Cory Bowman For Mayor - POST Debate Talk

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Friday. Early voting is going on right now. You
apparently have twenty eight days and you can see the
countdown at Corey Bowman dot COM's right there on the
front page of his website. Twenty five days, eleven hours,
fifty nine minutes and now eighteen seconds to vote. Corey Bowman,
Welcome back to the fifty five Carse Morning Show. On
the heels of your debate against aftab Provoll last night
at Xavier. How are you feeling this morning, Corey, Well.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm killing a lot better. I just stopped by my
shop and got my first quartato for the day, so
it's going to be a good day today, sir. How
you doing great to have be on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's great. So you know Wednesday night at the smitham
and fundraiser, I mean, I know you pretty well, Corey.
I mean I've talked to you a lot on the air,
I've talked to you off air. I've heard you comment
and in no way, shape or form what I ever
like declare you as some sort of maga conservative, which
apparently is exactly what aftab Provoll came out. We created
a drinking game yesterday in anticipation or debate anytime someone

(00:56):
mentions Trump or MAGA. That was a shot, and of
course you of being a MAGA Republican. I don't know
why the audience. Somebody said that, he said you're a
MAGA extremist, and the audience booting. So I don't know
why the audience is booing. And the fact that he
represents MAGA. I mean, you either support the Trump agenda
or you don't. You can't run for mayor and not
be concerned with the federal employees who are getting fired,

(01:17):
not be concerned with the racializing of our own public
safety challenges here in community. Dude, I have never heard
you racialize anything. I've never heard you even address federal
level funding and spending because you're not running for an
office that controls or has anything to do with it.
That did that really irk you? I guess this is
my fundamental question. Did you feel like, oh my god,

(01:38):
I have to actually spend time pointing this reality out?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, I don't know. It's because basically we knew that
these were going to be the talking points. You know,
the playbook's always the same. And for me, like you said,
we're running this race for Cincinnati, and so our biggest
battle that we've had throughout the entire year is just
showing people that we're not running this based on copy
and pasting national politics. I have opinions on national politics,

(02:06):
like everybody does, but that really shouldn't be brought to
city hall when it comes to just fixing your roads
and making sure the money is spent properly and make
sure that your crime is in order. These are practical
issues that require just common sense solutions, and I think
that's what people are tired of, you know. And people
were booing when that was brought up, because that's what

(02:27):
people are fed up with. They're fed up with people
from city hall trying to act like they're on a
national stage when really we need to be focusing on
the people that are on the streets of Cincinnati. And
that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, and they kept coming back with it. I noticed
you at the end of the debate. They just ask
you out, point Plank, if there's anything you disagree with
Trump on Again me, Trump's dealing with global affairs warfare,
he's dealing with interstate commerce issues, fighting like national drug crises.
I mean, I know what they're trying to do, Corey.

(02:59):
I'm not an idiot, but you know, it's I think personally,
it's insulting to the audience in the crowd, who are
presumably residents of the City of Cincinnati or care about
city Cincinnati issues for him to be pushing things on
a national level. Christopher Smithman has harped on this for
years and years. Why are they passing ordinances in the
city of Cincinnati saying something like we disagree with Israel.

(03:21):
You got no connection with Israel. Get back to the
business of the City of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Damn it, No, you're absolutely true. You know, there's obviously
things from the national level that impact local citizens. And
so if there is clear anti Semitism, that there's clear
discrimination against a certain group for a race, that's stuff
that we have to stand up against no matter what.
But you know what's funny is that I was at

(03:45):
the BOE and I was casting my vote. I'm a
little biased. I won't tell you who I voted for.
But as I'm there, I speak with a gentleman and
he's wearing a Palestine sweatshirt on, and initially he's yelling
at my guys because he disagrees with a lot of
stuff from a national standpoint of what the conservative movement
stands for. I spoke with him for five minutes, and

(04:08):
I kid you not, after five minutes, he realized what
we were running this race on and he told me
point blank, I'm going to switch my vote from MATHPAB
to you because of what you've just told me right now.
So I just think that that is symbolic of what
this campaign has to represent, is just getting people to realize,
we have to run this for Cincinnati. We have to
take care of our own streets. You know, one thing

(04:30):
last night they kept saying, and I don't know, I
don't know whether he just has people in his ear
that flat out lie, but he kept saying that I've
called for the National Guard to come to Cincinnati. And
what I've what I've told people over and over and
over is that number one, we don't have violent riot
currently in the streets. That's not the case, that we

(04:51):
don't need it. Number Two, a city that's run properly
can actually take care of its own crime. But that's
not what's happening right now. We got to change this
from internal structure.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
With them, we'll pause, I bring Corey Boman back, we'll
talk about the crime specific conversation and exchange, but also
I want to talk to him about the exchange, about
controlling one's own destiny in one's own neighborhood within this
city of Cincinnetians so far as property goes. I thought
that was rather revealing what aftab Provoll revealed yesterday. A
thirty six right now more with Corey Bowman after these

(05:23):
brief words.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Fifty five KRC is your five.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Million talk station. Brian Towmins with Corey Bowman, mayoral candidate.
Find him on a line Corey Bowman dot com. We
have a choice and it is open voting right now.
I want to pivot over to housing and development and
a Toab Provall was on and on yesterday Corey Bowman
about the need to create and build affordable housing. I
think he claims he wants to build. He personally is
going to get a hammer out and build forty thousand
affordable housing units. Before we get to the question of

(05:48):
what exactly is affordability and is it the same in
any given neighborhood. He sure as hell pointed out that
you do not really have the right to self determination.
We need confordable housing. He's firm in that. In order
to solve that crisis, we have to build them, and
he said the prior zoning laws were what was binding
or hindering progress. Now, I know you'll have a word

(06:08):
or two on that. In your neighborhood specifically, you know
what was hindering progress. But he said sometimes that the
council and the mayor's always need to disagree with residents
in one part of town in order to address the
needs of residence in the entire city, saying we're going
to do the hard, sometimes unpopular work of building housing

(06:29):
across the city because pole after Poole will show you
we need this kind of affordable housing. I mean, he's
isn't he basically saying that if you move in the
city of Cincinnati, you're under threat or risk of having
your neighborhood completely transformed in spite of what you want,
on popular as may be, by them foisting a bunch
of affordable housing in your neighborhood. That is not exactly
a welcome sign for moving to the city of Cincinnati.

(06:51):
Corey Bowman, your response, now, I think that.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
The argument on the other side is that you know
what we're seeing from the federal government dictatorship than you know,
taking authority where you shouldn't. But that's exactly what we
saw last night from from atpad Purval and he said,
he said, the real part out loud is that basically,
no matter what you feel about your neighborhoods, no matter
what you feel about development, we are going to issue

(07:16):
our own development, our own standards on zoning, and you're
not going to have anything to say about it. And
I don't think that's right Cincinnati especially. You know, it's
one thing to regulate certain things downtown because you have
to have businesses and you have to have residential all
working together. But we are a city of fifty two neighborhoods.
Every neighborhood has its own uniqueness, its own character. And

(07:39):
if you're sitting there saying that we're going to copy
and paste our own design, development and zoning regulations on
you and you basically can't say anything about it, well,
in my mind, that is not properly representing the people
of your city. And I don't think that's right. You know,
we see that in the West End. They've put somewhereabouts
you can you know, basically prove about sixty seven ton

(08:00):
tenty percent, but really it's about you know, closer to
eighty percent of affordable housing, and they keep calling it
affordable housing. Yeah, government subsidized housing, you know, like I
totally said, but I knew the fact that it was
thirty sixty percent. Ami. I have a friend that's developing
a property across the street from my cop shoping do
an eighty percent. Ami, it's just government subsidized housing. To

(08:22):
try to put it down, the problem is is that
what they're funding is organizations in goos and people that
don't have the tenant's best interest at heart. They're funneling
money and then on top of that, they're building concrete
blocks that basically feel like a prison, and they really
are because they're keeping people in poverty the rest of

(08:43):
their lives. There's no pathway out. And I couldn't disagree
more with the policy of what's been happening currently.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, you may have answered my question because earlier in
the program, I was saying, what is affordable housing? Just
like you are, No one ever puts a dollar sign
on it necessarily, but even if they did, if you
build a complex in Hyde Park, six hundred square foot apartments,
that's going to command a certain rent because it's in
a certain neighborhood. Now, if you built the same complex
in your neighborhood in the West End, would a six

(09:10):
hundred square foot apartment command the same rent as an
apartment in Hyde Park? Location Location Location, I would suggest perhaps,
at least as of right now, Hyde Park's going to
command a much higher rent because of market forces and desirability.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
No. Absolutely, And honestly, that's why the entirety of the
West Side is so up in arms right now is
because you can buy a house with the same property,
same architectural design on the west side, same beauty, same character,
and then you buy the same house on the east side,
and the east side is going to go for one
hundred and two hundred thousand more. And so what happens

(09:44):
is that these policies, when it comes to the affordable housing,
ultimately you're kind of trying to mimic or you're not mimic,
but you're trying to dictate the market. And when you
do that property value just goes down overall. Right, you're
concentrating the poverty. Therefore you're concentrating the And then one
thing I'd say to the opposition is that you're showing

(10:04):
up for photo ops to pay Black lives matter on
city Hall, but really do black lives matter when it
comes to this affordable housing. From what I've seen, you
concentrate poverty and crime, which inadversely it affects the black communities.
And that's something that we have to fight. We have
to give everybody the opportunity to have a step up

(10:25):
in prosperity. And that's not what's happening.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
That is not what's happening. All right, We're going to
pivot over to crime. We'll take a quick break right now,
bring Corey Bowman back to talk about the back and
forth yesterday during the debate at David University on crime.
One more with Mayor oal candidate Corey Bowman again online
at Coreybowman dot com. Let's be right back fifty five
KRC Sports Station. I share that sentiment on a Friday,

(11:00):
Umen's on the line. He was involved in the debate
with Mayor. I have to have Purval. I think he
did an excellent job last night, Corey Bowman, and you
got one more debate with the mayor. I guess real
quick here on the property thing, I think Mayor I
have to have Parvole said something along the lines the
city Camp become a city just solely for wealthy people.
But isn't that exactly what they did when they gentrified

(11:21):
over the Rhine, kicking a lot of longtime residents out
because they can no longer afford it, moving in a
bunch of urban hipsters because they came with jobs and
salaries that are taxed, Corey, wasn't that the point of gentrification?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
No? And then also in the current area of OTR,
everybody wants to talk about South of Liberty, That's where
the mayor has all the videos. Nobody wants to talk
about North of Liberty. You know, last night I invited
the guest, Ronda Winn, to be on the front road. Now,
I'll be honest with you, I've had talked with her
and she wasn't fully convinced about the race yet. She's

(11:57):
just trying to get justice for her daughter's murder that
happened north of Liberty in OTR. And still to this day,
the mayor has not reached out to her. Last night,
he had a perfect example to meet her and didn't
meet her on the front row. And then so afterwards,
Ms Ronda comes up to me. He says, I'm with you.
We're going to get this thing. And so those are
things that we're seeing. Is that when you talk about

(12:19):
the gentrification or when you talk about these housing policies,
it ultimately leads to concentrated crime, and that is leaving
victims at the hands of all these criminals. And that's
what we've got to stop. It's basically a trickle down
in confidence from the top down.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, and based on his comments last night, you think
Mary have to have provoll was the best friend of
the police departments. Oh, we've worked together, we're busy doing
this and that we're going to hire more police officers.
But you pointed out an excellent point, and he has
been very reactive as opposed to proactive when it comes
to policing. What happens. We have Sarah Herringer's husband stabbed
to death in their apartment and over the rhine that

(12:55):
through tremendous outrage. That's when we found out that no,
they're not monitoring ankle bracelets out on the world and
behold then of course she had the late July beat down. Holly.
We all saw the video and I've talked to her
and had her on the program. You've met her and
talked to her.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
He was the night she was good. The mayor failed
to talk with her last night. We had ample opportunity
before and after to speak with multiple individuals in the room,
and he did not speak with any of those victims.
Die and Buy It on the front row last night.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
And we made it to the national stage for that incident,
which prompted him to do what implement curfew enforcement at
least pay lip service to it in certain neighborhoods, improve
policing in certain neighborhoods, and a cry to hire more
police officers. All of this was in reaction to the
post national headlines. What had he done prior to that, though,

(13:41):
is really what I'm wondering, especially since he hired on
Iris Rowley as a very well paid consultant who is
nothing but an apparently an agitator who actually interferes with
police doing their work.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
One thing they kept saying last night on the other
side is that Corey doesn't know what he's doing. That
came right back and said, you didn't get the endorsement
of FOP. I got the FOP. I think they know
what they're doing, and then you didn't actually get this
just came out that he didn't get the endorsement from
the fire department either, and I believe that they know
what they're doing as well. So I think the ultimate

(14:15):
thing is that maybe after four years of being in office,
he doesn't know what he's doing. And that's what we've
got to bring to the table, because not only just
these professionals of public safety, but we cannot forget the victims.
The people that have been most affected are the people
like the Sarah Herringers, the Rohnda Wins, the mother of
Krishanda Win. You got to talk about Holly who got

(14:38):
beat She was one of the many people that night
that was trying to stop the violence. She wasn't trying
to instigate it, and she gets beat down, and that's
unacceptable in a major city in America. And so we
can talk about the staff the policy all we want,
but ultimately, if we fail to recognize the victims and
the people that have seen the consequences of these all seas,

(15:00):
then we're forgetting what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
And one final topic that was addressed toward the end,
I guess you're a hell no on increasing the income tax,
although after have provol welcomes an increase in income tax
apparently because he said, need to bring in money if
you want to accomplish what we want to do. Another
red flag. If you want to improve the desirability of
living in the city of Cincinnati, raising taxes is not
the right way to go from my perspective, Corey, your take.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Now, I had another guest last night. Her name was Taniqua,
and she is actually a business owner, Black business owner
woman in the city and very successful. But what she
told me was that when she was down on her luck,
she went through slum lord after slum lord, and she
was getting abused, she was getting taken advantage of. And
this is her and her children that were in terrible

(15:47):
living situations, and all these slum lords were funded by
the city. Well, then she buys her own property and
she's now a homeowner, and she's a renter now renter,
but she's a landlord. And she's told me that ever
since she's done this, she has felt demonized or basically
felt like that she's guilty for being successful because she

(16:08):
has to pay into more fees, more taxes, more everything.
So that's the system that we're under right now, is
that we incentivize rendership, we incentivize being reliant on the government.
But if you want to have a successful business, if
you want to be a property owner, if you want
to own a single family home in the city, then
you are basically treated as the bad guy. And what

(16:29):
do you think those policies are going to do. The
taxes have to come from somewhere. The taxes have to
come from business, they have to come from property, they
have to come from income. And the thing is is
that if the taxes aren't coming from that or even
the earning tax, people are going to stop spending their
money in Cincinnati. And then all of a sudden, you're
going to be left with a lot of people that

(16:49):
will rely on the government in renting, but they're not
going to be able to step out of that, and
you're going to leave the city worse and worse and
worse and more of a despicit. They're going to have
less money on the books, and it's just not going
to do well for the future days of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Corey Bowman sounds to me like you have a good
recipe for success as mayor of the City of Cincinnati.
It doesn't bother me a whit that you haven't held
political office before. Everybody starts somewhere. You're surrounded by good people.
I know you've got great ideas for who the city
manager might be. Hopefully you get a Steve Gooden and
I had, Christopher Smithman and it Liz Keating along with you.
There are are options, there are our choices. You can
start voting, and you maybe should have already twenty five

(17:27):
days and eleven hours left. Corey Bowman, You're always welcome
here on the morning show, continued to wish for success
for you and your campaign, and another encouragement my listeners
head on over to Corey Bowman dot com to maybe
help you out. Take care of my friend. Have a
wonderful weekend. I know we'll talk again real soon.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Brian, thank you so much, having an amazing weekend.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Thanks brother. Eight fifty five fifty five KR City Talk
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