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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A thirty six iif you I have caresee the talk station. Yes,
you can have technical difficulties on the fifty about carssee
morning show. Unfortunately, unlike War, no one dies as a
consequence of technical difficults on the morning show. We have
them on the telephone. Daniel Davis, retired lieutenant colonel with
Daniel Davis Deep Dive every Tuesday at this time, well
actually a little earlier on a normal Tuesday, Daniel Davis,
(00:23):
can you hear me, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I can't hear you. Gradmar to work this out and
no one died. So that's a positive thing.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Amen, my friend. That's one of the joys of being
a morning show host. You don't have to worry about people dying.
Now you might get attacked for your opinions, but that's okay.
I can take that all right. Dealer's choice, actually retired
lieutenant colonel's choice. Do you want to start with the
breakdown in the various Ukraine Russian? I don't know what.
(00:50):
Do you want to call them? Multipoint proposals? We've got
a nineteen point, we got a twenty eight point or something.
So far we have no agreement, or alternatively, do you
want to start with the varied response is to the
Hamas and his Bala situation with Israel, Sir, you pick
your favorite, definite.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, let's let's go with the Russia situation, since that's
the weirdest one, I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
All right, Yeah, lately, the Kremlin reject Europe's counterproposal. We
had this twenty eight point document the Trump administration unveiled
last week, which many were saying that, you know, was
was a gift to Russia, and then the counterproposal from
the Europe I think it was like a nineteen point plan,
which Kremlin just rejected that, so it would start where
(01:32):
we usually end serve, but it doesn't sound like we've
gotten anywhere. What's your take on all this, Daniel Davis?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, you know, it's just more of the bizarre. Uh,
just confused and just dysfunctional. I mean, there's no there's
no better way to put it, more accurate way to
put it. This whole situation, because when the first information
was leaked out, if there was a twenty eight point proposal,
it was apparently between Steve whit Off and a guy
(02:00):
named Carell Dimitriov on the Russian side, and the Russian
side said, well, after it was leaked. Well, you know,
it doesn't address a lot of our issues, but it
does address some issues, so it's a good start point.
That's something that we can work with here, et cetera.
But the minute that this thing hit the airwaves and
the people in the West started realizing and the Kiev
started realizing that there was something a discussion going on
(02:22):
between the US and Russia, people just went crazy. And
first of all, over the weekend there was a lot
of information out among a lot of the elites in
the West that this was actually a Russian proposal that
they just foist it onto the Trump administration, and this
was you know, obviously then you have to reject it
because it's just their plan. Well, if you had paid
(02:43):
any attention at all to the plan, there was a
number of points and I did six on my show
that the Russians would categorically rejoice. They were reject They
would never accept that. So the idea that it was
a Russian plan was absurd at face value if you
paid attention to face value. What I think was going
on is that Europe is absolutely terrified of this war ending.
(03:04):
I know that sounds strange, but they just cannot acknowledge
that they have lost the war, that NATO has lost
the war, that the European Union and all their economic
accepts have lost this war. But that is the case,
and so they want to continue the fiction longer, and
they're okay with you talk about people dying, as this
is real life. People will continue to die on the
(03:26):
Ukraine's side because of the unwillingness and the inability on
the Western side to acknowledge this war must come to
an end. And you know, I have some issues with
President Trump on several issues here, but this is one
I'm in lockstep with him. I am one hundred percent
behind his effort to get this over with by the
least objectionable path possible. And it's important to understand there
(03:47):
is no good path, there's only the least offensive. Well,
let me.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Just I guess I'm kind of curious about European Union's
position given what you said, Low. We had to pull
out of Vietnam exactly a shining moment for the United States.
Of course, you know, the Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't exactly a
shining moment for the United States. You know, it didn't
look good and we had to take our alums, we
can't declare a win in the win column, but the
futility of continuing in the face of you know, public
(04:14):
opposition or whatever the case may be, we move on
with our lives. Is this analogous to that at all?
Are they just unwilling to admit defeat or is this
much greater in terms of their economic connection with Ukraine
that really matters to them even though they can't really
do much about it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Apparently, Well, it's a combination of both those in the
worst way on each side. There was actually, interestingly also
over last weekend in the Ukraine media there was a
lot of anngst that many of the leaders were oblivious
actually in Ukraine against Europe, saying, you know, you guys
(04:49):
keep talking this big game about wanting to defeat Russia, etc.
But you have given this is a fact, more money
to Russia since this war has started to the Ukraine.
I continue to purchase their oil and in some cases,
like with France, even greater levels in this year than
the previous two. So the Ukraine side of saying, y'all
are just playing both sides against the middle. You want
(05:11):
cash if you want the war to keep going on
at our expense, and that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I think you know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I laughed.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I literally, I don't know if you heard me laughing.
That's like the definition of batcrap insane, if I may
use that term, sir. The European Union has embraced as
zero carbon emissions crap or so long they have destroyed
their own economies, and here they are buying Russian oil
to keep the power on because windmills don't cut it well,
arguing that Russian needs to be defeated in the war.
(05:37):
I can't make any sense out of this other than
say it sounds like something out of some deranged you know,
science fiction, maybe salvad or Dolly like parallel universe.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that's probably the least defensive you can say
about the European side, because it is totally divorced from
military reality. This war is over at the conclusion is
already known. It can't end any other way than rush
through victory and European and the Ukraine side and they're
just there's Ukraine leadership is in bed with this. On
(06:06):
top of of course, that's the other thing that the
Ukrainian people were upset about is all the corruption that's
now being exposed at the highest levels. So literally it's
about money. At the Ukraine leadership level and at the
European leadership level, it's all about cash. And they always
talk about how much more money they're going to spend
on defense, while zero willingness at all to engage in diplomacy.
(06:27):
That is the state of Western leadership in the twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It's a terrible thing to behold, it really is. And meanwhile,
young people and older people are being slaughtered on the battlefield,
and just while all this incompetence swirls around, it just
breaks my heart. Daniel Davis deeep diyes Where you get
the podcast, find it and regularly listen to it.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I do.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And then the other pivot over to the Trump administration
seems to be displeased with Israel's response to an ensminer
incursion in Gaza, and yet seems to be okay with
Israel's response that has Balla over in Lebanon. What's the difference,
Daniel Davis, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You know this. I was telling a colleague just last
week that we claimed that piece has come to the
Middle East, But when you look at the amount of
attacks in the Gaza strip and especially the West Bank
since this you know, seasfire so called, was brought into effects.
You would never know there was sea spark because this
continued to be a lot of attacks and then sometimes
(07:27):
the Hamicide fires back, and then of course they get
this huge response back from the Israeli side. In my estimation,
if I was just looking at the ground, I would
never have even known there was an alleged ceasefire. But
the fighting continues going on. And then now then you
add this issue back in Hezbela and in Beirut, et cetera,
and that was also supposed to have been in a
semi ceasfire situation, but then Israel just launched into this
(07:52):
assassination you know, decapitation struck, and they continued hit in
the southern part. So it just looks to me like
Israel still at war and I don't know where they're
don't and I don't know what the ejective verse because
I don't see a militarily attainable objective. I just see
lots of shots and firing, and it just keeps the
situation roiled up.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Maybe just engage in population control, sir, Sorry I had
to say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I hope that's not the case. But it's an ugly
situation with no apparent resolution that I can see anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Someday, sir, someday you and I will have a positive conversation.
I know it typiclarly in dark conversations of late on that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I thought this week, Rob before Thanksgiving, I thought we'd
be able to.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Have Hello Daniel Davis deep dive every Tuesday here in
the fifty five Casey Morning Show at eight thirty normally
unless we have a technical difficulty where no one dies,
which is good, but you can find him wherever you
get your podcasts regularly. I encourage you to do that,
Daniel Davis, from behalf of my listening audience and my
family to yours. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving,
that you do have something to be thankful for, and
I'll look forward to another conversation with you next week.
(08:54):
We do look forward to it. See you then, take
care of my friend eight forty five ify five care
see the talk station, don't go. I'd be right back.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Fifty five KRC dot com. Are you drowned
A thirty six iif you I have caresee the talk station. Yes,
you can have technical difficulties on the fifty about carssee
morning show. Unfortunately, unlike War, no one dies as a
consequence of technical difficults on the morning show. We have
them on the telephone. Daniel Davis, retired lieutenant colonel with
Daniel Davis Deep Dive every Tuesday at this time, well
actually a little earlier on a normal Tuesday, Daniel Davis,
(00:23):
can you hear me, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I can't hear you. Gradmar to work this out and
no one died. So that's a positive thing.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Amen, my friend. That's one of the joys of being
a morning show host. You don't have to worry about people dying.
Now you might get attacked for your opinions, but that's okay.
I can take that all right. Dealer's choice, actually retired
lieutenant colonel's choice. Do you want to start with the
breakdown in the various Ukraine Russian? I don't know what.
(00:50):
Do you want to call them? Multipoint proposals? We've got
a nineteen point, we got a twenty eight point or something.
So far we have no agreement, or alternatively, do you
want to start with the varied response is to the
Hamas and his Bala situation with Israel, Sir, you pick
your favorite, definite.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, let's let's go with the Russia situation, since that's
the weirdest one, I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
All right, Yeah, lately, the Kremlin reject Europe's counterproposal. We
had this twenty eight point document the Trump administration unveiled
last week, which many were saying that, you know, was
was a gift to Russia, and then the counterproposal from
the Europe I think it was like a nineteen point plan,
which Kremlin just rejected that, so it would start where
(01:32):
we usually end serve, but it doesn't sound like we've
gotten anywhere. What's your take on all this, Daniel Davis?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, you know, it's just more of the bizarre. Uh,
just confused and just dysfunctional. I mean, there's no there's
no better way to put it, more accurate way to
put it. This whole situation, because when the first information
was leaked out, if there was a twenty eight point proposal,
it was apparently between Steve whit Off and a guy
(02:00):
named Carell Dimitriov on the Russian side, and the Russian
side said, well, after it was leaked. Well, you know,
it doesn't address a lot of our issues, but it
does address some issues, so it's a good start point.
That's something that we can work with here, et cetera.
But the minute that this thing hit the airwaves and
the people in the West started realizing and the Kiev
started realizing that there was something a discussion going on
(02:22):
between the US and Russia, people just went crazy. And
first of all, over the weekend there was a lot
of information out among a lot of the elites in
the West that this was actually a Russian proposal that
they just foist it onto the Trump administration, and this
was you know, obviously then you have to reject it
because it's just their plan. Well, if you had paid
(02:43):
any attention at all to the plan, there was a
number of points and I did six on my show
that the Russians would categorically rejoice. They were reject They
would never accept that. So the idea that it was
a Russian plan was absurd at face value if you
paid attention to face value. What I think was going
on is that Europe is absolutely terrified of this war ending.
(03:04):
I know that sounds strange, but they just cannot acknowledge
that they have lost the war, that NATO has lost
the war, that the European Union and all their economic
accepts have lost this war. But that is the case,
and so they want to continue the fiction longer, and
they're okay with you talk about people dying, as this
is real life. People will continue to die on the
(03:26):
Ukraine's side because of the unwillingness and the inability on
the Western side to acknowledge this war must come to
an end. And you know, I have some issues with
President Trump on several issues here, but this is one
I'm in lockstep with him. I am one hundred percent
behind his effort to get this over with by the
least objectionable path possible. And it's important to understand there
(03:47):
is no good path, there's only the least offensive. Well,
let me.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Just I guess I'm kind of curious about European Union's
position given what you said, Low. We had to pull
out of Vietnam exactly a shining moment for the United States.
Of course, you know, the Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't exactly a
shining moment for the United States. You know, it didn't
look good and we had to take our alums, we
can't declare a win in the win column, but the
futility of continuing in the face of you know, public
(04:14):
opposition or whatever the case may be, we move on
with our lives. Is this analogous to that at all?
Are they just unwilling to admit defeat or is this
much greater in terms of their economic connection with Ukraine
that really matters to them even though they can't really
do much about it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Apparently, Well, it's a combination of both those in the
worst way on each side. There was actually, interestingly also
over last weekend in the Ukraine media there was a
lot of anngst that many of the leaders were oblivious
actually in Ukraine against Europe, saying, you know, you guys
(04:49):
keep talking this big game about wanting to defeat Russia, etc.
But you have given this is a fact, more money
to Russia since this war has started to the Ukraine.
I continue to purchase their oil and in some cases,
like with France, even greater levels in this year than
the previous two. So the Ukraine side of saying, y'all
are just playing both sides against the middle. You want
(05:11):
cash if you want the war to keep going on
at our expense, and that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I think you know.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I laughed.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I literally, I don't know if you heard me laughing.
That's like the definition of batcrap insane, if I may
use that term, sir. The European Union has embraced as
zero carbon emissions crap or so long they have destroyed
their own economies, and here they are buying Russian oil
to keep the power on because windmills don't cut it well,
arguing that Russian needs to be defeated in the war.
(05:37):
I can't make any sense out of this other than
say it sounds like something out of some deranged you know,
science fiction, maybe salvad or Dolly like parallel universe.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that's probably the least defensive you can say
about the European side, because it is totally divorced from
military reality. This war is over at the conclusion is
already known. It can't end any other way than rush
through victory and European and the Ukraine side and they're
just there's Ukraine leadership is in bed with this. On
(06:06):
top of of course, that's the other thing that the
Ukrainian people were upset about is all the corruption that's
now being exposed at the highest levels. So literally it's
about money. At the Ukraine leadership level and at the
European leadership level, it's all about cash. And they always
talk about how much more money they're going to spend
on defense, while zero willingness at all to engage in diplomacy.
(06:27):
That is the state of Western leadership in the twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It's a terrible thing to behold, it really is. And meanwhile,
young people and older people are being slaughtered on the battlefield,
and just while all this incompetence swirls around, it just
breaks my heart. Daniel Davis deeep diyes Where you get
the podcast, find it and regularly listen to it.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I do.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And then the other pivot over to the Trump administration
seems to be displeased with Israel's response to an ensminer
incursion in Gaza, and yet seems to be okay with
Israel's response that has Balla over in Lebanon. What's the difference,
Daniel Davis, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You know this. I was telling a colleague just last
week that we claimed that piece has come to the
Middle East, But when you look at the amount of
attacks in the Gaza strip and especially the West Bank
since this you know, seasfire so called, was brought into effects.
You would never know there was sea spark because this
continued to be a lot of attacks and then sometimes
(07:27):
the Hamicide fires back, and then of course they get
this huge response back from the Israeli side. In my estimation,
if I was just looking at the ground, I would
never have even known there was an alleged ceasefire. But
the fighting continues going on. And then now then you
add this issue back in Hezbela and in Beirut, et cetera,
and that was also supposed to have been in a
semi ceasfire situation, but then Israel just launched into this
(07:52):
assassination you know, decapitation struck, and they continued hit in
the southern part. So it just looks to me like
Israel still at war and I don't know where they're
don't and I don't know what the ejective verse because
I don't see a militarily attainable objective. I just see
lots of shots and firing, and it just keeps the
situation roiled up.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Maybe just engage in population control, sir, Sorry I had
to say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I hope that's not the case. But it's an ugly
situation with no apparent resolution that I can see anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Someday, sir, someday you and I will have a positive conversation.
I know it typiclarly in dark conversations of late on that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I thought this week, Rob before Thanksgiving, I thought we'd
be able to.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Have Hello Daniel Davis deep dive every Tuesday here in
the fifty five Casey Morning Show at eight thirty normally
unless we have a technical difficulty where no one dies,
which is good, but you can find him wherever you
get your podcasts regularly. I encourage you to do that,
Daniel Davis, from behalf of my listening audience and my
family to yours. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving,
that you do have something to be thankful for, and
I'll look forward to another conversation with you next week.
(08:54):
We do look forward to it. See you then, take
care of my friend eight forty five ify five care
see the talk station, don't go. I'd be right back.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Fifty five KRC dot com. Are you drowned
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