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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Right time was here withstening everybody a very happy Friday
and welcoming into the fifty five carssee morning show for
the full hour discussion. We have a whole bunch of
stuff to talk about that we can never stuff into
an hour of discussion. Bring him a gulland from the
Hudson Institute online a Hudson dot org. Also a professor
at Ohio or at Miami University Oxford and host of
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the Charged Conversations podcast. Just Derekker produces that one. Doesn't
he welcome back? Bring him?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah? Thanks.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I was in DC until yesterday, so it's I'm glad
to be back in the real world. And yes, Joe
does produce, and he does an excellent job, and I'd
be I wouldn't be able to do it without him.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I say that about the fifty five KRSITE Morning Show,
and I use that as a springboard to give him
free publicity. If you want to do a podcast, just
get in touch with Joe Strecker. He'll be happy to
produce it for you for a reasonable fee. There you go, Joe,
free promo. Love you brother, anyway, I'll bring them. You
add a list, I mean a huge list of topics
to talk about, and I want to try to get
them all in. But I wanted to gravitate toward one
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that was later in your list, and that is the
EPA's endangerment findings. This is all about CO two, and
we've been busting our humps left and right green energy
policies inflacer reduction, acting carbon capture. We need to spend
trillions and trillions of dollars to prevent carbon dioxide also
known as plant food plant food from getting out into
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the environment. We need to stop exhaling Brigham because we're
putting a pollutant in. But no, it's not a pollutant,
is it. So say it the Department of Energy.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now, yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I mean, oh my gosh, don't let the facts get
in the way of a good argument. Because the climate
change movement is possessed, by captivated, by beholden by CO two.
There are many different types of greenhouse gases, right, some
of ms are actually quite dangerous indeed lead to asthma,
health problems, et cetera. But CO two is what the
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world of climate change is solely focused on, and it
has been for a number of year.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's all about CO two, okay, And I guess I
really have to really demands asking the question, well, why
why CO two? It is the lynchpin for so many
of these global warming projects. I mean again, getting let's
just say, mercury out of the air or something that's
a worthy goal. We're not supposed to be breathing in
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or consuming mercury. It's carcinogenetic, it's dangerous, it has all
kinds of felt effects. But carbon dioxide does not do
that to you. So what's the story on behind the story?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, it doesn't doesn't and you know, we did remove mercury.
We changed some refrigerants around, and it got worse after that,
but the initial change of refrigerations is good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
CO two is a percentage of the air, makes up
less than one half of one percent. It's point zero
zero four to two percent in our atmosphere. So relatively speaking,
that is four hundred and twenty parts per million, a fraction,
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a very small fraction, and in fintesimal fraction, and almost
all of that is naturally occurring.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, this is the Clean Air Act apparently authorizes the
EVA to regularly pollutants like let's say, real pollutants ozone,
particulate matter, sulfur dioxide in others that, in the words
of the Clean Air Act, may reasonably be anticipated to
endanger public health or welfare. And the point of them
removing carbon dioxide from this list, and I don't know
how kind of a list in the first place, Maybe
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you can explain that to my listeners, is because carbon
dioxide does not endanger public health or welfare, it shouldn't
have been included in the list of greenhouse gasses from
the get go.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, it shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And you know the EPA, which, by the way, like
all agencies created by Congress, but.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
At the idea of a guy.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Named Richard Nixon, a Republican, to clean up the air.
And thanks to certain aspects of our climate laws, we
the rivers are clean, the air is clean, we're enjoying life.
But the problem is people want to take this too far.
And you know, others came up with the idea that, hey,
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let's add CO two to the list, and so it's
called the endangerment finding, right, and because it endangers public health,
But it doesn't, and it never has.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right, So why put her on the list was to
gain more control over our lives. I mean that seems
to be the only direction we can go. But you know,
I always to step back from that question and say, Okay,
if it's a gain control our lives, why in the
hell do they care what kind of you know, fill
in the blank appliance I am using, or anything else
by way of activity? If the if the result is
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just producing a little bit more CO two, which has
no impact on humanity.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, and you know, while there are people we can
bring people into the show that would be adamant that.
You know, it's what's behind temperature rises in climate change.
It's behind this, It's behind that.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The answer is it's an anti industrial policy. Think of
think of the far radical left, the people that want
to move us back to the pre industrial age. Think
of the anti capitalists, i e. Occupy Wall Street people.
It's all the same group.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It's the anti consumption crowd. Let's to me bringing I'm
just gonna stay out loud. I've said it before. This
comes to no surprise that people know that I've articulated
my feelings on this matter. They are this collective group
who claim to be in with great concern over the
change in temperature around the globe. We're all going to
die because the temperature is going to get warm. And
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they want to go after business and industry, and they
want to make a connection between carbon dioxide and which
is literally involved in every activity we do to shut
down consumption. They view us all as you know, like
cockroaches consuming all the world's resources, and we need to
put a stop to that. Capitalism feeds that. Capitalism is
based on the building and an expansion of capital, which
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necessarily includes the building and expansion and use of natural
resources in order to acquire capital. Capitalism bad. How do
we go after capitalism and create this Marxist utopia they're
all looking for. Well, let's just kick the legs out
of business and industry generally speaking, period. And the only
way we can get there because we have been successful
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at getting rid of components in particulate that may endanger
public health or welfare. Some of the plutants mentioned before,
we've taken care of the vast majority of those. We
need something that's impossible to take care of carbon dioxide.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Right. Well, that's the entire point behind it is that
you can't really.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You can't really get rid of it.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So if we go back to the pre industrial age,
and I'm talking, you know, early eighteen hundreds, CO two
in the atmosphere was about two hundred and eighty to
three hundred parts per million. We're now at four to twenty.
After all this stuff that we've done all over the world.
You know, we've saved a lot of people through advances
in technology, through industrialization, through medicine.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And on and on and on.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So okay, all of that has increased CO two by
about what I don't do higher math three hundred parts
per million to four hundred and twenty parts per million,
which is still less than one half a one percent
of the Earth's atmosphere. And plants love it. Well, that's
the other thing. The more CO two is in the atmosphere,
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the more plant life emerges. It's off balancing.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Exactly because plants do what they produce oxygen AH, which
we need.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
And they store CO two they take it out. They're scrubbers.
We don't need direct air capture where we're man made
trying to rip CO two out of the atmosphere. Planet
a tree, planet a tree, right, don't they want to
do that anyway, don't see That's.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
What I'm saying. You know, more CO two is good
for the environment in the sense that it is conducive
to plant growth. And they're all worried about us running
out of food. They're all worried about us knocking down
the rainforest, even though they'll knock down the rainforest to
build a highway so they can get to the environmental meeting.
They're all going to have the global meeting down and
I mean it's just the hypocrisy is insane. Yeah, Brigand
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but ultimately, if we have more CO two, we get
encourage plant growth, which is again good for the rest
of the world. And there go again more oxygen.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, we'll have to see what happens, because you know
what the EPA is proposed to do. They have to
change the regulation because the Obama people put it into
and there is a process that you have to go through,
and I'm sure this will end up in litigation as well,
but they're proposing reversing the Obama era endangerment finding that
classify CO two as a pollutant. And that's really what
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we're talking about. It's not a pollutant under the Clean
Air Act.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Right, it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There's no authority within the Clean Air Act to regulate
something that isn't defined as a pollutant. And you can't
turn CO two into a pollutant, regardless of how you
want to characterize it.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
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and its impact on energy in India's dependence on Russian oil.
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Seven twenty here fifty five Kero City Talk Station Brian
Thomas with Brigha McGowan from Hudson ins To talking energy
policy and whether or not Trump's gonna be able to
keep his tariffs in place. He's been very successful in
negotiating tariff and trade arrangements with various countries around the world.
Had recent announcements he heard the top of the UR
news and knocking him down one by one question is
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whether they'll stay in place, because there were oral arguments
in a federal Pellic court yesterday, the going in connection
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purse kind of stuff, and that his declaration of an
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emergency is insufficient under the circumstances. No, a trade imbalance
is not worthy of allowing him to have all this leeway.
So maybe all of this will be eradicated. We're gonna
have to wait and see on that. You know, how
the wheels of justice are, they spend slowly. But in
the meantime, the negotiated agreements do include things related to
well large scale US energy exports like liquid natural gas.
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I mean, what, there's a seven hundred and fifty billion
dollar trade pledge in the US EU trade deal, Brigham.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
That's significant, there is. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And I think what we tend to forget and I
do too, frankly, is you know, we talk about a
trade imbalance that means that we give other countries more
money than other countries give us. For purchasing our goods.
But you know, whether it's a car, a John Deere tractor,
or a raw product like oil or natural gas, that counts.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Somebody else from outside the country's paying an American company
that brings revenue into the country, that's a good thing.
That's a whole trade imbounce, right indeed. And so yeah,
you know what I will what I will give Trump
is he is a master salesman. He considers himself America's
number one promotional salesperson of American companies.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yes, he would probably self apply that much.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
We probably would pad himself right on the back for that.
And so whenever he goes around what his view is
and right or wrong, here's his view.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
His view is, well, you know, after.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
World War two and all, we helped out Europe get
back on their feed and we kind of gave them
good deals, right, We kind of gave them the family discount.
But now that was almost one hundred years ago, and
we continue to give people the family discount, and they
don't spend money where they should spend money, and they
spend money on their social programs.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
We also happened to act as their police force of
defending them with our American military so they don't have
to spend money for their own security and safety. Yes,
I've been stationed in Europe myself. I'm sure we have
military bases all over the globe.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
We do so.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, it's akin to telling your loving adult child who's
thirty eight or forty time to move out of the basement.
Pay for your own stuff, and that involves trade. Hey
we've been giving you guys such big discounts. We're kicking
you off the family cell phone bill. Get your own,
(14:59):
your own accoun out. Yeah, that's what this is. Well,
and conceptually there's nothing wrong with that. It does make
sense logically. Why would we be giving them the discount Yeah,
well no, because they have surpluses. They have money to
invest in all their pet projects, including the exostential crisis
of climate change.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, European Union is a is the business model for
the climate change alarmist it.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You know, I just got back from France last month
where I speaking at an economic conference, and you know,
the idea of a European free trade block was a
wonderful idea back when it was the Common market, but
it is so far astrayed from its origins into this
centralized political function in Brussels run by technicocrats and bureaucrats,
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and that should be a harbinger, a warning for America
of what happens when a federal a centralized bureaucracy of
unelected people take over.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, they were independent countries with their own independent currencies,
with their own independent directions thoughts. But they played nicely together,
and in playing nicely together, because they were closely tight neighbors,
they decided to get involved in this European Union concept.
It's like creating a federal government out of whole cloth
when you had a republic of working together states like
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we have here. You know, we got that whole tenth Amendment,
you know, with the powers not specifically reserve in the
federal gun belonged to the states, which allows us more
flexibility and freedom. We can do what we want in
our individual states if it's not a power reserve by
the federal government over there. Brussels has basically taken over.
They're basically taking over. And what's interesting with this US
EU trade deal, which was made with Brussels, by the way,
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is that a lot of it will stick because Brussels
controls a lot of you know, controls the tariffs controls
what can be sold. And you know, to be fair,
the Europeans to jump up down and scream about America. Yeah,
try selling agriculture or wine in France. Try sell America
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of American organ You can't do it right. The German
automobile industry hugely protected because it's important to them.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Okay, got it. But what this does is it resets
the playing field. It rebalances trade, gets American companies more
access to European markets. Now here's where we're going to
have to take away and see approaches. It requires Europe
to buy more American stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But will they.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, good question. Now the devil's in the details, and
keep your popcorn out and see what events unfold as
we move forward. But if we have something that they
don't have, affordable liquid natural gas, then they'll buy it
from us. In a capitalist market where you know, laws
of supplying the man just actually dominate rather than trade rules,
regulations and tariffs. If we've got something they want, they
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will naturally come and buy it from us.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, and Brian, you know what happened in Europe is
you could frack in Europe. Netherlands, the Groniken fields were
shut down, the North seafields for oil and gas shut down.
This was their way of burning. This is akin to
burning the Viking boats on as right, And if we
just don't use this stuff, something else will pop up. Well,
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now they're realizing that something else was actually Russian oil
and gas. That's not vogue these days. So now their
economies contracted significantly. The industrialization of Europe occurred after twenty
twenty two, and the price of energy went through the roof,
and it went through the roof, and it stayed through
the roof because they said, no, we're not gonna buy
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long term contracts, We're gonna buy stuff on the spot
market because we're not gonna need it very long. Well,
that's the highest price that you can pay for energy exactly.
And now they're like, well, you know, maybe we ought
to get I don't know, I'm ten twenty thirty year
locked in price with America for LNG to buy something
from US that they used to produce themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That they personally decide they were going to cut their
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Let's move over to India and their dependence on Russian oil.
How does that impact this whole tariff and negotiations and
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things that are going on because Trump is doing everything
he can to try to, you know, call out Putin
for his refuse to end this war with Ukraine and
threatening additional sanctions. So far, Putin's like got his metaphorical
middle finger rays going yeah, go ahead, try good luck.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah. It's really interesting because what allows Russia to continue
waging war against Ukraine is not not entirely but substantially
driven by money.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Their trade. Oh, we're just talking about trade.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, And China and India are the two largest purchasers
of Russian oil despite all the sanctions. The EU just
announced their eighteenth round of sanctions, which is actually targeting
part of India's refining capacity. And I had some conversations
in DC this week with the Indian government and talking
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about trying to get a trade deal they were putting
on their full dog and pony show to try to
avoid the Trump sanctions, which did not go well, talking
about how well, yeah, they used to sort of be
aligned with Russia, but they would say things like, well,
our line with Russia, the curve has turned downward, while
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our curve with America is increasing. And the bottom line
is they say, hey, we just go out and buy oil.
We just buy cheap oil. And you know Russian oil
is pretty cheap, yeah, because it's sanctioned, right, But the
deal is this, they buy more than they need. They
went in twenty twenty two from really not even purchasing
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Russian oil to now they purchased forty percent of Russian
oil exports, twice as much as they need. So they
refine it and sell it back on the market as diesel,
jet fuel, and gasoline. They're whitewashing Russian oil.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, it's like money laundering. They're laundering it. Yeah, and
they're moving a killing. Our Indian refined gasoline sales subject
to a sanction.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
They hadn't been until this last mentioned eighteenth round of sanctions.
So the EU has sanctioned several refineries and has now
said okay, you guys have to prove the origin of
the oil moving forward. Okay, so they're on it, but
it took a little while. Yeah, well you can listen. Yeah,
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it's like the concept of a loophole in the tax code.
You know it isn't you know. It usually is something
that they failed to take into account, but you're not
breaking the law by using it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It just exists. There's a hole that allows them to
evade the tariff because of the way it was, So
they're plugging the hole apparently.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
And you know, on one hand, you can say, well, great,
you guys are being great capitalists. You're buying oil at
a disaccount. You're making a killing on your refining margins,
and boy, that's pretty capitalistic.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
That makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
But what Trump is really saying is, look, the Indian
market is closed to the US market.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You don't buy our energy.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
You're dealing in questionable energy products where you know where
they're coming from, and we want you to buy US energy,
not Russian.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well, why are we closed to the Indian energy market?
They made that rule, they said we will not purchase
US manufactured products.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Well, there are a couple of different reasons. One they're
a part of the Bricks Nations right, which was formed
by eleven countries Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Saudi Aradia,
Egypt and the UAE. So they're sort of on another team.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, okay, that's all well and good, but if they're
looking out for their own best interest, which anybody does,
we were able to compete in the energy market. In
other words, we had a mechanism whereby we could sell
our products and beat the Russian price. Right. Don't you
think they'd by default they would want to work with
us and buy our stuff if it's better for them economically.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, they would, except that we can't beat the Russian
price right because Russia doesn't have ANYPA.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
They don't have and I get all that.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's like why manufacturer move to China, they don't have
anything by way of you know, financially expensive rules and
regulations and processes in place, that makes perfect sense, But
just by way of principle, we shouldn't be barred as
a supplier at the outset that shouldn't even be in place.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
That shouldn't be in place, and a lot of our
products that we want to sell into India have been
barred India, along with the other bricks countries, have also
been pushing an alternative currency to get away from the dollar.
I know, but you know, India isn't a tough spot,
right They've relied on they had to rely on Russia
for military and then this was raised like, well, gee,
Russia's allies as Russia, Russia hasn't come to the assistance
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of anybody since World War Two, to be honest, when
their allies faltered number one, number two. And I think
India realizes that the trickier part is China, which is
right next door to the neighbor and you know they're trying.
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Speaker 1 (28:33):
Seven fifty five KRCD talk station bring him a gown
from the Hudson Institute in Studio. Former Federal regulator current
energy policy advisor Leeds the Initiative American Energy Security Hudson
Institute and also a professor at Miami University. Moving over
to hydrogen, it's going to save the world, right Brigan.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Oh, absolutely, you didn't get the memo. I just think
of the Hindenburgh, you know, that would be what most
people think of when we think about hydrogen. Is that
catastrophic accident that pretty much killed everybody on board.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Right, So how is it different and better allegedly as
a an energy producer than say what we're currently used to,
which is maybe fossil fuels.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, the idea is, and we've been using it for
a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
We talk about a fuel cell at the International Space
Station or in the Apollo days. Fuel cells are hydrogen based.
What we're doing is we're burning it to release energy,
and fuel cells can generate electricity, and as we know,
everybody on a certain side of the aisle is into electricity, right,
we got to electrify everything, yeah, uh huh yeah, And
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so it reacts with oxygen. It produces heat and water vapor,
and in fuel cells, hydrogen oxygen react to electrochemically and
thereby producing electricity, heat and water. That's the idea. The
problem with it is it takes more energy to make
hydrogen than it does from just using whatever the initial
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fuel sources to begin with.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right, So quite often hydrogen's made from let's say liquid
natural gas. Yeah. In fact, you use the liquid natural
gas and not turned into hydrogen, you get more out.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Of it, right, So shocking.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
We can use it that's called blue hydrogen and using
steam methane reforming or something called autothermal reforming with carbon
capture in storage.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Oh lord. So by doing that, if you had geothermal,
if they could drill down far enough to get to
the high temperatures down below, then you wouldn't have any
of that.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right, you're producing heat to begin with, because in an
industrial application we don't really think about this. Let's uh,
let's go to a an electric power station. We're heating
water to make steam to turn a turbine that produces electricity. Basically,
that's that's the thing. Right. So uh, if we could
just get that naturally occurring from the earth where we
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don't use any energy, you have free steam that's geothermal,
and it's very promising and in fact, multiple studies have
shown you can drill deep enough in certain areas to Yeah,
they're doing it all that they're doing it right now.
But Brian, instead, we can make blue hydrogen, and we
can use two point five times the amount of natural
gas we would otherwise need. We'll capture the carbon and
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it's called blue hydrogen or or there's a rainbow.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
There's a rainbow. This stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Green hydrogen is produced most environmentally friendly because we're producing
it from solar or wind power. Let's see, we've got
gray hydrogen.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
But if you're getting the power from the solar and
the wind, like gas production, why not just put that
into the grid directly, as opposed to transforming it into
something else. And I presume during that process you lose
some of the energy you have gotten from the sun
and the wind turning it into hydrogen. Exactly because everything physics,
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every time you go through another step, you're losing efficiency
and an energy waste, energy, you're interjecting costs.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
The whole industrial process that has to be created in
order to create the hydrogen that you're taking from the
source of power, regardless of whether it's wind, sol or
natural gas.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh did I mention that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
There is some debate about this now, But you just
can't go out into the atmosphere and call hydrogen like
a dog. It doesn't show up. It's not found by itself.
It's bound to another chemical which requires energy to split
it off. And so that's why it's significantly inefficient. But hey, anyway,
we've got gray hydrogen, we've got brown hydrogen, black hydrogen,
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yellow hydrogen, pink, white, and turquoise.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And let me guess each and every one of those
goes to the exact same form of process we just
walk through with gas or solar wind to produce hydrogen.
There's a there's something in between that is using up
the energy. You're gonna love this one. Pink or some
people call it purple or red. We're using nuclear energy
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to make hydrogen because that totally makes sense. That sounds
like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well, yeah, some
of the stuff's pretty common sense. I'm all about nukes, man.
Anybody listens to me knows about it. Small modular reactors
or the wave of the future, small footprints sitting on
a tiny little piece of land generating unlimited amounts of electricity.
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You don't need to convert that electricity into hydrogen to
make it work. Just hook the damn thing up to
the grid problem solved. Yes, and we are working on
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about it, but we can do. Let's get to that
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Speaker 1 (35:56):
Seven fifty one fifty five KRCD talk station. Before we
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few more words here. On energy policy, you were pivoting
over to we were talking a little bit about nuclear
at the tail end of that hydrogen creation conversation. You
had a few comments you wanted to interject.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, I was just going to say that, you know,
I think there has been a huge resurgence in the
interest in nuclear power, driven by the need for AI
AI energy security. A point I made in France earlier
last month was the world has never used a less energy,
only more. And actually France knows this because they're almost
eighty percent nuclear power right now. And you know when
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Spain in the middle of the day the clouds game
and the wind stopped and they lost their grid, it
was actually exporting nuclear power from France and alloud Spain
to restart their power grid.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, it's like Pennsylvania producing enough electricity to cover the
Northeast region who has not been able to produce enough
of its own electricity. It's kind of sorry state of affairs,
it really is.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
And you know, after a three mile island more recently Fukushima,
the Chernobyl thing, people kind of got, you know, don't
know about nuclear power. But we are now up to
a Gen three plus design. We just put the first
two down in Georgia, the Voctal plant. These are one
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hundred percent passive, meaning if you cut all the power,
it fails safe to safe. And we're really enriching nuclear
fuel to three to five percent now, which is much
lower level than before. Remember that conversation about Iran needing
sixty plus per Yeah, and you were in that kid,
that's I'm raising the flag on that one. But and
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SMRs are even better because these small modular reactors are
built in factories. We can we you know, you approve
the license. The problem in America is every reactor's different, YEP,
and it goes through a different licensing.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
These are like legos. These are like legos.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
So we woke up one day and went, huh, you
know what, why don't we get in the car approved?
And then we'll just replicate it exactly and we don't
have to go through all this.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
So we're doing that.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
They can be deployed to different places, they can be
stacked on top of each other, expanded, and we're looking
at at some of those heading out there pretty quickly,
and I think it's going to be a real game changer.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
They last fifty plus years. Equal.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
We've been powering America's military ships since the nineteen fifties. Yeah,
haven't heard any problems with that, have you, Brigham?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No, we have.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
We haven't uh uh every submarine, Yeah, every aircraft carrier YEP,
and the one that I landed on. Yeah, nuclear powered,
I know. And they're really fast too. They are fast,
and they're small. You can fit one inside of a ship. Look, hey,
they don't have to be giant. They don't have to
have giant cooling towers on them, et cetera. Et cetera.
And you know what, if you don't build them in
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its tsunami zone, you don't have to worry about things
like Fukushima happening. I'm what idiot was in charge of
site selection on that one. Well, yeah, I mean they
had a history of tsunamis in Japan, I mean going
back thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Duh, absolutely, And so you know, concerns about uh where
you place them, the security of the facility, cyber stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, we got to deal with all of that, of
course you do.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
And we have to find a place to uh put
the spent fuel, although some of the new reactor fuels
one hundred percent. We're into recycling, right, I know, you
can be one hundred percent recycle the fuel.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
No mass such a small mass of quote unquote waste collectively,
it's yes, just infinitestinimal well.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And I don't know if your listeners have heard this
or not, but even with the old stuff, and even
with contaminated waste water and other things, all of it
would fit six feet high on a football field. We're
not talking for the entire country, not that much.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Brigham Accown armed with your facts that fly in the
face of global warming, alarmist. I appreciate you coming on
the program and doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
You're a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You're always welcome here, Brigham. We'll be looking for your podcast,
Charged Conversations produced by executive producer Joe Strekker the fifty
five Cars Morning Show and let him produce your podcast. Brigham,
thank you, sir for all the work that you do.
Thanks having back on real soon, my friend. Enjoy your weekend.
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Twelve Day War. I suppose that's what we were nicknaming
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