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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Considering the eleven year old got gunned down in a
playground and since he's West End just before seven pm
should never have happened. There is no justification for this.
And to join the program. Who has got some comments
of his own, the Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Scott,
I saw your post the other day and I'm glad
to have you on the program this morning. Welcome sir,
(00:20):
and happy New year to you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Glad to be back, Brian, Happy New Year to you
too well.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Christopher obviously very passionate about his criticism of the administration
in downtown Cincinnati, and I know the residents of the
West End had been promised some cameras and some lighting
in this area for a couple of years. Only last
summer did they get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
financial allocation to do that. And yet, of course here
we are standing today they have never been put in.
But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is,
(00:47):
as from I understand it, officers are stretched way too thin.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, Brian. This has happened at large cities all
across the country. I've had a couple of folks reach
out to me inside the city of Cincinnati as an example,
and you know they're they're telling me that you've got
three police officers showing up for a roll call. Uh.
And some of the busiest districts in Cincinnati, you've got
you've got robberies that are occurring, and they don't have
(01:14):
enough police officers to establish perimeters. You try to catch
these bad actors after they commit these crimes, and you know, uh,
preventative excuse me, we can we can prevent crimes by
being visible, right, you know, I was using analogy, Using analogy,
what happens when you're driving up the highway and you
see a police car sitting in the turnaround in the
(01:34):
middle of the highway. You slow down?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Its determin right, Yes, I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, you know, think about it. Right. As soon
as you do, you slam on the brakes and everybody
slows down, and then you know that, and then they
resume after they passed the police car. Imagine if we
have police officers visible and in these locations. This eleve
year old kid is not dead, right, it's just it's
just something not going to happen. But when you've got
three officers shown up to roll call, uh, and they're
(01:59):
going call to call to call, and then when it
do get calls, they don't have enough people to handle
the calls. That is a recipe for disaster and unfortunately
then the end up in situations like this. So this
has happened all across this country.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, Chief Hughes, we have obviously known about the lack
of police officers or the limited number. Our contingent is
still way below where it's supposed to be, and maybe
where it's supposed to be isn't even quite enough. The solution,
obviously is to hire more police officers, lateral hires, of course,
new police classes. That does take time. But if the
administration had the will, if you had a pro policing administration,
(02:35):
one that understands exactly what you're talking about, more police
equals less crime, how quickly could we replace the contingent
of police officers? I mean, isn't that a logistical hurdle?
It's almost insurmountable these days with all the criticism of
law enforcement generally, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You know it sure is, and that is a big
driving factor. You've gotten morales, it's just absolutely crushed and a
lot of these organizations and these these men and women
out up there in these uniforms are doing what a
buddy of mine calls the hardest job in America, and
they are doing it with pride and honor, and they well,
they are willing to risk their lives for people that
they've never met. But when when you're when you have
(03:15):
locality locations that are demonizing law enforcement, they're not supporting,
they're not given the resources that they need. It makes
a job be more challenging. And you know, I'm up
here in Warren County, we don't have those recruitment issues
because we are in a pro police uh location. Case
in point, there was a I'm sure you saw in
the news this weekend. They had a high speed chase
(03:36):
that came through Warren County. Multiple jurisdictions involved, and jurisdictions
up here took proactive approaches in that pursuit and take
these two individuals who are not from Warren County as
minunderstanding into custody and they will be held accountable up
here in Warren County. And it's just it's just amazing
to me the difference when you cross county lines and
(03:58):
in some places state law is just the difference in
what's tolerant and what's not and where you have recruitment
issues and where you don't have recruitment issues.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, I think part of the recruitment issue problem could
be solved if the administration was more outspoken in favor
of police. The silence from the city is just deafening
when it comes to law enforcement and support of them.
And you know, having Iris Rolie say what you want
about Iris Rollie, but she is not a friend of
the police department. She's been paying six hundred plus thousand
(04:28):
dollars years under contract. Is a you know, sort of
a subcontractor employee of the city. You're not an employee
of the city, but a subcontractor, so she's free of
all these nepotism rules and everything. But because of her
very prominent position and her close connection with f tab
Provo and the Vice mayor, that sends a message just
in and of itself that's the city is not pro police,
(04:50):
and that to me would be a big step in
the right direction. Maybe get rid of her your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, so I'm not familiar with her in particular down
there in the city, but I can tell you based
on what I've read and what i'm hearing, there's no
doubt that that's impact the morale, it's impacting the mental
women who are out there doing this job. It's certainly
going to cause hesitation. We have to be able to
proactively go after these these low level offenses. We know
(05:17):
there's a there's a ferry called broken windows policing to
target low up You know, if you target these low
level offenders, that's going to prevent these bigger cases from occurring.
But again, when you don't have enough officers out there
to make the traffic stops, to stop and have conversations
with people in the corners because they're going from call
to call a call again, it's just this recipe for disaster.
(05:41):
In like unfortunately we had a couple of days ago,
you have eleven year olds who are now victims because
the police officer's hands are tied, often by not their
own doing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
One can only pray that the murder of that eleven
year old is a straw that finally breaks the camel's
back of this anti police rhetoric that comes out of
our elected officials. Can only pray to God that we
get more police and you know, maybe the answer is
offering them more money. Scott, that's one dangling carrot. That's
certainly in the arsenal of options.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Isn't it. You know, those guys and galas down there,
they certainly are not ever going to be paid enough.
That is certainly going to help incentivize this. But I
think more important than that is they have to have
the support politically, knowing that if they make a decision,
it's going to be supported all it's right, not wrong,
(06:30):
good not bad. People are going to protect them. They're
going to have their back. They've got to be outspoken.
They got to be in front of us supporting these
men and women when they're involved in these situations. That's
how you That's, in my opinion, that's how you improve it.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Amen. And I tell you what I know, the members
of the Cincinna Police Department truly appreciate your support. Hamilton
Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Keep up the words of support, sir,
and you're always welcome here in the morning show to
comment on matters law enforcement. Happy new year to you
and appreciate your support of law enforcement. Of running a
really tight ship there, my friend. Apparently a lot better
environment for law enforcement than it is in the city.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I appreciate it, Brian again, happy to your thoughts
and prayers of the family.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Eleven year old exactly, Thank you Scott, he's been a pleasure.
Seven fifty seven. Right now brother Andre Ewing, brother Dre
in studio he'll be talking about crime.
Considering the eleven year old got gunned down in a
playground and since he's West End just before seven pm
should never have happened. There is no justification for this.
And to join the program. Who has got some comments
of his own, the Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Scott,
I saw your post the other day and I'm glad
to have you on the program this morning. Welcome sir,
(00:20):
and happy New year to you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Glad to be back, Brian, Happy New Year to you
too well.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Christopher obviously very passionate about his criticism of the administration
in downtown Cincinnati, and I know the residents of the
West End had been promised some cameras and some lighting
in this area for a couple of years. Only last
summer did they get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
financial allocation to do that. And yet, of course here
we are standing today they have never been put in.
But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is,
(00:47):
as from I understand it, officers are stretched way too thin.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah. Absolutely, Brian. This has happened at large cities all
across the country. I've had a couple of folks reach
out to me inside the city of Cincinnati as an example,
and you know they're they're telling me that you've got
three police officers showing up for a roll call. Uh.
And some of the busiest districts in Cincinnati, you've got
you've got robberies that are occurring, and they don't have
(01:14):
enough police officers to establish perimeters. You try to catch
these bad actors after they commit these crimes, and you know, uh,
preventative excuse me, we can we can prevent crimes by
being visible, right, you know, I was using analogy, Using analogy,
what happens when you're driving up the highway and you
see a police car sitting in the turnaround in the
(01:34):
middle of the highway. You slow down?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Its determin right, Yes, I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, you know, think about it. Right. As soon
as you do, you slam on the brakes and everybody
slows down, and then you know that, and then they
resume after they passed the police car. Imagine if we
have police officers visible and in these locations. This eleve
year old kid is not dead, right, it's just it's
just something not going to happen. But when you've got
three officers shown up to roll call, uh, and they're
(01:59):
going call to call to call, and then when it
do get calls, they don't have enough people to handle
the calls. That is a recipe for disaster and unfortunately
then the end up in situations like this. So this
has happened all across this country.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, Chief Hughes, we have obviously known about the lack
of police officers or the limited number. Our contingent is
still way below where it's supposed to be, and maybe
where it's supposed to be isn't even quite enough. The solution,
obviously is to hire more police officers, lateral hires, of course,
new police classes. That does take time. But if the
administration had the will, if you had a pro policing administration,
(02:35):
one that understands exactly what you're talking about, more police
equals less crime, how quickly could we replace the contingent
of police officers? I mean, isn't that a logistical hurdle?
It's almost insurmountable these days with all the criticism of
law enforcement generally, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You know it sure is, and that is a big
driving factor. You've gotten morales, it's just absolutely crushed and a
lot of these organizations and these these men and women
out up there in these uniforms are doing what a
buddy of mine calls the hardest job in America, and
they are doing it with pride and honor, and they well,
they are willing to risk their lives for people that
they've never met. But when when you're when you have
(03:15):
locality locations that are demonizing law enforcement, they're not supporting,
they're not given the resources that they need. It makes
a job be more challenging. And you know, I'm up
here in Warren County, we don't have those recruitment issues
because we are in a pro police uh location. Case
in point, there was a I'm sure you saw in
the news this weekend. They had a high speed chase
(03:36):
that came through Warren County. Multiple jurisdictions involved, and jurisdictions
up here took proactive approaches in that pursuit and take
these two individuals who are not from Warren County as
minunderstanding into custody and they will be held accountable up
here in Warren County. And it's just it's just amazing
to me the difference when you cross county lines and
(03:58):
in some places state law is just the difference in
what's tolerant and what's not and where you have recruitment
issues and where you don't have recruitment issues.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, I think part of the recruitment issue problem could
be solved if the administration was more outspoken in favor
of police. The silence from the city is just deafening
when it comes to law enforcement and support of them.
And you know, having Iris Rolie say what you want
about Iris Rollie, but she is not a friend of
the police department. She's been paying six hundred plus thousand
(04:28):
dollars years under contract. Is a you know, sort of
a subcontractor employee of the city. You're not an employee
of the city, but a subcontractor, so she's free of
all these nepotism rules and everything. But because of her
very prominent position and her close connection with f tab
Provo and the Vice mayor, that sends a message just
in and of itself that's the city is not pro police,
(04:50):
and that to me would be a big step in
the right direction. Maybe get rid of her your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, so I'm not familiar with her in particular down
there in the city, but I can tell you based
on what I've read and what i'm hearing, there's no
doubt that that's impact the morale, it's impacting the mental
women who are out there doing this job. It's certainly
going to cause hesitation. We have to be able to
proactively go after these these low level offenses. We know
(05:17):
there's a there's a ferry called broken windows policing to
target low up You know, if you target these low
level offenders, that's going to prevent these bigger cases from occurring.
But again, when you don't have enough officers out there
to make the traffic stops, to stop and have conversations
with people in the corners because they're going from call
to call a call again, it's just this recipe for disaster.
(05:41):
In like unfortunately we had a couple of days ago,
you have eleven year olds who are now victims because
the police officer's hands are tied, often by not their
own doing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
One can only pray that the murder of that eleven
year old is a straw that finally breaks the camel's
back of this anti police rhetoric that comes out of
our elected officials. Can only pray to God that we
get more police and you know, maybe the answer is
offering them more money. Scott, that's one dangling carrot. That's
certainly in the arsenal of options.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Isn't it. You know, those guys and galas down there,
they certainly are not ever going to be paid enough.
That is certainly going to help incentivize this. But I
think more important than that is they have to have
the support politically, knowing that if they make a decision,
it's going to be supported all it's right, not wrong,
(06:30):
good not bad. People are going to protect them. They're
going to have their back. They've got to be outspoken.
They got to be in front of us supporting these
men and women when they're involved in these situations. That's
how you That's, in my opinion, that's how you improve it.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Amen. And I tell you what I know, the members
of the Cincinna Police Department truly appreciate your support. Hamilton
Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Keep up the words of support, sir,
and you're always welcome here in the morning show to
comment on matters law enforcement. Happy new year to you
and appreciate your support of law enforcement. Of running a
really tight ship there, my friend. Apparently a lot better
environment for law enforcement than it is in the city.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I appreciate it, Brian again, happy to your thoughts
and prayers of the family.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Eleven year old exactly, Thank you Scott, he's been a pleasure.
Seven fifty seven. Right now brother Andre Ewing, brother Dre
in studio he'll be talking about crime.
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