Congressman Warren Davidson joins the show this morning

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The talk station.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Seven oh five, the fifty five parised talk station Happy
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this hour. And I am always excited and pleased to
welcome with the fifty five Krsey Morning Show, Congressman Warren Davidson,
Welcome back, my friends. Pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Brian, It's always an honor great to talk with you.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Let us dive on into Well, we're still in a shutdown,
said a voted again said no. Democrats are insisting that
we extend the COVID area era, basically premium supplements covering
the American taxpayers covering the cost of the Obamacare premiums,
which was successfully expanded the program. They doubled the size
of the Obamacare folks during COVID nineteen. But that was

(01:03):
the predicate for allowing these supplements. COVID nineteen. Oh my god,
we're all going to die. Businesses are shut down. People
need relief. Let's give them free insurance, which isn't really free. Well,
that period of time has gone, he yet the Democrats
and an obvious effort to get everyone under one size
fits all medically run government healthcare or government run medical care.

(01:23):
They're fighting and that looks like they're going to die
on this hill. Or are they? Congressman Davidson, what's your
assessment on this? I know you had some very strong
words about the Continuing Resolution which kept the Biden era
funding levels to try to get this through. So where
are we on this, Congressman Davidson, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean that's basically it. Democrats could have chosen to
just keep the funding level that they helped implement. I mean,
this isn't like a partisan funding bill. This was the
Republicans had the House, the Democrats had the Senate, Joe
Biden was the president, and this is the same policy,
same funding level the pass at that. We haven't passed

(02:01):
a different funding goal. We've had lots of debates about it.
But that's the whole point is we could continue having
the debates and call the votes on other policy issues
with a government that's open, or we could have this shutdown.
And you know, Democrats decided that they were going to
hold their votes and not supply the seven that you
need in the Senate, we hit passed it out of

(02:21):
the House because we just need a majority, and a
majority of the Senate's passed it. You've got fifty six
senators that say yeah, let's keep the government open, so
that's bipartisan, but you need four more Democrats frankly, to
join and say let's keep it open. And realities, we
know we need less government, we need a budget that balances.
Democrats said, no, if you don't give us a one
and a half train dollars that we can spend on

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our priorities, which includes health care for illegals, includes you know,
COVID plucks ups for Obamacare, which what never worked in
the first place. It was failing in twenty twenty one,
and they used COVID as a pretext to flood it
with even more cash. And now it's expiring and they're like, oh, well,

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maybe if we subsidy it more, it'll keep you know,
we'll reach this magic tipping point where somehow it'll be affordable.
And it's like, no, you know, I'm almost timpted to say,
you know what, you should triple them, because just to
prove the point, the subsidies aren't lowering the costs, not
helping people get lower health insurance. Now it benefits to

(03:23):
people to get the subsidy for sure, but for the
broader average consumer, it's raising the premiums and the quality
of care since Obamacare hasn't done better. Health outcomes haven't
done better since Obamacare was worked. So when are we
going to finally concede that Obamacare didn't work? And Democrats
want to shut the government down over that and other priorities.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
They've got, Yes, they do. And you know it's funny
because the premiums going basically going directly to healthcare providers
like hospitals. I mean, the American people aren't seeing any
of that. So it is it is continuing to support,
but it's not. They haven't gone away. I think that's
really critical point here. It's not. It doesn't become free
just because the government says, well, now it's free. They're

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not providing health care for nothing. The American taxpayers covering
the nut of the premium. That's your one point five
trillion dollars right there, basically, or maybe hundreds of millions
of dollars, billions of dollars anyway, Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Portions hundreds of billions. They've got all kinds of other
stuff in there. They want to restore USAID funding, which
we intentionally turned off. They want to restore our funding
for NPR, which we intentionally told them to go fund themselves.
And you know, all these things they want to relitigate
that we've already had the votes on, and they just
want to use the government shutdown as extortion. So, you know,

(04:36):
I hope we put single things in there, like you know,
right now, you know, we've got essential people working, and
you know that begs the question why do we have
non essentially? But if you say, all right, well, these
people are so important that they need to keep working,
why isn't the payroll clerk that pays them so important
that the payroll clerk keeps working? So we can put
some line at them bills on there so that it's like, Okay,

(04:58):
if you don't want to fund the government all the way,
could we at least fund the payroll clerk so that
our troops can get paid this month.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
That's a good idea, Congressman Davidson. But now, what of
the concern that I have that Republicans now seem to
be maybe wavering a little bit headline Wall Street Journal
Republicans cautioned White House on inflicting shut down pain, referring
to Donald Trump's comment earlier this week about the Officer
Management and Budget compiling a list of folks that will

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be fired or departments that will be permanently closed. He
did suggest that was coming our way in a matter
of four or five days. Now we're down to maybe
three or four days for that. But isn't that something
that we kind of want out of this shut down?
An opportunity to reduce the size and scope of government,
which some of these wavering Republicans are saying, well, wait
a second, that'll give the Democrats a win in the

(05:47):
who's responsible for this shutdown argument? Aha? See, the only
pretext for this is Republicans want to cut out the
government and oh my god, people are going to die
or whatever. But I don't care. I would think you
could wear that as a badge of honor. Yes, I
did shut the government down for the purposes of getting
it smaller. We campaigned on doing exactly that.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well that's the thing. Look, I voted for the cr
so we could keep having this debate, because frankly, I
want the outcome of a smaller government. So you know, okay,
if we're going to have a revote, and I can
take credit for helping get Russ vote to power to
start aligning a budget with our priorities, well good, that's
exactly what we've been fighting to do. With the appropriations process.

(06:29):
It's broken, and so all you've really got left is
executive power. And you know, the administration put out a
budget earlier this year. I would be surprised if they
don't start doing basically what they said they believe the
budget should look like, and they send over, you know, ideas,
and then Congress just well, yeah, but we can't do that,
and they never get around to doing it. So, you know,

(06:49):
Russ voted at office Management and budgets, got the task
of saying, look, I have to follow the law. I
have to pay people that we're considering essential. You know,
the prisons guards at the federal prisons, they're going to
have to show up to work, keep the prisoners locked up.
The FAA is going to have to work and keep
the planes in the air, et cetera. But there are
agencies that they said, for example, we don't think we

(07:12):
need as many IRS agents. So they're talking about for
a lowing or eliminating a substantial portion of the RS
I think forty six percent. I want the whole place closed.
But you know, it's a good start to get rid
of forty six percent of it.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Couldn't agree more. It seems to me that you know,
a lot of jobs out in the world are threatened
by artificial intelligence, Congressman Davidson, isn't that sort of a
role that artificial intelligence may be able to fill quite nicely?
It is just dollars and cents and calculations based upon
an obscenely thick and fat tax code.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, look, the tasticulously complex. That's why we
need a different way to tax people and get rid
of the income tax, which also serves as a giant
surveillance tool. Pretty nosy all the things you have to
disclose in it. But anyway, it is one hundred percent right.
For more automation and more tech and the innovation that

(08:04):
can happen there is going to eliminate a lot of
jobs in terms of compliance. But in the meantime, when
we're operating the government, look, we've got tons of agencies.
I mean, if you look at HUD for example, housing
an urban development, they had like forty four percent coming
into the office period, not like every day of the week,
but like coming into the office period. There's still This

(08:27):
is when I was talking with Secretary Fudge before the
current administration. You know, Marcia Fudge, a former remember of
Congress from Cleveland area here in Ohio, became secretary of
HUD and she's like, look, you can't get all these
people to come in. COVID is long since gone, and
they still couldn't get people to show up to work.
You've got the same dynamic and IRS, same dynamic and

(08:48):
solid security administration. So a lot of these people that
haven't come into work, the Trump administration has already tried
dealing with them. They've offered buyouts, They've done all kinds
of things. There are lots of positions like that we
can say, you know, maybe we just don't need all
these people.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Concressmarren Davids, one more question on this shutdown we'll address
before we take a break and bring it back and
talk about an amazing development yesterday regarding peace in the
Middle East. There was a floated around proposal which is
widely described as bipartisan, extending these tax supplements, these credits.
They were COVID nineteen era related for one year, sort

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of as a way to kick the can down the road,
so we'd have a new expiration date for them. But
is that something that you would be willing to go
along with, because I think it's a step in the
wrong direction.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Personally, No, the status quo is completely broken, and I
don't think it's a good idea to extend them for
one month. Personally, I think we should have already repealed
Obamacare and gone on to a more market oriented approach.
But if we're going to do a dime for these
COVID era plus ups for Obamacare, I hope we triple them,

(09:54):
ten x them. Whatever. Proof once and for all that
subsidies don't work, and it proved that, Okay, we can't
arrive at a crash site. People act like money is
irrelevant and we can just print it. Well, you don't.
Can you not connect the dots that the massive spending
causes inflation? And they're like, oh no, it's corporate greed,
And you're like, then the companies always want to make money,

(10:16):
but when you spend massively more money, it causes inflation.
And we're seeing that in the areas that you subsidize
the most, like education and healthcare, you get the most inflation.
And in the economy when you spend massively more two
trillion more then we generate in revenue. You're dumping two

(10:38):
trillion extra dollars into the economy every year. How do
you not have inflation? And for some reason people can't
do this cause effect relationship. It's mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's a failure of the US education system. I would argue. Anyhow,
We'll continue the Congress from War and Davidson. Peace in
the Middle East, the concept within our reach. Maybe seven
sixteen fifty five KRC detalk stations UYS five KS the
talk station Brian Times with Congressman Warren Davidson followed by
Senator Ran Paul Bottom of the hour, Congressman Davidson, A

(11:08):
wonderful revelation. Yesterday Hamas and Israel agreed to Phase well,
I guess they're calling it Phase one. A lot of devils,
devil in details, a lot of things to be ironed out,
but a remarkable advancement toward peace between Israel and Hamas,
the terrorist organization Israel's agreed to withdraw. There's some question
marks about where the lines of withdraw are going to
be drawn and who's going to be providing sort of

(11:30):
a peacekeeping force there? But I guess the Egyptian border
at Rafa is now open, which allows Palestinians to exit
the area and allows for if food deliveries to be
brought in. This seems to be a huge accomplishment. Congressman Davidson,
what's your perception of where we are on this look?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I think Donald Trump has been very clear that his
goal is peace. He wants people to stop dying. He's
been very active on the world stage, and what a
great use of America's influence around the world and Donald
Trump's personal role in it. And it's been amazing to watch.
He's been incredibly effective. No, I mean, no one really

(12:11):
believes there's going to be peace in the Middle East.
Whenever you starts working on it, you're like, well, okay,
why don't you have tilted some other woodmill. This is
a very entrenched conflict and it's amazing to see that
he's brought the parties together to get to a point
where they're close to peace. They're agreed to do it.
Now let's see if they actually do it, and you know,
exchange you got to give up the hostages, and you've

(12:35):
got to stop. You know, Hamas cannot govern Gaza. That's
the base thing for Israel and then for you know,
the people of Gaza. All right, if those things are met,
then Israel can start pulling troops out of the Gaza area.
And if it changes, well, then okay, then it's all
back on. But hopefully peace we'll get there. I've spent
a lot of time praying for this peace and it's

(12:57):
just terrible to see what's going on. Wars a horrible thing.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Well, and part of me wants to believe the Democrats
are actually quite upset about this, in spite of the
fact that it's going to lead to maybe fewer deaths
and maybe even a broader peace like the Abraham Accords
we're bringing around. Can you imagine that extending throughout the
entire region. Hey, let's live together independently, but play together
nicely for the purposes of everybody's economic benefit. And what
an odd concept that. But I thought it was wonderful

(13:23):
that all of the parties to these negotiations, from Hamas
to Israel, to Cutter to Egypt to Turkey, all much
to the chagrin of Democrats giving Donald Trump specific praise
for his efforts along these lines. I mean, as much
as I have no value in the Nobel Peace Prize
ever since Barack Obama got one for doing literally nothing,
but this makes Donald Trump really quite eligible, if not

(13:47):
well deserved, of a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, and that's what makes them lose their minds over it.
I mean, you've kept people trying to overdose on talentled
just because Donald Trump pointed out that talent all themselves,
and Harvard did a study that said, hey, taking talent
all while you're pregnant could be bad for you. Talk
to your doctor. And so there are people that are
literally going to the ICU because well, to own Trump,

(14:11):
I have to do this. And so now you see,
on the biggest world stage possible, Donald Trump getting a win,
which is, you know, win after win after win in
all kinds of areas. They just can't stand it. And
even if it meant more war, they would be like, well,
but Trump can't succeed. I think one of the funniest

(14:31):
things I saw was, you know, kind of one of
those Babylon d type headlines is Federal judge rules that
Trump cannot does not have the authority to facilitate peace
in the Middle East, you know, but this is the thing.
Anything to stop Trump is basically the only thing that
the Left stands.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
For these days, no question about it. Well, and the
other component of this that remains a mystery to me
because as we see all these pro Palestinian pro Hamas
agitator agitators tearing up college campuses and overrunning city, I
didn't see any reference to the question of a Palestinian state.
Does this have any open sort of at least wiggle

(15:10):
room for that to be brought about. Is that something
that wasn't touch by this. I didn't hear any. I
didn't really quite read anything which definitively answers that question.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Congressman David's, Yeah, that was very intentionally not included in this,
because there's just no way that there's going to be
a discussion about that that involves Hamas. And so the
condition is Hamas can't govern in Gaza, and then there's
a lot of rebuilding that needs to take place before
that's even ripe. And there are a lot of people

(15:38):
that are pushing for it, including some of the European Union, Democrats, radicals,
campus folks, in particular that you're talking about, and you
know the ten to seven massacre when hamas you know,
went out and massacred innocent civilians in Israel. A lot
of what their demand was is a separate state. I mean,

(15:58):
you can't reward that massacre, the ten seven massacre with
talking about a separate Palconian state, but you can restore peace.
And so it looks like they're well underway towards that,
and hopefully it continues.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Amen to that, Congressman Warren Davidson, I certainly appreciate your
willingness to join my listeners of me and have a
discussion on these important issues, and I truly appreciate you
and your standing on these matters. As an elected official.
We need more people like Congressman Warren Davidson, and I
want to thank all of your voters for putting you
in office, and hopefully we'll have continued great relations with
you here in the fifty five Garrassey Morning. Should Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, always an honor. Thanks Brian, God bless you and
all your listeners. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right back at you. Coming up next, Senator Ran Paul