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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I can be heard on KRC the talk station seven

(00:21):
o six, the fifty about KRCD talk station. Very Happy Friday,
needs to you. Great day. Be listening to fifty about
Karrsey morning Ship. This moment in time, the return of
Congressman Warren Davidson. We do have some good members of Congress.
He is one of them. At least that's my subjective opinion.
I think it's an opinion shared widely by my listeners.
And thanks to the folks that he represents for voting
him into office time and time again. Welcome back, Congressman Davidson.

(00:43):
It's always great to have you on the fifty five
KRC Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Always an honor. Thanks Brian, good to talk.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
So the government's still shut down if I missed any
news breaking their Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, it is in fact still shut down. I mean so, uh,
you know a lot of people are coming up to
be going, well, this is great. I don't really notice anything.
People that live closer to write Patterson Air Force Base,
if not directly affected, have a friend or family member
that works at the base, and some of them are
people that are considered quote not essential. People are like, well,

(01:15):
why do we have non essential workers in the first place, well,
right Patison Air Force Base, largest employer in the state,
and the Air Force procurement hub is at right Patterson
Air Force Base. When you buy stuff for the Air Force,
you know, not necessarily if they buy it this afternoon,
but you've got to buy it eventually. So you know,
those are people that are quote furlough. They're they're not
at work today. The military people at write Patterson Air

(01:38):
Force Base are at work, but then if they're working
on any procurement stuff, their productivity is totally disrupted because
the people that they need to work with day in
and day out, who are civilians, aren't at work in
a lot of cases. So you know, those kinds of
things go on, they're going to be more and more felt,
and it's certainly going to be more noticeable when at
the end of the month a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Don't get well, No question, they're gonna start feeling the
sting of that. Now are there. My understanding is that
most government employees have resources available to them where they
can get no interest loans from banks because the banks
know full well that they are going to get paid
and fully reimbursed once the government opens back up, so
it's a no risk loan for them. Is that a
widely available thing? So people aren't literally not eating or

(02:21):
incapable of paying their rent that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, those resources are out there. Everyone's communicating that
to employees, including the companies that want their business. But
if they don't already have an account with you know,
USA Navy, Federal Credit Union, Congressional Credit Union, you know,
et cetera, all those kinds of things, and a lot
of normal privacy right credit Union will do the same

(02:48):
for a lot of people. You know, a lot a
lot of banks will do it even you know, depending
on your relationship with them and the fact that you
have direct depositive with the government paid check. They know
the money's going to eventually be there. So you know,
we're working right now, obviously occasionally trying to convince Democrats
that they should change their mind. I think a lot

(03:10):
of people are rooting for the congressional staffers on the
Senate Democrat staff to say, hey, boss, you know, maybe
we should consider the CR thing as the enddn't want approaches.
But in the meantime, you know, right now, if we
head past the CR and Democrats had just said, okay,
we would be right now doing hearings and meetings and

(03:30):
working on appropriations so that come November twenty first, we
don't need another cr We've actually got everything funded on time.
So you know, that's what brings me to DC this week,
working on legislation, trying to make sure that we have
our ducks in a row so that we know what
we want funded, what the priorities are, because we're going
to have to run a faster playbook if we ever

(03:51):
get open. But in some of the collaboration on a
non appropriations bills, working with a Democrat colleague to strategize
how we might get this across the finish line, and
they're like, well, you know, if it's not open by
mid November, you know, it's kind of going to push
us probably into twenty twenty six before we can even
get a vote on the floor. And you're like, wow, okay,

(04:14):
well thanks for talking about topic X, but interesting perspective
on the shutdown. So I think mentally there are a
lot of Democrats that are like, yeah, I mean, we're
not upset that Republicans haven't held hearings and aren't making
progress on their agenda. So it's really up to the
public to persuade Democrats to say, you know, you've got
to open it up, or it's up to the Senate
to say, Okay, this sixty vote rule probably has to

(04:36):
go away on appropriations because they've got a majority of
the Senate. They just don't have that sixty vote rule.
And that isn't actually even on the bill that it's
called cloture. It's like the rules they say, all right,
we're going to have a vote on X on the topic,
and they need sixty votes to get that done. Well,

(04:56):
you'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, do you see any in the dam on the
Democrats side. I guess I'm kind of wondering if anybody
takes the moment in time to look at this logically
and reasonably, they would understand that the CR is Biden
era funding level. You didn't do anything to interrupt that
level of funding. That was their level of funding. So
they don't have any to complain about keeping things as
status quo on that Now. I know the Big Beautiful

(05:19):
Bill did some things they're very unhappy with, but a
Republican shouldn't be unringing that bell. The Democrats are responsible
for the deadline of the subsidies. They incorporated that into
what was the Inflation Reduction Act. It was an extension
that took it to the end of this year. They
have no one to blame for themselves for ending the
subsidies in the original legislation, you know, something that was
a big red flag that's been waiving since the moment

(05:40):
Biden signed that into law. So it, you know, and
just get there of another so you can do the
work to get the twelve appropriations bills fully passed. I
don't get it. Is there any like poll out there
that you can rely on. Is there any perception that
you've reached that the American public is painfully aware this
is squarely in the day Democrats' hands.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, I think that's what the polling shows. But you know,
there are people that will still try to blame Republicans.
You have a control of the House, the Senate, and
the White House, and the controlled media will publish whatever
the Democrats told them.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
To, overlooking the sixty vote majority needed in the Senate.
I mean that that goes back to the rules, and
that was what my next question was going to be.
Congressman Davidson, Is that where we're headed to get rid
of that.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, you know, I think some of the Democrats want
that because they were trying to get it done in
the first place, yep. And they want Republicans to break
the day on that so they don't have to take
the blame for breaking it, you know. But for oh gosh,
I'm drawing her name from Arizona and mansion from West Virginia.

(06:48):
They had two Democrats that didn't go along with the plan.
They were going to pack the clerks, recognize Puerto Rico
and DC estates and all kinds of stuff right with
civil majorities. But you had two Democrats that didn't go
along with the plan to break the sixty vote rule.
So I think that that this is part of the
play for Democrats, and that is they want Republicans to
break the sixty vote rules so that if they ever

(07:09):
get you know, back into control of the Senate, they
can do everything with the central majority in the Senate.
So that's that's that's at play here. There are a
lot of people that feel like the sixty vote rule
is an important time on or tradition. It does develop
some form of consensus. But the idea that to your point,
this isn't like the Republican Appropriation Package that you know,

(07:33):
massively changes funding on our regular appropriations process. We haven't
got that done yet. We're still negotiating that. And the
cr is just status quote funding what they voted for
when Joe Biden was president and they controlled the Senate.
So this is the first time ever that anyone has

(07:54):
used the leverage of votes to shut down the government
over status quot fund People have had objections over a
priority or another and said well, I'm not going to
give my vote to that, and that resulted in a shutdown.
But this is the first time that it was well, okay,
we're going to call a truce and just do status

(08:14):
quo as we negotiate all these things, and then the
other party said, well, we'll just shut it down. So
the problem is Democrats are being rewarded for it with
their base and a lot of public quotes. I mean
the Whip, the Democrat Whip Clark from Massachusetts. She's out
there saying, yeah, we're fine with it if it causes

(08:37):
some suffering, this is going to create leverage for us.
It's very intentional play, and they basically want the headlines
of families that need whatever people that aren't getting food
stamps and everything, and then try to put pressure on Trump.
And honestly, I think that's why they want to get
to Thanksgiving because they'll say, these heartless people are are

(08:58):
letting people go into Thanksgiving what you are, and the
media will cover the lies. It's like, well, look, you
guys are the ones that shut it down. The votes
are called, they're recorded. People can check who voted to
keep the government open and who didn't.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's Democrats, a congressman, David's a real quick here before
we part company and come back and talk about the irs,
among other things. In terms of the sixty vote majority,
how many votes does it take to change that rule?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You know, that's a good question. It's a Senate rule,
and I think they can do it with a simple
majority of majority.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, how about this real quick.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Of the majority of the Senate, So all the all
the the majority of the Senate does it. So if
all the Republicans in the Senate worked together.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
They would be able to do it, all right, how
about this is a plague just to let you leave
it there. I'm just saying, do the change and rule vote,
get the government back open, and then the next day
vote to change the rule back to sixty and move on.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah. You know, one of the proposals, and this is
from a guy in the House, is is what if
we made it a law that there's a sixty vote rule,
and then you make the Democrats take the vote so
you can see who really wants to get rid of
the sixty vote rule and who doesn't, and then it
would require the House, the Senate, and the President to

(10:17):
change the sixty vote rule and all like, well, that's
an interesting strategy. I personally liked the old sixty vote rule.
Before it was a sixty vote rule, it was three
fifths of the members present on the floor of the Senate.
Change this in the seventies, and then if you wanted
to shut everything down, you had to actually be present
on the floor of the Senate. So, yeah, you could

(10:41):
do it, you could work together, but you would literally
have to hold the floor and the only thing that
could get done is what was being held up on
the floor. So then public pressure mounted, and of course
everybody's attention was focused because four to seven the only
thing going on in the Senate, and that's the mister
Smith goes to Washington. He eventually ran out of steam

(11:02):
because he didn't have anyone to hand the baton too.
But if you just have you know, two people doing it,
you could take you two hours at a time, three
hours at a time, and take blocks and rotate. So obviously,
if you've got forty forty seven Democrats working together, you
can schedule shifts and keep the floor held open. But

(11:23):
you would literally have to hold the floor to do it.
And that's the old filibuster rule. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well, people, I guess don't want to show up the Senate,
so the don't want to show up and do their job.
Congressmanre and Davidson, should we just tell the irs to
go away? We're going to ask him that question coming
up seven seventeen fifty five KRCD Talk Station.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Lead talk Station.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Seven twenty one fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas
here with Congressman Warren Davidson. Appreciate his willingness to come
on with fifty five krc Mornings and talk about important
issues like here's a quote from somebody, Congressman Davidson, do
you know who said this quote? I'm rooting for the
irs to be closed. I've got a constitutional Amendment to
repeal the sixteenth Amendment. I think it's a massive invasion
of price obviously to collect all this information from citizens

(12:02):
in the first place. And so I hope we will
be we will completely repeal the sixteenth Amendment and fully
close the IRS. That sounds like a great idea. Who
came up with that one?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Ah, that's Warren Davidson. That's a pretty good quote. I'm
glad you found it.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah. I was doing a CNN interview and they wanted
to try to say, oh, Trump's doing these bad things
to the IRS and people are getting laid off and
he's going to abuse the power of the IRS and
weaponized government and everything, and they brought me on to
try to try to get me to box into that corner.
I mean, well, the purpose of the interview was something else,
but that's always sit you with some ambush stuff. So

(12:38):
that was one of their little ambush things. And I'm like, well,
I didn't even want the IRS to exist. I'm trying
to close the whole thing. So that certainly changed the
conversation a bit. They weren't really prepared for that angle.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, the comical part of that is weaponize Donald Trump
weaponized the government against the IRS. Well, okay, you know,
go back to who's responsible for the shutdown. I think
we've clearly conclude the Democrats are so that gives Donald
Trump an opportunity to quote unquote weaponize the executive brands
to do a whole lot of things the otherwise wouldn't
have the power to do if the government was open. Fine,
they created that scenario, But the IRS itself was weaponized

(13:11):
against the are the American people? Lois Lerner. She was
treating the conservative organizations terribly and denying them five oh
one three C status, much like you know, Eric Holder's
Justice Department went after banks who were doing business with
lawful firearms manufacturers and pay day lenders, weaponizing these governments
against the own people. And even more comical Congress than Davidson.

(13:31):
I got to get this in. The tax code itself
is weaponized to protect the interest of politicians and special
interests in large money donors like major corporations. It's what
ten thousand plus pages long. It is filled with loopholes
and write ins and carve outs and exemptions and incentives,
and listen, I hate the code being used to incentivize
the American people for literally anything, and I hate it

(13:53):
being used as a carrot and stick mechanism to get
us to do what we might not want to do.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, one hundred percent all that is exactly like,
that's exactly it. I hate the income tax. I get it.
We got to pay some form of tax, right, you know. Okay,
I don't like property tax that much either, but at
least you vote on it locally and spend it locally.
The income tax is first and foremost this surveillance tool.

(14:20):
You know, did somebody pay you, did you pay somebody else,
did you buy or sell something? Did you make or
lose money? Did somebody give you a gift? Did you
give a gift? Was the gift too generous? What kind
of car do you drive? What kind of windows do
you have in your house? How many kids are in
your house? You know, et cetera, et cetera, all this
insane stuff. You're like, get out of my life and
get a warrant if you need to know that. And

(14:41):
then it's so complicated. The Democrats wanted to hire eighty
seven thousand more IRS agents. I mean, that's five infantry
divisions worth of IRS agents. They wanted to add to
the already too large IRS. So thankfully we installed the
plan to grow the IRS what we need to build
momentum towards just going ahead and deleting the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, we eradicated slavery in this country, and I can't
view the income taxes anything more than slavery because I
can do the math when I look at the percentage
of my income the federal government takes out of my
check in form of income tax, and they can set
it at whatever level they want. Historically it's been eighty
plus percent in the old days. Right remember the Taxman
song from the Beatles, When the Brits are being tacked
at ninety five percent of a certain amount of income.

(15:25):
You are literally working for the government. They are taking
you are salary. In other words, they're taking your labor literally.
I suppose you could argue without your consent, although I
do know it's a constitutional amendment, but come on, it's
for slavery.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. You know, people talk about McCarthyism, and you know,
I certainly wasn't alive back in the McCarthy era, but
they talk about you know, oh, it was all a
hoax and there wasn't really a big threat of communism,
and you're like, well, what was the tax rate at
that time? Well, okay, it was ninety percent. Ninety percent, Okay,
well I guess to go known everything, but ninety percent

(16:01):
quite a lot, right, So it's not a vindication of
everything the guy might have done. But you're like, yeah,
there were some concerns because the government's like, you know,
the Jesus famous saying, you know, render under Caesar what
is Caesar's and render under God? What is God's? Uh?
The problem with the communists they think everything is Caesar's.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Right, leaving nothing for God, which is part and part
of the communist strategy. They don't believe in God either.
Congressman Warren Davidson, what are the good ones? Keep going up,
keep up the great work. Congressman Davidson. You always have
a voice here in the fifty five Casite Morning Show
if you need to get some information out, and I
appreciate your willingness to do that. Thanks for your time today,
and that's the health you and your family, sir.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Thanks Brian, God bless you and all your listeners.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Seven six fifty five Casite Talk Station. Let's give some

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