got all the legal arguments there,
(04:31):
which are great, They've got all the economic arguments, but
they did not shy away from the science this time.
You know, most Republicans have kind of said, oh, all
the scientists, true consensus, we're all going to die. But
you know, with the legal arguments in the economic art
and once you do that, you've kind of already lost.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And this time around, they've got a very very good
study that was done by the Energy Department and actually
had named authors on it, and the lead author is
a guy named Stephen coonan very famous, very distinguished citizens
who is also the top White House science advisor under Obama.
And he's the lead author in the study that basically
says the world is warming, but it's warming very slowly
(05:08):
and they're not going to be any catastrophic harms associated
with that. It debunks all of the doom saying. And
so they've got the science briefs in there, very credible,
led by an Obama scientist. They've got all the legal arguments,
they've got all the economic arguments. I think there's a
good chance that they're going to succeed, and if they do,
it becomes very very difficult for a future Democratic president
(05:31):
to bring all this nonsense back unless they actually pass
along in Congress, which, by the way, is the way
you're supposed to do academy wide policy changes, not by
dusting off fifty year old law.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, and carbon dioxide is plant food. I love to
point that out. Plants live and thrive on that, and
then they produce oxygen in return for the carbon dioxide
we provide. And this is the way it's been going
on since the world was created. But we're not talking
about something like mercury that is a genuine pollutant which
does post risk to human beings. So nobody's advocating to
(06:05):
let somebody, you know, belch out and mercury into the environment.
We just need an acknowledgement that there's no harm related
to carbon dioxide. And that's the thing everybody keeps chasing
their tail trying to do carbon capture. That's why you
can't use coal plants. Now, coal plants do have scrubbers
to get rid of actual pollutants.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Correct. Yeah, we added coal has become so clean compared
to what it use. And by the way, the the
of the whole obsession with you know, with the solar
panels is most of the solar panels are made in China,
and they're made with coal fired electricity power. The plants
that make the panels that we then buy with massive
(06:43):
subsidies of tax dollars. And and by the way, their
coal is not nearly as clean as our colon. No,
so the whole thing is perverse. And you're right. I
think the green groups have become so obsessed, so corrupted
with greenhouse gases that they do almost nothing on actual
environmental issues, right.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That That is an excellent point, Phil Curbent of Americancommitment
dot org. But I think there's also a very nefarious
element among this green, this green agenda, and it's to
reduce our economic might in our consumption. I think behind
the scenes, you've got a bunch of crazy people who
are worried about the global population, the worried about consumption.
If everybody goes down the road of America, the whole
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world's going to use up all of its resources. We
need to stop consumption. How do we do that? We
declare that basically energy production, which allows us then to
even engage in economic activity. Get rid of that curb
it you reduce the wealth and the might of mainly
developed European and like the United States, Western countries, and
(07:44):
you flatten that along the lines of socialism. It also
benefits China. China perpetuates this myth that carbon dioxide is
bad because they're the ones that get the economic benefit
from it. They're the ones that make all the green
related products. Fill am I onto something?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
All that exactly correct? And you know they've been proven
wrong time after time after time, but they don't care.
They're impervious to reality. And you're right. I mean, it's
a very anti human view. And you know this idea
of resource depletion, which goes back to the home in
nineteen seventy A lot of bad things happen in the seventies,
by the way, you know it's been it's every prediction
(08:20):
they made has been wrong, every single one. You know why,
because human beings create resources. We don't just consume resources.
We create resources as well. And you know, when something
actually does get scarce, we figure out something else, and
you know, the economics drives us in a different direction,
and we can you know, we're human ingenuities, with Julie
and Simon called the ultimate resource. And so these predictions
(08:40):
are By the way, I'm very worried about global population also,
but I'm worried that it's going down down. I'm worried
that we've got a big shortage. We've got a big shortage,
is what I'm worried about, because I look at birth
rates and they're they're plunging.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That is true. Well, you know, I guess the only
bright spot in the world's population dropping, at least China's
dropping as well. Policy was a train wreck, and now
they're on they don't even have replacement level population going on.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So they're headed for total demographic collapse. They're headed for
total demographic collots. Really, all the Asian countries, Japan, the
restaurant's not that far behind the resta room. We're not
that far behind. So it's a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It really is. Now back over to the whole chasing
the tail kind of thing, I mean, have we not
learned about If we all just were able to join
in the chorus of carbon dioxide is not bad, then
all these carbon capture related product projects and all these
carbon offset programs they all disappear. The European Union might
be able to save itself from itself if that was
(09:38):
the world in which we live. I mean, look, California
backpedaling across the board. Their politicians see eight dollars gasoline
as a huge problem for the reelection. Their policies are
what is pushing California toward eight dollars gallon gasoline? Shutting
down refineries, not tapping into resources. Oh look, buying petroleum
products from around the globe, helping other countries that actually
(10:01):
produce these products. They're going ahead and using them anyway.
I mean, the European Union won't produce its own, It'll
buy this stuff from Russia to keep its economy well
along as at least as little as their economy is
generating now. But it at least helped them survive, but
they're a giant red flag for the rest of the world.
If you go down this road, your economies are going
(10:21):
to collapse.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Bilt. Yeah, absolutely. Look, I mean I think the President
was was amazing what he did at the United Nations
this week. He just said this directly to these European
kinder said, look, you reduced your green ass gases by
whatever it was, forty something fifty something percent. Congratulations, you
impoverished yourselves. You drove the energy prices through the roof.
And China is laughing all the way to the bank
because they're building a new coal plant every week, so
(10:47):
global emissions are going up, not down, and they're selling
you a solo battle. I mean it's like, you know,
he really called them out. I thought that was incredible
to watch, and you're right. I mean, it's been a
major major problem holding Europe. And you know, we've had
energy prices rise in the US too because of a
lot of the same reason, but compared to what's happening
in Europe, I mean, you know, we're up something like
(11:08):
twenty percent and they're of one hundred percent in the
last five years, and so you know, it's a very
very bad situation there, and we certainly don't want to
follow them down that path. And I don't accomplished anything.
Isn't the other thing I thought the President was so
correct about he said, Look, I mean, if you think
greenous gases of this terrible thing we need to reduce,
you still haven't accomplished anything. If China just increases more
(11:30):
than you decrease, so like it's all pain and absolutely
no game, and it's just economic suicide, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
One of the things I've been on for quite some
time now, phel carbon, is why do we not embrace
nuclear power so it satisfies the carbon alarmist folks out there?
Because it doesn't produce any carbon. It produces an abundance
and abundance of electricity and a very small what I
call footprint, the small modular reactors. They work. And I
have a nod to my submarine or friend Cribbage Mike
(12:00):
we call him. He worked on a submarine driven by
nuclear power. Of the American military has operated ships driven
and powered by nuclear power since the nineteen fifties with
no incident whatsoever. Why can't we the general public have it?
Feil if it solves all of our problems.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it's a really good question, right because we see
what whatever this comes up, you make, you make the
best point because whenever this comes up, they say, oh,
it's experimental. We don't know experimental every submarine, Yeah, you know,
I mean how many decades, you know, how many decades
can we have a technology and you still say, oh,
it's experimental. I don't know, it's dangerous. But there are
few There are few things around the politics of nuclear
(12:37):
and the economics of it that have made it difficult now.
One is that we've got massive, massive regulations nuclear and
so that makes it much more expensive than it should be.
But also we've got we've got the fuel issue, the
spent fuel issue, because we are the only country in
the world that doesn't allow reprocessing of spend nuclear fuel,
and so we've got a lot more waste than we
(12:58):
should have because we don't process. And there's been this
big of me We're supposed to put it a yuck
and mountain, but they don't want to put it there,
so we sor it in cats on site, which is
actually perfectly safe, but people freak out about that, and
so we've got kind of these ancillary issues related to it,
But you're right, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous that we can't
have sensible regulations and build nuclear much much more cheaply.
(13:19):
And by the way, it may happen anyway, ye fight
all these crazy policies we have because we've got this
massive demand for energy from data centers, all the AI stuff,
and our grid is not going to be able to
supply them, honestly, and so what's going to happen, in
my opinion, is these data centers are going to say
we've got to build our own electricity because we can't
get it from the grid, And for most of them,
(13:40):
it's going to make a lot of sense to put
nuclear in there and never think about it and never
worry about it again, especially because the tech guys understand
the technology.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Right now, I'm thoroughly convinced that Alphabet will have its
own personally paid for and built small modular reactor to
power data AI facilities, and that we will ultimately then
get the benefit of it because we're clamoring for AI.
It's the next thing. It's gonna make everybody billions of dollars.
We can't let China get ahead of us, so we're
gonna go ahead and allow them to have nuclear power
and then ultimately benefit the American people because well, we
(14:09):
need business and industries to stay here in the United
States of America. Hey, you know, Phil, however we get there,
I'll take it. I just know that it seems to
be the answer to all of our energy demand problems
stopped by self inflicted wounds called regulations, Phil Kirp Andfinament
American Commitment dot Org. Phil, keep up the great work man.
You always have an opportunity to come on the fifty
five Carsy Morning Show and talk common sense and reason
(14:30):
like you did today, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
All right, my pleasure. We are more to levy me
this weekend though, because I'm on that Sam, So we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Good luck, good luck in the same boat with the
rest right take care of it. It's coming to an
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Then we're gonna hear from Patty Scott from Heart four
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