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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Events has made me listen to the radio a lot

(00:02):
more for every one for weather forecast, traffic reports, the
talk shows.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
On fifty five KRS the talk station. It's eight oh
five fifty about KRCD talk station. Happy Wednesday, listening to
Lunch Wednesday, Jim and Jacks. Without further ado. I'm pleased
to welcome back and timing couldn't be better considering the
government's been shut down since u twelve oh one this morning,
welcome back to the Morning the Show, Congressman David Taylor.

(00:28):
It's a pleasure to have you on the show, sir.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Good morning, Brian. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Part of me in terms of the shutdown, and it's
my pleasure. By the way, I almost want to start
with this seems to may this shutdown seems that may
have been played. It played into Donald Trump's hand. He
did campaign on draining the swamp, producing the size and
the scope of government. This does present giving the OMB
pronouncement on this that this does present an opportunity for

(00:56):
Donald Trump to whittle down the size and scope with
the number of employees in the federal govern Isn't that
like a positive thing? I know Chucky Schumer is having
an aneurysm over. But this sounds like an ideal opportunity
to whittle away the fat in government.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Absolutely, the President's already spoken on that, and you know,
I think hopefully that's going to be something that pushes
them forward to get this ridiculous shutdown and sooner rather
than later they shut various shutdown. The families will be hurt,
farmers will be hurt, border security and border patrol agents
may not be paid. And those are not my words,

(01:31):
those are the words of King Jeffries the last time
the shutdown came around. So Honestully, they'll they'll they'll make
sense of this and get the government running again, because
you know a lot of people are going to be
hurt by this, and primarily as people they allegedly care about.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, well, that's true, but you know, I mean a
Shumer statement, Well there it is. Trump admitted himself that
he's using them, using Americans as political puns, and by
the word americans in this particular case, he's talking about
government employees, right, I mean, he says he's admitting that
he's doing it, doing the firing of people, if God
forbid that happens. He's using Americans as ponds again. The
subset of all of us out here in the unwashed masses,

(02:10):
who can face termination from their employment on a moment's notice.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
We have a.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's I mean, we all are subject to this. I mean,
I've been through corporate reorganizations. People lose their jobs. I've
seen a number of articles even love late, like the
airline industry shedding four thousand jobs. Why will artificial intelligence
or whatever the streamline and the processes. We're not immune
from being fired. But the moment any federal worker deals
with the idea and the concept of maybe not getting
a paycheck or losing their jobs if the world came

(02:39):
to an end with Democrats.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Right, and the Democrats talk constantly about the need for
all these massive numbers of federal workers. But now when
they're willing to put those very people that they say
they care about danger in order to push forward their agenda,
which which favors in every way possible illegal aliens. They
they've done it under the previous administration, where they brought

(03:02):
in as many as they could. When they didn't didn't
cross the border fast enough, they set up a private
jet service that people could call in and get brought
to the United states, and they all voted against the
one big, beautiful bill that would strip the federal benefits
for illegal aliens at the same time. And actually during

(03:26):
that debate, I watched up I take about one hundred
and five Democrats walk up to the podium and make
individually make the same motion, the essence of which was
that frosters and illegal aliens should be able to continue
to receive federal benefits that are meant for Americans. And
now they're going to shut down the government in order
to protect the illegal aliens they have in the country.

(03:47):
Now it's abandoning all the people that they allegedly care
about again.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, and those benefits, sorry about that. I had a
cough bucking issue. Those benefits are the subseais kicked in
as a consequence of COVID nineteen, where the cap of
sixty two to five to get some supplements, you couldn't
get it if you made sixty two to five and
a dollar, so that was in place before COVID. COVID

(04:11):
an excuse to lift that cap and give even some
very very wealthy people assistance with their insurance premiums undern
Obamacare plan that's going to go back. They knew this
was going to end when the bill that allowed the
supplements got passed. It had a finite date. It's the
end of this year. I mean, it's not like they
didn't see this coming. Now they're thinking that they're talking about,
oh my god, the world's going to come to an end.

(04:32):
It wasn't the world going to come to an end
when you put a finite date for these supplements to stop,
right exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
And it's a date that they picked. And in the
the pandemic's been over for years now that it's way
past time for us to go back to normal operating procedure.
And but these benefits that they passed, that they voted
in make their base happy, so they're going to do

(05:00):
whatever they can to defend them.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, and I guess I'm kind of wondering considering those
that make four hundred percent or less of poverty level
are still going to get the supplements. Isn't that really
their base, those low income Americans who will cling to
federal subsidies and in lifelines that they perceive them to be.
This is again, more well healed folks that are getting
their subsidies cut off.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, I agree, hundred percent and definitely, this whole situation
doesn't make much sense. Yeah, you know, honestly, I think
that what we're the only reason behind it that I
can see that make sense to me. And I haven't
heard anybody else say this, but I'm sure lots of
people are thinking it. They are seeing Donald Trump's policies
working for all American people. You know, the GDP just

(05:46):
came out. It was more than two times higher than
what the CBO estimated it would be. Inflation is going down,
wages are going up, trillions of dollars being invested in
American businesses, and we're secured the border, we're removing the
criminal aliens that they import, and they're desperate to stop
that momentum. And you know, honestly, this is the greatest
length you can go to. And every single one of

(06:07):
these people shouting for the shutdown on the Democrat side
of in the past said how dumb shutdowns are? You know,
they're Nancy Pelosi in twenty eighteenth that there's no such
thing as a good shutdown of government. I guess unless
it serves Democrat a projects.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ah, David Taylor, you anticipate in the next question, these
subsidies came about during COVID nineteen. Who is clamoring for
shutting down non essential businesses? Who's for shutting down churches
where you're going to mingle with people and you didn't
need to do that. Who's shut down, you know, some
mom and pops stores and told people they can only
shop at one side of the aisle to a home
depot and not the other side. I mean, there's non

(06:48):
essential workers that aren't going to work today in federal government.
Non essential. They're the ones that declared non essential businesses,
and of course declaring religion and the freedom of free
exercise of religion and the right to freadom of assembly
a constitutionally enshrined rights. They're the ones that declared those
days were over during COVID. So I guess it depends
on whose ox is being court, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Absolutely? And all those ridiculous requirements that led to the
shutdown of schools and businesses, we're finding out more and
more negotiated between Democrats, the CDC and teachers unions based
on zero science whatsoever. So we need some accountability for
that too. Their lives were ruined and lost during that timeframe,
and that never should have happened.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, we know that socials, security, Medicare, and Medicaid payments
will continue. That is not a problem. It's not going
to get shut down. Federal workers ultimately will get paid
when they go back to work, assuming that they do
and don't quit. I did read Congressman Taylor, maybe you
can confirm this that one hundred thousand federal workers resigned
and took their early buyout package yesterday. So we've already

(07:53):
shaved off one hundred thousand with that in one day.
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
The last word I saw was we're threatening to I'll
have to confirm today if that paperwork actually got clouds.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right, Well, who's truly going to be implicated by
a government shutdown? Since essential services are going to remain
in place. I even note that they're not going to
close the parks down. They're not going to bar you
from seeing the World War Two memorial from behind a gate.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, I'm sure that a lot of the National Park
employees are going to be deemed unessential. Though there's certain monuments,
especially in DC, you can you can enjoy from a
distance that don't require staffing of any kind. But lots
of federal workers who would an intern in our office
is non essential. Our core staff is essential. So that's

(08:42):
that's important. That's here, my district staff and my Washington
d C staff. But it does affect a lot of
rank and file federal workers and bureaucracy. And that's, you know, honestly,
that's a as you said earlier, crazy opportunity for President
Trump to make some long needed changes. And these your
bloated agencies are not only have too many people, but

(09:04):
have lost the direction of what they're they're intended to
be doing. So I hope that that's motivation for the Democrats,
even though it's well, we'd miss out on a chance
to get something that done. I think it'd be better
if they just said, let's don't risk it and let's
ask the clean CR, because that's what they asked for.
They ask for a clean CR short term, which we

(09:25):
gave them. Then once they got that, they've got their
laundry list of your ridiculous demands.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Right and the clean SAR keeps us at the ridiculous
funding levels that were set last year, which are way
too high. I mean, I don't know why they complained
about that. That's a gift right there, and it's really
irked a lot of my listeners that we didn't have
a CR that well spent less money. But it puts
the ball firmly in the Democrats court given that funding
levels remain at the current level. Yet they rejected that
it would have done that all the way through November.

(09:51):
Why so you could go back to work on the
twelve appropriation bills and correct me if I'm wrong, Congressman Taylor,
during which time you can ask for the return of
these subsidies if you can wrangle it and negotiate during
the sausage making process.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right, And you're right on both counts. They know this
is the same CR that they agreed to six months ago,
and one that they they've passed thirteen times under President Biden.
They've never seen a CR they didn't like until this time.
The good news on the appropriations bills, and this is
more motivation for them to try to throw some sand

(10:26):
in the gears. As we've got all twelve appropriations bills
out of committee, they're ready to go to the floor.
Oh so we can idicate. The Senate has I believe seven,
possibly eight of their appropriations bills done, so we're on
the precipice of having our first budget in thirty one years,
which would be which it would be great, you know,
and obviously that will be very bad headlines for the Democrats.

(10:46):
So I'm just something the motivations that they see to
pass the cr outweigh the ones they have to try
to grind everything to a halt.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, I guess now I'm wildly curious to see what's
in the twelve appropriate are they in the appropriation bills
that have entered out that have come out of committee,
because quite often it disappoints a lot of my friends
and me that Republicans also will pile on for additional
spending because well, their state has an interest that needs
to continue funding and we're not going to cut my
interest off. So you guys over in those other states

(11:15):
cut it off. There's always that again sausage making process.
We end up with a budget that far exceeds the
prior year's budget.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure all of us, me included,
will have issues with the bills in their final form,
but I got to think it's better than this, you know,
kick the can down the road and you know, hang
this albatross around our grandchildren's necks that we're doing now.
We've been living on CRS for far too long. A

(11:43):
not perfect budget is better than no budget. We're going
to get the closest we can to the best budget. Well,
we're going to get the best pleasure we can close
to perfect as we can get. That's good.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And only by doing twelve appropriation bills can you avoid
the monstrosity that is an omnibus spending bill right right.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
And you know that's why I was encouraged on this one.
That's why I was happy to vote for the CR
even though I hate CRS. It is short term and
there is good reason to do it because we are
on the verge of actually putting forth a budget, and
we passed the full tobal appropriation bills out of the House.
That'll that'll put pressure on Democrats to actually act on

(12:23):
a budget for a change. And that's Congress is like
number one job. That's what we're supposed to be doing
there we haven't done it.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And in forever nineteen ninety seven, that's that's a terrible
track record. Congressman Taylor, you're not part of that track record.
I'm glad to see you're working hard to get back
to regular order, which we're desperate for out here in
the unwashed mass world we live in. Congressman David Taylor,
anything any further comments on where we are, what's the
next step as you see it coming? And is this

(12:49):
shutdown going to last very long? If you had to
read Tea Leaves.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, I don't think it's gonna last very long. I
get accused of being an optimist now and again, but
also I don't think. You know. What I've been surprised by, Brian,
is they're not getting their water carried by the national
media the way they usually do. Right, So there's usually
every all these outlets of all kinds, from ABC, NBC,
CBS to the cable networks traditionally, you know, go wall

(13:17):
to wall coverage saying Republicans have caused the shutdown, Republicans
are starving babies and killing old people. You're not seeing
much of that. You're actually seeing some Democrat leadership on
TV getting asked reasonably fair questions that they're not used
to and it's hard for him to answer with their
their long track record of always supported the Kulean cr

(13:38):
never voting against one. All this rhetoric they put up,
which is actually true for a change, shut it down.
The government is a bad thing, and I think it
would be hard for them to hold the line. And honestly,
I think their their numbers will get worse and worse
if they don't get the federal government running.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Against congress On David Taylor, it's always a distinct pleasure
having on the program.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Keep up the great work.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I wish you all the best as we move forward
in this process and hopefully the nearest to our collective benefit.
We the American taxpayers, have significant concern about where we are.
The deficit keeps getting bigger, and the hole keeps getting deeper,
and the debt service keeps getting more and more significant
every year. Congressman Taylor, You're always welcome here in the
fifty five KRC Morning Show. Look forward to having you

(14:21):
back on again real soon.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Thank you, my friend. Have a great day.

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