Congressman David Taylor joins the program this morning

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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proudly representing Ohio's second District, Congressman David tail Or. Good
you have you back on the fifty five KRC Morning Show.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Congressman Morning Brian, thanks for having me back on.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, I know you were a yes vote because only
to vote to know Davidson and Congressman Massey the one big,
beautiful bill. It's got a lot of good in it,
I'll have to admit, But what my big concern is
I want to bounce it off your head. Uh, it
doesn't quite cut enough. We spend an outrageous amount of
money and I was hoping that they would. It would
represent a much much larger cut from government expenditures over

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the next decade. Is calculated by the CBO, which we
all have a question mark about their calculations. But any
anticipation that we're going to get cuts to spending down
the road at some point, Congressman, I.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Certainly hope so Brian, that the Big Beautiful Bill does
have one point six trillion plus dollars and cuts, and
I agree with you one hundred percent that's not enough.
We all like to see the fraud wasting abuse that
the Doge found included in this. Unfortunately, to pass the
Bird Rule, it has to be mandatory spending under the

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Big Beautiful Bill, and the DOGE fraud, waste and abuse
they found is primarily discretionary spending, so we'll have to
do that a different way. It absolutely has to be done, Unfortunately,
and frustratingly, it can't be done through this bill. I
do think that, as you mentioned already, the CBO scoring
is sort of unfair to the bill, and not surprisingly

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they're historically a little bit biased against Republican legislation. But
they're using a growth rate of I think one point
six percent, which you leave the calculation that we're going
to add a bunch of money to the deficit. I
think growth is going to be double that or better.
You were all watching in real time the choices of
dollars of not just international investment, but American companies investing

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in on shoring their operations. So I think the numbers
are misleading. But I also agree that we need to
make deeper cuts to our spending. I think this bill
does a pretty good job as a first step on that.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, and I guess I agree with you completely about
the opportunity for much much larger prosperity and growth. Businesses
have to plan, and if they see tax cuts expiring
and they know they're going to get hit with a
bigger tax bill, they tend to contract their level of investment.
So if the Senate were to move forward with this
and at least include whatever that they come up with

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and memorialize these tax cuts as permanent, I think that
creates the reliability that many businesses are looking on and
will probably see even more investment.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Absolutely, and there's a lot of encouragement for businesses to
do those. Those very things are the Tax Cuts and
Jobs Act of twenty seventeen is made permanent. Here the
one ninety nine a deduction for small businesses not only
made permanent, but increase from twenty to twenty three percent,
So businesses are getting that benefit. Whereas you know, if

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this bill wasn't passed, they were looking at a forty
seven percent tax rate, which is just going to run
an unbelievable number of small businesses completely out of business.
The death tax cap is double to making small businesses
and farms much more easily transferred from one generation to
the next, keeping family businesses and the families crucial. Especially

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in the second district. We have so many family farms
and other family businesses that we want to see protected
for generations to come. It allows for you know, one
hundred percent expensing and immediate expensing for buildings and structures
used in an agricolulture. Overall, they're they're they're estimating about
a ten billion dollar reduction in taxes for American farmers overall.

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So there's a lot of very positive things in this bill.
We'll see what kind of version comes back from the Senate,
but I'm enthusiastic about it. And you know, as I said,
it's just the first step, but it's a good.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
One well and something I think we're all experiencing right now.
And you know, I guess you can give credit to
the Trump administration. I know we're not paying nearly as
much at the at the at the gas pump and
I know that as far as domestic energy production is concerned,
new oil and gas leasing and energy exploration exploration or
part of this bill which might help even more.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Absolutely, then there's even the opportunity for increased leases in
for coal and timber on federal land, which could be
a real boon for the Second District. I mean all
over the country, but I'm always thinking about the Second District. First,
of course, we have the Way National Forest, which it
could be could be law responsibly, and many other opportunities

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for energy production in the Second District especially, I was
keen to see the the iory tax credits for wind
and solar rolled back Andy or they're actually eliminated. But
it was super important for our district that those nuclear
credits were not stripped away and those were protected because

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you know, we have the only American owned uranium enrichment
facility in the country, and there's a lot of buzz
around that area. Oh, everybody's leaning towards the small modular
nuclear reactors, and that could be the epicenter of that.
You know, the Second District could get back to being
the energy producing capital that it once was.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I couldn't agree with you more and That's one area
that I'm really excited about. Small modular reactors. You don't
need a giant cooling tower. They're basically cookie cutter in
that you can one size fits all. They're not have
to be tailor made any specific region. We do have
the materials to build them and the opportunity to build them.
I had a conversation with I hope next Governor VI
vig Ramaswami. He is excited about the exact same thing,

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making Ohio the energy production capital of the country. And
I think that's absolutely achievable. If we can just cut
back the regulatory burden and the environmental challenges that seem
to stand in the way of us getting literally anything
done in this country, man, we could really make a
mark in this world.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Absolutely, and that's a focus also this administration. You know,
all the neeper requirements for we all want these projects
to be done safely, but there's no reason that should
take nine or ten years to get these things done.
You know, Let's speed up the process, do it safely,
do it quickly, and get the benefits roll in for

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Americans because all these big energy demanding businesses are coming
to our area. Honestly, we're getting data centers and things
like that that should require massive amounts of energy. It
has to come from somewhere, It has to come from
all sources in order for us to meet the demand
of the future. And when it's real hot or real
cold in the second district, we're redlining our ability to produce.

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And then we've got these big companies coming to our
area that are going to demand much more. And the
math doesn't work unless we start producing more energy.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
And I know there's a huge demand out there for
military hardware and equipment, and we're seen to be behind
the eight ball and keeping up with say, the likes
of China in terms of, you know, building submarines and
ships and the like. But one hundred and forty three
billion dollars in additional defense spending, we're up to a
trillion dollars. They haven't been able to pass an audit
the last eight or so times. And it will doge ever,

(07:42):
be unleashed on the Defense Department and look at their
spending because something tells me that the money isn't going
where it's most needed, and that's those valuable, the war
fighting materials that we need to actually engage in our
defense and actually to help other countries who are interested
in purchasing our defense items.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, I think there. I know there's been discussions of
that being one of the their next places to go
give a good look to. And no one has any
like you said, no one has any big objection to
two dollars being spent for our military readiness and especially now,
and we have a military or Secretary of Defense that's

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that's focused on the things that that are Our military
is supposed to do as you, as you always put
so so eloquently, you kill the enemy and break their
stuff exactly. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I appreciate that, Congressman.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
That's the job of the military, and they're being refocused
on that. And there's thirty four billion dollars in the
big beautiful bill for ship building, specifically because we're being
out built at at a rate that's not even close
by China, and you know, in the long run, that's
a disadvantage we can't live with. Those dollars have to
be spent appropriately, So I certainly hope that the DOGE

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team takes a good look at that and make sure
those dollars are spent effectively. You know, we've got the
all the military defense contractors some of the best ones
in the world. But we have to make sure the
dollars that we send in them are getting one hundred
percent value for the taxpayers.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Fair enough, flet's pause, I'll bring you back be as
I know the USA Car Act is part of this.
You can let my listeners know about that because I
know you were behind that. Plus want to talk to
you about Connor's Law, which you announced the introduction of
that bill. So let's bring Congressman David Taylor back proudly
again representing Ohio's second district. Be right back after these

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Speaker 2 (10:31):
They say seventeen to fifty five KOSD talk station and
make that eighty eighteen. Find time to see with Congressman
David Taylor talking about the big beautiful bill. And I
know it contains the USA car Act, you responsor, I
guess Senator Bernie Moreno from Ohio sponsor that you were
in favor of. But what does that do for the
American people?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah? Thanks Brian. The credit where credits do? This was
Centator Marino's idea, and we loved it. Bills get sponsored
on one side or the other and somebody to take
it up on the other side. So he sponsored this
in the Senate and we are very happy to do
so on the House side. What it does is makes
your car loan interest deductible if you buy an American

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car fully deductible and your income taxes, which you know,
it does two things. It makes cars more affordable, encourages
purchase of American cars, and it creates jobs for great,
good paying jobs for American workers. So it's you know,
there's no real downside here, and I was glad to
see it included in the in the Big Beautiful Bill
because as as Congressman Winster Boys said that quoted Ronald

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Reagan saying, there's no limit to what can be accomplished
if nobody cares who gets the credits. We just want
the good stuff to get done.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
So does this does this a deduction come in spite
of the salt deduction or the which I know is
gone to forty thousand dollars if you're not itemizing because
you don't have enough itemization to reach that level, do
you still get to deduct the car interest payment loan
on your loan.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yes, that was a little bit of a change from
the original language. I believe that's going to mean. We
don't know the final language of the Big Beautiful Bill honestly,
but hopefully the goal on the other side is that
you don't have to itemize. You get it either way.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, So a separate line on the income tax when
you're feeling out your income tax.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Fair enough.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Now, something I understand you're going to be talking about
later today introducing a Bill Conner's Law. And I was
not aware that this was a problem, but apparently it is.
Commercial drivers CDL drivers license holders can be a bit
of a problem out on the roads these days because
we have so many not only just illegal immigrants, but
folks out there driving around that they don't understand and

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can't read or speak English, which when I think of
road signs, I think that's a red flag.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, absolutely, And it was a there's a President Trump
issued in an executive order to that effect, and we're
trying to codify that at a law because I mean,
that's just a common sense Thing's get this name from
a young man who was killed by a distracted truck
driver who found not to be able to speak or
read English. Can't read a sign that says slow down,

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accident ahead. You know, those kind of things obviously are unsafe.
There's a million different situations where it's unsafe for a driver,
especially of a big rig or a big, heavy vehicle
of any kind not to be able to read warnings
of what's on the road ahead. So I can't imagine
this one doesn't have some bipartisan support, and hopefully we'll

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be able to get it across the finish line soon
and make our road safer.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, I got a big question mark floating in my head.
I don't know how someone ultimately obtains a CDL permit
if they can't speak English. Isn't there reading materials and
things of that nature that go along with obtaining one
of those.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, like any other program, I'm sure you can get
in whatever language you want as far as that goes.
But you would think, yeah, there would have been a
red flag from the beginning that if you're going to
get a CDL you need to be able to read
the signs on the road. Apparently that slipped through the cracks.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Apparently it's a hazard for all of us out there,
especially people like me who do ride motorcycles. Right, it'svang
out from a size perspective. All right, Well, I guess
I'm asking to read Tee Lee's Congressman David Taylor. But
the Senate's going to have its way with it. I
know Ran Paul came out over the debt ceiling increase
and said he would never vote for something to had

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the increase as large as it is. I know some
other Senators have expressed some concern they want more cuts.
Any sense of where this is going to go? And
I guess your reaction to if they do, you know,
lower the debt ceiling increase or lower the salt deduction
from forty grand where it is now in the BBB
to something where it was like ten thousand? Will you
lose House members who would reject it out of hand

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for those types of changes.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, first, let me say I'm all for you know,
there's obviously, as we know, more room for spending cuts,
responsible spending cuts that don't hurt people who benefit from
you know, needed programs like Medicare, Medicaid snap. We don't
want our safety net. We caned and we can make
a lot more spending cuts without doing that. That being said,

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we as you know, as the one vote margin to
pass the big beautiful bill. So we threaded the need
a little bit. Any real big change is going to
make it tough when we go to conference. So now
the President Trump encouraged the Senate to make changes and yeah,
the boss. So I hope they may make good changes

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that we can all live with. And because there's so
much good in this bill, the last thing I want
to see happen is nothing right.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well true, Listen, everybody's got to go campaign and even
the folks in New York, New Jersey and California push
for the increase in salt. If they say no because
of changes to that, for example, then they're the ones
that have to answer their their voters and the constituents
that well, because of them, we didn't get the permanent
tax cuts and Ryan, which you are going to cause

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this economy to take off.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, to me, the salt issue is the tail that's
wagging the dog. You know, it's it's, it's it's it
affects very few parts of the country, but it's it
is by proxy affecting everybody because it's it's you know,
it's holding up so much good progress for you know,
every expaying American family, every American family period. If we

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if we ultimately don't get us across the line because
of uh, the salt situation, that will be extremely disappointed.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, I'll look forward to legislation and shrining the DOGE
cutbacks into law, and I hope you engage in efforts
to get DOGE over the Department of Defense and start
rifling through their records to figure out where that money
is going, because I don't know. The fact that they
weren't able to pass an audit like eight times in
a row is troubling to me given the level of
money that we send over there. Congressman David Taylor, thank

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you so much for your time today, and you're that
you spent with my listeners of me this morning. I
wish you best of luck and keep up the good fight.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Thank you, Brian. Good to be with you.

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